Re: Push Processing Film
How can you say that Wheatfield Willie is right? That C41 can't be pushed? I've just carried out a well controlled experiment and the results show unequivocally that it can be pushed quite nicely. Take a look. http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/index.htm Don Dr E D F Williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:36 AM Subject: Re: Push Processing Film > I found this, however, on the Kodak web site: > > > > "With longer development times, such as those used in push processing, EI > > values actually do increase, but only slightly. Underexpose a film by two > > stops and give it a two-stop push, and the real film speed will typically > > increase by perhaps a half stop. This means that the film is really > > underexposed by only 1 ½ stops, not two stops. But it is underexposed. " > > > Wheatfield Willie's been saying for some time that you can't push C-41. > I guess maybe he's right. Now I've definitively learned something. > > E-6 can be pushed. If you take an ISO 100 transparency film and push it > two stops, some people prefer 320, others 400. It also varies by film. I > guess the 320 would give better shadow detail, which is decreased in > pushing because contrast increases. > > Joe > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Push Processing Film
The reciprocity effect is only important for exposures of several minutes. For normal applications it can be ignored. When recording diffraction patterns on an optical bench for example, where exposures may be as long as fifteen minutes, the effect becomes serious. But in this case the film and illumination is not the same as that encountered in ordinary photography - and there are other factors. My recent experiment would indicate that a one stop push is a one stop push and a two stop push is two - for practical purposes. I don't have a densitometer - as I said before - and I cannot say with any certainty what the actual change in density and contrast was. I can only suggest that people take a look at the results: http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/index.htm Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 1:04 AM Subject: Re: Push Processing Film > on 07/23/02 13:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] shared with me: > > > In a message dated 7/23/2002 12:28:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > >> It's been mentioned before that 100 ISO film pushed 1 stop should be shot > >> at 320 ISO and that shooting it at 200 ISO is not a 1 stop push. How valid > >> > >> is this? > > > > A doubling of film speed is a one stop push. Rating ISO 100 film at ISO 200 > > is a one stop push, at ISO 400 it's a two stop push. This is the way I've > > always understood it. > > > > I found this, however, on the Kodak web site: > > > > "With longer development times, such as those used in push processing, EI > > values actually do increase, but only slightly. Underexpose a film by two > > stops and give it a two-stop push, and the real film speed will typically > > increase by perhaps a half stop. This means that the film is really > > underexposed by only 1 ½ stops, not two stops. But it is underexposed. " > > > > So, rating ISO 100 speed film at ISO 400 is only a 1 1/2 stop under exposure. > > Hummm > > Making an assumption, I'd say that the push processing of film is akin to > long exposures. The longer you expose a film, the longer you must actually > expose it to get the exposure you were aiming for. I don't remember the > phrase for this, but it means if you expose film x for one minute, to > achieve what any exposure chart will calculate for you, you must really > expose for 1.5 minutes. Other films will need other adjustments (is it > Reciprocity Failure?) based on their inherent exposure properties. Sometimes > wrongly confused with developer exhaustion. > > JoMac, Pentaxian >"Pentax, Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh" > >and above the rest. > k t, > s e n > Living life aw o > almost parallel to, r > yet ever so slightly o u t ---> f > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2929
Bob, Definately fiesta. However, Cotty would have to do without a fjord escort if I get drunk... (sorry too) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Bob Walkden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:51 AM Subject: Re[2]: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2929 > Hi, > > Monday, July 22, 2002, 10:56:36 PM, you wrote: > > > Understood. > > > Saturday the 10th I'm in Norway for a spot of fjording. I'm gonn get > > Jostein drunk and turn all the PUG shots upside down :-) > > it'll be a fjord fiesta then... > > > (sorry) > > --- > > Bob > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: We'll only need one zoom for all soon :-)
AF 50-500mm F4-6.3 APO EX RF HSM http://www.crkennedy.com.au/sigma_II/Introduction/Zoom/High_P_Zoom/50-500/50- 500body/50-500body.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Color printing
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Owens > > > My war department has been after me to try wet printing > color, especially > since I just got a Phillips PCS130 enlarger and the > matching PCS150 color > controller. You're married to a saint. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?
I just gave Pentax my .02 in an email, basically saying, do you have plans for a DSLR? Come on people, send them an email. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Rob Studdert wrote: This repetition is getting a little tedious (not the fault of the listers) Maybe it's time that we should consider harvesting Pentax email addresses from all over the world and start a mini avalanche of DSLR development queries via the members PDML and various other news groups? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 645NII
I'm looking for information of these two new lenses. Can you point me to some. Thanks - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Pentax 645NII Christien wrote: > Hi all, I'm currently looking to get one of these lovely creatures. > > Also my lense lists will include 75mm ,45mm, 200mm Lenses to go with it. > > Does anyone have any fields experience with this camera and lenses ? I've using the 645N for four years now. It's a great camera. I suggest you look into the two new zoom lenses: the 33-55 and the 55-110. I'm expecting my 33-55 by the end of the week. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Color printing
My war department has been after me to try wet printing color, especially since I just got a Phillips PCS130 enlarger and the matching PCS150 color controller. The paper I'm using came as a freebie with my Jobo Duolab, so I decided what the heck, I'll give it a try. I used a Tetenal RA-4 chemical kit and lo and behold, after 8 or 10 tries it started coming together. IMHO it's no harder to print color than B&W. Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Push Processing Film
I found this, however, on the Kodak web site: > > "With longer development times, such as those used in push processing, EI > values actually do increase, but only slightly. Underexpose a film by two > stops and give it a two-stop push, and the real film speed will typically > increase by perhaps a half stop. This means that the film is really > underexposed by only 1 ½ stops, not two stops. But it is underexposed. " > Wheatfield Willie's been saying for some time that you can't push C-41. I guess maybe he's right. Now I've definitively learned something. E-6 can be pushed. If you take an ISO 100 transparency film and push it two stops, some people prefer 320, others 400. It also varies by film. I guess the 320 would give better shadow detail, which is decreased in pushing because contrast increases. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Need a new digital camera, what now?
Pål Jensen wrote: > Pentax is working on a digital slr but nothing has leaked out about it's > specifications. The Pentax distributors expect it at Photokina. There has been > rumors posted on PDML that it will be released now in July but I have not been > able to get this confirmed by Pentax people. Quite the opposite in fact; nobody > is expecting anything major until Photokina in september. Rob Studdert wrote: This repetition is getting a little tedious (not the fault of the listers) Maybe it's time that we should consider harvesting Pentax email addresses from all over the world and start a mini avalanche of DSLR development queries via the members PDML and various other news groups? I agree...Pentax's complete lack of information regarding it's DSLR is fast becoming an intolerable situation. I'll also give them until Photokina, but that's as long as I'm prepared to wait. A great pity, I certainly don't want to change marques, but enough is enough. How they could stand idly by and let Sigma (for god's sake), and Fuji film (for god's sake), Canon and Nikon, all pass them as major players in the digital SLR stakes is beyond me. We need some direction now as to what the company is doing. I just wish they could put everyone out of their misery by admitting they won't be competing in the pro digital stakes or they give us some indication they will. The longer we wait, the more their credibility erodes. Regards, Max (Auckland NZ) EOM NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50/2.8 A, F, FA macros compared (was FS: AF400FTZ and FA 50/2.8)
On 23 Jul 2002 at 16:15, Fred wrote: > >> Collected comments (just 1, actually) on the 50/2.8 PKA, which > >> has a max. magnification of 1:2: O.U. Peterson: "All metal. > > > Wrong, its partly plastic, > > It does seem to me as if the aperture ring is probably plastic. > However, the aperture ring nonetheless seems to have a nicer feel > than the more obviously plasticky aperture ring on the A 50/1.7. My A50f2.8 Macro aperture ring is fabricated of metal, it has minute edge ware where shiny metal is readily visible. My A50f1.2 has a metal aperture ring and my SMCP-A50f1.4 and A50f1.7 both have plastic aperture rings. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50/2.8 A, F, FA macros compared (was FS: AF400FTZ and FA 50/2.8)
On 23 Jul 2002 at 18:27, Fred wrote: > The above quote sounds as if I had been the one being quoted. I > still have two A 50/2.8 Macros, and I have long since sold off the > two F 50/2.8's I tried (despite the fact that the F version seems to > be a sharper design and goes to 1:1). The A50f2.8 is a component of my regular Pentax kit, it is a sweet lens and particularly easy to focus for an f2.8 particularly when its image is projected onto an LX SE-60 focussing screen :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?
