MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure.
Hi! I just need to know one thing. Is it possible to do multiple exposure in MZ-3/5N? If yes, is it double exposure or more than two exposures? With regards, Ayash Kanto. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: urls-snips-hhgttg
Some answers interspersed below: -Original Message- Hi Group: I have two computer / e-mail??? for you.I have noticed on many threads when people reply to a question/comment,they include part of the original text and then a reply.How might you be doing this? When I click the Reply button in my mail reader, a window opens with all of the original text marked with a greater than. Then I manually delete the unneeded parts of the original text. I can customise the appearance of the original text in the Settings in the mail reader. Also when some one posts a url to a site are you typing this in manually or is there a way to save it in the text of the mail? I usually copy and paste the URL text from the address line in the browser. HTH, Jostein ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #760
In a message dated 21/05/01 04:49:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: LX SE-60 screen limitations Hi Team, I just wanted to report that I found that the new SE-60 screen vignettes badly when used in conjunction with the Pentax 28mm f3.5 Shift lens. * Rob. Included with the screen, I believe there is a leaflet showing compatibilty with various lenses. Is the shift not included in the lens list? Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 23 LTD????
A friend of ours in Japan (Pentax user photojourno) was sent a lens to try for a week. It was tested and returned to Pentax. I know nothing more about this, but can only speculate. Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Chromogenic BW Film
William wrote: WR I do like XP-2 for portraiture, it has a very nice smooth skin WR tone and excellent gradation. The downside of it is how very WR soft the emulsion is. It is extremely easy to damage during WR handling. This, to me is a fatal flaw. While I am a very careful WR film handler, accidents do happen. With XP-2 I cannot use the WR negatrans on my enlarger. This is the only film that has ever WR been damaged by my negatrans. If Ilford would fix this, it would WR be an extremely good film, though not for landscapes, as you WR have pointed out. Bill, is it possible they fix it in XP2 Super, or is this precisely the version you tested? I haven't noticed any scratches on my XP2 Super stripes, but I'll warn the lab operator about it next time when I take them for enlargements. Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #760
On 21 May 2001, at 3:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob. Included with the screen, I believe there is a leaflet showing compatibilty with various lenses. Is the shift not included in the lens list? Kind regards from sunny Brighton Hi Peter, There is indeed a compatibility chart included with the new screen however I have found through experimentation that most combinations work well enough to be quite usable whether noted as incompatible or not however this pair are really not compatible, not even a little :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
C41 BW
Anyone tried the new Kodak pro C41 BW? Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera motorcycle
Hi, I just carry mine in a backpack. some one turned into front of me 3 weeks ago and the bike and i both flew over the car, busted myself and the bike up pretty bad, but camera is still fine :) Paul Ouch. Are you going to be ok? Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: urls-snips-hhgttg
Begin Original Message From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 20 May 2001 07:05:19 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: urls-snips-hhgttg Hi Group: I have two computer / e-mail??? for you.I have noticed on many threads when people reply to a question/comment,they include part of the original text and then a reply.How might you be doing this? Also when some one posts a url to a site are you typing this in manually or is there a way to save it in the text of the mail? Thanks folks,I got this part to work i think Dave Thirdly, we have 20 replys about Douglas Adams in various forms.Looks like he had many fans and will be sadly missed.Some were in my house is the old dos game of hhgttg i bought in 1990 on a 5 1/4 disk.When i find it it is going back on the computer for a while. SF-1 update:Took a roll of Kodak Max 400 at a Jumping show(outdoor)last week(sigma 100-300) and the prints look great.Will try it out on a Dressage show today(this type of show is like watching paint dry but heh it pays)as this is the type of work i wanted an AF for.Also tryewd some Fuji superia 400,not bad(trees not so dark green in my backgrounds) might use it with the Max. Sorry for the babble Dave Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-50
- Original Message - From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ZX-50 Sounds good. What does the Zx-7 offer that the Zx-50 does not? Anything that is drastic? Most of all, a six-elements matrix (ZX/MZ - 50 matrix has two elements, which makes it more like a center-weighted meter). Also remote control, multiexposure and some other things... As it was said, ZX/MZ 7 can better cooperate with the older Pentax lenses. On the other hand, however, my friend's MZ-50 can work with a fully manual Jupiter (old russian stuff:)) lens (slightly modificated, though:)), while my MZ-7 cannot... I think that MZ-5n (in MZ/ZX series, of course) has currently the best price in relation to its specification. Perhaps MZ-S can beat it... In addition to the Pentax US site you can check it all out at the Boz's page:) Regards Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-50
On Mon, 21 May 2001 15:45:00 -0700, Paul Jones wrote: I MZ7 can use pre A series lenses. at the pentax US site you can do a Duh, I knew that. :-) I think the MZ5n is the pick of the MZ series. That it is. I own one Just looking for an autofocus for my grand daughter... Thanks! Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 1000 f8 pic
Hey Steve, I had similar experiences when I was young. Just to make you jealousI've landed in a 747 at LAX, sitting in the spare seat behind the pilot...also taken off same way from Nagoya at night. Norm Steve Larson wrote: Your love affair with airports and planes sounds like mine. When I was a kid (about the same time frame as you, born in 57) I would ride my bike to LAX with a buddy, (about 8 miles) and hang out there all day. We coerced some people in operations to let us go on the planes and sit in the pilot seats, don`t think they would do that today! I still have some slides of planes landing I took way back then with my dads Argus C3. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chasseur d'image 28-105
good to hear that the boys at C d'I are so on the ball brushed aluminium hence the AL designation _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 1000 f8 pic
Thanks for the info, I`m writing it down. There`s a nice vantage spot on the north side of LAX too, by the In Out Burger, but would only be good for final approach shots, I learned that by waiting in the drive thru. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:43 AM Subject: Re: 1000 f8 pic Yep, isn't there a roof access on, I think, Terminal 5? That would be a cool vantage point. Norm Steve Larson wrote: Hi Norm, We set up camp on Imperial way (little Imperial that runs along side Imperial Blvd) at the top of the little hill where the benches are. Does it ring a bell? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 5:29 AM Subject: Re: 1000 f8 pic Just curious Steve, where were you at the airport? Norm Steve Larson wrote: Hi, There`s a pic using the 1000/8 at: http://members.nbci.com/stevelarson/Photograghy%20Page/Landing%20(2).jpe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Hello Pentaxians
Hi there, I've been lurking for a while since going to an MZ5 for my main 35mm. I'm a school publications guy and I need some help finding a good shot of a red-tailed hawk. I need an original 8x10 print or larger to blow up to poster size. The photographer can retain all rights, but I'd like to get rights in a deal to do a short run poster and use the photo in our school publications. Any suggestions? I have moderate budget to play with on this. Also, I need some lens enabling. How do the longer Penatx AF zooms compare? Say 80-320 vs. 100-300? Currently my lens lineup includes a 24/2.8 MF sigma, 28-70/4 FA, 50/1.7 F, 100/2.8 F macro, and an old quantaray 70-210/4 MF one touch. I'm on the digest, so please respond directly. Thanks, Christopher Lillja Publications Coordinator The Pennington School www.pennington.org - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, none is 400 ASA precisely. Both Kodak and Ilford are variable 100-800 ASA speed films, with a marketing peak of 400. One can shoot at any speed he likes better the grain, tone range, contrast, etc. What the heck is a marketing peak? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
Indeed, a key attribute of these films is that you need not commit the entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, you can choose your setting, frame by frame, without fear that you will under- or overexpose the other frames. Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, none is 400 ASA precisely. Both Kodak and Ilford are variable 100-800 ASA speed films, with a marketing peak of 400. One can shoot at any speed he likes better the grain, tone range, contrast, etc. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Filter Blab
