Re: istDS v istDS2
Shel Belinkoff a écrit : Have you noticed any differences between the DS and the DS2 in terms of speed or function? Is the larger screen on the back a substantial improvement? A sad thing about this larger screen is that they only changed its size, not its resolution. That is, the screen produces exactly the same image, just bigger... Of course, the bigger the better, as it did not impact the body size, but I don't think the improvement is so dramatic. AFAIK, apart from this bigger screen, the only hardware difference with the DS, that could not be reflected in the firmware upgrade 2.00, is the retractable autofocus coupling, for manual AF retouching. IMHO, this one is a much more useful improvement (although I haven't seen this one working). Regarding speed differences, I do not work for Pentax, but I do embedded software development for a living, and I'm pretty confident that DS (especially 2.00), DL and DS2 firmwares are just 3 different compilations of the same source code, with some modules added, removed, or configured differently to cope with slight hardware differences between the bodies. The only speed improvement would be if they migrated to a (compatible) faster computing system in the DS2, but that's something embedded systems designers only do if the sales put a gun on their heads, that is, if there's a direct impact for the customer that can be advertised. And there is none here: all speed specifications (as advertised) are unchanged from the DS. Memory increase could also improve some image processing algorithms, but the amount of internal memory also seems to be unchanged (8 JPEG, 5 RAW image buffer). No wonder Pentax waited for the official retirement of the *ist DS to release the firmware update 2.00 (which was probably more or less ready from the day the DS2 was out, if my assumptions are right about the relation between the DS, DL and DS2 firmwares). (Just my 2 cents) Patrice
Re: Amature
Hi Sunny, Nice and beatiful photography. Thanks for sharing. Ronald Sunny Chung wrote: Hey everyone thank you for all your quick and extremely informative responses. Just wanted to introduce myself a little more I've only just began to work with DSLR's and I'm a poor college student :-(. So after all your advice, I definately want the 50/1.4 FA lens... but don't have $200 to spend right now. The only lens I have right now is the kit lens that came with my ist DL, which isn't bad. Once again, thank you for all your responses. If you care to look at my amature photography, I've posted my best pictures so far at: http://dapjang.deviantart.com/gallery/
RE: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels
David Mann wrote: > I think it's very well balanced as they do spend a lot of > time reviewing more realistic stuff. A small fraction of what the programme many years ago set out to do; then it was about cars the average motorist was likely to buy and a few commercial vehicle & motorcycle tests thrown in as well. Since those days it's fair to note that most of the cheaper cars today are badge engineering on the same platform, with far fewer independent companies. Modern cars are also likely to do the job for the first few years of life and be much the same. So not great television. Top Gear now is a glossy supercar magazine in a weekly format and it's entertaining viewing, gets big audiences and the type of cars shown makes the programme marketable abroad - always a consideration. > Having said that I do enjoy watching the expensive cars > because they tend to be real works of art in addition to the > technical achievement. I enjoy seeing them out of curiosity. I could also buy some fantastic cars for a fraction of the price of those shown. Malcolm Back to camera matters and off to the school Christmas concerts with the *ist D.
Re: Grand Canyon
On 13/12/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: >Probably old news to some of you. I just heard of it. No not the Grand >Canyon itself. > >http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0826_050826_grandcanyon.html Excellent! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
Tom C wrote: the old Vuescan I have. It's been probably 6 months since I've made a scan but if I remember correctly the new Minolta software includes some of the mutipass scan abilities now. I still haven't used the new Vuescan yes, up to 16x. I've tried Vuescan once and I did like its ablility to "reuse" scanned raw file - it's pretty clever approach IMO. Also workflow seemed to be improved over Minolta software, however I would say the quality of the scans was about same. Bedo.
Re: istDS v istDS2
On 12/14/05, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AFAIK, apart from this bigger screen, the only hardware difference with > the DS, that could not be reflected in the firmware upgrade 2.00, is the > retractable autofocus coupling, for manual AF retouching. IMHO, this one > is a much more useful improvement (although I haven't seen this one > working). > (Just my 2 cents) > > Patrice > > Retractable autofocus coupling? Could you give us more details? -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
David Mann wrote: The testing I've done with the driver for my Multi Pro indicates that most adjustments are best left for Photoshop. The only driver control I set these days is exposure, and I have to be extremely careful to avoid clipping the highlights. I also use 4x oversampling and dICE. The extra scanning time is worth it. IMHO if you scan to 16 bit there's no need to adjust anything (except focus), because you are getting everything the sensor is capable of anyway. Since I don't have any software with 16 bit processing capability yet, it's better for me to adjust some controls on scanner... Usually I set focus manually for each slide, then I turn on 16x multi pass scanning, and finally I adjust the dynamic range and the gray scale using the drivers controls. Bedo.
Re: need a favor
HJmm, I'm obviously not up to date with acroread. Thanks for the information. Cheers, Ronald John Francis wrote: The last couple of versions of Acrobat (6.0 & 7.0, I believe) have support for forms with areas that can be filled in by the user. It's also possible to re-save the form with those same areas filled in (if the original document creator desires). That's all just using the (free) Acrobat reader. The original form needs to be created using the full Acrobat product, of course, but the end user only needs the reader. On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 07:39:35AM +0100, Ronald Arvidsson wrote: Hi Ann, I I guess one needs Acrobat and not an acroba reader for putting stuff into a pdf file. Readers are just readers and in say acroread you can put text in text fields but text cannot be saved. For saving text one needs an acrobat editor like acrobat. The ordinary acroread wont do. The question is which wordprocessors/other programs can edit a pdf file? Cheers, Ronald Ann Sanfedele wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: Ann, I make a living coaching people in how to avoid viruses, malicious software, etc. And most of all how to keep things _simple_. I wouldn't recommend a piece of software, or a web site, unless I had used it myself and found it safe, reliable, functional and useful. Only then is it good enough for my customers. Or my friends. Been at it for 30+ years, no lawsuits yet. ;-) Give it a try, it's rather fun! Don Don , I have a willing person to do it for me - that is the best of all :) I'm neurotic about some of this stuff - I'm not judging your choice, most of you here are so much more savvy in many techy areas I'm in awe... you cant imagine the lack of savvy I have in these areas - and I have such a hard time retaining ANY info these days - it is just too daunting for me. (At this point I'm starting to feel guilty about sending my lurker friend the CD - :) ) My dream for the calendar - which I think doesnt exist - is to have it in a form so that someone can input their schedule into each box on the page without anything else moving around - somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind was the idea that one could do this with a PDF file... back to cooking dinner - friend about to arrive ann -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:40 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: need a favor Don Sanderson wrote: Hi Ann, I left this on the list because it may be of use to others. If you go to www.download.com and search for: "PDF Printer Driver" or "Convert to PDF" or "Print to PDF" you will find several small programs that install like a printer driver. You then simply print _any_ document to it and it turns it into a .PDF file. Some are free, and some are very cheap. Look at the rating on downloads.com, it tells you which ones people have found the most useful. I use one called "docuPrinter LT" from http://www.neevia.com/ it works very well for me and several of my customers. HTH Don I actually got an offer for a conversion and I'm taking him up on it. I'm a little leary of downloading stuff from the web and have a few serious techno gaps in my so-called brain. though the file is a document, it needs to be able to hold onto the right color space (I may be making this up though:) :) The only reason I have for putting it in PDF format is so that the document would be read only for people who wanted and were able to print out the calendar for themselves more cheaply and better than I can. ann
Re: Re: OT: Top Notc^H^H^H^HGear [Was: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others
> > From: David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/12/14 Wed AM 05:06:57 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT: Top Notc^H^H^H^HGear [Was: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and > others > > On Dec 13, 2005, at 11:26 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > > Almost any car programme will be successful. > > I beg to differ... I've seen some painfully boring motoring programmes. I've seen one. Which is why I said "almost". 8-) > > > TG is nothing but personalities [...] > > Which is the major reason why I watch it. That and the occasional > Aston Martin they review :) I do like the other two presenters. So, I suppose two out of three is a good reason to carry on. Even if I do spend too much time shouting at the screen - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Don Sanderson wrote: Hi Bill, the only reason the 40 is in the running is that I already have the K35/2, K35/3.5 and A35/2.8. I'll feel a little guilty buying another 35 with the 2 excellent K's on the shelf. I've heard so many good things about the FA35/2 though. I've never even _seen_ an A35/2! I do have an M40/2.8 but the rear element is seperating. I can see a way out of this Don. If you can take the pain of parting with a K-lens or two, that is. If I was using the 35 much, and esp. if I had a -D, I would probably have parted company with my excellent K35/3.5 and replaced it with the FA35/2. YMMV. Kostas
Re: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'd sell the older lenses and buy an FA35/2. It's a better lens in my opinion. Have you used the Ks? Or are you comparing with the 40 in the above? Kostas p.s.: I believe Tom was positively commenting on the straightness of your answer (which is also why I like reading your posts); don't get mad.
