Re: OT: Suffering for your art
Hi, Bob Walkden wrote: Perhaps he means that travelling in air-conditioned comfort (or, discomfort as you suggest) is hardly the way my great hero Capt. Sir Richard Francis Burton would have done it...:o). Correct. You are a great disappointment to us 8-) To make up for this I will send you a hair shirt to wear for the duration of your stay - and no washing it! In Sunderland where Mike comes from men are men and sheep are worried. Even in the depths of the coldest winter the most they wear is jeans and a black t-shirt. ...and the girls wear less. Once you've been around town on a February evening, with the sleet whipping in from the North Sea and you've seen the sweet young things tripping gaily from pub to bar to club clad in strappy sandals, a miniskirt and a boob tube you lose all desire to live in the great metropolis. There has to be some reason to live here... mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Brief overview of the Spotmatic lenses
Hi, I assumed it was a typo - d e are close on the k'board. Just struck me as aposite, with the photography connection. Not being picky... mike Steve Larson wrote: That`s an interesting bit of trivia. Too bad I didn`t get it right. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:51 AM Subject: RE: Brief overview of the Spotmatic lenses I wondered if anyone, besides me, would notice that. No holds barred used to be a wrestling term. Len --- -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brief overview of the Spotmatic lenses Hi, Steve Larson wrote: some no holes barred equipment. Especially pinholes. mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Which high speed BW film?
I have used and liked Delta 3200.I was supprised at how GOOD the grain was (rated at 3200) I used it for evening shots (after dusk) outside. Alan Hi! My friend asked me to make some photos of his band and I need your help with it. I own him a favor so I couldn't refuse even though I was tempted doing so. Making photos for pure fun is something totaly different for me than making them for somebody. I warned him that I'm an ameteur but he said that he and his fellows liked my photos that I have on my website and like to give me a try. They want indoor shots of the band and portrait like shots of each member (lucky for me only four of them). In addition they want some of their equipment photographed as well. It all would have to be done in a place where they practice - some technical rooms in the dorms - I think without windows (it would be in the evening anyway). What I have is AF-201SA flash (don't know if even bother to take it) and two 500 watt halogen, garden lamps. They want the pictures in BW (no way to do something else with this lighting anyway). As I've been experimenting with it a bit with this lamps (bought them very recently) it seem that for reasonable short time something like ISO 1600 or even 3200 would be necessary. And now for the question - which film would you suggest to use? Maybe to different ones for people and gear shooting? I've heard good opinions about Fuji Neopan 1600, but maybe something else would be a better choice? Maybe some other film push processed? I normally use Ilford XP2 (ISO 400) and process everything in the lab - the BW films would be processed in a pro lab as well. I might give a try something with a big grain but not for all the shots. Help! Any other tips would also be welcomed. Thanks Maciej Marchlewski - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Do not copy this e-mail or any attachments, use the contents for any purpose, or disclose the contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: It's February, It Must Be A Cotty's Pentax Mods Site Update...
In a message dated 04/02/02 19:11:17 GMT Standard Time, Steve writes: PS - I'm starting to get excited: my new toy has completed stage one of it's journey to me Pray, do tell - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AP reports on UK photo show - Pentax content, plus Contax digital...
In a message dated 04/02/02 23:48:42 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nicholas Camera Company, 15 High St, London (0207 916 7251) are advertising a lot headed simply: 'Property of a Gentleman' (!) and then lists a load of expensive stuff like a Nikon S3 2000 model, plus some Nikon junk, er lenses, but interestingly: '2000 Pentax Mirror - adapted to suit any SLR' I take it that this means he *can* adapt it? Or have they machined a Tamron Adaptall mount on it? 2000mm!! Sheesh. I'd be able to see most of you from here, looking through that :-) Is that old rascal still in business? I could tell you a few stories.:) Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Spotmatic Pentiprism Wanted
Hi All, Anyone have a Spotmatic pentiprism lying around that you would like to get rid of? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: It's February, It Must Be A Cotty's Pentax Mods Site Update...
Oh hell! Do we have a digital Cotty? Malcolm Cotty wrote: PS - I'm starting to get excited: my new toy has completed stage one of it's journey to me Nope. But it could go on a digital body. It's BIG. ;-) ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: General - Manual downloads
I guess that you missed the Pentax manuals URL last week. Lots of us own other cameras as well as Pentax and pointers to old manuals, even digital cameras, are valuable resources. Len --- -Original Message- From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: General - Manual downloads But where's Pentax? or am I missing something? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classic Low Speed Film is Back
Monday, February 04, 2002, 6:33:40 PM, jmadams wrote: j For anyone who wants to order direct from Germany, this is the price list. j http://fotoimpex.de/Home/films/films.html Unfortunately it in Eurocrap and j not Marks so have no idea of the actual cost. j James Eurocrap ;-) ? And this comes from one of our Canandian friends - how's your CrapDollar(tm) today ;-) ? Back on topic - I am quite interested in DoubleX (Kodak XX) - any info on it? It seems it is still available new from movie sources, and few prints I have seen, were, hm, EXQUISITE in tonality. Any info please? Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
Hi, I do a lot of concert photography at often impossible venues (wrt to light g), as well as available dark photography. I have yet to find a liking for the Delta3200/TMZ3200 films (I dislike them so far, but perhaps I haven't found yet a perfect devel. combo for them. The TMZ I tried in Tmax dev, and it quite sucked grain-wise). Having relatively fast lenses (surprisingly, a 1.4/50 is one of my most used concert lenses. Being sidestage helps of course), I usually push to 1600. I use Ilford HP5+ mostly (a friend uses TX), which is 400 film. Developed in Microphen (stock) (oneshot), pushed to 1600, it works perfectly. Much better than pushing a T-grain film, IMHO (From my humble experience and that of others as well, the 400 speed T grain films don't push well at all, requiring too much hard grade printing to get any shadow separation). The HP5+/TX are IMHO one of the best films ever for pushprocessing, I have even pushed HP5+ to 3200 (although that requires a more flat lighting than usually on stage for best results, and precise exposure) with nice results. Of course, if you have slow lenses or need the speed really much, perhaps only a Delta 3200 or similar would do the job. Others here have much experience with them up to 6400 or 12500 I think. Good dark, Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: : (3): OT:first attempt at html page
Thanks Mark.I'll look at it today. Dave Begin Original Message From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 07:53:46 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (2): OT:first attempt at html page You might want to try out a real HTML code validator to let you know when you've made mistakes and what they are. It can be really frustrating at first but it's well worth a little initial effort. You can download a 30-day trial version of A Real Validator at http://arealvalidator.com/ It's a good piece of software and it's only $25.00 to register it after 30 days. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF280T- Downloadable Manuals at Pentax.com
If you have a CD-ROM burner, or a Zip drive, you could mail all of the files to one or both of them. If you have a digital camera that uses compact flash cards, you could send the whole set on a compact flash card, too. Lots of options exist for moving large files without the Internet. 700K is not too large to e-mail, just send one or two a day untill all are sent. You could send the whole batch on the same weekend night. I've done 100MB downloads using a 56K modem. I just started the download and went to bed. Sometime the next morning the download was finished. I began my modem life using a 300-baud modem. Things have been getting amazingly fast ever since then. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AF280T- Downloadable Manuals at Pentax.com As I noted before, I scanned an AF280T manual Saturday and am looking to hand it off to somebody to host it and put it into a pdf format. I've got a couple of volunteers (Christian S. and Fritz W.), but am just now figuring out how to send 16 jpg's of 700K out on my 56K modem. :-( What about some of our other members who are posting manuals? Would you want this one too? Regards, Bob S. - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Who owns a photo?