On 23 Jul 2002 at 23:27, Pål Jensen wrote: > Pentax is working on a digital slr but nothing has leaked out about it's > specifications. The Pentax distributors expect it at Photokina. There has been > rumors posted on PDML that it will be released now in July but I have not been > able to get this confirmed by Pentax people. Quite the opposite in fact; nobody > is expecting anything major until Photokina in september. This repetition is getting a little tedious (not the fault of the listers) Maybe it's time that we should consider harvesting Pentax email addresses from all over the world and start a mini avalanche of DSLR development queries via the members PDML and various other news groups? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
On 22 Jul 2002 at 19:07, Chris Niesmertelny wrote: > I guess for me I've found the perfect companion set up to the LX etc. Both kits > seem to complement each other, and there's sometimes clearly a "Bessa" > opportunity and a "Pentax" opportunity. I find I'm in much the same frame of mind, I have definite RF or SLR opportunities, I also now have the digital camera which if I have the room will accompany either and on occasion the 67. I'm resigned to the fact that there's no generic perfect camera just perfect cameras for select situations :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Z-10 opinions please
Magic! I don't know the Z-10, but he looked very eager to learn! It took me years of off/on photography to REALLY understand exposure, and I am still learning to a degree. I used to just set things as the camera told me, thinking only of shutter spped and not really knowing what I was doing. When I suddenly realised how different apertures could be used properly, and hyperfocal focussing in particular, photography suddenly came alive. I did half a GCSE in photography a couple of years ago, which reawakened me, and taught me about thirds, lines etc. Then I discovered the internet and read 'The art of outdoor photography' by Boyd Norton - this book really helped understand perspective and focal length effects and would be good when he has got to grips with things. I think an understanding of quality of light should be looked at from day one too. Do you want me to send you all his shots with the MZ-S for posterity? There are a couple on my gallery, but there are three which are a bit amusing too!!! > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 23 July 2002 21:27 > To: Pentax List > Subject: Z-10 opinions please > > > My son was very taken with the MZ-S at our recent meet at the > air show > near Cambridge, and who can blame him. He has shown a great > interest in > photography but at the age of 8 is finding the concept of > exposure > difficult. For now, I've decided that it would be > advantageous for him to > concentrate on things like concepts and composition rather than the > technicalities. I cam across a Z-10 and a couple of lenses, so have > bought it. > > I understand it's basically point and shoot. Any pointers, warnings, > anecdotes, regarding the Z-10 would be most welcomed. > > Thanks, > > Cotty > > ___ > Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Check out the UK Macintosh ads > http://www.macads.co.uk > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To > unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery > at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50/2.8 A, F, FA macros compared (was FS: AF400FTZ and FA 50/2.8)
> >> Collected comments (just 1, actually) on the 50/2.8 PKA, which > >> has a max. magnification of 1:2: O.U. Peterson: "All metal. > > > Wrong, its partly plastic, > > It does seem to me as if the aperture ring is probably plastic. > However, the aperture ring nonetheless seems to have a nicer feel > than the more obviously plasticky aperture ring on the A 50/1.7. > And the focus ring is plastic. > > but this lens has also a floating element ( am I the first to have > > noticed this ?) > > I hadn't noticed, but I don't really know how I would. Just what > did you see that allowed you to determine this, George? > > Fred I noticed a zoom lens like mechanism when looking in the lens from the back. And indeed, the second lens/group seen from the front does move as a function of the focus ring. George - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50/2.8 A, F, FA macros compared (was FS: AF400FTZ and FA 50/2.8)
>> Collected comments (just 1, actually) on the 50/2.8 PKA, which >> has a max. magnification of 1:2: O.U. Peterson: "All metal. > Wrong, its partly plastic, It does seem to me as if the aperture ring is probably plastic. However, the aperture ring nonetheless seems to have a nicer feel than the more obviously plasticky aperture ring on the A 50/1.7. > but this lens has also a floating element ( am I the first to have > noticed this ?) I hadn't noticed, but I don't really know how I would. Just what did you see that allowed you to determine this, George? Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 50/2.8 A, F, FA macros compared (was FS: AF400FTZ and FA 50/2.8)
> Collected comments (just 1, actually) on the 50/2.8 PKA, which has > a max. magnification of 1:2: [snip] Used prices are very high: > $300 to $350 mint. These sometimes go for less than $200 on eBay nowadays, generally in "minty" () condition. > Collected comments on the 50/2.8 F: Rated 4.9 out of 5.0 in Olle > Bjernulfs comprehensive web listing of lenses. "I have found each > of these to be superb: F 50/2.8 Macro (also, the A 50/2.8 is very > slightly less sharp, and only goes to 2:1, but I prefer it to the > F 50/2.8 anyhow." The above quote sounds as if I had been the one being quoted. I still have two A 50/2.8 Macros, and I have long since sold off the two F 50/2.8's I tried (despite the fact that the F version seems to be a sharper design and goes to 1:1). Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Push Processing Film
In a message dated 7/23/2002 2:54:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Seeing my signiture, you are probably not aware that the ½ symbol I see is > Alt-shift-P, a tall kinda pi thingy. What is it on your font? '1/2' or a > curly f (Ÿ) that preceeds "stop." > > JoMac, Pentaxian >"Pentax, Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh" > >and above the rest. > k t, > s e n > Living life aw o > almost parallel to, r > yet ever so slightly o u t ---> f > Hum? I cut and pasted that quote from Kodak. So, the symbol they used for "1/2" is their own. I don't know how to input this symbol using key strokes. I just use "one-front slash-two" to indicate one half. Is this what you're referring to? -Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
I'm back from my vacation!
