Re: Lens and body color options
What is the rationale for this? Nothing is rational when it comes to Pentax. regards, Alan Chan _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX repair: UK information
Hi, Just for information, my LX, at Pentax UK, is going to cost £108 for shutter magnet repair and returning to Pentax specification. As the latter was done recently, I think they are getting quite a good deal 8-) mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Odp: Re: Odp: Polacy na PDML (was Re: )
on 13.05.02 23:28, Artur Ledchowski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately next weekend I'm going fishing... Greetz Artur - So, you'd better take Fish Eye with you ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format - I can see clearly now...
Cotty wrote: I have yet to put a roll of transparency film through - what would be good for landscapes on MF? I now have a polariser attached. I'm quite fond of E100SW and before I came over to the UK I was starting to get into Provia 100F a little. Velvia is not my cup of tea as the colours are very strong and it is pretty high in contrast. I would recommend taking care with the polariser. I don't use them often but they can be useful at times. They make a good ND filter if you're desperate :) I rarely shoot print film in medium format, but Reala is definitely a wonderful film for MF and I'm not surprised about your good impression of it. I have a lovely 30x40 framed print of the Endeavour replica hanging on the lounge wall at home (living room for Americans). It was taken off a 6x7 Reala neg. After trying out a couple of rolls of Agfa Portrait 160 in 35mm last year I'm keen to try it in 6x7. Believe it or not I quite liked it as a landscaping film. But I've been known to do weird things, like deliberately underexposing Superia 800 by two stops just for the mega-grain effect. Once you hit about -2.5 stops the machine won't automatically print it :) Cheers, - Dave. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: RE: A*85/1.4 - one for $1,100+, one for $438
Hi, I also rated it as a joke But who knows! ;-) Bob wrote: That was the Canadian 'Wheatfield Willy' making that claim about US nationals and Germans. I think he was joking, but those Canadians get crazy this time of year with the Hockey playoffs and the tundra thawing. g It sounds like your banks are also extracting heavy fees for international transactions. There has to be a business opportunity here somewhere. For transfer from Europe to America, one can use an EURO-CHECK named to a special person. I did this in the past and the fees were quite low. regards - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT film question: difference between USA and Imported
BH lists two different types of film for most of the brand/specification. One is marked USA and another Imported. The price difference is quite a lot, especially for print films. Are the imported films markedly more inferior to the ones made in the USA? Or it doesn't really matter and would effect only those extremely finicky. Thanks! Gaurav - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AA battery types
JDCR Smacking self in head I use rechargeables for my cd player and havent a JDCR clue why I never thought to do the same for my camera equipment!!! One JDCR problem is that after a while, it seems that the life (or rather, JDCR turn-around time) on my rechargeables has diminished significantly; and JDCR was already significantly shorter than nonrechargeables to begin with... JDCR However! My rechargeables are cheap ones. Now that I think about it, i Jerome, it's not your rechargables being cheap - most of the high-ends are made by same chinese factory as the cheaper ones... GP is a big chinese producer of rechargables. What counts most is the *charger*. Most chargers are stupid, overcharging the batteries thus diminishing their life, especially cheap built-in chargers like in CD players and mobile phones. Get a good quality, dV, IC driven charger for your NiMH and you will be a very happy person :) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 31mm Ltd. vs. FA 35 f2
Jim wrote: Does anyone have experience with both lenses? Is the 31 Ltd. worth the extra bucks or does the 35 f2 hold it's own optically? I know there are also size/weight differences and possibly some other factors. I tend to go for fast lenses and bokeh is important as well as sharpness. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I haven't used both lenses but I think the Limited lens appeal to a different public. The Limited appeals to people who wants nice craftmanship and finish in their lenses. Both are excellent optically. I suspect that the 31 has better bokeh because bokeh is a design parameter for the Limited lenses. If you want to save money and get a great lens the 35mm is the way to go. On the other hand, the 31 Limited is beautiful lens in all respects. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
Jim wrote: I've been reading lately about the MZ-S body and Limited lens line. Several reports have mentioned that Pentax has only released a black MZ-S in the US, but it's available in a black/silver version in Japan. The same with the Limited lenses...silver in the US and silver or black in Japan. I seem to have read the same thing about a black ZX-5 or 5n available in Japan and the MZ-3 was never even offered here. Was the MZ-3 offered in Japan? What is the rationale for this? My guess is that the rationale for this is that Pentax don't want people to match their Limited lenses with the MZ-S. What the rationale for *that* is anyones guess but mine is that Pentax want us to match our Limited lenses with something else. Another possibility is that Pentax marketing is totally without logic something that is a likely as any other interpretation. I know that Pentax in some markets are working on getting the chrome MZ-S. Also, parts for black Limited lenses are available in Europe suggesting that Pentax do indeed plan to distribute them to Europe at some stage. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT film question: difference between USA and Imported
Recently I have decided that 50% discount at Adorama is worth the risk and tried it. found no difference whatsoever. Namely, for Kodak Portra 100 and 400, and Fuji Provia 100F. But than again, I found that Agfa RSXII expired almost a year ago is perfectly OK. Mishka From: Gaurav Aggarwal Subject: OT film question: difference between USA and Imported Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 02:55:07 -0700 BH lists two different types of film for most of the brand/specification. One is marked USA and another Imported. The price difference is quite a lot, especially for print films. Are the imported films markedly more inferior to the ones made in the USA? Or it doesn't really matter and would effect only those extremely finicky. Thanks! Gaurav LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
B+H weird shipping charges
