Re: [osdcmy] Dell Inspiron 14 with Ubuntu 11.10 is RM1699
Now, how many will buy and and install pirated windows on it :p On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: finally, dell shipped with ubuntu has arrived in malaysia i wished this had came out 2 months ago ! 3rd gen intel i5 + 4gb ddr3 with ubuntu 11.10 http://www.dell.com/my/p/inspiron-14-3420/pd.aspx?dgc=EMcid=33217lid=783239acd=1059562071288142,BMN5SOV-3MANF-3O0QUJ-YJBMD-JHCTU-v1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Dell Inspiron 14 with Ubuntu 11.10 is RM1699
Time to work on software freedom day, if there is any. If we can get dell to sponsor this as a presents for competition On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: haiya not so pessimistic and cynical lah after 1 month on windows7 and office starter... i am beginning to get tired on the computer. early this morning had to uninstall mcafee anti virus as it kept preventing me from getting connected to the internet. then had to download and install ms security essentials. did you know that ms office starter does not include powerpoint nor does excel have freeze pane ;p . then had to download and install libreoffice. i cant even imagine the tiresome process of downloading and installing and configuring all the wimp parts to get drupal7 on this ultrabook. how i wished i still had sudo apt-get install drupal7 On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Now, how many will buy and and install pirated windows on it :p On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: finally, dell shipped with ubuntu has arrived in malaysia i wished this had came out 2 months ago ! 3rd gen intel i5 + 4gb ddr3 with ubuntu 11.10 http://www.dell.com/my/p/inspiron-14-3420/pd.aspx?dgc=EMcid=33217lid=783239acd=1059562071288142,BMN5SOV-3MANF-3O0QUJ-YJBMD-JHCTU-v1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Something to be proud of - Facebook bought Malaysian talent
Don't forget the recent evidence act, and a proposal to amend the multimedia act. I think they are scaring away investor for the IT sector! Especially the way certain minister talk On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: question? do those who are supposed to lead/guide us in Technology, really understand/promote technology, or they are more like bureaucrats? answer: they seem to be spending more effort in bureaucracy, than on technology.. re: the NCPB. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Question is does MOSTI or name of agencies withheld know this? The best web-scrapers (not that i know what it means) in the world were living in Malaysia and Facebook spotted them and bought them as the 3rd FB aquisition. This explains our index rankings of late. On 8/10/12 10:22 AM, Azrul MADISA wrote: This is 2010? On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: That Facebook bought a Malaysian startup in 2010 just to get those brains in that company? http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/19/octazen-what-the-heck-did-facebook-just-buy-exactly-and-why/ This makes me so proud. red1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Re: JEMPUTAN SEBAGAI PEMBENTANG DI SESI EKSKLUSIF CIO - BENGKEL SELF RELIANCE PROGRAM OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE (OSS) SEKTOR AWAM FASA III - SIRI 3
+100 They don't get it and never will. For example IP(from what I see on your photo)? seriously we don't really care about IP. Legal battle revolve around that slow us down. And roadmap? seriously? On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:59 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: ** Geng, Original Message Subject: Re: JEMPUTAN SEBAGAI PEMBENTANG DI SESI EKSKLUSIF CIO - BENGKEL SELF RELIANCE PROGRAM OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE (OSS) SEKTOR AWAM FASA III - SIRI 3 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:53:30 +0800 From: Redhuan r...@adempiere.orgr...@adempiere.org To: mncc-oss-...@googlegroups.com I think we should brainstorm more often together (while blasting away on four pistons) as i do not think our pitch yesterday sinks in or far. It is better we make a proper presentation as a powerful think tank collectively, to the right office such as KSU and then PM, and collect momentos of 'skull tatoos' along the way. I like to share what a friend working somewhere up in KLCC Towers who wrote to me a moment ago: Nor Bahgia B M Nordin: I think anything creative futuristic or game changing breakthrough spearheaded by government servants will fail due to their multiple KPI mentality, and other restrictions. Entreprenurs/Technopreneurs/Scientist have a ‘no-choice’ ‘do-or-die’ situation, which drives them to do the impossible. It’s a intense single minded focus. Jobs, Gates, Page and the rest never wasted their time with the government types. They just went ahead and did what they were supposed to do regardless. I can tell you this. The road-maps will just collect dust again. On 7/31/12 9:35 AM, Abu Mansur wrote: Will need to you to run thru my presso. I didn't do any thesis on this... ;-) 2012/7/30 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte yeohe...@gmail.com How can I assist? 2012/7/30 Abu Mansur rajamu...@gmail.com Gang FYI... :-) Mansur -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Python Malaysia Meetup July 2012, Change of Venue
Hi All We have changed our venue for Python Malaysia Meetup 28th July 2012 . From Mindvalley Bangsar to iTrain Developer Playground behind Bank of China building. The time of the even is the same. The address of the new venue is iTrain, Unit E-9-1 Block E, Megan Avenue 1, 50400 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Because there will be a 2 other event happening there.Where starting from 11am to 1pm will have Code Android Meetup, then from 1-3pm python.my and from 3pm onward, will be Devops user group meetup. We recommend that all participant of this event join all the 3 meetup. As usual, the contact in case you get lost is email: swees...@gmail.com phone: 016 206 5780 (sweemeng -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Python Malaysia Meetup May 2012
We have another Python Malaysia meetup on 26th May 2012. This is our monthly meetup held in various venue. This time, it is held in Menara UOA bangsar, just beside the Bangsar LRT Station. The event will have talk that revolve around python programming language, and the tools that use with or build on python, and networking session for people that uses python. http://www.eventbrite.com/event/3414166865 P.S I'm Still finding speaker for this meetup.. -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] UK Gov gores open source
What I am saying that, the govt tend to NOT use the new technology, like most big organization in Malaysia. And it is already pretty bad, that the policy maker don't have the knowledge, but having a vendor mentality is not helping in the adoption of technology in govt. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Swee Meng, r u saying that the ,net and Java groupies use nosql? I think not. What that report also says is that the UK gov is not 'afraid' to use new technologies, that offer real advantages vs the 'safe' staples like ,net, java that perpetuate their own interests, not the clients. Also its to 'feed' the hordes of ofifcially certified .net, java engineers. My opinion is, government SHOULD use non-conventional technology, like Ruby, Scala, Python, no/new SQL (note: these are NOT 'bleeding edge' technologies but have been well proven in industry, its just that its Open Source and NOT part of the commercial mainstream ). Why? because: 1. they offer real advantages over the conventional stuff, especially 'speed of development'... the real techies knows this, so theres not need to talk about this here... 2. the Government SHOULD act as the catalyst to upgrade and guide the industry, to meet the social economic goals. By using government IT projects, to drive standards and adoption of technology. Something which I doubt the local private sector would do, they want to play 'safe'. 3. finding human and technical resources, will be hard, leading to See Mengs comments: hard to hire and hard to fire. This is a 'chicken egg' problem, perhaps the gov should solve this by providing the 'egg', ie: by creating the demand for such skills/resources and the market may follow by supplying them. Sure, its not going to be easy, it will take more time, it may cost more. (But the gov wastes a lots of money anyway... like the Natnl Feedlot Project!, how many IT Projects would that have supported?). By adopting more productive non-conventional technology using Gov IT projects as the vehicle, the Gov can create a new, dynamic globally competitive SW development industry and meet social economic goals. Thus the gov. can act as an agent for change, by boot-straping' and vitalising the SW industry. Yes, changes are going to be a bit difficult in the beginning, and there will be winners and losers. The winners being a more competitive and dynamic SW industry with a healthy divesified eco-system, instead of one dominated by a handful of players. I'm not advocating getting rid of Java, it has its place in big-iron legacy projects. But when developing service orientated Web portals and docuement management systems, there are better tools. OF course to do so, the Gov requires enlightened and capable leadership... rather than bureaucrats that take the easy way out and listen to their vendors On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:18 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: A lil observation I made, those that will do Govt websites(contractor or not) tend to not use technology like rails and mongodb, and scala. In fact, outside the developer community here(which I say is really a small number), not many will use anything not .net or java or php and nosql. If a person were to choose a stack to use in a(any) software project for malaysia, chances is, rails and mongodb will not be a choice, it is hard to hire and hard to fire, despite the advantages technically. Those that will use it, tend to be geeks, which will not work in this type of project anyway, for reason that we know but shall not talk about. And we are the minority of software developer in malaysia anyway, the one that love anything that is not java or .net or nosql On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:18 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Bit slow from here to access M'sian gov.my. Must be due to heavy old grafix used. Can anyone propose to the PM's Office for the needed upgrade? Greetings from São Paulo, Brazil. On 2/5/12 11:33 AM, hadri hilmi wrote: It looks very clean https://www.gov.uk/ Oh my gov http://www.malaysia.gov.my -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http
Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal
It is a big deal if you rely on US based payment provider, which include paypal, visa/mastercard for payment for your site. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Azrul MADISA azrulha...@gmail.com wrote: What's in it for Malaysians? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote: Kita tak perlukan SOPA. Norman sorang pun dah cukup :) On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Fight For The Future i...@fightforthefuture.org Date: 19 Jan 2012 14:36 Subject: Unreal To: linuxmalay...@gmail.com Today was nuts, right? Google launched a petition. Wikipedia voted to shut itself off. Senators' websites went down just from the sheer surge of voters trying to write them. NYC and SF geeks had protests that packed city blocks. You made history today: nothing like this has ever happened before. Tech companies and users teamed up. Tens of millions of people who make the internet what it is joined together to defend their freedoms. The free network defended itself. Whatever you call it, the bottom line is clear: from today forward, it will be much harder to mess up the internet. The really crazy part? We might even win. Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators publicly opposing PIPA. Last week there were 5. And it just takes just 41 solid no votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate. What seemed like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach. But don't trust predictions. The forces behind SOPA PIPA (mostly movie companies) can make small changes to these bills until they know they have the votes to pass. Members of Congress know SOPA PIPA are unpopular, but they don't understand why--so they're easily duped by superficial changes. The Senate returns next week, and the next few days are critical. Here are two things to think about: 1. Plan on calling your Senator every day next week. Pick up the phone each morning and call your Senators' offices, until they vote no on cloture. If your site participated today, consider running a Call the Senate link all next week. 2. Tomorrow, drop in at your Senators' district offices. We don't have a cool map widget to show you the offices nearest you (we're too exhausted! any takers?). So do it the old fashioned way: use Google, or the phonebook to find the address, and just walk in, say you oppose PIPA, and urge the Senator to vote no on cloture. These drop-in visits make our spectacular online protests more tangible and credible. That's it for now. Be proud and stay on it! --Holmes, Tiffiniy, and the whole Fight for the Future team. ___ P.S. Huge credit goes to participants in the 11/16 American Censorship Day protest: Mozilla, 4chan, BoingBoing, Tumblr, TGWTG, and thousands of others. That's what got this ball rolling! Reddit, both the community and the team behind it, you're amazing. And of course, thanks to the Wikimedians whose patient and inexorable pursuit of the right answer brought them to take world-changing action. Thanks to David S, David K, Cory D, and E Stark for bold action at critical times. P.P.S. If you haven't already, show this video to as many people as you can. It works! http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/ This email was sent to: linuxmalay...@gmail.com To unsubscribe, go to: http://act.fightforthefuture.org/unsubscribe -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: UK Schools to Get Open Source Curriculum ?
