Re: [opensuse] Kernel panic exit

2008-01-06 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 05 January 2008 18:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 If you have the expertise, do so. If not, simply report the Oops or panic
 to suse people and they can help the reporter get the data needed, and
 then perhaps they can solve it or report upstream.
ok. so, they have first line folks involved to isolate the module and 
then 
the kernel developers get involved? That makes reporting bugs easier... I 
suspect it takes a little longer on the suse side then. When I was doing that 
work for IBM the second level developers (primary OS developers) would not 
even get involved until the first level had isolated the correct module... 
and heaven help them if they isolated the wrong one.  :-))
 As to suse being third party... not completely. They have a good number of
 kernel developer/contributors on their staff.
ok. thanks, did not know that.


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Re: [opensuse] mounting USB memory stick

2008-01-04 Thread M Harris
On Friday 04 January 2008 06:04, jpff wrote:
 most seems to be
 working, except that the mounting of memory sticks no longer works.  I
 used to use ivman as a user (non-root) but not when I run it it does
 not mount.
   What errors do you see in the syslog, or on screen?
   What messages do you get when you attempt a manual mount?

   Do you see your usb controller(s) in an  lspci -v  printout?



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Re: [opensuse] Kernel panic exit

2008-01-03 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 16:46, Chris wrote:
 Hello,the last few days I have sometimes a kernel
 panic and I cannot do anything in order to reboot
 unless unplug the laptop.Is there any way to reboot or
 exit from that situation?Is there any way to keep
 these messages from the screen for debugging?
   Which kernel are you currently using? openSUSE version?

   A kernel panic is a very rare occurrence if you are using a stock kernel, 
and standard hardware/drivers. Usually a kernel panic is caused by a hardware 
failure (which is not compatible with a particular driver) or a bad, 
corrupted, or faulty driver-- it usually is not the kernel, but sometimes it 
is.
   What I would do is to remove (or disable) all of your peripheral hardware 
like-- usb devices (including, keyboards, mice, modems, flash memory, etc), 
external communication pluggings, etc.  (you might even want to disable stuff 
in your bios like serial port, par port, infrared, etc)
   Then, see if the kernel panic goes away... my bet is that it will.
   Then, reconfigure (and test for a while) each peripheral one by one... 
until you find the one that is causing the problem.

   Then-- submit a bug report 

   My sister had a similar problem... she was using a usb modem that went 
bad... kernel panic was the result of certain modem operations. The solution 
was to replace the modem.  (Who knows what the driver choked on, but the 
culprit was actually a poorly written driver)

   Hope this helps.



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Re: [opensuse] how-to make your linux desktop look like a mac

2007-12-28 Thread M Harris
On Friday 28 December 2007 16:13, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Friday 28 December 2007 15:10, Alfredo Cedeño Borges wrote:
  Can somebody please help me to do this?
  TIA (Thanks In Advance)

 http://store.apple.com/

   Just install Vista on that there thang...

   ... M$ took five years and spent 5+ billion dollars making that there thang 
look like OSX. So, go fer it.

   Or, ah, never mind.



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Re: [opensuse] Gnome messed up

2007-12-28 Thread M Harris
On Friday 28 December 2007 22:14, Allen wrote:
 So does anyone have any idea what happened? Is my system now doomed to
 having to just deal with this? WindowMaker and KDE and everything else work
 just fine but if I want to use Gnome 

   Let's see... KDE works fine, but you want to use Gnome, which is badly 
broken... uh, huh. 

   Well, THAT MAKES SENSE.

   sigh

   Sorry. That just wasn't nice...  I'm sorry things aren't working well for 
you right now, and I hope they improve. I feel your pain. 

   But, I USE KDE... as do most other folks who actually want their desktops 
to be functional, professional, uh, state-of-the-art, and well, not broken 
all the time. YMMV.  (probably)

   ...  this is like, you know, 85% ethanol honked up my engine but I really 
want to use it anyway even though good 'ol 87 octane lead free works great... 
cause I like engine repairs???   sigh

   [ducking for cover behind stone wall wearing KDE flame suit]




   
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Re: [opensuse] Gnome messed up

2007-12-28 Thread M Harris
On Friday 28 December 2007 23:09, Bryen wrote:
 But, please... don't state that GNOME is broken all the time.  That's
 just ludicrous and a patently false statement.  GNOME works well and for
 me and for MANY others, it has not been a broken experience.  And oh
 yeah, we're professionals too, by the way.
   heh heh... sorry... just trying to be funny after a long week of helping 
people fix Gnome.:-PBut seriously, I have a whole file of Gnome 
pathology I can share with you... although for all the trouble, none of it 
ever helps the next guy deal with the Gnome mess they're personally up to 
their ankles in...  other than that it seems to work great for somebody... 
somewhere.  On the other hand, I never have had to start a pathology file for 
KDE for some reason... go figure.

 Making statements like that here is just a waste of bandwidth.
   I agree, that's why I wait till midnight to make those kind of statements 
when the bandwidth is wide open and the boredom is high...   :)

   (sense of humor, get one)







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Re: [opensuse] Any fcron users

2007-12-27 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 27 December 2007 21:41, Rajko M. wrote:
   Then you can create an script in /etc/cron.daily/
 
  Will it run every day, even if the system is suspended to disk at the
  nominal scheduled time?

 Once before it was running 15 min after boot if it missed schedule.
 I don't know about wake from suspend.
Yes, the purpose of cron.daily [on suse] is that the computer does not 
need 
to be on at the specified time... it will get run when the computer is turned 
on...within 15 minutes...  and this should include wake from suspend... but 
test it... 

   In general though, this takes scripting... which suse has done for you. 
Typically cron will only run if the machine is on, and only at the specified 
times. The scripting works by having cron check every 15 minutes and then 
against a directory called 
   /var/spool/cron/lastrun
   for files that have been touched... like cron.daily.

   If the cron.daily file exists then its been run, otherwise run it.  



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Re: [opensuse] Yast Software Install and svn command

2007-12-27 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 27 December 2007 22:59, Robert Lewis wrote:
 2)  What RPM gets me the svn shell command /

   try   subversion-x.x.x-x.rpm   package



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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.

2007-12-19 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 16 December 2007 18:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
  Perhaps file creation is a slow operation over nfs :-?

 EVERYTHING is slower over NFS -- or any other network
 connection -- by a factor of 100 or more.
   Yes, and, NFS typically does not work very well across a wan.

Isn't NFS a udp stateless connection that does not guarantee ordering of 
packets? Seems to me that if the connection is over a wan NFS is very slow or 
maybe even non functioning because of packet delays and ordering problems do 
to wan timing and routing.  Does NFS work with tcp these days?



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[opensuse] broadcom drivers

2007-12-19 Thread M Harris
hi folks,
I have installed openSUSE 10.0 on an HP nx98500--- mostly working great with 
the exception of keyboard (see off-topic list) and the broadcom wifi chipset 
no working.
I have heard that openSUSE 10.3 has the appropriate kernel and broadcom 
drivers (BCM43xx) for the HP nx9500. Could someone confirm. 
Also, I would like to purchase the boxed set of 10.3 (if that is still an 
option) --is this only available on-line these days?  It has been a long time 
since I have seen the boxed set on BestBuy, etc.
Is 10.4 around the corner soon?

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.

2007-12-19 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 09:44, Dave Howorth wrote:
 but
 ordering of packets over the network isn't a problem. And yes, either
 TCP or UDP can be used.
  Thanks.  You can tell how long its been since I even tried it... back not 
many years ago only udp worked.  tcp will keep the packets ordered. And 
thanks for the link.



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[opensuse] context menus kde question

2007-12-19 Thread M Harris
hi folks,
I have an openSUSE |KDE context menu question:

When I right click on the open desktop, or within a folder, I have a submenu 
option called Create New under which I have options for Folder, Text Doc, 
HTML, etc. Here is the problem:
I would like to be able to modify that context menu, to include other new 
items like OpenOffice types.  New Text File creates a kwrite object. I would 
like it to create an OOo type instead. How do I modify the context menus?

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Re: [opensuse] context menus kde question

2007-12-19 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 12:49, Don Raboud wrote:
 Hope something here helps.
   Yep...   sounds like its time for me to upgrade.



