PESOs - Two More from NorCal Meet
I've been working on photos all day since I recovered them. Then I started wondering how to share them. I can't compete with the great shots that John has already shared, and Godfrey's two, and more great shots to come from Bruce and Shel and others, I am sure. So I decided to dribble out about six photos as PESOs, probably in twos. Then I'll direct you later to a GESO with about ten others that you haven't seen. Not that you are waiting with bated breath, but you might find it interesting to see what each of us noticed, shooting in the same area, that the others didn't. Or did, as the case may be. I really have no decent shots of PDMLers, it seemed others were doing that, and the few I got turned out poorly. Besides I want CREDIT for some PESOs! ;-) (Since I haven't done that many.) So here are two PESOs from the recent NorCal PDML meet, probably my favorites: Fern Gradient -- Japanese Gardens http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/ferns.htm Fat Watch -- History Park http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/watch.htm These are slightly smaller with a slightly lower resolution than I normally do, because I was/am planning on posting a group of shots from the outing. Comments welcome, of course. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: Shift lens
In a message dated 3/7/2005 11:11:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are they still getting use like they did back in the day? Just curious... (the auction is listed at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879943336 ) Dave At both workshops I've been to recently (John Shaw and George Lepp), they mentioned them in connection with digital cameras. Especially when it comes to panoramics, so I would guess -- yes. HTH, Marnie
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
fra: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option). I depends. If it is important for the picture to be sharp I use both hands. If the action and movement is important I sometimes use one hand. ¨This is a two hands photo: http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1447396 and this is one hand (and no finder) photo: http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1472179 DagT
Re: JOBO reply
In a message dated 3/7/2005 11:16:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, excuse me for being ignorant here, but why this need to badmouth anyone? I thought the Brits were the world's best at apportioning blame ;-) If it happened to me (in the state of California), I would first find the sales receipt for the item, check how long ago I bought it, check warranty conditions, and start on a course of seeking a refund or exchange. The usual warranty period on an item like that is 1 year (here in the UK), so what is the warranty period? As Mike mentioned, if something still breaks even after a year (here in the UK), then there is still provision within the law to follow up. An item has to be fit for the purposes for which it was sold. People have chased the makers of faulty goods through the small claims courts here with some success. It is time, but if successful, it isn't money (costs can be claimed, including damages). Now if the thing is only worth a hundred bucks and it is three years old, well, possibly learn from the experience and by all means point out the inadequacies of the brand to colleagues and friends, but this is the internet - there are eyes everywhere ;-) Best, Cheers, Cotty == $200, less than a year old, died on four uses. Well, Cotty, I had no idea I might have it replaced after having bought it over six months ago, so my only recourse seemed to be to badmouth someone. I HATE it when something breaks with just a few uses. And I don't consider $200 cheap. Besides, badmouthing is fun. But, yes, I am now going to see if I can get a refund or another image saver, not necessarily the ImageTank. I really don't want a replacement, see, and that is usually what a store would do. You mean I can't b now and then? Why the hell not? Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML gathering
In a message dated 3/7/2005 12:02:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Images at http://jfwaf.com/PDML/ Comments, should you feel so inclined, would be welcome. == John, some superb shots here. I am with frank, I like the tower the best. But I also like the two upper right shots, the fountains, one lined up in front of the building and one with palm frond shadows. But I sort of hate that you posted first, though, because you so intimidated me that it is hard now to post my much more mediocre ones. ;-) Love that lens too, but not switching back just to get it. Nice shots. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: I got it to work!
In a message dated 3/7/2005 7:48:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sheesh, all this complaining to companies, aggravation, and trouble running around for a few not-very-good pictures. They *may* have been not-very-good (I haven't seen 'em; you said it) but they are YOUR pictures. You're certainly entitled to want them. Even to want them really, really badly. Hope that helps. Glad you got 'em back. ERNR == Thanks. :-) Well, one or two aren't too bad. -- You're right they're mine. They're MY not-so-good shots. Hehehe. It does make a difference. Marnie
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
Those are both great shots DagT. I generally use both hands. I only use one hand for candid grab shots. Dave S On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 9:22:20 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option). I depends. If it is important for the picture to be sharp I use both hands. If the action and movement is important I sometimes use one hand. ¨This is a two hands photo: http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1447396 and this is one hand (and no finder) photo: http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1472179 DagT
Re: LX Repair Update, March 7, 2005
In a message dated 3/7/2005 4:40:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I mentioned that the thin weather-stripping around the prism cover (that I removed to see if all the contacts/solder joints looked okay) needed to be replaced. He seemed more concerned that such thin stripping may be hard to find - if that's their biggest problem, then I'm happy. Further reports as new developments arise... cheers, frank === Good luck, frank. I would think someone on this list would know where to find something that would work. Fingers crossed for you. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO -- Art-House
In a message dated 3/7/2005 5:07:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A bit of a brain teaser... http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_arthouse.html Technical Information: PENTAX *ist-D @ ISO 200 shutter speed 1/100sec SMC PENTAX-M 1:2.8 @ f8.0 = V-e-r-y intersting. I really, really like it. Nice colors too, black and white and yellow. Works well. It's almost a jigsaw puzzle. Cool. You know what else is cool? As the browser progressively loads the jpeg, it changes, the house gets more color and detail behind the fence. A nice side effect of web image loading. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: PESO -- Art-House
In a message dated 3/7/2005 5:21:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bokeh from a mirror lens? g Very cool shot, Peter! cheers, frank = You mean, it's not a fence? Marnie aka Doe
RE: Portable Storage Devices (and Viewers)
As my personal experience, friend at one agency was issued an early X-Drive, and it might be even worse than Marnie's ImageTank... Abysmally slow and small battery. Bear in mind that the autonomy figures on that website are unclear about verification. Some devices offer verification which reads the card two times, comparing the data. Which may or may not halve the times mentioned there (the website is mostly compilation of others experiences, so not truly a test of all devices!)... Good light! fra
DS writing speed
My apologies if this has been discussed before but a friend bought a DS following my recommendations, so now I have to continue supporting it. ;o) So he wants to know if it's worth upgrading from a 60X SD card to a 80X, is the DS fast enough to make a difference in the continuous shooting speed (obviously this is after the internal buffer gets filled). Thanks. Servus, Alin
Re: PESO: On My Way To Work: Hazy Summer Morning
In a message dated 3/7/2005 3:30:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last week, being weary of winter, I scanned a slide from a few years ago. This was taken on the Penn campus as I paused on my way to work. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3178194 Comments appreciated. Rick = That's nice. Good composition, nice color combos, and interesting texture. A winner. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Groovless CDs?
