Re: Pentax LZ-A?
AFAIK, the original FM2 had 1/200x while the FM2n (the serial number should have an 'n') have 1/250x. Another difference is that the shutter blades on the original FM2, have honeycomb patterns. regards, Alan Chan > > > My old FM2 had flash sync at 1/250th, its never been lower in the FM2x > > > models AFAIK > > > > > > The FM2 had a sync speed of 1/200th but it had a mechanical shutter with >no > > AE. The FE2 had a sync speed of 1/250th and it had AE, but the shutter > > didn't work without a battery. > >See pics of *my* special 1/250th sync FM2: > >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/fs348.jpg >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/fs345.jpg > >Cheers, > >Rob Studdert >HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA >Tel +61-2-9554-4110 >Fax +61-2-9554-9259 >UTC(GMT) +10 Hours >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap zoom wide-angle
In a message dated 2/9/01 10:23:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Thank you all for sharing your insights about this topic. You can be sure your thoughts will be taken into consideration when I finally place my order. >> For the Vivitar 17-28 f/4 zoom no doubt. Suda Mafud, A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Welcome to the PDML
Doug Brewer wrote: ... > > 1.) It is a moderately active list, generating around 100 messages a day on > average. ... Nice Welcome message Doug. I'd make it 200 by now, though. It seems our recent traslocation made people less shy... Ciao, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the group
In a message dated 2/9/01 9:24:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Probably just in time, since I think I need a Spotmatic II to go with the screw mounts (do I need to put a smiley in about here?) and maybe a MZ-M as a backup for the Program Plus. >> That's how all addictions start, nibbling at the corners, the seeing or sensing there is something else... "Please oh Lord, heal this man of his affliction (and growing affinity) for things PENTAX; else he go mad with lust...for an MZ-S!" <| :) Suda Mafud, A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OnT: aperture blade question
If you are certain that it's not the oil, then it could be an aging spring. regards, Alan Chan >I'm marking this as On-Topic simply because I'm posting Pentax-related >material on a Friday. Sorry! > >One of my Super-Tak 200/4's arrived today, and the aperture takes forever >to stop down. The blades aren't oily or greasy, but they move >very slowly. I've tried working the ring back and forth, >back and forth, back and forth until my roommate got scared and wanted to >take me out to meet some women, but it didn't help. Any idea what could >be causing this? Is it a simple repair? I've never taken a lens apart >that I could put back together, but I might be willing to risk it on this >one. > >Thanks! > >chris _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: To Tom who has Pentax 100mm f3.5 macro
In a message dated 2/9/01 8:59:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > Hi Todd, I see those all the time, didn't know they went that cheap. Got any shots to share taken with one? >> Dan, whoever made SEARS lenses did a good job. Cosina made a lot of rebadged lenses. I have a Cosina made 70-200, "A" F/4 (constant) TOU-FIVE STAR lens I bought attached to a camera from the proverbial "desperate" guy outside a camera shop. The story is of no interest but the Cosina made lens is sharp and crisp with no color abberations: makes you think of PENTAX or TAKAMUR SMC. Slap it on a PENTAX programmed body and it made a hellaciuos birthday party, get the candid shot lens! I *do* know Cosina made a Sears badged twin of my TOU FIVE STAR. So SEARS/TOU FIVE STAR badges may in fact be COSINA lenses. Suda Mafud, A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Pentax LZ-A?
The shutter of FM2 was upgraded to 1/250 synch speed quite early. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 10. helmikuuta 2001 5:54 Aihe: Re: Pentax LZ-A? >Rob wrote: > >> My old FM2 had flash sync at 1/250th, its never been lower in the FM2x >> models AFAIK > > >The FM2 had a sync speed of 1/200th but it had a mechanical shutter with no >AE. The FE2 had a sync speed of 1/250th and it had AE, but the shutter >didn't work without a battery. > >Which is why I said three days ago that the FM3A represents a blending of >the FE2 and FM2. > ><*sigh*> > >--Mike > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What is the 'best' M42 pre-spotmatic camera?
I'm looking to get myself a screw-mount camera, and I find myself rather attracted to the idea of having one with no meter. I like the idea of going out with glass, metal and no batteries, with a simple hand-held meter to get a real feeling for exposure. (I enjoy using hi-tech cameras, and fully plan to get an MZ-S shortly, but I feel I'd like to have something more basic for those for philosophical times). However, I find myself having very little knowledge of anything pre K Mount. Looking at the list on the AOHC page, it seems the 'best' models are the SV/H3v S1a/H1a. However it indicates that their are differences between 'early' and 'late' ones. Is there any way to tell the difference here? What camera should I be looking for? I want something 100% mechanical, no meter, but fairly 'standard' if possible. ie, preferably all the shutter speeds on one dial, 1000th shutter if possible, etc. Also, I currently have no screw-mount lenses. I did buy myself a K-to-screw adapter, but never got a lens to put on it. I've seen the recent discussion, and it sounds like the 55/1.8 and 35/3.5 are nice. Is there a nice lens down around 24 or 20 ? Also something around 100 or 120 ? I hope to find SMC-Tak versions of whatever lenses I decide on, if this makes a difference. Thanks for any suggestions or input. - Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
In a message dated 2/9/01 8:53:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Relatively few premium shutters even today manage a 1/250th sync speed, let alone mechanical ones. >> You did qualify (hedge) your statement but PENTAX made four (4) cameras with 1/250 sync. So PENTAX and other manufacturers *choose* (or not) to make bodies with 1/250 sync. But you knew that. Suda Mafud, A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Nicknames Was: Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
On 10 Feb 2001, at 2:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But...but, the proper name *is* "The UNITED STATES of AMERICA", not > "AMERICA", though we call ourselves "Americans" as opposed to another, less > identifiable name. >From outside you are Americans, you live on the American continent (?) I am an Australian however many refer to our region as Asia, Australasia or the Asia-Pacific. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Photographic Musings While Stuck in Traffic
In a message dated 2/9/01 8:50:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Use a very slow film and, perhaps, a ND or Pol filter, and make a long time exposure of a busy street which would then show no people or traffic, as they'd be moving too fast to register on the film. Some streets or roads would look very strange devoid of people and cars. >> Your whole comment reminded me an extended time exposure of all places Time Square, circa 1870ish. You see nearly nothing except a man sitting in a tall chair having his shoes shined. The horse and buggy traffic we all know existed then, for all intents and purposes, did not manifest themselves in the photo. Suda Mafud, A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT World Press Photo awards
In a message dated 2/9/01 6:13:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Over the years, I have published five different publications. I have always looked for a picture that would stop someone from paging through the magazine and encourage them to read the story. From that standpoint, the face-to-face encounter and the sprinters get my vote. One has impact and you have to find out what it's about. The other gets your attention with style. >> Thanks Ken, we needed that. Suda Mafud, A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
On 9 Feb 2001, at 23:56, Chris Brogden wrote: > The "N" on the back means that it's an FM2n, which has the 1/250 flash > sync. See: > > http://www.picture-perfect.net/fm2review.shtml Thanks Chris, I never knew, maybe someone got a bargain, I sold it for CAD$650 near mint. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Nicknames Was: Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
In a message dated 2/9/01 5:57:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes, quoting: << America is the whole f***ng continent, including us f***ng latinos, like it or not. >> But...but, the proper name *is* "The UNITED STATES of AMERICA", not "AMERICA", though we call ourselves "Americans" as opposed to another, less identifiable name. (But then, Latinos, or at least a lot of them, like to refer to us Americans as "Gringos," even beautiful Black people like me.) Me? A "Gringo**"? Wanna know how that starts my identity crisis shit all over again?-"Damn!" **I spent years in sessions after a Mexican (see: Latino; see: Tejano; see: Mestizo; see: Hispanic) called *me*, beautiful Afri-Arab-American me-a "Gringo", in a tone reminiscent of a man who had just scraped me from under the instep of his nearly worn-out peasant boot. (Can we help it if others insist on shortening our true name?) *North American (Africana) saying: "Dogs and slaves are named by their masters; free men name themselves." Here's a question. Would you *really* want to be own as an "American", considering what scorn you (and others around the world) seem to hold for us? What you'll have to do then, if your care to take the assignment, is go to work on Central and South "Americans" about being so anal about it, as in: "don't get your shorts in a twist about our "nickname*." __ NICKNAME: nickname [1] (noun) [Middle English *nekename* additional name, alteration (resulting from misdivision of an ekename) of ekename, from eke eke, also + name name] First appeared 15th Century 1 : a usu. descriptive name given instead of or in addition to the one belonging to a person, place, or thing. (Get it?) Norte "Americanos", (smirking bastards), (uppity sons-a-bitches), see: (Gringo). see: (Dirty rotten bastards with everything God meant for me). * GRINGO: grin*go (noun), plural gringos [Spanish, alteration of griego Greek, stranger, from Latin Graecus Greek] First appeared 1849 : a foreigner in Spain or Latin America esp. when of English or American origin; broadly : a non-Hispanic person -- often used disparagingly nickname: 2 : a familiar form of a proper name (as of a person or a city) Suda Mafud, Born in America-American member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Group Photo Project