Hi all, Just out of curiosity I had a look at the FA*400/5.6 on B+H. I clicked on the shipping info and got two quotes; one for the UK and one for NZ. To have it shipped across the pond to the UK is $72.50, or to send it all the way to NZ costs $70.75. Both via Fedex Priority. That's just a little bit confusing. VAT/GST and duties are not included as they work out to more than the shipping cost. Something else that suprised me is that the A-400/5.6 is still available, and is about $200 more expensive than the FA. I hope I can find the FA lens at a good price in London, then I can just throw it in my luggage. My dream is to find both this lens and the FA*200/2.8 together secondhand at a price I can afford :) Cheers, - Dave in sunny Bognor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AA battery types
Taka, you seem to have the same digicam as mine. The Minolta D7. It's a power hog. I'm using the Rayovac myself, and find them quite good. I've relegated my 1500 RS batts for the duty of powering the flash. Since my remotes and Palm can run for months on 2 batts, I usually keep a stack of cheap AAA alkalines on hand. Last deal was for 16 Maxell AAA's for $7 CDN. For carrying my AA's, I bought cheap RS 4 AA holders. I drilled out the rivets holding the contacts, and marked one end with a + sign. When they are charged, I slip them in with the tip towards the + sign. When depleted, they go in reversed. Jeff - Original Message - From: TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: RE: AA battery types I'm using pretty much only the Energizer high output 1700mAH and Ray-O-Vac 1600 mAH NiMH rechargeables. My digicam eats through batteries so quickly that it's not cost-effective to use anything else and I figure I may as well use the same for my motor drive, flash and other stuff that need AAs and need juice- remote controls for the TV don't count. Otherwise, if I were using disposable batteries, I'd use Energizer Lithium cells for the flash and digicam, probably as well for the motor drive. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advice Needed For Student
On Sunday, May 12, 2002, at 11:33 AM, William Robb wrote: Think simple, elegant and reliable. I don't think the K1000 gets the respect it deserves. It has all the features one needs for photography, in a simple, clean, well laid out body. It would be nice if it had direct DOF preview, rather than having to goof the camera to get it. ...think of the Pentax 67...it's laid out almost the same, but with DOF preview and MLU... -Brother Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 31mm Ltd. vs. FA 35 f2
Pål , How does the 31 Limited compare to the 30 f2.8 K? I recently got one and use it exclusively the past weekend and the results are phenomenal! Of course, I can only compare it to the 28 35 f3.5s. Regards, Bob - Original Message - From: Pål Audun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: Re: 31mm Ltd. vs. FA 35 f2 Jim wrote: Does anyone have experience with both lenses? Is the 31 Ltd. worth the extra bucks or does the 35 f2 hold it's own optically? I know there are also size/weight differences and possibly some other factors. I tend to go for fast lenses and bokeh is important as well as sharpness. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I haven't used both lenses but I think the Limited lens appeal to a different public. The Limited appeals to people who wants nice craftmanship and finish in their lenses. Both are excellent optically. I suspect that the 31 has better bokeh because bokeh is a design parameter for the Limited lenses. If you want to save money and get a great lens the 35mm is the way to go. On the other hand, the 31 Limited is beautiful lens in all respects. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advice Needed For Student
On Sunday, May 12, 2002, at 12:52 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: How about a brick of some decent film instead of another lens? I totally second this. Or a gift certificate for processing printing at a local lab, or for darkroom time at a rental place. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A*85/1.4 - one for $1,100+, one for $438
All because the seller restricted his market to Germany. Tell me why he did this? Might just be eBay Germany's default setting. 90% of auctions I've been interested in have said Will ship to USA only, but of the couple of dozen I've asked, only one said that they would NOT ship to Canada, the rest didn't even understand why I was asking. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
Pål , As I was reading you post, it occurred to me that way back in the early days when the oceans were forming, Pentax introduced the SMC Takumars with provisions for open aperture metering etc. Long before the ES and Spotmatic F. Hm... Bob - Original Message - From: Pål Audun Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Lens and body color options Jim wrote: I've been reading lately about the MZ-S body and Limited lens line. Several reports have mentioned that Pentax has only released a black MZ-S in the US, but it's available in a black/silver version in Japan. The same with the Limited lenses...silver in the US and silver or black in Japan. I seem to have read the same thing about a black ZX-5 or 5n available in Japan and the MZ-3 was never even offered here. Was the MZ-3 offered in Japan? What is the rationale for this? My guess is that the rationale for this is that Pentax don't want people to match their Limited lenses with the MZ-S. What the rationale for *that* is anyones guess but mine is that Pentax want us to match our Limited lenses with something else. Another possibility is that Pentax marketing is totally without logic something that is a likely as any other interpretation. I know that Pentax in some markets are working on getting the chrome MZ-S. Also, parts for black Limited lenses are available in Europe suggesting that Pentax do indeed plan to distribute them to Europe at some stage. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Heathkit Enlarging meter
Hi List, As I was fumbling in the darkroom with an poor negative, I longed for my old Heathkit Fotovol meter. I have started checking ebay looking for one. In a nut shell, it was a real meter with a cds probe. It was supplied with several meter scales and blanks. I had calibrated one blank with a step wedge and used it for negative reading including testing. It sure beats my current method. Does anyone have one or know of a suitable replacement? Regards, Bob Rapp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: B+H weird shipping charges
David, Fly home thru New York City... Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope I can find the FA lens at a good price in London, then I can just throw it in my luggage. My dream is to find both this lens and the FA*200/2.8 together secondhand at a price I can afford :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What the papers say...