If we can just left alone to do the job our self without interference. Or a sign that writes PROFESSIONAL AT WORK, POLITICIAN KEEP OUT On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Boh Heong Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Raja, Happy new year, I always had an iPhone, it's just that it was a 'cracked' 1st generation one, which was stuck with IOs 2.x (since every time you upgrade, it had to be cracked again! I didn't bother; plus I'm not an AppStore junkie. So that old phone seved we well. Then I got iPhone4 (not S), when a relative upgraded to the 4s. It was tied to Maxis, and I am Digi user, so I put off cracking it as I am busy with other things. That was about until 2 weeks ago, then I lost my older iPhone, and was forced to crack the 'new' phone. So I now use that, and have lighttpd and SSHD running on it! Now to find a decent TTY app and then I can ssh into my servers! Then I 'discovered' it had a very good Gmail, and Apple .mac mail app, and set it up with IMAP and both services support push mail so I now do most of my short mails on the iPhone. For long mails or when I need to cut paste stuff, like blocks of logs or code, then I use the notebook. I find 3G good enough for most things and if I need higher bandwidth, Wifi does OK. It moves between wifi and 3G transparently, except in places that you have to log in. If passwords are saved in keychains, then that its really transparent, like with my home wifi. Yes call me a 'caveman'; all that passed me by becos my old iPhone didn't even have 3G! So it was mainly used as a phone/PDA, not a mobile Internet device! And I still do carry my MacBook wherever I go, it's just that I do of pull it out so often. I've been busy lately, involved in a start-up, and doing the MDeC, Cradle merry go round. Got a chance to talk to some real silicon valley experts (VC, angels, founders, not some local wannabes), thru Innotech Malaysia, Silicon Valley comes to Malaysia events. Really inspiring, hence the disappointment in seeing the 'impedence mismatch(contradiction)' in policies and strategy between those events and stupid policy on edu, and now the BCPM! How to achieve ETP(economic transformation program), let alone achieve it by 2020? Regds. Boh Sent from my iPhone. On 12/01/2012, at 4:03 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: Boh, you have an iPhone now ? On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Boh Heong Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: If only our gov. edu institutions are so enlightened! Can they make a U-turn after heading down the wrong direction for so long? And now with Sc. Tech. Ministry also seeming to go the wrong way; with the CPB, will Malaysia be less and less competitive in the global economy? Will we be ...left behind in the e-dust of the K-economy? Regds. Boh Sent from my iPhone. On 11/01/2012, at 3:17 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: More stuff happening in the UK http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/series/digital-literacy-campaign I wonder if Google could support the articles in the upcoming Koperasi magazine ? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/jan/11/michael-gove-boring-it-lessons Michael Gove to scrap 'boring' IT lessons Schools to be given freedom to run cutting-edge computer classes under plans for open source curriculum The teaching of computer science in school is to be dramatically overhauled, with the existing programme of study scrapped to make way for new lessons designed by industry and universities, Michael Govehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/michaelgove will announce on Wednesday. In a speech, the education secretary will say the existing curriculum in Information and Communication Technology (ICT) has left children bored out of their minds being taught how to use Word and Excel by bored teachers. Instead he will, in effect, create an open source curriculum in computer science by giving schoolshttp://www.guardian.co.uk/education/schools the freedom to use teaching resources designed with input from leading employers and academics, in changes that will come into effect this September. The announcement follows pressure from businesses critical of a shortage of computer-literate recruitshttp://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/jan/09/computer-science-courses-digital-skills – a deficit highlighted by a Guardian campaignhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/education/series/digital-literacy-campaign launched this week. ICT will remain compulsory and will still be taught at every stage of the curriculum. In a speech to BETThttp://bettshow.com/bett/website/Default.aspx?refer=1, a trade fair which showcases educational technology, Gove will say Britain should revive the legacy of the mathematician and wartime codebreaker Alan Turing http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/alan-turing by creating a generation of young
[osdcmy] Compiling Python On Android
https://github.com/kivy/python-for-android This is a process for compiling python on android, with a java bootstrap for the opengl es stuff running on java -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] The CPB2011 Discussion
So for education, to extend on kage's idea Community outreach program, i.e user groups have activity to campuses, microsoft already have that, need the mostly open source people to do it. I wonder where do we start(I already lost contact with the admins in my alma mater). Though ucti and utp can start already. Though is there other professional group that do that? On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail kagesenshi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, cheeleong klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: It is just stupid. We don't need alternative for that. We don't need that at all. They got their brains fucked. i think they meant that if we can provide something that will help in reaching the goals they stated the CPB was for .. my take on it ... when it comes to education, help campuscamp and similar projects :-) .. the real problem of ICT graduate imo is not exactly lack of skill, but the root of the problem is lack of interest. And its not just the students, the lecturers too are lacking in interests of their own field, not willing to move forward. Regards, CL Chow Using Gmail? Please read this important notice: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/jstrap/gmail?8483 On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:25 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: sweemeng swees...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:24 AM Subject: [osdcmy] The CPB2011 Discussion To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com https://docs.google.com/document/d/14E05jHZKQA0y6rP07n2PYtR4obBLEpiiK7OO1iQQ0PA/edit?hl=en_US On Tuesday we already have a questionnaire called the common voice of ICT. Which already highlight some of the point. One of the thing Haris have done is, to collect opinion on facebook group to be compiled(I believe) and hopefully mosti able get notice. The discussion is at https://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/?notif_t=group_activity Also mosti would kill the bill(they say), if we can provide an alternative. So what else to add on top of the questionnaire that we sent? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups python.my group. To post to this group, send email to pytho...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pythonmy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pythonmy?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups python.my group. To post to this group, send email to pytho...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pythonmy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pythonmy?hl=en. -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail / KageSenshi Inigo Consulting (FOSS/Plone Development, Training Services) http://www.inigo-tech.com Fedora Malaysia Contributor Ambassador http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups python.my group. To post to this group, send email to pytho...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pythonmy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pythonmy?hl=en. -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Re: Serious Flaws of the Computer Professionals Bill,
That and 1) What type of certification? Is it ala CCNA? or MSCE? If so does it mean a lot of open source project are not allowed to be used 2) Even if CNII is just govt, so does it mean that individual cannot contribute to open source project it use? I.E it covers Info Comm. So hypothetically we as a malaysian cannot contribute to apache web server, and the Big G do have sites that uses apache, fyi 3) So as we register a skill, how granular is it? In python web development, we are usually need to handle multiple role. If we modify wsgi script? Do we tell them we know networking etc? If we are to work in CNII, and it depends on how granular it is. On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I am reposting this on its own separate thread, with changes to correct typos. (Its the same as the one in the other thread...) Feel free to comment and use its points... Critique of the points in the Bill == After reading thru the contents of the bill, it seems to be thrown together without deep thought or sufficient discussion. The objective of setting up such a Board seems to be primarily to register parties so that they can be eligible to handle CNII Projects. The definition of CNII itself is very vague and dubious. For this to stand up to scrutiny of law, the definition has to be very clear, with precise definitions and exclusions, with such a definition amounting to pages, not just ONE SENTENCE! And since this bill hinges on the definition of NCII, and since this definition is not clear, then this bill has little relevance! The justification for the Bill also display a lack of inputs from those actually practicing n the industry. The fact is that the technology changes so fast, and its adoption can be equally fast, and attempt to certify/regulate it via conventional bureaucratic means is impractical, either that or it will lead to stifling of knowledge and innovation, leaving Malaysia's behind in the globally competitive field of IT! IT is driven almost purely by its IP-based nature, where ideas and knowledge are the real capital, not goods, machinery and equipment. Having to be certified (to seek permission!) in order to learn, 'play with it' and use it will serious slow innovation, soemthing Malaysia can hardly afford in a globally competitive world! (re: Scenario below) Lastly it is not quite clear what the role of the Board that is suppose to be setup IS! Is it (just) going to be a registry for parties wanting to bid for CNII jobs, or is it trying to be a professional body, like the MMA (for doctors), Bar Council (for lawyers) etc... It seems like it is trying to be a bit of both! As a professional body, the professionals that are involved should have more say; ie: the Board should not be ALL APPOINTEES but rather IT Professionals voted in by their peers. Its should also play a more strategic and perhaps even operational role to improve the standards and business opportunities of its members through business development activities and interaction with other like professional bodies overseas. If its just a registry, there there is no need to set up a board, just let a government department (MOSTI?) handle it, much like the registry for bumiputra companies bidding for government projects handled by the Treasury. Let the funds that would go towards supporting such a board be put to actual use in encouraging innovation in IT (see 7. below) Scenario: fictitious but very possible (or why the Bill seriously hampers innovation) --- Google invents a new programming language (and tools) that leverages off its cloud infrastructure, and this language makes it highly productive to develop new applications that utilises very large databases. And they release this as Open Source. Overnight, a Malaysian programmer with the interest and underlying skills, can immediately download the software, access the documentation and start learning and experimenting with it. Within 2 weeks, he has gained sufficient proficiency with it and starts developing an application with it. Within 2-3 months he may have a prototype application running, demonstrating very viable and unique capabilities. Suddenly a CNII Project puts up a tender, say for Public Health, where his project has relevance (a good example would be to develop a National Database for every citizen's Health Record, such a project has been suggested the 'Lifelong Health Record' but never actualised). This programmer CANNOT participate because: i he personally may not be registered ii the software that he uses and the skills he has developed are not certifiable, its too NEW, and no one else in Malaysia has the capability to do so. So he gives up in frustration, takes his application to Silicon Valley, where investors welcome him with open arms, within 32 months his company with 100 staff
Re: [osdcmy] Looking for Python-Django developer
spam_alert Off topic, meet python geeks, in Febuary, while there is a python malaysia meetup in febuary. /spam_alert On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: maybe there's a geek in there trying to get out of a bureaucrat's suit? I mean that in a good way of course...;-) On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: rafe, seriously ? On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:37 PM, azs...@gmail.com azs...@gmail.comwrote: Can i apply? What the package like? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim ihsan.juna...@gmail.com To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [osdcmy] Looking for Python-Django developer Date: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 11:45 pm Hi folks, As per titled. Permanent assignment for a local startup. Preferably 1-2 years experience in building/maintaining cross-platform Python, Django apps and Javascript/HTML/CSS stuffs. Some basic networking knowledge as we're into network routing IPv6 stuff. We're not just limited to Python and all that stuff so as systems developer, we do expect some good grasp of fundamental programming paradigm across languages. We're not picky though but we do expect good working and learning attitude. It's a startup so expect to do a lot of other things that eventually (with the right attitude) make you really good in the resume. :) Email me directly. p.s: We really need a osdcmy-job group list. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Python Malaysia Meetup Sept
We have another Python Malaysia Meetup this month, at Fluentspace, a coworking space in PJ. Date: 24th Sept 2011 Time: 11:00 AM - 2:00 PM Address: 50M-3 50N-3 Kelana Mall, Jalan SS 6/14, 47301 Petaling Jaya, Malaysia This is made possible by Firdaus, which help get the space, and Kamal that allow us to use his space. Anyone that interest to give a talk, send me a email, I will arrange it. Just make sure it is python related. -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: [SFD-announce] SFD 2011 registration is LIVE!!!
nice, if i get a leave, i will be there On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:52 PM, linuxmalaysia linuxmalay...@gmail.comwrote: Team I need to bring this up again so we do not miss the date. http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Malaysia/Kuala%20Lumpur/OSDCMY Venue Universiti Kuala Lumpur www.unikl.edu.my Date Wednesday, 21 Sept 2011 Time From 9.00 PM to 4:30 PM Schedule(This is just Idea like last year): - 09:00 - Checking in - 09:30 - Welcoming + Lightning Talk - 10.00 - Presentation by Eric Yeoh - 11.00 - Slide 2 - 12.00 - Slide 3 - 01:00 - Lunch/social networking/gathering - 02:00 - Let Party!!! Will be a Lucky Draw (SFD Tshirt Limited Edition) TODO :- Registration form Budget PM : Fazli ? You OK ke nak lead banyak menda 20 21 tu. TQ. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] What Programming Language you start with? The one youlearn the logic and flow of programming
More of a concern of what happen since then in Malaysia. Not expecting school to teach everything. My experience on CS education in Malaysia on the other hand, is the same as the opinions on many post on such a topic in OSDC.my list. The only issue with education here is, probably in many other place too. Is that we don't teach how to learn, On Jul 31, 2011 12:56 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:05 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Make me wonder what happen with Computer Education in Malaysia Do you think it's a problem with Computer Education in Malaysia? I think it's a benefit of the IT field, and programming specifically. My reason for working in IT is that I must always continue learning. It keeps it interesting. I don't think schools could keep up anyway. It's the same in the US. Schools can't keep up with trends in programming. If they tried, it would be an unstable curriculum, changing course materials every semester. -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] What Programming Language you start with? The one youlearn the logic and flow of programming
Make me wonder what happen with Computer Education in Malaysia On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Book, hehehe will be soon. :) Hmm during years 86-89 we do had programming competition between computer clubs around Kuala Lumpur. One day event with schedule like 1) In the morning we had theory exam and quiz about programming language. 2) and another team will write a program base on any language whole day. at the end of the day we compile the teams marks and select the winner from the highest point. we never win but we could meet aweks.. hehehe my school is only a boys only school. On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:42 AM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote: phew...1986?just born that year.hahaha agreed.dont stop learning programming.today we know how to use PHP5,tomorrow maybe PHP6.its something that moving with technology.never be the same. ps:u should make a book bout yourself En Haris.love to read it..:D On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team Start myself with logo in year 1986 and later BASIC. Learn basic assembler during those day to hack my energy and shield for a game. Hehehe Hacking make us to learn programming. Upgrade myself to C during my Diploma study. Had a problem during that day. My C compiler on SVR4 Unix and others are using Windows. Hard for me to share the source. (how Im going to ftp?) During my work at a bank I learn basic Cobol for my work. Yep to adjust certain parameter and automation for my work. I had use NCR9800 VRX/E and DEC VMS. :) I had build a log monitoring using Visual Basic 3 and running it on Windows 3.1 I think. My main love is shell script. Loving doing it. Love to use it to automated daliy jobs. And we have build Documents Management System sharing between branches. The processing and compress with shell scripts and intergrated with HTTPS and htpasswd. Yes we had use Linux as our backend for the web server, ftp server, DNS server and centralize log. Thats during 1999 up to 2004 (the day I resign) With shell script I learn PHP4. Buy a book for dummies and learn from friends. Just for my knowledge. Gila tul buat PHP without framework. My next love is python. Learning its slowly due to my work load with projects. Want to build something with cloud... :) Morale of my story. Don't stop to learn programming. A lot can be learn from any language that you learn and write and compile. --- Team What Programming Language you start with? The one you learn the logic and flow of programming https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=questionid=2322588064704 Its in Facebook QA module. Just for fun. You can answer by reply this email. I never know MIRC have script. Thats good, we can use any lang. to learn programming. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Fwd: [SFD-announce] SFD 2011 registration is LIVE!!!
Hi guys/gals Software Freedom Day registration is up. again on the same time of the year. I really want you guys to do it this time. I have other focus this year. I can help get place, but I also hope that you guys can get a better place. Start a booth? It would be good for all of us to show our commitment, and if done properly we can spread the idea of a Free(dom) Software to Malaysian. Which is one of the goal of the group -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederic Muller - SFI f...@softwarefreedomday.org Date: Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:00 PM Subject: [SFD-announce] SFD 2011 registration is LIVE!!! To: SFD announcements sfd-annou...@sf-day.org, Discussions about planning for SFD (english) planning...@sf-day.org Dear all, This is with a great pleasure (and small delay) that we are announcing registration opening for SFD 2011! In fact some of you have already started to create you wiki pages and participated in the soft opening and registration testing that we started 2 days ago. Most bugs should have been cleared out of the way and I remain available for any problem you may encounter through email or on IRC (#SFD on freenode). Major highlights of the registration rewriting: - I didn't get any help from anyone so it took more time (I am no developer) - UTF-8 support, so all those South-American addresses we used to struggle with because of corrupted letters should be problems of the past - Better SFD Wiki URL check (I'd say 100% reliable now) - Ported to python so I can 'maintain' it now - The form asks for and matches SFD wiki login and email address which will allow you to update map coordinates later (still need to code that update bit) - Fixed Open Street Map marker click offset - Total event count on the global map page - Easy integration with the current web site design, and any design. That will make it easier for others to use it since we said we would release the code (still needs to do some cleanup and documentation writing though) - Saves directly in CSV format making it a lot easier to handle that big file at the end of the registration period. There are still one or two known issues (like the phone number format only gets check on the server side, requiring you to refill the form if you got it wrong - but we're working on it). Hopefully it should make the whole experience better and allow us to fix or improve it based on the feedback we get. A special thanks goes to Charles from Canada who spotted a very annoying address input bug and Jean from Belgium who sent me an extensive report, and all the others who participated. The other news for the year is that we are cash positive again and goodies are in production as we speak. This year we have raised sufficient funds to produce team packs for 200 teams (50% of last year total registered events). I want to particularly thank our sponsors who are making this possible, namely Canonical, Google, Nokia/Qt in China and Linode. We have also attracted more media sponsors this year (from 2 to 5 in total now) where we are running a A4/Letter size ad in the August/September edition for most (some are quarterly magazines). In no specific order those are Linux Magazine (long time partner), Linux Journal (yeah, welcome!), Ubuntu User, Admin Magazine and Smart Developer. And we are still in discussion with 2 or 3 other organizations. This year we also had a lot of back and forth with the Free Software Foundation about the impact of distributing non-free GNU/Linux distributions and pretending 'it is ok'. At the end proprietary software remains proprietary be it an office application or a device driver. Our objective is to educate the world about using high quality free and open source software and that is what we should be doing. This is a long topic and we will get back to it later this summer. Like last year there are about 10 days to goodies deadline (limited to the first 200 teams and Canonical is still providing Ubuntu CDs), so just go create a new team page under http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011 (not continent this year) and fill that form on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py Last but not least I want to thank all the new volunteers who have joined the SFD global marketing team and are helping with global tasks. One of the net outcome has been our new SFD logo for 2011 which we will keep moving forward (thank you David, Jeff and Maxus Singapore) and the multimedia DVD which we have finally managed to make (thank you Diego, Marcos, Pockey). All artworks are available on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Artwork and under a CC-BY license. And happy SFD preparations! Do subscribe to the discuss mailing list[1] if you haven't yet, read SFD Planet [2] read our blog[3] to keep posted (or RSS feed[4] to it). Any question do let us know. The SFI Board ps: do check the SFD 2010 winners for inspiration and thank you to Makerbot and FSF for the prizes.
Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: [SFD-announce] SFD 2011 registration is LIVE!!!
http://softwarefreedomday.org/ this is the official link, the page is usually the wiki. Which changes every year. The page might still be inside. But again that depends on who want to run it. To those that want to run it. Register Early, so that we can get the kit that we can use during the day. Usually cd, sometime t-shirts etc On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Bro. In any promotion thats I will do. I want to credit to the person thats start it. Can I point to any website that related to you and SFD? Thanks. On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:40 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys/gals Software Freedom Day registration is up. again on the same time of the year. I really want you guys to do it this time. I have other focus this year. I can help get place, but I also hope that you guys can get a better place. Start a booth? It would be good for all of us to show our commitment, and if done properly we can spread the idea of a Free(dom) Software to Malaysian. Which is one of the goal of the group -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederic Muller - SFI f...@softwarefreedomday.org Date: Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:00 PM Subject: [SFD-announce] SFD 2011 registration is LIVE!!! To: SFD announcements sfd-annou...@sf-day.org, Discussions about planning for SFD (english) planning...@sf-day.org Dear all, This is with a great pleasure (and small delay) that we are announcing registration opening for SFD 2011! In fact some of you have already started to create you wiki pages and participated in the soft opening and registration testing that we started 2 days ago. Most bugs should have been cleared out of the way and I remain available for any problem you may encounter through email or on IRC (#SFD on freenode). Major highlights of the registration rewriting: - I didn't get any help from anyone so it took more time (I am no developer) - UTF-8 support, so all those South-American addresses we used to struggle with because of corrupted letters should be problems of the past - Better SFD Wiki URL check (I'd say 100% reliable now) - Ported to python so I can 'maintain' it now - The form asks for and matches SFD wiki login and email address which will allow you to update map coordinates later (still need to code that update bit) - Fixed Open Street Map marker click offset - Total event count on the global map page - Easy integration with the current web site design, and any design. That will make it easier for others to use it since we said we would release the code (still needs to do some cleanup and documentation writing though) - Saves directly in CSV format making it a lot easier to handle that big file at the end of the registration period. There are still one or two known issues (like the phone number format only gets check on the server side, requiring you to refill the form if you got it wrong - but we're working on it). Hopefully it should make the whole experience better and allow us to fix or improve it based on the feedback we get. A special thanks goes to Charles from Canada who spotted a very annoying address input bug and Jean from Belgium who sent me an extensive report, and all the others who participated. The other news for the year is that we are cash positive again and goodies are in production as we speak. This year we have raised sufficient funds to produce team packs for 200 teams (50% of last year total registered events). I want to particularly thank our sponsors who are making this possible, namely Canonical, Google, Nokia/Qt in China and Linode. We have also attracted more media sponsors this year (from 2 to 5 in total now) where we are running a A4/Letter size ad in the August/September edition for most (some are quarterly magazines). In no specific order those are Linux Magazine (long time partner), Linux Journal (yeah, welcome!), Ubuntu User, Admin Magazine and Smart Developer. And we are still in discussion with 2 or 3 other organizations. This year we also had a lot of back and forth with the Free Software Foundation about the impact of distributing non-free GNU/Linux distributions and pretending 'it is ok'. At the end proprietary software remains proprietary be it an office application or a device driver. Our objective is to educate the world about using high quality free and open source software and that is what we should be doing. This is a long topic and we will get back to it later this summer. Like last year there are about 10 days to goodies deadline (limited to the first 200 teams and Canonical is still providing Ubuntu CDs), so just go create a new team page under http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011 (not continent this year) and fill that form on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py Last but not least I want
[osdcmy] Some links on python and programming in general
For those that want to learn python , it covers quite a lot of thing http://www.awaretek.com/tutorials.html This is a list of useful django projects and a few that might be useful to those doing web app in general http://elweb.co/programacion/33-projects-that-make-developing-django-apps-awesome/?s=hn http://nodebeginner.org/index.html and this is not python, it is node,js book -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://blog.mosc.my/ and http://www.mosc.my/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Barcamp KL MMU is up
As I have annouced not too long ago, we planning to have a barcamp in Multimedia University in Cyberjaya. We invite community to come together and share knowledge and idea. Since this time it is organized by their IT student, the theme is more tech in nature. The official page is up, inside will be a registration form http://barcamp.org/w/page/41679959/Barcamp-KL-2011-%28Cyberjaya%29 -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://blog.mosc.my/ and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011
[osdcmy] Python Malaysia June Meetup
We will have a Python Meetup / Overnight Code Sprints on Google App Engine. On 18 - 19 June 2011 at F-Secures Office in KL. This meetup is held in collaboration with F-Secure and GTUG KL This python meetup have a guest from Google, Ikai Lan, from the Google Developer Programs group. We will start with a talk and ends with a overnight Code Sprint, in F-Secure office. Along with Python Code Sprint on App Engine, we will also have Android Sprint that will be done along side of this, as this sprint will have a Android component too. Speaker Bio: Ikai Lan is a software engineer working for the Developer Programs groups at Google, Inc. Prior to Google, he worked as a software engineer building social applications at LinkedIn and a systems integration consultant delivering VoIP applications at Citrix Systems. Ikai is an avid technologist, consuming volumes of material about new programming languages, framework or service. In his free time, he enjoys the California outdoors, winning Chinese language karaoke contests and playing flag football. He resides in San Francisco, CA, where he watches in anguish as his favorite professional sports teams implode season after season. Schedule: Saturday - 10:00 : Talk by Ikai Lan - 11:00 : Talk by App Engine usage by Senior Engineer at F-Secure - 13:00 : Hackathon Start till next day Sunday - 10:00 : Hackathon end - 13:00 : Presentation start - 16:00 : We're done -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011
[osdcmy] Re: Python Malaysia June Meetup
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=150105768396084 http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=150105768396084Facebook event page On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:25 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: We will have a Python Meetup / Overnight Code Sprints on Google App Engine. On 18 - 19 June 2011 at F-Secures Office in KL. This meetup is held in collaboration with F-Secure and GTUG KL This python meetup have a guest from Google, Ikai Lan, from the Google Developer Programs group. We will start with a talk and ends with a overnight Code Sprint, in F-Secure office. Along with Python Code Sprint on App Engine, we will also have Android Sprint that will be done along side of this, as this sprint will have a Android component too. Speaker Bio: Ikai Lan is a software engineer working for the Developer Programs groups at Google, Inc. Prior to Google, he worked as a software engineer building social applications at LinkedIn and a systems integration consultant delivering VoIP applications at Citrix Systems. Ikai is an avid technologist, consuming volumes of material about new programming languages, framework or service. In his free time, he enjoys the California outdoors, winning Chinese language karaoke contests and playing flag football. He resides in San Francisco, CA, where he watches in anguish as his favorite professional sports teams implode season after season. Schedule: Saturday - 10:00 : Talk by Ikai Lan - 11:00 : Talk by App Engine usage by Senior Engineer at F-Secure - 13:00 : Hackathon Start till next day Sunday - 10:00 : Hackathon end - 13:00 : Presentation start - 16:00 : We're done -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Linux For System Z, any experience on it?
NO, the Z series have a long tradition. It started 40 years ago as system 360. And it is said the proprietary OS have some of their code since that time, and it is said that it can runs program written since then. Imagine, during 1960's they have invented Paravirtualization, and a series of stuff that is way ahead of their competition during that time. Disclaimer, I only used their proprietary OS long time ago, no linux though, good old days On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:08 PM, mohd fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com wrote: AIX right? Same with system p? Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2011, at 5:43 PM, JuStZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, just want to know, if there anyone experience Linux on IBM system Z, its a mainframe and what i been told also read, it have a different from linux architecture and usagekindly if anyone can share cheers ;) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Linux For System Z, any experience on it?
The bank tend to use the Z series as something like a Big Database, the thinking tend to be very different. As the system is optimized for batch processing, and it used to be it need a bridge to support tcp/ip not quite sure if it still need it. and one more interesting is, they have hardware supported IO, so it is very optimized for that too. On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:12 PM, JaZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: nope, IBM Z, mainframe huhu On 27 May 2011 18:08, mohd fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com wrote: AIX right? Same with system p? Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2011, at 5:43 PM, JuStZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, just want to know, if there anyone experience Linux on IBM system Z, its a mainframe and what i been told also read, it have a different from linux architecture and usagekindly if anyone can share cheers ;) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Regards Ahmad Jazri Hamdan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Linux For System Z, any experience on it?
Good luck with that, please tell me you have access to a Z series? or you actually use hercules for that On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, JaZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: yup2, what i heard that mostly banks using Z as their db server and system...if they already support I/O its easy to me to try for it huhu On 27 May 2011 18:18, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: The bank tend to use the Z series as something like a Big Database, the thinking tend to be very different. As the system is optimized for batch processing, and it used to be it need a bridge to support tcp/ip not quite sure if it still need it. and one more interesting is, they have hardware supported IO, so it is very optimized for that too. On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:12 PM, JaZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: nope, IBM Z, mainframe huhu On 27 May 2011 18:08, mohd fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com wrote: AIX right? Same with system p? Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2011, at 5:43 PM, JuStZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, just want to know, if there anyone experience Linux on IBM system Z, its a mainframe and what i been told also read, it have a different from linux architecture and usagekindly if anyone can share cheers ;) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Regards Ahmad Jazri Hamdan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Regards Ahmad Jazri Hamdan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Linux For System Z, any experience on it?
Actually you can run native linux on it, it just that, last time I am in the bank, they didn't do that On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:17 PM, JaZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: aha, so it stick to Z/os instead of using linux is it? huhu On 27 May 2011 18:14, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: NO, the Z series have a long tradition. It started 40 years ago as system 360. And it is said the proprietary OS have some of their code since that time, and it is said that it can runs program written since then. Imagine, during 1960's they have invented Paravirtualization, and a series of stuff that is way ahead of their competition during that time. Disclaimer, I only used their proprietary OS long time ago, no linux though, good old days On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:08 PM, mohd fenris mohdfen...@gmail.comwrote: AIX right? Same with system p? Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2011, at 5:43 PM, JuStZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, just want to know, if there anyone experience Linux on IBM system Z, its a mainframe and what i been told also read, it have a different from linux architecture and usagekindly if anyone can share cheers ;) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Regards Ahmad Jazri Hamdan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011 -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ Milking the Cloud Competition for MOSC2011 http://www.mosc.my/articles/item/7-milking-the-cloud-competition-for-mosc2011
[osdcmy] Fwd: Python Meetup/Sprint: Continuous Integration in Python Project
-- Forwarded message -- From: sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Python Meetup/Sprint: Continuous Integration in Python Project To: pytho...@googlegroups.com Based on the things that we have done, today, I will call it a day. The sprint officially over, there is no meetup tomorrow. It is been done, the result will be out soon. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:26 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Sweemeng in da house just find the guy with the red cap at coffee bean On May 20, 2011 1:04 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: 016 206 5780 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail kagesenshi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Oh yeah, tomorrow kagesenshi(our host) might be a lil bit late, so we might gather at the mamak nearby in the morning, and it should not be too long. Or maybe mc'ds at subang parade(?). and some breakfast before that dude i think you should leave ur contact number just in case some new guys got lost :) mine : +60172792765 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Marcus mar...@python.my wrote: Fedora? @ liew : i will go to the next door (ucti) and see ... Anyone with UCTI contacts? On 5/19/11 11:10 AM, cheeleong wrote: Very good enough if we want to have some spinoff events :) Regards, CL Chow Using Gmail? Please read this important notice: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/jstrap/gmail?8483 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Jeremy Johnson johnso...@gmail.com wrote: Sweet Marcus, Worth a look. It might be a bit small though, I guess it depends upon the turn out. At the very least we should try to secure it as a fall back plan, in case there is nothing else to be found. Cheers, Jeremy On May 15, 2011, at 2:44 AM, Marcus wrote: That is a must see! So confirm date is 21-22, 10 am. Inigo rite! Btw guys Mimos has agreed to let us have the venue for pycon 2012. It could however only fit say 70-80 in the main room and it has 2 smaller rooms. i am going to do a tour and see if it fits... On 5/11/11 8:50 AM, sweemeng ng wrote: It should be around 10, it probably start around 11, I wish to have it at 9, but we're geek, and it is hard for me to travel down to subang. but Inigo is supportive, so why not. Think of these tools like your automated test machine, not just it runs unit test, and check for errors, it spit out report, produce a dashboard, and give you status report. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Marcus@python godjudgem...@gmail.com wrote: time? I have no idea what Jenkins.Buildbot.Hudson is or are. Is that the new Visual Studio 2011 sharepoint development project ? LOL, just kididng myself. Uptown is a haven of food ;-) i will come to photograph this event and if i find out i could code faster than folks here after understanding whats its all about you can be sure i will start my rant on Wing Ide again! wuhahahha... On May 5, 9:51 pm, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Python Malaysia Meetup/Sprint Topic: Using Continuous Integration With Python Project Location: Inigo Consulting, Subang Date: 21 - 22 May Activity: Hands on Setup, and discussion. The goal of a sprint is, To setup a Continuous Integration(CI) server setup for python development, using Jenkins or Buildbot or Hudson. The idea is, everyone will test a setup of a Continuous Integration server with a project of their own, with either Jenkins or Buildbot or Hudson. From it: - we share what we do on the project, what we test, whether we use tools to help - how to setup with the CI server - what goes wrong, and how to fix this - what stuff we like on the tools - what extra plugin we installed. - in the end of it, we will document the process. and the result on python malaysia site. - that include any surprises during the process Extra stuff to expect from this sprint. - Know way to use the python unittest/unittest2 module - Whether to use testing tools like nose, and how - What kind of test to or can be covered, and how to do it - What kind of plugin to use along site of Jenkins or Buildbot - Maybe some surprises What the requirement from the you guys that want to join - Have A open mind - Willingness to learn - Willingness to share If you don't know how to set one up, we will teach and you can learn during the sprint. If you don't know what I talking about, more reason to join this activity just to learn isn't it :p -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- You received this message because you
Re: [osdcmy] Google Prediction API
Google allow us to access Skynet. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Putting in AI in your application. http://code.google.com/apis/predict/ The Prediction API enables you to make your smart apps even smarter. The API accesses Google's machine learning algorithms to analyze your historic data and predict likely future outcomes. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Google Prediction API
Or you teach a powerful ai battlefield strategy to enslave mankind On May 13, 2011 6:12 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: i wonder if we can dump the historical data of the iraq war, then try to predict the future outcome of the libya invasion ? that would be extremely strategic. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:09 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Google allow us to access Skynet. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Putting in AI in your application. http://code.google.com/apis/predict/ The Prediction API enables you to make your smart apps even smarter. The API accesses Google's machine learning algorithms to analyze your historic data and predict likely future outcomes. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Google Prediction API