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Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

2007-12-17 Thread M Harris
On Monday 17 December 2007 12:22, Sloan wrote:
 It would be great if the beagle devs could take a page from
 the boinc playbook, and only use CPU when it is not being used by other
 apps.
   You mean like the windoze devs...?

   cpu timeslice should *never* be in the hands of app developers. The kernel 
schedules the cpu, and timeslice  not app devs.  (windoze never mind)

   However, a sysadmin can adjust the cpu timeslice for beagle, or any other 
cpu intensive app, so that they crawl along happily in the background. The 
apps under such control take longer to complete of course... but in the case 
of massive indexing like beagle --who cares? 

 
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Re: [opensuse] Automated Backups?

2007-12-17 Thread M Harris
On Monday 17 December 2007 12:23, Jerry Houston wrote:
  There was nothing obvious on the pages where I set
 up the profiles and entered the parameters for automatic backups.  I
 assumed that YaST would schedule the tasks for me, based on the day/time
 information I provided.
Did your automatic backup requests end up in a crontab entry?

Take a look in  /etc/cron.daily

(are your other cron entries working?)

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Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

2007-12-17 Thread M Harris
On Monday 17 December 2007 13:24, Anders Johansson wrote:

 I think you're confusing nice with applications' getting priority when
 they're in the foreground (which is the windows strategy), but that's the
 other way around
   Yes... I was alluding to the windoze strategy, but not confused about 
nice... must poking fun at the windoze strategy... 

 Fortunately there is a way of doing it - with ionice you can set IO
 scheduling priority idle, and since it's the IO that kills you, it should
 be good enough
   Yes... nice | ionice  are our friends...


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[opensuse] kernel upgrade question

2007-12-14 Thread M Harris
I have an HP notebook running the boxed set openSUSE 10.0

I would like to upgrade the kernel *only* (modules, etc) without reinstalling 
openSUSE. Can this be done easily?

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Re: [opensuse] kernel upgrade question

2007-12-14 Thread M Harris
On Friday 14 December 2007 12:47, Felix Miata wrote:
 option 1
 smart update; smart install kernel
 option 2
 fetch the kernel you want via http/ftp/wget/etc
 rpm -ivh kernel kernelname
 option 3
 go into YaST, find kernel, and select update
 option 4
 smart update; smart upgrade kernel
 option 5
 fetch the kernel you want via http/ftp
 rpm -Uvh kernel kernelname
Thanks, everyone for the responses...

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Re: [opensuse] I am so mad I can't see straight!!!!!

2007-12-06 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 06 December 2007 16:04, Michael Skiba wrote:

   hope you had lost all your data
 
  Wow. A new low.

 Wasn't he involved in some other flames too?
no... I don't think so...   ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] I am so mad I can't see straight!!!!!

2007-12-06 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 19:08, David C. Rankin wrote:
 I don't know who this Druid prick is, but it would be nice if his list
 privileges were revoked. Perhaps someone at Novell can quietly make this
 happen.
He's actually a fairly bright guy with a lot of talent, who has 
anti-social 
issues... we're all patient with him... just believe in the power of love and 
pray for joy and peace for his soul. He's kinda like a beluga whale (who 
surfaces to spout once in a while), then submerges quietly for a period of 
time.   




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Re: [opensuse] Weird GNOME-related RPM problems

2007-09-06 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 06 September 2007 23:15, Michel Salim wrote:
 I've noticed these related problems on-and-off involving GNOME
 packages on openSUSE 10.2:
K D E



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Re: [opensuse] Smart developers Way OT

2007-09-06 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 06 September 2007 23:22, Bob S wrote:
 Please don't suggest the accessability thing. That is a horror to use.
What I do when the eyes are tired and I need a serious font/icon size 
distortion is to use the ctrl+alt+[+] key to bump the screen resolution---  
sometimes even to 800x600 or 640x480  and with a virtual window of 1024x768 
or higher.  Then I use the mouse to move the window... and I have giant 
fonts/icons in every application across the board. And since I went to the 
SyncMaster 226BW  wide flat-panel the eyes are strained no longer.

Yes, I agree... the accessability thing as you call it leaves much to 
be 
desired.  





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Re: [opensuse] list cops blaming top posts

2007-09-06 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 06 September 2007 10:21, Stevens wrote:
 I don't give a rip one way or the other

If you post in a flame war regarding top-posting, are those postings then 
therefore hot postings or post toasties...   or are they just toasted posts?   
Inquiring minds want to know...  which is all together different from toasted 
puffs... which are made from oats instead of corn...  what were we talking 
about? ...oh yeah, I think it is best to put your fruit on top of the post 
toasties  instead of the bottom... although sometimes the little slices of 
bannana slip to the bottom of the toasted posts making them hard to find in 
the milk... unless its shallow... but by that time they are soggy anyway... 
you know what I mean Marynard?  But I don't give a rip... eat your post 
toasties dry if you want to ...  huh? 



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Re: [opensuse] eth0 become eth1 after upgraded

2007-08-27 Thread M Harris
On Monday 27 August 2007 17:07, d_garbage wrote:
 B) The fact that you get email sent to you as well as the list is to do  
 with some quirk of the reply all system. It means that (perhaps only on  
 some clients) you have to remember to remove the poster's name from the To
   secion and just leave the list address. If you don't notice that or
 forget, then the sender will get a mail too.
Also on some lists (not this list) the list netiquette is to send to 
both--- 
thank goodness most list users don't do that. 



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Re: [opensuse] lost start menu in OpenSuse 10.2

2007-06-25 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 23 June 2007 22:16, Michael Folsom wrote:
 I've heard that gnome is fine till you have a problem then its a nasty
 bear.

 I'm starting to see that this is true -

 Perhaps Linus is right you should just forget gnome.
... this is why some of us (otherwise helpful types) lite-heartedly 
take jabs 
at the gnomester. 



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Re: [opensuse] suse10.2 system crash

2007-06-25 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 24 June 2007 18:23, Serge Naggar wrote:
 The system freezes and I end up
 having to shut down.
It will be helpful to know what is meant by freezes.

Is the system on a network?

When the system freezes ( I assume you mean the desktop becomes 
inactive ) 
can you ping the machine--- from another machine on the network?
Can you get to a black screen console...  using the  key sequence  
ctrl+alt+F1 ?   (be patient, if the cpu is being hammered it might take a 
little bit)

If you can get to a console then login (again, may take a while if the 
cpu is 
being hammered) and run  the  top  command.  See if something is hogging 
cpu or memory...  also could try   ps ax   and try to determine which process 
is taking over the system. 

It is highly unlikely that the kernel will freeze.  


 
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Re: [opensuse] digikam - cannot connect to camera

2007-06-25 Thread M Harris
On Monday 25 June 2007 17:29, Gordon J. Holtslander wrote:
 I get this error message when trying to access it via a konqueror window:

 Could not mount device
 The reported error was:
 No such medium
Gord,
What version of opensuse are you running?

I am finding many folks who are reading the D100 driectly from Gimp, or 
they 
are reading the camera's card via a usb sandisk reader. 

Sometimes a card will get honked, and a simple format of the card (use 
the 
camera) will fix it. 

Are you using raw mode?



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Re: [opensuse] Remote control software able to control physical console

2007-06-23 Thread M Harris
On Friday 22 June 2007 17:13, Moby wrote:
 Is there a way to configure vnc (or any of it's other
 incarnations, such as tightvnc, vino etc) so that one can lock host
 keyboard and blank host monitor?
Sure, through a script you perform the following pseudo commands:

1) ssh into the host machine
2) su -  to root
3) shutdown runlevel 5  with an  init 3  command
4) exit   root
5) start a vncserver
note: you will need to change the defaults 
in .vnc  startup  to start kde instead of twm.
6) use vncviewer over ssh to access the vncserver:
vncserver -via hostname hostname:1

The host machine will have a console login showing, and the remote 
machine 
will have an active desktop running over ssh.  sweet.



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Re: Will Somebody Rid Us Of These List Police (WAS: Re: [opensuse] On-topic list, anyone?)

2007-06-18 Thread M Harris
On Monday 18 June 2007 23:37, Rajko M. wrote:
 all the way to discussion
 about wind power plants :-)
... and motorcycles...

:)
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Re: Will Somebody Rid Us Of These List Police (WAS: Re: [opensuse] On-topic list, anyone?)