Graywolf wrote: Wow! They are selling more $850 digitals than $6 disposables. Who would have figured? Or, is that liar's do figure? Now, if they said the digital is more of a yuppy status symbol than an SLR, I would have no problem with that. Hi Tom, Interesting question -- I wonder about that myself. (Yeah, I know you were being facetious, but you bring up a good point worth serious consideration.) I'm thinking in terms of US dollars and the US market here, but it probably applies in other markets and currencies as well. With so many decent PS digital cameras now in the $400-to-$600 range, it wouldn't surprise me if consumers are buying more digitals than they are buying $300-to-$450 conventional SLR packages. And I'll bet that's more in terms of actual number of cameras sold, rather than just more in terms of sales dollars. Is it possible that total sales ~dollars~ spent per year on digital cameras now exceeds total sales ~dollars~ spent per year on disposable film cameras? Hmmm I don't know about that one -- it might very well be getting ~near~ that point. Perhaps it's even exceeding that point in some markets. After all, you'd have to sell only one $600 digital to equal the sales volume of 100 $6 disposables. However, I (like you) would really be amazed if the actual ~number~ of digital cameras sold per year now exceeds the ~number~ of disposable film cameras sold per year. I just can't see that ever happening, for the simple reason that a consumer of a disposable camera -- by definition -- throws the camera away when he/she is done using it, but the consumer of a digital camera presumably buys a camera once and only once. (Or maybe once every few years.) Eventually, you would think that the market for digital cameras would reach saturation, and sales would level off to a steady -- and quite possibly very low -- value. I don't think the corporate behemoths -- Kodak, HP, Olympus, etc. -- will ever make a decent profit selling digital cameras. I think they'll continue to willingly succumb to price erosion in order to meet their sales growth targets, and they'll exit the camera manufacturing business once the market reaches saturation. The real profits in digital, I believe, will be in ink and paper -- just as the real profits in conventional silver halide photography have been in film. And as long as there is a large consumer segment for which even a $50 digicam is out of reach, I think there will continue to be a profitable market for disposable film cameras for a long time to come. Which hopefully means a supply of reasonably inexpensive conventional film for a long time to come. I hope ;-) Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AA battery types
At 09:02 PM 5/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: Speaking of AAs, what do you all use to carry spare AAs, esp. if they're rechargeables and thus out of the box? Taka I carry them in zip-lock sandwich bags. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AA battery types
I missed the first part of this thread... Is it OK to use NMH rechargeables in battery grips? I'm thinking of the Mz-S. I thought that using other than alkaline or lithium could toast the electronics, I'd be delighted if I was wrong. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AA battery types
Is it OK to use NMH rechargeables in battery grips? I'm thinking of the Mz-S. I thought that using other than alkaline or lithium could toast the electronics, I'd be delighted if I was wrong. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Disposable Lithium AA's have higher current than Ni-MH's, so I don't see any problem where the manufacturer recommends the Lithiums. Jeff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: B+H weird shipping charges
In a message dated 14/05/02 12:52:35 GMT Daylight Time, Dave writes: hope I can find the FA lens at a good price in London, then I can just throw it in my luggage. My dream is to find both this lens and the FA*200/2.8 together secondhand at a price I can afford :) Be careful - you are going to end up with more weight on the return leg than you shipped in with...hehehe Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
On 13 May 2002 at 22:22, Jim Jackie Meeks wrote: I've been reading lately about the MZ-S body and Limited lens line. Several reports have mentioned that Pentax has only released a black MZ-S in the US, but it's available in a black/silver version in Japan. The same with the Limited lenses...silver in the US and silver or black in Japan. I seem to have read the same thing about a black ZX-5 or 5n available in Japan and the MZ-3 was never even offered here. Was the MZ-3 offered in Japan? What is the rationale for this? The MZ-3 was available in Japan (may still be) and Germany at least. Who knows why the Silver MZ-S or Black limited lenses aren't available outside Japan it makes little sense to me or anyone else that I've spoken with about it. Typical Pentax marketing genius I guess? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advice Needed For Student
In a message dated 5/14/2002 6:47:18 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...think of the Pentax 67...it's laid out almost the same, but with DOF preview and MLU... ...with an additional bonus - at the end of a long day, my 67 weighs approximately the same as a Honda Civic. Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed For Student
Bill you obviously feel strongly about this. Can you learn better with a 50mm? Maybe. I don't see why? Maybe the argument is that you can learn to see better with a prime lens rather than a zoom. I'm not sure about that either. I know the old school of thought certainly pushes this concept. But things have changed. I think the best way to study light is to use your eyes. You don't even need a camera or a lens. It's not worth worrying about. Some Students will benefit from the simplicity of a 50 mm lens. Others will flourish with the versatility of a zoom lens. There's no easy answers here. Vic In a message dated 5/14/02 1:07:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The whole friggin point isn't about whether the zoom is a better compositional tool or not. It's not about composition at all. It's about learning how to see what light does when it hits an object, how that gets translated into an image. This is best learned with a 50mm lens (if we are using the 35mm format as an example). It matches (more or less) the field of view of the human eye, and consequently, produces a picture with a perspective we can immediately relate to. The idea is to learn one thing at a time, and learn it well. First, learn what light does, that controls everything else. Composition is secondary to this, as compositional needs will change depending on the angle of light hitting the object. Not my fault a bunch of idiots think this is bullshit. People that have this figured out are better photographers. Look back at the subject line. The word Student should say something about where I am coming from. You can learn what I am talking about with any lens, it doesn't matter if you use a zoom, or a friggin fisheye. You will learn it faster, and better with a standard focal length prime lens, one that doesn't allow you to cheat, just because you want the instant gratification of easy composition. Some of this stuff is work. Now, back to my rock. Thanks Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
