Re: [opensuse] Strange SATA problems with openSUSE
On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 15:35 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:15:46 +0100, Clayton wrote: > > >how is this fix supposed to be applied since the problem is there on the > >master ISO? > > As Tejun wrote, by way of a driver update disk. You insert the disk at > installation time and the installation will use updated drivcers it > finds on it. > > Philipp I recall there were two or three bugs posted, then combined onto one. I voted for one of them, and fell back to a new installation on one sata and one EIDE drive. I have not had time to returned to the issue. I rather assumed that a future kernel update (of which I have kept current) would include whatever fix they came up with. (In my case, the bug toasted the sdb7 partition (/usr/lib). My /local and /data partitions were raid5's on the two sata drives, and I have not done anything yet to attempt a recovery of that information.) Are you saying that it requires a separate driver cd and a total re-install to cure the issue If so, I will keep my existing system until 11.0 hits the street. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Strange SATA problems with openSUSE
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 15:43 +0100, Clayton wrote: > I've posted a couple times about this with no replies yet > as anyone encountered this before? Could it be a hardware issue.. a > failing SATA controller on the motherboard, or is it some obscure > Linux thing? > > > C. I can't add any meaningful info, but a month or so ago there were several posts of issues with sata, including my case (an Asus A7V600 MB /w 2 sata drives). The initial sluggish performance and the resultant crash ate all the log messages and one drive. I have not had time to investigate or re-create the issue. I am rather certain that it happened after an online update, about 2 months after going from 10.2 to 10.3. I do believe there is a grimlin lurking here, and not a hardware issue. (My present config of 1 sata and 1 EIDE is fine). Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Change in 10.3/KDE file browser?
The KDE mediamanager is not running. system:///media/sr0 cannot be found. The above msg box pops when attempting to dis-mount any of the hot-plug media (cd, usb-stick, etc), when using fvwm as manager, and konqueror as the file browser. mtab says: /dev/sr0 /media/Nov\04015\0402006 iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8 0 0 I do have a full kde install, but most users here prefer fvwm, for speed. This worked fine in 10.2. In 10.3, I can obviously mount devices/media, but unless I am logged in on KDE3, they will not eject. >From CLI, only root is able to umount /media/Nov\04015\0402006 or /dev/sr0 even though it looks to be mounted by me (uid=1000) Again, if in KDE, it all works fine, and the kids can cycle cdroms or sticks without hassle...or calling me for help. I have searched for the kde "mediamanager", and haven't found it mentioned in the rpm queries or as a system run service...but it IS working IF I start a kde session. Weird? Any clue why this changed in 10.3, or am I missing something obvious here... Thanks! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 19:49 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Thursday 17 January 2008 19:29, Tom Patton wrote: > > > > You think my cat's going to do something nefarious? > Can you _really_ trust a cat??? ;-) Tom > > > Tom in NM > > > RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] BASH .bashrc su question
On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 21:12 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Wednesday 16 January 2008 20:19, David C. Rankin wrote: > > Listmates, > > > > Even better (this is what I do), open a separate tab (or two) in Konsole > in which you run a root shell and leave it run permanently. You just > switch to that tab and run commands that require root privileges. I use > a different Konsole "scheme" (color pattern) to give me a visual cue > about which kind of shell I'm interacting with. Konsole also shows a > distinctive tab icon for root shells. > > Randall Schulz that _may_ be safe enough for you behind a locked KDE screen, but please don't try that concept at an alternate (f3 etc) tty. Even if your f7 is in screen lock, a simple switch to f3 (if you had a root parked there) would be devastating to your day. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox & XP-pro & serial madness
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 12:16 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 19:14 +0200, Dave Plater wrote: > > Tom Patton wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 09:29 -0600, Stevens wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > I've found its better to leave the filters out of the initial setup and > > after starting xp, plug in usb device and then use the devices menu on > > the vbox window to enable the device. > Now that I have it working, I will try your method, and see if > "hot-plug" will work. It should, unless they have a bug in VB. Dave, it seems hot-plugging works fine. I have repeatedly swapped from the Belkin dongle to an ICOM radio USB programming cable, and each time they have worked well. I simply left both items active in the VB filter menu, and the XP guest was able to keep track of which one I had in the side port of my Thinkpad R40 laptop. XP would give the Belkin com3, and the ICOM cable com4...(without restarts of the guest...). I still think VB should pass through the dongle as ttyUSB0, and let SuSE handle it...but it works this way, so far. Pretty cool...I guess. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox & XP-pro & serial madness
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 19:14 +0200, Dave Plater wrote: > Tom Patton wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 09:29 -0600, Stevens wrote: > > > >> > > > I've found its better to leave the filters out of the initial setup and > after starting xp, plug in usb device and then use the devices menu on > the vbox window to enable the device. Another tip is to completely > uninstall the suse virtual box, including the kernel module, as yast > won't make you do so, before installing > VirtualBox-1.5.4_27034_openSUSE102-1.i586.rpm . It contains everything > it needs. It has a comprehensive help system too. > Dave Thanks, Dave, I should have expounded on removing the OSS version and driver first. I rmmod'd the driver, then rpm -e'd the virtualbox OSS rpm before I installed the 1.5.4 version. Thanks for reminding me. Now that I have it working, I will try your method, and see if "hot-plug" will work. It should, unless they have a bug in VB. I do think it is a bug for VB to not allow the serial access to ttyUSB0, but that is a subject for their forum, I guess. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [opensuse] VirtualBox & XP-pro & serial madness
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 09:29 -0600, Stevens wrote: > Tom: > > Read your post about VB, XP and serial port stuff. > > Do I understand you correctly that you have VB running > on a Linux host with XP guest AND it recognizes a usb device? > > If so, please give me some details on how to do that. I am > running opensuse 10.2, kernet 2.6.18. > > Thanks, > Fred > Fred, good morning, I'll have to think back thru all the attempts to figure out a step-by-step, it was a rather hacked way I went about it, since I had forgotten several admin things that always irked me with windoz! I imagine that your problem may be that the open-source release of VB does not include usb support _at all_. You need to get http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.5.4/VirtualBox-1.5.4_27034_openSUSE102-1.i586.rpm the binary install for 10.2. I'm using 10.3 32-bit version, but others in their forum are using 10.2, so good luck. Remove the Oss version (but don't delete the XP guest files). Install VB closed-source, attach the original virtual files, insert the usb device, and launch VB. Do NOT launch the guest yet... If you get there, you will see a USB item in the VB details tab. (I think you _have_ to insert the usb device B4 launching VB.) In the USB dialog, there is a filter section. The small icons at the right indicate known usb devices, add the one you wish to use (in my case it is the Belkin converter dongle). I would add JUST the device of interest, not all of them. Next, start the XP guest, and do all the crap XP needs to use the device. I DL'd the belkin driver, burned it to a cd, and ran the Belkin installer. XP installed the device as com4, and I can copy the GPS sentences out of my Garmin (with [ugh] Hyperterm). I have not verified if it will work with my radio application, but it looks very promising now. Hope that helps, Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] VirtualBox & XP-pro & serial madness
This is retrospective of what I think went wrong... Having given up on dos6.22, I was pleased with the install of xp guest, until I got to the serial needs. Try as I might, I could not get the open-source to talk to the "real" ttyS0 in "master", or the belkin converter as ttyUSB0 in my thinkpad... I have an extreme headache, having to reach back into foggy memory to deal with windoz, but that's another story. I finally realized that I had installed the XP-guest in master while NOT having the VB serial support turned "on", so XP didn't bother to install ANY com ports. When I manually installed them in the running guest, they became com3 and com4, and finally worked. Very nicely, BTW. Doing the same "fix" in the Thinkpad, did NOT work, as it appears VB can not deal with a virtual copy of ttyUSB0 and hand it off to the guest as a "com" port. In fact, most attempts at booting the guest with serial enabled would result in an aborted boot of XP. I then installed the "closed-source" VB (for the USB support), and after some more head scratching, and finding the Belkin driver for XP on the Internet, I can now see the USB-232 converter directly in XP as com4. (I must leave serial support turned off, and rely on the USB and XP Belkin driver.) WAHOO. I can now use an ancient program at work to align MDS Link radios. What a pain. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Connecting to serial port (to be console) of 2nd suse box
Sorry, Linda, sent this straight to you in error... Tom On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 19:16 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 17:22 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote: > > Peter Bloomfield suggested minicom (thanks) and Tom Patton wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 12:46 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote: > > >> I have 3 machines in this setup. The setup being: > > >> --- > > > ahh...screen or minicom I can probably find documentation > > on...but the lessons for lizard thing's got me stumped. :-) > > > Sorry, Linda, it is (I think) in the "books" section under documentation > on the 10.3 dvd. > > Here's an excerpt: > > Procedure > This How-To uses standard GNU/Linux commands, therefore it is not > specific to openSUSE. > Make sure you have screen installed, with: > rpm -q screen > If not, install it. Fortunately it is included on openSUSE CDs and > DVD. > The command are very simple: (you must be logged in as root) > # screen /dev/ttyS0 > or access any other COM port by changing the last digit (0...7). > To exit screen use: “ctrl+a”, then “ctrl+\”, “y”. > > This was written by; > How-To Access COM Port (RS-232 client/server) > Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There is also a section on the method to set up grub to ship the > start-up messages out the tty port. > > I used to do something similar, in that I had a headless old pc as a > modem "gateway" for the home network, and the only way to recover a boot > failure was via the reset button and a tty to see what was happening. > > One other thing, if the bios supports "Kiosk" mode, you don't need a > mouse or kboard, either. I think most modern pc's will roll over that > anyway, but they used to hang forever without a keyboard. > > Tom > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: VirtualBox & dos6.22 guest
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 07:49 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Tom Patton wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 19:43 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > > Afaik, older 16bit DOS based Operating Systems from this widely unknown > company always maxed out the CPU at idle. I experienced the same with > Win 9x both in real life and in vmware. > > Maybe DOS is suffering from the same desease? > > kind regards > Eberhard > I believe you are correct...and most the complaints on their forum were for win3.11 and win9x. XP seems very happy on my Thinkpad, I'll try the app today. Thanks, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox & dos6.22 guest
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 19:43 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > My athlon FX 2800 cpu goes to 99% immediately when the dos guest boots. > There are a ton of entries on their forum regarding high cpu usage with > several other guest systems, but no informative resolution at this > point. > > Is anyone here having luck with VB from the suse 10.3 dvd version > (1.5.2)? Several people over there have back-graded to v 1.4 to wait > out the problem. > > A program I use at work is rather unstable in dosemu, and was hoping > this would be more efficient... > > Tom in NM > > XP Pro seems to run just fine in vb, cpu load is holding at about 2.5% at idle, and responds to activity in a normal fashion. So this will probably get the job done nicely...I'll try it in my Thinkpad R40. FWIW, so far I like this vb much better than parallels...even tho I seldom need either one! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] VirtualBox & dos6.22 guest
