Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
On 24 Jun 2003 at 10:36, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062403olympuse1.asp For me overpriced - 2199$ body only... and 7999$ for 300(600)/2.8... Hmm.. Supersonic Wave Filter cleans CCD at each camera start-up (dust is shaken from CCD) tricky. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
on 24.06.03 10:42, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.. Supersonic Wave Filter cleans CCD at each camera start-up (dust is shaken from CCD) tricky. Probably it caused so high price ;-) But indeed interesting. Pentax put CCD below piece of glass - I hope it will be SMC-coated... -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
On 24 Jun 2003 at 10:51, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: on 24.06.03 10:42, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.. Supersonic Wave Filter cleans CCD at each camera start-up (dust is shaken from CCD) tricky. Probably it caused so high price ;-) But indeed interesting. Pentax put CCD below piece of glass - I hope it will be SMC-coated... Great concept but they are going to have a hard time selling this one. The price looks pretty high, the ISO is relatively low and the lenses are all pretty slow (and not as small as one would expect). Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
on 24.06.03 10:58, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great concept but they are going to have a hard time selling this one. The price looks pretty high, the ISO is relatively low and the lenses are all pretty slow (and not as small as one would expect). Exactly. Most pros will rather choose 800$ cheaper Canon 10D despite smaller size of E-1. And *ist D should appear soon - another reason not to buy E-system. But I must admit, that they made impressive work making completely new system from the scratch. And it looks quite complete for being completely new. Does anybody remember how many new FA lenses and AF flashes was available with introducing of Z-series Pentaxes? -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
on 24.06.03 10:58, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great concept but they are going to have a hard time selling this one. The price looks pretty high, the ISO is relatively low and the lenses are all pretty slow (and not as small as one would expect). Actually E-1 body is bigger and heavier by 150g than *ist D. And it has only 5 MPix... You are right - only some specialized pros will buy it (mainly for weather sealed body and lenses) -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Happy Pentax to me
Katrin schrieb: Feroze Kistan wrote: Now I feel like a baby, I was born in 1971. You are a baby... I graduated high school the year before you were born! ;-) -- what should I fee like...? I wasn't even planned in 1971 ^_- I was born in 1977 well, I bought me first Pentax (a ME) about 5 years ago when I got some lenses that my Dad kept when his ME was beyoned repair bye Katrin Hehe, my two cents: I was born in 1967 and bought a Chinon CM-4 in 1983. Bought a used LX three years later, in 1986. The money for that I earned at the local newspaper doing shots darkroom. So my LX ist perhaps 20 now, too? The body approaches 60.000 shots now, and yesterday my motordrive failed :-(( Will they service it? Remember: I haven't found anybody to service a K2-DMD here in Germany. Time for a MZ-S ?!?!? Thomas PS: Katrin, what's that with this X-Japan band? Looks like the styling of L.A.'s Cinema Strange was invented in JAPAN, like virtually everything, I suppose! ;-) -- http://www.cinemastrange.de/yabbasherbstnaechte1.html ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de *
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
Now if Pentax can only put a full mount in the D we'll all get one. --- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 24.06.03 10:58, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great concept but they are going to have a hard time selling this one. The price looks pretty high, the ISO is relatively low and the lenses are all pretty slow (and not as small as one would expect). Actually E-1 body is bigger and heavier by 150g than *ist D. And it has only 5 MPix... You are right - only some specialized pros will buy it (mainly for weather sealed body and lenses) -- Best Regards Sylwek __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
RE: Olympus 4/3 premiere
Overpriced yes. On the other hand.. a pre-production (or possibly production) model was supplied for a preview to Phil Askey and he'll post a preview later today (according to his site). When did Pentax say the *ist-D was going to be available again ? I'm beginning to think that the *ist-D is going to fall by the wayside by the time it is released - no one seems to have a pre production model in their hands for testing or such and in the meantime, they are getting trumped by companies that actually have produced a digital SLR. So although it's overpriced, I bet you'll be able to hold the E-1 in your hands at your local camera shop before you'll be able to hold the *ist-D. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062403olympuse1.asp For me overpriced - 2199$ body only... and 7999$ for 300(600)/2.8... -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Olympus 4/3 premiere
on 24.06.03 11:46, David Chang-Sang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm beginning to think that the *ist-D is going to fall by the wayside by the time it is released - no one seems to have a pre production model in their hands for testing or such and in the meantime, they are getting trumped by companies that actually have produced a digital SLR. So although it's overpriced, I bet you'll be able to hold the E-1 in your hands at your local camera shop before you'll be able to hold the *ist-D. I don't think so. not this time anyway. Dario Bonazza should have preproduction model during Pentax Day (it started 22 june). I hope we will all see his short report soon. And that's good reason, that we will see *ist D on shelves soon :-) -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Olympus 4/3 premiere
Hummm Dario whats the good word? --- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 24.06.03 11:46, David Chang-Sang at Dario Bonazza should have preproduction model during Pentax Day (it started 22 june). I hope we will all see his short report soon. And that's good reason, that we will see *ist D on shelves soon :-) -- Best Regards Sylwek __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
