RE: flash question
You're welcome. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. maj 2004 00:53 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: flash question Hi Jens, Ah (a lightbulb moment for sure) , I did confuse the two terms. Thanks for the explanation. Feroze - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:54 PM Subject: RE: flash question Feroze I think you may be confusing coverage and giudenumber??? Coverage does usually not have anything to do with ISO or f-stops. The coverage you descibe here is not, as it is commom practice, the measure of the side of the rectangular square of light, that the flash will make on, let's say, a wall. Coverage usually describe an angle of view or a focal length (35 mm equiv.), meaning what you get in the viewfinder. Guide number means aperture at the distance of 1 foot at ISO 100. For this flash the guidenumber is 18. Guidenumber 18 will at 100 ISO give f 18 at one foot and appr. f 8 at 2 feet, appr. f 4 at 4 feet - or f 32-45 at 0.5 foot (15 cm). I'm not shure this applies the same way to a macro flash, as it does to ordenary flashes, though. I guess in this case it (coverage) referes to the maximum distance to the subject. 98 cm is almost 3 feet. Guidenumber 18 should be just about sufficient/enough power to give you f 5.6 at a three feet distance (as it gives you a little more than f 4 at 4 feet= 124 cm (more because my table is derived from GN 16). What you do in practice is this: Use A-setting to automatically adjust light for the aperture set at the camera (if there are more than one to choose from). Don't go beyond 3 feet distance to subject, as you do not want aperture larger than f 5.6 for macros anyway. Otherwise use manual setting and a aperture/distance table, like the one described above. I wouldn't shoot macros at less than f 8. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 20. maj 2004 21:27 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: flash question Hi Jens, Thanks, unfortunately this one is not a pentax flash, its a vivtar macroflash 5000, a very base line model. I downloaded the manual which was all of 2 pages. The part I didn't understand its gives you the table for a 100/105mm lens, so for eg I'll get on ISO100 @5.6 coverage to 98cm, how do I calculate or convert this table if I was using a 50mm lens, is there a formula or something conversion table. Is there a standard?? Thanks Feroze - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:09 PM Subject: RE: flash question Hello Feroze The flash light spreads at an angle. Most flashes will cover an angle equivalent to that of a 28mm lens for a 35mm camera system. The userguide for diffent flashes will give you the vertical and horizontal coverage (angles) for different lenses/focal lengths/angle of view. The espression coverage for this and that lens has to to with flashes that will zoom (achange angle of view) when you zoom the lens/change the angle of view. Please see user giuides for Pentax falshes at Pentax USA: http://www.pentax.com/docstore/index.cfm?show=6 Or Bojidar Dimitrov's Homepage (angle of view for Pentax lenses): http://www.bdimitrov.de/ All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 20. maj 2004 20:26 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: flash question Hi All, Hate to disturb you guys with a photographic question, but could someone direct me to a site or link that explains in simple terms what flash coverage means. For eg. if it says that a particular flash covers 80 deg with a 105mm lens then will it not cover then same amount of area with a 50mm lens. Thank You Feroze
istD for $799? A and M photo world?
Hi gang As my goal of obtaining a istD draws closer to reality, I did some web searching for prices. A place called A M Photo World has the body listed at $799 (US retailer). I tried to go through the entire order process up to the very end where it says click here to finalize to see if there were any surprises in store, but other than a higher than average shipping cost ($40) ; and they claimed it was in stock but since it is $200 less than any other retailer, I still feel funny about it-- like maybe it would show up with no battery or something like that. Has anyone paid this amount or less lately? What about this retailer? Anyone else have dealings with them before? It just feels fishy-- Greetings from CajunLand USA South Louisiana Sid Barras
RE: Pentax Signpost
I love the *ist D gallery. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dr. Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. maj 2004 17:05 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Pentax Signpost Hi, I`ve updated my website and the Pentax Signpost. The biggest update was moving to GoLive 6 for easier future updates. I hope you will find the link-lists useful and would be glad if you inform me about broken or missing links. www.mycroft.de Cheers, Heiko
RE: 16-45mm DA
What is CA problems? Regards Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dr. Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. maj 2004 08:16 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: 16-45mm DA Hi Shaun, on 18 May 04 you wrote in pentax.list: Has anybody got/used the new 16-45mm DA F4.0? What do we know about it? I've used it. It is a really good lens. Very sharp, no CA problems (at least I didn't notice one) and good built quality. It's plastic, but feels better than a FA 24-90. The optical quaity is comparable with that of the 24-90 and much better than that of the 18-35. And - 16mm are nice wideangle for your *istD. I would have bought it, but I'm waiting to see the first results of the smc-DA 14 as it might be a better addition to my 24-90. Cheers, Heiko
Re: M 85mm f/2
I also like M28 3.5. I use it a lot. A. On 21 May 2004, at 03:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also like the M28 3.5...
GFM Ride?
Hey gang, Looks like I'll be home between vacations for at least a couple days. I KNOW it's late to be making plans but I wanted to offer up the extra spaces in my vehicle. I'll be driving from Atlanta, home of the world's busiest airport. If anybody between there and here is looking for a ride on Thursday, let me know. Cory Waters doesn't bite, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 5/19/2004
Re: 50/1.4 and 135/2.5
You won't regret the 50 at all. The list seems to be of the opinion that the M 50 f1.4 is the least of the fast 50s, but they're all very good. And with the M, you still get a good build (the F has a pretty bad build). Henri Toivonen wrote: snip I will try to get that 50mm atleast, and see if i have the spare money to buy the 135mm.
RE: 50/1.4 and 135/2.5
I have A and FA versions. The are both excellent lenses and rather well built, I think. I also own the K2.5/135mm. It too is an excellent lens and very well (but heavy/bulky) built. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 20. maj 2004 16:58 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: 50/1.4 and 135/2.5 I happen to own the M 50 f1.4 and the K 135 f2.5. I wouldn't give either of them up. Fine lenses. Welcome to PDML. -Lon
RE: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
I learned and am stil learning Photoshop from books/tutorials. I was sent to classes in Adobe Illustrator 10 through my work. So, I'm not quite unfamiliar withthe basics of Adobe software even though many things are quite different in the two Adobe applications. All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. maj 2004 10:02 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: OT: To Photoshop Class, Or Not? In the interest of changing the subject, and creating new threads, and all that... I've been debating taking a Photoshop class. (7 is what I'll be using, and let's not go there again, re versions. ;-)) So I am curious, if you use Photoshop, did you ever take a class in it? Or did you just learn it from books? Or what? Marnie aka Doe
Re: Pentax Signpost
Dr., I like your site but some more navigational tools would be appreciated. In the gallery, I'd like to see some next, back and home buttons. Very cool photos from the repair shop BTW, The *ist D with those lenses on it is an inspirational handbook to those easily enabled Cory - Original Message - From: Dr. Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: Pentax Signpost Hi, I`ve updated my website and the Pentax Signpost. The biggest update was moving to GoLive 6 for easier future updates. I hope you will find the link-lists useful and would be glad if you inform me about broken or missing links. www.mycroft.de Cheers, Heiko --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 5/19/2004
Re: PAW - Mi Amor
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boy, I have to agree with Shel here. My first look at the photo was very ho-hum. Just didn't see anything in it. This crop that Shel proposes really changes it into something for me. Now I really do see the relationship. Is that what you were going for Mark? Well, there were something that y'all might have missed and it was probably due to the scan and having to view the pic on a screen. I rescanned the slide with Shel's crop which I definitely like (thanks Shel!). Take a look at the kid's hair and pay attention to the color (hint: it's painted green on top). So I was going for the relationship between he and his mother but wanted to play with the juxtaposition of his hair color and her bracelet. I resubmitted the photo with some changes. Maybe they help. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2377665size=lg I like Shel's BW conversion as well. I'm gonna think about whether I want to print it as a BW and let the relationship stand on its own or keep the green hair and deal with the color elements in the background. Thanks! Mark
6x7 film choice
I will be shooting some indoor dancers. The layout is simple with 2 x 400 Watt studio flashes 1 stop apart with a white paper backdrop. My film choices are simply to use the ever reliable Fuji Reala (iso 100) or the Fujichrome Velvia (iso 50). I will be using some Fuji ACROS Neopan 100 for the black and white stuff. I have never used the Velvia with the 6x7, nor have I used it indoors in 35mm format. How does the Velvia perform with flashes? Any under exposure problems? How does it handle contrasty situations? Any stories greatfully recieved. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: OT: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