DM I nearly managed to convince a colleague that they were a new DM technology, that you could burn them in a CD writer and play them back DM on a record player. Couldn't keep a straight face though. The blasphemy! ;-) Good light! fra
WARNING: PayPal Update
WOW, I am supposed to update my PayPal information on cockeyed.com. I am not THAT stupid! I hope no one else here is either. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.3 - Release Date: 3/7/2005
Re: eBay Scamming - a good read
Who pays them money. Not the buyers that is certain. You can almost always figure out who has the clout just by watching the flow of the dollars. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Joseph Tainter wrote: Message: eBay looks out for sellers, not buyers. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.3 - Release Date: 3/7/2005
Portable Storage Devices (and Viewers)
Hi Shel, as you were asking about how to name them, I assume you are interested in them. Excellent comparison of the devices can be found here: http://fhoude34.free.fr/PortableHD.htm It lists the total GB you can transfer before running out of juice, transfer speeds, FAT32 compatibility,... Especially in the autonomy there are big differences! Some devices let you only backup 2-4GB before running out of battery, taking insane amount of time! Good light! fra
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option). I'm not sure about successfully but I occasionally shoot one handed when faced with an obsticle I can't shoot through or go round. I once had to shoot an entire production process of gas cookers from over the top of machine guards using a Ricoh RDC-5000 :) John
RE: What do you call those devices ...
Nice clue. I guess that Wolverine is the American name for Vosonic, judging from this old (discontinued) model: http://www.preissuchmaschine.de/psm_frontend/main.asp?produkt=311105 Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 7. marts 2005 20:17 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: What do you call those devices ... Go to BH Photo website Click on Digital Photography Click on Data Transfer Storage Devices Click on Stand Alone Data Storage They don't carry the CompactDrive PD7X, which is one of the ones I'm considering. You can find that at http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.422/.f Godfrey On Mar 7, 2005, at 10:22 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Which one do you have? Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton Go to www.mydigitaldiscount.com and choose the category on the left entitled Portable Storage Devices - you'll get a pretty good list and quite good prices overall.
Re: Groovless CDs?
DGAJ (And then there's the intentional skip at the end of DGAJ (Your Love Is Like) Nuclear Waste so that the explosion DGAJ goes on forever. And the Monty Python album that had two DGAJ grooves on one side, making essentially a three-sided LP. Yes! And all the interesting records in Soviet Union (samizdat records which one could roll up ones sleeve, because of police confiscation of modern music, or postcard records - a thin film postcard with sound grooves, which could be played on normal players, but there were postcards sold under the counter which were actually modern, forbidden music but looked the same as the kitsch music postcards sold normally), or all the records which are part of the album's artwork as well (Cassiber with their interesting transparent records, Art Zoyd with their 33RPM SP-size flexible record made of thin film again, with place coin as weight here if record slips mark on one side (it worked!), and I am sure a plethora of other interesting usages and misuses of the technology for creative purposes. That is interesting stuff. Anybody knows about some more details or an article somewhere? The MP's double-grooved record, all the others, etc. Thanks! Good light! fra
Re: Portable Storage Devices (and Viewers)
Hi, another concern of mine about these devices is that most of them seem to not be well shock protected. The devices I was able to see insides of (the ones that have user-changeable HDD and somebody posted photos on internet), do not have any shock protection for either the PCB with electronics or the harddrive itself. I assume 2.5 notebook drives have reasonably rugged mechanics inside, but still, the makers of rugged, drop-proof notebooks like Panasonic Toughbooks and others _all_ use shock-proof-mounted HDDs in them, not just normally screwed on. And PCBs with electronics can desolder from shock. I have seen enough damaged notebooks this way, where a chip has partly separated itself from the motherboard by some shock. This usually meant dead notebook or whole motherboard replacement. What I would like to see in such an unit would be: 1) shock-mounted innards. Electronics AND hdd. 2) in the best models, dustproof and spilllproof 3) easy and reliable verification of transfers 4) running on interchangeable batteries (rechargeable (secondary) AAs seem to be the best, as you can get longlasting primary Lithiums when you can't recharge the NiMHs, _with_ voltage regulation (so for 5V HDDs, running from 5-6AA cells _with_ regulated voltage down to stable 5V. The Compactdrive is unregulated, sadly. Is that asking too much ;-) ? I guess it's again the old quality vs. quantity... Or wait until solid state memory cards are big and cheap enough to hold all the photos without need for separate HDD. Or for somebody with money-no-concern attitude, get a rugged tablet PC with built-in CF slot or external USB/firewire reader... that's a lot more expensive than these standalone storage devices though... Good light! fra
Re: JOBO reply
AFAIK there is no US Federal laws about that. In each state it varies. Everyone except a few mega-retailers (Wal-Mart, Home Depot, etc.) tries to pass the buck. Ultimately whoever's name is on the written warranty is responsible. No written warranty? Then you are dependant upon the seller's generosity. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JOBO reply With all the redistribution these days it really is a PITA figuring out who to badmouth and/or who to complain to. Where does the buck stop? See other thread, evidentially with the seller. That doesn't seem quite right to me, but, oh, well. Laws are different depending on where you are living. I think you'll find that the buck flies right past the seller and lands on the manufacturers doorstep very quickly in the USA. William Robb -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.3 - Release Date: 3/7/2005
Re: OT: I got it to work!
Yah, Marnie, what she (ERN) said. They ARE your photos. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sheesh, all this complaining to companies, aggravation, and trouble running around for a few not-very-good pictures. They *may* have been not-very-good (I haven't seen 'em; you said it) but they are YOUR pictures. You're certainly entitled to want them. Even to want them really, really badly. Hope that helps. Glad you got 'em back. ERNR -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.3 - Release Date: 3/7/2005
Re: SMCP-FA versus Takumar-F? Surprise!
The FA is one of the worst lenses I've ever mounted on a camera. From 28-50 it's bad, from 50-90 it just gets worse. Contrast, sharpness, flare, focusing, build quality, all off the charts.the bottom that is. I had to give it two or three chances to focus on the right thing half the time. The 28-** lenses seem to have gradually declined in quality since the 28-105 FA power zoom and it shows in MTF scores, build quality and other areas. The old power zoom had good contrast and sharpnes, reasonable build quality, rapid and precise AF, very little flare, no zoom creep, good close focus 1:3 it even retracts to it's minimum length when powered off :) They're still listed new in the UK at around £300! John
Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm
Thanks again, time to build myself a loupe I think. John -- Original Message --- From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Whittingham pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 01:49:20 +0100 Subject: Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm Monday, March 7, 2005, 4:56:50 PM, John wrote: JW Many thanks. JW John OTOH, I did some more reading on the subject, just from web (I can't dig out my Focal Press encyclopaedia right now, it's not in my home library sadly), and it seems the formula for loupe magnification is highly biased... depending on the viewer. The magnification is given as mag vs normal viewing distance of 25cm... Now, the formula I have given should be 90% valid for comparisons agains magnification given on loupes. I have even measured the focal length of few loupes I have at home, at is is roughly valid. However, some places mention the formula with additional +1 for magnification, so a 50mm lens would be 6x. I think the exact number is not so important, it's just for reference to loupes that are not specified by focal length but by mag only. So a 50mm lens would still be comparable to 5-6x loupe, which is exactly what I found out after viewing countless negatives in the lab with their 5x nikkor loupe. Good light! fra --- End of Original Message ---
I have a wobbly monitor!