I just got back from my trip to upstate NY. I had a great time at the balloon festival and at Letchworth State Park. I think I shot six rolls of 35mm and 2 rolls of 120mm in the Yashicamat. At Letchworth I carried 20 lbs of gear around for most of the afternoon, up and down stairs, and I have the muscles to prove it! I got pix of all three waterfalls. I also spent a morning shooting in the inlaws' garden. All around, a great trip and good shooting. Now I just have to get the film developed... --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Push Processing Film
on 07/23/02 13:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] shared with me: > In a message dated 7/23/2002 12:28:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> It's been mentioned before that 100 ISO film pushed 1 stop should be shot >> at 320 ISO and that shooting it at 200 ISO is not a 1 stop push. How valid >> >> is this? > > A doubling of film speed is a one stop push. Rating ISO 100 film at ISO 200 > is a one stop push, at ISO 400 it's a two stop push. This is the way I've > always understood it. > > I found this, however, on the Kodak web site: > > "With longer development times, such as those used in push processing, EI > values actually do increase, but only slightly. Underexpose a film by two > stops and give it a two-stop push, and the real film speed will typically > increase by perhaps a half stop. This means that the film is really > underexposed by only 1 ½ stops, not two stops. But it is underexposed. " > > So, rating ISO 100 speed film at ISO 400 is only a 1 1/2 stop under exposure. > Hummm Making an assumption, I'd say that the push processing of film is akin to long exposures. The longer you expose a film, the longer you must actually expose it to get the exposure you were aiming for. I don't remember the phrase for this, but it means if you expose film x for one minute, to achieve what any exposure chart will calculate for you, you must really expose for 1.5 minutes. Other films will need other adjustments (is it Reciprocity Failure?) based on their inherent exposure properties. Sometimes wrongly confused with developer exhaustion. JoMac, Pentaxian "Pentax, Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh" and above the rest. k t, s e n Living life aw o almost parallel to, r yet ever so slightly o u t ---> f - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Push Processing Film
on 07/23/02 13:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] shared with me: > I found this, however, on the Kodak web site: > > "With longer development times, such as those used in push processing, EI > values actually do increase, but only slightly. Underexpose a film by two > stops and give it a two-stop push, and the real film speed will typically > increase by perhaps a half stop. This means that the film is really > underexposed by only 1 ½ stops, not two stops. But it is underexposed. " > > So, rating ISO 100 speed film at ISO 400 is only a 1 1/2 stop under exposure. > Hummm > > -Brendan MacRae Seeing my signiture, you are probably not aware that the ½ symbol I see is Alt-shift-P, a tall kinda pi thingy. What is it on your font? '1/2' or a curly f () that preceeds "stop." JoMac, Pentaxian "Pentax, Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh" and above the rest. k t, s e n Living life aw o almost parallel to, r yet ever so slightly o u t ---> f - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Tripod
> >Anyway, I'm in the market for a new one. It's got to be > light and get > down pretty low. I have the Slik 444 Sport II. I've had it for a year and I haven't broken it yet. :) It weighs 4 lbs, only goes up about 5 feet but it gets down pretty low. I paid about $120 for it at B&H last year. http://www.tocad.com/14d.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?
Peter wrote: > I don't know why Pentax doesn't see this unique selling point: a digital > Pentax SLR with KAF mount will even be able to accept the standard lens of > my Asahiflex I. A 50-year old lens on a digital SLR... Well, from Pentax point of view any digital camera, and particularly an slr, is a money drain. Digital slr's hasn't really started taking off saleswise yet, so any Pentax digital slr in the immediate future is more for marketing positioning. > I'm not interested in the Optio cameras, I want my digital Pentax SLR! > Pentax, please listen to us!!! Pentax is working on a digital slr but nothing has leaked out about it's specifications. The Pentax distributors expect it at Photokina. There has been rumors posted on PDML that it will be released now in July but I have not been able to get this confirmed by Pentax people. Quite the opposite in fact; nobody is expecting anything major until Photokina in september. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Family Stuff Available
When in Wisconsin this weekend (enjoying a family reunion & curds!) a relative game me his outfit to sell. He's not used it in several years, and when used, was used lightly if at all. #1. ME Super body. SOLD before I could tell anyone #2. Kiron 80-200/4 M-class, clean, zipper case, LN $50 #3. Kiron 1.5x TC M-class, zipper case, LN $35 #4. AF200s flash $20 #5 Kino 28/2 lens M-class, draw-string puch. LN $75 Collin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Need a new digital camera, what now?
Newly-subscribed Peter asks: >will Pentax launch a digital SLR and if so, will it accept the same lenses >as, for instance, the MZ-6? If Pentax had a digital SLR which accepts all of >today's lenses, I'd buy it immediately. I mean, I have numerous lenses in >K-mount, but also some very useful M42 lenses from 17mm up to 500 mm. So, >the big question is: where can I buy this digital Pentax SLR and how soon >will it be available? :-) Pentax was originally going to market a full-frame CCD digital SLR, until manufacturing problems or cost problems or both caused it to be scrapped. At the time of it's announced demise, Pentax revealed that work was under way to produce a lower spec (my words) derivative, more along the lines of the Canon D60 / Nikon D100, and this is still the official line. No release date has been set, but many sources expect a debut either later this year, or early next. Photokina in September is often quoted as a forum for such a debut, and it would seem a likely venue for an announcement. Like you, and doubtless many others, I am in the same situation. I would dearly love a digital SLR that would accept older and newer K mount glass. I have been waiting, as others, for quite some time now. But not for much longer. For the sort of photography that I do, a DSLR would be perfect, and the more I wait, the more I realise how true this is. I do not wet print, I do not require the quality that film provides. I shoot on film, spend hours scanning and farting about, when all I then do is print onto inkjet paper. Where's the point in that? I *do* like the archival quality of film, but it's a trade-off I am prepared to sacrifice. And so, I am gearing up to buy a Canon D60. My cutoff date is Photokina. If there is no announcement from Pentax, my order will be placed. If there *is* an announcement, I'll hold off until it becomes clear that something tangible is forthcoming, or not. I am slightly worried by quality (you may laugh...) in that a Pentax DSLR must at least match the D60 for me - not an easy task by any stretch. I am also slightly worried by first generation products. But if the spec is right, I might be persuaded ;-) Any DSLR would be in addition to traditional film gear in my bag. I would not particularly want to abandon film per se. I still see it as a very useful tool - and for quality, it still can beat digital (at the moment), but for my needs, it would be nostalgic rather than anything else. Stills photography for me is the activity. Film is a medium. Digital acquisition (for want of a better name) is also a medium. I see no reason not to be able to use either or both and produce a finished image that will appear on a wall, a screen, a piece of paper or whatever. To me, it's the finished image that is the most important thing. If it looks right, it *is* right. .02 GBP Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Push Processing Film
In a message dated 7/23/2002 12:28:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It's been mentioned before that 100 ISO film pushed 1 stop should be shot > at 320 ISO and that shooting it at 200 ISO is not a 1 stop push. How valid > > is this? A doubling of film speed is a one stop push. Rating ISO 100 film at ISO 200 is a one stop push, at ISO 400 it's a two stop push. This is the way I've always understood it. I found this, however, on the Kodak web site: "With longer development times, such as those used in push processing, EI values actually do increase, but only slightly. Underexpose a film by two stops and give it a two-stop push, and the real film speed will typically increase by perhaps a half stop. This means that the film is really underexposed by only 1 ½ stops, not two stops. But it is underexposed. " So, rating ISO 100 speed film at ISO 400 is only a 1 1/2 stop under exposure. Hummm -Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Vs: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Hi Frank! It is said that the Bessa R (and R2) rangefinder is a copy of the CL´s. The extra noise comes from the meter cell semaphore retracting out of the light path. The CL is an extremely nice camera, sometimes I wish I had´n sold it. And all Voigtlander lenses fit, with adapter. I still have the instructions - in German - if you have questions contact me off list. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 23. heinäkuuta 2002 13:52 Aihe: Re: Vs: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa >Hi, Chris, > >Of the cameras that I use the most, my systems aren't that far from yours. > >But for street photography, as I posted last week, I just got a Leica CL with >Summicron C 40mm. Not dissimilar, I suppose, from your Bessas, except that M series >lens compatibility with the CL may be a problem with certain lenses; I've read >conflicting reports. Not that lens compatibility is really an issue at this point. >With the cost of Leica glass, I think this will basically be a one-lens camera for >quite some time. >a little thing like that, would they?" (not that I'm "serious"). Also, it's quiter >than the MX (but a bit noisier than I thought it would be). With the lens >hyper-focused to the range I need (around 4 to 25 feet) it's a focus free camera - >very easy to talk and shoot at the same time. I brought the camera to a large party >on >Saturday night, and had a blast! Blah-blah-blah, click. Blah-blah-blah, click. I'm >sure after a while, no one even noticed I was shooting. Great fun. >regards, >frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Results of test - C41 push processing.