Other possibilities: Most likely the limited lenses are made in small batches. Originally the lenses were made to match the silver MZ-5/MZ-3 series, which sold in large quantities. As the MZ-S is more 'pro' it was launched in black. What should Pentax do with the stock of silver limited lenses left? I'm sure Pentax is not making a lot of money on the limited lenses. They are sold in small quantities and need exceptional attention to quality. It is really not easy. The rising prices of the limited lenses as they emerge reflects this 437731 Nevertheless I'm keenly waiting for the 'FA 17/2.8 AL limited' to hit the market. I recon it will cost between 1500 to 2000 ($ or Euro). But it will be worth it! Knut At 13:01 14.05.02 +0200, you wrote: Jim wrote: I've been reading lately about the MZ-S body and Limited lens line. Several reports have mentioned that Pentax has only released a black MZ-S in the US, but it's available in a black/silver version in Japan. The same with the Limited lenses...silver in the US and silver or black in Japan. I seem to have read the same thing about a black ZX-5 or 5n available in Japan and the MZ-3 was never even offered here. Was the MZ-3 offered in Japan? What is the rationale for this? My guess is that the rationale for this is that Pentax don't want people to match their Limited lenses with the MZ-S. What the rationale for *that* is anyones guess but mine is that Pentax want us to match our Limited lenses with something else. Another possibility is that Pentax marketing is totally without logic something that is a likely as any other interpretation. I know that Pentax in some markets are working on getting the chrome MZ-S. Also, parts for black Limited lenses are available in Europe suggesting that Pentax do indeed plan to distribute them to Europe at some stage. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mint 6x7 on ebay, act quick (BIN)
On Mon, 13 May 2002, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: Mint 6x7 + prism BIN $650. Damnit, I spent the last three days driving to, staying in, then driving back from Virginia, with no computer. Oh well, its probably better that way, as I don't REALLY have money to spend now that my ringbuyer bailed on me. :) Hey, anyone wanna trade a diamond ring for a 67? :) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
screwdriver / tools for repair
Hi, I'm trying to remove the mount on one of my lenses. The small philips screwdriver I have doesn't seem to fit. Anyone know where I can find the correct screwdriver. BTW. the screws seen incredibly tight, loctite? anyone know what other tools I might need for getting at the diaphragm? bye, Frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AA battery types
Mark, you asked: Is it OK to use NMH rechargeables in battery grips? Taken from a review of the MZ-S at the following site: http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/pentax_mzs_pg3.html ...Since the BG-10 is a battery pack, let's talk about the batteries for a moment. It allows you to use the common AA type of alkaline or NiMH rechargeable cells instead of the two CR-2 lithium cells in the camera... Perhaps more importantly, an early morning phone call to Pentax tech support has confirmed these claims. In short, I'm excited. Quite possibly one less recurring expense to deal with. jerome - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Mint 6x7 on ebay, act quick (BIN)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of gfen Damnit, I spent the last three days driving to, staying in, then driving back from Virginia, with no computer. Well, if you'd stopped to say 'hello' you could have used mine. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed For Student
This thread made me recall a couple of things I heard over the years. One was the book by cancer survivor and Tour de France winner, Lance Armstrong, It's Not About The Bike. The other was from a cattleman's field day many years ago in Greeley, Colorado. The subject was quality in beef cattle. Someone asked if there was any particular breed of cattle that had more quality. One buyer replied that cattle came in many different colors, but green money has a certain quality about it. You can make money with any kind of cattle, he concluded. Now, to paraphrase Lance Armstrong, it's not about the lens. You can make pictures with any kind of lens, or camera, or film. And as the cattle buyer said, pictures have a certain quality about them and you can make pictures with any kind of equipment. What seperates Ansel Adams from the rest of us was his ability to see...to visualize. I think you could give Ansel Adams any combination of camera, film and processing chemicals and he would come up with an Ansel Adams picture. It was Adam's ability to take an ordinary scene and turn it into a work of art that made him special not his equipment. I still stand by the old axiom that photography is simple...the only difficult part is keeping it simple. The only important thing for a photographer to learn is how to paint with light and to reproduce what he sees in his mind. Ken On Tuesday 14 May 2002 01:05 am, William Robb wrote: The whole friggin point isn't about whether the zoom is a better compositional tool or not. It's not about composition at all. It's about learning how to see what light does when it hits an object, how that gets translated into an image. This is best learned with a 50mm lens (if we are using the 35mm format as an example). It matches (more or less) the field of view of the human eye, and consequently, produces a picture with a perspective we can immediately relate to. -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FD-1 eyepiece, uses?
I just bought one and intend to use it for ultra macro subjects (2x). Thanks to Bruce Dayton I just got an Auto bellow A and I believe the FD1 will be perfect for this application. I'll let you know about the eyeglass thing when I try it out. Christian. On Monday 13 May 2002 21:34, Brendan MacRae wrote: Who uses this eyepiece with the FB-1 and to what advantage? I use mine from time to time with long lenses on a tripod for better eye relief. Does anyone with bad eyes use it successfully without their specs? Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
I just found the response I got from the Japan headquarters when I asked them directly last autumn. I think they are really doing their best. If we are interested in the limited lenses (and buy more), the variety will increase (in numbers of different limited lenses available, as well as in colour variations). I guess the black batch was a market test in Japan. I'm not even sure if Pentax is still producing black lenses. Most likely they are just selling off the batch they produced in the past. That explains why they do not offer black limiteds to the world market. Lenses -like books- are produced in batches. A*lenses for example apparently are no longer produced for some years now, nevertheless last stocks are (still) available (A 15/3.5, A 16 fish-eye, A 50/1.2). To keep the black limited lenses on the shelves in Japan for a reasonable long time [to prevent consumers from getting disgrunted] they have to stretch their stock. The quantity of black lenses produced are probably enough to last in Japan for a few years, but would probably have gone within a few weeks if offered world wide. They have to be sure that it is worth setting up a new production batch of black limited lenses. Subject: RE: 43mm 77mm in Black Thank you for your contacting us again. However, we have to send you the same answer. We do not have plan to launch the black colour model for overseas market. We appreciate your suggestion. But we can not afford to do so. To launch a product, there is quantity requirement to run production at factory. In case of 43mm 77mm, it is very difficult to satisfy the condition. Small production would cost us a lot and eventually it will affect retail price, which consumer will not accept. Unfortunately the total production volume for these lenses (Silver and Black) is not so big. Therefore we decided to concentrate to Silver model. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Mint 6x7 on ebay, act quick (BIN)
