RE: AF 280T
Hi Cotty, still some points: In practice, I flip my (Steve Larson inspired) switch, and set the power switch usually to MS-L. In bright ambient light at reasonable distance for, say a portrait, this allows the flash to fire and neatly fills in shadows in the eye sockets / under a baseball cap. The camera will be set to X, forcing it to use 1/75th sec shutter time, and I simply bring the aperture in manual to match the exposure of 1/75 sec. Isn't it the same to switch the flash to manual mode ? If you use the AF 280T in TTL position on a camera without TTL the flash does a full flash, the same like in manual position. Which difference does your solution provide ? I find that outside on an overcast day, I underexpose by up to a stop (I shoot negs) otherwise the faces tend to burn a bit on the neg. Generally it works well, although I'm restricted to using 1/75th sec and whatever aperture that requires in the available range. Generally it's not a problem using 200 ISO film. I'm happy with the results. On a bright day it puts a great sparkle in the eyes for family snaps, which is really the only time I use it. My 'real' portraits are low-key moody affairs, and I never use flash for those. I use for that a very small flash with guide number 11 powered by a single AAA cell. The results are also nice and I don't need to carry the big AF 280T. Bernd ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Info on Chasseur d'Images lens tests?
- Original Message - From: Brian Walsh Subject: Info on Chasseur d'Images lens tests? I happened to be looking at a web site which included some graphs apparently lifted without permission from CdI, and, unfortunately, the information didn't include any description of the ordinate. So, whhat does outstanding, very good and on down to poor mean in CdI parlance, anyway? outstanding: They like the dancing girls and fine wine that the company sends to the staff picnics. very good: Second rate dancing girls, beer instead of wine sent to the staff picnics. poor: The company doesn't donate dancing girls, beer or wine to the staff picnics. The science of CDI is renowned. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Color is So Much Easier
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Color is So Much Easier I disagree, if you saw these negs, you wouldnt believe how little difference there is. With a slight difference in printing exposure the difference would be so subtle and it would be hard to tell which was best. TMAX 100 is a very forgiving film WRT exposure. Probably wider than ANY slide film. TMX has an exposure range of somewhere in the vicinity of 10 stops. The average slide film is around 5 stops. For comparison, most colour neg films are around 8 stops, and most scene types fall within 6 stops. With careful exposure and processing control, TMX can produce a 16 stop range (I have done it). William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format - To Pentax or not to Pentax.
- Original Message - From: James Adams Subject: Re: Medium Format - To Pentax or not to Pentax. One guy said to me today, Why stay with MF such as Hasselbads, when you can buy a 200 shot Digital camera for less than the cost of a lens. He sold all his gear a year ago on Ebay, and got a good price on everything. He said his colleagues are now struggling to get a decent price for their equipment. This is called the dumbing down of the market place, photography style. I envision a whole raft of supposed pro photographers kicking themselves in a few years time for selling off their good image making machines for crappy digital cameras. And don't kid yourself, compared to a Hassy image, digital camera images are pretty much dog shit. William (its finally spring, and I am becoming reaquainted with dog shit) Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: linear polarizer and LX meter
- Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen Subject: Vs: linear polarizer and LX meter You can use the linear polarizer - only the readout is incorrect, the exposure will be OK. All the best! A small correction. I believe the exposure will be correct in automatic, but not manual. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ebay steal
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: ebay steal http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1346801122 BIN is great price! I have this lens and its superb! Jeeze, JC, if I had one more glass of wine under my belt, I would have hit the BIn. Still might. I don't need this lens. I don't like this angle of view. HELP MEEE!! William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Malcolm's Plums
Thank you! Malcolm It is a wonderful shot, nice going Malcolm. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Color is So Much Easier
- Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: Color is So Much Easier On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: First of all, I never said that BW negative didn't have a decent exposure latitude. However, similar results aren't exact results. The difference between a good photograph and a great photograph is found in the subtleties. While a film may have a wide exposure latitude, there is very little latitude for precise exposure - the exposure needed to get exactly what you want on the film. This is true for colour film as well as BW. Bracketing colour shots to ensure the best exposure requires no less skill than bracketing BW ones. Again, it comes down to the photographer and technique, not to film type. Not quite, Chris. If we explore the question of film type by reversal/ colour neg/BW neg, then film type is very significant. The nature of black and white gives the photographer comparatively infinite conrol over the negative compared to the colour films. Colour processes are relatively static, pretty much one size fits all. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Where to buy Pentax in Vancouver
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Alan Chan wrote: Unfortunately, MZ-S is just too expensive here in Vancouver. My solution is to buy oversea when I left Canada for more than 7 days (get $750 duty free), but the question is, I don't know when (perhaps never?))? Shops that I usually visit are LensShutter, Kerrisdale and InterPro. Seems to me that Kerrisdale is slighty cheaper, and InterPro is the cheapest. Just in case you do not know, all brand new Pentax cameras and lenses are covered by 1 year international warranty. However, if purchased in Canada, you will get an extra 1 year Canadian warranty too. Thanks Alan - Kerrisdale and Lens and Shutter have it listed on their sites, Kerrisdale is 20 something dollars cheaper. My mother has a summer place in WA state, but I would like to buy Canadian with a Canadian Warranty. I take my gear off road quite often, so it see's a lot of use and abuse, the extra year made be needed. I guess I will have to call a few dealers and see if they will order it in for me :-( Thanks! - Chris -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A nex toy for me too!
Hey All - I just picked up a new toy. Its nothing too special. I got the SMC FA 28-200 3.8-5.6 for $431.00 Cad (inc. tax). I bought it so I can be lazy. I think I am going to leave it on the mz-50, and take it out in the backroads when I got 4x4'ng. Something I can leave in the Jeep and not be too concerned with. I shot a roll tonight at the park, I'll find out how it does in a few days when I get my slides back. So far I like its build qual. Feels sturdy. I've read mixed reviews of it. I like the whirr of the IF. lol - Chris -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What is SMC-F designation?
SMC-A is manual focus, auto aperture. SMC-FA is auto focus, auto aperture but so (it seems) is SMC-F So what _IS_ SMC-F lens as distinct from SMC-FA? - John Leonard - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Mick wrote: Don't in any way be lured into thinking that a patent application or award thereof signifies an intent to manufacture or even an intent to do research. All it means, and in most cases is likely to mean, is that the company thinks this is a good idea, so files the patent. Actually this patent has been around for a few years and this is probably an update on that older patent. Back then, I remember that Nikon had similar patents on a camera that is both digital and uses film. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is SMC-F designation?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:58:29AM +0100, John Leonard wrote: SMC-A is manual focus, auto aperture. SMC-FA is auto focus, auto aperture but so (it seems) is SMC-F So what _IS_ SMC-F lens as distinct from SMC-FA? SMC-F is not auto-aperture. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Mark wrote: The patent depicts a 35mm SLR with an interchangeable film or digital back. Judging by the drawings, it looks fairly mature (maybe close to an actual implementation). What makes you think it's a 35mm camera? Unless I have missed something, it seems to be a 645. This also makes sense since this is the only Pentax camera with interchangeable back. It also fit the rumor mill. The patent clearly state that the film camera use two film catridges; clearly this indicate roll film - 120/220. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
Thanks all for the explanations, I knew the problem was the lab I went to didn't know or cared about this particular filmI guess I can develop it myself or look for a more competent lab. Ciao, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Info on Chasseur d'Images lens tests?
So, whhat does outstanding, very good and on down to poor mean in CdI parlance, anyway? You should ignore CDI at all cost since they have the habit of being 180 degrees off on anything Pentax. That means that the good lenses turns out bad and vice versa. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S DOF Preview Usage ?