Now I know why my email's In bin isn't full of willing buyers for my B+W MC 77mm 010 filter! But seriously, Shel, yours is the first letter to directly compare SMC filters with B+W RMC filters. I still have five lenses for which I must buy protective -010 filters, so I'll follow your tip and get SMCs. Actually, when I look at my B+W RMCs, I likewise think, No glass! If the Pentax is even better, it must be truly amazing. Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried 'em all - top of the line Hoyas with their super coating, multi-coated B+Ws, and even a Heliopan. Nothing compares to the SMC Pentax Unfortunately, I'm stuck with multi-coated B+W filters for those lenses. Only a few months ago I could not imagine ever saying that I was stuck with a B+W MC filter. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
On 21 May 2001, at 9:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, a key attribute of these films is that you need not commit the entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, you can choose your setting, frame by frame, without fear that you will under- or overexpose the other frames. Gee Paul, I hope Shel isn't following this thread any longer :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Filter Blab
Shel, For the record: What the Heliopan that you tried the special-order, multicoated version? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, a key attribute of these films is that you need not commit the entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, you can choose your setting, frame by frame, without fear that you will under- or overexpose the other frames. That doesn't sound right, and is counter to my experience. Some time ago I did what I called a typical consumer shoot and used three different rolls of C41 BW film. The idea was to shoot the rolls and just drop 'em off at the handiest lab I could find. One roll - perhaps Ilford - was shot using variable EIs and the results were all over the place. They were terrible. I can see shooting an entire roll at one EI, 200, 400, 800, and getting consistent results, but not shooting as you've suggested. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
Unfortunately, I caught that ... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths Rob Studdert wrote: On 21 May 2001, at 9:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, a key attribute of these films is that you need not commit the entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, you can choose your setting, frame by frame, without fear that you will under- or overexpose the other frames. Gee Paul, I hope Shel isn't following this thread any longer :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Clippy
Re the thread of a couple of weeks ago on Kodak packaging, which veered OT into the dumbing-down of America, this might help explain things: http://www.rita.thegourmet.com/computers.html Cheers! Stephen Moore __ You got a Zarg in here? Are you *nuts*??? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Filter Blab
Hi Paul ... I'm sure there are other factors at play here. Perhaps there aren't that many list members that need a 77mm UV filter, and the price, while good, is still high for many people. Two months ago I'd have bought it in a NY minute, but now that I can get a SMC Pentax filter for even less than your very fair price, I'd have to pass. The B+W is a very fine filter, although for a while they were having some quality problems. There was a fair amount of discussion concerning a film or haze that was found on new filters. I received a few filters that needed a good cleaning right out of the box. IAC, I'm sold on the SMC Pentax filters, although they are available only in limited sizes (49mm, 52mm, 58mm, 67mm, and 77mm) and colors. B+W offers a much broader range in both areas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I know why my email's In bin isn't full of willing buyers for my B+W MC 77mm 010 filter! But seriously, Shel, yours is the first letter to directly compare SMC filters with B+W RMC filters. I still have five lenses for which I must buy protective -010 filters, so I'll follow your tip and get SMCs. Actually, when I look at my B+W RMCs, I likewise think, No glass! If the Pentax is even better, it must be truly amazing. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Filter Blab
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel, For the record: What the Heliopan that you tried the special-order, multicoated version? Maybe, but probably not. I received a filter from a list member a while ago, compared it to the other filters, and then proceeded to misplace it. Clearly I was not too impressed. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clippy
What an absolute miserable idea it was to post that URL. There are kids and people reading this list that might be offended by such garbage. You should have at least put a content warning in the message or in the subject line. Better yet, keep that sort of thing off the list. Stephen Moore wrote: Re the thread of a couple of weeks ago on Kodak packaging, which veered OT into the dumbing-down of America, this might help explain things: -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: urls-snips-hhgttg
David J Brooks wrote: Begin Original Message From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 20 May 2001 07:05:19 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: urls-snips-hhgttg Hi Group: I have two computer / e-mail??? for you.I have noticed on many threads when people reply to a question/comment,they include part of the original text and then a reply.How might you be doing this? Also when some one posts a url to a site are you typing this in manually or is there a way to save it in the text of the mail? Thanks folks,I got this part to work i think Except that we can't tell what you're quoting from what you wrote this time! What e-mail program are you using? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
Rob Studdert wrote: On 19 May 2001, at 16:12, Aaron Reynolds wrote: The other reason I have to doubt the rumor is that the FA* 24mm f2.0 is a really freakin' huge chunk of glass...a 23mm f1.8 would have to be even bigger, and that seems to me to go against the Limited grain. From my observations the FA lenses tend to be bloated WRT housings regardless of the glass that they contain (especially where there are A series equivalents), the LTD lenses seem to have very well designed housings that have consciously been limited in size? Yeah, but the FA* 24mm f2.0 has a huge front element! :) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Provia 400F
Steve Larson wrote: Forgot, Aaron pushed the stuff, and IIRC he said it looked great @ 800, so-so @ 1600. Yep, with the qualifier that I haven't seen any 1600 ISO slide film that I'm impressed with. :) It's quite good at 800, I'd say almost as good as it is at 400. I've had no problems scanning it with mister Sprintscan. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Bird prints (was: Hello Pentaxians)
You might try the Audubon Society at http://www.audobon.org. Christopher Lillja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a school publications guy and I need some help finding a good shot of a red-tailed hawk. I need an original 8x10 print or larger to blow up to poster size. The photographer can retain all rights, but I'd like to get rights in a deal to do a short run poster and use the photo in our school publications. Any suggestions? I have moderate budget to play with on this. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
While I haven't shot chromogenic BW since 1987, I distinctly remember more than one review citing the frame-by-frame flexibility, at least for Ilford XP-1. I can't recall what happens to the +2 or -2 ISO frames; they werern't rendered less usable, just different. I don't believe it was about grain.Contrast, perhaps? What do the chromogenic filmmakers' websites say? Is this claim currently being made? Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: Chromogenic BW Film [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, a key attribute of these films is that you need not commit the entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, you can choose your setting, frame by frame, without fear that you will under- or overexpose the other frames. That doesn't sound right, and is counter to my experience. Some time ago I did what I called a typical consumer shoot and used three different rolls of C41 BW film. The idea was to shoot the rolls and just drop 'em off at the handiest lab I could find. One roll - perhaps Ilford - was shot using variable EIs and the results were all over the place. They were terrible. I can see shooting an entire roll at one EI, 200, 400, 800, and getting consistent results, but not shooting as you've suggested. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Chromogenic BW Film
Shel wrote: SB What the heck is a marketing peak? What would the marketing dept choose to label a film that performs equally well at 100 and 400 ASA? Name it 100 ASA? Why would one buy it then? Stick a 800 ASA label? A bit of decency, gentlemen. But 400 is interesting and looks credible. Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My new stiff zoom...