I second what Bob says. PC lenses were created when there was no such thing as Photoshop, for when there was a compelling reason to shoot the original on 35mm. The tilt function is more useful these days because it lets you control the orientation of the plane of focus. It's most useful in close-up situations rather than architectural scale subject matter. It's not hard to get a whole building into the DOF with a 28mm or 35mm lens, so tilt/swing is hardly needed in that cicumstance. I'm not sure if any shift/tilt lenses are available in K-mount, the Pentaxes themselves are shift only. For an alternative approach to a dedicated PC lens look at: http://www.zoerk.com/ where there are adapters to fit medium format or enlarger lenses to 35mm cameras that have tilt or shift capabilities. They're not cheap but neither are PC lenses. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] That over, use an extreme wide-angle lens, fine grained high resloution film and keep the camera level. Crop the image. Cheers, Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are serious, forget 35mm and go after a technical or view camera. I find my Horseman VHR (6X7 or 6X9), with appropriate lens, the perfect answer. Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: adphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi i am starting to do a bit off architecture work and want to add a shift lens to the arsenal my question is do i go a shift lens or a shift tilt, what is the tilt function for? thanks david
Re[2]: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
Sylwester wrote: SP Exactly. Most pros will rather choose 800$ cheaper Canon 10D despite smaller SP size of E-1. Apparently the main quality of the E system is ruggedness and weather sealing. In this light it aims towards EOS-1d and price may be justified. However, it remains to be seen what the level of performance is for AF and metering to compete successfully in this class. 3 sensors would suffice for good enough for fast and precise AF, however Olympus is hardly known for high class AF. I also doubt only 3 zones make for a reliable multi-pattern meter. And, the noise level at high ISo will be decisive for its acceptance. Servus, Alin
RE: Olympus 4/3 premiere
Giving a pre production model to a Pentaxian vs giving a pre production model to a Web or Magazine reviewer are two different things. In order for Pentax to prove itself as in the game they have to allow someone reputable from outside our little enclave to review or preview the camera. Without a review or preview by a magazine or web site, like anything else, it will be out of sight, out of mind. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Olympus 4/3 premiere I don't think so. not this time anyway. Dario Bonazza should have preproduction model during Pentax Day (it started 22 june). I hope we will all see his short report soon. And that's good reason, that we will see *ist D on shelves soon :-) -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux
Bob wrote: BW I never knew what flare was until I switched from Pentax to Contax. Didn't notice any hoods on your Zeiss lenses, either. :oT Servus, Alin
Pentax *ist D price and availability (was OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere)
Hi. Just an info (a letter to the members of the Pentax Clube) I received from the Portuguese Pentax importer (BCL): Availability: sometime in August/2003 Street price: 1.800/2.000 Euros body only (VAT included) Take care. Pedro Oliveira AOHC member nr. 246 -Mensagem original- De: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: terça-feira, 24 de Junho de 2003 10:41 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere Now if Pentax can only put a full mount in the D we'll all get one. --- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 24.06.03 10:58, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great concept but they are going to have a hard time selling this one. The price looks pretty high, the ISO is relatively low and the lenses are all pretty slow (and not as small as one would expect). Actually E-1 body is bigger and heavier by 150g than *ist D. And it has only 5 MPix... You are right - only some specialized pros will buy it (mainly for weather sealed body and lenses) -- Best Regards Sylwek __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Pentax *ist D price and availability (was OT: Olympus 4/3premiere)
on 24.06.03 13:20, Pedro Oliveira at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an info (a letter to the members of the Pentax Clube) I received from the Portuguese Pentax importer (BCL): Availability: sometime in August/2003 Street price: 1.800/2.000 Euros body only (VAT included) Hmmm... 1800 Euro. Canon 10D has street price about 1890 Euro. I hope real street price for *ist D in Europe will be slightly lower (1600-1700 Euro?) - then it will help Pentax to sell DSLR well. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
This is going to finally Kill O. Why? Priced like 6+ MP, but only 5. Built like a PJ body, but not filled in completely. Perhaps Pentax was wise to steer toward the enthusiast market. CRB *** Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:36:10 +0200 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062403olympuse1.asp For me overpriced - 2199$ body only... and 7999$ for 300(600)/2.8... -- Best Regards Sylwek *** mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
The various companies were interesting in this arena. Canon FD-mount had a tilt/shift lens. Minolta MD-mount had a lens that shifted on both axes. Pentax shifted only. IIRC, Pentax was 28mm, but C M were 35mm f/l. CRB *** Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:06:14 +1000 From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I'm not sure if any shift/tilt lenses are available in K-mount, the Pentaxes themselves are shift only. snip regards, Anthony Farr *** mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
Hi, the tilt function is for fitting the focal plane of the camera to the object plane in the case these two planes are not parallel. In effect you get extended depth of focus. The feature is most often used in landscape and macro photography but may be also usefull in architecture. In landscape you get sharpeness from the foreground to the background and in macro there is gererally much too few DOF so one has to take everything one can get (for macro one needs a tiltable bellows as Nikon had or the Zrk MFS). Cheers, Hans. --- adphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i am starting to do a bit off architecture work and want to add a shift lens to the arsenal my question is do i go a shift lens or a shift tilt, what is the tilt function for? thanks david _ 23a mail _ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get [EMAIL PROTECTED], No Ads, 6MB, IMAP, POP, SMTP more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag
MZ-S (WAS: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress)
Mike wrote: As the one who pointed the spacing issue out first, I feel obliged to note that it was a pre-production model and I was assured that the software glitch was rectified before production commenced. Anyone who had the problem with a model sold to them needs to consult their retailer... REPLY: It was fixed by a software upgrade. Pål
MZ-S (WAS: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress)