On Tue, 14 May 2002, tom wrote: Well, if you'd stopped to say 'hello' you could have used mine. I didn't even think of what PDML'rs might be down there. I actually went with a friend of mine who didn't know the other group of computer people I went to meet, so he was already a bit lost and confused. Its a nice place, but truthfully, I'm just as happy with the Jersey shore since I don't go into the ocean or even really spend any time on the beach. Can't wait to go back and visit, though, and actually spend a bit more time doing photo stuff than I did. I would've loved to see some of the US Navy end of things, but we skipped figuring that picture taking was either not allowed or very frowned on these days.. -g. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AA battery types
Jeff, Nothing as fancy- I use an Olympus C-2040. Thanks for the RS tip- I'll look for those holders. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
For people who really want a black limited to match their black MZ-S, the 'leak' out of Japan via our friend in Brighton is a possibility: http://www.camera-direct.com/other.asp The more lenses leak, the more Pentax might feel that there really is a market. Just -got an FA 77 in black. It is not a beauty -like the silver ones- but very unintrusive. As small as a 50mm lens of other makers. Ideal for clandestine people and portrait photography. Knut - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tiffen
Folks We have rather too many Tiffen filters here - all 'new' boxed - sizes 49,-67, plus 82. I have been flogging them on ebay but frankly the listing is a chore I can do without. any 49- 55 inclusive single $4, twinpack $8 any 58-67 inclusive single $6, twinpack $10 any 82 single $10 Postage will be at cost - don't ask which I have got - I have only managed to sort them into sizes presently Just mail me (off-list) a list of those you are after - reply might be a few days (busy) Payment by Master/Visa/Switch/The Roman Catholic Way/GB£ cheque. GBP1=US$1.50 for those in UK Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
While everyone is guessing at the nature of Pentax head office thinking, I'll add my wild speculation. I figure that the rest-of-the-world availability of body and lens finishes is driven by what's hot and what's not in Japan. Limited lenses were all chrome in the beginning so the early adopters in Japan had their kit of chrome Limiteds which they could only match to a mid-line MZ series camera or a very spendy limited edition chrome LX, until the MZ-S appeared. Now they are gobbling up all the chrome MZ-S bodies Pentax can make, with nothing to spare for export. When the black Limiteds appeared the home market once again has demanded as many as the factory can churn out to satisfy the Japanese buyers who prefer the classic black lens of the '60s, '70s, '80s and '90s, rather than the all chrome look of the '50s and before. The rest-of -the-world will get its chance to buy a chrome MZ-S or a black Limited when Japan has had its fill of them. IM(highly speculative)O. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) Who knows why the Silver MZ-S or Black limited lenses aren't available outside Japan it makes little sense to me or anyone else that I've spoken with about it. Typical Pentax marketing genius I guess? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina 150-500 f5.6 ATX
Hello To All, Here are my thoughts on my new lens. Of course it's built like a tank which is normal for Tokina 's ATX line. I was surprised that it has a built in lens hood! Very Nice indeed. I finally got a chance to do some testing of it's optical performance. I would say that wide open at 500mm, it's not as sharp as my Tokina 100-300 f4 ATX lens at 300mm f4, but if you stop it down to f8 it's alot better and f11 is very sharp. So, I'm quite pleased with it and it's not as heavy as I expected it to be. It's ONLY 4.8 pounds, that's all. But seriously, it balances quite well with my PZ1p. It's one of the largest/longest telephoto zooms you can still handhold with faster films. So, bottom line, I'm quite happy with it, It's no Pentax 600mm 5.6, but then again, I didn't empty all the bank accounts either to buy it. A Felow Pentaxian, Ryan LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 31mm Ltd. vs. FA 35 f2
Based on Popular Photography tests, they are comparably sharp except wide open, where the 31 is definitely better. As Pål mentioned, there are other factors to consider, such as bokeh and overall quality. I have the 31 and am very pleased with it. BTW, the 31 is actually a 32 while the 35 is really a 34. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG - Definition of Portrait?
I vaguely remember a discussion on this a while ago, but I do not recall the outcome. Is there any formal definition of Portrait in terms of the PUG? Is it specifically related to breathing beings (people, animals)? Can a still life be defined as a portrait? Flowers/plants? Looking for something to scan b4 next monday dk = Wishing I was playing with my Pentax : PZ-1 MZ-10 Dave Kennedy Arnprior, Ont. Canada. LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Quasi OT: An incredible experience plus photography
Those probably were africanized bees. A bee-scientist from USDA gave a lecture on the africanized bees at my university two years ago. Basically, just about all bees south of the Mason-Dixon line are africanized. Because the bees are from a hot climate, they don't need to stockpile honey for the winter. This means a lower yeild for beekeepers and no Africanized bees in colder parts of the US. Africanized bees are more disease resistant. I can't remember the name of it, but according to the USDA guy, almost all bees in the US had been wiped out by a bee-disease. The Africanized bees, still the same species of bee, were not affected. What's really interesting is that our normal honey bees, African bees, and European bees are all the same species of bee. What is perceived as African bees taking over from docile honey bees is really African bee genes moving through an existing bee population. Africanized bees are more aggressive, but like a lot of animals they only get that way when harrassed. I spent two hot semesters playing tennis in deep South Texas, sharing the courts with a colony of bees. Nobody was stung. Lecture over. Class dismissed. Joe Tainter, send up some of those bee shots when you can. That was a great opportunity to watch a colony in action. LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Oh crap. I forgot the PUG deadline is nearly here and I meant to shoot something for this one. I guess I'll dig out a golden oldie. I don't think there's a formal definition and you know the Pugsters they will surprise you every time. Evan Dave Kennedy wrote: I vaguely remember a discussion on this a while ago, but I do not recall the outcome. Is there any formal definition of Portrait in terms of the PUG? Is it specifically related to breathing beings (people, animals)? Can a still life be defined as a portrait? Flowers/plants? Looking for something to scan b4 next monday dk = Wishing I was playing with my Pentax : PZ-1 MZ-10 Dave Kennedy Arnprior, Ont. Canada. LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com -- -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
