Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
> Something is wrong with your minivans. I've had two Ford Windstars and get > 18-19 mpg now... was 17mpg with the old one. Cruising at 79-85mph we got 200 miles between 20 gallon fills - there were some high speed bits, I wasn't driving > And there is nowhere in the USA where you can cruise at 110mph in a sportscar > let alone a van. Furthermore, the tires will not stand up to the punishment. > About as fast as we cruise is 75mph or 120 Kph. I believe one state has no posted maximum limit? And the deserted interstates at night are similar to the european motorways (trans europe I regularly hit cruise at 130-150 mph). Cars in the US I agree are built for lower speeds, especially with those hard cross-ply tyres... The other thing to remember is that long distance travel in the US is easy by air, for the UK / EU we don't have brilliant or low cost air links. > The difference in your fuel prices is all tax. It keeps your countrymen in > the cities and on public transportation rather than roaming about the > countryside. Yep! And of course free healthcare, a good welfare system etc. I'm not complaining, just showing a cultural difference! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
> Having driven there last year, with a full size van (15-17 mpg) at about > 90-100 mph, I was "blown by" by a couple of sports cars like I was standing > still. Can't vouch for the speed at which they were traveling, but on a dry, > sunny summer day, I'd guess they were in the 120+ range. I would love to get my Rover (140mph) or my colleagues Audi (154mph) over there - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Illegal Street Photography?
Graywolf wrote: > Most folk are leary ot being photographed when they are knowingly breaking > the law. I would say, purely as a seat of the pants judgment, that photographers I've known or heard of have had far more difficulty with private citizens and lawbreakers than with the police. Difficulties with police sometimes center on where you can put your car when you're stopping to take a picture. On most American freeways, for instance, you're not ALLOWED to stop and smell the roses. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX with LX screens, elaboration requested.
Sort of like cross-hairs in a gun scope. Collin --- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My memory may be wrong, but I thought there was a clear screen with >crosshair available for the MX. Yes they did and I've got one! - -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SUVs
Mafud wrote: > SUVs would best serve the country as: 1. Landfill and/or 2. stripped down, > degreased then dropped in ponds to provide habitat for fishes. GO MAFUD!! Lol! --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SUVs
Paul G. wrote: > Just a little correction here, in most states you can't drive a sports car, > or any car, at 120 mph, but...in Wyoming there is no speed limit other than > "reasonable and prudent." > > Having driven there last year, with a full size van (15-17 mpg) at about > 90-100 mph, I was "blown by" by a couple of sports cars like I was standing > still. Can't vouch for the speed at which they were traveling, but on a dry, > sunny summer day, I'd guess they were in the 120+ range. I think Montana only has a speed limit at night. During daylight hours you can drive as fast as you want to. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Print Challenge (printer ratings)
Graywolf wrote: > 2. That inkjet printers can do far better than I had reason to believe. I > honestly did not think that any inkjet could produce a print I would have > rated an F. The fact that not only can they, but that one a couple of > generations old did it, is admazing. A 1270 isn't really a previous generation. It's true that it's been superceded by the 1280, but the image quality difference is so minimal that testers are having a hard time detecting it, and lots of 1270 owners are not considering upgrading. Also, if anyone wants to be amazed by what the current generation of digital p/s can do, check out the new Nikon 5000. Pretty amazing little camera. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Books
Mike Johnston wrote >Mark R. wrote: >> I learned that you can request a >> personal viewing of any of the photos in the book. There's no charge for >> this; you just have to arrange it in advance and they'll set up a private >> viewing. > >Really? Is that through your friend? I thought you had to demonstrate >scholarly credentials to gain access to the GEH collection. Or is this >something special specifically for the pictures in the book? Didn't get the details at the time. I'll find out. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Print Challenge (printer ratings)
You apparently missed that F grade for the 1200. Paul Mike Johnston wrote: > Graywolf wrote: > > > 2. That inkjet printers can do far better than I had reason to believe. I > > honestly did not think that any inkjet could produce a print I would have > > rated an F. The fact that not only can they, but that one a couple of > > generations old did it, is admazing. > > A 1270 isn't really a previous generation. It's true that it's been > superceded by the 1280, but the image quality difference is so minimal that > testers are having a hard time detecting it, and lots of 1270 owners are not > considering upgrading. > > Also, if anyone wants to be amazed by what the current generation of digital > p/s can do, check out the new Nikon 5000. Pretty amazing little camera. > > --Mike > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Illegal Street Photography?
I wonder if any of you ever saw my brother's photo shoot from Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory that was used for a story in Esquire many years ago. They couldn't get any of their staff photographers to sign on to do it (it was during the Dr. Lee atomic secrets to China investigation). They didn't want photos of secure areas or anything but they needed photos to go with a story about the case. So they called a couple of people they knew in New Mexico who recommended my brother as someone who might do it. He held out for double his normal hourly rate (which he said was probably less than they paid their own staff guys). At the time the facility was still an open base except for the security forces that drove around in the black SUVs. He got them to sign also for any bail/legal fees if he got caught. He borrowed a friend's full size Blazer, his partner's Nikon F4 (he shoots large format) and rented a Nikon 800/5.6 lens. Wandered all over the facility shooting pics while keeping the lens inside the vehicle. Got passed by the security forces several times. Send the photos in, got paid, and the article came out. Then about a week later he got a visit from the FBI. They didn't want to arrest him unless he had shot photos of either secure areas or people with security clearances. So he showed them the photos which he had done. He specifically avoided doing that anyway having grown up in a military family. Only other thing they asked before they left was how he did it. After that security procedures changed down there. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Johnston Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Illegal Street Photography? Cotty wrote: > I filmed on a Hungarian airbase in the early 90s, and boy were THEY > touchy ! If you ever happen to see a trucker hosing out a tanker at a truckstop on the American Interstate system, try to take some pictures of him. Chances are you'll wish you were in Greece. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Which 100 mm Macro?
I'll agree on that. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Mustarde Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 8:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which 100 mm Macro? On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:16:29 -0500, you wrote: >The 100/3.5 is a rebadged Cosina. Same as the Vivitar, Phoenix, Samyang, and >several other names. Cheap. Not too bad compared to a normal lens but not up >to any of the main builder's own macro lenses. >Kent Gittings > I thought the Vivitar 100/3.5 AF Macro was the same as the Pentax version (except the Vivitar includes the 1:1 two-element diopter, and cost much less than the Pentax-badged lens.) There are so many fine 100mm macro lenses out there. The Vivitar won't knock any of them off the top of the hill, but it is no dog either. I'd venture to say it is "the best 100mm 1:1 Macro lens in Pentax AF that sells for under $140 new." And it comes with a 5-year warranty ;-) -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Which 100 mm Macro?
I've got one in PK and I like it a lot. Also got a Tamron 90/2.5 and I like that one also. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which 100 mm Macro? Again, I have to put my vote to the Vivitar Series 1 105mm f2.5 macro. Out of the box it does 1:1 without any attachments Christian Skofteland - Original Message - From: "John Mustarde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I thought the Vivitar 100/3.5 AF Macro was the same as the Pentax > version (except the Vivitar includes the 1:1 two-element diopter, and > cost much less than the Pentax-badged lens.) > > There are so many fine 100mm macro lenses out there. The Vivitar won't > knock any of them off the top of the hill, but it is no dog either. > I'd venture to say it is "the best 100mm 1:1 Macro lens in Pentax AF > that sells for under $140 new." > > And it comes with a 5-year warranty ;-) > > -- > John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
No its so bright they call it the sunny 32 rule. :^) Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Juan J. Buhler Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 8:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, aimcompute wrote: > If converted at 100% > efficiency, the energy falling on 1 square mile of Arizona desert in a > 24-hour period, could power the USA for a year. Wow. Where is this place and does the sunny 16 rule apply there? :-) (sorry, couldn't resist) -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Clear MX screen
Hello I guess I am not sure what crosshair means. There might be some terminology problems also. I need matte screen but with no markings on the screen. Look at http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/screens/index.html This supposedly lists all the Penatx made LX and MX screens. The one I was looking at was the SE-60 "Plain Matte Field". This is a modern, brighter LX screen, that someone just advised against using in MXs. Of course it is possible that someone else made plain or clear screens for the MX, this site only lists the Pentax made screens. Can you give me the model number on the clear screen you have? Can someone please clarify what crosshair means? I would still appreciate any insight anyone has on screens in MX. What do you use, how does it work, how it effects lightmeter? etc. thx. L Levente -Levi- Littvay University of Nebraska-Lincoln -- PGP public key: http://www.kign.org/levilpub.asc Key fingerprint: 8BD8 3CE7 FB1D 625F F268 BFCE 417A C20C 92BF 6225 -- Download free PGP e-mail security software: http://www.pgpi.org/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
Actually the reason is business. Without a guaranteed quick return only the solar energy companies like Solarex can make a profit off the stuff. And don't think that pouring more R & D dollars will get the efficiency much over the low percentage conversions now available. NASA pays for extensive research and engineering projects in that area as space is still the number one priority for it. Not to mention the Sierra Club would most likely sue to keep all the solar panels from covering all the acreage you would need to make it work. Fusion would be a better solution so instead of trying to harness a small percentage of the sun's fusion it would be better just to do it here. Would save the large areas we'd have to chop down to cover with solar panels. My vote is to get all the commuters off the road into some kind of mass transit so those of us who enjoy high performance driving can have the roads all to ourselves. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? Funny Juan. Solar energy has always been a fascination of mine since about 7th grade. In 10th I did a Science Fair project using the phase change principle. A triangular shaped box made of insulated door material. The front had a double-paned glass door. Inside was black and suspended in it were about 10 aluminum tunes, also black. Inside each tube was Glauber's Salt, a solid, about 50% full. Glauber's Salt melts (liquefies) at about (if memory is correct) 96 degrees F. Upon cooling it recrystallizes (solidifies) and releases the stored heat. I had a fan on the upper back side that blew air out a vent in the bottom. I could get 80 - 90 air out of thing for 4-5 hours after recyrsatllization started. I ended up getting 3rd place in the district science fair. I think I answered a judge's question wrong. He asked me if I considered it a science project or an engineering project. I said science. I determined the next day I was wrong. About 10 years later, several mfr.'s. in the US came out with almost identical items, that were window boxes designed to be greenhouses. The Sun's energy is free,clean, and virtually unlimited. There's only one reason the necessary R&D hasn't been put into to making it available at a reasonable cost to most consumers, for almost any purpose. There's to many financial incentives at the time, not to do it. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Juan J. Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, aimcompute wrote: > > > If converted at 100% > > efficiency, the energy falling on 1 square mile of Arizona desert in a > > 24-hour period, could power the USA for a year. > > Wow. Where is this place and does the sunny 16 rule apply there? > > :-) > > (sorry, couldn't resist) > > > -- > -- - > Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com > -- - > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: December PUG comments
Tom C. wrote: > Blockiness... are you viewing this with a CRT or an LCD display? [Snip...] > I'm running 24-bit color on my laptop and 32-bit on the desktop > system. Maybe that's the difference. I didn't try running 24-bit on > the desktop. What bit depth are you running at? Hi Tom, Looks like it's my system. I've still got a first-generation Pentium at work, along with a cheap 15" NEC multi-sync monitor. (I think we're supposed to go through another upgrade cycle here next year.) Typically I'm running at a depth of only 16 bits. Looks much, much better when I view it at 32-bit depth. I kind of suspected that this might be the problem. Bill [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 59 lines] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: To Arms! To Arms!
