Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 25. 2006 19:35]:

 Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
 ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
 poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello
 World in YCP.

Please look at http://en.opensuse.org/Code10_YaST_Development and follow
the provided links.

We're happy to enhance the documentation if you have specific questions.

Klaus
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Jiri Srain
Hi!

On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:35, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Hi all !

 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:

 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)
 2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
 4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh)
 5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects)

Before you start writing any new module, please, get in touch with someone 
from the YaST team in SUSE in order to check that the module is notbeing 
developed by us and won't appear in next Alpha snapshot ;-) AFAIK FTP server 
module is already being developed (but don't know the state of it ATM). SSH 
server module is being used as example in the YaST tutorial.

 Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.
 Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
 ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
 poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello
 World in YCP.

The tutorial at forge (see 
http://forgeftp.novell.com/yast/doc/SLES10/tutorials/index.html) might be 
good starting poing.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-27 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Monday 27 November 2006 08:53 schrieb Peter Czanik:
 Hello,

 Adrian Schröter wrote:
  Actually, I do not want to touch the factory directories atm, because we
  will anyway move them into the build service later. Changing it for that
  timeframe does only cause problems IMHO.

 What does it mean for PPC users? No more 'factory', or there will be PPC
 buildservice soon? Bye,

We are currently discussion about that with IBM. IBM said they are interested 
to sponsor the build service for PPC. If they do, it will be there, if not, 
it might disappear.

bye
adrian

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Re: [opensuse-factory] UPS monitoring

2006-11-27 Thread Andras Mantia
On Monday 27 November 2006 11:46, Andreas Klein wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andras Mantia wrote:
  Hi,
 
   What was the reason of dropping any kind of UPS monitoring tool
  from SUSE? IIRC nut (http://www.networkupstools.org/) was included
  in earlier releases, but I cannot find in 10.2. I'm not sure about
  10.1, if it had or not.

 It is still in 10.2:
 inst-source/suse/i586/nut-2.0.4-20.i586.rpm
 Name: nut  Relocations: (not
 relocatable) Version : 2.0.4 Vendor:
 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany
 Release : 20Build Date: Tue Nov  7
 03:32:51 2006
 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:
 c001n01.suse.de Group   : Hardware/UPS  Source
 RPM:
 nut-2.0.4-20.src.rpm
 Size: 2825949  License: GNU General
 Public License (GPL) - all versions
 Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Tue Nov  7 03:38:18 2006, Key ID
 a84edae89c800aca Packager: http://bugs.opensuse.org
 URL : http://www.networkupstools.org/
 Summary : UPS Monitoring Software

I see, it is just not on the DVD media (at least for x86_64). I searched 
for it in YaST and this is why I didn't found it.

Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Christian Boltz schreef:
 Hello,

 Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 21:18 schrieb Robby (M9.):
 gpgkeys: key 5F9FD7E57E8BA438 not found on keyserver

Something wrong about the key, the one i sent you, is the one i use
(look at the header)

 BTW: Your GPG key still isn't available on the keyservers :-(

 I can not believe, that i am the only one, who thinks, that the
 available partitioners do not work.
 If you do not use LVM, you can not use it to make changes
 afterwards..

 Huh?

Exactly my reaktion, and than: shit.


 If you use LVM, you can not make changes afterwards...

 Huh? (I don't use LVM, but I would be _very_ surprised if this was
 true.)

Maybe try it, and see.

 If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
 throw away, and recreate partitions,

 This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully.

This is not what i mean:
suppose you have 8 partitions: /boot, /root, /usr, /opt, /var, swap,
/home and /shared.
Now you want to make changes to 5 of them.
You will have to trow them away, to recreate them, there is, as far as i
know, no other way.
Simply because if you want more room in one, it goes by the cost  of the
next one.
How will you be able to make these changes and keep 3 of them, without
counting the cylinders?
I do not know...

 simply because you can not see what you are doing.

 Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or
 upload some screenshots somewhere ;-)

If you can throw everything away, certainly, there is no problem at all..
If you do not want to throw away your settings, and all the files you
want to keep, you will have to save them somewhere else, or burn them.