Joshua wrote: The conversion from the LX to the MZS should be no problem as you demonstrate and testify. If you look at the two cameras they are laid out in the same fashion: shutter wheel in the same spot on both bodies; compensation dial in the same spot; aperture still controlled the same... Use it in manual focus and suddenly it becomes the NEW LX everyone has been crying for, but few realize it! REPLY: This is a fact often overlooked when comparing specs. The MZ-S is designed around its interface. It is a two-handed camera providing the logical culmination of the interface started with the Asahi Pentax in 1959. The aperture is meant to be set from the body. It doesn't have two whels because this would have changed the interface and philosophy behind it. What it does is to integrate the old style interface with modern features without interfering with the basic interface. The integration between aperture priority auto and manual is particularly outstanding. It is no coincidence that these modes are what present on classic Pentaxes. I suspect, but could be wrong of course, that the MZ-S is the last gift to people using older K-mount gear in conjunction with newer AF gear. With the MZ-5/n/3 they gave us the cheap alternative. With the MZ-S they gaves us the well built expensive one. I suspect from now on Pentax may concentrate on more mainstream cameras; more like Canons. After all, they sell well. Pål
Re: Opinions needed about SMC M 35/2.8
I own the A 35/2.8, which is supposed to be the same optic. As others have pointed out, it is not a stellar lens but perfectly OK. About par with a decent zoom, something that probably explains the popularity of zoom lenses. Pål
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
Hi, there are two ARSAT (Russian) tilt/shift lens for Pentax K available: 35mm and 80mm Cheers, Hans. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The various companies were interesting in this arena. Canon FD-mount had a tilt/shift lens. Minolta MD-mount had a lens that shifted on both axes. Pentax shifted only. IIRC, Pentax was 28mm, but C M were 35mm f/l. CRB *** Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:06:14 +1000 From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I'm not sure if any shift/tilt lenses are available in K-mount, the Pentaxes themselves are shift only. snip regards, Anthony Farr *** mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _ 23a mail _ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get [EMAIL PROTECTED], No Ads, 6MB, IMAP, POP, SMTP more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag
Re: MZ-S (WAS: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress)
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suspect, but could be wrong of course, that the MZ-S is the last gift to people using older K-mount gear in conjunction with newer AF gear. With the MZ-5/n/3 they gave us the cheap alternative. With the MZ-S they gaves us the well built expensive one. I suspect from now on Pentax may concentrate on more mainstream cameras; more like Canons. After all, they sell well. Pål, I wonder if Pentax will introduce a new mount for a pro-level SLR and maintain the KAF for the consumer. The new lenses are certainley consumer optics. On the other hand, perhaps Pentax will be leaving that market in the pro-level 35mm SLRs and concentrating on their MF gear which it is well placed and well respected. At my age, I am very happy with my MF gear both K and M42. But, then again, I learned photography and the current buyers couldn't care less - all they want are good prints. Cheers, Bob Rapp
Re: Pentax *ist D price and availability (was OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere)
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 24.06.03 13:20, Pedro Oliveira at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an info (a letter to the members of the Pentax Clube) I received from the Portuguese Pentax importer (BCL): Availability: sometime in August/2003 Street price: 1.800/2.000 Euros body only (VAT included) Hmmm... 1800 Euro. Canon 10D has street price about 1890 Euro. I hope real street price for *ist D in Europe will be slightly lower (1600-1700 Euro?) - then it will help Pentax to sell DSLR well. You can be sure the Pentax DSLR will be almost exactly the same as the Canon 10D. They're expected to be on back order almost immediately. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: More ME Pictures taken on Auto
Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anyone interested -- here are more photomicrographs. Again, before each exposure I wiggled the dicey speed selection dial a bit, just to make sure. There were no bad frames this time. I used fresh chemicals for the images with numbers starting 23. I think the chemistry was getting a bit tired and old -- like me. http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/micro2 Amazing stuff! This microscopic photography is really fascinating. A couple of weeks ago I put together a Powerpoint presentation for my S.O. with a ton of her slides of various tumor cells. I found a lot of the images really stunning strictly from an esthetic standpoint. Your crystal photos impress me in a similar way. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: trivia
On June 23, 2003 10:18 pm, frank theriault wrote: Now that you mention it, I think you're right, Nick. I wonder if anyone had two or more cameras, so that one always had a camera when the used one was sent back for processing and re-loading. And, I wonder if you got back the same camera, or if they just sent back another one which was just sitting there full of fresh film, waiting to be shipped? Found this http://www.eastman.org/5_timeline/1899.htm Check out 1888. $25 for a camera. At those prices I bet few people could afford even one. 100 exposure per roll. Might take awhile to finish for most people-) Nick
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
And If you're not really serious but just shoot architecture for the fun on it, get some wide angle lenses and use photoshop to correct the, I believe it's called, parallex problems. (merging verticals). Before photoshop, shift lenses made a lot of sense. Now photoshop can do an adequate job in most situations for most of us.. Shift lenses are dman expensive... Vic In a message dated 6/24/03 2:36:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are serious, forget 35mm and go after a technical or view camera. I find my Horseman VHR (6X7 or 6X9), with appropriate lense, the perfect answer. Bob Rapp
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
On June 24, 2003 08:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And If you're not really serious but just shoot architecture for the fun on it, get some wide angle lenses and use photoshop to correct the, I believe it's called, parallex problems. (merging verticals). Before photoshop, shift lenses made a lot of sense. Now photoshop can do an adequate job in most situations for most of us.. Shift lenses are dman expensive... Shift cameras aren't. The price of even an Arsat shift lens should get you a camera and one lens if you buy used. Nick
Re: Happy Pentax to me
I bought my first Asahi Pentax Spotmatic in 1966. Still works.