Speaking of Pentax marketing, I just received an email from Pentax Japan (International Sales Division of Pentax in Japan) about some replacement screws for my Pentax glasses. Since there is no email address listed on the Pentax Japan web site, I could give you the email address if anyone was interested. Or I might just post it here if you guys think this was a good idea. Perhaps someone might ask the reason for their marketing decision too and report back to us. :) regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Hi, I'm afraid it leaves out all of the materialists and monists among us too, Jostein. Ain't got no soul. g --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, May 14, 2002, 7:47:33 PM, you wrote: The Norwegian Museum of Photography opened a portraits exhibition on May 5th. Featuring 25 Arnold Newman portraits, among many others. Leif Preus, the founder of the museum and himself a good photographer, defined portraits this way in his opening speech: A portrait is the result of a cooperation between two persons on each side of a camera. The result should be an image that goes beyond the mere description of skin and eyes to capture the pictured person's soul. If that is to be followed, it leaves me out all together, I think. Most of my portraits are candids of people and animals. Or animals that are very well aware of my presence and _pretend_ to ignore me... On my way out from the exhibition, I bought Frans Lanting's book Eye to Eye. Fascinating book, but I still can't decide if his animal pictures are portraits in Leif Preus' definition. On one hand, it's a long shot to claim to know something about the soul of any beast. On the other hand, Lanting's technique is often to study and mimick animal behavoiur so carefully that he can make the animals cooperate by simply ignoring his presence and go on with their normal business. Jostein http://oksne.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Well, as always your right, Bad in appearance but good for sending a message and portraying some insite about the person. Actually they do make good portraits after all. --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad? In what sense. Would you not say that a mug shot captures more than just a likeness of the person? It puts him or her into a context, reflects something or some things about their character and personality, and perhaps provides a little insight into their soul and psyche. Isn't that what a good portrait is supposed to do? Brendan wrote: Apparantly yes it is, just a very bad one. --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then is a police mug shot a portrait? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Frankly, I think a portrait goes a little deeper than that. Elliott Erwitt's famous portrait of Pablo Casals, taken without the maestro present, is an example that comes to mind. In this photograph there is no likeness of Casals, yet by photographing his cello and bow, resting on a chair in the room in which Casals often played, and by taking full advantage of light and shadow, we are able to see and feel the context in which Casals exists, and thereby get some sense of the man. Is this any less of a portrait than a head-and-shoulders shot of the great cellist. The point of a portrait is, I think, to show us something about the person, to reach beyond a reproduction of a face or form, and allow the viewer to get some sense of the subject. The famous photo of a Texas death row inmate's hands through the bars of his cell reflects more about the man behind the bars, his environment and condition, than might have been captured with a more traditional portrait. Does one really need to see a likeness of a person in order to know something about that person? Cotty wrote: FWIW, my Pocket Oxford Dictionary describes 'portrait' as: 'painted, drawn, or photographic likeness of person or animal...' -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ When a man's best friend is his dog, that dog has a problem. --Edward Abbey - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT film question: difference between USA and Imported
USA comes from the US distributer, IMPORTED comes from whoever. Often the imported film is made in the US shipped overseas and reimported back (go figure how it can be cheaper). Sometimes imported is out of the box sometimes it has forgien language instructions. Seldom is there any difference in quality. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:09 AM Subject: OT film question: difference between USA and Imported BH lists two different types of film for most of the brand/specification. One is marked USA and another Imported. The price difference is quite a lot, especially for print films. Are the imported films markedly more inferior to the ones made in the USA? Or it doesn't really matter and would effect only those extremely finicky. Thanks! Gaurav - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: What the papers say...
Bob Walken wrote: the article in question was specifically about volume rather than dollars, pounds, euros or yen. In fairness to the writer, who is a respectable journalist and unlikely to be lying, he did make an exception of disposable film cameras, which I didn't mention in my original post, which was meant to be more about the mention of Pentax as the canonical (!?) slr, and the writer's false dichotomy between film slrs and digital point and shoots. Hi Bob, Thanks for the clarification on that. If the writer is excluding disposable film cameras from his statistics, then the numbers sound quite plausible. If it comes down to a choice between looking swish or carrying a Pentax SLR, I'd just as soon skip the swish look, thank you very much. ;-) Sounds like a look that might get a person mugged! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Here we go again. I hope that nobody starts discussing what makes a portrait professional somewhere along the line or this thread will never end. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Robert Harris wrote: Here we go again. I hope that nobody starts discussing what makes a portrait professional somewhere along the line or this thread will never end. That's easy. It's the camera. ;) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
an abused MX
Just take a look at that 'beauty'! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1352872804 £ukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
- Original Message - From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm afraid it leaves out all of the materialists and monists among us too, Jostein. Ain't got no soul. g um... Which side of the camera were you thinking of...:-) gee... I figured I would get a paw from the cat lovers on the list for my comment about animals and portraits, but there you go. Jostein - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Lens and body color options