In the interest of changing the subject, and creating new threads, and all that... I've been debating taking a Photoshop class. (7 is what I'll be using, and let's not go there again, re versions. ;-)) So I am curious, if you use Photoshop, did you ever take a class in it? Or did you just learn it from books? Or what? Marnie aka Doe Learned it as a photographer for the college campus newspaper a few years ago (versions 3 and 4, I think, just to illustrate the range) and never took a formal class although I was being taught in a college newsroom. If that makes sense as written. There was a class in existence at the time, and I frequently overheard it while working in the area, but wasn't impressed with the teacher, and I know the only thing I learned from overhearing that class was that I wouldn't ever take a class from that man. Wasn't the same person wo was teaching me in one-on-one sessions, and who, herself, was at the time doing an independent study or something of that sort with a big-name local Photoshop artist. I also went through most of a Classroom in a Book Tutorial, later, which I think filled in a few gaps. But there are still many gaps in what I know. (I didn't finish the book because I still had a few chapters to go when I delivered my second child; suddenly I didn't have the time! Never went back and completed the book, for a variety of reasons.) Probably a class with a competent teacher would be effective. (In fact, in the same college, the photo adviser who taught me Photoshop one-on-one is now teaching the class; HER students are probably learning something.) Summary: in my case, OJT and books. ERN
Re: kit selection
If it were me, I'd be torn between something wider than a 28 and plugging that hole between 50 and 100Macro with an 85. You mention the bag is getting heavy. How will another lens help that situation? Lens Lust, the Flattener of Fototographer Footies. Butch Black wrote: Hi Guys; I have gotten to that point where my camera bag has gotten too heavy. So I'm thinking of downsizing what I carry when I'm not shooting something specific. My current lineup: Z-1p, K1000, K 28/3.5, K 35/3.5, M 50/1.4, A 50/1.7, M 50/2.0, M 100/4.0 macro, M 135/3.5, M 200/4.0, FA* 300/4.5, set of extension tubes, 50mm tube for M 100/4.0, small Vivitar flash. I'm thinking of breaking it down to 2 bags. The main bag would be the Z-1p, 35, 50/1.4, 135, 300, and the flash. The #2 bag would be the rest minus the m 50/2.0. Obviously if I'm shooting something that another lens would be useful I can put it in. Any suggestions to selection? Or any other suggestions. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: 50/1.4 and 135/2.5
I think this F better than FA 50/1.4 thing got started because PhotoDo rated the F a tad higher. Mark Roberts wrote: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the F 50/1.4 truly a better performer than the FA or the A version? IIRC, the F and FA versions are optically identical.
RE: OT: She's Her Father's Daughter
Definitely one to show to the boyfriend. Tracie noticed that we started to hang these around the house when she started dating. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: She's Her Father's Daughter
frank theriault wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2376852 Ah! Sweet! She has her Father's ears! Nice to know that one of your daughters is following (Pentax) photography. Nice capture Frank. Malcolm
Re: Pentax MX battery problem
Sure. If it's a total bust, you've wasted $15. I've wasted more than that on a bad dinner. ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Antonio said: As to the international nature of the list (and I am only mentioning it because you brought it up) I do not see what bearing this has on anything - surely in times of conflict dialogue and debate should be welcomed between those with differing opinions - the way the world seems to be going debate and consensus are fast being replaced by the gun and alienation, the you are with us or against us type attitude. Experience has shown that most members of this list do not want inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects debated HERE, even if they are valid and useful subjects for dialogue and debate ELSEWHERE. You're right, people should discuss these things. But NOT in a forum where they generally agree to set such differences aside to discuss a subject of mutual interest. This would be such a forum. We have enough fun games with the inflammatory ON-topic subjects!! ERN
Re: 6x7 film choice
The BW choice is good. It's the best there is right now. [ You HP4+ lovers, hold your tongues ...:) ] With 6x7 I'd not be afraid of neg film, unless you're going to an ad agency where they'll want to scan it. Given the E6 doesn't cost much to test with, and if they are going to pay some big bucks for your work, I'd set up the environment in advance and shoot a test sequence with each film. Get to know the characteristics of each and leave guessing out of commerical situations. And don't forget the newer E100VS. It will compare favorably in many respects. Collin --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re:[thanks] Safelight question
Thnanks for all who responded. Its an older bulb,and was bought at the same time of the Vivitar E32 enlarger,probably 1966 or so. I have a tiny BR for my darkroom and the light source is about 3 feet away. I probably could set it up on the toilet seat which would get it away from the bulb around 7 feet. Nothjing on the box,but Ilfords site suggests the 902 filter. A bulb would be better for the time being,but not having much luck finding one on a Canadian camera store site.I'll keep trying. Oh and Norm,i labeled it OT as it was not operator system related.vbgMy way of being funny.lol Dave - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Safelight question i mentioned it was a low watt red bulb,he fiqured that was the problem. I use RC multi grade paper,and Jim mentioned this paper was sensitive to magenta,and red was close enough. 1) Does this sound like it could be my problem. Yes. RC papers are not necessarily safe under red safelights, but may be if the light is far enough away. 2) Will an amber bulb be better/ok. I think it is an OC safelight filter that you need. Even at that, keep it at least 4 feet from the paper. William Robb
Re: 6x7 film choice
Hi, Kevin wrote: I will be shooting some indoor dancers. The layout is simple with 2 x 400 Watt studio flashes 1 stop apart with a white paper backdrop. My film choices are simply to use the ever reliable Fuji Reala (iso 100) or the Fujichrome Velvia (iso 50). I will be using some Fuji ACROS Neopan 100 for the black and white stuff. I would rather use dedicated portrait films, such as Fuji NPC/NPL, Kodak Portra 160VC or Agfa Portrait 160. The Reala is very close in many respects. I have never used the Velvia with the 6x7, nor have I used it indoors in 35mm format. I just can't stand the skin tones of that film. It can be a good choice, if you use strong colored filtered lighting. How does the Velvia perform with flashes? Any under exposure problems? It has some problems with very short flash durations, but your 400Ws units should not produce this effect. How does it handle contrasty situations? Very badly. This is a film to improve contrast, not to handle the existing one. Regards, Gabor
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Ern, Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time. A. On 21 May 2004, at 14:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antonio said: As to the international nature of the list (and I am only mentioning it because you brought it up) I do not see what bearing this has on anything - surely in times of conflict dialogue and debate should be welcomed between those with differing opinions - the way the world seems to be going debate and consensus are fast being replaced by the gun and alienation, the you are with us or against us type attitude. Experience has shown that most members of this list do not want inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects debated HERE, even if they are valid and useful subjects for dialogue and debate ELSEWHERE. You're right, people should discuss these things. But NOT in a forum where they generally agree to set such differences aside to discuss a subject of mutual interest. This would be such a forum. We have enough fun games with the inflammatory ON-topic subjects!! ERN
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Antonio: Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time. in response to my comment: Experience has shown that most members of this list do not want inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects debated HERE, even if they are valid and useful subjects for dialogue and debate ELSEWHERE. You're right, people should discuss these things. But NOT in a forum where they generally agree to set such differences aside to discuss a subject of mutual interest. This would be such a forum. We have enough fun games with the inflammatory ON-topic subjects!! The key word was inflammatory. ERN
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
I'm getting tired of this idiot. The man said, ...inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects... WHAT PART OF THE WORD INFLAMMATORY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time. On 21 May 2004, at 14:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Experience has shown that most members of this list do not want inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects debated HERE, even if they are valid and useful subjects for dialogue and debate ELSEWHERE. You're right, people should discuss these things. But NOT in a forum where they generally agree to set such differences aside to discuss a subject of mutual interest. This would be such a forum. We have enough fun games with the inflammatory ON-topic subjects!!