My athlon FX 2800 cpu goes to 99% immediately when the dos guest boots. There are a ton of entries on their forum regarding high cpu usage with several other guest systems, but no informative resolution at this point. Is anyone here having luck with VB from the suse 10.3 dvd version (1.5.2)? Several people over there have back-graded to v 1.4 to wait out the problem. A program I use at work is rather unstable in dosemu, and was hoping this would be more efficient... Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Connecting to serial port (to be console) of 2nd suse box
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 12:46 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote: > 01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 > I have 3 machines in this setup. The setup being: > > - > Is there a preferred alternative? I vaguely remember using some > sort of 'call device' like 'cua0' in cu that corresponded to ttyS0 > with an invocation like: >cu -l /dev/cua0 Linda, load the "lessons for Lizards" documentation, and look at How-To Access COM Port (RS-232 client/server) This uses the "screen" command, and is really perfect for you to get a console over the serial port. Or minicom...or why not a network connection, and tie them together with a hub or switch? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] hat pin
So here's a non-technical question...anybody know of a source these days for the Tux pin SuSE shipped with the 6.3 or so version? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: insmod a TV card
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 21:20 +0100, Wolfgang Woehl wrote: > Samstag, 5. Januar 2008 Tom Patton: > > > I do not see this as a major issue, or one that fuels the MS war. > > People who cannot fiddle around in root shells will definitely get the > impression of a major issue going down when their supported and functional tv > card stops working after an online update. > > Is it really that hard to understand what advice like "Oh, just open a > terminal, become root, edit out some lines from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and > reload a kernel module" does to ordinary people? > > > I'm > > reasonably certain that the root cause will eventually be resolved, and > > THEY will remove the black-list sheriff ANYWAY. > > They will probably not because there are loads of devices that need to be > blacklisted, potentially. > > > Imagine the odds of even BEING ABLE TO WORK_AROUND in a MS system!!! > > Good luck with THAT chore, sir. I'm sure this WOULD have been a windoz > > show-stopper, with the only hope to wait 6 months for an update!!! Give > > me SuSE ANY DAY! > > 3 months and counting ... > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=330109 > > The ubiquitous notion of linux geeks that their distributions are superior to > any other commercial OS would gain some decent weight through serious > bug-squashing. Mindlessly repeating it over and over does not make it any > truer. It just makes us a laughing stock really. > > Wolfgang You missed my point, I think, in that a usable system is easily restored by slight manual intervention. And an even-better suggestion was already posted in the bug. However, I have now added a new comment to the bug, and perhaps that will bring it back into focus. >From what I see, I think this only occurred when choosing "unknown card", and I suspect the majority of tv cards have been working fine all along. Otherwise, there would have been much more traffic here in the forum. This particular thread is the only one I've noticed about the issue, and my comment today to the bug was only the 6th vote in its lifetime... As for black-listing, that certainly seems appropriate as a protective measure, and was documented. In this instance, it seems to be benign, but I can imagine other situations and devices which could cause serious problems. Whatever Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: insmod a TV card
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 18:10 +0100, Wolfgang Woehl wrote: > Samstag, 5. Januar 2008 jdd: > > Tom Patton a écrit : > >> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 18:59 +0100, jdd wrote: > jdd, Tom, pardon my french, but do you realize how braindead this is? Writing > a boot script to fix a confirmed and resolvable bug which is starting to grow > really old and smelly in the pipeline? > > Instead of doing the right thing and go bug and *help* the people that have > the ability and responsibility to fix the bugs they've introduced way too > many linux folks tend to happily spend hours of creating hapless and > embarrassing workarounds. > > I think that's the dark side of geek culture: For any given problem we rather > create 10 ridiculous kludges instead of come up with the one obvious solution > (fixing the original problem). > > The irony of this: Linux geeks are totally unaware of the FUD this creates > among non-geeks who want to get rid of windows because of microsoft's FUD. > > Wolfgang I agree with you to a point. I did not have a chance to look into why the bttv driver failed to load on reboot, and then I noticed the other report here with the same issue, and thence the black-list information. I had my own work-thru going, and it was VERY low priority at the time. (For one reason, this pc typically runs weeks at a time, unless there is a kernel update or a power outage.) Perhaps I miss-read the bug report, but it sounded as tho the pci system failed to identify some generic cards, and so they shot-gunned it with the black-listing to opt out of loading the driver mindlessly without user intervention. That seems very prudent to me. Over-ruling that decision by commenting out the black-list seems to work in MY situation, and I don't have to manually load the bttv driver. I do not see this as a major issue, or one that fuels the MS war.I'm reasonably certain that the root cause will eventually be resolved, and THEY will remove the black-list sheriff ANYWAY. Imagine the odds of even BEING ABLE TO WORK_AROUND in a MS system!!! Good luck with THAT chore, sir. I'm sure this WOULD have been a windoz show-stopper, with the only hope to wait 6 months for an update!!! Give me SuSE ANY DAY! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: insmod a TV card
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 10:37 +0100, jdd wrote: > Tom Patton a écrit : > > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 18:59 +0100, jdd wrote: > >> Wolfgang Woehl a écrit : > >>> Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2008 jdd: > >>> > >>>> did you try to remove the line yourself in the file or to load the > >>>> module manually after booting? > >>> > > it's possible to make a small script to do this automatically - may be > add it in boot.local. > > some years ago I had similar problem with the connection, I needed to > launch the conection a long time *after* boot was finished. I did > create a "boot.final" script lauched at the appreopriate time > (boot.local is executed very early in the process) > > jdd > > Well GOODIE! Commenting out the lines in the blacklist file WORKS. I just re-booted the system, and both 4-port video cards loaded (and in the proper order, BTW) fine. So not only did the bttv driver install properly...but 10.3 "persistent - naming" seems to work much better than 10.2 used to!!! I'm happy now. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sierra 850 Wireless Card
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 23:49 +0700, Matt T. wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Mark Weaver wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:45:12 + > > "Chris Rolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm using 10.3 Gnome. I have a Sierra 850 Wireless card, which is > > > recognised on install, but how do I intiate a 3G connection. All of > > > the docs on the web talk about using KPPP, but is there a Gnome > > > alternative, or will KPPP work under Gnome. > > > > > > > typically kppp is used for dialup. you may want to take a look at > > ndiswrapper. you'll need the windows drivers for this wireless adapter. > > > > IIRC that wireless is the Sierra 850 Wireless card is for a CDMA or EV-DO > wireless functionality, and then ndiswrapper is not the right thing, but > indeed kppp or more basic stuff. I used Sierra cards successfully with kppp > and with SuSE's good old kinternet. > > Kppp runs under Gnome? Sorry, dunno. > I, too, use Sierra modem, the usb AC-595U. It is supported in Kernel of 10.3, and I use Kinternet to control it. No ndiswrapper needed. Kinternet install should work in Gnome, as it would install any needed KDE libraries, AFAIK. I'm using FVWM, and do not have a complete KDE desktop environment installed. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: insmod a TV card
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 18:59 +0100, jdd wrote: > Wolfgang Woehl a écrit : > > Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2008 jdd: > > > >> did you try to remove the line yourself in the file or to load the > >> module manually after booting? > > > > jdd, did you actually read my message? > > I see: > > I simply open a root console, and "modprobe bttv". Both cards then > return to service...without having to go into YAST for anything. > > so this don't seems to be a stopper. if this IS a workaround it should > be fine to note it in bugzilla, but I have no tv card to test it > That was me with the modprobe bttv comment...then someone else pointed out the blacklist issue. I have removed the lines, but have not had to reboot yet to see if that fixed it. I agree, it is easily dealt with as is...at least for me. I guess it would be a problem if I am not home and the power fails...the wife would not have root access to restore the camera system. I'll reboot tomorrow morning and advise if it then auto-loads bttv. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] insmod a TV card
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 12:18 -0200, Gabriel . wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008 12:07 PM, Constant Brouerius van Nidek > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My TV card, a Bt878 from Prolink looses its settings when I have to reboot > > (blackout etc.). After the boot I have no TV reception and just have to > > visit > > Yast /hardware and repeat the install. After that the card works as > > expected. > > I assume that there must be a commandline solution for my problem. > > Could somebody help me out? > > If you are on 10.3. There is a know issue with the blacklist file. See > bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=330109 > > Just remove those lines from the blacklist. > > -- > Kind Regards Well...Thanks, Gabriel! I hadn't had time to track it down, but that seems to be the issue here as well. Good job! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] insmod a TV card
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 21:07 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote: > My TV card, a Bt878 from Prolink looses its settings when I have to reboot > (blackout etc.). After the boot I have no TV reception and just have to visit > Yast /hardware and repeat the install. After that the card works as expected. > I assume that there must be a commandline solution for my problem. > Could somebody help me out? I have not tracked down the reason or cure, but I, too, loose my two 4-port video cards after a re-boot. The problem is that the bttv module does not load. I simply open a root console, and "modprobe bttv". Both cards then return to service...without having to go into YAST for anything. (This problem did not show up until an online update a few weeks ago...my original install of 10.3 was fine in this regard. HTH, Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MySQL GUI frontends
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 08:27 -0600, Sunny wrote: > On Dec 24, 2007 3:26 PM, Tom Patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Check out Mysql Workbench (http://dev.mysql.com/workbench/). It's still > > > in beta but it's a good beta. (Disclaimer: I'm not a dba either.) > > > > > > Don Henson > > > > > I'd like to check it out...but their site only has a windoz version, no > > LINUX until 2008... > > > > Tom in NM > > > > Check for package mysql-gui-tools on download.opensuse.org. > > It contains mysql-admin, mysql-query-browser, and ... mysql-workbenck > > Cheers > > > -- > Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Thanks, Sunny, I had overlooked the workbench when installing from the dvd's, I thought it was the "benchmark"...it is a separate rpm "mysql-workbench" on the dvd. It installed 1.1.10alpha, and indeed looks very promising. I'll look some more for the beta version. Merry Christmas...or whatever is appropriate for you. Thanks! Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MySQL GUI frontends
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 03:21 -0700, Donald D Henson wrote: > Bob wrote: > > I've played around with MySQL on the command line, creating an addressbook > > database and importing some data. I'd like to use a GUI frontend to > > add/edit > > the data, but I'm not sure what's available in linux. Any suggestions? > > > > Happy Christmas :) > > Check out Mysql Workbench (http://dev.mysql.com/workbench/). It's still > in beta but it's a good beta. (Disclaimer: I'm not a dba either.) > > Don Henson > I'd like to check it out...but their site only has a windoz version, no LINUX until 2008... Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Heavy-Duty Virtualization Question
