Re: Anyone want to buy a film fridge?
You'll know by some balcony shots http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=309520 .. citysider :) Yourself? Rgds, Ryan - Original Message - From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:29 AM Subject: Re: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? Yes, Ryan, I couldn't find any cold-stored film anywhere. BTW, where are you in Brisbane? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? John, they've taken away the 2 or 3 fridges?? Is that saying that Velvia's now in a shelf display? Haven't been down to PC lately but I expect to go down when they give me a call to pick up a tripod case I ordered. Will take a look.. That's disappointing. Cheers, Ryan From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? On this topic, I noticed that my better local camera store, Photo Continental, has dropped it's cool storage for film, where you could buy film batches in ten-packs, and all film is now relegated to tumble displays without the option - a definite indicator that they consider digital to be more important. In addition, a recent store revamp has given two-thirds of the space to digital, and film SLR's are now occupying the rear corner of the floor! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? ...because it looks as if a lot of camera shops are going to be selling them soon. I just stopped in at my local store and discovered that they've cut down from three film refrigerators to one, and that one is only about 1/3 filled. I think I'm probably going to be *forced* to buy my film by mail order before too long. I'm wondering if we're hitting the knee in the curve of digital replacing film. As more people go digital the demand for film drops, causing retailers to stock less film...which gives more people incentive to go digital...which makes the shops reduce film stock further...and so on in a self-stoking cycle. This kind of process starts out slow but accelerates wildly once a certain threshold is crossed. I expect professional-grade films and consumer films will hit this point at different times but I think it may be happening now with respect to the good stuff. Time to start scrounging money for an *ist-D. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Ok I finally got to ask why LXen
Had a look at your gallery David. Did you know Big Ben has a crack? To start with someone (interfering with the design) increased the weight of the hammer and that cracked the bell quite soon. A lighter hammer was installed and the bell turned through 90 degrees. It's been ringing ever since - with the crack. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Original Message - From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:23 AM Subject: Re: Ok I finally got to ask why LXen Bob wrote: http://www.web-options.com/x-nouns.html Hmm, I'll have to keep this list for the next time I play Scrabble. Hmm, equinox on a triple word score... Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 2
I don't think my friend Mic would appreciate that very much, but thanks for the comment. It was a bit sharper but somehow uploading has a softening effect.. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Thinker by Ryan Lee, Australia I like it. Fishing is a smelly business - rename it 'The Stinker' :-) Good capture in harsh light.
Re: Pentax *ist D vs. Fujifilm S2 Pro: same pictures in same conditions
Hello Rüdiger, You wrote: Have you also compared the AF of the MZ-S with the *istD. About fast-moving subjects, maybe the MZ-S can get one extra shot during the same time (say 6 frames while the *ist D takes 5). Somebody on a German userforum reported, that the low light abillity is better on the MZ-S. Yes, I also confirm that. On a given subject, the MZ-S still works about one EV lower than the *ist D. How is the AF-speed of the S2. Have you also done such a car-test. No. I only tried the same car with the same driver, same speed, etc. with the MZ-S, and I got one extra shot. Looking on the test results on pdreview, it is obvious, that the S2pro is better than the 10D, D100 or SD9. Do you know, how the *istD compares to the 10D and D100? No. Dario
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 1
Cotty wrote: Got Carrot? by Pat Kong, USA A first PUG entry for Pat. Nice effort - that shot is crying out for a just a head shot on the nag. Not easy as they move on a whim. Shoot ASAP for the banker shot, then move forward trying again. If he moves, use the first and crop in. Of course you might like all the trees and headroom in which case ignore me! It was fun putting together this entry. From picking the shot, to scanning the negative (a rookie there) and cleaning up the dust spots (took a bit of trial error). Then editting. I contemplated cropping everyone out except the pony. But for some reason, the lines of the fencing kept grabbing my attention. I guess I could have cropped some of the trees out of the background and still have the fencing left. The horse stood still while I was at that distance. I was out of carrots he knew it. As I got closer, he took off for the other side of the pen. Dang. Thanks for the comments. Pat in SF __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: PUG November is open
Wendy wrote: --ok, there *have* to be dog owners among us. Where are your canine shots??? http://www.muddypawz.net/photos/125_2581_JFR_w.jpg Now, that's more like it. I seem to recall you got a new pup recently. Which of the two bookend canines is it? Pat in SF __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: Focus Weight
You don't know what is loose until you tried the FA135/2.8. :-) Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan The FA 100mm f/2.8 Macro is what I'd call loose :) _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Macro photography with enlarging lenses
I took a few shots with my 135mm El Nikkor mounted on a autobellows for the first time today. Pentax SL Tmax 100 F22 Vivitar 285 Flash Full power manual http://jcoconnell.com/temp/32pickup01s.jpg http://jcoconnell.com/temp/cobra01s.jpg http://jcoconnell.com/temp/whtmclaren01s.jpg I like the perspective better than the 80mm exeriments and the lighting is more even because the flash was further from the cars. Depth of field is still a problem, next time I will try F32 and switch to Tmax 400. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
RE: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 1
Border Delight by Zoomshot, UK Another all digital capture, and what a stunner. Flowers on black background always look great, the very direct light playing on the petals creating interesting patterns. A closer square crop would add rather than detract, for me. A closer crop would look better but I wanted to post full frame. Thanks for your comments. Ziggy
Re: Macro photography with enlarging lenses
I've been meaning to drill a lens cap (or thin plastic disk) and attach an aperture with a small hole -- say 300 - 500 um -- to improve depth of field for similar experiments. You should be able to achieve f128 with a small enough hole. And since your objects are not likely to move you can exposure with multiple flashes on 'B'. A way to make an aperture might be to prick a hole in aluminium foil and stick that over a larger hole in the cap or disk. To blacken the foil, after the work has been done, hold it over burning benzene (perhaps paraffin would do) in the lid of a jar. To be carried out in the open air away from your dwelling. Now we need an expert to calculate the size of the holes needed. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: Macro photography with enlarging lenses I took a few shots with my 135mm El Nikkor mounted on a autobellows for the first time today. Pentax SL Tmax 100 F22 Vivitar 285 Flash Full power manual http://jcoconnell.com/temp/32pickup01s.jpg http://jcoconnell.com/temp/cobra01s.jpg http://jcoconnell.com/temp/whtmclaren01s.jpg I like the perspective better than the 80mm exeriments and the lighting is more even because the flash was further from the cars. Depth of field is still a problem, next time I will try F32 and switch to Tmax 400. JCO -- -- J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -- --
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 1
on 02.11.03 19:18, Cotty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bee... by Sylwester Pietrzyk, Poland This one caught my eye the minute the PUG started spitting up thumbnails. Striking composition with lots of parallels - the petals and greenery at left, the curve of the bee's body with the soft petal behind - it all works very well indeed. Nice colour. The crop - I think i would prefer tighter or looser - always a difficult decision with something like this. The focus on the bee has to be sharp as a pin, and it's not far off. Depth of field at these distances are tighter than a natt's chuff and Sylwester has done well. Fine shot, well done. Thanks a lot Cotty! And thanks for the joke - it made my monday morning smiley ;-) Anyway, you have to try Polish mead if you can (póltorak or dwójniak are the best - they are made in 1:1.5 or 1:2 proportions water to honey respectively), of course possible only thanks to bees ;-) -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: AF080C
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 17:24:48 + (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: The manual for this ring-flash says that it's suitable for just a few lenses (50/100 Macro etc). Why is that? Has anybody used it with other, reasonably close-focusing or inverted lenses? I have the FA50/1.7 and the 75-150/4 (inv) in mind, or the F28-80/3.5-4.5. Kostas I used to own one of these and used it with a few different lenses - Pentax FA100/f2.8, Sigma 105/f2.8 (both 58mm filter and no problem of vignetting) and also with an FA50/f1.4 mounted on a bellows - both normally mounted and reverse mounted. The flash itself also accepts a 58mm lens cap, so you can protect your lens while leaving the flash attached (it doesn't protect the flash tube however). It was a nice flash, but ring flashes reflect horribly off water surfaces and I ended up with too many images with a reflection of the ring on the water surface. I now use an AF360FGZ with a second flash head surgically attached. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 2