Thanks to everybody who replied to my questions!.. I've choose to keep the lens and seller agreed to refund significant part of money I've paid ;-) At the same time I tried to fix it: I removed the rubber sleeve on zoom/focus collar and put a few drops of oil somewhere on rotating joint, visible through rides for nylon washers (it's hard to explain with my English where exactly, but my mechanical engineer's scent guided me ;-) and then spent some time (near 2 hours!) turning focusing collar back and forward, periodically reapplying lubrication... I can't say it is smooth as new now but definitely not so stiff as was before... I made some shorts already and must say that optically it's really excellent lens! It's first Pentax lens I have whose bokeh is really pleasing to me! I have SMC-A 50mm F2, SMC-M 135mm F3.5 and A 28-80mm F3.5-4.5 (non-SMC) zoom plus Super A(Program) body. I used 135mm for portraiture but it's bokeh is good (not nice!) or wide open or beyond F5.6 + 1/2 = F6.7 when aperture blades start to form opening without harsh corners... SMC-A 70-210 F4 zoom has, it seems, very good to nice bokeh almost at all aperture values despite it's opening becomes near round at F8 and beyond (maybe because of far more complicated optical formulation (14-13) the shape of aperture blades opening doesn't affect bokeh so much?). Ok, good shooting to all our Pentax community ;-) Good-bye, Vlad. - Original Message - From: Vlad L. Loukiantchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 16:15 Subject: My new stiff zoom... Hi, All! I've just got the famous Pentax SMC 70-210 F4 zoom I've bid on eBay. It looks good enough optically and cosmetically but has pretty stiff focusing especially on 70mm zoom position near short range. Of course the zoom action is little loose also ;-) Is it possible to do something (lubricate) with this, preferably by myself (suppose I have enough skills in such kind of things repair). Maybe somebody tried to perform such task and know what to do? PS Definitely the seller didn't describe nothing about it: sooo clean optically and physically. I'm trying to communicate with him on this issue... Maybe you know how much such service will be cost? Thanks in advance and happy shooting, Vlad - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I haven't shot chromogenic BW since 1987, I distinctly remember more than one review citing the frame-by-frame flexibility, at least for Ilford XP-1. I can't recall what happens to the +2 or -2 ISO frames; they werern't rendered less usable, just different. I don't believe it was about grain.Contrast, perhaps? What do the chromogenic filmmakers' websites say? Is this claim currently being made? Excerpted from the Ilford site: XP2 SUPER is a chromogenic film. This means that the dyes which make up the image are formed during development rather than being present in the film or added later. The extremely wide exposure latitude of XP2 SUPER is the result of the unique relationship between exposure and grain in chromogenic films. The best balance of sharpness and grain is obtained when XP2 SUPER is exposed at EI 400/27. However, down-rated or overexposed XP2 SUPER negatives have finer grain, the opposite of that expected and obtained with conventional films. Up-rated or underexposed XP2 SUPER negatives have only a slight loss in quality. EXPOSURE RATING XP2 SUPER film has a speed rating of ISO 400/27° (400ASA, 27DIN, EI 400/27) to daylight. The ISO speed rating was measured using standard C41 processing. Although rated at ISO 400/27°, XP2 SUPER can be exposed over the range EI 50/18800/30. When higher speed is needed, XP2 SUPER can be rated at up to EI 800/30. For finer grain, when speed is less important, rate the film at EI 200/24, although for finest grain it can be rated as low as EI 50/18 if required. CHOOSING THE RIGHT FILM SPEED FOR THE JOB Best overall quality EI 400/27 Finer grain (with easy printing) EI 200/24 Finest grain (but with denser negatives) EI 50/18 Note No matter which film speed is chosen, standard C41 processing is recommended. It should be noted that nowhere in the data sheet could i find anything that said exposing a roll using different film speeds was acceptable or good practice. Of course, you can go to the web site and read the entire PDF file yourself. http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/bw.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-50
I wouldn't worry about the plastic mount, my ZX-M has seen plenty of lens changes with no ill affects. If you drop the camera, it might break - but only in situations where a metal mount would likely bend. Todd At 10:23 AM 5/21/01 +1000, you wrote: Hi, My girlfriend has an MZ50, and the plastic pretty sturdy, its seen frequent lense changes and still looks like new. Cya - Original Message - From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:45 AM Subject: Re: ZX-50 On Mon, 21 May 2001 07:29:58 -0700, Paul Jones wrote: Its plastic. Yuk. g Thanks! Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: C41 BW
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Anyone tried the new Kodak pro C41 BW? I assume you mean Portra B+W? No, but my lab has seen a few rolls. They say it looks like T400CN, but prints easier on color paper. At that point they hadn't tried it on b+w paper. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Chromogenic BW Film
Does this just relate to a wider exposure lattitude? If you the exposure lattitude of the neg is wider than the paper (as is the case for most colour C41) then over or under exposing by a stop or two can be corrected at the printing stage with no noticeable effect as the final print will always be 18% grey by default. Rob Brigham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 May 2001 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Chromogenic BW Film While I haven't shot chromogenic BW since 1987, I distinctly remember more than one review citing the frame-by-frame flexibility, at least for Ilford XP-1. I can't recall what happens to the +2 or -2 ISO frames; they werern't rendered less usable, just different. I don't believe it was about grain.Contrast, perhaps? What do the chromogenic filmmakers' websites say? Is this claim currently being made? Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: Chromogenic BW Film [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, a key attribute of these films is that you need not commit the entire roll to one ISO setting. Rather, you can choose your setting, frame by frame, without fear that you will under- or overexpose the other frames. That doesn't sound right, and is counter to my experience. Some time ago I did what I called a typical consumer shoot and used three different rolls of C41 BW film. The idea was to shoot the rolls and just drop 'em off at the handiest lab I could find. One roll - perhaps Ilford - was shot using variable EIs and the results were all over the place. They were terrible. I can see shooting an entire roll at one EI, 200, 400, 800, and getting consistent results, but not shooting as you've suggested. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Chromogenic BW Film
- Original Message - From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 21, 2001 1:46 AM Subject: Re[2]: Chromogenic BW Film William wrote: The downside of it is how very soft the emulsion is. Bill, is it possible they fix it in XP2 Super, or is this precisely the version you tested? I haven't noticed any scratches on my XP2 Super stripes, but I'll warn the lab operator about it next time when I take them for enlargements. If they have, its recent. The XP-2-Super I used for the film tests (that was 2 years ago now) had the problem. If your lab is using formadehyde based stabilizer, the emulsion might be coming out harder as well. We no longer use this type of stabilizer in North America. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Camera motorcycle
Yep - that´s one possibility, too. OT: Which Guzzi do you have? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Daniel Sheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. toukokuuta 2001 2:36 Aihe: RE: Camera motorcycle Raimo, I have a small rack/shelf on the back of my Moto Guzzi, and I just strap my Tamrac bag onto it and go. Never had any problems due to vibration or anything, the bag was designed to protect the lenses and camera and seems to do a good job. I have also carried my ME Super or ZX-M on quite a few snowmobile trips without any adverse effects, and that is a lot rougher ride than a bike. Dan Sheetz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raimo Korhonen Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera motorcycle Hi all, what´s the best way of carrying your camera when riding a motorbike? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Apology for Clippy
(Also sent to Shel privately) Shel Belinkoff wrote: What an absolute miserable idea it was to post that URL. There are kids and people reading this list that might be offended by such garbage. You should have at least put a content warning in the message or in the subject line. Better yet, keep that sort of thing off the list. Shel, you're absolutely right. I sincerely apologize to the list for the gaffe. (Since I believe you were the one who originally asked about Clippy, when this thing arrived in my inbox this morning I should have e-mailed you privately -- or, better, just forgotten the whole thing.) If nothing else, this is a good illustration of how easy it is to become accustomed to internal e-mail banter at work, where the composition of the audience is known, and to forget that other audiences are more diverse. HHIS, Stephen Moore - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vs: Vs: Camera motorcycle
