Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...

2002-02-26 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

Len,
I wasn't being facetious or sarcastic. 99 percent of the time that I put my 
SLR away, it still has film in it. I virtually never keep a body empty; as 
soon as I finish a roll, another roll goes in, just in case. I assumed that 
everyone follows this pattern.


Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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More Viewfinder Opinions

2002-02-26 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

Chris,
Among the models you've named, my experience is limited to Super Programs. 
But I can tell you the magnification of certain models:
MZ-M: 0.77X
MZ-5: 0.78X (I think)
PZ-1P: 0.8X
Super Program: 0.82X
Program Plus: 0.82X
KX: 0.88X
LX with FA-1 finder: 0.9X
ME Super: 0.95X
MX: 0.95X (0.97X?)
ME: 0.97X
LX/FF-1 finder: 1.05X
LX/FE-1 Magni-Finder: 1.35X

PDMLer Mark McMaster has written: "The view through the FE-1 is so huge, 
you'd almost think you were looking at a medium-format screen." I assume 
the Magni-Finder is the same as the Sports Finder, which reportedly offers 
the largest viewfinder in the Pentax line.

There are other considerations, of course, such as screen brightness, matte 
texture, and what not. For nonbright lenses like f/5.6 telephotos, you may 
be better served by a viewfinder that has no rangefinder patch. The ME 
Super is available in two versions; horizontally split rangefinder and 
45-degree split RF.

One site says that the ME has perhaps the best viewfinder of any 
manual-focus SLR ever made.

Yoshi has written (Feb. 2, 2000): "Considering easiness of focus, I rate 
the viewfinders of K-mount bodies I have ever tried as below:

KX, MX, PZ1-P, ME Super, MZ-10
KM, ME, Ricoh XR-8 Super, MZ-3, LX, MZ-M
K1000, MV-1 (KR-III), ZX-5n, MG

I have never tried A-series nor SF series bodies.

I feel very easy to focus even 50mm f/1.2 lens with K series bodies. I feel 
slightly hard to focus 50/1.2 lens with LX."

Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: Irregular frame spacing

2002-02-26 Thread wendy beard

At 10:37 26-2-2002 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Irregular frame spacing
>
>Wasn't that an issue with the first MZ-Ses off of the line?  That they
>needed a software upgrade because of irregular frame spacing?  I recall
>something about this.
>
>Wendy, get on the horn to Pentax Canada.  What province are you in?  If
>it's Ontario, I can give you the number for their service department.
>
>- -Aaron

That's what I thought I'd remembered hearing too but couldn't find any 
mention of it.
Then I decided I'd just got muddled up.
Yes, I'm in Ontario so the service dept number would be great, thanks.
They don't seem to be very fast at answering e-mail.

Wendy

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Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...

2002-02-26 Thread Len Paris

OK, so I guess it's *always* wrong to leave a mechanical shutter
uncocked.  I can't see where my advice would have hurt anyone,
but I've been wrong before.

Len
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- Original Message -
From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...


> Actually, the keep the shutter uncocked is left over from the
day when steel
> springs didn't how such good temper like before WWI. Old
advice never dies
> it just becomes redundant.
>
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s) (Thanks to all)

2002-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts

 Bojidar Dimitrov wrote:

> Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.  Sadly, I have had to
> "watermark" all KMP images that I own, and now you all have to pay the
> price of seing the lower-quality images.
>
> If anyone needs a good image that I own, drop me a line.
>
> I am going to pursue the issue a bit more with the commercial firm that
> stole my image(s).  I have to find them first because the eBay seller
> says he has no records of the exact URL.  But I'll try it.

Forgot the URL? Sounds suspicious to me. Are you *sure* he didn't steal the
images himself and then invent the story about getting them form someone else's
web site?

Notify eBay either way.

-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts

Yep, me too. It's superb. It positively *makes* me want to go out and take
photographs it's so easy and gratifying to use.

"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Same here, extremely pleased with mine.
>
>Bill
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mick Maguire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:18 PM
>Subject: RE: Where's Pentax?
>
>
>> Bruce sniped: Out of curiosity, just how many folks here thought enough of
>> the MZ-S to go and
>> buy one?
>>
>> if you take a look on the bodies roll call you'll find out. I did and I'm
>> very happy with it
>>
>> Regards,
>> /\/\ick...

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Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...

2002-02-26 Thread T Rittenhouse

Actually, the keep the shutter uncocked is left over from the day when steel
springs didn't how such good temper like before WWI. Old advice never dies
it just becomes redundant.

Ciao,
Graywolf



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From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...


> "Paul F. Stregevsky" wrote:
>
> > I respect, but don't understand, the advice to "store your camera
> > uncocked." Aren't we also told, "When going out to shoot, keep your
camera
> > cocked at all times?" What are we to do if (as usually happens) we don't
> > take that final hoped-for shot: blow a shot just to extend the life of
the
> > spring?
>
> Yes, if you want your shutter to remain accurate.
> Paul
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Foveon Fotos

2002-02-26 Thread Butch Black

If in fact Foveon did give Sigma a 5 year exclusive digital camera rights to
the chip, they probably shot themselves in the foot. The market for prosumer
digital SLR's is for a long time going to be dominated by Nikon and Canon
shooters looking to add a digital body to their kit. Also, in reading some
early reviews in DP review, lens quality will be much more important as the
pixels, or quality of the pixels, goes up. I don't know that Sigma has that
many outstanding pro oriented lenses available, or that consumers will want
to spend that kind of money on pro level Sigma lenses. Sigma will definitely
sell some digicams, but I doubt that they will out do the big three.

BUTCH

"Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself"
Hermann Hesse (Demian)
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread tom

On 26 Feb 2002 at 15:59, Len Paris wrote:
> 
> The next question is:  What do you think?  Was the move worth
> the price?

I've only had mine a very short time, so I can't really say definitively at this 
point, but there are 2 things that made the camera extremely desirable for me: the 
grip takes AA 
batteries and has a vertical shutter release. I really think the vertical release is 
going to have an impact on the way I shoot...

Other things I like:

- better low light AF
- I prefer the interface over the pz-1p, especially exp. compensation
- I like the finder better

Things I don't like:

- the back door is flimsier than I would like
- can't use the vertical release with my Stroboframes. I might be able to jury rig 
this, but I'm not sure at this point.
- 1/2 step exposure compensation.

One more commentI never really loved my PZ-1p's. They're very capable, and gave 
great bang for the buck, but they just weren't, um, loyalty-inspiring. They're big 
plastic 
robo-blobs. 

I think the MZ-S is different in that respect. We'll see.

tv
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RE: MZ-S extended warranty(?)

2002-02-26 Thread harald_nancy

In case anyone is interested, I did call B&H and Cameraworld.
Neither had the 2 year Pentax ext. warranty for the MZ-S yet.
B&H had it in their computer and said they will get it around the
end of March. Cameraworld also has it in their computer and will
have it for sale sometime soon for $50.
Guess I'll just wait until then.
Thanks all for the friendly responses.
Nancy

Tom wrote:


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RE: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated Tue, 26 Feb 2002  7:02:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, John Coyle 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ya gotta hold it - anyone else remember the Pentax ads from the 1960's, when 
> the slogan was "Just hold a Pentax", with a picture of a Spotmatic or SV?

I don't remember much of anything before about 1969 ...

And if my local dealer had the MZ-S in his store, I would have held it by now. But my 
husband is probably just as happy that said dealer hasn't had the opportunity to place 
this camera in my hands. (Although I managed to resist the 645n and the 67 that I 
handled in that store ... sorry to disappoint the gentlemen of the Brotherhood.)
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread tom

On 26 Feb 2002 at 12:36, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity, just how many folks here thought enough of the MZ-S
> to go and buy one?

I bought 2 w/ grips.

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Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...

2002-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist

"Paul F. Stregevsky" wrote:

> I respect, but don't understand, the advice to "store your camera
> uncocked." Aren't we also told, "When going out to shoot, keep your camera
> cocked at all times?" What are we to do if (as usually happens) we don't
> take that final hoped-for shot: blow a shot just to extend the life of the
> spring?

Yes, if you want your shutter to remain accurate.
Paul
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Bill Owens

I traded a PZ-1p and ZX-5n for the MZ-S and don't regret it for a second.
To me, the MZ-S feels better and has a much more intuitive interface.  Add
the BG-10 grip and the AF360FGZ flash and it's an amazing combination.

Bill

- Original Message -
From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Where's Pentax?


> As a point of curiosity, how many folks moved from the PZ-1p to
> the MZ-S?  I don't think I can tell from the body count.
>
> The next question is:  What do you think?  Was the move worth
> the price?
>
> I ask because I am a PZ-1p owner and am considering the MZ-S.
>
> Len
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Bill Owens

Same here, extremely pleased with mine.

Bill

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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Where's Pentax?


> Bruce sniped: Out of curiosity, just how many folks here thought enough of
> the MZ-S to go and
> buy one?
>
> if you take a look on the bodies roll call you'll find out. I did and I'm
> very happy with it
>
> Regards,
> /\/\ick...
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Re: OT, but taken w/ a pentax - My first paid gig

2002-02-26 Thread Chris Niesmertelny

Aaron asked:

> This site takes you to my first "paid" photography gig.
>
> Essentially, I got to eat everything I shot.

You lucky bastard.  ;)

Looks good!  How was it lit?


It was late afternoon, only skylight above.  My wife and I essentially ate
from 3pm till 9 that night.  You may notice a half-drunk tankard of beer.
The three of us finished 4 rolls of film, 3 bottles of wine (2 white) and 2
sixes of Yingling Lager.  It's a wonder the pics are in focus!
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Re: phallic phungus

2002-02-26 Thread Chris Niesmertelny

Simon King wrote, regarding Richard Seaman's phabulous phallic phungus
picture:

>I do have to ask though - what were you doing in the "Great Swamp >Wildlife
>Refuge"?

