[ozmidwifery] Big Baby 8kg born in Brazil
Quite a story!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4191765.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4191765.stm
RE: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes
Hi Michelle, Jo and Kristin, I would expect there to be a co-relation between maternal nutrition and strength or thickness of membranous sac, because in every other respect what a woman eats, drinks, smokes etc will impact on her tissue so it stands to reason doesn't it, though I don't recall seeing any scientific evidence on this previously, but I remember being told by an experienced homebirth midwife years ago that if a woman has a high vitamin C content in her diet then it's likely her membranes will be tough. Other aspects of a woman's environment will have an influence too, on how readily the membranes rupture such as intensity of contractions during labour or perhaps pre-labour if infection is present this is linked to weakening/rupturing the membranes. I'd say like most things it's a multi-faceted situation. Kristin, from a naturopathic point of view. what sorts of things will strengthen mucous membrane tissue? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle Windsor Sent: Monday, 22 January 2007 12:22 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I haven't heard of this Jo but did read something fairly recently (possibly on this list!) that women who took vitamin C were less likely to have pre-labour ruptured membranes. It is interesting that some women's membranes seem to break so easily, like when doing a VE and others stay intact until birth. Maybe there is a relation between maternal nutrition and the membranes. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: Jo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2007 10:07:14 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] * tough* membranes I have absolutely no data on this, but someone once told me it correlates with weight gain during pregnancy. Has anyone else heard of this? Jo On 21/01/2007, at 9:22 PM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Hi all, Can anyone comment on what makes the membranes 'tough'..ie. hard to break (AROM) or *slow* to break naturally ? (hard to measure yes) Does this exist or is it just something that happens? Many thanks, Kristin Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://g.msn.com/8HMBENAU/2746??PS=47575 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: [ozmidwifery] How do you deal with your fustrations?
Hi Rachael, I sometimes share your frustrations in wondering why on earth women choose OB's to care for them - particularly when they whinge about them so much! However what women are after is continuity of care because they want some feeling of certainty over who is going to be with them when they birth in short it gives them a feeling of security and the other main reason is the perceived quality of the care because an OB is regarded in Australia as the highest qualified of anyone to deal with pregnancy and birth. The other astonishing fact is that OB's don't even need to lift a finger to market themselves... it's all done for them by our medically supportive system. Yesterday I had a reunion with a group who had received mixed care; some by midwives some by private OB's and when they shared their stories and discovered such big differences in the way they had been cared for; the proof is in the pudding after all isn't it? A couple of them were saying I'm definitely going to a birth centre or have midwifery care next time! You might ask well why didn't they learn about this in the preparation classes, well they did, but they often say they are not able to change late in the pregnancy because they have already paid completely up front well in advance to the OB and they worry about getting their money back, they assume they can't, or they cannot get into a midwifery program or a birth centre at a very late stage of pregnancy. The reunion confirms a lot for them as they share their stories, one of the lovely couples yesterday had had a wonderful homebirth with the terrific midwives at St George hospital and the rest of the group were thrilled for them and listened to all the details It was a wonderful 6 hour labour, relaxing in a pool in the lounge room and the midwife just stayed quietly next to me and it was very peaceful... Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rachael Austin Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 10:19 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] How do you deal with your fustrations? I get so fustrated when I know people who choose subordinate (in my opinion) levels of care. What I mean is, healthy women who choose care under an obstetrician. They get roped into the high tech repeated u/s, monitoring, for the just in case ignorant way of thinking. They end up having highly intervened vaginal births (but they see as 'natural birth' because it is vaginal) or worse a necessary unnecessary cs. Does this make sense? I have been up most of the night stewing over this, because a 4 of my rellies have recently choosen this type of care to end up with the same results... and they think I'm weird because I choose to birth at home! OK so I'm a midwife (new at the game, but still), so maybe the extra knowledge helped me to make 'good' or appropriate choices for me, but what stops women from investigating choices for themselves? Why do they so blindly give themselves to medical men in every sense of the word? Do women really believe that they don't have the power to birth themselves and that they really need help? Do they really think nature got it that wrong? AHH!! How do you get 'over it'? How do you talk with these women about birth in social conversatin without lecturing them? Hope this makes sense.. i'm tired! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry
Dear Barb, This looks very promising below, what are you hoping will come of it? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris Bright Sent: Friday, 8 December 2006 6:44 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding - Parliamentary inquiry # House of Representatives - Email alert service # Issued by: House of Representatives Liaison Projects Office, Wednesday 6 December 2006 Parliament launches new inquiry into breastfeeding Chairman of the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Health and Ageing, Alex Somlyay, today announced a new parliamentary inquiry into the health benefits of breastfeeding. Mr Somlyay said that the Committee will examine how the Australian government can take a lead role to improve the health of the population through support for breastfeeding. There is considerable evidence suggesting the health of the Australian population may be improved by increasing the rate of breastfeeding, Mr Somlyay said. The committee will be looking at the potential effects on the long term sustainability of Australia's health system. In 2001, approximately 54 per cent of babies were fully breastfed at 3 months of age or less, compared with around 32 per cent of infants by 6 months of age or less. Rates of breastfeeding vary between different population groups. It is worth noting that there is anecdotal evidence that new mothers are not being closely supported or greatly encouraged to persist with breastfeeding, Mr Somlyay said. The public perception is that breastfeeding is not necessarily accepted as the most desirable way of nourishing young babies or preventing long term health problems. The Committee invites public submissions by 28 February 2007 on: How the Commonwealth government can take a lead role to improve the health of the Australian population through support for breastfeeding, with particular consideration to: * The extent of the health benefits of breastfeeding; * Evaluate the impact of marketing of breast milk substitutes on breastfeeding rates and, in particular, in disadvantaged, Indigenous and remote communities; * The potential short and long term impact on the health of Australians of increasing the rate of breastfeeding; * Initiatives to encourage breastfeeding; * Examine the effectiveness of current measures to promote breastfeeding; and * The impact of breastfeeding on the long term sustainability of Australia's health system. For media interview with the Chairman: Please contact the Committee Secretary on 02 6277 4145. For a copy of the terms of reference and further information on making a submission: contact the Committee secretariat on (02) 6277 4145 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit the website at http://www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/haa www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/haa Issued by: Andrew Dawson, media adviser, Liaison Projects Office, House of Representatives Tel: (02) 6277 2063 wk, 0401 143 724 mob. Have you got About the House magazine yet? Barb Glare Mum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3 Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ph (03) 5565 8602 Director, Australian Breastfeeding Association Mothers Direct www.mothersdirect.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] Australian Birth Post-Natal Services Conference 2007
Dear Kelly, I am very impressed with your approach for this new conference, and I look forward to the changes and improvements it will create in it's wake. The link at the bottom of the page didn't work for me but the link at the top did provide the conference information correctly. I'll look forward to attending, regards, Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Zantey Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 5:14 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Australian Birth Post-Natal Services Conference 2007 Firstly I just want to note that Andrea has okay'ed me posting this message :-) Australian Birth Post-Natal Services Conference 2007 I'd just like to let everyone know that the Australian Birth Post Natal Conference is now taking registrations: http://www.abpnsconference2007.com.au http://www.abpnsconference2007.com.au/ I'm pleased to announce that Senator Lyn Allison, the leader of the Australian Democrats and Health Spokesperson has accepted the invitation to come and speak, as well as many other wonderful speakers who you may not know by name, but they are experts in their own right, in a range of areas including marketing, public speaking, PR, lobbying, professional image and much more. I'm even had a few words from our very own Andrea Robertson who has much experience on the business side of birth post-natal services, to share her experiences. I know you'll get so much out of this conference, which promises to be a life-changing event, and to help birth post-natal services become a force to be reckoned with :-) Please pass the details on to all working in this amazing industry, and let's get serious about change, it's time for action. It's not going to happen on it's own, so lets make it happen - the easiest, most professional way possible. It's all about working smarter and not harder and the speakers I have lined up have been chosen so we can do exactly that. The Top Ten Excuses Not to Attend This Conference 1. Oh no - not another conference! 2. I already have more ideas than I can use. 3. I've heard enough of Kelly Zantey to last two life times. 4. I'm too busy already. 5. I know everything already. 6. I can't afford it anyway. 7. I don't believe a word you say. 8. What you teach won't work for me. 9. My wife or husband won't let me. 10.Aww blimey, I couldn't even think of 10 Excuse #1 - This is NOT just another conference. That's the whole point; it's an unlocking of secrets of success of epic proportions showcased for the very first time to the birth post-natal services industry. It only takes one good idea to make this worth it for you. We know you'll get more than one. Excuse #2 - This conference isn't necessarily about more ideas. It's about implementation. There is also the light bulb phenomenon. You can know about a strategy, hear about it repeatedly, but still not have it really click for you. Then there is that one magic moment, 'Ah Ha' or blinding flash of the obvious, where somebody says it in a different way and suddenly you get it, own it and can act upon it. Can't and won't happen if you're watching Big Brother on TV. Excuse #3 - What can I possibly get from Kelly Zantey? Hey if you think you've heard enough from me, I understand that. This conference is NOT about me. There will be many expert speakers in their field, who I have asked to share their wisdom of what they do. You are the expert in what you do; they are the expert in what they do. You will hear many concepts, breakthroughs and opportunities covered, some of which have never been in the spotlight before. I'll make you re-evaluate, reconsider, re-invent, re-engineer, and even re-invigorate. The fact is, it's only when a person wants, needs and most of all appreciates this help, that you can really help them. Excuse #4 - You're too busy. It's how you work and what you work on that's important. Being too busy is really a bad excuse. Many of us get caught up in the trap of expending ever increasing effort, for ever diminishing results, or burning out. If that's you, boy oh boy, you do need to attend! Excuse #5 - I know too much already. The more successful you are the quicker and easier it is to get a return on your investment, because even tiny tweaks can equate to big differences, just as tiny holes can sink big ships. Years back it was pointed out to me that the person who can read but doesn't is no better off than the illiterate. Similarly, the person who knows about a certain marketing strategy but doesn't
RE: [ozmidwifery] interesting article 2
Hi Mary, Yes it is an interesting article of opinion; it makes me feel sick that there is not one word about safety, outcomes, maternal morbidity, maternal mortality And then the statement: the cesarean rate is a consequence of individual value-laden clinical decisions, and that it is not amenable to the methods of evidence-based medicine. Is reflective of the lack of professional accountability within the obstetric field they are unable and unwilling to perform to recommended standards, particularly when the rewards are financial and legal security. It worries me that an opinion paper can be published in a journal of strong influence and yet omit these serious and important details. What is also interesting is that many lay people are quite aware, even before they attend classes, of the above concerns. In a group situation, there is always an interesting mix of people from all sorts of different backgrounds, and once they start talking specifically about medical interventions, within minutes the above issues emerge, so in my opinion unethical Obstetricians and their unethical supporters, can avoid the truth of the matter as much as they like, but it will only serve in the long term to completely undermine the respect that the community has had for them in the past and replace it with distrust. Warm hug Julie www.julieclarke.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 7:26 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] interesting article 2 CLINICAL OPINION American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology (2006) 194, 9326 Myth of the ideal cesarean section rate: Commentary and historic perspective Ronald M. Cyr, MD* Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI Received for publication July 10, 2005; revised September 12, 2005; accepted October 8, 2005 KEY WORDS Cesarean section rate Myth History of cesarean section John Whitridge Williams Evidence-based medicine Attempts to define, or enforce, an ideal cesarean section rate are futile, and should be abandoned. The cesarean rate is a consequence of individual value-laden clinical decisions, and is not amenable to the methods of evidence-based medicine. The influence of academic authority figures on the cesarean rate in the US is placed in historic context. Like other population health indices, the cesarean section rate is an indirect result of American public policy during the last century. Without major changes in the way health and maternity care are delivered in the US, the rate will continue to increase without improving population outcomes. _ 2006 Mosby, Inc. All rights reserved. Since the earliest days of the modern cesarean sectiondthe 1880sdthere has raged within the profession a debate about the appropriate indications for this operation.1,2 For several decades after the availability of antibiotics and blood banking, the cesarean section rate in the US remained in the 4% to 6% range. Between 1968 and 1978, the rate tripled to 15.2%, and discussion of cesarean section moved permanently into the public domain. A 1981 report commissioned by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) expressed concern about the rising rate, and its recommendations for reducing cesareans included qualified support for VBAC.3 By the 1990s, individual hospital cesarean section and VBAC rates were being published, and interpreted by consumer groups as indicators of obstetric care quality. In 1991, the Healthy People 2000 initiative advocated a 15% cesarean rate as a US health promotion objective by the year 2000.4 Despite expert and lay opinion that many cesareans are unnecessary, the rate continues to increase in the USdexceeding 27% in 2004dand shows no sign of abating.5,6 Indeed, there is growing discussion and acceptance of patient-choice cesarean section as a legitimate birth option.7,8 A recent editorial opined that Its time to target a new cesarean delivery rate.9 It is the premise of this essay that attempts to define, or enforce, an ideal cesarean section rate are futile, and should be abandoned. It will be argued that the cesarean rate is a consequence of individual value-laden clinical decisions, and that it is not amenable to the methods of evidence-based medicine. The influence of academic authority figures on the cesarean rate in the US will be placed in historic context. Like other population health indices, the cesarean section rate is an indirect result of American public policy during the last century. Without Dr Cyr is the 2003 ACOG/ORTHO-McNEIL Fellow in the History of American Obstetrics and Gynecology. * Reprint requests: Ronald M. Cyr, MD, Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Michigan, 1500 E Medical Center Drive, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0276. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Awareness Week
Dear Jo, I was sorry to read of your mum passing away, please accept my sympathy, and a heartfelt message that I am certain your mum would have been very very proud of you and all that you have achieved and your own wonderful mothering, she would have gone to her grave very satisfied with the success she had in raising a wonderful daughter, I hope you have had lots of support, Warm hugs Julie x Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of jo Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 1:15 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Awareness Week Hi all, Just a quick reminder that HBAW is looming again Oct 25th 31st. If each of you could organise some sort of awareness raising in your own communities or have the local paper cover a homebirth story and write to Tony Abbott asking for affordable access to homebirth it would be a wonderful start. I had big ideas of screening Birthrites and having an education day in Sydney, unfortunately my dear mum passed away without warning and way too prematurely and I dont have the energy or enthusiasm to get something off the ground at present. Would be wonderful if anyone who does have the energy could organise something and let HBA know what you are doing so we can advertise it on our website. Warm regards Jo Hunter National Convenor HBA Coordinator HAS Innate Birth CBE and doula
RE: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding
Yes very impressive thank you Barb for passing it along to us I have just sent the link to a group I had the other night who commented they were concerned about remembering what Id told them on the art of breastfeeding so what a help to support the info in pre-natal classes. Heres a copy Hi everyone, If you were concerned about the art of breastfeeding and trying to remember many of the points Ive passed on to you, Im delighted to be able to present you with this link below to a excellent booklet by the dept of Health on breastfeeding. Its very well laid out, easy to read, and covers the basics. http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/pubs/2006/pdf/breastfeeding_booklet.pdf You may have noticed they refer to ABA Australias Breastfeeding Association www.breastfeeding.asn.au As well as Breastfeeding with Confidence by Sue Cox this is available from Mothers Direct www.mothersdirect.com.au Or Finch Publishers www.finch.com Kind regards, Julie Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.julieclarke.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris Bright Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 7:50 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] New South Wales Health Booklet on Breastfeeding HI, Very impressive http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/pubs/2006/pdf/breastfeeding_booklet.pdf Barb Glare Mum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3 Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ph (03) 5565 8602 Director, Australian Breastfeeding Association Mothers Direct www.mothersdirect.com.au
[ozmidwifery] pregnancy
Hi ozmid wise women, I have just become acquainted with a woman who is pregnant and in a brief conversation she informed me that her mother died during childbirth whilst giving birth to her. I dont know anymore than this for now as the opportunity to ask further questions didnt rise. I cannot help but think about what this might feel like to this pregnant woman and I wondered if anyone else on this list has encountered this situation before and if you could share some words of wisdom. My heart really goes out to her and if I get the chance in future conversations I would really like to be able to help her in a sensitive way. Any thoughts? Warm hug Julie
RE: [ozmidwifery] Sex to bring on labour
Hi Amanda, Giggle giggle I have just been imagining how these studies have been conducted! I find it very amusing - yes I think you are quite correct in suggesting these studies might be flawed in some way... Giggle giggle Warm hug Julie www.julieclarke.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2006 8:01 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Sex to bring on labour Hi all wise ones, I have just read in the latest 'Good Medicine' magazine that quote having sex in late pregnancy to bring on labour is an old wives tale unquote. Can anyone please shed light on this as I though it did assist with bringing on labour due to the release of prostaglandin containing semen up near the cervix along with nipple stimulation and orgasms. However I have just read a few studies that have recently been done on this subject and still am not convinced that it is just an old wives tale. I can't help but think their studies may be flawed in some way. Any comments? Cheers Amanda. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Nestle - take note of the last line -
Nestle increases first-half profits Source: VEVEY AP Date: 2006-Aug-24 07:01 AM Nestle SA, the world's biggest food and drink company, has reported an 11 per cent rise in first-half net profit thanks to cost cutting and internal growth despite higher raw material prices. The company, which has brands such as Nescafe, Perrier and Dreyer's, said net profit increased to 4.15 billion Swiss francs ($A4.44 billion) from 3.73 billion francs in 2005, exceeding analyst expectations of about 4.09 billion francs. Nestle, which does not report quarterly earnings figures, said slow demand in Europe was widely offset by a strong performance in emerging markets and the United States. During the first half of 2006 the group delivered excellent levels of growth and profit margin, said Chairman and Chief Executive Peter Brabeck-Letmathe. This was made possible by the strong performance of our food, beverage and nutrition business which generated 6 per cent organic growth. Organic growth is one of the company's main performance yardsticks. This measure, which includes price increases but not the effects of acquisitions, rose to 6.4 per cent, compared with 5.6 per cent in 2005. Analysts had expected 6.3 per cent. Nestle shares closed up 2.3 per cent at 417.75 francs on the Zurich stock exchange. It's the first time in the past few quarters Nestle has clearly surpassed consensus estimates in terms of organic growth and operating margin, Zuercher Kantonalbank analyst Patrik Schwendimann said. The company reiterated that it aims to improve the operating profit margin for the full year at constant currencies. It slightly upgraded its organic growth estimate for the full year, saying it now expects that figure to be on the higher end of its long-standing 5 per cent to 6 per cent target range. Sales grew 11 per cent to 47.14 billion francs from 42.47 billion francs, the company said. Analysts had expected 47.05 billion francs. Earnings before interest and taxes rose 14.5 per cent to 6.05 billion francs from 5.29 billion francs. The company is considering another share buyback after the current 3 billion franc program, which is almost finished, Chief Financial Officer Paul Polman said in a conference call. If nothing extraordinary happens, there is no reason why we couldn't continue with buybacks, he said. Polman said that Nestle was not looking at major acquisitions at the moment. He said the company will pay more than 1 billion francs later this year for several small-sized acquisitions that were arranged in the last six months. Included is the purchase of the US-based weight-management company Jenny Craig for around $US600 million. Polman said it will take time to get baby milk sales in China back to the previous level after the collapse that followed Nestle's recall last year because the product exceeded government limits on iodine content.