On 2/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: cotty wrote: Scrabble Champ by Ann Sanfedele , USA Nice profile by Annsan of a Scrabble player, well executed by an observant lady. I think I'd go in on the face - you know he's playing Scrabble, but there's no way of knowing it by looking at the pic. Go close, or pull out and show us the board. Difficult to do as the face and board are so far apart. Are you allowed to walk about during these competitions? The lighting is superb. Well done Ann. __ Thanks, Cotty! Just for information . The only reason I was allowed to be _this_ close to the game at the Nationals in 1992 was that I was working the tournament at the time as a word judge, I was shooting _without_ a flash and both Joe and his opponent are used to me hanging around the table in this kind of situation. I actually did do word judging on this particular game. For this tournament, I was not the official photog but I had been in 1983 when the person you cant see opposite Edley was the winner (Joel Wapnick). This was the final game of the tournament and Joel and Joe were playing for pretty big bucks. The lighting was what it was because the local TV guys were set up with powerful strobes. The reflections from the board and the white table cloth were intense so it is intentionally eliminated. I was able to shoot only a few frames very quickly. That being said, my full frame shot is actualy a bit more interesting - and a bit more of the board shows. This cropping was one I was working on for the WINNERS calendar I've just completed - and on the cover of that he is cropped even more (as you suggest.) I was shooting with a 50 mm and standing just to the right of the TV camera tripod setup, and using manual rewind. As the ALL STARS tournament is going to be on ESPN (they say) next Sunday, I though it would be nice to have one of them in the PUG. Frankly, I was careless with this PUG entry - just racing to get it in at the last moment.. it needs fiddling with. As to are you allowed to just walk around - that varies - but in this situration the other players were kept back. There were two people sitting at the table annotating the game, the tourney director was close by, there were a number of news people, and me. Thanks or the info Ann. Very interesting. In those situations, I have learned over the years that I tend not to give away too much when it comes to covering events or contests. I find organisers (quite rightly) are over protective of their charges and faff accordingly. Hence, if I'm working (tv news) then I will enter the room and chat amiably to the press relations person or organiser - usually prodding for a cup of tea as that always gets me off on a goof foot ;-) and puts them at ease giving them a line of command to follow up with an underling. Then I pick a nice quiet spot far away from the action and set up my sticks, dropping bags and gear their. This effectively becomes my base camp. The organiser usually asks something like 'ok are you happy here?' and dashes off to greet others. My position is selected on appropriateness for a nice big wide shot, and subsequent steady shots on the end of the bottle for big close-ups like concentrating sweaty faces etc. Once under way, I pick off a few of these, and then quite happily unlock the camera from the baseplate, hoik it onto my shoulder, and wander at will. The looks on some of the organisers' faces - shock! He's not staying put! Horrors! I then roam at will, as quietly and decisively as possible, no hesitation, getting different angles, lots of close wides, different heights, some from the floor, some from standing on top of a chair. In a large quiet room full of people, it is almost pysically impossible for an organiser or press bod to move about and restrain us (I won't be the only one sometimes) because people are afraid of drawing attention to themselves. It took me fully 6 months to get past this phase and now it's not a problem. I just think of the paycheck. If I'm shooting stills for pleasure, same deal. The roaming goes on for a max of 5 minutes, then I'm done. I go on the assumption that it's better for a quick 5 minutes of quiet activity than half an hour of constant shuffling about from the back trying to improve an unimprovable view. The most important thing with people like actors, models, artists, athletes, competitors, is not to get in their eye-line. Actors especially. Puts them right off. Otherwise, they're fair game IMO. We once turned up to shoot a choir practising in a lovely old barn. The organiser (a charity) was keen to oblige us but the musical director was being ultra precious and kept throwing wobblies. First he wouldn't let us put up a couple of 2Ks (lights) then he was saying we could only film one number, and once only (usually like to get at least two runs of a number, one for a master wide and another for close-ups etc) - - and it was then limiting our ability to do our job effectively. We
Re: Battery consumption (was: have met the *istD and it is ours)
On 2/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I'm also very happy with the build quality of the camera. Nothing seems to fiddly or delicate. I've become very good at removing the CF card! ;-) I just got the D-BG1 grip as well. This seems very plasticy but I'm impressed with the vertical shutter release, complete with Av and Tv dials. It also balances the camera very nicely and gives someplace for my pinky to go. I've been looking or somewhere for my pinky to go for years old boy ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Ok I finally got to ask why LXen
Hi, Monday, November 3, 2003, 7:18:39 AM, you wrote: Had a look at your gallery David. Did you know Big Ben has a crack? To start with someone (interfering with the design) increased the weight of the hammer and that cracked the bell quite soon. A lighter hammer was installed and the bell turned through 90 degrees. It's been ringing ever since - with the crack. I was intrigued to see Dave's 'Roman' clock. The Roman way of telling the time was very different from ours. They had 24 hours in each day, but, because they needed to fit 12 into the daytime, and 12 into the night, and they didn't have mechanical clocks, the length of the hours varied according to the season from 45 to 75 minutes. There's a website about it here: http://www.beaglesoft.com/timehistoryroman.htm Incidentally, converting roman numerals into our arabic format is quite an interesting little programming exercise - try a calculator which reads roman numerals, adds, subtracts, mutiplies and divides, and gives the answer in roman numerals. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer resolution, print lifetime
On 3/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: just about any paper that is designed to work with a variety of printer brands will produce significantly lower print fade resistance than the vendor's own papers. about the only exceptions are the 3rd party ink vendors with their own inks. so all of you who use papers not from your printer vendor, i hope you aren't expecting your prints to last very long. Herb, treat me like a partly-deaf grandmother here. Can you please spell the above out for me - I read a contradictory statement. Thanks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Ok I finally got to ask why LXen
David Mann observed: Recently there were a few small changes made to trademark law in this country. Now if your brand becomes a household name (eg Hoover as above) you risk losing your trademark unless you educate your customers. Recently? This is why Coca-Cola corporation has been sending letters for _decades_ to every published author they notice using coke uncapitalized to refer to sodas in general and, I've heard, putting occasional ads in magazines for writers reminding people that Coke is a proper noun. It's also why we no longer capitalize cellophane, which lost its trademark status for the same reason long ago. Admittedly, I've been known, in some cotexts, to use the word recent to refer to anything that happened since about 1600, but not when referring to changes in US laws. Was there a recent change to what actions count for defending a trademark to make it easier or harder? 'Cause the basic principle you described isn't very new. -- Glenn
OT spam blockers and ebay have you experienced this???
I was annoyed enough when a REPLY to a friend on earthlink got bounced as suspicious mail (she wrote me but had not added me to her address book) When I hit reply to tell a customer who paid with PAYPAL that I was mailing her stuff today the mail bounced. I was puzzled because I had sent a notice she had won which didnt bounce. turns out her PAYPAL account is at a different address than her regular ebay account. This make no sense. Has anyone else experienced this? annsan
Re: Just bought an ME Super, but.......
Common problem. My ME super was like this when I got it. Sent it in for service, and it came back to me, good as new. Besides a normal clean lube, and adjust, they replaced a bushing in the camera. Been working like a champ ever since. -Mat Dale Halterman wrote: On Saturday, I bought a used (obviously) but very clean ME Super outfit. It appears there is a problem with the shutter and film winding mechanism, and I'm looking for some help. First, the mirror is in the up position, that is, when you remove the lens, you are looking at the shutter. And the film advance lever appears to be jammed. Nothing happens when I depress the shutter release button, but the film advance lever cannot be moved through its full stoke. At least not without applying a lot more force than it I'm comfortable with. The release button on the bottom of the body was up (depressed) when I got it, but I managed to get it to drop by pushing it with the end of a paper clip. So, any suggestions? I only paid $20 for the whole outfit, including extra lenses, flash, case, filters, and so on, so even if the camera is a paper weight I should be able to sell the rest and get my money out. Would like to use it, though
My PZ-1
I'm glad you're happy with it Dave. I knew you would be. The PZ1 and (p) are very underated cameras that deserve more attention from anyone looking for autofocus. It's a great camera, especially if you get used to its interface... Good stuff Dave Vic Dave Wrote: Whoo Hooo. Finally after 3 years of wanting one, i now have one.(Thanks Vic)It's a heck of a lot quieter than the SF-1,mirror,shutter and motor wind wize.Fits well in my hands and balance well with the Sigma 100-300.(I can see the 100-300 F4 being a help here:-))If the SF-1 gave me sharper images than my mf equipment,then i'm sure this one will be just as good or better. I'm use to the wheels on the D1 so this camera feels comfortable already.Finder is brighter too imo. Reading up and playing with the Hyp M and P.I think this is a great feature.Manual is huge.If its not to busy at work to day i'll start reading. Looks like the TOPDML has a few things to chat about at the next meet.vbg Dave
Re: FA 50/2.8 Macro
My wife has an F 50mm macro. It's the sharpest lens in the house. I bought it for myself, but gave it to her because I don't have an AF body. Dumb, dumb, dumb -Lon David Madsen wrote: I got to shoot one of the FA 50mm macro lenses for a day a few years ago. I took some flower photos at my grandfather's garden and made him a 12x18 print of my favorite shot. The detail was amazing. I was no where near full macro, maybe 18 inches, and every little detail in the flower and it's stalk were clear. Everyone who sees his copy hanging on his wall wants their own copy. It now hangs on several walls. I take no credit for the quality of this photo, I am not usually a nature photographer, all credit goes to this lens (and Fuji Reala film). (snip)
Optio 33L - anyone got one?