Wendy's post (model release form) brought a question to mind. A friend took some pictures of his (now ex-) wife for personal use. When she left she took the photos with her and allowed them to be published on-line. Because he feels these photos are personal he isn't happy to see them posted on the web. Although I'm sure it isn't worth legal action, can he advise the site to remove the photos with the threat of legal action? Julie - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Model release forms
Kid photos, unless they are your kids, have required model releases from the parents or guardians for a long time. Pets kind of fall under the heading of property in many places. In lots of places, you need to get permision from owners before you sell, or publish, pictures of their pets or houses. Public buildings are usually OK but there may be some exceptions. There are some national parks where, if you use a tripod, you need to buy a license to use it to make photos inside the park. The thought being that, if you are using a tripod, you are a pro and the government wants a share of your potential income from the photos, up front, before you are allowed to use the tripod to take them. It used to be about $20 for the permit. May cost more now. These are the biggest reasons I don't submit my pictures to the PUG. They are 95% mug shots (weddings, portraits, stuff like that) and putting them on the web is publishing. There are tons of people who don't want to run across their pictures on the web, and I can't afford the ensuing law suits. So, better safe, than sorry. Len --- -Original Message- From: wendy beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Model release forms After Bill posted about the inflatable ringflash, I went and had a look around the Turek Camera website. I had to have a nosey at the photo contest, of course. I even read the rules of entry. The very last one surprised me - I quote: 9) For categories including people or pets, a model release is required. Where the photo taken is of a minor a parent or guardian's signature is required. With pets, the pet's owner's signature is required. Model release forms will be available at Turek Camera Shop. You're all going to tell me that this is perfectly normal, but I swear I've never come across anything like this before. Is it a North American Thing or is it everywhere? Wendy (who also mis-read pet's signature required) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Model release forms
Hoping for some moment of fame, I guess. Len --- -Original Message- From: Ken Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Jones Subject: Re: Model release forms Sign that contest entry blank and, win or lose, you won't be able to use your own picture any more. I still don't understand why people think so little of their work that they are willing to give it away in perpetuity and then thank the publications and contest promoters for taking them. On Monday 04 February 2002 10:43 pm, Paul Jones wrote: 4)Turek Camera Shop reserves the right to publish any entries without compensation to the creator of said photo. All entries become the property of Turek Camera Shop. regards, Paul -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Brief overview of the Spotmatic lenses
Hey, so did I, but it was a very funny typo. I was more amazed that it didn't go unnoticed. It also strikes me as odd that your spell checker wouldn't catch aposite. :) Len --- -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brief overview of the Spotmatic lenses Hi, I assumed it was a typo - d e are close on the k'board. Just struck me as aposite, with the photography connection. Not being picky... mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: Take two MZ-S's and call me when you get back
Sounds to me like the feature the MZ-S was lacking on this trip was a case! Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ringflash
Just received this from the Oly list. What do you folks think? At ~$30.00 CDN I'd like to try one. DON'T BUY IT. We had a bunch of those inflatable ring flash adaptors that we paid $2 each for at a clearance when one of our suppliers bought another and ditched all the junk languishing in their warehouse. The thing is basically useless, has odd highlights and is nearly impossible to keep on the camera. Also, $30 is way way way too much. I felt bad selling them for $5. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 03:25 AM, Alan Abbott wrote: I have used and liked Delta 3200.I was supprised at how GOOD the grain was (rated at 3200) I used it for evening shots (after dusk) outside. Yep, I love Ilford Delta 3200, done in the right developer. I've seen some comparatively horrid results from it in T-Max developer. I like it a whole lot in Ilford's Microphen and DD-X and also Agfa Studional. I have some recent stuff from the new 75mm on Delta 3200 that I'll be processing probably later today...I'll make a scan if I get a chance. Of course, it'll be from 67, but I'll blow up a 35mm sized section of the neg to show the grain. I was shooting under household incandescent lights, so I rated the film at 1600. I'll be processing normally. -Aaron high speed film junkie - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Kodak digi-printer
On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 12:35 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:49:02 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: It's expected to sell for under $40,000.00 (U.S.), an new and much lower price point for such technology. What does a (semi-) wet minilab go for these days? Last time I checked, a Fuji Frontier started at around $150,000 CDN and went to about $250,000 with options. I don't think that there's anything for less than $100,000. Oh, and that's without a film processor, that's just the printer part. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Spotmatic Pentiprism Wanted
Try this guy: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/nikonfl/ he parts out old cameras including spotties. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
Hi Maciej I use Ilford's HP5+ pushed to both 1600 and 3200 quite often. Developed in Kodak T-Max Pro the results are extremely good. Take a look at the hockey examples I have on my website: http://www.wrightfoto.com/proofs/hockey2001/MHS/index.html Both of those games were shot with this film at 3200iso. Good luck, Nick --- Maciej Marchlewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! My friend asked me to make some photos of his band and I need your help with it. I own him a favor so I couldn't refuse even though I was tempted doing so. Making photos for pure fun is something totaly different for me than making them for somebody. I warned him that I'm an ameteur but he said that he and his fellows liked my photos that I have on my website and like to give me a try. They want indoor shots of the band and portrait like shots of each member (lucky for me only four of them). In addition they want some of their equipment photographed as well. It all would have to be done in a place where they practice - some technical rooms in the dorms - I think without windows (it would be in the evening anyway). What I have is AF-201SA flash (don't know if even bother to take it) and two 500 watt halogen, garden lamps. They want the pictures in BW (no way to do something else with this lighting anyway). As I've been experimenting with it a bit with this lamps (bought them very recently) it seem that for reasonable short time something like ISO 1600 or even 3200 would be necessary. And now for the question - which film would you suggest to use? Maybe to different ones for people and gear shooting? I've heard good opinions about Fuji Neopan 1600, but maybe something else would be a better choice? Maybe some other film push processed? I normally use Ilford XP2 (ISO 400) and process everything in the lab - the BW films would be processed in a pro lab as well. I might give a try something with a big grain but not for all the shots. Help! Any other tips would also be welcomed. Thanks Maciej Marchlewski - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Who owns a photo?
Thanks for the replies. these photos were taken while they were married, they may be joint owners. (They would be in my state.) I expect this is correct since we are in a joint property state. And, like I said, it's different in various jurisdictions anyway. Unfortunately, if he wants a definitive opinion, he'll likely have to contact a local lawyer. I doubt he is willing to go to the expense of hiring a lawer since he's paid them plenty so far for the divorce. But who knows, there are still many bitter feelings there. Julie - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (2): OT:first attempt at html page
--- David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Deb.I did not notice those things.I dont have a book yet,just going by the tutorial and things the other members have talked about recently.I realy need to figure out how to load up thumbnails and such. One query,how did you get at the code.?? Dave It's a deep, dark secret known only to the elite, i.e. computer science students. In Netscape, click View then Page Source. In Explorer, click View then Source. This will show the html code for whatever page you're looking at. Try it now. Alternatively, you can open your webpage that you have saved on your computer in Notepad. Start Notepad, then browse to the page you have. In the Open screen, make sure you have All File s selected from the File Type field. I prefer to use Notepad when writing or viewing HTML code. For one thing, you can change the code all you want, something the View option on the browser doesn't do. You can create pages with page builders like Frontpage or Netscape Composer. The thing I don't like about that, and this is especially true of Frontpage, is that you wind up with a lot of extra stuff in your code. Composer is more simplistic, but it's free and good for basic pages. The benefit of hand-coding is that you get exactly what you want. In a way, it's kind of like the difference between a point-and-shoot and a K1000. Have fun, Deb Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: : (4): OT:first attempt at html page
Thanks Shel.Book marked Dave Begin Original Message From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 08:28:07 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: : (3): OT:first attempt at html page Of course, the URL might help g http://validator.w3.org/ Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi David ... Here's a free source for checking a few pages. You can also get a regular tune-up, also at no cost. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: EBay bizarre WTB posting
That's what I thought, but I checked his feedback, and it looks like he has had some success buying and selling on eBay. His feedback looked very good, but then I'd give great praise to anyone who gave me 1,000 Pounds (or dollars, or even Euros) for one of my 50mm lenses! Mike Johnston wrote: There's a phrase for that kind of fellow...Not on the right page. Let's hope he figures out how eBay works one day...g -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: (2): OT:first attempt at html page
And here's a great shareware program for writing and editing HTML: http://www.studioware.com/ Debra Wilborn wrote: I prefer to use Notepad when writing or viewing HTML code. For one thing, you can change the code all you want, something the View option on the browser doesn't do. You can create pages with page builders like Frontpage or Netscape Composer. The thing I don't like about that, and this is especially true of Frontpage, is that you wind up with a lot of extra stuff in your code. Composer is more simplistic, but it's free and good for basic pages. The benefit of hand-coding is that you get exactly what you want. In a way, it's kind of like the difference between a point-and-shoot and a K1000. Have fun, Deb Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 10:11 AM, Alan Abbott wrote: I had mine processed by Ilford with one of those envelopes (given away free) Does anyone know what Ilford would of used as developer? A secret brew or one that they sell! If they are running a dip dunk line, they're most likely using Ilfotec DD-X, which was developed (if I'm remembering right) for dip dunk. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
Well, IMO, these are terrible. In many photos there's no detail in the black parts of the uniform and on the helmets, the ice and highlights are burnt out, and faces have lost detail and contrast. The results are typical of push-processed film. My feeling is that one would be better advised to use a faster film to start with, or at least not push a 400 speed film so far. Nick Wright wrote: I use Ilford's HP5+ pushed to both 1600 and 3200 quite often. Developed in Kodak T-Max Pro the results are extremely good. Take a look at the hockey examples I have on my website: http://www.wrightfoto.com/proofs/hockey2001/MHS/index.html Both of those games were shot with this film at 3200iso. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Who owns a photo?