Andy wrote: I was wondering if anybody has found a different or better technique of using the DOF preview ? Yes, turn off auto focus. AF isn't suited for hyper focal focusing. Only when you want the plane of focus to coincide with the subject is AF of much help. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Does not work. The camera would have to have a interchangable film magazine back first. That means it would have to be a different camera. Maybe an MZ/DF (for DigiFilm? AFAIK the only 35mm cameras that have had magazine backs in the past where the Kodak Ektra, and the Zeiss Contrarex. Anyone know of any others? BTW, I always kind of thought the Olypus Pen F SLR would be a good basis for a digicam since the 18x24mm format is great for current sensors. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR Digital back for MZ-S say it with me now :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leaf shutter operation on Pentax 67 165mm f/4.0 LS
I asked about the operation of the leaf shutter, and have two conflicting answers! Paul Stenquist says: Scenario 1 is correct. The focal plane shutter opening is the start of exposure, the leaf shutter closing ends the exposure. William Robb says: After much observation, and some debate, my wife, who has very fast eyes and I have determined that scenario 2 is the correct one. Were it otherwise, there would be no high speed sync available, which is why the camera has the built in shutter. The ^^^ I think you meant lens? 90mm leaf reopens after the focal plane shutter completes it's cycle, the 165mm leaf does not reopen. To answer William, my thought was that since Pentax was trying to make the lens simpler that perhaps they built a leaf shutter which just closed. High speed sync would still be available -- the flash would fire after the focal plane shutter curtain opened, which would illuminate the entire frame. Then the 1/2 leaf shutter would close quickly, giving the high speed sync. Yes, there could be uneven exposure side due to the movement of the shutter curtain -- but there is already uneven exposure center to edges caused by the leaf shutter. Given the two answers I have one more question/statement ... I think the deciding factor has to go to the presence of of PC-cord sync connector on the lens. I've been tracking down photos of the lens, and finally found one which _I think_ definitely shows the presence of a PC connector. That implies that the leaf shutter must open and close. If it only closed then there would be no need for a sync connector, as the focal-plane-shutter-open event would allow for flash sync. In other words, does the 165LS have a PC connector? If so, I think it must work as William reports. Thanks again for any info! Bolo -- Josef T. Burger - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: eBay Funny: truth in advertising
Check out the example photos of without 2x converter and with 2x converter! The center was just cropped out and enlarged! HA! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1345132950 Christian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF 280T
but my problem to understand your modification is the following: you say, if the TTL contact is open, the LX will fire the flash at high ambient light. But how does this work ? Now that's a direct question that deserves a very direct answer, and here it is: I don't know! Really. I'm afraid my background is not electrical, I'm just really good at bluffing my way, but if I get in too deep, believe me I can splash about pretending to swim with the best of 'em. A circuit diagramm of the AF 280 would be a big help to understand it better ! Does someone can help here ? Yes, has someone got one - email it to Bernd! And so I don't understand why cutting the TTL-wire would prevent the LX from not firing the flash. You and me too pal. When it comes to this sort of brainy stuff, I'm not the fastest film in the bag... Best, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Super Program
Did all of you saying that this is a bad deal actually look at the auction? I don't think $182.50 is so bad for a SP, A 50/1.7, filters, bag, etc. If you don't want/need the extras you might find the body/lens combo for less, but you could easily pay more than this to buy it all separately. -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Email.com http://www.email.com/?sr=signup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photographica
Royal Horticultural Hall... There's a 'blast from the past', used to go there for the computer fairs, such as The BBC Micro and The Sinclair QL shows back in the 80's. I worked quit close by at the Westminster Hospital. James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Thinking in BW
Begin Original Message From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] artsy stuff, were when I did in BW what everybody else seemed to do in color, hot air balloons for instance. I automatically see form and density relationships in my viewfinder, Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto Tom.Quite often i'll get my proofs back(BW) and have 1-2 i'm really proud of and bring them home to the SO for approval. She will look at them and grunt,it would look somuch better if it was colour.Arr I grew up with BW TV and magazines too.Maybe that does help in picturing the world/photo in BW.Never thought of that angle Dave Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 11:26 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: My local lab (I really like them) did some Agfa APX 400 that was just horrible. I think they mostly do the Kodak films. I'm going to ask them about the Ilford 3200, as I would like to try some high speed BW in the 67 and that seems to be the only choice. Any developers that are know to be bad for the Delta 3200? TMax developer and Delta 3200 seem to be a rotten combination. I've never run it in D76, but I hear that's not so great either. Ilford DD-X and Microphen are great for it, as well as Agfa Studional. I know a guy who does it in Rodinal and is very happy with it. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax Super Program
I didn't look at the auction. I based my reply strictly on the question, which seemed to me to only ask about the Super Program. I would not pay more than $125 (US) for a Super Program body in mint (or near mint) condition. Those other items were not considered. Len --- -Original Message- From: steven gilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Super Program Did all of you saying that this is a bad deal actually look at the auction? I don't think $182.50 is so bad for a SP, A 50/1.7, filters, bag, etc. If you don't want/need the extras you might find the body/lens combo for less, but you could easily pay more than this to buy it all separately. -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
I tend to let my subject drive the film I use, rather than the other way around. I am partial to B/W, but sometimes color is the best form of rendition. Materials selection is a large part of the creative process. Jerry in Houston In a message dated 4/17/2002 11:34:27 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When i go out to shoot BW,i usually have a theme in mind and when i compose a shot,I try very hard the visualize the final outcome in my head,as opposed to colour,which i can see both in the view finder and my head. To the BW shooters out there,do you do the same visual,or theme.How do you come up with your themes. My favorite BW theme to do is split rail or snake rail fences in the winter. Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
Colour and b/w are so very different, an image you see in your mind in colour does always not look good b/w and vs . But things tend to look better in b/w in general. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to let my subject drive the film I use, rather than the other way around. I am partial to B/W, but sometimes color is the best form of rendition. Materials selection is a large part of the creative process. Jerry in Houston In a message dated 4/17/2002 11:34:27 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When i go out to shoot BW,i usually have a theme in mind and when i compose a shot,I try very hard the visualize the final outcome in my head,as opposed to colour,which i can see both in the view finder and my head. To the BW shooters out there,do you do the same visual,or theme.How do you come up with your themes. My favorite BW theme to do is split rail or snake rail fences in the winter. Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Find, Connect Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Vs: What is SMC-F designation?
Exactly! And they do have automatic diaphragm, of course. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 17. huhtikuuta 2002 18:57 Aihe: Re: Vs: What is SMC-F designation? But the F lenses *are* capable of shutter-priority and program operation. They're practically no different than the FA series. chris On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Raimo Korhonen wrote: I think the correct wording would be capable of shutter-priority AE. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 17. huhtikuuta 2002 15:04 Aihe: Re: What is SMC-F designation? On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 03:16 AM, Nitin Garg wrote: SMC-F is not auto-aperture. April Fools! No, seriously, SMC-F lenses DO have automatic apertures. SMC-K and SMC-M lenses don't. (We're talking autoexposure, not apertures that stop down when you trip the shutter.) -Aaron - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[4]: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
Aaron, Thanks for the tips. I just talked to my lab and they said that they use Kodak HC110 Dilution B for developer. Have you heard of any problems with this and the Delta 3200? They said they have done some rolls and it seemed just fine. Also, what speed would you rate it at for a starting point, assuming the lab was not going to do any special processing? Thanks, Bruce Dayton Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 11:53:23 AM, you wrote: AR On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 11:26 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: My local lab (I really like them) did some Agfa APX 400 that was just horrible. I think they mostly do the Kodak films. I'm going to ask them about the Ilford 3200, as I would like to try some high speed BW in the 67 and that seems to be the only choice. Any developers that are know to be bad for the Delta 3200? AR TMax developer and Delta 3200 seem to be a rotten combination. I've AR never run it in D76, but I hear that's not so great either. AR Ilford DD-X and Microphen are great for it, as well as Agfa Studional. AR I know a guy who does it in Rodinal and is very happy with it. AR -Aaron AR - AR This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, AR go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to AR visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
In a message dated 4/17/2002 2:11:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But things tend to look better in b/w in general. In your most humble opinion.. Except for certain limited individuals life is in color, why is B/W automatically better...generally? Why should I let an artificial limitation on film type drive my creative instincts? Did Dali paint only in B/W? Jerry - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aaron's wedding (was: Re: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?))