But Ferrania made all the later 3M films? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Don Williams Finland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 23. heinäkuuta 2002 21:35 Aihe: Re: Results of test - C41 push processing. >I thought Imation was made by 3M and it's available here as well. > >Don > >Dr E D F Williams > >http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams >Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery >Updated: March 30, 2002 > > >- Original Message - >From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:37 PM >Subject: Re: Results of test - C41 push processing. > > >> Ferrania is sold in the USA under the name Imation, and is probably the >> largest distributor of 3rd party film here. Eckerd drug, CVS pharmacies, >> most off brand single use cameras, Food Lion and Winn-Dixie Supermarkets. >> All of these "house" brands are Imation. Walgreen's "Studio 35" is Agfa. >> >> Bill KG4LOV >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 645NII
Christien wrote: > Hi all, I'm currently looking to get one of these lovely creatures. > > Also my lense lists will include 75mm ,45mm, 200mm Lenses to go with it. > > Does anyone have any fields experience with this camera and lenses ? I've using the 645N for four years now. It's a great camera. I suggest you look into the two new zoom lenses: the 33-55 and the 55-110. I'm expecting my 33-55 by the end of the week. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: sf10 metering modes
The SF10 has Programmed AE, Aperture priotity AE, shutter priority AE and metered manual. The 'spot' metering is only availabe in the metered manual and when memory lock enabled/engaged. Pentax doesn't call it 'spot', they call it TTL central area metering. -Original Message- From: Ivan Imhof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sf10 metering modes Hello, I need some help, could anybody tell me, which metering modes the SF10 has and how can be activated? I've tried to browse the net, but I couldn't found much information. I've seen on Bojidar Dimitrov's page the followings: --- Metering with A, F and FA Lenses: M2 iii, S ii Metering with K and M Lenses: C i, S ii i = In Av exposure mode with ML not engaged. ii = When M exposure mode or when ML is engaged. iii = In Av, Tv, or P exposure modes with ML not engaged --- I'm still confused, because I couldn't find any related information in the manual. So how can I activate the spot metering with AF or K/M lenses? Is it activated automatically in Manual mode, when the exposure mode different from Av? What is the meaning of "ML engaged/not engaged"? (sorry for the stupid question)... Thanks and cheers, Ivan (MuzX) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vivitar Series 1 70-210 - zoom creep
Hello to all, I finally received my Vivitar Series 1 70-210 zoom yesterday. Optically it is very clean with only a couple of dust specks. Mechanically, the zoom ring rotates very well but it has zoom creep. Short of throwing a rubber band around the barrel/zoom ring, are there any other fixes to this? It must be costly to have it fixed so I think I'll use rubber band for now. With the exception of the zoom creep this one will be a keeper. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks to everyone who pitched in their opinions on this lens. Francis M. Alviar Irvine, CA Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Hi Paul Do you use hyperfocus? For lenses 35mm and wider I often use that in combination with apertures f8 and smaller, and you will get fairly sharp photos on most occasions. I usually figure out the exposure in my surroundings, set that, hyperfocus ... and proceed to frame and shoot, regardless of whether using SLR or RF cameras. Minimum fiddling. Someone pointed out today the advantage of an RF camera like the Bessa where you can typically shoot shutter speeds 1-2 stops slower than equivalent SLR because there is no mirror vibration. So for instance, instead of using the inverse rule that a 50mm lens should be used down to between 1/30 and 1/60 at best, in theory one could handhold it down to 1/15 if steady, with an RF camera. Furthermore, the advantage of any RF camera is to epitomize what Lomographers call "shoot from the hip" . Very approximate framing, focus and shooting. Different approach to shooting compared to SLRs :) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:47:12 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa In 2000 and 2001, I acquired a stable of fixed-lens Yashica and Konica rangefinders and began using them as my go-everywhere cameras. The results were quite satisfactory. But I never got the knack for focusing quickly, and by the time I'd get my subject in focus, he or she would see me fiddling and ask me to stop. Also, exposure compensation was not easy, requiring a turn of the difficult-to-reach ISO dial. Compensation is, however, easier on other fixed-lens RFs. I've sold off all but one RF, a Yashica Electro GL (40/1.7, 6 elements in 4 groups, ISO 1600 dial). It's very sharp even at f/2. I use it solely to get great, vibration-free, available-light backstage shots at school plays and other indoor events. But even for this, I'm using my SLRs more, because they focus so much more quickly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
sf10 metering modes
Hello, I need some help, could anybody tell me, which metering modes the SF10 has and how can be activated? I've tried to browse the net, but I couldn't found much information. I've seen on Bojidar Dimitrov's page the followings: --- Metering with A, F and FA Lenses: M2 iii, S ii Metering with K and M Lenses: C i, S ii i = In Av exposure mode with ML not engaged. ii = When M exposure mode or when ML is engaged. iii = In Av, Tv, or P exposure modes with ML not engaged --- I'm still confused, because I couldn't find any related information in the manual. So how can I activate the spot metering with AF or K/M lenses? Is it activated automatically in Manual mode, when the exposure mode different from Av? What is the meaning of "ML engaged/not engaged"? (sorry for the stupid question)... Thanks and cheers, Ivan (MuzX) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Results of test - C41 push processing.
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don > Williams Finland > > > Processing Ferrania Solaris FG400 for 1600 ASA. > > An introduction is unnecessary since the intention is obvious. > > Methods and Materials. > > Film: Ferrania FG400 I've never heard of this filmis it Italian? > > Results. > > The third frame in each case, 1/500 at f8, was correctly > exposed for the > subject chosen. How did you determine this? What's the criteria for correct exposure? Are you saying your 1/500 exposures look just like your 1/125 exposures? How did you determine 1/125th was the correct exposure? I must say they don't look bad. I don't see the brown "muck" usually seen with underexposed color negs. Have you printed any of these? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax 645NII
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christien Bunting > > Are there any necessary accessories I should be looking at ? You just need the body, some lenses and an insert or 2. If you're doing landscapes you might want to have a look at the new 33-55 zoom lens, as well as the 120 macro (I happen to be selling mine). Have fun, and good luck with your new venture. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Focussing is definitely an issue for me with respect to rangefinders - Mind you - they do lend themselves quite easily to "slow" street action - by saying this I mean; the time to focus (or at least get used to focussing) with a range finder usually results in "missed" shots if you're trying to nail fast action photos. That being said, rarely do you see someone using a rangefinder for "fast action" (at least not to my knowledge), but the Contax G2 is considered a rangefinder and is autofocus with a top speed of 1/6000 second in auto mode so it could feasibly be used for action - the titanium casing sort of takes away from the "discreetness" of the camera though. Ideally the Canonet GIII QL17 is perfect - as Frank has stated "why would a 'pro' use that type of camera" - thereby putting the subjects in the frame at ease and allowing for nice, quiet, people watching :) Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:43:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa Hi, Paul, I too have a Yashica Electro 35, and it's a wonderful camera, especially for what I paid. Extremely sharp and fast lens! But I, too found it slow to use, especially focusing. Part of the problem was the rather dim (in my body at least) rangefinder "patch" (or whatever you call it). Another part of the problem is that there's no dof scale on the lens. I guess my ultimate point is that a rangefinder can be ~very~ fast to use with small aperture, and hyperfocus. Much faster than focusing either manually or auto-focus. But hyperfocus is not so easy without a dof scale... regards, frank "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > In 2000 and 2001, I acquired a stable of fixed-lens Yashica and Konica > rangefinders and began using them as my go-everywhere cameras. The results > were quite satisfactory. But I never got the knack for focusing quickly, > and by the time I'd get my subject in focus, he or she would see me > fiddling and ask me to stop. > > Also, exposure compensation was not easy, requiring a turn of the > difficult-to-reach ISO dial. Compensation is, however, easier on other > fixed-lens RFs. > > I've sold off all but one RF, a Yashica Electro GL (40/1.7, 6 elements in 4 > groups, ISO 1600 dial). It's very sharp even at f/2. I use it solely to get > great, vibration-free, available-light backstage shots at school plays and > other indoor events. But even for this, I'm using my SLRs more, because > they focus so much more quickly. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 645NII