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 20:38 -0800, Joe Sloan wrote: > Tom Patton wrote: > > It's been a year or two back, but Parallels was very stable for me. I > > see they've won several awards this year, perhaps it should be on your > > candidate list...? > > Just a war story, feel free to disregard - > > I checked out parallels, which I noticed was at version 3.0 for mac, and > only at version 2.2 for linux. It installed OK, but it made my otherwise > solid suse 10.3 machine quite unstable. It could not get through an > install of a guest OS - I tried xp and suse 9.3 more than once. Each > time the result was a system hang. I can only surmise that the kernel > modules inserted by parallels were bad mojo, so I gave up on parallels. > > I next tried vmware workstation, which in contrast was rock solid. I > played quake, listened to music and browsed the web as expee was > installing, and expee appeared to run perfectly after the install. > > Just some data points for your consideration. > > Joe Good to know, Joe. I was using it for XP on top of 9.3...but haven't needed it since back then. I was wondering why there was no chatter about it recently on the list...perhaps experiences such as yours is why... BTW, after I wrote my post, I called another guy at work (a machead), and he said he moved from Parallels to VMware on his mac about 6 months ago... I also recall now that it would set the taint flag on the kernel, and made upgrades difficult. Such is life, I guess. Forget I mentioned it ;-) Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Heavy-Duty Virtualization Question
It's been a year or two back, but Parallels was very stable for me. I see they've won several awards this year, perhaps it should be on your candidate list...? Tom in NM On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 21:10 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote: > On Dec 19, 2007 5:25 PM, Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi ! > > > > > > I have a tough choice. Client have an Intel-based Quad-Core PC with SuSE > > 10.3, > > and time to time (~1 - 1.5 hours day) needs Win XP with Adobe Photoshop, > > InDesign, Dreamveawer and some weird video editing programs. He does not > > want > > to reboot he;s workstation in "clean" WinXP-only mode. > > > > The obvious cantenders for virtualization are: VMware, VirtualBox and Xen > > (KVM/QEMU does not suitable because it lacks guest OS video acceleration). > > > > The question is - which of these virtualization solutions will offer best > > performance, especially in terms of graphic/video screen redraw, sound > > latency, and 3D graphic ? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). > > As to VMware: > The free version, VMware Server, is NOT optimized for desktop use. It > works, but not the way you're describing. You would need to consider > VMware Workstation and I don't have any experience with that. > > Greg > -- > Greg Freemyer > Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist > http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer > First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - > http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf > > The Norcross Group > The Intersection of Evidence & Technology > http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] My desktop has become "lazy" lately
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 15:19 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dificult to say, yes. > > - -- > Cheers, > Carlos E. R. I know...coincidence or the twilight zone...after 52 hours, all is well here, on one EIDE and one SADA drive. Only thing NOT the same, is that I did NOT install either KDE or GNOME desktop environs this time...and no BEAGLE. Other than that, all upgrades are at the same level, and all apps are installed, but using strictly FVWM. If it continues a couple weeks, I might install KDE again. But by then, my wife probably won't miss it...;-) Good luck on your gremlin, Carlos! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] My desktop has become "lazy" lately
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 02:17 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > The Sunday 2007-12-16 at 16:28 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote: > > > However, I think I had instances of these freezing episodes weeks ago, > before I set the 'tsc' clock, so... > > I have no idea. > > > Another symptom: > > Twice, completely randomly, the system froze. The last time was several > days ago. The keyboard stopped responding, the mouse, the display... I > thought of powering another machine and entering through ssh; but the > moment the other machine had finished booting up, my main machine > continued working as if nothing had happened. > > This has happened twice, and it is very weird. The only thing I know for > sure is that it is a software issue of suse 10.3: they started the day > after I upgraded. This thread is sounding suspiciously similar to my drive failure Thursday, following a YOU last weekend. See my thread "ata2 suddenly bad". I mean the randomly "sluggish" aka "lock-up" syndrome. I have since installed an EIDE drive with fresh install of "boxed 10.3", reloaded all my original apps, and have done a new YOU (with the same kernel version as last week). So far...28 hrs and counting...all is fabulous. I can't add anything else, except that there have been several weird threads this week about similar "stall" symptoms...one re oocalc, mine, yours, and a couple others. I had thought mine was due to Beagle, or perhaps because it was an "upgrade" from 10.2. Then I lost both /sda8 and /sdb2...something is amiss somewhere. Or not...I might have had a failing SATA drive...I am currently not using any of /sdb partitions. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ata2.0 post-mortem
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 06:33 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 00:41 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > > It has been a week since updating anything here, my main pc "master" has Well, this is almost too weird to be a hardware issue, but anything is possible... Sometime after the online update last weekend, I developed problems in BOTH sata drives.../tmp on sda8 and /usr/lib on sdb2. Reiser reported bad blocks in those two partitions. After two tries, reiser relocated the bad block in /tmp, but unfortunately was not able to correct the one in /usr/lib, saying it was in "the reiser system section". I now have a virgin 10.3 on an ide drive, and am able to mount all the other partitions, including two raid arrays. I have not lost any data, but can not restore the original (updated) system without having the /usr/lib files available. So I'm up a creek looking at re-installs of everything. My question for the group here...well, actually two. First, isn't it strange to see problems on two (a Maxtor and a Seagate) drives at the same time? I'm leery of the update somehow! Second question...my laptop contains almost an identical load of programs, and the thought crossed my mind to try and copy its /usr/lib into master as a quick fix. However, it is an intel chip, and master is an Athlon...so I'm guessing there would be too many differences in the compiled libraries for that to work. Agreed? I guess I just have to bite the bullet here, I know. It's been a long night... :-( If anyone is interested, although I can't boot the original system, I do have access to all the (media)/var/logs. Thanks for any sane input here...;-) Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ata2.0 suddenly bad on 10.3?
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 00:41 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > It has been a week since updating anything here, my main pc "master" has > been flawless all week. Tonight, I logged-off the better half (from > KDE), and it took over 15 minutes to get through my logon and into FVWM. > A reboot took a whopping 25 minutes. I removed Beagle completely, and > got it to reboot in 10 minutes... > > Well...cr#p, why didn't I think to boot off the dvd...I guess I should > try that now...eh? It is looking as tho one of the SATAs has a terminal problem. I was unable to repair a few bad blocks, and have installed a new 10.3 on an EIDE (ok, PATA) drive. If I'm lucky, I'll be able to mount the /home, /data, and /local partitions and retrieve their data. I also looked further into the boot messages, and this DID begin showing ata errors on the 9th, which was the day of my last online update. The computer has not been re-booted since that day, and my wife had complained yesterday about firefox being problematic. I had noticed OO getting sluggish, myself. I sure hope this isn't related to the other thread regarding OO hanging up on several people. (these two SATA drives are 2-yrs old, in a home system.) Bummer... Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ata2.0 suddenly bad on 10.3?
It has been a week since updating anything here, my main pc "master" has been flawless all week. Tonight, I logged-off the better half (from KDE), and it took over 15 minutes to get through my logon and into FVWM. A reboot took a whopping 25 minutes. I removed Beagle completely, and got it to reboot in 10 minutes... Well...cr#p, why didn't I think to boot off the dvd...I guess I should try that now...eh? After many painful hours of slooow scrolling through message logs, the only thing that stands out (and is not showing before this evening) are tons of warn log entries of ata attempting dma133, scaling back all the way to dma33 and stalling out. Dec 13 22:43:19 master kernel: ata2.00: limiting speed to UDMA/33:PIO4 Dec 13 22:43:19 master kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Dec 13 22:43:19 master kernel: ata2.00: cmd c8/00:20:e1:92:23/00:00:00:00:00/e2 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 16384 in Dec 13 22:43:19 master kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 13 22:44:20 master kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Dec 13 22:44:20 master kernel: ata2.00: cmd c8/00:10:69:d0:ee/00:00:00:00:00/e1 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 8192 in Dec 13 22:44:20 master kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 13 22:44:25 master kernel: ata2: port is slow to respond, please be patient (Status 0xd0) Dec 13 23:53:15 master kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Dec 13 23:53:15 master kernel: ata2.00: cmd c8/00:18:49:6a:0a/00:00:00:00:00/e2 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 12288 in Dec 13 23:53:15 master kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 14 00:03:05 master kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Dec 14 00:03:05 master kernel: ata2.00: cmd c8/00:78:e1:e3:27/00:00:00:00:00/e2 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 61440 in Dec 14 00:03:05 master kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) I have searched my archive of this forum (painful as it was with slow hard drives), and found nothing similar, however I found (googled) a similar discussion back in July on the Ubuntu forum with some kernel developers discussing a very similar situation... And there were some discussions here of various problems with the SATA/PATA driver. I have two SATA drives on an Asus A7V600 MB, Athlon +2800 cpu running: Linux master 2.6.22.13-0.3-default #1 SMP 2007/11/19 15:02:58 UTC i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux I'll try the dvd boot now...in the meantime, any thoughts from you guys? Thanks, Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?
On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 15:57 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote: > On Dec 9, 2007 3:28 PM, Volker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2007 20:07:46 schrieb Greg Freemyer: > > > I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI > > > (KDE) via oocalc and a simple "file - save as" command. > > > > > > If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated > > > process, everything is working again. > > > > > > Very strange. Do other people have this problem? > > > > > > I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service. > > > > Oddly enough, now I am seeing a problem that might be related... I don't use KDE much, but my wife does, and when she logs on, the system seems to "hang" for several (5-7) minutes after saving a web page in Firefox, or a spreadsheet in OO. So much so that if she logs off her session, it appears the X-server has died. (no NumLoc key, etc.). I ssh'd in and Beagle was eating my entire CPU... Three times now, by the time I walked back into this room, KDM had finally returned to allow me to log on. I then checked, and Beagle was idle... So I retract my earlier post that OO was working fine for me...I wasn't using it in KDE. I wonder if Beagle is getting a "lock" on the scheduler? More checking here required! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OOCALC Locks GUI on save as?
I upgraded yesterday from normal suse channels, (says build 2.3.0.1.3), and just tried a "save as" to an .ods file with no problem. Linux master 2.6.22.13-0.3-default #1 SMP 2007/11/19 15:02:58 UTC i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux using FVWM as desktop. Tom in NM On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 14:07 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote: > I find this hard to believe, but I'm able to repeatably lock my GUI > (KDE) via oocalc and a simple "file - save as" command. > > If I cntrl-alt-F2 and use that console to kill oocalc associated > process, everything is working again. > > Very strange. Do other people have this problem? > > I'm running OO 2.3.0 build 2.3.0.1.3 from the Open Office Build Service. > > Greg > -- > Greg Freemyer > Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist > http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer > First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - > http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf > > The Norcross Group > The Intersection of Evidence & Technology > http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How to create banners in Linux?