Re: Too many posts!
Collin wrote: Y'all should be out shooting! REPLY: We have. The last few days I've been shooting fox puppies (incredibly cute!) and birds. I've been on montain rising through the clouds photographing mountain scenery bathed in the midnight sun. Tonight its another mountain top. Pål
Re: Pentax *ist D price and availability (was OT: Olympus 4/3premiere)
on 24.06.03 14:39, Mark Roberts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm... 1800 Euro. Canon 10D has street price about 1890 Euro. I hope real street price for *ist D in Europe will be slightly lower (1600-1700 Euro?) - then it will help Pentax to sell DSLR well. You can be sure the Pentax DSLR will be almost exactly the same as the Canon 10D. They're expected to be on back order almost immediately. So the only advantage of *ist D over EOS 10D would be size, weigth and more advanced AF. I hope that will be enough to sell enough *ist D's to convince Pentax to produce new DSLR. -- Best Regards Sylwek
OT: Olympus E-1 Preview
Already on dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/olympuse1/ -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
The purpose of tilt is focus control across the frame. This is usually unnecessary with lenses of ~28 mm or less and of excellent construction (extended flat field of focus) and moderate apertures. Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: adphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi i am starting to do a bit off architecture work and want to add a shift lens to the arsenal my question is do i go a shift lens or a shift tilt, what is the tilt function for? thanks
RE: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
-Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 24 Jun 2003 at 10:36, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062403olympuse1.asp For me overpriced - 2199$ body only... and 7999$ for 300(600)/2.8... Hmm.. Supersonic Wave Filter cleans CCD at each camera start-up (dust is shaken from CCD) tricky. No, sticky. tv
Pentax 28mm Shift Lens for Sale
Totally pristine, very sharp. A beauty. Includes original instruction booklet, which is not seen too often short of new purchase. My equipment has sold through here before with all happy buyers. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] View jpegs taken with this lens HERE: http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=38871
Re: 67 or 645??
Always an out of context, response. The original post was about medium format and landscape photography. BTW, you must have had fun focusing that rig on the ground glass. Everyone else was using a Graflex for that, but wait? Nooo... Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: John Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: Re: 67 or 645?? Graywolf wrote: My silly thought is that once you are going to put the camera on a tripod you might just as well go to large format and be done with it. That is silly, Graywolf. I remember sitting in the pressbox squashed between the back wall and a Speed Graphic sporting a 40 inch telephoto and two tripods. It was soo nice when the paper gave me a Pentax with a 500 f/5. Whew, no more cramped kidneys and backaches! God bless 35mm! To heck with the Graphics and film packs and flash bulbs and shutter timing issues and surveyor tripods - silly, silly, silly stuff.
Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux
I find the responses interesting from this point of view: I've always had faith that early SMC walloped the competition, and that therefore early K mount lenses have an advantage over the early competition. This, plus the fact that older well-made lenses have a very long life if cared for, has made buying early primes a no-brainer. But the competition has had a few decades to catch up, and Pentax apparently still has the edge. Can you imagine an ad campaign that simply compares Pentax to C*n*n and N*k*n IntoTheSun shots? Paul wrote: Hi, I have a blad and i find that the coating on my T* 80mm is not as good as my pentax primes. The coating on Leica lenses is also quite good, but not as good as SMC. Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:52:36 +0100, Bob Walkden wrote: How 'bout it folks, is SMC hype or real? I never knew what flare was until I switched from Pentax to Contax. I have to agree with Bob on this one. And I'm not kidding or exaggerating. Sure, I'd encountered point flare a couple of times when the sun was directly in the scene; I'd even try to induce it sometimes for arteestic purposes. But, until I tried a couple of cheapo third-party lenses, I'd never encountered point flare where more than one image of the aperture showed up or veiling flare. That said, I'm amazed by the flare resistance of the Zenitar 16mm f/2.8 fisheye. Which is good, because the sun's in or near the frame at least half the time with a 180* field of view. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
True, but when correcting in Photoshop, a portion of the photo is stretched and fewer pixels (per inch) are used. This loss of resolution increases along (up) the photograph in the direction of the stretch. Using a shift lens allows all the resolution of the lens to be available. The suggestion to use a view camera for architecture is the best one. I do, however, use my shift lens when taking photos of multi story homes for a real estate friend. She might actually be content with distortion but I'm not. She just wants the photos and I don't want to spend the time scanning and adjusting the photos. The shift lens eliminates a lot of work here. Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] I second what Bob says. PC lenses were created when there was no such thing as Photoshop, for when there was a compelling reason to shoot the original on 35mm. The tilt function is more useful these days because it lets you control the orientation of the plane of focus. It's most useful in close-up situations rather than architectural scale subject matter. It's not hard to get a whole building into the DOF with a 28mm or 35mm lens, so tilt/swing is hardly needed in that cicumstance. I'm not sure if any shift/tilt lenses are available in K-mount, the Pentaxes themselves are shift only. For an alternative approach to a dedicated PC lens look at: http://www.zoerk.com/ where there are adapters to fit medium format or enlarger lenses to 35mm cameras that have tilt or shift capabilities. They're not cheap but neither are PC lenses. From: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] That over, use an extreme wide-angle lens, fine grained high resloution film and keep the camera level. Crop the image. From: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are serious, forget 35mm and go after a technical or view camera. I find my Horseman VHR (6X7 or 6X9), with appropriate lens, the perfect answer. From: adphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi i am starting to do a bit off architecture work and want to add a shift lens to the arsenal my question is do i go a shift lens or a shift tilt, what is the tilt function for? thanks david
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt lens????