[ozmidwifery] Nestle - take note of the last line -
Sorry the last line was missing here it is see below Nestle increases first-half profits Source: VEVEY AP Date: 2006-Aug-24 07:01 AM Nestle SA, the world's biggest food and drink company, has reported an 11 per cent rise in first-half net profit thanks to cost cutting and internal growth despite higher raw material prices. The company, which has brands such as Nescafe, Perrier and Dreyer's, said net profit increased to 4.15 billion Swiss francs ($A4.44 billion) from 3.73 billion francs in 2005, exceeding analyst expectations of about 4.09 billion francs. Nestle, which does not report quarterly earnings figures, said slow demand in Europe was widely offset by a strong performance in emerging markets and the United States. During the first half of 2006 the group delivered excellent levels of growth and profit margin, said Chairman and Chief Executive Peter Brabeck-Letmathe. This was made possible by the strong performance of our food, beverage and nutrition business which generated 6 per cent organic growth. Organic growth is one of the company's main performance yardsticks. This measure, which includes price increases but not the effects of acquisitions, rose to 6.4 per cent, compared with 5.6 per cent in 2005. Analysts had expected 6.3 per cent. Nestle shares closed up 2.3 per cent at 417.75 francs on the Zurich stock exchange. It's the first time in the past few quarters Nestle has clearly surpassed consensus estimates in terms of organic growth and operating margin, Zuercher Kantonalbank analyst Patrik Schwendimann said. The company reiterated that it aims to improve the operating profit margin for the full year at constant currencies. It slightly upgraded its organic growth estimate for the full year, saying it now expects that figure to be on the higher end of its long-standing 5 per cent to 6 per cent target range. Sales grew 11 per cent to 47.14 billion francs from 42.47 billion francs, the company said. Analysts had expected 47.05 billion francs. Earnings before interest and taxes rose 14.5 per cent to 6.05 billion francs from 5.29 billion francs. The company is considering another share buyback after the current 3 billion franc program, which is almost finished, Chief Financial Officer Paul Polman said in a conference call. If nothing extraordinary happens, there is no reason why we couldn't continue with buybacks, he said. Polman said that Nestle was not looking at major acquisitions at the moment. He said the company will pay more than 1 billion francs later this year for several small-sized acquisitions that were arranged in the last six months. Included is the purchase of the US-based weight-management company Jenny Craig for around $US600 million. Polman said it will take time to get baby milk sales in China back to the previous level after the collapse that followed Nestle's recall last year because the product exceeded government limits on iodine content.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Nestle - take note of the last line -
Yes Amy same thing happened to me had to forward it or hit reply to get the full story weird - but I am glad you eventually found the last line J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of adamnamy Sent: Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:41 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Nestle - take note of the last line - This is a bit odd. I could only read 3 paragraphs in both your emails until I clicked reply to respond when the whole article appearedbelow. Anywayarent they shameless with their aggressive marketing of a second rate product. Amy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Clarke Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:39 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Nestle - take note of the last line - Nestle increases first-half profits Source: VEVEY AP Date: 2006-Aug-24 07:01 AM Nestle SA, the world's biggest food and drink company, has reported an 11 per cent rise in first-half net profit thanks to cost cutting and internal growth despite higher raw material prices. The company, which has brands such as Nescafe, Perrier and Dreyer's, said net profit increased to 4.15 billion Swiss francs ($A4.44 billion) from 3.73 billion francs in 2005, exceeding analyst expectations of about 4.09 billion francs. Nestle, which does not report quarterly earnings figures, said slow demand in Europe was widely offset by a strong performance in emerging markets and the United States. During the first half of 2006 the group delivered excellent levels of growth and profit margin, said Chairman and Chief Executive Peter Brabeck-Letmathe. This was made possible by the strong performance of our food, beverage and nutrition business which generated 6 per cent organic growth. Organic growth is one of the company's main performance yardsticks. This measure, which includes price increases but not the effects of acquisitions, rose to 6.4 per cent, compared with 5.6 per cent in 2005. Analysts had expected 6.3 per cent. Nestle shares closed up 2.3 per cent at 417.75 francs on the Zurich stock exchange. It's the first time in the past few quarters Nestle has clearly surpassed consensus estimates in terms of organic growth and operating margin, Zuercher Kantonalbank analyst Patrik Schwendimann said. The company reiterated that it aims to improve the operating profit margin for the full year at constant currencies. It slightly upgraded its organic growth estimate for the full year, saying it now expects that figure to be on the higher end of its long-standing 5 per cent to 6 per cent target range. Sales grew 11 per cent to 47.14 billion francs from 42.47 billion francs, the company said. Analysts had expected 47.05 billion francs. Earnings before interest and taxes rose 14.5 per cent to 6.05 billion francs from 5.29 billion francs. The company is considering another share buyback after the current 3 billion franc program, which is almost finished, Chief Financial Officer Paul Polman said in a conference call. If nothing extraordinary happens, there is no reason why we couldn't continue with buybacks, he said. Polman said that Nestle was not looking at major acquisitions at the moment. He said the company will pay more than 1 billion francs later this year for several small-sized acquisitions that were arranged in the last six months. Included is the purchase of the US-based weight-management company Jenny Craig for around $US600 million. Polman said it will take time to get baby milk sales in China back to the previous level after the collapse that followed Nestle's recall last year because the product exceeded government limits on iodine content.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info required
Hi Cath, I dont know anything about him and would not pass judgment on a person on a public forum anyway (or possibly privately either), so what Id suggest is to consider the idea that he/or a colleague in his field might be against midwifery led care and think through all the possible arguments that might be put forth such as perceived insufficient midwifery training or perceived insufficient midwifery experience or perceived insufficient confidence professionally for midwives in Australia and then develop counter arguments to put forth, particularly with regard to the wonderful work being done currently for midwifery in Australia refer to ACMI. Warm hug Julie From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of cath nolan Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 10:29 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info required - Original Message - From: cath nolan To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: info required I will be meeting with Peter Miourik(obstetrician) amongst others in an informal dinner setting on Friday night as the hospital that I work at is having a review of obstetric services . I believe this is a man who is quite against midwifery led services and I'm a bit puzzled as to why I have been asked to be one of the 2 midwifery reps at this dinner. But very pleased at the same time, and more than happy to be a part of this. Can anyone fill me in on what they know of this man? Cath.
[ozmidwifery] Two little kids
Two little kids are in a hospital, lying on stretchersnext to each other, outside the operating room. The first kid leans over and asks, What are you inhere for? The second kid says, I'm in here to get my tonsilsout and I'm a little nervous. The first kid says, You've got nothing to worryabout. I had that done when I was four. They put you to sleep, andwhenyou wake up they give you lots ofJell-O and ice cream. It's a breeze The second kid then asks, What are you here for? The first kid says, A circumcision. The second kid replies, Whoa, good luck buddy, I hadthat done when Iwas born. Couldn't walk for a year.
RE: [ozmidwifery] SMH: Midwife-led births seen as safe and cheap
Hi Janet I agree with you that even a hugely positive article is often given a negative slant - I think it's completely intentional by the editor of the newspaper to stimulate more interest in the newspaper - it's all about increasing sales and having the biggest circulation to drive up the advertising dollar - it's got very little to do with informing the community in an ethical way. Very frustrating! J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 10:41 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SMH: Midwife-led births seen as safe and cheap It amazes me how positive articles can be given a neatly hidden negative slant. It just goes to show who's really in charge of the discourse and agenda around birth in this country, doesn't it? After all, we have countless studies demonstrating much of what happens in hospitals has no evidence base to it, or a spurious one at best, at yet it all still occurs. There is no incentive to lower c-sec rates or provide optimal care to women. If govts were really serious about saving money (and lives) our c-sec rate wouldn't be 1 in 3 or 1 in 2 and people would notice that those who stand to make most money from birthing women are the ones protesting when the rate goes down. J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] keeping up to date
Keeping up to date on the research. By Teri Shilling, MS, IBCLC, CD(DONA), LCCE One of the biggest challenges of being an effective childbirth educator is keeping up with the research. Its imperative for educators to know what is being examined and published and many times misinterpreted by the media. Subscribing to a lot of peer-reviewed research journals can be costly, in both time and money. Lamaze International has created a quick and easy solution to that quarterly you can get an email from the Lamaze Institute for Normal Birth. Amy Romano, CNM, is the editor and she keeps her pulse on all the research and then picks the top studies that impact or support normal birth. She summarizes the study and then highlights what the impact may be on normal birth. To receive this quarterly newsletter, just go to http://www.lamaze.org/institute/advancing/rsnb.asp?parent=13 and sign up. No strings attached. Previous issues are also available. If the url changes which in the world of the internet happens a lot, start at www.lamaze.org. Click on the Institute for Normal Birth and you will find it there. You will also find the discussion board that is facilitated by Henci Goer and other great resources. What is normal birth? The World Health Organization met and started to define the care practices that support normal birth. When the preliminary article was initially published in the BIRTH journal, Lamaze tweaked the most important care practices and started to promote them. These six care practices are: labor begins on its own, freedom of movement, continuous labor support, no routine interventions, non-supine position for birth, no separation of mother and baby and unlimited opportunity for breastfeeding. Often times many people have an outdated image of Lamaze. There have been a mountain of changes and its worth getting to know what Lamaze of this century is about and what resources they have made available to improve all childbirth educators and ultimately birth for all women. with a passion for birth, Teri Shilling, ms, cd(dona), ibclc, lcce http://www.passionforbirth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 76 Fairway Dr., Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 1-866-P4BIRTH
RE: [ozmidwifery] article FYI
Dear Leanne of Women's Business, Thank you for consistently sending to ozmid very interesting articles. This most recent article about bottle feeding and alcoholism backs up the idea of the baby bonding to the bottle instead of an emotional relationship with a human. Very interesting indeed - the benefits of breastfeeding go way beyond the contents, Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leanne wynne Sent: Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:26 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] article FYI Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 Breast-Feeding Duration Linked to Alcoholism in Adulthood Reuters Health Information 2006. C 2006 Reuters Ltd. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. Reuters and the Reuters sphere logo are registered trademarks and trademarks of the Reuters group of companies around the world. NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Apr 21 - Early weaning, along with a number of factors, appears to predispose adults to alcohol abuse and hospitalization for an alcohol-related diagnosis, according to data from the Copenhagen Perinatal Cohort. Previous research demonstrated a link between short duration of breast-feeding and alcoholism in men, Dr. Holger J. Sorenson and colleagues at Copenhagen University and the US examined this relationship in a larger cohort that included women and took into account other environmental and familial factors. The Copenhagen Perinatal Cohort includes 3245 men and 3317 women born between 1959 and 1961. Thirty-four percent of offspring had been breast-fed for no more than 1 month, according to the report in the American Journal of Psychiatry for April. After follow-up through 1999, the researchers found that 98 men (4%) and 40 women (1.2%) were hospitalized with an alcohol-related diagnosis. Of the 138 cases, 2.8% were weaned by 1 month and 1.7% were breast-fed for longer periods (odds ratio 1.65). The investigators report that significant predictors in the multivariate model were male gender, maternal prenatal smoking, unwanted pregnancy (at the time of conception), maternal psychiatric hospitalization for alcohol abuse, maternal psychiatric hospitalization with other diagnoses, and low parental social status when the child was 1 year old. After controlling for all covariates, there was still an increased likelihood of alcohol abuse associated with early weaning (odds ratio 1.47). Dr. Sorenson's group proposes several factors that could explain the relationship between early weaning and alcohol abuse, such as decreased physical and psychological contact between the mother and the infant. The researchers add that low intelligence and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder are associated with short duration of breast-feeding, and may increase the risk of alcoholism. They also note that breast milk contains long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids and that a decrease could affect brain development. Am J Psychiatry 2006;163:704-709. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centres in West NSW?
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centres in West NSW? Jo is right, I too have supported at several hospitals over nearly 20 years and I am breath-taken at the wonderful attitude of the midwives and doctors at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital at Camperdown perhaps this is as a result of tv cameras on site from time to time I dont know why they are just exceptional with their care and respect. I was in there a couple of months ago with a woman who was not progressing past 8-9 cms and the midwife contacted the doctor and my heart sank and I thought Oh great I wonder what awful things are going to be said to her now but I was completely wrong the doctor was very kind, gentle, caring, completely empathetic and very motivated to keep the birth as normal as possible gave great insights and suggestions and respected the womens wishes entirely I know its sad that I was so surprised by this because I certainly have not seen it to this extent before anyway we needed more intervention and transfer etc and the rest of the midwives and doctors in the delivery suite where equally and genuinely caring. I was very pleased for the woman that although her journey did not take her where she wanted to go she was exceptionally well cared for and I consider this to be an important factor in reducing the risk of PND for her. Yes I would also encourage women to travel the distance they need to for such professional care. Waterbirth is an option in the delivery suite as well as the birth centre all the staff are trained and competent with waterbirth its not Russian roulette at RPA. Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of jo Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2006 9:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centres in West NSW? Ive supported a few times at Blacktown. The Birth Centre is a room down the hall off the same corridor as the labour ward rooms. There are no pools, just normal sized baths and as far as I know (correct me if Im wrong) it depends if the midwife on shift is comfortable supporting water births as to whether she would get one or not. I have also supported heaps of women at Nepean, yes there are baths but again it depends on the midwife on shift if a water birth is possible. It is a large tertiary hospital and even with a doula it is difficult to get around protocols and procedures REALLY hard to get a physiological 3rd stage. Why not travel into RPA, its in the inner west, it takes me 50 mins to drive there from the Blue Mtns so depending where she is it may be doable. If she wants further info on local resources you are more than welcome to pass on my email address. Good luck. jo From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Justine Caines Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2006 9:15 PM To: OzMid List Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centres in West NSW? There is a Birth Centre at Blacktown and at Auburn Also one at Bankstown Bankstown Hospital is an un-sung hero Have a look at the NSW Mothers and Babies Report. Bankstown has a 4% epidural rate (Go beat that!) They have some wonderful midwives and lovely water births. Jan Robinson had a client who birthed twins in water there!! (Must say Im impressed) Why not employ an IPM and Birth at the Birth Centre?? This would ensure continuity but enable the location the woman is comfortable in. E-mail off list for some contacts. JC
RE: [ozmidwifery] For Julie Clarke...
Hi Tania Normally the midwives would guide the woman as to which courses are available for her in her area, otherwise contacting the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital at Camperdown particularly the birth centre midwives and asking for a listing of the local cbes will reveal who is local then with appropriate questioning she can select one suitable for preparing for homebirth. The yoga association provides the listings for all areas. www.homebirthsydney.or.au provides all suitable homebirth contacts. There is also the eastern suburbs homebirth group to join details on website. Hope this all helps. Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Tania Smallwood Sent: Sunday, 30 April 2006 10:09 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] For Julie Clarke... Hi there, Query for Julie and any others that might have information about antenatal education in the Dulwich Hill area of Sydney? Are there any groups, yoga centres, antenatal courses or classes, or information nights that a rellie of mine could attend in that area? Shes due in August, birthing at home with the midwifery group at the King George (or is it the St George?) Thanks Tania -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] BF videos
Could it be Breastfeeding: Babies Choice http://www.acegraphics.com.au/product/video/vt038.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceri Katrina Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2006 5:36 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BF videos not sure of the title, but an awesome video. Babies are so clever!!! We watched it in the early days of our middy training and it was a real eye opener! Very inspiring Katrina On 25/04/2006, at 1:37 PM, Jo Watson wrote: I don't know what it's called, but the one where the freshly newborn baby crawls up the mother's abdomen and attaches itself to the breast without any help is awesome. Made me cry! Hopefully someone else knows the name of it? Jo On 25/04/2006, at 9:59 AM, Kristin Beckedahl wrote: Can anyone recommend a really good BF video..?? I have only seen Follow Me Mum which I liked very much (altho the bub was not newborn?). Are there any other good ones to chase up? Thanks -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] reducing c.section rates?
Hi Nicole If I remember correctly the Australian Government also did that a few years ago; took the financial incentive away from doctors, by equalizing Medicare payments for vaginal and c.section births, however the lobby group to represent doctors to the government threatened walk outs to such an extent that the Medicare payment was increased again for c.sections. A Professor of Obstetrics told me once he felt confident the best way to reduce the unnecessarily high c.section rate was to introduce a peer review system where each obstetrician would explain the reason to his peers for each of his/her c.sections performed. Warm hug Julie Clarke -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nicole and gareth Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:44 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: theatre greens An obst from argentina recently told me that to lower the countries ridiculously high caesar rate the government made the schedule benefits (as in money given for procedure) the same for both c/s and vaginal birth, c/s rate dropped very quickly! nicole -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] seeking natural active birth classes in the Newcastle area?
Hi sister listers, I have been asked for a referral to natural active birth classes in the Newcastle area Can anyone help please? Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
[ozmidwifery] National Association of Childbirth Educators website
Hi fellow listers, Just letting you know the National Association of Childbirth and Parenting Educators has a website up and running again. Membership details are available Visit www.nace.org.au Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] Sunrise
Hi Pinky and fellow listers, I find this aspect of broken connections quite disturbing, as I'm sure you do too, from the point of view of pregnant couples in groups they often have friends/acquaintances who have been to baby boot camp/ severe sleep school as they call it, and their friends say it was miraculous and recommend it as a definite YES! What worries me of course from the baby's aspect is the broken bond with the mum and dad - the lack of trust and connection - which we so need as parents to get through the challenges of childhood and adolescence. From the mother's point of view the broken connection, breaking the bond of care and sensitivity towards her babe, reducing the mother's intuition, reducing her nurturing role and her confidence can leave the relationship in tatters, needing repairing. In pre-natal groups (classes) there has evolved the need to explain the damage to the infant who instead of learning/experiencing loving trusting relationships as a newborn/young child learns to self settle and become detached/isolated from a young age. I will often ask my groups Do you know anyone as an adult who you cannot possibly get close to... who is cold and detached... who you couldn't feel comfortable reaching out to with a touch or to offer a hug? They all seem to get it with that question. I see them nodding their heads, thinking about it and often coming back with a variety of comments and endorsements of loving caring families. From a global perspective I wonder is it the lack of community that contributes to the perceived need for controlled crying or does controlled crying and rigid routines - creating detachment - lead towards the lack of community as some people describe these days. I feel very comfortable remaining with the notion of reading baby's signals and meeting their needs in an environment of reasonable support and this is a strong focus in my groups. Warm hug, Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pinky mckay Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2006 3:12 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Sunrise Tracy Hogg from the Uk ( who actually wrote The Baby Whisperer) did die last year BUT there are many people who claim to be baby whisperers - - usually childless themselves - not that that is always bad but how can you understand the hormonal mummy mindset that gears us up to respond to our babies when they are OUR OWN babies - so tug at OUR heartstrings? It is easy to say let them protest/ cry/ wait when they are not YOUR baby and you dont have that exquisite connection. Pinky - Original Message - From: Jane Wines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sunrise I thought she had died last year? Is that the one from the UK - I'm sure she had a heart attack!! Jane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 7:34 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Sunrise The baby whisperer was on Sunrise this morning - did anyone see it? Touting strict day time routines to make your baby sleep all night. You *need* to do [this] etc. No mention that every baby is different. I'm sure there would be a transcript of it up somewhere if anyone's interested. I haven't decided what to write in my email to them yet ;) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] homebirth
Thought this might be of interest: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/03/us/03midwife.html?ex=1301716800en=ad90d0e b1ccc33a9ei=5088partner=rssnytemc=rss -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains
A bright lovely good morning to you all, In all of my groups, after fully explaining informed choice, I explain that there are three options for the women when choosing the way she would like to birth her placenta: 1. medically managed with an injection given into the thigh which will induce an artificially strong contraction to hasten the expulsion of the placenta and reduce excessive blood loss and this would be very appropriate for someone who is high risk for example; a smoker, a woman who drank alcohol very regularly throughout the later part of pregnancy, an anemic woman, those who have already had medical intervention such as an epidural, induction, etc. 2. to decline the injection 3. to take the wait and see approach... explaining to the midwife at the time (and write in the birth plan so partner understands... I would prefer to avoid the injection as a routine injection, preferring instead to hold my baby at my breast, to naturally stimulate oxytocin to expel my placenta, but am prepared to receive the injection if it is medically necessary for a big bleed I also explain the normal blood loss is 300 to 500 mls of blood and an excessive blood loss would be 600mls+ which would require an injection. There are three injections which are available for a pph or big bleed and they are Syntocinon, syntometrine and ergometrine, each one increasing in intensity and side effects such as nausea. I then simply explain that most women describe a normal physiological third stage as mild period pain, however usually this pain will increase with each subsequent baby and/or with medical intervention. As for after pains over the next 24-48 hours I am always careful to point out that this is normal and women are less likely to be overly concerned about it when they are very familiar with the very positive fact that it is the uterus returning back down to it's normal size... and that this is a very good thing and it is what a woman wants. It seems to me that with good strong positive reinforcement women recognise the benefits of normality - and keeping birth as normal as possible. I feel completely comfortable in emphasizing normality as the best, safest, and worth striving towards compared to routine or encouraged by friends (epidural), medical intervention. Warm hug to all, Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lindsay Kennedy Sent: Monday, 3 April 2006 6:15 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains Just a couple of thoughts. 1 Despite a 30min limit they cannot give you treatment without your consent. So as long as you arn't bleeding out you can take longer to deliver your placenta. Logic dictates you arn't going to refuse treatment if this becomes essential and you can always change to active managment if this really become necessary. 2 Early breastfeeding is good for you and for your baby and will probably help deliver your placenta sooner. On 4/3/06, Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Physiological 3rd stage is usual in homebirths and I observe that pain is often when the placenta is separated and sitting in the cervix. The uterus is signaling, get it out. It is a sign for the woman to make efforts to expel it. This may be squat over a bucket, sit on the toilet or simply bear down. The pain goes when the placenta is expelled. Afterbirth pains then take over and this has already been discussed. Cheers, MM -- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nz My Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_Photographers New Photo site@ Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.com Lindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.com Life is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?
Hello. It seems that women admitted to labour wards in the latent phase of labour are more likely to have interventions, and up to 80% of women presenting can have admission delayed (Lauzon Hodnett 2001). I have sought information on how to determine the transitionfrom latent to active phase and it seems that themain physiological marker used in diagnosis is the dilatation of the cervix. I am wondering if there would be any benefit to teaching women self examination as a method of delaying admission. I would appreciate any feedback, comments, opinions,experiences. Thank you, Julie
RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?
Hi Megan, I too am not a midwife but an active consumer and I have met many others similarly to you who are very aware and curious of their own body, who delight in the wonderful discoveries that pregnancy can bring. Yes, Maxine, you and I have had a terrific chat about all this in the recent past grin Warm hugs J Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Megan Larry Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2006 11:57 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination? Not a Midwife, but a very active birth consumer. From memory late in pregnancy, post dates and lots of niggles etc, I had a bit of a look see (feel) to see if there was anything happening and could locate the cervix, but I was also mindful of it being invasive and was really out of my own curiosity. I think that was also why I checked it in labour as well, my last oppurtunity to see if I could feel a dilating cervix. I am probably not your average birthing woman I suppose. Anyway I am pleased to have experinced it and that it was my decision for my reasons, no one elses. Cheers Megan From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Maxine Wilson Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2006 10:07 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination? Megan are you a midwife? Did you have some knowledge already or was that the first time you had felt a cervix in labour? Maxine From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Megan Larry Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2006 10:18 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination? I checked my own dialation with my fourth baby (waterbirth at home), it was short labour anyway, but I just wanted to know where bubs was at. I was sitting on my toilet, just leaned back and as clear as day was a ring/circle of about 5 cm. I was impressed with how obvious it was, amazing. About an hour later I was greeting my baby. With my third baby (waterbirth at home)I also checked for progress and was surprised to find a head about 3cm in, very inspiring to know that a hard, fast labour was in fact a quick one too, only 3 hours in total. I guess its up to the individual, nothing wrong with offering the idea to women and then those who are interested can seek more info on what to expect. Some women don't even want to know they havea vagina, others embrace it. cheers Megan.