Hey guys, Completely off topic here but in light of the recent monitor discussion, I too have a monitor problem. For some reason, and only at night time, the display on my monitor does this funny flickering, wobbly thing. I can continue to work on it but it kinda makes me motion sick. lol. Anyways, it never gets turned off, but ONLY does it at night, which I think is a very strange phenomena, I mean how can a CRT monitor tell the time?! I'm really wondering if it is time to take the plunge into the world of LCD screens, but even through the discussion you guys have been having, I am still seeing the benefits of staying old school. Suggestions gratefully accepted... :) Tan. Tanya Mayer Photography Brisbane, Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549 Mobile +61 0437831247
Re: JOBO reply
On 8/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: $200, less than a year old, died on four uses. Well, Cotty, I had no idea I might have it replaced after having bought it over six months ago, so my only recourse seemed to be to badmouth someone. I HATE it when something breaks with just a few uses. And I don't consider $200 cheap. Neither do I. It's under a year - get a refund! Check consumer laws in California - you may be entitled to a refund even if the manufacturer offers a replacement. Telephone to find out your rights - for the cost of phone call, you can rest assured that you are doing the right thing: http://www.dca.ca.gov/ Sick em girl, sick em You mean I can't b now and then? Why the hell not? It's never stopped you before ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: JOBO reply
On 8/3/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: AFAIK there is no US Federal laws about that. In each state it varies. Everyone except a few mega-retailers (Wal-Mart, Home Depot, etc.) tries to pass the buck. Ultimately whoever's name is on the written warranty is responsible. No written warranty? Then you are dependant upon the seller's generosity. That is truly an appalling state of affairs - for a consumer driven society it is inexcusable. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
Very nice. I like the composition. Perhaps a little oversaturated, but it goes with the concept. One good hand is as good as three -- or at least two. Paul On Mar 7, 2005, at 11:02 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:58:01 -0500, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:48:16 +1000, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option). I'm not sure about the successful part, but I do. Mostly at parties, with a wide angle lens, while not looking through the viewfinder. Just point the camera in the general direction and snap. It tends to catch folks unaware. You can also get some interesting angles and viewpoints. As an example, here's a PESO from a while back. No time for viewfinders or two hands on the camera. My youngest, Claire, sucking on a Warhead, a candy that's excruciatingly sour for about 15 seconds, then turns sweet: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349851 Taken during the initial sour part g. Sorry about the large size, it was posted before I was told... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
On 8/3/05, Tan and Steve, discombobulated, unleashed: Completely off topic here but in light of the recent monitor discussion, I too have a monitor problem. For some reason, and only at night time, the display on my monitor does this funny flickering, wobbly thing. I can continue to work on it but it kinda makes me motion sick. lol. Anyways, it never gets turned off, but ONLY does it at night, which I think is a very strange phenomena, I mean how can a CRT monitor tell the time?! I'm really wondering if it is time to take the plunge into the world of LCD screens, but even through the discussion you guys have been having, I am still seeing the benefits of staying old school. Suggestions gratefully accepted... I'm sure the technophiles will jump in here with the maths, but IIRC, check your monitor's refresh rate. If it's 75 Herz (or is it KiloHertz??) or thereabouts, flicker can be quite an issue to some eyes. More noticeable in a dark environment. 85 KHz and above is better... To my knowledge LCDs don't flicker at a rate that can be perceived by the human eye. I may be talking total bollocks here. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO Looking after Mary and Frederik
Nicely composed. Pretty colors. It appears to be very sharp in this web version. Are the hats green on the bottom and yellow on top, or are they blooming a bit? Paul On Mar 8, 2005, at 12:32 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: A quick PESO from me shot Monday in the forecourt of the Sydney Opera House: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP1742.jpg (~330kB) Tech: *ist D (in two hands) 77mm LTD Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
Some sleepless wireless surfer in the neighborhood? ;o) Now seriously, you should look for any microwave generating appliance in the proximity of your place. Try change your monitor position, see if anything changes. Servus, Alin Tan wrote: TaS Completely off topic here but in light of the recent monitor discussion, I TaS too have a monitor problem. For some reason, and only at night time, the TaS display on my monitor does this funny flickering, wobbly thing. I can TaS continue to work on it but it kinda makes me motion sick. lol.
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
What Shel said. I only shoot one handed when walking the streets of an urban area. The cup of coffee I carry in the other hand is part of the fun, and it provides a bit of cover for the photographer. The first thing a potential subject sees is someone drinking coffee. Then the coffee comes down, the camera goes up, and I pull the trigger. For serious shooting, I use a firm two-handed grip, and, quite frequently, a tripod. Paul On Mar 8, 2005, at 12:38 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Rob ... It's a matter of what you get used to, and, of course, the style of photography that one does. I learned to make photographs in San Francisco, catching snippets of life on Market Street, the Mission District, and other fast-paced and sometimes crowded urban areas. Using a pre-set spottie, a wrist strap, and hoping for some quick reflexes, one handed shooting became a simple and reasonably successful way of making photographs. It was hard to do with a tele or long focus lens, though LOL http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/cell-guy.html Shel [Original Message] From: Rob Studdert So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).
Re: Portable Storage Devices (and Viewers)
On 8/3/05, Frantisek, discombobulated, unleashed: Excellent comparison of the devices can be found here: http://fhoude34.free.fr/PortableHD.htm Good set of data, pity the guy can't design a web page! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: *ist-D discovery??
So it does, PJ. I may be a little stupid, but I fail to see how this can be useful? The shutter speed can be changed by using the shutter speed wheel anyway! My *ist D doesn't show any apertuere value indication in the display, when turning the aperture ring. However, annother feature might be quite useful: After pressing the green button (using M og K lens), stop down aperture with index finger wheel (beside the srelease button). If I turn the aperture ring on the lens, while still holding down the stop down wheel, the bar graph in the viewfinder will indicate the relative deviation from the just determined Exposure Value. Regards Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 7. marts 2005 17:50 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: *ist-D discovery?? I haven't been able to find this documented anywhere and I don't remember reading this on the list so maybe I'm the first here to figure this out. * Put an M or K class lens on your *ist-D * Set the mode selector to M * Switch on the camera. * Stop down the aperture (The meter stays on). * Adjust the Aperture ring (No surprise the exposure indicator displays the change). * Adjust the Aperture Wheel... (The shutter speed changes!) It would be a PITA to use full stop down metering mode if you had to change the shutter speed with the front hand grip wheel, Pentax cleverly changed the function of the rear wheel to modify shutter speed in this mode! It makes stop down metering almost a joy to use. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
what is beside or through the wall that your turn on at night? turn it off and see. Herb... - Original Message - From: Tan and Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:19 AM Subject: I have a wobbly monitor! Completely off topic here but in light of the recent monitor discussion, I too have a monitor problem. For some reason, and only at night time, the display on my monitor does this funny flickering, wobbly thing. I can continue to work on it but it kinda makes me motion sick. lol. Anyways, it never gets turned off, but ONLY does it at night, which I think is a very strange phenomena, I mean how can a CRT monitor tell the time?!