Whining over photos left over from a divorce is not very becoming of a man. To me, it shows... bitterness, or possibly vindictiveness, and is probably accompanied by all the usual rationalization folks put forth in their attempts to claim it's all about righteousness. Yeah, I'm always opinionated. Regards, Bob... Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event. - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the replies. these photos were taken while they were married, they may be joint owners. (They would be in my state.) I expect this is correct since we are in a joint property state. And, like I said, it's different in various jurisdictions anyway. Unfortunately, if he wants a definitive opinion, he'll likely have to contact a local lawyer. I doubt he is willing to go to the expense of hiring a lawer since he's paid them plenty so far for the divorce. But who knows, there are still many bitter feelings there. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: (2a): OT:first attempt at html page
Thanks Deb.Another list member clued me in earlier to day.You people are sneaky.g I also used Notepad to start the page.I'm just debating if i'll go frontpage etc or not. I won't tell my K1000 what you compared him to. Its sensative and may run a way. lol. Dave Begin Original Message From: Debra Wilborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (2): OT:first attempt at html page One query,how did you get at the code.?? Dave It's a deep, dark secret known only to the elite, i.e. computer science students. In Netscape, click View then Page Source. In Explorer, click View then Source. This will show the html code for whatever page you're looking at. Try it now. In a way, it's kind of like the difference between a point-and-shoot and a K1000. Have fun, Deb Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??
Hey guys, I've enjoyed a lot of the recent threads about Spotties on the list. Some good info and commentary on the lenses. This got me thinking: Does any one know approx. how many of the Spotmatic F's were produced? Also, of these, how many were black body versions? I have seen lots of black spots but few black spot f's. Perhaps it's because folks covet them so much that they're rarely up for sale? Regards, Brendan recently Spottie enabled MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Who owns a photo?
You forgot mean spiritedness. National People's Radio should keep that right on the tip of your tongue, for instant use. Len --- -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Who owns a photo? Whining over photos left over from a divorce is not very becoming of a man. To me, it shows... bitterness, or possibly vindictiveness, and is probably accompanied by all the usual rationalization folks put forth in their attempts to claim it's all about righteousness. Yeah, I'm always opinionated. Regards, Bob... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Where can I get a BIG lenscap?
Steve, http://www.2filter.com sells Schneider press-on caps as large as 132mm, including 100, 105, 110, 112, 115, 120, and 125. for $18.70. Steve Mundie wrote: I purchased an old S-M-C Takumar 500/4.5 from a local shop which shut down but it needs a front lens cap. The front element is rather large and I'd just like to protect it a bit... Can anyone suggest where I might get something to protect the front element? [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classic Low Speed Film is Back
Hi Frantisek and Stefan Meant no offence, I'm not Canadian(yet), I am from the UK and have only been in Canada 2 1/2 years. I dislike the whole concept of the EEC and hence the Euro. But it was wrong of me to abuse the privilege of being a PDML member. It is something to discuss elsewhere or at least off list. My apologies to all. James - Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jmadams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:47 AM Subject: Re: Classic Low Speed Film is Back Monday, February 04, 2002, 6:33:40 PM, jmadams wrote: j For anyone who wants to order direct from Germany, this is the price list. j http://fotoimpex.de/Home/films/films.html Unfortunately it in Eurocrap and j not Marks so have no idea of the actual cost. j James Eurocrap ;-) ? And this comes from one of our Canandian friends - how's your CrapDollar(tm) today ;-) ? Back on topic - I am quite interested in DoubleX (Kodak XX) - any info on it? It seems it is still available new from movie sources, and few prints I have seen, were, hm, EXQUISITE in tonality. Any info please? Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Magnifier for Super Program?
I'm thinking about buying a magnifier for my Super Programs. The model designed for it, the Magnifier M, is not available new or, near as I can tell, used in the States. I do have a couple sources for used Magnifier M's in Europe. But according to Boz's site, the Magnifier F can be used on the Super A and other 1980s M and A models. The F is readily available new, at a modest price. Would using the M offer me any advantages on a Super Program? [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 01:02 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Well, IMO, these are terrible. In many photos there's no detail in the black parts of the uniform and on the helmets, the ice and highlights are burnt out, and faces have lost detail and contrast. The results are typical of push-processed film. I don't think we can really judge the prints from these scans. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA
Regarding the compatibility of older wide-angle lenses with full-frame CCDs, this on the red herring of CCD illumination from optical supplier Sunix, Inc. at http://www.optics-online.com/literature/CCDlens.htm : The light collection ability of all lenses falls off with increasing field of view. Relative illumination of a lens is defined as the ratio of light intensity at the maximum angle of view to that on-axis. For electronic imager sensors (CCD and CMOS), the off-axis brightness is further reduced by the collection efficiency of imager pixel structure. Many modern imagers use a micro-lens over each pixel to increase the fill-factor. The micro-lens will limit the field of view of the pixel. To be maximally compatible with the micro-lens field of view, the rays emerging from the lens must be within the acceptance angle of the micro-lens for all off-axis rays. This typically require that the primary lens be telecentric in imaging spacing. Non-telecentric lenses can also cause color and resolution cross-talk between adjacent pixels. This will further impair the off-axis performance of the imaging system. Even if sufficient light reaches all of the CCD, the various wavelengths of that light must, of course, be carefully focused. In his survey of Nikon lenses, nature photographer Bjorn Rørslett commented: The presence of colour fringing is in fact typical for most modern designs, since elimination of chromatic aberrations evidently is given fairly low priority. Hopefully, the coming digital era will alter the priorities here since digital cameras do need better chromatic correction than contemporary models. So, if the CCD must receive the various wave lengths of light focused as tightly as possible (something that may have been less of a priority in the decades before digital imaging--read Pentax SMC, M, A, F, FA--than it will become as we are dragged, even if kicking and screaming, into the digital era), we should ask: How close to apochromatic are various Pentax wide-angle lenses? If Pentax invested more effort than other manufacturers in correction of chromatic aberrations, the possibility of a full-frame sensor might be higher than if Pentax gave only average, or below average, priority to that aspect of lens design. Now, what if it isn't just that a given lens must work well with a CCD, but with a _particular_ CCD? Mr. Rørslett reports that a wide angle lens can perform differently even with CCDs of the same size: The 14mm ultra-wide angle lens Nikon designed to give real wide angle performance to a digital camera which includes an effective focal length multiplier (the 2.66 megapixel D1) produces increased color fringing with another CCD of the same 15.6 x 23.7mm size (in the 5.47 megapixel D1X). Oops. The Contax full-frame digital SLR works only with a new series of lenses which were designed specifically for the new range of (autofocus) cameras, which included the planned digital model from inception. The counting teeth scenario isn't relevant here: The question is whether existing Pentax wide-angle lenses will work with a full-frame CCD, not if lenses of a new design will work with a new Contax model. Perhaps the use of older wide angle lenses on a future full-frame sensor Nikon model will give us a hint, even if Pentax won't open up and say Aaaah. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
Hi Aaron, Unless the scans are way off, I think we can get a pretty good idea of what the final results might be like. Your comment is interesting in light of the recent discussion about the size and quality of PUG images, in which numerous people (including you, I believe) suggested that the PUG images and scans viewed on a computer screen give a reasonable enough representation of the final image. So, unless the quality of these scans is abysmal - which they could be - I'd have to stand by my original comment. And, the quality of the photos or the scanned images notwithstanding, don't you feel that the quality of any photograph might suffer when the film is pushed 3 stops, especially when compared to using a faster film at or near its rated ISO? I'll grant you that some film/developer combinations may result in better quality than others, but overall, the faster film is often the better alternative. BTW, is T-Max Pro a different developer than T-Max? Maybe T-Max is not the best developer for this film. Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 01:02 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't think we can really judge the prints from these scans. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classic Low Speed Film is Back
I could only find Kodak Super XX in my search on Google, and an interest URL is http://www.michaelandpaula.com/tech.html#Topofpage According to them, it was discontinued in 1994, and they claim to have bought out the last of Kodaks stock(Sheet film). - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Classic Low Speed Film is Back Where have you seen XX? It could be of some interest here. Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Back on topic - I am quite interested in DoubleX (Kodak XX) - any info on it? It seems it is still available new from movie sources, and few prints I have seen, were, hm, EXQUISITE in tonality. Any info please? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: EBay bizarre WTB posting
I think you're reading the ad wrong. I believe if you bid on it, you're bidding to PAY HIM to let him know where to find one of these lenses. A very exspensive favor! Bill Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's what I thought, but I checked his feedback, and it looks like he has had some success buying and selling on eBay. His feedback looked very good, but then I'd give great praise to anyone who gave me 1,000 Pounds (or dollars, or even Euros) for one of my 50mm lenses! Mike Johnston wrote: There's a phrase for that kind of fellow...Not on the right page. Let's hope he figures out how eBay works one day...g -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Suffering for your art
dave o'brien wrote: Well, if you're riding in air-conditioned comfort on a train in India, you're not riding with the locals, and you're jet-setting around the country. You want to be up on the roof with the ordinary folks. Not exactly. The sleep cars are usually air conditioned in India, and you travel with the locals, although not on the roof of the train. But you wish the cars were not air conditioned. In India, both in trains and buses, air conditioners have only two positions: on and off. On means that you'll travel like if you were into a deep freezer. If then, as it happened to me the last time I went to India, you have got a temperature and you are ill, and you travel at night in one of those trains, the typical Indian air conditioner is a nightmare. The only visible part of my body were my eyes, to the amusement of the locals who were travelling in the same car. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??
