Re: never touch the shutter
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:42 AM Subject: Re: never touch the shutter Don't sweat it too much. The shutter is more sturdy than the manual makes you feel. I've heard stories of people pushing a finger all the way through the blades without damage one they return to their correct position. I've touched my ME-S and ZX5's shutters a few times without consequence. I travelled at Scotland this summer, one K-2 went irrepairable, so I could use ohnly my second K-2, the PZ-1 p and LX bodies. Pushing a finger into the shutter (not completely through) of the PZ-1 p, I rearranged the shutterblades, only one of them heavy crumpled, made a test-film and all was o.k. Shutterblades are moved only from one side in this shutter, moving free in a slot on the other side - an therfore the damage was not so severe and I use this body untill today without a repair ... Kristian-Heinrich AC Stuck your finger through the shutter blades and then fire the shutter (by AC accident?) might chop off your finger. So be very very careful!!! Well... AC maybe not... AC regards, AC Alan Chan Aaaargh! The instant I received your mail I had an irresistible urge to try out my K2DMD... now I have to sell them all because I cannot operate a camera without my index finger... :) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
In a message dated 12/1/01 1:55:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is pretty far-fetched. What if your much-vaunted K1000 breaks down, leaving you with access to only a pinhole camera and flashlight? Should you really have to be prepared for all possibilities? Personally, I'd rather carry a spare TTL flash. :) I carry all types of flashes with me. Since assignments won't be dragging me all over the place anymore, I get to choose. As noted, I shoot portraiture most times now and the strategically placed adjustable flash adding pops of manual flash will do when all the TTL flashes in the world won't. But then, that comes from my being comfortable and competent with manual flash. But I repeat the question: how would ~you~ handle the situation I proposed? What's the formula to get a properly exposed shot with a broken 283 and a K1000, subject distance 11.5 feet? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: strictions on photographing
Mike Johnston wrote: I would think that it would depend where in the world you were. Here in the US there was no restrictions as long as you were on public property. After 9/11, who knows. There are some restrictions on publishing as well. There was a famous case a few years ago when the NY Times magazine published a picture of a black man in a business suit in a city cross walk and used it to illustrate a story about the black middle class--the fellow sued, arguing that he was not a member of the middle class but the upper class, and that he was not a representative of the article's subject. I recall that one, but my recollection is that the suit was on slightly different grounds. The photo was a large cover shot on the Sunday NY Times Magazine of the guy striding down the street in a well-tailored suit carrying a briefcase and the cover carried a tag referring to a story inside about members of the emerging Black middle class ignoring the remaining problems of the poor, turning their backs on the ghetto, and the like. And his suit essentially claimed that he had done no such thing, that the juxtaposition misrepresented his views, and he was publicly embarrassed and defamed. He did win, and I think that was a correct decision. Sort of the equivalent of publishing a photo of carefree Mike Johnston walking down the street to illustrate a story about Ax murderers going free even though he was not an ax murderer. :) Of course, I also am going on memory, a memory that gets more feeble as the years go by, so I may not have all details right. :) Another suit I recall hearing about a while back -- the woman who appeared in Dorothea Lange's famous photo, Migrant Mother (PDML reference, p. 599), sued years later, because the photo made her look poor and hopelessly destitute but she had become successful and entered the middle class, etc., so she was embarrassed. I believe she lost that suit, and I think that was a correct decision since the photo was historically accurate. At any event, the moral is, be careful of how you use photos. :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FA 31/1.8 AL Limited Lens Hood
I haven't seen Jostein posting this yet, but the 31 Limited does indeed have a non-removable lens hood. It is fastened by screws. This means that eg. the Cokin filter system will be hard to use with this lens. Screw-in filters works. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights
Tom.Can you get this book from Kodak,or would most bigger camera stores supply them. Dave Begin Original Message From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:30:40 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights My Kodak Photoguide, a tiny book that should be in every photographers gaget bag, says 1/15 at f2.0. --graywolf - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights What would you recommend for time if you used 400 film and a 55 f2?/ Dave Begin Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Odp: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
- Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed! No, the display shows that speed. I noticed this with the MZ-7 a few days ago... it seems to set a sync speed of 1/15 to 1/45 when used on the fully automatic mode indoors, which is ludicrous... few casual shooters can handhold at that speed, even when the flash provides some of the exposure. AFAIK, the flash freezes movement, no matter what the shutter speed is set. As long, as the shutter speed is set to a medium value (1/30 - 1/60) and the photographer uses a standard lens or standard zoom ( like 35-80 or so), there is no problem getting sharp pics... Pentax's explanation was that a slow speed provides a better balance between flash and ambient light, which is true, but it can also result in subject blur. Canons use a faster sync speed, which makes for more flash-heavy picutres, but which results in sharper exposures sometimes. Slower shutter speed allows the camera to gather more ambient light, preventing the night background effects... I definitely prefer it to the faster sync speed, especially because I don't use films faster than ISO400 very often... Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights
Thanks.The lights are going up on our streets now. Dave Begin Original Message From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:23:54 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights 1/8 second. f2 is one full stop slower, 400ASA is 2 stops faster, so you need 1 stop faster shutter speed. Try it, you`ll like it. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights What would you recommend for time if you used 400 film and a 55 f2?/ Dave Begin Original Message From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 06:28:37 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shooting holiday lights Hi Amita, a tripod is a must unless you are going to use 800 to 3200 ASA. I like 100 ASA f1.4 and 1/4 second exposures with a tripod and self timer or cable release. No flash. If you don`t have a f1.4 adjust the time as needed. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:21 AM Subject: shooting holiday lights We're going to the Bronx Zoo tomorrow night to look at a display of holiday lights. How would I shoot something like this? Do I use a flash? Should I bring my monopod and do long exposures? Thanks, Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vs: What Zoom?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/25/01 3:33:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sigma APO Macro Super 4-5.6/70-300. I have the earlier non-Super version and the new one has tested even better. All the best! Raimo Thanks Raimo! I have the same lens. It comes with a hood, and that hood is necessary to keep contrast up. This lens is flarey compared to my Pentax lenses. -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights
Dave, any bookstore should be able to get it for you. I got my current copy from a local camera store. It is called: Kodak Pocket Photoguide. fourth edition. 2001. Publication AR-21. ISBN 0-07985-807-9 $14.95 US $21.95 Can Published under license by : Silver Pixel Press 21 Jet View Drive Rochester, NY 14624 USA http://www.silverpixelpress.com It is a neet little book with all those things you can't remember when you need them. It is full of those little calculator wheels that tell you what you need. The one for existing light is where I got the Xmas light settings from. Handiest little photo book ever. I have one from the mid-fifties that I keep with my Graphic. --graywolf - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights Tom.Can you get this book from Kodak,or would most bigger camera stores supply them. Dave Begin Original Message From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:30:40 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights My Kodak Photoguide, a tiny book that should be in every photographers gaget bag, says 1/15 at f2.0. --graywolf - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Re: shooting holiday lights What would you recommend for time if you used 400 film and a 55 f2?/ Dave Begin Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
The Pug World
With the list members truly covering the 4 corners of the world)its very interesting to see what the planet looks like at the same time(well a 2 hour window) Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Dec PUG comments
Just some mentions of photos that caught my eye and have not been noted yet... Jaume Lahuerta - The Tower and the (Ghost) Church - Wonderful nighttime cloud effects over the city and the tower keeps attracting my attention. Sergey SHP - St. Petersburg, City Centre - So was it nighttime in Poland and broad daylight in St. Petersburg, or is that moonlight? Bill Piefer - Clockworks - simple subject, well executed Stan Halpin - Yellow Flower - Yellow Bug - I like the flower and the bug makes it all that much better. Do you think the Portra 160 NC is muting the colors? Rodger Whitlock - A Synchro-Tomato - The fuzzy stuff threw me off at first, then drew me into the photo. You can almost feel the warmth of the sunshine. Christian Skofteland - Dusk Watch - I like the silouettes and the color, but you've got to lose the CrappyScan scanner. William Robb - Berries - Very vibrant colors and great contrast between the blue berries and the red stems. What kind of Ivy is that? Cotty - Stefan Asleep, 2001 - Sell this photo to a stock agency! It is a wonderfully lit and exposed example of a sleeping child. He will forgive you for taking the photo when he as kids of his own. g Chris Niemertelny - Synchronous Willow - Why do I keep on coming back to look at this photo again and again. It is deceptively simple yet attractive. Gianfranco, Darryn, Jon, Annsan - as others commented, your images are excellent. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Pentax digital SLR
Well said Cotty! Exactly my own point of view at the moment ... (delaying buying a 3-set of limited lenses until things clear up :-) Regards, JvW On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:43:22 +, Cotty wrote: If there is anyone at Pentax reading this, or anyone knows anyone at Pentax, please copy and paste the following and email it to them: -- Dear Pentax, I am an amateur Pentax user of many years, on the cusp of introducing digital image acquisition to my repertoire. I am painfully close to buying a Canon D30, and I do mean painfully. I am prepared to wait - but not for much longer. The point is, if I don't get the chance to buy a Pentax DSLR soon (before Christmas 2002 TOPS), I will, without doubt, be getting a D30, and swapping glass as appropriate. The even bigger point: very unlikely I will swap back, because then I will be caught up in the Canon Way, updating bits of kit as and when appropriate. Sure I'll keep some vintage Pentax kit, but as a company, that's of little interest to you - what you want is for me to buy a Pentax D, not a Canon D. What you want is for me to stay Pentax, so I'll then upgrade as new cameras become available, new lenses, and so on. So please, I know you're working on it, I know you're building it - give me (and all the rest of us in this situation) a quick word of confirmation. Tap out a quick press release, give it to the magazines as a filler even. But give me a confirmation that we'll see hardware on the shelves sometime SOON! Thank you. - - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotted on eBay
In a message dated 30/11/01 23:50:19 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... I do not consider myself a lazy person as I *do* have pictures available upon request. It is just I was unable to upload these due some net problem on eBay's end I think,... Probably best to put the url so at least it *looks* like you tried to upload them. Hey, think of all the free publicity Cotty, Mark, and I have generated for you. That'll be $20, please Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: strictions on photographing
Much of this depends on how you use the image, how you depict it, and who finds out. It's not really where you are standing, so much as what's in your viewfinder. I submit some work for stock, and in addition to needing model releases for every recognizable person, you also need property releases for recognizable private property. I don't worry about it too much on my website, because I'm not making money on it there, and the photo is not likely to be seen by enough people to increase the odds that someone will ever complain about it. But for commercial work - most agencies are very strict about what's in the photograph that someone could potentially sue them for. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com snip I would think that it would depend where in the world you were. Here in the US there was no restrictions as long as you were on public property. After 9/11, who knows. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Which 100 mm Macro?
