Re: twowhoohoos
WOOHOO Mark :-) --- Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I gotta say it was a good day - > > Looked at the mail and found the current edition of > American Entomologist, > sporting one of my monarch shots on the cover. This > is my second cover shot > with them this year, after I sent them several > photos last winter. It was a > bit of a surprise, but a nice one: > > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/ae.jpg > > This evening I went to the photography competition > into which I had entered > my first pano try. Both of my shots were juried into > the show. The pano did > not win an award, but my non-pano took first place. > That was this shot: > > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/k_river.jpg > > People spent more time looking at the pano than the > other shot - I think > there is a gimmick effect going on there. Though > another photographer from > Saugatuck entered three panos (printed on the 4 inch > Epson roll paper) that > looked pretty good. > > I got a modest cash prize and spent some time > hanging out with folks from > all the local green groups who were sponsoring the > exhibit. > > I gotta say it was a good day... > > (that song has been buzzing in my head the last few > hours.) > > - MCC > > > - > Mark Cassino > Kalamazoo, MI > - > > Photography: > > http://www.markcassino.com > > > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: twowhoohoos
I hate you. ;) At 09:48 PM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: I gotta say it was a good day - Looked at the mail and found the current edition of American Entomologist, sporting one of my monarch shots on the cover. This is my second cover shot with them this year, after I sent them several photos last winter. It was a bit of a surprise, but a nice one: http://www.markcassino.com/temp/ae.jpg This evening I went to the photography competition into which I had entered my first pano try. Both of my shots were juried into the show. The pano did not win an award, but my non-pano took first place. That was this shot: http://www.markcassino.com/temp/k_river.jpg People spent more time looking at the pano than the other shot - I think there is a gimmick effect going on there. Though another photographer from Saugatuck entered three panos (printed on the 4 inch Epson roll paper) that looked pretty good. I got a modest cash prize and spent some time hanging out with folks from all the local green groups who were sponsoring the exhibit. I gotta say it was a good day... (that song has been buzzing in my head the last few hours.) - MCC - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI - Photography: http://www.markcassino.com I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around
Not sure mate, but Chris said I'm 5th so far (presumably the first Aus resident on the list) and he'll let me know when there are 10.. I suppose you could let him know if you're interested in the original pass around (or til 8 Aus residents interested in a local pass around holler out?) Rgds, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When is this likely to happen? > > I was wondering how many other blokes or sheilas in OZ would be in on > it? > > Hooroo. > Regards, Trevor > > -Original Message- > From: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Greetings all, > > Heya Trevor, That might be a good idea actually.. Think we could make > the numbers? Anyone interested? Even if we don't gather enough roos, I > suppose if Chris gets the names (and locations) of everyone interested, > the lens could make it's way around with the least travel.. e.g. US US > US US US Aus Aus Aus Aus US, with Aus residents maybe splitting the > Aus-US US Aus excess? (I suppose it's up to Chris) Of course if we find > 10 parties here in Aus, it'd be less of an issue.. > > Trev: Is your name down for the current passaround? > Chris: What say you? > > Cheers, > Ryan > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Trevor Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:11 AM > Subject: RE: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > G'day All. > > > > Ryan. Mate, Maybe we could do a aussie pass around? Maybe the > > passaround could be done continent by continent... Hooroo. > > Regards, > > Trevor > > Grafton, N.S.W. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 2:56 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > > > About 30 seconds of thought, actually. :) > > > > Well, since we're having difficulty getting 10 people, you're welcome > > to take part, provided you reimburse the person who ships it to you > > for the difference between international and domestic shipping. > > > > Off to work now, > > > > chris > > > > > > > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote: > > > > > Sounds like a wonderful idea Chris.. I'd pay $25 bucks for it.. pity > > > > I'm in Australia and thus am not eligible though.. > > > > > > Rgds, > > > Ryan > > > > > > PS. I'm amazed by how much thought went into it! > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:12 AM > > > Subject: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's the info again, since some people missed it the first time. > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to gauge the interest in this, so let me know what you > > > > think. Here's the idea... > > > > > > > > Assuming that enough people are interested to make it worthwhile, > > > > I'll buy one of the new Pentax FAJ 18-35mm f4-5.6 AL zoom lenses. > > > > This is the lens designed for the *istD, but it also works > > > > perfectly--as a true 18-35mm lens--on Pentax film bodies as well. > > > > NOTE: This lens has no aperture ring, and so it will only stop > > > > down on Pentax cameras that set the aperture from the body and not > > > > > the lens. > > > > > > > > Every person who signs up to try out the lens and is approved will > > > > > have the lens to try for a week before passing it on to the next > > > > person on the list. To cover the cost of the lens and shipping, > > > > I'll need a $25.00 US ($35.00 CAN) payment from every person > > > > interested in trying this lens for a week. I'm not trying to make > > > > > money from this, but I don't want to lose any, either. We'll need > > > > > 10 people to make this viable. I have no idea how many people > > > > will want to try this lens out. If we don't get 10, I can't > > > > afford to go > > > > > > through with it. If we get more then 10, then the pass-around > > > > will be limited to the first 10 people who signed up. > > > > > > > > Now here's the good part. After the 10 people have each had a > > > > week to play with the lens, the last person will ship it back to > > > > me. We'll have a random selection process, and one person out of > > > > the 10 (I won't be > > > > eligible) will win the lens. I'll pay for shipping the lens to > > > > the > > first > > > > person on the list and to the winner, but I ask that everyone who > > > > participates pay for INSURED, TRACKABLE shipping to the next > > > > person > > on the > > > > list. Please insure it for $250 US/$350 CAN. So, for the price > > > > of > > $25.00 > > > > US plus shipping, you get to try out a new and funky lens for a > > week, and > > > > get a 1/10 chance to win it. > > > > > > > > To minimize the risk inherent in this, only PDMLers in Canada and > > > > the U.S. will be eligible. You can reply to this message on the > > > > PDML if you're interested
Re: OT:Panasonic DMC-FZ1 Aperture ring! Shutter speed dial!! And MORE !!! :-)
Leica sells this model under their name as well, I bet it costs more... At 02:20 PM 10/3/03 -0700, you wrote: Plus, a Leica lens. Jim A. > From: Thomas Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:54:59 -0700 > To: "Pentax Discuss (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: OT:Panasonic DMC-FZ1 Aperture ring! Shutter speed dial!! And MORE !!! > :-) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:38:11 -0400 > > Hey folks, > > Here's a nice looking digi-cam! Manual zoom ring on lens. Manual focus ring > on lens! Aperture ring on lens!! Shutter speed dial on top!!! Oh my GOD, who > would have thought of such innovations on a modern digital camera huh? > Obviously not Penaw never mind. > > site address: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_440.html > > Maybe I'll wait for a bit before I purchase my next camera, eh? This one > looks sweet! > > (By the way, my brother's 10D is awesome! This digital stuff is fun!) > > - THaller > I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: OT: Sex vs Gender
Or subtracted as the case may be. At 04:14 PM 10/3/03 -0500, you wrote: I have a good friend who lays claim to having coined the usage of 'gender' rather than sex in this type of terminology. She is a feminist psychologist (field being the psychology of women) and needed a term for some of her papers and texts. This gives us something to argue over. Half a century ago, we were both taught that sex refers to the male vs female of a species and that gender is a gramatical term. After a few drinks, she will often agree with me, but still be proud of having added something to English usage. Larry > > Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:26:22 -0400 > From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > I've been told by some of my social scientist friends that the correct > term is "sex", i.e., the answer to "are you amle or female?". Evidently > sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the > psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the > sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable. > At least this was the answer I got when I suggested we use the word > "gender" on a survey. If memory serves, I made some sophomoric joke as > a reply. ;-) > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/02/03 11:11PM >>> > You're taking all of the sophomoric fun out of this list. > > At 10:21 PM 9/30/03 -0500, you wrote: > >Its better to use the word "gender" if your trying to avoid the > juvenile > >responses to the "sex" question I have found. > > > > > > > >Simon King wrote: > >>I'd be interested in seeing what the breakdown of the PDML is by, > say; > >>Sex, age, country, annual income, special interests etc. > >>Might throw up some surprises or challenge some assumptions. > >>Cheers, > >>Simon > >> > >> > >>PS - if anyone makes a joke about the "sex" question it'll just > prove how > >>many schoolboys are on the list. > >> > >>-Original Message- > >>From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 > >>September 2003 8:00 AM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D > >> > >>- Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" Subject: Re: I > > >>haven't got *Ist D > >> > >> > >>>Wow. I would have thought it was smaller. Hard to believe that > many > >>>folks think all of this is intersting ;-) > >> > >>Thats out of how many billions of people on this ball of dirt? > >> > >>William Robb > >> > >> > > > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > -- I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: Super Program winding tightly
My first MX began doing this after about 20 years, a CLA cleared the problem right up. At 04:51 PM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: The last few times I've used my Super Program, it seemed that it wound the film awfully tight, making it difficult to advance the film. It didn't do this when I first got the camera. Is there anything I can do to prevent this or do I need to take it for a CLA? Thanks, Amita I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: Winder MX, problem ?
AFIK the behavior you describe is correct. Lon is wrong. At 04:29 PM 10/3/03 +0200, you wrote: Lon Williamson a écrit: Here's how the MX winder works with my MXen: a) Winder off, camera off: no metering when winder release is pressed. b) Winder off, camera on: no metering when winder release is pressed. c) Winder on, camera off: metering when winder release pressed. d) Winder on, camera on: metering when winder release is pressed. Ideally, only d) would activate the meter. Moral to this story: turn winder and camera off when storing. So work my Winder ME-II with the SuperA (Super Programm). But the MX metering when winder release is pressed in all a,b,c,d setings!!, and the same for an other French Pentaxiste. Theres is various relaese off Winder MX ?? Michel I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
RE: twowhoohoos
Congratulations Mark, Both are excellent shots. I may regret asking this but was river shot on 35mm, MF or digital? (I'm guessing MF) Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: *ist D and the 1 gigabyte card
- Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: *ist D and the 1 gigabyte card > > > The ist D supports a 1 gb card, saying it will store 70 RAW files, 56 full > > resolution tiffs. It will do smaller than full resolution tiffs also, 87 > > medium resolution (2400x1600) or 512 small (1536x1024). > > Something seems wrong with those figures. Only 56 full-resolution (6MP) TIFFs, > and yet it has room for 512 small (1.5MP) TIFFs? Should that perhaps be 212? Weird typo. That would be, in fact, 209, according to the camera. William Robb
Re: Winder MX, problem ?