Did you check out his web site?
http://www.richard-seaman.com/index.html
Richard survived the hurricane of a double century, the water didn't recede
for a month.  The Great Swamp was the driest place around.

Regards, and a special "how ya doin" to my Jersey neighbors.

Chris
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RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Paul M. Provencher

Hey, I wish I could "let go" when it comes to this stuff.  But we all know how much 
time we spend learning our craft, how much time
we spend making the images and putting them up, how much money we spend on our ISP, 
and never mind the cost of mint SMCT's and
cameras!  And then there is the principle...  Thanks for your comment!

ppro

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
>
>
>
> Paul,
>
> I had not thought thru the ramifications of what I suggested, especially the 
>commercial opportunities.  I think you are
> very right with the suggestion to agressively defend your content.
>
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> I wrote: >> In any case, I would complain to the offender and then let it go. <<
>
> Paul added:
> >>That is probably the easiest path, and certainly the least stressful.  But if one 
>truely wishes to protect their
> intellectual property, it is a fatal mistake.  This leads to more widespread abuse 
>and dilutes the value of that which
> you are trying to protect. If Dimitrov sells or wishes to sell his work, he will 
>find it difficult to command a proper
> value for it when it has been freely used far and wide.  I admit this to be a 
>somewhat philosophical argument but it
> comes down to personal value systems.
>
> For me, even though my web site images are not particularly stunning, and the 
>subjects are far from "socially redeeming"
> (I feature mainly toy cars and Jeeps in the woods), there are several markets for 
>this type of work.  By agressively
> protecting it, I have been able to expect and receive decent compensation any time 
>my images are used. This has led to
> contracts to illustrate toy books, the ongoing responsibility to write several 
>magazine articles per month, and
> compensation for the use of images on my site and made for hire, in related 
>publications.
>
> If I ignore what is at times widespread abuse of my site content, I will not have 
>had the same bargaining power when
> negotiating the price of my work.  This is a basic principle of doing this stuff for 
>a living.  If you are just dabbling,
> don't ever want to be getting paid, or don't really care where your work shows up, 
>then a brief complaint and letting it
> go is OK.  But it does not convey how much you value your own work, and 
>substantially diminishes your value in the market.
>
> Dimitrov, your site is a sparkling example of how to dispense information on a 
>topic.  No matter what your professional
> aspirations may be, I encourage you to protect your content if for no other reason 
>that to make a statement of what your
> work is worth to you.
>
> ppro
> © 2002 Paul M. Provencher  All Rights Reserved.  May not be used without Permission 
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RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Paul M. Provencher

You pretty much have to list your rates in advance so that there is a something to 
point to.   You could post it on your site, use
the java script to notify people when they right-click, or something like that.  If 
you have paid invoices from people who have used
your work, that can also support your claim.  But really if it isn't about the money, 
then all you are trying to do is get them to
cease and desist.

ppro


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
>
>
> Aaron suggested:
> > > It seems that the current eBay seller is not the person who manipulated
> > > the image, rather it was a "professional" photo dealer with a store in
> > > Berlin.
> >
> > Send them a bill.  Call the store and demand payment.  Ask them so
> > explain their actions.  Ask them if their store allows shoplifting.
>
> Anyone know offhand what typical current stock-photography fees
> are for web use these days?  Boz, can you find out how long they've
> been using your image?  Could be a tidy profit, though I'm not sure
> which country's courts would have to be used to sue them.
>
>   -- Glenn
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RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Paul M. Provencher

It's not expensive - I have done it successfully numerous times.  Several sites were 
removed from servers in response to my properly
formatted notice to ISPs' Copyright Agent.  Very satisfying.  It took 1/2 hour to 
prepare my stock warning and follow-up notices and
a few minutes to fill in the instance-specific info.  It matches the copyright law and 
Terms of Use for just about every ISP, and
gets just about instant response in 9 out of 10 cases.  Nothing is absolute.  I guess 
Boz needs to decide if it is worth it to him
to protect his work this way.

ppro

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Len Paris
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
>
>
>
> Boz, it's very expensive to go after folks that copy web
> pictures.  If you try legal action, the defending lawyer has a
> right to ask you to prove that the images are actually yours.
> You'd have to produce negatives or slides to prove it.  If you
> acquired the images from friends that sent them to you, you'd
> have to prove that too.  Of course, if you could produce the
> object itself, with the same serial number as the image, that
> would probably work, too.  You could also send e-mails to eBay
> and the folks bidding on the lens and explain to them that the
> advertised lens does not belong to the seller, it belongs to you
> and it is not for sale.
>
> Just a few ramblings from snowy, southern Illinois.
>
> Len
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Bojidar Dimitrov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:27 AM
> Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
>
>
> > I wrote:
> >
> > > What can I do against this:
> > >
> http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1334153963
> >
> > I have gotten in touch with the "seller", and he assures me
> that he took
> > the image from the web page of a professional photo dealer
>   I
> > will try to locate the dealer now.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Boz
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RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Paul M. Provencher

Two more points - for what it's worth:

Terms of Use - post them on your site.  There are a number of good ones that you can 
tailor to your needs.  Look at mine.
http://whitemetal.com

Copyright Notice - put one on every page.  I just have a standard page footer that 
goes on automatically.

Go to the web site ISP that hosts the image that was stolen and locate their Terms of 
Service and Copyright clauses.  They all tell
how to pursue infractions.  In every case I have encountered, the steps to file a 
complaint were exactly the same.  In other words,
once you have written the necessary documentation once, the only thing that changes is 
the image file name, the infringing user, and
the renamed image (if applicable).  In other words you need to invest some time in 
protecting your work so that when things happen,
you are prepared to respond.

ppro

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
>
>
>
> Unfortunately for them ignorance of the law is not a legal excuse. On the
> other you are not going to be able to collect damages unless you can show
> realistically that there is a money issue involved. If someone stole your
> pic and used it for a national billboard campaign where they would normally
> expect to pay a hundred thousand dollars for that use of the image. For
> something like the Ebay sellers illegal use about all you could expect is a
> cease and desist order.
>
> BTW Boz, since you notified him it is your image and it is still up the user
> can not hardly claim ignorance can he? Notify Ebay immediately with a copy
> of your e-mail communications to the seller. I will make a guess, he won't
> be using Ebay again for awhile.
>
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> 
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
>
>
> > Boz asked:
> > > What can I do against this:
> > > http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1334153963
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't mean legally, but I would appreciate ideas on how to place the
> > > copyright notices so that they are not so easy to remove.  Am I dreaming
> > > when thinking of images that do not allow themselves to be
> > > screencaptured and edited?
> >
> > Short answer:  yes, you're dreaming.  Other people have given
> > better advice than I can on legal and social approaches to the
> > problem; my comments are on the technical side.
> >
> > There's no really good technical solution.  There are techniques
> > to make theft of the images a little more difficult (the "my car
> > only has to be harder to steal than my neighbour's car, not
> > invulnerable" approach).  The harder you make it to steal the
> > images, the more you interfere with legitimate viewing of them.
> > So what you want, as with _any_ computer-security issue, is to
> > find a useful and reasonable compromise between the cost (in
> > money, effort, and inconvenience) and effectiveness of the
> > security measures you choose.
> >
> > Putting copyright notices along the edges of an image does very
> > little to distract from the image and does not reduce the
> > quality of it.  It's also easy to defeat by cropping the image.
> > It _does_ mean that anyone who takes the image directly from
> > your site can't claim ignorance of its copyright status, but all
> > they have to do is claim that they stole it from someone else
> > who'd already filed off the copyright notice (*and* claim to be
> > ignorant of copyright law in general!).
> >
> > Putting an invisible digital watermark in the image allows you
> > to prove that the image is yours as long as the thief doesn't
> > know how to check for it and remove it, but does little to
> > discourage an ignorant thief from using your work.
> >
> > Putting a visible but faint watermark across the whole image is
> > harder to remove (I'm betting that someone with better Photoshop
> > skills than I have can undo it -- *if* they decide that it's
> > worth that much effort instead of finding someone else to rip
> > off) but diminishes the usefulness of the image to legitimate
> > users (i.e. viewers of your web site).  The question becomes,
> > "How *badly* do you feel that compromises the usefulness of your
> > site?"  If the answer is, "Well that's unfortunate but not a
> > show-stopper", and theft of your work is a bigger deal than
> > that, then there's your answer.
> >
> > Cleverly editing the copyright notice in place of the serial
> > number is a lot more work on your end, and can be undone by
> > anyone who knows Photoshop as well as you do.  (Unless, of
> > course, they decide it's easier to steal from someone else...)
> > It does less to diminish the information-useful

RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Paul M. Provencher

I had this problem with an eBay seller (VOLVOMAX) in Germany who has a very successful 
toy Volvo business.  He moved to eBay from
mailers and thought he could use my site as a source for images.  He wrote and asked, 
I quoted prices, and he said no thanks.  Then
he used them anyway.  I was able to get him to stop, and forced him to do his own 
photography.  So now what does he do?  He scans
the images from the boxes instead.  Not my problem anymore.  What really bothered me 
about him was that he was loading them from my
server and I was getting the bill for the bandwidth!  That is something that you can 
get reimbursed for in this kind of situation
(commercial web site making unauthorized use of copyrighted materials and server 
resources without permission).  There is plenty of
legal precedence and lawyers who will be happy to take the case if the stakes are high 
enough.