What's this camera like to use? Spotted one in a local store today, and that floored me because you never see Pentax in these parts. No viewfinder.. what's THAT like? How long do the batteries last? How slow to use? -Lon
Re: stereo wedding slides
About 13 years ago, I had a colleague show me the two-camera system. He had matched cameras with matched 28 mm lenses. I used my Super Program and KX with unmatched aftermarket 28-80 mm zooms both set to 28 mm. I still got pretty good results. My setup required a tripod bar that held both cameras, a two-tailed shutter release cable to fire both cameras simultaneously, and a viewer, all of which I got from Reel 3D mail-order. The entry cost was pretty reasonable. Each shot required a lot of setup time to make sure both cameras were set correctly and the same. I doubt this method would be practical for wedding photography. What I found interesting was that the more detail in the stereo pair, the more appealing the result. The same level of detail would make a normal photograph looked very cluttered. I tried scanning a slide pair and displaying them on a web page side-by-side. However, I lost so much detail when fitting them both on the monitor that I could not get the stereo effect. If anyone has any suggestions on this, I would love to hear them. Andrew Robinson Jim Apilado wrote: There's a place in California, Reel 3D, that sells a lot of stereo related items. For a few thousand bucks one can get an RBT SLR outfit. Two slrs and mated together that have identical lenses on it (don't know if they are interchangeable). I have seen one such camera outfit. It's a special order item. You can find Stereo Realists, Kodak Stereo cameras, and others on eBay. I think these old cameras are easier to use than the mirror setup like the Pentax stereo adapter. I have one and no longer use it because I have the Realist and also do the side-by-side setup (ESII bodies). Next July, the National Stereo Association is having its convention here in Portland, OR. There probably will be dealers selling stereo outfits as well as images. Jim A. From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:22:35 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: stereo wedding slides Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:22:35 -0500 Well, if I wanted to do it for my clients would it be possible? I'd have to find a lab, and a supplier of viewers I suppose. I thought I saw somewhere that there was a way to do it with a pair of digital p+s, but how would you view it? tv The easy way is to get a 3D camera or a stereo adaptor. (Someday I will stumble across a Pentax stereo adaptor at a garage sale priced at a fraction of its worth, with matching viewer, and ...) I know some folks do the two-camera thing, and I was headed in that direction (planning to use matched Pentax H3 bodies) before I was given my Nishika. (Don't use the Nishika professionally; it's fun but not reliable. If you get a four-lens beastie, hold out for the Nimslo.) I've got ideas for how to cobble together a ViewMaster-like stereo slide viewer for pairs of slides (the Pentax viewer relies on having two half-frame images in one slide), but I haven't tried to build a prototype. Easier to deal with is to use print film. In addition to the (for now) option of getting lenticular prints made, there are stereo print viewers available. One design I've seen uses images that are offset funny: ++ || || ||++ |||| ++|| || || ++ and the viewer is this box with mirrors in it. A friend I don't see often enough (the one who gave me my first H3 in fact) uses that system, and I think he's got a template for printing the pairs off a computer from scans. Then there are the kits that look just like American Civil War era viewers, which the friend who shoots a whole lot of 3D uses. Looks spiffy, works fine, uses straightforward side-by-side pairs just like the 3D photos that were shot during the Civil War. This is what I'd suggest as part of a wedding package, though I'm not sure how much they cost. The retro look of the viewer becomes part of the album viewing (and showing-off) experience. And there's a viewer that's a little harder to use, but is compact and cheap -- molded from a single piece of plastic, and about the size of a comb. No holder for the prints or rail to keep things aligned, but it fits in your pocket. I've got one of those, a gift from the friend who uses the kit-built viewer. What we're doing, since we use four-lens cameras, is to take the four frames of a shot, printed on two 4x6 machine prints with two half-frame images on each; snip the individual images apart with scissors; then paste the two images we want to use (usually the outermost pair if neither of those has the edge cut off because the frame size doesn't _quite_ line up with standard 35mm spacing) to heavy card stock with a glue stick. It would be much spiffier to have a lab print the side-by-side images on one sheet of paper and glue _that_ to the card, but it wouldn't work as a machine print. (And don't forget to reverse the order of the frames.)
Re: Battery consumption (was: have met the *istD and it is ours)
Cotty wrote: On 2/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I'm also very happy with the build quality of the camera. Nothing seems to fiddly or delicate. I've become very good at removing the CF card! ;-) I just got the D-BG1 grip as well. This seems very plasticy but I'm impressed with the vertical shutter release, complete with Av and Tv dials. It also balances the camera very nicely and gives someplace for my pinky to go. I've been looking or somewhere for my pinky to go for years old boy ;-) Yet another line I can't touch... Sighhh. keith Cheers, Cotty
Re: Optio 33L - anyone got one?
Lon wrote: LW What's this camera like to use? Handled one. Not particularly impressed by the build quality, especially along the other Optios. LW No viewfinder.. what's THAT like? Horrible. I wasn't able to take a single unblurred shot at speeds I can easily master with cameras with optical viewfinders propped against the eye socket. LW How long do the batteries last? According to my friend enough not to be of concern. Especially because it takes common AA batteries. LW How slow to use? The menus are intelligible enough without a manual. However one should be advised to use it strictly as a point and shoot. As soon as you try manual settings (white balance, etc.) it gets in the way. Servus, Alin
Re: AF080C
I bought the Vivitar AF6000 on a whim (it was so cheap compared to the 080C or 160C). It worked with full TTL on the LX and also works on the *ist-D. My example is horribly composed and out-of-focus (my fault, not the camera or flash). http://www.xian.us/grasshopper.html The lighting is even but still gives depth. You can clearly see the donut in the grasshopper's eye! Christian - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: Re: AF080C Kostas p.s.: Any ideas about/comparisons of the above with the Vivitar AF6000?
Re: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
Mark, Inspired move - beautiful sceneries! Did you use the flash mounted on the camera for fill-in or did you hold it sideways (Dolly Sods Dawn #3) ? Servus, Alin
Re: stereo wedding slides
Darn. The company just threw away several small Wild(Leica)stereo plotters.Could have digitized pictures that way. They now use a computer system were the user has on electonic 3D glasses and a light source is shot at the glasses.The air photo is brought up on the monitor and the operator sees the 3D image and does the stereo plotting that way. Might be a bit on the costly side though. Just a thought Dave I tried scanning a slide pair and displaying them on a web page side-by-side. However, I lost so much detail when fitting them both on the monitor that I could not get the stereo effect. If anyone has any suggestions on this, I would love to hear them. Andrew Robinson Jim Apilado wrote: There's a place in California, Reel 3D, that sells a lot of stereo related items. For a few thousand bucks one can get an RBT SLR outfit. Two slrs and mated together that have identical lenses on it (don't know if they are interchangeable). I have seen one such camera outfit. It's a special order item. You can find Stereo Realists, Kodak Stereo cameras, and others on eBay. I think these old cameras are easier to use than the mirror setup like the Pentax stereo adapter. I have one and no longer use it because I have the Realist and also do the side-by-side setup (ESII bodies). Next July, the National Stereo Association is having its convention here in Portland, OR. There probably will be dealers selling stereo outfits as well as images. Jim A. From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:22:35 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: stereo wedding slides Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:22:35 -0500 Well, if I wanted to do it for my clients would it be possible? I'd have to find a lab, and a supplier of viewers I suppose. I thought I saw somewhere that there was a way to do it with a pair of digital p+s, but how would you view it? tv The easy way is to get a 3D camera or a stereo adaptor. (Someday I will stumble across a Pentax stereo adaptor at a garage sale priced at a fraction of its worth, with matching viewer, and ...) I know some folks do the two-camera thing, and I was headed in that direction (planning to use matched Pentax H3 bodies) before I was given my Nishika. (Don't use the Nishika professionally; it's fun but not reliable. If you get a four-lens beastie, hold out for the Nimslo.) I've got ideas for how to cobble together a ViewMaster-like stereo slide viewer for pairs of slides (the Pentax viewer relies on having two half-frame images in one slide), but I haven't tried to build a prototype. Easier to deal with is to use print film. In addition to the (for now) option of getting lenticular prints made, there are stereo print viewers available. One design I've seen uses images that are offset funny: ++ || || ||++ |||| ++|| || || ++ and the viewer is this box with mirrors in it. A friend I don't see often enough (the one who gave me my first H3 in fact) uses that system, and I think he's got a template for printing the pairs off a computer from scans. Then there are the kits that look just like American Civil War era viewers, which the friend who shoots a whole lot of 3D uses. Looks spiffy, works fine, uses straightforward side-by-side pairs just like the 3D photos that were shot during the Civil War. This is what I'd suggest as part of a wedding package, though I'm not sure how much they cost. The retro look of the viewer becomes part of the album viewing (and showing-off) experience. And there's a viewer that's a little harder to use, but is compact and cheap -- molded from a single piece of plastic, and about the size of a comb. No holder for the prints or rail to keep things aligned, but it fits in your pocket. I've got one of those, a gift from the friend who uses the kit-built viewer. What we're doing, since we use four-lens cameras, is to take the four frames of a shot, printed on two 4x6 machine prints with two half-frame images on each; snip the individual images apart with scissors; then paste the two images we want to use (usually the outermost pair if neither of those has the edge cut off because the frame size doesn't _quite_ line up with standard 35mm spacing) to heavy card stock with a glue stick. It would be much spiffier to have a lab print the side-by-side images on one sheet of paper and glue _that_ to the card, but it wouldn't work as a machine print. (And don't forget to reverse the order of the frames.) Printing from scanned images would be another tidy solution. I don't know what 3D cameras are still being made, if any, but apparently there are lots of used 2-lens, 3-lens, and 4-lens units still available. (Unless you want to make lenticular prints you only need two images.)
Re: Enablement!
Hi, Malcolm Smith wrote: There has been some interesting answers to this question! I am surprised at the restraint shown, as I didn't think it was possible (especially a year by Mike Wilson!) ;-) It took me that long to recover from spending so much on a camera. 8-) The only thing I have regretted in getting my LX is that I didn't get one many years ago. Likewise. LOL! My oldest LX needs a new 'coat'. I am quite keen to go for the snakeskin! I fancy something warmer, like hamster mike
Re: Macro photography with enlarging lenses
Hi, Dr E D F Williams wrote: I've been meaning to drill a lens cap (or thin plastic disk) and attach an aperture with a small hole -- say 300 - 500 um -- to improve depth of field for similar experiments. You should be able to achieve f128 with a small enough hole. And since your objects are not likely to move you can exposure with multiple flashes on 'B'. A way to make an aperture might be to prick a hole in aluminium foil and stick that over a larger hole in the cap or disk. To blacken the foil, after the work has been done, hold it over burning benzene (perhaps paraffin would do) in the lid of a jar. To be carried out in the open air away from your dwelling. Now we need an expert to calculate the size of the holes needed. I'm sure I've got either this information in a table or a URL for it somewhere. Will get back to you asap. Anyone need a travelling microscope for measurement? mike
Re: Printer resolution (was: Re: posted *istD Samples)
John, Have you ever used a recent HP at its highest mode? I've got a 5500, but have not performed the test. Sharper 4x6, maybe? No. I print 8x10s (or larger, now) - I suspect I've got a pack of 6x4 paper somewhere, but I haven't used it in years. It's hard enough to come up with even 600dpi for an 8x10; 6MP from an *ist-D doesn't come close, and neither does the 10MP I get from my 2700ppi Nikon Coolscan III. Even a 4000ppi scan only just manages to get to 600dpi for a full-frame 10 print. I doubt if I'll ever come up with a 1200ppi source image. Mind you, as Herb points out, even 600ppi is probably pushing the limits of what is physically reproducible on paper media. I didn't choose the (600ppi) HP over the (360ppi) Epson because of resolution; I chose it because I'm concerned about clogging after periods of not being used, and I like the fact that the HP inkheads are in the cartridge, and so can be replaced easily. I was also swayed by the fact that HP now use the same cartridge in almost all their printers - I'm somewhat tempted by the tiny 6x4 printer, and it would be nice to be able to move over the cartridges from the big printer rather than having two sets of cartridges to worry about. If I do get one of those I might be able to try a 1200ppi print.