Hi, Do you think we could get Pentax to support a group project of some kind. Maybe something where we took a poem or something and illustrated it. It would help if it was a known favorite poem of a dearly departed person of some international stature. Did Gandhi have any favorites. How about Mao or Sister Theresa? It would be great if the poem talked about images from everyday life and close to home that touched us and showed what parts of our lives make us feel uplifted. Something that celebrated the joys of being alive, both glorious and mundane, and gave each us a chance to show home & family, school & town, fellow workers, clerks & tradesmen, ...well you must have the idea by now. It's an exciting project and I think we should do it. I'd even contribute some shots for free if Pentax would sponsor it. Or if this project is too sweet for Pentax maybe we could go out and photograph all the things that make us feel really bad and depressed about our lives. It could be like an Anton Checkov play...Then Pentax surely wouldn't throw up. It's too bad that most of the poems that famous dead people liked, the nostalgic kind of poems, cloaked pride of place in patriotism, nationalism or the flag to make it acceptable to express these unmanly sentimental feelings. This makes it hard to find an international poetic vehicle, hard to see past mention of a nation and into the expression of more universal feelings. But lucky for us, we are more traveled than any generation before us. Luckily, we see and hear more of the world than any of our ancestors did. We are educated, cultured, sophisticated people of the world. Surely we see past this waving of the flag and into the pride of place and culture that is expressing a common human joy for being alive. Or maybe not... Regards, Bob S. (I offer my pre-apologies to the countrymen of the great writer Anton Checkov. I find his work moving, but reading it casts such a powerful gloom that I must avoid him.) (I figured out by the time I was 13 or 14 that we are one world and one people. We could be from across the tracks or from the 'Evil Empire', but we were all the same, even in 1959. We hold the same aspirations for ourselves, our lives, and our children. We share the same joys in the daily experiences of life. Maybe we need some real space invaders to bring us to our senses. ) (Why would you see my celebration of my life and who I am as something that diminishes you?) (Again, Bob S.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Non-Pentax Non-Metz flash
The long and short of it: I bought the Metz 32-MZ3. Thanks to all in the group for your help in deciding. Maris - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: SV: Non-Pentax Non-Metz flash | Hi | Think I have been writing about Metz flashes more than once. I don't think | other brands are lousy at all! I just find Metz flashes to be very, very | good. My oldest, which I bought in 1981, still works like the first day. The | original Pentax flashes is extreemly well made too. It's a joy just to hold | a AF500 FTZ in your hand. | Jens | | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tokina Lens Woes - The Epilogue
Well, here is the final word...the replacement lens (Tokina 80-200 f/2.8 ATX Pro) got to my house on Friday, about 20 minutes before I had to dash out the door to get to the airport. I had no time to check it out. I popped it into the bag and off I ran. I shot some film with it in Montreal. The new lens licked the problem. I am now happy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT :-) <---NOTE SMILEY (was: Re: Goup Project)
You mean all those people who called me a bloody yank during my two decades
as an expat really were .. I don't think so. Good friends, great
times. I wouldn't trade one microsecond of that journey not even for an LX.
It is a great, interesting world out there. IMO our differences make it so.
Otis Wright
Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
> Actually, Bob, it is an Indian (now there is a misnomer)
> pronunciation of English. During the revolution the British
> used it in a derogatory way. Americans responded by taking it as
> a complement. But, it is almost never meant that way when used
> by anyone other than you New Englanders.
> --Tom
>
> Bob Blakely wrote:
> >
> > I was born a Yankee (Vermont). Thank you. Yankees consider being recognized
> > as a Yankee as a compliment regardless of how it is meant. Yankee was a name
> > given to colonists by the British. It was intended to be derogatory, but we
> > Yankees accepted it and took pride in it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob...
> >
> > Give blood. Play hockey.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:24 PM
> > Subject: OT :-) <---NOTE SMILEY (was: Re: Goup Project)
> >
> > > Albano wrote:
> > >
> > > > USA (United States of...) is a country
> > > > without a name, so they picked up the whole continent name as their
> > name.
> > > > That's
> > > > something I hate about yankees. They think they ARE America. WRONG,
> > WRONG
> > >
> > >
> > > Purely grammatical. "United States" has no relational suffix (i.e., ending
> > > meaning "belonging to"). It's awkward to say "United Statesian." It's long
> > > to say "United States citizen." Hence, Americans. In the United States,
> > the
> > > word "Yankee" only means someone who is from the northeast, or, more
> > > loosely, someone who *isn't* from the south.
> > >
> > > You have (in English) "Argentinean," which is poetic ("argent" relates to
> > > the metal, and color, silver) and mellifluous. What do we have? Nothing.
> > >
> > > And by the way, we Americans from the USA have a simple classification
> > > system that works well for us, and is perfectly in keeping with our
> > > incorrigible alpha-dog mentality. Namely: we are Americans, and you are
> > > South Americans.
> > >
> > > And now, having offended nearly half of the hemisphere, I humbly and
> > rather
> > > speedily
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > --"X"
> > >
> > > ("Who was that masked Xenophobe? And, wasn't that a Pentax around his
> > > neck?")
> >
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Re: Pentax LZ-A?
On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Rob Studdert wrote: > > > My old FM2 had flash sync at 1/250th, its never been lower in the FM2x > > > models AFAIK > > > > The FM2 had a sync speed of 1/200th but it had a mechanical shutter with no > > AE. The FE2 had a sync speed of 1/250th and it had AE, but the shutter > > didn't work without a battery. > > See pics of *my* special 1/250th sync FM2: The "N" on the back means that it's an FM2n, which has the 1/250 flash sync. See: http://www.picture-perfect.net/fm2review.shtml chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT :-) <---NOTE SMILEY (was: Re: Goup Project)
Grew up in Quebec, Vermont and Upstate NY. Regards, Bob... Give blood. Play hockey. - Original Message - From: "Norman Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Re: OT :-) <---NOTE SMILEY (was: Re: Goup Project) > I thought you were a Canuck Bob? > Norm > > Bob Blakely wrote: > > > I was born a Yankee (Vermont). Thank you. Yankees consider being recognized > > as a Yankee as a compliment regardless of how it is meant. Yankee was a name > > given to colonists by the British. It was intended to be derogatory, but we > > Yankees accepted it and took pride in it. > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Welcome to the PDML
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Re: Leatherette on LX
Jose, There's a very good contact cement adhesive out there called Pliobond. It comes from W.J. Ruscoe Co, 483 Kenmore Blvd, Akron, OH 44301. You may be able to find it on the Web. Doug At 9:31 PM -06002/1/01, Jose Rodriguez caused thus to appear: >Hi Everyone, > >I have an LX in excellent cosmetic condition except that a very small >portion of the leatherette on the back cover is coming loose. Nothing >major, but it does bother me. I was wondering if anyone knows what glue >or rubber cement (brand?) repair technicians use to glue it back into >place? > >Thanks! > >-- >Jose R. Rodriguez >[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Screw stuff
William Robb writes: > Just for curiosities sake, what do you M42 screw heads think of > the Super Takumar 35mm f3.5 and the 55mm f1.8? Darn, I only have the bayonet versions of both those lenses so I can't comment :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Photographic Musings While Stuck in Traffic
Ken Archer writes: > I set up a view camera with an exposure of 1/100sec. As I recall, > 10 multiple exposures at 1/1000sec was right on and there was no traffic. You're > on the right track. How did you get a view camera to do 1/1000? I didn't think shutters that fast were available for them, and I don't think focal plane shutters exist for LF (now they'd have a slow sync speed!). Or do you consider 6x7 as being large format? :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
On 9 Feb 2001, at 22:16, Mike Johnston wrote: > Rob wrote: > > > My old FM2 had flash sync at 1/250th, its never been lower in the FM2x > > models AFAIK > > > The FM2 had a sync speed of 1/200th but it had a mechanical shutter with no > AE. The FE2 had a sync speed of 1/250th and it had AE, but the shutter > didn't work without a battery. See pics of *my* special 1/250th sync FM2: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/fs348.jpg http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/fs345.jpg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: To Tom who has Pentax 100mm f3.5 macro
Todd Stanley wrote: > > > I tend to take a lot of cat pictures with this lens due to it's "Macro" > setting (good for tight headshots) and the perfect working distance. The FA 135 focuses awfully close... > > Basically, with all the cheap, third party 135mm's that go for a song on > eBay, you should have no reason to risk a FA 135mm lens in a dicey > situation. Well, my reason is that it is superbly sharp, contrasty and built like a brick (for an AF lens). It may be my favorite lens wide open. I guess I just don't buy the mentality where you buy a lens then baby it... Anyway, I don't think Dr. Routh is planning to take his family to a war zone. Man, I feel compelled to read every post in this thread. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Manfrotto heads, please help!
On 9 Feb 2001, at 17:22, Flavio Minelli wrote: > Thanks all for your help. > > BTW I finally managed to dig up some past comments on the matter where > there actually was some 168-ballhead-bashing and more useful advice. > > I know I'd probably need a 3-way head but that would make things a bit > too heavy... > > I'll try and make up my mind for tomorrow so I'll be able to tell you on > Monday what my choice was. Flavio, If you intend to travel/trek apart from the extra weight of the 3 way heads (even the new Mag) beware that the protruding knobs (not in the case of the Mag head) can be a pain, they catch on things, they make packing more of a pain but it will offer more control over the standard ball head. I have just purchased a 441 for trekking and after consideration I opted for the 308 ball head (I have a spare 029 available). The 055Pro (455) is a great tripod and will give you at least a decade of excellent reliability (assuming that the new 4 position leg locks are as good as the old 055). Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Manfrotto heads, please help!