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Chan Perhaps someone might ask the reason for their marketing decision too and report back to us. :) As I understand it, Pentax USA decides what will be imported to the US, and this is the case in other countries as well (the local distributor decides what to distribute). Apparently they didn't think they'd sell any black limiteds or silver MZ-S's when they were introduced. I wouldn't be surprised to see black limiteds and/or he US in the not too distant future. In the meantime, just buy them from Sunny Brighton. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jostein gee... I figured I would get a paw from the cat lovers on the list for my comment about animals and portraits, but there you go. We're laying low till this portrait thread blows over. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
I vaguely remember a discussion on this a while ago, but I do not recall the outcome. Is there any formal definition of Portrait in terms of the PUG? Is it specifically related to breathing beings (people, animals)? Can a still life be defined as a portrait? Flowers/plants? If the flower smiles at you, yes. Cheers, Andre -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Lens and body color options
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom I wouldn't be surprised to see black limiteds and/or he US in the not too distant future. In the meantime, just buy them from Sunny Brighton. Should read I wouldn't be surprised to see black limiteds and/or silver MZ-S's in the US in the not too distant future. In the meantime, just buy them from Sunny Brighton. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[4]: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Hi, um... Which side of the camera were you thinking of...:-) no souls either side of it! --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, May 14, 2002, 9:41:04 PM, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm afraid it leaves out all of the materialists and monists among us too, Jostein. Ain't got no soul. g um... Which side of the camera were you thinking of...:-) gee... I figured I would get a paw from the cat lovers on the list for my comment about animals and portraits, but there you go. Jostein - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: an abused MX
On Tue, 14 May 2002, [iso-8859-2] £ukasz Kacperczyk wrote: Just take a look at that 'beauty'! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1352872804 Thats Damn Ugly! How about a KX belt buckle instead? lol http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1352909249 Now I have seen everything. - Chris -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina 150-500 f5.6 ATX
Hi, Sorry, the only lens I can compare it to is my Tokina 300mm zoom. Ryan Have you had a chance to compare it to the Sigma 50-500 which seems to get good marks? -Ryan LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
P-TTL in metered manual mode with MZ-S and 360FGZ
I downloaded the MZ-S and 360FGZ manuals from the Pentax site, and have been reading through them trying to decide if I really need one. ;) Anyway, I have a question. It appears as though the manual for the flash is saying that p-ttl mode cannot be used if the camera is in metered manual mode. Is this true? Can someone please verify this for me? Thanks. -- Nick Wright http://www.wrightfoto.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advice Needed For Student
Builds those muscles, and gives students that all important stamina... g -frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/14/2002 6:47:18 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...think of the Pentax 67...it's laid out almost the same, but with DOF preview and MLU... ...with an additional bonus - at the end of a long day, my 67 weighs approximately the same as a Honda Civic. Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Newman and Sieff Books (was: Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?)
The Norwegian Museum of Photography opened a portraits exhibition on May 5th. Featuring 25 Arnold Newman portraits, among many others. Jostein, cool! I just bought my second Arnold Newman book, entitled appropriately enough: 'Arnold Newman' by Taschen, 2000 (ISBN 3-8228-7193-1), a HUGE book with 274 pages of lovely monochrome and colour reproduction. It features a complete retrospective of his work from across the years. One of my heroes. I'd love to go to an exhibition of his. As an aside, my SO went to Paris on the train with a girlfriend for 4 days (well, you have to let them out now and again...) and she brought me a fantastic present. I knew that my all time greatest photo-hero, Jeanloup Sieff (pronounced Seff, short 'a') had a book out (posthumously, he sadly died in 1999), but it hasn't been translated into English, and so is only available in France. I didn't ask my SO to look for it, because she was there to do galleries and les musees, so I thought it unfair to have her trudging about looking for something she might not find. Alas, my luck was in: on her return, she presented me with a brand new copy! Called 'Faites Comme si Je n'Etais pas La' (trans: 'Make as if I'm not here' - M. Sieff's favourite assurance to sitters), it is a lovely retrospective, complete with recounts by the author on his encounters with many and varied sitters over the years. Highly recommended. ISBN 2-7324-2518-4 by Editions de La Martiniere (2000). Amazon France have it: http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2732425184/qid%3D1010360395/171-67256 80-9621052 Meanwhile, hopefully it will make it to other languages. His work is brilliant. Best, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Then is a police mug shot a portrait? Of course. ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Does one really need to see a likeness of a person in order to know something about that person? I don't believe so. Your recounting of the cellist scenario illustrates this point well. However, to be pedantic, the definition (in internationally accepted terms) is as previously stated. It's how we each individually (and also as a group) interpret that definition that forms our opinions in the manner that we do. A photograph of a bow and a cello may well be described as a portrait, and there will be those that understand this, and those that don't. A traditionalist will perhaps challenge the example, offering only that there is no person present in the image, and so (by accepted standard definition) cannot be a portrait. Those of us with perhaps a wider, lateral rather than literal expectation of the definition (in fact *any* definition) will interpret accordingly, and react accordingly. IMO, there is no right and no wrong human interpretation of what a portrait is, or is not. There is only an internationally accepted lingual standard that happens to say that the likeness of a person or animal needs to be present in the image for it to be called a portrait. It's all a load of bollocks anyway. Rules are there to be broken. I tend to sit with the traditionalists, but like most people, I love the renegade. Doubtless we'll cheer the shot of the bow and the cello, if it appears, in any guise. As Frantisek often writes: 'Good light' Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
World Press Photo winning story on reportage.org
Hi, this year's winner of the World Press Photo award is online with the full story at www.reportage.org. There is an interesting editorial about it, and links to related stories, at http://www.reportage.org/2002/JalozaiRefner/PagesJalozai/afterthought.html Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: What the papers say...