You don't need skynet level technology to predict that On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Can it predict when the drained brains return to Malaysia? On 5/13/11 6:52 PM, sweemeng ng wrote: Or you teach a powerful ai battlefield strategy to enslave mankind On May 13, 2011 6:12 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: i wonder if we can dump the historical data of the iraq war, then try to predict the future outcome of the libya invasion ? that would be extremely strategic. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Python sprint
Please come I wish to know how the java community do it too On May 11, 2011 9:38 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Python sprint
Today was chatting with the gang, a.k.a Kagesenshi and cl chow. also kaeru We decided that, we going to have a sprint in Inigo Consulting, date undecided, it is between May and July. I try to make it soon so that it will not be stale. The goal of a sprint is, To setup a Continuous Integration(CI) server setup for python development, using Jenkins or Buildbot. The idea is, everyone will test a setup of a Continuous Integration server with a project of their own, with either Jenkins and Buildbot. From it: - we share what we do on the project, what we test, whether we use tools to help - how to setup with the CI server - what goes wrong, and how to fix this - what stuff we like on the tools - what extra plugin we installed. - in the end of it, we will document the process. and the result on python malaysia site. - that include any surprises during the process Extra stuff to expect from this sprint. - Know way to use the python unittest/unittest2 module - Whether to use testing tools like nose, and how - What kind of test to or can be covered, and how to do it - What kind of plugin to use along site of Jenkins or Buildbot - Maybe some surprises What the requirement from the you guys that want to join - Have A open mind - Willingness to learn - Willingness to share If you don't know how to set one up, we will teach and you can learn during the sprint. If you don't know what I talking about, more reason to join this activity just to learn isn't it :p Date coming soon -- Just a random living organic computer code generator -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Intuittech Technology Day
Hate to work guys, just share to us what you guys/gals have learn On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, FYI and anyone going? Thanks. -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:28 PM Subject: Intuittech Technology Day To: linuxmalay...@gmail.com linuxmalay...@gmail.com Salam Harris, Please assist to blast invitation to below event to our community friends. The attendance is FOC. Thanks and Regards, Yusz [image: gtalk8] [image: header1] *Key-Notes* [image: Mark Spencer] *Mark Spencer* CTO of Digium and Founder of Asterisk *[image: Ethan Galstaad]* *Ethan Galstaad* Presdident and Founder of Nagios [image: Dato Badlisham Ghazali] *Dato Badlisham Ghazali* CEO MDeC [image: Dato Dr Kamal Jit Singh] *Dato Dr Kamal Jit Singh* CEO Unit Innovasi Khas *Product-Flash* [image: majudalogo][image: majuda] Majuda Corporation, a U.S. based corporation headquartered in Boca Raton, Florida, specializes in the development of call recording and quality management solutions that present organizations of any size with the ability to securely listen, understand and react to the needs of their customers and employees. The value Majuda delivers is the ability to leverage call recording as a secure and regulatory compliant tool to mitigate risk and liability exposure while enhancing call center effectiveness and agent performance. Majuda’s reporting and analysis tools empower clients with the knowledge and insight to improve agent performance, optimize communications resources and increase revenue. Read more on www.majuda.comhttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?IntuittechSdnBhd/bedfb2a34d/5d9f347be0/89fb5dd4d9 *Intuittech Technology Day 2011 - Update 2* *Event updates:* [image: mindermann] We are pleased to share that we have Mr. André Mindermann, CEO and Co-Founder of OTRS Group at our event. He has built one of the world's most promising technology companies based on a popular Open Source ticketing system and guided OTRS AG through its successful flotation on the Frankfurt stock exchange in 2009. He will share with us the latest and greates about OTRS and how we can further integrate Nagios into OTRS. Finally we have the agenda ready for you! Since we got a lot of registrations, we decided to split the event into two parallel tracks to accommodate all of you :-) *Agenda:* [image: agenda] Hope to see you there. Please follow this link to registerhttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?IntuittechSdnBhd/bedfb2a34d/5d9f347be0/239602baef yourself for this event, and invite your friends, clients and partners which are interested in Asterisk and Nagios to register too! Best regards Daniel -- *About the event:* Intuittech Sdn Bhd, the leader in Asterisk and Nagios solutions in Malaysia and south east asia, has partnered with its sponsors and organized the first ever Intuittech Technology Day to share the latest news and updates on Asterisk and Nagios as well having exciting presentations on how you can connect more effectively and efficiently with your customers and co-workers. *The conference aims at:* Individuals with a general Interest in Asterisk and Nagios that have a technical or non-technical background (you choose between business and technical tracks) Individual and companies looking into a possible new revenue stream by partnering with Intuittech existing and potential clients *We are honored to welcome great speakers and special guests such as:* Mark Spencer - Creator of Asterisk Ethan Galstad - Creator of Nagios, His Excellency the Ambassador of Switzerland Datuk Badlisham Ghazali, CEO of MDeC Datuk Jit Singh, CEO of Unit Innovasi Khas (Prime Ministers office) *Date and Time:* 28. April 2011 Registration and Breakfast is served from 7:30 AM to 8:45 AM. Event starts at 9 AM (sharp) *Various:* Free parking is provided Breakfast, Tea-Break, Lunch and Afternoon Tea-Break are provided The Intuittech Technology Day is *free of charge* *Location:* Securities Commission Malaysia 3, Persiaran Bukit Kiara Bukit Kiara 50490 Kuala Lumpur Google-Maps: Securities Commission Malaysiahttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?IntuittechSdnBhd/bedfb2a34d/5d9f347be0/cbf7633a43/f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Securities+Commission+Malaysiaaq=sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=32.80241,86.572266ie=UTF8hq=Securities+Commission+Malaysiahnear=radius=15000ll=3.144116,101.638126spn=0.076446,0.169086z=13 *Registration:* Please follow this link to registerhttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?IntuittechSdnBhd/bedfb2a34d/5d9f347be0/7293d371fcyourself for this event, and invite your friends, clients and partners which are interested in Asterisk and Nagios to register too! *Event sponsors* -- [image:
Re: [osdcmy] Have Faith In Your ISP
They count in bits? not bytes? On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: Sent from my iPhone On 13 Apr 2011, at 09:20, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: I feel so cheated, i got unifi 5 meg package and i get at most 500k . Is it 500kbytes/s right?about 4Mbits/s..ok la tu bro On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:41 AM, red1 r...@red1.orgr...@red1.orgwrote: celeke.. i mean how much damage it costs you? On 4/13/11 8:09 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: i choose my tools well. dumped tmnet for maxis bb while in kt 6 months ago. increased average daily speed from about 300kbps to 1mbps. also i had mobility and could take my internet even to the beach. but when i moved to putrajaya maxis bb was terrible. so i switched to yes 4g. just tested 5 minutes ago and i got 4.73mbps download and 1.03mbps upload. this time i had mobility and could share 1 account with my wife at home and me on the move (up to max 3 devices). hd clips on youtube did not even blink ! a 10min clip on youtube did not even pause in between. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:47 AM, red1 r...@red1.orgr...@red1.orgwrote: I have never really complained about my web access from my farm considering myself lucky even to able to collect my email. Well, 2 days ago i signed up the TM Blockbuster 1Mb RM110 per mth package for my farm home, and now i think i am getting 2Mb down and half Mb up. TM Screwed up? Never mind! :) I feel so powerful now! Facebook lights up very fast almost no lag like before. Did a ADSL test to US and it returns 1.3Mb down whereas before it was 300Kb. Then i did a real test to Sourceforge.net which always jammed half way and the pages showed up pretty quick. My faith in my ISP has returned. Hidup TM! -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] IBM releases HTML5 authoring tools
http://maqetta.org/ Quoted from the page Maqetta is an open source project that provides WYSIWYG visual authoring of HTML5 user interfaces. The Maqetta application itself is authored in HTML, and therefore runs in the browser without requiring additional plugins or downloads. It is originally developed by IBM, now they donate it to the dojo foundation. the github page is https://github.com/maqetta/maqetta -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] MOSC 2011 Officially Start And Venue
Same time same date? On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: Izzit this Bay View? http://www.penang-hotels.com/bayview/ http://www.pinganchorage.com.my/malaysia_hotel/penang_the_bayview_beach_resort.htm -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] MOSC 2011 Officially Start And Venue
i thought it is in june On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Waalaikumussalam good time.. i can attend becoz i'm holy holiday that time... wakakaka... 1 - 17 Julai ... 2011/4/11 Najah khairunna...@gmail.com 3rd July is Sunday. So We plan to have a community gathering at that time. :-) On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Yes same time and date 3rd july for community and 4th 5th july official conference. On 11 Apr 2011 08:42, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Same time same date? On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: Izzit this Bay View? ... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-infor... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
And we at hackerspacekl really appreciate the help we get from the fund. BTW install fest is best done 1) On a large area, everybody will bring their computer, 2) On a place with genuine interest, 3) With a crew that is very patient, because they will ask all sort of question that will annoy a lot of linux veteran, 4) Willing to walk someone through installation 5) High technical specialty, some user might be interested to install something for their business This assumes that we have large user coming to install linux. Generally I think linux is easy enough to not have a install fest, but then I used linux long enough that I know the quirk and forget what is hard or easy. Oh yeah might need a place for tutorial session or workshop on best setup of server etc. Also it is easy to think big, and forget the ground work that is needed. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: HackerspaceKL donation is sukarela. At any amount pun OK. RM15 is just suggestion for donation. The space is provided to us by our friends that voluntary pay the rent every month. As a gesture of appreciation, each time we use HackerspaceKL I has suggested, we donate what we can. Tak de pun tak pe. What HackerspaceKL really want, the community to use the place for activities and sebagai tetamu kita jaga baik-baik tempat tu. Our community is small, so kerja sama penting. Installfest meaningful is done in places that have group that want to know Linux. For example we arrange with ICT faculty for one day session about Linux and Install-fest. or we called for Installfest to all community, lets learn each other Distros. :) On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: yes, we do have KOSTEM to manage thing that related to money but what i must say is, it is more to community first this is an idea a kickstart it doesnt mean to be perfect i just assume that we can create or callobrate with hackerspacekl place for an example run the activities there, for an installation demo without fees. im sorry to say, but one of the main reason me myself didnt join hackerspace event because it require money it is burden for us, student rm15 could mean a lot even it is just to sincere donate, but could you just enter without donate a bit? i didnt have courage to do such things even i do have interest in joining it all my words below to show current things from the side of me as student what do student need? those who have interest in learning OSS so this is my suggestion: can we rent hackerspace place for example and create simple event? introduction to OSS and intallation demo trust me, installation to make a dual boot could be complicated for a basic user me myself strugle at the beginning mostly in partition the hdd and yes, we do need internet connection i agree on it rent place and invite all no cost at the starting event we can make this event as a way to determine how many will 'sahut' this call it should not cost a lot rite? just try call anyone, maybe a group of student or any newbie that show interest could also try to reach nearest school/society even only 10 person will come at first event, i think that is alredy big improvement if the geographical place is the obstacle, so i would to suggest if i organize it at my place currently in ipoh, perak. i do have friends, but little it is not quantity that we are seeking for right? quality is much important need person that can commit but of course the event will need help of the community since me myself lack of OSS knowledge the event just needed to be official and supported by OSDC this is my suggestion, i do think it will need lot of critism and modification but i talk as a student, as my point of view of newbie in this OSS world do free to talk direct to me -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Django Dash is on July
Django dash is a programming competition that require participant to create a django project within 48 hours. It is actually on a 9th to 10th which is on a weekend. http://djangodash.com/ So who want to join!! p.s Not trolling on django allowed on this post. lol -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Re: Django Dash is on July
http://djangodash.com/judging/results/ This is last years result, the quality of entry is good. this is the last years winner. So yes, this is not just a django project, http://greatbigcrane.com/ On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:01 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: some sprint or session before that would be nice :) /me try to be nice to django XD but seriously i would like to see some fu from the django masters :) Regards, CL Chow Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:50 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Django dash is a programming competition that require participant to create a django project within 48 hours. It is actually on a 9th to 10th which is on a weekend. http://djangodash.com/ So who want to join!! p.s Not trolling on django allowed on this post. lol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups python.my group. To post to this group, send email to pytho...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pythonmy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pythonmy?hl=en. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Monthly meetup submission form
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=enformkey=dHBveTBKaFNBU1RWMmU2QjNybVFhNHc6MQ#gid=0 sorry for taking so long, if you guys need to submit a talk for the monthly meetup. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Monthly meetup form
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=enpli=1formkey=dHBveTBKaFNBU1RWMmU2QjNybVFhNHc6MQ#gid=0 If you have anything to share, fill in this form, thanks -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Hari Terbuka 2011 pada 24-26 Mac 2011
25 is the distro workshop. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys! I just been inform by Pn. Suzita (UKM) about open day which I stated at the subject above. So, she contact me for recruit some numbers of community members joining forces as promotional team like we've done last year (if I not mistaken). We only needed for 25th and 26th March 2011. Because I'm not really quite free at that time, is there others who would like to join them? Just let me know. Thanks :) -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Handling NaN in python
I happens to have a instance where some data is in form of NaN(Not a Number). When converted into decimal, and I have to filter those. In many language and the latest python is a method or function in form of. is_nan or isnan, to check it. I happen to be unlucky enough to have python 2.4 that don't have that. Fortunately there is a way to handle this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaN As some might already know, Basically the idea is, for x is NaN then x == x is false. in python you can test it here f = float(NaN) if f == f: print this should not print or in decimal module from decimal import * d = Decimal(NaN) if d == d: print this should not print too yes, it not as useful now as newer python version provide a is_nan method, which is more intuitive. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Koperasi Untuk Kebajikan Semua
Or put up a job post on service needed by someone On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: imho, kostem can be the platform for freelancers to step up their business. with kostem, freelancers and sme, can maintain their independence and work on what they love doing, while kostem when it is mature enough can provide the facilities, promotions, marketing, accounting, administration, project financing, tender submissions, etc think of kostem as the administrative overheads, while all the operational business are conducted by the members (either as freelancers or sme). within this eco-system, kostem can be the network to facilitate, regulate, monitor and enforcer for intra-business / intra-activities / joint ventures / sub-contracts between the freelancers and sme, and any external party. representing an sme, i would love to be able to go into the kostem knowledge base, submit a rfp for specialist services, look at the references from the proposer, then using a template conclude on a contract. something like this : http://www.vworker.com/ members should take the opportunity to use kostem to further broaden their range of services by utilisting other expertise within kostem, and also to go for new markets / products / services. if in your mind, you think kostem will be your competitor, then yes, it will be your competitor. but if you want to do more than what you are capable of, then kostem would want to be the first organisation to listen to you. i would really want to see kostem that is capable of bringing out the best from its members and representing them to the external world. we should be looking beyond diskaun / pinjaman / insuran - we should be looking at the bigger mission which is of generating more income for its members. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.comwrote: Jemput datang kepada semua pendokong FLOSS di Malaysia. -- Aku Tetap Aku™ http://maklan.blogspot.com/ https://launchpad.net/~maklanx http://www.facebook.com/mohamadimranishak -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Skalicloud - Is it true ?