2007-06-18 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 19 June 2007 00:13, Kai Ponte wrote:
 I think we should change the SUSE slogan to a beer keg.
I can see it now... 

... the user logs into a terminal and gets:

Last login: Mon Jun 18 19:52:55 2007 from shire.castle.kingdom
Have a lot of Beer...
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Software being accessed by another program??

2007-06-15 Thread M Harris
On Friday 15 June 2007 20:44, Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 YaST does single click selection.
Its neither here nor there... but I wish the interface standards would 
just 
do away with the whole double-click thing. 

Mac has been a single button, single click (I think forever) and it 
works 
great. We now typically have 3-5 button mice with balls and scroll wheels... 
nothing needs to be double-clicked IMO.

/rant
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Re: [opensuse] program startup

2007-06-15 Thread M Harris
On Friday 15 June 2007 08:49, Dan wrote:
 I was wondering if there is a way for a terminal program to startup
 automatically when a machine is restarted, and when you login it will
 show as an open window?
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking for here... (several 
permutations) 
but if you're running KDE, and you open an terminal (IKonsole) set it to size 
vt100 and save the defaults and leave it open when you log out of KDE, 
then the next time (and every time after that) you login the terminal will be 
open and waiting for you input...   just don't close it when you log out.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: Five crucial things the Linux community doesn’t understand about the average computer user - repeat of article - Opinion on Future O/S Developement and Why Linux could then lead t

2007-06-14 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 06:42, Registration Account wrote:
 I don't know why at first opportunity everyone who
 replies to  any issues,
I have forwarded this to OT...

... will respond to it there.


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Re: [opensuse] VMWare and Vista?

2007-06-14 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 14 June 2007 01:15, Kai Ponte wrote:
 I'll fire up a VMWare workstation and generate a vista machine
 tomorrow to see how it goes.
Wear rubber gloves, and use plenty of ventalation. 

:-))
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Re: [opensuse] RE:Back Door Prosiak client connection in Linux

2007-06-14 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 14 June 2007 01:09, Registration Account wrote:
 John are probably be too young
my comments on opensuse-offtopic list,...



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Re: [opensuse] Mouse scroll gone wild crashes 10.2, no problem in 9.0; YAST setting ignored

2007-06-14 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 14 June 2007 17:16, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 Edit the config file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) and set it as in 9.0. For
 instance:
or for 10.0


Section InputDevice
  Driver   mouse
  Identifier   Mouse[1]
  Option   Device /dev/input/mice
  Option   Name PS/2 Logitech Mouse
  Option   Protocol explorerps/2
  Option   Vendor Sysp
  Option   ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection


openSUSE 10.0   Logitech Trackman Wheel

(removed  Option Buttons 5)

The ZAxisMapping is what makes the scroll wheel work, and the scroll 
wheel 
actually activates buttons 4 and 5.



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Re: [opensuse] Swap Devices

2007-06-13 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 20:13, Fernando Costa wrote:
 I don't know exactly what this errors mean and how to repair them.
Sounds like your swap partition (virtual memory partition) is damaged 
and can 
not be activated.  It is relatively easy to recreate a swap partition.  
Please take a look at these files:
man swapon
man swapoff
man mkswap

My  /etc/fstab  entry for the swap partition looks like this:

/dev/sda3swap swap   defaults  0 0

My partition is on device  /dev/sda3. I would use these commands:

swapoff  -a
mkswap  -v1  -L swap  /dev/sda3
swapon  -a

You may have more than one swap area, and one or more may be corrupted.

You can rebuild each of the areas, or all of them, and you can specify 
more 
parms (you will have to decide by reading the man pages I listed).

Hope this helps you  :)


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Re: [opensuse] Swap Devices

2007-06-13 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 20:13, Fernando Costa wrote:
 Recently due to disk spaces reasons, I decrease the size of partition
 where /home was. I created an image file from the partition, then
 decrease the size and load the image to the new partition and I think
 that is the problem, can anybody help me to solve it...
Yes... it sounds like you honked up your partition table... and maybe 
your 
filesystem(s).   
Please upload your  /etc/fstab.
Please upload output from command   df  

If you can, please upload output from an  fdisk  p  command for the 
device 
that is failing.

Depending on how honked it is, we should be able to tell you precisely 
what 
to do by comparing these three pieces of info.




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2007-06-13 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 06:42, Registration Account wrote:
 I don't know why at first opportunity everyone who
 replies to  any issues, firstly jumps to a command line
 to accomplish anything.
Not only are you breaking the OT rules here, but you [gasp] hi-jacked a 
thread to do it... and I'm not sure how you did that either... since this OT 
thread was already running elsewhere...   :-}


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Re: [opensuse] What Does This Mean For Our Future?

2007-06-11 Thread M Harris
On Monday 11 June 2007 16:51, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 I envision (no pun intended) several problems with this.  
snip

Folks do not want to be strapped to a desktop... or table top... 
period. Only 
Micro$tupid would think up something like this...

... the work that is being done to communicate with a system using 
alpha 
waves, eye contact, speech recognition, and the like will fly. I don't 
want to touch it. I'll talk to it, think it, look at it... ok... but touch it 
( a table top ? )  no way.


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Re: [opensuse] What Does This Mean For Our Future?

2007-06-11 Thread M Harris
On Monday 11 June 2007 20:27, Tony Alfrey wrote:
 Fortunately, you can buy his software/hardware and now use
 the table correctly for just a small fee.
... and for an annual slightly exorbitant table-tax, you may choose to 
upgrade your table to the next version every five(5) years or so failure 
to do so will result in everything you place on the table (or within five 
feet of it) permanently disappearing into the ether.

And pay no attention at all to those open tables you see over there in 
the 
other booth... they are no good at all and if you use them something bad will 
happen to you or your children... and we wouldn't want that to happen 'cause 
we whole interoperable families to gather round our table at meal time.





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Re: [opensuse] How can I change the default printer for Firefox

2007-06-10 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 10 June 2007 19:17, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 How do I convince Firefox to
 change to the real default printer instead of his own idea of what should
 be the default printer?
If you're not running Firefox 2.0.0.4, then get it.

... also, go back into cups... use the 

SUSE == Utilities == Printing == Printing Manager

... as administrator (use the root password) and set the default 
printer 
again...  probably didn't take.

Firefox will use the default system printer... mine works great.



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Re: [opensuse] ndiswrapper or madwifi

2007-06-10 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 10 June 2007 21:23, Hans Krueger wrote:
 madwifi loades ath_pci and
 ath_hal
 no go
you need:

ath_pci
ath_rate_sample ---ath_pci
ath_hal ---ath_pci,ath_rate_sample


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Re: [opensuse] Spyware on my laptop? (hope it's not OT)

2007-06-09 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 09 June 2007 02:47, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
 As stated on my original mail y also tried konqueror, and i just input
 the the wrong/not existant address on the browser's address box.
Are you running the NoScript addon with Firefox?

... try clearing the Firefox personal data, cache, etc and then run 
NoScript.


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Re: [opensuse] Only root can use scanner on SuSE 10.2

2007-06-08 Thread M Harris
On Friday 08 June 2007 14:35, Bob Kline wrote:
 I've tried chmod on the /dev files, but that doesn't stick.  I'm not
 surprised: I assume that the device files are set up on the fly, but I
 don't know how to control the permissions.
What you do is to add the user to the group. Check in /dev and get the 
name 
of the group for the device. Then edit  /etc/group  and add the names of the 
users that can use that device. For instance, if the group name is  uucp  
then modify the group uuscp in  /etc/group  to look like this:

uucp:x:14:username1, username2, username3


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Re: [opensuse] Only root can use scanner on SuSE 10.2

2007-06-08 Thread M Harris
On Friday 08 June 2007 14:35, Bob Kline wrote:
 Bonus question (I know, asking two questions in one post lowers the
 chance of getting an answer to either one, but I'll risk it): any way to
 get Linux to respond to the buttons on the front of the scanner (Canon
 CanoScan LIDE30)?
I'm in a good mood...

...  http://gentoo-wiki.com/Scanner_buttons_and_one-touch_scanning





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Re: [opensuse] Only root can use scanner on SuSE 10.2

2007-06-08 Thread M Harris
On Friday 08 June 2007 14:56, Bob Kline wrote:
 Thanks, that would be a perfect solution, except the group owner is set
 to root.  What do I need to configure to get it to be some other group?
Is the scanner usb attached, and do the devices get built dynamically?