I just looked it up in Gerjan's book - the number he gives is 603,885, but the figure isn't broken down between chrome and black. BTW, I've got a black one and I once thought about selling it ... but it's still here g. It's nicely brassed, and mechanically perfect, and it sure gives a lot of pleasure those times that I use it, especially with the Super-Multi-Coated Takumar lenses. It's later edition from what I understand is the earlier batch, with a SN over 4,910,000. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does any one know approx. how many of the Spotmatic F's were produced? Also, of these, how many were black body versions? I have seen lots of black spots but few black spot f's. Perhaps it's because folks covet them so much that they're rarely up for sale? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Magnifier for Super Program?
I'm thinking about buying a magnifier for my Super Programs. The model designed for it, the Magnifier M, is not available new or, near as I can tell, used in the States. I do have a couple sources for used Magnifier M's in Europe. But according to Boz's site, the Magnifier F can be used on the Super A and other 1980s M and A models. The F is readily available new, at a modest price. Would using the M offer me any advantages on a Super Program? Don't know about the M, but I have the F which works perfectly with any Pentax bodies from M to current series. K series bodies use different size magnifier btw. The current model is FB but it looks the same as the F to me. http://www03.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___41404___PEMFB___REG___CatID=301___SID=EC0FB7A8D50 regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Feb PUG - My Faves
Humble thanks, Wendy. On that day, I drove 40 km to shoot frosty landscapes with a friend. When I stepped out of the car I realised I had left the tripod at home... I imagine my feelings were akin to Jack Frost's when he digs through his pockets for something Jostein From Wendy Beard: Frost, 20th November 2001 by Jostein Oksne No, not an episode from the David Jason detective series. A beautiful photo. Just magical. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??
Thanks Shel... I somehow thought you'd be the guy with those figures. I can't wait to take mine out, should be here tomorrow. Seems you can't go wrong with a all manual, metal bodied camera! Tell me, have you noticed any difference between the Super-Multi-Coated Taks and the later SMC tak's color-wise or flare-wise? Also, I understand you can get the split-image conversion done to these babies, have you done this or know someone who has? I would worry that the metering would be off if the screen is brighter. I know Camera Repair Service says they adjust the meter as part of the conversion but that worries me... Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
XX (was: Re: Classic Low Speed Film is Back)
Tuesday, February 05, 2002, 5:15:38 PM, Shel wrote: SB Where have you seen XX? It could be of some interest here. I bet :) Is it a silver rich film, like I was told? UNLIKE the thin-emulsion TX/HP5+ films? The source - a friend mentioned it to me, if I was interested. He mentioned few 120m rolls, apparently somebody from the movie field has some leftover in freeze. I don't know anything more, yet. Anyone has got some tech sheet on the film, please? Or at exposure/beta/iso curves? Thanks Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Ringflash
sorry - articles in Russian but images still in English :) http://www.penta-club.org/penta/archive/2001/005/school_rus.shtml and http://www.penta-club.org/penta/archive/2001/013/school_rus.shtml Den p.s: articles author Andrew Smirnov - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??
Hi Brendan, I've never shot any color through the Takumar lenses, and I always use the deepest lens hoods possible, so flare's never been a consideration. Yeah, I do like some of the older cameras. Anything newer than an LX is too modern for me, and these days I find myself moving further back in time. The last roll I shot was with a 67yo Leica ... it needs a lot of work but I was amazed at how smooth, solid, and quiet it still is. The SP Fs here don't have the split image screen, although it might be a nice upgrade. Don't worry, be happy ... the meters in those old cameras weren't noted for great accuracy, IAC. And so what if the meter's off. You'll be running a test roll or two through that puppy to get it calibrated to your style and needs anyway - right? Why bother to use the meter at all? Take one more step back and go meterless, or use a hand-held meter. You're located down in San Mateo, aren't you? We ought to get together some time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't wait to take mine out, should be here tomorrow. Seems you can't go wrong with a all manual, metal bodied camera! Tell me, have you noticed any difference between the Super-Multi-Coated Taks and the later SMC tak's color-wise or flare-wise? Also, I understand you can get the split-image conversion done to these babies, have you done this or know someone who has? I would worry that the metering would be off if the screen is brighter. I know Camera Repair Service says they adjust the meter as part of the conversion but that worries me... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG Stuff: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?
J.C., If you know html, try to place the code in the commentary field. If you don't of if it doesn't work; provide the HTTP: without tags, and Adelheid or I will add it manually. Jostein (Your AutoPug maintainer) - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: RE: PUG Stuff: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts? I suggest you learn to live within the limitations of the PUG for submissions to it, and put a link within your submission to take the viewer to a larger size image on a different server if you think the image merits it. William Robb Great Idea, a link will do the trick. But I dont remember a window on the submission form to enter the link. Did I miss it? I recall one for a website, could that be used for a link to a larger image? BTW, is it possible to edit a submission after its already entered? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG comments
Thanks, Matjaz. You're right. The reflections is what makes the image. I was quite disappointed about the appearance of the frost on the straw. There was a lot more of it than what appears on the image. That day I had forgotten my tripod at home, so in pure panic I decided to try to push Velvia one stop to get some extra speed working freehand. This is a nice trick when doing forest interiors and such, but here I think the contrasts in the motif are simply too large for the film to cope. Jostein - Original Message - From: Matjaz Osojnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 11:26 PM Subject: PUG comments Hi all, I finally found some time to go through PUG and below are those photographs that caught my eye: No Mail Today by Amita Guha. I like this a lot, especially the contrast of red details on mailbox against misty background. Might be wrong but it seems a bit oversharpened to me. Frost, 20th November 2001 by Jostein Oksne, I like magical feeling of coloured reflections around the plant. The Grey by David J Brooks, very nice cat portrait, I especially like shallow DOF which creates lovely unsharpness of cat's body. Stef On Bike, Northmoor, 2000 by Cotty, I'm glad to see your son support you on PUG assignment so much ;-) Anja in blue by Edward Kreis, just love it. I like the expression on Anja's face, I like shallow DOF with focus on her eyes, I like great colours as well. Trapped !! by Geoffrey Stevens, it enhances solitude feeling to me and that is exactly why I like it. The Event by Gianfranco Irlanda, I love photographs like this one, full of emotions of crowded people in front of the lens. I think I'd love to see man's face on the left on the photo as well, to increase the depth of the photograph. Macro-wide angle by Dan Scott, great shot, love the idea and love the composition. Also got attracted by The Cat by Karoly Kovacs, Leaf by Ed Keeney, peaceful Green Zen by Flavio Minelli, family feeling of G.G. and Mari, Thanksgiving 2001 by Mike Johnston, White Nights by Alexey Tikhonov. Matjaz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A New Photo Upload
Sorry to ALL. Newly created by me forum with links to Pentaxians pages was corrupted for some (two?) days. Just my error. Now it's up and working again: === http://www.penta-club.org/cgi-penta-c/ikonboard/forums.cgi?forum=15 === backup copy in progress (through FTP from the Web to my local computer) now... Den __ The Penta Magazine - online photo magazine www.penta-club.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Who owns a photo?