Hi, I was hoping that the friendly folks on the list could help me decide on a macro lens, roughly in the 100 mm range, prefer 1:1 but 1:2 okay. I would like to take casual portraits with it and an occasional macro shot. My main concern is optical quality. I noticed that the Macro 100mm f/3.5 SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens is fairly inexpensive new... any particular reason? Is optical quality good? I had been set on buying a 100f4.0 M. I use to have one and liked it as far as optical quality. I also noticed several Tamron 90 mm adaptall lenses. I have often read on the list that tamron AF are well respected. I would be fine without the AF capability. How are those? There seems to be several variations--anyone know anything about these? thanks dave __ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Yeah, what Chris said. To sum up, it depends on the ambient light level. The camera sets a faster sync speed in brighter light and a slower on in dim light in order to (attempt to) balance the flash and ambient light better. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Brogden Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 1:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed! On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: I think that your camera is actually using 1/100 sec. but the dislay does not have that speed so it shows the next lower speed. No, the display shows that speed. I noticed this with the MZ-7 a few days ago... it seems to set a sync speed of 1/15 to 1/45 when used on the fully automatic mode indoors, which snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: Illegal Street Photography?
But is this the same or similar law that HCB himself sited in order to keep the recent photos of himself in Faceless by David Douglas Duncan? He was successful in keeping that from being available in France, right? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bob Walkden Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:50 PM To: frank theriault Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Street Photography? Hi, I go to talks by big name photographers quite frequently, and have been to several by Magnum photographers and they all moan like hell about it. As the article says, it makes HCB a criminal. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
In a message dated 12/1/01 7:11:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom.Can you get this book from Kodak,or would most bigger camera stores supply them. They are rare now. (Back in the days), most serious photo store and labs kept them around. Whether they are available from your local pro lab or store or even KODAK is questionable. They were a freebie pass-out from KODAK to dealers (which means a lot of chintzy small dealers and pro shops were too cheap to pay for the shipping). Try your larger labs or pro shops for copies. Or go on-line to KODAK and search KODAK publications. Great, GREAT little (free) book. (and no, you can't have mine) Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
It's also available on line here: http://www.blackrabbit.com/kodak.htm You might also want to browse through the site as there are a few other very well-regarded books on photography there. Meehan's guide to filters is one that is quite worthwhile: http://www.blackrabbit.com/photo7.htm Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Dave, any bookstore should be able to get it for you. I got my current copy from a local camera store. It is called: Kodak Pocket Photoguide. fourth edition. 2001. Publication AR-21. ISBN 0-07985-807-9 $14.95 US $21.95 Can Published under license by : Silver Pixel Press 21 Jet View Drive Rochester, NY 14624 USA http://www.silverpixelpress.com -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Todd, Thanks for this idea, but actually, I was using a Tokina 150-500mm A lens, at the 500mm end! Perhaps the contacts on the lens or body were fouled, and the camera thought it was a short focal length F or FA lens. BTW, what does auto flash mode mean? I've been using this lens for some years without seeing anything like this. I replaced the batteries with a new set, but with no effect. Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com original message From: Todd Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] What lens were you using? The MZ cameras, in auto flash mode with a F or FA lens attached, choose a shutter speed of 1/focal length as long as the focal length is =100mm, in order to let more ambient light into the picture. I would guess you were using a 50mm lens or a zoom at about 50mm? Todd _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Tom, The MZ-5 can display 100, in fact it can display all the valid speeds up to and including 2000. I'm hoping that the camera WAS using 1/100th but displaying 1/60th. I'm wondering if the film would have been properly exposed (ie, flash output over the whole film area) if the camera was operating at 1/60th. Would both shutter curtains be open simultaneously at 1/60th? I suppose they would. Of course, 1/60th sucks as a flash sync speed - 1/100th is bad enough. I'm surprised the MZ-S has a top speed of only 1/180, compared to the Z-1's 1/250. The MZ-S's high-speed sync with the new flash unit doesn't count for me, because of the type of photography I do - my subject is often 20, 30 or more feet away from me. When using high-speed sync, the guide number falls to virtually nothing! Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com --- original message --- From: Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that your camera is actually using 1/100 sec. but the dislay does not have that speed so it shows the next lower speed. - --graywolf _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:57:14 +1100, Anthony Farr wrote: That would be P-IV. There should be no Arabic numerals mixed into Roman numerals, after all the Romans didn't use Arabic numerals. Earlier Pentiums were P-I, P-II and P-III. Here endeth my pedantry for today. Maybe, but if you will look at the Intel logo for the P4, it is indeed, a 4, not IV :-) Okay, I'm off the soapbox. g Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
The Migrant Mother