No. And personally I'm not sure the Pentax is actually better. However the photos from both appear essentially indistinguishable. And even compared to the Minolta 80-200/2.8 HS G which is the one that most people who are not brand fanatics think is the best, I can't tell the difference in the photos. Some differences in build quality between the Sigmas and the cameras makers but the Sigma APO and APO EX pro lenses are extremely well built. Especially compared to their consumer lens reputation. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Waterson Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To Arms! To Arms! Mike Johnston wrote: > By the way, we all need to get over to photographyreview.com and post some > reviews of Pentax lenses. There are very few reviews posted, in the "35mm > Primes" section, anyway. For quality I dont see any difference in Sigma and PENTAX lenses, I am perhaps mistaken, but I do see a difference in price. I just priced a 70-200mm 2.8 constant AF lense and Sigma came in just under $2000.00 AUD while the PENTAX equivalent came in just of $5000.00 AUD Even if the PENTAX lens is better, is it $3000.00 better? Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Variable aperture zoom question
Could you help settle a debate? Suppose I have a variable aperture zoom lens, say 28-80mm f3.5-f5.6 If I set the zoom at 28mm, and set the aperture wide open, it should be f3.5. If I then zoom to 80mm, the effective aperture goes down to f5.6, right? And if I zoom to 50mm, the aperture will be somewhere in between, say f4 maybe. Now suppose I set my zoom to 50mm @ f8. If I zoom out to 28mm, will the effective aperture stay at f8? If I zoom in to 80mm, will the effective aperture stay at f8? In other words, how can I tell if I'll really get f8 when I set it to f8? Thanks, Mike Nosal - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: SUV's and the like
The Renault doesn't meet North American clean air standards. Or Renault hasn't bothered to get it tested to see if it would pass is the more likely problem. Importing any car that was never sold here is a problem. Of course you could have brought a vintage Renault R5 rally car. I had a late friend John Kelly (raced with Bob Tullius's Group 44 team) who until his death a few years ago drove one on the street. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wendy beard Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: SUV's and the like Permission to go off on one too? When we moved over to Canada in July, we weren't allowed to bring our 1.8 litre, less than two year old, petrol sipping Renault with us - because - "It doesn't conform with the North American Standard" i.e. The engine size is less than 4 litre, it weighs less than 4000kg and does more than 8 gallons to the mile What we _were_ allowed to import was a 1977 triumph stag with a +/- 3 litre engine that runs on high octane leaded fuel. (and weighs about twice as much as the Renault) And what choice did we have when wanting to buy a replacement here? Dobbin' big people carriers or pickup trucks.with automatic transmission Ideal for snowy, icy conditions, I don't think. Or maybe it doesn't snow in Canada?? Having aired that, I'm off to beddy bo bos night all, Wendy - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
Some of us have seen how good your free health care is. Not! Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim S Kemp Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? > Something is wrong with your minivans. I've had two Ford Windstars and get > 18-19 mpg now... was 17mpg with the old one. Cruising at 79-85mph we got 200 miles between 20 gallon fills - there were some high speed bits, I wasn't driving > And there is nowhere in the USA where you can cruise at 110mph in a sportscar > let alone a van. Furthermore, the tires will not stand up to the punishment. > About as fast as we cruise is 75mph or 120 Kph. I believe one state has no posted maximum limit? And the deserted interstates at night are similar to the european motorways (trans europe I regularly hit cruise at 130-150 mph). Cars in the US I agree are built for lower speeds, especially with those hard cross-ply tyres... The other thing to remember is that long distance travel in the US is easy by air, for the UK / EU we don't have brilliant or low cost air links. > The difference in your fuel prices is all tax. It keeps your countrymen in > the cities and on public transportation rather than roaming about the > countryside. Yep! And of course free healthcare, a good welfare system etc. I'm not complaining, just showing a cultural difference! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
My remembrance of Mighty Mouse is that it was the first program my sister and I watched on the family's first color TV. Hey, I'm not that old am I? Not only was it the first color TV, but it was also the furniture style. I still recall my sister and I mesmerized with all the blues and of course realizing the bright color of Mighty Mouse's costume! César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida P.S. I don't recall ever dreaming about Mighty Mouse though:-) > -Original Message- > From: aimcompute [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT, and ridiculous...was: Re: flash stuff > > John, > > Mighty Mouse was a hero of sorts. When I was about six, I had a dream > that > I was Mighty Mouse. I was standing on a chimney top with my arms > outstretched yelling "Here I come to save the day!". > > Then Mighty Mouse flew by and slapped me in the face for lying. I still > remember it like the night I dreamed it. > > My secret is out... > > Tom C. > > > > > Mighty Mouse. > > > > The one and only. > > > > He'll be on the PDML channel next Friday. > > > > Hr he comes to save the day... > > > > -- > > John Mustarde > > - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Clear MX screen
That usually means you need one of the screens designed for astro/microphotography. Screens usually come in both clear ground glass and clear non-ground glass. The might have either a simple circle in the middle or some kind of scale. I've owned at least one of the LX ones which was an SC-21 or SC-11 I think. Microprism screens don't work for focus under those conditions so you use a screen without one that transmits as much light through as possible to aid in getting a real focus. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LeviL Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Clear MX screen Hello I guess I am not sure what crosshair means. There might be some terminology problems also. I need matte screen but with no markings on the screen. Look at http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/screens/index.html This supposedly lists all the Penatx made LX and MX screens. The one I was looking at was the SE-60 "Plain Matte Field". This is a modern, brighter LX screen, that someone just advised against using in MXs. Of course it is possible that someone else made plain or clear screens for the MX, this site only lists the Pentax made screens. Can you give me the model number on the clear screen you have? Can someone please clarify what crosshair means? I would still appreciate any insight anyone has on screens in MX. What do you use, how does it work, how it effects lightmeter? etc. thx. L Levente -Levi- Littvay University of Nebraska-Lincoln -- PGP public key: http://www.kign.org/levilpub.asc Key fingerprint: 8BD8 3CE7 FB1D 625F F268 BFCE 417A C20C 92BF 6225 -- Download free PGP e-mail security software: http://www.pgpi.org/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S Review
For those who may not be aware of it, there's a pretty good Internet review of the MZ-S here: http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/pentax_mzs.html --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT enquiry Canada
Hello folks. Could you help us out? Is there a good resource online where we might be able to discover if an address in Canada is a PO Box address, or not? Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Off-Topic Proliferation
Is it just me, or has anybody else noticed that just as soon as we stopped talking about off-topic posts and "censorship," OT posts seemed to proliferate wildly around here? I'm not saying this in judgment--just an observation. (I'm also not saying I haven't been guilty of it myself, because I've contributed my share.) --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SUVs
In Montana there is some officer discretion as to public safety matters. A Geo going 80+ (if it could) would certainly get pulled over. Collin - Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 07:27:22 -0600 From: Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: SUVs I think Montana only has a speed limit at night. During daylight hours you can drive as fast as you want to. - --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash meter
Minolta Flash Meter IV - look for one second hand. Definitely hard to beat. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
Tom C. wrote: > Totally OT... Who here likes my ALL TIME FAVORITE series, "The Prisoner"? Oh man, Tom, don't get me started! I've found that I can get through just about any workplace situation with a few choice lines from that show -- usually Patrick McGoohan's lines, but sometimes the other characters as well. One of my favorite replies for annoying questions? "Questions are a burden to others, and a prison for one's self." (I think that was from the episode entitled, "A, B, and C", or something like that.) That was such a great show -- too bad it only lasted one season on American TV. Got to get back to work now. The new No. 2 is probably looking over my shoulder. Regards, No. 6 [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 61 lines] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 33