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 1
On 3/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: What I do think is that each of us must find his or her own way, and believe in it. Then can be respected. that's all sounding remarkably Zen, Cotty. Are you turning Japanese? Zen and the Art of Macintosh Maintenance ;-) No, just enjoying this mellowing out lark as I get older... Sorta like the.a...the 'LX' feeling... but without the LX :-( Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
On 3/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: A couple of weeks ago I went on a one-night camping trip to a place in West Virginia called the Dolly Sods Wilderness. For those who want to cut to the chase and skip the extended exposition, the photos are here - http://www.robertstech.com/dolly_s.htm [snip] BEAUTIFUL stuff mark, great work. If I was half the trooper you are, I'd be riding a blooming great big horse across Canada in a red jacket and pointy hat. Seriously, well done that man. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
Mark, I just read an article on luminous which has finally got me working sensibly with layers. I think it would be of great benefit for you and any others with dark areas in photos - extracts a surprising amount of detail! http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/u-contr ast-masking.shtml Another MUST READ for any DSLR users. -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2003 14:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long) A couple of weeks ago I went on a one-night camping trip to a place in West Virginia called the Dolly Sods Wilderness. For those who want to cut to the chase and skip the extended exposition, the photos are here - http://www.robertstech.com/dolly_s.htm It all began this past summer when I did the art show in Morgantown, WV. One of the shots that received a lot of favorable attention was of the top of Linville Peak on Grandfather Mountain shortly after dawn (http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d101932.htm). Many of the people who liked it asked is that Dolly Sods? I'd never heard of the place and several extolled its virtues. One came back several times to recommend that I take a trip there to get some photos. Fast forward to mid-October when I found myself at home alone for the weekend. My S.O. had gone to a conference and I was left behind to entertain myself. Some time after lunch on Saturday I thought why not check out that Dolly Sods place everyone told me about in Morgantown? I located it (roughly) on a map, threw a tent, sleeping bag, small cooler of food and water and some camera gear in my car and set off around 2:00 p.m. It ended up being almost a 4 hour drive to the Dolly Sods Wilderness, not including the final 9 miles of very rough, unpaved road to my eventual campsite. Some of the final back roads to this area aren't particularly well marked. At the entrance there is a map which shows the one road that passes through Dolly Sods, indicating a campground about 9 miles from the entrance. Upon arriving at the camp grounds, I found every camp site occupied so I proceeded down the road; the map had indicated that roadside camping was permissible farther on, but there were no signs in the area to show where. I eventually settled on a spot that had a ring of stones for a campfire and an obvious camp site, even though I was pretty sure I hadn't gone far enough to be in the area where primitive camping was allowed; it was getting dark and I had to get settled in quickly while I still had some daylight. I should mention at this point that it was already completely socked in with clouds/fog. Dolly Sods itself is a plateau that rises about 2000 feet above the surrounding countryside (I have no idea how high that is, but West Virginia is fairly mountainous). The road had been climbing steadily for miles before I got to Dolly Sods and had kept on doing so all the way to the camp site. It's a place that had a very primitive atmosphere. The place I would most compare it to would be Dartmoor. Even though the two places are quite different in many respects, they have the same sort of mysterious feel. They do share an abundance of bracken fern (or something similar)... and of course there was the fog. I would imagine that the hound of the Baskervilles would feel quite at home at Dolly Sods. I set up camp and settled in, expecting at any moment to be confronted by a ranger of some sort telling me I couldn't camp there, but darkness set in completely and I was left undisturbed to wonder if I had wasted my time coming all that way only to spend 12-14 hours in pea soup fog and not get any photos. Some time around 3:00 a.m. I was awakened by bright light. My first thought was that I had indeed been found by someone who knew I wasn't allowed to be camping in that spot, but I quickly realized that the tent was to evenly illuminated for the light to be coming from any man-made source. It was, in fact, the moon. While I had slept the sky had cleared completely and an almost-full moon was casting a light strong enough to have woken me up and to give the landscape an ever more eerie appearance. Now I suddenly had a sunrise to look forward to! As sunrise was to come at around 7:15, I had planned to sleep in until 6:00 or so but I woke at 5:00 a.m. and knew I wouldn't be able to go back to sleep so I got up, packed the tent and sleeping bag into the car and hefted my LowePro Photo Trekker pack onto my back. It was still quite dark, despite the moon, and I had no idea where to go to get a good view at dawn. But I knew there was nothing interesting back in the direction from which I'd come so I set off ahead down the road. I recalled the park map indicating some kind of scenic viewing area somewhere ahead, but had little clue of how far away it
Re: My PZ-1
Congratulations Dave and also to Frank for his LX enablement. I also purchased a PZ-1P from a friend and am very happy with it. It will take me a while to get familiar with the camera but from the initial shots I think this will be my go-to camera from now on. Anybody interested in a ZX-5n? Bought from a fellow PDML'er and had only 6 rolls shot through since I got it. Email me if anybody is interested. Otherwise it's going to ebay. In the meantime, here are photos taken with the PZ-1p and 28-105mm power zoom: http://www.photos.ph/freckles/Disney It's hard to compose any shot when you are made the official photographer of the group and have to shoot on the fly. Enjoy! Francis M. Alviar Irvine, CA __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inspired move - beautiful sceneries! Did you use the flash mounted on the camera for fill-in or did you hold it sideways (Dolly Sods Dawn #3) ? Don't think I used any fill flash on that one. BTW: I was using the AF280T (on the MZ-S) with the 24mm lens, even though that flash only covers 28mm. The rocks in the foreground didn't go all the way to the left or right edge of the frame and I got coverage at the bottom of the frame by setting the flash head at the 15-degree downward angle intended for macro. Worked out nicely! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
Fogot to mention - fabulous adventure and fabulous photos. I am really jealous! -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 03 November 2003 17:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long) Mark, I just read an article on luminous which has finally got me working sensibly with layers. I think it would be of great benefit for you and any others with dark areas in photos - extracts a surprising amount of detail! http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-seri es/u-contr ast-masking.shtml Another MUST READ for any DSLR users. -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2003 14:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long) A couple of weeks ago I went on a one-night camping trip to a place in West Virginia called the Dolly Sods Wilderness. For those who want to cut to the chase and skip the extended exposition, the photos are here - http://www.robertstech.com/dolly_s.htm It all began this past summer when I did the art show in Morgantown, WV. One of the shots that received a lot of favorable attention was of the top of Linville Peak on Grandfather Mountain shortly after dawn (http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/7d101932.htm). Many of the people who liked it asked is that Dolly Sods? I'd never heard of the place and several extolled its virtues. One came back several times to recommend that I take a trip there to get some photos. Fast forward to mid-October when I found myself at home alone for the weekend. My S.O. had gone to a conference and I was left behind to entertain myself. Some time after lunch on Saturday I thought why not check out that Dolly Sods place everyone told me about in Morgantown? I located it (roughly) on a map, threw a tent, sleeping bag, small cooler of food and water and some camera gear in my car and set off around 2:00 p.m. It ended up being almost a 4 hour drive to the Dolly Sods Wilderness, not including the final 9 miles of very rough, unpaved road to my eventual campsite. Some of the final back roads to this area aren't particularly well marked. At the entrance there is a map which shows the one road that passes through Dolly Sods, indicating a campground about 9 miles from the entrance. Upon arriving at the camp grounds, I found every camp site occupied so I proceeded down the road; the map had indicated that roadside camping was permissible farther on, but there were no signs in the area to show where. I eventually settled on a spot that had a ring of stones for a campfire and an obvious camp site, even though I was pretty sure I hadn't gone far enough to be in the area where primitive camping was allowed; it was getting dark and I had to get settled in quickly while I still had some daylight. I should mention at this point that it was already completely socked in with clouds/fog. Dolly Sods itself is a plateau that rises about 2000 feet above the surrounding countryside (I have no idea how high that is, but West Virginia is fairly mountainous). The road had been climbing steadily for miles before I got to Dolly Sods and had kept on doing so all the way to the camp site. It's a place that had a very primitive atmosphere. The place I would most compare it to would be Dartmoor. Even though the two places are quite different in many respects, they have the same sort of mysterious feel. They do share an abundance of bracken fern (or something similar)... and of course there was the fog. I would imagine that the hound of the Baskervilles would feel quite at home at Dolly Sods. I set up camp and settled in, expecting at any moment to be confronted by a ranger of some sort telling me I couldn't camp there, but darkness set in completely and I was left undisturbed to wonder if I had wasted my time coming all that way only to spend 12-14 hours in pea soup fog and not get any photos. Some time around 3:00 a.m. I was awakened by bright light. My first thought was that I had indeed been found by someone who knew I wasn't allowed to be camping in that spot, but I quickly realized that the tent was to evenly illuminated for the light to be coming from any man-made source. It was, in fact, the moon. While I had slept the sky had cleared completely and an almost-full moon was casting a light strong enough to have woken me up and to give the landscape an ever more eerie appearance. Now I suddenly had a sunrise to look forward to! As sunrise was to come at around 7:15, I had planned to sleep in until 6:00 or so but I woke at 5:00 a.m. and knew I wouldn't be able to go back to sleep so I got up, packed the tent and sleeping bag into the car and hefted my LowePro Photo Trekker pack onto my back. It was still quite dark,
Re: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, I just read an article on luminous which has finally got me working sensibly with layers. I think it would be of great benefit for you and any others with dark areas in photos - extracts a surprising amount of detail! http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/u-contr ast-masking.shtml Not only am I familiar with that technique, I used it on the foreground of shots 6 7 (next-to-last row) :) Another MUST READ for any DSLR users. Absolutely. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Battery consumption (was: have met the *istD and it is ours)
Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: On 2/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I'm also very happy with the build quality of the camera. Nothing seems to fiddly or delicate. I've become very good at removing the CF card! ;-) I just got the D-BG1 grip as well. This seems very plasticy but I'm impressed with the vertical shutter release, complete with Av and Tv dials. It also balances the camera very nicely and gives someplace for my pinky to go. I've been looking or somewhere for my pinky to go for years old boy ;-) Yet another line I can't touch... Sighhh. You could have offered him a suggestion or two... ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
BTW: I used fill flash only on shots 4 6 - as far as I can remember ;) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: DSLR Enablement needed.