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 09:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who's shooting your wedding, Aaron, and how did you pick him or her (or them)? I hope you won't be bolting off the platform to adjust your photographer's gear! He's someone I've known for a while, and whose wedding work I quite like. He shoots a lot of available light reportage-style stuff. I lured him out of semi-retirement, since he shoots product and fashion now. And I've promised Vanessa that I will not interfere with the photographs. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
67 vs. 67II
An interesting tidbit that came out during a conversation with a Toronto pro's assistant -- that sudden influx of Pentax 67s at Downtown Camera in the fall was because this photographer traded in most of his well-used 67s for 67IIs. His only complaint about moving from one to the other is that he can't shoot quite as fast with the 67II. With the 67 he could wind-fire-wind-fire in a very rapid motion because of the positioning of the shutter button and wind lever, but with the 67II he's 25% or so slower. Any 67II-ers notice this? I suppose you'd have to be shooting pretty fast to have it happen to you. I imagine it would have to do with the size and shape of your hands, too. Meanwhile, the assistant (who is also a bit of a Pentax fan) responds to my unveiling of my new 75mm f2.8 AL by saying, Yeah, Rob has one of those. It's really nice, isn't it? Damn! I am no longer unique. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium format, To Pentax or not to Pentax
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 12:44 PM, Bob Blakely wrote: I've noted that the 67 continues to be used for many of the shots in the famous Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue... Don't forget the Victoria's Secret catalog. You see, you were simply researching what lens to buy, examining sharpness, bokeh, flare... -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[5]: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:23:22 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: Aaron, Thanks for the tips. I just talked to my lab and they said that they use Kodak HC110 Dilution B for developer. Have you heard of any problems with this and the Delta 3200? They said they have done some rolls and it seemed just fine. This means the film didn't catch fire and no one died. You may want to consider doing it yourself. If not, I'd shoot 3 rolls, 1 each at 800, 1600, and 3200, and proceed from there. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Thinking in BW
I try and take some BW candids or rider/horse head shots at shows,and when the kids see them there comments are usuallyI like the BW's they look so old Maybe i should tell them if they want an old looking photo i'll bring out Fred Flintstones Polarock.G Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 15:10:18 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thinking in BW Colour and b/w are so very different, an image you see in your mind in colour does always not look good b/w and vs . But things tend to look better in b/w in general. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to let my subject drive the film I use, rather than the other way around. I am partial to B/W, but sometimes color is the best form of rendition. Materials selection is a large part of the creative process. Jerry in Houston In a message dated 4/17/2002 11:34:27 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When i go out to shoot BW,i usually have a theme in mind and when i compose a shot,I try very hard the visualize the final outcome in my head,as opposed to colour,which i can see both in the view finder and my head. To the BW shooters out there,do you do the same visual,or theme.How do you come up with your themes. My favorite BW theme to do is split rail or snake rail fences in the winter. Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Find, Connect Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Ya-who.It worked
Just received an email from Aaron.My IR negatives turned out ok.Now i just have to put $50.00 gas in the truck to go and rescue them. Now i need to wait a bit longer for some leaves,and roll number two will bit the dust. Dave(Tiffen#25)Brooks Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[6]: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
Tom, Do it myself because of fire hazard or type of developer they are using? Unfortunately, I am not currently equipped to do it myself. Not sure if I want to become equipped. I am not much of a BW shooter (yet). This is to be more experimental in nature. In shooting the three speeds, would the lab adjust for the exposure or just normal processing for all 3? Bruce Dayton Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 12:39:07 PM, you wrote: t On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:23:22 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: Aaron, Thanks for the tips. I just talked to my lab and they said that they use Kodak HC110 Dilution B for developer. Have you heard of any problems with this and the Delta 3200? They said they have done some rolls and it seemed just fine. t This means the film didn't catch fire and no one died. t You may want to consider doing it yourself. If not, I'd shoot 3 rolls, 1 each at 800, 1600, and t 3200, and proceed from there. t tv t - t This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, t go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to t visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S DOF Preview Usage ?
I much prefer to use AF rather than manual as I have more confidence in its ability than my eye and its much quicker than me. However for macro work I would usually use manual focus as the AF is unlikely to focus on the exact part of the subject that I would choose. I mostly shoot landscape and occasionally have some close subject right at the bottom of the frame - (typically below all the focus points). I really should use hyperfocal distance charts. Andy F I also own the MZ-S. It seems to me, that when you are that particular and methodical about focus, that you shouldn't even have AF turned on. My general rule of thumb is, Use AF when MF won't work as well. This case, MF seems like it would work much better. As to technique, I tend to use the DOF more zoom like. Pick my subject and focus point. Then depress DOF and turn the aperture ring until I see the desired DOF. Finish my metering and fire the shutter. Bruce Dayton - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[4]: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 03:23 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Thanks for the tips. I just talked to my lab and they said that they use Kodak HC110 Dilution B for developer. Have you heard of any problems with this and the Delta 3200? They said they have done some rolls and it seemed just fine. That sounds like it would be a fine combo. I haven't used HC-110 since the last time I processed TriX sheets, so I don't know how it and Delta will react to one another, but my spider-sense is not warning me of anything. Also, what speed would you rate it at for a starting point, assuming the lab was not going to do any special processing? I almost always shoot it at 3200, 1600 under tungsten light or in really low contrast situations, and process normally. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
It's Simple, interestingly so. In colour if you wash the colours out the picture is ruined, Out of focus colour is a bad shot, out of focus b/w is artistic. there is also the nostalgia factor. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/17/2002 2:11:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But things tend to look better in b/w in general. In your most humble opinion.. Except for certain limited individuals life is in color, why is B/W automatically better...generally? Why should I let an artificial limitation on film type drive my creative instincts? Did Dali paint only in B/W? Jerry - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Find, Connect Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Delta 3200
Aaron wrote: Ilford DD-X and Microphen are great for it, as well as Agfa Studional. I know a guy who does it in Rodinal and is very happy with it. Rodinal I've got - the others not available at present. But I do have a few 120 rolls of D-3200 coming from BH, so if you could pry time, temp EI from your friend (or your own grey matter, for that matter) I'd like to know. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
Hmmm. In a digital camera, can you make the LCD display in grayscale? If so, must you capture a monochrome image to do so? David Brooks wrote: When i go out to shoot BW,i usually have a theme in mind and when i compose a shot,I try very hard the visualize the final outcome in my head,as opposed to colour,which i can see both in the view finder and my head. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 67 vs. 67II
Aaron, I haven't noticed a speed difference, but I have not really used pre-67II's. Just hefted them in the shop. In our eyes here on the list, you are unique and we envy that 75/2.8 AL lens. Someday, I'm gonna get me one of those. I just have to get another lens or two first - fisheye, 45, etc. Brother Bruce Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 12:27:34 PM, you wrote: AR An interesting tidbit that came out during a conversation with a Toronto AR pro's assistant -- that sudden influx of Pentax 67s at Downtown Camera AR in the fall was because this photographer traded in most of his AR well-used 67s for 67IIs. His only complaint about moving from one to AR the other is that he can't shoot quite as fast with the 67II. With the AR 67 he could wind-fire-wind-fire in a very rapid motion because of the AR positioning of the shutter button and wind lever, but with the 67II he's AR 25% or so slower. AR Any 67II-ers notice this? I suppose you'd have to be shooting pretty AR fast to have it happen to you. I imagine it would have to do with the AR size and shape of your hands, too. AR Meanwhile, the assistant (who is also a bit of a Pentax fan) responds to AR my unveiling of my new 75mm f2.8 AL by saying, Yeah, Rob has one of AR those. It's really nice, isn't it? AR Damn! I am no longer unique. ;) AR -Aaron AR - AR This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, AR go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to AR visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[5]: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 03:39 PM, tom wrote: This means the film didn't catch fire and no one died. Tom, I get the impression that your local lab really sucks. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: eBay Funny: truth in advertising
Check out the example photos of without 2x converter and with 2x converter! The center was just cropped out and enlarged! HA! Well, I think that this is not a particularly serious sin - g. It certainly is not uncommon for with-and-without photos for TC ads (not just on eBay, but in catalogs, too) to use doctored enlargements. (I'm not saying that there is nothing wrong with this - I'm just saying that there are worse abuses on eBay.) If I really wanted that TC for some reason, for example, I'd have no qualms about bidding on it. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Super Program