ppro

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
>
>
>
> Your need to contact that store and tell them to cease and desist, invoice
> them for the use of your photos up to that time too, makes them realize they
> are stealing something valuable. Since this is a commercial firm, you are
> dealing with a bigger issue here,  you should talk to a copyright attorney
> if they do not respond immediately and satisfactorily.
>
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> 
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Bojidar Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
>
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > > If this seller happens to have been so careless as to have loaded
> > > the image from your site on the auction listing, rename the image
> > > to something else and substitute a 1x1 white pixel image in it's
> > > place.
> >
> > This is, of course, a great idea, but I am stinkin' mad because the
> > "original" thief took the image, then _REMOVED_ the copyright notice,
> > and finally used/uses the image for commercial advantage, thus violating
> > the KMP copyright notice.
> >
> > It seems that the current eBay seller is not the person who manipulated
> > the image, rather it was a "professional" photo dealer with a store in
> > Berlin.
> >
> > Thanks anyway,
> > Boz
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RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s) (Thanks to all)

2002-02-26 Thread Paul M. Provencher

I suspect that the person using your images probably stole them from you directly and 
is hiding behind the "I can't remember where I
got them claim".  Sad pathetic little man.

ppro

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bojidar Dimitrov
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s) (Thanks to all)
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.  Sadly, I have had to
> "watermark" all KMP images that I own, and now you all have to pay the
> price of seing the lower-quality images.
>
> If anyone needs a good image that I own, drop me a line.
>
> I am going to pursue the issue a bit more with the commercial firm that
> stole my image(s).  I have to find them first because the eBay seller
> says he has no records of the exact URL.  But I'll try it.
>
> Thanks again,
> Boz
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pdml@pdml.net

2002-02-26 Thread Chris Niesmertelny

Thanks, Cotty and Ed, for taking the time to comment.  I've been trying to
use the PUG as an assignment book, rather than dig up past drivel to post on
the Web, but I was displeased with the shots I took for the assignment and
went into the way back machine (to September) for something fitting.  I was
basically burning the end of a roll taken at the beach early in the morning,
and these caught my eye after development.

Appreciate the kind remarks, Gents!

Regards,
Chris




Cotty said:
Trax
Chris Niesmertelny
Lovely image incorporating good use of DOF, as they all are, but I like
the composition on this, when clearly there were 101 alternatives that
might have been shot.

And Ed K added:
"Trax" - Chris Niesmertelny
Interesting - I like the way the tracks lead up and then slide over - good
composition here.  On the other hand, the top left composition of the other
tire track bothers me a little.  Not much I can do, removing the top left
will remove the bend I like of the main track.  Overall a nice shot.
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Re: Hockey

2002-02-26 Thread CBWaters

Steve Yzerman's lips were a fun read for most of the game.  Seems he didn't
agree with the penalty called on him ;)  He didn't allow us to read his lips
in the box though.  He put a towel over the box-cam :(

Cory Waters
GO WINGS!

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From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Hockey


> Aaron wrote:
>
> >Yep.  Having been at our last win against the US and then a couple of
> >pretty bad losses, I was just a little nervous.  No work was done at the
> >store for those two hours on Thursday and again on Sunday for the men's
>
> >game.
>
> I stopped by a friend's house on Sunday and he had the game on. I've never
> watched a hockey game before but it looked like a pretty good one to me.
> Anyone else able to read Wayne Gretsky's (it was him, right?) lips when
> the Canadians scored the goal that put them up 4-2?  I can understand
> why they didn't have a microphone on him!
>
>
> --
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Re: as promised, more from the SMCP-67 75mm f2.8

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 06:06  PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Great shot. Nice grain, sharpness, and contrast. I'm looking forward to 
> trying a roll of
> Delta 3200 in the 6x7.

Thanks!  I'm quite happy with Delta 3200 in the 67.  I have another shot 
from a while ago from the 67 on the same film, I'll see about posting it.

It's very freeing, to be able to shoot in low light without the penalty 
of having giant grain.

-Aaron
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RE: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread John Coyle

Absolutely no doubt, I love the camera.  I may even trade the MZ-5 for another 
MZ-S body, so I can shoot with completely compatible bodies when necessary. 
 IMHO, the MZ-S is not over-priced for what you get, with regard to 
functionality and build quality.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


On Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:00 AM, Len Paris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
wrote:
> As a point of curiosity, how many folks moved from the PZ-1p to
> the MZ-S?  I don't think I can tell from the body count.
>
> The next question is:  What do you think?  Was the move worth
> the price?
>
> I ask because I am a PZ-1p owner and am considering the MZ-S.
>
> Len
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RE: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread John Coyle

Ya gotta hold it - anyone else remember the Pentax ads from the 1960's, when 
the slogan was "Just hold a Pentax", with a picture of a Spotmatic or SV?

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


On Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>
> I'm a PZ-1 owner who considered the MZ-S for no more than 5 minutes.
> I kind of have my dream 35 kit right now (PZ-1, ZX-5n, LX) and don't see
> anything on paper to make me want to ditch any of those for the MZ-s (which,
> I must admit, I've never seen in "person".) 
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Re: as promised, more from the SMCP-67 75mm f2.8

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 06:03  PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> The url isn't working for me. Are you sure it's correct?

Yep.  Did you make sure that it wasn't truncated?  It's a long URL, you 
may have to paste it together.  Otherwise, if you're still having 
trouble, go to http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds

The thumbnails are pooched, but otherwise it works okay.  Their default 
album uses java, tho', so you have to have it enabled if you check out 
the images that way.

-Aaron
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Cotty

>Out of curiosity, just how many folks here thought enough of the MZ-S to 
>go and
>buy one?

Lovely looking camera, but I'm not the slightest bit interested in it. 
I'll have the digital version ASAP. For film, I am very happy with the 
LX. The only thing I don't have on the LX that I would have on the MZ-S 
is autofocus, everything else I can live without (even program metering 
systems). Old habits die hard.

Cotty

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Re: Hockey OT

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 05:29  PM, frank theriault wrote:

> You may or may not remember (I don't know how old you are), but they 
> ~used~ to
> put mics near the player benches.

HAR!

I'm not that old.

-Aaron
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Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...

2002-02-26 Thread Len Paris

I guess it just depends on how many pictures you are going to
take with the camera in the bag.  If you store the camera in the
"viewfinder-to-eye" position, you'll find it dificult to get a
night's rest.  ;-)

Of course we were NOT talking about "when going out to shoot",
we were talking about putting the camera away.  Please keep this
reasonable, Paul.  Of course, I think you knew this all along
but just wanted to make a comment.

Len
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From: "Paul F. Stregevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...


> I respect, but don't understand, the advice to "store your
camera
> uncocked." Aren't we also told, "When going out to shoot, keep
your camera
> cocked at all times?" What are we to do if (as usually
happens) we don't
> take that final hoped-for shot: blow a shot just to extend the
life of the
> spring?
>
> Paul Franklin Stregevsky
> 13 Selby Court
> Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> H (301) 349-5243
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Re: as promised, more from the SMCP-67 75mm f2.8

2002-02-26 Thread Len Paris

You'll have to type in the 'jpg' after you paste in the rest of
the URL.

Len
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From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: as promised, more from the SMCP-67 75mm f2.8


> The url isn't working for me. Are you sure it's correct?
> Paul
>
> Aaron Reynolds wrote:
>
> > Vanessa's parents were dressing up for a retro costume party
last week
> > when it was decided that a portrait was needed.  Luckily, I
had the 67,
> > the 75mm and a roll of Delta 3200 in my bag.
> >
> > Here's my favourite:
> >
> >
http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/sgt%20%26%20mrs%
20pepper%20at%20home.
> > jpg
> >
> > Here's a closer view of a section of it:
> >
> >
http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/sgt%20%26%20mrs%
20pepper%20close.
> > jpg
> >
> > These were shot handheld at 1/30 f5.6, lit just by the lamps
in the
> > living room.  The top left corner has been slightly burned
in.
> >
> > -Aaron
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 05:09  PM, Brendan wrote:

> Want to Chrome plate my MZ-3 and get a snake skin
> cover? I'll trade it for the 67.

No, but thanks for the offer.  ;)

-Aaron
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Pentax 20mm lens wanted

2002-02-26 Thread Mark Erickson

Despite having too much camera gear (see my earlier "for sale" message), I'm 
in the market for a 20mm (K mount) lens.  Anyone have an extra one laying 
around?

Please reply off list 

 --Mark
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Re: More Viewfinder Opinions

2002-02-26 Thread frank theriault

Until recently, the only 35mm slr's I used were Spots.  I didn't think of them
as dim - until I got the MX!  I really noticed it this weekend, taking flash
piccies of a daughter's birthday party, in a dim room, with one of my
Spotties.  It was so dim, it was hard to focus.  I wished I had colour film in
the MX!

I don't know about ME's, but I have a non-working MV, and the MX is a bit
brighter than that.  Not as noticeable a difference as with the Spot, but it
seems to be there.

FWIW...

regards,
frank

Alan Chan wrote:

> The MX has among the highest magnificant. With a bright screen from the new
> LX, there's nothing can compare.

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fears it is true." -J. Robert
Oppenheimer
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Re: as promised, more from the SMCP-67 75mm f2.8

2002-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist

Now I can see them.
Great shot. Nice grain, sharpness, and contrast. I'm looking forward to trying a roll 
of
Delta 3200 in the 6x7.
Paul

Aaron Reynolds wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 02:17  PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > 
>http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/sgt%20%26%20mrs%20pepper%20at%20home.
> > jpg
> >
> > Here's a closer view of a section of it:
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/sgt%20%26%20mrs%20pepper%20close.
> > jpg
>
> You may need to paste these long URLs together.  Alternately, you can
> look at these images by going to http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds ,
> though they make you look at the images sized down in a silly viewer
> window.
>
> -Aaron
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pdml@pdml.net

2002-02-26 Thread Treena Harp

I do this at work all the time. The SLR always wins.