Check check check We have 2 systems 1) 2.4 GHz P4 with 1.5GB ram and 120GB HD 2) my old Dual 800 P3 with 1GB ram and 2x 72GB U160 Scsi HD The DVD-R is what we don't have. Thanks - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Pentax 645NII > On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:52:29 -0400, Christien Bunting wrote: > > > [...] Minolta Dimage Multi Pro Medium format scanner so we will > > get something like a 80Mege Pixel image [...] > > > > Are there any necessary accessories I should be looking at ? > > 1) MEMORY MEMORY MEMORY ... an 80 Mpixel image will consume most of > 256MB of memory at 24-bit color, and the best part of 512MB at 48-bit. > I'd say 1GB of memory is the lowest level you'd want to look at. > > 2) A bloody great hard drive, for the same reasons. A 40GB drive will > only hold about 150 80Mpixel images at 24-bit color, half that at > 48-bit color. > > 3) A DVD-R or DVD-RW drive for archiving the raw scans, if you're going > to do that. A CD will only hold about five 4,000 dpi scans of 35mm > negative film at 48-bit color. > > TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Chris wrote "One area where there is, from my perspective, more opportunity for the Voigtlander is in people photography. I took 4 rolls at a recent Jazz festival with the Bessa R and my subjects actually smiled at me, a far cry from the ZX-5n which I brought to a street fair a month or so ago and people where actually running to get out of view. My experience exactly - the town I live in has a free music festival every Friday night through July with 5 or 6 groups playing on the various squares around town. The first night I went out with the MZ-3 and 43mm - people moved out of the way and as I approached some of the bandstands, it seemed that some of the musicians reacted to the camera. The following week I went out with the Minolta CLE with the 40mm lens and everything was much more natural and relaxed. I also found that the RF focusing to be quicker/easier when shooting the bands. Pat _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT:Toronto PDML Posters
Hello Toronto,and other Canadian PDMLers.I am willng to do some leg work to get some posters our way. I know Andre has set up something towards the Eastern end of our vast lands,in Montreal,but i'm looking to see who is interested in getting a poster for Central-West. E mail me off list over the next few days and i'll get in touch with Dario re his costs for X number sent to me for disribution. I know we have about 5-6 in Toronto area(Vic i got your email),Thunder Bay a few and several West of Ontario. Once i know my cost to Dario,and i'll check with the local Post Office were i reside,i'll work out and post the figures Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT Electro 35 was:Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Hi, Gabor, Sas Gabor wrote: > Some other problems: > - Electro 35's are quite large and heavy for an RF camera. Yes, they are... > > - The light meter is on the body (not on the lens), so using filters is a pain. Yes, it is... > > - They gave no information on the shutter speed at all. True. But, at least if the light's red, you stop down until it goes out, and you know you're around 1/500. Same thing on the lower end (yellow below 1/30). So you can use the aperture to stop up or down, and have a pretty good idea of about what your shutter speed is. I think you have to remember that this was an amateur camera for those who couldn't afford an slr (still exotic and expensive in the late 60's). It was also the very first camera with an all-electronic shutter, so this was very new technology. The allure of the camera, these days, is that it has a very sharp fast lens (still, after all these years!), and it's so freaking cheap - like $20 isn't unheard of on eBay. A real bargain - albeit with the limitations that you quite rightly point out. regards, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Semi-OT: Agfa film question
Every A&P that has the inhouse photo lab stocks Agfa consumer films,Kodak and the noname stuff,at least in Ontario. Dave Begin Original Message From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 01:14:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Agfa film question A&P here in the States, and probably Canada as well, is the Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company, which at least used to be based in Boston Mass. At 07:59 AM 7/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >At 04:10 16-7-2002 -0400, you wrote: >>From: Martin Mielke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Agfa film question >> >>I've never used HDC, but I understand its discontinued and that Vista is the >>replacement. I've used Vista 100 and 200 in the past few months and have >>been pleased with the results; based on my experiences it compares well to >>Optima. It is indeed hard to find, however. I can find it here in Thunder >>Bay at a local pro shop, but also at the A&P, of all places. >> >>Martin > >Is A&P perhaps a German store? I know they have A&Ps in Europe. >When I lived in the Netherlands, if I wanted to buy Agfa film, I would >often have to go to the drug store to buy it. My local camera shop didn't >stock it. > >Wendy > >--- >Wendy Beard >Ottawa, Canada >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >home page http://www.beard-redfern.com >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: Pentax 645NII
One question i'd like to ask is about a grip for the 645.I know most of these types of cameras have the shutter button in the front,like a TLR,but i have recently seen some cameras om ebay with what looks like a meII winder type grip.Does this allow for shutter release as in an SLR type of way,and does it make it easier to hand hold. Dave Begin Original Message From: "Stephen Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:16:36 -0700 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Pentax 645NII I bought one about two months ago and I love it! I'm still getting used to it only because it's the only medium format camera I've used, but it really is a joy. I have the 75mm lens but have rented a 80-160 zoom that was nice also. It really is an easy camera to use and I'm sure you'll love it. Stephen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-pentax- [EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christien Bunting Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax 645NII Hi all, I'm currently looking to get one of these lovely creatures. Also my lense lists will include 75mm ,45mm, 200mm Lenses to go with it. Does anyone have any fields experience with this camera and lenses ? Thanks Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Epson 2450 Photo scanner
David. I have one of these units too.As far as doing a scan from a print,it works great.Good colour matching,the few i'v done required little PS adjusting.I used lower resolutions 800-1200,just for personal use.I have tried them in the Epson software and Silverfast,found Epson sharp,Silverfast too sharp,but i did have it on auto sharpen 100%. As far as 35mm scans,they come out soft,like they are out of focus.The few 120 neg/pos look good but the way the the holder is built,flatness is sometimes an issue.To much room for the neg to sag,solution is not known to me. All in all its a decent scanner to start.When i get more into the MF stuff in the next year or so,i probably will sell or trade it in on a proper neg scanner. I have sample scans on this page. http://brooks1952.tripod.com/epson2450 Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Results of test - C41 push processing.