RE: [ozmidwifery] quote of the week
I have found this thought provoking And I am left wondering about the English language; we have a word for a male dominated society patriarchal, and a word for a female dominated society but I am at a loss to come up with the right word for a society in which the male and female genders are represented equally. Perhaps the feminist society. Thats the world Id like to live in Warm hug Julie From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2006 9:22 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] quote of the week So true, Mary. Women are the harshest judges of eachother. Some of the pregnancy/birth/parenting forums I read show this to be true in almost every topic. :( Jo On 02/04/2006, at 3:58 PM, Mary Murphy wrote: If I could wave my wand, our culture would be matriarchal...one of peace, of softness...where children are beloved, where women are revered and taken care of, where birth and mothering are honored and supported. Raven Lang Midwifery Today Issue 70 Wish this was true. It seems to me that women judge each other harshly. MM
[ozmidwifery] Project - Tellsomeone
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RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP
Hi Megan, Overnight when she needs to rest her legs try encouraging the woman into the bath in the kneeling position with a car wash sponge under each knee if required and leaning forward toward the end of the bath with a pillow support to rest on at the edge of the bath. This leaning forward position may help. Another good rest position for turning a posterior baby is sitting on the toilet the wrong way around/facing the sistern actually quite a clever way to tilt the pelvis and yet still enable a rest and good relaxation in an upright leaning forward position. Pop a pillow over the top of the sistern for her to relax on and then she won't keep flushing the toilet (grin). A fav of mine is to encourage women to sit like a truck driver with feet and knees wide apart and tip the pelvis forward, to effectively lean forward and rotate baby to anterior. Warm wishes and happy turning Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of meg Sent: Friday, 27 January 2006 6:15 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP Could anyone describe the rebozo technique to me, as I am currentlly caring for a lovely primip with an OP, term plus, who has been niggling for a few days. We have been trying OFP, stair walking, chunning etc with no success. Thanks, Megan - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:29 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP Just to add to this, after talking about this the other night, I've been thinking a bit about it too. Obviously an awareness of positioning of the baby is beneficial, but I'm with you Jo, too much emphasis on this, and not enough practical applications, or answers to the questions, and it becomes an unhealthy obsession... Having said that, I'd be keen to try the Rebozo technique next time a persistent OP labour comes my way, (or should I say, a baby in a persistent OP position), but how? I understand the how of how to use the rebozo, but what about how long? And do I then need to keep checking by palp the position of the baby, to determine whether it's been effective? All sounds like a lot of disruption to the normal birthing process, and I'm not sure under what circumstances I'd be happy to instigate all this intervention... Any ideas from those more experienced? Tania x -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2006 5:28 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP Thanks Nancy, Having had 2 stubborn OP babies myself I lived and breathed the Optimal Fetal Positioning for the second child. Interestingly I didn't get so hung up on it the third time and that was the only babe who was OA. Must say that there is a danger sometimes in being too obsessed with doing the 'right' thing. What I am interested in though, is rationale for stubborn OP babies and the premature pushing urge. How does a woman who has laboured in a bath upright during all her labour overcome this problem? I have had an experience where one woman whose baby was LOA during the last weeks of pregnancy, turned OP during an active upright drug free labour and then after 22 hours turned only to have the fetal heart rate plummet resulting in CS. During the last 4 hours the urge to push was overwhelming and she was 6cm...lots of swelling and molding of baby head. Would this be why it took so long to turn? How do you avoid this? Is this common or is it indicative to a type of pelvis?? Need to dig deeper than just optimizing positions. I know babies can and do birth fully OP but the links with premature pushing urge is of interest to me. Thanks Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy San Martin Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:56 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP Hi Jo, Have you read any of Jean Sutton's work? She wrote a book called Optimal Fetal Positioning in which she describes all about OP causes and prevention. She also designed a Pregnancy Rocker to aid in the prevention of OP from 34 weeks onward. Any more info about the Pregnancy rocker ...email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Nancy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Monday, 16 January 2006 3:39 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery
RE: [ozmidwifery] Tearing after using Epi-No? Unlikely when used accroding to instructions.
Dear Kelly, I can help you with some more information for the woman you are currently supporting who has had a slight incident with the epi-no childbirth trainer. As an educator I have had many conversations with pregnant women making good use of the epi-no during the last few weeks of their pregnancy and also during the following months as well, when using it as a pelvic floor muscle trainer/strengthener. The occasional woman has described to me a similar story though it is not that common for a woman to use the epi-no in such a way as to cause bleeding, but it seems to me she could be a bit overzealous in her use of it and inserting it too far (fully instead of 50%) and then being quite challenged by it when pushing it out thats one possibility it would be worth your while asking her a few questions about her use of it and then suggesting that the next time she does it to read the instructions again first and then take it slowly, carefully and gently particularly for the first weeks use. It just takes a little bit of practice to become more familiar with its use thats all. However the other thought that crossed my mind is the possibility of an infection possibly thrush which might weaken the area making it more prone to injury easily worthwhile suggesting she have it checked best to heal prior to recommencing. Kelly, this is a really worthwhile product and I have had consistently positive feedback both from birthing women as well as midwives, indeed I have had a number of midwives come through my classes who have used the epi-no themselves in preparation for birth with remarks like well it makes sense doesnt it just like perineal massage its wise to prepare for birth. Personally I have noticed women become a lot more confident after they have used the epi-no sufficiently to achieve a good stretch vaginally then they will often make comments like I feel more confident now cause I know I can do it and Once I realised I had made it to 7cms or 8 cms etc I was not scared anymore, instead looking forward to the birth. Further comments I have received from women after using the epi-no and after giving birth I could feel where the babys head was and because of the epi-no I knew what I was doing, I know I wouldnt have had that insight otherwise without the practice beforehand I knew when to push and I felt ok with the stretching and could just relax it felt great Based on all the comments I have heard about the epi-no and the births I have been at where women had used it prior. If I was pregnant again I would definitely be using it as part of my preparation thats for sure! With regard to pelvic floor muscle strengthening afterwards for those who attended the ICM at Brisbane there was research presented in the great hall from Denmark with regard to using a pelvic floor muscle training device that fitted the description of the epi-no although they didnt actually say the name of the device used and the research concluded that this was by far the best way for women after 1 year post birth to have the strongest pelvic floor muscles. The Epi-no is also endorsed by the Continence Foundation. Current research certainly endorses the use of the epi-no when used correctly. Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of brendamanning Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2006 11:44 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Tearing after using Epi-No? Kelly, Well, the bad news is that labour will be much more intense that what she's experienced with the epi-no! The good news isthat the vagina is very vascular in ahealthy womanheals quickly. A lot of blood can result from a quite minorlaceration it'll almost certainly be healed by her birth time. It probably won't affect her ability to birth without tearing. I'm with Justine..those gadgets are money-making toys dangerous to boot! With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Tearing after using Epi-No? Wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a woman I am supporting due in two weeks who emailed me with this: I had a slight incident this morning... Was using an epi-no birth trainer (for the second time) in an effort to reduce the risk of tearing or needing an episiotomy, and although it didn't
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: [hbo] Check out Hudson Valley Lactivism
Hi I also brought my baby to work as a childbirth and parenting educator.. it was wonderful for everyone in the group too. Ryan was only about 6 weeks old when I commenced teaching again after having him, so I would put him in his little frazer chair and he would sit and look at everyone and the couples would sit and watch him too, it was such a lovely experience for them all I was able to teach them lots about breastfeeding and how to read babies signals I am sure they learnt a lot about babies in the most effective way. It was so funny to see their faces when he would do noisy poos we had such a lot of laughs and then of course when wed laugh hed startle so we had to quieten down it was all wonderful for their learning experience. When he needed a nappy change I would call Geoff and he would come and collect him and change him and then deliver him back again for another feed great for the Dads to see Geoffs involvement role modeled for them - I should not have stopped having babies J Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Sue Cookson Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 1:47 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [hbo] Check out Hudson Valley Lactivism Hi , I took each of my 4 children to births with me over many years. they obviously didn't need to come once they were weaned but if i thought i might be away for a fair while then the toddlers came too. i had some problems with one of mine, my only boy, who seemed to not be able to hang in so well, so he stopped coming along at about 8 months which did add to my partner's workload (had to bring him to me a number of times at long labours). i have very distinct memories of my babies sitting watching, or sleeping, or once i had to leave my 12 month old at the door as the house was a 'no food inside' place and she was chewing on a biscuit. i used to work alone, so for some of the longer drives etc i would take my sister or an older child as my support person. none of the families ever complained or asked me not to bring my children ... tessa went to many births in this capacity em!! sue hi everyone anyone know of any similar groups in australia? i liked their idea of handing out information at public places re breastfeeding laws and rights to increase awareness and acceptance. going in to workplaces to educate workers about rights for breastfeeding/expressing breaks and providing legal support for discrimination sounds great too.. how many australian employers would hire someone known to be breastfeeding who needed breaks every few hours? probably few and i think people would be too scared to ask . ideally i think we need to move towards more baby friendly workplaces where bubs go along with mum to work, like in most places in the world. but it sounds too extreme to even bring up in our current cultural climate of children and work life being so separate do many of you have experience of working witha baby in tow? do the hb mw's take their babies to births at all? love emily
RE: [ozmidwifery] two vessel cords
Hi all, I had a woman come through my classes last year and the ultrasound report said 2 vessels in the cord and she was told it could mean an abnormality in the baby and it caused her to be so frightened she nearly drove herself and everyone around her insane with worry. Anyway the baby was born and everything was absolutely fine and it turned out to simply be a mistake. I felt very sorry for her for all she had gone through it was dreadful. Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robyn Dempsey Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2005 10:08 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] two vessel cords There has also been some loose affiliation between cystic fibrosis and cords with 2 vessels. Cheers Robyn D
RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
Hi Marijke, Yes I have heard this same information I had a lovely chiropractor come through my classes here at home and after each session she would stay back and we would talk for quite some time about chiropracty and babies babies backs should be well supported when held and carried babies should not be held up by their ankles for nappy changing as this applies too much pressure to the upper spine and neck best to avoid holding babies with hands under armpits and thumbs across chest and fingers either side of the spine a common way to hold babies to life them in and out of things like bath etc. Best to support well with an open generous hand across the shoulders and neck with the other hand across supporting the hips and bottom to lift. Its wonderful to run groups and meet these amazing people and learn lots from them since she came through I have adapted her ideas into my sessions and interestingly the couples often make comments like yes that makes logical sense they ask why does everyone do it the other way and I reply because thats how its been done for a long time and people learn by copying and will keep doing it without question just because everyone else does it that way but really we should question everything Warm hug to all Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Marijke Eastaugh Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2005 6:24 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling This is really interesting, I recently birthed with a woman and she had a friend who was an osteopath and said that it was not good to lift babies up by their legs to put a nappy on. The idea being that it was pressure somewhere on the neck region so to change a nappy rolling side to side was recommended. I'd never heard of this before, or the swaddling causing hip dysplasia. Itcould be possiblethat if you swaddle with disposable nappies especially and you do it really firm it could cause problems if there was already disposition in this direction. Anyone else have ideas on this. - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:38 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.24/101 - Release Date: 13/09/2005
[ozmidwifery] Birthing options around Gosford - help please
Hi I have just received a phone call from a very excited friend who is 8 weeks pregnant, who lives at Gosford, and has asked my advice about her birthing options in that area I am hoping my ozmid friends will be able to fill me in on details as I am unsure Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
[ozmidwifery] inspiring quotes for pregnant women
Hi fellow ozmidders, Do you know of any inspirational quotes or uplifting sayings or motivational pieces that would be helpful to a pregnant woman? Warm hug to all Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] 4th degree tear research...
Hi Tania When I have asked the physios at the hospital I work at about 4th degree tears the response has been that episiotomy is usually implicated in causing it to happen, particularly with the woman on her back. You might find the following helpful: Visit www.sheilakitzinger.com For articles on episiotomy And http://www.infochoice.org/ic/ic.nsf/icx/6?OpenDocument helpful the professionals version is fully referenced . and Check out the following link for the relevant chapter from A Guide to Effective Care in Pregnancy and Childbirth http://www.maternitywise.org/pdfs/gecpc3ch11.pdf the entire book can be accessed via http://www.maternitywise.org/guide/ and BMJ 2000;321:137-141 (15July) http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/321/7254/137 Papers Rates for obstetric intervention among private and public patients in Australia: population based descriptive study Warm hug Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania Smallwood Sent: Friday, 27 May 2005 6:09 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] 4th degree tear research... Hi wise women, Can anyone point me in the direction of information or research about 4th degree perineal tears and subsequent births? Have just had an email enquiry and whilst I know lots of anecdotal stuff, Id like to present an evidence based package of information to this woman. Thanks in advance Tania
RE: [ozmidwifery] Childbirth Education classes
Hi Diane I would recommend you encourage the woman to write a detailed letter of feedback to the hospital general manager cc to the health education department. You might like to offer to provide her with assistance to write the letter. Without feedback there will be no improvements. It has to come from the consumers. Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane Gardner Sent: Friday, 27 May 2005 2:27 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Childbirth Education classes Wow am I steamed! I've just had a woman ring me in an absolute mess. She attended the Prenatal classes run by St Vincents Private just recently and and is scared out of her wits. She said she had been so excited and looking forward to birthing her baby until she attended the classes. She said they fed in negative, pain, complicationsand drugs! What is going on here? We wonder why women go into labour in a hospital screaming and begging for drugs. Just what sort of programming are these classes installing into women andtaking away their ability to trust their bodies for birth. How long do we have to put up with this and how much worse is it going to get before the hospital BoardsGET it or is the money rewards for doing all this more important than birth. Sorry to vent here SO loudly but I'm getting so fed up with this same old story. Where does one have to start to have these classesbroughtback tothe real world and some sensible and simple tools for birth! Sheesh Breathing and counting to 10...20.30 grrr ahhh!!! Diane
[ozmidwifery] The Weeping Camel Documentary
Hi to my fellow natural birth advocates and enthusiasts, I recommend viewing the documentary titled The Weeping Camel filmed in Mongolia and available for hire from Video Ezy. It is a fascinating true tale about a ritual that is performed if a camel mother rejects her newborn colt. It is simple, wonderful and I feel confident you would all just love it! Warm hug to all Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
[ozmidwifery] The Mummy Test
THE MUMMY TEST I was out walking with my 4 year old daughter. She picked up something off the ground and started to put it in her mouth. I took the item away from her and I asked her not to do that. Why? my daughter asked. Because it's been laying outside, you don't know where it's been, it's dirty and probably has germs I replied. At this point, my daughter looked at me with total admiration and asked, Wow! How do you know all this stuff? Uh, I was thinking quickly, All mums know this stuff. It's on the Mummy Test. You have to know it, or they don't let you be a Mummy. We walked along in silence for 2 or 3 minutes, but she was evidently pondering this new information. OH...I get it! she beamed, So if you don't pass the test you have to be the Daddy. Exactly I replied back with a big smile on my face and joy in my heart. When you're finished laughing, send this to a Mum. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Foetal positioning
Wonderful work Andrea with all the generations in the family it is wonderful to read these stories of overcoming fear and nonsense and instead, women experiencing empowering births. She will ready to embark on motherhood now and turn her attention to nurturing her baby. Well done wonderful midwife, Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:28 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Foetal positioning Had an interesting situation the other day. Came on the PM shift to be with a woman who had been induced with prostin the evening before spontaneous ROM two hours later then nothing and so synt in the AM. Noted on admission by midwives that baby OP and mother resisted co operating in any suggestions to turn it because her GP had told her that the baby was all ready to go. When I came on she was lying down complaining and resisting to move because her back was hurting to much! I sat and watched for a couple of contractions and then said in a confidant manner oh thats easy to fix I'll run the bath. Which I did and in she got with her sister dragging along behind reminding me that she would not be able to get out again. I reassured her that I had never had a woman who had remained in the bath for ever so it would be OK. Once in she proceeded to relax and after a very short time began swaying with the contractions, still on her back but almost flat with her head in the water and feet apart but flat on the bottom. Then she began thrusting her pelvis skyward with each contraction and it reminded me of the mexican shawl thing that we were shown at the Andrea Robertson study day recently. What was it called Andrea Anyway shortly afterwards she opened her eyes and said I'll need to push soon. Which she did and went on to have her baby with a very moulded head. Despite her resistance to all suggestions to rotatet her baby she instinctively did it her self once in the water which was deep enough to enable her to float freely. When we were talking about it afterwards she told me that her GP had told her that there was an 80% chance she would have to have a LUSCS because her mother had had all difficult forcep births and her sister had had two LUSCS. So she had convinced herself that she just had to endure whatever until he decided to do the LUSCS?? How sad is that and talk about sabotage. There were four generations of women in that room as the baby arrived and the three elder ones were dumb struck at the beauty of it and the was she had been encouraged to labour. We had a discussion above the little listening ears of the 4 5 year old nieces who came in minutes after the baby arrived but had sat around all day waiting because their Mum was supporting their aunty about how they could empower those girls by the language they use to talk about birth now that they had seen how it could be done. At least those girls might have a chance. All in all a satisfying result. but my message was really how she had used the thrusting motions in the bath to turn the OP Andrea Quanchi On 13/04/2005, at 8:29 PM, Sally Westbury wrote: Foetal malposition lengthens labour and poses maternal risks Source:Obstetrics Gynaecology 2005; 105: 763-72 Assessing the impact of foetal position at full dilatation on labour duration and indicators of maternal morbidity. Pregnant women with occiput posterior or transverse position at full dilatation are at increased risk of a prolonged second stage of labour and of maternal morbidity, research shows. Since Mauriceau's classical work was published in 1681, the occiput posterior and transverse malpositions have remained an obstetric challenge, write Julie Senecal (Laval University, Canada) and colleagues. For the current study, the team assessed the effect of such foetal positions on the duration of the second stage of labour and on indicators of maternal morbidity, using retrospective data for 210 women whose foetus was in the posterior position, 200 with it in a transverse position, and 1198 with an anteriorly positioned foetus. This revealed that foetal malposition at full dilatation was associated with significant maternal morbidity, including increased risks of instrumental delivery, caesarean delivery, oxytocin administration, episiotomy, and blood loss exceeding 500 ml. In addition, the duration of the second stage of labour with early or delayed pushing was higher for transverse (3.6 hours
[ozmidwifery] Headline - Render unto Caesar: it's a growing trend
Render unto Caesar: it's a growing trend By Andrew Darby and Malcolm Brown April 12, 2005 URL: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/04/11/1113071914530.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Woman breastfeeds tigers April 4, 2005 - 12:05PM Page Tools Email to a friend Printer format A Burmese woman is breastfeeding two tiger cubs at a zoo in Rangoon after they were removed from their aggressive mother. Hla Htay, 40, who has three children, the youngest seven months old, offered her services after the Bengal tiger cubs' mother, Noah Noah, killed the third member of her litter. The two others, a male and a female, were taken from her and now receive bottle feeds as well as Hla Htay's milk four times a day. I felt sorry for them so I decided to feed them before their teeth grow, she told the Myanmar Times, an English-language paper in the capital. The cubs were born at the Rangoon zoo a fortnight ago, the first there for 16 years. The Bengal tiger, Panthera tigris, is listed as endangered on the World Conservation Union's red list, with the global population estimated at fewer than 2,500. A tenth of them live in Burma, where they are under threat from poachers seeking to feed markets for traditional medicines and trophies. Big cat skins are easily obtained at markets on the Thai-Burmese border, with snow leopards the most commonly available. Dealers say that tiger parts are becoming more expensive and hard to obtain because of their dwindling supply. Noah Noah and her mate were one of two pairs of tigers sent to the zoo from Thailand four years ago as part of an animal exchange. The Telegraph, London image001.gifimage002.gif
[ozmidwifery] bbbb calendars report
HI all The figures and facts have come to air at last for 2005 calendar and it is looking like we will not be making a profit and even encroaching on half the profit for last years calendar to cover. The first calendar made a good profit, then the second one made a few thousand and we will have to use some of that to cover for the third one. There has been close to 8000 calendars sold or given away over the three years so that means that there are nearly 8000 walls with this information out there being viewed by many more - so we have reached over 10thousand people which one cannot put a price on. It has been far reaching - a friend was telling me theother day that a client of her husbands was down from Cooktown and he saw the calendar on their wall and he said that he had one the same on his wall at home, this then helped them to connect evenfurther- you just never know how far it goes! AS the calendar was primarily a fund raiser and then secondly an awareness and information raiser, the time and effort put into it does not warrant the profit made, but the awareness has been great. It has helped to bring many groups and individuals together and help us unite across the country and even taken our plight to NZ, USA, UK and Canada. Brought us media, politicalattention and our plight to many high profile birth reformers across the globe. The campaign for birth reform and theNMAP promotion has shown how many smaller groups there are and they were able to see that they are not aloneandunite, as well asmake a little profit from the calendars too. It has given us a national front of well organised groups who can unite and produce results. WE are here to stay and primarily help others to make aninformed choice - and to give woman a voice on birthing. I have been fortunate enough to be at the grass roots and meet the woman and their families for whom the birth reform is all about - what a privilege, then to meet those who are active and campaigning, onto those making the decisions and those who are and are not willing to hear our voices. Then onto to the high profilers who are inspiring all of us to continue. What a journey! what an honour! My family has grown since doing the first calendar and I am finding it impossible to maintain my integrity of family first and produce a quality calendar, I choose to stay home and raise my children and find that I am having to sacrifice more than I am willing too, so this brings me to my final calendar that I can produce the '' calendar at this stage of my families growth. I love taking the photos and know that I am doing something that will help my children in the future and will continue to work within the campaign at a lesser time demanding role. I have many more wonderful photos on file of beautiful woman and children that will still get used within the campaign so you will not be seeing the last of the 'grass roots' photos. Also those of you that haven't seen your photo in print do not despair yet as the campaign is not over yet, just taking another form. There is always another plan in the air, just a less time consuming one, whilst still getting the info out there - I will do that till the day we run of pregnant womanandbirths to photograph, mums to stop breastfeeding, families to stop loving! Never! So if you have a need for some photographs you know who to call! IF anyone wants to continue the calendar on, please feel free and I am willing to give my support and blessings, I even have a years supply of photographs ready to go! This was not an easy decision for me to make and let the calendar go and as the saying goes if you really love something then let it go, so be free and am sure it will not be the end, as there are whisperings in the air of a homebirth DVD! I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the people involved;from the models, to those who put their work and ideasinto it, those who brought and sold the calendars, those who have been there from the beginning and helped to developed the idea with me, those who advertised and supported the campaign for no-charge and finally those whose wall the calendar hangs! See you around the birthing circles! take the time to see the beauty in the moment! Deirdrie Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 552 Gilston Road, Gilston. Gold Coast. QLD 4211 Gold Coast Ph: 0755 332258 fax: 0755 332298
RE: [ozmidwifery] another wonderful birth
Hi Katrina,
Yes, the epi-no was used well prior to the
birth during the last few weeks of pregnancy.