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From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: Interesting Comment: SLR vs P&S


> On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 01:20  AM, Doug Franklin wrote:
> 
> >> When it comes to scanning at 4000dpi, however, you can see how
> >> the lens on the SLR camera gives you cleaner, sharper photos,
> >> than those on the point-and-shoot.
> >
> > I'd be interested to know whether this agrees with the collective
> > experience of the PDML.
> 
> I would say that it depends on the point and shoot and the SLR, but 
> generally, comparing an SLR with a decent lens on it to a zoom point and 
> shoot, the SLR will kick some p&s butt.
> 
> -Aaron
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SMC-A 24-50mm for sale

2002-02-26 Thread Mark Erickson

All,

I have a Pentax SMC-A 24-50mm F4 zoom for sale.  I haven't been using it at 
all, and I have too much camera gear.  The glass and barrel are really, 
really clean.  The only flaw is a little forward and backward play in the 
zoom ring (toward and away from the camera).  KEH prices on this lens vary 
from $245 to $275.  Make me an offer if you're interested. 

 --Mark 
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated Tue, 26 Feb 2002  5:13:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Len Paris" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As a point of curiosity, how many folks moved from the PZ-1p to
> the MZ-S?  I don't think I can tell from the body count.

I'm a PZ-1 owner who considered the MZ-S for no more than 5 minutes.
I kind of have my dream 35 kit right now (PZ-1, ZX-5n, LX) and don't see anything on 
paper to make me want to ditch any of those for the MZ-s (which, I must admit, I've 
never seen in "person".) I was eager to see the digital sibling of the MZ-s -- you 
know, the one they didn't release after all ...
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Re: as promised, more from the SMCP-67 75mm f2.8

2002-02-26 Thread Paul Stenquist

The url isn't working for me. Are you sure it's correct?
Paul

Aaron Reynolds wrote:

> Vanessa's parents were dressing up for a retro costume party last week
> when it was decided that a portrait was needed.  Luckily, I had the 67,
> the 75mm and a roll of Delta 3200 in my bag.
>
> Here's my favourite:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/sgt%20%26%20mrs%20pepper%20at%20home.
> jpg
>
> Here's a closer view of a section of it:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/sgt%20%26%20mrs%20pepper%20close.
> jpg
>
> These were shot handheld at 1/30 f5.6, lit just by the lamps in the
> living room.  The top left corner has been slightly burned in.
>
> -Aaron
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Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...

2002-02-26 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

I respect, but don't understand, the advice to "store your camera 
uncocked." Aren't we also told, "When going out to shoot, keep your camera 
cocked at all times?" What are we to do if (as usually happens) we don't 
take that final hoped-for shot: blow a shot just to extend the life of the 
spring?

Paul Franklin Stregevsky
13 Selby Court
Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Contax NX vs Pentax MZ-S

2002-02-26 Thread Grigolia

Jorgen,
 You may have confused the price of the Contax NX with the Contax N1.  
B&H lists the Contax NX for $649.95 and the Pentax MZ-S for $799.95.  They 
are indeed comparable cameras at not quite comparable prices but it is the 
MZ-S that's overpriced!
 Alexander Grigolia
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Re: More Viewfinder Opinions

2002-02-26 Thread Alan Chan

>Among the later Pentax manual focus bodies, can folks compare the various 
>viewfinders? I'm looking at the P3, Super Program, Program Plus, ME Super, 
>and MX. Are all these real pentaprisms? May I assume these are all better 
>than my MZ-5 (which is practically useless for MF).

They all have pentaprisms, and they all have better viewfinders than any 
MZ/ZX bodies (including the MZ-S's viewfinder which is too damn small).

>For comparrisons sake, I own a Spotmatic, K1000, ME, and MZ-5. I have a 
>motley collection of (mostly MF with a few AF) lenses.
>
>I picked up a beat up ME on a whim and the VF blew me away for all my 
>manual focus lenses! The size and handling! I must have MORE! I'm 'gonna 
>leave the screwmount adapter on that old one.
>
>Is the MX any better than the ME? Are the program cameras as good as or 
>worse?

The MX has among the highest magnificant. With a bright screen from the new 
LX, there's nothing can compare. But even with the old screen (that I use), 
it's still pretty good with fast primes. One thing to remember is, a good 
quality viewfinder can appear dark due to an old dark screen. Super 
A/Program is a good example.

regards,
Alan Chan

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OT: Cybercrime - Auctions - URL

2002-02-26 Thread Len Paris

I don't know how many folks here participate in online auctions,
ebay & others, but here's something of interest to read from
TechTV/Cybercrime.


http://www.techtv.com/cybercrime/internetfraud/story/0,23008,336
1520,00.html

Len
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Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...

2002-02-26 Thread Stephen Moore

Tim Engel wrote:

> (Very lucid description of mechanical shutter operations)

Many thanks!

Can our (now-discontiued) LX's stepless shutter be similarly
explained, or is it just plain black magic?  :-)

Regards,

Stephen
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Re: Foveon Fotos

2002-02-26 Thread T Rittenhouse

He sent your the portrait of the guy? Your eyes are far better than mine if
we are talking about the same photo.

Ciao,
Graywolf



- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Foveon Fotos


> And the pics I received from Mike looked like crap, in that it was clear
> they were digital, highlights were burnt out, there was color fringing,
> and some other problems.  Either we received different prints, or you
> need new glasses .  I'd have to pull out the prints to be very
> specific wrt each one.  But I was not impressed one whit.
>
> T Rittenhouse wrote:
> >
> > Let me warn you, the print from a Canon D30 Mike Johnson sent into the
> > Challenge, the one that made me ask if I should use such prints to rate
the
> > printers, was so good it made my eyes blink. The thing is it showed no
> > digital effects whatsoever it may have been run through an image
enhancing
> > program, or actually been done on film and scanned with a commercial
scanner
> > for all I could tell. No other picture I have seen from a D30 looked
that
> > good, no picture I have seen from any mobile digital camera looked that
> > good.
>
> --
> Shel Belinkoff
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/
> You can't have everything. Where would you put it?
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Model release?

2002-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts

Here's an interesting quandry:

I may be in a position to sell a photo. The prospective user is a local
festival and the photo is of the start of a 10k race with all the runners
coming toward the camera (it's at 
http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d101407.htm).


I originally took the photo for editorial use, so no model releases were
necessary then, but they *would* be necessary for commercial use. Except
that the prospective buyer is the festival/race organizer whose entry forms
(that all the runners signed before being allowed in the race) stipulated
that photos taken during the event could be used by the organizers for promotional
purposes. 

So it seems that the race organizers do have the right to use the photo
without getting signed releases from everyone recognizable in the picture.
(Try to count them!) My feeling is that the race promoters clearly have
the right to use the photo and that I'm OK as long as I don't try to sell
it to anyone else. Any thoughts?


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Pentax Lenses For Sale or Trade

2002-02-26 Thread T Rittenhouse

I have the following For Sale or Trade, (KEH prices are for trade
valuation). I am going to call all of them excellent (lightly used) except
for noted problems. With the exception of the 50/1.7 none show any sign of
abuse. No marks on glass, no fungus, no separation, light to moderate dust.

These are for sale or trade, make offers:
Pentax Takumar Bayonet 135/2.8, excellent (KEH $35)
SMC Pentax-M 50/2.0, excellent (KEH $50)
SMC Pentax-M 28.2.8, excellent (KEH $126)
SMC Pentax-M 50/1.7, chewed filter ring, can still screw filter on,
otherwise excellent (KEH bgn $47, $25 seems fair)
SMC Pentax-M 28-50/3.5-4.5 Zoom, excellent. (KEH $94)
SMC Pentax-M 40/2.8 Pancake lens, scuffed aperture ring, otherwise excellent
(KEH $199, $175 seems fair)
Pentax Rectangular Metal clamp-on Lens Hood for 28mm/3.5 (49mm) (asking $15)

These are for trade only, I want to keep them unless you make me a great
offer:
SMC Pentax-A 135/2.8, excellent (KEH $179)
SMC Pentax-K 24/2.8, scuffed on aperture ring, otherwise excellent (KEH
$299, $275 seems fair)

Wanted:
Pentax MX (will trade the K24/2.8 even for a minty black body)
SMC Pentax-M 100/2.8
Sekonic Studio Meter

Offers to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ciao,
Graywolf

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Re: Re: Foveon Fotos

2002-02-26 Thread T Rittenhouse

Your point is well made. Also, the larger pixels are more sensitiv (higher
ISO) and less sensitive to noise (better image). Between those and your
comments about lens resolution a 24x36 would be far better than a smaller
chip with the same overall pixel count. A 6MP full frame sensor is pretty
much the same as what is being used in medium format digital backs right
now.

Ciao,
Graywolf



- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Foveon Fotos


> T Rittenhouse wrote:
>
> > Let me warn you, the print from a Canon D30 Mike Johnson sent into
> > the Challenge, the one that made me ask if I should use such prints
> > to rate the printers, was so good it made my eyes blink.
>
> Let that be a lesson to the pixel counters; there's a lot more to image
> quality than just the number of pixels a camera records. People who think
> the Foveon (or the Philips or the Fuji or whatever) won't equal 35mm film
> because it doesn't capture enough pixels are missing this. Of course those
> who say it'll be *better* are probably missing it too. The proof or lack
> thereof will be in the prints.
>
> I'm really curious about these particular new sensors but the one I'm most
> interested in is actually the oldest: the Philips. A full-frame chip gives
> you more than the advantage of being able to use wide angle lenses. It
gives
> you the full resolution of your lenses. Consider two CCDs, both producing
> 6 megapixels, but one being full-frame and the other being smaller. A 35mm
> frame has a diagonal dimension of 43mm. If you use a CCD with a diagonal
> of, say, 28mm, you gat a "focal length multiplier" factor of about 1.5
with
> the smaller chip. Now say your lens has a resolution of a nice round
figure
> like 50 lpm. That works out to 1400 lines across the frame of the small
> sensor. A full-frame sensor, however, with *the same lens* would get 2100
> lines across the full frame. In other words, the smaller CCD not only
multiplies
> your focal length by 1.5, it *divides* the effective resolution of your
> lens by 1.5. The pixel giveth and the pixel taketh away.
>
> This assumes all things being equal, of course, and all other things are
> never equal. There are plenty of other ways to screw up a chip, so rather
> than predict great things from the Philips CCD, I'm going to sit back and
> wait to see how things shake out. Like I said, I'm really curious to see
> images from this latest batch of sensors.
>
>
> --
> Mark Roberts
> www.robertstech.com
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WAY OT! But it may or may not interest you if you're a Macaddict

2002-02-26 Thread Cotty

Apologies if you're reading this by mistake. You may lash me a hundred 
times with the petrified vomit of a Tasmanian Devil for being so OT.