Lon Williamson a écrit: Here's how the MX winder works with my MXen: a) Winder off, camera off: no metering when winder release is pressed. b) Winder off, camera on: no metering when winder release is pressed. c) Winder on, camera off: metering when winder release pressed. d) Winder on, camera on: metering when winder release is pressed. Ideally, only d) would activate the meter. Moral to this story: turn winder and camera off when storing. So work my Winder ME-II with the SuperA (Super Programm). But the MX metering when winder release is pressed in all a,b,c,d setings!!, and the same for an other French Pentaxiste. Theres is various relaese off Winder MX ?? Michel
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
Hydrazine will kill you in incredibly small amounts. At 09:15 AM 10/3/03 -0600, you wrote: This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. One of the planes that we (at NOAA) have had the good fortune to fly our instruments on is the NASA ER-2 (essentially a U2 "R" model with less sophisticated electronics). The ground crews that look after these planes at Dryden Flight Research Center (Edwards AFB in CA) were, a few years ago but no longer, Lockheed Martin contractors. A number of the ground crew members had previously served on SR-71 ground crews. It is absolutely true that the SR-71 leaked like a sieve until it was airborne. It would refuel in air immediately after takeoff, which is common for a number of modern aircraft as well. One of the ground crew told me that he had seen pictures taken by the pilots in flight of the nose section glowing red when the plane was at full speed. The compound used to relight the engines at altitude in an emergency on the ER-2 (and U2) is hydrazine. A safety briefing is necessary every time you visit Dryden to work, and being aware of the alarm that sounds in the event of a hydrazine leak is one of the things they caution you about. It's a nasty agent. I wouldn't be surprised if it is hydrazine used on the SR-71 as well. Peter I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: Professions and the PUG
Please Ann, this is a family list. (Not that I didn't consider it). At 09:35 AM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: Was kinda surprised there were no shots of world's oldest... Nobody live in Vegas or Amsterdam?? :) annsan - feeling silly this morning I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
It's always fun to answer Yes, to the question "Are you male of female". At 09:22 AM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: In the 2000 US Census, "Sex" is defined as "Based on self-reporting of gender." I guess that gave people some flexibility in their answer? :-) --jc On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 08:26 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: ...Evidently sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable. At least this was the answer I got when I suggested we use the word "gender" on a survey I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: Winder MX, problem ?
That's not how the manual says it should work, or for that matter the way either of my winders works on any of my MX's. Camera or Winder off or on press halfway down on the Winder release and the meter turns on. At 08:30 AM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: Here's how the MX winder works with my MXen: a) Winder off, camera off: no metering when winder release is pressed. b) Winder off, camera on: no metering when winder release is pressed. c) Winder on, camera off: metering when winder release pressed. d) Winder on, camera on: metering when winder release is pressed. Ideally, only d) would activate the meter. Moral to this story: turn winder and camera off when storing. -Lon Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Jose R. Rodriguez a écrit: Michel, This is how two different MX Winders have operated with my MX camera. So, I suspect it is normal... Normal ? It's a major risk to drain battery ! The Winder ME II don't do this. Michel I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
RE: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around
G'day Ryan. Mate, Not yet. When is this likely to happen? I was wondering how many other blokes or sheilas in OZ would be in on it? Hooroo. Regards, Trevor -Original Message- From: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 4 October 2003 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around Greetings all, Heya Trevor, That might be a good idea actually.. Think we could make the numbers? Anyone interested? Even if we don't gather enough roos, I suppose if Chris gets the names (and locations) of everyone interested, the lens could make it's way around with the least travel.. e.g. US US US US US Aus Aus Aus Aus US, with Aus residents maybe splitting the Aus-US US Aus excess? (I suppose it's up to Chris) Of course if we find 10 parties here in Aus, it'd be less of an issue.. Trev: Is your name down for the current passaround? Chris: What say you? Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > G'day All. > > Ryan. Mate, Maybe we could do a aussie pass around? Maybe the > passaround could be done continent by continent... Hooroo. > Regards, > Trevor > Grafton, N.S.W. > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 2:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > About 30 seconds of thought, actually. :) > > Well, since we're having difficulty getting 10 people, you're welcome > to take part, provided you reimburse the person who ships it to you > for the difference between international and domestic shipping. > > Off to work now, > > chris > > > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote: > > > Sounds like a wonderful idea Chris.. I'd pay $25 bucks for it.. pity > > I'm in Australia and thus am not eligible though.. > > > > Rgds, > > Ryan > > > > PS. I'm amazed by how much thought went into it! > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:12 AM > > Subject: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > > > > > Here's the info again, since some people missed it the first time. > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to gauge the interest in this, so let me know what you > > > think. Here's the idea... > > > > > > Assuming that enough people are interested to make it worthwhile, > > > I'll buy one of the new Pentax FAJ 18-35mm f4-5.6 AL zoom lenses. > > > This is the lens designed for the *istD, but it also works > > > perfectly--as a true 18-35mm lens--on Pentax film bodies as well. > > > NOTE: This lens has no aperture ring, and so it will only stop > > > down on Pentax cameras that set the aperture from the body and not > > > the lens. > > > > > > Every person who signs up to try out the lens and is approved will > > > have the lens to try for a week before passing it on to the next > > > person on the list. To cover the cost of the lens and shipping, > > > I'll need a $25.00 US ($35.00 CAN) payment from every person > > > interested in trying this lens for a week. I'm not trying to make > > > money from this, but I don't want to lose any, either. We'll need > > > 10 people to make this viable. I have no idea how many people > > > will want to try this lens out. If we don't get 10, I can't > > > afford to go > > > > through with it. If we get more then 10, then the pass-around > > > will be limited to the first 10 people who signed up. > > > > > > Now here's the good part. After the 10 people have each had a > > > week to play with the lens, the last person will ship it back to > > > me. We'll have a random selection process, and one person out of > > > the 10 (I won't be > > > eligible) will win the lens. I'll pay for shipping the lens to > > > the > first > > > person on the list and to the winner, but I ask that everyone who > > > participates pay for INSURED, TRACKABLE shipping to the next > > > person > on the > > > list. Please insure it for $250 US/$350 CAN. So, for the price > > > of > $25.00 > > > US plus shipping, you get to try out a new and funky lens for a > week, and > > > get a 1/10 chance to win it. > > > > > > To minimize the risk inherent in this, only PDMLers in Canada and > > > the U.S. will be eligible. You can reply to this message on the > > > PDML if you're interested in participating, and I'll send you an > > > off-list reply to let you know if you can. I don't want to be too > > > restrictive, but I'd prefer to limit this either to people I know > > > from my time here, or people who have a decent posting history. > > > If I recognize your name or can find some posts from you in the > > > archives, that'll be fine, but if you just joined yesterday it'll > > > be > > > > harder, unless you have a good eBay feedback ratin
Re: Words (was -- Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D)
Odd. I'm "abused" by the existence of the word "cretin" but make no move to eliminate it from the dictionary. In the PC movement there's no protection for the Christian. It's just another dialectic at work. CRB At 18:25 2003.10.03 -0400, you wrote: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:00:50 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- >Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Language is only ridiculous to those that are not commonly abused by it. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Cubs
I`m rooting for them! Considering they hadn`t had a post season win since 1908. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Cubs > CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN! > >
Re: twowhoohoos
Mark Cassino posted: > > Looked at the mail and found the current edition of American Entomologist, > sporting one of my monarch shots on the cover. This is my second cover shot > with them this year, after I sent them several photos last winter. They have excellent taste. > > This evening I went to the photography competition into which I had entered > my first pano try. Both of my shots were juried into the show. The pano did > not win an award, but my non-pano took first place. That was this shot: > > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/k_river.jpg > They have excellent taste, too. > I got a modest cash prize and spent some time hanging out with folks from > all the local green groups who were sponsoring the exhibit. Sounds like a great day. Congratulations!
Cubs
CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!
Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around
Greetings all, Heya Trevor, That might be a good idea actually.. Think we could make the numbers? Anyone interested? Even if we don't gather enough roos, I suppose if Chris gets the names (and locations) of everyone interested, the lens could make it's way around with the least travel.. e.g. US US US US US Aus Aus Aus Aus US, with Aus residents maybe splitting the Aus-US US Aus excess? (I suppose it's up to Chris) Of course if we find 10 parties here in Aus, it'd be less of an issue.. Trev: Is your name down for the current passaround? Chris: What say you? Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: RE: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > G'day All. > > Ryan. Mate, Maybe we could do a aussie pass around? Maybe the passaround > could be done continent by continent... > Hooroo. > Regards, > Trevor > Grafton, N.S.W. > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 2:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > About 30 seconds of thought, actually. :) > > Well, since we're having difficulty getting 10 people, you're welcome to > take part, provided you reimburse the person who ships it to you for the > difference between international and domestic shipping. > > Off to work now, > > chris > > > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote: > > > Sounds like a wonderful idea Chris.. I'd pay $25 bucks for it.. pity > > I'm in Australia and thus am not eligible though.. > > > > Rgds, > > Ryan > > > > PS. I'm amazed by how much thought went into it! > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:12 AM > > Subject: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > > > > > Here's the info again, since some people missed it the first time. > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to gauge the interest in this, so let me know what you > > > think. Here's the idea... > > > > > > Assuming that enough people are interested to make it worthwhile, > > > I'll buy one of the new Pentax FAJ 18-35mm f4-5.6 AL zoom lenses. > > > This is the lens designed for the *istD, but it also works > > > perfectly--as a true 18-35mm lens--on Pentax film bodies as well. > > > NOTE: This lens has no aperture ring, and so it will only stop down > > > on Pentax cameras that set the aperture from the body and not the > > > lens. > > > > > > Every person who signs up to try out the lens and is approved will > > > have the lens to try for a week before passing it on to the next > > > person on the list. To cover the cost of the lens and shipping, > > > I'll need a $25.00 US ($35.00 CAN) payment from every person > > > interested in trying this lens for a week. I'm not trying to make > > > money from this, but I don't want to lose any, either. We'll need > > > 10 people to make this viable. I have no idea how many people will > > > want to try this lens out. If we don't get 10, I can't afford to go > > > > through with it. If we get more then 10, then the pass-around will > > > be limited to the first 10 people who signed up. > > > > > > Now here's the good part. After the 10 people have each had a week > > > to play with the lens, the last person will ship it back to me. > > > We'll have a random selection process, and one person out of the 10 > > > (I won't be > > > eligible) will win the lens. I'll pay for shipping the lens to the > first > > > person on the list and to the winner, but I ask that everyone who > > > participates pay for INSURED, TRACKABLE shipping to the next person > on the > > > list. Please insure it for $250 US/$350 CAN. So, for the price of > $25.00 > > > US plus shipping, you get to try out a new and funky lens for a > week, and > > > get a 1/10 chance to win it. > > > > > > To minimize the risk inherent in this, only PDMLers in Canada and > > > the U.S. will be eligible. You can reply to this message on the > > > PDML if you're interested in participating, and I'll send you an > > > off-list reply to let you know if you can. I don't want to be too > > > restrictive, but I'd prefer to limit this either to people I know > > > from my time here, or people who have a decent posting history. If > > > I recognize your name or can find some posts from you in the > > > archives, that'll be fine, but if you just joined yesterday it'll be > > > > harder, unless you have a good eBay feedback rating or something. > > > For anyone who's wondering about trusting me, I joined the PDML > > > about five years ago, have an eBay feedback rating of 132 (100% > > > positive) under the username "chrisbrogden", and have bought/sold > stuff > > > from/to several PDMLers before. > > > > > > Hopefully this goes without saying, but please take good care of the > > > > lens while you have it. Use a filter
For Sale Friday
http://jcoconnell.com/JCO_AUCT.HTM Assorted k mount stuff this week. jco J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
twowhoohoos
I gotta say it was a good day - Looked at the mail and found the current edition of American Entomologist, sporting one of my monarch shots on the cover. This is my second cover shot with them this year, after I sent them several photos last winter. It was a bit of a surprise, but a nice one: http://www.markcassino.com/temp/ae.jpg This evening I went to the photography competition into which I had entered my first pano try. Both of my shots were juried into the show. The pano did not win an award, but my non-pano took first place. That was this shot: http://www.markcassino.com/temp/k_river.jpg People spent more time looking at the pano than the other shot - I think there is a gimmick effect going on there. Though another photographer from Saugatuck entered three panos (printed on the 4 inch Epson roll paper) that looked pretty good. I got a modest cash prize and spent some time hanging out with folks from all the local green groups who were sponsoring the exhibit. I gotta say it was a good day... (that song has been buzzing in my head the last few hours.) - MCC - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI - Photography: http://www.markcassino.com
Re: Speaking of tea
Any one ever tried dipping their RC prints into tea? makes a nice TEMP tonner ( then the acid eats the print away in a few months ). --- Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The one nice thing is the RAF are always very > accommodating, unlike the > > Army who are a major PITA, and give us tea and > biscuits. That's what I > > call civilised. > > If you want tea on GFM, bring your own. Coffee for > us in the morning, and > sweet iced tea (usually from Lipton or Luzianne tea > bags) during the day. > Come to think of it, unless you use tea bags, better > bring a teapot too > :-) > > Bill > > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: *ist D and the 1 gigabyte card
> The ist D supports a 1 gb card, saying it will store 70 RAW files, 56 full > resolution tiffs. It will do smaller than full resolution tiffs also, 87 > medium resolution (2400x1600) or 512 small (1536x1024). Something seems wrong with those figures. Only 56 full-resolution (6MP) TIFFs, and yet it has room for 512 small (1.5MP) TIFFs? Should that perhaps be 212? > It has about 9 configuration of Jpeg, ranging from 244 at the best setting > to its software limited 999 images, which is still full resolution, but more > compression. > The quality of the best quality Jpegs is very good indeed, FWIW. So it should be, if you only get 244 of them on a 1GB card; that's 4MB each! That's about 50% larger than the best-quality JPEGs from the Nikon D-100. It's apparent that Pentax are using less agressive compression settings.
Re: Words (was -- Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D)
If you have a problem with the question, you have a problem (GRIN). Who was it wrote the SF story where there was a culture where the proper answer to all those types of questions was "myoob!"? Was it A E Van Vogt in "The Voyage of the Space Beagle"? BTW, that is the book Star Trek was losely based upon. They even used a couple of the stories pretty much as they were in the book. AEVV was another of those Crazy Canadians, I think. Are you related to him, Frank (grin)? frank theriault wrote: I don't think the question is any sillier than the survey to begin with (draw your own conclusions from that statement ). But I can see it being a pretty serious matter for some people. What about transgendered people? What about those 1/2 way through the process (I don't know the correct terminology, but those who have had the hormone therapy, but can't afford the operation; they're living their lives as the gender they've chosen, but don't have either the "parts" or the chromosomes). I have to admit, sometimes it does make my head swim - it was a pretty simple question only a few years ago, wasn't it? M or F? But the fact is that things have changed, and people define themselves in a myriad of ways. How about M/F/Other/Don't Wish to Answer? Hope I didn't offend anyone, but this is one of those issues I've struggled with, and still am not sure how to handle (I'm talking generally, not WRT this particular little problem...) cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> perhaps it should be rephrased altogether: 'Do you have a Y chromosome (Yes / No) ?'. That would at least show how ridiculous the whole question is. [...] -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
*ist D and the 1 gigabyte card
The ist D supports a 1 gb card, saying it will store 70 RAW files, 56 full resolution tiffs. It will do smaller than full resolution tiffs also, 87 medium resolution (2400x1600) or 512 small (1536x1024). It has about 9 configuration of Jpeg, ranging from 244 at the best setting to its software limited 999 images, which is still full resolution, but more compression. The quality of the best quality Jpegs is very good indeed, FWIW. William Robb
Re: Professions and the PUG
>Were I to have the opportunity to photograph a girl on the street, I would. But, it would only be after chatting with her, getting her consent, and making sure (as best I can) that it's relatively safe. >I'm open for almost anything (photographically speaking, of course!). >cheers, frank I was sort of wondering why no one had shot a "professional girl" too. :-) Good explanation, frank. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Professions and the PUG
Oh, no need to duck, Ann! I guess I'm just saying that "going out and photographing a prostitute" isn't something I'd leave the house with the intention of doing. Fact is, I do walk around many different parts of town with my camera around my neck or over my shoulder (depending on which camera), and I'll talk with all sorts of people during my walks. Were I to have the opportunity to photograph a girl on the street, I would. But, it would only be after chatting with her, getting her consent, and making sure (as best I can) that it's relatively safe. I'm open for almost anything (photographically speaking, of course!). cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Where's your sense of adventure, Frank? ;) (ann ducks) > > _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: Professions and the PUG
frank theriault wrote: > 'Round about these parts, one's likely to have a pimp slit your throat if > you're seen pointing a camera at one of his girls. Or, if she's an > "independant" (as many crack-whores are - and lately there seems to be a lot > of them around), the streetwalker herself is likely to produce the slicing > implement. > > Not quite the same as the smiling girls in the windows (that I hear are) > over in Europe. > > cheers, > frank Where's your sense of adventure, Frank? ;) (ann ducks) > > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > >From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Professions and the PUG > >Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:35:01 -0400 > > > > > >Was kinda surprised there were no shots of > >world's oldest... > >Nobody live in Vegas or Amsterdam?? :) > > > >annsan - feeling silly this morning > > > > > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
RE: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around
G'day All. Ryan. Mate, Maybe we could do a aussie pass around? Maybe the passaround could be done continent by continent... Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, N.S.W. -Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 2:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around About 30 seconds of thought, actually. :) Well, since we're having difficulty getting 10 people, you're welcome to take part, provided you reimburse the person who ships it to you for the difference between international and domestic shipping. Off to work now, chris On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote: > Sounds like a wonderful idea Chris.. I'd pay $25 bucks for it.. pity > I'm in Australia and thus am not eligible though.. > > Rgds, > Ryan > > PS. I'm amazed by how much thought went into it! > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:12 AM > Subject: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > Here's the info again, since some people missed it the first time. > > > > chris > > > > > > I'm trying to gauge the interest in this, so let me know what you > > think. Here's the idea... > > > > Assuming that enough people are interested to make it worthwhile, > > I'll buy one of the new Pentax FAJ 18-35mm f4-5.6 AL zoom lenses. > > This is the lens designed for the *istD, but it also works > > perfectly--as a true 18-35mm lens--on Pentax film bodies as well. > > NOTE: This lens has no aperture ring, and so it will only stop down > > on Pentax cameras that set the aperture from the body and not the > > lens. > > > > Every person who signs up to try out the lens and is approved will > > have the lens to try for a week before passing it on to the next > > person on the list. To cover the cost of the lens and shipping, > > I'll need a $25.00 US ($35.00 CAN) payment from every person > > interested in trying this lens for a week. I'm not trying to make > > money from this, but I don't want to lose any, either. We'll need > > 10 people to make this viable. I have no idea how many people will > > want to try this lens out. If we don't get 10, I can't afford to go > > through with it. If we get more then 10, then the pass-around will > > be limited to the first 10 people who signed up. > > > > Now here's the good part. After the 10 people have each had a week > > to play with the lens, the last person will ship it back to me. > > We'll have a random selection process, and one person out of the 10 > > (I won't be > > eligible) will win the lens. I'll pay for shipping the lens to the first > > person on the list and to the winner, but I ask that everyone who > > participates pay for INSURED, TRACKABLE shipping to the next person on the > > list. Please insure it for $250 US/$350 CAN. So, for the price of $25.00 > > US plus shipping, you get to try out a new and funky lens for a week, and > > get a 1/10 chance to win it. > > > > To minimize the risk inherent in this, only PDMLers in Canada and > > the U.S. will be eligible. You can reply to this message on the > > PDML if you're interested in participating, and I'll send you an > > off-list reply to let you know if you can. I don't want to be too > > restrictive, but I'd prefer to limit this either to people I know > > from my time here, or people who have a decent posting history. If > > I recognize your name or can find some posts from you in the > > archives, that'll be fine, but if you just joined yesterday it'll be > > harder, unless you have a good eBay feedback rating or something. > > For anyone who's wondering about trusting me, I joined the PDML > > about five years ago, have an eBay feedback rating of 132 (100% > > positive) under the username "chrisbrogden", and have bought/sold stuff > > from/to several PDMLers before. > > > > Hopefully this goes without saying, but please take good care of the > > lens while you have it. Use a filter if there's a chance of > > scratching the glass, and do us the courtesy of paying to have the > > lens repaired if it is damaged (your home insurance might cover > > that). That being said, the winner should expect some minor > > cosmetic wear to the barrel, though hopefully none to the glass. > > > > I'm open to suggestions about the random selection process. I could > > just draw a name, but to keep it more public I'm thinking that the > > 10 people could each email me 5 numbers: one from 1-9, one from > > 10-19, one from 20-29, one from 30-39, and one from 40-49. Then, > > after all the numbers are in, I'll use the next Lotto 6-49 drawing > > to determine the winner. We'll start with the 0-9 numbers. If just > > one person picked a 0-9 number from the winning ticket, they get the > > lens. If no one did, then we'll go to the 20-29 numbers and try > > again, etc. If, say, three people pick a winning 0-9 num