There is also no problem, if you want to keep your partitions the same
size, and only want to format them.
This is my workaround.

I do not know if you have ever used Partition Magic?
That would make my story more clear...
Sometimes, after experimenting with sizes, you learn, that sizes better
can be adjusted, to get the room, wherever it is realy needed.
Especialy when the OS builds realy change, it is nessesary to adjust the
partitions to the correct size.
(the why is that the machine is much faster if the systems searchtime is
shortened. (You can keep drivers and nessesary .exes (windows)And is
much easier to clean. I noticed that after using no partitions.)
Not to use seperate partitions is out of the question, for me

Partition Magic, from powerquest, is also thirthparty sw for windows.
Can be used to: resize, move, delete, create partitions, on a visual basis.
It counts the transactions, and processes them before starting up,
when nothing is in use.
It moves the data, resizes and renames, and that is it.
Never had a problem with it.

This can be done in SuSE now also, as we now can boot into the wanted
OS, before shutting down.

 You can only make partitions smaller, not move or
 resize a usable way.. it is not praktical to count all the cylinders,
 because than a simple transaction takes few hours, you have to
 calculate everything


 Again: I don't really understand your problems, please provide more
 details and/or screenshots.

The screenshots, will follow, if you do not understand what i mean.


 Everybody who uses them, knows that it is true what i am saying,
 because it is.

 Never say that you are everybody ;-)

I did not say that i am everybody..read the sentense again.



 Regards,

 Christian Boltz
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[opensuse-factory] USB drive formatted with ext3 still mounted with sync

2006-11-27 Thread Elliott Martin
I have noticed that fat32 formatted USB drives are now mounted without the 
sync flag and get faster transfer rates than before, but my ext3 formatted 
USB drive is still mounted with sync and gets write speeds around 3.5 MB/s. Is 
there time to get this fixed before the final release of 10.2?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB drive formatted with ext3 still mounted with sync

2006-11-27 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Montag, 27. November 2006 12:09 schrieb Elliott Martin:
 I have noticed that fat32 formatted USB drives are now mounted without the
 sync flag and get faster transfer rates than before, but my ext3 formatted
 USB drive is still mounted with sync and gets write speeds around 3.5 MB/s.
 Is there time to get this fixed before the final release of 10.2?

I doubt it (taking that we release RCs), the flush option is specific to vfat 
and someone would have to implement something along that line for the other 
file systems in the kernel.

In KDE you can configure the sync option by pressing rmb on my computer

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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB drive formatted with ext3 still mounted with sync

2006-11-27 Thread jdd

Stephan Kulow a écrit :


In KDE you can configure the sync option by pressing rmb on my computer


added to SDB :-) thanks

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Changing_mount_options_on_USB_mass_storage_device

Gnome users, may be there is something similar?

jdd


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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-27 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Sonntag, 26. November 2006 22:47 schrieb Christian Boltz:
 Nevertheless, I'll make the 10.2 partition active - but I will
 replace the reboot by shutdown, sleep, boot ;-) so I will report back
 tomorrow.

This did not change anything (as expected), so I finally reported this 
as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223852


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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB drive formatted with ext3 still mounted with sync

2006-11-27 Thread jdd

Stephan Kulow a écrit :


In KDE you can configure the sync option by pressing rmb on my computer


right and wonderfull... I didn't know that.

is this documented on the wiki?
thanks
jdd

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 installation

2006-11-27 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 22:47 +0100, Christian Boltz wrote:

  To test this, start fdisk and make your 10.2 partition active, and
  reboot
 
 I guess that's pointless because my 10.1 grub lives in the MBR.
 
 Nevertheless, I'll make the 10.2 partition active - 

That will not work, because the MBR takes precedence.

Instead, edit the grub/menu.lst of 10.1 and add something like this:


  title SuSE test 10.2
root (hd1,11) -- replace with the location of your
  10.2 grub boot parttition
chainloader +1

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 15:23 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

   Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been
   needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it
   only 15M, it's your own fault. ;)
  
  That's not completely true, they are needed with older hardware.
 