Processing Ferrania Solaris FG400 for 1600 ASA. An introduction is unnecessary since the intention is obvious. Methods and Materials. Film: Ferrania FG400 Camera used for test exposures: Pentax P30 with SMC Pentax-M 50/1.7 and VMC Vivitar 135/3.5. Processing: Tetenal Colortec C-41 Rapid Negative Kit in Kindermann s/s tank rotated at 9 rpm in water bath at 45 degree angle. Temperature held at 38C plus/minus 0.1C by a Lauda laboratory thermostat with circulating pump. Film stabilised and dried at room temperature. Scanning: Negatives were scanned in an Olympus ES-10S at 2400x1600 pixels. The monitor used with the PC is a Nokia Multigraph 447X at 1156 x 864. Monitor was set-up using the PhotoShop 6 utility. Experimental. Exposure was measured using the camera metering. The test was carried out in slightly overcast conditions in the morning. The natural lighting was from behind the camera and uniform. Normal exposure as determined by the camera would have been 125/8. Three exposures were made - 125/8, 250/8 and 500/8 - of several different subjects. The normal lens (Pentax-M 50mm f1.7) was exchanged for a Vivitar 135mm f3.5 after the first three frames. The film was processed in a Kindermann s/s tank held to within less than +- 0.1C of 38C for 20% longer than the normal. Developing time was 288 seconds. Bleach fix (8 minutes) and rinsing was done at 38C. For stabilisation the temperature was not controlled. The film was dried at room temperature. The film was scanned without compensation of any kind besides focussing. After scanning the slight colour cast of the selected, correctly exposed pictures, was removed in the PC with the automatic feature of Paint Shop Pro. Results. The third frame in each case, 1/500 at f8, was correctly exposed for the subject chosen. The third of each set of test exposures can be found at http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/index.htm . Included are scans of blank frames taken from a normally exposed and processed FG400 film and the push-processed film. These scans were reversed so that the increase in density of the mask and the slight colour cast in the case of the push-processed film would be visible to the eye. The slightly exaggerated grain can also be observed. Note: The colour cast is also reversed. Conclusion. A speed increase to 1600 using Ferrania Solaris FG400 can be achieved with acceptable results. The increase in density and the slight colour cast can be easily eliminated with image processing software. The rough grain, a characteristic of this fast film, does not appear much more intrusive in a push processed film. It works, Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 645NII
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:52:29 -0400, Christien Bunting wrote: > [...] Minolta Dimage Multi Pro Medium format scanner so we will > get something like a 80Mege Pixel image [...] > > Are there any necessary accessories I should be looking at ? 1) MEMORY MEMORY MEMORY ... an 80 Mpixel image will consume most of 256MB of memory at 24-bit color, and the best part of 512MB at 48-bit. I'd say 1GB of memory is the lowest level you'd want to look at. 2) A bloody great hard drive, for the same reasons. A 40GB drive will only hold about 150 80Mpixel images at 24-bit color, half that at 48-bit color. 3) A DVD-R or DVD-RW drive for archiving the raw scans, if you're going to do that. A CD will only hold about five 4,000 dpi scans of 35mm negative film at 48-bit color. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SMCP-FA 100mm f2.8 and 1.7x AF TC
Hi Shaun, On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:42:32 +1000, Shaun Canning wrote: > Has anyone tried using this combination? In theory it would/should provide a > 170mm f/4.76 Macro. Thoughts? I haven't tried that combination, but the 1.7X AF T/C works just fine with my Tamron 90/2.5, SMC-A 50/1.4, and SMC-A 200/4, though it gets a little "touchy" with an f/4 lens. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Hi, On 23 Jul 2002 at 7:43, frank theriault wrote: > I too have a Yashica Electro 35, and it's a wonderful camera, especially for > what I paid. Extremely sharp and fast lens! > > But I, too found it slow to use, especially focusing. Part of the problem was > the rather dim (in my body at least) rangefinder "patch" (or whatever you call > it). Another part of the problem is that there's no dof scale on the lens. Some other problems: - Electro 35's are quite large and heavy for an RF camera. - The light meter is on the body (not on the lens), so using filters is a pain. - They gave no information on the shutter speed at all. Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 645NII
My wife and I are gong to setup a small yet unique business and I we would be doing alot of landscape and nature shots. I really want to be prepared for when a customer asks for a large print or a high definition print. The camera will be bought in conjunction with the Minolta Dimage Multi Pro Medium format scanner so we will get something like a 80Mege Pixel image which should make for some nice sized prints and also some really nice panoramas when the negative is cropped. So I'm really looking forward to it. Are there any necessary accessories I should be looking at ? - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:15 AM Subject: RE: Pentax 645NII > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christien Bunting > > > > > > Hi all, I'm currently looking to get one of these lovely creatures. > > > > Also my lense lists will include 75mm ,45mm, 200mm Lenses > > to go with it. > > > > Does anyone have any fields experience with this camera and lenses ? > > Sharp lenses, big negs. What exactly did you want to know? > > tv > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Hi, Paul, I too have a Yashica Electro 35, and it's a wonderful camera, especially for what I paid. Extremely sharp and fast lens! But I, too found it slow to use, especially focusing. Part of the problem was the rather dim (in my body at least) rangefinder "patch" (or whatever you call it). Another part of the problem is that there's no dof scale on the lens. I guess my ultimate point is that a rangefinder can be ~very~ fast to use with small aperture, and hyperfocus. Much faster than focusing either manually or auto-focus. But hyperfocus is not so easy without a dof scale... regards, frank "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > In 2000 and 2001, I acquired a stable of fixed-lens Yashica and Konica > rangefinders and began using them as my go-everywhere cameras. The results > were quite satisfactory. But I never got the knack for focusing quickly, > and by the time I'd get my subject in focus, he or she would see me > fiddling and ask me to stop. > > Also, exposure compensation was not easy, requiring a turn of the > difficult-to-reach ISO dial. Compensation is, however, easier on other > fixed-lens RFs. > > I've sold off all but one RF, a Yashica Electro GL (40/1.7, 6 elements in 4 > groups, ISO 1600 dial). It's very sharp even at f/2. I use it solely to get > great, vibration-free, available-light backstage shots at school plays and > other indoor events. But even for this, I'm using my SLRs more, because > they focus so much more quickly. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vs: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Hi, Chris, Of the cameras that I use the most, my systems aren't that far from yours. My three Spotmatics still get use, but not so much now that I have the MX (with MV as a backup body). I've been rationalizing my screwmount lens collection, basically getting rid of my 3rd party lenses (except one zoom), and concentrating on eventually using all Takumars with my Spots - I've got a long way to go, but that's my plan... The camera I use the most is the MX, although I'm still in the process of building up my k mount lenses. With the Series 1 24-48 zoom (whenever I get it from Shel) and Sigma APO 50-200, I've got a nice usable range for 95% of my needs in a real small package (one lens on the body, one in a lens case around my neck - no need for a camera bag!) But for street photography, as I posted last week, I just got a Leica CL with Summicron C 40mm. Not dissimilar, I suppose, from your Bessas, except that M series lens compatibility with the CL may be a problem with certain lenses; I've read conflicting reports. Not that lens compatibility is really an issue at this point. With the cost of Leica glass, I think this will basically be a one-lens camera for quite some time. My original plan was to use the MX as my street camera, once I got the pancake for which I've been lusting. Dave Chang-Sang's Leica becoming available changed that plan, though. What I like about the CL (as mentioned by Cotty, I think), is that to the general public, it looks like a p&s - "a serious photographer wouldn't use a little thing like that, would they?" (not that I'm "serious"). Also, it's quiter than the MX (but a bit noisier than I thought it would be). With the lens hyper-focused to the range I need (around 4 to 25 feet) it's a focus free camera - very easy to talk and shoot at the same time. I brought the camera to a large party on Saturday night, and had a blast! Blah-blah-blah, click. Blah-blah-blah, click. I'm sure after a while, no one even noticed I was shooting. Great fun. I think that Pentax slr's and a decent rangefinder system are quite complementary of each other. Not really a matter of "which do I use most", but "these cameras do different things in different situations". regards, frank Chris wrote: > >No, it's not a test between the two. I've essentially whittled down my > >collection to 6 cameras, on the Pentax side the LX, ZX-5n, and an SV > >screwmount (additionally, a Chinon CE-4), and a Bessa R and L. > > > >I'd be interested in knowing if any of you in the PDML have a similar set up > >and how you feel about using your equipment. I have to say, and I don't > >want to sound sacrilegious, but my CV equipment has been used far more > >regularly (save for a recent vacation to Nova Scotia - only Pentax equipment > >used). > > > >One area where there is, from my perspective, more opportunity for the > >Voigtlander is in people photography. I took 4 rolls at a recent Jazz > >festival with the Bessa R and my subjects actually smiled at me, a far cry > >from the ZX-5n which I brought to a street fair a month or so ago and people > >where actually running to get out of view. Of course, I went to Old Timer's > >day at Yankee Stadium, and the LX and 200mm M was the only choice to capture > >Reggie Jackson and his speech at his induction to Monument Park. > > > >I've been very impressed with the glass on the CV, owning the very nice 35mm > >f2.5 Classic, the great (TINY!) little 15mm and the 25mm I bought with the > >Bessa L. I use a Russian 50mm that serves it's purpose, and a Russian 85mm > >that is more than serviceable. > > > >Obviously, there's no macro, depth of field, multiple exposure capabilities > >with the CV stuff, but the Bessas have increased the fun quotient and are > >much smaller. The LX meter is something beyond the capabilities of most > >cameras ever made, but then I don't use the Bessas in the same way, when > >critical exposures are necessary. > > > >I guess for me I've found the perfect companion set up to the LX etc. Both > >kits seem to complement each other, and there's sometimes clearly a "Bessa" > >opportunity and a "Pentax" opportunity. > > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
UK Photos are on their way...