I bought it last week for $1375. At that price, he wouldn't take a credit card, only a check. Of course, he also sold me a 512 MB compact flash card. ! I didn't have much time to check it out yet, but I grade it a an A for ease of use. For this test, I ignored the manuals, and just opened up the camera, inserted the batteries and the memory card, pointed it at something (in this case a maple tree with orange leaves against a blue sky), turned the camera on, point, shot, took out the memory card, stuck it in the printer, hit the print button, and waited to see what came out. The results were quite nice, IMO. Now I have to see what it can do when I learn how to use the camera and then run the shots through photoshop. Dan graywolf wrote: Better buy it before he comes to his senses. He is not making 10%, he probably is not making cost (dealer-price + overhead) at that price. Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I questioned it as well. He claims that's 10% over his cost, which he will give to his best customer. . . arnie wrote: $1375?? where is this? at that price i would run, not walk, to nj. arnie - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:24 AM Subject: DSLR Enablement needed. I visited my favorite local camera store here in Central New Jersey, USA, last night. They finally received the long-pomised *istd, and called me to let me know. I really liked the feel and operation of the camera. The price, $1375 for body only, didn't seem out of line. Still I hesitate. Will the price come down in the near future? Will Pentax come out with an upgraded version soon, as they did to me with the Optio S earlier this year? Is it really worth all that money? Will I need to buy a new lens right away to take full advantage of its capabilities? Decision, decisions.
Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
Take it easy...:-) I already have a 6x6 projector. If I was to buy a 6x7 projector, I would save up for a Götschmann. http://www.goetschmann.de/ :-) Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors. On 3/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Jostein wrote: There is a dual 35mm/6x6 projector from Rollei. Nothing for 6x7, afaik. For 6x7 slides there's the Pro Cabin projector distributed by Mamiya. It doesn't do 35mm though. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/ home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=12152is=REG Its on my wish list. My very long wish list... By the Hordes of Zoltan! Jostein will be in MAJOR enablement mode now To Jostein: No. No, boy. It's too big. No room for it in the house. You've only just had an *ist D. Shipping from New York would be cost prohibitive - it needs its own forty foot container. No, hold on boy Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Enablement! + film camera pricing.
mike wilson wrote: Malcolm Smith wrote: There has been some interesting answers to this question! I am surprised at the restraint shown, as I didn't think it was possible (especially a year by Mike Wilson!) ;-) It took me that long to recover from spending so much on a camera. 8-) I know what you mean (!) but I don't think a better deal can be done today. I looked at prices of film cameras and lenses to see if I could get one or two reasonably priced lenses for my 67, under the impression that so many people migrating to digital would cause a price slump. The prices are as good as they were a few years back. I then looked at LX prices and found the same result; prices are as good as they were when I bought mine; if anything I got a better deal on them. Whatever the impact of digital, film cameras seem to have retained their value, judging from adverts and the eBay auctions I've often followed with more than a passing interest. Malcolm
Re: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I was half the trooper you are, I'd be riding a blooming great big horse across Canada in a red jacket and pointy hat. Thank you. I think. (That's the second most bizarre compliment I've ever received.) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: *ist D reaches Tyneside!!!
Mike Wilson wrote: p.s. I couldn't think of anything for the running water side but I suppose the fact that the river Tyne has gone from something you would want to keep well upwind of on a sunny day, to England's premier salmon river might do it.. The electricity at Cragside was generated with running water, from reservoirs in the grounds, and using turbines designed by Armstrong. The house also boasted hot and cold running water, and a hydraulically powered passenger lift and other bits of equipment. Well worth a visit. http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/traveltrade/propertydetails.cfm?property_id =195 I used to live in Wylam, where Hedley, Hackworth and Stephenson did so much pioneering railway stuff. It was also the home of Charles Parsons, the inventor of the steam turbine, and designer of 'Turbinia'. Steve.
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 1
On 2 Nov 2003 at 18:18, Cotty wrote: Water Lilies by Katrin, Germany Katrin's first PUG submission and it's a serene study of water lillies with some gorgeous blooms, shot on Kodak's first class emulsion 'Farbwelt ', apparently. I put that through Babel and pops out as 'colour world', what jolly fun. Considering it's a straight scan, it's a nice effort Katrin. Very Japanesey ;-) Thank you very much for your comment ^_^ I like the colors in the print better, but I'm not very good at photoshop and I'm sitting too much in front of the pc already so I don't feel like getting deeply involved with it... I've not idea what that film is in English ^_^ It's just the Standard Kodak film you get everywhere If you translate color world into Japanese you would probably get something like sekai no iru ;-) ... now since I make japanesey pictures maybe I make it finally to Japan ^_- bye Katrin ** Desertrose Chris' Katrin's X Japan homepage! Please visit it! http://www.xjapan.de * From now on I will try to live for you and for me. I will live with love...with dreams... and forever with tears.. **
RE: LXist
-- -Original Message- -- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:17 PM -- -- -- - Original Message - -- From: Cesar Matamoros II -- Subject: RE: LXist -- -- -- Cotty, -- -- For the cause I will gladly let my name be known for the mentioned -- collective noun. -- -- Umm, someone has to ask this. -- -- Would a person buying several LXes then be doing a Cesar -- Metamorphosis? -- -- WW. -- I have heard people referring to me as the one with all those cameras...:-) Good one William. Catching up from being in Louisiana for the weekend, César Panama City, Florida
RE: LXist
-- -Original Message- -- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:13 AM -- -- -- - Original Message - -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Umm, someone has to ask this. -- -- Would a person buying several LXes then be doing -- a Cesar Metamorphosis? -- -- WW. -- -- -- and you would be the person to ask it. -- -- WAAA WAAA WAAA -- -- Christian -- Christian, You are probably kicking yourself for not having penned it here first :-) Will definitely be carting at least one with me on the trip north, César Panama City, Florida
RE: LXist
-- -Original Message- -- From: Larry Levy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 3:18 PM -- -- -- Joe asked: -- A flock of LXs? -- A herd of LXs? -- A gaggle of LXs? -- An exaltation of LXs? -- -- Grammarians on the list, please help. -- -- From my being a member of this list for only a relatively -- short time, the -- answer is evident: -- -- A pride of LXes -- -- Larry -- Probably the best one I have heard yet. LX owners know... ;-) César Panama City, Florida
RE: LXist
-- -Original Message- -- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:39 AM -- -- On 31/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: -- -- For the cause I will gladly let my name be known for the mentioned -- collective noun. -- -- Umm, someone has to ask this. -- -- Would a person buying several LXes then be doing a Cesar -- Metamorphosis? -- -- And surely if it can rain cats and dogs it can hale Cesars? -- -- -- Cheers, -- Cotty -- -- -- ___/\__ -- || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps -- _ -- Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk -- Wow, no wonder my ears have been ringing all this time... But fret not Cotty, I will not require you to bow down to me and kiss my LX, Cesar Panama City, Florida
Re: My PZ-1
Thanks Francis. I probably will make this the go to camera aswell and back up with the K1000 and SP500. Those are nice shots with the 28-105 PZ.Is that the 3.2 lens or the 4.5 one(i think those are the f stops) I have the smc f 35-70 macro and a Sigma 100-300,but was thinking of adding the 28-105. Both Vic and Brendan have metioned to me its a pretty good lens,and your photos seem to show it. I have read some online reviews and they mainly have as a con, the distortion at either end.I can see a bit in one photo,but how do you find it yourself. Dave(still with way to many cameras)Brooks But i did give one back t my sister,a K1000 not being used.:-) Congratulations Dave and also to Frank for his LX enablement. I also purchased a PZ-1P from a friend and am very happy with it. It will take me a while to get familiar with the camera but from the initial shots I think this will be my go-to camera from now on. Anybody interested in a ZX-5n? Bought from a fellow PDML'er and had only 6 rolls shot through since I got it. Email me if anybody is interested. Otherwise it's going to ebay. In the meantime, here are photos taken with the PZ-1p and 28-105mm power zoom: http://www.photos.ph/freckles/Disney It's hard to compose any shot when you are made the official photographer of the group and have to shoot on the fly. Enjoy! Francis M. Alviar Irvine, CA __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
RE: Enablement!
Frank, We (LX owners - and dare I say it, former owners) greet you into The Little Brotherhood. Let the merriment begin - woohoo! Concerning GFM, if they greeted me with open arms you are in there buddy... Got my confirmation to GFM, should be a great time. Wondering if I should bring all five with me too, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:48 AM -- -- -- Ah, yes. I guess I'm now a member of The Little -- Brotherhood, aren't I? -- -- Does this mean I won't be shunned at GFM? -- -- -frank -- -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible -- worlds. The pessimist -- fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- -- -- -- -- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- -- Only one thing to say to you Frank -- -- Congrats boy - you've.arrived. -- -- ;-) -- --
RE: Enablement!