I suppose you could make a simple script that you could put into 
boot.local 
that could change the group with chgrp. 

Take a look through the sane docs and see if you can figure out how to 
modify 
the startups (device scripts) for that device so that you can control the 
group for the device.

It seems strange to me that a device like a sane scanner would be root 
root.




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Re: [opensuse] [SOLVED] Only root can use scanner on SuSE 10.2

2007-06-08 Thread M Harris
On Friday 08 June 2007 14:35, Bob Kline wrote:
 I've tried chmod on the /dev files, but that doesn't stick.  I'm not
 surprised: I assume that the device files are set up on the fly, but I
 don't know how to control the permissions.
I found your answer... 

... check section 5.3 of this FAQ:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ljm/SANE-faq.html#46



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Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables

2007-06-06 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 01:00, Benji Weber wrote:
          Ok, these are for Kai... you have our pitty, but you are our
  friend.

 Apparently you don't know kate though. No need for temporary files,
 just use kate -i to read from stdin.
You are correct... in fact, I have never used kate. I think I dated her 
sister once...

... but seriously, I use VIM for all text editing. So, I'm learning 
about joe 
and kate and emacs...by the way... I knew there had to be a way to read 
from stdin with kate (but uffduh) I couldn't find it...   :-Pthanks!  :)

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Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables

2007-06-05 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 01:36, Petr Klíma wrote:
 The caveat is that
 many variables might be set dynamically based on informations read from
 other config files. One can even include his own script setting his own
 set of variables. Many do this.
Yes...

... however, if what you are looking for (at a moment in time) is a 
listing 
of current environment variables you can use the command:

printenv

... either with options or not... without will list to stdout *all* 
current 
environment variables for the current shell. It would be a very simple matter 
of wrapping a PerlTK (or tclTK) gui wrapper around this command to list the 
variable names in a listbox, and then the value in an edit box... the result 
of the gui command would be to export the current edited list on to the 
next shell or next process...  

You could just as easily pipe the output of printenv to a sed|gawk 
routine, 
or perl script, or even grep, to pick out specific envs.

Just some thoughts...


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Re: [opensuse] router DHCP suddenly not talking to one machine (1 0.1)

2007-06-05 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 12:53, Sunny wrote:
 I had problems with a netwrok card, which could not negotiate
 correctly 100 mbps speed because of faulty cable, and I could make it
 run on 10 mbps, until I found out that the problem is with the cable,
 and I need to replace it.
I had the same problem... new cable solved the problem. For 100 always 
use 
the cat 6 cables with the gold leads... they're a little more... but they're 
worth every penny.



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Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables

2007-06-05 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 08:29, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 The attached desktop file will, when activated, open a window that shows
 the environment variables that will  / would be in effect if you were
 to launch an interactive BASH shell.
Very clever... thanks!   

... he can't say it isn't gui...  :)




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Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables

2007-06-05 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 14:50, Randall R Schulz wrote:
    ... he can't say it isn't gui...  :)

 Well, in keeping with a contentious thread now many months in the past,
 I would. (Say it's not a GUI, that is.)
Yeah, I suppose so... 

... and in keeping with that, may I remind those of you who want to try 
Randall's cool desktop environment variable display tool that there are 
several ways to scroll down through the list... since the scroll-bar will not 
help you, and the list is quite long:

ctrl + f  will page forward

ctrl + b will page backward

(depending on your setup, the Page keys will work also)

j   will scroll down line at a time...

k  will scroll up line at a time...

I suppose you could have the wrapper fire up emacs as well... but its a 
well 
known fact that real men use vi... so, there it is.



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Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables

2007-06-05 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 21:13, Kai Ponte wrote:
 Kai stands up

 Hi, my name is, Kai.

 (from audience) Hi, Kai!

 I am a Kate user and I don't know Vi.
Ok, these are for Kai... you have our pitty, but you are our friend.

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Re: [opensuse] hello list

2007-06-04 Thread M Harris
On Monday 04 June 2007 01:35, Munkii wrote:
 sarcasm? i'm subscribed to eight mailinglists, when there're over 200
 new email in your inbox daily, you miss out on the important ones
Munkii,  man you have got to get a real isp and mail client.  I get 
somewhere 
between 250-750 emails every day and if there were no automated mail client 
sitting here sorting those babies out into their 200+ respective folders it 
would be less than good.  (Kmail is good, Thunderbird is really good... how 
about Eudora for Linux...? ) 


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Re: [opensuse] tightvnc version

2007-06-04 Thread M Harris
On Monday 04 June 2007 22:31, Joseph Loo wrote:
 Another question, I have, is why not just run the program as an X-11
 server. For instance, if you run kcalc, do
 ssh -X hostname
 kcalc
 kcalc will now open in your machine but execute the program on host name.
Yes, my folks do this much of the time... in fact, much of the time 
we're 
just piping a konsole back (X11 protocol over ssh) and that works just fine. 

 In general, I run tightvnc only when I need to see what actually is
 happening on the screen e.g., watch the user work the compuer or to have
 programs constantly running. In my case, my host machine is running bit
 torrent and I want to control the operation of the bit torrent client
 remotle. My hostname compuer does not have any keyboard or monitor.
Yes, I agree... and normally we're not running KCalc at all... as you 
might 
have guessed I have been using VNC for some time before even noticing this 
little annoyance. I just happened to pull up KCalc for some quick diddy and I 
just happened to be on one of my tightvnc sessions--- and my keypad started 
behaving most peculiar. rats. 

Anyway, I followed the suggestions of the VNC people and tried forcing 
the 
numlock setting in kde on startup to off.  In fact, I experimented with 
setting it both ways--- and no difference.  Because of the technique they are 
using in the old version 1.2.9  of emulating numlock on behavior for the 
keypad by using a shift_L keysym with the KP_8 keysym the 8 key gets 
interpretted in KCalc as a * multiplication key one way or the other. I 
still have not installed the latest version of tightvnc... probably tomorrow 
morning.  

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Re: [opensuse] How to Customize Desktop

2007-06-04 Thread M Harris
On Monday 04 June 2007 23:07, Kai Ponte wrote:
 Remember: It is better to look good than to feel good.
Unless you feel so bad you actually don't care how you look  :-(  

... migrain today...   rats.



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Re: [opensuse] Kernel only see 3 of 4GB

2007-06-04 Thread M Harris
On Monday 04 June 2007 23:57, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 What, then, is KMP? I've never heard of it and cannot find any relevant
 information on the Web.
I don't know much about the term either... but it means, Kernel Module 
Packages.  

google   kmp kernel Novell





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Re: [opensuse] Assembly Language program

2007-06-03 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 03 June 2007 13:43, Vince L wrote:
  too many oldtimer, here :-)))

 Punched cards, anyone?
My first official computer related job (ca. 1970, I was 15) was 
computer 
operator on an IBM 360 mod44 (fully transistorized high speed number 
crunching mainframe--- with 256K of main ram!). At the time there were only 
11 of those models in the world. The one I worked on sat on the 2nd floor of 
Upsher's Laboratories in Kansas City. That sucker had a high speed mag tape 
reader, high speed yellow punched tape reader, and of course a turbo punched 
card hopper.  We eventually installed drive packs... with platters the size 
of a large cake pan... and the drive units were the size of a washing 
machine. The whole thing sat on a raised floor, required its own building 
circuit... and was cooled by three air-conditioner units mounted on the roof. 
The lab used the unit primarily to analyse electro-cardiograms from the 
four-state area hospitals. The programming (I must have punched a zillion 
cards in the early seventies...) was Fortran II / IV     we had an entire 
room of card cabinets.   Oh, and the best part were all the blinking 
lights... that thing had the primary registers lit up on the front panel... 
selectable with a large wheel switch... and of course the stdout device was a 
Selectric 1 console.
The last time I saw an IBM 360 mod44 was at the Chicago Museum of 
Science and 
Industry... in the IBM wing... behind a glass case.  sigh   That was the 
machine that brought T.J. Watson Jr fame for saying, from this point on we 
will never make another computer with vacuum tubes!   And the second famous 
quote when his son asked him what they were doing down at the lab... he said, 
I have no idea... but whatever it is they're doing it at 300,000 times per 
second.
I still remember vividly about dreaming of a time when I might own my 
own 
computer ... and be able to do anything I could imagine with it... 