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 11:58 +0100, Jordi Massaguer i Pla wrote: > You can use GIMP. It is not well documented and took me a while until I > found it. The easy path is: > > 1- Use layers as if each layer was a frame of your animation. > 2- Save it as gif. It will asked you whether to save it as an animation or > as indexed. Save it as animation :) > 3- You'll be asked for some parameters such as the time between frames. > Choose the right ones for you. > 4- If you want an image to stay more than the others (the first image for > example), just duplicat the layer. Glad you chimed in, I was going to say I've used Gimp for years doing animations in .gif ... has always worked well for me. Good info, sir! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sue 10.3, happy but xawtv ......
On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 19:02 +0700, Constant Brouerius van nidek wrote: > Has the combination NVidia and Compiz anything to do with the failing of > xawtv? kdetv and tvtime both use every part of my CPU and block any other > work on this computer. > Are there other small footprint TV programs? With Motv I get the same > response > as with xawtv. Just a stab in the dark, but I would un-install all the tv viewer apps, and your TV card. Log off KDE, and sign on again to a FVWM desktop session. Then re-install the card, and when Yast checks for TV applications, ONLY install MOTV. This should keep KDE/Compis from grabbing your frame buffer, perhaps. If your TV then works, you can figure out why KDE is getting in the way... I suspect, since you have low resources (speed and memory?) that KDE/Compiz is too much overhead, and you might like FVWM better in the long run. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center
On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 19:04 -0600, Bryen wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 17:59 -0600, Billie Walsh wrote: > > Kevin Dupuy wrote: > > > On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:51 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > > > > Again, how is this self-explanatory? That's the point some of us are > trying to make. There should be at least a brief explanation to the > purpose of a module's services. > I'm with Billy on this thought train. YAST has been the flagship of distros since 6.1, the concept is solid as a rock. Its bullet proof, ---not idiot proof---, and should stay that way. The printed start-up guide is where explaining stuff belongs, not in the control center. In any industry, you go into the control center for two reasons: 1) you are on a guided-tour; or 2) you are ready to go to work and control something. If 2), then you better know something about what you are fixin' to do! I would not mess with the basic functionality...perhaps provide a side-bar type "lookup" dictionary if needed? It's easy enough to run the existing "help" systems in a separate window...isn't it? So why bother... Tom in NM > -- > ---Bryen--- > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 19:00 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote: > On Nov 23, 2007 6:49 PM, Tom Patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 19:33 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > > > Philippe Landau escribió: > > > > > The defective update has been retired at least one week ago. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Is this thread related to what sneaked up on me today? No yast software > > items are working, and get the following seg fault notice: > > > > YaST got signal 11 at YCP > > file /usr/share/YaST2/clients/sw_single.ycp:187 > > /sbin/yast2: line 386: 4705 Segmentation fault $ybindir/y2base > > $module "$@" "$SELECTED_GUI" $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS > > > > > > I found no files being used by zypper, but I can not add or update > > anything at the moment...??? > > > > Tom in NM > > I think so. Try: > > === > As root: > rpm -e boost-1.33.1-108.2 > > and from the suse/i586 directory of the DVD > rpm -ivh boost-1.33.1-108.i586.rpm > rpm -ivh libzypp-3.26.2-2.i586.rpm > rpm -ivh zypper-0.8.23-7.i586.rpm > === > > Then re-run YOU to get a new set of updates. > > Greg > -- Hum, guess not. This unit hasn't done that recent an update...installed it last weekend, and it looks like the update at that time didn't take, here's my files currently installed. (It was my laptop that I updated Tuesday...) Linux master 2.6.22.5-31-default #1 SMP 2007/09/21 22:29:00 UTC i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux master:/home/thpnalb # rpm -q boost boost-1.33.1-108 master:/home/thpnalb # rpm -q libzypp libzypp-3.26.2-2 master:/home/thpnalb # rpm -q zypper zypper-0.8.23-7 So I guess I have to look further at this seg fault... but your idea has merit, I might re-install the yast / zypper groups just for grins... Thanks, Greg, I appreciate it! Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 19:33 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > Philippe Landau escribió: > The defective update has been retired at least one week ago. > > > -- Is this thread related to what sneaked up on me today? No yast software items are working, and get the following seg fault notice: YaST got signal 11 at YCP file /usr/share/YaST2/clients/sw_single.ycp:187 /sbin/yast2: line 386: 4705 Segmentation fault $ybindir/y2base $module "$@" "$SELECTED_GUI" $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS I found no files being used by zypper, but I can not add or update anything at the moment...??? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] EV-DO USB modem (Sprint)
On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 20:58 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 11:50 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > Update to the Sprint AirCard... > > As Greg KH promised...it functions (so far) flawlessly on 10.3!!! > > After installing a basic 10.3 in my Thinkpad R40, the card was detected > when I plugged it in. Yast did not detect it as a modem, however when > adding ttyUSB0 as a modem with the Sprint #777 number, it all worked > (using KInternet as the controlling program). minor update...when doing the update (instead of new install) on my main pc "master", I first inserted the aircard. Then YAST did identify modem0 and the a/card modem1. The update went flawlessly, thanks to seeing the thread about modifying partition "/var" to mount by identifier instead of /dev/sda3. Huge thanks to that thread, couldn't have popped up at a more opportune moment!!! Thanks all, Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] KUDO's to Novell & Digital River
After all the problems on the last two orders (10.1 & 10.2 pre-Orders) with the long delays, I am thrilled to report that they now have their stuff together. I ordered 10.3 early Wed morning, and it arrived in the mail Saturday. VERY GOOD, Novell! Thanks, Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] EV-DO USB modem (Sprint)
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 11:50 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: Update to the Sprint AirCard... As Greg KH promised...it functions (so far) flawlessly on 10.3!!! After installing a basic 10.3 in my Thinkpad R40, the card was detected when I plugged it in. Yast did not detect it as a modem, however when adding ttyUSB0 as a modem with the Sprint #777 number, it all worked (using KInternet as the controlling program). Now to wait for Sprint to upgrade this tower to EV-DO! As it is now, I get a solid 21KB/s, which sure beats the 3.1KB/s dialup here. Waho! > Tom in NM > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] EV-DO USB modem (Sprint) WAHOO update!
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 11:50 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > > > I am considering the Sierra (USB) Air Card 595U as it has an external > antenna connection. (I am 7 miles from a tower, and beyond DSL or > cable) > Well, Folks! I am pleased to report that the Sprint/Sierra AC595U is working beautifully on opensuse 10.2, following a very simple modprobe restart to the serial driver. I am in the sticks, and getting a rather solid 22kB/s, with no external antenna...that will improve, I'm sure. Sprint tells me they are scheduled to upgrade this location to EV-DO next May. As it is, it sure beats the dial-up rate I had of 3.6 kB! I can't wait to try it in Albuquerque in the morning... Greg KH, you are the man of the hour, Sir! Tom in NM ps...this is on a ThinkPad R40 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] EV-DO USB modem (Sprint)
Thank you, Greg. I'm top-posting to catch every ones attention here. That is the reason I have stuck so firmly to SuSE all these years, and religiously follow these threads. I asked a straight question, and you gave me exactly what I hoped would be the answer. Thank you for taking your time to answer, Sir! I will perhaps have to upgrade from 10.2 --> 10.3 for the latest drivers you mention, but it will certainly be worth it...living with the last several releases on dial-up has been a pain (albeit a worth-while pain...). So again, Greg, Thank YOU, and I'll let you get back to work now. Tom in New Mexico (off to the Sprint store) On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:58 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 11:50:35AM -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > > Since Sprint has published a set-up guide for LINUX, I'm considering > > rewarding their simple acknowledgment of us by giving it a shot...gotta > > be better than dial-up! > > > > In the guide, they state that the maximum connection speed "is limited > > by the current generic usbserial driver to approximately less than > > 500kbps.". > > It is true that the "generic" usbserial driver is a slow thing, but that > is by design. It was not made to run "real" devices like these kinds of > cards at all, and I (as the author of such code) would never recommend > that anyone do that. > > Instead, use the "sierra" and "option" drivers instead, which are > specifically written for these devices and work very well. > > So don't follow Sprint's instructions about the kernel stuff at all, > just plug your device in and the correct driver will be bound > automaticlly to the device with no needed help from you at all. This > should work just fine with the 10.3 release. > > But you will have to do the ppp configuration on your own, I don't think > that NetworkManager can handle this automatically just yet, but I do > know those developers are activly working on it. > > > Can anyone here report on their success with these cards, and if the > > above limitation is accurate? > > I've tested lots of these different cards out and had great success with > them. > > > I am considering the Sierra (USB) Air Card 595U as it has an external > > antenna connection. (I am 7 miles from a tower, and beyond DSL or > > cable) > > I'd recommend anything from Sierra Wireless right now. They have been > actively working with the Linux kernel community to support their > devices on Linux. Because of this, their devices are supported the > best, they seem to run the fastest, and if we have problems with them, > we have good contacts to solve the issues. > > Other wireless vendors have noticed this and are trying to work to catch > up (option and others), and do have their devices working on Linux, but > not necessarily at the same performance or support level yet. > > If you have any problems with these devices, please let me know. > > thanks, > > greg k-h > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] EV-DO USB modem (Sprint)
Since Sprint has published a set-up guide for LINUX, I'm considering rewarding their simple acknowledgment of us by giving it a shot...gotta be better than dial-up! In the guide, they state that the maximum connection speed "is limited by the current generic usbserial driver to approximately less than 500kbps.". Can anyone here report on their success with these cards, and if the above limitation is accurate? I am considering the Sierra (USB) Air Card 595U as it has an external antenna connection. (I am 7 miles from a tower, and beyond DSL or cable) Thanks very much, Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] audacity startup problem
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 20:10 +0100, Istvan Gabor wrote: > Thanks. > I followed your advice, deleted audacity package. Then I > removed the '.audacity-data' folder from my home dir. > Reinstalled audacity again. > Nothing has changed. Audacity asks which language to use > then nothing happens. > It is obviously wrong configuration but how can I trace what is > wrong? > > IG You said it would run as another user, but not as yourself. Any chance you are not in group "audio"? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] setting serial port alias for DOSEMU on suse 10.2
top-posting to myself, I think I found the answer in the run-time config file for dosemu...duh. Tom On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 10:01 -0600, Tom Patton wrote: > I have a USB serial programming cable for setting up an ICOM radio, and > the program is dos. DOSEMU seems to run the program fine. I am > searching for how best to alias the cable as (dos) COM1 or COM2. > > I'm sure I'm overlooking something simple, but all I google seems to be > old info from the early days, involving kernel re-compiles... > > A point in the right direction would be appreciated...TIA! > > Tom in NM > > > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] setting serial port alias for DOSEMU on suse 10.2