Re: Words (was -- Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D)
I don't think the question is any sillier than the survey to begin with (draw your own conclusions from that statement ). But I can see it being a pretty serious matter for some people. What about transgendered people? What about those 1/2 way through the process (I don't know the correct terminology, but those who have had the hormone therapy, but can't afford the operation; they're living their lives as the gender they've chosen, but don't have either the "parts" or the chromosomes). I have to admit, sometimes it does make my head swim - it was a pretty simple question only a few years ago, wasn't it? M or F? But the fact is that things have changed, and people define themselves in a myriad of ways. How about M/F/Other/Don't Wish to Answer? Hope I didn't offend anyone, but this is one of those issues I've struggled with, and still am not sure how to handle (I'm talking generally, not WRT this particular little problem...) cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> perhaps it should be rephrased altogether: 'Do you have a Y chromosome (Yes / No) ?'. That would at least show how ridiculous the whole question is. [...] -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Words (was -- Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D)
>That would at least show how ridiculous the whole question is. [...] -- >Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Language is only ridiculous to those that are not commonly abused by it. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Professions and the PUG
'Round about these parts, one's likely to have a pimp slit your throat if you're seen pointing a camera at one of his girls. Or, if she's an "independant" (as many crack-whores are - and lately there seems to be a lot of them around), the streetwalker herself is likely to produce the slicing implement. Not quite the same as the smiling girls in the windows (that I hear are) over in Europe. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Professions and the PUG Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:35:01 -0400 Was kinda surprised there were no shots of world's oldest... Nobody live in Vegas or Amsterdam?? :) annsan - feeling silly this morning _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: OT:Panasonic DMC-FZ1 Aperture ring! Shutter speed dial!! And MORE!!! :-)
COOL!! Gianfranco (drooling) Thomas Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey folks, > > Here's a nice looking digi-cam! Manual zoom ring on lens. Manual focus ring > on lens! Aperture ring on lens!! Shutter speed dial on top!!! Oh my GOD, who > would have thought of such innovations on a modern digital camera huh? > Obviously not Penaw never mind. > > site address: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_440.html = __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
*ist D price at Jessops
http://www.jessops.com/search/dointellisearch.cfm?BRAND=&CONTINUE=false&FEATS=&FIRSTPRICE=&KEYWORD=&LEVEL=&MODELNUMBER=&NEWQUERY=True&NODE=481&ORD=ASC&ORDERBY=&QUANTITY=10&RECENT=0&REFINE=&SEARCH_FOR=&SEARCHNODE=0&SEARCHURL=dointellisearch.cfm&SECONDPRICE=&SHOWCASEID=&STARTROW=1&SUBS=&WORD_SEARCH=N&; Just noticed the body only price is GBP 1399.90 (USD 2,337.55), but if you buy it together with the FA18-35mm J lens it is only GBP 1299.90 (USD 2,170.57). That makes sense, the more you buy, the more discount you get, so you have to pay less. Now if I buy 2 of those cameras, it is probably GBP 1000 for the two I guess. -- Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Super Program winding tightly
I, and if I recall correctly, several others have had the same problem. Try putting a little graphite on the rewind knob shaft, this was the problem with mine and a few others. Oddly enough, I've never heard of it being a problem with the nearly identical Program Plus, or any other body either... Hope this helps, William in Utah. - Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:51 PM Subject: Super Program winding tightly > The last few times I've used my Super Program, it seemed that it wound > the film awfully tight, making it difficult to advance the film. It > didn't do this when I first got the camera. Is there anything I can do > to prevent this or do I need to take it for a CLA? > > Thanks, > Amita > >
Re: Making monopod out of tripod
On 3 Oct 2003 at 6:38, Lon Williamson wrote: > Yup. I've done it. There's also been at least one tripod > model made where one leg screws off for monopod use. And > another one where an extra long center post serves the same > purpose. Anyone know who makes/made these? Manfrotto used to have a monopod (may still do) that could be used to replace the centre column of an 055 tripod. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT - Speaking of tea
For shame, for shame. You left out the Red Man chewing tobacco :-) Bill - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 5:00 PM Subject: Re: OT - Speaking of tea > On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >Hot water is no problem. Croissants may be. We usually have sausage, eggs, > >and canned biscuits for breakfast. Canned biscuits because they're easy to > >store and bake in the Coleman oven. > > Okay Bill, now that I know you're a fly-boy, I just have this vision of > you as Slim Pickens - sat in PDML Central, pulling out the camp stoves > and rations... > > "Okay boys, here we have one GFM ration pack in which you will find one > regulation coffee pot, one issue of fresh Brazillian ground roast, one > porcelain coffee mug inscribed with 'Go 49ers', one large flagon of home- > brew, one large flagon of stop-bath, one pack of nylon stockings, one > packet of prophylactics, one hundred dollars in roubles, one hundred > dollars in gold - shoot a fella could have a pretty good time in > Charlotte with all that stuff.." > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk > >
Re: OT:Panasonic DMC-FZ1 Aperture ring! Shutter speed dial!! And MORE !!! :-)
Plus, a Leica lens. Jim A. > From: Thomas Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:54:59 -0700 > To: "Pentax Discuss (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: OT:Panasonic DMC-FZ1 Aperture ring! Shutter speed dial!! And MORE !!! > :-) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:38:11 -0400 > > Hey folks, > > Here's a nice looking digi-cam! Manual zoom ring on lens. Manual focus ring > on lens! Aperture ring on lens!! Shutter speed dial on top!!! Oh my GOD, who > would have thought of such innovations on a modern digital camera huh? > Obviously not Penaw never mind. > > site address: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_440.html > > Maybe I'll wait for a bit before I purchase my next camera, eh? This one > looks sweet! > > (By the way, my brother's 10D is awesome! This digital stuff is fun!) > > - THaller >
Re: OT: Sex vs Gender
I have a good friend who lays claim to having coined the usage of 'gender' rather than sex in this type of terminology. She is a feminist psychologist (field being the psychology of women) and needed a term for some of her papers and texts. This gives us something to argue over. Half a century ago, we were both taught that sex refers to the male vs female of a species and that gender is a gramatical term. After a few drinks, she will often agree with me, but still be proud of having added something to English usage. Larry > > Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:26:22 -0400 > From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > I've been told by some of my social scientist friends that the correct > term is "sex", i.e., the answer to "are you amle or female?". Evidently > sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the > psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the > sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable. > At least this was the answer I got when I suggested we use the word > "gender" on a survey. If memory serves, I made some sophomoric joke as > a reply. ;-) > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/02/03 11:11PM >>> > You're taking all of the sophomoric fun out of this list. > > At 10:21 PM 9/30/03 -0500, you wrote: > >Its better to use the word "gender" if your trying to avoid the > juvenile > >responses to the "sex" question I have found. > > > > > > > >Simon King wrote: > >>I'd be interested in seeing what the breakdown of the PDML is by, > say; > >>Sex, age, country, annual income, special interests etc. > >>Might throw up some surprises or challenge some assumptions. > >>Cheers, > >>Simon > >> > >> > >>PS - if anyone makes a joke about the "sex" question it'll just > prove how > >>many schoolboys are on the list. > >> > >>-Original Message- > >>From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 > >>September 2003 8:00 AM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D > >> > >>- Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" Subject: Re: I > > >>haven't got *Ist D > >> > >> > >>>Wow. I would have thought it was smaller. Hard to believe that > many > >>>folks think all of this is intersting ;-) > >> > >>Thats out of how many billions of people on this ball of dirt? > >> > >>William Robb > >> > >> > > > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > --
Re: 1000mm K series & tripod No Reserve
Peter, I already helped you out on this one, I am postkoets. I have to reserve my fundings for your *ist D at the moment :-) Perhaps others can finish this off, looks like a real bargain opportunity. On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 16:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > << Peter, I think the consensus is that it is ok to mention your own listings. > I think an occasional reminder is also ok, but not an hourly or daily status > report on how close the auction is to closing. > > With thousands of Pentax items on eBay at any time, much of it with > questionable provenance from unknown persons, I appreciate knowing when > there are items listed by a known source. >> > > In which case, folks, this is your one and only warning: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2954860123&category=4688 > > I don't employ a gardener, but may be forced to call in an airstrike. > > I know you won't let me down > > Kind regards > > Peter > > -- Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: OT - Speaking of tea
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Hot water is no problem. Croissants may be. We usually have sausage, eggs, >and canned biscuits for breakfast. Canned biscuits because they're easy to >store and bake in the Coleman oven. Okay Bill, now that I know you're a fly-boy, I just have this vision of you as Slim Pickens - sat in PDML Central, pulling out the camp stoves and rations... "Okay boys, here we have one GFM ration pack in which you will find one regulation coffee pot, one issue of fresh Brazillian ground roast, one porcelain coffee mug inscribed with 'Go 49ers', one large flagon of home- brew, one large flagon of stop-bath, one pack of nylon stockings, one packet of prophylactics, one hundred dollars in roubles, one hundred dollars in gold - shoot a fella could have a pretty good time in Charlotte with all that stuff.." Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Super Program winding tightly
The last few times I've used my Super Program, it seemed that it wound the film awfully tight, making it difficult to advance the film. It didn't do this when I first got the camera. Is there anything I can do to prevent this or do I need to take it for a CLA? Thanks, Amita
OT:Panasonic DMC-FZ1 Aperture ring! Shutter speed dial!! And MORE !!! :-)
Hey folks, Here's a nice looking digi-cam! Manual zoom ring on lens. Manual focus ring on lens! Aperture ring on lens!! Shutter speed dial on top!!! Oh my GOD, who would have thought of such innovations on a modern digital camera huh? Obviously not Penaw never mind. site address: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_440.html Maybe I'll wait for a bit before I purchase my next camera, eh? This one looks sweet! (By the way, my brother's 10D is awesome! This digital stuff is fun!) - THaller
RE: Professions and the PUG
No excusus, you're just right! Hans B. mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 21:18 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Professions and the PUG Hans Beumer wrote: > I think for american measures I allmost live in Amsterdam (40 km. to the > west). Just didn't have time to visit the professionals there :-) . > OTOH, when you are dutch, what's new or special to it? > Regards, Hans B. Just seemed to me if the title was PROFESSIONAL the oldest profession should have been represented :) annsan > > > mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 15:35 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Professions and the PUG > > Was kinda surprised there were no shots of > world's oldest... > Nobody live in Vegas or Amsterdam?? :) > > annsan - feeling silly this morning
Re: want to buy (and looking for suggestions too)
På fredag, 3. oktober 2003, kl. 21:57, skrev Gaurav Aggarwal: Hi, Thanks for all the help that you guys gave me personally and through all the posts that I silently keep reading. I feel ready to make some purchases so would appreciate some help and prices if you are selling any of these: 1. Macro teleconverter for my M 50mm f/1.7. Lieberman suggested Panagor Macro converter. Others talked about Vivitar "Macro" 2x. Any other? Selling any of these? I´ve got a Vivitar macro 2x converter, and it´s great. Take a look at my picture in this months PUG. I will sell it, because it wont work properly on the *istD , but first I need an A 100mm f/2.8 Macro, so DagT
Re: OT: OPTIO S on TV?