Bob H. wrote: Another suit I recall hearing about a while back -- the woman who appeared in Dorothea Lange's famous photo, Migrant Mother (PDML reference, p. 599), sued years later, because the photo made her look poor and hopelessly destitute but she had become successful and entered the middle class, etc., so she was embarrassed. I believe she lost that suit, and I think that was a correct decision since the photo was historically accurate. I remember that one. She was essentially annoyed because she had never made a dime on the photograph. The trouble is, neither did Dorothea Lange, except indirectly. DL shot it for the FSA and it belongs to the Federal Government. You can buy a print of it for less that $100 on the L. of C. website right now if you want. ==Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Pug World
Dave B. wrote: With the list members truly covering the 4 corners of the world)its very interesting to see what the planet looks like at the same time(well a 2 hour window) Is it? I find it totally trivial and completely unsuited to photography's strengths. I've never cared a whit for those Day in the Life books, either. Just my opinion. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I carry all types of flashes with me. Since assignments won't be dragging me all over the place anymore, I get to choose. As noted, I shoot portraiture most times now and the strategically placed adjustable flash adding pops of manual flash will do when all the TTL flashes in the world won't. But then, that comes from my being comfortable and competent with manual flash. Well, now we have wireless P-TTL that can fire one or more flashes strategically located and utilize TTL. However, the whole point of portable, shoe mount flashes, is for more impromptu work where the spontaneity of automated TTL flash is valuable. I think if I were shooting portraiture assignments I would invest in some form of studio flash system and a good flash meter. But I repeat the question: how would ~you~ handle the situation I proposed? What's the formula to get a properly exposed shot with a broken 283 and a K1000, subject distance 11.5 feet? Offhand, I forget the guide number of the 283, mine blew up years ago, however, one would divide the distance into the guide number to get the f-stop. Cheers, Mike. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Pug World
The PUG has a synchronicity theme a couple of times a year. I don't see the point to it, in and of itself, although the photos are usually of interest. If you really want to see what the world looks like at a given time, here's one option: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap001127.html Dave B. wrote: With the list members truly covering the 4 corners of the world)its very interesting to see what the planet looks like at the same time(well a 2 hour window) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Upgrade
- Original Message - From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Computer Upgrade On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:57:14 +1100, Anthony Farr wrote: That would be P-IV. There should be no Arabic numerals mixed into Roman numerals, after all the Romans didn't use Arabic numerals. Earlier Pentiums were P-I, P-II and P-III. Here endeth my pedantry for today. Maybe, but if you will look at the Intel logo for the P4, it is indeed, a 4, not IV :-) Okay, I'm off the soapbox. g Later, Gary Yes it is a 4 but that does not make P1V any more correct. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF360FTZ - First Impressions
HI Max - I not familiar with battery boosters, so I can't comment on the first point. The AF360 uses 4 AA batteries, but the battery compartment is different than the AF500 in that it take 3 batteries in a row with #4 off to one side. In terms of cables - though the AF360 has a 5th pin (that is retracted when the flash is off mount) it still uses the FP5 cord and adapters that the other Pentax digital flashes use. It does not have a socket for the cord to plug into directly, unlike the AF500 or AF400. - MCC At 08:29 PM 11/29/01 +1300, you wrote: Mark Cassino wrote: but here's some first impressions: Mark, Thanks for that. Can you confirm that it has the same 6 volt battery booster capability, and cable fitting, the same as the 500 FTZ's? Max - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ME Super - Black
I am having to sell the below MUCH loved setup due to financial situations. Please reply OFF-List to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. Black ME Super - No brassing. The only fault is that the hotshoe does not work. However, the PC socket works fine Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7 - Like New condition Pentax ME-II Winder - Works perfectly and looks the same Vivitar 283 - Complete with manual, SB-4 power adapter, VP-1 variable control adapter in excellent condition. I would really prefer to sell as a package. $350.00 plus shipping and insurance. I accept PayPal, cashiers checks, or money orders. Thanks, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Zeiss lenses for Pentax
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1300692156 Interesting. I've not seen one of these before. Anyone else using it/them? Reports? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Edith Keiler must die. -- Spock, 1930 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
In a message dated 12/1/01 11:34:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, now we have wireless P-TTL that can fire one or more flashes strategically located and utilize TTL. The assumption being everyone (who can afford it) will own a P-TTL camera/flash. I only engage in this exercise about flash to see what people are doing and shooting. Remember, PDML or any camera list members may own 4-5 flashes of various types while our friend Joe (Six-pack) doesn't own any, unless we count the tiny built-in pip-squeak on his PS. As for (manual) studio flash: I'd venture that without their light meters, most studio shooters don't know diddly about shooting manual flash, which is, of course, what they do, but with light and color meters. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Illegal Street Photography?