It's caused perspective problems. For this reason, shift lenses are also called perspective control lenses. Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And If you're not really serious but just shoot architecture for the fun on it, get some wide angle lenses and use photoshop to correct the, I believe it's called, parallex problems. (merging verticals). Before photoshop, shift lenses made a lot of sense. Now photoshop can do an adequate job in most situations for most of us.. Shift lenses are dman expensive... Vic In a message dated 6/24/03 2:36:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are serious, forget 35mm and go after a technical or view camera. I find my Horseman VHR (6X7 or 6X9), with appropriate lense, the perfect answer.
Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
Where I find 100mm too long is shooting something like a wedding reception, which I've done 3 times now. Inside, there is a significant chance that some guest will pop into the foreground. Outside, the 100 works well. I just shot a wedding this weekend, and slapped on the A35-70mm f4 because the M100 f2.8 was giving me this problem. The tradeoff was that the A zoom was much harder to focus. So, of course, I need a fast 85mm lens. Fred wrote: Hi, Carlos. Probably the M 85 mm. f:2 is an excellent choice for portraits. The M 85/2 is a pretty good portrait lens, despite its unpretentious seeming design, and is the most economical Pentax K-mount 85. The lens I use the most for portraits is a K 85 mm. 1.8 and I love it. [and] The only problem about the K 85 mm. 1.8 is that it's scarce nowadays and consequently somewhat expensive, if you happen to find one in good condition. The K 85/1.8 is a really fine lens for portraits, but has gotten ~very~ expensive to obtain. In the field of expensive 85's, it's a best buy... I also have a K 105 mm. 2.8, but I also think it is a bit long for that kind of work. The K 105/2.8 is fine, if it's not too long for the situation, and if you watch out for its bokeh. Actually, I usually wouldn't find 105mm too long, and I often use a 135mm lens for portraits. (The limiting factor is often the available space - the 135mm FL gets might long feeling if the room is small. Fred has a comparison test in his web page about several 85 mm. Pentax lenses. I found it very useful when I was trying to decide which 85 I should buy. http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/85compar/ My favorite 85's are the A* and the FA* 85/1.4's. (I also like suing the Tokina AT-X 60-120/2.8 when a zoom fits the situation...) Fred
Re: Happy Pentax to me
I got my first camera back in '43, I had been reading about what Daqgurre and Tabot were doing and thought I would try it my self. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: Re: Happy Pentax to me I bought my first Asahi Pentax Spotmatic in 1966. Still works.
Re: More ME Pictures taken on Auto
I agree with Mark. Nifty shots. Don, have you ever done a butterfly wing? I can still remember looking at one through a microscope (grad student, Biology) and being amazed at the patterns and colors. Mark Roberts wrote: Amazing stuff! This microscopic photography is really fascinating. A couple of weeks ago I put together a Powerpoint presentation for my S.O. with a ton of her slides of various tumor cells. I found a lot of the images really stunning strictly from an esthetic standpoint. Your crystal photos impress me in a similar way.
RE: Too many posts!
Collin wrote: Y'all should be out shooting! REPLY: We have. The last few days I've been shooting fox puppies (incredibly cute!) and birds. I've been on montain rising through the clouds photographing mountain scenery bathed in the midnight sun. Tonight its another mountain top. Pål Where are you? Are you shooting for gain or pleasure? Ziggy
RE: Pentax *ist D price and availability (was OT: Olympus 4/3premiere)
on 24.06.03 14:39, Mark Roberts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm... 1800 Euro. Canon 10D has street price about 1890 Euro. I hope real street price for *ist D in Europe will be slightly lower (1600-1700 Euro?) - then it will help Pentax to sell DSLR well. You can be sure the Pentax DSLR will be almost exactly the same as the Canon 10D. They're expected to be on back order almost immediately. So the only advantage of *ist D over EOS 10D would be size, weigth and more advanced AF. I hope that will be enough to sell enough *ist D's to convince Pentax to produce new DSLR. -- Best Regards Sylwek Pentax UK have told me that availability in Europe and UK will be late August and price will be in the range 1000 GBP to 1500 GBP. Watch this space.. Ziggy
Re: Too many posts!
zoomshot wrote: Where are you? Are you shooting for gain or pleasure? Yes! I gain pleasure from shooting :-) -- Later, Gary
Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
Hi I own both the 2.0/85 and the 2.8/105. Nither of them are very good (sharpness/resolution) and I hardly ever use them. I guess my best portrait lenses are Tokina Pro II 2.6-2.8/28-70mm (sharp) and the latest (repurchased recently - off ebay/USA) the K2.5/135mm. Regards Jens
Re: OT: trivia
Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My previous boss liked to say, there is no word that can't be verbed In the long-gone-but-very-much-missed Calvin and Hobbes comic strip, Calvin once observed verbing weirds language. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
OT: No digital trickery here!