I'm embarking on a typically insane project, namely building a PowerBook 
G3 (Lombard) from scratch. It will be documented over the coming weeks on 
the MacAds site home page, first installment is up, if you like that sort 
of thing (and building PowerBooks).



Now back to the lashing - yes - more, please...

Cotty

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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 01:57  PM, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:

> Nikon and Canon aren't. Kodak is barely hanging in there with competive
> products, let alone leading. Have you looked at the DCS720x and DCS760 
> (both
> based on the F5)? Class leading technology is fueled with cubic 
> dollars; Nikon
> and Canon are willing and able to do so.

How can Pentax be behind when we haven't seen the product, then, Bruce?  
You just posted that Pentax are three generations behind because Nikon 
have revised their digital SLR three times.  But Nikon is ahead of Kodak 
despite Kodak having more revisions and being on the market longer 
because Nikon's offering is better.

Pick your argument and then support it.

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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 02:17  PM, Patrick White wrote:

>   As for copyright notice location, just paste it over a nondescript 
> part of
> the barrel.  There is still no guarantee that they can't retouch it 
> out, but
> all you are really after is making it so much work that they go steal
> somebody else's image or take their own.

If you have a KMP logo of some kind, putting it in a corner of the 
image, overlapping the lens slightly, that would look good and be a bit 
of a deterrent.

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Re: [FS] SMC-A 50/1.4

2002-02-26 Thread gfen

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, [iso-8859-1] Mark Roberts wrote:
> Pentax SMC-A 50/1.4 in excellent condition. $80.00 to the list before it
> goes on eBay. This is a *great* lens :-)

Sign me up!

Contact me off list, please, to follow up.

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Re: TuTu - Who-Who?

2002-02-26 Thread Kristian Walsh

Unless there's another, he's probably referring to Archbishop Desmond 
Tutu, the South African churchman who campaigned for years to release 
Nelson Mandela from prison.

(Hey, two posts, and both off topic...)
--
Kristian


On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 07:02  pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 25/02/02 18:42:14 GMT Standard Time, Brandon writes:
>
> << So I butchered the poor man's name...
>
>  I was refering to Desmond TuTu... >>
>
> Sorry - still none the wiser.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter
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Re: Foveon Fotos

2002-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff

And the pics I received from Mike looked like crap, in that it was clear
they were digital, highlights were burnt out, there was color fringing,
and some other problems.  Either we received different prints, or you
need new glasses .  I'd have to pull out the prints to be very
specific wrt each one.  But I was not impressed one whit.

T Rittenhouse wrote:
> 
> Let me warn you, the print from a Canon D30 Mike Johnson sent into the
> Challenge, the one that made me ask if I should use such prints to rate the
> printers, was so good it made my eyes blink. The thing is it showed no
> digital effects whatsoever it may have been run through an image enhancing
> program, or actually been done on film and scanned with a commercial scanner
> for all I could tell. No other picture I have seen from a D30 looked that
> good, no picture I have seen from any mobile digital camera looked that
> good.

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Re: Sigma SD9 w/Foveon Chip

2002-02-26 Thread Kristian Walsh

The Contax camera is only arriving now, in March. It was supposed to be 
on the market last November, and now it's also going to be a really 
tough sell (even for Zeiss fans with deep pockets) when compared to 6Mp 
cameras from the Japanese (Pentax excluded, naturally :-( ).

Personally, I think Pentax were right not to proceed with the MZ-D as 
specified. Sure, it would have been nice to have the camera, but 
wouldn't we be here complaining that it cost four times as much as the 
Canon D-60 if Pentax had gone ahead with it...?

That said, I won't be looking at digital until I can get a full-frame 
one, and that's always going to be expensive (in IC production, the 
physical size of the device is the biggest cost, not the number of 
transistors or sensors or whatever on it). Okay, I might be tempted to 
settle for a 1.2x multiplier if the price was right, but that's still a 
way off..

When's Photokina?
--
Kristian


On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 06:53  am, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> And your point is?
>
> ryan brooks wrote:
>>
>> And the 6mp Contax full-frame is real:
>>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0202/02022505contaxndigitalinhand.asp
>
>>> The Pentax ad above the Sigma photos is kinda cute ...
>>>
>>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0202/02022503sigmasd9shots.asp
>
> --
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s) (Thanks to all)

2002-02-26 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi,

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.  Sadly, I have had to
"watermark" all KMP images that I own, and now you all have to pay the
price of seing the lower-quality images.

If anyone needs a good image that I own, drop me a line.

I am going to pursue the issue a bit more with the commercial firm that
stole my image(s).  I have to find them first because the eBay seller
says he has no records of the exact URL.  But I'll try it.

Thanks again,
Boz
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as promised, more from the SMCP-67 75mm f2.8

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

Vanessa's parents were dressing up for a retro costume party last week 
when it was decided that a portrait was needed.  Luckily, I had the 67, 
the 75mm and a roll of Delta 3200 in my bag.

Here's my favourite:

http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/sgt%20%26%20mrs%20pepper%20at%20home.
jpg

Here's a closer view of a section of it:

http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/sgt%20%26%20mrs%20pepper%20close.
jpg

These were shot handheld at 1/30 f5.6, lit just by the lamps in the 
living room.  The top left corner has been slightly burned in.

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Re: Sigma SD9 w/Foveon Chip

2002-02-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff

No I don't .. I have no memory.  That coupled with paying very little
attention to the discussions of the MZ-D, leaves me essentially ignorant
of circumstances surrounding the camera.

Len Paris wrote:
> 
> The full-frame MZ-D could have been real too.
> You have a short memory, Shel.

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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread T Rittenhouse

Yep, that is why I said Boz should contact a copyright attorney in that
case.

Ciao,
Graywolf



- Original Message -
From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)


> On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 12:58  PM, T Rittenhouse wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately for them ignorance of the law is not a legal excuse. On
> > the
> > other you are not going to be able to collect damages unless you can
> > show
> > realistically that there is a money issue involved. If someone stole
> > your
> > pic and used it for a national billboard campaign where they would
> > normally
> > expect to pay a hundred thousand dollars for that use of the image. For
> > something like the Ebay sellers illegal use about all you could expect
> > is a
> > cease and desist order.
>
> Except that the eBay fella stole it from a retail store that had stolen
> it.  So, the retail store is using it to sell product on the internet.
> Commercial use, big money.
>
> -Aaron
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Re: as promised, more from the SMCP-67 75mm f2.8

2002-02-26 Thread Norman Baugher

Can't handhold the 6x7, shutter vibration, etc. etc. HAR!!
Norm

Aaron Reynolds wrote:

> These were shot handheld at 1/30 f5.6, lit just by the lamps in the
> living room.  The top left corner has been slightly burned in.
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[FS] SMC-A 50/1.4

2002-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts

The closet cleaning continues:

Pentax SMC-A 50/1.4 in excellent condition. $80.00 to the list before it
goes on eBay. This is a *great* lens :-)

The SMC-F 70-210 is also still available.


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Re: Re: Foveon Fotos

2002-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts

T Rittenhouse wrote:

> Let me warn you, the print from a Canon D30 Mike Johnson sent into
> the Challenge, the one that made me ask if I should use such prints 
> to rate the printers, was so good it made my eyes blink. 

Let that be a lesson to the pixel counters; there's a lot more to image
quality than just the number of pixels a camera records. People who think
the Foveon (or the Philips or the Fuji or whatever) won't equal 35mm film
because it doesn't capture enough pixels are missing this. Of course those
who say it'll be *better* are probably missing it too. The proof or lack
thereof will be in the prints.

I'm really curious about these particular new sensors but the one I'm most
interested in is actually the oldest: the Philips. A full-frame chip gives
you more than the advantage of being able to use wide angle lenses. It gives
you the full resolution of your lenses. Consider two CCDs, both producing
6 megapixels, but one being full-frame and the other being smaller. A 35mm
frame has a diagonal dimension of 43mm. If you use a CCD with a diagonal
of, say, 28mm, you gat a "focal length multiplier" factor of about 1.5 with
the smaller chip. Now say your lens has a resolution of a nice round figure
like 50 lpm. That works out to 1400 lines across the frame of the small
sensor. A full-frame sensor, however, with *the same lens* would get 2100
lines across the full frame. In other words, the smaller CCD not only multiplies
your focal length by 1.5, it *divides* the effective resolution of your
lens by 1.5. The pixel giveth and the pixel taketh away.

This assumes all things being equal, of course, and all other things are
never equal. There are plenty of other ways to screw up a chip, so rather
than predict great things from the Philips CCD, I'm going to sit back and
wait to see how things shake out. Like I said, I'm really curious to see
images from this latest batch of sensors.


-- 
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Patrick White

"Bojidar Dimitrov" writes:
>What can I do against this:
>http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1334153963
>I don't mean legally, but I would appreciate ideas on how to place the
>copyright notices so that they are not so easy to remove.  Am I dreaming
>when thinking of images that do not allow themselves to be
>screencaptured and edited?