These are the conditions: 1 - You must answer off-list, right to me. 2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color and b and w) 3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc). 4 - You must have personal experience with it. WINNER by now: Tri-X and Velvia with 9 votes. Members: 93 COLOR Slide: Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2) Fuji Velvia (9) Agfa RSX II 50 (1) Kodak Kodachrome 64 (4) Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3) Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3) Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2) Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1) Fuji Sensia II 100 (3) Fuji Provia 100F (7) Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1) Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2) Fuji Provia 400F (1) COLOR Print: Konica Impressa 50 (1) Kodak Supra 100 (1) Kodak Royal 100 (1) Fuji Reala 100 (2) Agfa XRG 100 (1) Kodak Portra 160 NC (1) Fuji Superia 200 (1) Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1) Kodak Max 400 (1) Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1) Kodak Supra 400 (4) Fuji Press 400 (1) Fuji Superia 400 (1) Fuji NPH 400 (1) Kodak Portra 800 (1) Fuji Press 800 (3) Kodak PJC 1600 (1) BLACK AND WHITE: Agfapan APX 25 (2) Agfapan APX 100 (1) Ilford Pan F (2) Ilford Delta 100 (3) Kodak Plus-X (2) Ilford FP4 Plus (3) Agfa Scala 200x (1) Kodak Tri-X (9) Kodak T400 CN (1) Kodak Porta 400 BW (1) Fuji Neopan 400 (1) Agfa APX 400 (1) Ilford HP5 (1) Ilford XP2 (1) Konica VX 400 (1) INFRARED: Kodak HIE (1) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT enquiry Canada
Try the following: http://looktown.yellow.ca/ Cheers, Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hello folks. > >Could you help us out? Is there a good resource online where we might be able >to discover if an address in Canada is a PO Box address, or not? > >Kind regards > >Peter >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > >. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Variable aperture zoom question
Mike: > Suppose I have a variable aperture zoom lens, say 28-80mm > f3.5-f5.6 If I set the zoom at 28mm, and set the aperture wide > open, it should be f3.5. If I then zoom to 80mm, the effective > aperture goes down to f5.6, right? And if I zoom to 50mm, the > aperture will be somewhere in between, say f4 maybe. Right. > Now suppose I set my zoom to 50mm @ f8. > If I zoom out to 28mm, will the effective aperture stay at f8? > If I zoom in to 80mm, will the effective aperture stay at f8? Nope, in both cases (although my understanding is that the relative differences in aperture at different focal lengths diminish as one moves away from "wide open"). > In other words, how can I tell if I'll really get f8 when I set > it to f8? You can't, exactly (although at f/8 you'd probably be close enough if you were using print film). That's one reason why many of us Pentax dinosaurs prefer sticking to the ol' constant aperture zooms. The fact that, in general (with some exceptions, of course), most (typically older, often MF) constant aperture zooms are better built than most (typically newer, often AF) variable aperture zooms, is another reason for the dinosaurs amongst us. But I digress... In any event, if you're using TTL metering (which most of us use most of the time), then the exposure recommendation should automatically compensate for the variable aperture problem. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: SUV's and the like
Hi, Kent Gittings wrote: > > The Renault doesn't meet North American clean air standards. And the Stag does? Its _oil_ leaks probably pollute more than the Renault, although it pains me to say it and it is not intended as a slur on the maintenamce regime of the Beards. Is there any way this thread can get back on topic? Like me mentioning that I shoot vintage motorcycles with my Pentax gear? Probably not. mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax FAQ Looking For a Good Home !!!
I'd gladly host a mirror but I'm not quite qualified to do updates on equipment specs, theres alot of changes that has happened since then. --- Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had to change my web site's host service. > The bad news is that > the new host service charges for bandwidth as well > as for disk space > (I've never had to deal with that before), and the > bandwidth used by > both my freeware programs and the Pentax FAQ would > (if nothing were > done) cause me to pay considerably more per month > for the host service. > Unfortunately, unlike my shareware programs, neither > of these uses help > to pay for the host service costs, so "they've gotta > go" (elsewhere). > > A little history on the Pentax FAQ: Basically, the > FAQ had been > languishing for years, and in fact became > unavailable for a time a year > or two ago, and it looked like it might even be lost > (!!!). Someone > (sorry - I don't remember who) did have a copy of it > on his hard drive > and was able to send it to me, and I simply put it > on my own web site, > almost as is. I did make a few small changes, but > basically put it up on > my site about the way it was (which was about the > way it had remained > since the mid-90's, I think). I really didn't have > the desire or the > time to do much with it - I just put it on my site > to save it from loss > and to make it still available to all (even though > it was still in need > of much updating). > > So, I will need someone to take over the Pentax FAQ > hosting by adopting > the little orphan and giving the poor waif a loving > home (or at least a > home of some sort). The lucky sponsor would have to > have adequate > server space for it and adequate bandwidth, too (I > was surprised how > many hits the ol' site still got). > > There is no major hurry to make this transition, as > I have plenty of > room to keep it inactively on the server. But, > since I had to disable > it to keep from getting an extra bill for bandwidth > overage, the FAQ > will now be inaccessible until it finds a new home. > > I would prefer that it have some sort of a long-term > home, of course, > especially in the possession of someone intent on > updating and improving > the FAQ. > > The FAQ right now includes 103 files in 11 > directories, and involves > about 1 MB of info. (However, depending on the > cluster size on the hard > drive, it may need much more physical space for > storage - e.g., on the > Windows FAT32 hard drive that I have here, the > actual storage space is > over 3 MB.) Zipped up, it can be dispatched to its > new home as a 350 KB > file. > > Anybody interested? > > Fred > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SUVs
Discussion about SUVs tends to be oriented around lack of efficiency and energy consumption. That is, they're a luxury which should be controlled. So how much does the luxury of photography add to environmental pollution? Or, even less-noticed, the semiconductor industry? Those who target SUVs will, when their task is complete, just pick another target. Because the movers and shakers (not all of the followers) in this world view are from a Marxist persuasion. They hate things like private property and class success. As evidence I present the group that attacked the SUV dealership in the NW U.S. last year. Their own statement was not only with regard to vehicles, but to people in prison who have (wish I had the original words on hand on short notice) transcended our understanding of ownership and property. The world view behind the opponents of SUVs is more worrisome than SUVs themselves. jm2c, Collin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT enquiry Canada
www.canadapost.ca might be a place to try --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello folks. > > Could you help us out? Is there a good resource > online where we might be able > to discover if an address in Canada is a PO Box > address, or not? > > Kind regards > > Peter > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Variable aperture zoom question
My F zoom lenses appear to have a second mark (a green dot) on the aperture (not there on the primes) which would appear to align with the lower of the two f settings. My guess would be this is the real f stop for the opposite and of the range... e.g. an F 70-210 1:4-1:5.6 Main orange f stop mark is at f4 when the green dot is next to f 5.6. The orange mark is showing the f stop for 70mm and the green dot is showing it for 200mm. So it would follow that when the lens is zoomed in between those two focal lengths that the aperture would be somewhere in-between the two. Unless I am missing something this *must* be the case... I would say in order to get f8 you need use the lens like a prime (at one or other end of it's zoom range), and set the f8 against the corresponding mark for whichever end of the range you are using. Perhaps somebody else has a more definitive answer, as this is certainly only my best guess. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Off-Topic Proliferation
Yup... I certainly noticed it... It actually prompted me to put OT filters on my PDML mail, and even work out how to get Outlook to filter out postings from specific people,(not so easy as all PDML messages are from the same address). It's so much quieter and less inflammatory now... sweet bliss :0) Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: To Arms! To Arms!