And yes the product can be inserted and
used in virtually any position that suits the woman similarly to a
tampon.
The woman I supported birthed the head
kneeling and then the shoulders and body standing.
Warm hug
Julie
Julie Clarke CBE
Independent
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HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner
ACE
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NACE
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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Katrina Flora
Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:36
PM
To: ozmid
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] another
wonderful birth
Hi Julie, what a lovely story, just a question re the
Epi-No. Is it possible for a woman to use it in any position except on her
back? Or do you mean she used it to prepare physically for labour?
Cheers,
Katrina
- Original Message -
From: Michelle
Windsor
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, April
07, 2005 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
another wonderful birth
Julie your birth story reminds me of one that Vicki Chan told last year
at a conference, I can't remember all the details but it was something like
this. a woman ('Alice') rings up and says her membranes have ruptured
and she's got mec liqnot the average description.yes,Alice
isa doctorlaboured with Vicki caring for her, got to fully dilated
and the obstetrician is making noises about doing a ventouse. Vicki
gotAlice
moving her pelvis and she birthed her baby under her own steam.
AfterwardsAlice kept saying over and over
I just feel SO good And the best part.Alice is also an
obstetrician!
Cheers
Michelle
Julie Clarke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi again
I have a bit of a sore back today but a warm heart and a
smile in my eyes as I think about the birth I was at yesterday.
The couple had been through my classes and afterwards asked
me if I would support them and I said yes.
My motivation was because she is a doctor and I wanted her
to have a wonderful birth experience and I thought if I can help this woman who
might potentially become another helper of women then that would be
terrific. Do I hear you say Wow potential risk for big disappointment
with such high hopes there!
Yes you are quite right but I am a bit like that I
dream and have high hopes and then pour all my energy into achieving it
and you know what?
Luckily so does she! She had undertaken lots of reading, a
HypnoBirthing course with a local practitioner, my active birth course and used
the epi-no product for her preparation.
I watched this woman have a huge amount of excitement in
early labour then feel a bit miserable when it was obviously not going
to be easily controlled or quick and easy then she
surrendered and went completely within herself and over the course of several
hours finally became fully dilated she met a number of personal
challenges along the way and worked her way through them all.
Fear, excitement, anxiety. courage, determination, pride,
and energy all mixed together. It is one of the most glorious depictions of
humanity being with a woman as she travels the path of the birthing experience.
She had a very small lip of cervix for quite a while
and she worked with her body beautifully to move through it one
fascinating aspect of this was when she was in the bath and she really needed
to just be totally primal and let go she dropped her face and
head under the water which bothered her so I supported her head with both hands
right across the back of her head wiped all the water and hair from her face
and just held her head for her so she was completely free to move in whatever
way she wanted.
Then something within me suggested a firm hand support
across the top of her head and she worked her head in a circular motion right
deep into the palm of my hand and I felt as if her body was communicating what
her baby was trying to do it was a fascinating moment for me and we
didnt say a word about it didnt feel the need to
just simply working together well.
Her partner seemed to find it difficult to support her to
begin with and I guess too this was one example of a man who didnt seem
to recall much information from classes but he cared for her
deeply and simply watched everything and learned much better from me role
modeling for him at the time I handed everything to him at every
available opportunity.
I have the impression that the woman may well describe a
sense of balance of male and female energy at her birth.
The midwife was brilliant she was absolutely
wonderful and so positive and gave great care to the couple
[ozmidwifery] another wonderful birth
Hi again I have a bit of a sore back today but a warm heart and a smile in my eyes as I think about the birth I was at yesterday. The couple had been through my classes and afterwards asked me if I would support them and I said yes. My motivation was because she is a doctor and I wanted her to have a wonderful birth experience and I thought if I can help this woman who might potentially become another helper of women then that would be terrific. Do I hear you say Wow potential risk for big disappointment with such high hopes there! Yes you are quite right but I am a bit like that I dream and have high hopes and then pour all my energy into achieving it and you know what? Luckily so does she! She had undertaken lots of reading, a HypnoBirthing course with a local practitioner, my active birth course and used the epi-no product for her preparation. I watched this woman have a huge amount of excitement in early labour then feel a bit miserable when it was obviously not going to be easily controlled or quick and easy then she surrendered and went completely within herself and over the course of several hours finally became fully dilated she met a number of personal challenges along the way and worked her way through them all. Fear, excitement, anxiety. courage, determination, pride, and energy all mixed together. It is one of the most glorious depictions of humanity being with a woman as she travels the path of the birthing experience. She had a very small lip of cervix for quite a while and she worked with her body beautifully to move through it one fascinating aspect of this was when she was in the bath and she really needed to just be totally primal and let go she dropped her face and head under the water which bothered her so I supported her head with both hands right across the back of her head wiped all the water and hair from her face and just held her head for her so she was completely free to move in whatever way she wanted. Then something within me suggested a firm hand support across the top of her head and she worked her head in a circular motion right deep into the palm of my hand and I felt as if her body was communicating what her baby was trying to do it was a fascinating moment for me and we didnt say a word about it didnt feel the need to just simply working together well. Her partner seemed to find it difficult to support her to begin with and I guess too this was one example of a man who didnt seem to recall much information from classes but he cared for her deeply and simply watched everything and learned much better from me role modeling for him at the time I handed everything to him at every available opportunity. I have the impression that the woman may well describe a sense of balance of male and female energy at her birth. The midwife was brilliant she was absolutely wonderful and so positive and gave great care to the couple and their baby. Such a beautiful and sensitive person I believe there is a lot of amazing midwives who are dedicated and skilled in the art of midwifery. The midwife commented to me also that she saw women who have included in their preparation extra strategies such as HypnoBirthing and the use of the Epi-no do really well. The baby was a little delayed in having a cry and the Dad sat staring and I suggested to him to touch his chest and speak to him which he did and within seconds his son responded to him thats the bit that brings tears to my eyes I feel a welling up in my chest and am so moved by such wonderful experiences. Well it was straight after the birth 6.45pm that I had to leave to come home and do a class at 7pm I made it home easily and legally within 35 minutes - just very lucky to catch every green light between Randwick and Sylvania. The group were already all organized (under Geoffs supervision/my husband of 25 years) and listening to a couple who had been through my classes previously and had come back to tell their story and show off their 2 week old baby their story was very real of meeting the challenge of natural birth working as a team and continuing that on at home as a new family all very inspirational. They told their story while I went and gave my hands a good wash and brought back with me a well earned cup of tea. Another warm hug to all, Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning
Hi Katrina Having just read your question this morning I have had a little chuckle as I remember the couple of moments, firstly when he was rubbing her back too enthusiastically during a contraction she had actually asked for a back rub and he was doing a great job just didnt think to stop when the next contraction came he wasnt watching her face so he didnt realize she let out a little growl and he was shocked Then the next time was with the face washer her face and cheeks were very hot so we had a lovely wet cool washer but I think he squashed her nose or blocked it with the washer and that caused a reaction too. It was very heartwarming though when I saw the look on his face as the lovely midwife helped him to catch his new little baby girl I had the camera and gave a couple of quick clicks so I hope I got that shot for him. He was exceptional afterwards as he supported mum and bub throughout the first breastfeed. He is a totally involved dad. Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceri Katrina Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2005 7:59 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning hi just a question.. Why did the dad get into trouble??? just curious thats all katrina :-) On 30/03/2005, at 6:21 AM, Julie Clarke wrote: Hi I have just come in the door from supporting at another wonderful birth, which was a successful vbac. The woman had made a well informed choice to aim for a vbac and not a repeat cesar, however she experienced the usual normal anxiety of anyone having a vaginal birth compounded with lack of confidence because she didnt get there last time. Well we worked through those issues slowly and gently, over an hour and a half she pushed her baby into the world a gorgeous baby girl with a lovely head of dark curly hair. The midwife was lovely, gentle, positive, calm, quiet and unobtrusive. The dad was great and got into trouble a couple of times I felt sorry for him he was crestfallen because he was trying to do his best. The woman was so pleased with herself at having achieved what she wanted to achieve a natural active birth with no drugs, no intervention and a fine healthy baby. She didnt have any colostrum after the cesar and was worried but after this normal birth we got the baby on and the baby looked very contented and relaxed as I left. And I have come home with another big smile on my face satisfied in the knowledge that when a woman puts her mind to it and no one stands in her way she can do anything cant she? A great experience to start the day. Warm hug to all Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
[ozmidwifery] A new breastfeeding journal is born--and it's going to be free!
Hi Please scroll down and read previous emails I thought you might appreciate being included seems good to me - hug J I encourage Maternity Coalition members to reply to Lisa Amir so that she can add your name as subscribers (free) to this new journal. Lisa is a Melbourne GP academic who is well known in ABA, Baby Friendly initiative, and a person to whom I refer women with medical breastfeeding problems. Joy Johnston _ Dear Editorial Board, I have been working on an email list that BioMed Central can use to inform people about the new journal. I have about 500 names and email addresses, but the publishers would like more if possible. They have suggested that members of the Editorial Board could send me a list of their colleagues who may be interested in hearing about the journal. The list will just be used to send three email messages over the next 6 months. I would really appreciate some more names in the next week! I need the surname and email address only. The first call for papers will be going out very soon. Many thanks, Lisa Amir Editor-in-Chief International Breastfeeding Journal [EMAIL PROTECTED] SOUTH EAST HEALTH CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email, and the files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not permitted to distribute or use this email or any of its attachments in any way. We also request that you advise the sender of the incorrect addressing. This email message has been virus-scanned. Although no computer viruses were detected, South East Health accepts no liability for any consequential damage resulting from email containing any computer viruses.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Indigenous birthing
Hi Emily Did you see the Birth Rites documentary recently? Cant remember if it was on ABC or SBS but it would be a very good source for you. Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Emily Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2005 7:52 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Indigenous birthing Hi everyone Im a student trying to organise an elective for later this year and was hoping some of you might have some ideas. It is an 8 week full time elective starting in late july. Ihave to do an assignment on health inequality issues faced by Indigenous women, so im looking for anyone who seesindigenous women, it doesnt have to specifically be an Indigenous health service. I have already been out to Alukura women's clinic in Alice Springs but this time want to focus on birthing issues more than antenatal care, which i did a lot of at Alukura. Ideally I'd love to find a home birth MW that sees alot of Indigenous women but a hospital birthing centre/maternity ward would be great too. Thanks so much :) emily Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball.
[ozmidwifery] A wonderfully successful vbac birth this morning
Hi I have just come in the door from supporting at another wonderful birth, which was a successful vbac. The woman had made a well informed choice to aim for a vbac and not a repeat cesar, however she experienced the usual normal anxiety of anyone having a vaginal birth compounded with lack of confidence because she didnt get there last time. Well we worked through those issues slowly and gently, over an hour and a half she pushed her baby into the world a gorgeous baby girl with a lovely head of dark curly hair. The midwife was lovely, gentle, positive, calm, quiet and unobtrusive. The dad was great and got into trouble a couple of times I felt sorry for him he was crestfallen because he was trying to do his best. The woman was so pleased with herself at having achieved what she wanted to achieve a natural active birth with no drugs, no intervention and a fine healthy baby. She didnt have any colostrum after the cesar and was worried but after this normal birth we got the baby on and the baby looked very contented and relaxed as I left. And I have come home with another big smile on my face satisfied in the knowledge that when a woman puts her mind to it and no one stands in her way she can do anything cant she? A great experience to start the day. Warm hug to all Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] Question about engagement
Hi Jo I always have a little hopeful thought when I hear of a midwife who is pregnant that she will give herself a wholesome opportunity to intuitively experience her pregnancy - her growing belly, changing body and boobs, enjoy the swirls and kicks of her growing baby and cherish the secrets of pregnancy like the feeling of communicating with her baby and knowing things that you can't put into words or explain to someone else. It is such a beautiful opportunity to gain insights and understanding that no Maggie Myles textbook can convey. I hope you get the chance to read some of the wonderful classics Sheila Kitzinger's books, Janet Balaskas Active Birth, Claudia Panuthos Transformation through Birth, Ina May Gaskin Spiritual Midwifery, None of them are nurses or midwives all of them are women who are mothers. There is something unique about each of their books detailing their work and understanding. I think there can be lots of reasons why babies engage or don't engage. On one level we can discuss the mechanics of it all can't we? Such as the baby's head being the heaviest part and so gravity will encourage it downwards, or when the baby starts to be a bigger size it will naturally try to fit more comfortably between mum's ribs and pelvis. Or it could be that the baby begins to come to some realization that it will have to commence working on it's exit and begins to strategise on the most suitable way out. Perhaps it's the increasing Braxton hicks (practicing) contractions of the uterus that are letting the baby know that soon it will be born and with that gentle warning the baby begins to prepare more seriously for it's role in the birth and recognizes that becoming engaged into the pelvis is a clever little thing to do. I think there is quite a bit of quiet unrecognized communication between the woman and the baby. Childbirth Without Fear by Read and Ideal Birth by Sondra Ray and Birth Without Violence by Frederick Leboyer are more fascinating books to seek out too. Jo, I wish for you a wonderful journey through your pregnancy, labour, birth and loving your little one. Embrace the experience. Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoFromOz Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 8:09 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Question about engagement ... no, not the romantic kind... We were discussing pregnancy on night duty last night (as you do when you are a Midwife, and pregnant!), and I was wondering if anyone knew why babies don't 'engage' earlier than they do? I mean, at 32 weeks, my baby's head is pretty small, so why wouldn't gravity allow the head to go deep into my pelvis, instead of having a butt and legs right up under my rib cage already? One suggestion was that it is because the foetus floats, but I don't see why... None of us really had any ideas - do any of you? Ta :) Jo (RM) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] sharing 'different' info
Hi Katrina What a great question to have been asked... I imagine it could stimulate the thinking of many of the students into wondering just what birth is like all around the world... there is often the arrogance in the West that westernized countries are so much more civilized and safer but this is not necessarily the case. Recently, I had a woman in class say Thank goodness we are all birthing in Australia amazingly I also had a Dutch woman in the group and I turned to her and asked her if she had any knowledge on what birth was like in Holland. Fortunately she did and she proceeded to tell the rest of the group that it would be expected they would birth at home unless there were medical reasons requiring hospitalization, government funded homebirth was normal and encouraged, and apart from being provided with a midwife they would also be provided with a helper to assist with light housework duties, visitors, other children etc. The group was amazed to discover that another country provided more for women in their phase of life compared to what they were going to be provided with here. I would recommend visiting a midwifery group practice in New Zealand, then perhaps Sinai hospital (where the Hollywood starts go), then any one of the hospitals shown on Foxtel's Maternity Ward, perhaps Chicago to view how the underprivileged are treated in the USA, if you have time head south to for some lovely waterbirths at the Andaluz Waterbirth Centre in Guatemala, then off to Europe for further contrasts at the University Hospital Vienna, Austria to visit Midwife: Karin Berghammer, OBGYN: Prof Regine Ahner. After that of course you couldn't miss out on a visit to (author and anthropologist) Sheila Kitzinger in England, refer to her book Rediscovering Birth to help you with this project question, and Janet Balaskas author of New Active Birth in London. Perhaps Elle MacPherson (waterbirth mum) would be happy to be interviewed by you too. You might even like to pop over to Scotland to visit a dear friend of mine who is a midwifery student - who will gladly fill you in on the details of the sausage factory style maternity services they have available for women. I wish you all the best with your work Katrina, Warm hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceri Katrina Sent: Friday, 18 March 2005 11:09 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sharing 'different' info Hi everyone Just a different question for you... I am doing an assignment for one of my subjects at uni, and we have to plan an 'International Study Tour'! Not the usual sort of question we get, but one that intrigues me!!! I have started to plan it, but was wondering if anyone had any ideas on places or people or conferences that would be interesting/ lifechanging etc etc that I can 'plan' to go and see?? Thanks in advance Katrina :-) On 17/03/2005, at 2:39 PM, Kerreen Reiger wrote: Hi all, In the spirit of the recent discussion re importance of sharing information concerning mid- and women- friendly models of care, I have just noticed information about a Canadian initiative funded by Canadian federal gov't and bringing professional and consumer stakeholders together. See Multidisciplinary Collaborative Primary Maternity Care Project on google, and/or http://sogc.medical.org/collaborative/index_e.shtml They had a conference in Vancouver a few weeks ago and I'll be asking to talk with some of the people involved when I am in Toronto in early June. I'll tell you what I find out then but in the meantime, it's a useful initiative for us all to know about and use in lobbying efforts. Cheers Kerreen -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Julie's latest birth support experience - such a contrast -
Hi ozmid circle of friends, I went to a birth on Wednesday, (the day after the Future Birth Seminar in Sydney and I was still on a high from that), which was just beautiful with a lovely baby girl being born into water gently. Aren't I lucky I am having a great week! The midwife we had was very sensitive and caring towards the woman I was supporting, but only after issues occurred with the prior midwife. The difference between the two was such a contrast. I was a little shaken by the manner, weirdness and strange old fashioned 1970's hospital style off hand attitude she had towards the woman. I have not seen a midwife behave like that for quite a long time. I was so surprised and I thought Oh surely I can talk to her and be sensitive towards her and she will improve but no way - not a chance she was one fearful midwife. No one in the world could have been offended by us and yet she immediately went into defensive mode the instant she walked/clumped in the room. We tried to gently talk to her and work on the issues with her but it was like talking to a brick wall. She had her rehearsed spiel. She didn't like lights off - didn't like the woman in the bath - wanted her raised right up out of the bath to use the Doppler and so on. She walked in her shoes as though they were bricks. She prepared the room in a noisier manner than my scout master dad would have set up a camp. She complained of bad back, knees, eyes etc so the woman and her partner were supposed to labour in a way convenient to her. This was midwife centered. She talked loudly while we spoke in hushed tones. Fortunately though the woman's assertiveness she agreed to swap with the other midwife on and so all went well after that. But I have walked away from that experience filled with pity for that midwife I have been thinking what a poor sad soul, filled with fear - I expect she is clearly damaged by her past experiences and carries scars that would take a lot of energy to heal. Had she had the courage and the flexibility to join us in the experience she would have had the pleasure of a very beautiful birth. The midwife who did replace her and come to us enjoyed her very first waterbirth and had a lovely big smile on her face afterwards. I gave her a lovely big warm hug and it was just great. Warm hug to all, Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Friday, 18 March 2005 2:36 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] sharing 'different' info What about a trip to NZ and see how things are going there and also check out the NZ group TABS -Trauma After Birth Support- a well needed reality check for how women are effected by birth experience. Perhaps a visit to Nancy Wiener-Cohen author of Silent Knife and a vbac supporter in the US ?? Jo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceri Katrina Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:39 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sharing 'different' info Hi everyone Just a different question for you... I am doing an assignment for one of my subjects at uni, and we have to plan an 'International Study Tour'! Not the usual sort of question we get, but one that intrigues me!!! I have started to plan it, but was wondering if anyone had any ideas on places or people or conferences that would be interesting/ lifechanging etc etc that I can 'plan' to go and see?? Thanks in advance Katrina :-) On 17/03/2005, at 2:39 PM, Kerreen Reiger wrote: Hi all, In the spirit of the recent discussion re importance of sharing information concerning mid- and women- friendly models of care, I have just noticed information about a Canadian initiative funded by Canadian federal gov't and bringing professional and consumer stakeholders together. See Multidisciplinary Collaborative Primary Maternity Care Project on google, and/or http://sogc.medical.org/collaborative/index_e.shtml They had a conference in Vancouver a few weeks ago and I'll be asking to talk with some of the people involved when I am in Toronto in early June. I'll tell you what I find out then but in the meantime, it's a useful initiative for us all to know about and use in lobbying efforts. Cheers Kerreen -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe
RE: [ozmidwifery] Preconception care?