Re: Shift lens
On 7/3/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed: I just noticed a 28mm Pentax shift lens on eBay. I've always wondered about this lens (but not enough to shell out the cash). It seems that nowadays, in the digital age, a shift lens *may* be one of those things that has become obsolete. Are they still getting use like they did back in the day? Just curious... (the auction is listed at Please don't mention active eBay auctions unless it's your own - there may be folks watching this. Further info: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Thanks Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
Alin Flaider wrote: Some sleepless wireless surfer in the neighborhood? ;o) Now seriously, you should look for any microwave generating appliance in the proximity of your place. Try change your monitor position, see if anything changes. Might be just a cell/wireless phone left nearby. Easier to move than the monitor :) Cheers Tomasz (new here)
OT: Enablement
I just won an auction for a Metz 60 CT-2! I alwasys wanted at real powerful flash. I intend to use it as the main light in my home made Metz-strobe outfit. The 60 CT-4 would have been able to do TTL with the *ist D (with the right adapteres), but the 60CT-4 (two flash tubes) is much more expensive. So I settled for the CT-2, which can be purchased for app. 150 USD. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 8. marts 2005 12:40 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: *ist-D discovery?? So it does, PJ. I may be a little stupid, but I fail to see how this can be useful? The shutter speed can be changed by using the shutter speed wheel anyway! My *ist D doesn't show any apertuere value indication in the display, when turning the aperture ring. However, annother feature might be quite useful: After pressing the green button (using M og K lens), stop down aperture with index finger wheel (beside the srelease button). If I turn the aperture ring on the lens, while still holding down the stop down wheel, the bar graph in the viewfinder will indicate the relative deviation from the just determined Exposure Value. Regards Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 7. marts 2005 17:50 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: *ist-D discovery?? I haven't been able to find this documented anywhere and I don't remember reading this on the list so maybe I'm the first here to figure this out. * Put an M or K class lens on your *ist-D * Set the mode selector to M * Switch on the camera. * Stop down the aperture (The meter stays on). * Adjust the Aperture ring (No surprise the exposure indicator displays the change). * Adjust the Aperture Wheel... (The shutter speed changes!) It would be a PITA to use full stop down metering mode if you had to change the shutter speed with the front hand grip wheel, Pentax cleverly changed the function of the rear wheel to modify shutter speed in this mode! It makes stop down metering almost a joy to use. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: Shift lens
I don't really know. I never used mine a lot, but it can actually be used for many different creative purposes. And it's a good wide angle. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 8. marts 2005 12:43 Til: pentax list Emne: Re: Shift lens On 7/3/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed: I just noticed a 28mm Pentax shift lens on eBay. I've always wondered about this lens (but not enough to shell out the cash). It seems that nowadays, in the digital age, a shift lens *may* be one of those things that has become obsolete. Are they still getting use like they did back in the day? Just curious... (the auction is listed at Please don't mention active eBay auctions unless it's your own - there may be folks watching this. Further info: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Thanks Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
LONDON PDML (provisional)
I'm jumping the gun here slightly because Stan Halpin hasn't got back to me yet after he told me about his London visit dates, but it's possible there will be a meeting in London during the weekend of the 7 / 8 May. So far Stan and I, venue/time TBA. Anyone else up for it? Bob? Steve? John? Cesar? ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
On 7/3/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I shoot one handed occasionally, depending upon what I'm trying to achieve. Certainly not critical framing or focus, but street shooting is often done from the hip... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW3/55.htm Goddo's on a roll here. Works nice for me. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ¨This is a two hands photo: http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1447396 and this is one hand (and no finder) photo: http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1472179 That second shot is really great, Dag! Sort of Theriaultean, but in color ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: Insider Tip - Photoshop CS 2
David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 8, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: The replacement for the 2200, the R1800, has already been announced. Hmm, I'd heard something about that. I see they've used a totally different ink set to the 2200. I'm glad that they at least included the matte black on the head instead of having to swap the cartridges, which throws the Mac driver into a real spin. Yep. As Marnie said, they haven't discontinued the 2200 (which naturally used a different ink set from the printer it replaced, the 2000) but Epson seems to let printers overlap rather than just drop one and introduce another. I'm really curious to see some prints made with the new ink set that includes red and blue ink. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
From: Tan and Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue AM 11:19:12 GMT To: Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: I have a wobbly monitor! Hey guys, Completely off topic here but in light of the recent monitor discussion, I too have a monitor problem. For some reason, and only at night time, the display on my monitor does this funny flickering, wobbly thing. I can continue to work on it but it kinda makes me motion sick. lol. Anyways, it never gets turned off, but ONLY does it at night, which I think is a very strange phenomena, I mean how can a CRT monitor tell the time?! I'm really wondering if it is time to take the plunge into the world of LCD screens, but even through the discussion you guys have been having, I am still seeing the benefits of staying old school. Suggestions gratefully accepted... I noticed mine doing this whilst I was brushing my teeth with an electric toothbrush. waht else are you doing while you look at your monitor? mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
On 8/3/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option). Never. Well, I lie - I tried it once just to see what it felt like, with the Leica CL. Didn't work for me. My left hand acts as a shock absorber on small cameras like the CL. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: URRRPPPP....
On 7/3/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Looks like a bunch of Twilight Zone messages just hit the old PDML Server. Are these the lost souls? What, they get accidentally routed via Canada? HAR Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: What do you call those devices ...