Re: PAW - Mi Amor
Mornin' Mark ... I noticed the green tint to the boy's hair, but didn't (and still can't) see how it contributed much, if anything, anything to the photo. Shel Belinkoff Well, there were something that y'all might have missed and it was probably due to the scan and having to view the pic on a screen. I rescanned the slide with Shel's crop which I definitely like (thanks Shel!). Take a look at the kid's hair and pay attention to the color (hint: it's painted green on top). So I was going for the relationship between he and his mother but wanted to play with the juxtaposition of his hair color and her bracelet. I resubmitted the photo with some changes. Maybe they help. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2377665size=lg I like Shel's BW conversion as well. I'm gonna think about whether I want to print it as a BW and let the relationship stand on its own or keep the green hair and deal with the color elements in the background.
Fryday FS
A50/2 $18 shipped (in us)! Yes, an inexpensive lens, and built to stay that way. But ... since I just picked up a Ricoh 50/1.2 for the KX this will have to go. (unless someone offers me big bucks for the 1.2 ...) Collin --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. As to inflammatory topics, there is no such thing. Controversial perhaps, hotly debated certainly, but not inflammatory. In any event, all I have done is join discussions that were already ongoing. Take it up with the people who started the topic. Antonio On 21 May 2004, at 15:49, Bob Blakely wrote: I'm getting tired of this idiot. The man said, ...inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects... WHAT PART OF THE WORD INFLAMMATORY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time. On 21 May 2004, at 14:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Experience has shown that most members of this list do not want inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects debated HERE, even if they are valid and useful subjects for dialogue and debate ELSEWHERE. You're right, people should discuss these things. But NOT in a forum where they generally agree to set such differences aside to discuss a subject of mutual interest. This would be such a forum. We have enough fun games with the inflammatory ON-topic subjects!!
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Antonio Aparicio wrote: Ern, Having followed this list for the past year without contributing my impression was that you discussed OT topics here all the time. A. Yeah, you're right. Usually just long enough for everybody to climb all over the transgressor, and make him or her feel sorry they even bothered to get up that morning! g Given that, go right ahead, but do choose your topics wisely. Some will waken the Inappropriate Topic harpies and then look out! keith whaley On 21 May 2004, at 14:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antonio said: As to the international nature of the list (and I am only mentioning it because you brought it up) I do not see what bearing this has on anything - surely in times of conflict dialogue and debate should be welcomed between those with differing opinions - the way the world seems to be going debate and consensus are fast being replaced by the gun and alienation, the you are with us or against us type attitude. Experience has shown that most members of this list do not want inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects debated HERE, even if they are valid and useful subjects for dialogue and debate ELSEWHERE. You're right, people should discuss these things. But NOT in a forum where they generally agree to set such differences aside to discuss a subject of mutual interest. This would be such a forum. We have enough fun games with the inflammatory ON-topic subjects!! ERN
Re: Fryday FS
What? Like $25? keith whaley Collin Brendemuehl wrote: A50/2 $18 shipped (in us)! Yes, an inexpensive lens, and built to stay that way. But ... since I just picked up a Ricoh 50/1.2 for the KX this will have to go. (unless someone offers me big bucks for the 1.2 ...) Collin
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
On Fri, 21 May 2004, Henri Toivonen wrote: I wasn't allowed to, during my brief encouter with the Swedish military. I'd have to register my camera with the higher officers and have every picture approved for security reasons. Was it a while ago? Yes, it was in 1990. Fourteen years ago. The S3 regiment in Boden, not too far from where you live, right? Cuz things certainly has changed. I'm hosting a website for a friend of mine and his friends from the army, lumpenpics as they call it. It's like thousands of pics from their time in the military, shot with a dozen digicams. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Anders Hultman wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2004, Henri Toivonen wrote: I wasn't allowed to, during my brief encouter with the Swedish military. I'd have to register my camera with the higher officers and have every picture approved for security reasons. Was it a while ago? Yes, it was in 1990. Fourteen years ago. The S3 regiment in Boden, not too far from where you live, right? anders Not that far from here, no. These pics are from Boden also, don't remember what regiment though. They drove around in those Haubits anyhow, and shot grenades. :-) /Henri
A* 85mm f1.4 - worth over a $1,000?
Check out ebay item 3815885925. Can't you buy a new FA* 85mm 1.4 for that sort of money? Antonio
Re: Fryday FS
What? Like $25? keith whaley hardee har har :) I think it was Mark Robers who said that this model was one of the best bargains he ever got. Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
aaggghh Antonio Aparicio wrote: Feroze, Why don't you take it up with the person who started the thread? As to the international nature of the list (and I am only mentioning it because you brought it up) I do not see what bearing this has on anything - surely in times of conflict dialogue and debate should be welcomed between those with differing opinions - the way the world seems to be going debate and consensus are fast being replaced by the gun and alienation, the you are with us or against us type attitude.
Re: Anyone still using windows ME
aaagg Antonio Aparicio wrote: Shawn, I am willing to accept that I may be wrong, but I do not feel that is the case. The 2% figure you mention is for all computers sold in the world - Apple has a much higher market penetration in segments of the market. Virus writers target holes in OS's, the easier it is to do the more viruses. As to mission critical applications, have you not heard of the NASA Mars Exploration Rover Missions? This may come as a bit of a shot to you but a lot of the mission systems were run on, yes, you got it - Macs! Not to mention the worlds 3rd fastest supercomputer at Virginia tech. http://www.apple.com/hardware/video/virginiatech/ is G5 based - yes thats right, desktop computers rack mounted. Oh, and on the photo front why not check this out http://www.apple.com/pro/photo/kalalian/
RE: 77 limited or 85* for portraits/canndids
I have had them all: FA*85/f1.4, A*85/f1.4, K85/f1.8, M85/f2, FA77/f1.8. This is what I think: - The 1.4s are simply too big and heavy for everyday use, and too intimidating for portraits. Thus I sold them. - The FA*85/f1.4 and the M85/f2 are specialists for portraits. Do not use them at open aperture for anything else. However, stopped down they are excellent in every respect. Yes, at f5.6-f11 they are very sharp. - The A*85/f1.4 seems to be optimised for high contrast at open aperture. It is good for available light photography but not so good for portraits or close-ups. - The K85/f1.8 and the FA77/f1.8 seem to be the best all-purpose lenses with the 77 offering the higher resolution, and with the K85 offering the longer focal length. - At the same aperture, the M85/f2 gives the smoothest background/biggest blur. - However, the bokeh of the K85/f1.8 seems to be the most natural. Arnold
RE: 77 limited or 85* for portraits/canndids
I have had them all: FA*85/f1.4, A*85/f1.4, K85/f1.8, M85/f2, FA77/f1.8. This is what I think: - The 1.4s are simply too big and heavy for everyday use, and too intimidating for portraits. Thus I sold them. - The FA*85/f1.4 and the M85/f2 are specialists for portraits. Do not use them at open aperture for anything else. However, stopped down they are excellent in every respect. Yes, at f5.6-f11 they are very sharp. - The A*85/f1.4 seems to be optimized for high contrast at open aperture. It is good for available light photography but not so good for portraits or close-ups. - The K85/f1.8 and the FA77/f1.8 seem to be the best all-purpose lenses with the 77 offering the higher resolution, and with the K85 offering the longer focal length. - At the same aperture, the M85/f2 gives the smoothest background/biggest blur. - However, the bokeh of the K85/f1.8 seems to be the most natural. Arnold
Re: Fryday FS
That could well be! Ricoh has been around for some time. Do you happen to know who made the lens for Ricoh? keith Collin Brendemuehl wrote: What? Like $25? keith whaley hardee har har :) I think it was Mark Robers who said that this model was one of the best bargains he ever got. Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
RE: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