General information http://www.marchofdimes.com/pnhec/pnhec.asp preconception care check core module http://search.marchofdimes.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=257page_id=13109760query=preconception+care+modulehiword=CARED+CAREER+CAREERS+CARES+CAREY+MODULES+PRECONCEPTIONAL+care+module+preconception+ Check subjects in left hand panel. Especially good pre-conception section http://www.4woman.org/Pregnancy/index.htm Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Julie Garratt Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 9:51 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Preconception care? Hello all you wonderful, wise people. I was wondering what your thoughts are on midwives providing preconception care. Is it in our scope of practice as we are told at university or does our role really only beginning in the antenatal period? If we are involved, what are we telling couples other than to take folic acid supplements and have sex in the middle of the menstrual cycle. I am beginning my final year of Midwifery at Flinders University and would like to explore and research this area further. Cheers, Julie Garratt (champion Ozmid lurker and learnerJ
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: SA maternity hospitals info
Title: Message Hi Sylvia Thanks for the website it gave me a giggle For all the up to date information about joining NACE Inc the National Association of Childbirth Educators contact the membership secretary Jenny Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0427 763 058 mobile phone number. Or visit www.nace.org.au to download the current membership application form. If you do it very soon you wont miss out on the next journal coming out soon. Warm regards, Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Sylvia Boutsalis Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2005 10:32 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: SA maternity hospitals info Funny you should ask about the Roma Wheel, as hardly anyone uses them, anywhere! They were a bit of a fad for a while, but the size of it made it a bit cumbersome in the labour rooms!! Check www.romabirth.com for info. Regards and happy looking, Sylvia PS. I have info on joining NACE. However it is a bit outdated (from last year). Is it still valid? -Original Message- From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Julie Clarke Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2005 7:39 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: SA maternity hospitals info Hi Sylvia, I have read your message with interest and I am wondering what a Roma Wheel is could you describe it for me please? Warm regards, Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Sylvia Boutsalis Sent: Saturday, 5 February 2005 7:18 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: SA maternity hospitals info Hi all, Is there a website that I can access info regarding maternity services in Adelaide. I'm compiling a file of hospitals and what they offer. I want it to be something like this (which I did in Switzerland where I studied Childbirth Education): Kantonspital Basel, Frauenklinik Schanzenstrasse 46, 4056 Basel Tel: (061) 325 9595 This is an open hospital and accepts all types of medical insurance. 4 birthing rooms. 4 to 5 midwives on duty day and night. Cannot have a private midwife of own choice. Can have private Gynaecologist from the hospital with 1st and 2nd class insurance. Gynaecologist on duty 24 hours. Complete flexibility on position for delivery. Paediatrician on duty during the day and on call at night. Rooming in accepted. If sharing a room, by agreement with room mate. Breastfeeding help is given by the hospital staff. If the baby needs special care this is managed in the hospital whenever possible. Available for use during birth: Birth stool, mat, ball, rope, bath, Roma Wheel, various medication for pain, homeopathic medication, massage, reflexology, epidural anaesthesia. Information evening: 1st Tuesday of every month at 19:00 in the Horsaal. Any offers would be greatly appreciated. I actually visited all 7 hospitals (in Switzerland) and got detailed info from them about epidurals, C-Sections, birth rates etc. Thanks in advance Sylvia Boutsalis Adelaide Childbirth Educator Infant Massage Instructor
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: SA maternity hospitals info
Title: RE: SA maternity hospitals info Hi Sylvia, I have read your message with interest and I am wondering what a Roma Wheel is could you describe it for me please? Warm regards, Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Sylvia Boutsalis Sent: Saturday, 5 February 2005 7:18 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: SA maternity hospitals info Hi all, Is there a website that I can access info regarding maternity services in Adelaide. I'm compiling a file of hospitals and what they offer. I want it to be something like this (which I did in Switzerland where I studied Childbirth Education): Kantonspital Basel, Frauenklinik Schanzenstrasse 46, 4056 Basel Tel: (061) 325 9595 This is an open hospital and accepts all types of medical insurance. 4 birthing rooms. 4 to 5 midwives on duty day and night. Cannot have a private midwife of own choice. Can have private Gynaecologist from the hospital with 1st and 2nd class insurance. Gynaecologist on duty 24 hours. Complete flexibility on position for delivery. Paediatrician on duty during the day and on call at night. Rooming in accepted. If sharing a room, by agreement with room mate. Breastfeeding help is given by the hospital staff. If the baby needs special care this is managed in the hospital whenever possible. Available for use during birth: Birth stool, mat, ball, rope, bath, Roma Wheel, various medication for pain, homeopathic medication, massage, reflexology, epidural anaesthesia. Information evening: 1st Tuesday of every month at 19:00 in the Horsaal. Any offers would be greatly appreciated. I actually visited all 7 hospitals (in Switzerland) and got detailed info from them about epidurals, C-Sections, birth rates etc. Thanks in advance Sylvia Boutsalis Adelaide Childbirth Educator Infant Massage Instructor
[ozmidwifery] Birthing Beds and recomendations/suggestions
Hi Sue, I love hearing of units refurnishing their birthing rooms it provides an opportunity for creating - not necessarily expensively - a wonderful atmosphere for labour, birth and bonding. It seems more and more units are moving away from the by-gone era of wallpaper, stiff bedspreads with matching pastel floral curtains. A normal low family friendly queen sized bed is useful for mum, dad and baby bonding afterwards during the first hours after the birth. Though, sadly, I visited a unit recently with straight stark thin blinds, a delivery suite style bed in double size and a computer station prominently in the corner for the midwife to perch and type. It was very modern, clinical, efficient etc. I was reminded of a kitchen type of environment as I entered. When I commented I was told it had to comply with what was available through the normal hospital furniture supplier. Although it is marketed as a birth centre, I felt it lacked the charm of a homelike atmosphere. When furnishing a birthing room for the purpose of normal, natural, active birthing I would certainly recommend taking a look at a wonderful video from Austria titled Giving Birth and Being Born it is brilliant and shows several births with women and their partners in environments that are very supportive, comfortable, suitable, relaxing, safe yet still in the hospital. It features a type of ladder made of wood similar to in a high school gym and shows women using it quite easily during active labour. The beds are mattresses on the floor covered with pillows and cushions. There are also birthing stools, balls etc. It has been designed by midwives and mothers - experienced women who can identify useful tools for birthing. It just so doesn't look like a motel room - I was so surprised and impressed when I first viewed the video - and have mentioned it to a few people - I am sure it will be part of creative change in the future. It is only $125.00 and well worth purchasing for showing to managers, midwives and can certainly be used for enhancing learning to a pre-natal class. Andrea has the video available www.birthinternational.com http://www.birthinternational.com/product/video/vt107.html Good luck Sue in working towards providing a great birthing and bonding environment for the families attending your unit. warm hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scrosby Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2005 9:03 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Birthing Beds and recomendations/suggestions -- Forwarded Message --- From: scrosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:50:39 +1000 Subject: Birthing Beds and recomendations/suggestions Hi everyone, I work in a smallish midwifery unit in rural Victoria and we are looking at purchasing some new beds for our newly developed birth rooms. Has anyone suggestions,, we don't have a huge budget but I would love to hear from other midwives as to what they are using and their comments etc. One of our new rooms will be an active birth room that won't have a bed in it, only a sofa bed for post birth recovery. One of our other rooms we will use our current double bed however we would dearly like a couple of new beds. I would love feedback about this. Thanks in anticipation, Sue Crosby -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) --- End of Forwarded Message --- -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] from Carol Devine (DES support group) 02 98754820
Our organisation would like to request your consideration of the matters raised in the media release below and we are seeking your support by contacting both RANZCOG and TGA to express concern. The contact details for this are: RANZCOG 254-260 Albert St East Melbourne Victoria 3002 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dr Kerri Mackay A/g Director Adverse Drug Reactions Unit Therapeutic Goods Administration PO Box 100 Woden ACT 2606 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, your consideration of including this media release in your organisations newsletter would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in anticipation Yours sincerely Carol Devine Coordinator DES Action Australia-NSW 13th December 2004 Media Release DOCTORS PUT WOMENS HEALTH AT RISK Australias medical specialist college for womens health, the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RANZCOG) has failed to advocate for the health of women exposed to the anti-miscarriage drug DES (diethylstilboestrol). Women exposed to DES in the womb (DES daughters) need a special annual examination to check for a specific cancer (clear cell adenocarcinoma) that can go undetected in regular Pap smears. But the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) refuses to alter its Pap smear recommendations and RANZCOG is doing nothing about it. Unless the TGA changes its advice, doctors and their DES exposed patients will continue believing a routine Pap smear is fine, when in fact it is not. Since doctors follow the TGA advice, it becomes extremely hard for DES daughters to get their own doctors to do the examination they know they really need, says Carol Devine, a DES daughter and founder of DES Action Australia-NSW. According to Devine, its well documented the usual Pap smear is not adequate for DES daughters. So its scandalous and an absolute betrayal of trust that RANZCOG has done nothing to ensure the TGA gives the best advice complying with international protocol. The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare holds data of approximately 86 cases of rare cancer associated with DES exposure, but these have not been investigated. Thats unfortunate because we are still learning about DES. So far there have been 15 cases of cancer, (resulting in 3 deaths), that have been directly linked to DES exposure in Australia. We suspect many, if not all of the other reported clear cell adenocarcinoma cancers were caused by DES, Devine says. Its estimated over 60,000 Australians were exposed to DES so they must remain vigilant about the cancer risks, as well as the reproductive problems linked to the drug. DES Action Australia-NSW pleads with RANZCOG to update the TGA so we can have the best medical international standards in place to care for DES exposure, she adds. Support group member, and DES mother Joan Stear calls the current situation, sheer medical neglect. The way things are now, how can women trust their specialists? # # # # # # For more information contact: Carol Devine 02 98754820 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question
With regards to ultrasound mistakes I have just had a woman come through my classes who was told she had a 2 vessel cord instead of the normal 3 vessel cord - she searched the internet came up with information which distressed her and she was terribly worried throughout the whole course of classes - on the last night she came to me and said that with a follow up ultrasound that day they had discovered that the previous ultrasound had been incorrect and there were 3 vessels in the cord after all. Simple mistake that led to ... well who knows what effects it might have had on her bonding pre-natally with her baby and therefore into the future... Another one in a different group had been told her baby was extremely underweight IUGR by ultrasound - so she went and got a second opinion. New ultrasound at a different clinic in a different area put the baby's calculated weight at 200 grams greater. Still small yes but significant difference so decided not to do c.section straight away - ended with a normal birth with a healthy baby. Some people have enormous faith in technology don't they? The fear of litigation - the need for evidence - is what pushes this faith in technology. I wonder why Australia has not adopted the same system as New Zealand - although not perfect - what system is? It has to be better than our current one. Warm regards, Julie Julie Clarke CBE Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy McCarthy-Bushby Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2004 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question Slyvia, An ultrasound scan is not 100% accurate as we all know. Ultrasounds can fail to pick up significant abnornalities or suggest a problem when one is not there. Our family were thrown in total chaos and confussion when my 4th nephew was diagnosed with a possiblity of hydrocephalus on the 20 week ultrasound. My sister was extremely upset and distressed. A follow up ultrasound at a another hospital (major referral hospital for the state) determined that the baby did not have a hydrocepalus. All that unnecessary stress, fear and worry. He is a healthy, active and beautiful child. I would suggest respecting your sister's choices and support her in whatever she decides. By all means make suggestions, but try not push her in any direction. Afterall, she is dealing with an unexpected result the best way she knows how too. Maybe what you see as denial is a quiet strength that everything is ok with her baby. Perhaps, she is right, that despite the fear she still intuitively knows her baby is alright. Maybe, she is in shock about the result and needs some time before she can make any decisions. However, declining investigations and treatment is your SIL making decisions, but it would help her decision making if she where aware of what are the benefits, the risk, the options and deciding to do nothing are in regard to the investigations and/or treatment. You could ask your SIL if it's ok if you read the scan result , discover if the ultrasound was reviewed by a senior radiologist, and what about a second opinion, talk to a neonatologists or paediatrician, do some research, what is the significance of this finding, if any? Would your SIL if asked, want to know of any suspected abnormalities on ultrasound before it was done? Something that we probably all need to think about asking women when discussing having the 18 - 20 week ultrasound. I hope this helps you during this difficult time kathy - Original Message - From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question Sylvia, My initial gut feeling is that your sister-in-law is right to believe that nothing is wrong. So often I have seen terrible fear dumped on women unecessarily due to some anomaly on an ultrasound scan ... especially if the measurement was done 5 times and only once was it slightly abnormal?? If I was her midwife I would need to read the actual ultrasound report in order to do some research on the woman's behalf to try and get some accurate information for her. An amniocentesis will only pick-up genetic problems, not morphologic abnormalities. It also carries a 1-2% risk of causing a miscarriage of possibly / probably a perfectly normal foetus. I'm not sure if this helps at all. All the best, Leanne. From: Sylvia Boutsalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: antenatal question Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:34:07 +0930
RE: [ozmidwifery] AMA and midwifery-led care
With reference to the discussion on the obstetrician deCosta I find it such a sad fact that she is a woman effectively working against women. As a woman I feel a very strong bond to all my sisters to work together towards humanizing birth and strengthening the role and value of motherhood. When a male obstetrician makes a statement as she has done I write it off to a simple lack of understanding from their perspective, however I find it very hard to excuse her. I wonder if the training of obstetricians is the core of the problem? Or is it simply a personality type that lacks compassion, sensitivity and understanding for all midwives and women? Warm hug to all, Julie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen Semple Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2004 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] AMA and midwifery-led care Fascinating Belinda! Thanks for sharing. Also, here's a link for Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RANZCOG) statement on Homebirth others... http://www.ranzcog.edu.au/publications/collegestatements.shtml Jen --- Belinda Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article by deCosta is interesting she also wrote Costa, C. d. (1999). A noble instrument, the obstetric forceps. Medical Journal of Australia Vol. 170. she is very much of the medical perspective that satisfaction with childbirth is a selfish unimportant side issue and that medical control is still more important and education is about teaching women to be happy with whatever technology, intervention or impersonal care is deemed important by the medical person there. It is all about in my opinion, ensuring medical control and dominance and shuting up these pesky statistics, women and researchers who are continually showing women are not happy with high intervention births (except of course the wealthy educated ones!!! - being very cynical now thinking of journalists etc who seem to get to be seen and heard). My honors thesis was 'An analysis of how homebirth is constructed in medical policy.' Although the AMA told me a few times sa and head offices, that they have no policy I happened to find one on one of my fishing expeditions in the medical library. (Pure luck to find it - every now and then I used to spend time just grabbing journals from he archives and flicking through them - I have found some gems this way that I would otherwise not have found). It also shows their intent toward independent midwives (- there is no place for them in Australia where women have access to doctors) and their unionist push to sway government to support them (the AMA) not midwives or women. Australian Medical Association (AMA), 1990. AMA Home Birth Policy, Australian Medicine, May 7, pp. 8 I can't imagine they have changed, unfortunately, they have too much money and prestige and control to lose if this midwifery lark catches on! - and I am allowing myself the luxury of my bias anger and passion when saying this! Belinda Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] FW: URGENT - Publcily funded Home Birth needs your support!!
No Anne sorry I dont know anyone else?? From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Anne Clarke Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 3:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: URGENT - Publcily funded Home Birth needs your support!! Dear Julie, Would you havean email address for the NSW health minister? Regards, Anne Clarke
[ozmidwifery] FW: URGENT - Publcily funded Home Birth needs your support!!
As I write, the Health Minister, Mr Morris Iemma, currently has before him a reportconsidering publicly funded home birthing for healthy women in NSW. I appreciate how busy everyone is but I think it is an excellent and rare opportunity to express, in the form of letter writing, our need and support for such a service. Therefore, I am asking that all you happy homebirthers, midwives, partners, family and friends, please write the Minister a letter in support of this proposal. It doesn't matter how detailed or straightforward the letter is, the main aim is to inundate the Minister our enthusiasm for such a service. We need to let the politicians know that we are out there and we are not going away until our needs have been met!!! Thanks and all the best - Brigett English PS: I would be grateful if you could please forward my email to all interested parties. Minister's address: Mr Morris Iemma, Minister for Health, NSW Health Department, Level 30, Govenor Macquarie Tower, 1 Farrer Place, NSW 2000 (My letter) Dear Minister Iemma Publicly funded home birth for health women I understand that the NSW Health Department are currently assessing the viability of a home birth service for healthy women. I am writing to you to express my absolute support and enthusiasm for such a service. I gave birth at home in the UK and it was without doubt the most empowering experience of my life. One of the many positive aspects of a publicly funded home birth service is that it will promote the view that birth is essentially a healthy and normal process. I feel that this is something that will be of benefit to all women and their families. Thankfully, there are midwifes currently operating independently in NSW who believe in the birth process. I am so grateful that these health professionals are willing to provide such a valuable maternity service to women like me without insurance and with little support from the medical establishment. I am hopeful that this lack of support for women and their partners, who choose to birth outside the hospital system and the midwives that support them, is about to change! Yours sincerely Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now!
[ozmidwifery] sharing an unusual placenta question - ideas please
Hi all Thank you for your responses so far to the questions I posted last week below are there any more ideas? I have been asked an unusual placenta question tonight that I hope you can all help me with The woman is expecting her first baby there are no complications or problems with this pregnancy there has been no bleeding episodes during the pregnancy so far- however the ultrasound has revealed what appears to be 2 placentas joined by a blood vessel. The questions are: Would we expect there to be a greater risk of 3rd stage complications such as excessive bleeding? Could the blood vessel rupture either during the last few weeks of pregnancy or during the labour, birth or 3rd stage? Has anyone ever encountered this type of situation before and if so what was your experience? Would this be a strong case for having the Syntocinon injection given routinely? Is there a greater risk of pph? Warm hug to all, Julie
[ozmidwifery] sharing an unusual placenta question - ideas please
Hi all I have been asked an unusual placenta question tonight that I hope you can all help me with The woman is expecting her first baby there are no complications or problems with this pregnancy there has been no bleeding episodes during the pregnancy so far- however the ultrasound has revealed what appears to be 2 placentas joined by a blood vessel. The questions are: Would we expect there to be a greater risk of 3rd stage complications such as excessive bleeding? Could the blood vessel rupture either during the last few weeks of pregnancy or during the labour, birth or 3rd stage? Has anyone ever encountered this type of situation before and if so what was your experience? Would this be a strong case for having the Syntocinon injection given routinely? Is there a greater risk of pph? Warm hug to all, Julie
[ozmidwifery] Drs and the new hospital
A New Hospital When a panel of doctors were asked to vote on adding a new wing to their hospital, the Allergists voted to scratch it and the Dermatologists preferred no rash moves. The Gastro-enterologists had a Gut feeling about it, but the Neurologists thought the administration had a lot of nerve, and the Obstetricians stated they  were labouring under a mis-conception. The Ophthalmologists considered the idea short-sighted, the Pathologists yelled, Over my  dead body!, while the Pediatricians said, Grow up! The Psychiatrists thought it was madness, the Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing, and the Radiologists could see right through it! The Internists thought it was a bitter pill to swallow, but the Plastic Surgeon said, This puts a  whole new face on the matter. The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the Urologists felt the scheme wouldn't hold water. The Anesthesiologists thought the whole idea was a Gas, and the Cardiologists didn't have the heart to say no. And in the End, the Proctologists left the decision up to some butt who didn't give a poop. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led birth centres
Hi Jane I recently saw a full listing of midwifery led birth centres on the acmi website. Hope this helps. Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator (Independent) ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Inc. Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane Palmer Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 10:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery led birth centres Hi It has been ages (probably a year or two) since I have contributed to this list. Rejoined a little while ago to get back in touch with midwifery and birthing. I was hoping that you could help me. I am currently revising the book 'Pregnancy For Dummies' Aust and NZ edition and I am very keen to have a greater midwifery focus to this edition. Have decided to put a list of current Midwifery Led Birth Centres both here in Australia and in New Zealand as well as their contact details. Any information on Birth Centres that you can send my way would be much appreciated. Cheers Jane Palmer Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond www.pregnancy.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Very odd TV promo for breastfeeding
Thanks Judy I visited and had a chuckle they are very clever ads arent they? Warm regards Julie From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Judy Giesaitis Sent: Friday, 9 July 2004 10:54 AM To: Ozmidwifery List (E-mail) Subject: [ozmidwifery] Very odd TV promo for breastfeeding Dear List, I was sent this website for the USA Ad Council's website showing their recent ad campaign to encourage breastfeeding. Whilst the idea is just fantastic, the tv promos are WEIRD !! http://www.adcouncil.org/ look under campaigns/breastfeeding Take care, Judy ___ Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this email message is intended for thenamed addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute, take any action reliant on, or disclose any details of the information in this email to any other person or organisation. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately. __ Name; Judy Giesaitis RN CM MSc WHN CAFH Position: Health Consultant, Senior Research Associate in the field of Child Development and Human Relations. Dept:CareLink Company: Australian Health Management Group Address:Locked Bag 3 WOLLONGONG NSW 2500 Phone: 1800.653.316 Fax: 02.4227.1678 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ozmidwifery] C-section on demand
Dear list, I want to share with you the official position statement of the Canadian Association of Midwives on elective c-section. We took our time tochoose our wordsand took the opportunity to make some of our deep beliefs visible. I am proud to be one of the midwives who worked on that.  You can copy it to our colleagues / contacts and you can feel free to email it to whoever you want. best wishes, Céline Lemay CAM/ACSF (Canadian Association of Midwives/Association Canadienne des Sages-Femmes) Position statement on elective cesarean section The Canadian Association of Midwives (CAM) allies with the society of Obstetricians and Gynecologists of Canada (SOGC) by stating that vaginal birth is clearly the safest birth for most women and babies, and that caesarean surgery on demand will have disastrous social and financial consequences for health internationally. CAM advocates safe, sensitive care within a health system that maximizes womens ability to have a normal physiologic labour and birth. We agree with the position taken by Canadian and international midwifery and citizen organizations, that resources are needed to support continuity of care, one to one care in labour and increased access to midwifery services.  The debate around c-section on demand raises deep concerns for midwives about the persistent increase in obstetrical interventions and surveillance technologies used for pregnancy and birth. In many cases the increase is occurring without regard for substantiating data and despite efforts by professional organizations and consumer groups to curb rates of intervention which are not supported by evidence. This trend both reflects and serves to construct a mechanical and fragmented vision of the body and birth and also of the pregnant woman and her unborn baby. It is a product of our societys culture of fear around childbirth and demonstrates the extent to which the epidemic of risk is reflected in maternity care. Presenting interventions such as c-section as options puts maternity care providers and women in a consumerist relationship, and treats childbirth as a problem to be solved rather than a process to be respected. The importance of the social and cultural aspects of birth is supported by a broad humanistic discourse in the scholarly and public literature.  Moreover, strong scientific evidence supports a low intervention approach. Vaginal birth is not an option. It is a complex, highly developed physiologic process that deserves our fundamental respect. It is the role of midwifery and medicine to understand, promote, and facilitate physiologic processes, and to intervene only when necessary. The benefits of caesarean section and certain obstetrical interventions for specific problem situations are irrefutable. However, widespread use of intervention and technology creates fear and doubt about the adequacy of the female body, and reinforces distrust about the reproductive powers of women. When women request interventions that are not medically indicated, and when professionals offer unnecessary technology rather than support and reassurance, it may simply be an _expression_ of those doubts. These requests can also be seen as a reflection of a system greatly in need of improving its ability to provide sensitive, supportive care in childbirth. The research on caesarean section by request clearly shows that anxiety and fear play a major role and that these factors can be addressed by more effective means than by surgery. Offering all women the choice of caesarean section is not safe and not ethical. Midwives work in a model of care that supports the development of relationship. The potential for empowerment through informed choice is much more than a neutral offer of choice. Midwifery care involves mutual trust, dialogue and acknowledgement of the fundamental uncertainty and complexity of pregnancy and birth. In that sense, empowerment comes through a process of shared decision making, not through a menu of choices. For women, families, midwives and for many other maternity care providers, childbirth is a deeply meaningful event. As a multidimensional life experience, its significance and symbolism touch the core of every society and every culture. Embedded in a historical and socio-cultural context, childbirth is far more than a medical event. As professionals, midwives consider the individual woman within her life context, and take into account factors that affect her overall health. Health policy must also take into account the societal implications affecting health as a common good. To build maternity care that is truly women centered will require beginning with the fundamentals: trusting women and supporting their ability to trust themselves, their bodies and the birth process. Approved by the Canadian Association of Midwives Board of Directors June, 2004 Yahoo! Groups Links To
[ozmidwifery] notice of ALCA conference
About ALCA The Australian Lactation Consultants Assoc. (ALCA) is the national professional assoc. for Lactation Consultants and was formed in 1987. We are non-profit, have 500 members, and provide professional development for our members and other health professionals through seminars and conferences. We also provide a quality journal for our members three times a year, and ALCA is very pro-active in supporting and producing educational leaflets for the general public including the popular Breast or Bottle?: an informed choice and Is your Baby sleeping safely? We are funded completely by membership fees and our seminar/conf income, and seek sponsorship for our conferences every two years. As a non-profit assoc. any profits made are used to increase our educational activities and thereby further ALCAs vision: To Promote, Support and Protect Breastfeeding Australia Wide. ALCA can be contacted on 02-6295 0384, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or via alca.asn.au. Breastfeeding-The Link to a Healthy Future Conference is being held in Parramatta, Sydney, from Sat 18 to Wed 22 Sept 2004, with sessions running from Sun 19 to Tues 21Sept 2004, and a special one day workshop on Wed 22 Sept 2004. This conference is focusing on the public health issues of today and their relationship to breastfeeding incl. childhood obesity, cultural impediments to breastfeeding, human imprinting, environmental issues incl. drugs and HIV. We have 5 international speakers including Dr Michael Woolridge, Dr Kay Dewey, Dr Judith Schreiber, Dr Julie Mennella, Dawn Hunter and Peter Hartman and Ching Tat Lai from Australia. Add to these speakers over 40 sessions looking at how breastfeeding links to a healthy future for mother, baby and family, and you have an action packed conference, designed to update and expand your breastfeeding knowledge. The Wed. Workshop will be hosted by Robyn Noble and Anne Bovey and look at breastfeeding from a practitioners perspective. For those interested in the social side, we have the welcome reception at old Govt, an art show, conference dinner and the finale on Tues night: Dr James Akre and Randa Saadeh from WHO hosting a free public discussion at the Parramatta Town Hall. Registration brochure can be taken online from www.alca.asn.au or from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Event Corp on 07-3846 5858.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwife in Townsville?