On 9 Feb 2001, at 9:44, Rob Brigham wrote: > Also make sure you get the spikes for the feet at some stage! I wouldn't recommend them, I had the spiked feet for my 055, ended up *Baying them, their crappy plastic collet fixing led to instability in my experience. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OnT: aperture blade question
I'm marking this as On-Topic simply because I'm posting Pentax-related material on a Friday. Sorry! One of my Super-Tak 200/4's arrived today, and the aperture takes forever to stop down. The blades aren't oily or greasy, but they move very slowly. I've tried working the ring back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until my roommate got scared and wanted to take me out to meet some women, but it didn't help. Any idea what could be causing this? Is it a simple repair? I've never taken a lens apart that I could put back together, but I might be willing to risk it on this one. Thanks! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leatherette on LX
On 1 Feb 2001, at 21:31, Jose Rodriguez wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have an LX in excellent cosmetic condition except that a very small > portion of the leatherette on the back cover is coming loose. Nothing > major, but it does bother me. I was wondering if anyone knows what glue > or rubber cement (brand?) repair technicians use to glue it back into > place? Hi Jose, Sorry for my late reply, my ISP had mail problems and I am getting messages from 1/2/2001 even today. The leatherette on several of the LX that I owned has peeled at the back, it seems that it becomes saturated with skin oils and then the adhesive turns jelly like, not pleasant. Methylated spirits (methyl/ethyl? alcohol) will clean the old adhesive. You can then use a thin sheet of double sided tape (the stuff without foam :-) or a rubber type of contact adhesive. The problem is though that the oils seem to be retained in the leatherette and it will come unstuck again eventually. I have purchased a set of new leatherette panels for the LX, they are available however the replacing the back piece poses a problem. The plastic film memo holder is plastic welded to the metal back, so you have to trash it as well. Maybe the best option is simply to replace the back. You can check my page for further information at: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/lxproblems.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
Argentinian Gauchos don't dance samba. And sip on Mate, not caipirinhas. Jeff - Original Message - From: "Juan J. Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 12:02 AM Subject: Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project > On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Alexandre A. P. Suaide wrote: > > > Yeah, somethime ago I read that people from argentina fells more like > > european people than american. > > Well, isn't Buenos Aires the Paris of South America? :-) > > I just love to remember the gauchos singing the tango, dancing a > samba and sipping caipirinhas. > > But then again, it's been a while since I've left Argentina, my > memories are fading a bit... > > > :-) > > [sorry guys, too many OT messages from me today-going home...] > > -- > - > Juan J. Buhler | FX Animator @ PDI | http://www.crosswinds.net/~jbuhler > - > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Screw stuff
William Robb asks: >Just for curiosities sake, what do you M42 screw heads think of >the Super Takumar 35mm f3.5 and the 55mm f1.8? I think they're the lenses to use. Creamy smooth but sharp images in the way only Pentax can do. The best of any 35mm and 50/55mm to my eye (although the FA35mm f2.0 shot by Gerhard Fischer in the Nov. 2000 PUG http://pug.komkon.org/00nove/index.html looks promising for a scanned image). I use them whenever possible. That said, the 35mm f2.0 and 50mm f1.4 receive a lot of use wide open since I take many pictures indoors without flash and outdoors in the evening under dreary, rainy Oregon skies. The SMC screwmount versions of these two are the same formula. They are significantly better under a specific circumstance. When there is possibility of flare, the Super Taks can wash out colors throughout or in swaths from the light source; aperture artifacts are common when the sun is in the line of sight. The SMC versions eliminate much and sometimes all of this. The 55mm has been mentioned as being less sharp than the 50mm f1.4. The 50mm appears sharper at f2 but at f4 it's a toss-up; no contest after. The award goes to the 55. There has been more than one comment that the 55mm is soft through f5.6 and then becomes sharp at f8. I like shots at f8 on this lens better than shots at f8 on any of my other lenses; but it's not just the sharpness. All lenses are compromises and the 55mm is a pleasing compromise. Mark Rofini - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Juan J. Buhler wrote: > [sorry guys, too many OT messages from me today-going home...] You're never OT on a Friday. *L* chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap zoom wide-angle
Eduardo, are you sending postings in html format? I can't speak for everyone here, but we've just recently been hit with some transmitted viruses on this list, and I for one would certainly appreciate it if you would change your submissions to this list to be plain text? Html is far more liable to be contaminated with a sender's (unknown usually) virus! Thanks for your consideration in this, Dosk - Original Message - From: "Eduardo Carone Costa Júnior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Cheap zoom wide-angle Thank you all for sharing your insights about this topic. You can be sure your thoughts will be taken into consideration when I finally place my order. As a inexperienced amateur I can only be glad for having the possibility some "online" lessons. Eduardo. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Ilford film choice
tv wrote: > True, it just seems Delta 100 is more finicky in that regard. The few > negs I have have highlights that are just tough to print. > More experimentation is needed. Or a different paper. Highlight contrast is built into the printing paper and doesn't usually change much with filter grade. Try a paper with lower highlight contrast and see if your negs don't print better. Try, say, Agfa Multicontrast Classic, which has medium to low contrast in the highlights. Ilford Multigrade IV RC had very low highlight contrast, as does Sterling paper from India. Lots of times, photographers fiddle with development times when what they really need to do is match the film and developer combination to the paper a little better. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
This is where the term "Baja Oklahoma" comes from. Mark "Let's talk about cameras, OK?" Gosdin > Amen. We were an independent republic before being conned > into joining the "union." Gee, I thought you were a rebellious province of Mexico before we took you in. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
Now everyone in the good ol' US of A knows that the only thing that causes Texans to loose sleep is having to play Football / Baseball / Basketball or any other sport against Oklahoma. Oklahomans take it as a right and a privilege to annoy Texans, kind of like the Argentinians and Brazilians. ;-) Mark "No Damned Yankee" Gosdin << Hell, most self-respecting Texans don't even consider themselves "Americans", they are "Texans" first and foremost. >> Amen. We were an independent republic before being conned into joining the "union." Therein lies the source of our fierce regionalism. In fact some of us even consider Oklahomans as yankees. Robert - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LZ-A?
Rob wrote: > My old FM2 had flash sync at 1/250th, its never been lower in the FM2x > models AFAIK The FM2 had a sync speed of 1/200th but it had a mechanical shutter with no AE. The FE2 had a sync speed of 1/250th and it had AE, but the shutter didn't work without a battery. Which is why I said three days ago that the FM3A represents a blending of the FE2 and FM2. <*sigh*> --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Screw stuff
The 35mm f3.5 is my "normal" lens. I like both the field of view and the sharpness. On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: New to the group > > Just for curiosities sake, what do you M42 screw heads think of > the Super Takumar 35mm f3.5 and the 55mm f1.8? > Thanks > William Robb -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #201
Bob wrote: > they insisted that he take a photo of them by the sign that > said 'Photography not permitted in the airport'. He couldn't do it > without batteries, so they made him load up the camera again, take > the picture, then give back the batteries! That's a wonderful story. I once waited two hours in the House Ways and Means committee hearing room for Dick Gephardt to show up, and when he did he just went to the podium to explain to all the nice people who had hired me why he couldn't talk to them that day. My F4 picked that moment to run out of juice, and the other photographers al laughed at me as I frantically changed all those damned batteries trying to get a few shots of Gephardt before he left. I never charged the client. But I took action. Bought a Leica. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
- Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 9, 2001 7:15 PM Subject: Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome > Robb wrote: > > > William Robb wrote: > > > > For me, it needs a bit of > > > > reportage to go along with it. > > > > > > For example? I'm not sure what you're getting at exactly. > > > > > It looks like an image that should have a story to round it out. > > For me, it just isn't strong enough to stand on it's own. For > > the people who new the person being memorialized, it is likely a > > fairly important picture. For me, it needs some sort of caption. > > Bill > > Shel, he simply means some existential(?) stuff like: > > "Phew. Sure glad it wasn't me!" > > "Funny things people put around a cross." > > "Well, what d'ya know? One day you're here, and the next one you're gone." > > "Wonder what fruits those barren trees will carry next year." Well, not quite. My thinking was more towards a dear friend killed by a drunk driver or some such. Of course, my general state of mind is melancholic at best. William Robb > > Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
Unforunately, in the eyes of the Brazilians, we probably rate worse than the Yankees. All because of the meat embargo. Jeff - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project > > - Original Message - > From: "tom" Sent: February 9, 2001 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > THE HOUSE I LIVE IN > > > OR > > > WHAT IS AMERICA TO ME? > > > > Wonder if the Canucks feel that way? > > All the average Canuck knows about this shit is we are not > American, in the coloquial sense of the word. Other than that, > we haven't got a friggin' clue about what we are. We define > ourselves by what we are not. > Snowfield Willie > > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