Yep - it´s a Guzzi (v65 Florida, a model not imported to USA). I was thinking along the same lines as you - a tank bag or a belt of fanny pack of some sorts but tank bag seems to be the best choice. And my old ME has travelled a lot without any problems but can MZ-5n take same kind of treatment? Perhaps if you were to ride an MZ motorcycle? ;-) (How many people have heard of MZ motorcycles? Anyone know if they're still in business since the wall came down?) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vs: Vs: Camera motorcycle
Raimo Korhonen wrote: ... my old ME has travelled a lot without any problems but can MZ-5n take same kind of treatment? And can the 24-90? If it can't, I'd be very disappointed. However, more telling, is that you're uncertain of how durable the new gear is. I think this goes back to a discussion we had a few months ago as to whether the new plastic bodies and lenses would stand up over time. Let us know if you experience any difficulties or problems. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Chromogenic BW Film
Surely the phrases 'extremely wide exposure latitude of XP2' and 'No matter which film speed is chosen, standard C41 processing is recommended.' confirms that the exposure lattitude of the neg is wider than paper so over or under exposing a single frame by a stop or two can be corrected at the printing stage with no noticeable effect as the final print will always be 18% grey by default. The only effect would be the change in characteristic of the grain etc, but this would be no different for a single frame to a whole film. This is very different to slide film etc where the processing needs to be different for different ratings. I didnt believe in the idea at first, but you are confirming it, not disproving it! Rob Brigham -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 May 2001 15:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Chromogenic BW Film [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I haven't shot chromogenic BW since 1987, I distinctly remember more than one review citing the frame-by-frame flexibility, at least for Ilford XP-1. I can't recall what happens to the +2 or -2 ISO frames; they werern't rendered less usable, just different. I don't believe it was about grain.Contrast, perhaps? What do the chromogenic filmmakers' websites say? Is this claim currently being made? Excerpted from the Ilford site: XP2 SUPER is a chromogenic film. This means that the dyes which make up the image are formed during development rather than being present in the film or added later. The extremely wide exposure latitude of XP2 SUPER is the result of the unique relationship between exposure and grain in chromogenic films. The best balance of sharpness and grain is obtained when XP2 SUPER is exposed at EI 400/27. However, down-rated or overexposed XP2 SUPER negatives have finer grain, the opposite of that expected and obtained with conventional films. Up-rated or underexposed XP2 SUPER negatives have only a slight loss in quality. EXPOSURE RATING XP2 SUPER film has a speed rating of ISO 400/27° (400ASA, 27DIN, EI 400/27) to daylight. The ISO speed rating was measured using standard C41 processing. Although rated at ISO 400/27°, XP2 SUPER can be exposed over the range EI 50/18-800/30. When higher speed is needed, XP2 SUPER can be rated at up to EI 800/30. For finer grain, when speed is less important, rate the film at EI 200/24, although for finest grain it can be rated as low as EI 50/18 if required. CHOOSING THE RIGHT FILM SPEED FOR THE JOB Best overall quality EI 400/27 Finer grain (with easy printing) EI 200/24 Finest grain (but with denser negatives) EI 50/18 Note No matter which film speed is chosen, standard C41 processing is recommended. It should be noted that nowhere in the data sheet could i find anything that said exposing a roll using different film speeds was acceptable or good practice. Of course, you can go to the web site and read the entire PDF file yourself. http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/bw.html -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: FA FS
FS Pentax-A 28/2.8 Excellent condition. $115 Pentax-A 35/2.8 Perfect glass. Some paint off edges. $115 Pentax-A 100/2.8 One mark on front glass. Good cosmetics. $125 FA Busch Pressman 'D' 4x5 with Schneider 135/235 convertible http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1238432082 Soligor 28/2.8 for Pentax K mount. Excellent good cocndition. Cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1238630575 Thanks, Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
Shel wrote: I can see shooting an entire roll at one EI, 200, 400, 800, and getting consistent results, but not shooting as you've suggested. I've tried playing around with using a different EI. I shot a few rolls at 160. I was really displeased with the results. Scanning the film was difficult due to the higher density and I could not squeeze out a print I was happy with. I much prefer the tonal rendition at 400 not to mention, again, that it scans really well... Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: C41 BW
On Mon, 21 May 2001, tom wrote: I assume you mean Portra B+W? No, but my lab has seen a few rolls. They say it looks like T400CN, but prints easier on color paper. At that point they hadn't tried it on b+w paper. The word from our Kodak rep is that it's identical to the 400 BW+ consumer film. Same emulsion, with the usual differences between a professional and consumer film. I think he also said that T400CN will not be discontinued, since it's an entirely different emulsion than BW+/Portra BW. AFAIK, BW+ will only be available soon in 24exp rolls. This is what I think I remember hearing, so don't take it as 100% fact. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: digital cameras
Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Let's get things into perspective here. Now, high quality magazines use a 150 line halftone. That is 150 dots per inch (approximately). You made a very common mistake here - a 150-line screen is 150 line PAIRS per inch. That's closer to 300 dpi. So all your other sizes are off by a factor of two. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Chromogenic BW Film
With regard to XP2 SUper, Shel wrote: SB Note SB No matter which film speed is chosen, standard SB C41 processing is recommended. SB It should be noted that nowhere in the data sheet could i find SB anything that said exposing a roll using different film speeds was SB acceptable or good practice. Of course, you can go to the web site SB and read the entire PDF file yourself. Hi Shel, Standard C41 processing regardless the speed means exactly this: a variable speed film. It doesn't matter if you vary exposure on the same film or on different films as long as the devloping process stays the same. I do expose rolls at the same speed (usually 400 or 800), but that is for consistency reasons only - to ease the lab's job. Ocassionally however, I did shoot several frames at a different speed and the lab delivered those images with a vague tint of blue or sepia on the colour paper. That won't a problem for you - you do your own enlargemnt on true bw paper, don't you? Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Wanted- piece for LX Winder....
Hi. waayyy of topic here. I dropped the battery holder of my LX winder at the weekend, and basically, I lost the large plastic rectangular piece a the end, which cosmetically closes up the gap over the battery compartment. I was wondering if anyone has a spare battery holder for sale anywhere? Thanks as always in advance. T. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
Rob Brigham wrote: Surely the phrases 'extremely wide exposure latitude of XP2' and 'No matter which film speed is chosen, standard C41 processing is recommended.' confirms that the exposure lattitude of the neg is wider than paper so over or under exposing a single frame by a stop or two can be corrected at the printing stage with no noticeable effect as the final print will always be 18% grey by default. That's nonsense - at least to me. There are differences in grain and negative density (as specifically stated in Ilford's description). That, to my eyes, produces a noticeable effect. Also, see Mark's comments. Other noticeable effects. While a film may have a wide exposure latitude, varying exposures will produce different results. It can't be helped. Whether or not the results are acceptable, or even noticeable, depends on how critical you are and whether these differences are meaningful to you. They are to me. Perhaps Mark I are a bit more critical than you when it comes to judging print quality or seeing the results of different exposures. The only effect would be the change in characteristic of the grain etc, Agreed. You are contradicting yourself g. Of course, etc may cover a pretty broad range of characteristics. Which other characteristics were you thinking of when you wrote that? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
K2 and KXs spotted in San Jose (was KX and KMs ...)