Re: Sigma XQ 200mm - strange soft-focus macro
Fred wrote: Does anyone know anything about this lens? Its a manual focus Sigma XQ 200mm/f3.5 on an interchangeable lens mount. The focusing mechanism is interesting. It has a quick focusing ring, and a second, fine focusing ring that gets it into the "macro" mode, although I think it is actually around about 1:2. The feel of the focusing is pleasant. Do you happen to have a photo of the lens, Derby? (Thanks.) Fred Hi Fred, This is the ebay listing... http://tinyurl.com/blnpt I have to say, I'm a bit intrigued with this lens. It is definitely krappy, but in a funny lomo sort of way. Might see what artyfarty uses it can be put to. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
Yes, that's an excellent shot. In al fairness, I must say that while the FA 35/2 is a superb lens, this shot and other tests suggest that the DA 40 is an excellent performer as well. I have yet to see a DA series lens that was any less than excellent. In truth, even the M40 is much better than its reputation would suggest. Paul On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Don Sanderson wrote: Patrick, your pic is what got me seriously interested in the DA40 in the first place. Beautiful shot. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Patrick Schork Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:59 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35??? I've got the DA 40 Limited and love its small size and image sharpness. http://istds.blogspot.com/2005/12/koi.html No experience with the 35/2 On 12/13/05, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I want to get a compact, "Normal" lens for the D. I'd like the 40/2.8 AND the 35/2 but can afford only one for my 'Christmas present to me'. What say ye, oh wise (and better photographers than me) PDML'ers? TIA Don
RE: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
2 years ago I decided to acquire the FA35/2. Both for its good reputationd and also preparing for digital. Now that I have recently acquired a Ds, I think that this was a good decision. I have been using the lens a lot for candid shots (mainly friend's kids) with available light and I find it more useful than the kit lens for this purpose. Funny enough, some time after the FA35 purchase, I sold my K35/3.5 to Kostas, and I am glad to hear that he finds it as good as I did. Regards, Jaume --- Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Don Sanderson wrote: > > > Hi Bill, the only reason the 40 is in the running > is that I > > already have the K35/2, K35/3.5 and A35/2.8. > > I'll feel a little guilty buying another 35 with > the 2 > > excellent K's on the shelf. I've heard so many > good things > > about the FA35/2 though. > > I've never even _seen_ an A35/2! > > > > I do have an M40/2.8 but the rear element is > seperating. > > I can see a way out of this Don. If you can take the > pain of parting > with a K-lens or two, that is. > > If I was using the 35 much, and esp. if I had a -D, > I would probably > have parted company with my excellent K35/3.5 and > replaced it with the > FA35/2. YMMV. > > Kostas > > __ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es
Re: Amature
Hi Sunny, Welcome to the Pentax forum. I enjoyed our portfolio. Some very good work. You have an excellent eye. Paul On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:07 AM, Sunny Chung wrote: Hey everyone thank you for all your quick and extremely informative responses. Just wanted to introduce myself a little more I've only just began to work with DSLR's and I'm a poor college student :-(. So after all your advice, I definately want the 50/1.4 FA lens... but don't have $200 to spend right now. The only lens I have right now is the kit lens that came with my ist DL, which isn't bad. Once again, thank you for all your responses. If you care to look at my amature photography, I've posted my best pictures so far at: http://dapjang.deviantart.com/gallery/
RE: Amature
Some beautiful work Sunny. You've proven once again that it's more the eye behind the lens than the lens itself that counts. Don > -Original Message- > From: Sunny Chung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:07 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Amature > > > Hey everyone thank you for all your quick and extremely informative > responses. Just wanted to introduce myself a little more > I've only just began to work with DSLR's and I'm a poor college > student :-(. So after all your advice, I definately want the 50/1.4 > FA lens... but don't have $200 to spend right now. The only lens I > have right now is the kit lens that came with my ist DL, which isn't > bad. Once again, thank you for all your responses. If you care to > look at my amature photography, > I've posted my best pictures so far at: > > http://dapjang.deviantart.com/gallery/ >
RE: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Funny enough, some time after the FA35 purchase, I sold my K35/3.5 to Kostas, and I am glad to hear that he finds it as good as I did. Pleasure, little treasure. Unlike your AF500FTZ, which is pleasure, giant treasure :-) Kostas p.s.: Still can't figure out why the UK rejected that parcel. Good thing my mate was around Barcelona at the time.
Couldn't resist.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7572750740 I now have 2 on the way, eventually I'll get another really good one. ;-) I've always wanted to buy something from this guy, he has some excellent deals if one can stand buying "sight unseen". Even with his 3053/99.9% rating that's hard for me to do. I suspect the "hair" is a string of glue inside, I saw that in my first one too. It was fairly easy to remove. Don
RE: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
I could probably part with the K35/2 but I think the K35/3.5 will be buried with me. ;-) "Little Gem" is an apt description. Don > -Original Message- > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:31 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35??? > > > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Don Sanderson wrote: > > > Hi Bill, the only reason the 40 is in the running is that I > > already have the K35/2, K35/3.5 and A35/2.8. > > I'll feel a little guilty buying another 35 with the 2 > > excellent K's on the shelf. I've heard so many good things > > about the FA35/2 though. > > I've never even _seen_ an A35/2! > > > > I do have an M40/2.8 but the rear element is seperating. > > I can see a way out of this Don. If you can take the pain of parting > with a K-lens or two, that is. > > If I was using the 35 much, and esp. if I had a -D, I would probably > have parted company with my excellent K35/3.5 and replaced it with the > FA35/2. YMMV. > > Kostas >
RE: Couldn't resist.
G'day Don. Mate, I've bought from him before and he is a top seller. I picked up a SMC-F 35-135 Af from him. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, Australia -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:31 PM To: PDML Subject: Couldn't resist. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7572750740 I now have 2 on the way, eventually I'll get another really good one. ;-) I've always wanted to buy something from this guy, he has some excellent deals if one can stand buying "sight unseen". Even with his 3053/99.9% rating that's hard for me to do. I suspect the "hair" is a string of glue inside, I saw that in my first one too. It was fairly easy to remove. Don -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
F35-135_was_Couldn't resist.
Thanks Trevor. What do you think of the 35-135? I've bid on a few but wouldn't go very high, there aren't many comments out there on this lens. > -Original Message- > From: Trevor Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:49 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Couldn't resist. > > > G'day Don. > Mate, I've bought from him before and he is a top seller. > > I picked up a SMC-F 35-135 Af from him. > > Hooroo. > Regards, Trevor > Grafton, Australia > > -Original Message- > From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:31 PM > To: PDML > Subject: Couldn't resist. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7572750740 > > I now have 2 on the way, eventually I'll get another really good one. > ;-) > > I've always wanted to buy something from this guy, he has some > excellent deals if one can stand buying "sight unseen". > Even with his 3053/99.9% rating that's hard for me to do. > > I suspect the "hair" is a string of glue inside, I saw that in my > first one too. It was fairly easy to remove. > > Don > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: > 12/12/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: > 12/12/2005 > > >
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
On 12/13/05, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld > ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm > > Comments welcome > > -- > Bruce It's another Dayton signature piece. Brilliant, Bruce! -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Who's shooting professionally with Pentax
Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Who's using their Pentax gear to make a buck or two, what gear are you >using, are you using film or digital or both, and what kind of jobs are >you doing? Though I'm a full-time student for one more semester, my only job is photography these days. I did a couple of weddings this summer (shudder), shot the Superbike races at Mid-Ohio for superbikeplanet.com, I've done work for a local nature group for their presentations, I just got a job shooting a custom Harley chopper for the owner who's trying to get it into various biker mags and I'm selling prints through my web site (go a last-minute Christmas order going out today). All kinds of "odds and ends" jobs like these. Oh, and giving private lessons in Photoshop - no kidding. I'm pretty much all digital for work, though I still sometimes shoot film for fun (mostly b&w in the 645). Camera is the ist-D. Most used lenses for "work shooting" are the FA*80-200/2.8, FA*28-70/2.8 and Tamron 17-35/2.8-4. I use the Sigma EF500 DG Super flash - if I'd decided to do more weddings I'd have bought a Quantum power pack for it, as it is it works fine for the shooting I do now. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Aliens
Quoting keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Okay then. If that's how you define it, that makes sense. > > However, let's do the numbers. If that bug that Davuid Mann showed in > his image was indeed 1/2 mm long, how large was the original image?! > > The bug, as shown on my monitor, measures about 2.5 cm long, which > indicates I'm looking at an enlargement of about 50X... We agree on that? > > Since the extent of David's image on my monitor is already 15 cm > (5.0955") vertically, that must mean the _original_ 100% unresized print > or image was some 295" vertically! > > Somehow I don't think that's correct. Of course it is not correct. The phosphor dots on your screen are placed further apart than the pixels in Dave's scanner. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
Is there a public reason why they close it? Jostein Quoting Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've just been informed of the sad decision to close the Pentax Benelux > branch and the relevant repair lab next April. That lab in Breda is the most > > renowned Pentax service, the only one capable to solve the hardest technical > > problems for all European branches of Pentax. > A petition to Pentax against this move is undergoing here. > http://www.culinair.com/pentax/index.php > > Ciao > > Dario > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Sigma XQ 200mm - strange soft-focus macro
>>Do you happen to have a photo of the lens, Derby? (Thanks.) > This is the ebay listing... http://tinyurl.com/blnpt Thanks, Derby. That's interesting looking. I've never seen one of 'em before, and I was just curious. > I have to say, I'm a bit intrigued with this lens. It is definitely > krappy, but in a funny lomo sort of way. Might see what artyfarty uses > it can be put to. Yeah. I picked up a Tamron (Adaptall 2) 70-150/2.8 zoom with an "extra" control ring on it, for controlling its soft focus effects (from no softening to a moderate blur and everything in between). It is not a "krappy" lens by any means, but I pick it up, not because it might be "super-duper-sharp", but because I was interested in playing around with the soft-focus effects (as a portrait lens). Sometimes you stumble onto some "odd personality" older lens that just hints at "fun" so much that you "haftahavit" - . Fred
Re: OT: Do you guys think this is legit? or BS?