The serial number of the lens doesn't show in the picture.  If it did, then
it might be more obvious that it isn't a picture of their actual lens, which
is what they are trying to pass it off as.  Not that I'm recommending that
you publish the serial number of the lens in that way.
As for copyright notice location, just paste it over a nondescript part of
the barrel.  There is still no guarantee that they can't retouch it out, but
all you are really after is making it so much work that they go steal
somebody else's image or take their own.

hope that helps,
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Re: February 2002 PUG Comments

2002-02-26 Thread Jaume Lahuerta

Thanks for your effort. Your critique is great...
since you picked my picture. ;-)

Seriously, I used to participate in Chris' organized
comments, but now that it is not working, I became
lazy. I have to figure out how to comment offline
having all the images stored previously (or suscribe
to an ADSL service, not in my plans though).

Keep with this exercice, I found that it was also a
learning tool.

Jaume 

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> I am following Cotty's lead...better late than
> never.  Here is my first attempt at critiquing the
> PUG (or anything else).  Since I've never done this
> before, you are free to critique my critique!
> 

> "Cadaques" - Jaume Lahuerta
> The multi-angle step lines draw me right down the
> stairway.  Nice!
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread T Rittenhouse

I like all the petty little get even tricks I have seen in this thread. But,
as has been said, if Boz has commercial possibilities with his images,
allowing copyright infringements degrades the value. If someone feels it is
easier to copy a photo than to take one themselves they are admitting to the
commercial value of that photo so have no defense whatsoever. If the images
have no commercial value to Boz, then probably a copyright attorney would
suggest not litigating.

But in any case he should notify all parties of his ownership of the
copyright and ask them to cease using it without payment. This is necessary
to protect his rights and to protect others copyrights as well. It is a
common good issue.

This presupposes that Boz owns the copyrights to the images, I don't suppose
he doesn't, but you would be surprised how many thieves get upset when
someone steals their ill gotten gains. Reminds me of the story about the guy
that called the cops to report that someone had robbed him of the ten grand
that he had robbed a bank for.

Ciao,
Graywolf



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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)


> > > If this seller happens to have been so careless as to have loaded
> > > the image from your site on the auction listing, rename the image
> > > to something else and substitute a 1x1 white pixel image in it's
> > > place.
> >
>
> should one decide to ever do this, for maximum impact, make sure there
> is a bid on the auction already. If their isnt any, place one if the
> starting bid is low enough or there is a reserve :)
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

Nikon and Canon aren't. Kodak is barely hanging in there with competive
products, let alone leading. Have you looked at the DCS720x and DCS760 (both
based on the F5)? Class leading technology is fueled with cubic dollars; Nikon
and Canon are willing and able to do so. 


--- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 12:52  PM, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
> 
> > Nikon: D1 original, D1X/D1H, D100.
> 
> ...but you're not slagging Nikon for being 5 or 6 generations behind 
> Kodak?
> 
> Come on, be serious.
> 
> -Aaron
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Re: (even later) of Feb PUG review from Cotty (I am also one of those)

2002-02-26 Thread Jaume Lahuerta

Cotty,

Yes, I admit that I am one of those that, like you,
scan all PUG comments looking for his/her name.

An this time I found it:
-
>>Cadaques
   Juame Lahuerta
   It's the shot we all want to take one day, just
that most of us don't 
   quite make it to  these quaint Mediterranean
villages built on hillsides. 
   Juame has, and did. And it's a great pic.
Interesting contrast with the 
   olde-worlde steps and the modern jumble of
wires
-

I am happy and honoured to have accomplished a
'general' dream, If I had known in that moment that I
had such responsibility over my shoulders, maybe the
result would have been quite worst...
;-)

Now seriously, I am glad you liked it.
BTW I also liked your contribution. It made me laugh.

OT: during a period in the US I realised that my name
was difficult to pronounce for English speakers. The
PUG is showing me that it is also difficult to
write...
;-)

JAUme
(no problem, of course)
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Re: Adorama

2002-02-26 Thread Gary J Sibio

At 10:26 PM 2/25/02 -0800, you wrote:
>I guess it depends on where you live, or perhaps some other factor or
>factors, but I've found that sometimes Adorama gets delivered to me
>faster than items from B&H.

That may be. I live in Chicago so that may be a major factor. I recently 
ordered a lens from B&H. I ordered it after business hours. The next day I 
got an email saying it had been shipped and it arrived the following day. 
That's pretty much been my experience with them. Adorama seems to take a 
day or two longer. Not really a big deal.



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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 12:58  PM, T Rittenhouse wrote:

> Unfortunately for them ignorance of the law is not a legal excuse. On 
> the
> other you are not going to be able to collect damages unless you can 
> show
> realistically that there is a money issue involved. If someone stole 
> your
> pic and used it for a national billboard campaign where they would 
> normally
> expect to pay a hundred thousand dollars for that use of the image. For
> something like the Ebay sellers illegal use about all you could expect 
> is a
> cease and desist order.

Except that the eBay fella stole it from a retail store that had stolen 
it.  So, the retail store is using it to sell product on the internet.  
Commercial use, big money.

-Aaron
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RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Rfsindg

Paul,

I had not thought thru the ramifications of what I suggested, especially the 
commercial opportunities.  I think you are very right with the suggestion to 
agressively defend your content.

Regards,  Bob S.

I wrote: >> In any case, I would complain to the offender and then let it go. <<

Paul added:
>>That is probably the easiest path, and certainly the least stressful.  But if one 
>truely wishes to protect their intellectual property, it is a fatal mistake.  This 
>leads to more widespread abuse and dilutes the value of that which you are trying to 
>protect. If Dimitrov sells or wishes to sell his work, he will find it difficult to 
>command a proper value for it when it has been freely used far and wide.  I admit 
>this to be a somewhat philosophical argument but it comes down to personal value 
>systems.

For me, even though my web site images are not particularly stunning, and the subjects 
are far from "socially redeeming" (I feature mainly toy cars and Jeeps in the woods), 
there are several markets for this type of work.  By agressively protecting it, I have 
been able to expect and receive decent compensation any time my images are used. This 
has led to contracts to illustrate toy books, the ongoing responsibility to write 
several magazine articles per month, and compensation for the use of images on my site 
and made for hire, in related publications.

If I ignore what is at times widespread abuse of my site content, I will not have had 
the same bargaining power when negotiating the price of my work.  This is a basic 
principle of doing this stuff for a living.  If you are just dabbling, don't ever want 
to be getting paid, or don't really care where your work shows up, then a brief 
complaint and letting it go is OK.  But it does not convey how much you value your own 
work, and substantially diminishes your value in the market.

Dimitrov, your site is a sparkling example of how to dispense information on a topic.  
No matter what your professional aspirations may be, I encourage you to protect your 
content if for no other reason that to make a statement of what your work is worth to 
you.

ppro
© 2002 Paul M. Provencher  All Rights Reserved.  May not be used without Permission ( 
smiling ) <<
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 12:52  PM, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:

> Nikon: D1 original, D1X/D1H, D100.

...but you're not slagging Nikon for being 5 or 6 generations behind 
Kodak?

Come on, be serious.

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Re: OT Hockey - Women's Gold

2002-02-26 Thread Debra Wilborn

--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Thanks, Debra,
> 
> That was a great game, and just as much of a
> nail-biter, too.  And
> terrific hockey, I must say.  In some ways I feel
> better about that one
> than the men's gold.  There's the adversity of being
> underdogs, but
> also, they are true amateurs.  Anyone out there
> remember back when the
> Olympics were supposed to be for amateurs?  Not that
> they were all
> "really" amateurs, especially from those countries
> that used "amateur"
> sports for propaganda purposes, but I digress...

Yep, them was the days.  The old Evil Empire ain't
what it used to be.  But the Russians still know how
to skate - in any sport.

The amateur flavor will probably stay with women's
hockey for a long time yet.  Somehow I can't see the
sport ever going pro.  For one thing, no
body-checking.  A less physical (or barbaric) version
of hockey just won't sell as much.  Not to say that
women's hockey is less interesting.  I think we saw
how good the teams can be.  I don't play hockey, so I
don't really know, but it seems that taking away the
body-check makes it harder.  How do you strip the puck
from your opponent if you can't jam her off her skates
and into the boards?  

It's a money thing.  Just about the only women's sport
that draws more attention in the US than its male
counterpart is figure skating.  And maybe soccer, er,
football.
 
> Now that hockey is a true international sport, it's
> hard to imagine that
> any one country will easily sweep both men's and
> women's golds again.

Remember, the US was favored to win in both.  There
will be another Olympics. :)

> Truly a proud day for our country...

Y'all deserve it.

> regards,
> frank

howdy,
Deb in TX 

 
> Debra Wilborn wrote:
> 
> > Let's not forget the women's match.  Now THAT was
> a
> > game!  I was cheering for the home team (USA! USA!
> > USA!), but apparently nobody knows ice like the
> > Canucks.  :)  And all that after being 0-8 against
> the
> > US!
> >
> > So I guess that makes it a pretty amazing sweep in
> > hockey medals.  Come to think of it, y'all didn't
> do
> > too bad in curling either.
> >
> > Salute the leaf with pride.
> >
> 
> --
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FS: Vivitar Series One 1354/2.3 screwmount, $80

2002-02-26 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

I posted this lens last week for $100.  Maybe at $80 someone will bite.

Glass is clean, all functions are smooth. No wear on focusing 
ring.  Includes generic rear cap, Vivitar Series One front cap, which falls 
right off. Add $6 for a snap-in Tamron 72mm cap that stays on.

This lens close focuses to 3 feet (0.9 m) at 1:4.5X magnification. I'll 
include a Hoya 72mm 1B skylight filter. Add $9 for the HMC (Hoya 
Multicoated) version.

I'm selling it because I just bought the multicoated K-mount version.

$5 shipping to U.S. or Canada, $12 elsewhere. PayPal, BidPay, or money order.