Frank, Good on you ol' boy I was hoping that was what you were getting when you began the tease. Now I have to show you the secret handshake ;-) Okay, maybe just the wink. Enjoy the camera, I know you will. Accessories can wait. I did for quite a while. As for the snakeskin, you can see my two at GFM - they are beauties, in spite of what some people say... Always challenging to me as to which ones I take out for a spin. One can always find enjoyment in craftsmanship and art, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 7:57 PM -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Enablement! -- -- -- So, today I got me an LX. -- -- Bought it from Vic MacBournie, who I met for the first time. -- Real nice guy; -- we sat down for a few beers to chat about life in general, -- and cameras in -- particular. -- -- He threw in a couple of extra goodies, but basically I got -- the LX, with two -- screens (grid and split screen), and the small grip. -- -- Unfortunately, it only has the standard leatherette (I was -- hoping for -- snakeskin). Other than that, it's a beauty! I fear that my -- MX may get a -- bit of a rest whilst I play with my new toy. vbg So far, -- I haven't -- stopped smiling since I got it. -- -- Except for when I discovered that my Vivitar S1 24-48 broke. -- Vic was -- looking at it, and said, Hey, the aperture won't work. -- And, he was right. -- Likely oil on the blades. Same thing happened last year, -- so I guess it's -- off to the shop. Too bad, as it's become one of my favourite lenses. -- -- But, it still can't dampen my spirits on this day. Ah, the -- joy of it... -- -- cheers, -- frank -- -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible -- worlds. The pessimist -- fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- -- _ -- The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* -- http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3 -- a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmark -- et%3den-ca --
Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
On 3/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Take it easy...:-) I already have a 6x6 projector. If I was to buy a 6x7 projector, I would save up for a Götschmann. http://www.goetschmann.de/ :-) Jostein My God - the size of those things! The big one needs a crew of three including a driver, commander and artillery specialist. It's got Caterpillar tracks on it! Yes, I know you have the 6X6 - remember the wonderful slide show you gave as the lights of Oslo twinkled below Truly awesome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: New digital cameras
You might lose patience with Pentax. Jim A. I've already concluded that. The 10D is looking better and better. OTOH, regarding Pentax, I could always get a MX. Marnie aka Doe :-)
RE: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Rob Brigham wrote: Mark, I just read an article on luminous which has finally got me working sensibly with layers. I think it would be of great benefit for you and any others with dark areas in photos - extracts a surprising amount of detail! http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/u-contr ast-masking.shtml Another MUST READ for any DSLR users. Thanks for pointing out that URL. I just edited a few images from my Optio S. Wow. It brings out a lot of detail from a dark area. (its a little different using The Gimp, but almost the same if you know where everything is). Thanks! -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 2
There is a story about a Russian mathematician (whose name I forget) who was once chided by a British friend about the way he spoke English. His reply was there are 70 million English that speak English like you and 240 million Russians that speak it like me Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/03/03 02:22PM Hi! ===8==Original message text=== KW I won't speak for any Brit, but in the U.S. only those who have not yet KW developed a vocabulary of more than 100 or so words still use that teen-talk. KW Plain truth, it brands one as immature. evil friendly grin KW No, no! Not you, Boris! g KW keith whaley ===8===End of original message text=== That's the main problem of my English. Since most of my English is obtained passively through observation and copying, I often misuse words. Well, naturally, most of my English lessons back in Moscow were mostly either irrelevant or plain forgotten... It would be fascinating to compute size of my Russian and English vocabularies and compare the figures... serious grin But thanks anyway grin... Boris
Re: Enablement! + film camera pricing.
Malcolm Smith wrote: Whatever the impact of digital, film cameras seem to have retained their value, judging from adverts and the eBay auctions I've often followed with more than a passing interest. It's only a matter of time... m Well, it's sure taking it's time. ;-) I keep hoping to pick up some stuff cheap. Wonder *when* they will drop? Marnie aka Doe You'd think they would someday.
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 2
Hi! SD There is a story about a Russian mathematician (whose name I forget) who SD was once chided by a British friend about the way he spoke English. His SD reply was there are 70 million English that speak English like you and SD 240 million Russians that speak it like me Steve, mathematicians tend to overgeneralize things... I really doubt that among 240 (let say, there are that many) million people whose mother's tongue is Russian, there would be 70 million (I've no idea about population of England) who speak any English... But thanks, you made me chuckle... Boris
RE: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
Yeah, I know what you mean - I use Paint Shop Pro which I find far better than Photoshop in every way except that all the tutorials tell you how to do stuff in PS, I have to try and convert that to PSP - was quite simple in this case though as he was very clear and concise. Layers is something I have been putting off, but is my next big curve... -Original Message- From: Chris Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Rob Brigham wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/u-contr ast-masking.shtml Another MUST READ for any DSLR users. Thanks for pointing out that URL. I just edited a few images from my Optio S. Wow. It brings out a lot of detail from a dark area. (its a little different using The Gimp, but almost the same if you know where everything is). Thanks! -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: My PZ-1
Thanks Dave. I like the 28-105 PZ lens a lot though I haven't used it that much since getting it. I have the f/4-5.6 version. Not a fast lens but very capable for daytime shots. It's quite sharp stopped down. http://www.photos.ph/image/75536 But like you said will be prone to distortion like this shot: http://www.photos.ph/image/96862 Just have to watch for such distortion when shooting but otherwise a very good lens for walking about. It balances nicely on a PZ-1(p). I'm positive you will like it if you decide to get one. KEH has three specimens on display right now. Good luck! Francis -- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:36:08 US/Eastern From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My PZ-1 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Francis. I probably will make this the go to camera aswell and back up with the K1000 and SP500. Those are nice shots with the 28-105 PZ.Is that the 3.2 lens or the 4.5 one(i think those are the f stops) I have the smc f 35-70 macro and a Sigma 100-300,but was thinking of adding the 28-105. Both Vic and Brendan have metioned to me its a pretty good lens,and your photos seem to show it. I have read some online reviews and they mainly have as a con, the distortion at either end.I can see a bit in one photo,but how do you find it yourself. Dave(still with way to many cameras)Brooks But i did give one back t my sister,a K1000 not being used.:-) -- __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
Hi, Malcolm Smith wrote: I couldn't see a price - or is it because if you need to know that, you can't afford it. Looks like one of those things where you have to sit down and take a very deep breath before you ask. Or be Norwegian 8-) mike
Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.goetschmann.de/products/g67p.htm I couldn't see a price - or is it because if you need to know that, you can't afford it. Malcolm You are right. I know one projector of a previous model aka the g8585av, http://www.goetschmann.de/products/g8585av.htm that went for about 2500 USD second hand here in Norway. Excellent optics, though...:-) Jostein
Re: LXist
On 3/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: For the cause I will gladly let my name be known for the mentioned collective noun. Umm, someone has to ask this. Would a person buying several LXes then be doing a Cesar Metamorphosis? And surely if it can rain cats and dogs it can hale Cesars? Now what could have precipitated that remark? Can't remember - it's just evaporated from my mind. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It does. Amusing that they use the different, unnamed units for 6x7(cm) and 24x36(mm). An inexperienced user could think that 6x7 was a _very_ small slide indeed mike ...or that 24x36 is an extremely large one...:-) Jostein
Re: Enablement! + film camera pricing.
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's sure taking it's time. ;-) I keep hoping to pick up some stuff cheap. Wonder *when* they will drop? Just a case of looking. There are regular ads for LXs (LX's?) at about or just over the £200 mark in the UK press. They won't be very pretty but they are undoubtledly cheap for what you get. I definitely think that the accessories are cheaper now. What suprises me at the moment is the continuing high cost of Jobo processor parts. mike still working up the nerve to run his first film through the CPE-2.
RE: Enablement!
Cesar wrote: As for the snakeskin, you can see my two at GFM - they are beauties, in spite of what some people say... Ever the diplomat, aren't you, Cesar? But I wouldn't have been offended if you'd written in spite of what ERN says ... ERN
RE: Enablement!
Cesar, about the snaked LXen: Word of warning, they will be at GFM - but I will make sure they keep their distance. That's OK, I'm bringing the bodyguard.
Re: Battery consumption (was: have met the *istD and it is ours)
Over years of ownership, I've constantly got 20 to 30 rolls (of 36) of exposure with the batteries in my PZ1P PZ1 depending on flash usage. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:25 PM Subject: Battery consumption (was: have met the *istD and it is ours) I'd guess that battery consumption shouldn't be that high. That said, I got over 800 shots (~50% flash), from my first set of CRV-3s. this beats the hell out of the Optio 330 which I only get about 80 pictures from a single battery charge . How would that compare to a PZ-1p or other modern, AF SLR?
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 2
In fact, you're doing very well! Your accent is barely noticeable... I wouldn't worry about a thing! g keith Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! ===8==Original message text=== KW I won't speak for any Brit, but in the U.S. only those who have not yet KW developed a vocabulary of more than 100 or so words still use that teen-talk. KW Plain truth, it brands one as immature. evil friendly grin KW No, no! Not you, Boris! g KW keith whaley ===8===End of original message text=== That's the main problem of my English. Since most of my English is obtained passively through observation and copying, I often misuse words. Well, naturally, most of my English lessons back in Moscow were mostly either irrelevant or plain forgotten... It would be fascinating to compute size of my Russian and English vocabularies and compare the figures... serious grin But thanks anyway grin... Boris
Re: LXist
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: For the cause I will gladly let my name be known for the mentioned collective noun. Umm, someone has to ask this. Would a person buying several LXes then be doing a Cesar Metamorphosis? And surely if it can rain cats and dogs it can hale Cesars? Now what could have precipitated that remark? Can't remember - it's just evaporated from my mind. Well dew point it out to us when you remember! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
Jostein wrote: I couldn't see a price - or is it because if you need to know that, you can't afford it. Malcolm You are right. I know one projector of a previous model aka the g8585av, http://www.goetschmann.de/products/g8585av.htm that went for about 2500 USD second hand here in Norway. Excellent optics, though...:-) OUCH! I would hope so for that. Malcolm
RE: OT spam blockers and ebay have you experienced this???
-Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was annoyed enough when a REPLY to a friend on earthlink got bounced as suspicious mail (she wrote me but had not added me to her address book) When I hit reply to tell a customer who paid with PAYPAL that I was mailing her stuff today the mail bounced. I was puzzled because I had sent a notice she had won which didnt bounce. turns out her PAYPAL account is at a different address than her regular ebay account. This make no sense. Has anyone else experienced this? I have Spamkiller on my PC because I get 100 to 200 spams a day. Unfortunately it kills some valid mail every once in a while. A lot of my clients are lawyers, and the legalese they always seem to have appended to their emails trips the spamkiller. tv
Pentax *ist D vs. Fujifilm S2 Pro: final update
Hi all, I believe I've finished adding more and more pictures to my *ist D test, including some (I believe) interesting comparison among lenses. Those shots partially contradict some of my previous thoughts, where I was rather convinced that you could find little difference among different lenses and the bottleneck of image quality is the camera. Trying more and more lenses, I could find some performing much better than other ones. It is also interesting to notice that among the best ones, you can find som old glories (both screw mount and M-series), thus strengthening further my idea that the crippled mount of the *ist D is a goof. Here are the links to the updated pages: http://www.dariobonazza.com/t04p1e.htm http://www.dariobonazza.com/t04p2e.htm http://www.dariobonazza.com/t04p7e.htm Cheers, Dario Bonazza
Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
Being Norwegian just means that I did it the other way round. Asked first, then took a deep breath and sat down. And sat there for a good while too... :-) Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors. Hi, Malcolm Smith wrote: I couldn't see a price - or is it because if you need to know that, you can't afford it. Looks like one of those things where you have to sit down and take a very deep breath before you ask. Or be Norwegian 8-) mike
Re: Pentax Promo in Canada
Frank Theriault wrote: Curiosity piqued, I read on, and it seems that they're giving away an MZ S and an FA 24-80 zoom, along with bags, tripod, strap, that sort of stuff. They tout it as Pentax' pro level 35mm SLR. So, kudos to the promo department of Pentax Canada. At least they're trying... To get rid of some MZ-S stuff :-) Dario Bonazza
PUG themes 2004 are up
Hi *, I uploaded my pick of the suggested themes for 2004. *duck and run* Cheers Adelheid
Re: Digital Into Slides? + projectors.
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are right. I know one projector of a previous model aka the g8585av, http://www.goetschmann.de/products/g8585av.htm that went for about 2500 USD second hand here in Norway. Excellent optics, though...:-) OUCH! I would hope so for that. Malcolm The most awe-inspiring experience I've ever had, photographically, was a slide show with two projectors like that in an auditorium seating 300 people. The guy had taken 6x12 panoramas, cut them in two, carefully mounted and masked them in 6x7 frames, and then aligned the projectors so that we actually saw 6x12 panoramas on the silver screen. Which btw measured about 4x10 meters. amazing. Jostein
Re: PUG themes 2004 are up
Hi, Adelheid v. K. wrote: I uploaded my pick of the suggested themes for 2004. Does that mean that open pictures will be welcome all months? Or only themed ones as per the month? mike
Re: Pentax Promo in Canada
Just an explanation, as I don't want to be misunderstood. My sentence below was mainly intended as a joke (as the smiley shows), since I'm convinced that Pentax Canada is one of the best Pentax subsidiaries, maybe the most active one. I wish all Pentax subsidiaries could be as committed as Pentax Canada is. Dario To get rid of some MZ-S stuff :-)
Re: PUG themes 2004 are up
to which the link is: http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html :-) cheers, Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Adelheid v. K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:32 PM Subject: PUG themes 2004 are up Hi *, I uploaded my pick of the suggested themes for 2004. *duck and run* Cheers Adelheid
Re: PUG themes 2004 are up
No open galleries. From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] to which the link is: http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html :-)
Re: Pentax Promo in Canada
They're in my sh*t books right now for having closed Pentax Vancouver. Quoting Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just an explanation, as I don't want to be misunderstood. My sentence below was mainly intended as a joke (as the smiley shows), since I'm convinced that Pentax Canada is one of the best Pentax subsidiaries, maybe the most active one. I wish all Pentax subsidiaries could be as committed as Pentax Canada is. Dario To get rid of some MZ-S stuff :-) - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 1
You know, Keith, I agree with you, but I must admit that lately, I've been having impure thoughts (Forgive me, Father, I have sinned. This month, I thought about cropping a photograph I took). I was in the never crop, it's evil, if you do your framing in the viewfinder you shouldn't have to, I wanna be like HCB, yadda yadda yadda camp. Now, were I HCB, I could get away with it. But I've recently come to realize that I'm not him. I've had a few shots that were okay, but when extraneous crap is cut out, or when I crop in nice and close - BAM! - everything snaps into place, and the photo now has ~impact~. Part of that epiphany is that I've been shooting a fair bit with my rangefinder, and the framing just isn't precise with that, even with parallax error compensation. Part of the epiphany is that I've been shooting more street photography (with the rangefinder, mostly), and sometimes, to capture that decisive moment (to borrow you-know-who's term), ya gotta snap when maybe you're not close enough, or when it's not perfectly framed. Capturing moments is sometimes more important than perfect framing, I'm now coming to realize. So, to sum up: try to compose in the viewfinder when possible. But don't allow dogma to cause you to miss out on giving a photo more impact. No one sees my negs except me and my lab-guy. The world at large is only interested in what my prints look like. But, mostly, do what you think is best ~for you~. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:22:51 -0800 I always crop in-camera, if I can, before pressing the shutter. I know that for some shots I don't have a long enough lens, and some of those I'll crop (or throw away) but generally speaking, if I don't like it in the viewfinder, I don't take it! Tight is better, in most things. keith Cotty wrote: On 3/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Cotty, perhaps this invites a PUG topics - full-frame and you-must-crop... By the way, I'm experiencing now and odd pre-conception - that I shouldn't crop... Can it be that Honest Bill's honesty is infectious? VBG Bori O contraire mon frere. There is a big school who follow 'Thou Shalt Not Crop' zealously. I can see the attraction of the simplicity and photographic pureness this feeling engenders but personally I think it's a bag of balls. What I do think is that each of us must find his or her own way, and believe in it. Then can be respected. I may think that not cropping a shot after the fact is nonesense, but I certainly respect people who do it. I'm looking at the finished article, what is presented for me to see - how it was achieved is incidental and anecdotal. best, Cheers, Cotty _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 2
Dude! Chillax, man... vbg -knarf The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I won't speak for any Brit, but in the U.S. only those who have not yet developed a vocabulary of more than 100 or so words still use that teen-talk. Plain truth, it brands one as immature. evil friendly grin No, no! Not you, Boris! g keith whaley _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long)
Mark, Truly stunning work! Thanks for sharing it with us. If I were 1/2 the trooper you are... (never mind, it's been done). vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dolly Sods Wilderness (long) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:30:27 -0500 A couple of weeks ago I went on a one-night camping trip to a place in West Virginia called the Dolly Sods Wilderness. snip _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: PUG themes 2004 are up
- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: Re: PUG themes 2004 are up No open galleries. But the submission form still shows January, 2004 as open. Christian
Re: PUG themes 2004 are up
Hi *, I uploaded my pick of the suggested themes for 2004. What happened to December 2003?
Re: Enablement!
Thanks, Chris, Unfortunately, it pissed rain all day yesterday (Sunday), so I really didn't get a chance to put it through it's paces (I know, it's weather sealed, but I didn't want to get myself wet...). I did stick it on a tripod and take a few low light indoor shots last night, though. Just because I could, if you know what I mean... vbg Sending me a present, eh? Well then, you can be my friend (this goes for anyone else on the list, too). vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Enablement! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 00:43:17 -0600 (Central Standard Time) On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, frank theriault wrote: So, today I got me an LX. Woo hoo! Congrats, Frank. I'll be sending you a little something in the mail as soon as I get a little less lazy. :) chris _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: Enablement!
Thanks, Cesar, A wink's as good as a nod, to a blind bat, eh? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink... vbg So, there's a secret handshake, is there? Now I ~really~ can't wait for GFM! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank, Good on you ol' boy I was hoping that was what you were getting when you began the tease. Now I have to show you the secret handshake ;-) Okay, maybe just the wink. snip _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/featurespgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Enablement!
I've already been taking pictures of ~nothing~ at night time, just because I can... Full report to follow. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Enablement! Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:42:59 -0500 Congrats, Frank, but.. Enablement comes at a price. We expect, nay, we DEMAND a thoughtful report in no more than a week's time comparing the LX and MX. Fair enough? Get cracking, kid -Lon frank theriault wrote: .I DON'T CARE, BECAUSE I HAVE A FREAKING LX!!! _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/featurespgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: LXist
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:21:10 -0500 (EST), D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: And surely if it can rain cats and dogs it can hale Cesars? Now what could have precipitated that remark? Mark, you're not helping -- and if you're not part of the solution... You're either part of the precipitate or a victim of the solution. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Enablement! + film camera pricing.