Did all of you saying that this is a bad deal actually look at the auction? I don't think $182.50 is so bad for a SP, A 50/1.7, filters, bag, etc. I did look at it, but considered the body and lens (only) in my judgement. (The bag and filters were ignored.) So, when I said it's not a particularly good price, unless the SP is in really good shape, perhaps I should have said it's not a particularly good price, unless the SP and the lens are in really good shape. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina 150-500
Does anyone else have the Tokina 150-500mm f5.6 ATX ? If so, what do you think of it? A wee beastie. I am waiting to hear about your results. I used a Tokina AT-X 150-500/5.6 for a PUG shot one time, using an A 2X-L TC (zoomed out to 500mm, for a 1000/11 combination). http://pug.komkon.org/00marc/turtle1.htm I also have a few modest (that's polite-speak for marginal) Lens Gallery-type images at http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/x150500/ Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[5]: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:01:07 -0400, Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 03:39 PM, tom wrote: This means the film didn't catch fire and no one died. Tom, I get the impression that your local lab really sucks. ;) Don't most labs suck when it comes to b+w? It seem to me the world is set up for color proofs. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[7]: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:53:24 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: Tom, Do it myself because of fire hazard or type of developer they are using? Unfortunately, I am not currently equipped to do it myself. We're talking $50 for all the stuff you would need. Not sure if I want to become equipped. I am not much of a BW shooter (yet). This is to be more experimental in nature. In shooting the three speeds, would the lab adjust for the exposure or just normal processing for all 3? They would adjust, then you'd probably want to go another round. You could also mail it to me$15 for custom processing, a contact sheet and 3 day turnaround. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Super A / Program
I have never seen or heard or read of any Super A that was not black, or of any Super Program that was not chrome. Me neither, though there were both black and chrome Program Pluses. That's true for what I have seen, too, and it is interesting. (This is not the first time that Pentax marketing has confused me - g.) I am curious, though - are there any chrome Program A bodies? (Although I've seen both chrome and black Program Pluses, I have never seen anything but black Program A's.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
Brendan wrote: Colour and b/w are so very different, Agreed an image you see in your mind in colour does always not look good b/w and vs . Agreed But things tend to look better in b/w in general. Huh?! That's a pretty broad statement. Care to explain what you mean? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
In my Olympus C3000Z digital camera, if I select the color function the LCD is in color, if I select B/W the LCD is in grey scale, if I select sepia the LCD shows the scene in sepia I don't understand the second question. Jerry In a message dated 4/17/2002 3:02:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm. In a digital camera, can you make the LCD display in grayscale? If so, must you capture a monochrome image to do so? David Brooks wrote: When i go out to shoot BW,i usually have a theme in mind and when i compose a shot,I try very hard the visualize the final outcome in my head,as opposed to colour,which i can see both in the view finder and my head. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
In what way do you visualize the final outcome? Do you see how the shadows will look? Where the highlights will be? Do you try to visualize in detail, or just generally? How do you go about taking your vision and making it into a photograph? What drives your decision for film choices, EI, developer, and developing technique? David Brooks wrote: When i go out to shoot BW,i usually have a theme in mind and when i compose a shot,I try very hard the visualize the final outcome in my head -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
You're coming from a very strange place, Brendan ... Brendan wrote: It's Simple, interestingly so. In colour if you wash the colours out the picture is ruined, Out of focus colour is a bad shot, out of focus b/w is artistic. there is also the nostalgia factor. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leaf shutter operation on Pentax 67 165mm f/4.0 LS
- Original Message - From: Bolo Subject: Re: Leaf shutter operation on Pentax 67 165mm f/4.0 LS I asked about the operation of the leaf shutter, and have two conflicting answers! But we didn't flame each other To answer William, my thought was that since Pentax was trying to make the lens simpler that perhaps they built a leaf shutter which just closed. High speed sync would still be available -- the flash would fire after the focal plane shutter curtain opened, which would illuminate the entire frame. Then the 1/2 leaf shutter would close quickly, giving the high speed sync. Yes, there could be uneven exposure side due to the movement of the shutter curtain -- but there is already uneven exposure center to edges caused by the leaf shutter. There would be very uneven exposure. The 6x7 focal plane shutter is about as slow as you can get, and still have movement. Given the two answers I have one more question/statement ... I think the deciding factor has to go to the presence of of PC-cord sync connector on the lens. I've been tracking down photos of the lens, and finally found one which _I think_ definitely shows the presence of a PC connector. That implies that the leaf shutter must open and close. If it only closed then there would be no need for a sync connector, as the focal-plane-shutter-open event would allow for flash sync. In other words, does the 165LS have a PC connector? If so, I think it must work as William reports. The 165LS has a PC sync socket on the lens. Unfortunately, they left off the cable release socket that is on the 90mm leaf lens, which facilitated multiple exposures with the 6x7. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
Again. this is opinionnot fact. A bad picture is a bad picturejust putting it in b/w will not save it. Jerry In a message dated 4/17/2002 2:36:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's Simple, interestingly so. In colour if you wash the colours out the picture is ruined, Out of focus colour is a bad shot, out of focus b/w is artistic. there is also the nostalgia factor. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/17/2002 2:11:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But things tend to look better in b/w in general. In your most humble opinion.. Except for certain limited individuals life is in color, why is B/W automatically better...generally? Why should I let an artificial limitation on film type drive my creative instincts? Did Dali paint only in B/W? Jerry - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PDML NW US and BC users
Just been talking with Chris Murray on his cell, and it turns out we are both on another user group, Vancouver Linux User Group. We got talking about getting together with other PDML member for a day out. What would you BC, WA and OR PDML members feel about getting together like the Toronto group did last weekend? James Richmond, BC - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
Yup I just spent 4 months looking at snow. --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're coming from a very strange place, Brendan ... Brendan wrote: It's Simple, interestingly so. In colour if you wash the colours out the picture is ruined, Out of focus colour is a bad shot, out of focus b/w is artistic. there is also the nostalgia factor. __ Find, Connect Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MTF [Re[2]: 100 mm f2.8 FA (versus F) Macro]
As far as I know, there is no authoritative source stating the MZ (ZX) series ignores MTF info available in FA lenses. In fact, I think this myth originates from the statement of a former Pentax engineer (published on an old Pentax FAQ site), alleging that (P)Z-1p was the only camera capable of reading the MTF info. By that time however Z-1p was still hot, so we can assume MZ-5 was not out yet, nor were the other MZ cameras. Actually, I see no reason why Pentax wouldn't have implemented MTF - as well as D (focus distance) and F (focal length) encoders - in the program algorithms of various MZ cameras, and especially in those with refined program lines, like MZ-10, 7, etc. Servus, Alin Alin, the (P)Z-1p and the MZ-S have program settings to shoot lenses at the MTF stop. I'm not sure about the (P)Z-1, but am pretty sure no other bodies have this. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 03:36 PM, Brendan wrote: In colour if you wash the colours out the picture is ruined, Out of focus colour is a bad shot, out of focus b/w is artistic. Dude, reading Photo.net is rotting your brain. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
That will do it g. Brendan wrote: Yup I just spent 4 months looking at snow. --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're coming from a very strange place, Brendan ... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 100 mm f2.8 FA (versus F) Macro
Thanks. So the MTF is irrelevant. I was wondering if the autofocus technology had advanced much since the F version was made, which was ... what, early 90s? Autofocus capability depends on the body, and that has changed, with the best being the current MZ-S. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Thinking in BW
That to. --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 03:36 PM, Brendan wrote: In colour if you wash the colours out the picture is ruined, Out of focus colour is a bad shot, out of focus b/w is artistic. Dude, reading Photo.net is rotting your brain. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Find, Connect Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: ebay steal
Bill, I have both a 55 and 90. I think that for a single lens, 55 is just a tad too wide. 75 or 90 would actually be better. The 55 is actually more like a 28mm. The 75 is closer to 35mm and the 90 is about 45-50 ish. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 3:28:10 PM, you wrote: WK 55mm in 67 format would be around 35mm in 35mm format, right? Hmmm, it WK is a nice price judging from what KEH lists . . . I can't afford it WK right now though . . . unless I were to go for this instead of a normal WK lens . . . what does the brotherhood think? WK Illinois Bill WK William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: ebay steal http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1346801122 BIN is great price! I have this lens and its superb! Jeeze, JC, if I had one more glass of wine under my belt, I would have hit the BIn. Still might. I don't need this lens. I don't like this angle of view. HELP MEEE!! William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . WK - WK This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, WK go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to WK visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aaron's wedding (was: Re: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?))