>> By the way, we all need to get over to photographyreview.com and post some >> reviews of Pentax lenses. There are very few reviews posted, in the "35mm >> Primes" section, anyway. > >For quality I dont see any difference in Sigma and PENTAX lenses, I am >perhaps >mistaken, but I do see a difference in price. >I just priced a 70-200mm 2.8 constant AF lense and Sigma came in just under >$2000.00 AUD while the PENTAX equivalent came in just of $5000.00 AUD > >Even if the PENTAX lens is better, is it $3000.00 better? > >Kevin I paid about US$750-odd for the Sigma 70-200 2.8 at B and H in NYC. Well, my friend Margot did, before she visited us :-) Cheapest I've seen here in UK is about £599, although £699 is more usual. I wish I could afford the Pentax, sure. The Sigma's pretty dern good though. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: San Francisco trip
Thanks Everyone for the input about San Francisco trip, I think my first target would be China Town. I'll post pictures when I get back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Juan J. Buhler Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 5:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: San Francisco trip On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Bill Sullivan wrote: > stained glass ceiling. I would also suggest a walk down Maiden Lane which > runs east from Stockton St. at Union Square. Union Square and the stores > nearby should be nicely decorated at Christmas. Union Square has been closed for construction for all of 2001. I think they might open early 2002, I'm not sure. j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
How do you arrive at this conclusion? I've a couple of Pentax meters, both analog and digital, and they are both absolutely on the money. There's no "leakage" outside the metering spot in either of them. Frantisek Vlcek wrote: > ... so to get a 2 degree spotmetering (equal to Pentax > Spotmeter V, which is rated at 1 degree but IMHO internal > flare makes it ~two degree) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: SUV's and the like
On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 12:24 AM, wendy beard wrote: > Or maybe it doesn't snow in Canada?? HAR! You moved here in July? You'll see soon enough. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
In a message dated 12/4/01 1:56:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Besides i still think i take better film flash then digital flash. > > Dave > I agree Dave. Lag time between pushing the shutter release and actuall firing is, as you note-atrocious. Most under $500 digital flash gives you that: "shot in a dark room with ISO 100 film" look. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SUVs
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Those who target SUVs will, when their task is complete, just pick > another target. Because the movers and shakers (not all of the > followers) in this world view are from a Marxist persuasion. > They hate things like private property and class success. [...] ROTFLMAO! Hahhahaahahhhaahahaha! Honda Civics are anti-American! anti-SUV == marxist! Yor evidence is contundent: > As evidence I present the group that attacked the SUV dealership > in the NW U.S. last year. Their own statement was not only with > regard to vehicles, but to people in prison who have (wish I had > the original words on hand on short notice) transcended our > understanding of ownership and property. > > The world view behind the opponents of SUVs is more worrisome than > SUVs themselves. Watch out! We're coming after your MZ-S next! We'll replace it with a K1000 that you'll have to check out from the community equipment case every time you need it. It will come with your choice of M50/2 or 35-80/5.6 non-SMC. Choice of film is Konica B&W or Kodak MAX, 6 frame rolls. :-) Being aware of your place in society and how it affects others has nothing to do with being leftist or hating private property. BTW, as evidence of how SUVs are evil, I present the many pictures of Taliban riding on Toyotas 4x4 we all have seen in the last few months. j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
In a message dated 12/4/01 7:14:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And there is nowhere in the USA where you can cruise at 110mph in a > sportscar > let alone a van. Ah Bob, you've got to get out more! Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Montana-a lot of western states have areas where flying along at 140mph+ is considered "local sport"! Remember, the state of Nevada had ~no~ speed limit until recently. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Minolta info
Hi gang. One of my friends, who was stolen with me, is going to cash the insurance. He had Nikon stuff, but now is looking at Minolta AF. I know some members use (maybe Kent Gittings?) Minolta, and he is looking for good info, reviews, comments, etc. Any links, etc would be appreciated Thanks Albano In Pentax I Trust - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX with LX screens, elaboration requested.
With a clear glass screen the image is very bright, but there is nothing to focus on. So, usually, a small crosshair is put in the center of the sceen so you can compare the arial plane of the image to the crosshair for focusing. Clear screens are really intended for thing like astrophotography, photography through a microscope, etc. You really need to have the image very steady to focus in comparison to the crosshair. They really do not work worth a darn for hand held photography. Ciao, graywolf On 4 Dec 2001 at 8:19, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Sort of like cross-hairs in a gun scope. > > Collin > > --- > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >My memory may be wrong, but I thought there was a clear screen with > >crosshair available for the MX. > Yes they did and I've got one! > - -- > Mark Roberts > www.robertstech.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Virus problem -- on-topic, I think
Hi all, I've just noticed that my posts to PDML today have a message appended telling me that some small (a few dozen bytes) UU-encoded file was stripped by the listserver de-MIME software. Also found out that a colleague of mine on the other side of the country has received a mysterious attachment at the bottom of each of two e-mails I sent to him last night and today. The displayed filename of the attachment seems to be the first eight characters of the e-mail subject line. Looks like I have a virus. Has anyone heard of this, and more importantly, does anyone know how to get rid of it? Thanks in advance for any help. By the way, I don't think it's the newly announced W32/Goner virus, since I don't seem to have GONE.SCR on my hard drive or in my registry. @#%()@*#$^( Bill Gates! @$)%*#!@^ Windows!! &%$*(%)^* Outlook!!! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 57 lines] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
In a message dated 12/4/01 11:06:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Digital is very cool, but a real pain in the ass. > > Glad ~you~ said that! Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Minolta info
Just have him check out the Pop Photo review of the Minolta Maxxum 7 from about a year ago. He'll run, not walk, to his nearest dealer to get one. Great camera, so says my neighbor. DG At 05:29 PM 12/4/01 -0300, you wrote: >Hi gang. >One of my friends, who was stolen with me, is going to cash the insurance. >He had Nikon stuff, but now is looking at Minolta AF. I know some members >use (maybe Kent Gittings?) Minolta, and he is looking for good info, >reviews, comments, etc. Any links, etc would be appreciated >Thanks > >Albano > >In Pentax I Trust >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: WAY OT: Help with Christmas Shopping
You can buy blank shirts and have your local shop print on the shirts anything you want. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tiger Moses Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WAY OT: Help with Christmas Shopping Which US based people here would be willing to go to their local Harley Davidson dealer, buy me two Harley shirts with that Dealer/City/State on them, and send them with a bill (including reasonable shipping) to me. Please identify the city/state these might happen to be from. Thanks CAROLINA-BILL, are you reading this? Anyone in Alaska on here? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: WAY OT: Help with Christmas Shopping
> Which US based people here would be willing to go to their local Harley > Davidson dealer, > buy me two Harley shirts with that Dealer/City/State on them, and send them > with a bill > (including reasonable shipping) to me. > > Please identify the city/state these might happen to be from. > > Thanks > > CAROLINA-BILL, are you reading this? > Anyone in Alaska on here? Yes, and I'm going to be on that side of Gastonia tomorrow and will see what I can do. Will let you know tomorrow evening. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Virus problem -- on-topic, I think
Bill Peifer wrote: > I've just noticed that my posts to PDML today have a message appended > telling me that some small (a few dozen bytes) UU-encoded file was stripped > by the listserver de-MIME software. The message I'm seeing is (from the very message to which I'm replying): > [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 57 lines] Winmail.dat is some strange Outlook silliness that's apparently like some sort of e-business-card that only Outlook can read. Not using Outlook (but corresponding with some other Outlook users), I've never figured out what combination of Preferences settings and circumstances causes it to be appended sometimes and not others. Nobody I've spoken to about it has been able to turn it off intentionally. So this doesn't sound like a worm. > Also found out that a colleague of mine > on the other side of the country has received a mysterious attachment at the > bottom of each of two e-mails I sent to him last night and today. The > displayed filename of the attachment seems to be the first eight characters > of the e-mail subject line. Looks like I have a virus. This, on the other hand, does sound suspicious. :-( -- Glenn, who is peeking in on recent messages but falling further behind on reading the PDML lately. A few days ago I punted 4000+ messages that I don't think I'm ever going to have time to catch up on. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Virus problem -- on-topic, I think
That should be "a few dozen lines", not "a few dozen bytes" > -Original Message- > From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:18 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Virus problem -- on-topic, I think > > Hi all, > > I've just noticed that my posts to PDML today have a message appended > telling me that some small (a few dozen bytes) UU-encoded file was > stripped > by the listserver de-MIME software. Also found out that a colleague of > mine > on the other side of the country has received a mysterious attachment at > the > bottom of each of two e-mails I sent to him last night and today. The > displayed filename of the attachment seems to be the first eight > characters > of the e-mail subject line. Looks like I have a virus. Has anyone heard > of > this, and more importantly, does anyone know how to get rid of it? Thanks > in advance for any help. > > By the way, I don't think it's the newly announced W32/Goner virus, since > I > don't seem to have GONE.SCR on my hard drive or in my registry. > @#%()@*#$^( > Bill Gates! @$)%*#!@^ Windows!! &%$*(%)^* Outlook!!! > > Bill Peifer > Rochester, NY > [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 70 lines] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: Re: OT: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers > In a message dated 12/4/01 1:56:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Besides i still think i take better film flash then digital flash. > > > > Dave > > > > I agree Dave. Lag time between pushing the shutter release and actuall firing > is, as you note-atrocious. Most under $500 digital flash gives you that: > "shot in a dark room with ISO 100 film" look. That's because the digital is usually only any good at the equivelent of 100 or 50 speed film... A big shortcoming in affordable digital right now IMO... Isaac > > Mafud > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Photo Greeting Cards
Is there a company that makes greeting cards on which you can print your own photo? Not interested in "digital" for this project. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: shooting holiday lights
On 4 Dec 2001 at 11:32, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > How do you arrive at this conclusion? I've a couple of Pentax meters, > both analog and digital, and they are both absolutely on the money. > There's no "leakage" outside the metering spot in either of them. Better check this page Shel, http://www.stecf.org/~rfosbury/home/photography/Camera_info/camera_info.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What does "The Prisoner" say about anecdotal evidence?
Collin wrote: > As a final note, one of my pictures is in a > frame on their mantel. Respectfully, I would suggest that that's because you're a superior photographer armed with professional-quality equipment, not because digital is inherently "a real pain in the ass." I could just as easily imagine a similar scenario with a professional photojournalist armed with a Nikon D1x and three clueless civilians with cheap film point-and-shoots. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Photoshops in Whippany, NJ?