Hi Ann, Saw the other replies and know you turned it down. Good thing you did. As Bob says, they make money on the entrance fee. A google search brought up a series of user experiences from people who have been fooled. Apparently they don't deliver according to promise. For example: http://www.bookmarket.com/tip041011.html (scroll 3/4 down the page) Jostein Quoting Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I haven't looked at his site yet - should I be > leary of it? anyone > know anything about it? > > This is the email I got this morning - would be > great if it is real and safe > > Anyone know anything at all about this or what > precautions I should take > with it? > > Thanks much - and sorry I haven't been peso and > paw commenting for a bit > I've just finished finally the work on the > engagement calendar > > ann > __ > > Subject: > I want to sell your T-shirts through our > stores >Date: > Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:24:11 -0800 >From: > "Mark Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I've spent a lot of time at the Owl and the > Pussycat website and I think > your T-shirts are perfect for our stores. I > especially like your Cattitude > and Dancing Frogs designs. We work hand in hand > with the largest stores in > the country, plus thousands of small to medium > sized specialty businesses > stretched across the U.S.. If you want the > opportunity to sell your > products through major retailers like Sears, > Macys, Nordstrom, Robinsons > May, JC Penney, Target, QVC, HSN, etc ... plus the > other 51005 gift stores, > 11329 men's clothing stores, 39089 women's > clothing stores, 7129 children's > clothing stores, and over 24000 mail-order > catalogs ... check us out at > http://www.VendorPro.com > > Sincerely, > Mark Adams > VendorPro.com > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Couldn't resist.
$39.00 You Pirate! Don Sanderson wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7572750740 I now have 2 on the way, eventually I'll get another really good one. ;-) I've always wanted to buy something from this guy, he has some excellent deals if one can stand buying "sight unseen". Even with his 3053/99.9% rating that's hard for me to do. I suspect the "hair" is a string of glue inside, I saw that in my first one too. It was fairly easy to remove. Don -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Who's shooting professionally with Pentax
Mark, You mention that you had considered a Quantum power pack for your Sigma flash. Is there a "power in' connecter on the Sigma? Does Quantum make a connector? I own both the Sigma and a Quantum Battery II, but I never saw anything on Sigma that suggested an external power source could be implemented. Am I missing something? Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Who's using their Pentax gear to make a buck or two, what gear are you > >using, are you using film or digital or both, and what kind of jobs are > >you doing? > > Though I'm a full-time student for one more semester, my only job is > photography these days. I did a couple of weddings this summer > (shudder), shot the Superbike races at Mid-Ohio for superbikeplanet.com, > I've done work for a local nature group for their presentations, I just > got a job shooting a custom Harley chopper for the owner who's trying to > get it into various biker mags and I'm selling prints through my web > site (go a last-minute Christmas order going out today). All kinds of > "odds and ends" jobs like these. Oh, and giving private lessons in > Photoshop - no kidding. > > I'm pretty much all digital for work, though I still sometimes shoot > film for fun (mostly b&w in the 645). Camera is the ist-D. Most used > lenses for "work shooting" are the FA*80-200/2.8, FA*28-70/2.8 and > Tamron 17-35/2.8-4. I use the Sigma EF500 DG Super flash - if I'd > decided to do more weddings I'd have bought a Quantum power pack for it, > as it is it works fine for the shooting I do now. > > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
I haven't seen official information about that. However, it is widely believed it is for Pentax world cost cut policy. I've also heard rumors of job cuts at Pentax Germany/Europe, but cannot confirm that. In Italy, those 8 folks working for Pentax in Florence sales dept. for years are no longer there (all fired or retired in advance). Their office has been closed one month ago and now there are just 5 (new) people in Milan premises of the Italian distributor. Bye, Dario - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab Is there a public reason why they close it? Jostein Quoting Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've just been informed of the sad decision to close the Pentax Benelux branch and the relevant repair lab next April. That lab in Breda is the most renowned Pentax service, the only one capable to solve the hardest technical problems for all European branches of Pentax. A petition to Pentax against this move is undergoing here. http://www.culinair.com/pentax/index.php Ciao Dario This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: istDS v istDS2
Shel & Dave - I've not noticed a major difference between the two in either speed or function and if there is a difference in battery life with the larger screen it hasn't been bad enough to slap me in the face (at least at this point). The larger screen is nice, and is somewhat easier on my 64 year old eyes, though. When I bought the DS2 I wanted to buy locally and had there been a DS body only available for a lower price, I would have been very happy to buy it instead. For a brief time the Auto ISO available via the function button and continuous AF available in the record menu as well as the Action program were the major differences for me between the DS and DS2, but the recent firmware upgrade for the DS puts these in place so, with the exception of the larger screen the DS pretty much becomes a DS2. The *bells and whistles* are nice for quick family photos, but I find that for *serious* pix like weddings and portraits I revert back to my old habits of either Av or manual everything. -P David Oswald wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Paul ... Have you noticed any differences between the DS and the DS2 in terms of speed or function? Is the larger screen on the back a substantial improvement? Shel One question I would have regarding the difference between the two is whether the larger screen has an impact on battery life, or if any negative impact created by the larger screen has been offset by newer-generation electronic components in the DS2.
Re: Grand Canyon
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: Grand Canyon Probably old news to some of you. I just heard of it. No not the Grand Canyon itself. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0826_050826_grandcanyon.html It's ugly but cool at the same time. I'd never get my wife on it. Christian
Re: istDS v istDS2
Paul, What speed(s) are the SD cards that you're using? Godfrey thought that the DS2 could take advantage of cards with speeds of up to 133X or so, iirc. IAC, if you're using slower cards, you might not notice any write speed difference. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Paul Sorenson > Shel & Dave - > > I've not noticed a major difference between the two in either speed or > function and if there is a difference in battery life with the larger > screen it hasn't been bad enough to slap me in the face (at least at > this point). The larger screen is nice, and is somewhat easier on my 64 > year old eyes, though.