 I doubt that. My oldest hardware is 97/98 and it doesn't need it. Those
 boxes (of mine) have 64MB RAM max, SUSE doesn't even install on that any
 more since 10.0(?).
 
 Question: how many systems out there which have 128MB RAM need a
 separate /boot partition?

The problem is not RAM, but the bios. The bios services are used at first 
by lilo/boot to read the initial files, and older/buggy bioses simply can 
not access HD beyond a certain point.

My machine, circa 2001, has some problems with big disks.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB drive formatted with ext3 still mounted with sync

2006-11-27 Thread Jonathon M. Robison
What I am finding hard to do is configure the usbdisk to mount with acl
and user_xattr. I have my usb stick formatted for reiserfs and I use it
to perform daily backups of /home, but I always have to manually remount
with the acl and user_xattr options. Any ideas on that?

--Jon Robison

On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 13:07 +0100, jdd wrote:

 Stephan Kulow a écrit :
 
  In KDE you can configure the sync option by pressing rmb on my computer
 
 right and wonderfull... I didn't know that.
 
 is this documented on the wiki?
 thanks
 jdd
 


Re: [opensuse-factory] New openSUSE WIKI Document: YaST Remote Logging in Installation

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Lukas Ocilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Hi,

 I've just finished a new document about YaST Remote Logging in Installation.
 
 Cool - could you reference it from the bug reporting pages, please?

Good idea.
I've added a link to the bugreporting howto.

Anyway, it seems, I've forgotten to write a link to the document,
haven't I :)? Here it is:
http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Remote_Logging_in_Installation

Lukas



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Re: [opensuse-factory] bcm43xxx on Asus A2D Laptop

2006-11-27 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Peter Buschbacher wrote:

 bcm43xx: Error: Microcode bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or load 
 failed.

Known problem:

[Bug 204826] Bcm43xx driver needs non-oss firmware
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204826

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Re: [opensuse-factory] bcm43xxx on Asus A2D Laptop

2006-11-27 Thread Martin Schlander
Mandag 27 november 2006 15:39 skrev Stanislav Brabec:
 Peter Buschbacher wrote:
  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or load
  failed.

 Known problem:

 [Bug 204826] Bcm43xx driver needs non-oss firmware
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204826

I haven't tested the scripts that should be available in factory now. But I 
extracted firmware with fwcutter manually and my bcm4306 works like a charm 
with (K)NetworkManager, wpa-personal and everything. 

Life's a lot better than it was using Ndiswrapper.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] for 10.3 - strings too large to display

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
jdd wrote:
 This was seen on 640x480 screen, text mode
 
 I think this will not be for present one, but must be adressed, probably
 by a library patch.
 
 it's probably worst in french, but impact also the URL display.
 
 I speak of the width of many message strings on a small display, that
 are nearly un readable (too large/long)
 
 on a static display, for example when options are asked for and you can
 use tab to go from a button to a window, it's possible to shift the text
 with arrow keys, but on all the informative windows, this is not possible.
 
 many french strings are unreadable, right part of URL are unreadable.
 
 I don't exactly know what could be the solution? wrapping to the next
 line? enlarging the window (there is often room unused, even on such a
 small screen), trimming the center part of the string (...)?
 
 this is so current it must be addressed at the library level...

These problems need to be solved either case by case or as a general
solution. The problem is, don't take it personally, 'French' itself :)
It's a very talkative language.

Could you, please, send me some examples, screenshots? Use the default
size, that UI opens up. Don't extend any of the problematic windows.

Thanks
Lukas



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Robby (M9.) wrote:
 If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
 throw away, and recreate partitions,
 This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully.
 
 This is not what i mean:
 suppose you have 8 partitions: /boot, /root, /usr, /opt, /var, swap,
 /home and /shared.
 Now you want to make changes to 5 of them.
 You will have to trow them away, to recreate them, there is, as far as i
 know, no other way.
 Simply because if you want more room in one, it goes by the cost  of the
 next one.
 How will you be able to make these changes and keep 3 of them, without
 counting the cylinders?
 I do not know...