Better, ask them whether we can get discount. Actually if they do use a open source backend, they are a best candidate for a talk, and sponsor to a talk. both of community and company will be promoted either way On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:15 PM, wari...@gmail.com wari...@gmail.comwrote: Raja, kindly just ask them what is their backend Hypervisor if U can (and they want to answer). Cheers.. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, Can ask them to taja one workshop to OSS developers. So we can review and test the cloud? On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: i have an appointment with a rep for skalicloud tomorrow. thanks for sharing what you have had. will you blog this ? put some screenshots. thinking of having this for a local implementation (malaysian visitors only). requires java for batch processing some backend services. will have to see how much it all adds up. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- .: war|ola :. Use Fedora Linux for better computing experience http://fedoraproject.org -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa
You in malaysia it is different, and you can thank/blame the brits for that. English book is available, and we have a big enough population of english speaker. just saying 2011/3/18 sallehy sall...@gmail.com Jika berkesempatan ke Indonesia, mungkin boleh belajar sesuatu. Buku rujukan Bahasa Inggeris sukar cari makan katanya. Kedai buku bertingkat-tingkat penuh dengan bahasa mereka sendiri :) 2011/3/18 zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.com Sebenarnya saya lebih suka kalau dulu belajar matematik dan sains dalam Bahasa Inggeris. Bila belajar benda lebih tinggi, kebanyakkan bahan-bahan rujukan yang bagus adalah di dalam Bahasa Inggeris. Bahan-bahan rujukan dalam Bahasa Malaysia adalah terhad. Disebabkan hal tersebut, ramai orang kita sibuk cuba menterjemahkan apa yang mereka terlebih dahulu belajar dalam Bahasa Malaysia kepada Bahasa Inggeris dan sebaliknya sedangkan orang-orang lain yang sejak dari mula belajar dalam Bahasa Inggeris sibuk menguasai ilmu baru. 2011/3/18 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com sebab dah start dengan BI.cube imagine camniela.dlu2 kite blajar math dalam BM.ok jerk.mmg senang jer rase.n then skrng nie math da ajar lam BI.ade x sape2 yg leh jawab mcm care kite jawab dlu x?msti da pelik da.dengan plus,surd,divide,tu baru skit.term2 len? ngn science lagi.kalo suh kite jwb balik paper tu balik lam BI pn da serabut.sbb,1st tep kite blajar lam BM.n camtu la setrusnye.same gak mcm komp.kalo kite stat bljr lam BM,rasenyer xmustahil kot... 2011/3/18 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com 2011/3/18 zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.com Aku tak dapat bayangkan belajar komputer dalam BM. Bagi lagi berserabut kepala otak adalah. sebab dah start dengan BI.cube imagine camniela.dlu2 kite blajar math dalam BM.ok jerk.mmg senang jer rase.n then skrng nie math da ajar lam BI.ade x sape2 yg leh jawab mcm care kite jawab dlu x?msti da pelik da.dengan plus,surd,divide,tu baru skit.term2 len? ngn science lagi.kalo suh kite jwb balik paper tu balik lam BI pn da serabut.sbb,1st tep kite blajar lam BM.n camtu la setrusnye.same gak mcm komp.kalo kite stat bljr lam BM,rasenyer xmustahil kot... 2011/3/18 zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.com stack overflow limpah atas tindanan heap overflow , tarak record. USB port == port bas bersiri semesta 2011/3/18 Mohamad Imran imtym@gmail.com Dulu istilah bajet tak pernah digunakan secara rasmi. Tapi bila Tun. M perkenalkan istilah tu menggantikan 'belanjawan', ramai yang dah terima pakai. Atau maksud sebenarnya, perlu eksploitasi mereka yang s*omebody *bila bercakap tentang lokalisasi. 2011/3/18 ApOgEE jerung...@gmail.com Ini adalah pembetulan untuk rakan-rakan yang mungkin telah terkeliru: Gelintar = Search Tatal = Scroll Contoh ayat: Scrolling the page = Menatal halaman tersebut Searching using Google Search Engine = Menggelintar menggunakan Enjin Gelintar Google Sumber rujukan: http://prpm.dbp.gov.my On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.mywrote: Lets create a new words using DBP's standard! *Words:* Connect = Konek Debian Squeeze = Debian Picit Desktop = Atas Meja Laptop = Atas Peha *Commands:* fsck = **Perkataan Ini Telah Diharamkan** cat /proc/cpuinfo = kucing /proc/cpuinfo less = kurang So, *cat /var/log/auth.log | less* will be *kucing /var/log/auth.log | kurang* -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- Best Wishes, M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee - ApOgEE on LaunchPad http://artofapogee.blogspot.com - Art Of ApOgEE http://coderstalk.blogspot.com - Coder's Talk -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- Aku Tetap Aku™ http://maklan.blogspot.com/ https://launchpad.net/~maklanx http://www.facebook.com/mohamadimranishak -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
Good advice. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:46 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: I used to say: Work for yourself, not your company, and you be happier. Everyone around you be more better off (including your company, if they only know why). On 3/17/11 10:56 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: that nearly happened to me. quit a 5 figure salary job last month cause was feeling stressed. did a check and the doctor told me i have a mild coronary disease and am now on ace 1 medication. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:14 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: I think this is something normal in many other companies too (big or small). So sometimes you just need to move on. I had a manager who once told me this - Don't die for the company, company won't die for you. That was probably one of the best advices anyone has ever gave me. I didn't follow his advice until several companies later. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa
The real use case for localization is to bring technology to rural region which don't have good english command anyway. unless you going to spend another year teaching them english. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Or just use English for everything techno. Much better. =D 2011/3/18 Haris bin Ali ha...@qedx.com 2011/3/18 ApOgEE jerung...@gmail.com: Saya fikir, ini adalah usaha yang memakan masa dan berterusan Juga membazirkan masa dan tenaga. Sekiranya perkataan dan ungkapan tertentu telah tidak digunakan lagi oleh masyarakat mainstream, mengapa perlu dihidupkan kembali? Let it die a quiet death. //ha...@qedx.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret
Are we discussing any sensitive information here? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok. if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to the official source. with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation or persons or project this mailing list is publicly searchable through google. 1. Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim * ...* http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - [ Translate this pagehttp://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=msu=http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ei=9yyATfzuF8_IrQfo_7DIBwsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=2ved=0CCAQ7gEwAQprev=/search%3Fq%3Dmdec%2Bosdc%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dubuntu%26hs%3D8UN%26channel%3Dfs%26prmd%3Divns] 18 Sep 2009 *...* Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak *...* www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4KSYpBH8SJsJ:www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/+mdec+osdccd=2hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com 2. Flickr: linuxmalaysia's Photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ 9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010 Majlis Berbuka Puasa *MDeC* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim 160909 by *...* www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lKn-DBcPDL8J:www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/+mdec+osdccd=3hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com Show more results from flickr.comhttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntuchannel=fsq=mdec+osdcie=utf-8oe=utf-8# Get more discussion resultshttp://www.google.com/search?q=mdec+osdchl=enclient=ubuntuhs=8UNchannel=fsprmd=ivnstbs=dsc:1tbo=usa=Xei=9yyATfzuF8_IrQfo_7DIBwved=0CCgQmAcwAg 3. Java is big! What is *mdec* doing about it? - *OSDC*.my Mailing List *...*http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/browse_thread/thread/167d94791725eb9c/1a643a7aa528539d?lnk=raot 28 Feb 2011 *...* It is time we reveal our strength and not even consider *mdec's* existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give ua free lunch anyway *...* groups.google.com/group/*osdc*my-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hQhX9StDQHAJ:groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/browse_thread/thread/167d94791725eb9c/1a643a7aa528539d%3Flnk%3Draot+mdec+osdccd=4hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com 4. *OSDC*.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source Developershttp://www.scribd.com/doc/33628706/OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers 22 Sep 2009 *...* *MDeC's* Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with *OSDC*.my's Vice President The aim of *OSDC*.my is to unite local open source developers and their *...* www.scribd.com/.../*OSDC* -my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0WUOtim2CccJ:www.scribd.com/doc/33628706/OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers+mdec+osdccd=5hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com 5. *OSDC*.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source developershttp://commtechasia.net/tech/news/648-osdcmy-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html 22 Sep 2009 *...* The formation of the *OSDC*.my initiative is also part of the *MDeC's* plan to move in the direction of Malaysia's 10th Economic Plan in the *...* commtechasia.net/.../648-*osdc* my-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hBhu_Rr4mo4J:commtechasia.net/tech/news/648-osdcmy-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html+mdec+osdccd=6hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com for those who have signed the OSA, pls re-read the clauses On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org wrote: Morning everyone, I found that there are a lot of information related to our government discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay? Just my 2 cents. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret
I don't think that is a secret though, the only one closest is the tender which from what I is a open tend as in OPEN. I personally don't see that is a issue I could be wrong, and yes I'm not a lawyer On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:05 PM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: I think it is not a very secret, unless it is confidential (macam sama saja). He he But, I think, to make anything in the government to be transparent, we have to be transparent to discuss, because at the end of the day, everything the government decide to do, is equivalent with what rakyat needs. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:40:49 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-listosdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret Are we discussing any sensitive information here? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok. if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to the official source. with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation or persons or project this mailing list is publicly searchable through google. 1. Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim * ...* http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - [ Translate this pagehttp://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=msu=http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ei=9yyATfzuF8_IrQfo_7DIBwsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=2ved=0CCAQ7gEwAQprev=/search%3Fq%3Dmdec%2Bosdc%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dubuntu%26hs%3D8UN%26channel%3Dfs%26prmd%3Divns] 18 Sep 2009 *...* Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak *...* www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4KSYpBH8SJsJ:www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/+mdec+osdccd=2hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com 2. Flickr: linuxmalaysia's Photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ 9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010 Majlis Berbuka Puasa *MDeC* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim 160909 by *...* www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lKn-DBcPDL8J:www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/+mdec+osdccd=3hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com Show more results from flickr.comhttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntuchannel=fsq=mdec+osdcie=utf-8oe=utf-8# Get more discussion resultshttp://www.google.com/search?q=mdec+osdchl=enclient=ubuntuhs=8UNchannel=fsprmd=ivnstbs=dsc:1tbo=usa=Xei=9yyATfzuF8_IrQfo_7DIBwved=0CCgQmAcwAg 3. Java is big! What is *mdec* doing about it? - *OSDC*.my Mailing List *...*http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/browse_thread/thread/167d94791725eb9c/1a643a7aa528539d?lnk=raot 28 Feb 2011 *...* It is time we reveal our strength and not even consider *mdec's* existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give ua free lunch anyway *...* groups.google.com/group/*osdc*my-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hQhX9StDQHAJ:groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/browse_thread/thread/167d94791725eb9c/1a643a7aa528539d%3Flnk%3Draot+mdec+osdccd=4hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com 4. *OSDC*.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source Developershttp://www.scribd.com/doc/33628706/OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers 22 Sep 2009 *...* *MDeC's* Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with *OSDC*.my's Vice President The aim of *OSDC*.my is to unite local open source developers and their *...* www.scribd.com/.../*OSDC* -my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0WUOtim2CccJ:www.scribd.com/doc/33628706/OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers+mdec+osdccd=5hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com 5. *OSDC*.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source developershttp://commtechasia.net/tech/news/648-osdcmy-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html 22 Sep 2009 *...* The formation of the *OSDC*.my initiative is also part of the *MDeC's* plan to move in the direction of Malaysia's 10th Economic Plan in the *...* commtechasia.net/.../648-*osdc* my-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html - Cachedhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hBhu_Rr4mo4J:commtechasia.net/tech/news/648-osdcmy-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html+mdec+osdccd=6hl=enct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com for those who have signed the OSA
Re: [osdcmy] Skalicloud - Is it true ?
awan bee and that is not the same thing... that is like a dropbox alternative. On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Khairul Nadzmi betel...@gmail.com wrote: You can try awanbee.com .its free btw ;) . Sent from my iPhone On 14/03/2011, at 3:11 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote: SKALI?huhu.have bad experieance with them.maybe u should go to their DC at UPM serverfarm n decide urself...;) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:09 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Was looking into the page, but the loading is slow, kinda make me doubt they can do it. could by the isp though On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa ka...@smach.net wrote: Connection to AWS Apac (Singapore) quite bad since yesterday and I've been suffering typing on my console for hours. While waiting to setup new local dev so I can continue with my work, something pop out of my mind - is there malaysia cloud provider ? Google gave me this:- http://www.skalicloud.com/ A bit tempting to try it out but afraid it just a scam to get my mobile number so better ask first ? Anybody know about this ? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer
I got a feeling not just in term of foss, but many area in tech too. but then just a feeling. I also got a feeling on the amount of visible RD and product resulted from them. Again just a feeling, I could be wrong. Look like we have to work harder don't we, and that is not just a feeling On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:02 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Dude I didn't go down on details but as said Singapore community do have d edge of getting it done rather than Malaysian. But all you know it might be Malaysian who is in captivity by singaporien :) but dude honestly this not d 1st time I hear about it. Maybe we have not done enough.. and personally feel that somehow is my fault too.. rafe On Mar 15, 2011 11:53 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Please tell me using what criteria that they said Singapore is 10 times better than Malaysia? On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:26 AM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Today now I'm in a meeting with the internal team where he stated that the global player of OSS ... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-informa... -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-inf... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] New article: What the heck is FreeDOS?