Re: Amature
Sonny, lovely stuff! You've made some wonderful images there. About the lens, I know everyone raves about the 50/1.4 primes (with reason), but I got the FA 50mm/1.7 for two reasons: it weighs two ounces less than the 1.4 (minimizing weight is important to me), and I only paid about $90 for a near mint lens on ebay, about 9 months ago. Keep posting pictures, thanks! *>UncaMikey
RE: Grand Canyon
That is very cool. I'd love to see it and walk out on it. Glad to know it's not at the Grand canyon, though. That would be a disaster. Shel > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0826_050826_grandcanyon.html
Re: PESO - not a skimmer
- Original Message - From: "Ronald Arvidsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:50 AM Subject: Re: PESO - not a skimmer Hi Christian, Do you have any picutre of the ballhead-frying pan pod? How did you mount the ballhead to the frying pan -? Sounds really interesting! :-) no picture of the pod, but I'll post one soon. It was really quite simple. 1. Buy a really nice 10" heavy-duty aluminum skillet pan (not one with a long handle; it has two small handles) for about US$30. 2. Drill a hole dead center. 3. Get a short carriage bolt, several large flat washers, a couple of lock washers and one nut for about US$5. 4. Stick the bolt and one large washer through the bottom of the pan, another large washer, a lock washer on the bolt and tighten it all with the nut. 5. The tripod head then threads on to the bolt. Instant ground pod. Here was my inspiration: http://www.naturescapes.net/store/product.php?productid=41&cat=19&page=1 my home-made job beats the $125 Greg charges for his. The funny thing is, the other photogs in the workshop had a laugh about my pod until Greg told him his prototype was exactly what I had built :-) Christian
Re: Who's shooting professionally with Pentax
Where have you been the last 40 years or so, Paul? Quantum's power packs usually use a dummy battery pack with a cord to connect. Often require a hole to be drilled or notched into the battery door of the flash as well, which I never much liked. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, You mention that you had considered a Quantum power pack for your Sigma flash. Is there a "power in' connecter on the Sigma? Does Quantum make a connector? I own both the Sigma and a Quantum Battery II, but I never saw anything on Sigma that suggested an external power source could be implemented. Am I missing something? Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Who's using their Pentax gear to make a buck or two, what gear are you using, are you using film or digital or both, and what kind of jobs are you doing? Though I'm a full-time student for one more semester, my only job is photography these days. I did a couple of weddings this summer (shudder), shot the Superbike races at Mid-Ohio for superbikeplanet.com, I've done work for a local nature group for their presentations, I just got a job shooting a custom Harley chopper for the owner who's trying to get it into various biker mags and I'm selling prints through my web site (go a last-minute Christmas order going out today). All kinds of "odds and ends" jobs like these. Oh, and giving private lessons in Photoshop - no kidding. I'm pretty much all digital for work, though I still sometimes shoot film for fun (mostly b&w in the 645). Camera is the ist-D. Most used lenses for "work shooting" are the FA*80-200/2.8, FA*28-70/2.8 and Tamron 17-35/2.8-4. I use the Sigma EF500 DG Super flash - if I'd decided to do more weddings I'd have bought a Quantum power pack for it, as it is it works fine for the shooting I do now. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - not a skimmer
Thanks for the ifno Christian. I'll make one myself. Cheers, Ronald Christian wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ronald Arvidsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:50 AM Subject: Re: PESO - not a skimmer Hi Christian, Do you have any picutre of the ballhead-frying pan pod? How did you mount the ballhead to the frying pan -? Sounds really interesting! :-) no picture of the pod, but I'll post one soon. It was really quite simple. 1. Buy a really nice 10" heavy-duty aluminum skillet pan (not one with a long handle; it has two small handles) for about US$30. 2. Drill a hole dead center. 3. Get a short carriage bolt, several large flat washers, a couple of lock washers and one nut for about US$5. 4. Stick the bolt and one large washer through the bottom of the pan, another large washer, a lock washer on the bolt and tighten it all with the nut. 5. The tripod head then threads on to the bolt. Instant ground pod. Here was my inspiration: http://www.naturescapes.net/store/product.php?productid=41&cat=19&page=1 my home-made job beats the $125 Greg charges for his. The funny thing is, the other photogs in the workshop had a laugh about my pod until Greg told him his prototype was exactly what I had built :-) Christian
Re: istDS v istDS2
Shel, You're right in your premise that I'm not using high speed cards. For what I do, the inexpensive (read that cheap ;>0) cards have a sufficient write speed. With faster cards the buffer will clear a little faster so if one is shooting lots of continuous action there would be an advantage there and the DS2 might have it over the DS. The faster write speed *may* also manifest itself in a few more exposures during the life of the batteries due to the shorter transfer time from the buffer to the card, but my suspicion is that in the overall assessment the increase in shots per battery would be inconsequential. For my shooting style, there's no real advantage to spending the extra $ for faster cards. -P Shel Belinkoff wrote: Paul, What speed(s) are the SD cards that you're using? Godfrey thought that the DS2 could take advantage of cards with speeds of up to 133X or so, iirc. IAC, if you're using slower cards, you might not notice any write speed difference. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Sorenson Shel & Dave - I've not noticed a major difference between the two in either speed or function and if there is a difference in battery life with the larger screen it hasn't been bad enough to slap me in the face (at least at this point). The larger screen is nice, and is somewhat easier on my 64 year old eyes, though.
Market
Well, I've quickly discovered that its very hard to find pentax lenses. I would like to buy the 50mm FA/1.4, but besides bhphotovideo.com and 1 single hit on ebay, I don't know where else to look. It seems like either because of marketing or just number of users, pentax lenses are a lot harder to find. I was wondering if there's another website I don't know about that everyone else here gets their lenses from. I can't afford a new one so perhaps a place that I can trust buying used ones (maybe even one of you?).
RE: Market
Try KEH.com Shel > [Original Message] > From: Sunny Chung > I was wondering if there's another website I don't know about that > everyone else here gets > their lenses from. I can't afford a new one so perhaps a place that I > can trust buying used ones (maybe even one of you?).
Re: Who's shooting professionally with Pentax
The Pentax AT 400 has a power connection for external power supplies. Quantum makes a cord that plugs right into it. That's the only relatively recent unit with which I'm familiar. My thirty-five year old Honeywell potato masher strobes also had connections for external power. I've never encountered the dummy battery pack setups. Paul -- Original message -- From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Where have you been the last 40 years or so, Paul? Quantum's power packs > usually use a dummy battery pack with a cord to connect. Often require a > hole to be drilled or notched into the battery door of the flash as > well, which I never much liked. > > graywolf > http://www.graywolfphoto.com > "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > --- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Mark, > >You mention that you had considered a Quantum power pack for your Sigma > >flash. > Is there a "power in' connecter on the Sigma? Does Quantum make a connector? > I > own both the Sigma and a Quantum Battery II, but I never saw anything on > Sigma > that suggested an external power source could be implemented. Am I missing > something? > >Paul > > -- Original message -- > >From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >>Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Who's using their Pentax gear to make a buck or two, what gear are you > >>>using, are you using film or digital or both, and what kind of jobs are > >>>you doing? > >>> > >>> > >>Though I'm a full-time student for one more semester, my only job is > >>photography these days. I did a couple of weddings this summer > >>(shudder), shot the Superbike races at Mid-Ohio for superbikeplanet.com, > >>I've done work for a local nature group for their presentations, I just > >>got a job shooting a custom Harley chopper for the owner who's trying to > >>get it into various biker mags and I'm selling prints through my web > >>site (go a last-minute Christmas order going out today). All kinds of > >>"odds and ends" jobs like these. Oh, and giving private lessons in > >>Photoshop - no kidding. > >> > >>I'm pretty much all digital for work, though I still sometimes shoot > >>film for fun (mostly b&w in the 645). Camera is the ist-D. Most used > >>lenses for "work shooting" are the FA*80-200/2.8, FA*28-70/2.8 and > >>Tamron 17-35/2.8-4. I use the Sigma EF500 DG Super flash - if I'd > >>decided to do more weddings I'd have bought a Quantum power pack for it, > >>as it is it works fine for the shooting I do now. > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Mark Roberts > >>Photography and writing > >>www.robertstech.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
Pentax USA also went thru a reduction in employees this fall. Bob S. On 12/14/05, Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't seen official information about that. However, it is widely > believed it is for Pentax world cost cut policy. > I've also heard rumors of job cuts at Pentax Germany/Europe, but cannot > confirm that. > In Italy, those 8 folks working for Pentax in Florence sales dept. for years > are no longer there (all fired or retired in advance). > Their office has been closed one month ago and now there are just 5 (new) > people in Milan premises of the Italian distributor. > > Bye, > > Dario > > - Original Message - > From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:00 PM > Subject: Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab > > > > > > Is there a public reason why they close it? > > > > Jostein > > > > > > Quoting Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> I've just been informed of the sad decision to close the Pentax Benelux > >> branch and the relevant repair lab next April. That lab in Breda is the > >> most > >> > >> renowned Pentax service, the only one capable to solve the hardest > >> technical > >> > >> problems for all European branches of Pentax. > >> A petition to Pentax against this move is undergoing here. > >> http://www.culinair.com/pentax/index.php > >> > >> Ciao > >> > >> Dario > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > >
Re: Market
Just after the *istDS came out, there seemed to be a HUGE run on Pentax lenses on the used market. They were quite common before, and quite rare after. I find myself wishing that I'd picked up a few choice lenses (Tokina 100-300/4, A28/2.8) before people started buying them all up. -Mat On 12/14/05, Sunny Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I've quickly discovered that its very hard to find pentax lenses. > I would like to buy the 50mm FA/1.4, but besides bhphotovideo.com and > 1 single hit on ebay, I don't know where else to look. It seems like > either because of > marketing or just number of users, pentax lenses are a lot harder to find. > I was wondering if there's another website I don't know about that > everyone else here gets > their lenses from. I can't afford a new one so perhaps a place that I > can trust buying used ones (maybe even one of you?). > >
Re: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
Hi Kostas, You are correct. I was amused at Godfrey's reply because it was devoid of ambiguity. Tom C. From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35??? Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:32:56 + (GMT) On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'd sell the older lenses and buy an FA35/2. It's a better lens in my opinion. Have you used the Ks? Or are you comparing with the 40 in the above? Kostas p.s.: I believe Tom was positively commenting on the straightness of your answer (which is also why I like reading your posts); don't get mad.