I swear to God, this *photograph* has not been manipulated other than Curves adjustment, Unsharp Mask, and a slight crop... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/grabs/images/pic19.html It came straight over the top of our house and landed in a field the other side. In this shot, they are about 1/3 to a half a mile away, and I would guess about a couple of hundred feet this side of the pylon (they went a bit lower and were obviously this side of it). Talk about the decisive moment! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have problems trying to imagine Pentax running an ad campaign. !8^D Good one, Bruce! Who knows, maybe many will find themselves having to agree w/ you on this one, despite their preconceptions. ;^) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: OT: Olympus E-1 Preview
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Alin Flaider wrote: Extremely well built, great ergonomics but guess what? Underfeatured and damn too expensive. It's aimed at pro but will be tested against EOS-1D, D100, etc. Sounds familiar? Yeah, I expect the MZ-S naysayers to dismiss E1 too. BTW, did I say it's great looking? Obviously a return to curves and stylish look after the klingonian E20. Yeah, it looks nice. And they announced consumer body (consumer priced I think) for next year... could be great. More DSLR = lower prices, lower prices, lower prices ;-) -- Best regards Sylwester
Re: No digital trickery here!
mine's not so dramatic but http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/NewThings/Whites-11-2001/Whites-i0017.htm. click on image to get a larger view. Herb - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 16:38 Subject: OT: No digital trickery here! I swear to God, this *photograph* has not been manipulated other than Curves adjustment, Unsharp Mask, and a slight crop... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/grabs/images/pic19.html It came straight over the top of our house and landed in a field the other side. In this shot, they are about 1/3 to a half a mile away, and I would guess about a couple of hundred feet this side of the pylon (they went a bit lower and were obviously this side of it). Talk about the decisive moment!
Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
Where I find 100mm too long is shooting something like a wedding reception, which I've done 3 times now. Inside, there is a significant chance that some guest will pop into the foreground. Outside, the 100 works well. I just shot a wedding this weekend, and slapped on the A35-70mm f4 because the M100 f2.8 was giving me this problem. The tradeoff was that the A zoom was much harder to focus. So, of course, I need a fast 85mm lens. Perhaps the latest Tamron SP 28-75/2.8 is the solution? http://www.tamron.com/di.htm regards, Alan Chan _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: No digital trickery here!
Well, Cotty, you are going to have to learn to pay more attention to your backgrounds. That balloon looks like it is growing out of the top of a powerline pylon GRIN. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:38 PM Subject: OT: No digital trickery here! I swear to God, this *photograph* has not been manipulated other than Curves adjustment, Unsharp Mask, and a slight crop... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/grabs/images/pic19.html It came straight over the top of our house and landed in a field the other side. In this shot, they are about 1/3 to a half a mile away, and I would guess about a couple of hundred feet this side of the pylon (they went a bit lower and were obviously this side of it). Talk about the decisive moment! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT:Flexable arm
Sounds like something from novoflex, but I don't see it on their site. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: OT:Flexable arm Just after i joined the PDML in early 2001,someone mentioned a link( or maybe it was in a magazine add) to a flex arm thet was used for macro photos. It was basically two alligator type clips at the ends and the arm was black plastic material that could bend any which way,like a french curve,but not as thick. One end was attached to your tripod and the other could be bent to attach to the subject to keep it still and out of the shot. Anyone still have the link??Or name of the product. Or an idea were that material can be bought.The clips can be had at Radio Shack. I did some macro this past weekend and wind was a major problem,waiting for the flower to stop moving around. Thanks Brother Dave
Re: Happy Pentax to me
LOL well, I always wanted to have a big brother *g* On 23 Jun 2003 at 23:39, Feroze Kistan wrote: My baby sister? Katrin Wrote: what should I fee like...? I wasn't even planned in 1971 ^_- I was born in 1977 well, I bought me first Pentax (a ME) about 5 years ago when I got some lenses that my Dad kept when his ME was beyoned repair ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt len
thanks for the replies these are the 3 i have found on ebay and i take it from the respnses that the 80mm would be the best to have tilt with am i correct or would the 35mm be the better one?? i see canon has a tilt shift 24mm what would tht be good for? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2936967248 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935920753 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935921300 and a simple shift lens http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935725782
Re: OT: No digital trickery here!
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/grabs/images/pic19.html Nice catch, Cotty. self portrait? smirk Pretty cool. I didn't know what to expect after your subject line. Would've been great for last December's Juxtaposition gallery in the PUG. Did it come together like that in your mind when you were taking the photo?... wait... don't answer that. It'll just ruin it. Thanks for sharing.