I've been debating taking a Photoshop class. (7 is what I'll be using, and let's not go there again, re versions. ;-)) So I am curious, if you use Photoshop, did you ever take a class in it? Or did you just learn it from books? I had a hard time with Photoshop until I took an online course in it, years ago. Since then I have just been learning more as I went along. I've never bothered to read a book about it. You might want to check out the book Adobe Photoshop 7.0 for Photographers, First Edition by Martin Evening http://tinyurl.com/2vqy7 It got varying reviews on Amazon, but check it out for yourself. ERN is right; not all professors are that great. Maybe you could see if you could sit in on a class with the instructor of the class you want to take and see if you like him/her. Amita
Re: Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
- Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Lets take this beyond rude. You are a fucking asshole. A bombastic piece of shit. And a narcisitic sociopath. You don't care about anyone other than yourself. You have no concern for anyones feelings other than your own. Consider yourself lucky that this is an email list, rather than a face to face discussion. I'd be putting the boots to your head about now. I don't suffer fools in silence, and you certainly are a fool. Regards William Robb
Re: 6x7 film choice
- Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson Subject: 6x7 film choice I will be shooting some indoor dancers. The layout is simple with 2 x 400 Watt studio flashes 1 stop apart with a white paper backdrop. My film choices are simply to use the ever reliable Fuji Reala (iso 100) or the Fujichrome Velvia (iso 50). I will be using some Fuji ACROS Neopan 100 for the black and white stuff. I have never used the Velvia with the 6x7, nor have I used it indoors in 35mm format. How does the Velvia perform with flashes? Any under exposure problems? How does it handle contrasty situations? Any stories greatfully recieved. Velvia is the last film I would use for this. Consider faster films, I have 800ws of power in my studio light setup, and find that 100 is on the slow side with the 6x7. My standby with the 6x7 is HP-5+ for black and white, Kodak Portra 400 for colour. I don't shoot much reversal anymore in the studio, but I would still pursue a 400 iso were I to need it. William Robb
Re: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: To Photoshop Class, Or Not? So I am curious, if you use Photoshop, did you ever take a class in it? I have a couple of friends, believe it or not. One teaches Photoshop, the other has used it as a graphic artist since version 1. One likes beer, the other wine. It's a great relationship. William Robb
Re: Pentax MX battery problem
HT And it could be it's just a battery that has leaked and clobbed up the HT hatch! HT Maybe some oil and brute force could help, and after replacing the HT battery, it might be fully functional! HT Hell, i'm gonna give it a shot! :-) HT /Henri Henri, if you can't open the hatch, simply remove the whole bottom housing by the three screws there (if I can remember correctly), and clean the battery plate offcamera with strong winegar or citric acid I think. Heating it a little could help too. When you are at it, there is a MX repair guide at www.robertstech.com (Mark Robert's site). You can check for corrosion in the wires going from the battery compartment (there is possibly just one, as the other pole would be connected trough the chassis), battery acid can corrode inside wires too. And check the two golden plate contacts at the bottom of left side of camera (the side with shutter dial), these close the metering circuit when you press on the shutter release button. Often, these need just a little adjustment or cleaning to get a working meter. Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: OT: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
When I first started using PS I wanted to take a class in it. Now I think I could probably teach a class at least for photographers. Most classes seem to be aimed at graphic artists. There are a number of things in Photoshop a photographer will probably never use, or at least will be secondary or tertiary to the job at hand. Try to find out the background of the person teaching the course and the focus of their instruction. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the interest of changing the subject, and creating new threads, and all that... I've been debating taking a Photoshop class. (7 is what I'll be using, and let's not go there again, re versions. ;-)) So I am curious, if you use Photoshop, did you ever take a class in it? Or did you just learn it from books? Or what? Marnie aka Doe
Re: Fryday FS
I think at the time this lens was produced Ricoh made their own, and most were very good. Keith Whaley wrote: That could well be! Ricoh has been around for some time. Do you happen to know who made the lens for Ricoh? keith Collin Brendemuehl wrote: What? Like $25? keith whaley hardee har har :) I think it was Mark Robers who said that this model was one of the best bargains he ever got. Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
RE: A 15mm
I'm really curious, because usually a lens this wide has its own limitations but often makes a spectacular view. I mean, if Pentax is still selling this lens, it should be good. How much do you pay for it? It wasn't cheap. I won't say beyond that, as I have too good a relationship with my local retailer to want to risk screwing it up. I may have gotten a very good price indeed, even so. BH sells it for about US $1500, if that's any help, Winston.
Re: Birding questions vs. Cat security (was Re: OT 8-) Wasting film on birds)
From: Kenneth Waller Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:32:24 -0700 - Keep the cat indoors. Kenneth Waller I would, but these Satan-filled little creatures are quick to sneak out. Collin --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
RE: 50/1.4 and 135/2.5
I plead guilty to starting this. It's not just that the F version is rated a bit higher than the FA version. It's that just one other 50mm was rated quite as high (4.6) by Photodo (Hasselblad); the Leica Sumicron-M 50mm f2.0. If these tests are credible, it places the SMC F 1.4/50mm as the very best 1.4/50mm ever tested by Photodo. The Leica Summilux-M 1.4/50mm was rated 4.2 - the same as the Pentax SMC FA 1.4/50mm. So this could indicate that the Pentax lenses can be even sharper than the corresponding Leica lenses. This is what I found interesting. It's not especially interesting, that there may be a samll difference betwen two versions of Pentax 50mm lenses. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. maj 2004 14:36 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: 50/1.4 and 135/2.5 I think this F better than FA 50/1.4 thing got started because PhotoDo rated the F a tad higher. Mark Roberts wrote: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the F 50/1.4 truly a better performer than the FA or the A version? IIRC, the F and FA versions are optically identical.
Re: Fryday FS
I think at the time this lens was produced Ricoh made their own, and most were very good. Keith Whaley wrote: That could well be! Ricoh has been around for some time. Do you happen to know who made the lens for Ricoh? No, no, it's early 90's and I believe it was made by Cosina. I also saw some bearing original Cosina name. Dario
Re: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
I suppose it depends on what you're doing with photos. I found 7 to be a vast improvement over 6 for photo repair and restoration, and the file browser is a wonderful tool, once you get to know it. As for it being a memory gobbler, I'd disagree on that point as well. It ran very well on a Win98 machine with 512mb of memory. Can't remember ever needing the scratch disk. Now, compared to Elements, maybe, but it's all relative. Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/21/2004 11:02:17 AM Subject: Re: To Photoshop Class, Or Not? IF you are just doing photos -- I've heard 7 is overkill and a ram gobbler annsan
Re: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
Is THAT what they call male turkeys out your way? keith whaley Ann Sanfedele wrote: TMP wrote: Taught myself, and I am still teaching... tan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 6:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: To Photoshop Class, Or Not? In the interest of changing the subject, and creating new threads, and all that... I've been debating taking a Photoshop class. (7 is what I'll be using, and let's not go there again, re versions. ;-)) So I am curious, if you use Photoshop, did you ever take a class in it? Or did you just learn it from books? Or what? Marnie aka Doe All the helpful guys on the list and the seat of my pants :) I've been winging it -- occasional questions of friends.. using the help menu..etc IF you are just doing photos -- I've heard 7 is overkill and a ram gobbler annsan
Local newspaper snapshot
Hi Pentax users one of my last black and white photos showing a pair of swans with the nest and 7 eggs was published two days ago in the snapshot of the week of a local newspaper called LiZ (Limmat-Zeitung) here. They usually select photos showing typical and current scenes from the Limmattal region, mostly landscape photos or close-up's of unusual things. I got some responses from people I know and it is indeed a special feeling to look at this edition of the newspaper :-) It's the second time in 2 month that my photo was chosen and both times I used a Pentax, the first time the ME super with the manual A70-210mm zoom and for the swans a Pentax SFx with manual Sigma Zoom 70-300mm at 300 mm on a tripod at about 10 meters distance to not disturb the birds. So, be encouraged to send your best shots to a publisher too, it is fun. The price money corresponds to about 12 rolls of film :-) happy pentaxing Markus
RE: A* 85mm f1.4 - worth over a $1,000?