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Re: SMC Takumar 1:1.8/55

2002-02-26 Thread jmadams

I have won a second Ebay auction, for an Pentax SP and SMC Takumar 1:1.8/55
for US $71.16 + $7 shipping.  I did not expect to win both.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1334082883&ed=1014696
884

This takes my list of cameras to:

1 x SP(plus one given to my son)
2 x SPFs
1 x ME
1 x MES
and 18 lenses (SM/KM)
(Plus non-Pentax)
1 x Ricoh KR-10
1 x Nikon Photomic FTn (Nikkor 50mm/f2 and Soligor 105/f2.8)

James

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Subject: Re: SMC Takumar 1:1.8/55


> I have just successfully bid on an SP500 Outfit for $91.00 US. plus
> shipping.
> http://cgi.ebay.ca/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1333462535
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aaron suggested:
> > It seems that the current eBay seller is not the person who manipulated
> > the image, rather it was a "professional" photo dealer with a store in
> > Berlin.
>
> Send them a bill.  Call the store and demand payment.  Ask them so 
> explain their actions.  Ask them if their store allows shoplifting.

Anyone know offhand what typical current stock-photography fees
are for web use these days?  Boz, can you find out how long they've
been using your image?  Could be a tidy profit, though I'm not sure
which country's courts would have to be used to sue them.

-- Glenn
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Re: 2: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread David Brooks

I went back to the link a few minutes ago and the main 
picture is now blank.The second one is still there.
Maybe Boz's on  a roll.

Dave


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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread T Rittenhouse

Your need to contact that store and tell them to cease and desist, invoice
them for the use of your photos up to that time too, makes them realize they
are stealing something valuable. Since this is a commercial firm, you are
dealing with a bigger issue here,  you should talk to a copyright attorney
if they do not respond immediately and satisfactorily.

Ciao,
Graywolf



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From: Bojidar Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)


> Hi Paul,
>
> > If this seller happens to have been so careless as to have loaded
> > the image from your site on the auction listing, rename the image
> > to something else and substitute a 1x1 white pixel image in it's
> > place.
>
> This is, of course, a great idea, but I am stinkin' mad because the
> "original" thief took the image, then _REMOVED_ the copyright notice,
> and finally used/uses the image for commercial advantage, thus violating
> the KMP copyright notice.
>
> It seems that the current eBay seller is not the person who manipulated
> the image, rather it was a "professional" photo dealer with a store in
> Berlin.
>
> Thanks anyway,
> Boz
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Re: Better Late Than Never - Feb PUG review from Cotty

2002-02-26 Thread Cotty

Cheers Kath. Does this mean we'll have to get married now?

;-)

>Cotty, you made my day!  Thank you so much for the kind and encouraging 
>comments.  I am trying very hard to become a really good photographer, 
>because anything worth doing is worth doing well.  Your comments really 
>help. 
> I may have said it before, but I think you take really wonderful photos, 
>but 
>you also have a very artistic, creative way with words.  With those two 
>traits combined, no doubt you will someday have a book published out there 
>for all of us to purchase!  Thanks again for taking the time to comment on 
>our photos.  
>Kathy L.


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Re: Hockey OT

2002-02-26 Thread dick graham

The US men's coach, Herb Brooks, made the comment that the Canadian team 
played a terrific game and that the US team didn't have any legs left after 
their tough semi final game against the Russians while the Canadians had a 
relatively easy walk through to the finals. You could tell that the US 
didn't have the "jump" against Canada that they had Friday night against 
Russia.  That doesn't detract from the fantastic performance of the 
Canadians in the gold medal game.  They gave us a lesson in how the game 
should be played.

DG



At 11:10 AM 2/26/02 -0500, you wrote:
>On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 09:24  AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>>Anyone else able to read Wayne Gretsky's (it was him, right?) lips when
>>the Canadians scored the goal that put them up 4-2?  I can understand
>>why they didn't have a microphone on him!
>
>HAR!  Yeah, Wayne has this reputation for being very nice and soft spoken 
>and polite, to the point where in his press conference after the Czech 
>game he said, "Like they say, payback's a...well, we all know what they 
>say about payback."  I actually checked the tape later to see if I had 
>seen what I thought I had seen...yup, I did.
>
>You become good at lip reading when watching hockey, because they NEVER 
>put microphones down near the players or coaches.  Often, the 
>conversations between them and referees or linesmen can be very entertaining.
>
>I'm still wondering what the US coach was talking about at the end of the 
>third period when he was shaking his head and saying "That's what really 
>pisses me off."
>
>-Aaron
>
>p.s. Lindros, scoring his first goal of the tournament against Belarus: 
>"It's about time!"
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

Nikon: D1 original, D1X/D1H, D100. These don't include the older Kodak/Nikon
DSLR's. Canon was late with a Pro level DSLR, but ahead of Nikon at the lower
end with the D30, and now on par. There's also the years of experience with
fixed lens, non SLRs and film scanners that these companies have. 
Until Pentax got together with HP they didn't have any sucessful digital
imaging products. If Pentax could come out with a 6 MP, DSLR that sold for
under $1000 they might have something.


--- Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3 generations behind? how? Don't go into IS and VR or
> eye control but how is Pentax really behind in
> Technology?
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread T Rittenhouse

And if javascript is turned off?

Ciao,
Graywolf



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From: tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)


> On 26 Feb 2002 at 12:41, Bojidar Dimitrov wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > What can I do against this:
> > http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1334153963
> >
> >
> > I don't mean legally, but I would appreciate ideas on how to place the
> > copyright notices so that they are not so easy to remove.  Am I
> > dreaming when thinking of images that do not allow themselves to be
> > screencaptured and edited?
>
> If you're feeling industrious you can place some code on your pages to
the right mouse button menu:
>
> http://www.aspfree.com/authors/MVadivel/disablerightbutton.asp
>
> There are other versions of this that might be better.
>
> In any event, it's pretty easy to get around, and the copyright notice
that Paul recommended is a good idea.
>
> tv
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RE: Another dumb-ass darkroom question

2002-02-26 Thread Mick Maguire

Thanks for the advice Shel! I don't think I would have ever thought about
the color of what I was wearing, but it's a damn good point. I'll do some
fogging tests around the same time as the safelight tests to be sure.
Hopefully I should be fully up and running with this project by the end of
the week.

Regards,
/\/\ick...
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Re: Hockey OT

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 09:24  AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Anyone else able to read Wayne Gretsky's (it was him, right?) lips when
> the Canadians scored the goal that put them up 4-2?  I can understand
> why they didn't have a microphone on him!

HAR!  Yeah, Wayne has this reputation for being very nice and soft 
spoken and polite, to the point where in his press conference after the 
Czech game he said, "Like they say, payback's a...well, we all know what 
they say about payback."  I actually checked the tape later to see if I 
had seen what I thought I had seen...yup, I did.

You become good at lip reading when watching hockey, because they NEVER 
put microphones down near the players or coaches.  Often, the 
conversations between them and referees or linesmen can be very 
entertaining.

I'm still wondering what the US coach was talking about at the end of 
the third period when he was shaking his head and saying "That's what 
really pisses me off."

-Aaron

p.s. Lindros, scoring his first goal of the tournament against Belarus: 
"It's about time!"
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Re: Enabled!

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 12:06  AM, David A. Mann wrote:
>
>  And I still haven't sold the RB kit, so no 75mm f/2.8 for me yet :(

Keep trying, Dave, it'll happen.  :)

Just to spur you along, I may post a new image from the 75mm this 
afternoon.  Shot a spur of the moment portrait of Vanessa's parents, who 
had dressed up for a retro costume party.  God bless Ilford Delta 3200 
in medium format.

-Aaron
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Len Paris

Boz, it's very expensive to go after folks that copy web
pictures.  If you try legal action, the defending lawyer has a
right to ask you to prove that the images are actually yours.
You'd have to produce negatives or slides to prove it.  If you
acquired the images from friends that sent them to you, you'd
have to prove that too.  Of course, if you could produce the
object itself, with the same serial number as the image, that
would probably work, too.  You could also send e-mails to eBay
and the folks bidding on the lens and explain to them that the
advertised lens does not belong to the seller, it belongs to you
and it is not for sale.

Just a few ramblings from snowy, southern Illinois.

Len
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From: "Bojidar Dimitrov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)


> I wrote:
>
> > What can I do against this:
> >
http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1334153963
>
> I have gotten in touch with the "seller", and he assures me
that he took
> the image from the web page of a professional photo dealer
  I
> will try to locate the dealer now.
>
> Cheers,
> Boz
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pdml@pdml.net

2002-02-26 Thread Bill D. Casselberry

Doug Franklin wrote:

> I was really wondering if any of the P&S cameras had optics that
> approached (or surpassed) SLR optics.  On average, or something, I
> guess.
 
Well, the results I get from my Pentax Zoom90WR show no
sign of the "Hoover Effect"; and the slides, especially,
seem extremely good w/ little loss of quality against my
m42 SuperTaks, etc. Relevant may be that I tend not to
use it for distant scenics & such, but rather closer-in
subjects. This keeps assorted potential optical aberations
from showing up, such as horizon bending and various edge
distortions. Sharpness, color rendition & such seem quite
satisfactory. Metering seems "tuned" to slide film as opposed
to print/neg, where I'd like to kick it 1/3rd stop if I could.  

Of course, this fine device has been discontinued  

Bill
 
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Boz asked:
> What can I do against this:
> http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1334153963
>
>
> I don't mean legally, but I would appreciate ideas on how to place the
> copyright notices so that they are not so easy to remove.  Am I dreaming
> when thinking of images that do not allow themselves to be
> screencaptured and edited?

Short answer:  yes, you're dreaming.  Other people have given
better advice than I can on legal and social approaches to the
problem; my comments are on the technical side.

There's no really good technical solution.  There are techniques
to make theft of the images a little more difficult (the "my car
only has to be harder to steal than my neighbour's car, not
invulnerable" approach).  The harder you make it to steal the
images, the more you interfere with legitimate viewing of them.
So what you want, as with _any_ computer-security issue, is to
find a useful and reasonable compromise between the cost (in
money, effort, and inconvenience) and effectiveness of the
security measures you choose.