I like the last one! - Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome > Robb wrote: > > > William Robb wrote: > > > > For me, it needs a bit of > > > > reportage to go along with it. > > > > > > For example? I'm not sure what you're getting at exactly. > > > > > It looks like an image that should have a story to round it out. > > For me, it just isn't strong enough to stand on it's own. For > > the people who new the person being memorialized, it is likely a > > fairly important picture. For me, it needs some sort of caption. > > Bill > > Shel, he simply means some existential(?) stuff like: > > "Phew. Sure glad it wasn't me!" > > "Funny things people put around a cross." > > "Well, what d'ya know? One day you're here, and the next one you're gone." > > "Wonder what fruits those barren trees will carry next year." > > Lasse > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Way OT: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
Re; previous message(s) to Dosk: > Dosk, the truth is out there. > > The main problem is that Microsoft alone has extended HTML with tags > like IFRAME, which allow automated saving and execution of other code, > eg. from attachments. Yes. But as in most cases, the truth is multi-faceted. I still feel that saying one can get a virus by simply opening an email is an over-simplification of a partial truth. What is meant by that statement? Should a person then never open an email, never preview one, never then open an attachment? Listen, one cannot get a virus from simply opening a plain text email in O/E. (So far, at least) it is absolutely impossible, and one should not scare people into believing otherwise! Plain text code cannot initiate a virus! Period! (See url link below) http://www.txla.org/pubs/tlj75_2/virus.html Attachments, as I said before, are another thing and all such should always be screened by a good anti virus program. But to never allow any of these attachments to load via your mail program is, IMO, a sorry thing. One misses out on a good deal of computer fun that way, and it gives the virus creators exactly the creepy victory they are looking for! Now, html code is different from plain text. And John Francis did us all a favor on this list when he gave us his informative link. (Repeated here, below.) There is good information in this link on how to set up your IE browser (and also OE) so as not to blindly accept active scripting, active-x; sneaky stuff that may be imbedded in the html code. Although this is a rarer way of transmitting viruses (it's a much harder thing to do, for more doubtful results, for one thing) it does happen and should be protected against. (This is also why people get mad when someone transmits an email message to them in html, when it is just so much safer and easier to do it in plain text!) This is John Francis's supplied link, for those who may have missed it... http://antivirus.about.com/compute/antivirus/library/weekly/aa121500a.htm This site, while containing lots of good info and links, I feel is still a bit over dramatic about things though. (There are software selling sponsors on this page looking to make a buck, after all...) One of the "open-an-email-get-infected" viruses (VB-Forgotten) they describe requires an OE user to have almost all of his IE browser and OE mail settings to be set to no security options at all for it to work. This email virus even asks the potential victim to first go into his browser settings and change them this way, then re-open the email. (Which by the way has the typical spammer subject line of "Financial Security" or some such garbage.) IMO, anyone falling for this crap is really reaching to become a victim... Another virus described is the "Kak" virus, which is a more interesting one. True, it is transmitted via an email signature file, but again it is embedded in html (not text) code, and again it requires the potential victim to have his security settings in his browser and email program set on low, or none! BTW, the About.com site John Francis gave us also has links to all the Microsoft patches that eliminate the need for fearing these security holes, even if one does not have their own IE security settings set on "high". To be really safe, one should download and apply these MS patches and then also set one's IE settings onto "high". Between doing these things, and then pre-screening all attachments onto disk prior to opening, one need have no fear (as of yet, of course) in opening email and attachments via IE and O/E 5.0... See, I said all of that and not one mention of "paranoid" Apologies to all, (and especially John Francis,) if my previous postings where too abrupt. It's been a rough week. Dosk (Skip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT :-) <---NOTE SMILEY (was: Re: Goup Project)
Actually, Bob, it is an Indian (now there is a misnomer)
pronunciation of English. During the revolution the British
used it in a derogatory way. Americans responded by taking it as
a complement. But, it is almost never meant that way when used
by anyone other than you New Englanders.
--Tom
Bob Blakely wrote:
>
> I was born a Yankee (Vermont). Thank you. Yankees consider being recognized
> as a Yankee as a compliment regardless of how it is meant. Yankee was a name
> given to colonists by the British. It was intended to be derogatory, but we
> Yankees accepted it and took pride in it.
>
> Regards,
> Bob...
>
> Give blood. Play hockey.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:24 PM
> Subject: OT :-) <---NOTE SMILEY (was: Re: Goup Project)
>
> > Albano wrote:
> >
> > > USA (United States of...) is a country
> > > without a name, so they picked up the whole continent name as their
> name.
> > > That's
> > > something I hate about yankees. They think they ARE America. WRONG,
> WRONG
> >
> >
> > Purely grammatical. "United States" has no relational suffix (i.e., ending
> > meaning "belonging to"). It's awkward to say "United Statesian." It's long
> > to say "United States citizen." Hence, Americans. In the United States,
> the
> > word "Yankee" only means someone who is from the northeast, or, more
> > loosely, someone who *isn't* from the south.
> >
> > You have (in English) "Argentinean," which is poetic ("argent" relates to
> > the metal, and color, silver) and mellifluous. What do we have? Nothing.
> >
> > And by the way, we Americans from the USA have a simple classification
> > system that works well for us, and is perfectly in keeping with our
> > incorrigible alpha-dog mentality. Namely: we are Americans, and you are
> > South Americans.
> >
> > And now, having offended nearly half of the hemisphere, I humbly and
> rather
> > speedily
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > --"X"
> >
> > ("Who was that masked Xenophobe? And, wasn't that a Pentax around his
> > neck?")
>
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Re: OT: Ilford film choice
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Maybe I can learn something from your problems. At what EI do > you expose Delta 100, and under what lighting conditions? What > developer have you used? Time/temp/agitation? I shot these back before I had a darkroom or was doing my own processing, so these are all (3 rolls?) at EI 100, souped in TMAX, which is what my lab used for everything. The *one* beautiful neg I was talking about was shot in diffuse lighting conditions, and this is the neg that got me thinking I should try and work with this stuff. Last week I shot a 'test' roll - basically pictures of my cat (just about perfectly 18% gray), heavily backlit. I shot at 100, souped in FX39 at 1:19 for 16.5 minutes. 1:19 is a fairly dilute for FX-39, so I was hoping for a little compensation. The backlit areas were pretty well blown out...there's a bit of detail, but maybe beyond my abilities to print. Paterson gives 2 times for development for each film, one for a .57 curve, one for .7. 16.5 minutes is about in-between. I'll probably dial it down to 14 minutes next time. I also plan to try XTOL...Aaron has been spazzing about Studional, so I may try that too, since it seems to be pretty versatile. Some people (Mike? ;) ) may think all this fiddling around is futile, but I find it to be kind of fun. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
Actually calling us Yankees, is about the same as us calling you greasers. Not something you want to do face to face. --Tom "Alexandre A. P. Suaide" wrote: > > Hello > > The term yankee in Brazil is related to all North American > people. This is not a official portuguese word but as many > north american people think that the brazilian capital is > buenos Aires, many brazilian people think that yankee means > north american citizen The word yankee has this mean in > Brazil since the world war II. In the war there were some > North American Military bases in the NorthEast of Brazil and > some stupid North American military person (we used to say > in Brazil that military people does not have brain) said > the "the yankees are coming to stop the nazists in the > south atlantic...". So blame yourselves for the uncorrected > terminology > > Actually, I moved from Brazil to USA one year ago and I like > to live here as much as I like to live in Brazil. There are > many differences but the people is as kind as in Brazil and > the lifestyle is almost the same > > Alex > > Robert Harris wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > [Most of diatribe snipped and sent to the rubbish bin] > > > > > That's > > > something I hate about yankees. > > > > Is that all? Gee, some people find lots more. > > > > But I suggest that you be a little more careful in your choice of words > > when lecturing us about geographically correct terminology. Most > > (North) Americans do not view themselves as Yankees despite the sloppy > > usa of the term in other countries. As the Oxford English Dictionary > > notes, the US usage is generally: > > > > U.S. A nickname for a native or inhabitant of New England, > > or, more widely, of the northern States generally; during > > the War of Secession applied by the Confederates to the > > soldiers of the Federal army. > > > > So some of us would view being called a Yankee as a serious insult, > > folks from our Southern states in particular, since many still remember > > that war with some bitterness. Non-southerners who do not view > > themselves as Yankees -- most of us, as I said -- will not be insulted, > > just amused. > > > > Bob, A non-Yankee from New York > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > -- > --- > Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Physics Department > University of Sao Paulo - BrazilPhone: 1-313-577-5419 > Wayne State University - MI -USAICQ number: 78139605 > --- > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
- Original Message - From: "tom" Sent: February 9, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > THE HOUSE I LIVE IN > > OR > > WHAT IS AMERICA TO ME? > > Wonder if the Canucks feel that way? All the average Canuck knows about this shit is we are not American, in the coloquial sense of the word. Other than that, we haven't got a friggin' clue about what we are. We define ourselves by what we are not. Snowfield Willie > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Screw stuff
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: New to the group > Toothless Chris wrote: > > > Ah, but I've got the best of both worlds: > > a nice, clean Super-Takumar 35/2 that arrived > > today. :) > > Good for you. I think you're gonna like that lens. Just for curiosities sake, what do you M42 screw heads think of the Super Takumar 35mm f3.5 and the 55mm f1.8? Thanks William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap zoom wide-angle
Thank you all for sharing your insights about this topic. You can be sure your thoughts will be taken into consideration when I finally place my order. As a inexperienced amateur I can only be glad for having the possibility some "online" lessons. Eduardo.