I am a fan of this show. Last season someone used a P&S digital. It looked like the ELPH digital from Canon. I think the camera you saw was a little large for the Optio S. Jim A. > From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Stanley, Powers & Matyola > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:13:33 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: OPTIO S on TV? > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:23:40 -0400 > > On CSI last night, the lead crime scene investigator, Grissom, took some > photos himself. The scene flashed by quickly, but it certainly looked to me > as if he were using an Optio S. Did anyone else watch it last night an see > the camera? > For those not in the US, CSI is the top rated TV show at this time. >
Re: OT - Speaking of tea
Hot water is no problem. Croissants may be. We usually have sausage, eggs, and canned biscuits for breakfast. Canned biscuits because they're easy to store and bake in the Coleman oven. Bill - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: Re: OT - Speaking of tea > On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >> The one nice thing is the RAF are always very accommodating, unlike the > >> Army who are a major PITA, and give us tea and biscuits. That's what I > >> call civilised. > > > >If you want tea on GFM, bring your own. Coffee for us in the morning, and > >sweet iced tea (usually from Lipton or Luzianne tea bags) during the day. > >Come to think of it, unless you use tea bags, better bring a teapot too > >:-) > > > >Bill > > Nah, I'm as common as muck, me. I make it in a mug. I will bring my usual > Earl Grey bags. Will there be hot water? If I'm around there'll be plenty > of hot air. > > don't mind a cup of fresh coffee in the morning, with fresh croissants > and jam though. That's for lazy Sunday mornings. Otherwise, it's > definitely tea and hot buttered toast. > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk > >
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >The compound used to relight the engines at altitude in an emergency on >the ER-2 (and U2) is hydrazine. A safety briefing is necessary every >time you visit Dryden to work, and being aware of the alarm that sounds >in the event of a hydrazine leak is one of the things they caution you >about. It's a nasty agent. I wouldn't be surprised if it is hydrazine >used on the SR-71 as well. I hear it's also not a bad developer if you want to push FP4 up there to 6400.. Nice one Peter, I've enjoyed reading these as well. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT - Speaking of tea
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> The one nice thing is the RAF are always very accommodating, unlike the >> Army who are a major PITA, and give us tea and biscuits. That's what I >> call civilised. > >If you want tea on GFM, bring your own. Coffee for us in the morning, and >sweet iced tea (usually from Lipton or Luzianne tea bags) during the day. >Come to think of it, unless you use tea bags, better bring a teapot too >:-) > >Bill Nah, I'm as common as muck, me. I make it in a mug. I will bring my usual Earl Grey bags. Will there be hot water? If I'm around there'll be plenty of hot air. don't mind a cup of fresh coffee in the morning, with fresh croissants and jam though. That's for lazy Sunday mornings. Otherwise, it's definitely tea and hot buttered toast. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > "are you amle or female?" I've always been amle. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: Advise on zooms to round out my collection sought
I have a m75-150 and it is a stunningly high quality optic. As good as primes in the rangeno kidding. Fantastic lens but the narrow zoom range is a little frustrating at times JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:36 PM To: PDML Pentax Discuss Subject: Advise on zooms to round out my collection sought I have primes covering 20 to 200mm, fairly well spaced out. 20, 24, 28, 35, 50, 100, 135 and 200 to be exact. Most are Pentax. About the only lens I might add is a fast 85, but not right now. I currently own an A 35-70 f4 and a Sigma APO 70-300. The Sigma is too big and bulky to consider the two a viable pair. I look at the Sigma as a zoo and sports lens, not a carry-around. So, looking at the A 35-70 as a starter, I'm considering: The M 24-35 f3.5 to supplement the low end, and the M 75-150 f4 to supplement the high end. I'd have a 3 zoom kit, all constant aperature (useful because I use fully manual bodies often). Mind you, I don't want the bulk of the fast zooms. Also, I think I can live without a 200mm top end. I'm envisioning a 3 zoom kit for casual photography here. I could always lug the Sigma along if I needed reach. As I recall, those who own the M 75-150 seem pleased with it; I can't recall much discussion about the M 24-35. Any caveats or problems or gotchas with the two M's I'm thinking about? Comments? Alternatives?
Advise on zooms to round out my collection sought
I have primes covering 20 to 200mm, fairly well spaced out. 20, 24, 28, 35, 50, 100, 135 and 200 to be exact. Most are Pentax. About the only lens I might add is a fast 85, but not right now. I currently own an A 35-70 f4 and a Sigma APO 70-300. The Sigma is too big and bulky to consider the two a viable pair. I look at the Sigma as a zoo and sports lens, not a carry-around. So, looking at the A 35-70 as a starter, I'm considering: The M 24-35 f3.5 to supplement the low end, and the M 75-150 f4 to supplement the high end. I'd have a 3 zoom kit, all constant aperature (useful because I use fully manual bodies often). Mind you, I don't want the bulk of the fast zooms. Also, I think I can live without a 200mm top end. I'm envisioning a 3 zoom kit for casual photography here. I could always lug the Sigma along if I needed reach. As I recall, those who own the M 75-150 seem pleased with it; I can't recall much discussion about the M 24-35. Any caveats or problems or gotchas with the two M's I'm thinking about? Comments? Alternatives?
Re: Some Pug Reactions/Critiques
Hi Marnie, I'm glad it makes you feel that way. These is basically what went through my head when I so the scene. I have nothing to add, you wrote it beautifully. Thanks. Off I go now for a few days, there is a short four day sailing trip ahead of us. See you all, Matjaz > Marnie wrote: > > There Might Be a New Star by Matjaz Osojnik > > This is my overall fav this month -- the aspirations of a child. In > this case centering really works ;-), because the rails create a > strong diagonal. In fact, the rails reaching upward seem to symbolize > the kids wishes reaching upwards. The circle effect of the people > below with the shallow depth of field just reemphasize the boy and the > way he stands (sits) apart them with his aspirations. I find it hard > to verbalize the entire effect I think this composition has, but it is > a very emotionally pleasing photograph that seems to "say something" > -- to convey a concept. >
Re: Words (was -- Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D)
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Change never occurs in a vacuum, on its own, without external stimuli. Hmm.. No one has ever attributed particle decomposition (half life) to external stimuli. In fact, because of its Gaussian nature, it appears to happen literally in a vacuum, or from within... :)
*ist-D K Mount Question
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:26:14 -0400 Sorry, I should have been more specific. I thought it occurred in AE as well as manual. I will double check this when I get home. What was curious was that I could see the aperture closing if I looked into the lens. As for DOF, I was focusing on something only a few feet a way. The DOF difference between 2.5 and 32 was pretty noticable focusing on the some point with the same lens with an LX. Steve From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: *ist-D K Mount Question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Were you shooting in auto exposure or manual exposure mode? The exposure appearing the same would seem to mean that the either the shutter speed or ISO changed for the second exposure. As for DOF, were you shooting something near, or far away? Bill
Re: Words (was -- Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D)
Collin wrote: >Back up the turnip wagon there, Glenn. Change never occurs in a vacuum, on its own, without external stimuli. You very admirably went half way with the point that there was a requisite for an additional application. (That's a lot further than many are willing or able to take the discussion.) >But to say that there is not a motivation behind the stimuli falls short of describing the complete situation. This is a socio/political matter, both in objective and movitation. As a woman, on forms I prefer gender. Because technically it is more accurate -- referring to what genitalia I was born with rather than one's sexual practices. And it avoids all those stupid juvenile jokes. It is also part of the language changing that has gone over the last umpteen years to make things less male oriented, which frankly was a big pain and semi-insulting. Like fireman, mailman, policeman, weatherman, etc., etc., etc. I grew up in the 50's and 60's when 90% of mysteries and science-fiction were written by men and most of the protagonists were male. It becomes a very disassociating experience when you read and see only 1/2 of the world consistently reflected in language and that half is not YOUR half. It literally makes you feel weird, unrepresented, and somehow not important or less-than. And it makes it very hard to identify with what you read. I am very glad things have changed. Extremely glad. For women and anyone else that was once left out of the big linguistic picture. Marnie aka Doe
Words (was -- Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D)
Back up the turnip wagon there, Glenn. Change never occurs in a vacuum, on its own, without external stimuli. You very admirably went half way with the point that there was a requisite for an additional application. (That's a lot further than many are willing or able to take the discussion.) But to say that there is not a motivation behind the stimuli falls short of describing the complete situation. This is a socio/political matter, both in objective and movitation. It's a dialectic the West has been struggling with for a long time. PC is such a framework that the change fits within rather nicely. The parallel is more akin to a Search & Replace operation. The world has always been driven, and that by philosophers. It does not wander aimlessly but looks for something to fill its emptiness. Sometimes money, sometimes manipulation, sometimes control, sometimes autonomy. They all have failed miserably. CRB >Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:39:56 -0400 (EDT) >From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Collin observed: >> Before Political Correctness destroyed language in favor of >> the New Speak, "gender" was a gammatical term. As explained >> to me years ago: >> "Words have gender, people have sex." > >It's not political correctness -- it's recognition that >the world is more complex than previous usage allowed >convenient descriptions of, that another word was needed, >and that a convenient nearby word would serve double-duty >pretty unconfusingly. > >Think of it as an "overloaded operator" in C++. > >In other words, normal language evolution motivated by a >need to be able to describe concepts, not a reworking for >a political/social agenda. > >-- Glenn
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
I have also greatly enjoyed this thread Peter Popp wrote: > This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, > as far as off-topic threads go.