Re: Happy Pentax to me
I can see this, in 20 years time we'll be reminiscing on the good old days of the MZS, and all the kids on the PDML will be making fun of us because we had to wait a whole hour to get our prints back because we didn't have a DSLR- oh, wait Canon user are making fun of us right now:) Feroze - Original Message - From: Katrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:50 PM Subject: Re: Happy Pentax to me LOL well, I always wanted to have a big brother *g* On 23 Jun 2003 at 23:39, Feroze Kistan wrote: My baby sister? Katrin Wrote: what should I fee like...? I wasn't even planned in 1971 ^_- I was born in 1977 well, I bought me first Pentax (a ME) about 5 years ago when I got some lenses that my Dad kept when his ME was beyoned repair ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
Re: OT: No digital trickery here!
By the way... Talk about the decisive moment! no, no, no... THIS! is the decisive moment: http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/grabs/images/pic15.html
A 50/1.7 lens
Hi Guys; Was there a thread about the A 50/1.7 having a mechanical problem? if so what was it? I just won an e-bay auction for one. Also, how does it compare optically to the M 50/1.4? BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Demian)
Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux
Pentax does advertise, you just have to look for it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3135753661category=1190 HTH Feroze - Original Message - From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have problems trying to imagine Pentax running an ad campaign. !8^D Good one, Bruce! Who knows, maybe many will find themselves having to agree w/ you on this one, despite their preconceptions. ;^) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: OT: No digital trickery here!
Thanks Greywolf ;-) Thanks Jerome - knee in the nuts notwithstanding... Thanks Herb - I like the contrail/moon - boy does that look cold. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE:OT: No digital trickery here!
Great shot Cotty. But why do I have the feeling the pilot and any passengers on board needed a change of underwear after they landed? VBG BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Demian)
Re: OT:Flexable arm
I think Delta (Delta 1?) makes something like that. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Demian)
Re: OT:Flexable arm
On 24 Jun 2003 at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just after i joined the PDML in early 2001,someone mentioned a link( or maybe it was in a magazine add) to a flex arm thet was used for macro photos. Yo Bro, It was me and the clamp was the Wimberley http://www.tripodhead.com/plamp.html I've yet to get one, it looks like it would do the trick even though it looks easy to home assemble however I think you'd be better off forking out the cash. Look carefully, it's got a good finish, nice rounded edges etc so it won't catch on other gear in your bag etc. If you get one I'd love to hear how it works out. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Happy Pentax to me
Zeiss Ikon Contiina - 1956, 1959 a folding 35mm Voightlander rangefinder - forgot the model, 1969 Asahi Pentax Spotmatic - $89 from Nam. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Happy Pentax to me Bob Rapp wrote: Mere Lads? First camera Zeiss Contessa 1959 - still have - wonky. First Pentax 1967 SP - still have - restored to perfect condition and Intersting thread. First camera: Plastic box camera from the photo store on the corner, circa 1957. Still have some pics I shot with it. First 35mm camera: Nikon SP2 rangefinder. Wish I still had it. Loaned it to my brother. He lost it in an airport :-(. First Pentax: H3v with the accessory shoe mounted meter. Still have it. Still takes great photographs.
Re: A 50/1.7 lens
Look for a thread entitled 50mm Lenses. It started sometime on or before 30th May . regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Guys; Was there a thread about the A 50/1.7 having a mechanical problem? if so what was it? I just won an e-bay auction for one. Also, how does it compare optically to the M 50/1.4? BUTCH
OT, and Very Silly
It's just a raw scan from a contact, so of course it's blurry. I think, however, that the next TOPDML should meet there: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1573263size=lg As it turns out, three of us met on the weekend (Jeff, Dave CS and I), and there wasn't a Pentax in sight. Does that say something? We were at the Toronto Jazz Downtown Jazz Fest, and Jeff got the most questions/comments about his camera of the day, his Fuji 690, especially when he put on the 180mm lens - that's a very big combo, but quite impressive. He took a pic of the Texax Leica next to my little CL. It should be a hoot to look at, as his thing is monstrous next to mine! (GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GUTTERS, I'M TALKING CAMERAS HERE! G) cheers, frank -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
RE: A 50/1.7 lens
I received one as part of a Super Program I won recently on eBay. You probably outbid me at the wire over the weekend on this one. The reason I bid on it is the one that came with the camera seemed unwilling to close down further than f11. Finally through some combination of moves I got it to move to A and it works well there. I think I had removed it and then put it back on and held the button down right from the start. Now I'm afraid to move it but will have to eventually when I need to control the aperture myself. Hopefully there is some trick some one can pass on. -Original Message- From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 18:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A 50/1.7 lens Hi Guys; Was there a thread about the A 50/1.7 having a mechanical problem? if so what was it? I just won an e-bay auction for one. Also, how does it compare optically to the M 50/1.4? BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Demian)
Re: Happy Pentax to me
Are we playing a game? I haven't really been watching this thread. First cameras and first Pentax? Sadly, I only came into the Pentax fold fairly recently... First camera: Kodak Brownie Starflash, probably around 1964. Still at Mom's place. First 35mm: can't remember, Japanese match-needle metered rangefinder, 40mm 2.8 lens, circa 1969 or 70. First 35mm slr: Praktica LTL (I think) - I wanted a Spottie, but couldn't afford one, so I specifically got an m42, so I could make the switch some day, circa 1971. First Pentax: SP500, about 1997 regards, frank Kenneth Waller wrote: Zeiss Ikon Contiina - 1956, 1959 a folding 35mm Voightlander rangefinder - forgot the model, 1969 Asahi Pentax Spotmatic - $89 from Nam. Kenneth Waller -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