In a message dated 12/1/01 2:06:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The seatbelt would have not made any difference, IMHO. Of course it mattered. The bodyguard sitting in front of her was wearing a seat-belt. Though he suffered grievous injuries about the head, chest and face, he is alive and working at his craft. Wearing a seat belt, Di might have only suffered bruising and to a lesser degree than the bodyguard. Without a seat belt, her 110 pound body became an 85mph missile slamming into an immovable object. Someone more brilliant that me should do the math but that much soft tissue hitting a stationary object at 85mph had to be generating tons of force on impact. Death was instantaneous and guaranteed. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ME Super - Black
I am having to sell the below MUCH loved setup due to financial situations. Please reply OFF-List to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. Black ME Super - No brassing. The only fault is that the hotshoe does not work. However, the PC socket works fine Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7 - Like New condition Pentax ME-II Winder - Works perfectly and looks the same Vivitar 283 - Complete with manual, SB-4 power adapter, VP-1 variable control adapter in excellent condition. I would really prefer to sell as a package. $350.00 plus shipping and insurance. I accept PayPal, cashiers checks, or money orders. Thanks, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
i have the pz1p broucher in front of me and it says the spot meter reads 2.5% of the scene. Received: from smtpin-102-7.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.44) by storefull-163.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-7.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 188C912B; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:34:10 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from noc002.aitg.com (noc002.aitg.com [216.32.91.72]) by smtpin-102-7.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 3F537190 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by noc002.aitg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA09887 for pentax-discuss-pdml-list; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx8.airmail.net (mx8.airmail.net [209.196.77.105]) by noc002.aitg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA09881 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:15:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from covert.black-ring.iadfw.net ([209.196.123.142]) by mx8.airmail.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #10) id 16ADjY-000FAK-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 01 Dec 2001 11:15:24 -0600 Received: from ppp02-246.algx.iadfw.net from [207.136.21.246] by covert.black-ring.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.55) with smtp for [EMAIL PROTECTED] sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 11:16:44 -0600 (CST) From: John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shooting holiday lights Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 11:12:19 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.553 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by noc002.aitg.com id MAA09883 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:21:44 -0800, you wrote: Does your camera have a 1-degree spot meter, John? No. It's the PZ1p, which spot meters a larger percentage. The manual doesn't specify, but I seem to recall the PZ1p spot meter is at least 4 degree and possibly 6. With the 50mm lens I had on the camera, the spot meter circle covered a fairly large area. It's really simple to meter lights. You point the meter at the light source, the reading will put the source at mid grey. Then open up one, two or three stops, depending on the effect you want. Thanks for the nice, simple explanation. I've not heard anyone state it better. My spot metering has been limited to one pretty specific type of photography. I use it with lenses 300mm and longer while trying to photograph birds and other small wildlife at a distance of maybe thirty feet or less. I use spot-metering to help avoid exposure errors that Matrix or Center Weight or the different reflectivity values of different colors would allow to occur in any sort of Auto mode. I choose an area where the light is the same as the light falling on my potential subject, spot meter a green or blue or some other section known to be close to 18% gray, lock in my Tv/Av, then keep that setting as long as the light at that area does not change significantly. This prevents underexposure of the subject, would happen if I were in Auto mode and the subject flew out of the bush and across the sky, or across an area with a significantly lighter background or some sort of backlighting. My method assumes, of course, that I prefer a proper exposure on the subject and don't mind blowing out the background highlights, and that the general diffuse light falling on the subject remains the same as it moves around my selected area. Thanks for the nice list of reflectivity percentages. I'll remember it. I'll stick a long lens on and spot meter some solid colors just to see how my PZ1p meters various colors, then compare my results to the list. Spot metering is, as you said, not hard, but it is different - and the brain work involved is not always second nature to me. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Artur, I think it is a problem if the camera shoots at, say, 1/30th, because at that speed the ambient light will affect the final photo, almost regardless of what aperture I set. It's quite possible to have a situation where there isn't enough light to shoot at 1/500th, which means I have to use flash, but there's too much ambient light to shoot at 1/30th, because I would have severe camera shake. I have this problem even when the flash sync is correctly set to 1/100th. I do usually drag a tripod with me, but my subject matter is usually too dynamic to allow me to make much use of it, which is why I do most of my shooting handheld. Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com - - Original Message - Thanks for this idea, but actually, I was using a Tokina 150-500mm A lens, at the 500mm end Come on:) With the focal length of 500 mm it actually doesn't matter if the camera chooses to shoot at 1/100, 1/60 or 1/30 - in terms of sharpness of one's pics, of course. You should use a tripod/monopod anyway... But it DOES affect balance between the flash light and the ambient light, especially in case of slower films... Greetz Artur _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Odp: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Artur Ledóchowski wrote: AFAIK, the flash freezes movement, no matter what the shutter speed is set. As long, as the shutter speed is set to a medium value (1/30 - 1/60) and the photographer uses a standard lens or standard zoom ( like 35-80 or so), there is no problem getting sharp pics... Ah, but there is. Subject blur can show up even when the flash is used; it depends on the ratio between ambient light and flash. A touch of fill flash is not necessarily enough to freeze all movement if the shutter speed is in the 1/15-1/60 range. It's not bad if you can hold the camera steady, but not everyone can. I've seen some bad shots taken with the MZ-7 lately because the user didn't have steady hands, and the ambient exposure at 1/30 or 1/45 resulted in some fuzzy pics, even with the built-in flash used. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pushing black and white film