Putting copyright notices along the edges of an image does very
little to distract from the image and does not reduce the
quality of it.  It's also easy to defeat by cropping the image.
It _does_ mean that anyone who takes the image directly from
your site can't claim ignorance of its copyright status, but all
they have to do is claim that they stole it from someone else
who'd already filed off the copyright notice (*and* claim to be
ignorant of copyright law in general!).

Putting an invisible digital watermark in the image allows you
to prove that the image is yours as long as the thief doesn't
know how to check for it and remove it, but does little to
discourage an ignorant thief from using your work.

Putting a visible but faint watermark across the whole image is
harder to remove (I'm betting that someone with better Photoshop
skills than I have can undo it -- *if* they decide that it's
worth that much effort instead of finding someone else to rip
off) but diminishes the usefulness of the image to legitimate
users (i.e. viewers of your web site).  The question becomes,
"How *badly* do you feel that compromises the usefulness of your
site?"  If the answer is, "Well that's unfortunate but not a
show-stopper", and theft of your work is a bigger deal than
that, then there's your answer.  

Cleverly editing the copyright notice in place of the serial
number is a lot more work on your end, and can be undone by
anyone who knows Photoshop as well as you do.  (Unless, of
course, they decide it's easier to steal from someone else...)
It does less to diminish the information-usefulness of the image
than the visible watermark.

(If most of the theft is for eBay listings, putting "Not For
Sale!" in the watermark might also be a nice touch...)

I suggest not trying Javascript code to stop folks from
downloading images.  First, for them to _see_ the image, it
_has_ been transmitted to their computer; they just need to know
a little more to be able to save it, but it's already in memory
(and possibly on disk in the cache) on their system.  If nothing
else, a screen-capture program will get it.  Second, such little
gain is probably not worth the cost to legitimate users:  anyone
using a non-Javascript-capable browser or who turns off
Javascript for performance or security reasons can no longer use
your site.  (FWIW, I'm in the latter category.)


Those cover people copying your images.  My recommendation is to
go with a simple copyright notice and rely on social and legal
measures to deal with theft as you discover it.


Now as for people linking directly to your images instead of
copying them, there are some tricks ... it comes down to a
question of how much effort it's worth.  Someone else suggested
renaming images and replacing them with a blank image (or, what
I'd be inclined to do, an image of a sign saying, "The picture
that was supposed to be here was stolen from...", or maybe a
photo of a camera that has been smashed to bits).  Well that's
an after-the-fact, _reactive_ approach (which is also true of
legal solutions, notifying eBay of offenses, etc.).  To do this
proactively, you could perhaps use a server-side script which
concocts a new filename each time the page is loaded (or one
which changes based on the date/time), and configure the server
so that any requests for an expired filename return the "this
image was stolen" picture.  It has to be server-side so that the
actual filename of the permanent image is not exposed.  

If the big problem you run into is folks linking in to your
images, this ought to discourage that (at the expense of more
coding on your end, and more load on your web server (though if
your pages are already coming out of a database, this probably
isn't a huge increase percentagewise)).  It doesn't stop them
from _copying_ the images, of course, and I'm pretty sure I
could come up with a chunk of Java or Javascript code to snarf
the filename-of-the-m

Re: Re: Using tamron lenses with ME super

2002-02-26 Thread David Brooks

It has been bookmarked for emergencies as thus

Dave

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From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:27:16 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using tamron lenses with ME super


David Brooks wrote:
> 
> Are you referring to this link?
> 
> http://www.pentax.com/docstore/index.cfm?show=6
> 
That's the rascal.  MES manual in PDF format, in case Alisair is
without.

Thanks,

mike
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FS: Pentax SMC 135/2.K, CLA'd, original hood, $125

2002-02-26 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

I posted this Feb. 21 at $150; I've just dropped the price $25:

Bought it in September 1999 from Ritz Online, which had rated it a 9 after 
a just-completed CLA. It's in great shape optically, mechanically, and 
aesthetically. Original rear cap and SMC Pentax spring-loaded hood. For 
front cap, a spring-loaded  58mm Tamron.

Also available to the buyer:

Heliopan 58mm UV 010 slim multicoated  filter, $25
B+W 58mm UV 010 multicoated filter, $22

Shipping $5 insured with confirmation to U.S. and Canada, $18 + optional 
insurance everywhere else. PayPal, BidPay, money order.

I'm selling it because I just bought a Vivitar 135/2.3PK and can't justify 
keeping both 135s.

Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: Where's Pentax?

2002-02-26 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Shel wrote:


>Seemingly not ... although an announcement saying that they are working
>on something would be nice, but that's only from the perspective of an
>interested consumer.



But they already did say so. The press release for  the shelved 6mp MZ-D 
state that they will be working on a more competitive digital slr instead.

Pål
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 07:56  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In any case, I would complain to the offender and then let it go.

I would suggest putting fine print on the site about what you charge for 
use of your images, including an outrageous fee for commercial use (i.e. 
to sell a product, like this fellow is doing).  Then contact e-Bay, tell 
them of the infringement and ask them to assist you in collecting your 
bill.  ;)

-Aaron
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Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread f . minelli

> What can I do against this:
> http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1334153963
> 
> 
> I don't mean legally, but I would appreciate ideas on how to place the
> copyright notices so that they are not so easy to remove.  

Place a large copyright notice across the image making it visible but not totally 
opaque. Do not place it in a corner or on an evenly colored part of the image or it 
will be just too easy to remove.


> Am I dreaming
> when thinking of images that do not allow themselves to be
> screencaptured and edited?
> 
> ...

Yes. :-(((. Once the image is downloaded you can't tell what it will be used for, 
viewing, saving or anything else.

Ciao, Flavio
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Re: Shutter Speed when not using Camera...

2002-02-26 Thread Len Paris

Wow!  Rough question.  There will probably be as many answers as
there are people.  My opinion, and it's just that, *my opinion*,
is that it is never wrong to leave a mechanical shutter
un-cocked.  And, if it's left un-cocked, there is no better or
worse shutterspeed.  Un-cocked is un-cocked.

Len
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> Is there a correct shutter speed to adjust a mechanical
> camera to when you are not using it 1/60, 1/125 or whatever.
>
> I thought I once read a long time ago that there are speeds
you
> should not leave it on, on account of the tension on a
mechanical
> shutter spring.
> I use Pentax MX and KX mechanical cameras.
>
> thanks in advance
> Denny B
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Re: Sigma SD9 w/Foveon Chip

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 01:53  AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> And your point is?

That perhaps it isn't vaporware, that perhaps there will actually be a 
camera produced using the full frame 6MP Phillips chip that Pentax was 
supposed to be using in their D-SLR before they canned it.

 From the site:

> PMA 2002: We got our hands on Contax's long awaited N Digital D-SLR 
> today. This camera has been on the books now since July 2000. For those 
> who don't know or don't remember the N Digital is based around the full 
> frame (36 x 24 mm) Philips 6 megapixel chip. At last years PMA Contax 
> had a plastic mock-up, this year we find real working pre-production 
> models which shoot, review and have working menu systems. Contax seem 
> confident that the camera isn't too far away. My concern is that 
> they'll be bringing an expensive six megapixel to market at least a 
> year too late.

I think he's hit the nail on the head, and that was Pentax's concern, 
too.

-Aaron
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Re: Foveon Fotos

2002-02-26 Thread Nitin Garg

unless the big name players use their muscles and keep sigma out. In
which case fovean could die too.


On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:43:11AM -0500, Bill Owens wrote:
> If, as I've read here earlier, Sigma has exclusive rights to the Fovean chip
> for 5 years, they will become a major player in the digital field.
> 
> Bill
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Foveon Fotos
> 
> 
> > Here's a comparison with a "standard" digital camera.
> > http://www.foveon.net/X3_comparison.html
> >
> > Bear in mind they are publicity photos, but also bear in mind what you
> > saw on Stephen's site.  I recall seeing some full-sized images.  I'll
> > try to find them again and post the url here.
> >
> > Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
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Re: Foveon Fotos

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Tuesday, February 26, 2002, at 01:10  AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> http://www.sjphoto.com/web-special/index.htm

Can't tell a thing from these...

http://www.sjphoto.com/web-special/pages/0022matt.htm shows evidence of 
either a heavy hand on the unsharp mask tool or an overzealous 
sharpening algorithm in the camera -- check out the halo between the 
kid's shirt collar and his skin.

Let us know how the prints look.

-Aaron
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Re: 6x7 Question

2002-02-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 11:57  PM, ryan brooks wrote:

> What is the difference between the "Late" (modern) lenses and the older 
> 6x7
> lenses that seem to always be floating around used?
> Is there a limitation related to the AE of the 67II?  Better coatings?
> Different designs in some cases?  All of the above?

All of the above except for the AE.  Even my brand new 75mm f2.8 has no 
electrical contacts on the mount, so that does not appear to be changing.

In terms of coatings, the newer the better, BUT Pentax has always had 
kickass coatings.

Some lenses have been overhauled, some have not.  You'll notice a real 
difference in minimum focus distance with the newer lens designs.  Some 
new designs are reputed to be sharper.

I haven't yet met a lens for the 67 that I haven't found sharp.  In 
fact, the only thing I've ever found to dislike about any of the lenses 
I've used has been their minimum focus distance.

Brother Wheatfield dislikes his old-old 75mm.  The new one is stunning, 
and the one in-between is also supposed to be excellent.

I've heard nothing about body upgrades, but then I'm not listening for 
them, either...heck, I went out and bought an original 67 new when the 
67II had just come out.

-Aaron
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RE: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)

2002-02-26 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

Paul,
My Russian-born wife would say that "dumb Yank" is a tautology.

"Paul M. Provencher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sorry if I got your first and last names switched. I'm just a dumb Yank!


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