I have a USB serial programming cable for setting up an ICOM radio, and the program is dos. DOSEMU seems to run the program fine. I am searching for how best to alias the cable as (dos) COM1 or COM2. I'm sure I'm overlooking something simple, but all I google seems to be old info from the early days, involving kernel re-compiles... A point in the right direction would be appreciated...TIA! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] subnet mask for 192.168.1.2
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 07:17 -0400, James Knott wrote: > Tom Patton wrote: > > I'm confused, then...fortunately I'm not also a network guru, so I have > > an excuse of sorts...;-) > > > > 254 would set the LSB of the byte to 0, wouldn't that allow checking > > of .0.x and .1.x ranges of address...? Wouldn't the mask for .2.x > > and .3.x be 255.255.253.0? > > > > Tom in NM > > > > > > > No, it wouldn't set that bit to 0. It moves that bit to the host side > of the address. It becomes clearer if you use the other notation, which > says how many bits are part of the network address. So, 255.255.254 = > /23 or 23 network bits and 9 host bits. Looking at the host side, the > address range runs from 0.0 to 1.255, with 0.0 being the network address > and 1.255, the broadcast. Add the host address to the network address > of 192.168.2+x.x to get the complete address range of 192.168.2.0 to > 192.168.3.255 Thanks, James. I think I wasn't confused, I was looking at it from the host side, and didn't catch in your first post that you had already added the network address...we were both seeing a total hosts of 0x01ff machines. I mistakenly took your first post to allow 0x03ff machines. I then further goofed by suggesting 0x03ff hosts as a mask of 255.255.253.0, when I meant 255.255.252.0. And I see I'm open to another comment, since I included the network and broadcast entities as machines...but you know what I meant. I guess I'm happier following the electrons through the gates than the packets through the switches...;-) Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] subnet mask for 192.168.1.2
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 18:43 -0400, James Knott wrote: > Ben Kevan wrote: > > > > If you would incorporate another "Subnet" (ie. 192.168.2.X), you would have > > a > > subnet of 255.255.254.0. There is alot more to this, and that is really > > just > > a basic basic thing I showed. Your subnet mask would vary depending on > > network needs. > > > > > > Not quite. You could also use 255.255.255.0 with 192.168.2.x. If your > mask were 255.255.254.0, then the address range in your example would be > 192.168.2.x and 192.168.3.x. The sub net mask is used only to determine > which portion of the address is used for the network and which for the > host address. I'm confused, then...fortunately I'm not also a network guru, so I have an excuse of sorts...;-) 254 would set the LSB of the byte to 0, wouldn't that allow checking of .0.x and .1.x ranges of address...? Wouldn't the mask for .2.x and .3.x be 255.255.253.0? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Best Disk Layout
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 16:30 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Wednesday 2007-09-19 at 07:22 -0600, Tom Patton wrote: > > > In addition to the other layouts mentioned, I always have /usr on one > > drive, and /usr/lib on a second. Programs LOAD measurably faster, > > sourced from two physical drive units. > > Sometimes I moved /usr, sometimes I moved /opt. Nowdays /opt is becoming > less important. > > Which one do you put in the same drive as /, the /usr or the /usr/lib > partition? I'm curious. My /usr/lib and / are on the same drive currently. sda contains /boot, /opt, /srv, /tmp, /var, swap, and /home plus two partitions used in raid arrays sdb contains /, /local, and /usr/lib, plus two partitions for the raid arrays. I am using one raid for /usr and the other for /data1, which contains mostly topo maps and terrain data files, mysql database sets, and the working directory for Cinelerra renders. Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Best Disk Layout
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 22:42 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 20:15, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > You can simply leave space unpartitioned and decide later. > But... > Having multiple partitions is more work to plan sizes, maintain the system, > add them to new installed system specially if it is different distribution. > One can experience strange problems if one program attempts to use same name > cache or database in /var that is common for few of them. The command rpm > comes as an example. > *** > > So, I would use openSUSE default. It seems good for desktop use. > At least all installation scripts know about it and installing and removing > packages will not involve manual work. > I disagree with that, even in multi-boot systems, several *nix would maintain their own knowledge of their unique partitions, based on their own copy of fstab. You would have to purposefully force one distro to mount say a common /tmp PARTITION to get any corruption or "cross-talk" problems. In addition to the other layouts mentioned, I always have /usr on one drive, and /usr/lib on a second. Programs LOAD measurably faster, sourced from two physical drive units. But I never "cross-link" any partitions between my 9.3 and 10.2 versions...other than "local" storage partitions /local, /graphic, /data, and /kids that contain "work" files. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Swith between souncards ?
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 13:29 +0100, michael norman wrote: > Hi > > I have a box, used mainly for multimedia, which has two sound cards : the on > board chip and an external Soundbaster USB. I can configure both have have > not found an easy way of either swithing between the two or assigning > individual apps to automatically use a particular card.. The box is openSUSE > 10.2 with the latest KDE from SUSE. As I pretty much always use KDE a KDE > configuration would be the easiest but if I have to I'll have a look in ALSA > configuration. > > Any clues as to where to start gratefully received. > > Mike Have you considered an external patch bay? I use the onboard chip plus two PCI sound cards in mine. Apps like Cinelerra or Audacity have choices for input and output dsp devices (hw0,0 hw1,0 etc). I use FVWM as a desktop, and with QAmix, there is a tab for each sound card. In the patch bay, I have the first device "normalled" into the second's line-in, and it drives a monitor speaker system. The Aux and CD input jacks are also routed by the patch bay, so I have tons of "old-school" flexibility. Check with your local TV stations...they could have stacks of patch bays they have been replacing recently as they upgrade to digital. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] No openSUSE 10.4
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 08:32 +0200, jdd wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > > Maybe this time we can get rid of the point release silliness like Fedora > > did. Call it 11. Call the next 12, and the next 13 > > true. the .x should be reserved to minor fixes (like the second dvd > set recently) > > jdd > -- In my case, I like the numbering scheme. It has seemed that the x.3 since 6.x has always been the most stable and functional release. I always swear I will wait for the next x.3. But then the next X.0 hits the street and I rush out to buy it. Then I swear again ... Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] when? -> Oct. 4
Well, if you ask me...the boxed set is the ONLY way to go. Besides feeling somewhat contributive to the company, I'm (ugh) still on dial-up here... As for the stickers, I think it is time they have a commemorative issue, and include a Novell version of the SuSE hat pin! And thanks for asking... Tom in NM On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 17:49 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote: > Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 16:05 schrieb Kai Ponte: > > On Sunday 19 August 2007 06:56, Michael Skiba wrote: > > > Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 15:27 schrieb Glenn Holmer: > > > > On Saturday 18 August 2007 20:32, Carlos F Lange wrote: > > > > > When it is released, go to : > > > > > http://www.opensuse.org/ > > > > > and in the "Get it" page you will find also a link to "buy openSUSE" > > > > > online. I like to have a printed manual around in my lab for the > > > > > students, and I hope they add one or two stickers again in the box. > >> > > > A I also like a printed manual(better quality than if I'd print it), and > > > yup I'm looking forward for stickers too! They're just an eyecatcher on > > > the PC/notebook :) > > > > They're gonna have stickers again? > I _don't_ know if they've stickers in it again! > I just hope they've, would be cool - but as I said, I don't know it! > > > Greetings > Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Seeking Simple Image Editing Tool for Web Development
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 09:58 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form > that include transparency. I've been driven crazy by GIMP, Krita and > the other programs that appear in KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu > on my SuSE 10.0 installation. Randall, I can't imagine all the tools in Gimp not being able to accomplish your task quite easily. Granted, it may not be the easiest application to dive into, especially if you lack pre-requisite of graphics experience. For example, a color gradient fill, then clothify, then cut a transparency hole makes a cool frame for web images, and should be save-able directly as HTML if need be. I'd try presenting your question on the Gimp forum and get some assistance that way. You would probably spend as much time learning anything else anyway. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] parallels vs VMware...?
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 22:13 -0600, Tom Patton wrote: > Following the Autocad thread, and wondering what you pros think of > parallels. > > I was using it quite successfully in 9.3 to host WinXP, but haven't > installed it yet in 10.2. (That was just to get some Corp work in Visio > here at home...) > > Are there any great advantages in VMware? > > Tom in NM Well, it is telling that there have been no comments in favor of parallels...speaks well of VM! Since I have a license for parallels already, I think I'll update and install it in one of the less-critical boxes here anyway. I was just curious of the consensus view. Thanks! Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vote for the 10.3's slogan
On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 13:30 +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote: > > Carlos E. R. wrote: > > The Saturday 2007-04-21 at 12:02 +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote: > > > >> I miss the option "I don't like any of those slogans" - I think it > >> would have a good chance to win... > > > > Because it was largely discussed in the opensuse-project mail list. The > > proposals were made there. > > I know, and I have contributed my opinion there. But this has nothing > to do with this vote - there should have been a way to express dislike > as well. If 30 people voted for slogan XYZ but 50 people voted against > the slogans, do you think it would be reasonable to choose slogan XYZ > as winner? I don't think so. And now you know the flaw in Drive-By Media's distorted poll methods. The general public will vote yes, even if they don't agree 100% with the precise context of the question. Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] parallels vs VMware...?
Following the Autocad thread, and wondering what you pros think of parallels. I was using it quite successfully in 9.3 to host WinXP, but haven't installed it yet in 10.2. (That was just to get some Corp work in Visio here at home...) Are there any great advantages in VMware? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 07:14 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > And I don't understand how this became about submitting patches to the > kernel? It began as someone's diatribe against Evolution because of > what they thought they saw in their Bugzilla and my pointing out this > was bogus; Evolution is an application, not a kernel module. > Personally, I want the standards for kernel code to be brutal - it is > the base of the pillar. Even so, the number of contributors to the > kernel manages to be pretty high. > I agree with your hope that the kernel remains in effect behind a critical block wall, patched with extreme caution... And this began with me thanking the Evolution guys for the password fix. It was hijacked from that thought onward... But I'll say again, Thanks! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 08:14 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 14 April 2007 03:54, Registration Account wrote: > > BTW, I'm not using Evolution, but 2 other posts in this thread that say they > are satisfied with, made me wonder how can happen that Evolution has many > open bugs, but still works good. I can't speak to that directly, I haven't checked the bugzilla, Evolution has been very workable for me since it came out, I rely heavily on the calendar and task list. Since I typically use FVWM as my desktop, I am now well practiced at my password! And with the snow here yesterday, the last update was like a late Christmas present!!! The only other recent "feature removal" that I've noticed...is the "invert selection". It was nice to select the few important emails (ctrl-click), then invert (ctrl-I) and delete (ctrl-D) all the remaining junk. That was dropped somewhere between 9.3 and 10.2, I guess. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!