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Re: [opensuse] Assembly Language program

2007-06-03 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 03 June 2007 06:43, James Knott wrote:
 Anyone here remember doing assembly code in DEBUG?
Back in the mid '80s we used debug.com at the Tampa lab to 
efficiently send 
printer control codes to the new line of Proprinters by IBM.  The same thing 
could be done with some trouble with Rom BASIC... but the simplicity of 
calling the bios from a com file for configuring a printer control stream 
couldn't be beat... 
A buddy and I were all ready to right a new debug clone for linux (32 
bit). 
But after getting used to yasm, and gdb, we decided to forgo the effort.  For 
those of you who never used it, debug was a combination of debugging tool 
(register display) and machine language monitor.  It was the latter that most 
folks were unaware of usually...  early .com files could be written quickly 
that would run hundreds of times faster than interpretted counter parts... 
and back then all we really has was BASIC, and some rather early level 
expensive Pascal from Borland and others.
Assembler is having a bit of a revival these days because of the full 
32 bit 
flat memory model provided by linux (no worry about segmentation or near/far 
calls etc) and the fact that the C library can be used with it almost 
transparently. And for some of us--- messing around with the guts of the 
processor is just plain fun... 



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Re: [opensuse] tightvnc version

2007-06-02 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 02 June 2007 06:59, Joseph Loo wrote:
 I get a multiplication when doing it. I do not think it is tightvnc that is
 doing it because, if you open a standard xterm, it comes out as 8.
Yes, that is my result also... that is why I used xev... because it 
will tell 
me exactly which keysyms are being sent to KDE and being interpretted by 
KCalc...  this is the update I sent to the tightvnc people:

/begin

 I am using tightvnc 1.2.9 which shipped with openSUSE 10.0.  I have 
several headless application servers serving shared kde desktops across ssh 
tunnels with the vncviewer also running as the client on openSUSE 10.0.   
This setup is working great, and I want to thank the team who is making GPL 
tightvnc possible.

I have a minor concern with the way the numeric keypad is handled, and I am 
wondering whether this has already been addressed, or if I need to open a bug 
report.  I did some searching but did not find what I was looking for.

In version 1.2.9 the numeric keypad is not being handled properly when the 
numlock is on.  From my vncviewer client I am accessing my remote kde desktop 
and running (from within a konsole) the xev tool. This displays the x events 
(keypresses and keyreleases) plus the associated keysyms. With the numlock 
off the keypad works as I would expect it to. The 7 key is keysym KP_Home, 
the 8 key is KP_Up, etc.  Each key receives ONE keypress event, and ONE 
keyrelease event.  However, when the numlock is on then the behavior is not 
expected which causes different kinds of problems depending which app is 
needing the keypad.  With numlock on the 7 key recieves [ in this order ] :
keypressshift_L
keypressKP_7
keyrelease  shift_L
keyrelease  KP_Home
[ this is not correct behavior, even though it does work for 
some things ]
The 8 key press with numlock on gives:
keypressshift_L
keypressKP_8
keyrelease  shift_L
keyrelease  KP_Up
[again, not correct and very strange behavior in some apps]

The shift meta keys should not be used at all--- although the technique would 
work for the most part if the keyreleases were in the correct order.  Here is 
what happens in  kcalc ---  the 8 key activates the  *  key [multiplication 
key] why?-- because the 8 is being interpretted as an 8 with the shift_L 
key down... *.    

Using the shift_L technique vncviewer should be sending the keyrelease shift_L 
*last*.   However, even so, it will not work in KCalc because the 8 key will 
still be interpretted as an  * .

What should be happening is this:
keypressNum_Lock
keyrelease  Num_lock
keypressKP_8
keyrelease  KP_8

So, I would like to know is this a bug?  If so, has it been fixed in 1.3.x (I 
have downloaded the tarball but have not installed it as yet)?  Is there a 
work-around in the current version, or is there something I am missing here?

/end

The tightvnc folks say to install the 1.3.9 version... which I *have* 
downloaded, but which I have not installed as yet.  They tell me that the old 
version numlock state was the state of the Server PC instead of the Client 
PC. When the client pushes numlock the numlock comes on at the client but 
stays off at the server?.   Yikes.  I am playing with that now... but have 
not confirmed that that is my problem.  I still think its a bug in vncviewer.  
Different apps give different results depending on whether the keyreleases 
are valid symbols for the app!

I'll keep you posted.  :-|



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Re: [opensuse] again ndiswrapper!

2007-06-02 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 02 June 2007 17:07, Danesh Daroui wrote:
 I am desperately trying to make my wireless card working with
 ndiswrapper. Actually, it used to work fine before and the problem
 began when I reinstalled opensuse! I have reinstalled ndiswrapper many
 times. I did also run modprobe ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper -m after
 installation but my wireless card doesn't work! Can anybody help?
Maybe...

... sometimes what happens is that the reinstall of openSUSE 
*reinstalls* the 
driver (outofbox) that is supposed to support that card, but in fact 
doesn't...  in other words, hal loads a module for the ath device effectively 
preventing ndiswrapper from loading the appropriate proprietary driver. 
Basically the steps are as followings:
1) find out which driver is being loaded for the card

use lsmod from root to get a printout of all loaded modules 
after bootup

2) remove or rename those mods... 

3) install the proprietary drivers into an appropriate directory and 
then 
install then with:

ndiswrapper -i /home/yourdriver.inf

4) check the driver got installed

ndiswrapper -l

5) Use yast to configure the card and under advanced hardware enter 
ndiswrapper as the driver name.

Should work fine... well, better than no driver at all. 

Try to find a card that will work without ndiswrapper.  I recommend the 
 
WG311T  from netgear...  108mb/s  802.11a,b,g  and the ath drives work great 
right out of the box...   stay away from the WG311v3...   supposed to be the 
same and it does not work without ndiswrapper.  words to the wise.



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Re: [opensuse] Assembly Language program

2007-06-02 Thread M Harris
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:22, azeem ahmad wrote:
 i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
 but i am being unable to get it done
Whoa bubba... I am surprised you can make lunch... but seriously, who 
taught 
you how to write assembler code?Ok, here is a sample hello, world! 
program that includes a counted loop to the iolib wrapper routine 
( hello.asm ) and the io wrapper ( iolib.asm ) and a Makefile. All you will 
need to build this hello world demo in opensuse is yasm|nasm , binutils 
( ld ) and elf (standard).  Its a flat 32 bit sample, staticly linked, and 
does not call any of the c library.  Enjoy, but pay particular attention to 
the format, the style, the comments, and the Makefile.  note: do not include 
the /begin /end lines in the code files.

/begin hello.asm
section .text
global _start
extern stdOut

_start:
mov ecx,count   ;loop counter
mov eax,hello   ;setup data hello
mov edx,hellolen

wrtHello:
callstdOut  ;write data hello
loopwrtHello;loop back until counter is zero

mov eax,1   ;sys_exit
mov ebx,0   ;return code 0 (no error)
int 80h ;call the kernel

section .data
hello   db  'Hello, World!',10
hellolen:   equ $-hello
count:  equ 07h
/end hello.asm

/begin iolib.asm
section .text
global stdOut

stdOut:
pushedx ;save environment
pushecx ;
pushebx ;
pusheax ;
mov ecx,eax ;setup data register
mov eax,4   ;sys_write
mov ebx,1   ;standard out
int 80h ;call kernell
pop eax ;restore environment
pop ebx ;
pop ecx ;
pop edx ;
ret
/end iolib.asm

/begin Makefile
all: hello

AS = yasm
ASMOPTS = -f elf
LINKOPTS = -s -o hello

hello: hello.o iolib.o
ld $(LINKOPTS) hello.o iolib.o

hello.o: hello.asm
$(AS) $(ASMOPTS) hello.asm

iolib.o: iolib.asm
$(AS) $(ASMOPTS) iolib.asm

clean:
rm hello.o iolib.o hello

install:
cp hello ~/bin/
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[opensuse] tightvnc version

2007-06-01 Thread M Harris
Which version of tightvnc shipped with 10.2?   