`yast2 disk`
There is a [Resize] button that you can use for resizing primary or
extended partitions or LVM. Yes, there is a problem that these
partitions must _not_ be mounted when you want to resize them.

You can resize the partition also during installation but, I'm afraid,
that not during update.

 Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or
 upload some screenshots somewhere ;-)
 
 If you can throw everything away, certainly, there is no problem at all..
 If you do not want to throw away your settings, and all the files you
 want to keep, you will have to save them somewhere else, or burn them.
 
 There is also no problem, if you want to keep your partitions the same
 size, and only want to format them.
 This is my workaround.
 
 I do not know if you have ever used Partition Magic?
 That would make my story more clear...
 Sometimes, after experimenting with sizes, you learn, that sizes better
 can be adjusted, to get the room, wherever it is realy needed.
 Especialy when the OS builds realy change, it is nessesary to adjust the
 partitions to the correct size.
 (the why is that the machine is much faster if the systems searchtime is
 shortened. (You can keep drivers and nessesary .exes (windows)And is
 much easier to clean. I noticed that after using no partitions.)
 Not to use seperate partitions is out of the question, for me
 
 Partition Magic, from powerquest, is also thirthparty sw for windows.
 Can be used to: resize, move, delete, create partitions, on a visual basis.
 It counts the transactions, and processes them before starting up,
 when nothing is in use.
 It moves the data, resizes and renames, and that is it.
 Never had a problem with it.

Partition Magic sometimes needs to be run before the system is loaded
but changes needs to be set in a running system, that's also not so
nice. Nevertheless it has quite nice UI, that's true.

AJ: Maybe it would make sense to have a special image on CD/DVD
(possibly executable from Linuxrc) that would contain some r/w YaST
modules, especially the partitioner. Just to tune the system.

This could also solve our problem installing openSUSE on computers with
little memory because one could prepare a swap partition before running
the installation and Linuxrc (installation) offers the possibility to
enable swap partition by appending a parameter to command-line.

Bye
Lukas



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko

Thanks to all respones, especially to: Jiri Srain and Klaus Kaempf.

I will look at this Yast tutorial later. Haven't saw it before.

Also I ask people who go offtopic - such as discussions about
*PartitionMagic* to start that discussion on a different mailing-list.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Hi all !
 
 As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
 would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
 that I would like to see:
...
 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
...
 Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.
 Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
 ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
 poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello
 World in YCP.

3. SSH Server
=

There already IS such module for configuring SSH server:
http://software.opensuse.org/download/YaST:/tools/SUSE_Factory/noarch/
yast2-sshd-0.0.1-1.41.noarch.rpm

It has been developed in the YaST-Tools project:
http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/YaST-Tools

And developing YaST modules is a piece of cake :)
http://forgeftp.novell.com//yast/doc/SLES10/tutorials/t1.html
This tutorial describes how the yast2-sshd module has been developed.

Enjoy :)!
Lukas



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RE: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Marc Collin

 
 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Hi all !
 
  As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
  would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
  that I would like to see:
 ...
  3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
 ...
  Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community.

don't talk for everybody

the guy who really need to setup a server and don't find a gui to do it,
will use the command line

  Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I
  ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse 
  poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond
Hello
  World in YCP.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Pascal Bleser wrote:
 What do you think ? 
 
 I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
 FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
 then on #suse (IRC).

I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
patch then :) ;)

Thanks
Lukas



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Re: [opensuse-factory] for 10.3 - strings too large to display

2006-11-27 Thread jdd

Lukas Ocilka a écrit :


These problems need to be solved either case by case or as a general
solution.


there are so many I think a general solution is necessary, 
that's why I don't expect it soon :-)


 The problem is, don't take it personally, 'French' itself :)

It's a very talkative language.


yes, but there are probably others also, and for example, 
the problem is always present for URL in the yast update 
modules.


This is quite unpleasant, because the window is not even 
close to the size of the screen.


for the url, two fast solutions should be:

* align right, so one can see the file name ratehr than the 
never changing server name :-)

* set in the po file, as a comment, the window size



Could you, please, send me some examples, screenshots? Use the default
size, that UI opens up. Don't extend any of the problematic windows.