Just did my weekly update...Evolution patch to restore the password database works fine! I'm surprised I haven't seen any chatter about it on the list...perhaps I missed it. Thanks, again! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] copy problem [SOLVED]
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 16:31 -0500, dwain wrote: > Tom Patton wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 02:47 -0500, dwain wrote: > > > >> M Harris wrote: > >> > >> > No, wda530106 is the user name, I have a different password for the > account. Is it difficult to change the user profile name without > messing things up? Maybe it would be easier at log in, you know, not so > much to type. > Ok, it caught my eye as being a possible password. And you are right about security, you are definitely entering the better world! Unless you log in and out frequently, nothing wrong with a long login name. The users and groups are actually tracked in the kernel by a number assigned at the time the user/group is created. You (as root) can edit the password file manually (with "vipw", a derivative of the editor "vi") and change the login name, full name, etc. Or you could create a new user, and copy files over from your existing home folder, but then you have to "chown" and "chmod" several things. I'd suggest you get to know "man", and take your time understanding file permissions and such. (If you are already beyond that, excuse me...) Try "man vipw", "man vi", and even "man man" for starters...but don't do anything until you understand the foundation. Most of all, don't get frustrated. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSE removes files
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 22:44 +0200, Hudibras wrote: > El dom, 01-04-2007 a las 21:19 +0100, peter nikolic escribió: > > On Sunday 01 April 2007, Hudibras wrote: > > > El dom, 01-04-2007 a las 08:53 -0400, Jerry Feldman escribió: > > > > On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:20:35 +0200 > > > > > > > > Hudibras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This has been very hard to follow, but there must be a rational reason for the unseen files. Are all these missing files in their own directory? And is the entire directory "empty"? Perhaps you had a "pix" folder on its own partition, and a "music" directory on another partition...etc...etc. If so, and they now appear empty, could it be that they have failed to mount? That could explain if you now "cd" to the "mount point", and get an empty directory listing... If so, the files are probably still there and safe...but on an unmounted partition. I'm guessing these drives are all internal, but just in case...are these NFS mounted file systems? That also would show you an empty folder if the NFS mount failed. What does /etc/mtab have to tell you??? Just a thought from New Mexico... Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] copy problem [SOLVED]
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 02:47 -0500, dwain wrote: > M Harris wrote: > > > > It will look something like this: > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 192 2006-10-01 00:35 . > > drwxr-xr-x 34 mark users 1808 2007-04-01 01:17 .. > > -rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 1703 2006-10-01 00:27 bclib > > -rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 254 2006-10-01 00:27 bctests > > > > > > But I want to know what YOUR ls -al looks like... please. > So here's the ls -al from the profiles folder: > > total 3784 > drwxr-xr-x 2 wda530106 users4096 2007-04-01 02:14 . > drwxr-xr-x 34 wda530106 users4096 2007-04-01 02:14 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 wda530106 users 3852820 2005-11-03 06:01 > adobe-color-profiles-1.0-1.noarch.rpm > -rw-r--r-- 1 wda530106 users2505 2007-03-31 21:47 gmail-to-outlook.csv > -rw-r--r-- 1 wda530106 users3024 2007-03-31 21:06 > sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_noBPC.icc > dwain -- welcome to LINUX, hang in there, it is worth the confusion, and help is here, from many smart guys and gals... I'm not using profiles to compare my folder, but I wonder if you have given up a password somehow. Notice Mark's listing shows his user name "mark", and your listing shows user "wda530106". That seems to me an awkward user name. You mentioned a reinstall, did you perhaps inadvertently use your password as your login NAME??? If that is a password, I suggest you forget it and select a new one! If it was a "test user", then ""never mind"". Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Time stability
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 08:17 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > No offence taken. Not a design oversight. Systems evolve over time. New > things get added that need to be integrated. It would be great if one > could retro-design existing hardware based on new requirements. In fact > we have two independent time sync methods. One is based on our own > hardware. We are trying to move away from that as we move to a COTS > solution. Or, at least, 95% COTS. There are few solutions for this that > do not simply change the problem to a different one. We are trying to > keep problems limited to those we understand and can explain, it not > actually solve. > > Also, the original question I had was not so much about not being able > to sync. It was that it makes quality control ever so much more reliable > when dates on files somewhat (within some minutes of tolerance) match > the real time. The sync/accuracy thing was also an aside. We just want > the damned PC clock not to change random amounts at reboot. Well, I hope "man hwclock" and the other links lead you to the problem. Thanks for bringing it up, BTW. This pc seldom gets re-booted, other than kernel updates. I haven't set the time since installing 10.2, and "hwclock --show" indicates I have a 40 second drift in the past 6 days. Guess I'll spend the next few days "walking" the correction factor into range. Good luck to you! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Time stability
On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 18:13 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 19:15 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > We already do all this. My original question was not really about gps at > all. It was simple about a computer keeping time correct across boots. > Not changing the time by, say, 8.3 hours. The gps discussion has been an > aside. Which is what I thought you were asking in the first place. So was it a problem with the /etc/adjtime file? We've been using GPS per-second pulse for years, and usually involves phase-locking a clock. (Simulcasting and HDTV, for example. To the point of calculating the delay site-to-site for location AND elevation.) Sounds like you are on that path, but I haven't heard you mention a "master-car-clock" you would then sync all your equipment to. There are even stand-alone time servers you could install in each vehicle, referenced to GPS and serving the in-car lan (not necessarily Ethernet-type, but your sensor "network") . Each device would "learn" its inherent delay and compensate accordingly, if the lan was synchronous and predictable. Include the time pole concurrently with your other sensor polling. Your "get-data" loop would know precisely how many cycles it took, assuming it didn't get interrupted. Perhaps you actually need TWO clocks, one known stable to very tight tolerance (short-term), and the other phase-locked to the GPS so you would know the GPS variance to apply, compensating for the movement your sensors detect. Sounds like you are caught in an "oops" mode and trying to avoid an earlier oversight in the plan stage, necessitating a major re-write? ...no offense intended. If you are really pushing the envelope, then BEST of luck, and have FUN. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Time stability
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 13:14 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 11:42 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I'm not a script wizard, maybe someone will chime it... Couldn't you parse a NEMA sentence to get "mmddhhmm.ss" to use for the argument to date? Use that in a script parse nema rm /etc/adjtime date hwclock --systohc hwclock --hctosys rm /etc/adjtime Then, on the next shutdown, a true /etc/adjtime will be written to the disk...so the next boot SHOULD be reasonably accurate. If they all have GPS available on the road, I'd run the script daily anyway. The script would have to run as root, of course. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time
On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 16:02 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote: > > > Yeah.. But that 5 second period is happening far away from the rc master > script that controls the processes. > The VMware processes are started and stopped via its rc script > /etc/init.d/vmware, so the "problem" isn't in the end of everything, the > problem is that the halt (shutdown) is called even though the stop > script has not finished. > > I hope you follow my thoughts now, so you understand what I'm writing about. > I don't use vmware, but had similar issue with Zoneminder closing it's mySQL db on time. I made zm script last-to-start and first-to-kill which solved the problem. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] EULA Required for Updated OpenSuSE 10.2 Kernel Patch
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 18:20 -0600, Terry Eck wrote: > Anders Johansson wrote: > > As I stated, the Window appeared while I was performing an update (which > is still being processed). > There were 5 patches listed: kernel(Security)(noarch), kernel-default, > kernel-source, yast2-printer, and > yast2-printer(noarch). The window's title was clearly as I stated. I > won't belabor the point. > > Terry > > -- > openSUSE 10.2 (i586) -- 2.6.18.2-34-default -- Sat 03/10/07 > 6:10pm up 10:23, 6 users, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 > > For what it's worth, I did an update of the kernel today at noon, saw no EULA, but there was an agreement for the agfa TT fonts. I am now at: Linux master 2.6.18.8-0.1-default #1 SMP Fri Mar 2 13:51:59 UTC 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux I assume your email signature is not current...what version does your "uname -a" show? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Need explanation - question 1
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 10:42 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: > Onsdag 07 marts 2007 07:48 skrev Ken Jennings: > > On Friday 2006-12-01 15:52, usr wrote: > > > ... > > > > may we see the output of "df -h"? > > Here's my layout, since about the 8.0 days, now fully loaded with 10.2. /boot is ext2, all else is reiserfs. master:~ # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 3.1G 193M 2.9G 7% / udev 506M 216K 506M 1% /dev /dev/sda1 54M 9.6M 41M 19% /boot /dev/md0 11G 6.6G 3.5G 66% /data1 /dev/sda10 39G 1.5G 38G 4% /home /dev/sdb7 132G 61G 71G 47% /local /dev/sda7 4.1G 1.4G 2.7G 34% /opt /dev/sda9 11G 74M 10G 1% /srv /dev/sda8 4.0G 9.2M 3.8G 1% /tmp /dev/md1 11G 2.3G 7.8G 23% /usr /dev/sdb2 5.1G 1.4G 3.7G 27% /usr/lib /dev/sda3 5.1G 468M 4.6G 10% /var When I do a fresh install, I copy /home into /data1 (ie /data1/home92), then format everything except /data1 and /local. (I'd hate to accidentally loose one of the kids' homework papers...or the wife's favorite recipe!) I used to keep /usr and /usr/lib on separate hard drives, to improve load speed, but now /usr is on raid, and touches both sda and sdb anyway. I can't tell a big difference. I should probably rethink that and include /local in a raid instead...next computer, I guess. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How to connect to MSSQL database?