I can!! ;-) -frank Jeff wrote: Aaron, Can't picture you marching down the isle with the 67 wrapped around your neck. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF280T flash
Hi Taka, Just turn it on, set it on TTL and you`re now taking perfectly exposed photos (with Super P). It`s a great little unit. Congrats! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: AF280T flash Thanks to you all, I now have an AF280T flash. Now the question is- how do I use it? All I got was the flash, no instructions. Pentax doesn't have this flash's manual on their website. :-( With a Super Program on the way, all I need are a few more lenses and the Motor Drive A and I'm all set- complete Pentax system. Happy, happy. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aaron's wedding (was: Re: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?))
And I've promised Vanessa that I will not interfere with the photographs. -Aaron Aaron, I can lend you my ESPIO, so you can sneak a few shots of your own. Can't picture you marching down the isle with the 67 wrapped around your neck. Jeff. P.S. Do you process E-6 in your store? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF280T flash
Taka, I copied the instructions and somebody put them up on a web site. Was it Chris? Anyway if you don't get a response ask again and I'll dig out the original 16 jpg's (3+ megs). Regards, Bob S. Thanks to you all, I now have an AF280T flash. Now the question is- how do I use it? All I got was the flash, no instructions. Pentax doesn't have this flash's manual on their website. :-( - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Oh, sweet enablement!
Hehe, arrived in the mail today, I am the proud owner of a Tokina 80-200/2.8 AT-X. This would be the old manual focus type, but it is my first pro caliber zoom lens. I was quite surprised by how light the box was, and almost asked the delivery man to wait until I had confirmed that the lens was in fact in the box. Well, it was. I am very pleasantly surprised by how it feels on the camera, and how it balances in my hand with the pz1p. It was bought from KEH, and was listed in bargain condition; but I think there's maybe one or two scratches on the body of the lens and no marks on the glass whatsoever. It is missing the tripod mount, but with a quick call to Tokina I found out that I can get the requisite parts for about $15 plus shipping. I have not developed any of the film shot with it just yet, but would be happy to post some examples later for anyone interested. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF280T flash
Steve, Thanks, I figured that part out, but I'd like to know about the other modes. Can you help out w/ these other modes? I tested the TTL capability- works great. I think this flash may also replace my Minolta flash for use w/ the Spotmatic. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
This is too wierd!!!!
http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivat or__Aproductlist_html___222079___PEBG___REG___CatID=0___SID=ED7CC9102A0 The BG-10 grip at BH is now listed as the grip that fits the MZ-S AND AND AND the MZ-SD What is the MZ-SD Is our long awaited digital finally around the corner!!! Sorry I'm so excited! -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera bags- advice needed
Take a look at the LowePro Street and Field Reporter AW series. I have the largest of the series (the 500) and usually carry tons of gear. 2 bodies, AF500, AF330, 28-70/4, 80-200/2.8, 300/4.5, digital ps, batteries, film, light meter, notepad, calculator, lens cleaning supplies, pocket calendar, I could prolly go on but I won't. You could prolly get by with the 200 or the 300. One of the greatest things about this series is that there are many accessories that you can add to the bags; lens cases, film bags, even cellphone holders, etc. There is also an available belt that slides through the back of the bag converting it into a beltpack (a large beltpack, but...). The bags also include two rain covers built in, one for light sprinkles and one for gullywashers; this is my first Texas spring with this bag, and I don't know how I kept my gear dry without those before. Mine cost right at $130 at a local camera store, the smaller ones are less than $100 I'm sure. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ -- From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera bags- advice needed Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 5:37 PM Hi all- Now that I have access to an SLR, I'm all set to get back into photography and need some help w/ camera bags. I made the mistake of getting a Lowepro Mini-Trekker backpack, which is a great bag but a bit too small when you're trying to carry a bunch of junk- 3 bodies, 5 lenses, 2 flashes, 2 PSes, a digital PS and God knows what else. I should have gotten the Trekker. :-) Anyway, that said, I need a bag to use as an everyday carry-along bag for when I'm using the camera. My requirements are that I can carry an 80-200 zoom (f4 not the big 2.8 monster) mounted on the camera, along with a 24-28mm wide angle prime, possibly a flash as well, and some film, filters, etc. I thought the Lowepro Off Trail 2 would be the ticket, but wonder if the Off Trail 1 might work well enough. Anyone here use this bag or its brethren? I need to know if I can fit the aforementioned 80-200mm f4 zoom in the Off Trail 1, otherwise, I'll have to order the next size up Off Trail 2. I might see if the local shop will let me try putting something like a Nikon N65 into the bag with a zoom attached. Anyone have the dimensions of the Pentax M or A 70-210mm f/4 zoom? That's the one I want to get. Nice thing about these bags is that the extra lens cases are detachable, making the bag really small when that's wanted as well as the interchangeability between the waist belt and the shoulder strap. Thanks, Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Camera bags- advice needed
Nick- Thanks for the advice- right now, I'm really only looking to get a bag to carry one SLR w/ zoom mounted, a small prime, flash, misc. stuff, that's it. I think once I get my stuff organized, the PSes will get relegated elsewhere or I will get another bag, as you mentioned, to carry all the extra stuff that I won't normally carry. Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Wright Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Camera bags- advice needed Take a look at the LowePro Street and Field Reporter AW series. I have the largest of the series (the 500) and usually carry tons of gear. 2 bodies, AF500, AF330, 28-70/4, 80-200/2.8, 300/4.5, digital ps, batteries, film, light meter, notepad, calculator, lens cleaning supplies, pocket calendar, I could prolly go on but I won't. You could prolly get by with the 200 or the 300. One of the greatest things about this series is that there are many accessories that you can add to the bags; lens cases, film bags, even cellphone holders, etc. There is also an available belt that slides through the back of the bag converting it into a beltpack (a large beltpack, but...). The bags also include two rain covers built in, one for light sprinkles and one for gullywashers; this is my first Texas spring with this bag, and I don't know how I kept my gear dry without those before. Mine cost right at $130 at a local camera store, the smaller ones are less than $100 I'm sure. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ -- From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera bags- advice needed Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 5:37 PM Hi all- Now that I have access to an SLR, I'm all set to get back into photography and need some help w/ camera bags. I made the mistake of getting a Lowepro Mini-Trekker backpack, which is a great bag but a bit too small when you're trying to carry a bunch of junk- 3 bodies, 5 lenses, 2 flashes, 2 PSes, a digital PS and God knows what else. I should have gotten the Trekker. :-) Anyway, that said, I need a bag to use as an everyday carry-along bag for when I'm using the camera. My requirements are that I can carry an 80-200 zoom (f4 not the big 2.8 monster) mounted on the camera, along with a 24-28mm wide angle prime, possibly a flash as well, and some film, filters, etc. I thought the Lowepro Off Trail 2 would be the ticket, but wonder if the Off Trail 1 might work well enough. Anyone here use this bag or its brethren? I need to know if I can fit the aforementioned 80-200mm f4 zoom in the Off Trail 1, otherwise, I'll have to order the next size up Off Trail 2. I might see if the local shop will let me try putting something like a Nikon N65 into the bag with a zoom attached. Anyone have the dimensions of the Pentax M or A 70-210mm f/4 zoom? That's the one I want to get. Nice thing about these bags is that the extra lens cases are detachable, making the bag really small when that's wanted as well as the interchangeability between the waist belt and the shoulder strap. Thanks, Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Super A / Program
So do we have a significant contingent of Super A/ Super Program owners here? I hear a lot about are LXes, MXes and the medium format gear- thought I was one of the few with one of these. :-) Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Do you ever buy from E-bay?