Re: Rep here from Ulan Bator Speaking to you...
> > Have you heard from our representative in Ulan Bator yet? That's actual where me is from. And you guys are pissing me and compatriots offoff. Keep this large BS up and we will never send you MZ5-N, MX-S, freaking new MZ-S, or any of large hidden stockpiled film that saving against digital takeover... We will then be new Time/Life/People! We will be new Magum! We will be the only freaking photographers you will have see!! You have been varned! Keep your big Yunkeee mouthz shut!! Dosku (Hey you fellows don't tell me such guys really don know people from S.A. be Americans too? For shame boyz shame!!) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Photographic Musings While Stuck in Traffic
Hi Shel, >Use a very slow film and, perhaps, a ND or Pol filter, and make >a long time exposure of a busy street which would then show no >people or traffic, as they'd be moving too fast to register on >the film. Some streets or roads would look very strange devoid >of people and cars. I've actually seen a street photo done this way before, though I didn't really grasp the mechanics at the time. I've seen pictures of perfectly flat water at seashores that I think must've been done this way, come to think of it. >What other unusual photo ideas can you come up with? A long the ideas of your drawing with light idea, you could take an extremely fine fiber optic strand, run one end through the center of a weight and hook the other to a ligh-tight light source; then turn the strand and the weight into a pendulum; stick some sheet film under it; send the weight swinging and fire up the light source. If you used something with colored LEDs or bulbs as your light source, you could have multiple colors in your light drawing. If you could get hold of some glow in the dark paint and an appropriate speed film, take roly-polys and let them make your drawing for you. Use some of your .44 rounds as flash bulbs. Or take a series of shots of your neighbors and neighborhood (photographic, of course) through the barrel of your .44--something like a big pinhole camera, or is that even possible? Maybe if you could get hold of an endoscope it would work? Could you lay some film on the screen of a laptop and use that to make a big blurry contact negative or transparency? Would it work with a tv or monitor screen? What about taking a big negative and making a contact print by laying it on top of a laptop screen? You might be able to make some kind of double image that way. Or maybe make a contact print using a pinhole camera as the light source? Too goofy, not unusual enough? Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] >-- >Shel Belinkoff >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Canon fast lenses (was: Re[2]: AdaptAll?)
On 9 Feb 2001, at 18:16, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: > Rob brings up the "other half" of the DOF phenomenon, here. > Most folks are familiar w/ the effect of aperture on DOF, as > it is easily seen and rather obvious. Many fail to realize > the significance of the focus distance in the overall scheme, > though. Basicly - as the focus distance diminishes, so does > the DOF - which is the base cause of such extremely thin fields > of focus in macro photography, even at tightest apertures. Absolutely, the SMCPA*200f4 macro at minimum focus distance and f32 provides a startling 10mm (assuming 200mm FL which we know it is not at minimum focus distance which is 55mm corresponding with 1:1 which actually works out to an effective 275mm FL?) Another factor re DOF which is most often overlooked is that the overall lens sharpness at the plane of focus will effect the viewers perception of DOF ie if the lens is strikingly sharp at the FP then the blurred areas will be so much more apparent whereas a soft lens will be soft a the FP too. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Way OT: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
Re; previous message(s) to Dosk: > Dosk, the truth is out there. > > The main problem is that Microsoft alone has extended HTML with tags > like IFRAME, which allow automated saving and execution of other code, > eg. from attachments. Yes. But as in most cases, the truth is multi-faceted. I still feel that saying one can get a virus by simply opening an email is an over-simplification of a partial truth. What is meant by that statement? Should a person then never open an email, never preview one, never then open an attachment? Listen, one cannot get a virus from simply opening a plain text email in O/E. (So far, at least) it is absolutely impossible, and one should not scare people into believing otherwise! Plain text code cannot initiate a virus! Period! (See url link below) http://www.txla.org/pubs/tlj75_2/virus.html Attachments, as I said before, are another thing and all such should always be screened by a good anti virus program. But to never allow any of these attachments to load via your mail program is, IMO, a sorry thing. One misses out on a good deal of computer fun that way, and it gives the virus creators exactly the creepy victory they are looking for! Now, html code is different from plain text. And John Francis did us all a favor on this list when he gave us his informative link. (Repeated here, below.) There is good information in this link on how to set up your IE browser (and also OE) so as not to blindly accept active scripting, active-x; sneaky stuff that may be imbedded in the html code. Although this is a rarer way of transmitting viruses (it's a much harder thing to do, for more doubtful results, for one thing) it does happen and should be protected against. (This is also why people get mad when someone transmits an email message to them in html, when it is just so much safer and easier to do it in plain text!) This is John Francis's supplied link, for those who may have missed it... http://antivirus.about.com/compute/antivirus/library/weekly/aa121500a.htm This site, while containing lots of good info and links, I feel is still a bit over dramatic about things though. (There are software selling sponsors on this page looking to make a buck, after all...) One of the "open-an-email-get-infected" viruses (VB-Forgotten) they describe requires an OE user to have almost all of his IE browser and OE mail settings to be set to no security options at all for it to work. This email virus even asks the potential victim to first go into his browser settings and change them this way, then re-open the email. (Which by the way has the typical spammer subject line of "Financial Security" or some such garbage.) IMO, anyone falling for this crap is really reaching to become a victim... Another virus described is the "Kak" virus, which is a more interesting one. True, it is transmitted via an email signature file, but again it is embedded in html (not text) code, and again it requires the potential victim to have his security settings in his browser and email program set on low, or none! BTW, the About.com site John Francis gave us also has links to all the Microsoft patches that eliminate the need for fearing these security holes, even if one does not have their own IE security settings set on "high". To be really safe, one should download and apply these MS patches and then also set one's IE settings onto "high". Between doing these things, and then pre-screening all attachments onto disk prior to opening, one need have no fear (as of yet, of course) in opening email and attachments via IE and O/E 5.0... See, I said all of that and not one mention of "paranoid" Apologies to all, (and especially John Francis,) if my previous postings where too abrupt. It's been a rough week. Dosk (Skip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the group
Toothless Chris wrote: > Ah, but I've got the best of both worlds: > a nice, clean Super-Takumar 35/2 that arrived > today. :) Good for you. I think you're gonna like that lens. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll shoot b&w until I die. There will always be film, paper, and chemicals somewhere, and I don't mean that sissy C41 s#!& either! - rec.photo.darkroom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Way OT: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
Re; previous message(s) to Dosk: > Dosk, the truth is out there. > > The main problem is that Microsoft alone has extended HTML with tags > like IFRAME, which allow automated saving and execution of other code, > eg. from attachments. Yes. But as in most cases, the truth is multi-faceted. I still feel that saying one can get a virus by simply opening an email is an over-simplification of a partial truth. What is meant by that statement? Should a person then never open an email, never preview one, never then open an attachment? Listen, one cannot get a virus from simply opening a plain text email in O/E. (So far, at least) it is absolutely impossible, and one should not scare people into believing otherwise! Plain text code cannot initiate a virus! Period! (See url link below) http://www.txla.org/pubs/tlj75_2/virus.html Attachments, as I said before, are another thing and all such should always be screened by a good anti virus program. But to never allow any of these attachments to load via your mail program is, IMO, a sorry thing. One misses out on a good deal of computer fun that way, and it gives the virus creators exactly the creepy victory they are looking for! Now, html code is different from plain text. And John Francis did us all a favor on this list when he gave us his informative link. (Repeated here, below.) There is good information in this link on how to set up your IE browser (and also OE) so as not to blindly accept active scripting, active-x; sneaky stuff that may be imbedded in the html code. Although this is a rarer way of transmitting viruses (it's a much harder thing to do, for more doubtful results, for one thing) it does happen and should be protected against. (This is also why people get mad when someone transmits an email message to them in html, when it is just so much safer and easier to do it in plain text!) This is John Francis's supplied link, for those who may have missed it... http://antivirus.about.com/compute/antivirus/library/weekly/aa121500a.htm This site, while containing lots of good info and links, I feel is still a bit over dramatic about things though. (There are software selling sponsors on this page looking to make a buck, after all...) One of the "open-an-email-get-infected" viruses (VB-Forgotten) they describe requires an OE user to have almost all of his IE browser and OE mail settings to be set to no security options at all for it to work. This email virus even asks the potential victim to first go into his browser settings and change them this way, then re-open the email. (Which by the way has the typical spammer subject line of "Financial Security" or some such garbage.) IMO, anyone falling for this crap is really reaching to become a victim... Another virus described is the "Kak" virus, which is a more interesting one. True, it is transmitted via an email signature file, but again it is embedded in html (not text) code, and again it requires the potential victim to have his security settings in his browser and email program set on low, or none! BTW, the About.com site John Francis gave us also has links to all the Microsoft patches that eliminate the need for fearing these security holes, even if one does not have their own IE security settings set on "high". To be really safe, one should download and apply these MS patches and then also set one's IE settings onto "high". Between doing these things, and then pre-screening all attachments onto disk prior to opening, one need have no fear (as of yet, of course) in opening email and attachments via IE and O/E 5.0... See, I said all of that and not one mention of "paranoid" Apologies to all, (and especially John Francis,) if my previous postings where too abrupt. It's been a rough week. Dosk (Skip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Photographic Musings While Stuck in Traffic
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > What other unusual photo ideas can you come up with? "Using this hidden surveillance camera with a 400mm lens, we can see one 'Shel Belinkoff' creeping furtively out of a Walmart photo lab, clutching his plastic-sleeved negatives in one hand and the latest edition of "The Fast-food Approach to Darkroom Work" in the other." Now *that* would be a shot. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the group
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, tom wrote: > I'm sure someone around here has a nice Spotmatic for you too. Also, > I've got a sweet M 35/2... Ah, but I've got the best of both worlds: a nice, clean Super-Takumar 35/2 that arrived today. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Photographic Musings While Stuck in Traffic