Re: FA* 80-200mm f/2.8
I know it's not quite the same, but that's exactly why I bought my M-42 SMC Takumar 105mm f/2.8. This is a jewel of a lens, and no imposition to any sort of use. Small and capable. Goes with me most places I go. Of course, I always have an M-42 to K adapter in my kit [doesn't everyone?] and it's most useful... keith whaley graywolf wrote: > > Which is why I bought your M100/2.8, Stan. Somehow my Tokina ATX > 80-200/2.8 did not seem to be the lens to use for steet portraits. > > Stan Halpin wrote: > > > > As others have noted, it is heavy. However, it does have a tripod mount > > which, combined with a monopod, makes it quite usable for long periods. It > > is big, gets a lot of attention, and could be intimidating. Probably not a > > choice for stealth street candids. > > -- > graywolf > http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: FA* 80-200mm f/2.8
Which is why I bought your M100/2.8, Stan. Somehow my Tokina ATX 80-200/2.8 did not seem to be the lens to use for steet portraits. Stan Halpin wrote: As others have noted, it is heavy. However, it does have a tripod mount which, combined with a monopod, makes it quite usable for long periods. It is big, gets a lot of attention, and could be intimidating. Probably not a choice for stealth street candids. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: 1000mm K series & tripod No Reserve
You have a wonderful sense of humour. I love the idea of mounting this on a 110 . Peter (another one) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: 1000mm K series & tripod No Reserve > > > << Peter, I think the consensus is that it is ok to mention your own listings. > I think an occasional reminder is also ok, but not an hourly or daily status > report on how close the auction is to closing. > > With thousands of Pentax items on eBay at any time, much of it with > questionable provenance from unknown persons, I appreciate knowing when > there are items listed by a known source. >> > > In which case, folks, this is your one and only warning: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2954860123&category=468 8 > > I don't employ a gardener, but may be forced to call in an airstrike. > > I know you won't let me down > > Kind regards > > Peter > > >
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
GRIN! I suggest you use Latin or Anchient Greek, Bob. The problem with a living language is it is a moving target. It keeps changing every time you look the other way for a minute. Of coure that does makes it hard to communicate precisely. Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, gender really just means 'type' and is related to 'genus'. It's come to be associated with sex because in some languages, e.g. French, males and females are different genders and the genders themselves have been labelled 'masculine' and 'feminine'. However it's only a metaphor. The notion of a table being literally feminine, or butter being literally masculine is absurd. I suggest it came to apply to sex euphemistically, by the same sort of people who first called a toilet a bathroom or rest room. It's been made a thousand times worse by the people who now use 'gender' as a verb. Just type 'gendering' into Google for a shambles of examples of just how much people can butcher the language and at the same time advertise their own stupidity. Here's a good one: http://www.geocities.com/puckrobin/rh/rhgend.html Bob (m.) Friday, October 3, 2003, 3:54:12 PM, you wrote: Before Political Correctness destroyed language in favor of the New Speak, "gender" was a gammatical term. As explained to me years ago: "Words have gender, people have sex." CRB Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:26:22 -0400 From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been told by some of my social scientist friends that the correct term is "sex", i.e., the answer to "are you amle or female?". >Evidently sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable. At least this was the answer I got when I suggested we use the word "gender" on a survey. If memory serves, I made some sophomoric joke as a reply. ;-) Steven Desjardins -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: Optio 330?
Hi Joseph, on 03 Oct 03 you wrote in pentax.list: >than that in price. Then I read that it lacks a viewfinder. That might >be enough of keep me from buying it. What do owners of it think? The 330 has a viewfinder! The only Optio that hasn't a Viewfinder, is the 33L. BTW - the 330 is quite old - it was replaced by the 330RS which was replaced by the 450 ;-) I would suggest an Optio S - that's perfect for a woman's purse or the breast pocket of your shirt ;-) The picture quality of all Optios is more than sufficient for 4x6. But the Optio S is the fastest - so it is optimal for snapshots. The new Optio S4 is even a little bit faster, but it is more expensive and will push on the price of the "old" Optio S. Cheers, Heiko
Re: Optio 330?
I don't see the 330 on the Pentax web site. Looks like it's been replaced by the 33L. Have you considered the Optio S? Bill - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: Optio 330? > My wife has begun asking for a digital camera. She is a snapshooter, and > her needs are limited to 4 x 6 prints and low-res jpegs that she can > e-mail to friends. She isn't careful about gear, so it needs to be > moderately priced and small enough to go in her purse (where it will be > protected). I thought about the Optio 330. I don't want to go higher > than that in price. Then I read that it lacks a viewfinder. That might > be enough of keep me from buying it. What do owners of it think? > > Any recommendations for other cameras (non-Pentax) that run about the > same in size and price? > > Thanks, > > Joe > >
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
>In other words, normal language evolution motivated by a need to be able to describe concepts, not a reworking for a political/social agenda. >-- Glenn I agree. Marnie aka Doe Sometimes language needs some reworking when it is imprecise.
Film (variae)
Got back 15 rolls of C-41 and 6 of E-6. I took some new types on my recent trip to Norway, Denmark, and Sweden, and tried new things with old types. Here are some observations: The Viking ship museum in Olso is very dark for photography. I underexposed NPZ 800 one stop and got very good negatives. I also shot Provia 400F at 1600 here, developed with a two-stop push. My initial review, based only on looking at the slides through a small viewer, is that the results are fantastic. D-max is good, there is fine shadow detail, and overall image rendition is beyond what I had hoped for. I'll know more when I scan and enlarge the slides. For now, I'm impressed. E100VS, shot at 400 and developed with a two-stop push, did its usual wonders. Velvia 100F is nice, but very contrasty. It's almost too contrasty if you have any shadows in your image. It's good on cloudy days or without shadows. Agfa Ultra 100 is stunning. Beyond its great saturation, tt seems to have less contrast than Velvia or E100VS. This one will become a standard part of my kit. E100G: I am considering this in lieu of Provia 100F. The jury is still out. Some images were stunning, some flat. Superia Reala 100. This was recommended to me as having high saturation but low contrast. The contrast is okay, but it has high saturation only in bright sun. Otherwise it seems quite bland. I may go back to Agfa Optima 100. OTOH, I use the Reala 100 indoors shooting the Vasa. I didn't have a tripod, so had to set the camera on solid things and shoot time exposures -- about 8 seconds. Some wonderful images resulted, one of which may show up on a future PUG. Joe
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
Collin observed: > Before Political Correctness destroyed language in favor of > the New Speak, "gender" was a gammatical term. As explained > to me years ago: > "Words have gender, people have sex." It's not political correctness -- it's recognition that the world is more complex than previous usage allowed convenient descriptions of, that another word was needed, and that a convenient nearby word would serve double-duty pretty unconfusingly. Think of it as an "overloaded operator" in C++. In other words, normal language evolution motivated by a need to be able to describe concepts, not a reworking for a political/social agenda. -- Glenn
Optio 330?
My wife has begun asking for a digital camera. She is a snapshooter, and her needs are limited to 4 x 6 prints and low-res jpegs that she can e-mail to friends. She isn't careful about gear, so it needs to be moderately priced and small enough to go in her purse (where it will be protected). I thought about the Optio 330. I don't want to go higher than that in price. Then I read that it lacks a viewfinder. That might be enough of keep me from buying it. What do owners of it think? Any recommendations for other cameras (non-Pentax) that run about the same in size and price? Thanks, Joe
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
Steve Desjardins wrote:
> I've been told by some of my social scientist friends that the correct
> term is "sex", i.e., the answer to "are you amle or female?".
It really depends on what you're trying to measure. Quite
often that would be the wrong question, and even when it's
the right question, unless you attach a definition to the
survey, it can be confusing.
("Confusing?" I hear folks ask ... well yeah, if you really
do mean _sex_ -- i.e. biology -- do you mean morphological
sex, hormonal sex, or genetic sex? Each of those can be a
valid or invalid definition depending on just what it is
that you are trying to measure. And you still need at least
three categories (the easy cop-out is to lump lots of things
under "other"), because of various intersex phenomena. That
is, even if you want to limit things to morphological birth-
sex, you've got at least five categories that show up often
enough to count (something like 1% of births is still a lot
of people), and if you mean genetics, there's Kleinfelter
syndrome (somewhere around 0.1% of births). And then you've
got the questions of which sex a post-op transsexual counts
as: if you're trying to figure out which bathroom they'll
use and which sex acts they can perform without props,
morphological sex matters; if you're screening for sex-linked
genetic disease, chromosomal sex matters. If you're trying
to get pregnant, both matter, and hormonal issues enter the
picture. And if you're trying to decide whether someone is
allowed to attend a women's music festival, then *politics*
gets stirred into the pot, but I digress... )
Note that outside of _medical_ contexts it's almost always
morphological sex that matters when you actually mean sex at
all, and more often than that it's actually gender that's
meant in the first place.
I'm surprised that a _social_ scientist would say to use sex.
After all, aren't social scientists usually more concerned
with whether a subject is a man or woman, rather than whether
they're male or female? And man/woman is a _gender_ thing.
> Evidently
> sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the
> psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the
> sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable.
Well, depending on your model of gender, it can be considered a
continuous one-dimensional variable, a discrete multidimensional
variable, or a continuous multidimensional variable. (Okay, it
can also be modelled as a discrete but non-binary linear variable,
but I don't find that model at all useful.) Note that the BSRI
(Bem Sex Roles Inventory, named for its creator, Sandra Bem)
treats it as a two-dimensional continuous variable, allowing for
(varying degrees of) both "bi-gendered" and "ungendered" in the
'middle' ground between (varying degrees of) masculine and
feminine. (It does not, as I recall, distinguish between
"bi-gendered" and "inter-gendered", nor really allow for "strongly
female-identified butch", so even the BSRI is just a starting
place. But hey, I suspect even Bem would agree that the tool
is outdated now.)
So which do we mean if we want to gather statistical information
about the PDML membership? Are we tallying penes, or asking
how many men and women are on the list? I *think* we're more
interested in gender than sex here, but hey, if I'm wrong I'm
wrong. Could make for a cool X-rated PUG theme though, if it's
really pudenda we want to count, eh? But no, I really think we
want to count gender here.
Either way, there need to be at least three choices. If anyone
besides me is interested in a more comprehensive list of options
for statistics-gathering, we can discuss that, but just adding
"other" and/or "no response" as valid options at least makes
the survey possible for folks like me to fill out _accurately_.
-- Glenn
PS: Why yes, I have thought about this (and read, and listened)
quite a lot and consider it important. I write letters of
complaint when sex/gender is a _required_ field on a computerized
form (including web forms), and have been known to pencil in a
box for "other" on paper forms. The proposed PDML survey, if it
ever does happen, isn't a Big Important Deal, but awareness of
the issues for the next time someone here has input to the design
of a form is something I do care about. It's partly a matter of
personal distaste for bad science ("Oh look, your data are
guaranteed to be incorrect for some subset of your respondents!"),
partly a cultural/institutional _invisibility_ issue ("How can
they know whether we number enough to be taken into account if
they have no way of even counting us or finding out we exist?"),
and partly a matter of privacy ("If all I'm doing is registering
to use a free article archive on the web, why do you even need
to know my sex/gender at all?")