On 7/3/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Don't worry. The PDML is fully equipped with cheap legal brains. Some of us have read at least one book by John Grisham, and I've seen 12 Angry Men, so your defence is assured. ROTFL. Thanks mate, brightened my day. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: Insider Tip - Photoshop CS 2
My Mac has no problem with cartridge swaps. It's a simple mattter. Quite PhotoShop if it's running. Open the printer utility, trash the old printer selection. Install the cartridge. Choose add in the printer utility and reselect the printer. When you reopen photoshop, the driver will recognize the new ink. Perhaps it's a problem with other software, by with OSX 10.3.x and PSCS, the ink swap routine is painless. Paul On Mar 8, 2005, at 1:43 AM, David Mann wrote: On Mar 8, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: The replacement for the 2200, the R1800, has already been announced. Hmm, I'd heard something about that. I see they've used a totally different ink set to the 2200. I'm glad that they at least included the matte black on the head instead of having to swap the cartridges, which throws the Mac driver into a real spin. Also I'll eagerly await the new Photoshop. I wonder what new features it'll have. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: LONDON PDML (provisional)
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm jumping the gun here slightly because Stan Halpin hasn't got back to me yet after he told me about his London visit dates, but it's possible there will be a meeting in London during the weekend of the 7 / 8 May. So far Stan and I, venue/time TBA. Anyone else up for it? Bob? Steve? John? Cesar? ;-) Lisa and I will be arriving in London on 7 or 8 May. I'll see what we can work out. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)
So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option). Never. Well, I lie - I tried it once just to see what it felt like, with the Leica CL. Didn't work for me. My left hand acts as a shock absorber on small cameras like the CL. Actually I lied big time. This whole page is full of stuff taken with one hand: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/hip.html Okay, point of clarification: with eye at the viewfinder - two hands always with no eye at the v/f - one hand or no hands * * yes, you guessed it. My latest enablement is a wireless shutter release. I plan to shoulder the camera, possibly on an acquaintance, and fire remotely. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESOs - Two More from NorCal Meet
HAR! I love fat watch. Nicely composed and well seen. Paul On Mar 8, 2005, at 3:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working on photos all day since I recovered them. Then I started wondering how to share them. I can't compete with the great shots that John has already shared, and Godfrey's two, and more great shots to come from Bruce and Shel and others, I am sure. So I decided to dribble out about six photos as PESOs, probably in twos. Then I'll direct you later to a GESO with about ten others that you haven't seen. Not that you are waiting with bated breath, but you might find it interesting to see what each of us noticed, shooting in the same area, that the others didn't. Or did, as the case may be. I really have no decent shots of PDMLers, it seemed others were doing that, and the few I got turned out poorly. Besides I want CREDIT for some PESOs! ;-) (Since I haven't done that many.) So here are two PESOs from the recent NorCal PDML meet, probably my favorites: Fern Gradient -- Japanese Gardens http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/ferns.htm Fat Watch -- History Park http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/watch.htm These are slightly smaller with a slightly lower resolution than I normally do, because I was/am planning on posting a group of shots from the outing. Comments welcome, of course. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
It could be magnetic interference. Do you have speakers located near the monitor? Paul On Mar 8, 2005, at 6:19 AM, Tan and Steve wrote: Hey guys, Completely off topic here but in light of the recent monitor discussion, I too have a monitor problem. For some reason, and only at night time, the display on my monitor does this funny flickering, wobbly thing. I can continue to work on it but it kinda makes me motion sick. lol. Anyways, it never gets turned off, but ONLY does it at night, which I think is a very strange phenomena, I mean how can a CRT monitor tell the time?! I'm really wondering if it is time to take the plunge into the world of LCD screens, but even through the discussion you guys have been having, I am still seeing the benefits of staying old school. Suggestions gratefully accepted... :) Tan. Tanya Mayer Photography Brisbane, Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549 Mobile +61 0437831247
Re: OT: Insider Tip - Photoshop CS 2
On 8/3/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: My Mac has no problem with cartridge swaps. It's a simple mattter. Quite PhotoShop if it's running. Open the printer utility, trash the old printer selection. Install the cartridge. Choose add in the printer utility and reselect the printer. When you reopen photoshop, the driver will recognize the new ink. Perhaps it's a problem with other software, by with OSX 10.3.x and PSCS, the ink swap routine is painless. What a kafuffle. FWIW, on my S9000, I simply open the cover of the printer (with PS running), the head parks in the centre, swap the dead tank, close lid, a few seconds later, the S9000 utility updates the ink level info to show full again on that tank, carry on Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: LONDON PDML (provisional)
On 8/3/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Lisa and I will be arriving in London on 7 or 8 May. I'll see what we can work out. Crikey, I'd forgotten about that! Stan's leaving on the 10th, but if your schedule prohibits the weekend of the 7/8, we'll do a workaround somehow. Arrive on the 7th and we can meet on the 8th :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
On 8/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I noticed mine doing this whilst I was brushing my teeth with an electric toothbrush. waht else are you doing while you look at your monitor? Yeah Mike, how do you manage to keep all the spit and slobber off the keyboard ? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
FT
I have a very good K-S/M adapter that I'll trade for a roll or two of Fuji Acros. Any takers? Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Caveat: This information should be viewed critically. It may merit as much technical excellence as a CBS news report. Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: LX Repair Update, March 7, 2005
Hi Frank, That was my guess too. The shutter contacts get dirty, mine had that problem too. Steve - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: LX Repair Update, March 7, 2005 Well, I actually got it to the repair shop today (last week was a busy one at work). You may recall that my Black Beauty won't trip the flash. Russ said that it's likely a set of contacts in the shutter mechanism that trigger the flash that wear out commonly (after 20 years or so g). Or, sometimes they don't wear out, but just go out of adjustment or something. He didn't sound too concerned, but I'll get an estimate in a week or so. That's good news (they won't usually do an estimate if it's unrepairable). I mentioned that the thin weather-stripping around the prism cover (that I removed to see if all the contacts/solder joints looked okay) needed to be replaced. He seemed more concerned that such thin stripping may be hard to find - if that's their biggest problem, then I'm happy. Further reports as new developments arise... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Shift lens
- Original Message - From: David Oswald Subject: Shift lens I just noticed a 28mm Pentax shift lens on eBay. I've always wondered about this lens (but not enough to shell out the cash). It seems that nowadays, in the digital age, a shift lens *may* be one of those things that has become obsolete. Are they still getting use like they did back in the day? I suspect they aren't wide enough anymore to do much of what they were intended for. Perspective correction in Photoshop works, but isn't necessarily the ideal solution. William Robb
Re: JOBO reply
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: JOBO reply On 8/3/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: AFAIK there is no US Federal laws about that. In each state it varies. Everyone except a few mega-retailers (Wal-Mart, Home Depot, etc.) tries to pass the buck. Ultimately whoever's name is on the written warranty is responsible. No written warranty? Then you are dependant upon the seller's generosity. That is truly an appalling state of affairs - for a consumer driven society it is inexcusable. They don't have a consumer driven society. They have a society for and about litigation. William Robb
Re: Enablement