Sold for 1200,45$ Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. maj 2004 16:22 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: A* 85mm f1.4 - worth over a $1,000? Check out ebay item 3815885925. Can't you buy a new FA* 85mm 1.4 for that sort of money? Antonio
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
I'm getting tired of this idiot. The man said, ...inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects... WHAT PART OF THE WORD INFLAMMATORY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Regards, Bob... I'm getting tired as well. I have a new proposal. How about we each send him an individual reply... EACH and EVERY time he posts more garbage to the list? He has sent 10 messages in the last 24 hours to the list. We all send him 10 messages back...multiplied by the number of pdml'ers. If some of you would care to include viruses or MAC viruses or whatever, what can I say. :-) Regards, Bob S.
RE: OT : Camera Fanny Pack (GFM)
And the Orion that Andre mentioned is here - good price too: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=15201item=3815952261 This the Mini version at 25$. The regular Orion is here at $40 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=15201item=3816529358 Andre
Re: Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
You know what? I don't care. I killfiled him some time ago, when it became apparent that the signal-to-noise ratio of his contributions was as close to zero as makes no difference. Unfortunately I still get to see some of his self-indulgent posturing because some people can't resist the temptation, and fall for the bait. Please don't - paying attention to his little temper tantrums is just what he wants. Why let him set the rules by playing the game his way? Don't reply to his postings. Read them if you must, although I think it's a waste of time. But denying him the attention he craves will upset him more than any possible reaction. I don't think he's a fool anymore actually... I think he's writing us from a mental ward somewhere, and the newspaper he's editor of is actually a 4 page weekly filled with the rants of true raving maniacs. -Shawn -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Lets take this beyond rude. You are a fucking asshole. A bombastic piece of shit. And a narcisitic sociopath. You don't care about anyone other than yourself. You have no concern for anyones feelings other than your own. Consider yourself lucky that this is an email list, rather than a face to face discussion. I'd be putting the boots to your head about now. I don't suffer fools in silence, and you certainly are a fool. Regards William Robb
K2 Problem
Hi all, I have a K2 that has developed a problem with the shutter. At slow speeds (approx 1/30 and below) about every third or fourth shot the speed will be off, it sounds like the camera is firing at sync speed (1/125). Anyone have any handy hints or experienced the same? Right now a CLA is not in my budget and if it's possible there is a fairly simple DIY solution that would be great. Thanks! William in Utah
RE: pdml members webpage
Amazoing photographs, Frantisek! A pleasure to watch! All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Frantisek Vlcek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. maj 2004 19:19 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML Emne: pdml members webpage Hi Paul, could you please update my listing? FRANTISEK VLCEK http://fotof.wz.cz Thanks! P.S.: I am also forwarding this to the list, in case your email link doesn't work, as was the case some time ago.
Re: OT: Hackers
Yup! We were there. Had a great time Otis Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me assure you that there were hackers at MIT in the early '60s, long before there were personal computers or viruses. Hacking was a form of recreation that often encompassed acomplishing things that were technically involved, challenging, and slightly illegal. Think about hacking the phone system or putting a replica of a Police Car with flashing lights and donuts on top of the Great Dome. Regards, Bob S. John Francis writes: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: Shawn K. wrote: *cough* Don't argue semantics with me!! You know, HACK is a derogatory term and so is hacker in its origin. Too late, I am arguing (though in the interest of neither boring nor annoying the rest of the list, I'll try to drop the parts that will soon become repetetive because each of us refuses to change our usage, and after your next public reply, we can argue more loudly _offlist_ if we both decide we're interested enough in continuing the argument (but my guess is that simply making clear exactly where each of us stands will suffice for now)). The problem is that the noun in question is the name of a subculture (and it _is_ a subculture) that I identify with and hang out with. So I've got a stake in this. In support of this position, the M.I.T. A.I. lab routinely used the term hacker in the positive sense. In fact the introduction to AIM 239 (better known as HAKMEM) says, in part: Here is some little known data which may be of interest to computer hackers. The items and examples are so sketchy that to decipher them may require more sincerity and curiosity than a non-hacker can muster. I'm sure HAKMEM is available on the web by now, but I'm looking at an original copy I was given (by Mike Beeler) when I visited the lab in the 1970s while I was working for DEC.
Re: Fryday FS
I think at the time this lens was produced Ricoh made their own, and most were very good. Keith Whaley wrote: That could well be! Ricoh has been around for some time. Do you happen to know who made the lens for Ricoh? No, no, it's early 90's and I believe it was made by Cosina. I also saw some bearing original Cosina name. Dario Before the 90s Ricoh wasn't making their own lenses neither. Some earlier Ricoh K lenses at the time of their first XR bodies in the 80s, were made by Asahi. I have an XR 28/3.5 and an XR 200/4 that are optically IDENTICAL to their Pentax M counterpart, I mean internal baffling rings, color of coating of all elements, same optics. Externally different: size of fosusing ring, rubber style, color of the distance marks... Andre
Re: A 15mm (ASP and non-ASP)
My 15mm does feature the 4 feet mark and the front lens diameter is 69 mm (measured with a caliper). It's a K SMC PENTAX 1:3.5/15, sn 5068171. Fabio Fabio, is it possible to get a more precise measure? 68,6 and 69,8 seems to pertain to the two different types and your 69mm measure lies about in between... It would be interesting to get Antti-Pekka's and Vic's measures too. Andre Non-ASP? Andre (SMC-T 8014040) 68mm (approx.) Stephen (SMC-K 7368xxx) 68 to 69mm Rod (SMC-A) 68,6mm (caliper) Unknown: Fabio (SMC-K 5068171) 69mm Antti-Pekka (SMC-K 505) ? Vic (SMC-K 7367862) ? ASP? Bob (SMC-T 8013862) 69.85mm
Re: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
Keith Whaley wrote: Is THAT what they call male turkeys out your way? keith whaley (snipp) IF you are just doing photos -- I've heard 7 is overkill and a ram gobbler annsan I think we better just let this one drop - the puns could get a leeettle dangerous annsan aka VBG
Re: OT: Hackers
Fascinating. My hacker days came just a bit later. Those of us who built computers when the first skill one had to have was knowing how to solder were the first hobbyist hackers. But that was as much hardware as (and often more than) software. Collin Builder of Netroics Elf II et. al --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
good Second hand stores for back-packs
Hi Tanya in the warehouses and specialized shops her, photo equipment and traveling bags are rather expensive. Prices easily start at $30 for a common camera bag and up to much more for robust back-backs or brands. Luckily there are half a dozen second hand stores near the town or in Zurich. Today I found a upholstered artificial leather photo bag in nearly unused condition. It has separate room (compartments) for a camera body, flash, two big lenses and a lot of space for filters and film in separate pockets and other useful equipment. It was $3 and at that price, they have a lot of special back-backs too, some in nearly new condition. I own now one for every of my 3 camera/lens sets ready to go outdoors:-) I often find filters and good books too, the camera bodies and lenses are mostly defective or in doubtful condition. The salesperson do not really know the value of filters, I get them for $3-$5 independent of brand, size or type. Do you have second hand shops like these and did you already make some good deals there? happy pentaxing Markus BTW, I just noticed that KEH.com has some pretty cheap used ones... tan.
Weekend survey
To sweeten your weekend, I have two questions for you (and yes, the results of the opinion poll will be published here) 1 Which 3 photos you made are your most loved ones? 1b is it for their content or the circumstances of the taking or anything else? 2 Are these photos of private affair showing for example members your family or not? 2b Would you publish them for us ? If yes, with a link :-) 3 feel free to add any impressive or strange stories about taking the shoots. Some of the photos I really love are of private nature when I was at the age of 17-20. I had two engagements as a seaman on Swiss freight ships worldwide and took my first photos on sea in 1977 with a Olympus XA compact camera. When the ship came into dock in Hong Kong the second time I worked as sailor in 1981, I bought my first Pentax ME super. I took a lot of pictures of the crew at work and gave the photos to them Most of the negatives have suffered severely and are unusable in between due to humidity and false storage :-( So I am left with about 10 enlargements from that time, some show the seamen baptized and hair cropping all over :-) thanks Markus
Re: A* 85mm f1.4 - worth over a $1,000?