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: Who owns a photo? Wendy's post (model release form) brought a question to mind. A friend took some pictures of his (now ex-) wife for personal use. When she left she took the photos with her and allowed them to be published on-line. Because he feels these photos are personal he isn't happy to see them posted on the web. Although I'm sure it isn't worth legal action, can he advise the site to remove the photos with the threat of legal action? Sure he can. Unless he in some way has transferred his rights to the publisher ( by giving away, selling or leasing them out) he can order them to remove the pictures and/or sue them for copyright infringement. A simple case. (As for who owns the actual prints, or even the negs - that's a different question, and doesn't have any bearing on the right to copy them. Remember to always distinguish between an actual print (or other type of physical copy) and the rights to said picture.) (Disclaimer - I don't know the meaning of joint property state. Does this mean she can smash my car, my camera, my guitar and set fire to my all my negs and then have to pay for only half of the damages, claiming the stuff actually just as much belongs to her?) Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Suffering for your art
Mike wrote: ...and the girls wear less. [...] and a boob tube you lose all [...] Whao! As still unmarried I must visit Sunderland ASPS. Sorry - still can't get passport for this visit :( Also I can confirm that Sunderland's people are extremely strong. Because they can (and do) wear same Hawai dress and under Russian conditions! (you know - bears and snow on Moscow streets :) Den __ The Penta Magazine - online photo magazine www.penta-club.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: XX (was: Re: Classic Low Speed Film is Back)
This silver rich business has me puzzled. What do people mean by this? What do you mean by it? Recently there was a comment on this subject on the Pure Silver list, and the commentator - someone held in high esteem for his knowledge and experience - said that the silver rich theory is so much nonsense, and that the newer films have a good deal of silver in them, it's just that their grain structure is different. I believe that there may be more silver in older emulsions, but I don't really know. Maybe older emulsions need more silver because the grains of silver are more random in size and shape than T-grain or Delta-style films. Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Is it a silver rich film, like I was told? UNLIKE the thin-emulsion TX/HP5+ films? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG ping?
Folks, From here the PUG seems to be down again. However, it doesn't seem to be the server itself. The browser finds the server and tries to open the page but the response times out. I tried to ping it a couple of times, and the response was around 320 ms on average over a (brand new, yipee) ADSL line. FWIW... Jostein - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Irish Draught and February PUG
So I finally got to sit and have a deep look into this month's gallery. I've got something from the upper shelf in the store to stand up for the PUG but it didn't work out - the pictures suprised me with the quality again. I like a lot of stuff from this month and this are some that worked the best for me at this moment: - BristleCone Pine by Bruce Dayton - You got me interested in those pines, too. Very well lited with enough of sharpness behind to recognize the background. Very good use of DOF :-) - The view from a chess board. by Byron Butler - great perspective! Seems like you've pushed this lens' DOF to its limits. If not for the commentary I might ask the same question as your co-workers did. - Green Zen by Flavio Minelli - a quote from you: This picture inspires calm and meditation, just like those japanese gardens. - true, true! (and I'm not saying this because of the beverage). Great pic! - Leaf by Ed Keeney - a very nice one, a little abstract image. Except for very well blurred background I enjoyed the colors that bring all the positive feelings I have when thinking of autumn. - Peachy by Steve Larson - very tasty one. So it seems I preffered shallow depth of field for this theme. Don't know why... And then there is a special word of appreciation for having shalow and deep DOF in one shot: - Macro-wide angle by Dan Scott - very nice trick. Greetings Maciej Marchlewski - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Where can I get a BIG lenscap?
http://www.2filter.com sells Schneider press-on caps as large as 132mm, including 100, 105, 110, 112, 115, 120, and 125. for $18.70. Steve Mundie wrote: I purchased an old S-M-C Takumar 500/4.5 from a local shop which shut down but it needs a front lens cap. The front element is rather large and I'd just like to protect it a bit... Can anyone suggest where I might get something to protect the front element? Hmmm, 112mm, eh? (Mutley laugh again) ;-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite body, lens, film and more...
On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 06:58 PM, Jody wrote: --- Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Favorite body: 6x7 What, you think Aaron's gonna come and get you or something? I'm sure you really meant to say LX there. No, I'm sure that Gianfranco chose the 6x7 because he truly loves the 6x7, not because of any threats, perceived or otherwise. RIGHT?? -Aaron ;) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Anybody wants an LX Gold?
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1330869563 Not my auction (I wouldn't part with something like that...). Gianfranco = Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite body, lens, film and more...
Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 06:58 PM, Jody wrote: What, you think Aaron's gonna come and get you or something? I'm sure you really meant to say LX there. No, I'm sure that Gianfranco chose the 6x7 because he truly loves the 6x7, not because of any threats, perceived or otherwise. RIGHT?? What could happen to me if I answer 'almost'??? ;-D Gianfranco = Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Temporary dropout
Quick everyone, post your flower pictures!! annsan Mike Johnston wrote: Hey friends, I must leave the list for a few days to concentrate on work. I'll be looking forward to getting back again--see you soon. Be good! s --Mike * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Pentax Spotmatics, Apple Macs, stick shifts, jazz on vinyl, hardback books, Tri-X in D-76, and home darkrooms forever! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Send a Kiwi To Camp
And of course you will also talk to my boss and explain why I need the time off. At the moment we are so short staffed I am going to be lucky to get time off to sit my exams. I've never tried home-brew, I imagine it tastes much like beer only worse - yuck!!! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: And you'll use the funds to send Jody a ticket, right? Of course! If there's any left over we'll get you some beer making supplies. tv http://greetings.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Greetings - Send your Valentines love online. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No Pentax digital SLR at PMA
Thanks, Brian, for going the extra yard to get an expert point of view from within the optical industry (rather than yet another I reckon that ... blah, blah, blah). But somehow I fear that, within two months, someone who missed this thread, or the previous thread on the subject, or the one before that, will enlighten us that all the rumours of digital wide-angle problems are just fear mongering, and that it really makes no difference whether it's film or electronics at the focal plane because the light doesn't know what it's striking! Gawd spare me! Read my lips: film is not the same as an imaging chip, it has some similarities but it also has significant differences. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Brian Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regarding the compatibility of older wide-angle lenses with full-frame CCDs, this on the red herring of CCD illumination from optical supplier Sunix, Inc. at http://www.optics-online.com/literature/CCDlens.htm : (snip) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Annual cancer research fundraising project
Mark Roberts wrote: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark - lots of nice stuff - hope it brings in the bucks for you. Not for me. For the cancer babies as Lisa calls them (in pediatrics, anyone under age 20 is a baby). Oh I knew that - I meant the larger you :) One of the stormy cloud shots quite startled me - I swear it was the same cloud formation I photoed in Kansas! i'll dig it up and post it for you. That was taken about a quarter of a mile from my house (although I had to hike about a mile through the local trails to get there). Love that SMC-A 20/2.8! I found the shot but haven't scanned it yet -- not quite as close to yours as I remembered but I'll show it anyway. THe flowers here among my faves here, by the way. Uh-oh! I know, I'm hiding from Mike J. :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Irish Draught and February PUG
Hi Maciej, Thank you very much! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Maciej Marchlewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Irish Draught and February PUG So I finally got to sit and have a deep look into this month's gallery. I've got something from the upper shelf in the store to stand up for the PUG but it didn't work out - the pictures suprised me with the quality again. I like a lot of stuff from this month and this are some that worked the best for me at this moment: - BristleCone Pine by Bruce Dayton - You got me interested in those pines, too. Very well lited with enough of sharpness behind to recognize the background. Very good use of DOF :-) - The view from a chess board. by Byron Butler - great perspective! Seems like you've pushed this lens' DOF to its limits. If not for the commentary I might ask the same question as your co-workers did. - Green Zen by Flavio Minelli - a quote from you: This picture inspires calm and meditation, just like those japanese gardens. - true, true! (and I'm not saying this because of the beverage). Great pic! - Leaf by Ed Keeney - a very nice one, a little abstract image. Except for very well blurred background I enjoyed the colors that bring all the positive feelings I have when thinking of autumn. - Peachy by Steve Larson - very tasty one. So it seems I preffered shallow depth of field for this theme. Don't know why... And then there is a special word of appreciation for having shalow and deep DOF in one shot: - Macro-wide angle by Dan Scott - very nice trick. Greetings Maciej Marchlewski - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ann's Butterfly Near Phoenix
I believe it was Walter Brennen on an old TV western that said, It ain't brag if you've done it. Well girl, you've don't it and it's beautiful. On Tuesday 05 February 2002 05:36 pm, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I've tended to say thanks and aw shucks privately to those who like my stuff but I'm allowing my self a public aw shucks now. I can't tell you all how much this means to me right now. I wish I could make a living at this! ann -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Temporary dropout
Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick everyone, post your flower pictures!! annsan And cats pictures!!! Don't you forget cats! Gianfranco (with 20 cats sitting around...) Mike Johnston wrote: Hey friends, I must leave the list for a few days to concentrate on work. I'll be looking forward to getting back again--see you soon. Be good! = Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
Shel Belinkoff wrote: And, the quality of the photos or the scanned images notwithstanding, don't you feel that the quality of any photograph might suffer when the film is pushed 3 stops, especially when compared to using a faster film at or near its rated ISO? I don't understand the purpose of pushing a medium speed film to 1600 or 3200 when there are some excellent high speed films available. Have to agree with you there. I think the gentleman's hockey shots were quite good in terms of framing, focus, action, and other purely pictorial considerations. They deserve a better film. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody wants an LX Gold?