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Re: [opensuse] tightvnc version

2007-06-01 Thread M Harris
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:39, Joseph Loo wrote:
  but under 10.2 I am using 1.2.9
Thanks.  I have run into a little small problem with the numeric keypad 
(with 
numlock on) and some apps like KCalc.  1.2.9 shipped with openSUSE 10.0.  The 
VNC people have release 1.3.9 (stable) ready--- I downloaded it tonight but 
have not installed it as yet.  

I am noticing a little small problem with KCalc and the numeric 
keypad... 
would you try something for me on your 10.2 and let me know what happens 
please ?

vncviewer -via hostname hostname:1   [ what a great tip, thanks ]

Then on your remote desk start KCalc from the suse menu.

Then press the numlock on...   and then enter an  8 key  from the 
keypad... 
and tell me... does it enter an 8,  or does it act like the  X  
[multiplication] key?

I did some debugging on my system... with xev... but I spare you the 
details 
pending your feedback...  but I don't think they are handling numlock 
correctly.  I am wanting to know whether its been fixed in the new release or 
if I'm missing something here... thanks again.


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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread M Harris
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:50, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
 .suolucidir gnitteg si siht woN
hi Darryl,

You made me laugh.. thanks.  :)  And you reminded me of a question for 
you 
(or the list) that has me wondering about easter eggs.. the software kind.  
The other day while I was editing text in the kmail composer window I 
accidentally hit a key combination (which I have not been able to reproduce) 
and *all* of the text in the window redisplayed in a mirror image left to 
right [ and right justified ! ]  and I was wondering if anyone else has seen 
that, and what that key combination might me...  its not a huge concern, but 
it was kinda funny and it would be nice to know what I did.

The way out of it was to save the text to draft (closing the composer) 
and 
then reopening the mail... everything was ok.   



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[opensuse-factory] CD Packages Yasm Nasm

2007-05-31 Thread M Harris
hi, I was referred to this list from [opensuse-project]--- to request a 
package change for the next release CD|DVD of openSUSE.

My suggestion is to include the packages [ yasm, nasm ] on the five(5) CD set 
as well as the DVD. Currently it is included on the DVD, but was omitted from 
the CDs. Also, it would be helpful (for some of us at least) to have yasm, 
nasm, auto-included in either the development selection or the experienced 
users selection in Yast Software Management. 

TIA



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Re: [opensuse] Probably not important but

2007-05-31 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 31 May 2007 04:17, Petr Klíma wrote:
 You've missed something called Cool'n'Quiet.
My laptop bios settings provide an option to manually throttle back the 
frequency stepping as the standard. My laptop *can* run at 1.2Ghz but if I 
can run it at 700Mhz it runs considerably cooler and the battery life is 
considerably longer.  My laptop will throttle back from 700 if everything is 
idle... but under load it will never run at full speed (or full heat).



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Re: [opensuse] vncserver access via putty but not from remote desktop sharing

2007-05-31 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 31 May 2007 18:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to use KDE desktop sharing. However I am unable to login
 into the remote desktop via http
Some additional details [ how you are going to use this in your setup ] 
would 
be great... because there are several good ways to do this.

I share several of my systems [ and multiple desktops ] across my 
network 
using vncserver, and tightvnc tunnels over ssh, to allow many users access to 
several (a few) servers via shared desktops. 

I can provide a point-by-point howto, but the big picture for now is 
this:

First each server machine runs headless. From remote a user can start a 
vncserver (from their userid home dir) which starts a virtual frame 
buffer---and starts KDE. [ some of my users start gnome, but that's another 
story ]  Then the user issues a remote background command over an ssh tunnel 
that starts vncviewer [ running on the server machine ] and then pipes the 
vncserver back over the X11 ssh session... including password requests etc 
all compressed and encrypted. This works *very* well for local area nets with 
adequate speeds, eliminates the need to open a vnc port on the server, and 
keeps the whole shabang secure. If the desktop needs to be *shared* then the 
vncserver is started with the option to share.  I have used this technique 
for net-meetings and for collaboration... doesn't work well across the WAN... 
but for local setups its fine. You can do a similar thing using the vncviewer 
from the client machine and logging into an open vnc server port on the 
host... but if you do this its a better idea to change the default server 
port number to something else otherwise, its not a good idea.

Directly logging in to a remote desktop isn't such a good idea... also, 
its 
not a real good idea to log directly into an open vnc port... or another way 
to put this is that it is not a good idea to keep a vnc server port open.  
With the first technique the only port open is ssh.  Shipping vnc over ssh is 
more secure, if not much fastereven compressed. 

Is this what you have in mind, or something else?




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Re: [opensuse] vncserver access via putty but not from remote desktop sharing

2007-05-31 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 31 May 2007 19:01, M Harris wrote:
  I am trying to use KDE desktop sharing. However I am unable to login
  into the remote desktop via http

 Some additional details [ how you are going to use this in your
 setup ] would be great... because there are several good ways to do this.
Does this go back to your question earlier about running GLX over ssh?


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Re: [opensuse] vncserver access via putty but not from remote desktop sharing

2007-05-31 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 31 May 2007 19:42, Joseph Loo wrote:
 You might want to consider vncviewer -via hostname hostname:1. This will
 create a ssh connection to hostname with the same user id you are running
 from.
Joseph Loo, thank you very much.

... this is just another example in my life where a paradigm shift was 
desperately needed!  Thanks again!

I have been creating my own tunnel and running the vncviewer 
(serverside) 
basically piping the X11 protocol back to the client... for so long that I 
just never really considered doing it any other way... and tightvnc has a 
*way* better way.

So, I snooped out the  -via  option and the  VNC_VIA_CMD  environment 
variable (didn't know they existed until tonight--- again, thank you.  So, 
with the clever trick you just taught me:

vncviewer -via hostname hostname:1 
(first password prompt is the tunnel [ssh] password)
(second password prompt is the vnc server password on 
hostname)

the viewer (clientside) establishes the ssh tunnel 
automatically and 
then pipes the VNC *protocol* over the tunnel, instead of X11.  This is 
*much* faster of course---again, thank you!  

The last piece I have to snoop out here is the VNC_ENV_CMD environment 
variable. Using my old scripts some environment is setup (client side, server 
side) before and after the tunnel is established and then the vncviewer is 
called.  My client side stuff can be done easily enough before I start the 
viewer with -via ,  and I think I can modify the VNC_ENV_CMD variable to 
accomplish the same thing I was doing with a script serverside... and if so, 
then whalla Mr Loo--- you have improved my connection efficiency and speed--- 
again, thank you thank you!



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Re: [opensuse] glx via tighvnc

2007-05-30 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 00:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am unable to run GLX through the tightvnc remote connection via ssh
 tunneling (using KDE or fwm or gnome, but was possible on MandrakeKde).
 GLX runs on local login.
Typically you want to minimize the detail on a vnc connection (even 
compressed through ssh). Set backgrounds to solid colors, and minimize the 
amount of activity on the screen...  I usually do not animate windows, and I 
use a passive active cursor for launchers.  I would not even consider running 
GLX over a tunneled tight vnc connection but I'm sure you'll find 
somebody here who does.  :)



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Re: [opensuse] glx via tighvnc

2007-05-30 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 01:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep, if I am outside the LAN I agree. But I have sufficient speed .
 Pitty is I need it to run some statistical program that requires GLX for
 a limited part, but expects it on startup...
Well, GLX requires hardware support and vnc is a software virtual 
frame 
buffer so I'm surprised it would ever work... but then I'm not sure what is 
supposed to happen if the client (vncviewer) is running on a machine with 
hardware support for GLX then does it work?I still cannot imagine that it 
would run fast enough to make it worth it.  



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Re: [opensuse] glx via tighvnc

2007-05-30 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 01:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I said, I used to run it in an earlier version. The issue is not the
 speed because I do not do gaming. All I need it for is to start up the
 stats prg, which requires it...
Well, when I tunnel into my server and run glxgears, glx is piped back 
to the 
client over ssh (compressed) albeit running much slower... and I get the 
following errors:
libGL error: open DRM failed (operation not permitted)
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering

1072 frames in 6.0 seconds   178.667 FPS



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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Making Basic Utilities work under normal user

2007-05-30 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 14:22, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
   Adding /sbin/ to user's $PATH doesn't lower your security. (because
 
  Thats your oppinion or do you have some way to prove that?