On 14 May 2002 at 16:24, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Thanks for the clarification on that. If the writer is excluding disposable film cameras from his statistics, then the numbers sound quite plausible. If it comes down to a choice between looking swish or carrying a Pentax SLR, I'd just as soon skip the swish look, thank you very much. ;-) Sounds like a look that might get a person mugged! I was playing local tour guide to overseas visitors to Sydney last week and what I observed was that by far the majority of snaps being take by tourist were on digital cameras followed in popularity by video cam user and then a handful of SLR users (a good mix of old and new, saw a Super A in use at the zoo). So it's of no surprise to me, many of the smaller digicams were being worn by their owners slung on a neck cord or wrist strap. Fortunately your not likely to get mugged for a camera in Sydneys popular tourist areas. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina 150-500 f5.6 ATX
Is this the same lens as the one Photodo rates a 2? Or is this a newer version? - Original Message - From: Ryan Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Tokina 150-500 f5.6 ATX Hi, Sorry, the only lens I can compare it to is my Tokina 300mm zoom. Ryan Have you had a chance to compare it to the Sigma 50-500 which seems to get good marks? -Ryan LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 31mm Ltd. vs. FA 35 f2
On 14 May 2002 at 13:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that Yoshi prefers the 30/2.8K's optical performance to any Pentax 28 and can be found for about $250, I'd be hard-pressed to justify the extra hundreds of dollars that the 31 would cost. Except of course if you have failing eyesight and need AF or if you plan to use the new 31mm as your quasi-standard high speed lens? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait?
Chris Brogden wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2002, Robert Harris wrote: Here we go again. I hope that nobody starts discussing what makes a portrait professional somewhere along the line or this thread will never end. That's easy. It's the camera. But what makes the camera professional? Seems to me we never definitively resolved that. Or did we... :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody interested in getting the Pentax poster?
on 05/03/02 20:52, Eduardo shared with me: I would like one and I would gladly pay the extra shipping to get it unfolded. I too would enjoy having such a poster, Dario. Rolled, not folded. You would find it a lot less expensive to either have your printer pack and dropship the needed quantity to a US distributor, preferably a PDML member with easy acces to the time and facility to repack and reship the poster within North America. Alternatively, if your printer has any ties with a US of A or Canadian Print shop, the file could be sent here and printed here. If the finances balanced out, that is. If you'd send me your address, Dario, I would like to favor you (or the current treasurer) with a check for the renewal of my AOHC membership. I've moved twice in the past 24 months, and nothing is to be found. Except my cameras, of course! JoMac, Pentaxian Pentax, Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh and above the rest. k t, s e n Living life aw o almost parallel to, r yet ever so slightly o u t --- f Joseph McAllister 3810 - 36th Ave SW Seattle, WA 98126 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 31mm Ltd. vs. FA 35 f2
In a message dated 5/14/2002 9:57:18 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Based on Popular Photography tests, they are comparably sharp except wide open, where the 31 is definitely better. As Pål mentioned, there are other factors to consider, such as bokeh and overall quality. I have the 31 and am very pleased with it. BTW, the 31 is actually a 32 while the 35 is really a 34. Joe But as any real prime lens purist will tell you, they are still 2mm apart and therefore both are necessary. Sorry, couldn't resist. Ed Matthew - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Weekend happenings...
As usual.. you've caught some awesome images here Iva Sound Asleep is my fave and.. well.. dare I say it.. makes me long to have a little bundle of joy of my own... mind you it ain't the _ONLY_ reason to have a kid and shouldn't even be _A_ reason as far as I'm concerned :) but it does evoke a sense of peace and joy that only a child can bring to ones heart. Great work and congrats to you and the family !! You're forgiven for missing the Toronto PDML meeting (this time) :) Cheers, Dave Ya, I'm a sensitive guy; now get outa the way yer blocking the TV Chang-Sang -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Weekend happenings... On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, at 02:05 PM, tom wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds Congrats, Jasna and Iva is a great shot... Thanks! I'm glad I went home for the 67 before heading to the hospital. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Weekend happenings...
Very nice shots, Aaron! Hope you weren't banging around the delivery room with a tripod, although the pictures look sharp enough for one. That's the 800-speed film for you. Well done. Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: Send Mz-S to Repair
- Original Message - From: Emilio Puga Subject: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair I think nothing for a Malasian Company, you know how well they pay their people??¿¿. At the risk of offending (like that ever bothers me), this is a pretty specious statement. Here in North America, and I include Canada in this as well, and I expect the rest of the western world, there is a pretty vast number of people who are extraordinarily underpaid. I speak specifically of people in the retail and service sector. These are people who get worked the hardest, get to suffer the abuse of disgruntled people over situations they have little or no control over, and have little or no job security. Anyone who plays off one store against another, or goes to a mail order rather than a local business so they can save a few dollars is promoting this, and it spreads from the frontline person right back to the people who produce the raw materials to make whatever you are buying. If we practice this sort of sweatshop capitalism in the western world, why would you hold a higher standard for a developing nation as the CBC so cutely calls countries that don't have the economic advantages of North American or other Western nations. If we don't buy from countries like Malaysia, who are we really hurting? Are we hurting corpoations and their boards of directors or are we hurting the very workers whose plight we are sympathetic towards? If you are really concerned about the state of workers affairs in Malaysia, I suggest you would be better advised to buy the Malaysian made product, to help out the workers there as best you can now, and then lobby your government to put pressure on the Malaysian government to pass some worker protecion laws. Just remember, though, the reason Japanese companies go to developing countries for labour is because we want cheap products here in the west. We are the problem, not the Malaysian companies. William Robb -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de Lukasz Kacperczyk Enviado el: lunes, 13 de mayo de 2002 0:51 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair What's wrong with Malaysia? ;) Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Emilio Puga Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Send Mz-S to Repair Oh, god apologise me, don´t buy a MZ-S, BUY TWO OF EM. Well, I have to say you that mine was of the earlier series, new cameras don´t have this problems, and believe me it´s a GREAT CAMERA, yesterday I held a Dinax 7 and yes It looks like if it were designed by George Lucas, but doesn´t have the finish of my beloved pentax, and one detail, one of the first things I look when someone try to sell me a camera is to look at the bottom, and guess what I found on Dinax/Maxxum 7??¿¿ MADE IN MALASYA Now I understand those cheap plastics. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Weekend happenings...
Aaron your forgiven :-) Nice shots to btw! __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