FS: Friday for sale
Friday for sale (a little premature, but...) Vosonic X's-Drive (Harddrive/Card Reader/MP3 player) with 40GB harddrive. Like new with all acceccories included. Asking price: 150 USD. Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
The gold colored leaf grabbed my attention. So I was trying to show the leaf much how I saw it - a standout in a crowd. It needed the context around it to be more than just a picture of a leaf. -- Bruce Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 9:16:21 PM, you wrote: BL> Hi! >> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld >> ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm BL> Bruce, it is really excellent... I have a question however - how/why you BL> decided to compose it like this? It is not a question of critique but BL> rather of curiosity. BL> Thanks. BL> Boris
Re: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:32 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: I'd sell the older lenses and buy an FA35/2. It's a better lens in my opinion. Have you used the Ks? Or are you comparing with the 40 in the above? I tried a K35/3.5 for a couple of days (seemed good, but I didn't buy it) and own an A35/2.8 (good performer). The FA35/2 is significantly better than either of those. That's my direct experience, but others I chat with through DPReview and Photo.net have reported similar comparison results against other Pentax 35mm lenses. p.s.: I believe Tom was positively commenting on the straightness of your answer (which is also why I like reading your posts); don't get mad. I'm not mad or upset, I just couldn't make out what he was suggesting or to whom. ;-) Godfrey
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Many thanks, Frank. -- Bruce Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 5:10:20 AM, you wrote: ft> On 12/13/05, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld >> ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm >> >> Comments welcome >> >> -- >> Bruce ft> It's another Dayton signature piece. ft> Brilliant, Bruce! ft> -frank ft> -- ft> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Boris Liberman wrote: > > Hi! > > Ann, all I could say is "wow!"... And I thought you were more of a > street/people shooter... Man, I was wrong! > > Boris Well I kinda do both - it is just what ever is in front of the camera that I want to look at again... it may not seem that way, but most of these are grab shots. I seldom had the luxury of time to set up and wait. So it is a difference in subject matter from the street stuff. anyway, thanks for the "wow" :) ann
Re: FS: Friday for sale
Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friday for sale (a little premature, but...) Oh, I love Fridays. How much do you ask for it? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
Re: Who's shooting professionally with Pentax
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Mark, >You mention that you had considered a Quantum power pack for your Sigma flash. >Is there a "power in' connecter on the Sigma? Does Quantum make a connector? I >own both the Sigma and a Quantum Battery II, but I never saw anything on Sigma >that suggested a >n external power source could be implemented. Am I missing something? There is no external power connector. I believe the power pack just has a block that's the approximate size/shape of four AA batteries and goes into the battery compartment and is connected to the power pack via cable. Probably requires cutting a notch in the battery compartment door. I probably wouldn't do that on a $500 flash but I'd have no qualms about it with a $200 unit! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Rather little enablement
Hi! Got today my LaCrosse BC-900 intelligent battery charger. Now I have 5 sets of batteries for my camera - 2 * 2300 mAh and 3 * 2000 mAh... The charger is charging the batteries as I write this message ;-). My thanks goes to Rob Studdert who made me think and eventually enable myself with this charger. Boris
RE: Couldn't resist.
A! Don > -Original Message- > From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:42 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Couldn't resist. > > > $39.00 You Pirate! > > Don Sanderson wrote: > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7572750740 > > > >I now have 2 on the way, eventually I'll get another really good one. ;-) > > > >I've always wanted to buy something from this guy, he has some > >excellent deals if one can stand buying "sight unseen". > >Even with his 3053/99.9% rating that's hard for me to do. > > > >I suspect the "hair" is a string of glue inside, I saw that in my > >first one too. It was fairly easy to remove. > > > >Don > > > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). >
Re: Who's shooting professionally with Pentax
Thanks, but I think I'm out of luck. My Quantum Battery 2 is a 9 volt unit. I use it with the AF400T. The Sigma would require the 6 volt Battery 1 or one of Quantum's other 6 volt power packs. I guess I'll keep swapping those nimh batteries in and out. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Mark, > >You mention that you had considered a Quantum power pack for your Sigma > >flash. > Is there a "power in' connecter on the Sigma? Does Quantum make a connector? > I > own both the Sigma and a Quantum Battery II, but I never saw anything on > Sigma > that suggested a > >n external power source could be implemented. Am I missing something? > > There is no external power connector. I believe the power pack just has > a block that's the approximate size/shape of four AA batteries and goes > into the battery compartment and is connected to the power pack via > cable. Probably requires cutting a notch in the battery compartment > door. I probably wouldn't do that on a $500 flash but I'd have no qualms > about it with a $200 unit! > > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
PESO - A Quiet Moment
This was taken a few days ago at a family portrait session. I usually shoot each of the children individually along with the family. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, AF360FGZ on Stroboframe bracket ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Manual Mode, Center weighted metering -1.5 stops flash compensation, shading provided by the father holding my reflective to soften the sun. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment
Looks really flat and of quite low contrast on my semi-calibrated screen. Can you explain a bit about flash compensation? Why did you chose -1.5 stops? Why would you chose any compensation? I know virtually nothing about flash ... Shel " ... " > [Original Message] > From: Bruce Dayton > This was taken a few days ago at a family portrait session. I usually > shoot each of the children individually along with the family. > > > Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, AF360FGZ on Stroboframe bracket > ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Manual Mode, Center weighted metering > -1.5 stops flash compensation, shading provided by the father holding > my reflective to soften the sun. > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm
RE: Amature
Very good portefoleo. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Sunny Chung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14. desember 2005 07:07 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Amature > > Hey everyone thank you for all your quick and extremely informative > responses. Just wanted to introduce myself a little more > I've only just began to work with DSLR's and I'm a poor college > student :-(. So after all your advice, I definately want the 50/1.4 > FA lens... but don't have $200 to spend right now. The only lens I > have right now is the kit lens that came with my ist DL, which isn't > bad. Once again, thank you for all your responses. If you care to > look at my amature photography, > I've posted my best pictures so far at: > > http://dapjang.deviantart.com/gallery/ >
Re: Grand Canyon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:58:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hmm... :-) I realize it may not be the right aesthetic, but I would quite > like to stand on it and look down through it if it's built. > > Tom C. > = > Count me out. > > > > Marnie aka Doe what she said ann
Re: Rather little enablement
Hi Boris, I used mine to fix several sets of old NiCad AAs that I thought were absolutely finished. I'm using them in the flashes and they are holding up like they were new. The La Crosse (not available in Finland) is a very smart device. Don Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Got today my LaCrosse BC-900 intelligent battery charger. Now I have 5 sets of batteries for my camera - 2 * 2300 mAh and 3 * 2000 mAh... The charger is charging the batteries as I write this message ;-). My thanks goes to Rob Studdert who made me think and eventually enable myself with this charger. Boris -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Print Gallery-- 16 11 2005
Re: PESO - A Quiet Moment
Hello Shel, You've mentioned flatness/low contrast before. I have viewed it on two calibrated monitors - one CRT and one LCD and it seems fine to me. I'll be interested to hear what others think. Could be your monitor or mine or just an individual preference. Hopefully others will give their impressions. As to fill flash - when shooting outdoor portraits, their can be some issues with lighting. Even when using shade and such, the lighting can be a little cold. So when shooting for color (all of my stuff needs to be color for the client), it is nice to warm it up a bit. On top of that, sometimes the eyes can look dull and dark. The flash will brighten them up a bit. The trick here is to not use too much flash. You are only trying to enhance the light a little bit, not have the flash be a main light source. So by dialing in negative compensation, the flash will pop just a bit and give the desired effect, rather than looking like a flash was used. It is a subtle use, but noticeable in side by side photos comparing flash and no flash. A very similar thing can be done with a reflector. The trick with the reflector is that it takes an extra person to hold it. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 11:01:47 AM, you wrote: SB> Looks really flat and of quite low contrast on my semi-calibrated screen. SB> Can you explain a bit about flash compensation? Why did you chose -1.5 SB> stops? Why would you chose any compensation? I know virtually nothing SB> about flash ... SB> Shel SB> " ... " >> [Original Message] >> From: Bruce Dayton >> This was taken a few days ago at a family portrait session. I usually >> shoot each of the children individually along with the family. >> >> >> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, AF360FGZ on Stroboframe bracket >> ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Manual Mode, Center weighted metering >> -1.5 stops flash compensation, shading provided by the father holding >> my reflective to soften the sun. >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm
Re: PESO - A Quiet Moment
Very nice. Good use of fill. You generated some catchlights and hair detail without overlighting. The contrast level is subtle but well suited to this type of portrait, IMO. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This was taken a few days ago at a family portrait session. I usually > shoot each of the children individually along with the family. > > > Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, AF360FGZ on Stroboframe bracket > ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Manual Mode, Center weighted metering > -1.5 stops flash compensation, shading provided by the father holding > my reflective to soften the sun. > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm > > Comments welcome > > -- > Bruce >
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Ann Sanfedele wrote: (of her subjects) it is just what ever is in front of the camera that I want to look at again... This is going in my quote file.