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: OT: Enablement I just won an auction for a Metz 60 CT-2! I alwasys wanted at real powerful flash. I intend to use it as the main light in my home made Metz-strobe outfit. The 60 CT-4 would have been able to do TTL with the *ist D (with the right adapteres), but the 60CT-4 (two flash tubes) is much more expensive. So I settled for the CT-2, which can be purchased for app. 150 USD. In theory, the CT-2 will do TTL flash with the istD as well. In practice, the istD is pretty much useless at TTL flash. William Robb
Oh Poop
I knew this would happen. I lost my eye cup for the istD. Now to find out if Pentax will sell me a replacement or i have to go to a store to order. Dave
RE: eBay Scamming - a good read
ebay makes money on COMMERCE. If they screw buyers or sellers that is going to hurt them. I don't agree that that they favor either, what they need is both to be happy. JCO -Original Message- From: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 5:30 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: eBay Scamming - a good read Who pays them money. Not the buyers that is certain. You can almost always figure out who has the clout just by watching the flow of the dollars. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Joseph Tainter wrote: Message: eBay looks out for sellers, not buyers. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.3 - Release Date: 3/7/2005
RE: PESOs - Two More from NorCal Meet
What bullshit, Marnie. There's no need for you to apologize for your photographs. Some may not be as great as the photos of other people, but that's a real subjective call. Please remember and think about the conversation we had while riding down to the meeting, (including the comments YOU made) and other similar conversations. It just pisses me off that you're apologizing for your work. Your work is your own, your vision is your own there is no need or reason to compare it to that of anyone else. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been working on photos all day since I recovered them. Then I started wondering how to share them. I can't compete with the great shots that John has already shared, and Godfrey's two, and more great shots to come from Bruce and Shel and others, I am sure. So I decided to dribble out about six photos as PESOs, probably in twos. Then I'll direct you later to a GESO with about ten others that you haven't seen. Not that you are waiting with bated breath, but you might find it interesting to see what each of us noticed, shooting in the same area, that the others didn't. Or did, as the case may be. I really have no decent shots of PDMLers, it seemed others were doing that, and the few I got turned out poorly. Besides I want CREDIT for some PESOs! ;-) (Since I haven't done that many.) So here are two PESOs from the recent NorCal PDML meet, probably my favorites: Fern Gradient -- Japanese Gardens http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/ferns.htm Fat Watch -- History Park http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/watch.htm These are slightly smaller with a slightly lower resolution than I normally do, because I was/am planning on posting a group of shots from the outing. Comments welcome, of course. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML
Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:10:50 -0500, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh no, Frank and Cotty are MPs now? ERNR Damn, I didn't notice that, the Empire is done for... Nah, I was just pretending to be an appellate judge. I guess it wasn't a very good impression... Admitting up-front that you would know more about this than I do: what made me think MP was my friend *from Oxford* (the inclusion of the constituency). I think if you'd said learned friend I would've thought judge. This is just my impression from way back I could easily be wrong. I've been living in the States a long time now, and certainly was no expert on these matters even before I moved here. Um, Peter, the Empire is long since history but perhaps it's time to worry about the Commonwealth ... ERNR
Re: LONDON PDML (provisional)
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue AM 11:46:39 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: LONDON PDML (provisional) I'm jumping the gun here slightly because Stan Halpin hasn't got back to me yet after he told me about his London visit dates, but it's possible there will be a meeting in London during the weekend of the 7 / 8 May. So far Stan and I, venue/time TBA. Anyone else up for it? Bob? Steve? John? Cesar? ;-) I'm a provisional in. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 12:07:46 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I have a wobbly monitor! On 8/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I noticed mine doing this whilst I was brushing my teeth with an electric toothbrush. waht else are you doing while you look at your monitor? Yeah Mike, how do you manage to keep all the spit and slobber off the keyboard ? I don't let Cath use it. (no grin, duck and run like hell) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 01:29:05 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:10:50 -0500, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh no, Frank and Cotty are MPs now? ERNR Damn, I didn't notice that, the Empire is done for... Nah, I was just pretending to be an appellate judge. I guess it wasn't a very good impression... Admitting up-front that you would know more about this than I do: what made me think MP was my friend *from Oxford* (the inclusion of the constituency). pedant That would be my _honourable_ friend for him to be addressed properly as an MP. My right honourable in some cases. /pedant - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: LONDON PDML (provisional)
On 8/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I'm a provisional in. Right that's one bloomin great Geordie, any more ?? :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
From: Tomasz Machnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue AM 11:47:42 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I have a wobbly monitor! Alin Flaider wrote: Some sleepless wireless surfer in the neighborhood? ;o) Now seriously, you should look for any microwave generating appliance in the proximity of your place. Try change your monitor position, see if anything changes. Might be just a cell/wireless phone left nearby. Easier to move than the monitor :) Cheers Tomasz (new here) Witaj, Tomasz. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: JOBO reply
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I felt I was being nice asking them why it was called JOBO everywhere and I felt their reply was informative. Just a tinge a little too threatening. I have since told them I have unbadmouthed them and now I have two new emails from them gushing praise toward me. Go figure. Thay sound like a really good company to me. Defend themselves when neccessary but also happy to acknowledge praise and not just accept it as some sort of birthright. only semi-humerous suggestion You should offer your services as a tester. /only semi-humerous suggestion mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML
On 8/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Admitting up-front that you would know more about this than I do: what made me think MP was my friend *from Oxford* (the inclusion of the constituency). I thought she was talking about beer ;-)) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Re: PESO - repeat performance
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue AM 04:08:30 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - repeat performance On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:28:46 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Literally. I took some advice and here it is. If you feel generous, maybe you could vote. 8-) If it allows you - not sure if voting rights are limited to fotocommunity.com members 8-( http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/4451/display/2717727 Many thanks, mike Could I see the first one? I think I may like it better, but I don't want to say anything more until I can compare them side by side... http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/529253/display/2639601 The resize is just that - I haven't rescanned it, as my present monitor is a loaner whilst my own is being band-aided at the hospital. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: PESO - repeat performance
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue AM 04:08:30 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - repeat performance On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:28:46 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Literally. I took some advice and here it is. If you feel generous, maybe you could vote. 8-) If it allows you - not sure if voting rights are limited to fotocommunity.com members 8-( http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/4451/display/2717727 Many thanks, mike Could I see the first one? I think I may like it better, but I don't want to say anything more until I can compare them side by side... BTW, do you get a voting button when you access the new image? m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: SMCP-FA versus Takumar-F? Surprise!