Julia- I'm new here too, but after speaking to fellow PDMLers, I've gotten some stuff on ebay to fill out my system- got another Super Program on the way, got my AF280T flash today, probably will pick up some lenses at KEH shortly. Personally, if you don't already have screwmount lenses, I wouldn't bother with a screwmount body right now, that's MHO. I needed a screwmount body while my Dad's old Spotmatic goes in for service so that I can conveniently use the lenses I have. JCO hooked me up with an SP1000- thanks, man. I'll shoot a roll of Reala 100 to see how it does this weekend. No Kodak RG100 available near me. Sorry for digressing- to answer your question, I don't think ebay is particularly bad as long as you are careful on what you're bidding and don't get carried away and bid too high. I haven't gotten any smoking deals yet, but I think approx. $100 each for another Super Program and the AF280T isn't too bad. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera bags- advice needed
The 200 would be just about right for what you've mentioned. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ -- From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Camera bags- advice needed Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 6:20 PM Nick- Thanks for the advice- right now, I'm really only looking to get a bag to carry one SLR w/ zoom mounted, a small prime, flash, misc. stuff, that's it. I think once I get my stuff organized, the PSes will get relegated elsewhere or I will get another bag, as you mentioned, to carry all the extra stuff that I won't normally carry. Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Wright Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Camera bags- advice needed Take a look at the LowePro Street and Field Reporter AW series. I have the largest of the series (the 500) and usually carry tons of gear. 2 bodies, AF500, AF330, 28-70/4, 80-200/2.8, 300/4.5, digital ps, batteries, film, light meter, notepad, calculator, lens cleaning supplies, pocket calendar, I could prolly go on but I won't. You could prolly get by with the 200 or the 300. One of the greatest things about this series is that there are many accessories that you can add to the bags; lens cases, film bags, even cellphone holders, etc. There is also an available belt that slides through the back of the bag converting it into a beltpack (a large beltpack, but...). The bags also include two rain covers built in, one for light sprinkles and one for gullywashers; this is my first Texas spring with this bag, and I don't know how I kept my gear dry without those before. Mine cost right at $130 at a local camera store, the smaller ones are less than $100 I'm sure. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ -- From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera bags- advice needed Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 5:37 PM Hi all- Now that I have access to an SLR, I'm all set to get back into photography and need some help w/ camera bags. I made the mistake of getting a Lowepro Mini-Trekker backpack, which is a great bag but a bit too small when you're trying to carry a bunch of junk- 3 bodies, 5 lenses, 2 flashes, 2 PSes, a digital PS and God knows what else. I should have gotten the Trekker. :-) Anyway, that said, I need a bag to use as an everyday carry-along bag for when I'm using the camera. My requirements are that I can carry an 80-200 zoom (f4 not the big 2.8 monster) mounted on the camera, along with a 24-28mm wide angle prime, possibly a flash as well, and some film, filters, etc. I thought the Lowepro Off Trail 2 would be the ticket, but wonder if the Off Trail 1 might work well enough. Anyone here use this bag or its brethren? I need to know if I can fit the aforementioned 80-200mm f4 zoom in the Off Trail 1, otherwise, I'll have to order the next size up Off Trail 2. I might see if the local shop will let me try putting something like a Nikon N65 into the bag with a zoom attached. Anyone have the dimensions of the Pentax M or A 70-210mm f/4 zoom? That's the one I want to get. Nice thing about these bags is that the extra lens cases are detachable, making the bag really small when that's wanted as well as the interchangeability between the waist belt and the shoulder strap. Thanks, Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
When did PentaxUSA change their webpage?
I know that I looked at it last week and it was same old, same old. Now it's very different, nice though. http://pentax.com/index.cfm -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera bags- advice needed
Hi all, Lowepro Off Trail 1 is a real thing! My ZX-7 fits well into that bag. And there is still about 3-4 cm gap with my 24-70 Sigma. Currently i'm not using these extra 2 lense holders. Dimensions: 16.5 x 11 x 18.5 cm. And, by the way, it is water resistant too. TM wrote: I thought the Lowepro Off Trail 2 would be the ticket, but wonder if the Off Trail 1 might work well enough. Anyone here use this bag or its brethren? I need to know if I can fit the aforementioned 80-200mm f4 zoom in the Off Trail 1, otherwise, I'll have to order the next size up Off Trail 2. I might see if the local shop will let me try putting something like a Nikon N65 into the bag with a zoom attached. Cptn. Gasha NT is faster from 0 to 60, but you need UNIX to get to 100 --- Tieto Konts has changed name to TietoEnator Financial Solutions - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Super Program -Value
I have been following the discussion about what a Super program is worth and nobody has yet touched on what I consider to be the only relevant criteria of worth - how much is it worth to YOU. What it's worth to someone else doesn't matter to me. If I want it, and I have the money, I'll buy it and never look back. I could care less what the next guy sells or buys one like it for. A couple of weeks ago I bought a Super Program for $250.00. I love it and think I got the deal of a lifetime. It was brand new in the original package, not a fingerprint on it, not a mark on the plastic bottom protector. The strap and accessory package was still wrapped up, the protective plastic tag was still in place on the film pressure plate, and the viewfinder cover, which is always the first piece to get lost, was in place. I have no idea where the camera has been for the last 15 or so years and I don't care. I also have no idea of it's value. All I know is that I love it and am glad I had the money to spend to get it. My daughter had been borrowing my K-1000 for about 10 years. When she returned it, I had it repaired and reconditioned which cost $175. Did I pay too much? Not in my mind. I have had the camera for probably 25 years. Now it's back in great condition. Both of these expenditures made me very happy, and to me, that's the only measure of true worth. Chuck Hintlian Sacramento, CA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do you ever buy from E-bay?
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:10:27 -0400, J. Gerace wrote: Hi Everyone, Really enjoying the conversations here. Just reading a lot right now. Butyou all got me thinking about buying lenses and stuff, so I've been checking out E-Bay. That's what we're best at. There's a couple of K1000 packages that come with a few lenses (that seem nice to me) and a SP1000 with a few as well. Would it be reasonable to try for one of these? Probably the K's, because of the lens mount...plus, then I'll have a spare body. Um...first make up your mind as to what exactly you want. Then go look for it. Ebay is fine if you know what you're doing - compare prices to keh.com, make sure the person you're buying from has good feedback, don't get screwed over shipping charges. I was wondering too if you all wind up bidding against eachother? : ) The 2nd or 3rd auction I ever bid on I ended up getting sniped by Boz. I was pissed for about 10 minutes. Oh, and I saw an LX body for sale too.. *That's* what you really want tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Didn't Rollei make a modular 35mm camera that took small 35mm film backs? Jim A. From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 13:28:50 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR Does not work. The camera would have to have a interchangable film magazine back first. That means it would have to be a different camera. Maybe an MZ/DF (for DigiFilm? AFAIK the only 35mm cameras that have had magazine backs in the past where the Kodak Ektra, and the Zeiss Contrarex. Anyone know of any others? BTW, I always kind of thought the Olypus Pen F SLR would be a good basis for a digicam since the 18x24mm format is great for current sensors. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR Digital back for MZ-S say it with me now :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Super A / Program
TM wrote: I hear a lot about are LXes, MXes and the medium format gear- thought I was one of the few with one of these. :-) nah - lots of us out there. I use mine w/ my old screwmount Takumars a lot. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera bags- advice needed
Taka, My wife has an Off Trail 1 for his setup. I suspect it will be too small for what you are wanting. In the main compartment, the ZX-10 with Tokina 28-105/3.5-4.5 zoom fits nice. In one side compartment the Pentax 80-320 zoom barely fits. In the other compartment goes a 280T flash (barely) and batteries/film. If the 80-320 is on the camera, it won't fit the main compartment. I gotta believe that the 80-200/4 is going to be a bit big. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 3:37:13 PM, you wrote: T Hi all- T Now that I have access to an SLR, I'm all set to get back T into photography and need some help w/ camera bags. T I made the mistake of getting a Lowepro Mini-Trekker backpack, T which is a great bag but a bit too small when you're trying to T carry a bunch of junk- 3 bodies, 5 lenses, 2 flashes, 2 PSes, T a digital PS and God knows what else. I should have gotten the T Trekker. :-) T Anyway, that said, I need a bag to use as an everyday carry-along T bag for when I'm using the camera. My requirements are that I can T carry an 80-200 zoom (f4 not the big 2.8 monster) mounted on the T camera, along with a 24-28mm wide angle prime, possibly a flash as T well, and some film, filters, etc. T I thought the Lowepro Off Trail 2 would be the ticket, but wonder if T the Off Trail 1 might work well enough. Anyone here use this bag or T its brethren? I need to know if I can fit the aforementioned 80-200mm T f4 zoom in the Off Trail 1, otherwise, I'll have to order the next size T up Off Trail 2. I might see if the local shop will let me try putting T something like a Nikon N65 into the bag with a zoom attached. T Anyone have the dimensions of the Pentax M or A 70-210mm f/4 zoom? T That's the one I want to get. T Nice thing about these bags is that the extra lens cases are detachable, T making the bag really small when that's wanted as well as the T interchangeability T between the waist belt and the shoulder strap. T Thanks, T Taka T - T This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, T go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to T visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aaron's wedding (was: Re: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?))