That brings back memories. Years and years ago when I first started in photography I had to take a picture of a store front for an advertising client. To get the sun right, it had to be shot in the afternoon in the middle of rush hour. I set up a view camera with an exposure of 1/100sec. As I recall, 10 multiple exposures at 1/1000sec was right on and there was no traffic. You're on the right track. On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, you wrote: > The things one thinks about while stuck in traffic: > Use a very slow film and, perhaps, a ND or Pol filter, and make > a long time exposure of a busy street which would then show no > people or traffic, as they'd be moving too fast to register on > the film. Some streets or roads would look very strange devoid > of people and cars. > > What other unusual photo ideas can you come up with? > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Way OT: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
Re; previous message(s) to Dosk: > Dosk, the truth is out there. > > The main problem is that Microsoft alone has extended HTML with tags > like IFRAME, which allow automated saving and execution of other code, > eg. from attachments. Yes. But as in most cases, the truth is multi-faceted. I still feel that saying one can get a virus by simply opening an email is an over-simplification of a partial truth. What is meant by that statement? Should a person then never open an email, never preview one, never then open an attachment? Listen, one cannot get a virus from simply opening a plain text email in O/E. (So far, at least) it is absolutely impossible, and one should not scare people into believing otherwise! Plain text code cannot initiate a virus! Period! (See url link below) http://www.txla.org/pubs/tlj75_2/virus.html Attachments, as I said before, are another thing and all such should always be screened by a good anti virus program. But to never allow any of these attachments to load via your mail program is, IMO, a sorry thing. One misses out on a good deal of computer fun that way, and it gives the virus creators exactly the creepy victory they are looking for! Now, html code is different from plain text. And John Francis did us all a favor on this list when he gave us his informative link. (Repeated here, below.) There is good information in this link on how to set up your IE browser (and also OE) so as not to blindly accept active scripting, active-x; sneaky stuff that may be imbedded in the html code. Although this is a rarer way of transmitting viruses (it's a much harder thing to do, for more doubtful results, for one thing) it does happen and should be protected against. (This is also why people get mad when someone transmits an email message to them in html, when it is just so much safer and easier to do it in plain text!) This is John Francis's supplied link, for those who may have missed it... http://antivirus.about.com/compute/antivirus/library/weekly/aa121500a.htm This site, while containing lots of good info and links, I feel is still a bit over dramatic about things though. (There are software selling sponsors on this page looking to make a buck, after all...) One of the "open-an-email-get-infected" viruses (VB-Forgotten) they describe requires an OE user to have almost all of his IE browser and OE mail settings to be set to no security options at all for it to work. This email virus even asks the potential victim to first go into his browser settings and change them this way, then re-open the email. (Which by the way has the typical spammer subject line of "Financial Security" or some such garbage.) IMO, anyone falling for this crap is really reaching to become a victim... Another virus described is the "Kak" virus, which is a more interesting one. True, it is transmitted via an email signature file, but again it is embedded in html (not text) code, and again it requires the potential victim to have his security settings in his browser and email program set on low, or none! BTW, the About.com site John Francis gave us also has links to all the Microsoft patches that eliminate the need for fearing these security holes, even if one does not have their own IE security settings set on "high". To be really safe, one should download and apply these MS patches and then also set one's IE settings onto "high". Between doing these things, and then pre-screening all attachments onto disk prior to opening, one need have no fear (as of yet, of course) in opening email and attachments via IE and O/E 5.0... See, I said all of that and not one mention of "paranoid" Apologies to all, (and especially John Francis,) if my previous postings where too abrupt. It's been a rough week. Dosk (Skip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
On 9 Feb 2001, at 18:36, William Robb wrote: > It looks like an image that should have a story to round it out. > For me, it just isn't strong enough to stand on it's own. For > the people who new the person being memorialized, it is likely a > fairly important picture. For me, it needs some sort of caption. Bill, The link was just a URL to a JPG, unless the text was imbedded in the JPG we aren't going to see it :-) The scan to me (from a totally technical perspective) was a bit too dark overall, at a gamma of 1.45 the green in the grass becomes visible as does the red colour in the background trees, however there is still a distinct lack of saturation. White and black points are OK though. See the image with adjusted gamma and a fraction more saturation at: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geroc/roadside32modbyRGS.jpg I hope you don't mind Shel. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Ilford film choice
tom wrote: > True, it just seems Delta 100 is > more finicky in that regard. The few > negs I have have highlights that are > just tough to print. Maybe I can learn something from your problems. At what EI do you expose Delta 100, and under what lighting conditions? What developer have you used? Time/temp/agitation? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll shoot b&w until I die. There will always be film, paper, and chemicals somewhere, and I don't mean that sissy C41 s#!& either! - rec.photo.darkroom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: JS Cookies Viruses etc (was HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
On 9 Feb 2001, at 19:18, Ken Archer wrote: > If you really want to feel secure, get rid of Winbloze and use Linux or one of > the Unix operating systems. As to the security of Linux or Unix, just consider > this: traditionally they've used Unix to guard harems. Problem is I want my OS transparent, I use Linux for some tasks but I get my OS Geek friends to set them up for me, I ain't got a few years spare to learn the OS (Linux GUIs are for wimps, so I hear), I want all my spare (read non-photographic time) available for application use and web development :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the group
On 9 Feb 2001, at 19:19, Dave Maki wrote: >...Pentax A 28mm f2.8 and bought it. I tried B/W film again. I tried a > few different brands and speeds of print film. Then came the 2x > teleconverter. Then a couple of screwmount lenses (135mm and 28-80zoom) > and the K-mount adaptor. Then a couple of books. Then I signed up for > a Photography course. Then I started comparing the prices from the > online stores. Then this e-mail group and I found out I could get > "enabled", if I asked for it. Probably just in time, since I think I > need a Spotmatic II to go with the screw mounts (do I need to put a > smiley in about here?) and maybe a MZ-M as a backup for the Program > Plus. Woa Dave, sound like you got it bad, don't know of anyone who has been cured yet, sorry :-) Good to have you on board, this is a great list (much better than most of the other major brand lists IMHO) if you got 2cents worth let us know. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Canon fast lenses (was: Re[2]: AdaptAll?)
on shallow DOF, Rob wrote: > In any case I use a 50f1 lens regularly and yes it has a limited DOF, > assuming a CoC of 0.033mm it provides about 25mm at its maximum > aperture and minimum focus distance of 1m but hey I have more problems > with my Pentax 50f1.2 at its minimum focus of 0.45m, DOF at f1.2 is a > meagre 5.7mm. Rob brings up the "other half" of the DOF phenomenon, here. Most folks are familiar w/ the effect of aperture on DOF, as it is easily seen and rather obvious. Many fail to realize the significance of the focus distance in the overall scheme, though. Basicly - as the focus distance diminishes, so does the DOF - which is the base cause of such extremely thin fields of focus in macro photography, even at tightest apertures. Even wide open, a fast long telephoto focused at infinity or thereabouts will have a quite wide field of focus. It is the fascination w/ close focusing a long telephoto that results in so many "thin field of focus/bokeh'ed background" images which are seemingly the most desired type. (I like these sort of shots as much as the next fellow, but haven't really applied myself to taking many - my fastest tele is the old 300mm f4, I could put a short tube on it to bring it in close enough to go wild w/ the background if a suitable subject would show itself, I suppose.) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: JS Cookies Viruses etc (was HC-B Chafes Over Photographs of His Well-Guarded Face
If you really want to feel secure, get rid of Winbloze and use Linux or one of the Unix operating systems. As to the security of Linux or Unix, just consider this: traditionally they've used Unix to guard harems. On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, you wrote: > On 8 Feb 2001, at 20:12, Chris Brogden wrote: > In my seven years of being active on the web I have only been infected by > Macro viruses imbedded in MicroSloth documents, I have a collection of > viruses (or what I think are) in a quarantine area on my server which I might > dissect one day but I still haven't been got. And I don't use any stinkeen > Virus Protection (which from what I have experienced are often more invasive > than the viruses they purport to protect the user from). > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Ilford film choice
Hi Tom Sorry - I should have said: .over exposure reduces contrast. Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Ilford film choice
Jens Bladt wrote: > > Hi Tom > About the highlights. The thumb rule (that you probably already know) is, > that the higlights are controled by developing the film. The shadows by the > exposure. True, it just seems Delta 100 is more finicky in that regard. The few negs I have have highlights that are just tough to print. More experimentation is needed. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New to the group
Dave Maki wrote: > > Hello PDML. Hi Dave, welcome aboard. > It has been a pleasure reading the mail so far. I'm from Canada, I > hope I didn't offend anyone yet ;-) . No, we're all just Americans on this side of the world, so you should fit right in. I'm sure someone around here has a nice Spotmatic for you too. Also, I've got a sweet M 35/2... tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: To Tom who has Pentax 100mm f3.5 macro
Why not get a second 135mm lens? On eBay you can pick up a Sears branded one for ~$20, which is surprisenly good, and you won't have to worry about damaging/losing it. As for the 100mm Macro, I agree with Tom - Good optics, cheesy build. It is usuable as a 100mm Telephoto too, and seems reasonably sharp in the non-macro ranges. But not very fast at F3.5. I have not compared it to a FA 50mm F1.7 + 1.7x TC, as I have neither, but keep in mind that that this combo will be shorter at 85mm, but faster at about F2.8 Todd At 10:56 AM 2/9/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Tom! You replied before on 22nd January to my enquiry that you have the above lens. Optical performance is good but mechanically poor. Can you use it as a ordinary telephoto lens? Did you by chance compare it's performance with 50mm f1.7 plus 2X converter? With thanks. > >The reason for this odd request that I do not want computer & photography equipments to take over the house. I alraedy have 4 desk top computers and five camera bags. These gadgets like alien sneak into your house. I have new FA 35 mm f2.0, FA 50mm 1.7 and FA 135 2.8 lens plus Tamron seven element 2x converter and two camera bodies. Pentax recently stopped production of 135 mm lens. I do not want to damage 135 mm lens as I need it absolutely to photograph my 8 year old daughter dancing in school auditorium. My initial plan was to travel with FA 35 mm & FA135 lens. Now I am looking for alternative to 135 mm lens. Sorry for such a long posting. >__ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[3]: Pentax LZ-A?