I will check Monday morning with the Camera Exchange here in San Antonio and see about sizes and cost and get back to you. I need to pick up some for myself as well. Ken On Saturday 01 December 2001 14:40, you wrote: Just a brief update on my push processing test. My local pro shop has informed me that there is no Canadian distributor for Acufine/Diafine developer. If one of the Americans on the list would like to have the pleasure of shipping some white powder internationally, I would be much appreciative. Please respond privately, I will reimburse all costs. Thanks William Robb -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: shooting holiday lights
Thanks Tom and Shel.Its my next purchase Dave Begin Original Message From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 07:23:48 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shooting holiday lights It's also available on line here: http://www.blackrabbit.com/kodak.htm You might also want to browse through the site as there are a few other very well-regarded books on photography there. Meehan's guide to filters is one that is quite worthwhile: http://www.blackrabbit.com/photo7.htm Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Dave, any bookstore should be able to get it for you. I got my current copy from a local camera store. It is called: Kodak Pocket Photoguide. fourth edition. 2001. Publication AR-21. ISBN 0-07985-807-9 $14.95 US $21.95 Can Published under license by : Silver Pixel Press 21 Jet View Drive Rochester, NY 14624 USA http://www.silverpixelpress.com -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Exposure Difference: SMC-A 50/2.0, SMC-M 135/3.5, SMC-M 200/4
I wanted to see how sharp a picture my ZX-M could take with my three lenses. I have a 50mm f/2.0 SMC-A, a 135mm f/3.5 SMC-M and a 200mm f/4.0 SMC-M. I used Elite Chrome 200, mounted the camera on a tripod and shot a section of brick wall with each lens. They were all of the same section of wall so the distances were approximately 4 feet, 10 feet and 15 feet respectively. I set the aperture to f/8 and let the meter determine shutter speed, which showed in the viewfinder as 1/15 second. The good news is that all the pictures were sharp from edge to edge and in the corners. Also, I bracketed focus just a small nudge too shallow and a small nudge too deep on each shot and the slides with the correct focus was the sharpest, although the differences were pretty small and in some cases indistinguishable (since I was at f/8, I suppose). The bad news is that the exposures were not the same. The shot at 50mm was a perfectly exposed slide. The shot at 135mm was just a tiny bit darker, barely perceptible. The shot at 200mm was noticably darker than the other two. Now I know that my SMC-A lens let the camera use matrix metering on the 50mm shot. But both the 135mm and 200mm ones used the center-weighted metering since they are pre-A lenses, right? If I weren't comparing the 50mm and 135mm slides side by side on a light table they would each look well exposed but the 200mm one is not a well-exposed slide, it looks dark. The 135mm and 200mm lenses were purchased used through KEH and the 200mm one was a bargain that has no marks on the glass but you can tell it's been around the block a time or two exterior-appearance-wise. So is it possible that its aperture setting is off by a half or two-thirds of a stop? How should I try to test that further? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:Cotty's Pentax Mods December update posted...
At 19:36 1-12-2001 -0500, you wrote: From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cotty's Pentax Mods December update posted... Very interesting, Richard! I think I may have caught one small error--in America thumb tack and push-pin are two different things--the thumb tack a short tack with a flat, circular metal head, and the push-pin a short tack with a molded plastic head that is possible to get a grip on between thumb and forefinger. We call the flat metal ones thumb tacks too. Sorry, I've not had a chance to check out the linguistics web site yet (just git in from a kid's Christmas party). In UK the above thumb tack is known as a 'drawing pin'. Please don't ask me why... Cotty It's because it's for pinning drawings up, of course! (honest!) Wendy --- Wendy Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
At 19:36 1-12-2001 -0500, you wrote: From: Richard Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed! Of course, 1/60th sucks as a flash sync speed Me and my MX have never been particularly bothered by it. Then again, I don't use flash that often anyway. The thing uses 4xAA batteries and somebody's usually nicked them for their gameboy or whatever. Wendy --- Wendy Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: developing Leonid shots
- Original Message - From: John Mustarde Subject: Re: developing Leonid shots On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:25:06 -0600, you wrote: Unfortunately, often the entire film is clear space, with no visible frame delineation. This happens a lot with pictures such as meteor showers, fireworks and theatre/ concerts. We just give the film back to the custome uncut, hand them sissors and sleeving and let them do it themselves on the light table. So if the photographer shot the first frame with something clearly visible, could one measure and manually cut the succeeding frames fairly accurately? In theory, yes, in all likelyhood, no. If the first and 5th frames were sufficiently exposed to show frame edges, in practice, yes, providing your camera actually advances the film the ISO standard distance (I believe this is 38.5mm, but I could be wrong). William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotted on eBay
Probably the best way to do it, but I was using eBay's iPix service and it automatically uploads the pictures for you, so there was no URL for my pictures, they were tied to my auction. I was just trying to get everything listed by this weekend as I'm out of town next weekend and I wanted to get this wrapped up before I left. And yes, thanks for the publicity...the check is in the mail. I sent it via [EMAIL PROTECTED]:) John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Spotted on eBay Probably best to put the url so at least it *looks* like you tried to upload them. Hey, think of all the free publicity Cotty, Mark, and I have generated for you. That'll be $20, please Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dec PUG comments