Cheers Bob, Thanks for the tip. No worries about spoiling the bargain hunters hunt on this one then ;-( Antonio p.s. F4 lens would be 1:4, not 1.4 (which is 1:1.4) On 21 May 2004, at 20:09, Bob W wrote: Hi, Check out ebay item 3815885925. Can't you buy a new FA* 85mm 1.4 for that sort of money? that's a lot of money for an f:4.0 lens! ;O) The A* f/1.4 is at least as good as any other lens in its class, and usually sells for about the same as the others. A number of us have experience of this lens and other 85/1.4s from different makers. Whether it's worth it or not is a matter for the individual wallet. In another thread you asked for a list of the unwritten rules of pdml. There is a long-standing convention that we don't mention Pentax items on auction sites before the sale is concluded. The exception to this is that it's ok for people to post items they themselves are selling. The thinking behind this is that many people put a lot of effort into searching for bargains, and it's not fair on them if something they're bidding on suddenly attracts a lot of bids from people who put no effort into it. Some people disagree with this convention, and from time to time somebody posts notice of an auction. Occasionally it all flares up into an e-squabble. I neither buy nor sell on auction sites, so I have no personal stake in this either way. I don't know whether or not this sale was over when you posted your email, so I'm not having a go at you, merely mentioning one of our (sometimes controversial) little conventions. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Thats a really mature position Bob. S. But given you have been one of the prime flame throwers in this thread I am not surprised. Antonio On 21 May 2004, at 20:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting tired of this idiot. The man said, ...inflammatory OFF-TOPIC subjects... WHAT PART OF THE WORD INFLAMMATORY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Regards, Bob... I'm getting tired as well. I have a new proposal. How about we each send him an individual reply... EACH and EVERY time he posts more garbage to the list? He has sent 10 messages in the last 24 hours to the list. We all send him 10 messages back...multiplied by the number of pdml'ers. If some of you would care to include viruses or MAC viruses or whatever, what can I say. :-) Regards, Bob S.
Re: OT: Hackers
I must admit that my first knowledge of the term Hacker was in a positive, not negative sense too. A. On 21 May 2004, at 21:22, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Fascinating. My hacker days came just a bit later. Those of us who built computers when the first skill one had to have was knowing how to solder were the first hobbyist hackers. But that was as much hardware as (and often more than) software. Collin Builder of Netroics Elf II et. al --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: OT:Indoor horse pictures
Thanks John. Actually i cannot remember if any poles fell down.I was impressed as this was Gary's first jumping in over 20 years.He's a reining rider and operates the farm i do most of my shots at. Some of my first sales were with pictures from the SP500 and 105 f 2.8.I don't really need AF but it helps sometimes.:-) Dave On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:57:47 US/Eastern, you wrote: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/page_62.htm Added 20 pictures from a show last weekend.If any one wants to see what jumping looks like in a poorly lit arena at iso 1600,panned at the higest shutter is could get,click above link.g The kids like 'em even if i don't .LOL Enjoy Dave I like 'em. A friend invited me to a jumping show many, many years ago, pre-AF, and loaned me a K2 and 135mm lens. I even got a couple of good shots. It's not great art, but it is a very nice slice of life showing the efforts of horse and rider. My favorite is the last one, yag_0276.jpg, which I think must have taken down all the poles - seems to me there is no way that horse could clear from the position it is in. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Squirrel pictures
Shawn K. wrote: Haha, squirrels are definitely up there on the list of cool animals. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Squirrel pictures Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some birds who might want to do something to this squirrel http://users.rcn.com/annsan/norassquirrel.jpg It took this guy a while to figure out the mechanism - you had to admire his savvy. annsan p.s. I'm glad I tried to upload this three hours ago -- because my server suddenly REFUSED to let me upload -- they had screwed something up on my account telling me I only had 1 mg of space! It took me nearly three hours to get it straightened out - Since I got some very good news a little while before that happened I was a bit more calm and collected than I might have been earlier.
komkon
Hey, folks, I just accidentally tried the pug.komkon.org server and it's responding! Is this new, or has it been back for a while?? March seems to be the latest gallery it has. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
RE: OT: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
Hi Shel would you share the address of the Photoshop. list with me/us? I really need and want to learn more about imaging software.. :-) Answering the survey: I buy a lot of books second hand and try to learn from every source like the Pentax list too ;-) thanks Markus Photoshop list, Shel Belinkoff
Re: OT: Hackers
Bob, you're showing your age... norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me assure you that there were hackers at MIT in the early '60s, long before there were personal computers or viruses. Hacking was a form of recreation that often encompassed acomplishing things that were technically involved, challenging, and slightly illegal. Think about hacking the phone system or putting a replica of a Police Car with flashing lights and donuts on top of the Great Dome.
FS: Cameras and lenses
These are the remaining cameras and lenses that I want to sell: Pentax Z-1 AF SLR + Fdp Gripstrap + F electronic cable release + instruction manual, in Spanish (I will also include 2 unused 2CR5 lithium batteries, each one lasts about twenty-five 36-exposure films) and original boxes. The camera is in excellent condition, both mecanically and electronically, but there is some light mist into the eyepiece, not visible except against strong light. It doesn't have any influence on the performance of the camera or the metering, but it is somewhat annoying when you are shooting backlit scenes. I suppose it is quite easy to clean, but I don't dare to disassemble the eyepiece, and as I want to sell the camera, it doesn't make to much sense to have it cleaned. I want 220 euros for everything, a cheap price due to the eyepiece issue. Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR + Fg AA battery grip + Spanish instruction manual, boxed. Both the camera and the battery grip are in LN condition (I don't have the neckstrap, though). 200 euros. SMC-Pentax FA 80-320 mm. 4.5-5.6 AF zoom (black version) + Pentax plastic clip-on hood (designed for the K-series 85-210 mm.) 135 euros. In excellent+ condition. 120 euros. Kenko SHQ 1.5x AF teleconverter + case. Like new and boxed, it has the contacts needed for Pentax powerzoom lenses. 50 euros. If you are interested in one of these items, please send a message to my email box, not the list. Shipping expenses are not included in these prices. Thank you for your attention. Carlos Royo - Zaragoza (Aragon), Spain The struggle of people against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting Milan Kundera (La lucha del pueblo contra el poder es la lucha de la memoria contra el olvido)
Re: K2 Problem
WJ I have a K2 that has developed a problem with the shutter. At slow speeds WJ (approx 1/30 and below) about every third or fourth shot the speed will be WJ off, it sounds like the camera is firing at sync speed (1/125). Anyone have WJ any handy hints or experienced the same? Right now a CLA is not in my WJ budget and if it's possible there is a fairly simple DIY solution that would WJ be great. I think there is none (simple solution). This problem indicates probably dirty shutter solenoids - that's not a trivial repair, although it can be done by a competent CLA. Sorry to disappoint you :-( I do hope it's some simpler error, though. Does it occur only in AUTO or MAN mode as well? Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: pdml members webpage
Friday, May 21, 2004, 9:09:18 PM, Jens wrote: JB Amazoing photographs, Frantisek! A pleasure to watch! JB All the best I am flattered! Thank you so much :-) I must work a lot on the frontpage, though. I should get some friendly webdesigner to design me a normal front page, instead of that quick hack you have seen. BTW, I just uploaded there an update with what I hope is an interesting short photoessay on a limestone quarry (stone pit for you British subjects g). Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: good Second hand stores for back-packs
Hi, all of the specialised photo bags are rather expensive. I am using Domkes at my work (they are excellent for reportages), but for some unconspicious photo bags you can consider the many military and boyscout bags. They are dirt cheap, and look sufficiently dirty to not attract thieves. My friend carries his rather expensive better unnamed German camera in one. You can do very good customised padded inserts from a foam sleeping mat (closed cell foam like Evazote is the best, and is cheap in craft stores) plus some nylon cloth so the cameras won't catch on the foam. Add some weatherproofing spray and you are all set. Especially if you are a non-trendy old bearded guy, nobody would except an expensive camera with you! Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: komkon
Wow. I'd given them up for dead. CW - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: komkon Hey, folks, I just accidentally tried the pug.komkon.org server and it's responding! Is this new, or has it been back for a while?? March seems to be the latest gallery it has. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 5/19/2004
Re: OT: Hackers
Maybe just wearing it well. Otis Wright Norm Baugher wrote: Bob, you're showing your age... norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me assure you that there were hackers at MIT in the early '60s, long before there were personal computers or viruses. Hacking was a form of recreation that often encompassed acomplishing things that were technically involved, challenging, and slightly illegal. Think about hacking the phone system or putting a replica of a Police Car with flashing lights and donuts on top of the Great Dome.