I made a mistake - it wasn't a KX 2 KMs - it was a K2 and two KXs (and yes, these are all black bodies). I'd describe these as being in reasonable condition, considering their age - there is brassing at some of the edges (the black bodies seem very prone to this), but no immediately apparent dents and dings. They are asking $220 for the K2, and $200 for the nicer of the two KXs. Not by any means bargain prices, but bear in mind that these cameras have been through their repair shop and have already had a CLA (with, I would assume, their regular three-month warranty). They also have a M 135/3.5 for which they are asking $69. It looks as though a filter got jammed into it at one time - part of the screw thread has the black paint worn off. The glass looked OK on a cursory inspection. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera motorcycle
Hi, Yeah should with a bit of time to mend, might have to have a pin put in my arm, as i broke it near the shoulder, but i was lucky it wasnt worse :) Paul - Original Message - From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:34 AM Subject: Re: Camera motorcycle Hi, I just carry mine in a backpack. some one turned into front of me 3 weeks ago and the bike and i both flew over the car, busted myself and the bike up pretty bad, but camera is still fine :) Paul Ouch. Are you going to be ok? Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clippy
If that was offensive to you, you really live a sheltered life. I guess you don't let your kids watch TV as there is far more offensive stuff on Saturday morning kiddie shows. But I guess for people like you it should have had an R13 rating in the subject line. --Tom Shel Belinkoff wrote: What an absolute miserable idea it was to post that URL. There are kids and people reading this list that might be offended by such garbage. You should have at least put a content warning in the message or in the subject line. Better yet, keep that sort of thing off the list. Stephen Moore wrote: Re the thread of a couple of weeks ago on Kodak packaging, which veered OT into the dumbing-down of America, this might help explain things: - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG News
William Robb wrote: Here are some interesting statistics: We are averaging 75 images per month right now. We are using over 3 gigabytes of system resources per month ... 3 gigabytes for 75 images? That's 40 megabytes per image! Either there's an error of a few orders of magnitude here, or we are talking about bandwidth, not system storage. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure.
The only thing I can think off would be to use a leaf shutter lens from a 645 or 67 with the appropriate adapter, and 'B' mode. And even there, apparentely only one of the LS lens for the 67 can do it properly. Your best/cheapest solution would be to get one of the body that can do it for this application. From http://phred.org/pentax/k/ the LX, Z1p/PZ1p, Z1/PZ1, Z-5/Z-5p, MZ-7/ZX-7, MZ-30/ZX-30 would work. You might also look at a CHINON CE-4, which has a clutch mechanism for this purpose, and is also K mount. Michel - Original Message - From: Ayash Kanto Mukherjee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:56 AM Subject: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure. Hi! I just need to know one thing. Is it possible to do multiple exposure in MZ-3/5N? If yes, is it double exposure or more than two exposures? With regards, Ayash Kanto. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
pentax super me
Is there any technical (internal) drawings of the above camera on the net anywhere? Thanks. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure.
The only way I know of is to shoot some frames a roll, rewind, retrieve the leader, and shoot the same roll again. You have to be very exact while loading or it will be off, plus it will confuse the heck out of most labs. Todd At 12:26 PM 5/21/01 +0530, you wrote: Hi! I just need to know one thing. Is it possible to do multiple exposure in MZ-3/5N? If yes, is it double exposure or more than two exposures? With regards, Ayash Kanto. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Wanted- piece for LX Winder....
Terrance, I keep a spare battery holder for myself because they are easy accidents. I got mine from Pentax Colorado. Not too expensive, but I can't remember what they go for at the moment. Regards, Bob --- Terence Mac Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. waayyy of topic here. I dropped the battery holder of my LX winder at the weekend, and basically, I lost the large plastic rectangular piece a the end, which cosmetically closes up the gap over the battery compartment. I was wondering if anyone has a spare battery holder for sale anywhere? Thanks as always in advance. T. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Wanted- piece for LX Winder....
In a message dated 5/21/2001 12:02:17 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. waayyy of topic here. I dropped the battery holder of my LX winder at the weekend, and basically, I lost the large plastic rectangular piece a the end, which cosmetically closes up the gap over the battery compartment. I was wondering if anyone has a spare battery holder for sale anywhere? There is a LX winder on e-bay with a spare battery carrier. Perhaps you should check it out. John
Re: My new stiff zoom...
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:44:03 +0200 From: Vlad L. Loukiantchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My new stiff zoom... Vlad L. Loukiantchenko writes: At the same time I tried to fix it: I removed the rubber sleeve on zoom/focus collar and put a few drops of oil somewhere on rotating joint, visible through rides for nylon washers (it's hard to explain with my English where exactly, but my mechanical engineer's scent guided me ;-) and then spent some time (near 2 hours!) turning focusing collar back and forward, periodically reapplying lubrication... I can't say it is smooth as new now but definitely not so stiff as was before... Vlad, I'd be interested in hearing how the lens fares over time. Oiling it like you did is pretty much one of the major things all the camera repair stuff I've read cautions against doing. later, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clippy
Thanks you, Stephen. This gave me a good chuckle and expressed exactly how I feel about Microsoft's approach to software (which I avoid as much as possible, writing this on Netscape, with WordPerfect near at hand). Too bad we caught Shel in a bad mood again. Joe What an absolute miserable idea it was to post that URL. There are kids and people reading this list that might be offended by such garbage. You should have at least put a content warning in the message or in the subject line. Better yet, keep that sort of thing off the list. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Hello Pentaxians
For hawk photos, try an organization like Hawks Aloft. Maybe they have a web site. There's also plenty of wildlife photographers out there. As for the 100-300 and 80-320 lenses, these lenses all get soft at their tele ends. If you want a sharper lens and can do without the longer length, look at the F/FA 80-200 f4.7-5.6. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Ewa Marine housing
Alex wrote: I am considering to attend diving school this summer. The first though I had was: I want to take pictures and don't want to spend a lot of money buying underwater gear. I know that ewa marine makes SLR camera housing for underwater photography. They have a generic house that goes up to 60 feet deep for about $150-200 @ BHPhoto. Does anybody used something like this? Is it good enough to house my PZ-1P and a FA28-70 F4? I intend to go no much deep (20-40 feet). So, can I trust this kind of equipment? Hi Alex, Sounds like you'll be having some fun this summer -- good luck! What kind of diving will you be doing mostly? It's been a long time (15 years?) since I've been scuba diving, and my diving has been in Northern California, primarily off sandy beaches and rocky coastlines rather than off of boats. I mention this because it will influence your choice of gear. I always needed something that could withstand hard accidental contact with sharp rocks, sea urchin spines, dorsal spines of fish, and so forth. Thus, flexible housings like those of Ewa Marine would not have been a good choice as they might tear or puncture easily. Another thing to consider is this -- if you put on a pair of neoprene gloves (a must-have in Northern California waters) and a facemask, how well will you be able to manipulate the controls of your camera? I suspect you'd have a hard time pressing the controls and seeing through the viewfinder of your PZ-1P in a flexible Ewa housing. Finally, I always followed the rule of never bringing anything into the water that I'd be upset about leaving there. I lost a small boat motor entering through the surf off Carmel, and a weight belt (and almost a tank and regulator) coming back in through rough surf in Fort Bragg. If an unexpected situation comes up, how bad would you feel about losing a PZ-1P and an FA28-70/4? Yikes!! I'd suggest an alternative for underwater photography. First, you might want to take a look at the Ikelite line of camera cases. BH carries a few, and your local dive shop may carry some as well. They're thick plexiglas with o-ring seals, they have large external controls which are easy to manipulate with gloved hands, and they have big square rangefinder sites on the outside of the cases to facilitate framing your subjects while wearing a facemask. I've still got an Ikelite case and a 110 camera in the bottom of my dive bag -- it actually takes pretty reasonable 4 x 6 snapshots. Second, instead of your PZ-1P, consider using a 35-mm single-use camera. Ikelite makes a case for these disposable cameras, and one version has a diopter on a moveable pivot at the front of the case to allow you to take close-up macro shots. Hope this helps. Good luck with the diving! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: Clippy
On Mon, 21 May 2001 09:49:04 -0400, Stephen Moore wrote: http://www.rita.thegourmet.com/computers.html Laugh! I thought I'd die! :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ewa Marine housing