I'll try

jdd

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko

I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
patch then :) ;)



Yes - I would like to have ability to do *traffic limiting* - IP
tables already supports that and I think it could be done at the GUI
level (in Yast). the only problem is that iptables limits IP packets
(they are variable size), and I would like to be able to limit with
bytes-per-second criteria. Is that doable?

I would like to be able to configure lmits for both upload  download
rates. Also I think that Firewall module is the correct place to do
that.

This is needed when working in LAN environment, with single shared
Internet connection,  so that you won't steal all the Internet
bandwidth from your parents/friends/colleagues. (At Home/LAN
party/Work). Unfortunately, not all Routers can do that.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Stan Glasoe
On Monday November 27 2006 11:04 am, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

 Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
 patch then :) ;)

 Thanks
 Lukas

Ability to read/write Firewall Builder files?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Jordi Bruguera i Cortada
El dl 27 de 11 del 2006 a les 19:34 +0200, en/na Alexey Eremenko va
escriure:

 Yes - I would like to have ability to do *traffic limiting* - IP
 tables already supports that and I think it could be done at the GUI
 level (in Yast). the only problem is that iptables limits IP packets
 (they are variable size), and I would like to be able to limit with
 bytes-per-second criteria. Is that doable?

Sure, visit:

http://lartc.org


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Lukas Ocilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Robby (M9.) wrote:
 If you use the partitioner from yast, which i do, you are not able to
 throw away, and recreate partitions,
 This _is_ possible - and I did this (on a 10.1 system) successfully.
 
 This is not what i mean:
 suppose you have 8 partitions: /boot, /root, /usr, /opt, /var, swap,
 /home and /shared.
 Now you want to make changes to 5 of them.
 You will have to trow them away, to recreate them, there is, as far as i
 know, no other way.
 Simply because if you want more room in one, it goes by the cost  of the
 next one.
 How will you be able to make these changes and keep 3 of them, without
 counting the cylinders?
 I do not know...

 `yast2 disk`
 There is a [Resize] button that you can use for resizing primary or
 extended partitions or LVM. Yes, there is a problem that these
 partitions must _not_ be mounted when you want to resize them.

 You can resize the partition also during installation but, I'm afraid,
 that not during update.

 Hmm, I had no problems - maybe you should provide more details (and/or
 upload some screenshots somewhere ;-)
 
 If you can throw everything away, certainly, there is no problem at all..
 If you do not want to throw away your settings, and all the files you
 want to keep, you will have to save them somewhere else, or burn them.
 
 There is also no problem, if you want to keep your partitions the same
 size, and only want to format them.
 This is my workaround.
 
 I do not know if you have ever used Partition Magic?
 That would make my story more clear...
 Sometimes, after experimenting with sizes, you learn, that sizes better
 can be adjusted, to get the room, wherever it is realy needed.
 Especialy when the OS builds realy change, it is nessesary to adjust the
 partitions to the correct size.
 (the why is that the machine is much faster if the systems searchtime is
 shortened. (You can keep drivers and nessesary .exes (windows)And is
 much easier to clean. I noticed that after using no partitions.)
 Not to use seperate partitions is out of the question, for me
 
 Partition Magic, from powerquest, is also thirthparty sw for windows.
 Can be used to: resize, move, delete, create partitions, on a visual basis.
 It counts the transactions, and processes them before starting up,
 when nothing is in use.
 It moves the data, resizes and renames, and that is it.
 Never had a problem with it.

 Partition Magic sometimes needs to be run before the system is loaded
 but changes needs to be set in a running system, that's also not so
 nice. Nevertheless it has quite nice UI, that's true.

 AJ: Maybe it would make sense to have a special image on CD/DVD
 (possibly executable from Linuxrc) that would contain some r/w YaST
 modules, especially the partitioner. Just to tune the system.

 This could also solve our problem installing openSUSE on computers with
 little memory because one could prepare a swap partition before running
 the installation and Linuxrc (installation) offers the possibility to
 enable swap partition by appending a parameter to command-line.