 1. Well, you're still bound to the Linux security model.
hi Alexey,  
The security model is not the issue. In fact, security really has 
nothing to 
do with the core issue here--- the other respondents are attempting to 
address the LSB issue which is unfortunately at permanent odds with your idea 
regarding sbin utils. 
What is at stake is the Linux Standard Base, and LSB certification 
compliance. Please reference the following link:

http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Products

The products listed above are certified to be in compliance with the 
open 
standards ---Linux Standard Base... for instance openSUSE 10.0 is in 
compliance with the core LSB version 3.0.  There are lots of good ways to 
organize a system... and I could probably think of some myself... but the 
idea here is to prevent Linux from fragmenting. What differentiates one 
distribution from another should *not* be its basic organization and 
functionality. I should be able to drive Fedora just as easily as openSUSE, 
as Ubuntu. The greater benefit of course  that comes from LSB is an open 
standard development platform. We want developers to write code for Linux... 
and the only way that really works in practice is to have the core system 
pretty much an open standard so that developers know what to expect... not to 
mention users! ---a new app should install and run fine on Fedora, and on 
openSUSE, and on Ubuntu.

LSB is a good thing for everyone over the long haul.


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Re: [opensuse] opensuse repositories now illegal in Germany

2007-05-29 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 04:00, G T Smith wrote:
    This is just about as silly as the judge who shocked the Woolwich
  Crown Court in the UK for not knowing what a web-site was.
 
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007220614,00.html

 I suspect (as you do) that this comment was taken out of context, and
 really shocked no-one over here.
Yes, while the judge was accurately quoted (making headlines around the 
world), on-line defense for the Honorable Peter Openshaw indicating that the 
judge's quote (taken out of context) was intended to clarify complex evidence 
for the court system can be found at the following link. Judge Openshaw is 
completely computer literate.


http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2007/05/18/uk_judge_defended_over_what_is_web_site_comment/




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Re: [opensuse] opensuse repositories now illegal in Germany

2007-05-28 Thread M Harris
On Monday 28 May 2007 16:57, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 Could you provide some pointers to on-line information regarding this
 law?
[ . . . ]

2. Creating, procuring for themselves or others, selling, distributing, 
   handing over or in any other manner making available to others 
   computer programs the purpose of which is the commission of such a 
   criminal offense will be punished with a prison term of up to one 
   year or with a fine.

As the wording of the draft makes clear the sole criterion here is the 
objective risks inherent in the software -- and not as one might expect 
the purpose for which it is meant to be used. Thus it says verbatim:

In particular the potentially widespread distribution of hacker tools 
made possible by the Internet, their easy availability, as well as their 
simple use, constitute a considerable danger, which can only be combated 
effectively by making the distribution as such of such inherently 
dangerous tools a crime.

Thus it is suggested in Section 1 Subheading 2 that the committing of an 
act or acts preparatory to the commission of a criminal offense as 
defined in 202a or 202b StGB by creating, procuring, selling, 
distributing, handing over or in any other manner making available to 
others computer programs the purpose of which is the commission of such 
a criminal offense be penalized.

The draft has been vehemently criticized by German industry associations 
such as the Association for Information Technology, Telecommunications 
and New Media (Bitkom) (PDF file) and eco (PDF file) as well as the 
Chaos Computer Club (CCC).




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Re: [opensuse] opensuse repositories now illegal in Germany

2007-05-28 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 00:27, M Harris wrote:
 2. Creating, procuring for themselves or others, selling,
 distributing, handing over or in any other manner making available to
 others
    computer programs the purpose of which is the commission of such a
    criminal offense will be punished with a prison term of up to one
    year or with a fine.

http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/79230

Following the logic of 202c to its ultimate conclusion results in 
making the 
entire distribution of openSUSE (or any other distro) illegal--- because a 
computer system (kernel, ip stack, and utilities) all constitute the standard 
tools through which a cyber crime is committed. The ludicrous hyper 
interpretation of this section of the German penal code (StGB) must 
necessarily lead to the conclusion that the distribution of entire operating 
systems and utilities ( not just port scanners like nmap ) are dangerous 
because they can be used in the commission of a cyber crime. 

This is just about as silly as the judge who shocked the Woolwich Crown 
Court 
in the UK for not knowing what a web-site was. 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007220614,00.html

Clearly technology has presented legal western culture with a serious problem 
for aging ( judicial and legislative ) dogs who are apparently not able to 
learn new tricks. 

Obviously education is needed; however, another thing that the 
community can 
do is to re-market certain tools in a positive light... perhaps even 
repackaging tools like nmap... giving nmap a new name like health-map, and 
packaging it with network security tools to be used for the expressed purpose 
of protecting local infrastructures, etc.  

On the other hand, nmap has been in the community for so long that to 
outlaw 
its distribution is very analogous to outlawing the distribution of firearms. 
If we outlaw the distribution of firearms only criminals will have firearms. 
If we outlaw the distribution of security tools like nmap, only crackers will 
have nmap. (well, along with the millions of other folks like myself who 
already have it)

sigh


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Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE locks up

2007-05-27 Thread M Harris
On Sunday 27 May 2007 20:51, Jerry Feldman wrote:
 In past experience, lockups are related to the GUI, not to the kernel.
 Since the display manager is in control of the keyboard, you can't do
 ctrl-alt-F1. In the past, I would use my laptop or my wife's Windows
 system using Putty, which is one reason for having sshd installed.
Another thing you can do is open the physical serial port (or usb 
dongle) so 
that you have an agetty waiting around. This has come in handy for me more 
than a few times as I've been experimenting... just provides one more 
interface alternative for those times when X misbehaves.  And of course this 
is mandatory for a head-less machine as a backup interface or serial console.



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Re: [opensuse] Urge creation of a standard documented way to share a directory [WAS Re: Wanna umask inhereted from parent directory]

2007-05-26 Thread M Harris
On Friday 25 May 2007 12:57, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 Do people agree that using ACLs is the best approach.
Yes.

However, in all seriousness, I have never seen a practical example 
where 
using the standard unix permission bits, with careful assignment of user 
groups, does not work.

ACLs on the other do seem to offer a level of organizational 
flexibility that 
is appealing.  And automating any of this is just a matter of scripting 
imagination and time.


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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 17:53, Jim Flanagan wrote:
  I'm starting to think this card is not very well
 supported, by neither ATI nor xorg. I could try my older Radeon 9200 ,
 oops, sorry, it a 9000 with 64mb ram.
Yeah, I am getting mixed signals from folks regarding these same 
cards... 
some folks are saying that the out-of-box drivers are giving 3D results... 
while others cannot get the card to work at all without the proprietary 
driver... so, I'm wondering about the firmware on the card... anyway, I think 
I'm done with ATI until they make some significant improvements... both open 
source wise, and hardware wise.



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Re: [opensuse] Giving individual rights

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 02:31, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
 How could I give a person read only rights to a file or directory?

 Say someone has to see information for accounting reasons of a project but
 doesn't need to change any data..
This is a common unix | Linux scenario.  And with Linux there are many 
many 
possible answers to this question depending on whether you want to authorize 
groups or individuals, and whether you would like to use the added 
functionality of Access Control Lists.

Let's say I want to make one of my directories read-only for everybody 
in my 
users group, but inaccessible to everyone else--- and only I can write to 
the directory:

mkdir  MyNewDir

chmod 0750 MyNewDir

Now I'm going to create a file in the directory that is read only for 
everyone:

cd MyNewDir

touch MyNewFile

chmod 0644 MyNewFile

The digits 0644 are octal numbers that break out into three bits each, each 
bit representing (r)ead (w)rite (e)xecute
0   sticky  (don't worry about it just now)
6   110 r w -   (owner me)
4   100 r - -   (users)
4   100 r - -   (others)

Directories must have execute permission set on in order to be accessed. 
Others will not be able to access MyNewDir, even though they have read 
authority to MyNewFile... because others do not have execute permissions on 
the directory. Users may access the directory, and they may read MyNewFile, 
but they may NOT change MyNewFile... they do not have write authority to the 
file.

Permission bits are very basic to all unix installations... including Linux. 
You will find much detailed info on-line, and in the opensuse docs, that 
describe the file system, permissions bits, chmod command (also chown, chgrp) 
as well as the newer ACL access control lists.  