A few of our community events, we did try to have a install fest, the thing is none worked the way we want. Probably we did it the wrong way(?) or we talking to the wrong audience(?). Really I don't know. Maybe because it is easy for them to get illegal copy of windows, or in university MSDN give them the latest anyway. Again really I don't know the real reason. But this is base on feel and observation. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: I went to the PIKOM PC fair this weekend and I saw a whole bunch of computers with FreeDOS installed. The people selling them didn't hesitate to offer unlicensed windows, though. It seems like this would be a very good opportunity for people in our community. We could treat it like a Linux installfest... give out Ubuntu (or any distro) discs and offer to do the installation for free. Then we give out our our business card and offer to do support for low rates paid into the local economy. This way, people have a more information and more choices... unusable FreeDOS, illegal windows (maybe RM50), or fully updated and licensed Ubuntu with all the features. It inspired a blog entry... What the heck is FreeDOS? : http://bit.ly/g44haf If you like it, post a comment on the blog... it makes me feel good :) -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Do CS need maths
number of core engineers who really make use of the engineering
knowledge. So while deeper engineering knowledge still matters today, it
matter less for majority of the engineers today. (disclaimer: I have little
understanding on what engineers really do, that's just my observation from
my friends graduating from engineering, and I may be wrong)
just my two cents. Btw even though I attended some CS courses, most of my
CS knowledge come from self teaching.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote:
ahaks...
for a mathematician a simpler answer is n*(n+1)/2
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.comwrote:
math n CS...
IMHO,without math,programming cant go to the next
part.if,else,while,and most of the programming part is derived from
math.and we actually learn that in school.but under Math,not
programming.slowly,we implement in our program.without we knowing,we
actually doint math.just pick some of the code:
while(i = 0;i5;i++){
i;
}
see?we actually doing plus operation there.:D
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not formally trained on CS. All my programming knowledge is self
taught.
So this is my opinion.
Programming is not solely an art. It's both art and science. I
experienced
countless of times where knowing maths would be extremely useful. While
it's
true that you can program something without any understanding of math
but I
learned the hard way that to implement something efficiently and of
high
quality you still need maths. I once created a middleware that helped
to
bridge between a system with Hylafax which I needed to write a
scheduler to
poll fax status from Hylafax. My first implementation was straight
forward,
without any thought of mathematical model. It worked but it ate up
resources
needlessly. Though it didn't give any problem but it's not elegant
because
it wasted on computing resource which I might need in the future.
Eventually
I managed to find a mathematical model to implement a good scheduler -
yes!
math to the rescue.
Still not buying on the importance of math? Consider yourself doing
programming and need to choose a data structure. Without good math
understanding how can you decide which data structure would be best on
a
given program? Want to analyse your newly and cool algorithm? Who you
gonna
call? Math, of course. Even when you code bussiness app, your business
logic
is basically a representation of mathematical model.
Not to discourage new programmer, you can still code with knowing math
in
depth. But, IMHO as you progress into a more competent programmer you
better
catch up with math again. It certainly helps. Math has helped me, I'm
sure
it's useful to others too.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
We really need math in CS. They way Computer engineers and software
developers think are like mathematician. All are numbers.
We codes in 1 and 0. if then else. all can be calculate and formula
can be created.
and one thing.
Computer programming is an art :)
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:40 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://ocirs.com/2011/03/11/computer-science-education-and-math/
based on this article. Actually I kinda agree with the author. It
depends on
the goal, if aim for research YES, if for industry, maybe no
what you guys think
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Re: [osdcmy] Do CS need maths
Precisely my point
While programming is mostly logics, which in turn is a branch of maths,
which in turn covered like in one class(?). But how about advance maths. do
we use calculus that much. unless we write game, or image processing. Most
of the apps, business apps is more of a get from database, display output,
or take from output and put into database, and scalability is by putting
more machine.
Then, comes another question, who here is actually solving the hard problem
in CS that actually require advance maths.
Just curious anyway
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:23 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote:
If you want to be just another programmer, then you don't need that much
of math, otherwise, yes math is important.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote:
ahaks...
for a mathematician a simpler answer is n*(n+1)/2
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.comwrote:
math n CS...
IMHO,without math,programming cant go to the next
part.if,else,while,and most of the programming part is derived from
math.and we actually learn that in school.but under Math,not
programming.slowly,we implement in our program.without we knowing,we
actually doint math.just pick some of the code:
while(i = 0;i5;i++){
i;
}
see?we actually doing plus operation there.:D
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not formally trained on CS. All my programming knowledge is self
taught.
So this is my opinion.
Programming is not solely an art. It's both art and science. I
experienced
countless of times where knowing maths would be extremely useful. While
it's
true that you can program something without any understanding of math
but I
learned the hard way that to implement something efficiently and of
high
quality you still need maths. I once created a middleware that helped
to
bridge between a system with Hylafax which I needed to write a
scheduler to
poll fax status from Hylafax. My first implementation was straight
forward,
without any thought of mathematical model. It worked but it ate up
resources
needlessly. Though it didn't give any problem but it's not elegant
because
it wasted on computing resource which I might need in the future.
Eventually
I managed to find a mathematical model to implement a good scheduler -
yes!
math to the rescue.
Still not buying on the importance of math? Consider yourself doing
programming and need to choose a data structure. Without good math
understanding how can you decide which data structure would be best on
a
given program? Want to analyse your newly and cool algorithm? Who you
gonna
call? Math, of course. Even when you code bussiness app, your business
logic
is basically a representation of mathematical model.
Not to discourage new programmer, you can still code with knowing math
in
depth. But, IMHO as you progress into a more competent programmer you
better
catch up with math again. It certainly helps. Math has helped me, I'm
sure
it's useful to others too.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
We really need math in CS. They way Computer engineers and software
developers think are like mathematician. All are numbers.
We codes in 1 and 0. if then else. all can be calculate and formula
can be created.
and one thing.
Computer programming is an art :)
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:40 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://ocirs.com/2011/03/11/computer-science-education-and-math/
based on this article. Actually I kinda agree with the author. It
depends on
the goal, if aim for research YES, if for industry, maybe no
what you guys think
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Re: [osdcmy] New article: What the heck is FreeDOS?
And some diss it simply because it is available for free, or refuse to use it because it look different On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:43 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.comwrote: Most of them are preloaded with FeeDos so that the computer price can be reduced by as much as 1K? Unlike corporate users, most of the home users don't give a crap whether their OS is legal or pirated, they just want something cheap (This is especially in Malaysia). If you think people will install Ubuntu instead of Windows just because it gives them a legal OS, then you are wrong. Unless Ubuntu will let them play the latest Call of Duty, Crysis or whatever game there is and let them easily have the same setup for Word processing as in their office (for those non-gamers), otherwise no. Best Regards, Zarul Shahrin On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: A few of our community events, we did try to have a install fest, the thing is none worked the way we want. Probably we did it the wrong way(?) or we talking to the wrong audience(?). Really I don't know. Maybe because it is easy for them to get illegal copy of windows, or in university MSDN give them the latest anyway. Again really I don't know the real reason. But this is base on feel and observation. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: I went to the PIKOM PC fair this weekend and I saw a whole bunch of computers with FreeDOS installed. The people selling them didn't hesitate to offer unlicensed windows, though. It seems like this would be a very good opportunity for people in our community. We could treat it like a Linux installfest... give out Ubuntu (or any distro) discs and offer to do the installation for free. Then we give out our our business card and offer to do support for low rates paid into the local economy. This way, people have a more information and more choices... unusable FreeDOS, illegal windows (maybe RM50), or fully updated and licensed Ubuntu with all the features. It inspired a blog entry... What the heck is FreeDOS? : http://bit.ly/g44haf If you like it, post a comment on the blog... it makes me feel good :) -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
[osdcmy] Do CS need maths
http://ocirs.com/2011/03/11/computer-science-education-and-math/ based on this article. Actually I kinda agree with the author. It depends on the goal, if aim for research YES, if for industry, maybe no what you guys think -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
worst, VB6.. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa ka...@smach.netwrote: 2011/3/13 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com: interviewer : what software do you know ? interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] I think now you can see that the problem is not the tools but the education system itself. To continue this example, what those schools should teach is not Excel or OpenOffice calc, or Windows vs FiMOS but spreadsheet, word processor or operating system and pick one tools as 'referenced implementation' of these concepts. The same goes to programming language course or we would be forever getting a graduate who only know .NET or Java or even worse ... VB. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Hell I don't excel, don't even know how to calculate stuff properly or using macro, and I always curse that my vim short cut doesn't work when I use it On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very cheap. and no virus. 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel for quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, reconciliation, balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning schedule, manufacturing account. 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya mampus lah aku... kenapa sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in malaysia. on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread somebody mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is this attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing innovation in malaysia. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Microsoft makes available test build of Python plug-in for Visual Studio 2010
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-makes-available-test-build-of-python-plug-in-for-visual-studio-2010/8892 Any comments from Python community? Any gossips that we should now :) Look like Azure will become direct rival with Google App Engine http://code.google.com/appengine/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Microsoft makes available test build of Python plug-in for Visual Studio 2010
Sorry for repeating the mail, was meant to forward to python.my sorry On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:34 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-makes-available-test-build-of-python-plug-in-for-visual-studio-2010/8892 Any comments from Python community? Any gossips that we should now :) Look like Azure will become direct rival with Google App Engine http://code.google.com/appengine/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] U.S. - Malaysia Relations talk
Ask them any plan to continue pushing ACTA like agreement in Malaysia (I suppose that they will say no, but i don't trust them) On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: Later today I'll be attending a talk on U.S. - Malaysia Relations by the US Ambassador to Malaysia at UMS later today. I don't know the exact details of what will be presented, but if it seems appropriate, I'll be sure to mention my affiliation with SOSG and OSCDMY. It probably won't come up at all, but I wanted to mention that I was going. I'll be taking notes, too, and I'll send an email to the lists with any information that might interest our groups. It occurs to me that International Copyright laws may be discussed and that's definitely a topic of interest to our groups. Regards. -- Vince Aggrippino a.k.a. Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog P.S. I tried to send the preceding message earlier by email, but it bounced back. I think it's something quirky about Google Groups email addresses. I'm investigating it with Pakcik Google right now. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian
Personally I think that by not having a public accessible iso image will be a liability, though I might understand the reason why you don't want to release this publicly. Just my 2 cent. Wish you guys luck anyway.. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:41 PM, [dev]Data Code codemas...@yahoo.comwrote: Thank you for your interest in FiMOS, your comments and suggestion is appreciated and important to us in order to make a better change towards local distro. Unfortunately our distro is not available to download officially. It is available through our appointed technology partner which is listed through our official website. Thank you again. On Mar 10, 10:09 am, Meling Mudin meli...@gmail.com wrote: cekedaut fimos fb .. ada latest stable final release screen shot... Hi, Is there a download link for the ISO? I, for one, would really like to test it. --mel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
[osdcmy] Pyweek registration had started
http://www.pyweek.org/12/ pyweek have started, in a nutshell this is a competition to produce a computer game with pygame within a week. We still have time to form a team The rules is here http://pyweek.org/s/rules/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Tender for integrated open source hospital information system
True, but remember health IT is big task, a lot of due diligence need to be done. It is patient information you are talking about and indirectly deals with life and death. Which is one reason it is hard, but possible(/me look at boh), to go into this. and another reason big company might get it, it is their trust into a big company. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Mohd Amree am...@linux.org.my wrote: Aik, bukankah Kompakar dah sapu projek2 untuk hospital under Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia? Seriously, Pegawai IT ramai kat KKM, something should be done untuk buat satu sistem sendiri yang boleh di maintain oleh semua orang-orang IT di KKM. Jimat duit + Tambah ilmu. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Monthly event for OSDC.my
I talk to the hackerspacekl gang to schedule it. probably preparing a form to submit talk On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Tajul Azhar bin Mohd Tajul Ariffin pislissnif...@gmail.com wrote: Cam lagu Boyzone lak ni.. ;) Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -- *From: * riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:23:50 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Monthly event for OSDC.my when the going get's tough the tough gets going azhar just my svai euro 2011/3/6 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com OK we have Wariola for the month of April. Lets set this once a month to get the momentum. For month of March we already Workshop for Inter Distros on 26th. So we already start the momentum. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 12:30 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Because now we got permission to use Hackerspacekl to run event, I say lets have a event each month under osdc.my. It is not necessary in hackerspacekl, but it is already there, why not use it. Because wariola have already volunteered for virtualization related talk, we can start with that. So I propose that we start on april, if he is available la, or this month also can. Or we can start with distro workshop this month. One reason is, it is a long time since we have a proper FOSS meetup, and just talk on mailing list don't cut it, and hackerspacekl can have more activity We don't really need to have a talk, if that month a distro released, so we might do a distro release for that month. I suggest do it on a weekend, and do it monthly so that we can to reduce the load. What you guys say... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
[osdcmy] Monthly event for OSDC.my
Because now we got permission to use Hackerspacekl to run event, I say lets have a event each month under osdc.my. It is not necessary in hackerspacekl, but it is already there, why not use it. Because wariola have already volunteered for virtualization related talk, we can start with that. So I propose that we start on april, if he is available la, or this month also can. Or we can start with distro workshop this month. One reason is, it is a long time since we have a proper FOSS meetup, and just talk on mailing list don't cut it, and hackerspacekl can have more activity We don't really need to have a talk, if that month a distro released, so we might do a distro release for that month. I suggest do it on a weekend, and do it monthly so that we can to reduce the load. What you guys say... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Monthly event for OSDC.my
Running a event is huge work, and everyone have a day job, some even run their business, doing it every week will be taxing. I am assuming here that guy/gal might not be available that month due to a variety of reason, anyone else can take over. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 12:40 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: what a great idea sweemeng hack just do it everyweek if you like (the meetup) those who come up were the one's take their names and tweet. now we need to prep for agenda since we got the venue already workshop distro android app python jv mosc2011 lagi? azhar 2011/3/5 sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com Because now we got permission to use Hackerspacekl to run event, I say lets have a event each month under osdc.my. It is not necessary in hackerspacekl, but it is already there, why not use it. Because wariola have already volunteered for virtualization related talk, we can start with that. So I propose that we start on april, if he is available la, or this month also can. Or we can start with distro workshop this month. One reason is, it is a long time since we have a proper FOSS meetup, and just talk on mailing list don't cut it, and hackerspacekl can have more activity We don't really need to have a talk, if that month a distro released, so we might do a distro release for that month. I suggest do it on a weekend, and do it monthly so that we can to reduce the load. What you guys say... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Why our Unis turn out such poor quality IT grads. - long rant