The LiveCD should be able to do this - but that one needs to much
memory for these systems.  Something to look at for the future...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Carlos E. R. schreef:
 
 The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 15:23 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 
 Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been
 needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it
 only 15M, it's your own fault. ;)
 That's not completely true, they are needed with older hardware.
 I doubt that. My oldest hardware is 97/98 and it doesn't need it. Those
 boxes (of mine) have 64MB RAM max, SUSE doesn't even install on that any
 more since 10.0(?).
 
 Question: how many systems out there which have 128MB RAM need a
 separate /boot partition?
 
 The problem is not RAM, but the bios. The bios services are used at first 
 by lilo/boot to read the initial files, and older/buggy bioses simply can 
 not access HD beyond a certain point.
 
 My machine, circa 2001, has some problems with big disks.

The problem started with 10.2.
All the time, from 9 until 10.1, you could use 15M, and two kernels
would easily fit in that partition..
That way i could boot the kernel i wanted, to test it with the hardware..
(The early 10. and 10.1 kernels failed to start-up the powermanager,
which resulted in a constantly noisy rotating fan.)

Now, in 10.2, these sizes are changed, that is the reason that now only
one-and-a-half kernel fits in 15M, now there is only 38% free, to be
correct. 5.9M free, from 15.4M, and symsets and symtypes are added..
We have: initrd:3M, vmlinuz:1,5M vmlinux.gz:2M. Ofcourse grub resides in
/boot.

It is not allways *nessesary* to have a seperate /boot partition, but
works more *clean*

in fact, i am only one cilinder short.
(i am only saying that it would be nice to be able to finetune a nice os
as SuSE is, without taking too much time and risk, that is all...)

Have a nice time ;)

M9.
 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] USB drive formatted with ext3 still mounted with sync

2006-11-27 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Montag, 27. November 2006 14:21 schrieb Jonathon M. Robison:
 What I am finding hard to do is configure the usbdisk to mount with acl
 and user_xattr. I have my usb stick formatted for reiserfs and I use it
 to perform daily backups of /home, but I always have to manually remount
 with the acl and user_xattr options. Any ideas on that?

Use the partitioning module within YaST or add an fstab-entry manually. 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread B . Weber
 AJ: Maybe it would make sense to have a special image on CD/DVD
 (possibly executable from Linuxrc) that would contain some r/w YaST
 modules, especially the partitioner. Just to tune the system.

If I understand you correctly we already have that. In the repair mode
of installation, select other here
(http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/original.php?release=637slide=5) then
select repair installed system then select expert tools this gives
access to the Bootloader and Partitioner modules, and I think others, but
those are the two which it's really useful to use in this way. It lets you
for example re-write grub after windows clobbers it, or to resize your /
partition etc.

_
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Robby (M9.)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
 AJ: Maybe it would make sense to have a special image on CD/DVD
 (possibly executable from Linuxrc) that would contain some r/w YaST
 modules, especially the partitioner. Just to tune the system.
 
 If I understand you correctly we already have that. In the repair mode
 of installation, select other here
 (http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/original.php?release=637slide=5) then
 select repair installed system then select expert tools this gives
 access to the Bootloader and Partitioner modules, and I think others, but
 those are the two which it's really useful to use in this way. It lets you
 for example re-write grub after windows clobbers it, or to resize your /
 partition etc.

Yes it looks that way, until you try and use the partitioner for real,
than you notice what fails...
But the most part is allright, just when the *real* job has to be done,
 the overvieuw is missing, that is all...

M9.
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

 Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
 patch then :) ;)

 
 Yes - I would like to have ability to do *traffic limiting* - IP
 tables already supports that and I think it could be done at the GUI
 level (in Yast). the only problem is that iptables limits IP packets
 (they are variable size), and I would like to be able to limit with
 bytes-per-second criteria. Is that doable?
 
 I would like to be able to configure lmits for both upload  download
 rates. Also I think that Firewall module is the correct place to do
 that.
 