Thanks for the suggestion. I will look more carefully. BTW, I will attend a scuba diving school this summer... I think I will have some fun... Thanks again Alex Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Alex wrote: I am considering to attend diving school this summer. The first though I had was: I want to take pictures and don't want to spend a lot of money buying underwater gear. I know that ewa marine makes SLR camera housing for underwater photography. They have a generic house that goes up to 60 feet deep for about $150-200 @ BHPhoto. Does anybody used something like this? Is it good enough to house my PZ-1P and a FA28-70 F4? I intend to go no much deep (20-40 feet). So, can I trust this kind of equipment? Hi Alex, Sounds like you'll be having some fun this summer -- good luck! What kind of diving will you be doing mostly? It's been a long time (15 years?) since I've been scuba diving, and my diving has been in Northern California, primarily off sandy beaches and rocky coastlines rather than off of boats. I mention this because it will influence your choice of gear. I always needed something that could withstand hard accidental contact with sharp rocks, sea urchin spines, dorsal spines of fish, and so forth. Thus, flexible housings like those of Ewa Marine would not have been a good choice as they might tear or puncture easily. Another thing to consider is this -- if you put on a pair of neoprene gloves (a must-have in Northern California waters) and a facemask, how well will you be able to manipulate the controls of your camera? I suspect you'd have a hard time pressing the controls and seeing through the viewfinder of your PZ-1P in a flexible Ewa housing. Finally, I always followed the rule of never bringing anything into the water that I'd be upset about leaving there. I lost a small boat motor entering through the surf off Carmel, and a weight belt (and almost a tank and regulator) coming back in through rough surf in Fort Bragg. If an unexpected situation comes up, how bad would you feel about losing a PZ-1P and an FA28-70/4? Yikes!! I'd suggest an alternative for underwater photography. First, you might want to take a look at the Ikelite line of camera cases. BH carries a few, and your local dive shop may carry some as well. They're thick plexiglas with o-ring seals, they have large external controls which are easy to manipulate with gloved hands, and they have big square rangefinder sites on the outside of the cases to facilitate framing your subjects while wearing a facemask. I've still got an Ikelite case and a 110 camera in the bottom of my dive bag -- it actually takes pretty reasonable 4 x 6 snapshots. Second, instead of your PZ-1P, consider using a 35-mm single-use camera. Ikelite makes a case for these disposable cameras, and one version has a diopter on a moveable pivot at the front of the case to allow you to take close-up macro shots. Hope this helps. Good luck with the diving! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- --- Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department University of Sao Paulo - BrazilPhone: 1-313-577-5419 Wayne State University - MI -USAICQ number: 78139605 --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
smc 200 f2.5 on ebay...
Hi guys and gals, Here's a pretty interesting 'zoom' lens. Actually a 200 f2.5 with a BIN of 500 US bucks. No bidders as of yet. I used to have one and it's a cracker. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1239437614 Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT: urls-snips-hhgttg
Begin Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:21:16 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: urls-snips-hhgttg David J Brooks wrote: Begin Original Message From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 20 May 2001 07:05:19 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: urls-snips-hhgttg Hi Group: I have two computer / e-mail??? for you.I have noticed on many threads when people reply to a question/comment,they include part of the original text and then a reply.How might you be doing this? Also when some one posts a url to a site are you typing this in manually or is there a way to save it in the text of the mail? Thanks folks,I got this part to work i think Except that we can't tell what you're quoting from what you wrote this time! What e-mail program are you using? I'm using the e-mail from Canoe.com(Toronto Sun newspaper free stuff) I thought i got it right.This is why i take more horse jumping pic's then send e-mail :-) Dave Dave -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera motorcycle (and bicycles)
The low constant vibrations of an Airplane can vibrate the screws out of a camera probably faster than the coarser movements of a bicycle however constant bouncing around can throw a mechanical camera's shutter speeds off. The electronics might be effected by having friction connections, (any plug that doesn't have some kind of positive lock), vibrate free. Any connecting wires will be flexing and subject to metal fatigue and therefore breakage. This usually happens at a solder joint. At 10:42 AM 5/20/2001 -0600, you wrote: Adding a bicycle's vibration to Raimo's question... I will be taking cameras on a bicycle tour this summer. The cameras could be packed on the frame or carried in a pack on me. There will be more vibration if they are directly on the bike, but more weight for me if I have to carry them. I don't think the lens are bothered by vibration, a K1000 is probably safe, but the electronics of the MZ-M might be more of an issue. Does vibration ever cause problems for the camera body? Raimo Korhonen wrote: Hi all, what´s the best way of carrying your camera when riding a motorbike? -- Dave Maki Calgary, Alberta - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clippy
I didn't say it was offensive to me, nor did I say I didn't enjoy it. Nor did I even say it was offensive to the general list population. Read my message. I'm just thinking that it might not be the sort of thing that Bruce Dayton or Steve Larson would want their little girls to see. Somehow I can't imagine Bruce calling Erin over to the screen to have her take a look at it. If I posted the language found at that URL to the list I know I'd be admonished by somebody and be called to task for being, at best, insensitive. While the stuff may be funny, I don't think it belongs on a G rated mailing list. Finally, I don't have kids and I don't watch television. If you and Joseph Tainter want to allow your kids to see stuff like that, fine. However, I'll be willing to bet that if either of you had a 9 year old little girl and she started telling you to F* off, you'd be a bit concerned. So why don't you quit pointing your finger at me and examine what my be realisticly acceptable for children and others who may not like that sort of language. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths Tom Rittenhouse wrote: If that was offensive to you, you really live a sheltered life. I guess you don't let your kids watch TV as there is far more offensive stuff on Saturday morning kiddie shows. But I guess for people like you it should have had an R13 rating in the subject line. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE:OT: Camera motorcycle
Raimo, I have a 1980 V50II Guzzi, nice little bike. I really enjoy taking my camera and going for a ride, you see so much more on a bike, it just seems to open up shooting possibilities. There is a picture of my Guzzi on my website if you are interested, at www.ezonline.com/dsheetz Dan Sheetz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raimo Korhonen Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vs: Camera motorcycle Yep - that´s one possibility, too. OT: Which Guzzi do you have? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Daniel Sheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. toukokuuta 2001 2:36 Aihe: RE: Camera motorcycle Raimo, I have a small rack/shelf on the back of my Moto Guzzi, and I just strap my Tamrac bag onto it and go. Never had any problems due to vibration or anything, the bag was designed to protect the lenses and camera and seems to do a good job. I have also carried my ME Super or ZX-M on quite a few snowmobile trips without any adverse effects, and that is a lot rougher ride than a bike. Dan Sheetz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raimo Korhonen Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera motorcycle Hi all, what´s the best way of carrying your camera when riding a motorbike? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clippy
Shel is exactly correct here. I do have to be cautious about what my girls see. There are occassions when the list is a little strong for them. So I have to pre-read and then guide them to the posts that would be helpful to them. I do appreciate the list and the dynamics of the different participants, but I would appreciate you keeping in mind that there are readers of all ages and keeping the content suitable for younger ears. Thanks, Bruce Dayton - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Clippy I didn't say it was offensive to me, nor did I say I didn't enjoy it. Nor did I even say it was offensive to the general list population. Read my message. I'm just thinking that it might not be the sort of thing that Bruce Dayton or Steve Larson would want their little girls to see. Somehow I can't imagine Bruce calling Erin over to the screen to have her take a look at it. If I posted the language found at that URL to the list I know I'd be admonished by somebody and be called to task for being, at best, insensitive. While the stuff may be funny, I don't think it belongs on a G rated mailing list. Finally, I don't have kids and I don't watch television. If you and Joseph Tainter want to allow your kids to see stuff like that, fine. However, I'll be willing to bet that if either of you had a 9 year old little girl and she started telling you to F* off, you'd be a bit concerned. So why don't you quit pointing your finger at me and examine what my be realisticly acceptable for children and others who may not like that sort of language. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths Tom Rittenhouse wrote: If that was offensive to you, you really live a sheltered life. I guess you don't let your kids watch TV as there is far more offensive stuff on Saturday morning kiddie shows. But I guess for people like you it should have had an R13 rating in the subject line. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
On 21 May 2001, at 13:53, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: The Limited lenses are intended to compete directly with Leica. Leica has always had a 90mm. Furthermore, someone on the list mentioned some sort of converter that had a 1.2x magnification that IIRC was supposed to allow Pentax SLR lenses to be used on Leicas (no not in production). The limited lenses are all about 1.2x off from more common focal lengths. Of course you are free to believe that 1.2 factor on all the limited lenses is just a coincidence. Hi Tom, The FA 43mm LTD was released in Japan with Leica screw mount and a flash shoe mounted finder. Since the mounting flange to film plane is distance on the Leica (range-finders) is much less than the Pentax SLR there is no need for optical convertors, the lens simply has to be placed a little further forward of the Leica mount. I don't know if the Pentax lens in Leica screw mount provided for range-finder coupling either, this would significantly reduce its appeal to all but die-hard fans as scale focus would be the only option. I haven't heard any news of the other Ltd lenses being available in screw. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Use of Pentax Equipment
Surely if you are using Pentax lenses, which are what really matters, then it should be OK? Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Mon, 21 May 2001, Conrad Samuels wrote: What is the feeling about my using these cameras with Pentax lenses (they are M42 mount cameras) when submitting pictures to the PUG? I know that in open months concessions are made but the rules seem a trifle ambiguous when discussing Pentax equipment or lenses (quote) for the other months. Conrad F. Samuels Kirstenhof SA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure.