Next week I will be in Whippany, NJ, for a few days. Are there any reasonable shops around? My itinerary doesn't allow me to go to Manhattan this time. Frits Wüthrich - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
My guess is that he probably meant 110 kilometres per hour. That would be about 65-70 mph. Being that the US is about the only country not using metric that I know of... Then there are us old farts in Canada - brought up on Imperial, converted (kicking and screaming) to metric due to government decree back in the 70's. :-) regards, frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And there is nowhere in the USA where you can cruise at 110mph in a sportscar > let alone a van. Furthermore, the tires will not stand up to the punishment. > About as fast as we cruise is 75mph or 120 Kph. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photo Greeting Cards
I would start with your local print shops - they should give you some paper samples that you can print out on so that you can select the paper, and the cost of the greeting cards is usually very reasonable locally. Maris - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: Photo Greeting Cards | Is there a company that makes greeting cards on which you can print your | own photo? | | Not interested in "digital" for this project. | -- | Shel Belinkoff | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html | http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG comments
Thanks Bill. Nice to know it doesn't look like hooey everywhere. Tom - Original Message - From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'aimcompute'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:28 AM Subject: RE: December PUG comments > Tom C. wrote: > > Blockiness... are you viewing this with a CRT or an LCD display? > [Snip...] > > I'm running 24-bit color on my laptop and 32-bit on the desktop > > system. Maybe that's the difference. I didn't try running 24-bit on > > the desktop. What bit depth are you running at? > > Hi Tom, > > Looks like it's my system. I've still got a first-generation Pentium at > work, along with a cheap 15" NEC multi-sync monitor. (I think we're > supposed to go through another upgrade cycle here next year.) Typically I'm > running at a depth of only 16 bits. Looks much, much better when I view it > at 32-bit depth. I kind of suspected that this might be the problem. > > Bill > > > [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 59 lines] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SUVs
Maybe that's why they use mechanical flagmen in Montana. I kick myself for not taking a picture. It was a life size plywood (I think) man with a motorized arm waving a flag. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:10 AM Subject: Re: SUVs > In Montana there is some officer discretion > as to public safety matters. A Geo going > 80+ (if it could) would certainly get pulled over. > > > Collin > > - > Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 07:27:22 -0600 > From: Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: SUVs > > I think Montana only has a speed limit at night. During daylight hours you > can drive as fast as you want to. > > - --Mike > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
"Questions are a burden to others, and a prison for one's self." That was one of my favorite lines too. I think it was on a sign in an office. I occasionally will respond to my wife this way when she asks me a question, the answer to which she will not like. I'm not a number, I'm a free man! Be seeing you. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: RE: OT, and ridiculous...was: Re: flash stuff > Tom C. wrote: > > Totally OT... Who here likes my ALL TIME FAVORITE series, "The Prisoner"? > > Oh man, Tom, don't get me started! I've found that I can get through just > about any workplace situation with a few choice lines from that show -- > usually Patrick McGoohan's lines, but sometimes the other characters as > well. One of my favorite replies for annoying questions? "Questions are a > burden to others, and a prison for one's self." (I think that was from the > episode entitled, "A, B, and C", or something like that.) That was such a > great show -- too bad it only lasted one season on American TV. > > Got to get back to work now. The new No. 2 is probably looking over my > shoulder. > > Regards, > No. 6 > > > [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 61 lines] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG
With the greatest of respect, I didn't take Albano's comments as "anti-American" at all. I happen to disagree with him and his "stars and stripes" comment, being as the equinox happened 1 1/2 weeks after Sept 11 - I think the number of "patriotic" images was to be expected, and quite appropriate under the circumstances. But, why do you think he was "anti-American"? This is the first attack by a non-American on mainland US soil since the war of 1812. You hope Italy never has to deal with it? Remember WWII? I seem to recall from history class that it was fought there, so I think that Italians know what it's like to have their towns and villages destroyed. My guess is that most Italians on this list have parents and/or grandparents that were alive during the War. And Italy isn't "neutral". It's a member of NATO, the last time I looked. The Scandinavian countries (Norway and Denmark at least - I'm not sure about Sweden, but I'm sure someone can enlighten us) were invaded by Germany in WWII, and both had a very active resistance, blowing up military installations and the like. In point of fact, Canada and the US have, compared to the rest of the world, NOT had to deal with war on our soil in the last century and a half. Virtually every other country has. regards, frank "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > Deal with it! I was actually hoping to get a rise out of our Anti-American > friends on the list. > > Those of us who live where we frequently pass a view of the New York City > skyline are still deeply affected by the World Trade Center disaster, and it > continues to affect our daily lives. I just pray that those of you in > "neutral" countries, like in Italia and Scandanavia, never have to deal with > something like that. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1675
Best nonsequiter I've read in a while. Collin >Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:12:19 -0800 (PST) >From: "Juan J. Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: SUVs > >On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > >ROTFLMAO! > >Hahhahaahahhhaahahaha! > >Watch out! We're coming after your MZ-S next! We'll replace it with a >K1000 that you'll have to check out from the community equipment case >every time you need it. It will come with your choice of M50/2 or >35-80/5.6 non-SMC. Choice of film is Konica B&W or Kodak MAX, 6 frame >rolls. > >:-) > >Being aware of your place in society and how it affects others has >nothing to do with being leftist or hating private property. > >BTW, as evidence of how SUVs are evil, I present the many pictures of >Taliban riding on Toyotas 4x4 we all have seen in the last few months. > >j > >- -- >- --- > Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com >- --- >- - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Edith Keiler must die." -- Spock, 1930 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
I've got the entire series on tape as well. I will get it on DVD some day. Cool. Pawn to Queen's 4. I think I need a Lotus Super Seven. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:56 AM Subject: Re: OT, and ridiculous...was: Re: flash stuff > That would be telling! > > Of course, it's the best TV series ever, envn though it only ran one season. I > have the entire series on Video Tape. I got my son hooke, and now he has it on > DVD. Plus, we each have computor game versions of the Prisoner. > > My wife and I travelled to England Whales and Ireland two years ago, and, of > course, we stopped in "The Village" at Portmeiron. What an experience for the > real fan! > > Be seeing you... > > Dan > > "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" wrote: > > > Tom C. wrote: > > > Totally OT... Who here likes my ALL TIME FAVORITE series, "The Prisoner"? > > > > Oh man, Tom, don't get me started! I've found that I can get through just > > about any workplace situation with a few choice lines from that show -- > > usually Patrick McGoohan's lines, but sometimes the other characters as > > well. One of my favorite replies for annoying questions? "Questions are a > > burden to others, and a prison for one's self." (I think that was from the > > episode entitled, "A, B, and C", or something like that.) That was such a > > great show -- too bad it only lasted one season on American TV. > > > > Got to get back to work now. The new No. 2 is probably looking over my > > shoulder. > > > > Regards, > > No. 6 > > > > [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 61 lines] > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > -- > Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com > Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photo Greeting Cards
Take a look at Photographer's Edge on line. I've simply bought nice card stock at an art supply and had 4X6's printed up. Use Scotch spray mount to apply the photo to the card. Works nicely. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Photo Greeting Cards > Is there a company that makes greeting cards on which you can print your > own photo? > > Not interested in "digital" for this project. > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/pow/enter.html > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: SUV's and the like
My Dad had two maroon R10's. I had a maroon R15 and then a green Le Car. I would still love to find an R17 Gordini with the electric ragtop in great condition. I love the way that car looks, inside and out. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Christian Skofteland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:09 AM Subject: Re: OT: SUV's and the like > The R5 turbo was an awesome car. Mid engined, ridiculous amounts of > horsepower and a body that screamed: "Look at me!" I've seen them for sale > at bargain prices considering how few were made. However, nothing beats the > Audi Sport Quattro in the Group B category. > > Christian Skofteland > > - Original Message - > From: "Kent Gittings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:42 AM > Subject: RE: OT: SUV's and the like > > > > The Renault doesn't meet North American clean air standards. Or Renault > > hasn't bothered to get it tested to see if it would pass is the more > likely > > problem. Importing any car that was never sold here is a problem. Of > course > > you could have brought a vintage Renault R5 rally car. I had a late friend > > John Kelly (raced with Bob Tullius's Group 44 team) who until his death a > > few years ago drove one on the street. > > Kent Gittings > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wendy beard > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:24 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT: SUV's and the like > > > > > > Permission to go off on one too? > > > > When we moved over to Canada in July, we weren't allowed to bring our 1.8 > > litre, less than two year old, petrol sipping Renault with us - because > > - "It doesn't conform with the North American Standard" > > i.e. The engine size is less than 4 litre, it weighs less than 4000kg and > > does more than 8 gallons to the mile > > What we _were_ allowed to import was a 1977 triumph stag with a +/- 3 > litre > > engine that runs on high octane leaded fuel. (and weighs about twice as > > much as the Renault) > > And what choice did we have when wanting to buy a replacement here? > Dobbin' > > big people carriers or pickup trucks.with automatic transmission > > Ideal for snowy, icy conditions, I don't think. Or maybe it doesn't snow > in > > Canada?? > > > > Having aired that, I'm off to beddy bo bos > > > > night all, > > > > Wendy > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > > > ** > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > > the system manager. > > > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > > > www.mimesweeper.com > > ** > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT, and ridiculous.......was: Re: flash stuff
Dan, that picture was in Switzerland. I want to see the Village :-). Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: Re: OT, and ridiculous...was: Re: flash stuff > Before I get flamed by the Pentax police, I must point at that, at the Village, I > took many photos with three Pentax cameras. One of my shot was submitted as my > October 2000 PUG entry. > > "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > > > That would be telling! > > > > Of course, it's the best TV series ever, envn though it only ran one season. I > > have the entire series on Video Tape. I got my son hooke, and now he has it on > > DVD. Plus, we each have computor game versions of the Prisoner. > > > > My wife and I travelled to England Whales and Ireland two years ago, and, of > > course, we stopped in "The Village" at Portmeiron. What an experience for the > > real fan! > > > > Be seeing you... > > > > Dan > > > > "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" wrote: > > > > > Tom C. wrote: > > > > Totally OT... Who here likes my ALL TIME FAVORITE series, "The Prisoner"? > > > > > > Oh man, Tom, don't get me started! I've found that I can get through just > > > about any workplace situation with a few choice lines from that show -- > > > usually Patrick McGoohan's lines, but sometimes the other characters as > > > well. One of my favorite replies for annoying questions? "Questions are a > > > burden to others, and a prison for one's self." (I think that was from the > > > episode entitled, "A, B, and C", or something like that.) That was such a > > > great show -- too bad it only lasted one season on American TV. > > > > > > Got to get back to work now. The new No. 2 is probably looking over my > > > shoulder. > > > > > > Regards, > > > No. 6 > > > > > > [demime removed a uuencoded section named winmail.dat which was 61 lines] > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > -- > > Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com > > Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > -- > Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com > Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX with LX screens, elaboration requested.