PESO: Wall Flower
One of the detail pics from my bedroom shoot. Two monolights. Fill at minus one stop. FA 50/1.4 on the *istD f10 @ 1/60 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3950383
OT: Which Flat Screen
Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. I think Rob wrote about this once, but I can't seem to find that mail... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Ronald Arvidsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. december 2005 13:44 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: FS: 200 f2.8 screwmount - Mint I have for sale a Sigma 200 f2.8, YS- screwmount. The lens comes with a "macromode" making focusing to !/3 of full size possible. This part though I believe is more of a softfocus thing than the real macro. The lens has only been used a couple of times. Aperture and focusing works snappy and smoothly. Aperture is the so called automatic for pentax M42. Optics fine and without marks and blemishes. Asking 140 Euro. Ship from Sweden at actual cost. Cheers, Ronald
Re: PESO: Wall Flower
Very nice, Paul, but...what's holding the vase to the wall? Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > One of the detail pics from my bedroom shoot. Two > monolights. Fill at minus one stop. FA 50/1.4 on the > *istD f10 @ 1/60 > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3950383 > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - A Quiet Moment
Hi Bruce; My first reaction was "very beautiful; great tones and lighting" then I read Shel's comment I don't think it's flat or too low contrast. I really like it! Christian - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: PESO - A Quiet Moment This was taken a few days ago at a family portrait session. I usually shoot each of the children individually along with the family. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, AF360FGZ on Stroboframe bracket ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Manual Mode, Center weighted metering -1.5 stops flash compensation, shading provided by the father holding my reflective to soften the sun. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
Re: Wall Flower
Paul; to be honest I don't like the color of the wall It's kinda nit-picky but to me it distracts from the image as a whole. Also, the feeling of looking up at the vase is "uncomfortable" I do like the composition, the arrangement of the flowers and the colors: bright green, subtle cream and splash of pink. Christian - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: PESO: Wall Flower One of the detail pics from my bedroom shoot. Two monolights. Fill at minus one stop. FA 50/1.4 on the *istD f10 @ 1/60 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3950383
Re: Which Flat Screen
Hi Jens, I'm not Rob, so I will just put forward a personal recommendation. I have a LaCie 20" flat panel that I'm happy with. It was about 30% cheaper than the alternatives from Apple and Eizo, and the colours have been very stable. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: OT: Which Flat Screen Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. I think Rob wrote about this once, but I can't seem to find that mail... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk
RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment
A relaxed portrait of a relaxed moment. Well balanced, the lines works together... I like it. Shel says it is flat. I don't. I find it subtle but rich, and this is not the first time. This makes me wonder. Is it a matter of different tastes or different monitors? To be honest, I have no idea. What I do know is: Generally speaking, this poetic subtle richness is one of the things I admire in your work Bruce. This is something I find in most of your work, whether the motif is flowers or human flowers ;-) like in this. But I don't know if it is "correct" or not. I just know what I like. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14. desember 2005 19:52 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - A Quiet Moment > > This was taken a few days ago at a family portrait session. I usually > shoot each of the children individually along with the family. > > > Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, AF360FGZ on Stroboframe bracket > ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Manual Mode, Center weighted metering > -1.5 stops flash compensation, shading provided by the father holding > my reflective to soften the sun. > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm > > Comments welcome > > -- > Bruce >
Re: PESO - A Quiet Moment
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: A relaxed portrait of a relaxed moment. Well balanced, the lines works together... I like it. Shel says it is flat. I don't. I find it subtle but rich, and this is not the first time. This makes me wonder. Is it a matter of different tastes or different monitors? To be honest, I have no idea. Doesn't look at all flat to me, either. It may be a monitor issue. Bob
Re: Which Flat Screen
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Jostein wrote: Hi Jens, I'm not Rob, so I will just put forward a personal recommendation. I have a LaCie 20" flat panel that I'm happy with. It was about 30% cheaper than the alternatives from Apple and Eizo, and the colours have been very stable. Actually, I'm hearing good things about the ones Dell sells. Very reasonable in price and capable of being calibrated. If you plan to use your monitor for photography purposes, you should also budget for calibration software/spyder. An uncalibrated monitor makes it impossible to know what you are doing. I use an Apple 17 for most of my work. It calibrates easily and is exceptionally stable. Bob
Re: Which Flat Screen
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:06 PM Subject: OT: Which Flat Screen Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. I think Rob wrote about this once, but I can't seem to find that mail... Regards I have a Dell Ultrasharp 19" that I'm very happy with. Christian
RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment
Hi, I may change my opinion later. I realized that I was wearing a white shirt, and getting more than the usual amount of reflected light on the screen even though the shades in the office were drawn. Now is not a good time for me to review the photo because the sun streaming into the office is very bright and at an angle that makes it difficult to see the screen. But, to answer your question, it's also a matter of monitor calibration and personal taste. I think overall I prefer B&W photos with a little more contrast than Bruce, although, for the most part, I feel his color work is great and it looks good on my monitor as well. There is no "correct" Tim. For the most part, the folks on this list have got their preferences straight, know how they want their photos to look, and are capable of presenting them in that manner. And some of us are just learning those things ... I've seen quite a number of original prints by W. Eugene Smith, who, arguably, was one of the great printers of his era. Yet many of his photos have a rather compressed tonal range - but it was clearly Smith's choice to use that style of printing. He could have printed his photos in any way he wanted, but the tonal scale he used worked for those photos he produced in that manner. Shel " ... " > [Original Message] > From: Tim Øsleby > Shel says it is flat. I don't. > I find it subtle but rich, and this is not the first time. > > This makes me wonder. Is it a matter of different tastes or different > monitors? To be honest, I have no idea. > > What I do know is: Generally speaking, this poetic subtle richness is one of > the things I admire in your work Bruce. This is something I find in most of > your work, whether the motif is flowers or human flowers ;-) like in this. > But I don't know if it is "correct" or not. I just know what I like. > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm
Re: Which Flat Screen
There are flat screen CRT monitors and, of course, flat screen LCD/Plasma monitors. Which does your friend desire? Shel > - Original Message - > From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. > Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. > I think Rob wrote about this once, but I can't seem to find that mail...
Re: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
I'm not mad or upset, I just couldn't make out what he was suggesting or to whom. ;-) Godfrey Ironic, is it not, that my attempt at humorously acknowledging the lack of ambiguity in your words, was itself apparently, ambiguous. :-) Tom C.
RE: Grand Canyon
I'm not as bad as you. 6 big guys and some strong tranquilisers and they might get me out there. If they could stand the screaming. ;-( Don (8 feet up is my limit.) > -Original Message- > From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:10 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Grand Canyon > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:58:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hmm... :-) I realize it may not be the right aesthetic, but I > would quite > > like to stand on it and look down through it if it's built. > > > > Tom C. > > = > > Count me out. > > > > > > > > Marnie aka Doe > > what she said > ann >
Re: OT: Which Flat Screen
I use the Apple Cinema Display 20" and find it to be an exceptional performer. Calibrates easily, is extremely stable, very solid resolution and high quality color fidelity. Godfrey On Dec 14, 2005, at 12:06 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. I think Rob wrote about this once, but I can't seem to find that mail...
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
The testing I've done with the driver for my Multi Pro indicates that most adjustments are best left for Photoshop. The only driver control I set these days is exposure, and I have to be extremely careful to avoid clipping the highlights. I agree with that. In general, what I try to do when scanning is gather as much data as possible, fitting the negative to the scanner's capture capability as closely as possible. ... I also use 4x oversampling and dICE. The extra scanning time is worth it. I did many experiments with oversampling and only rarely saw much real improvement come out of it. Only with either *extremely* thin or overly dense/contrasty negatives do I find much use for it. It pays to optimize exposure and processing for scanning if it's your primary means to render negatives to print. I normally shoot negatives for scanning to be *just* dense enough to capture the shadow details clearly, unblocked highs, and use minimal agitation to reduce grain growth. Godfrey
Re: Help me decide, DA40 or FA35???