Hi, Mike Johnston wrote: > Bob wrote: >> Finally, on a strictly logical basis, the analogy between film and >> batteries doesn't work since (at least until the advent of digicams) >> film is a sine qua non of photography, whereas batteries aren't. > Bob, > I was with you up till this point. My analogy wasn't meant to be > thoroughgoing. The point was merely that if you want to do photography, > there are some things you need to remember to bring along: a camera, a lens, > some film. If one can remember these things, surely one can remember extra > batteries. > I certainly agree that you are one who MIGHT legitimately need all-manual > cameras; yet you yourself used battery-using cameras in those remote > locations. And when you replaced your stolen gear, you again bought > battery-dependent cameras. > I'm not saying they're not nice to have, or that they don't lend peace of > mind, but, tell me, who really DOES really need all-mechanical cameras, if > you don't? > --Mike > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Cheers, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome > William Robb wrote: > > > For me, it needs a bit of > > reportage to go along with it. > > For example? I'm not sure what you're getting at exactly. > It looks like an image that should have a story to round it out. For me, it just isn't strong enough to stand on it's own. For the people who new the person being memorialized, it is likely a fairly important picture. For me, it needs some sort of caption. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Pentax LZ-A?
Bob wrote: > Finally, on a strictly logical basis, the analogy between film and > batteries doesn't work since (at least until the advent of digicams) > film is a sine qua non of photography, whereas batteries aren't. Bob, I was with you up till this point. My analogy wasn't meant to be thoroughgoing. The point was merely that if you want to do photography, there are some things you need to remember to bring along: a camera, a lens, some film. If one can remember these things, surely one can remember extra batteries. I certainly agree that you are one who MIGHT legitimately need all-manual cameras; yet you yourself used battery-using cameras in those remote locations. And when you replaced your stolen gear, you again bought battery-dependent cameras. I'm not saying they're not nice to have, or that they don't lend peace of mind, but, tell me, who really DOES really need all-mechanical cameras, if you don't? --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:08:18 -0800, Steve Larson wrote: > That would be me. It could be B.S., I don`t know. I heard it on news radio >KCBS on the "World News Roundup" at the top of each hour about 2 weeks >or a month ago. Myself, I`m not paranoid of viruses. If a virus wiped out >a hard drive, oh well, reformat and reload an OS, computers are always >faster after a clean install anyway. It is true. Some are written as Visual Basic Scripts and included within the email. With those types all you have to do to enact it is, (1), have VB scripting turned on, and (2), use a "brain-dead" email client like Outlook Express. With some of them, just using the "Preview Pane" is enough to lanuch them. Some people have _way_ too much time on their hands.. Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > It would be nice to leave patriotism in, in the best sense. > Perhaps a theme to make the finest possible statement about > one's country and people? Might be good learning for all of use. > > Collin Well, we know what Samuel Johnson (& Ambrose Pierce) had to say about patriotism :-) Actually, I agree with Collin - the best interpretation of patriotism is a good, challenging theme. The trouble most people have had is that the proposed project didn't pick a particularly sensitive vehicle for expressing the pride many Americans have in their country. It's all too easy to read that verse as a dismissive put-down of other countries. The virtues listed are not uniquely American, but you'd never know it by reading those lines. As a matter of fact citizens of several other countries propably feel that their particular nation does a better job with some of them than does the USA, so seeing them lauded as American strengths is provocative. How about illustrating something by Woodie Guthrie instead? -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Even odder. Communicatar 4.08 handles it just fine. I don't have IE to compare it too. Todd At 09:04 AM 2/9/01 -0500, you wrote: >To further complicate things, I just clicked on the link >in Navigator here at the museum, and image shows the >broken icon. Nada. But it =does= show up in Explorer. > >Oh, and this is on a Win98 box too, Communicator 4.72. > > > >Doug > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: G(r)oup Project
I live off Culebra and outside 410. Are we close? On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, you wrote: > Welcome to the list Ken. The language is English, but the group is > international. A very nice bunch of people, too. > > Dan Scott (northwest side of San Antonio) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT :-) <---NOTE SMILEY (was: Re: Goup Project)
Albano wrote:
> USA (United States of...) is a country
> without a name, so they picked up the whole continent name as their name.
> That's
> something I hate about yankees. They think they ARE America. WRONG, WRONG
Purely grammatical. "United States" has no relational suffix (i.e., ending
meaning "belonging to"). It's awkward to say "United Statesian." It's long
to say "United States citizen." Hence, Americans. In the United States, the
word "Yankee" only means someone who is from the northeast, or, more
loosely, someone who *isn't* from the south.
You have (in English) "Argentinean," which is poetic ("argent" relates to
the metal, and color, silver) and mellifluous. What do we have? Nothing.
And by the way, we Americans from the USA have a simple classification
system that works well for us, and is perfectly in keeping with our
incorrigible alpha-dog mentality. Namely: we are Americans, and you are
South Americans.
And now, having offended nearly half of the hemisphere, I humbly and rather
speedily
Sincerely,
--"X"
("Who was that masked Xenophobe? And, wasn't that a Pentax around his
neck?")
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Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Amen. We were an independent republic before being conned into joining the > "union." Gee, I thought you were a rebellious province of Mexico before we took you in. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Virus Control re Outlook Express...