RE: Some Pug Reactions/Critiques
> Herding Ducks by Amita Guha > > I found this amusing and, of course, a working dog *is* a > professional! The > originality in subject manner was refreshing. I feel it has a > bit too much > surrounding grass though -- maybe a crop or bigger glass in > the first place or > something like that. But this one is fun. Thanks Marnie! Glad you liked it. I guess I left some of the grass in to give a sense of where the animals were going; in the original print there's a lot more grass to the right (of course I didn't have much choice in the matter anyway. :)
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
> > This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say > I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. To bring it back onto topic, somewhat: A few years ago a SR-71 was supposed to be making a low, slow pass over Moffett Field as part of their airshow. (It wasn't exactly a secret, but it wasn't widely promoted, either). So there I was, nicely set up near the runway, with a long lens. Unfortunately I (and the half a dozen or so other photographers who had set up for the shot) were disappointed; the plane had suffered mechanical problems, and wasn't able to make the show. That was pretty much the last public appearance before the fleet was finally grounded, too, so there's little chance of a repeat. There's a NASA U2 parked at Moffet (at NASA Ames Research Center), alongside a Harrier, an F-104, and a pilotless photo spy drone.
RE: free Cable Switch F
Just lucky to check my e-mail before having dinner! (I already thanked Peter in private mail, ofcourse.) Hans B. mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Peter Popp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 17:36 Aan: pentax-discuss Onderwerp: free Cable Switch F Thanks everyone, but Hans Beumer was the first to respond. Peter
RE: free Cable Switch F
Hi Peter, Hope I am the lucky one. I have a PZ-1 and tried to build one myself but it didn't work properly :( Gaurav -Original Message- From: Peter Popp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 7:20 AM To: pentax-discuss Subject: free Cable Switch F Some people may remember that I was selling off my entire 35 mm in order to expand my 645nII kit. Most things have sold, and I have paid for my FA 45-85/4.5 and I'll soon be ordering the FA 150/2.8. I no longer have need for my Cable Switch F, so I would be glad to mail it for free to the first person to send me a private e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - please be sure that you have a camera you can use it with. It is the older style remote with three pin sockets in line. I know it works with the PZ-1 and PZ-1p, and I believe the 645n (not nII) and ZX series as well. And please don't respond if you already own such a cable. Peter
free Cable Switch F
Thanks everyone, but Hans Beumer was the first to respond. Peter
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
Hi, gender really just means 'type' and is related to 'genus'. It's come to be associated with sex because in some languages, e.g. French, males and females are different genders and the genders themselves have been labelled 'masculine' and 'feminine'. However it's only a metaphor. The notion of a table being literally feminine, or butter being literally masculine is absurd. I suggest it came to apply to sex euphemistically, by the same sort of people who first called a toilet a bathroom or rest room. It's been made a thousand times worse by the people who now use 'gender' as a verb. Just type 'gendering' into Google for a shambles of examples of just how much people can butcher the language and at the same time advertise their own stupidity. Here's a good one: http://www.geocities.com/puckrobin/rh/rhgend.html Bob (m.) Friday, October 3, 2003, 3:54:12 PM, you wrote: > Before Political Correctness destroyed language in favor of > the New Speak, "gender" was a gammatical term. As explained > to me years ago: > "Words have gender, people have sex." > CRB >>Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:26:22 -0400 >>From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>I've been told by some of my social scientist friends that the correct >>term is "sex", i.e., the answer to "are you amle or female?". >Evidently >>sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the >>psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the >>sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable. >>At least this was the answer I got when I suggested we use the word >>"gender" on a survey. If memory serves, I made some sophomoric >>joke as a reply. ;-) >> >> >>Steven Desjardins
free Cable Switch F
Some people may remember that I was selling off my entire 35 mm in order to expand my 645nII kit. Most things have sold, and I have paid for my FA 45-85/4.5 and I'll soon be ordering the FA 150/2.8. I no longer have need for my Cable Switch F, so I would be glad to mail it for free to the first person to send me a private e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - please be sure that you have a camera you can use it with. It is the older style remote with three pin sockets in line. I know it works with the PZ-1 and PZ-1p, and I believe the 645n (not nII) and ZX series as well. And please don't respond if you already own such a cable. Peter
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. One of the planes that we (at NOAA) have had the good fortune to fly our instruments on is the NASA ER-2 (essentially a U2 "R" model with less sophisticated electronics). The ground crews that look after these planes at Dryden Flight Research Center (Edwards AFB in CA) were, a few years ago but no longer, Lockheed Martin contractors. A number of the ground crew members had previously served on SR-71 ground crews. It is absolutely true that the SR-71 leaked like a sieve until it was airborne. It would refuel in air immediately after takeoff, which is common for a number of modern aircraft as well. One of the ground crew told me that he had seen pictures taken by the pilots in flight of the nose section glowing red when the plane was at full speed. The compound used to relight the engines at altitude in an emergency on the ER-2 (and U2) is hydrazine. A safety briefing is necessary every time you visit Dryden to work, and being aware of the alarm that sounds in the event of a hydrazine leak is one of the things they caution you about. It's a nasty agent. I wouldn't be surprised if it is hydrazine used on the SR-71 as well. Peter
RE: Professions and the PUG
I think for american measures I allmost live in Amsterdam (40 km. to the west). Just didn't have time to visit the professionals there :-) . OTOH, when you are dutch, what's new or special to it? Regards, Hans B. mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 3 oktober 2003 15:35 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Professions and the PUG Was kinda surprised there were no shots of world's oldest... Nobody live in Vegas or Amsterdam?? :) annsan - feeling silly this morning
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
"Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Before Political Correctness destroyed language in favor of >the New Speak, "gender" was a gammatical term. As explained >to me years ago: >"Words have gender, people have sex." Thank you. I know an English professor who gets very annoyed by people misusing the word "gender" when they mean "sex". -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D
Before Political Correctness destroyed language in favor of the New Speak, "gender" was a gammatical term. As explained to me years ago: "Words have gender, people have sex." CRB >Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:26:22 -0400 >From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I've been told by some of my social scientist friends that the correct >term is "sex", i.e., the answer to "are you amle or female?". >Evidently >sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the >psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the >sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable. >At least this was the answer I got when I suggested we use the word >"gender" on a survey. If memory serves, I made some sophomoric >joke as a reply. ;-) > > >Steven Desjardins
1000mm K series & tripod No Reserve
<< Peter, I think the consensus is that it is ok to mention your own listings. I think an occasional reminder is also ok, but not an hourly or daily status report on how close the auction is to closing. With thousands of Pentax items on eBay at any time, much of it with questionable provenance from unknown persons, I appreciate knowing when there are items listed by a known source. >> In which case, folks, this is your one and only warning: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2954860123&category=4688 I don't employ a gardener, but may be forced to call in an airstrike. I know you won't let me down Kind regards Peter
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
A hovering Harrier is the loudest thing I've ever heard, at least that went on and on and on and on... (GRIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: << LOL Surely the Vulcan will be missed by many of us that have taken part in this thread. I have never *felt* anything remotely as loud as that when it pointed skywards and turned full reheat on ! I would love to see one of those flying again. >> English Electric Lightning. Or maybe I am showing my age? Toodle pip Peter -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
Interesting saying. It goes back a ways. You joined the army, did your 30 years, and they bought you a farm. It was about the only way poor people could get land. So "bought the farm" came to mean your service was over. How far back dose it go, to the Roman Legion at least. However, I think the Blackbird had an ejection seat (probably a demolition charge that went off 10 seconds after you ejected too). So "giving the aircraft back to the taxpayer" is not quite the same thing as "buying the farm" even in that aircraft. Bill Owens wrote: Or, "Buying the Farm" -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com
Speaking of tea
> The one nice thing is the RAF are always very accommodating, unlike the > Army who are a major PITA, and give us tea and biscuits. That's what I > call civilised. If you want tea on GFM, bring your own. Coffee for us in the morning, and sweet iced tea (usually from Lipton or Luzianne tea bags) during the day. Come to think of it, unless you use tea bags, better bring a teapot too :-) Bill
Professions and the PUG
Was kinda surprised there were no shots of world's oldest... Nobody live in Vegas or Amsterdam?? :) annsan - feeling silly this morning
Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around
Sounds good. You're person #5. If we get our 10, then I'll let you know what to do. Cheers, chris On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote: > Hey Chris, > > That's neat, count me in then! > > Ryan > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > About 30 seconds of thought, actually. :) > > > > Well, since we're having difficulty getting 10 people, you're welcome to > > take part, provided you reimburse the person who ships it to you for the > > difference between international and domestic shipping. > > > > Off to work now, > > > > chris > > > > > > > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Ryan Lee wrote: > > > > > Sounds like a wonderful idea Chris.. I'd pay $25 bucks for it.. pity I'm > in > > > Australia and thus am not eligible though.. > > > > > > Rgds, > > > Ryan > > > > > > PS. I'm amazed by how much thought went into it! > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:12 AM > > > Subject: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's the info again, since some people missed it the first time. > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to gauge the interest in this, so let me know what you > think. > > > > Here's the idea... > > > > > > > > Assuming that enough people are interested to make it worthwhile, I'll > buy > > > > one of the new Pentax FAJ 18-35mm f4-5.6 AL zoom lenses. This is the > lens > > > > designed for the *istD, but it also works perfectly--as a true 18-35mm > > > > lens--on Pentax film bodies as well. NOTE: This lens has no aperture > > > > ring, and so it will only stop down on Pentax cameras that set the > > > > aperture from the body and not the lens. > > > > > > > > Every person who signs up to try out the lens and is approved will > have > > > > the lens to try for a week before passing it on to the next person on > the > > > > list. To cover the cost of the lens and shipping, I'll need a $25.00 > US > > > > ($35.00 CAN) payment from every person interested in trying this lens > for > > > > a week. I'm not trying to make money from this, but I don't want to > lose > > > > any, either. We'll need 10 people to make this viable. I have no > idea > > > > how many people will want to try this lens out. If we don't get 10, I > > > > can't afford to go through with it. If we get more then 10, then the > > > > pass-around will be limited to the first 10 people who signed up. > > > > > > > > Now here's the good part. After the 10 people have each had a week to > > > > play with the lens, the last person will ship it back to me. We'll > have a > > > > random selection process, and one person out of the 10 (I won't be > > > > eligible) will win the lens. I'll pay for shipping the lens to the > first > > > > person on the list and to the winner, but I ask that everyone who > > > > participates pay for INSURED, TRACKABLE shipping to the next person on > the > > > > list. Please insure it for $250 US/$350 CAN. So, for the price of > $25.00 > > > > US plus shipping, you get to try out a new and funky lens for a week, > and > > > > get a 1/10 chance to win it. > > > > > > > > To minimize the risk inherent in this, only PDMLers in Canada and the > U.S. > > > > will be eligible. You can reply to this message on the PDML if you're > > > > interested in participating, and I'll send you an off-list reply to > let > > > > you know if you can. I don't want to be too restrictive, but I'd > prefer > > > > to limit this either to people I know from my time here, or people who > > > > have a decent posting history. If I recognize your name or can find > some > > > > posts from you in the archives, that'll be fine, but if you just > joined > > > > yesterday it'll be harder, unless you have a good eBay feedback rating > or > > > > something. For anyone who's wondering about trusting me, I joined the > > > > PDML about five years ago, have an eBay feedback rating of 132 (100% > > > > positive) under the username "chrisbrogden", and have bought/sold > stuff > > > > from/to several PDMLers before. > > > > > > > > Hopefully this goes without saying, but please take good care of the > lens > > > > while you have it. Use a filter if there's a chance of scratching the > > > > glass, and do us the courtesy of paying to have the lens repaired if > it is > > > > damaged (your home insurance might cover that). That being said, the > > > > winner should expect some minor cosmetic wear to the barrel, though > > > > hopefully none to the glass. > > > > > > > > I'm open to suggestions about the random selection process. I could > just > > > > draw a name, but to keep it more public I'm thinking that the 10 > people > > > > could each email me 5 numbers: one from 1-9, one from 10-19, one from > > >
RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >>I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due >>to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I >>think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. >> >>Anyone know if that's true or an urban legend? > >I have heard the same thing. ...and I remember where - there was a series of TV programmes on the BBC a while back. Something like 'Design Icons' or something. The SR-71 featured in one of the shows. The closest I've been is stood just next to a grunt with very large gun, about 30 feet away, getting some shots. We had no restrictions other than no closer than 30 feet. This was at Fairford. The Stealth fighter only rated a 20 foot zone ;-) It was pretty awesome, but for me doesn't have the fearsome appearance of the B-1. The Vulcan is astonishing, graceful. Seen it fly a few times. I think there is one flying example left? Actually, it may have been grounded now. You guys would love it where I live - on one of the outer turns for RAF Brize Norton finals. Tanker squadron based there, VC-10s and Tristars. But they have recently taken delivery of four Boeing C-17s which are pretty cool ships. The cockpit displays are straight out of star Trek TNG. I've seen C-5 Galaxy's coming in, very big Antanovs, sometimes Virgin use Brize for training pilots. They do bumps in Airbuses. In the summer we get a lot of traffic crossing the Brize Norton area and that's great. The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight can be heard whizzing to and fro (Spitfire, Hurricane, Lancaster). Last week I saw a B-17 trundling past. of course we here them first :-) One of our cameramen also flies PPL and in the mid 90's was called to do some air-to-air filming from a Hawk. After they had finished, the pilot let him fly for a while - including turns. I think it took about 6 weeks for the grin to disappear of his face. I was not envious - I'm terrible with motion sickness. Steve (the flying cameraman) took me up in a single-prop low-wing plane (forget which) and I managed 2 G before chickening out. I would be useless in a fast jet. Hot air balloon, that's more my cup of tea. We use a Squirrel for filming big fires, major road accidents etc which means sitting in the cold with the door off. I don't mind that but I avoid anything else where I can. The one nice thing is the RAF are always very accommodating, unlike the Army who are a major PITA, and give us tea and biscuits. That's what I call civilised. Rambling, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: The Great 18-35mm Lens Pass-Around
Hi, Joe. That's a really good deal... they must be making about $5.00 on each lens. Our price in Canada is significantly higher, and the $250 US (10 x $25) covers the price I'd have to pay for it, plus our 14% tax, plus the cost of insuring and mailing the lens to the first person and to the winner. When I had the idea, I was originally thinking that I could pass around any interesting or unusual used lenses I came across, as the price is generally more reasonable. Nothing so far, but I'll keep an eye open... chris On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Joe Wilensky wrote: > Hi, Chris, > > I'm willing to pay $25, but if you based that on assuming 1/10 the > value of the lens, perhaps it is too high. This lens is listed new at > $164.95 at Adorama. Would more people sign on if the rental price > were lower? > > Joe > > > >I got the idea from a khukuri (Nepalese knife) forum I'm on. I don't mind > >lending out stuff (currently my M85/2 is on loan to a friend and my > >K50/1.2 is on loan to a PDMLer), but this seemed like a fun idea. You pay > >1/10 the price of a lens, get to use it for a week or so (think of it as a > >dirt-cheap rental fee), and then you have a 1 in 10 chance of winning the > >lens at the end. > > > >As only 2 people have signed up, I'm wondering why there isn't more > >interest. Is the price too high? Is it the compatibility limitations of > >the missing aperture ring? Security concerns? No interest in the focal > >length? Or do I stink? :) > > > >chris > > >
Re: *istD and Tamron Adaptall2 lenses?
- Original Message - From: "Lon Williamson" Subject: Re: *istD and Tamron Adaptall2 lenses? > I assume you are talking about shutter and program modes rather > than aperature priority? If so, I've seen the same thing. Unfortunately not. I seem to have a lot more problems than most getting correct exposure out of my LXs. Mostly they are OK, but every now and again, perhaps one exposure per roll, I get severe under exposure, for no apparent reason. William Robb
Re: *ist-D K Mount Question
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 7:12 AM Subject: *ist-D K Mount Question > I was playing with an *ist-D and a K lens (the SMC 135 2.5). Shots made wide > open seemed to be exposed pretty well. If I set the lens to a smaller > aperture, I could see it stop down when the shutter was released. But the > exposure and depth of field on the picture appeared to be the same as when > the lens was wide open -- that is, as if the picture was not taken at the > same time that the lens was stopped down. > > Has anyone else noticed the same thing? (Or perhaps my judgment of exposure > and depth of filed was just plain wrong, but I'd expect to see a pretty > obvious difference between shooting at 2.5 and 32). > This is what caused me to think the lens wasn't stopping down during exposure on automatic. It's because it isn't. OTOH, on manual, it seems to work. William Robb
Re: ist-d price in Canada
>From my experience, once the disclaimer goes up then they'll fight it all the way to court. I can't comment on the legality of it, but the price of $2199 could be around or below their cost, so they'll likely just refuse to sell it to people for that price. I used to think that stuff like that was done deliberately to attract people into the store. Now that I've worked for a camera store for a while, I understand how quickly some of these flyers are thrown together and how poor the proofreading is. Doesn't excuse it, but that's how it is. chris On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No you're right Chris, they are selling it for 2,500... But they did > print it in their flyer for 2199 including the lens. I called and they > said they have a disclaimer in the store. Sound like false advertising > to me... If I were in the market for one I might push it a little.. Vic
Re: *ist-D K Mount Question
Hi Steve, on 03 Oct 03 you wrote in pentax.list: >Has anyone else noticed the same thing? I did notice the same. Don't know how to explain that... Cheers, Heiko
Re: *ist-D K Mount Question
Were you shooting in auto exposure or manual exposure mode? The exposure appearing the same would seem to mean that the either the shutter speed or ISO changed for the second exposure. As for DOF, were you shooting something near, or far away? Bill - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:12 AM Subject: *ist-D K Mount Question > I was playing with an *ist-D and a K lens (the SMC 135 2.5). Shots made wide > open seemed to be exposed pretty well. If I set the lens to a smaller > aperture, I could see it stop down when the shutter was released. But the > exposure and depth of field on the picture appeared to be the same as when > the lens was wide open -- that is, as if the picture was not taken at the > same time that the lens was stopped down. > > Has anyone else noticed the same thing? (Or perhaps my judgment of exposure > and depth of filed was just plain wrong, but I'd expect to see a pretty > obvious difference between shooting at 2.5 and 32). > > Steve > >
FS Friday: Refconverter
Petri Refconverter, fits all M series and later cameras including *ist D. Comes with hard leather case and is in very good condition. It swivels 90 degrees to either side of vertical. $US50 including airmail postage anywhere in the world. Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Paul Ewins
FS Friday: Digibino 100
US$90 including airmail postage anywhere in the world. Comes complete with box, cables, CD, manual etc. All in excellent condtion except for the manual which is creased and dog eared. Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia
got my *ist D
Hi all, I decided this morning that I couldn't be bothered waiting for the grip to arrive, so at lunchtime I wandered down to the Camera Exchange to get the body. It turned out that they had been very busy that week and simply hadn't had a chance to unpack the grip, check the invoice for the price and call me. So Jo did the paperwork and the next thing I heard was "ooh, that's expensive, over $450". After a couple of minutes of consternation (I was expecting $300, tops) the invoice was checked again and it turned out that this was the total price for the two that they ordered in. Relief all round. Jo then proceeded to knock another $70 off the price I was first quoted and I walked out of the shop with body and grip for AUD$2845 which is around US$1950 or US$80 more than if I walked into B&H and bought it. By Australian standards that's a reasonable deal. One of the other local retailers had one in the front window for $3300, body only, and I think Leon said that he had to bargain his preferred seller down from $3000. Anyway enough gloating, except to say that I know what I'm going to be doing with my weekend! Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia
Re: Dan Matyola's PUG
Hi, Thursday, October 2, 2003, 10:06:44 PM, you wrote: > Nottingham? Like the Forest? Robin and the Merry Men and all? yes. Except the forest was called Sherwood Forest, and now for some unfathomable reason is called 'The National Forest'. The merry men and their bows and arrows are long gone, but Nottingham has survived to become the gun-crime capital of the UK. According to legend it has the highest ratio of women to men in the country. Not sure if the 2 facts are connected. I have some very pleasant personal memories of Nottingham from my teenage years :o) -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Making monopod out of tripod
> Fra: Cameron Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 01:42 AM, >>> > >>> So, perhaps a quick question to all who have been using tripod and > >>> also > >>> monopod, when do you use monopod ? > >> > > > > I use mine on a medium format camera. It adds some stability without > > taking away as much flexibility as the tripod. > > > > Also it is great for scaring off aggressiv dogs ;-) > > > > I've got a Manfrotto monopod with an old, small, hand made Czech ball > > head. > > > Just keep the three legs of the tripod together and boom, instant > monopod. And you can still use it as a tripod. Doesn't anyone else do > this? Sure, if I want to carry a lot of extra weight... DagT
Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting
Bob Walkden a écrit: Hi, living here in London (England!) I see it quite often, most recently this weekend. Even though it's quite a commonplace sight, people still stop to look. It's an amazing piece of work and a great pity it's on the way out. I wish they'd sell it to Virgin so it could keep flying. I first saw it in the early 1980s. I was at a summer evening jazz concert in Kew Gardens, which is on the flight path for Heathrow. Humphrey Littleton and Ronnie Scott were playing in the Temperate House, while the audience was wandering around drinking champagne and eating strawberries in the grounds. Just as the concert ended and the sun finally died, Concorde came over, very, very low, and the fireworks display started. It was a perfect moment. Sometimes you don't need a camera. I live close to Toulouse where Concorde made his first flight and have been manufactured. I saw him often flying. For those that worked to his manufacture the stop of voles of Concorde was like a mourning. Michel