On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:15 PM, Tom C wrote: I'm not mad or upset, I just couldn't make out what he was suggesting or to whom. ;-) Ironic, is it not, that my attempt at humorously acknowledging the lack of ambiguity in your words, was itself apparently, ambiguous. :-) lol ... ain't it the truth. ;-) Godfrey
Re: PESO - A Quiet Moment
I feel the quiet subdued light. "Flat," in this case is restful and suits a melancholy scene. Jack --- Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > > > A relaxed portrait of a relaxed moment. Well balanced, the lines > works > > together... I like it. > > > > Shel says it is flat. I don't. > > I find it subtle but rich, and this is not the first time. > > > > This makes me wonder. Is it a matter of different tastes or > different > > monitors? To be honest, I have no idea. > > > Doesn't look at all flat to me, either. It may be a monitor issue. > > Bob > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
I'm aware that aggressive agitation increases contrast substantially but have never heard/considered/noticed it having a pronounced effect on grain size. Could you elaborate a bit on this? Don > -Original Message- > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:52 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner > and use minimal agitation to > reduce grain growth. > > Godfrey >
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Don't forget "and a bit of talant honed by years of experience" to go with it. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- E.R.N. Reed wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: (of her subjects) it is just what ever is in front of the camera that I want to look at again... This is going in my quote file.
RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment
My first thought when I saw this was 'content'. (As in: Comfort and a feeling of satisfaction.) Nicely done Bruce. I need to use the A70-210 more. Don > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:52 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - A Quiet Moment > > > This was taken a few days ago at a family portrait session. I usually > shoot each of the children individually along with the family. > > > Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, AF360FGZ on Stroboframe bracket > ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Manual Mode, Center weighted metering > -1.5 stops flash compensation, shading provided by the father holding > my reflective to soften the sun. > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm > > Comments welcome > > -- > Bruce >
RE: Which Flat Screen
Hi Jens, I recently bought a ViewSonic VP191b. It's a highly recommended LCD. You can see in the link a test with several 19'' lcd''s. And it has a fair price here in Portugal of about 550€. http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/06/06/finding_the_best_19/ Best regards, Manuel -Mensagem original- De: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: quarta-feira, 14 de Dezembro de 2005 20:06 Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Assunto: OT: Which Flat Screen Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. I think Rob wrote about this once, but I can't seem to find that mail... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Ronald Arvidsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. december 2005 13:44 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: FS: 200 f2.8 screwmount - Mint I have for sale a Sigma 200 f2.8, YS- screwmount. The lens comes with a "macromode" making focusing to !/3 of full size possible. This part though I believe is more of a softfocus thing than the real macro. The lens has only been used a couple of times. Aperture and focusing works snappy and smoothly. Aperture is the so called automatic for pentax M42. Optics fine and without marks and blemishes. Asking 140 Euro. Ship from Sweden at actual cost. Cheers, Ronald
Re: Wall Flower
A neat image Paul, I like it. Almost an abstract. A minor nit is the glare off the vase. My thought is using polarized light with a polarizer on the lens to dial out the glare. Never tried this, have you? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO: Wall Flower One of the detail pics from my bedroom shoot. Two monolights. Fill at minus one stop. FA 50/1.4 on the *istD f10 @ 1/60 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3950383
Re: Which Flat Screen
I've recently been using a 17" flat screen from Dell. Not the monitor I wanted, but it seems to be doing the job. I have no complaints with it. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: Which Flat Screen Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. I think Rob wrote about this once, but I can't seem to find that mail... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Ronald Arvidsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. december 2005 13:44 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: FS: 200 f2.8 screwmount - Mint I have for sale a Sigma 200 f2.8, YS- screwmount. The lens comes with a "macromode" making focusing to !/3 of full size possible. This part though I believe is more of a softfocus thing than the real macro. The lens has only been used a couple of times. Aperture and focusing works snappy and smoothly. Aperture is the so called automatic for pentax M42. Optics fine and without marks and blemishes. Asking 140 Euro. Ship from Sweden at actual cost. Cheers, Ronald
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
I did most of my film experimentation in the past decade or so with subminiature formats (Minox 8x11mm) becaust these tiny format negatives show effects of processing much more clearly than working with something even as large as 35mm, in comparative terms. Lots of experiments and precise control of process shows conclusively that agitation speeds the development of dense areas and contributes to grain growth/clumping. Leaving negatives sit in "still" developer with minimal agitation tends to slow development in dense areas (the active agents become exhausted locally, allowing development action to continue in areas with lesser exposure), and grain clumping slows quite a bit. My process for excellent Minox negatives with APX25 was to expose at EI 50, process in XTOL 1:1 at 74F and use the time from Kodak's data sheet plus 15%. Agitation is limited to 5 seconds at start, with a sharp rap to dislodge bubbles, and then *one* tip of the development tank by 20 degrees every two minutes, that tip taking 5 seconds. VERY minimal agitation like this nets about 10-20% tighter grain (eyeball estimate). Godfrey On Dec 14, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Don Sanderson wrote: I'm aware that aggressive agitation increases contrast substantially but have never heard/considered/noticed it having a pronounced effect on grain size. Could you elaborate a bit on this? and use minimal agitation to reduce grain growth.
RE: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/whatever.pdf Quote File, Schmote File! It's going on my wall!! ;-) (Thanx Ann) Don > -Original Message- > From: E.R.N. Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:51 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! > > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > (of her subjects) > > > > it is just what ever is in > >front of the camera that > >I want to look at again... > > > This is going in my quote file. >
RE: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
That's interesting, I never thought about it that way. It's the same 'local exhaustion' of the developer that will hold contrast down and prevent blocked highlights. Cool! Kinda "Zone system meets Minox". ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:35 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner > > > I did most of my film experimentation in the past decade or so with > subminiature formats (Minox 8x11mm) becaust these tiny format > negatives show effects of processing much more clearly than working > with something even as large as 35mm, in comparative terms. > > Lots of experiments and precise control of process shows conclusively > that agitation speeds the development of dense areas and contributes > to grain growth/clumping. Leaving negatives sit in "still" developer > with minimal agitation tends to slow development in dense areas (the > active agents become exhausted locally, allowing development action > to continue in areas with lesser exposure), and grain clumping slows > quite a bit. > > My process for excellent Minox negatives with APX25 was to expose at > EI 50, process in XTOL 1:1 at 74F and use the time from Kodak's data > sheet plus 15%. Agitation is limited to 5 seconds at start, with a > sharp rap to dislodge bubbles, and then *one* tip of the development > tank by 20 degrees every two minutes, that tip taking 5 seconds. VERY > minimal agitation like this nets about 10-20% tighter grain (eyeball > estimate). > > Godfrey > > > On Dec 14, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Don Sanderson wrote: > > > I'm aware that aggressive agitation increases contrast > > substantially but have never heard/considered/noticed > > it having a pronounced effect on grain size. > > Could you elaborate a bit on this? > > > >> and use minimal agitation to > >> reduce grain growth. >
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
graywolf wrote: Don't forget "and a bit of talant honed by years of experience" to go with it. Yes -- that would be a comment on her results. I read it as a comment on her choice of subject, though. E.R.N. Reed wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: (of her subjects) it is just what ever is in front of the camera that I want to look at again... This is going in my quote file.
RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment
I know there is no such thing as a "correct" tonal range. I used the word very deliberate to draw attention to the fact that we often comment out of personal preferences, not out of one objective standard. > I think overall I prefer B&W photos with a little more > contrast than Bruce, although, for the most part, I feel his color work is > great and it looks good on my monitor as well. Personally I find Bruce's work, b&w and colour, very consistent. I find the tonal ranges very similar. >From my point of view it seems it is your standards that vary from b&w to colour, not Bruce's tonal range. Correct me if I'm wrong. Right or wrong, this is very interesting ;-) Now I'm leaving for work coming back at Monday, so I think I'll better stop here. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14. desember 2005 23:04 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment > > Hi, > > I may change my opinion later. I realized that I was wearing a white > shirt, > and getting more than the usual amount of reflected light on the screen > even though the shades in the office were drawn. Now is not a good time > for me to review the photo because the sun streaming into the office is > very bright and at an angle that makes it difficult to see the screen. > > But, to answer your question, it's also a matter of monitor calibration > and > personal taste. I think overall I prefer B&W photos with a little more > contrast than Bruce, although, for the most part, I feel his color work is > great and it looks good on my monitor as well. > > There is no "correct" Tim. For the most part, the folks on this list have > got their preferences straight, know how they want their photos to look, > and are capable of presenting them in that manner. And some of us are > just > learning those things ... I've seen quite a number of original prints by > W. > Eugene Smith, who, arguably, was one of the great printers of his era. > Yet > many of his photos have a rather compressed tonal range - but it was > clearly Smith's choice to use that style of printing. He could have > printed his photos in any way he wanted, but the tonal scale he used > worked > for those photos he produced in that manner. > > Shel > " ... " > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Tim Øsleby > > > Shel says it is flat. I don't. > > I find it subtle but rich, and this is not the first time. > > > > This makes me wonder. Is it a matter of different tastes or different > > monitors? To be honest, I have no idea. > > > > What I do know is: Generally speaking, this poetic subtle richness is > one > of > > the things I admire in your work Bruce. This is something I find in most > of > > your work, whether the motif is flowers or human flowers ;-) like in > this. > > But I don't know if it is "correct" or not. I just know what I like. > > > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm > >
OT: Interesting auction...