 This is needed when working in LAN environment, with single shared
 Internet connection,  so that you won't steal all the Internet
 bandwidth from your parents/friends/colleagues. (At Home/LAN
 party/Work). Unfortunately, not all Routers can do that.

YaST Firewall is only an UI for configuring
/etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2. All features, that are configurable via
that sysconfig file could be configured in YaST (not all features are
supported now, of course).

The only traffic limiting can be set up in FW_HTB_TUNE_DEV variable. It
configures upstream using HTB (Hierarchical Token Bucket),
http://www.lartc.org, and it uses unit kbit/s.

Adding lnussel as a developer/maintainer of SuSEfirewall2.

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[opensuse-factory] /usr/X11R6/lib/libdpstk.so.1 lacks

2006-11-27 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
Trying to start a Cad system, results in the following error message on 
10.1 as a first installation attempt:


error while loading shared libraries: libdpstk.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

As far as I know this be located as /usr/X11R6/lib/libdpstk.so.1

Where can I find libdpstk.so.1 for 10.1 and 10.2, i386 and x86_64?

And shouldn't this X11 library be part of the standard openSUSE 
installation?


Rgds,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Stan Glasoe wrote:
 On Monday November 27 2006 11:04 am, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.

 Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
 patch then :) ;)

 Thanks
 Lukas
 
 Ability to read/write Firewall Builder files?

Nice idea, but I'm afraid, this would be too much. On the other hand,
some kind of import might be possible, SuSEfirewall2 also supports more
detailed configuration of rules, e.g:

FW_SERVICES_ACCEPT_EXT, _INT, _DMZ(source network, protocol, source
port, destination port)
FW_FORWARD (source network, destination network, protocol, port, flags)
or even FW_CUSTOMRULES (too expert)

See /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Pascal Bleser wrote:
 What do you think ? 
 I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
 FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
 then on #suse (IRC).
 
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.
 
 Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a
 patch then :) ;)

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg00262.html

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:04 +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
 Pascal Bleser wrote:
  What do you think ? 
  
  I'd rather vote for enhancing the firewall module ;)
  FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and
  then on #suse (IRC).
 
 I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but
 it would be nice to hear what exactly users need.
 

IPv6 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-27 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 10:26 +0100, Jiri Srain wrote:
 Hi!
 
 On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:35, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
  Hi all !
 
  As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I
  would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules
  that I would like to see:
 
  1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files  partitions)
  2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd)
  3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh)
  4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh)
  5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX  Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects)
 
 Before you start writing any new module, please, get in touch with someone 
 from the YaST team in SUSE in order to check that the module is notbeing 
 developed by us and won't appear in next Alpha snapshot ;-) AFAIK FTP server 
 module is already being developed (but don't know the state of it ATM). SSH 
 server module is being used as example in the YaST tutorial.
 

Any plans for:
-NIC-bonding?
-VLAN-config
-Asterisk configuration (zaptel, chan-capi, chan-iax )


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Re: [opensuse-factory] discussion about re-naming library packages such as slang to libslang

2006-11-27 Thread Andreas Hanke
Some clarifications:

 The current policy is that the RPM package names should be identical to
 the basename of the upstream tarball unless there is a technical reason
 why it cannot be named this way.

Examples of technical reasons include:

- Multiple versions of a package are shipped, in this case only the name
of one version can match the upstream tarball, all other versions get a
shortened form of the version number squeezed into the package name.

- The upstream release name contains illegal characters.

 I'm _strongly_ against renaming existing packages for reasons other than
 a technical problem which requires the package to be renamed.

This should read:

Discussing new rules is of course interesting and fine, but if a new
naming policy is agreed on as a result of this, it should be applied to
new packages only. Existing packages should not be renamed unless they
either change their meaning or there are packaging changes which force
changing the name.

The technical problems with renamed packages are:

- The package manager somehow has to know that the new package replaces
the old package. This is usually solved via Provides/Obsoletes, but it
pollutes the namespace: An obsoleted package name can effectively never
be re-introduced again, and even the slightest mistake in this area can
have very interesting results.

- YaST contains hardcoded package lists in several places which don't
work with Provides, but only with the real package names, so renamed
packages can only be handled by changing the code and nobody can
guarantee that all occurances of obsolete packages are found and cought
in time.