While it is true that programming can be highly paid. in most organization that i know of, programmer is a deadend position, you pretty much stuck. More often than not the only way to get promoted is to go to management. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:31 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: On 3/3/11 8:54 AM, Boh Yap wrote: hi all, here's another rant, its directed at our Educational system, but done in a less brutal way than the 'last' nuclear exchange between Red and Rafe ;-) Sabar guys you both got your points, Have a read and pls comment... Critique of MQA Computing Program Document Hm.. Boh, you also losing your kungfu touch, above you commend both sides, not making known your own stand. Playing it safe by not playing to the gallery at all :) Since you ask me to comment in your MQA analysis, so here goes. 1. Why analysed something that is more than 30 years old? The topics sounded familiar and quite inferior to what i learnt in IDPM, London (via Goon's Institute KL) in 1981! There i learnt Programming, Data Structures, Flowcharting, Intermediate Accounts, Communications and Systems Analysis all in 2 years. I got employed at end of 1st year by Dataprep in 1982. 2. About teaching ERP in colleges, if they just teach Accounting well, should be enough. Don't make the kids start cursing you in their facebooks. 3. About programming as a highly paid skill, as compared to Systems A Design, the later should be true as AD precedes form, but the concept those days is wrong today. What, if any design kids should know today is encapsulated in OO. That is the present, almost going past. Certainly not future. Finally thanks Boh for your thesis, as you finally nailed this into the coffin. Malaysia's future is dead. It's knowhow menu is Vasco Da Gama's. Wonder if MDec employs such grads and in what numbers. Rafe, any stats? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia still under the IIPA Watch List
It is not pirating if it is not on cd or bit torrent On Mar 4, 2011 6:06 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: On 3/4/11 1:44 AM, Boh Yap wrote: hi No big deal, on the one hand, the the major sponsors of this program is the MPAA, the RIAA which represent the recording and movie industries. These are the people who sue single mothers and kids for downloading content! While they make fat profits by charging exorbitant prices for their content, and pay artists a pittance! They are nothing more than gangsters who cry foul, when their earnings are impacted! And are they the same party also supporting Software Patents? And these ppl oppose FOSS as well.. Red1, maybe you can get the SW pirates to make 1,000's of Adempiere CDs and distribute them?? No need to, just download them. You can see the stats here http://sourceforge.net/projects/adempiere/files . -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia still under the IIPA Watch List
Because it is a joke that failed to happen, i was refering to the one post on jalan petaling on this thread On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:00 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: It is not pirating if it is not on cd or bit torrent Why not? If I host an MP3 file containing a copyrighted song on my website, the company that owns the rights to the song will probably try to have my site taken down. In this context, the term piracy was rhetoric used by to make people who share seem evil. It doesn't really mean anything. It's more or less slander. -- Ghodmode -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] M'sian Govt Show Them the Numbers
Among community members, we do have a few that do support on FLOSS, btw when talking about FLOSS adoption in govt, don't forget about infrastructure migration on OS, or database etc, that do save a lot of money, the license for the proprietary software they replacing is just INSANE. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: http://www.opensource.org/node/535 - Malaysian Government has reached 97% OSS Adoption and saves http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2010/07/05/open-source-saves-malaysian-government-rm188-million RM188! Yep we got the numbers! Nape? Tak caya ke? Tak leh bawa bank kah? Kene tunjuk cash jugak ka? Nama je bank. Tolong orang kaya saja... sudahla... :) Lets capitalize on this opportunity. The new FLOSS users need support. Who will put on their business card Specializing in FLOSS Implementation and Support Services? And another thought... From the articles, my guess is that their savings comes primarily from dumping Microsoft Office in favor of OpenOffice.org. But OpenOffice.org has fallen out of favor a little bit due to Oracle's influence. The managers and officers in government offices aren't likely to know anything about this, or even care, but we do. My concern is that now Oracle will basically try to take over where Microsoft left off by locking consumers (government offices included) into some kind of services, modules, and support plan that they can't get from the Open Source world. In a few years will we be fighting Oracle the same way we've fought Microsoft in the past? I can now see why RMS is a *lifelong activist*... it just never ends. I'm curious what everyone thinks. Does it matter to you? Is it a problem? Has anyone heard of the related term Open Core? What is open core licensing (and what isn’t) UPDATEDhttp://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2010/10/20/what-is-open-core-licensing-and-what-isnt/- 451 CAOS Theory ( http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2010/10/20/what-is-open-core-licensing-and-what-isnt/ ) -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Call For Distros Workshop
Ini distro workshop ke or LED workshop. confuse. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:03 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: me google talk rizerenterpr...@gmail.com Mr. Swee Meng from hskl i really love those running led that's in youtube. arrangement for DistroWatch !st. DistroWorkshop meetup at HackerSpace kL 26Mac2011 0800-2300 for the preliminary show-up showcase for 1Mdb a everyone is invited. I will bring along hakko iron and my talking perroquet just in case or anyone| please message me 0194552670 for further notifications. The sign were so clear on the LED would it not be the zylog that you hacking? I wonder sincerely brolinux 2011/3/3 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com: Bro. Can we arrange with HackerspaceKL ? Need your help on this. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: So shall I. As those who know me well, I am out spoken and sometimes can be too blunt. I mean no harm to anyone. I want the best for FOSS in Malaysia. So kalau nanti bahasa kurang halus, saya minta maaf dahulu. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Why our Unis turn out such poor quality IT grads. - long rant
Good one will learn on their own anyway. But boh really hit it spot on. unfortunately during my time, which is really not that long ago, one have to really learn on their own to really know stuff. But hey, this is Malaysia, student are taught to study stuff relevant to exam, so good luck with finding more of us down there. And they try to train to fit the industry, but really I got my doubt on whether they know about it. So I got a feeling that if I go back to school, many stuff we talk about that we take for granted is new them. Which I really hope to be wrong. Which is why many of my classmate ends up as 1) Support 2) Sysadmin. Not that many in software development, and of those even fewer involve in Open Source(maybe except PHP) or anything non-Microsoft/PC/Web. Many will opt out for programming related job also for other reason, that is actually another story all together. and quite a number quit IT, some is aptitude some is about perceived future in IT. 2011/3/3 Haris bin Ali ha...@qedx.com +1000 Jangan harap la nak diajar pasal version control kat universiti. Project management konon //ha...@qedx.com 2011/3/3 Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin kernel...@gmail.com: O tp nie utk private college... even utk subjek photography pun dorang mintak kena ada bilik gelap... even skang nie dah pakai SLR kamera... 2011/3/3 Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org On 03/03/2011 10:00 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin wrote: Salam semua, Nk masukan subjek JAVA Programing pun panel MQA ckp, itu terlalu tinggi utk student diploma, so camane erkk.. Rasanya sejak 2005 dah ada ajar java kat uni awam sebab saya kena ambil subjek OOP untuk Dip. Sains Komputer semasa di UiTM dulu. Tapi lecturer tu main dan je la...pasal baru belajar untuk mengajar :D -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Why our Unis turn out such poor quality IT grads. - long rant
sekarang pun sama, dan seperti dulu, tak banyak yang pilih IT sebagai pilihan pertaman 2011/3/3 Hafiz Bhari executab...@gmail.com Ingat tak masa mula-mula IT bertapak kat sini. Course IT lah yang paling mudah untuk masuk U. IT mungkin diletakkan sebagai pilihan kedua, ketiga, keempat atau tercorot untuk masuk U. Sekarang pun mungkin lagi. Dan hasil pengalaman mengajar student U, sedikit dari mereka yang betul-betul minat kat IT. Yang lain semua kerana terpaksa. Bagi dorang yang penting masuk U lulus exam dan berharap kerja datang bergolek depan mereka. 2011/3/3 Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org On 03/03/2011 12:05 PM, Haris bin Ali wrote: +1000 Jangan harap la nak diajar pasal version control kat universiti. Project management konon //ha...@qedx.com teringat bro Azrul (beliau keje dgn Sun kot masa tu) tanya kat aku pada satu event Sun kt incubator MSC di Cyberjaya: apa object paling atas sekali dalam java (lebih kurang dalam BI, kalau tak silap jawapannya Object() ) masa tu aku baru lepas extend Asas Programming (student malas kaki games) baru je amik OOP, yang lain dah masuk OOP2. Baru je belajar buat function merepek. Tergamam jugak la. Bedal je tapi dah lupa jawab apa. Bila masuk OOP2 baru la tau jawapan tu. Malas baca buku teks! Hehehe. student sc. comp. jangan malas-malas macam aku ;) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Regards, Hafiz -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?
While nobody knows who are you really on the internet, but the internet remembers what you say. and please we have too much flamewar already 2011/3/2 Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin kernel...@gmail.com Salam semua, Jgn ler gaduh2 aku rase better kite tgk diri sendiri dulu sebelum menunding jari ke org lain atau asyik carik salah org lain, h...and please lerr dont use the F word or insulting anyone... sori bro semua erk bukan nak ckp pandai tp peringatan utk diri sy sama... 2011/3/2 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Yep. Im NOT pandai dalam hal-hal lobbying to government or mau kipas saper2 or mahu kick the butt of any agencies. Konsep saya mudah. Jika tiada, biar tiada. Yang diberikan kita terima. You keep on making people in this list angry at you thats include me now... and don't insult me about banking. I had work in the bank daripada kerani sampai pegawai selama 13 tahun. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:43 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa numbers? Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank??? Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia, tetapi masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen. Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
If you need video to show, i have a few, though I'm not sure whether they get the meaning of it. I have code rush(a story of netscape and show the time they release mozilla) revolution OS, on open source, though low resolution though and patent absudity. 2011/3/2 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari rizal...@gmail.com Aik lepas kena tibai tu hari... main teknik stanby lak... :) Soire, awak tu orang Jerantuit ke? On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Sy pun standaby masuk dlm list.. p/s: yahoo.. blh blk kmpg skali daa... Pada 2 Mac 2011 1:02 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.commenulis: Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks bro Pada 1 Mac 2011 7:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :) 2011/3/1 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:) 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com: Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad) Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas daripada rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat. Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti. 1) Booth? 2) Ceramah? Sekian, terima kasih. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.info jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton)http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
So probably not revolution OS, i always thought it is donated, hmmm but the rest of the 2 is 1) public domain or 2) under creative commons On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Please make sure that the video that we are going to show is a legitimate copy. I know Revolution OS is copyrighted, and if you download it from Internet, you are actually infringing the copyright. See http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/04/revolution-os-award-winning-documentary.html On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: If you need video to show, i have a few, though I'm not sure whether they get the meaning of it. I have code rush(a story of netscape and show the time they release mozilla) revolution OS, on open source, though low resolution though and patent absudity. 2011/3/2 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari rizal...@gmail.com Aik lepas kena tibai tu hari... main teknik stanby lak... :) Soire, awak tu orang Jerantuit ke? On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Sy pun standaby masuk dlm list.. p/s: yahoo.. blh blk kmpg skali daa... Pada 2 Mac 2011 1:02 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.commenulis: Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks bro Pada 1 Mac 2011 7:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com menulis: nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :) 2011/3/1 darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:) 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com: Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad) Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas daripada rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat. Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti. 1) Booth? 2) Ceramah? Sekian, terima kasih. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.info jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian)https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton)http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http
Re: [osdcmy] Re: My1OS sapu duit gomen
Actually don't worry about them too much, some members foss community may seems very opinionated. They usually harmless. We are from many layers of life, thus all will have a different opinion of stuff. The sapu duit argument is always been in Malaysian mouth. Every time govt use money, for positive or negative, they will just say it is wasting money. Everybody seems to want the money for subsidy only, hmmm. Of course there is this administration track record, though that would be another debate altogether p.s I hope that that just because some of us here, you loses hope to the local community On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Dev codemas...@yahoo.com wrote: Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera pada semua. I'm thrill to this thread and issues address by my honorable members. Thank you for bringing this up to us. We do appreciate all views and criticism positively.But i can't hesitate to ask, do you guys have evidence support such accusation saying that we're sapu duit gomen . If so, would kindly please present (in flesh and blood) your accusations regarding this issue. I'd love to see it. @simpleLinux I appreciate your views on our products, if you want to purchase from us, do send me an email with your contact details and payment so that i can personally send it to your doorstep. Holding grudge againts us doesn't make any of the situation good. We are in the opensource world, i'm asking you as a sign of good faith or brother-in-arms, to let it go and let the majority user who uses my1os judge us. Alas i may recall, maybe this is one of the reason as to why opensource in Malaysia doesn't well grown to maturity, as the factor of holding grudge againts and condemning each other comes into play. For goodness sake, we are one of you and you are one of us. We, the developer doesn't condemn each other, or do we? Or backstabbing someone and be hypocrite about it, do we? Just to clear this up, who is our real enemy? The real enemy is ourselves. Other than that, i rest my case. Above all, i would humbly ask for apology if there's any words coming from my keyboard and my mind that doesn't suit well to the majority of this mailing list as i would humbly remind myself that, Think before you open your mouth all the time. Have a nice weekend guys, Assalamualaikum, salam sejahtera pada semua. On Feb 27, 2:22 pm, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: Bak kata SM Salim Apa Nak Jadi, Apa dah Jadi hahahahaha.. Pandangan saya: Diorang ni guna kerajaan untuk mempromosikan produk mereka dan berbangga dengan nya. Depa kutuk saya kata Sekurang2 nya kami adalah sistem operasi PERTAMA yang mendapat pengiktirafan kerajaan melalui replay di fb. dan mereka juga dapat mengaut keuntungan dengan alasan sistem operasi ni takde virus la bro. masih menggunakan repo drpd Ubuntu ;p.. nak guna model perniagaan Red Hat.. mungkin boleh la diorang hire developer bijak (bijak?) diseluruh negara untuk membantu diorang sikit2 melumpuhkan nama Ubuntu drpd distribusi tu untuk menggantikannya dengan my1os utk mengaburi mata orang hahahaha.. senangnya nak mengaut keuntungan drpd open source, dah nama SUMBER TERBUKA rembat je, modify sikit2 tambah compiz fusion utk menarik minat orang lain, tambah key cain 30 sen dengan support 50 sen dan charge RM 100... hihihihi xD jangan marah dengan kata2 pedas ini.. (kalau nasib baik tak kena quote) On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:09 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: geng putera 2011/2/27 Haris bin Ali ha...@qedx.com: Tradisi bisnes bumiputra Malaya? //ha...@qedx.com On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:05 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: I just got this sms from a friend who knows nothing about IT, Apa tu MY1OS?.. Budak2 sapu dana kerajaan saja. This is not my opinion. I got the sms to prove for such an opinion from a member of the public. I hate to be in controversy but what to do. We are surrounded by it. I replied to him this, Gomen malas berfikir. Inovasi kene fikir dalam2. Kene cari inovator yg cerdik, payah. Asyik yg kaki hentam belaka, kononnya terlalu high std. Maka sapu jela lagi senang. Lagipun, cepat dapat, cepat makan bersama-sama. :) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC
Re: [osdcmy] Call For Speakers Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 (MOSC2011)
You learn as you teach.. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Just be prepare we love to pick speakers like you hehehehe... On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Already Done! [?][?] (p/s: saya bknlh pakar, hanya salah seorang dari pengguna+penguji GAMBAS) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert B60.gif33E.gif
Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Hardware Compatibility project
Because we are lazy I say we should start with phoronix On Feb 18, 2011 12:27 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com wrote: maybe tak semua, list yg mana critical je, kalau hardware yg genericaly saport, no worries sgt... On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: nak list semua ke? kena buat list dekat wiki nanti On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all; Last saturday during our session at HackerspaceKL, I raise an old issue of hardware compatibility list/test for OSS.. so i think it's time for s to share and test some hardwares and make a table of compatilibity, is it working natively or need some tweaks/hacks or not working at all.. item like? 1- usb broadband modem ( IMPORTANT! ) 2- Network cards 3- Graphic cards 4- motherboards and this list will grow.. make some tables, share the same hardware, and we test, give result as of users reference. Later maybe we can work with hardware manufacturer for the samples.. any idea? -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org: /home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.info jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org: /home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
[osdcmy-public] Moving to python 3.0
This is a article from LWN on moving to python 3.0 http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/426906/9707a799b4d38e79/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
[osdcmy-public] The Zen of Python with examples!!!!