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 21:39 -0300, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote: > Cody Nelson escribió: > At least with PHP, you cannot connect to MSSQL at the moment, since > there is no official nor Buildservice only packages. (altough I already > packaged the needed libraries, Im yet to enable mssql support in > buildservice PHP packages) I'm using php5 (php5-5.2.0-10) and mysql for zoneminder. I don't recall any problems with the suse dvd install. Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast bad manners
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:38 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > On Monday 19 February 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote: > While we are on the subject of lame programming in yast let me > bitch about /etc/sysconfig editor in TEXT MODE yast. Every time you > down arrow through the several hundred entries you get a flashing > tipple paint of the entire screen. Don't tell me the programmer > didn't notice this!!! > > Its really annoying to be working on a machine a thousand miles > away and have to wait out that flashing. > DURN, you're right! I can now really dread helping my daughter set up her new 10.2 and Verizon DSL in Virginia in a few days...:-( I think that deserves a bug report...feel up to it? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] user logout
On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 23:13 -0600, M Harris wrote: > On Tuesday 13 February 2007 22:39, Tom Patton wrote: > > Any ideas on what might be the cause? > Do the process numbers eventually become defunct or vanish say in > 10 > minutes or so..? Well, the mystery remains, and it may not be just gnome. I logged in/out shepat as gnome and left stuff... I logged in/out sabpat as gnome and left stuff...removed it manually. I logged again in/out sabpat as kde and left stuff. and robin's stuff is still there also. Top for users... (from gnome) 5291 robin 15 0 3776 912 700 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.03 dbus-daemon 5389 robin 16 0 39752 3112 2380 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.25 bonobo-activati 5394 robin 15 0 9436 3784 3128 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.07 gnome-vfs-daemo 5468 robin 15 0 74996 21m 10m S 0.0 2.1 0:11.60 beagled 6256 robin 16 0 88068 9348 7352 S 0.0 0.9 0:00.64 evolution-data- 6502 robin 22 0 000 Z 0.0 0.0 0:01.33 mono 6509 robin 21 0 000 Z 0.0 0.0 0:01.40 mono (from kde) 10773 sabpat25 0 3776 544 400 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 dbus-daemon 11282 sabpat -51 0 11332 6328 4724 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.30 artsd (from gnome) 9900 shepat15 0 3776 900 700 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.02 dbus-daemon 9988 shepat15 0 9436 3784 3128 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.06 gnome-vfs-daemo and "who" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> who thpnalb tty2 2007-02-14 21:51 jerpat pts/02007-02-14 15:30 (camserv2.site) thpnalb :0 2007-02-14 22:00 thpnalb pts/12007-02-14 22:00 thpnalb pts/32007-02-14 22:01 thpnalb pts/42007-02-14 22:01 thpnalb pts/52007-02-14 22:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> Perhaps this is nothing to worry about, but it certainly would eat up resources if there were dozens of users, all leaving orphans when they leave. Does anyone know if this is a new "undocumented feature" of the kernel? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] user logout
Since SuSE 6.2, I have not noticed what I now see with 10.2/gnome. I have seen this from day one of my 10.2 experience. One user logs in with gnome, three other users always login kde or by ssh -X, and I usually login fvwm. Every time the gnome user logs out, several apps remain idle in the machine. All other users clean up when they leave. robin is NOT logged on now, but this is the "top" for user robin... 19227 robin 22 0 3772 912 700 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.06 dbus-daemon 19265 robin 16 0 39748 3168 2388 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.26 bonobo-activati 19270 robin 18 0 9440 3784 3128 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.06 gnome-vfs-daemo 19327 robin 15 0 70952 21m 10m S 0.0 2.1 0:21.38 beagled 20182 robin 18 0 79868 9308 7344 S 0.0 0.9 0:00.30 evolution-data- 20553 robin 16 0 000 Z 0.0 0.0 0:01.41 mono 20558 robin 18 0 000 Z 0.0 0.0 0:01.39 mono and "who"... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> who thpnalb :0 2007-02-13 19:58 jerpat pts/02007-02-13 19:41 (camserv2.site) thpnalb pts/22007-02-13 20:59 thpnalb pts/32007-02-13 21:03 thpnalb pts/12007-02-13 19:58 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> Any ideas on what might be the cause? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] irq_balancer service on single cpu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> uname -a Linux master 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 11:46:27 UTC 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux As mentioned in other threads, the default kernel is SMP. I noticed that the irq_balancer service was enabled with an *, indicating that it was _not_ running. I disabled it in two 10.2 pc's here, YAST did its "stop" thing, and the return was "success". Seems like it _was_ running, I think... The result so far has been dramatic. A very simple example is kpat, the card game...with the service off, X response is smooth and fast. With the service on, card movement is slightly jerky. This is an ATI 9800 graphics card with 3d enabled. Perhaps a contributing factor is that I have 3 pci video cards, 2 of which are motion-detecting 6 cameras in zoneminder & mysql & apache, so my system is heavy on the irq's. But for whatever reason, I can say for certain it is better off without the irq_balancer enabled! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Apps fail to exit cleanly
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 06:34 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 21:44 -0600, M Harris wrote: > > On Sunday 11 February 2007 03:14, kanenas wrote: > > > > Has anyone seen anything similar? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom in NM > > > > > > firefox hangs up too frequently for me too. > > Guys, make sure you're running the latest Firefox. If you're still on > > 1.5.x.x > > then upgrade to 2.0.0.1 > You MAY be correct on this, I pulled in the Moz/FF updates Sunday > afternoon to: > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20061023 > SUSE/2.0.0.1-0.1 Firefox/2.0.0.2pre > > and so far have not seen the problem with firefox-bin hanging up. Since > it was intermittent, I'll reserve judgment for a couple more days on > that. oops, I meant to say Saturday on the firefox update download...not that it makes much diff... I also just noticed perhaps an oddity with the default install being the smp kernel...that the irq-balancer service is also started...and this is an athlon fx 2800, not a multi-processor. I turned off the service in yast, and things "seem" more responsive. I know, not very scientific, eh? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Apps fail to exit cleanly
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 21:44 -0600, M Harris wrote: > On Sunday 11 February 2007 03:14, kanenas wrote: > > > Has anyone seen anything similar? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom in NM > > > > firefox hangs up too frequently for me too. > Guys, make sure you're running the latest Firefox. If you're still on > 1.5.x.x > then upgrade to 2.0.0.1 You MAY be correct on this, I pulled in the Moz/FF updates Sunday afternoon to: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20061023 SUSE/2.0.0.1-0.1 Firefox/2.0.0.2pre and so far have not seen the problem with firefox-bin hanging up. Since it was intermittent, I'll reserve judgment for a couple more days on that. I now have all the latest updates through Sunday, and the other issues in my original post are still happening...(I love my modem...NOT!). Thanks for your reply! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] PCI card order on boot
Another oddity, since upgrade from 9.3 to 10.2... I have 3 video cards...(2) 4-port cards for camera system (zoneminder security system) and (1) pcHDTV 3000 tuner. It was never a problem with 9.3, but now they will swap order on reboot randomly. ie sometimes the tuner will be video0 and other times it will be video2. Likewise, the 4-port cards will swap their assignments, which causes loss of the security system. I guess I'll have to bone up on HAL and UDEV, but in the mean time, anyone have any suggestions how to lock the cards down sanely on the pci bus? Thanks! Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Apps fail to exit cleanly
I posted a part of this last week, but excused it as I had not pulled in all the upgrades for 10.2. Now I have everything current, I believe, and still have the issue++. It started with Firefox leaving 'firefox-bin' running, so a new session will not start until I remove firefox-bin with either top or "killall firefox-bin". In addition, I have seen similar instances with kinternet refusing to start, thinking it is still running. Killall then re-launch gets it going. And the third part of the puzzle...over the past week, on logging into gnome, and launching evolution, I will get the keyring password window maybe 1 out of three times. When I do get the keyring login, evolution works fine. When I don't, I have to enter my pop password every time I check mail. (of course, if I'm on kde or fvwm, I have the password issue anyway...) So far I have not found any error logs to shed light on this. The firefox issue is repeatable in my laptop AND the kids pc, all three running 10.2. All three of the above complaints are intermittent, which really has me scratching my head! It will happen in kde, fvwm, gnome OR twm. perhaps it is related to the recent thread about smp kernel as the default? Linux master 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 11:46:27 UTC 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux this is an athlon fx 2800 with a gig of ram (32-bit). The kids pc is a pentium 4 with the same kernel Linux Camserv2 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 11:46:27 UTC 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Has anyone seen anything similar? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] need to move /var to RAID
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 22:51 +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote: > Mon, 05 Feb 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Hello, > > > > How can I move /var, currently on the system drive, to the RAID drive > > without hosing my system? > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > Goto single user runlevel. > # init S > Then do whatever you have to do. > > Theo I don't think that would be safe, even a single user would most likely still have files open in /var...logs, etc... I vote with Brian...rescue boot! Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Firefox fails complete exit via ssh or console launch
Been using 10.2 for a month now on two pc's and a laptop at work, and the kids pc at home. Yesterday I upgraded (boxed DVD) my main pc at home, and now have an issue with firefox termination. The kids ssh -X into "master", then launch evolution, firefox, etc in a shell. They immediately complained that firefox would not open. It appears that when they would close ffox, it would fail to remove firefox-bin, and I would have to remove it manually. I was able to duplicate it by "sux - (kid-user)", and then randomly found it would fail to terminate from my own console launch. All other programs launched through the shell by them terminate properly, it seems to only be an issue with firefox if console-launched. We just discovered that if launched in foreground, they can then issue a ctrl-C to finish the termination...an easy work-around. They can tell when it hangs, since they don't get their prompt back. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> uname -a Linux master 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 11:46:27 UTC 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux Perhaps this will clear up once I pull the updates through my (ugh) modem...sound familiar? Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Java applets in browser are not working !
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 13:30 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote: > On Friday 02 February 2007 10:36, Samir van de Sand wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > I've a 32 bit Suse 10.2 system running. > > Here's my typical test site: http://netspeed.stanford.edu > I just got around to installing 10.2 yesterday in my main pc, and your test site works fine here with firefox. I did a straight through install (Athlon 32bit) from dvd, chose gnome and then added kde after it all finished...(have not done any updates yet). Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kssh on openSUSE 10.2 ? Where ?
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 17:14 +0100, Marco Karsten wrote: > You are not the only one missing it... Me too. I haven't gotten around to hunting it yet, only have the kids pc on 10.2. I just looked in the yast for 9.3 and don't find it either, as I recall that's when it disappeared ... after 9.2. I've been using "ssh -X" for quite some time now. Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] CrossOver and Visio
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 13:57 +0200, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote: > Kai Ponte wrote: > > On Sunday 28 January 2007 23:40, Hans van der Merwe wrote: > > > > > To the OP, why not investigate Dia at http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/ > as it is a Linux Visio 'clone' or perhaps run Visio in a Windows VM? Will the latest version of DIA import visio drawings? I've had no luck up to the version with suse9.3, even if I export as .svg from visio, to see the drawings correctly in DIA. (I have not tried the version with s10.2 yet...I will give it another shot at work today.) Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: enable 3d -- disabled keyboard???
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 20:48 -0600, Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 1/28/07, Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > is there a keyboard conf file, or something, that might have been > modified to screw this up? Where should I start looking? Maybe the list is messed up right now, seems to be very low traffic... I'm thinking if you can logon in console mode, don't run "startx", but instead su to root, and try running "sax2". You should find a section for the keyboard there. If that fails, you could boot from your install disk, and on the third-or-so screen, instead of install choose "repair installed system". Hopefully one of those routes will replace the corrupted keyboard configuration in X. Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] a user call for attention on SuSE's mp3 support issue
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 13:49 +0100, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 13:15:49 PM +0100, jdd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Check question "How is the MPEG-4 Visual Patent Portfolio License > organized?" at http://www.mpegla.com/m4v/m4v-faq.cfm > > What it says in plain english is that if you put some MPEG4 DIY movie > of your own holidays on your own web page together with Google ads, > you *have* to pass some of that revenue as royalties to the > consortium. > This arguement of royalty will not be settled here...or perhaps anywhere. On one hand, they have a right to revenue from their product, and in this case, I guess you can use it free if YOU don't receive anything by their product (file format). So in a sense, we are much better off than in the old days...when EVERYONE had to buy the celuloid strip from KODAK...? Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] my internet hub prefers windoze to linux!