- 3rd party developers use the existing package names to express
dependencies (Requires/BuildRequires), changes in this area result in
very ugly %if/%else blocks that make the spec files harder to read and
maintain. These cannot be fixed as easily as the ones in the
distribution. If the 3rd party developer doesn't notice the change, the
package gets broken.

Note that I do think your proposal has advantages, but in order to be
really useful, it would require major packaging changes. As an example,
how would you handle a package that contains both shared libraries and
executables?

Debian-derived distributions have a policy to split all such packages so
that the executables are in a package named like the upstream release
and a library package that gets a lib prefix and a suffix based on the
interface version of the shared library.

This is an advantage because it means you can have an arbitrary number
of different library versions installed, but requires much more
packaging work. You would have to update the BuildRequires of all
packages all the time, and you would have to manually keep the package
name in sync with the interface version with each upgrade. It's painful,
I predict it won't work and for a centrally developed distribution it's
not really necessary.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] /usr/X11R6/lib/libdpstk.so.1 lacks

2006-11-27 Thread Juan Erbes

2006/11/27, Terje J. Hanssen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Trying to start a Cad system, results in the following error message on
10.1 as a first installation attempt:

error while loading shared libraries: libdpstk.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

As far as I know this be located as /usr/X11R6/lib/libdpstk.so.1

Where can I find libdpstk.so.1 for 10.1 and 10.2, i386 and x86_64?

And shouldn't this X11 library be part of the standard openSUSE
installation?



The last package that has this librarie, is xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-35.1.i586.rpm
http://rpmseek.com/rpm/xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-35.1.i586.html?hl=comcs=libdpstk.so.1:FN:3,4,5:11,38,43,44,45,66:0:0:2011764
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: congratulations...

2006-11-27 Thread Juan Erbes

2006/11/26, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

jdd a écrit :
 I want to congratulate the openSUSE 10.2 developpers, because I'm on the
 way of installing the RC1 on a very low end machine

 http://fr.opensuse.org/Utilisateur:Jdd/alb/La_Mouette

finally the install goes well and gnome run quite well.

I mention it because it's very interesting to have an
uptodate OS running on a 7 years old computer.



How high is the capacity of the installed ram in La_Mouette

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Re: [opensuse-factory] bcm43xxx on Asus A2D Laptop

2006-11-27 Thread Sid Boyce

Martin Schlander wrote:

Mandag 27 november 2006 15:39 skrev Stanislav Brabec:

Peter Buschbacher wrote:

bcm43xx: Error: Microcode bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not available or load
failed.

Known problem:

[Bug 204826] Bcm43xx driver needs non-oss firmware
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204826


I haven't tested the scripts that should be available in factory now. But I 
extracted firmware with fwcutter manually and my bcm4306 works like a charm 
with (K)NetworkManager, wpa-personal and everything. 


Life's a lot better than it was using Ndiswrapper.

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Coincidentally, a friend came across the same problem on a HP 64-bit 
laptop yesterday and finally got it going with fwcutter.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Why openSUSE 10.2 RC1 DVD-iso size is much smaller than BETA2 size ?

2006-11-27 Thread Alexey Eremenko

On 11/27/06, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alexey Eremenko schrieb:
 I have downloaded openSUSE 10.2 RC1 DVD ISO and it takes just 3.6
 Gigabytes vs. 4.2 Gigabytes for BETA2 DVD ISO !

 Why is this ?

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-11/msg00739.html

(whole thread)

The DVD being smaller than 4 GB is a feature.



Ahh and a nice one. I really prefer to store all my data (including
ISOs) on FAT32 partitions to have access from Windows too.

So the half-gig went to Lang-CD. OK I agree with that even through I
use Russian myself as a secondary language.
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[opensuse-factory] K3B as root cant find growisofs

2006-11-27 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi,

In openSUSE 10.2RC1 when I run K3B as root it can't find growisofs? When run 
with normal user privileges K3B runs OK.

Is there now (10.2RC1) a need to run K3B as root?

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