Hi Tania The contacts I have written down for Queensland for homebirth / midwives are: Home Midwifery Association (07) 3839 5883 Childbirth Education Association Brisbane (07) 3285 8233 Friends of the Birth Centre: Kristina Mok (07) 3856 5589 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.fbc.org.au/main.htm Vicki Chan (07) 5494 8554 Lisca Hoy (07) 3711 3982 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anne Clarke (07) 3300 9579 Marianne Idle Mobile: 0419 727 087 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope the above helps you to track down a midwife in the Cairns area. Warmest regards, Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator (Independent) ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Inc. Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tania Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2004 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwife in Townsville? Just wondering if there is anyone attending homebirths in the Townsville area? Tania
RE: [ozmidwifery] Good news
Hi Jo Elle MacPherson had a waterbirth in the UK for her second son it was written up in the June 2003 Aust Womens Weekly I kept it and put it in a folder to pass around my groups. Elle quoted as saying the water birth was amazing. It was a dark room with candles and very little distraction. Arki was there like he was for Flynn. I didnt need any painkillers or epidural for the birth but I did have my wonderful Indian obstetrician Dr. Gowri Mothra who did reflexology and looked after me. It was a very natural birth and I think your recovery is very rapid when you have no drugs in your system. When youre fit happy and relaxed that helps too! I did a search on google for jeyarani and then went to amazon and found the info below Book Description Childbirth guru Dr Gowri Motha, who practises with Dr Yehudi Gordon author of Birth and Beyond shows women how her revolutionary method helps women carry the baby to full term, have less intervention in the birth; feel less pain in labour, and feel happy and in control. Synopsis Childbirth guru Dr Gowri Motha, who practises with Dr Yehudi Gordon -- author of Birth and Beyond -- shows women how her revolutionary method helps women carry the baby to full term, have less intervention in the birth; feel less pain in labour, and feel happy and in control.; The Gentle Birth method is a concise pregnancy programme combining diverse therapies such as 'creative healing' massage, a simple diet, self-hypnosis, reflexology and affirmation techniques* The method was created by Dr Gowri Motha as an alternative to conventional obstetric practise, when she became alarmed at the increasing number of women needing intervention during their births. It teaches expectant mothers how to train their bodies and minds in order to reduce or prevent complications during pregnancy and labour.; This book outlines the Method, with a month-by-month programme explaining how to rebalance the body and tailor it to the optimum condition for the birthing process. It includes guides to treating problems such as: -- back pain -- nausea -- heartburn -- fluid retention -- stretch marks* The programme offers women a formal framework in which to prepare their bodies and so avoid facing a labour that is unnecessarily long, arduous and traumatic, with significantly lower uptakes of pain relief. From the Publisher The Gentle Birth method is a concise pregnancy programme combining diverse therapies such as creative healing massage, a simple diet, self-hypnosis, reflexology and affirmation techniques. The method was created by Dr Gowri Motha as an alternative to conventional obstetric practise, when she became alarmed at the increasing number of women needing intervention during their births. It teaches expectant mothers how to train their bodies and minds in order to reduce or prevent complications during pregnancy and labour. This book outlines the Method, with a month-by-month programme explaining how to rebalance the body and tailor it to the optimum condition for the birthing process. It includes guides to treating problems such as: back pain,nausea, heartburn, fluid retention and stretch marks. The programme offers women a formal framework in which to prepare their bodies and so avoid facing a labour that is unnecessarily long, arduous and traumatic, with significantly lower uptakes of pain relief. About the Author Dr Gowri Motha has worked as an obstetrician in London since 1981. After opening her practice, The Jeyarani Way, in 1987, she spent 15 years assimilating diverse therapies that became the basis of the Gentle Birth Method. She now works alongside the birthing unit at the prestigious St John and Elizabeths Hospital and the NHS are increasingly looking to incorporate her methods into their own obstetric programmes. She has helped various celebrities through their pregnancies, including Kate Moss, Sadie Frost and Elle McPherson. Karen Swan MacLeod is a journalist who, as well as working as Senior Commissioning Editor at You Magazine, has contributed to titles including Sunday Times, the FT, Tatler and Vogue. She is a former patient of Dr Motha and has experienced the programme first-hand. Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator (Independent) ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Inc. Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2004 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Good news Hi All, I was reading the Who magazine (task avoidance at it's best) and found a 'letter' from Geena Davis who had written in to correct an article that was written about her in a previous edition. She very proudly corrects them that she did
[ozmidwifery] National Independent Childbirth Educators
NATIONAL LIST OF INDEPENDENT CHILDBIRTH EDUCATORS AUGUST 2003 Compiled by Julie Clarke to be included in this list please contact Julie by email [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is intended that the list will be regularly updated. South Australia: Better Birth contact: Larissa Inns Michelle Nangle Address:23 Ormonde Avenue, Warradale SA 5046   Telephone:08 8296 5957 Mobile:0422 327 543 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Better Birth is a one day class held in the south-west metro area of Adelaide.It is facilitated by a Doula and Womens Health Physiotherapist. It focuses on the labour and birth only. It covers areas such as: Working with your body,Your Amazing Pelvis, Getting your baby into position for birth, what speeds labour up and slows it down, How support people can help, massage techniques, Whose decision is it anyway?and more. Lots of practical hands-on stuff. Most people are from the more south-west of Adelaide servicing mainly birthing women from Womens Childrens, Ashford, Flinders Private and Flinders Public Hospitals. Western Australia: Debbie  Slater Address: 12 Goldfinch Avenue, Churchlands, WA 6018 Telephone: 08 9287 1783 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Details of Independent Childbirth Education Classes offered:  Small groups  (usually max 6 couples), covers antenatal and postnatal issues, NCT (UK) trained - Diploma of Higher Education in Antenatal Teaching, University of Luton, UK Region - Metropolitan Perth Inner Birth Gabrielle Targett 27 Chester St, SOUTH FREMANTLE 6162 WA T. 089-335-2071 MOB: 0418-336-362 [EMAIL PROTECTED]I run positive relaxation and childbirth education classes (Inner Birth) at home for woman and hope to start running classes for couples in the not too distant future. I have just completed the Hypnobirthing course and would like to start to use those skills with couples. Alot of my current clients come for my Aquatic Ante Natal classes and Fitball classes that I run here in Fremantle. I also attract many woman who are on the homebirthing program which is based here in Fremantle.I do have alot of women travel from far away suburbs to come to classes as I seem to offer the only type of physical and mental preparation classes in WA. I am also a Doula and attend lots of births of the women I have in my classes. I have had two home water births and one in a small hospital here in WA. My midwife was Mary Murphy. Name: Birth Choices Catherine Evans and Pete Malavisi Address: P.O. Box 111 Vasse 6280 Telephone:0897515300 Facsimile:0897515311 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Details of Independent Childbirth Education Classes offered: Our local independent midwife and myself run quarterly antenatal community classes here in Busselton and Dunsborough (Alternate) The region of area you would describe as your catchment area and the hospitals in that catchment. Busselton Hospital  New South Wales: Yolande Hyde (BIRTHCRAFT) Mackeral beach via Palm Beach nsw 99742014 ph 99745664 fax 0422473916 mob [EMAIL PROTECTED] email I run classes that offer family centred birth and parenting support with an emphasis on natural active birth. I work in the northern beaches area of Sydney in the catchment area for Mona vale and manly hospitals. INNATE BIRTHJo Hunter and Natalie Forbes Dash Address: c/o 72 Bee Farm Rd, Springwood 2777 Telephone: (02) 47 51 9840 – Jo (02) 47 57 2080 – Natalie Mobile: 0412 315 228 – Jo 0410 428 307 – Natalie Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] – Jo   [EMAIL PROTECTED] – Natalie Active Birth workshops covering - Natural active birth, Emotional physical changes, Process of labour - what to expect, Relaxation comfort techniques, Alternative therapies, Fear pain concepts, Fathers and support roles, Pain relief medical interventions, Complications unexpected outcomes, Hospital procedures options, Homebirth, Newborn Characteristics, Breastfeeding, Caring for your babyPostnatal groups for both pregnant and new parents - Settling your baby, Preventing postpartum depression, Breastfeeding, Baby massage, Developmental milestones, Development through play, Fathers, Alternative therapies, Postpartum Doula’s, Sleep issues - babies parents, Sex after birth/contraception, Reflections on birth, sharing stories, Crying babies toddlers, Sibling behaviours, Support/local resources Within our workshops and postnatal groups we aim to create an environment where pregnant women/couples and new parents can gather to make social contact, share experiences and provide mutual support. The region of areaThe Blue Mountains and Western Sydney. Katoomba Hospital, Nepean Hospital, Nepean Private Hospital, Blacktown Hospital.We are happy to go as far as the Inner Western Suburbs of Sydney with our Doula Service. Blissful Beginnings Karen Cole 2 Crowther Place, Tarrawanna, NSW 2518 T: 0418 292 169 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Childbirth Education Classes offered: Preconception, Early Pregnancy, Birth Parenting, Multiple Birth, all available as individual
RE: [ozmidwifery] quiet birth
I have read the article too and I found it very interesting that there was no mention of epidurals. I am wondering is that because the Womens Weekly doesnt want to print anything negative about epidurals. The reporter simply stayed with the idea of quiet birth. H Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Debbie Slater Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2004 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] quiet birth Jo Yes it is the current edition (despite its name the women's weekly is actually monthly :-)) It's a very good piece - no she didn't actually birth at home, but transferred in after labouring for most of the time at home. But once in, she requested low lights etc.. Debbie - Original Message - From: jo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] quiet birth Hi Nic, I had a look on the stand when waiting in the shopping centre queue today and couldn't find the Kate Ceberano interview. Was it this weeks? Did she have a homebirth? How are those bubs of yours? Jo x From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nicole Christensen Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] quiet birth I have just finished reading an article in the Women's Weekly on 'Kate Cebrano's quiet birth'.which describes her belief re. labour birth, which they tie to her Scientology, that labour and birth be a gentle, peaceful, quiet experience my first thoughts were quite positive... yet, I wonder when she states but you don't want to scream out to that effect at all and screaming and yelling might be your primary urge, and completely natural, but what your'e trying to avoid is any suggestion that there's trouble at hand. Does this mean moaning and growling too??? Overall, I think the article is positive in the fact that it highlights natural birth but just wonder what others think - regarding her belief on women holding back from being noisy ?? I don't think that being quiet whilst in labour is a bad thing if mother decides this at time of labour but wonder about pre-conceived ideals PRIOR to labour... which prevent her from groaning etc if she would normally feel comfortable in doing so. look forward to your thoughts... cheers, Nicole ps. I quite like Kate Cebrano - so I'm not anti her... AND I was quiet during the birth of my first baby - BUT this was after a noisy 24 hour labour 4 hours of pushing and really due to complete exhaustion.(and wasn't a premeditated thing).
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: OP stats...interesting
Hi Marilyn and Mary I understand the frustrations you are mentioning with op babies In my sessions I encourage the women along the same lines that both of you are discussing as managing the op presentation but also include recommending the use of the bath with the woman either favouring laying on her left hand side or preferably kneeling and leaning forward in the bath. I also recommend avoiding squatting in the woman is experiencing the baby kicking in the middle at the front, around her belly button, as it would indicate the baby in the op position and squatting would possibly increase the problem. I also suggest to partners to encourage her to lean forward in any position and to place one hand on her lower belly and another hand on her back and to encourage her to release and relax the muscles between these (his) hands. I have had some very favourable feedback on these strategies. If it has not worked at least what I have suggested would do no harm. Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: OP stats...interesting Hi Jo: I never cease to be amazed at how this 1cm/hour or Freidman's Curve continues to be applied rigorously to women in labour. Coming from the homebirth environment to the hospital one, at least to my mindit is hurdle often before women. As a midwifery student this view of labour was presented to us as the statistical norm(for hospital birth)and as such had standard deviations on either side of it that were still normal and they were different for both multips and primips. Of course in a slow labour we have to always be looking out for a truly obstructed labour, maternal, and fetal exhaustion: that is where our skill comes in. Similarly we have to be mindful of truly preciptitous births as opposed to those that are just faster than the norm. Often in birth, complicated ones in particular,the true picture only presents itself with hindsight. Itcan bea delicate art discerning a stalled labour from a slow but progressing one. Similarly we have to resist the urge to normalise everything and accept the persistent OP (or the deep transverse)baby as one who wont come out vaginally and be thankful for the option of caesarean birth. Please note I said PERSISTENT most of these babies will eventually turn and then descend and come out in 2 to 3 pushes: it often takes time, many PERSISTENT position changes, and much support. However some wont or can't turn: their alignment may be just mm out and while both mother and baby have muscle tone the baby remains stuck. Surely we have all heard tales from the past of mothers who slipped into exhausted sleep in such labours, woke up and pushed out their baby. I don't know the statistics ofmorbidity/mortality of mother and baby in such births but can't imagine they are that good as we all know the risks of PPH, infection, etc.. in exhausted mothers and babies. This is why we have to watch and listen very carefully in such situations. Perhaps this is why we don't do this is busy hospital situations where 1:1 care cannot be guaranteed. Perhaps why such births have more successful outcomes in a homebirth/birthcentre environment where 1:1 care is guaranteed. I do wonder about the effectiveness of the so called walking epidural in such slow/stalled labours. Where I practised homebirth in Seattle the slowly progressing, exhaustinglabour was the most frequent reason for hospital transfer and for most of these women an effective epidural and sometimes (but not always) a 'whiff' of syntocinon was all that was needed for the baby to descend and birth. We did haveone baby that never descended past the pelvic brim and mum went to 41+ weeks then SROM, days of early painful labour (with antibiotics and careful monitoring), finally an epidural that never really worked (started with the walking epidural) and finally a c/s: baby was direct OP, only 3300g, mum was extremly fit and active. Another young woman's waters broke at work and she progressed (galloped) to fully dilated in 2 hours, we rushed to her home but finally transferred to the hospital after 2.5 hours of pushing and no descent. This mum refused an epidural or any pain relief, did receive synto for an hour or so, then agreed to a c/s rather than a mid-forceps: baby was too high for a vacumm. This mum again very fit, soccer player, baby just 2800g, persistent direct OP. I do think that often either SROM/ARM are responsible for these babies getting stuck, which is whyI try to preserve membranes
[ozmidwifery] Bumper sticker: Women need more Midwives: safe gentle and natural
Hi Jodie I agree the objective(s) need to focus the attention on the slogan. I would recommend gaining the consumers attention to direct them to the cause of campaigning for birth reform. Women need more midwives: safe gentle and natural Vote for birth reform. It is a very clear message to put on a bumper sticker - it targets the female voter in a succinct way. Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jodie Miller Sent: Monday, 29 March 2004 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] bumper stickers I have seen purple Midwifery Matters bumper stickers around the place. Who makes these? Friends of the Birth Centre (Qld) have a midwife helped me out with a picture of a baby in blue, white and yellow. We sell them for $2 each to cover costs of a small print run. Mostly tho' we give them away. I agree with Cas that Maternity Coalition, as the umbrella organisation, should be the central organisation targetted with a bumper sticker. I think almost all of the slogans below would belong on a bumper sticker. The one that jumps out to me is women in the know know a midwife but maybe it's too subtle? It does bring the element of consumer choice into the debate though, so that's why I like it. I think a generic bumper sticker is a great idea! Jodie Miller Friends of the Birth Centre (Qld) BTW, the slogan Cas said I suggested was firmly tongue in cheek! On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 05:58 pm, Jen Semple wrote: Seeking in-put from MC branches around Oz, consumer organisations, ASIM, etc... ACMI is looking at printing bumper stickers there's interest from Midwives in Private Practice (MIPP in Victoria) possibly MC (Vic) going in together to do a massive print to reduce costs, have heaps of the same stickers floating around on cars all around Oz, etc. Janine Clark (ACMI national student rep) I are looking at organising this... if anyone has any suggestions please let us know! One question to think about/dicuss is if all of these organisations (ACMI, MC, MIPP, ASIM, etc) are keen to get stickers together, each sticker is not going to be able to have each organisation's name on it. So I think each organisation needs to discuss why they want the stickers... to promote the organisation or to promote midwifery/birth reform (or other goal I haven't thought of!). If the goal is to promote midwifery/birth reform, maybe they could all have the MC website on them since that's the umbrella organisation. If the goal is to promote the specific organisation, then I'm not really sure how this could be done. Does anyone have any thoughts/feelings/ideas? I've collated a list of suggested slogans below, but before slogans are debated, it's probably more important to discuss goals priorities. Jen Push for birth reform I want 1-to-1 midwifery care Midwives help people out Women in the know know a midwife The NZ College of Midwives sell 3 stickers for around $1 each: - Start life with a midwife - I chose carefully, I chose a midwife - I'm a midwife Midwives Care! -Naturally!- PROUD TO BE A MIDWIFE SAY HELLO TO A MIDWIFE midwives do it for life midwives do it .. naturally 'human milk for human babies' the goddess or the birth machine - your choice peace on earth begins at birth Midwives: saving the earth, one baby at at time - Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Water Birth Film.