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:03:50 +, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 28-** lenses seem to have gradually declined in quality since the 28-105 FA power zoom and it shows in MTF scores, build quality and other areas. The old power zoom had good contrast and sharpnes, reasonable build quality, rapid and precise AF, very little flare, no zoom creep, good close focus 1:3 it even retracts to it's minimum length when powered off :) They're still listed new in the UK at around £300! What would you recommend from the current catalog for a normal zoom? Of course, the 28-70/2.8 looks nice, but my wallet says otherwise. Any thoughts on the 28-105/4-5.6 IF or the 24-90/3.5-4.5 AL? -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
IQuoting Tan and Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey guys, Completely off topic here but in light of the recent monitor discussion, I too have a monitor problem. For some reason, and only at night time, the display on my monitor does this funny flickering, wobbly thing. I can continue to work on it but it kinda makes me motion sick. lol. Anyways, it never gets turned off, but ONLY does it at night, which I think is a very strange phenomena, I mean how can a CRT monitor tell the time?! I'm really wondering if it is time to take the plunge into the world of LCD screens, but even through the discussion you guys have been having, I am still seeing the benefits of staying old school. Suggestions gratefully accepted... :) I'm probably going to regret commenting here, since I'm not a scientific expert on monitors and the listmembers who are will probably make me feel stupid pretty soon, but ... First suggestion is that maybe the darn thing does flicker all the time but you only notice it at night. Secondly, I recently noticed that the monitor on my better-half's computer was flickering obnoxiously. (Although he was using it a lot, he had not noticed this himself. He was however getting lots of headaches. I suspect a connection.) So anyway we went shopping for monitors and ended up buying a nice new 19 LCD. With my only previous experience of LCD monitors being my otherwise wonderful notebook, whose screen's apparent contrast and colour balance changes drastically with a slight shift in the angle from which I view it, I was awfully sceptical of LCDs. I was amazed to discover that the monitors available in the stores didn't have this problem to anything like the degree that the one in my notebook does, and in fact I can't see ANY sign of that effect in the one I eventually recommended that he buy. We haven't done any serious photo editing on the new monitor (Samsung Syncmaster 912n, in case you care) so we've no reason to enter into issues of critical calibration. Admittedly just talking about eyeball comparison, nothing with scientific instruments, the picture quality looks fantastic to me. If I were going to replace my monitor, I would certainly start with this one and check closely into whether there was a valid reason NOT to buy it. ERNR
Power zoom lenses
Howdy! I'm noticing that Pentax states power zoom functions are not available on the *ist film camera (which I have) and the *istD. The ZX-60 and the *istDS literature makes no mention of this. Anybody know if these lenses work with the latter two cameras? -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 01:29:05 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:10:50 -0500, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh no, Frank and Cotty are MPs now? ERNR Damn, I didn't notice that, the Empire is done for... Nah, I was just pretending to be an appellate judge. I guess it wasn't a very good impression... Admitting up-front that you would know more about this than I do: what made me think MP was my friend *from Oxford* (the inclusion of the constituency). pedant That would be my _honourable_ friend for him to be addressed properly as an MP. My right honourable in some cases. /pedant So 'tis. I guess Cotty and Frank are just friends after all. :-) ERNR
Re: PESO - images from NorCal PDML
Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Admitting up-front that you would know more about this than I do: what made me think MP was my friend *from Oxford* (the inclusion of the constituency). I thought she was talking about beer ;-)) I never talk about beer on this list. I occasionally talk about the fact that other people talk about beer a LOT ... Oh wait, you meant my first half-sentence. Yeah, that makes sense. ERNR
New Sigma EF-500 Flash, comments?
Now that those of you that bought one of the new P-TTL Sigma flashes have had some time to play with them what do you think? Would you recommend one or should I go after a second 360FGZ? I would like the two to be able to work together wirelessly with the ist-D, any experience here? TIA Don
Re: SMCP-FA versus Takumar-F? Surprise!
What would you recommend from the current catalog for a normal zoom? Of course, the 28-70/2.8 looks nice, but my wallet says otherwise. Any thoughts on the 28-105/4-5.6 IF or the 24-90/3.5-4.5 AL? If the 28-70/2.8 is out of the equation I think the 24-90 is probably the best of current offerings, or a third party alternative - Tamron, Sigma, Tokina ATX. John
Re: Power zoom lenses
Scott Loveless wrote on 08.03.05 15:07: Howdy! I'm noticing that Pentax states power zoom functions are not available on the *ist film camera (which I have) and the *istD. The ZX-60 and the *istDS literature makes no mention of this. Anybody know if these lenses work with the latter two cameras? Yes they work. But power zoom function doesn't :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Re: LONDON PDML (provisional)
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 01:46:50 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: LONDON PDML (provisional) On 8/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I'm a provisional in. Right that's one bloomin great Geordie, any more ?? :-) As long as you don't expect me to translate - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: changed subscription address
Thanks, I will. I'm new to the pentax world. A rank amateur. -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:17 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: changed subscription address On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:56:07 -0500, Jon Paul Schelter (R* Toronto) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gmail has (free) pop3 access, and you can use your current smtp server to send. What? In Toronto, you say? You've got to come out for the next TOPDML meeting (whenever the hell that's going to be g). Don't recall seeing you on list before, so welcome aboard! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: To Cotty : Pentax sighting
None of the replies to my thread have made it to my computer,however i found them in the archives. Cotty, no not yet.. My problem now is do i get the Mini Mac, or one of the Mac books i have looked at on the Bestbuy site (they have several low and mid range ones) or a PSD(Personal storage like the Flashtrax) I'm thinking maybe the Mac book might be the best then i can have field storage,potential customers can have a boo at the pictures and i can use it for PS and internet if need be. See how complicated i make things.vbg Dave Re: Pentax sighting Cotty Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:44:32 -0800 On 7/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Spent the better part of Sunday getting rid of the W32 dot sasser dot worm from my home computer. Hey Dave so youve not got that mac mini yet ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO Looking after Mary and Frederik
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:32:20 +1000, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quick PESO from me shot Monday in the forecourt of the Sydney Opera House: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP1742.jpg (~330kB) Very nice. Tech: *ist D (in two hands) 77mm LTD LOL -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: What do you call those devices ...
In a message dated 3/7/2005 3:10:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't worry. The PDML is fully equipped with cheap legal brains. Some of us have read at least one book by John Grisham, and I've seen 12 Angry Men, so your defence is assured. Publish, and be damned! -- Cheers, Bob Hehehehe. I could also call on frank, I suppose. Hehehe. Marnie aka Doe Now that would probably be a tragic mistake. (And he'd probably tell you so himself, but I just couldn't help it). -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: I have a wobbly monitor!
Tan, The other possibility is that you have an appliance that is making the line voltage unstable. Is there a fridge, washer, dishwasher or air conditioner that's running more in the evening? --- Tan and Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Completely off topic here but in light of the recent monitor discussion, I too have a monitor problem. For some reason, and only at night time, the display on my monitor does this funny flickering, wobbly thing. I can continue to work on it but it kinda makes me motion sick. lol. Anyways, it never gets turned off, but ONLY does it at night, which I think is a very strange phenomena, I mean how can a CRT monitor tell the time?! I'm really wondering if it is time to take the plunge into the world of LCD screens, but even through the discussion you guys have been having, I am still seeing the benefits of staying old school. Suggestions gratefully accepted... :) Tan. Tanya Mayer Photography Brisbane, Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549 Mobile +61 0437831247 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Power zoom lenses
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:29:32 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they work. But power zoom function doesn't :-) Not the answer I was looking for, but an answer nonetheless. g Thanks! -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: Enablement
In practice, the istD is pretty much useless at TTL flash. William Robb My *istD works great at iso 400 with both the Sigma 500 Super and the Pentax AT400 flash. Probably a bit better with the Sigma, where it's almost flawless.