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 23:36 -0600, M Harris wrote: > > > I would recommend the Skylink 8 Port switch... relatively inexpensive, > and > very fast (does 10/100,. and keeps track of 100 or 10 separately) for the > money for a wired network. > I'd suggest buying a gigabit switch to cover future upgrades. My 2-yr old Asus MB interface is gig, and a gig card in the kids computer was very inexpensive...and blazing fast! I have the 5-port Linksys EG005W, and it handles /10 (HP Laserjet printer) /100 (2 laptops) &/1000 (2 pc's) flawlessly. But definately toss the hub! Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] fsck running amok
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 15:24 -0600, Greg Wallace wrote: > Well, I've done some more digging on this problem and, though I have found > out some things, I am still no closer to solving the problem than before. > > 1) The huge amount of lines in /var/log/messages seems to be unrelated to > why I'm getting an fsck every time I boot. There are hundreds of lines in > there that look like this one -- Just a thought here...wouldn't the messages of interest be in /var/log/boot.msg instead of /var/log/messages? That's where all my reiserfs messages are, before the kernel is booted up... Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 09:21 +0100, Mike wrote: > On Sunday 14 January 2007 03:13, Tom Patton wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 01:45 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > Could be greylisting. this is basically a spam fighter. BINGO, Mike. Got a boilerplate reply on the virtues of greylisting and he closed the ticket! To Bo: I didn't mean for my suggestion (to you on possibly why you weren't seeing your posts) to divert this thread. Hope you are doing ok. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Future of SUSE (at home)
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 18:37 -0600, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote: > On Jan 14, 2007, at 6:21 PM, James Knott wrote: > > > > > I find that ordinary lighter fluid works well for most label glues. > > True. It does. But it can also eat through the plastic if one isn't > careful. :) I find that wd-40 on a rag will remove nearly every kind of adhesive commonly used for tape and labels...safely. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Future of SUSE (at home)
EXTREMELY well stated, Kevin... On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 21:49 +, Kevin Donnelly wrote: > On Sunday 14 January 2007 15:15, Jan Elders wrote:XTRE > > I think HG made a valid point. > > Look at the various threads in this list from newbies who are desparate and > > lost how to get for instance their DVD working. > > Yes, for you (and me) it is quite simple because we know what actions we > > must take in advance to gets things working ( see analogy with the car), > > but have you forgotten the first time when you (probably) also had to > > search and inquire before you had things going ? > > I think one of the problems is that many new users come along and expect to > be > told exactly what to do in their specific situation to solve whatever problem > they're having. "If Linux is as good as Windows, it must be able to do this > - I haven't done much googling or reading, but I think you should tell me the > answer right now." The response may come across as arrogant, but that is > because the original request may have been a bit arrogant - how many posts > have there been on this list about codecs (which is why the DVD may not be > working - see (4) below) over the last 6 months? It might be polite to read > some of them before asking again. > > New users, please remember: > > (1) You spent a lot of time learning about Microsoft Windows (and swearing at > it, and reinstalling drivers, and sanitising it, and ...) - you have to > expect to invest some time in experimentation, finding out what YaST can do, > etc. > > (2) Why?, you might say. Because you are interested in Linux for a purpose - > namely, to redress some of the perceived problems with Microsoft Windows. > Linux is not a "Windows + better security + no-cost software" - it's a lot > more than that, and it is also a community. Step outside the proprietary box > you are used to - you may find the first steps disconcerting, but freedom > opens up better vistas than Vista. > > (3) If you think info is too hard to find, do your bit for others coming > after > you, and write a page on the wiki to document dealing with specific problems > (of course, if people don't read it - cf (1) above - you may be giving > "arrogant" answers yourself in a few months ...). > > (4) If you are annoyed with multimedia problems, don't complain here, and > don't slag off the distro and/or Linux, baecause that is not where the > problem lies. Instead, write to the manufacturers of every piece of media > equipment you bought or own, and ask them to provide the option to use open > formats. Write to your legislators asking them to outlaw consumer lock-in > via closed formats. This will take too much of your valuable time, you say? > Not as much time as people have put in trying to create open formats and work > around closed ones, with users still complaining because the world is as it > is, and not how they want it to be. > > (5) The first responsibility for free software users is to accept > responsibility - if proprietary formats are stopping you doing what you > want, stop using them, make a big fuss about it, try to persuade others not > to use them, buy only equipment that allows open formats as well (even if it > costs another $10, and you have to wait a week for it to be delivered), etc. > Big companies like to peddle the myth that the computer user is a consumer, > and go on to make an artificial distinction between the users/consumers and > themselves, the "producers" or "content providers". Proprietary formats are > a prime tool in this - if you see no problem with them, you will probably > have difficulty ever adjusting to a non-proprietary world. > > On Sunday 14 January 2007 18:22, Stevens wrote: > > And therein lies the problem: the "look down your nose" attitude of most > > Linux nerds about the development of user-friendly tools and GUIs. There > > are vast numbers of computer owners out there who use M$ because it works > > for them without requiring much in the way of computer skills and until > > such time that a Linux distro comes along that offers the same ease of > > use, Linux will stay in the background. > > My dear man/boy/girl/woman - there are millions of people using Linux > "because > it works for them". Do you think they are all having delusional fantasies? > No-one is suggesting that you must pass the Eight Levels of Geekiness to be > allowed to lay your hands on the One True OS - that is your interpretation of > the need to experiment a bit rather than pressing "OK" (see (1) above). > > The reason why you may need to experiment a bit (choose a different app, a > different configuration, etc) is because Linux allows you to do a huge number > of things that you are not allowed to do in proprietary systems, or which > would be very expensive there. It's a bit like being in a car rather than on > a train - you can see all that nice countryside from a train, but you can't
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
It forms the word " I D 10 T" ;-) But the other posts about grey listing certainly makes sense, and then makes the above error code extremely accurate! The micro-net service agent has upped the ticket to their sysadmin... Tom in NM On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 12:34 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Sunday 2007-01-14 at 01:41 -0600, david rankin wrote: > > >Nope Tom, my bet is that it is an "I D ten T" error code. Seen it many > > times. Seems to plague the technical community. It is obvious though. Just > > substitute the number 10 for the word "ten" in the foregoing quote and have > > a > > close look at the error code. It will "speak" volumes. I have falled victim > > to > > it a number of times over the years. Much more so after having children (3 > > to > > be exact). > > I don't understand a word. :-? > > - -- > Cheers, >Carlos E. R. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 > > iD8DBQFFqhUwtTMYHG2NR9URAq/WAJ9xPkGMQO/egjSmFbJzCe9S9cYTDgCfeZ3r > XdmxhoNpntihfV6KT4gdRI8= > =Hm8t > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 01:45 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > That's the exit hop from suse to your isp, that took 18 minutes. Too much. > The only one that can tell what happened is a suse sysadmin by looking at > his logs. That's correct, Carlos. According to Henne, the smtproutes.com server is returning status=deferred, and suse re-sends the email after 20 minutes. Why the second attempt makes it is a mystery...at least to me! I've a querie into my ISP to figure out why...and also why it is only happening to mail from suse... I get other forums, and even a direct email from Henne in mere seconds. Perhaps they have a sluggish server in the rack. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 16:54 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Saturday 2007-01-13 at 07:25 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > > > > Or they may just be late like mine...sometimes up to an hour before I > > > see my posts...but at least 15 minutes. Probably the huge volume on > > > this forum. > > > > > 21 minutes for that one... > > Mmmm... no, you have a problem. I got it instantly. See: > > > You posted at:07:25:22 -0700(your clock is fast) > Your provider got it at: 06:22:50 -0800 (PST) > Suse got it at: 15:22:52 +0100 (CET) > My provider got it at:15:23:16 +0100 > > I polled for it at: 15:30:35 +0100 > > > So, no, delays are local to you. Check your own headers to see where is > the stoppage ;-) Looks like it spent 18minutes between the following stages... Received: from lists4.suse.de ([195.135.221.135]) by k008.smtproutes.com ([192.168.2.134]) with ESMTP via TCP; 13 Jan 2007 14:20:37 - Received: from lists4.suse.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists4.suse.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E17E7BE5E; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:02:12 + (GMT) and then another server hop on to me in a few seconds...I posted it at 07:02. I've never thought much about it, until the other guy was wondering why he wasn't seeing his posts. Tom (not using NTP) in NM ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 07:04 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: > On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 12:22 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > Or they may just be late like mine...sometimes up to an hour before I > see my posts...but at least 15 minutes. Probably the huge volume on > this forum. > 21 minutes for that one... Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] TEST Am I really on this list?
On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 12:22 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Saturday 2007-01-13 at 12:23 +0100, Bo wrote: > > > Are you supposed to see your own postings in the mail? > > Yes, but some people don't. For example, those posting through gmail. > Or they may just be late like mine...sometimes up to an hour before I see my posts...but at least 15 minutes. Probably the huge volume on this forum. -- Tom in NM SuSE 9.3/Evolution 7:03am up 11:21, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.09, 0.12 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Network Manager??? (WiFi problem)
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:59 -0600, Dennis J. Tuchler wrote: > Anders Johansson wrote: > > On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:12, Dennis J. Tuchler wrote: > >> Not butting in...well a little. I could never get this thinkpad (r40) to work wireless in suse9.3. Yast in 10.2 found it, set it up, I added kinternet as a control interface, and voila! I'm able to email this from a motel in Silver City. Wahoo! GREAT JOB...10.2 TEAM! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often
sorry...must remember ctrl-L! Perhaps you should choose a different session type on login, like fvwm, and see if it stops. That would isolate kde and screensaver issues. Then I'd try booting with acpi off... Tom On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 05:17 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote: > No use for this, as the box is completely powered off... as if you pulled the > cable... > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Mail from FireFox.]
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 19:17 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote: > Fred A. Miller wrote: > > On Monday January 01 2007 1:59 am, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> Of course editing this file won't work - it's not the file. > >> > >> Something is really screwed up there Fred if you can only find the one > >> prefs.js on your system. > >> > >> Confirming, in my 10.2 install, straight SUSE from boxDVD, I have in home: ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxx.default/prefs.js Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] sound recorder recommendation
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 16:19 -0800, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote: > On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 20:00 +0100, Primm wrote: > > Any recommendations apart from krecord? I want good quality sound files via > > a > > hand held microphone to burn to a cd. 10.2 > > apropos record | grep sound > arecord (1) - command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA > soundcard driver > > ecasound (1) - sample editor, multitrack recorder, fx-processor, > etc. > > aplay (1)- command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA > soundcard driver > > As I remember arecord is the one you use when converting a vinyl record > to wav. Audacity might be useful for you... Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