Hi, Mike, Well, converted into Canadian dollars, that's more or less what I paid for mine, bought off a list member. I think the eBay prices will come down. I've started seeing it a bit, but even more interesting than dropping prices, is the amount of stuff on eBay that is going bid-less. People are getting into digital and wanting to dump their film gear without paying a price. Unreasonable starting bids, or unreasonable reseverves are either going to have to drop, or sellers will find no bids for their stuff. Oddly, I think eBay is ~not~ the place to find bargains at this time, if for no other reason that sellers (many of whom may not be in touch with the marketplace) think that they should be able to get what they paid for, for their film gear. I've noticed some film gear prices dropping in used shops, though. An ME at Henry's for $125 Canadian, a couple of weeks ago. Nikon F4 bodies for about $900 Cdn. I was just at my repair shop, and saw a 6x7, with the metered prism, wooden grip and 55mm for an asking price of $1100 Cdn. That's not bad... Patience is needed. It's starting, and prices will continue their downward slide. All these digital wannabe's are going to find that the market won't pay exhorbitant prices for used film stuff. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a case of looking. There are regular ads for LXs (LX's?) at about or just over the £200 mark in the UK press. They won't be very pretty but they are undoubtledly cheap for what you get. I definitely think that the accessories are cheaper now. What suprises me at the moment is the continuing high cost of Jobo processor parts. mike still working up the nerve to run his first film through the CPE-2. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photospgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Cheap 6x7
Hi, I was bringing a lens into the repair shop today, and I noticed that there was a 6x7 for sale there. I asked about it, and it was on consignment, by a fairly motivated seller (he's leaving the country, and is selling his -ahem- less portable gear). I didn't ask if it was MLU, but it had a metered prism, the wooden grip, and a 55mm lens (can't remember the speed). Asking $1100 Cdn (what's that, maybe $750 US or less? It was used (well, of course it's used, frank! D'oh!), but looked in good shape. For anyone local to Toronto, it's at Kominek's Camera Repair, 22 College Street, Toronto. They have a web site, with an e-mail link. Can't remember the url off hand, just Google Komineks... If anyone's interested, I would be happy to facilitate in any way I can. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 2
Hi Cotty, Thanks for your comments on my submission, and for taking the time and effort to review on all the images. I always go back and look at the whole gallery side by side with your comments. Invariably I either see something new in them or am drawn to the areas you comment on. It always makes for a rewarding second viewing. Cheers, Simon -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 3 November 2003 2:22 AM To: pentax list Subject: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 2 PART 2... Nupsstadur by Thrainn Vigfusson, Iceland This is Thainn's first PUG entry, and as was the habit, I used to try and comment on first entries, so I'll wade in. I can't make my mind up whether or not I like this pic - I'm not sure what it's trying to be. In my mind, I blotted out the [assumed] Jeep [Willys?] and imagined it like that - and decided I did like it. Then I put the Jeep back in and tried again. And couldn't decide. It certainly adds colour to an otherwise pedestrian view - although I do like the light. Either way it has got me writing so it must have something to it - technically it is excellent. Great contrast, nice colour, a very good scan. Can't fault it, just can't decide what it means, but then again that doesn't matter. You must only make pictures for yourself, and if anyone else likes them, smile! Stonewall Jackson Cemetery by Steven Desjardins, USA Interesting approach to a well-trodden subject - the cemetery. Harsh lighting but it doesn't detract at all. Lovely composition, muted colours. Works well for me. Let's leave it buried for now ;-) Stone Canon by Andrew Wong, Hong Kong Andrew, crop off the top of the pic and lose that bit of tree. Nice sky. Parallel Spiral by BigButt, China With a name like that, I have to comment. What a nerve! Anyway, nice shot, well observed study of a pair of spiral staircases. A bit burnt out on the right, slap on wrist. Or should that be slap on big butt? Refresher by Michael Gil Menz Where do these people come from? You never hear a peep on the list, and suddenly a shot drops into the PUG and turns out to be a masterpiece. Gil's sepia-toned view of children playing amongst water jets in what looks like a playground but in fact could be anything from an abattoir to an airport, is fascinating. The photographer is not letting on, but he doesn't have to - the photograph speaks for itself. There's some heavy contrast, but also some very subtle toning in there, look at the top left and right, above the blurry figure. Fully backlit, there's no flare, and no tell-tale water drops on the lens in what looks like a difficult shooting situation. I am truly in awe of this pic - it has all the elements that I need to see, and I can look at it for a long time. My Star Pic of the Month. Congrats! My Chevy by Paul Stenquist, USA Paul is well known for his beautiful classic car shots - and this is no exception. All those amazing hard edges and colours that jump out at you, slap you in the face, then knee you in the groin. It's a feast for the eyes. Stunning. When's the next book out Paul? Water And Air by Wessel Sijl, The Netherlands There's a joker in every pack - oddball shot of the month! Giant seagull sinks ferry - just caught it in time Wessel ;-) Perspective by Boris Liberman, Israel Nice idea Boris, competently executed. What about trying it as a vertical orientation and getting the first tall plant as big in the shot as physically possible? Take some step ladders (and an assistant) to get you some height otherwise the plants disappear in the background. Well done, I like it. Scale by Simon King, Australia Superb architectural study with plenty of parallels and angles. The silhouettes on the left are fine but I'd lose the party going on bottom right, personally. Impressive observation. Thanks. Retine Opressée by Hamiche Samir, France Can't tell what the Dickens is going on in there hamiche, but it works for me. Scrabble Champ by Ann Sanfedele , USA Nice profile by Annsan of a Scrabble player, well executed by an observant lady. I think I'd go in on the face - you know he's playing Scrabble, but there's no way of knowing it by looking at the pic. Go close, or pull out and show us the board. Difficult to do as the face and board are so far apart. Are you allowed to walk about during these competitions? The lighting is superb. Well done Ann. Ewelina and Pawel by Maciej Marchlewski, Poland Interesting config of a pair of newlyweds, Maciej. The groom has a very interesting face - do a session with just him some time. Ask him not to wear that tie though. Is he reaching in hos pocket for your fee? ;-) Nice one. Concerned by Cotty, UK Looks like the contast pixies have been busy here. Bag of shite, move on. Nicole in blue by Roman Sonnleitner, Austria Unusual crop for a portrait, and a blue hue won't do you any favours with prospective sitters. Roman's first PUG shot with his
Re: PUG November is open
At 05:12 AM 03/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: http://www.muddypawz.net/photos/125_2581_JFR_w.jpg Now, that's more like it. I seem to recall you got a new pup recently. Which of the two bookend canines is it? Pat in SF L-R: Tanja, Boris, Tyra Tyra's the baby, though she turned 1 in September. It only seems like yesterday we were battling through a blizzard to pick her up from the airport at Montreal! Wendy Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: New digital cameras
At a swap meet last Saturday I found a black ESII Pentax that is in excellent shape. I loaded it with some Provia 100F. Leaves are starting to turn out here in Portland, OR. Jim A. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:40:06 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New digital cameras Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:40:12 -0500 You might lose patience with Pentax. Jim A. I've already concluded that. The 10D is looking better and better. OTOH, regarding Pentax, I could always get a MX. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: stereo wedding slides
Maybe some of you had heard of stereo wedding photography, but I hadn't...does anyone have any info on the equipment and history? I know we have a few stereo buffs here. I have to say I was quite impressed with the photography...well lit, well posed. The guy knew what he was doing. I wonder if this was considered a premium service at the time? I also wonder if it would be possible to do it these days tv In the early 50s, that was premium service. My older (or has she become my younger) sister had those for her wedding in 53. If I remember right, the provider had a 3-D specialist. who posed different shots from the standard pix (which they also got for their album). They had a special battery-powered 3-D viewer which you held up to your eyes to see the pictures. There was also a projector available, but it was too hokey for my sister. It's been just under 50 years since I've seen them, but it must have worked, my sister was barely 16 when she got married and they are still married. Larry
RE: Anyone want to buy a film fridge?
_Your_ balcony? -Original Message- From: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 3 November 2003 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? You'll know by some balcony shots http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=309520 .. citysider :) Yourself? Rgds, Ryan - Original Message - From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:29 AM Subject: Re: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? Yes, Ryan, I couldn't find any cold-stored film anywhere. BTW, where are you in Brisbane? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? John, they've taken away the 2 or 3 fridges?? Is that saying that Velvia's now in a shelf display? Haven't been down to PC lately but I expect to go down when they give me a call to pick up a tripod case I ordered. Will take a look.. That's disappointing. Cheers, Ryan From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? On this topic, I noticed that my better local camera store, Photo Continental, has dropped it's cool storage for film, where you could buy film batches in ten-packs, and all film is now relegated to tumble displays without the option - a definite indicator that they consider digital to be more important. In addition, a recent store revamp has given two-thirds of the space to digital, and film SLR's are now occupying the rear corner of the floor! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Anyone want to buy a film fridge? ...because it looks as if a lot of camera shops are going to be selling them soon. I just stopped in at my local store and discovered that they've cut down from three film refrigerators to one, and that one is only about 1/3 filled. I think I'm probably going to be *forced* to buy my film by mail order before too long. I'm wondering if we're hitting the knee in the curve of digital replacing film. As more people go digital the demand for film drops, causing retailers to stock less film...which gives more people incentive to go digital...which makes the shops reduce film stock further...and so on in a self-stoking cycle. This kind of process starts out slow but accelerates wildly once a certain threshold is crossed. I expect professional-grade films and consumer films will hit this point at different times but I think it may be happening now with respect to the good stuff. Time to start scrounging money for an *ist-D. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Cotty's November PUG Comments PART 1
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, mostly, do what you think is best ~for you~. I like what Michael Reichmann told me: The camera manufacturer has no right in the world to tell me what height to width ratio to make my photographs! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