Re: OT : Camera Fanny Pack (GFM)
BTW, I went with the Tamrac Velocity 5. Someone on Amazon gave it a good review regarding it fitting the 300D (it's slightly deeper than some waist/fanny packs). Also it is modular so I can add on a water bottle and a deeper lens bag. Which is what I did. Ching, ching, ching. Now I have to retotal the GFM trip costs. ;-) Again, thanks everyone for their input. Marnie aka Doe Too busy to real-life shop, unfortunately.
Re: Birding questions vs. Cat security (was Re: OT 8-) Wasting film on birds)
Peter J. Alling wrote: Gonz wrote: Collin Brendemuehl wrote: snip d) put a high voltage wire around the tree and feed the resultant chicken-fried cat to the jays Wouldn't that be sudden fried? Or KFC (Kentucky Fried Cat). lol Your opinions please. ;=) Collin --- 'Tautology is' Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Squirrel pictures
Hi, http://users.rcn.com/annsan/norassquirrel.jpg It took this guy a while to figure out the mechanism - you had to admire his savvy. You might enjoy these: http://www.squirrels.org/video.html -- Cheers, Bob
Re: K2 Problem
Both :-( Thanks. I was afraid it might be expensive. William in Utah. - Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: William Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:58 PM Subject: Re: K2 Problem WJ I have a K2 that has developed a problem with the shutter. At slow speeds WJ (approx 1/30 and below) about every third or fourth shot the speed will be WJ off, it sounds like the camera is firing at sync speed (1/125). Anyone have WJ any handy hints or experienced the same? Right now a CLA is not in my WJ budget and if it's possible there is a fairly simple DIY solution that would WJ be great. I think there is none (simple solution). This problem indicates probably dirty shutter solenoids - that's not a trivial repair, although it can be done by a competent CLA. Sorry to disappoint you :-( I do hope it's some simpler error, though. Does it occur only in AUTO or MAN mode as well? Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: OT: Safelight question
Hi Collin. I must have mised your respose. I don't know if fog is the correct term.The prints have a grey ness to them.I don't have this problem with the dark room class.Prints look good and whites are white,blacks are black.At home they are more grey whites and muddy blacks. Paper and chemicals are new. I'll investigate an amber bulb if i can find one. Thanks Dave I never had a problem with a dark red bulb fogging paper. But ... is the fogging consistent across the paper, including the border? -- suspect your paper of heat/age damage. is the fogging in swirls? -- suspect the light. The swirls come when swishing the developer in the try, so the liquid acts as a fluid lens and makes the patterns. Do a print in total darkness (obviously except for the paper exposure) to diagnose further. I've also had some fast papers that didn't like amber, so I had to go back to dark red. Collin
Re: Swiss cheese is innocent - Backup is the word!
Sorry Marcus, I take it all back! I should have said Smith Cheese. Sorry, A. On 21 May 2004, at 00:21, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Antonio now you have gone much too far for me. ;-) would you please not accuse the innocent Swiss cheese in your ongoing off topic monotone and useless OS comparisons. I will immediately *backup* my cheese supply (Commonly known as the *only real* protection) will be one, nothing is perfect. But compared to the Swiss cheese that windows has become OSX is a veritable fort Knox. Antonio
Re: K2 Problem
Friday, May 21, 2004, 10:20:22 PM, William wrote: WJ Both :-( WJ Thanks. I was afraid it might be expensive. Hi William. I am sorry :-( But still, try to contact some good repairman (vis the list of Pentax repairs reviewed by PDML members, link is somewhere on www.mycroft.de), perhaps it will be some easier repair. I am not sure about the fault myself. It still could be something else. The K2 are mostly very modular and welldesigned cameras, so repairing them is much easier than for example an LX. Don't give up :) Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: OT: Safelight question
bcin I don't know if fog is the correct term.The prints have a bcin grey ness to them.I don't have Hi Dave, that would indeed seem like fogging by safelight. A small light exposure which doesn't show itself on the print, a treshold exposure, while not showing, can seriously affect the contrast of the print when you expose it on the enlarger. This effect is sometimes used deliberately to lower the contrast of slides in high contrast scenes. Do the blind test, you will see if it's light leakage or bad chemistry. The packaging is ok on the papers? Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
OT: Shipping Used Pentax Equipment to Canada
Hello I live in Canada I want to purchase some Pentax equipment from KEH. Has anyone on this list done this? Being used equipment, what kind of duty would I expect to pay? KEH has told me that they ship to Canada all the time, but once a package reaches the border customs it's a different story! People can e-mail me off list @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] not clog up this mailing list of they want. Thanks! Cliff Nietvelt Calgary, AB = Cliff Nietvelt Photography www.cliffnietvelt.com Box 4174 Banff, Alberta T1L 1E6 CANADA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer
RE: Squirrel pictures
Good shots Ann! My grandmother was thinking about getting one of those for her bird feeder as she has some squirrel problems. I took one look at it and told her there was no way that would hold them off for more than 5 or 10 minutes. And here now is the photographic proof!! -Shawn -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Squirrel pictures Shawn K. wrote: Haha, squirrels are definitely up there on the list of cool animals. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Squirrel pictures Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some birds who might want to do something to this squirrel http://users.rcn.com/annsan/norassquirrel.jpg It took this guy a while to figure out the mechanism - you had to admire his savvy. annsan p.s. I'm glad I tried to upload this three hours ago -- because my server suddenly REFUSED to let me upload -- they had screwed something up on my account telling me I only had 1 mg of space! It took me nearly three hours to get it straightened out - Since I got some very good news a little while before that happened I was a bit more calm and collected than I might have been earlier.
PENTAX *ISTD RAW DATA PHOTOSHOP PLUGIN MODULE
Hi, Does this module work with PS Elements 2 or Paintshop Pro 8. Dave
RE: good Second hand stores for back-packs
LOL! Markus, you don't know where I live do you?! We have precisely 8 shops in my town - a supermarket, a post office, a butchers, a newsagents, a chemist, a video/dvd hire shop, a shoe shop and a florist. We also have 3 cafe/coffee shops and 6 Pubs! The nearest city that would have any of the type of stores that you mention, is about 1200kms away! As such, I pretty much do ALL of my shopping online, but I can't wait to get to the US and check out the thrift/second hand stores (we call them Op Shops), and see just what I am missing out on! tan. -Original Message- From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 22 May 2004 5:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: good Second hand stores for back-packs Hi Tanya in the warehouses and specialized shops her, photo equipment and traveling bags are rather expensive. Prices easily start at $30 for a common camera bag and up to much more for robust back-backs or brands. Luckily there are half a dozen second hand stores near the town or in Zurich. Today I found a upholstered artificial leather photo bag in nearly unused condition. It has separate room (compartments) for a camera body, flash, two big lenses and a lot of space for filters and film in separate pockets and other useful equipment. It was $3 and at that price, they have a lot of special back-backs too, some in nearly new condition. I own now one for every of my 3 camera/lens sets ready to go outdoors:-) I often find filters and good books too, the camera bodies and lenses are mostly defective or in doubtful condition. The salesperson do not really know the value of filters, I get them for $3-$5 independent of brand, size or type. Do you have second hand shops like these and did you already make some good deals there? happy pentaxing Markus BTW, I just noticed that KEH.com has some pretty cheap used ones... tan.