- replies between quotes - LeviL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > I just signed up to the list and I find something useful right away. Hi L! (what's your name, BTW?) Welcome to the list. I'm sorry for my late reply, but I took the time to make some side by side comparison between bodies and screens. I feel I made a hurried statement, so I have to clear myself... :-) > I > was just about to buy 2 LX screens for the new improved kind. I was about > to have my MX recaibrated. Looking at > > http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/screens/index.html > > a site I am sure you are familiar with I was thinking about geting the > SC69 and the SE60 and maybe the SE25 (or one of the other over 300mm kind > to use with the mirror lens I am about to buy) These are exactly what you > advised against. So you say I should just stick to the MX screens because > they are better then these super bright ones and they are better for > super-telephoto aplications over the LX screens especially designed for > these purposes? No. Let's make a step back. I wrote I wouldn't mount a SG-60 or one of the new LX screen due to a bad vignetting in the finder. This is true, but it's effective with a normal or short lens and, I admit I had no time to explain better, if you wear glasses (so do I...). The problem is due to the kind of eyepiece and magnification of the MX too: the LX has a longer eyepoint, so I can see the entire frame. I can't do that with the MX. I have to move slightly the eye to have a complete view. With one of the new screens (as I said, I tried first with the SG-60) and the 50/1.7 I could barely see the center of the frame... > You talk about vignetting. I assume this is just vignetting of the > viewfinder, not the pictures since the screen had nothing to do with the > exposure. Please confirm this. So if I am getting this right you say the > "super great new bright" LX screens are darker in the MX then the MX > sceens? > I can confirm for sure about the vignetting, but I had no intention to state something as a rule. > Gianfranco, please elaborate on your experiences. I also would be qurious > to see what you recommend. My MX screen is all scratched up. I use an LX > screen for Astro, but lightmetering is not an issue there so... There is > no Pentax made clear screen for MX, which I would really like, I would > also like to be able to use a super-tele mirror with high accuracy. Well... Few hours ago I started to try every possible screen/lens coupling. I mounted in the MX the following screens: SE-25, SC-26, SE-60. Since you want to do astrophotography I used the 300/4, alone and with a 2x converter (I could have used a true 600/8 and attach to it different converters - maybe I'll do in the following days), and tried some shorter lens anyway, just to have a reference. The SE-25 is not a great screen, I don't like it even with the LX... The vignetting is visible, but significantly less than with a normal lens mounted (to be precise: the SE-25 vignettes with lenses shorter than 80mm even with the LX). If you do not wear glasses, maybe the vignetting won't bother you too much. The SC-26 is one of my favorite screens. It allows you to focus a 300/4 almost like a 50/1.4 used with the standard SC-21. Used on the MX the vignetting is not that bad (I think it is mostly due to the glasses in this case). At 600/8 you can still use the focusing aids, although the microprisms start to be hard to focus. When I mounted the SE-60 I must admit I couldn't believe to my eyes. This is the less vignetting-prone screen of these three (I'm still talking of tele lenses, of course - I had no time to try a macro set-up). Used at 600/8 you can easily focus objects at infinity and closer, but, most important, I couldn't see any kind of vignetting in the finder (things are different if you use this screen with, say, a 20/4: you will hardly see the subject even at the center of the frame; with the LX this shouldn't happen - I didn't try, though). I think these are good news for you. If you are able to buy a SE-60 screen you should go for it in a hurry. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on the screens specifically designed for astrophotography like the SD-11. What f stop is the lens you use for your astrophotography? This should be the parameter to consider. Hope this is clear enough... Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG
"Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > Deal with it! I was actually hoping to get a rise out of our Anti-American > friends on the list. BTW, are you saying you were baiting people with your image this month? From that comment, it sure sounds that way. Nice touch. regards, frank > > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
On 4 Dec 2001 at 13:56, David Brooks wrote: > My D1 flash sync's to 1/500.It helps me immensley for > "critical action" stuff.That is my big complain of the > p/s digital stugff out there now.Shutter lag is no good(correct > if wrong)for action stuff i do in the horsey world.For stand > alone portrait stuff probaly ok. > Besides i still think i take better film flash then digital flash. The Oly E-10 (4MP fixed lens digital SLR) has 60ms shutter lag (assuming focus is locked), sync's up to its highest shutter speed (1/640s) and can display a level histogram over the after shot LCD view and can be bought for just a little more than top line digital p/s. I have never found flash photography as easy. Can't wait for a Pentax K mount digital. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dec PUG comments
Thanks, Bob, for the kind words. However, I think your eye keeps coming back to my picture because it's the last on the page...:) Appreciate your comments! Chris - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Dec PUG comments Just some mentions of photos that caught my eye and have not been noted yet... Jaume Lahuerta - The Tower and the (Ghost) Church - Wonderful nighttime cloud effects over the city and the tower keeps attracting my attention. Sergey SHP - St. Petersburg, City Centre - So was it nighttime in Poland and broad daylight in St. Petersburg, or is that moonlight? Bill Piefer - Clockworks - simple subject, well executed Stan Halpin - "Yellow Flower - Yellow Bug" - I like the flower and the bug makes it all that much better. Do you think the Portra 160 NC is muting the colors? Rodger Whitlock - A Synchro-Tomato - The fuzzy stuff threw me off at first, then drew me into the photo. You can almost feel the warmth of the sunshine. Christian Skofteland - Dusk Watch - I like the silouettes and the color, but you've got to lose the CrappyScan scanner. William Robb - Berries - Very vibrant colors and great contrast between the blue berries and the red stems. What kind of Ivy is that? Cotty - Stefan Asleep, 2001 - Sell this photo to a stock agency! It is a wonderfully lit and exposed example of a sleeping child. He will forgive you for taking the photo when he as kids of his own. Chris Niemertelny - Synchronous Willow - Why do I keep on coming back to look at this photo again and again. It is deceptively simple yet attractive. Gianfranco, Darryn, Jon, Annsan - as others commented, your images are excellent. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SUVs
Juan wrote: > BTW, as evidence of how SUVs are evil, I present the many pictures of > Taliban riding on Toyotas 4x4 we all have seen in the last few months. No, no, that's evidence that TOYOTA is evil. Try not to misinterpret the data, Juan! --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Virus problem -- on-topic, I think
Bill P. wrote: > @#%()@*#$^( > Bill Gates! @$)%*#!@^ Windows!! &%$*(%)^* Outlook!!! I'll second that. --Mike "Macintosh Uber Alles" Johnston - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Spotmeter leakage
> How do you arrive at this conclusion? I've a couple of Pentax meters, > both analog and digital, and they are both absolutely on the money. > There's no "leakage" outside the metering spot in either of them. There's "leakage outside the metering spot" in ALL spot meters. And it's not consistent. It can't be otherwise, since it's affected by flare. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1675
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Best nonsequiter I've read in a while. Non sequitur? What doesn't follow, pray tell? For the annoyance of the rest of the group, here's your original message: > Discussion about SUVs tends to be oriented > around lack of efficiency and energy consumption. > That is, >they're a luxury which should be controlled. > So how much does the luxury of photography add to > environmental pollution? > Or, even less-noticed, the semiconductor industry? > > Those who target SUVs will, when their task is complete, just pick > another target. Because the movers and shakers (not all of the > followers) in this world view are from a Marxist persuasion. They > hate things like private property and class success. And this is my smart-ass response, which just took your environmentalists-are-marxists premise, plus your suggestion that they'll come after photography, to its own ridiculous end: > >Watch out! We're coming after your MZ-S next! We'll replace it with a > >K1000 that you'll have to check out from the community equipment case > >every time you need it. It will come with your choice of M50/2 or > >35-80/5.6 non-SMC. Choice of film is Konica B&W or Kodak MAX, 6 frame > >rolls. > > > >:-) > > > >Being aware of your place in society and how it affects others has > >nothing to do with being leftist or hating private property. > > > >BTW, as evidence of how SUVs are evil, I present the many pictures of > >Taliban riding on Toyotas 4x4 we all have seen in the last few months. A most appropiate answer if you ask me. But what do I know, I drive a Civic. Cheers, j - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: luxuries (was SUVs etc)
At 12:12 4-12-2001 -0500, Collin wrote: >So how much does the luxury of photography add to >environmental pollution? >Or, even less-noticed, the semiconductor industry? How does the luxury of photography add to the semiconductor industry? I probably didn't read that correctly. But - turning it round - It's the semiconductor industry that allows me the luxury of photography. Not because of the whizz bang ICs that are made to go in our super-duper state of the art cameras. It's because that's where my wages come from. Wendy --- Wendy & Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: "Neutral" countries (was: Re: December PUG)
Hi Dan, I'd prefer avoiding to say that, but you should study the recent Italian history better... As Frank kindly pointed out, most Italians remember well the WWII time. My mother was born in 1927 and has suffered from bombing in Naples from any belligerent, including Americans and Germans. In spite of that, she still has good memories of both... In most recent times, from the seventies till the nineties, we had hundreds of people killed by terrorists in many ways (I won't argue what kind of terrorists they were and what they sought - too complicated). That's due probably (more than just 'probably') to the fact that Italy is not a neutral country at all. Gianfranco Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deal with it! I was actually hoping to get a rise out of our Anti-American > friends on the list. > > Those of us who live where we frequently pass a view of the New York City > skyline are still deeply affected by the World Trade Center disaster, and it > continues to affect our daily lives. I just pray that those of you in > "neutral" countries, like in Italia and Scandanavia, never have to deal with > something like that. Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photoshops in Whippany, NJ?
Frits, If you'll be here this Sunday (the 9th), there's the Second Sunday Camera show and swap at the Fireman's Hall in Wayne, NJ (probably not more than a 15 minute drive from Whippany). There's a smallish shop on Route 10 in Parsippany (next to Whippany) by the name of Photo Zone, generally has some decent used equipment but you'll only spend about 10 minutes or so there. Drop me a line off list and I'll give you the directions to Fireman's Hall if you so happen to be in NJ on Sunday. Best regards, Chris Next week I will be in Whippany, NJ, for a few days. Are there any reasonable shops around? My itinerary doesn't allow me to go to Manhattan this time. . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG comments
Peifer, William [OCDUS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The Party is Over", by Gianfranco Irlanda > The hands really seem to tell a story here. I looked through the PUG in > order, and this shot appeared after several which dealt with September 11 > themes. In light of this, I wonder what the two people at this party were > talking about. Hi Bill, Thanks for the kind comments. On the 11th of September my girlfriend and I took Fulvia, the girl in the picture, to a job interview in a little town near Naples. We received the news on my cellular phone by SMS, then my brother called to inform us. When Fulvia ended the interview we hurried to my girlfriend's house which... is near the airport. The scenary was really scaring. On one side the images on the TV screen, on the other a bunch of military aircrafts flying around over our heads (Naples is a NATO base). Fulvia was the most worried of the three. No wonder if at the equinox time she was still badly worried about it. Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Virus problem -- on-topic, I think
Peifer, William [OCDUS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > @#%()@*#$^( > Bill Gates! @$)%*#!@^ Windows!! &%$*(%)^* Outlook!!! > I completely agree! Gianfranco Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
I agree that NASA does research, but what portion of their government-controlled budget is devoted to solar? Now a days it seems like most spacecraft are made with off-the-shelf parts to keep costs down instead of there being a lot of R&D. The "quick return" is the "attitude" I was alluding to. It's a short versus long term view. Let's make money quick, even if it wrecks the planet. Lawmakers will decide not to invest in alternative energy as long as they are stockholders and board members of oil companies and auto manufacturers. As far as efficiency, I suspect it could be vastly improved by technologies and methods not yet envisioned and definitely not budgeted for. Sierra, well they're Sierra. A respectable organization, no doubt, but maybe fanatical in some cases. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Kent Gittings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:27 AM Subject: RE: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? > Actually the reason is business. Without a guaranteed quick return only the > solar energy companies like Solarex can make a profit off the stuff. And > don't think that pouring more R & D dollars will get the efficiency much > over the low percentage conversions now available. NASA pays for extensive > research and engineering projects in that area as space is still the number > one priority for it. > Not to mention the Sierra Club would most likely sue to keep all the solar > panels from covering all the acreage you would need to make it work. Fusion > would be a better solution so instead of trying to harness a small > percentage of the sun's fusion it would be better just to do it here. Would > save the large areas we'd have to chop down to cover with solar panels. > My vote is to get all the commuters off the road into some kind of mass > transit so those of us who enjoy high performance driving can have the roads > all to ourselves. > Kent Gittings - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 67II review
Thanks Dan. That was quite informative and well written. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Dan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: Pentax 67II review > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/pentax67ii.htm > > I saw the above review a few days ago and keep forgetting to post the URL > to the list. > > Dan Scott > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, aimcompute wrote: > I agree 1000%. Until I can do everything with digital I can with > film, until I can take digital media into a good lab and get great > results, I am not inclined to invest any further in it. Let's see... > I can spend my time messing wth software and printers, or I can let > someone else do that part while I'm out pressing the shutter release. Valid points, but you *can* do this with good labs. Why does everyone always argue that the price of printers, paper and ink need to be factored into comparing digital and film cameras? Do you include the price of a good minilab into the purchase of your film camera? If you don't want to print them yourself, take the files to a good lab and let them do it... just like film. Don's Photo, for example, charges the same for prints from digital files as from film. This isn't a rant against you, Tom, but against those people who criticize digital cameras because of problems with home printing. I'm bitter tonight because I have to mark 50 essays for next week and I'm running out of time... and the store is insanely busy because of Christmas (this is a good thing, though... anyone need a camera? ).. and everyone keeps wanting me to go out and do fun stuff, and I'm a sucker for peer pressure and a good rum-and-coke. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?
William Robb wrote: > I have heard from a few sources that the fastest way to stop is > to lock up all four wheels, as that is how they create the most > friction. That's sometimes true, but only because you avoid brake fade when the pads and rotors are locked. > > I know for a fact that ABS increases stopping distances, I have > tested it under conditions ranging from dry pavement to skating > rink. In every situation, ABS takes longer to stop than a > vehicle of similar weight/ tire size without ABS. > > You're right. It almost always takes longer to stop with ABS. However, > it allows you to steer and maintain control while braking. That's the > benefit of ABS. And it's a substantial benefit for most drivers. Paul Stenquist - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: San Francisco trip
Regarding the closure of Union Square, I phoned a friend today. He tells me the stores and hotels around Union Square are open. It's the square itself (a square block between Powell, Post, Stockton, and O'Farrell) and the below-ground parking garage that are closed. Of course, my friend is not a great shopper-:) It's the stores that would be decorated anyway. Bill - Original Message - From: Andy Vu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: RE: San Francisco trip > Thanks Everyone for the input about San Francisco trip, I think my first > target would be China Town. I'll post pictures when I get back. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Juan J. Buhler > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 5:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: San Francisco trip > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Bill Sullivan wrote: > > > stained glass ceiling. I would also suggest a walk down Maiden Lane > which > > runs east from Stockton St. at Union Square. Union Square and the > stores > > nearby should be nicely decorated at Christmas. > > Union Square has been closed for construction for all of 2001. I think > they might open early 2002, I'm not sure. > > j > > -- > > --- > Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at > http://www.jbuhler.com > > --- > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG
In a message dated 12/4/01 6:35:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This is the first attack by a non-American on mainland US soil since the war > of > 1812. You better not tell all those Alaska combat Veterans of Kiska and Attu Island that. The Japanese not only invaded US soil, they kicked butt-for about a minute. You said "mainland." Then there were thousands of Japanese balloon firebombs. Japanese subs roamed all up and down the West coast, some of them raiding inland. Some of the Japanese subs even dropped off spies. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: December PUG
> In a message dated 12/4/01 6:35:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > This is the first attack by a non-American on mainland US soil since the war > > of > > 1812. > > You better not tell all those Alaska combat Veterans of Kiska and Attu Island > that. The Japanese not only invaded US soil, they kicked butt-for about a > minute. You said "mainland." Then there were thousands of Japanese balloon > firebombs. Japanese subs roamed all up and down the West coast, some of them > raiding inland. > Some of the Japanese subs even dropped off spies. Thats OK, you all fixed their wagon good. Those Japanese, always the clever sots. Did those inland subs have wheels? HAR!! I can see it now, a little front wheel drive submarine that rusts out really quickly... Didn't the Canadians nearly take Washington DC in some border dispute at some point? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What does "The Prisoner" say about anecdotal evidence?
In a message dated 12/4/01 9:35:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You > use the term "photojournalist", and "civilian" as if they are > separate entities. I have seen this usage of teminology before > from time to time. > They [we] (PJs) are ~not~ civilians. We are separate and apart. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
Chris, I wasn't arguing so much about price. It's more about time. About a year ago it seemed pretty clear (from what I read) that digital was FAR from the quality of film, by about a factor of 10. I'm talking again about RAW information. It doesn't seem that we've come far past that. Maybe a time and 1/2 in the last year? For something that the ordinary person can afford? I even think a 640X480 Mavica does a nice job for what I use it for. I think digital is fine for every day use. I'm not convinced it's fine for more than that... yet. Respectfully, Mighty Mouse - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Re: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, aimcompute wrote: > > > I agree 1000%. Until I can do everything with digital I can with > > film, until I can take digital media into a good lab and get great > > results, I am not inclined to invest any further in it. Let's see... > > I can spend my time messing wth software and printers, or I can let > > someone else do that part while I'm out pressing the shutter release. > > Valid points, but you *can* do this with good labs. Why does everyone > always argue that the price of printers, paper and ink need to be factored > into comparing digital and film cameras? Do you include the price of a > good minilab into the purchase of your film camera? If you don't want to > print them yourself, take the files to a good lab and let them do it... > just like film. Don's Photo, for example, charges the same for prints > from digital files as from film. This isn't a rant against you, Tom, but > against those people who criticize digital cameras because of problems > with home printing. I'm bitter tonight because I have to mark 50 essays > for next week and I'm running out of time... and the store is insanely > busy because of Christmas (this is a good thing, though... anyone need a > camera? ).. and everyone keeps wanting me to go out and do fun stuff, > and I'm a sucker for peer pressure and a good rum-and-coke. :) > > chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What does "The Prisoner" say about anecdotal evidence?
In a message dated 12/4/01 9:35:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Why do photojournalists, who are rarely members of a military > organization feel they have the right to call non photojournalists > "civilians" in a context that would have us believe that they themselves > are not "civilians". We're different. We see the world with minds and eyes jaded by the weird, the disgusting, the bad things in life. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, aimcompute wrote: > Chris, > > I wasn't arguing so much about price. It's more about time. That's why I said that the rant wasn't directed against you. :) And yeah, it can take a while to print images yourself... but a good lab can give as fast a turn-around time as film, and often even faster. > About a year ago it seemed pretty clear (from what I read) that digital was > FAR from the quality of film, by about a factor of 10. I'm talking again > about RAW information. > > It doesn't seem that we've come far past that. Maybe a time and 1/2 in the > last year? For something that the ordinary person can afford? Well, I've been working at Don's for just over three years now, and digital's come a long way in that time, IMO. I remember when 1.3MP cameras were the rage, while nowadays the standard is 3MP and up. But yeah, they are expensive, aren't they? This is just a matter of time, though, and after some more years pass I fully expect to see kick-ass quality digital come down to affordable levels. > I even think a 640X480 Mavica does a nice job for what I use it for. > > I think digital is fine for every day use. I'm not convinced it's fine for > more than that... yet. For me, it's a bit like a cell phone. I use my 2MP digital for certain things (eBay, parties, etc.) because it's small, cool, fun, and good enough quality for what I want to do with the images... just like I use my cell phone for pretty much the same reasons. At the same time, the audio qualiy of my cell isn't good enough for me to use it all the time as my only phone, so I still have a land-based one. It's about the right tool for the job, not about which format is intriniscally better. Again, this is just a general observation, not anything directed at Tom. :) > Respectfully, > > Mighty Mouse Ditto, Arthur Dent - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Oh, yeah? SUV this
Collin and Juan squared off thusly: >> Best nonsequiter I've read in a while. > > Non sequitur? What doesn't follow, pray tell? Let's not get into it, huh, guys, please? Sheesh, what this list needs is a good censor. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Sigma 100-300 F/4
Hi all. This is my first post here. I'm very much interested in getting the Sigma 100-300 f/4 or a lens of this type. As for now I have a Pentax MZM. The MZM does wonders for a little guy. Has anyone had experience with Sigma Lens on the MZ-M. Especially the new AF lens of constant aperture. Hopefully later on I'll move up to the upcomming MZ-6 or even the MZ-S. Christien Bunting http://linux.co.tt/pics - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What does "The Prisoner" say about anecdotal evidence?
ci·vil·ian (s-vlyn) n. A person following the pursuits of civil life, especially one who is not an active member of the military or police. adj.Of or relating to civilians or civil life; nonmilitary: civilian clothes; a civilian career. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: Re: What does "The Prisoner" say about anecdotal evidence? > In a message dated 12/4/01 9:35:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Why do photojournalists, who are rarely members of a military > > organization feel they have the right to call non photojournalists > > "civilians" in a context that would have us believe that they themselves > > are not "civilians". > > > We're different. We see the world with minds and eyes jaded by the weird, the > disgusting, the bad things in life. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What does "The Prisoner" say about anecdotal evidence?
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 12/4/01 9:35:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > You > > use the term "photojournalist", and "civilian" as if they are > > separate entities. I have seen this usage of teminology before > > from time to time. > > > > They [we] (PJs) are ~not~ civilians. We are separate and apart. Wrong. To pull a Valentin, civilian. n. a person whose primary occupation is civil or nonmilitary. (Collins English Dictionary) I think you're reaching for a different word, Mafud. Maybe "accredited" or something similar? PJ's are employed by companies for a purpose, which differentiates them to some degree from casual shooters, but they're still civilians. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Oh, yeah? SUV this
Mike Johnston wrote: > Sheesh, what this list needs is a good censor. Volunteering? :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
My new SV
G'day all, Just picked up a SV with a 50 f1.4 lens. In previous discussions, there was a mention of the early 8 element 7 group. The lens is the 8 element lens and is in mint condition. My original Spotmatic I bought new had the 55 f1.8 and I bought a used 50 f1.4 for sports photography. The lens was fabulous in doors but the contrast outdoors was ordinary. for that reason, I always preferred the 55 f1.8 as my "normal" lens. For the rest, the camera is in almost mint condition with no brassing. Included was a soft case in excellent condition. However, the second shutter is slow off the mark on slow speeds, and the frame counter does not advance. Based on the overall condition, it is off to C.R. Kennedy for a CLA. What is the realistic value of the camera? I paid about 75 USD for it. Thanks in advance, Bob Rapp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX with LX screens, more elaboration.
Hello > > I just signed up to the list and I find something useful right > away. > > Hi L! (what's your name, BTW?) It's Levente (or Levi) I just like to initial my e-mails regardless of the preset signature that actually had my name (or it should have) I am from Hungary, I study in the states now. (at least for a few more days, until the semester is over) > I'm sorry for my late reply, but I took the time to make some > side by side comparison between bodies and screens. I feel I > made a hurried statement, so I have to clear myself... :-) No hurry. > Let's make a step back. I wrote I wouldn't mount a SG-60 or one > of the new LX screen due to a bad vignetting in the finder. This > is true, but it's effective with a normal or short lens and, I > admit I had no time to explain better, if you wear glasses (so I don't actually. > do I...). The problem is due to the kind of eyepiece and > magnification of the MX too: the LX has a longer eyepoint, so I > can see the entire frame. I can't do that with the MX. I have to > move slightly the eye to have a complete view. With one of the > new screens (as I said, I tried first with the SG-60) and the > 50/1.7 I could barely see the center of the frame... Hmmm. I never had any problems like that. Well, I got my self an eyepiece not long ago and with that I noticed the same thing I guess. I just avoid using it unless I know it will be too bright for me to see the lightmeter. > I can confirm for sure about the vignetting, but I had no > intention to state something as a rule. OK. So viewing screen gets darker around the edges with the SG-60. > Well... > Few hours ago I started to try every possible screen/lens > coupling. > I mounted in the MX the following screens: SE-25, SC-26, SE-60. > Since you want to do astrophotography I used the 300/4, alone > and with a 2x converter (I could have used a true 600/8 and > attach to it different converters - maybe I'll do in the > following days), and tried some shorter lens anyway, just to > have a reference. Well. I might have confused you a bit too. I experiment with astro and I do have one of the astro LX screens, though I did not get to try it out yet because a few weeks ago I killed my MX while taking pictures of the meteor shower. I was stupid enough to fire it locked with a defective cord that takes some extra phisical effort to push. (Actually the cord died the same night just a little earlier) So I could not get it fixed yet and it seems I will only be able to after christmas in Hungary. But there I will not have access to the Astronomy department's telescope. So that screen will not really serve me too well unless I find a telescope in Hungary that I can use. (not likely but possible) So I already have the Clear-glass with center cross (SD-11) screen. Someone here was explaining how to focus with it. That I did not really understand so I would appreciate some claification on that too. (remember I am just an enthusiastic beginner who immediately wants to do all the fun stuff, astro, infrared :)) I know I am ahead of the game) I can tell you this. When I was taking pictures of Saturn with a telescope I did not see jack but the split prism in the wa of focusing. Focusing is NOT EASY. Positioning the subject in the middle isn't either. So I had the planet off the one side or the other. (well the other reason for that was the split prism) Also somebody mentioned that subjet has to be steady. Well with astronomy we just wish that it is steady. (but of course if it is not, it's gonan be crap anyway) So I have a hard time seeing how I should condentrate on the center cross or hair or whatever... I was glad to be alive and in focus last time I did this. So after christmas I will be taking pictures of more landscapes, architecture, etc. (Budapest) More street photography. In fact birds and people unaware of my taking pictures is the reason why I want to get a mirror lens. (looking at 600mm Sigma) The only other screen I have is the default MX split prism with microprisim collar and it is quite scratched up. So I figured go LX. Get the SE-60 totaly unmarked matte one and the new SC-69 that is just like the default screen just supposedly brighter. My other lenses are 24mm f2.8, 50mm f1.4, 135mm f2.5, 50-250mm f4. So the SC-69 and the SE-60 will be used with these. Not with a telescope or a mirror lens. When I will get the mirror lens I figured I will need to get a screen that was designed for such lenses. SA-26, SC-26, SE-25. As I said earlier birds and people is what I will mainly be shooting with the mirror lens. I was just about to order the SC-69 and SE-60 when I read the mail on the list. (the super tele screen I will wait with until I get the lens) So I hope this really clarifies the situation. > The SE-25 is not a great screen, I don't like it even with the > LX... The vignetting is visible, but significantly less than > with a normal lens mounted (to be precise: the