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Dec PUG comments William Robb - Berries - Very vibrant colors and great contrast between the blue berries and the red stems. What kind of Ivy is that? Thanks Bob, my wife says that is a Virginia Creeper. Its pretty vibrant, though not quite as bright as the picture suggests. Royal 200 is a pretty over saturated film. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
In a message dated 12/1/01 8:30:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Dave, any bookstore should be able to get it for you. I got my current copy from a local camera store. It is called: Kodak Pocket Photoguide. fourth edition. 2001. Publication AR-21. ISBN 0-07985-807-9 $14.95 US $21.95 Can I'm wondering when the guide went on sale. Through 1997, it was a part of the literature my KODAK freely dealer passed out? Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My PUG Picks
At 04:43 1/12/01, you wrote: My fav's this month are in no particular order: Byford Trials by Jon Hope, Australia http://pug.komkon.org/01dec/trial.html It seems a number of Aussies were up early on a Sunday morning with b/w film. There did seem to be a few of us out with b+w film that particular Sunday. I had a look in my cameras this morning and found both are loaded with Fuji Press 800. C'est La Vie. Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Viruses Worms Everywhere
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Anthony Farr wrote: I've seen this kind of address on some spam e-mails, and I've read that they are sent directly into your mail reader while online, rather than being downloaded from your ISP's mail server. That's why they have the strange address details. Just what I read but as I have no effing idea how email works I'd probably believe anything I read :) It's the Badtrans virus. More details available from any anti-virus site. It comes with an executable program which pretends to be a Word document and does something to the registry. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotted on eBay
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Mark Roberts wrote: And what, exactly, is that particular lazy person selling? Tokina makes a 28-70/2.6-2.8 as well as a 28-80/2.8... but they don't make a 28-70/2.8 Yes they do - I'm holding on in my hand right now. It's an ok lens, usually available quite cheaply for about 20-30% of the cost of the Pentax FA* 28-70. It's a very fast auto-focusing lens as the range from close-focus to infinity is only about 90 degrees of rotation. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
Well, I know all about guide numbers, but what happens if the battery in my calculator goes dead? --graywolf - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:35 PM Subject: Re: flash stuff In a message dated 12/1/01 11:34:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, now we have wireless P-TTL that can fire one or more flashes strategically located and utilize TTL. The assumption being everyone (who can afford it) will own a P-TTL camera/flash. I only engage in this exercise about flash to see what people are doing and shooting. Remember, PDML or any camera list members may own 4-5 flashes of various types while our friend Joe (Six-pack) doesn't own any, unless we count the tiny built-in pip-squeak on his PS. As for (manual) studio flash: I'd venture that without their light meters, most studio shooters don't know diddly about shooting manual flash, which is, of course, what they do, but with light and color meters. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Illegal Street Photography?
On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Cotty wrote: The lack of a seat belt killed Lady Di, not the driver or the Paparazzi. The seatbelt would have not made any difference, IMHO. Well, her bodyguard survived and he was wearing a seatbelt... he was the only one who survived and the only one wearing a seatbelt. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
- Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse Subject: Re: flash stuff Well, I know all about guide numbers, but what happens if the battery in my calculator goes dead? Really, Tom, you don't carry a slide rule? WW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Good deal on PZ-1p, lens, and flash....
Here's an ad for a Pentax PZ-1p, 28-70 power zoom lens, AF500FTZ flash, and off-camera cable system. Seems like a good deal at $430 US. http://www.photo.net/gc/view-one?classified_ad_id=456831 --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
No, and I wear mittens, so I can only count to four. --graywolf - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:46 AM Subject: Re: flash stuff - Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse Subject: Re: flash stuff Well, I know all about guide numbers, but what happens if the battery in my calculator goes dead? Really, Tom, you don't carry a slide rule? WW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
- Original Message - From: Tom Rittenhouse Subject: Re: flash stuff No, and I wear mittens, so I can only count to four. If you put some mitten prints in the snow, you can count higher. Just a thought William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: flash stuff
In a message dated 12/2/01 12:02:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I know all about guide numbers, but what happens if the battery in my calculator goes dead? --graywolf It would be just your luck your pen ran out of ink right about then or your pencil broke or the only paper around was wet or there was no wet sand around or Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: exposure comp question