At 11:24 AM 5/21/2001 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: Unless the film transport motor is better in the MZ-5n/3 than my ZX-10's and ZX-M, even if you put the film in the exact same spot, I don't think it will pull it through that closely registered. Examine the gaps on developed rolls and you will probably find that they are slightly uneven. My PZ-1p's do a much better job than the MZ series. I'm assuming the LX is even better. It's designed to be... However this doesn't help if you don't have one. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: Todd Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: Re: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure. The only way I know of is to shoot some frames a roll, rewind, retrieve the leader, and shoot the same roll again. You have to be very exact while loading or it will be off, plus it will confuse the heck out of most labs. Todd At 12:26 PM 5/21/01 +0530, you wrote: Hi! I just need to know one thing. Is it possible to do multiple exposure in MZ-3/5N? If yes, is it double exposure or more than two exposures? With regards, Ayash Kanto. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: smc 200 f2.5 on ebay...
Use too? I never heard of this lens. If it's a cracker why do you not have it today? Jim A. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:21:48 +0100 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: smc 200 f2.5 on ebay... Hi guys and gals, Here's a pretty interesting 'zoom' lens. Actually a 200 f2.5 with a BIN of 500 US bucks. No bidders as of yet. I used to have one and it's a cracker. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1239437614 Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Use of Pentax Equipment
Conrad S. wrote: What is the feeling about my using these cameras with Pentax lenses (they are M42 mount cameras) when submitting pictures to the PUG? I know that in open months concessions are made but the rules seem a trifle ambiguous when discussing Pentax equipment or lenses (quote) for the other months. My feeling: There are thousands of other makers' camera bodies that can control the time for the light, but only Pentax lenses will give Pentax quality (and unfortunately, nowadays, Pentax non-quality too). To me it is obvious that a Pentax lens, no matter with what body, would fullfill the demands for the Pentax-only gallery months. Shoot on, submit, and be happy, I'd say. (I actually think that only using the M42 (although not originally a Pentax patent) or the K-mount should suffice (to me this is very much the Pentax way), but I realize that I may not have any support for this.) Btw. To those of you who have a problem with glasses and viewfinders, one thing I've been asking myself - would eye lenses, instead of glasses, be a solution for you? If not, then why not? Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Photos
On Fri, 18 May 2001 21:33:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: I have a lot of photos of Melbourne Zoo in this lot as well. I tried to get the lions without their cage, so it looked like I was standing right next to them in the wild, but I couldn't get rid of the cage. My lens will only give f5.6 when zoomed to 80mm, and I don't think this was enough. Any suggestions for getting rid of cages? Hopefully, the bars problem will go away in your area soon. Zoos are changing - most are eliminating bars entirely as they modernize. The modernized zoos I've encountered lately need only 200mm or 300mm maximum focal length, and carrying a 100mm or 50mm Macro is almost a must. But for those who still encounter cages and bars, these tricks work very well: 1. As already suggested, shoot between the bars. A PS is good for this. However, most zoos are onto this trick, and place the visitor railing too far away to get the PS (and fingers) into the cage. The through the bars trick is too intrusive of the animal's limited and fixed space for me. Getting the lens right up to the bars is as far as I'm willing to go, and then only if the visitor railing permits that without leaning far over or extending the camera on a monopod. 2. Use a lens such as 200/2.5, 200/2.8. 300/2.8, 400/2.8, or 600/4 wide open. The trick is to put the front of the lens as close as possible to the bars/wires, then choose a subject which is as far away from the bars as possible, yet not so far that the bars/wires at the other side of the cage come into focus. Try to avoid crossed and doubled bars and wires directly in the center of the lens. Try to shoot directly at the subject, not left or right or up or down. Keep the lens at right angles to the bars, so as to reduce the chance of getting more bars than necessary in front of the lens. Look for dull, non-reflective areas of the bars. If the sun is shining directly on the bars, forget it. Look for the reflections and bright spots on the bars and compare that to non-reflective, shaded bars, and you'll see what I mean. Find a spot where the bars are shaded, or have a friend shade them for you. The very best lens I have for shooting through bars is the 600/4. It will shoot right through one inch think vertical bars spaced four inches apart. I can spread my entire hand in front of the front element and still get the shot. The SMC 200/2.5 does a really good job of zoo shots also. It is much better at shooting though bars than the A* 200/4 Macro. I find the 200/2.5 DOF falls off quickly behind the focused point, unlike most other of my lenses which the DOF falls off quickly in front of the focused point. In some cases, I got good photos with the 100/2.8 Macro shooting through thin wires and screens. Many zoos now have thick glass, which presents other challenges such as finding a clean, unscratched, undistorted spot at which the glass is at a right angle to the subject. Setting the front of the lens directly against the glass helps a lot, but exercise care to avoid adding any more scratches to the glass.. -- Happy Trails, Texdance http://members.fortunecity.com/texdance http://members1.clubphoto.com/john8202 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ewa Marine housing
I don't know about this housing, but I used to dive years ago (in my teens), and I can tell you that you may find a 60' depth restrictive. At this point you might not expect to go deeper than 60', but if you come to enjoy diving, eventually you'll learn that 60' is not very deep. There's much of interest below that. (Although I will say that the majority of my dives were probably between 40 and 60'.) You can probably get a custom housing made, but a Nikonos is a better bet for 35 mm. The problem with using an SLR in a housing is the small viewfinder. Back in the 60s, people who did serious underwater photography had housings built for Rollei TLRs and Bronica or Hasselblad SLRs, with big, ground-glass focusing screens. This is still the way I would go if I were going to do this today. Have fun, Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
Alin Flaider wrote: I do expose rolls at the same speed (usually 400 or 800), but that is for consistency reasons only - to ease the lab's job. Ocassionally however, I did shoot several frames at a different speed and the lab delivered those images with a vague tint of blue or sepia on the colour paper. That won't a problem for you - you do your own enlargemnt on true bw paper, don't you? Yes - but I don't use chromogenic film, preferring the real stuff which gives me much greater creative control. I just experimented with it to get a sense of what it could do. However, I can see where I might use it in a specific situation, but certainly not as a general rule. BTW, according to Kodak, Tri-X (and other conventional BW Kodak films) has enough latitude that it can be exposed one stop under and processed normally. So, it seems, it's possible then to shoot several conventional BW films at both 400 and 800 on the same roll with standard processing. Source: Kodak Black White Darkroom Dataguide ISBN 0-87985-606-5 -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... there is no point in pressing the shutter unless you are making some caustic comment on the incongruities of life - Phillip Jones Griffiths - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: another ebay bargain:
BLACK MX going for $205 in 10 min... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1238151203r=0t=0showTutorial=0ed=990498784indexURL=0rd=1 --- James Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use too? I never heard of this lens. If it's a cracker why do you not have it today? Jim A. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:21:48 +0100 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: smc 200 f2.5 on ebay... Hi guys and gals, Here's a pretty interesting 'zoom' lens. Actually a 200 f2.5 with a BIN of 500 US bucks. No bidders as of yet. I used to have one and it's a cracker. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1239437614 Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Use of Pentax Equipment