67 around his neck and a ring through his nose :-) Sorry Aaron, I couldn't resist. (And I've been happily married for 30 years) Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Aaron's wedding (was: Re: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?)) And I've promised Vanessa that I will not interfere with the photographs. -Aaron Aaron, I can lend you my ESPIO, so you can sneak a few shots of your own. Can't picture you marching down the isle with the 67 wrapped around your neck. Jeff. P.S. Do you process E-6 in your store? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Super Program
I picked up my like new SP at a pawn shop. $200.00 including a 50/1.7 a, Talkumar A 28mm 2.8 and a Sigma 70-210 UC. I was able to get all the correct lens caps to after search the case for a few minutes. I sold the 28mm for $30 or $40, so it was a pretty good deal. Jim Fellows - Original Message - From: James Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Pentax Super Program I suppose I was only really interested in pricing the Super Program and A 50/1.7, the other stuff is worthless junk. I've had two bags, four flashes over the past while, and most are worn out or not practical. Filters and gizmos are cheap at best, so I don't count those when considering a buy. A couple of times I've told the guy not to send the 'junky' stuff, it does cut down postage. James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: When did PentaxUSA change their webpage?
I see that they now have manuals for the MX, the MZ-S, and the 6x7II added. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:31 PM Subject: When did PentaxUSA change their webpage? I know that I looked at it last week and it was same old, same old. Now it's very different, nice though. http://pentax.com/index.cfm -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do you ever buy from E-bay?
Hi, Julia, Ask questions if you're not sure about everything. If it just says seems to work well, or something vague like that, write the vendor and ask specifically if the meter works, for instance. Ask if all the shutter speeds work, how many rolls he's put through the camera, if it was his, or if he's selling for a friend. If his answer is vague, or not forthcoming, beware! Ask if the lenses have fungus, or spots or haze on them. Not that all vendors are trying to screw you, but many people selling camera equipment don't know much about them, for instance, if they are selling from an estate or something. Know what you're bidding for, what the value is, and don't get sucked into bidding wars. If you don't get what you want, another one will come up sooner or later. Check the guy's feedback. Not that you should never buy from anyone with negative feedback, or no feedback at all, but at least know what you're getting into, and adjust your maximum bid accordingly. Personally, I don't buy anything expensive on eBay - so far my biggest purchase has been around $60US. Remember, eBay is Caveat Emptor. If you get screwed, your remedies are limited - yeah, you can give the guy bad feedback, complain to eBay and get them removed as a vender (so they can log on as a different user, and sell some more). At least if you don't spend much, you can't lose much, either. That being said, you can get some great bargains there - I have, and so have many others on this list. regards, frank J. Gerace wrote: Hi Everyone, Really enjoying the conversations here. Just reading a lot right now. Butyou all got me thinking about buying lenses and stuff, so I've been checking out E-Bay. There's a couple of K1000 packages that come with a few lenses (that seem nice to me) and a SP1000 with a few as well. Would it be reasonable to try for one of these? Probably the K's, because of the lens mount...plus, then I'll have a spare body. I was wondering too if you all wind up bidding against eachother? : ) Oh, and I saw an LX body for sale too.. Thanks, Julia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ebay steal
Bruce, Thanks for the info. I don't like 28 as well for 35mm, so I'll be looking for something slightly more tele. Generally, I like the 35-135 range . . . Illinois Bill Bruce Dayton wrote: Bill, I have both a 55 and 90. I think that for a single lens, 55 is just a tad too wide. 75 or 90 would actually be better. The 55 is actually more like a 28mm. The 75 is closer to 35mm and the 90 is about 45-50 ish. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 3:28:10 PM, you wrote: WK 55mm in 67 format would be around 35mm in 35mm format, right? Hmmm, it WK is a nice price judging from what KEH lists . . . I can't afford it WK right now though . . . unless I were to go for this instead of a normal WK lens . . . what does the brotherhood think? WK Illinois Bill WK William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: ebay steal http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1346801122 BIN is great price! I have this lens and its superb! Jeeze, JC, if I had one more glass of wine under my belt, I would have hit the BIn. Still might. I don't need this lens. I don't like this angle of view. HELP MEEE!! William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . WK - WK This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, WK go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to WK visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF280T flash
Taka, With the Super Program, all you have to do is put batteries in, set the flash to TTL, set your ISO, put it on the camera and take pictures!! You'll love the combo. My main setup for years was this along with the Winder ME II, and A 35-105/3.5. Illinois Bill TM wrote: Thanks to you all, I now have an AF280T flash. Now the question is- how do I use it? All I got was the flash, no instructions. Pentax doesn't have this flash's manual on their website. :-( With a Super Program on the way, all I need are a few more lenses and the Motor Drive A and I'm all set- complete Pentax system. Happy, happy. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-SD?!?!
Its always been listed as that, it was like that when i bought mine, when the MZ-S first came out. Paul - Original Message - From: Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: MZ-SD?!?! The BG-10 grip is now listed at BH as being the grip for the MZ-S ~AND~ the MZ-SD!!! Is this our long awaited digital camera? http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivat or__Aproductlist_html___222079___PEBG___REG___CatID=0___SID=ED7CC9102A0 Sorry if this comes through twice. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-SD?!?!
The BG-10 grip is now listed at BH as being the grip for the MZ-S ~AND~ the MZ-SD!!! Is this our long awaited digital camera? http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivat or__Aproductlist_html___222079___PEBG___REG___CatID=0___SID=ED7CC9102A0 Sorry if this comes through twice. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: This is too wierd!!!!