Re: A15 sample pix
Here are some old interior shots with the A15. http://members.aol.com/lys93/MainPage.htm It is truely wide. You must concentrate to hold it level and keep from distortions. I noticed some light fall-off wide open. Regards Bob S.
RE: PENTAX *ISTD RAW DATA PHOTOSHOP PLUGIN MODULE
YES! (assuming you mean the 'Pentax' RAW plugin and not the 'Adobe' Photoshop CS RAW convertor) -Original Message- From: David Sprinkle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 May 2004 22:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PENTAX *ISTD RAW DATA PHOTOSHOP PLUGIN MODULE Hi, Does this module work with PS Elements 2 or Paintshop Pro 8. Dave
Re: To Photoshop Class, Or Not?
On May 21, 2004, at 1:53 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: IF you are just doing photos -- I've heard 7 is overkill and a ram gobbler annsan That's probably true. I did fine with 6. But if you're working with the *ist D or any other digital camera, you want CS. The RAW conversion is worth its weight in gold. Paul
Re: FS Friday: Some Neat Items
Joe, I'm interested in the Arsat lens . . . does it act as an M or an A lens? Have you tried it on the *ist D? Is the k-mount permanantly attached, or does it screw off like the pentax m-42 to K adapter? IL Bill On May 20, 2004, at 9:21 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: Well, the time has come to part with some fine gear that I am just not using. It will be like watching the kids leave home. With regret I offer the following. All prices are U.S. and do not include shipping (which will be at cost). FA PowerZoom 28-105 F4.0-5.6. This is one of my favorites, but I have two. (The other one will be taken, as the saying goes, from my cold, dead hands.) It's a wonderful, sharp lens, and the best 28-105 that Pentax had made. It's large and a bit heavy on MZ/ZX bodies, wonderful on the (P)Z-1 or 1p. Ex or EX+ by KEH standards. KEH sells them for $126. This one is $100. It is truly a lot of lens for $100. Pentax AF 400T turnip-masher flash, with bracket. GN 130 (in feet). This is a big, professional flash, that tilts, swivels, and twirls in all directions. If you can't illuminate your subject with this, wait until daylight. Can also be used to club spouses who change the settings on color-calibrated monitors. EX or EX+. KEH sells them from $189 to $205. Yours for $150. Sigma 70-300 AF APO Macro F4.0-5.6. This is the apochromatic version, and it yields quite sharp images. The macro capability if quite handy. KEH has one in EX+ for $133. This one is like new with original box, bag, shade, papers, all for $100.00 Olympus Varimagni Right Angle Finder. This one fits Pentax cameras (at least since the PZ-1p, including the *ist D). It has 1.2 and 2.5x magnification, and shifts between landscape and portrait mode. I'd keep it, but since I wear glasses it is just too difficult for me. $125, or make me a reasonable offer. And the surprise: Arsat 35 mm. F2.8 shift/tilt in K-mount. This one came directly from the factory in the Ukraine (where the K-mount attachment was put on specifically to fill my order) and is still in like new condition. Here's your chance to own a genuine tilt/shift lens for a fraction of the price of a Japanese one. It is sharp, sturdy, and well made. These go for over $400 on eBay. Yours for $300, or make me a reasonable counteroffer. If interested please contact me off-list at: jtainter at mindspring dot com In a few days anything not sold will go to KEH. Thanks, Joe
Refconverter M
Hello all, A month or two back, I posted to the list, asking if the Refconverter M could be mounted to the *ist D. I'm happy to report back now, that I have obtained and tested this item on my own *ist D. One of the concerns was that the M series cameras had a smaller viewfinder (or at least the viewfinder and the information contained there-within). As it turns out, the M Refconverter is able to see all information in the viewfinder of the *ist D, which I believe is due to the smaller size. As a side note, this was a purchase from ebay, which I believe I got a good deal on. Upon arrival, I found that the refconverter had been dropped during it's life, and had a crack in it when viewed from the nonbusiness end of the Refconverter. However, when viewed from the business end, the crack is not visible, and it is a perfectly acceptable user model. I attribute this to the great manufacturing of Pentax. IL Bill
Re: Why can't they just fade away?
You want a bully? I'm the biggest damn bully on the block! I love physical violence. I find it a particularly excellent workout. I'm twisted and not altogether sane and love it. I'm at It's a Grind coffee shop, 1035 N. Tustin Blvd., Anaheim, California where I hang most days. If not here, anyone else in the shop can point your Gestapo to where I am. As to perspectives, I believe you need a new one. Bend over and find that big hole just behind your scrotum. Stick your head up in there. You'll find yourself quite in the dark, which should help you in your quest to avoid disturbing enlightenment. As for air, you may breath all the methane you heretofore have been spewing out to the list. Don't worry about food. Eat all you want, the new perspective insures a never ending supply. Just talk. Damn, I enjoyed that! Bob... From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill, You sound like just another bully to me. If you feel physical violence is the way to participate in a debate then you are as twisted as Mr Robb. All we are discussing here is opinions, that is all. Try and keep a sense of perspective. I will participate in the threads that I see fit - regardless of whether that is to your liking or not thank you very much. My opinions are my opinions, you don't have to agree with them, just respect them. Antonio On 21 May 2004, at 18:34, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Antonio Aparicio wrote: Dear William, I should bring to your attention that making threatening to kick someone's head in, as well as being totally uncalled for, is also illegal. Clearly you are not interested in any form of adult debate, but rather are using this group to offload your own frustrations and are completely out of contact with reality. You sound like quite a dangerous person. Yeah, Right - Nick Danger/Third Eye! Watch your back for Rocky Rococco! Mr Robb has been a member of this little group for at least 5yrs now and is considered a treasure trove of real world info and experience in the field of photograhy in general and film finishing in particular. You, on the other hand, are a brash newcomer apparently hell-bent on riling everyone (sooner or later, w/ some topic or another), as if a gnat buzzing about folks heads and shoulders w/ unrelenting persistence in justifying yourself on any tiny bit of opinion - mostly on subjects at best peripherial to the photographic process. Your recent interest in a few lens threads does bode some degree of redemption. Should you, perchance, make an effort to involve yourself more w/ these sort of Pentax/Photo threads perhaps, in due time, your initial forays in re OS'es and stuff which have seemingly caused such a flap will recede from the group memory and we can all get along just fine, by-gones being by-gones and all that. Please provide me with your full name and address as I wish to file a complaint against you with the police. HAR! gimme a break! . now, aren't you sorry you woke me up? Bill
Re: Comparison: 77 on 35 vs. 50 on APS sensor
KT Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, folks, if you do not have an FA50/1.4 yet, secure it now before it becomes one of the legendary lenses :-). What he said. :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: A rare moment...
Anyone here have any IRC bots?? I hang out on EfNet quite a bit, not as much as I used to, but it's a pretty busy server so a good choice if attracting newbies is a goal. maybe #pentax would be a good name? -Shawn -Original Message- From: Henri Toivonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A rare moment... Brian Dipert wrote: ...in spite of the blizzard of individual emails that'd land in my already bursting inbox as a result, I actually find myself seriously pondering switching from the digest version of this list to the regular version, just so I can filter out one particular individual's never-ending tirade. A sad situation, indeed; in the lengthy amount of time I've subscribed to this list, and through all the situations I've experienced on it, this is the first time I've had such thoughts. I found myself thinking some time ago that there should be a channel for discussions on IRC. (Internet Relay Chat, a chat network thingy.) The amount of mail you get after one night is pretty cumbersome, especially when its 95% OT-crap (no offence, people). Some alternative way of discussing, 1on1 or more, could be a nice alternative to this mailing back and forth. /Henri