What is the feeling about my using these cameras with Pentax lenses (they are M42 mount cameras) when submitting pictures to the PUG? I know that in open months concessions are made but the rules seem a trifle ambiguous when discussing Pentax equipment or lenses (quote) for the other months. Conrad F. Samuels Kirstenhof SA Hi Conrad, I support you. Pentax glass is Pentax glass and ought to be good enough for the PUG under any cirumstances. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Use of Pentax Equipment
It seems that no one reads the submission criteria for the PUG. The relevant passage is 9. Themed month gallery images should have been created with Pentax camera and/or lens. Images created with non Pentax equipment are welcome in the open category months. Even for Themed galleries all that is required is a Pentax camera or Pentax lens. The rules don't seem very ambiguous on this point at all. At 10:03 PM 5/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: What is the feeling about my using these cameras with Pentax lenses (they are M42 mount cameras) when submitting pictures to the PUG? I know that in open months concessions are made but the rules seem a trifle ambiguous when discussing Pentax equipment or lenses (quote) for the other months. Conrad F. Samuels Kirstenhof SA Hi Conrad, I support you. Pentax glass is Pentax glass and ought to be good enough for the PUG under any cirumstances. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure.
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Todd Stanley wrote: The only way I know of is to shoot some frames a roll, rewind, retrieve the leader, and shoot the same roll again. You have to be very exact while loading or it will be off, plus it will confuse the heck out of most labs. Todd Hi Todd! I think that will be difficult to do. I hope that you have tried the above mentioned trick with your camera body (If I can correctly remember it is ZX-M). Best regards, Ayash Kanto. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure.
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Michel Adam wrote: Your best/cheapest solution would be to get one of the body that can do it for this application. From http://phred.org/pentax/k/ the LX, Z1p/PZ1p, Z1/PZ1, Z-5/Z-5p, MZ-7/ZX-7, MZ-30/ZX-30 would work. You might also look at a CHINON CE-4, which has a clutch mechanism for this purpose, and is also K mount. Michel Hi! Many thanks for the help. I visited Boz's site just a while ago and found that MZ-S (the brand new flaghship body) can do multiple exposure but I have no idea how much will be the price of that as it has not arrived in the market. Any idea or expectation about it's price? Yes, you are right. MZ-7/30 can do multiple exposure. Let me see if I can borrow that body from my friend. With kind regards, Ayash Kanto. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Chromogenic BW Film
- Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 21, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Chromogenic BW Film I used to use XP-1 extensively. Souped in the XP-1 developer (worked better than C41 on XP-1. XP-2 is supposed to be optimised for C-41) it was usable from ASA 100 to ASA 3200. The grain was about the same but contrast and density varied with to film speed. If you changed film speed you had to print differently, so prints tended to be inconsistant with automated processing if you shot different speeds on the same roll. --Tom Tom inadvertantly brings up the beauty of the chromogenics. They are the films that allow the roll film camera shooter to actually utilize a meaningful zone system of exposure. Stay with me on this for a moment. I hope I can make some sense here. The traditional BW shooter has 2 controls at hand. We use exposure and development to hit a specific contrast range. That contrast range is the one which prints well on the paper we like to print on, more or less. So, within this framework of 3 variables, we go to work. So, what happens when we lock in another variable. The contrast range is already locked, now we lock the development with the use of the C-41 process (Has anyone actually tried to push XP-2?? Just curious). So, what we need is a wide latitude film with a characteristic curve that will give a different contrast range throughout it's exposure slope. For example, it may have a somewhat steep slope at the lower end, flattening out as the exposure increases. This is what the chromogenics do. More than once, I have gone off on a rant about exposure ranges and film latitude. If the scene fits within the film's usable range, then a usable ( not neccesarrily optimized ) print can be made from the resulting negative. Dye image films have an extraordinary usable range. They don't block up the way silver image films do. XP-1 had a range in exess of 10 stops. I bet XP-2Super and T-400CN have longer ranges. The average scene is less than 7 stops, and is closer to 6 stops. Go measure some scenes if you don't believe me, but make sure your meter is colour blind, or else your measurements are useless. Tri-X (the favourite film of the PDML, according to Albano's survey) has a very long toe with a moderate slope. What this means it that Tri-X has a lot of exposure latitude. It also means that Tri-X responds well to development controls. I don't know if this means anything in context, but it just came to mind. Anyway, we were talking about exposure controls. The idea is to fit a particular exposure/development combination into a given scene. Since the chromogenics seem able to give a variable exposure slope depending on exactly where the exposure range sits on it, it is possible to use meaningful zone system controls with them. Sometimes we forget that St Ansel invented the Zone system when emulsions were thick, and had somewhat short exposure ranges. Now, emulsions are thin, and have very long ranges. Now, rather than having a long toe, we have a long shoulder. The Zone system user can work with it, though it is not a replacement for a darkroom and custom film processing and printing. I just wish the emulsions were harder and more permanent. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
- Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 21, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens If there actually is to be a 23mm Limited lens it will undoubtedly be far more compact and sturdily built as well as more expensive than the FA 24/2. Therefor, it would not be a direct competitor. --Tom I bet it's a 19mm William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG News
Sorry, I didn't state that well. The bandwidth used is 3 gigabytes per month for a larger well visited gallery. Right now the PUG is using about 90 mb of hard drive space. This is what the server says for the March 2001 Gallery. Requests Received During Summary Period 483819 Bytes Transmitted During Summary Period 3103941789 Average Requests Received Daily 15607 Average Bytes Transmitted Daily 100127154 April was somewhat less utilized at Requests Received During Summary Period 374664 Bytes Transmitted During Summary Period 2275774479 Average Requests Received Daily 12489 Average Bytes Transmitted Daily75859149 William Robb - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 21, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: Re: PUG News William Robb wrote: Here are some interesting statistics: We are averaging 75 images per month right now. We are using over 3 gigabytes of system resources per month ... 3 gigabytes for 75 images? That's 40 megabytes per image! Either there's an error of a few orders of magnitude here, or we are talking about bandwidth, not system storage. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
On Mon, 21 May 2001, William Robb wrote: I bet it's a 19mm William Robb I'm going for a 21mm, myself, unless they come out with the Limited telephoto. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Clue re next limited lens
I have a HUGE spider crawling accross my monitor. I HATE spiders. L8R Bill - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 21, 2001 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens On Mon, 21 May 2001, William Robb wrote: I bet it's a 19mm William Robb I'm going for a 21mm, myself, unless they come out with the Limited telephoto. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