Hi Mary I have a copy of the Born in Water video as well and the couples in my groups enjoy watching it it is very gentle and inspiring for them. The most recent time I watched it was with 2 dear friends Victoria (soon to go to Scotland for midwifery training) and Leah (prenatal yoga teacher) after we had a burning ceremony with the book What to expect (to go wrong) When Youre Expecting. Geoff built a fire for us and we tore the book into thirds and read ridiculous nonsense from each page as we tossed it into the fire. The disempowerment that the book creates for Australian women is extraordinary. The description of Second stage on page 299 really sums up the tone of the book with Up to this point, your active participation in the birth of your child has been negligible. Though youve undeniably taken the brunt of the abuse in the proceedings, your cervix and uterus (and baby) have done most of the work. But now that dilation is complete, your help is needed to push the baby the remainder of the way through the birth canal and out. The description over the next few pages continues with the acceptance of routine forceps and the benefit of episiotomy for the majority of first time mothers. Then we watched great birth videos afterwards Born in Water A Sacred Journey was one of them. It felt good to finish our night together with such wonderful visions. Warm hug to all Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2004 8:31 PM To: list Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Water Birth Film. I have just taken delivery of a new video of 7 waterbirths: 3- 1st births, 3- 2nd 1 4th . It is called Born in Water- a Sacred Journey. It is free of fuss over the topness and would be a great video to show to doctors hospital based midwives as they could easily be reproduced in hospitals/birth centres. I bought it from Birth International. cheers MM
RE: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears and use of epi-no
Hi The first time I saw the Epi-no product was at a future birth conference in Sydney, I took one look at it and laughed - Similarly, to you Lynne, I thought it was a joke... a ridiculous joke... a novelty ... goodness me what will they think of next! Then I walked away and whilst having a cup of tea I suddenly remembered back to when I was pregnant. My thoughts and feelings at that time with concerns to do with pushing my baby out. I had wished at that time for something that I could insert to help my vagina in readiness for the birth. We did do peri massage, but with both births I tore. Fairly strong memory of that really! So I went back to the display area of the conference to the midwife who was explaining the Epi-no product and discussed it with her. That was about 3 or 4 years ago now I think. Lisa Hunt is the rep for the company National Surgical and if you want to ask her about it phone 9524 7046 or freecall 1800 138 138. Since then I have shown my groups the epi-no as another option of choice around preparing for birth. I have found that some people reject it because they are uncomfortable with the concept, or price($180). Just as a matter of interest what do OB's charge for cutting an episi? Then there are others in the groups who can see merit in it, purchase it and then usually have an intact peri. Of course, it does not come with a guarantee :-) Many women through my groups have told stories of big babies, induction with mighty powerful contractions, and other situations where we would see it as high risk for tearing and yet they've remained intact. I can't tell you how absolutely delighted they are at their success. Last year a pregnant midwife friend of mine working in delivery suite was caring for a women who had come through one of my groups. During crowning the woman was clearly quite relaxed and comfortable although the baby was quite sizeable. My friend said she had never seen anything like it and asked the woman how she managed it... the woman explained about her use of the epi-no ... my friend purchased one and was pleased to also have an intact peri with her baby's birth too. I have found that results really speak for themselves and midwives who see the results, especially over a period of time with several different women become enthusiastic about the product. That's the feedback that I am getting from my clients as well. A midwife friend recently criticised the epi-no to me saying that she felt certain it would cause incontinence. However the Continence Foundation has endorsed the product and it has a 2nd use post birth as a pelvic floor trainer. So all round (no pun intended) I think it's an excellent product and if I were pregnant I would definitely be using it. Warmest regards to all Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Staff Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2004 12:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears I agree with what you have written Mary - I feel the Epi-no is yet another intervention replacing an intervention. Sometimes I think (and all, please pardon my inexcusable crudity tonight) that because we women have a vagina, there is this almost obsessive/compulsive urge that something just HAS to be put in it/ something needs to be done to it, it needs to be inspected, examined, all of those things.for whatever reason. I was at a meeting at work with the obs this morning and one said he thought it was a good idea - the Epi-no, I mean! Hastily, after a protest from me, he said that anecdotally, he had found that women on their hands and knees for birth had the least perineal trauma, so perhaps that is worth remembering?!?! When will our bodies be our bodies? regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears Women midwives have used many methods to reduce tearing in childbirth, but I don't believe that we all have to buy Ep-ino. One of the most effective is to get off the birthing bed and either kneel, or support stand, (Michel Odent style) Water birthing helps as does NON-DIRECTED, OPEN GLOTTIS PUSHING in the position of her true choice. . The woman being in touch (literally) with her perineum also helps. Of course, none of these suggestions helps much if the integrity of the woman's tissues is compromised by insufficient nourishment. Just a few suggestions.. cheers, MM I don't know about tried and true but a doula-friend told me one of her clients was using the Epi-no, which is sold through acegraphics
[ozmidwifery] Tracy
Epi-no use as described by the woman Sent: Thursday, 1 January 2004 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Andrew and Tracy and Finn James Julie, We thought you might like to see our new little boy Finn. Finn was born on the 28th December at 10:37am He was 3.46kg and 49cm long and is a very healthy and generally happy baby. The labour caught us a bit by surprise as he was running 4 days late (managed to give his mum and dad a nice Christmas). At 5:30am on the 28th I woke up with cramping and some pains and thought - yep here we go - had a shower and went to make myself some breakfast. By the time I was half way through making breakfast at about 6:15am the contractions were coming on strong and I timed them at 3 contractions in 12 minutes which seemed a bit quick! By that time Andrew had heard me making a bit of noise and gotten up to check on me, he was going to go back to bed but I said he had better have a shower as I thought I might need him around. (Not realising just how quickly things were going to happen). By 7:15 the contractions were consistent, very long and hard work! So we called to see what we should do, and during a 5 minute phone call had 2 contractions. The midwife asked me what I thought I wanted to do and as I was still a bit in denial said I'd wait and see how I went before coming in. (She later told me she knew I'd be in pretty much straight away after talking to me!) I basically hung up the phone and told Andrew to get the bags and anything else we needed as we were going to the hospital, even though I'd only been in labour for 2 hours. A 5 minute trip to the hospital (contractions before during and after the car trip) and we got to the hospital, via a very fast visit to Admissions. Once in the birth room (around 8:00am) I had a hot shower which helped and then the midwife gave me a quick check and let me know I was already 5cm dilated. I found being on my hands and knees quite uncomfortable and found the only relief I got was standing up and leaning on something high and actuallly standing on my toes ( I guess those years of dance finally paid off!) Andrew was great keeping me drinking and keeping the lavender oil burning in the room ( a smell I'll forever associate with giving birth to Finn). At around 9:15am the midwife did another examination and I was 8cm dilated. (3cm in 1 hour - fast and furious), so she suggested I hop in the bath and that's where I stayed! The bath was fantastic, although it probably helped that I was finally getting some rest between contractions. Andrew and I were pretty much by ourselves unless we asked the midwife for help which was really great as it meant we could do what we wanted. I found pretty soon after getting in the bath that I was wanting to push and so Andrew went and grabbed the midwife, and I pushed - three pushes later and the head was out, and I got a bit of a rest before one more big push and that was it! Finn was sitting on my chest in the bath. Talking to the midwife later she said that I had pushed like someone having their second child - which I think in part was due to using the Epi-no, I knew what to expect and how to use the contraction to push. Having had such a short labour, the placenta took much longer to come out and I lost a bit of blood and needed an syntocin drip and catheter before it finally came out about 1 hour later. Even trying to breastfeed FInn hadn't helped so Andrew nursed him while I rested and waited. In the end though I was fine and everything went smoothly. We spent the rest of the day and the night in there and then headed home the next afternoon. Finn had already taken to the breast like a champion so it was a good time to go home. Since then he has been a very relaxed and happy baby. (touch wood) although he has a bit of a horror period from 12 till 4 at night time. We're enjoying having him and just wanted to thank you for your great classes - they gave us the confidence to really do what we wanted for the labour and we couldn't have been happier. Sorry at the incredibly long email, but I thought you might be interested in the details as well as just the statistics! We look forward to seeing you on the 14th. Tracy and Andrew and Finn.
RE: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears and use of epi-no
Ah you are a cheeky girl Denise! You'll need to purchase some more won't you :-) Go to www.sexaids.com giggle giggle :-) hug Julie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Hynd Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2004 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears and use of epi-no Dear Julie Lynne and all, I prefer to tell women that if you feel the need to do something other than the things Mary spoke of try going to a sex shop, for a sex aid or 2? Though I think subsequent pregnancies also tell most women there is a large element of mental letting go, belief in your ability and trust in your body in giving birth which our culture takes from women, not only in regard to birth!! Many sex shops would stock a set or 2 of Japanese Duomo (?spelling) balls which may also make your antenatal sex or just the conversation between a couple intersting, curious, open?? I can not say but I would suspect they are cheaper than a Epi-no certainly les clinical and more intersting in amny ways. They come in different sizes, colours and contain bells unlike the Epi-no as I understand it so you can sing maybe as you get more expert with its usage !! Anyway they are 2 metalic balls with cord between them and cord for removing them as I said bells inside They are a sex aid for developing control and strength of the vaginal wall probably could be used with out sex but also with-out the bells I would hope?? Denise Hynd I lost mine?? - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears and use of epi-no Hi The first time I saw the Epi-no product was at a future birth conference in Sydney, I took one look at it and laughed - Similarly, to you Lynne, I thought it was a joke... a ridiculous joke... a novelty ... goodness me what will they think of next! Then I walked away and whilst having a cup of tea I suddenly remembered back to when I was pregnant. My thoughts and feelings at that time with concerns to do with pushing my baby out. I had wished at that time for something that I could insert to help my vagina in readiness for the birth. We did do peri massage, but with both births I tore. Fairly strong memory of that really! So I went back to the display area of the conference to the midwife who was explaining the Epi-no product and discussed it with her. That was about 3 or 4 years ago now I think. Lisa Hunt is the rep for the company National Surgical and if you want to ask her about it phone 9524 7046 or freecall 1800 138 138. Since then I have shown my groups the epi-no as another option of choice around preparing for birth. I have found that some people reject it because they are uncomfortable with the concept, or price($180). Just as a matter of interest what do OB's charge for cutting an episi? Then there are others in the groups who can see merit in it, purchase it and then usually have an intact peri. Of course, it does not come with a guarantee :-) Many women through my groups have told stories of big babies, induction with mighty powerful contractions, and other situations where we would see it as high risk for tearing and yet they've remained intact. I can't tell you how absolutely delighted they are at their success. Last year a pregnant midwife friend of mine working in delivery suite was caring for a women who had come through one of my groups. During crowning the woman was clearly quite relaxed and comfortable although the baby was quite sizeable. My friend said she had never seen anything like it and asked the woman how she managed it... the woman explained about her use of the epi-no ... my friend purchased one and was pleased to also have an intact peri with her baby's birth too. I have found that results really speak for themselves and midwives who see the results, especially over a period of time with several different women become enthusiastic about the product. That's the feedback that I am getting from my clients as well. A midwife friend recently criticised the epi-no to me saying that she felt certain it would cause incontinence. However the Continence Foundation has endorsed the product and it has a 2nd use post birth as a pelvic floor trainer. So all round (no pun intended) I think it's an excellent product and if I were pregnant I would definitely be using it. Warmest regards to all Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Staff Sent: Wednesday, 4
RE: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears and use of epi-no
Hi Marilyn I don't have any research based evidence on me, though I was loaned info to read through at the beginning. I am sure Lisa Hunt would be happy to provide it though, you can call her on Sydney (02) 9524 7046 or freecall 1800 138 138 Warmest regards Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears and use of epi-no Julie: does the epi-no come with any evidence based research? from what I have read and heard I can imagine its effectiveness, but so could I mentally re perineal massage both antenatally and during labour but the evidence that i have seen doesn't support perineal massage in birth, is equivocal re hands on or hands poised during the birth(seems to depend which side of the atlantic you're on), and only just supports antenatal perineal massage. All of the studies I have seen have been small and this I suspect reduces their strength. I do love the hands on vaginal exploration explained in the pink kit for a woman alone or with her partner. But a lot also depends on the babies position ( especially nuchal hands) and those shoulders and how relaxed we are at helping them birth the shoulders (if needed to). By this I mean that over zealous flexing of the baby's body to birth that anterior shoulder is perhaps responsible for a lot of fourchette tears. In any case I have now seen a lot of primips birth without a tear and others not so fortunate always the baby's head appears to birth without a tear, the tear if there is one, evident on vaginal examination after birth of the placenta. Curious about the evidence marilyn - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] minimising risks of tears and use of epi-no Hi The first time I saw the Epi-no product was at a future birth conference in Sydney, I took one look at it and laughed - Similarly, to you Lynne, I thought it was a joke... a ridiculous joke... a novelty ... goodness me what will they think of next! Then I walked away and whilst having a cup of tea I suddenly remembered back to when I was pregnant. My thoughts and feelings at that time with concerns to do with pushing my baby out. I had wished at that time for something that I could insert to help my vagina in readiness for the birth. We did do peri massage, but with both births I tore. Fairly strong memory of that really! So I went back to the display area of the conference to the midwife who was explaining the Epi-no product and discussed it with her. That was about 3 or 4 years ago now I think. Lisa Hunt is the rep for the company National Surgical and if you want to ask her about it phone 9524 7046 or freecall 1800 138 138. Since then I have shown my groups the epi-no as another option of choice around preparing for birth. I have found that some people reject it because they are uncomfortable with the concept, or price($180). Just as a matter of interest what do OB's charge for cutting an episi? Then there are others in the groups who can see merit in it, purchase it and then usually have an intact peri. Of course, it does not come with a guarantee :-) Many women through my groups have told stories of big babies, induction with mighty powerful contractions, and other situations where we would see it as high risk for tearing and yet they've remained intact. I can't tell you how absolutely delighted they are at their success. Last year a pregnant midwife friend of mine working in delivery suite was caring for a women who had come through one of my groups. During crowning the woman was clearly quite relaxed and comfortable although the baby was quite sizeable. My friend said she had never seen anything like it and asked the woman how she managed it... the woman explained about her use of the epi-no ... my friend purchased one and was pleased to also have an intact peri with her baby's birth too. I have found that results really speak for themselves and midwives who see the results, especially over a period of time with several different women become enthusiastic about the product. That's the feedback that I am getting from my clients as well. A midwife friend recently criticised the epi-no to me saying that she felt certain it would cause incontinence. However the Continence Foundation has endorsed the product and it has a 2nd use post birth as a pelvic floor trainer. So all round (no pun intended) I think it's an excellent product and if I were pregnant I
RE: [ozmidwifery] BMid
Hi The Bachelor of Midwifery is due to commence in NSW in 2005. Julie From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art Sent: Monday, 2 February 2004 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BMid Hi everyone! my Name is Melissah and Im new to this mailing list. I live in the Blue Mountains in NSW with my husband and beautiful 16 month old boy Elijah. I have been thinking of studing Midwifery and herd some talk about the BMid courses starting up here in Aust, and have been eagerly following the chain of converation on these courses now available in a few uni's. Does anyone happen to know if there are any - or will be soon - available mostly by correspondence? Melissah www.Splitart.com - Original Message - From: Jen Semple To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BMid To learn more about prerequisites for the BMid in Vic, go to http://www.vtac.edu.au/common/searchmajors.html do a search for midwifery. Not sure about other states... the other unis that I hear are offering it are Flinders Uni (in SA), Univ of South Aust, UTS- you could try looking @ each uni'sweb sites. I've really enjoyed the course I think the Australian unis ACMI have done a fabulous job setting up a framework for the course according to international best standard evidence based practice. Additionally, I feel we have been reallywell supported bymidwives in private practice many hospitals. However, maternity care opportunities for midwives in Australia is very different than in many other countries the BMid is new here (we have had some teething problems as any new course does). I don't know about the merits of studying in one country over the other, but you may wellhave a different experience depending on what country you study. Hope that answers some of your questions! Cheers, Jen 3rd year BMid, Melbourne Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for theinfoJen. Do you know what the prerequisites are for getting into the course? I also wondered if anyone thought it was worth studying overseasbecause of the different thoughts on birth and midwifery. I have heard that other countries have better, more woman centred, ideas and teachings for midwifery? Thanks Love Abby Yahoo! Greetings Send your love online with Yahoo! Greetings - FREE!
RE: [ozmidwifery] BMid
Hi The Bachelor of Midwifery is due to commence in NSW in 2005. Julie From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art Sent: Monday, 2 February 2004 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BMid Hi everyone! my Name is Melissah and Im new to this mailing list. I live in the Blue Mountains in NSW with my husband and beautiful 16 month old boy Elijah. I have been thinking of studing Midwifery and herd some talk about the BMid courses starting up here in Aust, and have been eagerly following the chain of converation on these courses now available in a few uni's. Does anyone happen to know if there are any - or will be soon - available mostly by correspondence? Melissah www.Splitart.com - Original Message - From: Jen Semple To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BMid To learn more about prerequisites for the BMid in Vic, go to http://www.vtac.edu.au/common/searchmajors.html do a search for midwifery. Not sure about other states... the other unis that I hear are offering it are Flinders Uni (in SA), Univ of South Aust, UTS- you could try looking @ each uni'sweb sites. I've really enjoyed the course I think the Australian unis ACMI have done a fabulous job setting up a framework for the course according to international best standard evidence based practice. Additionally, I feel we have been reallywell supported bymidwives in private practice many hospitals. However, maternity care opportunities for midwives in Australia is very different than in many other countries the BMid is new here (we have had some teething problems as any new course does). I don't know about the merits of studying in one country over the other, but you may wellhave a different experience depending on what country you study. Hope that answers some of your questions! Cheers, Jen 3rd year BMid, Melbourne Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for theinfoJen. Do you know what the prerequisites are for getting into the course? I also wondered if anyone thought it was worth studying overseasbecause of the different thoughts on birth and midwifery. I have heard that other countries have better, more woman centred, ideas and teachings for midwifery? Thanks Love Abby Yahoo! Greetings Send your love online with Yahoo! Greetings - FREE!
RE: [ozmidwifery] terrible story
Dear Abby I winched and felt sick as I read you account - I am very glad for your sister that she has you and such a great supportive family around her - good on your mum too. What incredible stress this situation must have created for you all. I would recommend documenting everything that has occurred - including all comments from the family and having your sister clarify and check the details to ensure accuracy - then all to sign it. Try to remember the names of all staff involved and document the names as well. If not then a description of the person with the time it occurred. I would then suggest keeping a copy of it and sending it to the general manager of the hospital involved with a request for a meeting with him/her. I do not encourage legal action, however I think a please explain to the general manager is the best course of action. If you have constructive feedback to offer the general manager then I would suggest having it ready. Be involved in improvements wherever possible. I believe this would be very appropriate for gaining effective positive change within the system. That is how it is done, rather than widely publicised as that approach attacks the good staff too and burns them out. Warmest wishes Julie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2004 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] terrible story Dear Abby, This sounds so terrible. I hope your sister can carry on being a strong mother and get over this terrible set back. It all sounds like something from the 19th century. This sort of behaviour should be widely publicised to show that doctors and nurses can't manipulate women just for trying to be in control of their health and well being. It would seem from what has been said on this site that the hospital wasn't using best practice, and then to compound it all they try to section your poor sister. It really sounds awful, someone should be apologising and heads should be rolling. Best wishes, Claire Saxby _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Headline - Birthing pools ease need for pain relief
Birthing pools ease need for pain relief By Ruth Pollard, Health Reporter January 27, 2004 URL: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/26/1075087963778.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] trauma birth stress
Hi Id be interested in your comments on what subjects have been taught in the Bmid and what subjects you feel you would have liked / needed more on? Thanks Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda Kevin Gommers Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] trauma birth stress Jen, I'm a 1st yr student at ACU. Don't know if this is so relevant, but one of my FTJ's had an awful experience when her 1st son was born - he was diagnosed very quickly with Downs Syndrome, and she felt that the midwives didn't know how to cope with this, and left her totally alone. This gave her a very negative perspective on her birthing experience.She is very keen to pass this information on to new midwife students so that they learn what the woman goes through. Already I have investigated the possibility of her coming in to talk to our group next year. Amanda - Original Message - From: Jen Semple To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] trauma birth stress Cas, What a valuable thing your group was able to contribute to those mid. students! I'm a 2nd year BMid student in Melbourne while we have touched on trauma birth stress, we haven't heard it from the persective of the individual her experience. Any idea if there's such a group in Melbourne who might be interested? Cheers, Jen Wayne and Caroline McCullough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We did a talk for a bunch of midwifery students on PTSD at Griffith Uni last Friday and some of them were really shocked at the stories we shared. It was a good talk and they seemed to get the picture. Cheers, Cas. www.casmccullough.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search
[ozmidwifery] Consumer rep
The SMH Saturday 11th October will contain an ad for a 'Consumer and Community Representative' for the NSW maternal and perinatal Committee. This is the peak committee within NSW Health that advises the Minister on maternity and perinatal care issues. As such, it is very important! It would be good if there were several applications.