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: exposure comp question i read a nice piece on metering light in a recent outdoor photography magazine. the thurst of the article was that to fully rely upon light meters, was to average the light to an acceptable 18% gray scale. A good, predictable light meter looks at everything, no matter what colour or intensity as 18% gray. Very few meters actually do this. The Zone VI modified Pentax Spot Meter (on topic content) is the only meter I am aware of that is actually reliably accurate. the suggestion was to use exposure compensation to move away from this averaging effect of light meters suggested that photographers make decisions about the use of light rather than let their light meters make those decisions. This is a good bit of advice. Blind faith in technology leads to bad experiences. using colors as an example, the author stated that white needed actually +2 stops of light to get what we think of as white (rather than the averaged 18% gray). he also suggested pink, yellow, lime, sky blue, lavendar and tan needed +1 stop over the meter. Harrum. Well, I suppose if all you shoot is slide film, +2 stops might work for white. It will certainly lead to a weak colour negative, and a definitely underexposed black and white negative; of this I am sure. What shade of pink, yellow, lime, sky blue, lavendar and tan was he referring to? I feel a rant coming on.. Might have to open another bottle of wine for this one.. OK, Here we go: If you don't know haw YOUR meter will react to various colours and intensities, you really have no idea about what sort of exposures you are getting. You don't know if you are optimizing the films abilities to record the subject. It is quite amusing, actually. We all meter carefully, that small spot that we have decided is the key element of our photograph, and if we are clever, we assign to it a Zone. I am guilty of this myself, to be sure. The brightest part of a cloud that I can still barely see detail in is Zone VIII. That is what I base my meter reading on. Other people use Zone 2 or 3. Neither is right, or wrong. I find I can decide what is brightest easier than what is darkest is all. However, that is only part of it. That is called exposure range. Do you know if your meter is truly linear? It may read EV 6 correctly, but how does it do with EV 16? What about if the colour isn't actually a permutation of gray? What if it is green? Or blue? What if it is blue, and you want to use a red filter? And what does your film think of all this? Is it colour and exposure linear? Have you tested all this? No? Harrummm!!! Neither have I. Here is the thing: If you are shooting negative film, when in doubt, open up another stop. And learn from it. If you are shooting chrome, and you are unsure, stop down a third stop. And pray. Or. go out and see what your equipment, with the film you shoot, with the lab you use, and the way they like to print, does with a picture. If ypu shoot slides, it is easier, but harder as well. Easier to see what you have done wrong, harder to make it better. And if you shoot black and white, and process it yourself, well there is no hope for you at all. I don't know of any black and white guys who are satisfied that they are getting as much out of their film as they can. my question is: You had a question???VBG how do i achieve these goals using my exposure compensation? Depends on the camera, some use a dial. my pentax zx-m has an exp comp ring. if i want white and desire +2 stops of light, -do i turn the ring to +2 to add 2 stops? This seems logical. But do you truly want +2 stops? o you want more? Or less? And how have you determined this? Is it a guess? Or intuition (an educated guess)? Or is it based on a solid knowledge of how your film/meter/eye integrate? or -do i turn the ring to -2 to compensate for the metering and effectively add 2 stops? Wrong. + adds light. - subtracts light. Light works just like numbers. This is why we speak of light in terms of numbers. Except like works like logarithms. Don't you wish you had paid more attention in school now? thanks in advance to any who care to share their thoughts, opinions or experience. Are you sure about that? be well I'm fine now. I will surely not be in the morning though, William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
In a message dated 12/1/01 10:59:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was guaranteed, but it wasn't instantaneous. She was talking to some of her rescuers and was still alive when she reached the hospital. There was just nothing that could be done, is all. So you might say she was doomed to die from the moment of impact. --Mike Sorry Mike, she never talked to anyone. More urban rumors. We've all heard she asked about her children or talked to the ambulance attendants or said: tell me-mums I love her... Didn't happen. She died on impact, arteries torn from her heart. She was ~not~ alive as people tried to get her out. The only one alive (or concious) was the bodyguard; driver, Dodi and Di, all dead. What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing to do with her death. She died only because she hit the back of the front seat at 85mph. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
need help with vivitar flash!
Hello, I was wondering if anynone might be able to help me with my flash. I bought a Vivitar thyrisistor 2800 flash awhile back, and I don't have instructions for it, and I conveniently forgot what its functions are. On the front of the flash there is a three position switch, where the three choices are: Blue Dot, M, Red Dot. On the back there are red and blue lines pointing to certain apertures on the flash exposure chart. I'm a bit confused on how to use the functions, and until I drag my butt down to the used camera shop to find an instruction manual, I was hoping someone might be able to enlighten me? Any help would be great! thanks geordie victoria, bc - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
Sorry Bob. - Original Message - From: Mafud Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: Re: OT OT OT What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing to do with her death. She died only because she hit the back of the front seat at 85mph. Why was she in that particular situation? Answer carefully, because why she was in a car going 85mph through a tunnel in Paris is very germaine to why she died. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT OT OT
At 15:28 2/12/01, you wrote: Sorry Bob. - Original Message - From: Mafud Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: Re: OT OT OT What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing to do with her death. She died only because she hit the back of the front seat at 85mph. Why was she in that particular situation? That one is easy. She hit the seat in front of her because she wasn't wearing a seat belt. Answer carefully, because why she was in a car going 85mph through a tunnel in Paris is very germaine to why she died. Different question. I'm afraid I am of the opinion that they got their just deserts. They alone decided on the course of action that cost them their lives. The same argument (as blaming the paparazzi for chasing them) is used here regarding police chasing stolen vehicles. The argument goes that if the police didn't chase the stolen cars then the people driving the stolen cars wouldn't do stupid and highly dangerous things like drive on the wrong side of the freeway, usually at night sans head lights. It is always those that decide upon a course of action that are responsible for the outcome of those actions. In the case of a car crashing into a tunnel at 140 kph, the only people influencing the driver were the occupants of the car. The resposibilty for the car being driven into a tunnel at 140 kph resides with the driver, and anyone telling him to drive at that speed. Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