There are several ways to issue the chmod command... and there is a symbolic 
way to set the bits besides being good with octal.

Hope this gets you started... as you get comfortable... ask a specific 
question and we'll help you with a more specific answer... this answer is 
fairly short... but whole books have been written on the subject.





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Re: [opensuse] Giving individual rights

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 03:34, M Harris wrote:
  Say someone has to see information for accounting reasons of a project
  but doesn't need to change any data..

 This is a common unix | Linux scenario.
And this is the gui answer... if you have a file (or directory) that 
you want 
to share, then you can use konqueror file management (browser) to change the 
file's attributes.
Right click on the item with your mouse...

... then click the properties .

Then, click the Permissions tab at the top of the dialog...

... and set them as you like.




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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video SOLVED

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 07:21, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 In the past I have
 assumed this was due to me running the base video drivers and not the
 ATI drivers. But at this point I dunno, and I'm not going to try to
 install the ATI drivers again
Well, GL-117 flight simulator also will pause (just for a sec) every 
now and 
again... running the ATI proprietary driver. I thought it had to do either 
with my overall memory being too small, or my AGP apature being set too 
small...  3D video is one of the areas that I have not really delved into and 
so I don't technically understand yet why there are glitches.



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Re: [opensuse] Giving individual rights

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 12:25, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
  access the directory, and they may read MyNewFile, but they
  may NOT change MyNewFile... they do not have write authority
  to the file.

 I understand that much. But that's everyone in 'users' group. I want just
 one individual person to have read-only permission.
Assign the individual to a different group. 

By default in opensuse every new user is added to the users group. 
For the 
one individual--- assign her to a restricted group. The other permission 
bits will then apply to her... and anyone else *not* in the users group. 
All of your users can have the users permissions (r w - ) and the other 
permissions ( r - - ) will apply to her... and everyone else in groups other 
than users.

Another way to be more specific (and more flexible) is to use ACLs. If 
you 
open your suse help center and click on the 
Reference==Administration==Access Control Lists in Linux ,  you will find 
some really good into on setting up versatile and flexible authorization 
schemes.  Basically chapter 24 sections 1-5 for the printed manual.

I have been playing around with ACLs for a while... but really, must of 
what 
I need to get accomplished can be easily handled with the traditional unix 
permission bits... take a go at it.




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Re: [opensuse] how to burn my cpu?

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 07:33, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
 I am looking for an app that makes my CPU as hot as can be.

 This is to test various things that should make my PC silently running
 on a shoestring while staying stable as is.
time echo scale=1010; 16*a(1/5)-4*a(1/239) |bc -lq

The above will compute PI to 1000+ decimal places in about 300-400 ms 
on a 
modern PC.  But, if you set scale sufficiently high say,   20  then 
the cpu will become quite warm... and will not damage anything. 




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Re: [opensuse] how to burn my cpu?

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 15:45, Randall R Schulz wrote:
  Arbitrary (and realistic, everyday) instruction mixes don't
 often do that.
Yup, but the PI routine does... really.

... and its measurable  (its amazing).


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Re: [opensuse] SAX2 Default Video

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 16:40, jdd wrote:
  I googled and can't find a way - I remember in earlier versions of
  SAX2 that I could change my video driver. This seems no longer the
  case. Am I missing something on 10.2?

 certainly

 sax tab key gives youn also some variants try also sax2 -h

Kai, try this:

sax2  -r  -m  0=nv



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Re: [opensuse] SAX2 Default Video

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 16:55, M Harris wrote:
 Kai, try this:

 sax2  -r  -m  0=nv

... as root, in runlevel 3



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Re: [opensuse] how to burn my cpu?

2007-05-24 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 17:08, James Knott wrote:
 Maybe you should try one of those infinite binary loops, that were so
 popular a few years back.  They were supposedly able to trash a CPU!  ;-)
... I've never actually been able to ruin a cpu that was properly 
sinked and 
vented...   what the PI routine does not do is IO, not till its done anyway. 
But what it does do if scale is set high enough is to force the memory 
requirements off chip... so it exercises not just the ALU, but the bus logic 
as well... and it keeps those flops toggling long and fast which in turn 
draws lots of current which in turn creates lots of heat.   Most of the time 
the processor in a linux machine is pretty much sitting there idle... that 
has always amazed me also




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Re: [opensuse] Still having problems with xorg and video

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 09:34, Jim Flanagan wrote:
 My xorg.cong contains all these lines, except the dri. The others are
 there, but not in the same order. Does that matter? I have not added
 dri yet, should I?
dri is the 3D ...   or, in other words, normally checking the 3D box 
(which 
is grayed out in your case) adds the dri.  Even though my 3D box was grayed 
out I was able to add the dri to the list manually to activate 3D.   Its 
worth a try.





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Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 10:25, Kai Ponte wrote:
 It seems when I'm using firefox - which is most of
 the time - I get a lock up. The clock icon shows and I can pretty much
 do nothing but power off.
Kai, does an alt-F1 take to you a console (black screen)?   When it 
locks 
can you ping it from another box... or is it casters-up dead?




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Re: [opensuse] Keyboard with buttons

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 10:32, Chris Arnold wrote:
 Great directions but i am using gnome :) Anyone know how to do this in
 gnome?
Yes... (I was hoping you would switch to kde)   :-)

Ok, gnome bindings work pretty much the same way... and the setup for 
creating keysyms is exactly the same.  Check out this link on the Ubuntu 
forums...   the desk on Ubuntu is gnome... these instructions are detailed 
and will get you going:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039






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Re: [opensuse] su - shared objcet or executable?

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:24, Denis Silakov wrote:
 The thing is that we are collecting information about different
 distributions for the Linux Standard Base -

 https://www.linux-foundation.org/dbadmin/browse/distr.php

 and in the LSB there are 'Libraries' (system-wide shared libraries) and
 there are 'Commands' (for example, different utilities). All
 distribution data is collected automatically, but I don't see at the
 moment how to distinguish LSB commands from LSB libraries. The idea was
 to use `file` output, but very often it reports 'shared object' for
 files which we'd like to add as commands...
hi Denis,  you might want to take a look at:

/usr/share/misc/magic

This file details all of the types magic numbers... there is a 
difference 
between a shared object and a shared library the file might be of some 
help to you.



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Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:49, Kai Ponte wrote:
 I can ping it.  I just had it happen while resizing a konqueror window.
Open ssh to it...   and when it locks see if you can ssh login to it...

Trying to find out if the kernel is dead... or just the interface... if 
you 
can ping it then at least the card is responding... but probably also the 
kernel... see if you can ssh into it...




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Re: [opensuse] alt-F1?

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:52, John E. Perry wrote:
 As far as I know, my system is a simple standard opensuse 10.2 with the
 basic suse updates through opensuseupdater.  No hacks, no obscure window
 manager additions.  Why is my X different?  Should I be concerned?
No you are correct.  Often the alt-F1 term is used as an identifier (to 
differentiate the black screen console from Konsole on the desktop) versus an 
operational command

Yes, to actually access the black screen consoles from the desktop (on 
distros) is   ctl-alt-Fx;   however,  to get back ... just alt-F7.  




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Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:49, Kai Ponte wrote:
  can you ping it from another box... or is it casters-up dead?

 alt-f1 does nothing.  Neither does ctrl-alt-esc or ctrl-backspace.
 The mouse appears to move, but that's it.
Does  a  ctl-alt-F1  bring up the console?


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Re: [opensuse] alt-F1?

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 12:08, jdd wrote:
 it's alt Fx from an other console, Ctrl Alt Fx from graphic interface
 jdd
Yup, always has been... 



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Re: [opensuse] Bye Bye Vista - Hello issue with SUSE...

2007-05-23 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 14:05, Kai Ponte wrote:
 Yes - and before anyone else freaks out about how to get back (I did)
 CTRL+ALT+F7 gets you back.

 :P
But, when you got back... is X (KDE) unlocked?



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Re: [opensuse] internet connection sharing problem on home network problem

2007-05-22 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 01:03, Gustav Degreef wrote:
 First, is this
 possible?
Yes.

You need to setup the default gateway on machine (2) to point to the 
address 
on machine (1).   Machine (1) must have ip forwarding turned on of course.


On machine (2):
In yast select network devices--network card-- edit   then click 
routing.

Enter the address of the machine (1).

retry.


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