Re: shift lens or shift and tilt len
Whether you opt for a wide or a tele lens is entirely a matter of your dominant subject matter. There are as many landscape situations suited to tele as to wide, but perhaps the wide is called for slightly more often. Architecture is best done with the widest lens you can use (to get in front of as many distractions as possible). Still life is best done with a short tele. Kievcamera and Hartblei are respectable companies trading in USA. Getting a medium format lens with a K adapter then gives you an upgrade path if you don't yet have a medium format camera. 45mm on a 645 is about equal to 28mm on 35mm, of course on a 35mm ~it is~ 45mm and you have to consider if that suits you. The usuall caveat of using a medium format lens on 35mm applies, but many people believe that you'd be using the sweet spot of the lens and losing the peripheral aberrations in which case you're no worse off. grizzly33bear is located in Kiev so the usual warnings apply, but his feedback looks good and also looks genuine (to my uncritical eye). But why don't you also contact Kievcamera about the ARSAT lenses for 35mm and see what he's offering. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: adphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks for the replies these are the 3 i have found on ebay and i take it from the respnses that the 80mm would be the best to have tilt with am i correct or would the 35mm be the better one?? i see canon has a tilt shift 24mm what would tht be good for? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2936967248 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935920753 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935921300 and a simple shift lens http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935725782
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
Hi Jens, as I have written before, I have done my own resolution etc. tests of portrait lenses: See http://www.arnoldstark.de/pentax.htm Here are the results in line pairs/mm averaged from f2 to f11 and from centre to corner: M85 65 K85 61 A*85 62 FA*8566 FA77 69 My test may not be perfect, but if so then my results could only be worse (not better) than the real performance of the lenses. So, at the tested magnification, the M85/f2 is no dog at all with respect to resolution. Also, my experience confirms that the lens is sharp at mid apertures. It may be worse at infinity. As Yoshihiko did not measure at infinty either, Arnold about 85/2: I can explain his low resolution numbers only by guessing that he had a bad sample. Or you had a better than average sample. Are there other tests available (Pop Ph, Mod Ph etc.) ? Andre --
Re: OT: No digital trickery here!
the crampons and ice gave more trouble than the cold. 8-) Herb - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 18:50 Subject: Re: OT: No digital trickery here! Thanks Herb - I like the contrail/moon - boy does that look cold.
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
No matter how good the sample is, it simply cannot exceed the performance that its designers bestowed on it. The 'on-paper' design is the best it can be, manufacturing tolerances or wear-and-tear will always move the lens to a lower performance level. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) Arnold about 85/2: I can explain his low resolution numbers only by guessing that he had a bad sample. Or you had a better than average sample. (snip)
Re: Too many posts!
Collin wrote: Y'all should be out shooting! I was. I shot some clothing for a high end woman's boutique. The model was a drop-dead gorgeous 23 year old. And she knew how to work the camera. I had to shoot in the store, which had a black ceiling, so it was a challenge. Lots of direct light. I used two strobes with relectors along with two blue tungsten lights for the hair light and background light. I decided to go with some shadows since I was never going to drown them out in that kind of room. But it worked well. I'll post a few soon. Paul
Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux
- Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan Subject: Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux Pentax does advertise, you just have to look for it: Kind of counter productive if you have to look for it. William Robb
Pentax advertising (was Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux)
William Robb wrote: Pentax does advertise, you just have to look for it: Kind of counter productive if you have to look for it. Advertising is not the issue. I haven't seen a Canon or Nikon campaign either during the past months. The issue is the availability of gear on the shops shelves. Here Pentax is represented by the MZ-60, MZ-6 and three standard zooms. If I want to investigate lets say a FA 135/2.8, I have to ask on PDML what are your opinions on this lens. After a range of conflicting answers, I'm not any wiser, and the only thing I can do is to mail order it. And live with it, like it or not. Compare this with C/N - except the big beasts (300/2.8 etc), I can personally check all the lenses, play with them, mount them on a camera, even put a roll of film through it and check home the results, and decide if I like them or not. As far as I'm concerned the Pentax offer is exactly what they have in the shops. cheers, caveman
RE: A 50/1.7 lens
Sounds like the 'A' springs underneath the aperture ring is broken off. You can remove them for good if you like. Just set the aperture to 'A' before you start to strip down the lens will do. Watch for the beaing to jump off. regards, Alan Chan I received one as part of a Super Program I won recently on eBay. You probably outbid me at the wire over the weekend on this one. The reason I bid on it is the one that came with the camera seemed unwilling to close down further than f11. Finally through some combination of moves I got it to move to A and it works well there. I think I had removed it and then put it back on and held the button down right from the start. Now I'm afraid to move it but will have to eventually when I need to control the aperture myself. Hopefully there is some trick some one can pass on. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