I feel confident that no PDMLer will feel cheated if I post this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7572507947 So, if any of you folks are in the market for a "color film camera," here's your chance. Let us know how many rolls of film come with the camera, too. *>UncaMikey
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
"E.R.N. Reed" wrote: > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > (of her subjects) > > > > it is just what ever is in > >front of the camera that > >I want to look at again... > > > This is going in my quote file. LOL! finally _I said something quoteable! :) ann
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Don Sanderson wrote: > > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/whatever.pdf > > Quote File, Schmote File! > It's going on my wall!! ;-) > (Thanx Ann) > > Don The pictures? or the quote? ;) a > > > -Original Message- > > From: E.R.N. Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:51 PM > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! > > > > > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > > > (of her subjects) > > > > > > it is just what ever is in > > >front of the camera that > > >I want to look at again... > > > > > This is going in my quote file. > >
FW: PESO - A Quiet Moment
Something happened to my last post. Some formatting that made it a bit hard to read. This is how it should be: I know there is no such thing as a "correct" tonal range. I used the word very deliberate to draw attention to the fact that we often comment out of personal preferences, not out of one objective standard. > I think overall I prefer B&W photos with a little more > contrast than Bruce, although, for the most part, I feel his color work is > great and it looks good on my monitor as well. Personally I find Bruce's work, b&w and colour, very consistent. I find the tonal ranges very similar. >From my point of view it seems it is your standards that vary from b&w to colour, not Bruce's tonal range. Correct me if I'm wrong. Right or wrong, this is very interesting ;-) Now I'm leaving for work coming back at Monday, so I think I'll better stop here. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14. desember 2005 23:04 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment > > Hi, > > I may change my opinion later. I realized that I was wearing a white > shirt, > and getting more than the usual amount of reflected light on the screen > even though the shades in the office were drawn. Now is not a good time > for me to review the photo because the sun streaming into the office is > very bright and at an angle that makes it difficult to see the screen. > > But, to answer your question, it's also a matter of monitor calibration > and > personal taste. I think overall I prefer B&W photos with a little more > contrast than Bruce, although, for the most part, I feel his color work is > great and it looks good on my monitor as well. > > There is no "correct" Tim. For the most part, the folks on this list have > got their preferences straight, know how they want their photos to look, > and are capable of presenting them in that manner. And some of us are > just > learning those things ... I've seen quite a number of original prints by > W. > Eugene Smith, who, arguably, was one of the great printers of his era. > Yet > many of his photos have a rather compressed tonal range - but it was > clearly Smith's choice to use that style of printing. He could have > printed his photos in any way he wanted, but the tonal scale he used > worked > for those photos he produced in that manner. > > Shel > " ... " > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Tim Øsleby > > > Shel says it is flat. I don't. > > I find it subtle but rich, and this is not the first time. > > > > This makes me wonder. Is it a matter of different tastes or different > > monitors? To be honest, I have no idea. > > > > What I do know is: Generally speaking, this poetic subtle richness is > one > of > > the things I admire in your work Bruce. This is something I find in most > of > > your work, whether the motif is flowers or human flowers ;-) like in > this. > > But I don't know if it is "correct" or not. I just know what I like. > > > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm > >
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
"E.R.N. Reed" wrote: > > graywolf wrote: > > > Don't forget "and a bit of talant honed by years of experience" to go > > with it. > > Yes -- that would be a comment on her results. I read it as a comment on > her choice of subject, though. > you read it right.. And, hey, I can say what _he_ said about myself - even if I think it ... ann > > > > > > > > E.R.N. Reed wrote: > > > >> Ann Sanfedele wrote: > >> > >>> (of her subjects) > >>> > >>> it is just what ever is in > >>> front of the camera that I want to look at again... > >> > >> > >> This is going in my quote file. > >> > >> > > > > > >
Re: Grand Canyon
Don Sanderson wrote: > > I'm not as bad as you. > 6 big guys and some strong tranquilisers > and they might get me out there. > If they could stand the screaming. ;-( > > Don (8 feet up is my limit.) I cound stand a few feet back from the edge of a cliff or mountainside, and, with some trepedation, drive up a narrow mountain road... but just seeing that glass thingy hang out over a chasm... w ... no thank u ann > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:10 PM > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: Grand Canyon > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:58:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Hmm... :-) I realize it may not be the right aesthetic, but I > > would quite > > > like to stand on it and look down through it if it's built. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > = > > > Count me out. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marnie aka Doe > > > > what she said > > ann > >
RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment
Same error again. Bare with me, I'm to tired to correct it. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15. desember 2005 01:37 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: FW: PESO - A Quiet Moment > > Something happened to my last post. Some formatting that made it a bit > hard > to read. This is how it should be: > > I know there is no such thing as a "correct" tonal range. I used the word > very deliberate to draw attention to the fact that we often comment out of > personal preferences, not out of one objective standard. > > > I think overall I prefer B&W photos with a little more > > contrast than Bruce, although, for the most part, I feel his color work > is > > great and it looks good on my monitor as well. > > Personally I find Bruce's work, b&w and colour, very consistent. I find > the > tonal ranges very similar. > > >From my point of view it seems it is your standards that vary from b&w to > colour, not Bruce's tonal range. Correct me if I'm wrong. > Right or wrong, this is very interesting ;-) > > Now I'm leaving for work coming back at Monday, so I think I'll better > stop > here. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 14. desember 2005 23:04 > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: RE: PESO - A Quiet Moment > > > > Hi, > > > > I may change my opinion later. I realized that I was wearing a white > > shirt, > > and getting more than the usual amount of reflected light on the screen > > even though the shades in the office were drawn. Now is not a good time > > for me to review the photo because the sun streaming into the office is > > very bright and at an angle that makes it difficult to see the screen. > > > > But, to answer your question, it's also a matter of monitor calibration > > and > > personal taste. I think overall I prefer B&W photos with a little more > > contrast than Bruce, although, for the most part, I feel his color work > is > > great and it looks good on my monitor as well. > > > > There is no "correct" Tim. For the most part, the folks on this list > have > > got their preferences straight, know how they want their photos to look, > > and are capable of presenting them in that manner. And some of us are > > just > > learning those things ... I've seen quite a number of original prints by > > W. > > Eugene Smith, who, arguably, was one of the great printers of his era. > > Yet > > many of his photos have a rather compressed tonal range - but it was > > clearly Smith's choice to use that style of printing. He could have > > printed his photos in any way he wanted, but the tonal scale he used > > worked > > for those photos he produced in that manner. > > > > Shel > > " ... " > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Tim Øsleby > > > > > Shel says it is flat. I don't. > > > I find it subtle but rich, and this is not the first time. > > > > > > This makes me wonder. Is it a matter of different tastes or different > > > monitors? To be honest, I have no idea. > > > > > > What I do know is: Generally speaking, this poetic subtle richness is > > one > > of > > > the things I admire in your work Bruce. This is something I find in > most > > of > > > your work, whether the motif is flowers or human flowers ;-) like in > > this. > > > But I don't know if it is "correct" or not. I just know what I like. > > > > > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/moss_025bw.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Well, hows about I put the Quote on my wall, and order a CD?? Don > -Original Message- > From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:37 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! > > > Don Sanderson wrote: > > > > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/whatever.pdf > > > > Quote File, Schmote File! > > It's going on my wall!! ;-) > > (Thanx Ann) > > > > Don > > The pictures? or the quote? ;) > a > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: E.R.N. Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:51 PM > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Subject: Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! > > > > > > > > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > > > > > (of her subjects) > > > > > > > > it is just what ever is in > > > >front of the camera that > > > >I want to look at again... > > > > > > > This is going in my quote file. > > > >