http://artifex.org/~hblanks/talks/2011/pep20_by_example.py.txt This is about The Zen of Python, with code examples The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters Beautiful is better than ugly. Explicit is better than implicit. Simple is better than complex. Complex is better than complicated. Flat is better than nested. Sparse is better than dense. Readability counts. Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. Although practicality beats purity. Errors should never pass silently. Unless explicitly silenced. In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess. There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it. Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch. Now is better than never. Although never is often better than *right* now. If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea. If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea. Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Facebook Developer Garage KL #1
Sounds fun, who's going On Feb 4, 2011 11:54 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Facebook Developer Garage KL #1 From their Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=141589892567260 Time Friday, February 25 at 6:00pm - February 27 at 5:00pm Location to be advised Created By Facebook Developer Garage Kuala Lumpur, Hakim Albasrawy More Info Register now to participate in Facebook Developer Garage KL #1. The event is targeted for developers interested in picking up skills and learning about how to program using the Facebook API and social graph. Highlights and some of the reasons you cant afford to miss the event Speakers sessions - Using the FB api : Aizat Faiz Facebook Developer based in KL) - How to become a preferred developer partner : (TBA) - The business of Facebook applications : (TBA) - Cloud rollouts, scaling backend of fb apps : Colin Charles Speakers wanted. If interested, please do contact ai...@fb.com 24 hour Hackathon Submit your ideas and hack-em together for fame, swag and a chance to win some pretty cool prizes Networking session A little bit of fun and a chance to mingle and get to know other developers and potential investors http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=141589892567260 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Malaysia Python User Group - Python.my
and also we don't eat snake. though some of us might actually appreciate spam, and monty python and the flying circus. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, OSS community of the day Python.my http://python.my/ This not animal right group for protection of snake ... Hehehe... Python runs on almost all modern OS and have been proven to be one of the most productive programming language around town. Python have been successfully used in all areas of development ranging from games, web portals, system applications, hacking and is even the educational sector as the choice language for learning programming. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Malaysia Python User Group - Python.my
Seriously Doubt it, but I ask around anyway On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Swee Meng, Anyone from your group can be a speaker. Specially during working hours. Mon to Friday... I want to compile list of speakers from community. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:10 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: and also we don't eat snake. though some of us might actually appreciate spam, and monty python and the flying circus. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] A Response Letter to the Word Attachments
Word Documents, Just Say NO On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Hehehe. Dont worry no flame war here. I just want to promote another alternative for Office Suite. OpenOffice already been promoted for number of years.. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, azmi salim azm...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, a bit curios here. Why LibreOffice and not OpenOffice.org? OMG, I hope I'm not initiating flaming war here though :-) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [osdcmy-public] Fitness Slim cukup merbahaya
There is another alternative for that. But might not be as comprehensive. Selenium is a test framework for testing UI. While selenium alone need user interaction, by recording their action to a test. But there is a way to do testing programmatically with selenium remote control. This is precisely how a BDD framework in python called Pycurracy do it. By defining a user acceptance test in roughly a text format. and with it, generate the required code to be used with selenium remote control 2011/1/14 red1 r...@red1.org Yakni kepada perisian tertutup kerana kini Sumber Terbuka cukup mudah dan pantas diuji secara 'programmatically' tanpa 'user action' dan secara al alami tanpa kepakaran. Hanyeh pandai wiki je. Akan payah untuk sumber tertutup menyaingi kerana mereka tidak pasti teruji oleh pihak luar semasa 'software life cycle'. Ana sudah membuktikannya di sini: http://www.adempiere.com/index.php/FitnesseSlim r e d 1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
[osdcmy-public] Python is the language of the year in tiobe!!!
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html As the title. Me as a python fanboi is happy -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
[osdcmy-public] Re: Python is the language of the year in tiobe!!!
Python.my is started, i don't want to focus on language, i still think there is place for everyone. But we do need more programming related event for osdc.my(just saying), So a meetup would be good On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa ka...@smach.netwrote: On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:03 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html As the title. Me as a python fanboi is happy Then let's make 2011 the year for Python in .my. We should start brainstorming what would make Python gaining traction. Do we need to follow the same path as PHP ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups python.my group. To post to this group, send email to pytho...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pythonmy+unsubscr...@googlegroups.compythonmy%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pythonmy?hl=en. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] What did you do this New Year for Open Source?
Let them, let all of them use windows, then when their system is compromised then they remember that they have a choice On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:10 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Well, not much http://sourceforge.net/projects/adempiere/files/WindowsInstaller/ADempiereSUPER1s.pdf/download And a latest MS Windows installer to help newbies and dummies to get on board using probably the best free ERP software in the world. http://www.adempiere.com/index.php/Windows_Installer Hope this is not sinful for indirectly promiting Windows ;P red1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] What did you do this New Year for Open Source?
Actually for the new year. I want to keep few thing running. - Software Freedom Day - Actually start a few meetup, to jump start myoss meetup or just the same format, actually care under what banner this goes. - Actually manage to pull off a python meetup in my office in the middle of this month, boss is ok, though i need confirmation 2011/1/8 Shukri Jahari jshu...@gmail.com tuan red1 boleh dtg dgn komuter ... kalau dtg dgn komuter, saya boleh amik salah faham konsep tu tuan red1, kalau nak maklumat lanjut pasal Adat Perpatih, tuan boleh dtg sini jumpa Tok Adat... :) 2011/1/8 red1 r...@red1.org On 1/7/11 11:18 PM, Shukri Jahari wrote: Projek Open Rembau 2011 http://openrembau.org Hombo doh tandakan MAYBE pegi.. pasal hambo tadok transport ... Jika bleh tumpang siapa2 saya pogi lah.. teringat kisah den dulu2 - BENSON HEDGES - Bila Eden Nikoh Samo Orang Nogori, Harto Eden Dan Goji Eden Solosai :D -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- *Shukri Jahari* Social Entrepreneur cum Ketua Biro Teknologi Maklumat Komunikasi Jemaah Pengurus Kebajikan Anak-Anak Yatim Miskin Ulu Gadong *My Projects* Penguin Masuk Kampung: http://penguinmasukkampung.org Ulu Gadong Project: http://ulugadong.org *Social Neworks* Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/shukri.jahari Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jshukri *Interest* Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jshukri -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL
I don't where it would be. But then a road trip would definitely more fun than KL On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Ah well, out of KL will be good. JB is only better because of the proximity to SG and the potential crowd it may bring. Penang...pretty much a dead town when it comes to FOSS Eric On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: if you want, I can suggest/survey it :p On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM, azs...@gmail.com azs...@gmail.com wrote: Have u consider d cost already? Venue, contractors, ap, fb, man power, printing, av and so on? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Mustakim Ahmad chi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:43 am Subject: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Vote for JB On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:36 AM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: kalau nak buat luar dari kuala lumpur, JB maybe a better choice since lagi accessible to singapore. this can probably help to increase attendance that you will lose from the day trip crowds in KL AJ On 6 January 2011 09:28, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.comwrote: Wahhh.. jauhnya bos.. محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera, This is still under discussion and need community feedback. MOSC2011 suggested to be at Pulau Pinang. Feed back please. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- A. Johan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.info jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Millennium Bug 10 Years Anniversary
Will the road there jam,or even accessible http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/12/30/nation/20101230201924sec=nationutm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 7:21 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Actually it depends on who you talking to. When I was working in the bank. There is sign of fixes for the program which written in cobol, for the Y2K bug. But then they are extremely prepared too. There is extension written for the date module to accommodate that On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone On 30 Dec 2010, at 18:00, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: 10 years ago i was merging the websites of Bank Bumiputra to Bank of Comerce as BCB that time. The hour passed, nothing happened. Itu Bank Bumi pun sudah elek. BCB pun sama. Raksaksa sudah makan. Bukan pepijat dua ribu. Ya..not many real y2k problems, but verdors were happy.everybody fixing hardwares and softwares..yay! On 12/30/10 1:58 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: Team, Anyone joining? Esok cuti m... http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=138430589547792 Date and time : 31hb Disember · 7.30 ptg - 10.30 ptg Tuan rumah : Garfield Fork You Location : Old Town White Coffee , Yap Kwan Seng Celebration of Millennium Bug 10 Years Anniversary. Tin Jubilee Of Millennium Bug. No matter you are an open source or proprietary software developer, sysadmin etc, you are welcome to join us! Anyway, this is a geek event, so no booze, no alcohol! No dance floor Im remember the day, standby data centre at Bangsar. Hehehe. But we suppose to do it new year 2010. Never mind -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Millennium Bug 10 Years Anniversary
If we are lucky we might even do a countdown, except, I might have to leave early to catch a bus... On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Anyone joining? Esok cuti m... http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=138430589547792 Date and time : 31hb Disember · 7.30 ptg - 10.30 ptg Tuan rumah : Garfield Fork You Location : Old Town White Coffee , Yap Kwan Seng Celebration of Millennium Bug 10 Years Anniversary. Tin Jubilee Of Millennium Bug. No matter you are an open source or proprietary software developer, sysadmin etc, you are welcome to join us! Anyway, this is a geek event, so no booze, no alcohol! No dance floor Im remember the day, standby data centre at Bangsar. Hehehe. But we suppose to do it new year 2010. Never mind -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Does anyone still code because of passion?
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:39 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone still do this these days? Does the market needs only drones? Or should we succumb to be drones just because we cannot fight the temptation of BREAD? Do we need more people who plays golf better than code in this field? Do we need to be guided and pampered so we can create our own Silicon Valley? Do we simply create a project just to get funding? Do we simply code because we need the money? Do we simply allow people to give us disgrace? How many of us are aware we are falling deeper into this eternal hole of no conscience? Can't we code simply we just like to code? Regards, CL Chow Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en We need more technically inclined people in the field, but unfortunately many company don't work this way. For most, the only path of career after programming is management. That i assume if they survive the burnout. Because the job require us to, work late, deal with unreasonable deadline and requirement, learning opportunity is not as many, and not as appreciated for knowledge and skills. There is so much happening in IT, new tech, new skills, new tools. Yet the above reason will kill off the passion, the mood to actually learn all the new stuff. Or we simply will not have the time to actually learn that. This lead me believe that, it is better for people like us to start our own stuff. Yes it would require us to work a lot harder, more than a normal 9-6 day job, and we have learn stuff that we might not be passionate about, such as business skills, basic accounting. But I think this is worth it in a way that, we are working on stuff we passionate about, or learn and apply new knowledge which we probably never ever going to learn about in a normal day job anyway. p.s Or maybe I should start a programmer burnout anonymous malaysia. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Does anyone still code because of passion?
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:05 PM, CL Chow klrkdek...@gmail.com wrote: Haha, Uma, being honest or critics is no issue for me, What I mean by disgrace is disrespect of what technology is! Technologies are sacred!!! Regards, CL Chow Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org wrote: i remembered during schooling days that there is a E option for No to all the above that is the option that most people had chosen, i guess as for - Do we simply allow people to give us disgrace? there would be bloodbath if most people are taking this too seriously i know a country if you insult someone, you'll get beaten to death. Most of the time. It's nearby btw. On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 22:39 +0800, CL Chow wrote: Does anyone still do this these days? Does the market needs only drones? Or should we succumb to be drones just because we cannot fight the temptation of BREAD? Do we need more people who plays golf better than code in this field? Do we need to be guided and pampered so we can create our own Silicon Valley? Do we simply create a project just to get funding? Do we simply code because we need the money? Do we simply allow people to give us disgrace? How many of us are aware we are falling deeper into this eternal hole of no conscience? Can't we code simply we just like to code? Regards, CL Chow Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/; -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en What sacred scares people, it is the same of religion or sacred place. people still go, but not without fear or respect, it is not mutually exclusive. Technology on the other hand, sometime people fear it, use it, but rarely respect it. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] looking for file management solutions
The spec sound simple, but i got a feeling there is more to it. For one, the statement is a bit general. More detail is useful, such as what kind of functionality is expected. How the document is inputed into the system. How you expect to retrieve it, how it would look. All this is important, because it would be added to the amount of time needed, which would in turn, translated around the price of the system. just saying On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: yes, total solution. Everything A-Z, from system development to staff training. p/s: @MASOKIS O_O jgn panggil kak.. huhu *◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) **AC080144* *(3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS* *UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA* *012-5934575* From: linuxmalay...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:19:52 +0800 Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] looking for file management solutions To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Ni macam total solution. Daripada hendak masukkan dokumen ke sistem ke management of files. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:14 PM, MASOKIS maso...@gmail.com wrote: Salam kak Nor, nak buat aturcara / apps khas ke ? On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani nor.arl...@hotmail.com wrote: Salam and hello world Anyone interested in developing a file management solution for a judiciary Court House of Malaysia? Basically the jobs are to transfer all hard-copied docs into softcopies, put them up on a server or something, maintenance, and training for the staffs. Helping a family member here. I won't guarantee any business opportunity whatsoever (because the project is still an infant) but worth trying, eh? and yes, pardon me for my lack of knowledge in business terms =_= Email me your quotations, and I'll forward it to the appropriate person. thank you ◄► Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani (Ann) AC080144 (3SCB) Bsc Computer Science (Bioinformatics) FACULTY OF COMPUTER SCIENCE AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY MALAYSIA 012-5934575 -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