RE: [ozmidwifery] New Birth Book
Denise Thank you for the link I visited and am very impressed I have my fingers crossed this book might help to counter the damage done by What to Expect to go wrong when your Expecting. I wonder if it is available in Australia yet? Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Hynd Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2003 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] New Birth Book Editor of Mothering Magazine has written a birth book worth a look ? http://www.mercola.com/2003/sep/20/natural_birth.htm Denise
RE: [ozmidwifery] Sensuously Special Pre-natal session
Hi Tina Try looking for Jane Campbell-Kaye a wonderful yoga teacher in the Brisbane area. Perhaps the birth centre would have her phone number. I have an old email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] warmest regards, Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M T Holroyd Sent: Friday, 5 September 2003 9:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Sensuously Special Pre-natal session Hi Julie, Do you know of anywhere in Brisbane that runs pre-natal sessions such as yours. This sounds so amazing... makes me envious that I found nothing like that during any of my pregnancies. Keep up the wonderful work. Tina H. - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke To: Ozmidwifery Mailing List Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Sensuously Special Pre-natal session Hi fellow listers, I had a pre-natal session last night which was such a pleasure I thought Id share it with you it was one of those very memorable magical nights This class is a little different in that it is an open group and unstructured. The couples who choose to attend do not have to book in, they can come and go on a weekly basis, and only pay for the night they attend. It is totally unstructured except for commencing with a breath awareness relaxation and finishing with a relaxation/visualisation. The theme alternates from one week to the next between Birth and Babies, so its kept very broad and caters to the groups needs. We commenced with a 20-minute breath awareness relaxation music by Enya Watermark. Aromatherapy oil vaporising was mandarin, which is light fresh and uplifting. They enjoyed it and relaxed well in the darkness with just a touch of light streaming in from the hallway. Towards the end of the relaxation, I asked the women to place their 2 hands on their belly and send a message of love to their baby then I asked the partners to place a hand also on the belly and send a message of love to the baby too. They all did it easily and some smiled lightly. Then I encouraged a long stretch before slowly sitting back up. After the relaxation, I put on only one set of lights to try to maintain the mood of peacefulness. Next an ice-breaker: a quick go around of the group with each person introducing their partner saying how many weeks pregnant or for the women how many weeks to go before their partner becomes a Dad, and then what positive quality / character trait they possess now that you believe they will bring to parenting. Their responses were beautiful Love, gentleness, patience, kindness, sense of humour, warmth Then I guided them into the siting back to back exercise and guided them through an awareness of each other, the other persons breathing, their movement, their warmth, through a brief exercise of gently leaning on each other I talked to them about working as a team throughout labour and parenting, trusting, supporting, caring I then asked them to stay in that position, taking hold of their partners hands and resting for a moment then giving a gentle squeeze as a gesture of thanks for the support. I then asked them to move (still only in their couples) face to face, closely and to give feedback about how that exercise felt for them privately, not sharing to the group they giggled and held each other, arms and legs entwined, rubbed noses Maori style, kissed, smiled and hugged. They talked very quietly, leaning on each other, quite intimately for several minutes. They were quite joyous, lots of smiling. Afterwards I got the women to relax luxuriously back onto their beanbags and I gave each of the partners a towel and lots of lavender massage oil to set them up for foot massage I didnt give them instructions these couples were connected enough; they knew how to touch each other. Whilst the partners were massaging I showed them the video A Timeless Way a history of birth they laughed out loud at the part where the old 1950s footage has a doctor speaking saying There is a variety of medications available from gas to caudal etc however you will leave the decision to the doctor as to which medication will be required for you In the debrief period after the video they brought it up again and laughed again saying things like wow wasnt it different in the old days!! Then we had a quick cuppa break they received the chocy bickies that my Tuesday nights class had left behind they devoured them! We finished with a long relaxation visualisation I let them choose which one they wanted they came up with a giving birth visualisation I think they were
[ozmidwifery] Sensuously Special Pre-natal session
Hi fellow listers, I had a pre-natal session last night which was such a pleasure I thought Id share it with you it was one of those very memorable magical nights This class is a little different in that it is an open group and unstructured. The couples who choose to attend do not have to book in, they can come and go on a weekly basis, and only pay for the night they attend. It is totally unstructured except for commencing with a breath awareness relaxation and finishing with a relaxation/visualisation. The theme alternates from one week to the next between Birth and Babies, so its kept very broad and caters to the groups needs. We commenced with a 20-minute breath awareness relaxation music by Enya Watermark. Aromatherapy oil vaporising was mandarin, which is light fresh and uplifting. They enjoyed it and relaxed well in the darkness with just a touch of light streaming in from the hallway. Towards the end of the relaxation, I asked the women to place their 2 hands on their belly and send a message of love to their baby then I asked the partners to place a hand also on the belly and send a message of love to the baby too. They all did it easily and some smiled lightly. Then I encouraged a long stretch before slowly sitting back up. After the relaxation, I put on only one set of lights to try to maintain the mood of peacefulness. Next an ice-breaker: a quick go around of the group with each person introducing their partner saying how many weeks pregnant or for the women how many weeks to go before their partner becomes a Dad, and then what positive quality / character trait they possess now that you believe they will bring to parenting. Their responses were beautiful Love, gentleness, patience, kindness, sense of humour, warmth Then I guided them into the siting back to back exercise and guided them through an awareness of each other, the other persons breathing, their movement, their warmth, through a brief exercise of gently leaning on each other I talked to them about working as a team throughout labour and parenting, trusting, supporting, caring I then asked them to stay in that position, taking hold of their partners hands and resting for a moment then giving a gentle squeeze as a gesture of thanks for the support. I then asked them to move (still only in their couples) face to face, closely and to give feedback about how that exercise felt for them privately, not sharing to the group they giggled and held each other, arms and legs entwined, rubbed noses Maori style, kissed, smiled and hugged. They talked very quietly, leaning on each other, quite intimately for several minutes. They were quite joyous, lots of smiling. Afterwards I got the women to relax luxuriously back onto their beanbags and I gave each of the partners a towel and lots of lavender massage oil to set them up for foot massage I didnt give them instructions these couples were connected enough; they knew how to touch each other. Whilst the partners were massaging I showed them the video A Timeless Way a history of birth they laughed out loud at the part where the old 1950s footage has a doctor speaking saying There is a variety of medications available from gas to caudal etc however you will leave the decision to the doctor as to which medication will be required for you In the debrief period after the video they brought it up again and laughed again saying things like wow wasnt it different in the old days!! Then we had a quick cuppa break they received the chocy bickies that my Tuesday nights class had left behind they devoured them! We finished with a long relaxation visualisation I let them choose which one they wanted they came up with a giving birth visualisation I think they were feeling confident, empowered, and ready to face the challenge of visualising going through labour and birth. Afterwards they gave lots of positive feedback about different aspects of the visualisation powerful, helpful, liked the words, feel ready now. One of the women is due in only 5 days, so we finished with me saying to her on behalf of the rest of the group please take our warmest wishes with you they all then murmured some supportive comments to her too, and I invited them to return to show us their baby and tell us their birth story next Wednesday evening if they were in the hospital and would like to return as visitors. I then extended the invitation to everyone in the group to do the same, if it was convenient for them, if they just happened to be in the hospital on the Wednesday night and felt like visiting J they agreed and smiled. Tonight was one of those nights where I simply had a potpourri of things to select from and yet no real preparation other than the theme of Birth it turned out to be a magical night as I drove home I was on such a high! Pure Bliss. I am so blessed to have such a wonderful job. Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip
RE: [ozmidwifery] questions about care options in sydney
Hi Jo Welcome to Sunny Sydney :-) You are posing excellent questions prior to making your decision. I would recommend posing these questions in person with the relevant managers of each of the birth centres in the south eastern Sydney area health service. King George is now known as Royal Prince Alfred Hospital and the direct line to the birth centre there is 9515 5284 located at Missenden Rd, Camperdown. Royal Hospital for Women is 9382 6116 located at Barker Street Randwick. St George Hospital Birth centre is 9350 3103 located at Belgrave Street Kogarah. I'd suggest visiting and talking with the midwives at all 3 birth centres for a truly informed decision making process. For Independent midwives working in the Eastern suburbs I'd recommend telephoning Jan Robinson on 9546 4350 and Betty Vella on 9540 4992 and Robyn Dempsey on 9888 7829 and Akal Khalsa 9660 2127 Hope this information assists you. Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] questions about care options in sydney Hi, I am fairly new to this list, I hope that this is the right place to be asking these questions. I had my first child 18 months ago in Adelaide, at the Birth Centre at the QEH. We received truly excellent care throughout my pregnancy, the birth and with breastfeeding problems afterwards, I wouldn't hesitate to go back but we are now living in Sydney. I am not yet pregnant but I am feeling anxious to know what my options are and a girlfriend who lives round the corner has just found out she is pregnant so we have decided to explore all the options available to us together. I would like to know: 1) is there a publicly funded caseload/continuity of care program running anywhere in sydney? 2) is there any publicly funded homebirth otpion available in sydney? 3) where do I find a list of independent midwives working in the eastern suburbs? 4) does the RWH birth centre allow you to book as a private patient under the care of an independant midwife? If so is there a limited list of midwives who have admitting rights? The same questions for the KGV birth centre actually. 5) where can I find out stats on the birth centres at Randwick and KGV such as transfer out rates (before and during labour), intervention rates for transfered women and also any policies I am likely to want to know about (for example do they have policies regarding active management of 3rd state, water birth, breech, twins, vbac, time limits, etc). 6) who is the right person to contact in order to make a time to see the RWH and KGV birth centres and talk in person about their philosophies and policies? 7) I would also like to make a shortlist of good OBs should one become necessary so anyone on this list who is able to recommend an OB practicing preferably at RWH/POWP, but anywhere in sydney would do, who is very supportive of natural birth and is for example homebirth friendly and experienced with vaginal breech, please let me know. I would also be very grateful for warnings of anyone to particularly steer clear of. If you prefer to answer this last question privately (or any of the questions really) please feel free to email me directly. thanks so much! Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Extending the breast
Dear Pinky I have just read your column and was very impressed I particularly like the way you threaded through the concept of breastfeeding as a comfort is better than paracetamol any day!!! On the opposite page is a huge advertisement for Panadol with the claim gentler on tummies than any other pain reliever. I think most mums will agree with you wholeheartedly J Keep up the great work and well done!!! Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinky McKay Sent: Tuesday, 26 August 2003 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Extending the breast Hi Ladies - it's in! My column in Practical Parenting this month is - EXtending the Breast - interviews with Megan Resch (nursing an 18 month old) and Jane Palmer (tandem nursing!!!).Thanks ozmidders for all your offers of interviews -I only get about 500 words but I do have you all on file - some day I may get another opportunity (my next book??) to do some more interviews. How about some letters to the ed from some deviants ??? Just to let them know we do exist in relatively large numbers -She also deserves a bouquet for the three drug free birth stories in this issue.Its called Natural Born Winners! One is a twins birth.Not exactly gentle planned births but it is great to see women can do it anyway and they rate a mention even though they aren't dramaticor traumatic. Pinky
[ozmidwifery] Post - Natal Reunion (Partners)
Hi all I have just received this email from a dad in one of my groups scroll down I have removed any identifying info re: confidentiality. This is a very successful outcome because of using the Fatherhood Activity in the group. Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: Sent: Monday, 18 August 2003 7:49 AM To: Subject: Post - Natal Reunion (Partners) Hi Guys, It was great to catch up last Saturday showing our babies off. In the future, if any of you dad's would like to get together, maybe for a coffee on the weekend or a catch up or a bit of a compare babyhood technics. The mum's always do it during the week why can't we do it sometimes on the weekends/evenings? If you are interested please give me a call on It would be nice to keep the family contacts going well into the future. Thanks attachment: image001.jpg
[ozmidwifery] FW: 50% of list of good websites to visit
Pregnancy Birth www.birthinternational.com Educational resources for midwives, childbirth educators and parents. Also links to other good websites. www.avera.org/adam1st_trimester/tools/fetaldev_tool.htm Extraordinary website showing fetal development. www.visembyro.com/baby/index.html Development of embryo and fetus throughout pregnancy http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/debra_betts Acupuncture information for turning a breech baby in late pregnancy www.birthpsychology.com/birthscene/initiative.html for birthing info by Dr. Marsden Wagner www.maternitycoalition.org.au mothers and midwives working together to improve maternity services in Australia www.cordclamping.com A collection of articles regarding cord clamping. http://birthrites.edsite.com.au/ Caeserean information and VBAC info. Guide booklet available to download and distribute. Birthrites philosophy: With knowledge we can make choices that lead to empowerment, and healing through birth www.cochraneconsumer.com Cochrane collaboration consumer network www.nctpregnancyandbabycare.com National Childbirth Trust (UK) www.dvirc.org,au/publications/pregnancy/parenting.htm A Supportive Guide for Survivors of Child Sexual Abuse www.nace.org.au National Association of Childbirth Educators (AUST) www.mayo.edu/ultrasound/news/ article regarding ultrasound use for unborn babies. www.birth.com for excellent birthing information. On-line ante-natal classes. www.activebirthcentre.com/freearticlesandreports.html the website of Janet Balaskas author of the wonderful book New Active Birth. Lots of good articles available to print off and keep. www.sheilakitzinger.com the website of the anthropologist Sheila Kitzinger author of many books on Pregnancy, labour birthing and breastfeeding and parenting. www.cea-nsw.com.au/video-library.html Childbirth Education Association. (Sydney)Provides a 7-day video library borrowing service www.waterbirth.org Global Maternal/Child Health Association have produced Gentle Birth Choices video. Available from CEA video library. www.wonderfulbirth.com the website of a very popular independent childbirth educator in Melbourne www.birthjourney.com website of Lois Wattis Independent Midwife in Western Austalia www.melbmidwifery.com.au website of Robyn Thompson Independent midwife in Melbourne www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm website of Joy Johnson Independent midwife in Victoria www.maternitywise.org since 1918 the Maternity Center Association has been dedicated to the needs and interests of childbearing women and their families. This website helps women learn about options and make informed decisions. www.parenting.telecampus.com Holistic overview of modern birth. www.cares-sa.org.au Covers information on caesarean and vbac and having a baby in Adelaide. www.nutritionaustralia.org for nutrition information www.homebirthaccesssydney.org.au for information on homebirth and independent midwives. www.pregnancy.com.au website of Jane Palmer independent midwife www.gentlebirth.org This site hosts a number of midwifery related web pages. www.birthpsychology.com/apppah Association for Pre and Perinatal Psychology and Health (A.P.P.A.H.) www.mayo.edu/ultrasound/news Describes the effect of ultrasound on the fetus. The sound of a train Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
[ozmidwifery] next 50% of list of good websites to visit
Baby Care Breastfeeding and Parenting www.breastfeeding.asn.au this is the site of the Australias Breastfeeding Association lots of good articles available to print. www.babymilkaction.org regarding unethical formula companies www.swahs.nsw.gov.au/karitane Karitane Mothercraft Society www.cs.nsw.gov.au/Tresillian Tresillian www.sch.edu.au Sydney Childrens Hospital www.sidsaustralia.org.au SIDS www.lalecheleague.org Le Leche League International providing support for breastfeeding www.infantmassage.org.au Infant Massage Australia courses available for parents www.compleatmother.com Creative site dealing with controversial issues: vaccinations, circumcision etc. www.parentscentre.org.nz/having_a_baby/c-vitamink.htm vitamin k injection offered routinely to all newborns www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/vitaminksystemic20259 for more info on Vit K www.nocirc.org regarding circumcision decision making www.circinfo.org National organisation of Circumcision Information www.positiveparenting.com For parenting information www.amba.org.au Australian Multiple Birth Association information for parents of twins triplets and more! www.aromababy.com Beautiful aromatherapy oils for mother and baby. www.jurlique.com.au Pure prenatal skin care www.swsahs.nsw.gov.au/karitane Karitane provides support, guidance and information to families with children 0-5 years who are experiencing parenting difficulties. Usually feeding, sleeping or behaviour. Care line a 24 hr state wide service 1800 677 961 or 9794 1800. www.attachmentparenting.org Promotes a parenting philosophy nurturing strong emotional family bonds. www.iamyourchild.org Raising awareness of brain development in early years. www.agsnet.com American Guidance Services under parenting see S.T.E.P. Systematic Training for Effective Parenting. The direct web link is www.agsnet.com/Markets.asp?sMarketCode=4 www.stophitting.com the centre for effective discipline alternatives to corporal punishment www.askdrsears.com Dr. Sears USA Pediatrician www.relationships.com.au Relationships Aust provides individual, couple and family counseling, mediation, relationship and parenting education. www.sydneycounselling.com.au Provides psychological help and support for all matters relating to childcare, parenting and family issues. www.stjohnnsw.com.au St John Ambulance first aid training and has a special short course designed for parents Caring for Kids. www.pinky-mychild.com From unborn child to teen child, Pinky McKay author of Parenting by Heart and 100 Ways to Calm the Crying offers a gentle approach to parenting, nurturing links forum and email newsletter. www.parenting.telecampus.com/ Holistic overview of modern birth. www.cares-sa.org.au Covers information on caesarean and vbac and having a baby in Adelaide. www.avn.org.au Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) for information on vaccination for infants www.health.gov.au:80/hfs/pubhlth/cdi/cdi2402/c Commonly asked questions about vaccines and answers by the Commonwealth Dept of Health and Aging. www.ncirs.usyd.edu.au National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (see article in the NCIRS facts section noting the manufacturing companies who produce vaccines for children without thiomersal.) www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/a-z/immunisation.html NSW Health Department immunization web page, immunization timetable. Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] core of life video
Hi I have a feeling the video you are describing is The Art of Birth by Shea Caplice. 2 of the waterbirths are homebirths and the other 2 are at the Royal Hospital for Women Birth Centre. Shea and Sheryl are the wonderful midwives at 3 of the births and Jan Robinson shows brilliant midwifery skills at the 4th homebirth waterbirth. It is available from Birth International. I show it in my hospital classes and in my independent practise the video is both very moving and yet gives groups a couple of laughs too. Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheena Johnson Sent: Friday, 15 August 2003 8:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] core of life video Sally I am not sure how you would get a copy. One of the student midwives that did the presentation works at Rosebud Hospital, where this programme the core of life was first used. I suggest you ring Rosebud hospital and ask for a contact no. They have developed a very good educational package and are running training sessions (Train the trainer) for midwives interested in taking the programme into schools in their region. Regards Sheena
[ozmidwifery] 50% of list of good websites to visit
Pregnancy Birth www.birthinternational.com Educational resources for midwives, childbirth educators and parents. Also links to other good websites. www.capersbookstore.com.au Educational resources for midwives, childbirth educators and parents. www.avera.org/adam1st_trimester/tools/fetaldev_tool.htm Extraordinary website showing fetal development. www.visembyro.com/baby/index.html Development of embryo and fetus throughout pregnancy http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/debra_betts Acupuncture information for turning a breech baby in late pregnancy www.birthpsychology.com/birthscene/initiative.html for birthing info by Dr. Marsden Wagner www.maternitycoalition.org.au mothers and midwives working together to improve maternity services in Australia www.cordclamping.com A collection of articles regarding cord clamping. http://birthrites.edsite.com.au/ Caeserean information and VBAC info. Guide booklet available to download and distribute. Birthrites philosophy: With knowledge we can make choices that lead to empowerment, and healing through birth www.cochraneconsumer.com Cochrane collaboration consumer network www.nctpregnancyandbabycare.com National Childbirth Trust (UK) www.dvirc.org,au/publications/pregnancy/parenting.htm A Supportive Guide for Survivors of Child Sexual Abuse www.nace.org.au National Association of Childbirth Educators (AUST) www.mayo.edu/ultrasound/news/ article regarding ultrasound use for unborn babies. www.birth.com for excellent birthing information. On-line ante-natal classes. www.activebirthcentre.com/freearticlesandreports.html the website of Janet Balaskas author of the wonderful book New Active Birth. Lots of good articles available to print off and keep. www.sheilakitzinger.com the website of the anthropologist Sheila Kitzinger author of many books on Pregnancy, labour birthing and breastfeeding and parenting. www.cea-nsw.com.au/video-library.html Childbirth Education Association. (Sydney)Provides a 7-day video library borrowing service www.waterbirth.org Global Maternal/Child Health Association have produced Gentle Birth Choices video. Available from CEA video library. www.wonderfulbirth.com the website of a very popular independent childbirth educator in Melbourne www.birthjourney.com website of Lois Wattis Independent Midwife in Western Austalia www.melbmidwifery.com.au website of Robyn Thompson Independent midwife in Melbourne www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm website of Joy Johnson Independent midwife in Victoria www.maternitywise.org since 1918 the Maternity Center Association has been dedicated to the needs and interests of childbearing women and their families. This website helps women learn about options and make informed decisions. www.parenting.telecampus.com Holistic overview of modern birth. www.cares-sa.org.au Covers information on caesarean and vbac and having a baby in Adelaide. www.nutritionaustralia.org for nutrition information www.homebirthaccesssydney.org.au for information on homebirth and independent midwives. www.pregnancy.com.au website of Jane Palmer independent midwife www.gentlebirth.org This site hosts a number of midwifery related web pages. www.birthpsychology.com/apppah Association for Pre and Perinatal Psychology and Health (A.P.P.A.H.) www.mayo.edu/ultrasound/news Describes the effect of ultrasound on the fetus. The sound of a train Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] internet sites
Hi Lois and all In response to the mention of the list of internet sites I have compiled I am happy to pass them on to everyone but it is too large to be included in one go on Ozmidwifery so I will look at breaking into 2 or 3 lists. If this is not successful - it won't appear on the list over the next few days - in this case those who are interested are welcome to email me direct and I will send them to you. Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lois Wattis Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 11:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] internet sites Hi Alphia, here are some to start off:- www.birthjourney.com www.birthrites.org. www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au Julie Clarke compiled an excellent list of websites recently. I wourld recommend you email her via ozmidwifery for a copy. Kind regards, Lois - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] internet sites Hello to all of you wise women out there, Continuing the research - I have found that many of my respondents continuously make use of the internet to aid them with their birthing choices. So I am currently attempting to search the internet and find various sites that support the many approaches that women take to birth - from the homebirth to the planned caesarean. So if anyone knows of some sites I would really appreciate it if you could forward them onto me. The impact of the net on our birthing choices is amazing - something that I have never quite considered. Thanking everyone in advance Warmly Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] next 50% of list of good websites to visit
Baby Care Breastfeeding and Parenting www.breastfeeding.asn.au this is the site of the Australias Breastfeeding Association lots of good articles available to print. www.babymilkaction.org regarding unethical formula companies www.swahs.nsw.gov.au/karitane Karitane Mothercraft Society www.cs.nsw.gov.au/Tresillian Tresillian www.sch.edu.au Sydney Childrens Hospital www.sidsaustralia.org.au SIDS www.lalecheleague.org Le Leche League International providing support for breastfeeding www.infantmassage.org.au Infant Massage Australia courses available for parents www.compleatmother.com Creative site dealing with controversial issues: vaccinations, circumcision etc. www.parentscentre.org.nz/having_a_baby/c-vitamink.htm vitamin k injection offered routinely to all newborns www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/vitaminksystemic20259 for more info on Vit K www.nocirc.org regarding circumcision decision making www.circinfo.org National organisation of Circumcision Information www.positiveparenting.com For parenting information www.amba.org.au Australian Multiple Birth Association information for parents of twins triplets and more! www.aromababy.com Beautiful aromatherapy oils for mother and baby. www.jurlique.com.au Pure prenatal skin care www.swsahs.nsw.gov.au/karitane Karitane provides support, guidance and information to families with children 0-5 years who are experiencing parenting difficulties. Usually feeding, sleeping or behaviour. Care line a 24 hr state wide service 1800 677 961 or 9794 1800. www.attachmentparenting.org Promotes a parenting philosophy nurturing strong emotional family bonds. www.iamyourchild.org Raising awareness of brain development in early years. www.agsnet.com American Guidance Services under parenting see S.T.E.P. Systematic Training for Effective Parenting. The direct web link is www.agsnet.com/Markets.asp?sMarketCode=4 www.stophitting.com the centre for effective discipline alternatives to corporal punishment www.askdrsears.com Dr. Sears USA Pediatrician www.relationships.com.au Relationships Aust provides individual, couple and family counseling, mediation, relationship and parenting education. www.sydneycounselling.com.au Provides psychological help and support for all matters relating to childcare, parenting and family issues. www.stjohnnsw.com.au St John Ambulance first aid training and has a special short course designed for parents Caring for Kids. www.pinky-mychild.com From unborn child to teen child, Pinky McKay author of Parenting by Heart and 100 Ways to Calm the Crying offers a gentle approach to parenting, nurturing links forum and email newsletter. www.parenting.telecampus.com/ Holistic overview of modern birth. www.cares-sa.org.au Covers information on caesarean and vbac and having a baby in Adelaide. www.avn.org.au Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) for information on vaccination for infants www.health.gov.au:80/hfs/pubhlth/cdi/cdi2402/c Commonly asked questions about vaccines and answers by the Commonwealth Dept of Health and Aging. www.ncirs.usyd.edu.au National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (see article in the NCIRS facts section noting the manufacturing companies who produce vaccines for children without thiomersal.) www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/a-z/immunisation.html NSW Health Department immunization web page, immunization timetable. Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