I saw a gold LX at Camera World of Oregon a few years ago. It didn't look like this one. If the reserve is so small, could this LX be one that someone other than Pentax made? Jim A. From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 16:48:47 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anybody wants an LX Gold? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1330869563 Not my auction (I wouldn't part with something like that...). Gianfranco = Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody wants an LX Gold?
- Original Message - From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: Anybody wants an LX Gold? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=133086956 3 Not my auction (I wouldn't part with something like that...). You mean you would actually buy something like that? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Who owns a photo?
- Original Message - From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:51 AM Subject: Re: Who owns a photo? (Disclaimer - I don't know the meaning of joint property state. Does this mean she can smash my car, my camera, my guitar and set fire to my all my negs and then have to pay for only half of the damages, claiming the stuff actually just as much belongs to her?) Lasse - I don't know if it goes that far. I mean that's a pretty outrageous example you put together, Yes, I did this on purpose... but in a joint property state, half of everything is hers. Jeez, who is this lady? Can you introduce me to her? :-) or, Jeez, this sounds like true family communism... Anyway, I don't know if what your saying actually is legally the case, or just the way people put it, like they sometimes do here in Sweden. It may even be similar to Swedish law (and I'd guess it's pretty similar in neighbouring Scandinavian countries). Roughly it goes like this: Any property that you are the sole owner of, is yours only. You own your own book, camera, car, guitar etc. She can't do anything with it, like smashing it up, selling it or giving it away, or take any other possession of it without your consent. (However, there might of course be property of joint ownership as well, - typically a house, a car, furniture etc.) However, in case of a divorce, we are entitled to half the *value* of the other party's property. But I still own my camera. She can't just take it, but I may have to pay her half of it's value in order to keep it though. Not all property though goes into this pot that is to be shared to half it's value. We may have made agreements on what property is to be shared (long story), or there is typically some property that won't be included. One of which, interestingly enough, is copyright (and other intellectual rights. If it has already been transferred to a publisher, it will be included though.). This means that the photographer's copyright will be unaffected by the divorce. It stays with him. The most extreme case I've read about was when one party sold some of the joint property for a bargain price and then grinned a lot while turning over half of the proceeds of the sale. In some of the joint property states that can be done, and in some it can't be done. The real problem is that, in several states, the wife gets it all and the husband gets nothing. Can you give me her name and phone number? Or just tell her I think she looks nice and give her my email addy... That makes the joint property states look pretty good. Hm... Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Take two MZ-S's and call me when you get back
Joe, I would be curious to know if you have done this type of backpacking in the past and what equipment you have used that has worked well for you. Are there any features of the MZ-S that you were needing/hoping to use that your previous equipment didn't have? Well, to be honest, I'd have to say, no, I've never just dumped cameras into a backpack before. Other models might also have problems, but I think the switches on the PZ-1p wouldn't have these particular problems. I think I'm still jet-lagged and cranky. I did feel rather cross at the MZ-S's design during the trip - especially the camera's tendency to turn itself on. I bought these (through my lab, not my own $$) specifically because of the discussion here about how much more durable they were. I thought Great, just what I need for fieldwork in Africa. Now I have to think up some extra protection for these puppies (photo backback or hard cases), then figure how to fit that extra protection into my already-bulging bags Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ann's Butterfly Near Phoenix
Annsan, To make a living, you have to shoot pictures that are in demand. They are not always fun to do. There are sure-fire formulas to make a living in photography. I could list some but I'm sure that you already know them and you probably would not enjoy doing them. Most are too cliché, and far from fine art photography. You have a very good eye for art. An article I read last year in a photography magazine explained it another way. It was written by an editor. He differentiated pictures into two categories. Those that were shot for people, and those that were shot for photographers. He said that the ones that sold magazines were shot for people. You can see that photographers really appreciate your work. Len --- - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Ann's Butterfly Near Phoenix I've tended to say thanks and aw shucks privately to those who like my stuff but I'm allowing my self a public aw shucks now. I can't tell you all how much this means to me right now. I wish I could make a living at this! ann - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Should one get pissy over photos in a divorce? (was Who owns a photo?)
I've never liked the term mean spiritedness. Some folks toss it out for any old thing. It seems to imply (to me) some permanent defect of character (Their spirit or essence is mean), and among our politicians, this is exactly what they are implying by way of attempted slander. When a politician or any other person uses the term mean spiritedness in a political setting, I usually mark them (mentally) as someone not worth listening to, and I don't care what side of the isle they sit on. Most times, bitterness and vindictiveness are transitory and tied to specific situations (especially in the case of divorce). Even the best of us may harbor these for a period after a traumatic event. I know I have. Still, I just don't think these look good in folks, and the sooner it subsides and they return to their normal state, the better for them and us. If these were naked pics of the ex wife that a guy was putting up, that would be one thing and slanderous indeed. It would be time for court. This is a guy, and according to the Old Boy's Club rules, one should buck up, get over it and move on. Harboring resentment over anything about anyone just allows the person to live inside your head rent free. Again, I ain't God. It's just my view from going through divorce myself, listening to other folks who break up and listening to folks in 12 step programs. Other folks see things differently. Regards, Bob... Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event. - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] You forgot mean spiritedness. National People's Radio should keep that right on the tip of your tongue, for instant use. From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Whining over photos left over from a divorce is not very becoming of a man. To me, it shows... bitterness, or possibly vindictiveness, and is probably accompanied by all the usual rationalization folks put forth in their attempts to claim it's all about righteousness. Yeah, I'm always opinionated. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:I Need More Speed
- Original Message - From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:44 PM Subject: Re: OT:I Need More Speed I missed alot of this, but allow 3 years of internet tech support geekiness to give you your answers: Geeky? Perhaps. But absolutely correct. My main field of endeavor is telecommunications, and you have stated the facts clearly. I won't comment more than this once because I have been flamed for this kind of stuff in the past. Len (Who is a telecomm specialist for the DoD in his day job) --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??
Ppro... I know EXACTLY waht you mean! It's such a toss up; IMHO, split image is easier with bright subjects and well defined edges and microprism works better with softer and more dimly lit subjects. I won't do anything until I test out the factory screen. Maybe I'll like it well enough and won't change it out. Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody wants an LX Gold?
Not really someone who knows much about LX's . . . they call it an ILX, and they took the thing out of the display case!! Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1330869563 Not my auction (I wouldn't part with something like that...). Gianfranco = Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Pentax 70-210/4 PKA zoom lens, $65
$65--why so little? Well, the focusing, while smooth in the middle, has rough spots at the near and far ends. Also, about 25% of the black paint is chipped away on the bottom half, near the aperture ring. The glass, however, is immaculate, and the focusing ring shows no wear. Included is a Tamron plastic screw-in hood (42mm deep). For an additional $20 I'll include a 58mm B+W multicoated (MRC) UV 010 filter. Will ship anywhere. PayPal or BidPay preferred; money order accepted. $5 shipping to U.S. or Canada; $12 elsewhere. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Should one get pissy over photos in a divorce? (was Who owns a photo?)