Re: Special Interview with PENTAX @PMA
Herb wrote: one to two years from now, the niche will be filled except for people trying to recycle their old 645 gear. in two years, we will see 20 megapixel or more 35mm full frame format sensors. REPLY: There is no limit for image quality. It never was for film and it certainly won't be for digital. Theres less hassle involved by going larger in digital than it is for film. Still, some use large format in spite of the tremendous hassle factor involved. A medium format based DSLR will be similar in all important respect to a 35mm based DSLR. It can be made significantly smaller than a film 645 camera which means it could be smaller than pro DSLR from Nikon and Canon. Considering that it will be ideal for outdoor/landscape shooters, as Pentax plans to make a dslr that is not dependent on a power outlet, or anyone else wanting cutting edge quality, such a camera makes a lot of sense. It will in addition enable Pentax to compete in the high-end sector and be able to outperform the others as Nikon and Canon so far are restricted to the smaller 35mm format and the likes of Sony/matsushita are unlikely to make MF sized optic systems. The other MF manufacturers are highly unlikely to able to compete as they are all essentialy very small operations if not downright out of business. It your DSLR makes it possible to make poster sized prints from all your images somebody (quite a lot I think) will want one if the price is right. Pål
Re: Power zoom lenses
AFAIK, the power zoom functions were only available on the PZ series bodies. I found them to be basically useful only as a gimmick even when I had a PZ-1p. Bill - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Power zoom lenses On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:29:32 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they work. But power zoom function doesn't :-) Not the answer I was looking for, but an answer nonetheless. g Thanks! -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: Portable Storage Devices (and Viewers)
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:39:13 +0100, Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I would like to see in such an unit would be: 1) shock-mounted innards. Electronics AND hdd. Have you seen the prices on the shock proof laptops? This is certainly feasible, but the prosumer crowd with their Digital Rebels ain't gonna pay for it. 2) in the best models, dustproof and spilllproof Also expensive. Or at least the manufacturer will want you to think it is. 3) easy and reliable verification of transfers This should be standard issue, regardless of the price point. 4) running on interchangeable batteries (rechargeable (secondary) AAs seem to be the best, as you can get longlasting primary Lithiums when you can't recharge the NiMHs, _with_ voltage regulation (so for 5V HDDs, running from 5-6AA cells _with_ regulated voltage down to stable 5V. The Compactdrive is unregulated, sadly. Is that asking too much ;-) ? Not if you're willing to pay for it. -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
Re: Re: Power zoom lenses
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 02:56:15 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Power zoom lenses On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:29:32 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they work. But power zoom function doesn't :-) Not the answer I was looking for, but an answer nonetheless. g Thanks! As a guide, if the function is present in all parts of the system that require it, then it will function. E.g. if the body and lens can AF, then there will be AF. If one of them can't then it won't. If the body and flash can TTL, then the system will TTL. If one of them doesn't, it won't. And so on mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Enablement
Never having used a flash, forgive my ignorance. What makes the Sigma a better choice than the Pentax? Almost flawless? Are there things about flash that are problematical? Why is the istD pretty much useless at TTL flash? Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In practice, the istD is pretty much useless at TTL flash. William Robb My *istD works great at iso 400 with both the Sigma 500 Super and the Pentax AT400 flash. Probably a bit better with the Sigma, where it's almost flawless.
Re: New Sigma EF-500 Flash, comments?
I don't know how well it will work with the 360FGZ, but it performs beautifully with the *istD. I've tested it at high-speed synch, TTL, TTL-P, and trailing curtain synch, and it's been great. I also used it in slave mode as a background light with my studio flashes on that shot of my daughter that I showed the other day. It fired consistently, when I gave it enough time to recycle. Paul Now that those of you that bought one of the new P-TTL Sigma flashes have had some time to play with them what do you think? Would you recommend one or should I go after a second 360FGZ? I would like the two to be able to work together wirelessly with the ist-D, any experience here? TIA Don
Re: Power zoom lenses
Scott, You can tell whether or not a body supports power zooming by looking at the lens mount (or a picture of the lens mount). Bodies supporting power zooming have two copper contacts inside the mount ring at about 5 o'clock. You can see them in the photos of a PZ-1p on eBay here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=15240item=3878929492rd=1ssPageName=WDVW Rick --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:29:32 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes they work. But power zoom function doesn't :-) Not the answer I was looking for, but an answer nonetheless. g Thanks! -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re: PESO - repeat performance
I don't. I think you may have to log in. I really liked this the first time around. It's still really cool. Every time I look at it I can't help but think it should be on the cover of some rock album. Dave S On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 9:49:39 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/08 Tue AM 04:08:30 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - repeat performance On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:28:46 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Literally. I took some advice and here it is. If you feel generous, maybe you could vote. 8-) If it allows you - not sure if voting rights are limited to fotocommunity.com members 8-( http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/4451/display/2717727 Many thanks, mike Could I see the first one? I think I may like it better, but I don't want to say anything more until I can compare them side by side... BTW, do you get a voting button when you access the new image? m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESOs - Two More from NorCal Meet
Marnie, these are both very good shots. I especially like watch, a different perspective than normal. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working on photos all day since I recovered them. Then I started wondering how to share them. I can't compete with the great shots that John has already shared, and Godfrey's two, and more great shots to come from Bruce and Shel and others, I am sure. So I decided to dribble out about six photos as PESOs, probably in twos. Then I'll direct you later to a GESO with about ten others that you haven't seen. Not that you are waiting with bated breath, but you might find it interesting to see what each of us noticed, shooting in the same area, that the others didn't. Or did, as the case may be. I really have no decent shots of PDMLers, it seemed others were doing that, and the few I got turned out poorly. Besides I want CREDIT for some PESOs! ;-) (Since I haven't done that many.) So here are two PESOs from the recent NorCal PDML meet, probably my favorites: Fern Gradient -- Japanese Gardens http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/ferns.htm Fat Watch -- History Park http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/watch.htm These are slightly smaller with a slightly lower resolution than I normally do, because I was/am planning on posting a group of shots from the outing. Comments welcome, of course. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Re: Power zoom lenses
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:05:03 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a guide, if the function is present in all parts of the system that require it, then it will function. E.g. if the body and lens can AF, then there will be AF. If one of them can't then it won't. If the body and flash can TTL, then the system will TTL. If one of them doesn't, it won't. And so on I don't think I worded my question properly. I was wondering if the power zoom function would work with the ZX-60 or the *istDS. The description of the lens at BH stated power zoom was a function of the ZX series cameras (this is most likely a typo on their part). The Pentax literature specifically stated that there is no power zoom function with the *ist or the *istD. They conveniently left that part out in their description of the ZX-60 and the *istDS. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the reply. On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:05:42 -0500, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, the power zoom functions were only available on the PZ series bodies. The FA manual suggests that this functionality will work with the MZ-S. Page 18. The MZ-S manual indicates the same thing. Page 28 I found them to be basically useful only as a gimmick even when I had a PZ-1p. I wholeheartedly agree. However, what good is being enabled with a power zoom lens if you don't have a power zoom camera? vbg -- Scott Loveless Born free. Taxed to death.