Skip wrote: > Someone has mentioned here on this list that one can get a virus (or worm, > or trojan) just by opening e-mail. This is, I believe, one of the many > unfounded, slightly paranoid, rumors about viruses. (Virii?) Hi Skip, That would be me. It could be B.S., I don`t know. I heard it on news radio KCBS on the "World News Roundup" at the top of each hour about 2 weeks or a month ago. Myself, I`m not paranoid of viruses. If a virus wiped out a hard drive, oh well, reformat and reload an OS, computers are always faster after a clean install anyway. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
At 03:49 PM 2/9/01 -0600, you wrote: >Actually, I'm from Texas. What country did you say you come from? > >Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas Whatever it is, it's probably not as big as Texas. :) Collin *** "The accumulation of all powers legislative, executive and judiciary in the same hands . . . may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." --James Madison, Federalist 47 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
Hi, Ken Archer wrote: > direction in photographing the things we usually take for granted. Just take > America out of it and substitute The World. whatever you substitute, the saccharine, uncritical sentimentality still makes me want to puke. -- Cheers, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
Robert H. wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > That's > > something I hate about yankees. > > Is that all? Gee, some people find lots more. > > But I suggest that you be a little more careful in your choice of words > when lecturing us about geographically correct terminology. Most > (North) Americans do not view themselves as Yankees despite the sloppy > usa of the term in other countries. As the Oxford English Dictionary > notes, the US usage is generally: > > U.S. A nickname for a native or inhabitant of New England, > or, more widely, of the northern States generally; during > the War of Secession applied by the Confederates to the > soldiers of the Federal army. > > So some of us would view being called a Yankee as a serious insult, > folks from our Southern states in particular, since many still remember > that war with some bitterness. Non-southerners who do not view > themselves as Yankees -- most of us, as I said -- will not be insulted, > just amused. Thanks for the information, Bob. But what makes you think that Albano gives a hoot about what the Oxford English Dictionary notes for the U.S. usage of the word "yankee"? :-) An Argentine may want to use it in one general South of the Border-connotation. And maybe not sloppy at all, although/just because it may be perceived as insulting or amusing. :) (Btw. In Sweden we use a derivative of "yankee", i.e. "jaenkare" (the "ae" is actually an "a" with two dots on) similar to "northener", "Swedener" etc., for either a U.S. American (male) person or a U.S. American car.) Lasse, Friday night intellectualizing... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
It would be nice to leave patriotism in, in the best sense. Perhaps a theme to make the finest possible statement about one's country and people? Might be good learning for all of use. Collin At 03:36 PM 2/9/01 -0600, you wrote: >I've been a scab picker all my life :-) Gotcha didn't I? I stay in constant >trouble because I can't bring myself to being politically correct. > >On the serious side, however, and setting the patriotism aside, I think all of >us can take pride in the world we live. These lyrics just give a little >direction in photographing the things we usually take for granted. Just take >America out of it and substitute The World. > >Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas *** "The accumulation of all powers legislative, executive and judiciary in the same hands . . . may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." --James Madison, Federalist 47 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
Hello The term yankee in Brazil is related to all North American people. This is not a official portuguese word but as many north american people think that the brazilian capital is buenos Aires, many brazilian people think that yankee means north american citizen The word yankee has this mean in Brazil since the world war II. In the war there were some North American Military bases in the NorthEast of Brazil and some stupid North American military person (we used to say in Brazil that military people does not have brain) said the "the yankees are coming to stop the nazists in the south atlantic...". So blame yourselves for the uncorrected terminology Actually, I moved from Brazil to USA one year ago and I like to live here as much as I like to live in Brazil. There are many differences but the people is as kind as in Brazil and the lifestyle is almost the same Alex Robert Harris wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [Most of diatribe snipped and sent to the rubbish bin] > > > That's > > something I hate about yankees. > > Is that all? Gee, some people find lots more. > > But I suggest that you be a little more careful in your choice of words > when lecturing us about geographically correct terminology. Most > (North) Americans do not view themselves as Yankees despite the sloppy > usa of the term in other countries. As the Oxford English Dictionary > notes, the US usage is generally: > > U.S. A nickname for a native or inhabitant of New England, > or, more widely, of the northern States generally; during > the War of Secession applied by the Confederates to the > soldiers of the Federal army. > > So some of us would view being called a Yankee as a serious insult, > folks from our Southern states in particular, since many still remember > that war with some bitterness. Non-southerners who do not view > themselves as Yankees -- most of us, as I said -- will not be insulted, > just amused. > > Bob, A non-Yankee from New York > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- --- Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department University of Sao Paulo - BrazilPhone: 1-313-577-5419 Wayne State University - MI -USAICQ number: 78139605 --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
>Amen. We were an independent republic before being conned into joining the >"union." Therein lies the source of our fierce regionalism. In fact some of >us even consider Oklahomans as yankees. > >Robert You mean...they aren't? Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: G(r)oup Project
Welcome to the list Ken. The language is English, but the group is international. A very nice bunch of people, too. Dan Scott (northwest side of San Antonio) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Ken Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I've been a scab picker all my life :-) Gotcha didn't I? I stay in constant >trouble because I can't bring myself to being politically correct. > >On the serious side, however, and setting the patriotism aside, I think all of >us can take pride in the world we live. These lyrics just give a little >direction in photographing the things we usually take for granted. Just take >America out of it and substitute The World. > >> Albano wrote: >> >YES, I AM FROM ARGENTINA AND I AM AMERICAN TOO. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Ilford film choice
tom wrote: > Anyway, that experience got me > looking at Delta again. If I can > figure out how to control the > highlights (PMK?) I may just switch. At Mark's suggestion, I picked up a few roll of Delta 100, and am quite anxious to see the results. Unfortunately, it's not been Delta weather here, so I've not shot and processed any yet. I plan to start with ID-11, probably 1:1. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ilford film choice
Jens Bladt wrote: > > HI Terence > B.S!!! > The Delta films are very sharp, very > fine grain, great tones. I only use > something else if I have to. Hi Jens ... While that may be your experience, others, using different chemicals, different techniques, and who have different water, may find that your results differ from theirs. I wouldn't say it's B.S.! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "When you photograph people in color, you photograph their clothes, but when you photograph people in B&W, you photograph their souls." - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: filmy desicion...nice title hun?
Perhaps i should have been a little more specific...I am primarily going to use a 50/1.4 and a 24/2.8, and 100 speed print film is what i use most of the time, so i don't think that is any kind of drawback. I don't have a tripod yet, but i am hoping to have one by the time i leave for the trip, but as i said, i generaly have no problems hand-holding with 100 (fairly good results at 1/15th), so i'll only be limited in lowlight conditions, when for the most part i will be setting up a tent, eating, or staying warm rather than taking pictures. (There are only so many you can take at a campsite anyway, unless you feel you have a really photogenic tent). Also, i will not be shooting wildlife, unless one jumps on the trail and smiles at me, or looks off in the distance with a sensual expression (not likely to happen). Furthermore, i have shot slides (Kodachrome 64, elite100, sensia II), and the meter on neither my kx nor my k1000(along for backup) has had any exposure problems. So i pose the question again...good film for landscapes (primarily), and descent enough to show your friends for shots with people (secondary). brent - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Scan - Comments Welcome
Hi Doug ... > At the bottom of the cross, next > to the little praying figurine, > there's what looks to be like a > blue shoe, it's mate (possibly) > more hidden by the grass. > > Hope I'm not hallucinating. You're not hallucinating - there is something there, but it's not a shoe. It's an abalone shell. Just a few miles west of where the memorial is, are some great abalone beds. Yummm! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My best work is often almost unconscious and occurs ahead of my ability to understand it." -Sam Abell; "Stay This Moment" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
If you are a betting man, I'll take that bet. On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, you wrote: > Whats the chances that now Ken will just fall into the background and be to > scared to ever post again. It was quite harsh. -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
<< Hell, most self-respecting Texans don't even consider themselves "Americans", they are "Texans" first and foremost. >> Amen. We were an independent republic before being conned into joining the "union." Therein lies the source of our fierce regionalism. In fact some of us even consider Oklahomans as yankees. Robert - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: test
At 04:49 9.2.2001 +0200, you wrote: >sorry Welcome Valentin! We have already been worried what's with the Cave. Does it mean you are back? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: re:A lens that only fits on plastic lens mount
hi Cy! Sorry, but I _am_ cynical :) I have only one plastic Pentax, one of the better-made ones in those days, it has got the greatest grip ever, but it *creaks* ! So perhaps you can understand some of my reservations against plastic. Especially if it's the same stuff what cellular phones are made of. Anyway, I just like metal cameras more. But I take utmost care of all cameras I have, and in the light of 65 year old camera I have still making perfect pictures (although being used lot of its life), I just feel reserved about plastic. And you can't deny that today, things are NOT built to last. As somebody said, if Spotmatic was built today to same standards, it would cost between 1000-1500$... But I don't want to start another long plastic/metal or digital/film flamewar. Can we stop right now and take any more arguments off list? Frantisek At 19:15 8.2.2001 -0600, you wrote: >Such cynic!!! The plastic that they use in lens mounts is the same as >football helmets that take many heavy blows every football game. A lot worse >than bump to a camera. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT World Press Photo awards
Over the years, I have published five different publications. I have always looked for a picture that would stop someone from paging through the magazine and encourage them to read the story. From that standpoint, the face-to-face encounter and the sprinters get my vote. One has impact and you have to find out what it's about. The other gets your attention with style. As for the winner, I just can't say anything bad about a picture taken in Texas :-) Just can't say anything good about this one. On Fri, 09 Feb 2001, you wrote: > You're not in the PJ business Norm, (or are you?), so the merits of the > photos mgiht have escaped your otherwise discerning eye. > > Remember too, the first time the photos were seen by the public was on or in > some newspaper whose recycled newprint paper whre only the content of the > photos mattered. > Thus, you would probably appreciate them more if you knew the storie attached > to them. > > Suda Mafud, -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Ken Archer wrote: > Actually, I'm from Texas. What country did you say you come from? *LOL* Good comeback! :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Most of diatribe snipped and sent to the rubbish bin] > That's > something I hate about yankees. Is that all? Gee, some people find lots more. But I suggest that you be a little more careful in your choice of words when lecturing us about geographically correct terminology. Most (North) Americans do not view themselves as Yankees despite the sloppy usa of the term in other countries. As the Oxford English Dictionary notes, the US usage is generally: U.S. A nickname for a native or inhabitant of New England, or, more widely, of the northern States generally; during the War of Secession applied by the Confederates to the soldiers of the Federal army. So some of us would view being called a Yankee as a serious insult, folks from our Southern states in particular, since many still remember that war with some bitterness. Non-southerners who do not view themselves as Yankees -- most of us, as I said -- will not be insulted, just amused. Bob, A non-Yankee from New York - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT OT OT Re: Goup Project
> > So some of us would view being called a Yankee as a serious insult, > folks from our Southern states in particular, since many still remember > that war with some bitterness. Non-southerners who do not view > themselves as Yankees -- most of us, as I said -- will not be insulted, > just amused. > > Bob, A non-Yankee from New York > - A Texan (such as Ken) would take even more umbrance to being called a Yankee. Hell, most self-respecting Texans don't even consider themselves "Americans", they are "Texans" first and foremost. Chris, an ex-pat Texan in New Jersey - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT, OT OT OT
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: > Have you heard from our representative in Ulan Bator yet? Nope. I bet Pentax Ulan Bator has an MZ-Sn out already, with the 120/2.3 Limited lens. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