I've finally sorted through all my photos from the UK, and have done a bit of scanning (about 80 files with a few more to be added later). Now I'm just stuffing all the info into a database. I'm about halfway through doing this at the moment. It should all be online by the end of the week :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
In 2000 and 2001, I acquired a stable of fixed-lens Yashica and Konica rangefinders and began using them as my go-everywhere cameras. The results were quite satisfactory. But I never got the knack for focusing quickly, and by the time I'd get my subject in focus, he or she would see me fiddling and ask me to stop. Also, exposure compensation was not easy, requiring a turn of the difficult-to-reach ISO dial. Compensation is, however, easier on other fixed-lens RFs. I've sold off all but one RF, a Yashica Electro GL (40/1.7, 6 elements in 4 groups, ISO 1600 dial). It's very sharp even at f/2. I use it solely to get great, vibration-free, available-light backstage shots at school plays and other indoor events. But even for this, I'm using my SLRs more, because they focus so much more quickly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
50/2.8 A, F, FA macros compared (was FS: AF400FTZ and FA 50/2.8)
Andre wrote: I'd like to know if some PDMLers have been able to compare both but then I should begin a new link with that question. Collected comments (just 1, actually) on the 50/2.8 PKA, which has a max. magnification of 1:2: O.U. Peterson: All metal. Optical quality if fine but not superior to Nikon and Canon macros I have used. The focus is not as smooth as Nikon and Canon macros. Used prices are very high: $300 to $350 mint. Collected comments on the 50/2.8 F: Rated 4.9 out of 5.0 in Olle Bjernulfs comprehensive web listing of lenses. "I have found each of these to be superb: F 50/2.8 Macro (also, the A 50/2.8 is very slightly less sharp, and only goes to 2:1, but I prefer it to the F 50/2.8 anyhow." Collected comments on the 50/2.8 FA: Takes Pentax lens hood RH-RA52. Takes lens case S80-120. Writes Phil: I use this lens a lot. I find the lens to be very sharp although I hardly ever use it wide open. From f/4 to f/22 all my prints up t 16x20 have been very sharp, using Fuji 100 and 400 film. I wish they had made the focusing ring a little wider, more like the FA 100/2.8 macro. Its hard to grip the narrow focus ring. This is the best lens Ive used for macro copy work, like documents, stamps, pictures, and most other flat items. I suppose it would make a fine normal 50mm lens also, though my work has all been up close. According to Yoshihitas website tests, this lens is unbelievably sharp compared to Pentaxs nonmacros: 87 lines at f/2.8 and f/4, 98 at f/5.6, 110 at f/8 through f/16, 98 at f/22, 69 at f/32. Corners: 78 at f/2.8 and f/4, 87 at 5.6, 110 at f/8 and f/11, 98 at f/16, 78 at f/22, 55 at f/32. But with 800 film rated at 2500, sharpness may not matter. Yoshihiko Takinami writes: this macro is excellent not only for macro work but also for normal use. Better than Sigma EX because the SMC coating is better. Yoshi: In my experience, FA50/2.8 macro seems the *sharpest* with great resolving power and contrast. But I prefer FA43/1.9 or FA50/1.4 to shoot with. My top two sharpest primes (from a subjective rather than objective measurement) are the FA50/2.8 macro and my K35/3.5. My A50/1.4 is a pretty close third. --David Collett Oxford, U TV (Tom): "I used to use it as my normal lens until I got the 43, and I use that because of the size, speed, focal length and color rendition. The 3d thing is cool too. Now I use the 50 for close-ups, and portraits of small things like babies and cats. I'll probably start doing some copy photography soon, and it would be the obvious choice. The FA 50mm macro is very sharp. I haven't rigorously tested it under various conditions, but it's seen a fair bit of film in the 2 years I've had it and it's definitely sharp. I think the color rendition is a bit flat compared to other Pentax lenses. I wonder if Pentax has a different design philosophy wrt to macro lenses...I suspect a "natural" look is of paramount importance in a lens which may have scientific applications. Maybe 'natural' is a better description then 'flat'. This is just a guess, obviously, I can't make any other explanation for the color rendition. It's well-built, designed in the same manner as the 100/2.8 and 135/.28. "Solid, well built, the main drawback being the clamp switch, which doesn't inspire much confidence. Large for a normal lens, but balances very nicely on a ZX-5n. I can't see any distortion or light falloff. Bokeh is fine. (not sure how else to describe it) This lens is the fastest autofocusing of all the FA's I've used. William Oneil: :I would give it an 8.5/10 overall. One minor thing I don't like about it is the short working distance, but that is common with all 50mm Macros. I wish they made an FA* version of it with the usual FA* features as well as an F1.4 aperture. They would probably need to include aspherical elements to do it, but so be it. Mostly for macro work. About 20% of my usage is for what you would use an normal 50mm lens for in my line of work. Environmental nature, landscapes, waterfalls, etc. This is the only lens I carry in this focal range most of the time. "How well built is it? For a non-* lens it is very well made. No complaints here. It has a metal barrel and a good sturdy feel. > How is the lens handling (weight, size, etc.)? "It is quite a bit heavier and bigger than the average plastic piece of junk they try to sell as a lens these days (such as the FA 50/1.4 or FA 50/1.7), but I am more than willing to put up with that to get the quality this lens delivers. I would like to have the FA* auto-focus clutch though and a little nicer MF damping Optical qualities: Resoluti [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax 645NII
Chris, I've been using the 645n for almost two years and just love it. To me it was a natural progression from 35mm. It has the same rectangular format verses square for the 67II. The lenses are very very good. easy to use and while more expensive than 35mm, much less than non-Pentax. I have the following lenses. SMCP-A 35mm f 3.5 manual focus SMCP-A 150mm f3.5 manual focus SMCP-A 200mm f 4 manual focus SMCP-FA 400mm f 5.6 auto focus SMCP-FA 45-84mm f 4.5 auto focus SMCP-FA 80-160mm f 4.5 auto focus All are sharp and live up to the Pentax reputation for great contrast and flare resistance. The built-in film advance is another great plus. It makes loading a snap and you can't beat the ease of use. You won't be sorry with a 645 camera. Mark -Original Message- From: Christien Bunting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax 645NII Hi all, I'm currently looking to get one of these lovely creatures. Also my lense lists will include 75mm ,45mm, 200mm Lenses to go with it. Does anyone have any fields experience with this camera and lenses ? Thanks Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K50/1.4 != M50/1.4 != A50/1.4