This is too late for anyone who has been through a divorce. But for those who haven't, the best way to divide property IMHO is to let either party divide it into halves and then let the other party in the divorce select which half they want. This is on good authority because I have had a lot of time to thing about it. My wife and I have been married 41 years and I am still wondering how long it will last. -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ricoh rikenon lenses
hi I recall some post here a few days ago mentioning about older ricoh lenses being incompatible with modern pentax cams (like the zx-5n for eg). I have a rikenon p 1:2 50mm lens and a 35-70mm zoom. Will they work with my zx-5n... i dont want to put them on if they arent coming off after that! :O Also, on the aperture ring one has a P mark and other has a (A)P mark. What do they mean ? Is that the same as the pentax-A lenses? thanks, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures??
Of course then there is the plain matte screen - got that one too and like it the best of all. It is a little hard to use in low light though... ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Spotmatic F production figures?? Ppro... I know EXACTLY waht you mean! It's such a toss up; IMHO, split image is easier with bright subjects and well defined edges and microprism works better with softer and more dimly lit subjects. I won't do anything until I test out the factory screen. Maybe I'll like it well enough and won't change it out. Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ringflash
Just received this from the Oly list. What do you folks think? At ~$30.00 CDN I'd like to try one. http://www.turekcamera.com/prodSLRAccessories.htm Seriously, I don't think much of this thing! The idea is sound but really! The illumination might be uneven, just looking at it. At least my inventions have some *style* about them. On the plus side, the camera would float if dropped overboard... Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody wants an LX Gold?
Not my auction (I wouldn't part with something like that...). IMO it's uglier than a pink Barbie Cam (sorry Aaron) :-) Bill KG4LOV, WPRS983 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Send a Kiwi To Camp
I've never tried home-brew, I imagine it tastes much like beer only worse - yuck!!! Now wait a minute, I resemble that remark :-) Bill KG4LOV, WPRS983 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Take two MZ-S's and call me when you get back
At 12:07 5-2-2002 -0500, you wrote: From: Mick Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: Take two MZ-S's and call me when you get back Sounds to me like the feature the MZ-S was lacking on this trip was a case! Regards, /\/\ick... Hey, That's just what I was going to say! Still waiting for mine to arrive. It's on order. Then I can sling my MZ-S around in my backpack to my hearts content! Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Magnifier for Super Program?
Paul, I don't think there is an advantage to the M over the F magnifier. I've used the F, I think, on the SuperProgram. No problem. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But according to Boz's site, the Magnifier F can be used on the Super A and other 1980s M and A models. The F is readily available new, at a modest price. Would using the M offer me any advantages on a Super Program? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Vivitar Series 1 200/3.0 lens (screwmount), $100
If you've read http://www.cameraquest.com, you know how legendary this lens is. 116mm (4.6 in.) long by 80mm (3.2 in.) wide; 823 g (29 oz.). Transmits more light, f/stop for f/stop, than my Pentax SMC 200/2.5K. Close-focuses to 1.2 m (4 feet); magnification 1:4. 72mm filter ring. Built-in sliding hood (short). 6 elements, 6 groups, single-coated; 8-blade diaphragm. Half-stop clicks between f/4 and f/16, full click to f/22. Clearly marked apertures, distance scale, and DOF scale. Very wide knurled focusing ring: 48 mm (1.8 in.) Entered production 1974. This lens typically sells for $140 to $175. I'm pricing it at $100 because focusing is somewhat rough. Otherwise, it's in nice shape, with clean glass. I'm selling it because I've just replaced my Series One 135/2.3 screwmount lens with its K-mount successor, making the 200/3 is my only remaining screwmount lens; hence, I can no longer justify keeping a screwmount adapter on my third Super Program. Will ship anywhere. PayPal or BidPay preferred; money order accepted. $5 shipping to U.S. or Canada; $12 elsewhere. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Take two MZ-S's and call me when you get back
Domke make these nice little padded wraps with velcro for cameras, they come in a range of funky colours :) So you can just sling it in backpack. ER cases can be a bit of a pain. paul - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: Take two MZ-S's and call me when you get back At 12:07 5-2-2002 -0500, you wrote: From: Mick Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: Take two MZ-S's and call me when you get back Sounds to me like the feature the MZ-S was lacking on this trip was a case! Regards, /\/\ick... Hey, That's just what I was going to say! Still waiting for mine to arrive. It's on order. Then I can sling my MZ-S around in my backpack to my hearts content! Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
Do I have a sponser here??? :) Honestly, the budget at my paper is very tight. :P And Delta 3200 costs ~alot~ more than the hp5+. Nick --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand the purpose of pushing a medium speed film to 1600 or 3200 when there are some excellent high speed films available. Have to agree with you there. I think the gentleman's hockey shots were quite good in terms of framing, focus, action, and other purely pictorial considerations. They deserve a better film. Paul Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nick ... I think the real test is to push a 400 speed film three stops and take the same or a similar shot using a film like Delta 3200, use the same EI, and process it in the recommended developer, which is Ilford's DDX. Then compare grain, tonality, and detail. That's one reason that I said that it was the best film/dev combo for ~my~ situation. Ilford Delta 3200 takes a couple of minutes longer than the HP5+, both at 3200 same dev, to finish. Not only that, I swear that the grain on the Delta at 3200 is much worse than the grain of hp5+ at the same iso. Another thing, according to the box of Kodak Pro 3200 TMax that I have here, it is nominally rated at EI 1000. Is not the same thing true with Ilford's Delta? So there really is not anything such as a true 3200 film, right? You just don't have to push the Delta as far as the hp5+. As for your comment that a hockey match isn't a good subject because There is no way that a person can get all of the tones on a standard hockey rink to expose correctly because there is simply too much difference, and the film has not enough latitude is simply not true. If you expose for the shadows and develop for the highlights, you can get the details in the black and prevent the highlights from burning out. You may get a little compression in the middle tones, but your negs - and, therefore, your prints and your scans - will look a whole lot better. Pushing a film will automatically cause a reduction in shadow detail, so you've got a double-whammy going here. I work at a paper, I understand what you're saying; but it takes me long enough to turn in a photo already! G Just out of curiosity, how did you meter the arena and the scenes you were shooting? Did you actually measure the shadows and the highlights, or did you put the camera on automatic, plug in the flash, and shoot away? The situation on the rink cries out for a spot meter and controlled development. When shooting available with my fast lenses, I'll spot meter off the ice and open up one stop; also checking the darkest parts of their uniforms to make sure it is no more than one stop under what the meter reads as correct. When shooting with slower lenses (ie- my 300/4.5) and flash I'll set the camera to 1/250 @ f4.5, their is enough light at this particular rink so that at that setting (with 3200iso) the meter reads dead in the middle when spotted off the ice (which means the scene is one [one-half] stop under), and I set the flash to TTL with one-stop overexpose dialed in. (Actually, since the af500ftz's flash meter only registers up to 1600iso I don't have to dial in any extra overexposure at 3200) And please take what I'm about to say in the spirit it's intended - just because the photos run every week in your local paper does not make them very good. It makes them acceptable for their intended purpose. There are other photos on your site that put these to shame, and some are amongst the best sports photos I've seen. These hockey photos are not up to your higher standards. Wow, thank you for the compliment. So what would you suggest that I do differently? Also, keep in mind that these were among the first hockey games that I've ever shot. I've shot several since, and I think the quality has gone up considerably. I'll have to scan some of the newer ones for my site soon, if I get a second free. :P Nick Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film?