Nick, I just bopped over to the BH website and searched for MZ-SD. I got eleven different accessories that are listed as for MZ-S and MZ-SD. Hm. One explanation is that the MZ-SD is the MZ-S with the date function. When I look at the MZ-S listing, however, it reads, MZ-S 35mm SLR Autofocus Camera Body with Date. Hmm. I can see why you might be excited --Mark -Nick wrote:- [link deleted] The BG-10 grip at BH is now listed as the grip that fits the MZ-S AND AND AND the MZ-SD What is the MZ-SD Is our long awaited digital finally around the corner!!! Sorry I'm so excited! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF280T flash
OK, just to the right of TTL is AUTO, which has two modes, red is high output, green is low output, both are non-TTL, but flash is controlled by the built-in sensor. Then you have MS High and Low, which is non-TTL high output and low output. Then you have M. This setting gives full power only. The FINDER/A.Check is still fuzzy with me, so I`m getting out the manual, it says: Automatic Exposure Check: Another advantage of the AF280T is that you can make sure your subject is within the flash units automatic exposure control range by pressing the Test button before actually making the exposure. If the subject is within the auto operating range and proper exposure is possible, the auto check lamp (A.CHECK) of the flash unit will light after the exposure. If the lamp does not light, use a more powerful flash setting or move closer to the subject. [END] It`s a nice flash! Now put it on TTL with the Super P and forget about it ;) Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:53 PM Subject: RE: AF280T flash Steve, Thanks, I figured that part out, but I'd like to know about the other modes. Can you help out w/ these other modes? I tested the TTL capability- works great. I think this flash may also replace my Minolta flash for use w/ the Spotmatic. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera bags- advice needed
I have the off trail one. I replaced one of the side lens carriers with a street and field # 2 lens case to hold my 70-240 f4 or my 100-300 F. I cannot fit either one of those lenses in the main compartment mounted to either my Super Program or Z-5. My 35-105 f3.5, superprogram and ME II winder will fin but its tight. Same with my Z-5 with the old power zoom 28-105 mounted. Jim fellows - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Camera bags- advice needed Taka, My wife has an Off Trail 1 for his setup. I suspect it will be too small for what you are wanting. In the main compartment, the ZX-10 with Tokina 28-105/3.5-4.5 zoom fits nice. In one side compartment the Pentax 80-320 zoom barely fits. In the other compartment goes a 280T flash (barely) and batteries/film. If the 80-320 is on the camera, it won't fit the main compartment. I gotta believe that the 80-200/4 is going to be a bit big. Bruce Dayton Wednesday, April 17, 2002, 3:37:13 PM, you wrote: T Hi all- T Now that I have access to an SLR, I'm all set to get back T into photography and need some help w/ camera bags. T I made the mistake of getting a Lowepro Mini-Trekker backpack, T which is a great bag but a bit too small when you're trying to T carry a bunch of junk- 3 bodies, 5 lenses, 2 flashes, 2 PSes, T a digital PS and God knows what else. I should have gotten the T Trekker. :-) T Anyway, that said, I need a bag to use as an everyday carry-along T bag for when I'm using the camera. My requirements are that I can T carry an 80-200 zoom (f4 not the big 2.8 monster) mounted on the T camera, along with a 24-28mm wide angle prime, possibly a flash as T well, and some film, filters, etc. T I thought the Lowepro Off Trail 2 would be the ticket, but wonder if T the Off Trail 1 might work well enough. Anyone here use this bag or T its brethren? I need to know if I can fit the aforementioned 80-200mm T f4 zoom in the Off Trail 1, otherwise, I'll have to order the next size T up Off Trail 2. I might see if the local shop will let me try putting T something like a Nikon N65 into the bag with a zoom attached. T Anyone have the dimensions of the Pentax M or A 70-210mm f/4 zoom? T That's the one I want to get. T Nice thing about these bags is that the extra lens cases are detachable, T making the bag really small when that's wanted as well as the T interchangeability T between the waist belt and the shoulder strap. T Thanks, T Taka T - T This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, T go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to T visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Cameras at baseball games
Hi, I recall that several months ago, there was a discussion about bringing cameras and (especially) long lenses to pro sporting events. I went to a baseball game here in Toronto at the Skydome last night (BoSox killed the Jays, FWIW). I brought a Spotmatic body and my Tak 3.5 200 mm pre-set. I was a bit worried, after hearing from some listers who reported being hassled about bringing such equipment into events. Plus, the last time I was at the Air Canada Centre (home of the Maple Leafs and Raptors), I noticed big signs, saying that cameras with lenses longer than 70mm aren't allowed. So, I kind of had my camera slung behind my back, and had the big lens in it's case - no camera bag, so as not to attract attention. Well security ~did~ notice. They wanted to look at the lens, and asked me to take off a lens cap. Presumably they wanted to make sure that I wasn't sneaking in some booze. Once they were satisfied that it was a working lens, there was no problem. Didn't get any good pics, I don't think. Turns out that we were too far away from the field. Oh well. But, at least in Toronto, cameras and long lenses aren't a problem at baseball games. FWIW... regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do you ever buy from E-bay?
It happens only when I bid on something, then JCO, that ruthless sniper costs me more money ;) Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California J. Gerace wrote: [SNIP] I was wondering too if you all wind up bidding against eachother? : ) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Beginner with a question...
Hi, My name is Rachel and I am a 27yo female from Australia, I am new here and also to photography. I purchases a MZ-50 to learn on and I plan to upgrade in a year or so. I didn't want to put too much money into a camera until I had more of an idea of what I wanted in a camera. I got a Sigma 28mm-80mm Macro lens for my bithday and I would really like to get a flash ring for my macro photography, can anyone reccommend one for my particular camera. Also is there a flash ring I can use that will also fit any camera that I wish to update to in the future? I have started a 6 month introduction to photography course, so I hope that puts me up to speed with some stuff. Regards, Rachel. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Do you ever buy from E-bay?
Julia,
unless it say's just CLA'd (or even then...), ask about EVERYTHING. You
can't be too cautious. I once got a Canonet in which all shutter speeds
worked, but the aperture blades didn't move, and the seller's ad said
shutter speeds work. Not a word about the aperture!
And don't believe people that say they are unable to check something obvious
(I have no battery, so I cannot test it - even if the batteries are
unavailable [i.e. discontinued]
to check if a meter works one can use something with a bit different
voltage; all it takes is a bit of good will on the part of the seller).
Having said that - do not think all Ebay sellers are trying to screw you
('scuse my language) - most of them are really honest, nice people. But some
of them don't know much about cameras (as Frank already pointed out), and it
is up to you whether you buy junk or a mint Super A body.
So ASK, ASK, and ASK, and if you don't get straight answers - back up and
wait for the next one. You won't have to wait long.
Good luck with your bidding.
Lukasz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of frank theriault
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Do you ever buy from E-bay?
Hi, Julia,
Ask questions if you're not sure about everything. If it just says seems
to work well, or something vague like that, write the vendor and ask
specifically if the meter works, for instance. Ask if all the shutter
speeds work, how many rolls he's put through the camera, if it was his, or
if he's selling for a friend. If his answer is vague, or not forthcoming,
beware! Ask if the lenses have fungus, or spots or haze on them. Not that
all vendors are trying to screw you, but many people selling camera
equipment don't know much about them, for instance, if they are selling from
an estate or something.
Know what you're bidding for, what the value is, and don't get sucked into
bidding wars. If you don't get what you want, another one will come up
sooner or later.
Check the guy's feedback. Not that you should never buy from anyone with
negative feedback, or no feedback at all, but at least know what you're
getting into, and adjust your maximum bid accordingly.
Personally, I don't buy anything expensive on eBay - so far my biggest
purchase has been around $60US. Remember, eBay is Caveat Emptor. If you
get screwed, your remedies are limited - yeah, you can give the guy bad
feedback, complain to eBay and get them removed as a vender (so they can log
on as a different user, and sell some more). At least if you don't spend
much, you can't lose much, either.
That being said, you can get some great bargains there - I have, and so have
many others on this list.
regards,
frank
J. Gerace wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Really enjoying the conversations here. Just reading a lot right now.
Butyou all got me thinking about buying lenses and stuff, so I've
been checking out E-Bay. There's a couple of K1000 packages that come
with a few lenses (that seem nice to me) and a SP1000 with a few as
well. Would it be reasonable to try for one of these? Probably the K's,
because of the lens mount...plus, then I'll have a spare body.
I was wondering too if you all wind up bidding against eachother? : )
Oh, and I saw an LX body for sale too..
Thanks,
Julia
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Re: MZ-SD?!?!
Really? I've looked these items up before, and I do not recall them being listed as such. Though, I have been wrong before. :) -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ -- From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-SD?!?! Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 7:44 PM Its always been listed as that, it was like that when i bought mine, when the MZ-S first came out. Paul - Original Message - From: Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: MZ-SD?!?! The BG-10 grip is now listed at BH as being the grip for the MZ-S ~AND~ the MZ-SD!!! Is this our long awaited digital camera? http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivat or__Aproductlist_html___222079___PEBG___REG___CatID=0___SID=ED7CC9102A0 Sorry if this comes through twice. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