on 22.07.02 6:21, Bojidar Dimitrov at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No, not really. With the A lenses Pentax stopped publishing the optical > diagrams, and it is very difficult to find any A-or-later ones. So > unles there is an announcement of a new lens release or optical > redesign, I assume that the optics stay the same and only the > "packaging" and electronics change. That's not true! Pentax has published optical diagrams for ALL lenses in current production (including FA and some F and A lenses). You can find them in lenses catalogue from their Japan home page (in PDF file). Diagrams are quite nice, with colour signed aspherical, ED and two more (unknown to me) kinds of glass. -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Hi, On 22 Jul 2002 at 19:07, Chris Niesmertelny wrote: > No, it's not a test between the two. I've essentially whittled down my > collection to 6 cameras, on the Pentax side the LX, ZX-5n, and an SV > screwmount (additionally, a Chinon CE-4), and a Bessa R and L. Only 6 cameras? ;-) I have the Pentax LX, K2, SuperA, MX and SFXn (3 of them should be enough), a Kiev88, a Certo Six, a Kiev 4 (Contax III) set, a Revue 400SE, a Ricoh 500GX (note that the latter 4 are RFs); and an Espio 928 and a Canon Pima Mini II as "family cameras". > I'd be interested in knowing if any of you in the PDML have a similar set up > and how you feel about using your equipment. If we consider only the Pentax and Kiev4 part, the setup is similar. > I have to say, and I don't > want to sound sacriligious, but my CV equipment has been used far more > regularly (save for a recent vacation to Nova Scotia - only Pentax equipment > used). Most of the time I carry only one of my major systems, and possibly one additional camera in addition. On my recent vacation (Monte Bianco (Italian side) and Cote 'd Azur (France)) I carried an LX based Pentax setup loaded with slides and the Certo Six with BW for some landscapes. The SLR and RF work is so different to me, that I cannot combine them effectively. There are SLR days and RF days. (The Certo is set to infinity most of the time.) > One area where there is, from my perspective, more opportunity for the > Voigtlander is in people photography. I agree. My main reason to have the Kiev4 is the Sonnar 2/85 and the portraits it makes. > the ZX-5n which I brought to a street fair a month or so ago and people > where actually running to get out of view. A black MX with a small lens (M series 2/35, 1.4/50, 2/85, 2.8/100, ...) doesn't seem to have this effect. I don't know why, but a chrome body acts definitely worse at this. > I've been very impressed with the glass on the CV, owning the very nice 35mm > f2.5 Classic, the great (TINY!) little 15mm and the 25mm I bought with the > Bessa L. I use a Russian 50mm that serves it's purpose, and a Russian 85mm > that is more than serviceable. My RF lenses are a 2.8/35, a 2/50, a 2/85 and a 4/135. The 85 is an original Sonnar, the others are original russian copies. ;-) I like them all, great optics. The 35 is a bit hard to use at it isn't a retrofocus design. I'd like to add an extra wide (21mm?) as well, but unfortunately these are extremely rare and expensive for this system. This camera has the built-in finder framed only for 50mm, so I have to use an accessory finder for the other FLs. It's a so called "turret finder", with 5 focal lengths and parallax correction capability. A bit tricky to learn, but works very well if one is used to it. Also, it makes the camera that weird, that people forget to pose or complain... >The LX meter is something beyond the capabilities of most > cameras ever made, but then I don't use the Bessas in the same way, when > critical exposures are necessary. I use an external meter (Svedlovsk 4) for the Kiev4. The built-in selenium one is more of a decoration than a reliable instrument. > I guess for me I've found the perfect companion set up to the LX etc. Both > kits seem to complement each other, and there's sometimes clearly a "Bessa" > opportunity and a "Pentax" opportunity. Agreed. Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa
Hi Chris! Well - I have a somewhat similar inventory but my conclusions are developing to a different direction from yours. I have slimmed my Pentax gear to MZ-S and ME with a selection of lenses. In addition I have a Leica M6 with 5 lenses (including 4.5/15 and 1.7/35 Voigtlanders - and the 1.7/35 Voigtlander is noticeably sharper than the old version of 1.4/35 Summilux I had). Now when I have owned the 3.5-4.5/24-90 IF & AL Pentax lens, I tend to use it and the MZ-S all the time and leave other gear home. I use the Leica very little and I am thinking about selling it (maybe not) or getting the much cheaper Voigtlander Bessa R. And I do miss the MZ-5n for its un-complexity but I do not miss my LX. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Chris Niesmertelny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 23. heinäkuuta 2002 1:07 Aihe: Pentax vs Voigtlander Bessa >No, it's not a test between the two. I've essentially whittled down my >collection to 6 cameras, on the Pentax side the LX, ZX-5n, and an SV >screwmount (additionally, a Chinon CE-4), and a Bessa R and L. > >I'd be interested in knowing if any of you in the PDML have a similar set up >and how you feel about using your equipment. I have to say, and I don't >want to sound sacrilegious, but my CV equipment has been used far more >regularly (save for a recent vacation to Nova Scotia - only Pentax equipment >used). > >One area where there is, from my perspective, more opportunity for the >Voigtlander is in people photography. I took 4 rolls at a recent Jazz >festival with the Bessa R and my subjects actually smiled at me, a far cry >from the ZX-5n which I brought to a street fair a month or so ago and people >where actually running to get out of view. Of course, I went to Old Timer's >day at Yankee Stadium, and the LX and 200mm M was the only choice to capture >Reggie Jackson and his speech at his induction to Monument Park. > >I've been very impressed with the glass on the CV, owning the very nice 35mm >f2.5 Classic, the great (TINY!) little 15mm and the 25mm I bought with the >Bessa L. I use a Russian 50mm that serves it's purpose, and a Russian 85mm >that is more than serviceable. > >Obviously, there's no macro, depth of field, multiple exposure capabilities >with the CV stuff, but the Bessas have increased the fun quotient and are >much smaller. The LX meter is something beyond the capabilities of most >cameras ever made, but then I don't use the Bessas in the same way, when >critical exposures are necessary. > >I guess for me I've found the perfect companion set up to the LX etc. Both >kits seem to complement each other, and there's sometimes clearly a "Bessa" >opportunity and a "Pentax" opportunity. > >Best regards, >Chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Epson 2450 Photo scanner
David, Boy I wish I could say more. I had one that I returned. But the reasoning had nothing to do with standard flatbed scanning. It was more an issue of scanning MF negatives and transparencies. I only scanned a couple of regular photos and to my recollection, it did a great job on those. Bruce Monday, July 22, 2002, 11:54:25 PM, you wrote: DAM> Hi all, DAM> A colleague of mine is shopping for a new flatbed scanner. He's getting DAM> quite serious about photo restoration work and is looking for something DAM> better than his current scanner. DAM> He is currently interested in the Epson "2450 Photo" scanner. He already DAM> has the glossy marketing sheets but he's been looking for comments from DAM> people who have actually used one (an in-store demo is totally out of the DAM> question around here). He didn't find much on the web (dpreview, etc). DAM> He's only interested in scanning printed matter with this scanner. It DAM> comes with a transparency attachment but he won't use that, since he has DAM> an HP S20. DAM> If anyone on here owns this model scanner, or has used one, I'd DAM> appreciate your comments. Be as technical as you like, he knows how to DAM> tell his dpi from his ppi :) DAM> Cheers, DAM> - Dave DAM> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) DAM> - DAM> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, DAM> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to DAM> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Pentax 645NII
I played with one in the store while considering between it and the 67II. There is a lot to like about it. As Tom said, great lenses and big negs. Handling is much more 35mm in nature than the big brother. I haven't heard of anyone who has one complaining that they should have got something else. Bruce Monday, July 22, 2002, 11:15:16 PM, you wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christien Bunting >> >> >> Hi all, I'm currently looking to get one of these lovely creatures. >> >> Also my lense lists will include 75mm ,45mm, 200mm Lenses >> to go with it. >> >> Does anyone have any fields experience with this camera and lenses ? t> Sharp lenses, big negs. What exactly did you want to know? t> tv t> - t> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, t> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to t> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