Well, cost is certainly a consideration when you're trying to earn a living with your camera. Most of us are just avid hobbyists and cost is only important when our wifes examine the checkbook. In any case, like I said, I think they're very good shots. Paul Nick Wright wrote: Do I have a sponser here??? :) Honestly, the budget at my paper is very tight. :P And Delta 3200 costs ~alot~ more than the hp5+. Nick --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand the purpose of pushing a medium speed film to 1600 or 3200 when there are some excellent high speed films available. Have to agree with you there. I think the gentleman's hockey shots were quite good in terms of framing, focus, action, and other purely pictorial considerations. They deserve a better film. Paul Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Lens test results
Does anyone have a site up with test results of the Super Takumars and SMC Takumars like Fred, Stan and Yoshihiko have for the K mounts? I guess you could use the K (as opposed to the M, A, F, FA, etc.) lens results as being close to what the Super-Multi-Coated would produce. I guess it is just hell to be old and forgotten. -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Temporary dropout
Don't forget the pink sunsets and alpenglow (my favorites). Oh and it's safe to use mirror lockup again. Harald Gianfranco wrote: And cats pictures!!! Don't you forget cats! Gianfranco (with 20 cats sitting around...) Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick everyone, post your flower pictures!! annsan Mike Johnston wrote: Hey friends, I must leave the list for a few days to concentrate on work. I'll be looking forward to getting back again--see you soon. Be good! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Soligor 105/2.8
I'm so happy, having just got back from biking to Vancouver. I spent an hour going up and down Main Street looking for a belt for my Pioneer Turntable. Anyway to cut a long story short, I never found the shop that stocks such spares, but I did find a Pawn Shop with lots of photo gear. I noticed a couple of lenses lurking in the back of the case. They were an Soligor Auto 105/2.8 and an Soligor Auto 135/2.8, both with Nikon Pre-AI mounts. They were both practically unused, so I bought the 105/2.8 for $69CDN. As I already have the Soligor Auto 300mm with the same adapter in a K-mount, I realised I could use these on both my ME's and my Photomic FTn. I plan to go back to there in a week or so, and buy the 135 lens (when I can afford the $97CDN). The other great thing I noticed is that the lenses take a 49mm filter/hood, and I already have a hood for my Pentax 105mm and 135mm lens, plus a stack of filters. I seem to remember a thread about a week ago on 105/2.8 and 135/2.8 lenses, are these the ones? James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which high speed BW film? 2nd try
--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nick ... I think the real test is to push a 400 speed film three stops and take the same or a similar shot using a film like Delta 3200, use the same EI, and process it in the recommended developer, which is Ilford's DDX. Then compare grain, tonality, and detail. That's one reason that I said that it was the best film/dev combo for ~my~ situation. Ilford Delta 3200 takes a couple of minutes longer than the HP5+, both at 3200 same dev, to finish. Not only that, I swear that the grain on the Delta at 3200 is much worse than the grain of hp5+ at the same iso. Another thing, according to the box of Kodak Pro 3200 TMax that I have here, it is nominally rated at EI 1000. Is not the same thing true with Ilford's Delta? So there really is not anything such as a true 3200 film, right? You just don't have to push the Delta as far as the hp5+. As for your comment that a hockey match isn't a good subject because There is no way that a person can get all of the tones on a standard hockey rink to expose correctly because there is simply too much difference, and the film has not enough latitude is simply not true. If you expose for the shadows and develop for the highlights, you can get the details in the black and prevent the highlights from burning out. You may get a little compression in the middle tones, but your negs - and, therefore, your prints and your scans - will look a whole lot better. Pushing a film will automatically cause a reduction in shadow detail, so you've got a double-whammy going here. I work at a paper, I understand what you're saying; but it takes me long enough to turn in a photo already! G Just out of curiosity, how did you meter the arena and the scenes you were shooting? Did you actually measure the shadows and the highlights, or did you put the camera on automatic, plug in the flash, and shoot away? The situation on the rink cries out for a spot meter and controlled development. When shooting available with my fast lenses, I'll spot meter off the ice and open up one stop; also checking the darkest parts of their uniforms to make sure it is no more than one stop under what the meter reads as correct. When shooting with slower lenses (ie- my 300/4.5) and flash I'll set the camera to 1/250 @ f4.5, their is enough light at this particular rink so that at that setting (with 3200iso) the meter reads dead in the middle when spotted off the ice (which means the scene is one [one-half] stop under), and I set the flash to TTL with one-stop overexpose dialed in. (Actually, since the af500ftz's flash meter only registers up to 1600iso I don't have to dial in any extra overexposure at 3200) And please take what I'm about to say in the spirit it's intended - just because the photos run every week in your local paper does not make them very good. It makes them acceptable for their intended purpose. There are other photos on your site that put these to shame, and some are amongst the best sports photos I've seen. These hockey photos are not up to your higher standards. Wow, thank you for the compliment. So what would you suggest that I do differently? Also, keep in mind that these were among the first hockey games that I've ever shot. I've shot several since, and I think the quality has gone up considerably. I'll have to scan some of the newer ones for my site soon, if I get a second free. :P Nick Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
re: which high speed film 2nd try
--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nick ... I think the real test is to push a 400 speed film three stops and take the same or a similar shot using a film like Delta 3200, use the same EI, and process it in the recommended developer, which is Ilford's DDX. Then compare grain, tonality, and detail. That's one reason that I said that it was the best film/dev combo for ~my~ situation. Ilford Delta 3200 takes a couple of minutes longer than the HP5+, both at 3200 same dev, to finish. Not only that, I swear that the grain on the Delta at 3200 is much worse than the grain of hp5+ at the same iso. Another thing, according to the box of Kodak Pro 3200 TMax that I have here, it is nominally rated at EI 1000. Is not the same thing true with Ilford's Delta? So there really is not anything such as a true 3200 film, right? You just don't have to push the Delta as far as the hp5+. As for your comment that a hockey match isn't a good subject because There is no way that a person can get all of the tones on a standard hockey rink to expose correctly because there is simply too much difference, and the film has not enough latitude is simply not true. If you expose for the shadows and develop for the highlights, you can get the details in the black and prevent the highlights from burning out. You may get a little compression in the middle tones, but your negs - and, therefore, your prints and your scans - will look a whole lot better. Pushing a film will automatically cause a reduction in shadow detail, so you've got a double-whammy going here. I work at a paper, I understand what you're saying; but it takes me long enough to turn in a photo already! G Just out of curiosity, how did you meter the arena and the scenes you were shooting? Did you actually measure the shadows and the highlights, or did you put the camera on automatic, plug in the flash, and shoot away? The situation on the rink cries out for a spot meter and controlled development. When shooting available with my fast lenses, I'll spot meter off the ice and open up one stop; also checking the darkest parts of their uniforms to make sure it is no more than one stop under what the meter reads as correct. When shooting with slower lenses (ie- my 300/4.5) and flash I'll set the camera to 1/250 @ f4.5, their is enough light at this particular rink so that at that setting (with 3200iso) the meter reads dead in the middle when spotted off the ice (which means the scene is one [one-half] stop under), and I set the flash to TTL with one-stop overexpose dialed in. (Actually, since the af500ftz's flash meter only registers up to 1600iso I don't have to dial in any extra overexposure at 3200) And please take what I'm about to say in the spirit it's intended - just because the photos run every week in your local paper does not make them very good. It makes them acceptable for their intended purpose. There are other photos on your site that put these to shame, and some are amongst the best sports photos I've seen. These hockey photos are not up to your higher standards. Wow, thank you for the compliment. So what would you suggest that I do differently? Also, keep in mind that these were among the first hockey games that I've ever shot. I've shot several since, and I think the quality has gone up considerably. I'll have to scan some of the newer ones for my site soon, if I get a second free. :P Nick Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tricky lighting, Metering Solution
I shot this sculpture w/ P67 today. I was unsure about how to meter it. I didnt want to fuss with my spotmeter so I backed up a little and took an average reading with my gossen multipro in the reflected mode. Hit the exposure dead on! Dont recall what stting I used, but it worked. http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/sculpture1.jpg I've fine tuned my TMAX 400 as far as ISO (250) and development and I L O V E this film for black and white on the P67. It's a little too grainy for 35mm but it really shines on 6X7. I really appreciate the extra speed over TMAX 100 which I usually expose at ISO 80. I think from now on I will use the 400 for 6X7 and 100 for 35mm. This brings up the question : Why use any film slower than ISO 400 with the P67 if the grain is invisible to the naked eye I can see trying to reduce the grain with 35mm , but with P67 whats the point??? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody wants an LX Gold?
Gianfranco writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1330869563 Not my auction (I wouldn't part with something like that...). Aaarg!!! My eyes are bleeding. I'd rather shoot with a Canon Rebel! Are those things legal? :-) j = -- Juan J. Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody wants an LX Gold?
Gee, Juan ... I was going to get it for you for your opening. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to use it myself when photographing in the Tenderloin. A little black tape and no one will be any the wiser g. Juan J. Buhler wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1330869563 Aaarg!!! My eyes are bleeding. I'd rather shoot with a Canon Rebel! Are those things legal? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .