Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread mike wilson
Anyone got any experience with the above, or the WP?

mike


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RE: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Bob W
Good question. I don't know. I haven't taken much of a look at any of those
you list. I've flicked through Jeff Bridges' book, and was quite impressed.
Yul Brynner had a book published didn't he? I don't remember any of his
pictures though. I think I saw some of Dennis Hopper's in a Sunday suplement
last year, and enjoyed them but again, I don't remember any of them.

Apart from Helena Christensen, all those you've listed are in the quality
end of the film industry, so by virtue of that they are highly
visually-oriented and probably very intelligent. But HC is also in a very
visual industry, and I think she has more than the normal model's allocation
of grey matter. That makes it hardly surprising that they should be good
photographers.

It's when members of Spinal Tap start to get ideas above their station that
things get embarrassing.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 20 January 2006 01:15
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)
 
 
 
 Yep, I agree. He's no Mapplethorpe.
 
 Which celeb photogs do you like? Some celebs photogs that work for me:
 
 David Lynch
 Jeff Bridges
 Dennis Hopper
 Isabella Rossellini
 
 Maybe Helena Christensen (although that might be for other reasons)
 
 D



Re: Archiving DVDs followup

2006-01-20 Thread David Mann

On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:39 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


How about one copy at work and one copy at home.  Regards,  Bob S.


Home is work :)

Going back a couple of years, I had an important project that I  
didn't want to risk losing.  Whenever I worked on it, the next day I  
carried the files to work on a floppy disk and copied them onto the  
hard drive of my work computer.  I also ftp'd them to a US-based server.


I figured that if I lost all three copies at once, it'd probably be  
the apocalypse and I'd have far bigger things to worry about.


- Dave



Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread Cotty
On 19/1/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

Here's some on Canon's L glass:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d/page22.asp

That shows definite vignetting/fall off on the 5D that doesn't exist on 
the 20d (As the problem areas are off the sensor).

You ever shoot any film?

You remind me of a friend I have. He's constantly on the phone to me
comparing results from cameras. He calls me with two images on his PC
display, side by side, each blown up to 8000% (btw that's a joke) and
he's telling me that camera Y is marginally better than camera X because
of [unknown argument deleted]. He tells me all the scientific technical
stuff, and I'm like fitting the noose around my neck getting ready, and
he ends up by asking me in desperation which one he should get. I don't
know how many times he's swapped and changed gear. If he ever made it to
a photographic gallery they'd be wiping nose-marks off the prints, bless him.

Adam, I don't think we're in the same wormhole mate. Good luck with your
edge performance ;-)


Another example, this one on a EOS 3, with the EF 28-105 f3.5-4.5 USM II 
wide open at 28mm on Acros 100:

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=85917538size=l

It's asking me to join FuckR and there is more chance of me dining with Elvis.


This shows off distortion that would be out of the frame on a 1.6 crop 
camera and possibly on a 1.3 crop camera. This is my own shot btw. The 
full resolution scan shows mild CA and distinct softening at the edges, 
but it's not particularly visible on this shot because of camera shake. 
On a 5D, which is more sensitive to edge performance than film is (For 
the reasons Rob noted in his response to me) I'd expect this zoom's 
weaknesses to be more apparent. Don't get me wrong, considering the 
cost, the 28-105's a great lens (I'd consider it at twice the price) but 
I'd hesitate to use it on a 5D unless it was stopped down and not at the 
wide end of the zoom. The 28-105 is pretty comparable performance-wise 
to the 28-135, it just lacks IS and the extra length on the tele end.

I don't use such lenses and have no intention to.




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Re: Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
mike wilson wrote on 20.01.06 9:10:

 Anyone got any experience with the above, or the WP?
Not exactly with WP, but with older 33WR. A LOT OF FUN!!! We took many
photos underwater in Red Sea with my friend - no problems at all, I used it
many times at pools - preformed very good, attracting people's attention ;-)
And I think good digicam should be like that - you don't have to worry even
in dust/dirt/water. What's the fun with digicam if you have to worry about
it all the time? ;-) WPi has higher JIS class, meaning that it is even more
water resistant than 33WR, so you can't go wrong with it!

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread Dario Bonazza
And the WP has a very good lens too! Comparing it to Optio S6, Optio SV, and 
Optio 60 (same pictures in same situation), those taken with the WP were the 
best of the bunch.


Dario

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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Optio WPi



mike wilson wrote on 20.01.06 9:10:


Anyone got any experience with the above, or the WP?

Not exactly with WP, but with older 33WR. A LOT OF FUN!!! We took many
photos underwater in Red Sea with my friend - no problems at all, I used 
it
many times at pools - preformed very good, attracting people's attention 
;-)
And I think good digicam should be like that - you don't have to worry 
even

in dust/dirt/water. What's the fun with digicam if you have to worry about
it all the time? ;-) WPi has higher JIS class, meaning that it is even 
more

water resistant than 33WR, so you can't go wrong with it!

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek





Re: Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 20.01.06 10:42:

 And the WP has a very good lens too! Comparing it to Optio S6, Optio SV, and
 Optio 60 (same pictures in same situation), those taken with the WP were the
 best of the bunch.
I haven't compared them, but I know that WR has very good macro too :-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: FS Friday: Almaz 103, Soviet K-mount F2 copy

2006-01-20 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:12:24 +0100 schreef Paul Ewins  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


snip

I had thought of putting a Nikon prism on it and then mounting my 77  
limited on it to confuse Nikon shooters, but an F2 metered prism seems  
to cost more than the camera is worth so I have given up on that.


snip

grin and the look on their faces is not worth the price of the prism?

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Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

2006-01-20 Thread Derby Chang

Bob Shell wrote:


On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

Lou Reed is a curmudgeonly grumpy, but I like him. He has an amusing 
interview on Salon this week.


http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2006/01/19/lou_reed/index.html
(you'll get a quick ad if you aren't a member of Salon)



I was supposed to interview him about four years ago for Zoom 
magazine.  We sent e-mails back and forth for weeks, but by the time 
he finished sending me a list of things I could not ask about or 
mention, there wasn't much left and I lost interest (main thing was 
absolutely no mention of Warhol, or those days).  Of course he didn't 
have a show/book to promote at that time!  Apparently that makes a big 
difference.


Bob




Yes, he's an ornery bstrd, no doubt. But I like my rock gods like 
pretzels, salty and crusty.


Gosh, not only am I practically 2 degrees of separation from Lou Reed, 
but I'm chatting with Bob Shell. Bob, for months I thought I'd lost that 
Mamiya7 insert for your Mamiya book, which I love. But just last week, I 
found it amongst some old Shutterbug mags I was just about to recycle. 
Go figure. And phew.


D

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Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Christian wrote:


Pentax e  Samsung is commited
to the APS-C or whatever sensor


Unfair, unless you can prove, or even have indication that when Pentax 
announced their commitment to APS-C, they were already in bed with 
Samsung.


Kostas



Re: Re: Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/20 Fri AM 09:24:54 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Optio WPi
 
 mike wilson wrote on 20.01.06 9:10:
 
  Anyone got any experience with the above, or the WP?
 Not exactly with WP, but with older 33WR. A LOT OF FUN!!! We took many
 photos underwater in Red Sea with my friend - no problems at all, I used it
 many times at pools - preformed very good, attracting people's attention ;-)
 And I think good digicam should be like that - you don't have to worry even
 in dust/dirt/water. What's the fun with digicam if you have to worry about
 it all the time? ;-) WPi has higher JIS class, meaning that it is even more
 water resistant than 33WR, so you can't go wrong with it!

That's what I wanted to hear.  It's for work, to be used by some educationally 
challenged people outdoors in occasionally muddy and wet conditions, so it 
needs to be really robust.  My choice would have been a Zoom90WR but, of 
course, it _has_ to be digital for management to think it deserves purchase.  
This thing is going to have a hard (and, I suspect, short) life.

mike


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Re: Re: Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/20 Fri AM 09:42:56 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Optio WPi
 
 And the WP has a very good lens too! Comparing it to Optio S6, Optio SV, and 
 Optio 60 (same pictures in same situation), those taken with the WP were the 
 best of the bunch.
 
 Dario

Thanks.  Is the only difference between the WP and the WPI the number of pixels?

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:24 AM
 Subject: Re: Optio WPi
 
 
  mike wilson wrote on 20.01.06 9:10:
 
  Anyone got any experience with the above, or the WP?
  Not exactly with WP, but with older 33WR. A LOT OF FUN!!! We took many
  photos underwater in Red Sea with my friend - no problems at all, I used 
  it
  many times at pools - preformed very good, attracting people's attention 
  ;-)
  And I think good digicam should be like that - you don't have to worry 
  even
  in dust/dirt/water. What's the fun with digicam if you have to worry about
  it all the time? ;-) WPi has higher JIS class, meaning that it is even 
  more
  water resistant than 33WR, so you can't go wrong with it!
 
  -- 
  Balance is the ultimate good...
 
  Best Regards
  Sylwek
  
 
 


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Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Derby Chang


I think a big part of the celeb photog is that they have entree into an 
inside world. Hopper's pics are a good example. That's not to say they 
aren't accomplished. But they are piquant.

http://www.eyestorm.com/artist/Dennis_Hopper.aspx

David Lynch of course is something else. I was bidding for his out of 
print Images book a while back, but backed out when it got outrageous. 
Amazingly the next month I found a copy for next to nix in a cool 2nd 
hand book shop we have here, Berkelouw (there is a branch in LA too). Fate.

http://tinyurl.com/94wuw

Jeff Bridges I started looking at because I just got a swing lens camera 
(Horizon). He has some tasty pics on his site.

http://www.jeffbridges.com/
Mmmm...Michelle
http://www.jeffbridges.com/FB_04.html

And I have Rossellini's book. Not groundbreaking stuff, but really 
balanced and refined.


I agree with you, Bob. They are all visually oriented. Who can I think 
of who photographs and writes, or sings? Hmm.




Bob W wrote:

Good question. I don't know. I haven't taken much of a look at any of those
you list. I've flicked through Jeff Bridges' book, and was quite impressed.
Yul Brynner had a book published didn't he? I don't remember any of his
pictures though. I think I saw some of Dennis Hopper's in a Sunday suplement
last year, and enjoyed them but again, I don't remember any of them.

Apart from Helena Christensen, all those you've listed are in the quality
end of the film industry, so by virtue of that they are highly
visually-oriented and probably very intelligent. But HC is also in a very
visual industry, and I think she has more than the normal model's allocation
of grey matter. That makes it hardly surprising that they should be good
photographers.

It's when members of Spinal Tap start to get ideas above their station that
things get embarrassing.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

  

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Sent: 20 January 2006 01:15

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)



Yep, I agree. He's no Mapplethorpe.

Which celeb photogs do you like? Some celebs photogs that work for me:

David Lynch
Jeff Bridges
Dennis Hopper
Isabella Rossellini

Maybe Helena Christensen (although that might be for other reasons)

D




  



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Re: Re: Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/20 Fri AM 09:47:43 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Optio WPi
 
 Dario Bonazza wrote on 20.01.06 10:42:
 
  And the WP has a very good lens too! Comparing it to Optio S6, Optio SV, and
  Optio 60 (same pictures in same situation), those taken with the WP were the
  best of the bunch.
 I haven't compared them, but I know that WR has very good macro too :-)

U.  Nightscene, Fireworks, Panorama, Flowers, Portrait, Self-portrait, 
Candlelight, Marine, Pets, Museum, Sport, Food, Surfsnow, soft, Landscape, 
Natural skin tone.  No macro...  Unless you have fleas, then maybe it would 
come under Pets.  Wonder if you can use Natural skin tone on an albino, or 
if you have to use Snowsurf?

Found it; under focusing.  How illogical.

OK, here's another question.  File formats: Jpeg (OK), DCF, DPOF, PIMII? 

mike


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Re: Very long adorama order

2006-01-20 Thread Derby Chang


:) OK,

Let's try an experiment. I'll put an order in for this:

http://tinyurl.com/dze9l

no, don't really. I'm only joking

D


Juey Chong Ong wrote:

Hi Derby:

Place an order next time and I'll walk into the store and buy the same 
thing.
If they put yours on backorder and delay shipment, you know what 
happened. :-)


--jc



On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Perry Pellechia wrote:


Derby,
While my experience was not as long and drawn out as yours, I had an
order that took longer than it should have and I had to call to find
out what was going on.  About a year ago I ordered a used lens and got
the same excuse that it was not working correctly after waiting for it
for over a week.  In your case I believe that what really happened is
that they sold the F300/4.5 to someone else.   Perhaps it was a
walk-in sale or a phone order came in first.  Either way they did not
have it any longer.  It does not make any sense that the lens was not
in working condition.  I am sure they tested it pretty well before
they bought it from another individual.

I am also guessing that the FA50 macro was sold to someone else before
they could ship the second order.  So they used excuse number 2 (lost
in shipment).   I think that as long as the item is on the shelf,
first with cash will get it.  So walk in sales will get the item if it
had not been pack and shipped.  This is only my gut feeling about
Adorama. I have no proof of this.


Perry.


On 1/9/06, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Adorama has been more than ok for me in the past. But my recent order
was pretty tortuous.

* 20 Oct - I place an order for an FA50mm macro, and an F300/4.5 from
the used department.

* The order is placed in the middle of a Jewish holiday. That's fine,
that was well signposted on their homepage. No more progress until 
Oct 26.


* After the holiday, Adorama shuts down to put in a new ordering 
system.

Sigh. Still no progress.

* Nov 2 - I receive an email saying the F300 doesn't seem to be 
working,

so they take it off the order. I agree with that, except I would have
liked the option to take it as is, get a price break, and see if I can
get it fixed locally. Oh well. I add a Sigma EX DG 20/1.8 to make the
order worthwhile (I don't really need the 50mm but I figured it 
might be

a nice walking around lens). The speed of the Sigma intrigues me, and
I've read good things about it.

* A rep (Tobias) emails me politely that day and tells me that they 
have

combined the order successfully. I wait.

* Nov 14. I receive a very terse email from Jack (and I quote the
capitals...)  Hi, Derby, PLEASE Call US. I email back asking what is
the problem. No reply.

* Nov 16 - I much prefer emailing because of the time difference from
Sydney, but after a few phone chases, I finally reach Jack. He tells me
the FA50 and the Sigma were lost in transit (!). I don't understand
because I can still see the FA50 on the website. Anyway, he says they
can send a replacement Sigma but it is on back order. I reluctantly 
agree.


* Nov 23 - I email back asking if there is an update. No reply

* Dec 11 - Still no reply. I send another email asking for an update.
This time I say if it isn't likely to be available by Xmas, I'd like to
cancel my order. The FA50 is mysteriously still listed on the website.

* Dec 12 - I receive another terse email from Jack.

WE HAVE TRY'D CALLING YOU
IN REFRENCE TO YOUR EMAIL
PLEASE CALL US BACK
THANKS MUCH

Adorama should have both my home and work number. If they called at
home, they could have left a message. If they called at work, they 
would
have gotten Reception, and also leave a message. I received no 
messages.


* Dec 12-14 - I call a few times, but only get Jack's voicemail.

* Dec 14 - I finally get an email from Jack - STILL ON BACK ORDER

* Jan 04 - Finally, an automated shipping notice saying the Sigma is on
its way pops in my Inbox.

* Jan 9 (today) - I get the lens in my hands.

Now, I'm not griping about the two holidays and the stocktake downtime.
But the responsiveness of the customer service leaves something to be
desired.

Has anyone else had this experience from Adorama recently?

Derby



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Re: Re: Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread Dario Bonazza

Yessir!

Dario

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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Optio WPi






From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/20 Fri AM 09:42:56 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Optio WPi

And the WP has a very good lens too! Comparing it to Optio S6, Optio SV, 
and
Optio 60 (same pictures in same situation), those taken with the WP were 
the

best of the bunch.

Dario


Thanks.  Is the only difference between the WP and the WPI the number of 
pixels?




- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Optio WPi


 mike wilson wrote on 20.01.06 9:10:

 Anyone got any experience with the above, or the WP?
 Not exactly with WP, but with older 33WR. A LOT OF FUN!!! We took many
 photos underwater in Red Sea with my friend - no problems at all, I 
 used

 it
 many times at pools - preformed very good, attracting people's 
 attention

 ;-)
 And I think good digicam should be like that - you don't have to worry
 even
 in dust/dirt/water. What's the fun with digicam if you have to worry 
 about

 it all the time? ;-) WPi has higher JIS class, meaning that it is even
 more
 water resistant than 33WR, so you can't go wrong with it!

 -- 
 Balance is the ultimate good...


 Best Regards
 Sylwek






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Re: Pentax lens rebates

2006-01-20 Thread Mark Stringer
I would submit it on your form.  I think rebates are handled by rebate 
handling companies, experts in scanning for deficiencies.  If you are in 
compliance with the form you submit, I don't think you will be denied, 
assuming you meet all the other criteria.


I never actually submitted mine.  As I was completing the form I noticed I 
was 35 days out and calmly put it away.  I didn't want to get twisted off 
over it.  I'm not a big believer in rebates.  I like the lens, I didn't 
follow the rules, and now I find I would have probably sent in the wrong 
label anyway.  If you have gotten 90% of the rebates you have ever sent in 
you have done well.  I've seen the 30 day rule before.  It is a new catch.


I was looking at a 300 gig Seagate USB a few weeks ago at Best Buy.  It was 
a great final price. It had a minimal instant rebate (at the cash 
register), a Best Buy rebate, and a Seagate rebate.  I passed.  I wish there 
were statistics available on actual rebates paid for a promotion so buyers 
could see who has the best record paying rebates and consider that in their 
purchase decision.  I have seen some manufacturers rebates that you can 
monitor and even file online without having to send in boxtops (Toshiba 
laptop I think).  Those are okay.


I got my big rebate from Pentax (on the istD  lens a year or more ago). 
Usually I don't even keep copies of rebates I send in.  If a check shows up 
great.  I'm not rich but I am at a stress reducing point in my life.


Good luck.

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From: Pat Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax lens rebates


It looks as if Mark  Amita both were denied rebates.  Has this happened 
to

anyone else?  What reason was given?

Thanks,
Pat in SF

--- Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just wait 30 days to submit the rebate and it won't matter what you send.
30 days after the receipt date and it is void.  That is what I did and 
now I

don't have to wonder about the status of my rebate.







Re: Re: Optio WPi

2006-01-20 Thread mike wilson
Thank you.
 
 From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/20 Fri AM 11:17:51 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Re: Optio WPi
 
 Yessir!
 
 Dario
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: Optio WPi
 
 
 
 
  From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2006/01/20 Fri AM 09:42:56 GMT
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Optio WPi
 
  And the WP has a very good lens too! Comparing it to Optio S6, Optio SV, 
  and
  Optio 60 (same pictures in same situation), those taken with the WP were 
  the
  best of the bunch.
 
  Dario
 
  Thanks.  Is the only difference between the WP and the WPI the number of 
  pixels?
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Optio WPi
 
 
   mike wilson wrote on 20.01.06 9:10:
  
   Anyone got any experience with the above, or the WP?
   Not exactly with WP, but with older 33WR. A LOT OF FUN!!! We took many
   photos underwater in Red Sea with my friend - no problems at all, I 
   used
   it
   many times at pools - preformed very good, attracting people's 
   attention
   ;-)
   And I think good digicam should be like that - you don't have to worry
   even
   in dust/dirt/water. What's the fun with digicam if you have to worry 
   about
   it all the time? ;-) WPi has higher JIS class, meaning that it is even
   more
   water resistant than 33WR, so you can't go wrong with it!
  
   -- 
   Balance is the ultimate good...
  
   Best Regards
   Sylwek
  
 
 
 
 
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Re: Does anyone know how to get a PK-R lens out of a PK-AF2 mount?

2006-01-20 Thread Cory Papenfuss

Get rid of the little pin with crazy glue or a pair of pliers and the lens
will work fine.


	I've modified a couple of my lenses and *removed* the pin 
entirely.  On some of them, it's easy to take off the rear flange and 
remove the pin/resistor combination.  They're usually held on with a 
single screw.


	I was going to do that on my VS1 (generation 3) until I 
realized it was close to impossible to get the rear flange apart.  Also, 
when in the 'A' position, it retracts so I didnt' need to.


-Cory

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Re: FS Friday: Almaz 103, Soviet K-mount F2 copy

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 20, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Paul Ewins wrote:


Hi folks,
I've been spending a bit too much on LF stuff recently so need to
sell something.

As the title says, the Almaz 103 is a Soviet copy (made by LOMO) of  
the

Nikon F2, but using a K-mount. They are uncommon and this one is in
outstanding condition, with no dings or brassing and only the  
faintest of

scratches on the bottom plate.

I collect Russian/Ukrainian cameras and have learned quite a bit  
about them over the years.  I also own and moderate the Russian  
Cameras User's Group.  I invite you to come join us there and post  
your for sale notice.  you could not find a more targeted audience.   
You will find us here:


http://www.beststuff.com/forum/index.php?f=3

I have three Almaz 103 cameras, and have bought and sold a number of  
them.  A friend of mine in St. Petersburg finds them for me.  That's  
where they were made, starting around 1980.


The camera is NOT a copy of the Nikon F2, or for that matter any  
other camera.  The prism shape was modeled after the Nikon F2, but  
the body was actually modeled after the Minolta XK.  It has a Russian  
version of K mount that is not identical to the Pentax version.  Some  
other K mount lenses will fit, some won't.  Almaz lenses typically  
won't fit or work properly on other K mount bodies.   The Almaz has a  
unique metal blade shutter somewhat like a Copal Square, but not  
identical in actuation.  There is a motor drive coupling on the  
camera, but the motor never made it past prototype.


There were several versions of Almaz (Diamond in Russian).  All are  
absolutely identical except for the prism.  The 103 is common and has  
no meter.  The 102 is very rare and has two diodes to indicate  
exposure.  There were two other meter variations, but only three or  
four of each were made.  There were also three different focusing  
screens made for the camera, as well as a hot shoe adapter that slips  
over the rewind knob.


I think the Almaz is the best built of all the Russian/Ukrainian SLR  
cameras.  They were made for use by professional photographers.


The camera has one near-fatal flaw, though.  If you set and trip the  
self timer without first cocking the shutter the camera will lock up  
tight.  It can only be unjammed by disassembling it.  This is why  
most of the ones you find for sale have rumpled leatherette on the  
self timer side of the camera.  I have seen a few with a small screw  
added to the front to block the self timer lever so it can't be used,  
and a few with the self timer lever completely removed.


The prism (non-meter) is removable but I don't have any Nikon F2  
prisms to
check whether a meter prism would fit. Likewise, the screens are  
replaceable
and it comes with two spare screens in the original plastic cases.  
The back

is removable and it has connections for a motor drive but I don't know
whether it is a close enough copy to use Nikon versions.



Nikon prisms, screens, motor drive, etc., do not fit the Almaz.  I  
believe that Minolta XK screens will fit.


I'm yet to put a film through, but would happily do that for  
prospective
buyers if you want it for more than shelf ornament. I had thought  
of putting
a Nikon prism on it and then mounting my 77 limited on it to  
confuse Nikon
shooters, but an F2 metered prism seems to cost more than the  
camera is

worth so I have given up on that.


You may find if you try that the 77 ltd won't fit properly.  The  
mount is not identical to Pentax K.




I'm asking US$170 plus postage. I live in Australia so postage will  
be $20

(sea-mail) or $30 (air-mail) to most destinations.


That's a fair price for a good one.  I've shot pictures with mine and  
the normal lens is first rate.

Best of luck in finding a buyer.

Bob



Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread Mishka
so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real soon?

best,
mishka

On 1/20/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Mishka
 Subject: Re: Konica-Minolta


  isn't it why we haven't heard from Herb for a while?

 I believe Herb has decided to switch brands, and I suspect mail lists as
 well.

 William Robb






Friday FS: for those still using film

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell
I'm selling my stock of Agfa sheet film, my excess stock of Rodinal,  
and a bunch of other darkroom chemicals.  Rodinal is here:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
ViewItemitem=7582925869ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:US:8


Click on the link to my other auctions to see all of the other  
darkroom goodies I'm selling.


Bob



OT: Capa Doc

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
Our local educational channel, TVO showed Robert Capa in Love and War
last night.  Terrific documentary.  I just wish they wouldn't have put
it on at 10pm;  I'm freaking tired this morning (but it was worth it).

Some exciting highlights:

1)  Seeing lots of photos of him, I was reminded that he has a
unibrow (ie:  his thick eyebrows actually join in the middle to form
one large eyebrow, just like Frida Kahlo).  People who've met me or
seen photos of me will understand my excitement LOL.

2)  Several clips were shown of God, er, HCB.  I'd never actually
heard him speak before.  It was a religious experience for me.

3)  After the WWII, Capa lived for a short period in Los Angeles, and
had a brief fling with gasp! Ingrid Bergman.  Some of you may know
that IMHO, after Audrey Hepburn, Ingrid Bergman is the most beautiful
woman in the history of the world, full stop.  I was not aware of this
affair until last night.  As an added bonus, the beautiful Isabella
Rossolini was interviewed in the doc.

4)  I know it was mentioned here before (perhaps by Shel?) that the
Jimmy Stewart character in Rear Window was sort of based loosely on
Capa, and was Hitchcock's sly reference to this affair.

Lots of other juicy tidbits, and overall, the doc was very well done. 
I highly recommend it.

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: GFM - Can't Make It This Year

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You keep that up and you will be -frank the bruised  ;-P

 Did I mention the track bike came in?


Get out!!

Write me off list and tell me all about it!!

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



ACR 3.3 released. Support for DL / Ds2

2006-01-20 Thread brooksdj
As reported on the Nikond1 BB this mornming. Mac and Windows version apparently.

Dave  

Support for the following cameras added

• Canon EOS 5D
• Canon EOS 1D Mark II N
• Canon EOS 20Da
• Kodak EasyShare P850
• Kodak EasyShare P880
• Fujifilm FinePix E900
• Fujifilm FinePix S5200/5600
• Fujifilm FinePix S9000/9500
• Mamiya ZD
• Nikon D200
• Olympus E-500
• Olympus SP-310
• Olympus SP-350
• Olympus SP-500UZ
• Pentax *ist DL
• Pentax *ist DS2
• Sony DSC-R1 

Update includes
- Improved redraw speed at some zoom levels.
- Added warning dialogs when attempting to cancel or reset the dialog when 
there are
changes to non-
selected images.
- Tuned Bayer demosaic algorithms.
- Fixed DNG decoding for some camera models.
- Write legacy IPTC data block (in addition to the existing XMP data block) 
to TIFF,
JPEG, and PSD files 
saved directly.







Re: Columbus PDML PreBay

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am glad to be of service.  Hey, if I don't feed you the lines who will?

 César
 Panama City, Florida

Love ya, buddy!!

vbg

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Pentax lens rebates

2006-01-20 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Mark Stringer wrote:



I was looking at a 300 gig Seagate USB a few weeks ago at Best Buy.  
It was a great final price. It had a minimal instant rebate (at the 
cash register), a Best Buy rebate, and a Seagate rebate.  I passed.  I 
wish there were statistics available on actual rebates paid for a 
promotion so buyers could see who has the best record paying rebates 
and consider that in their purchase decision.  I have seen some 
manufacturers rebates that you can monitor and even file online 
without having to send in boxtops (Toshiba laptop I think).  Those 
are okay. 


I haven't seen statistics, but I usually remember to send for my 
rebates, and I get them -- 'specially from Best Buy!
I think it's particularly cool that at Best Buy, they automatically 
provide you with a duplicate receipt to send in with the rebate coupon 
(which they also automatically provide) -- thus making the process about 
as easy as they can at their end.
(My mother is still waiting for a rebate from Corel, submitted quite 
some time ago. In the time since that rebate paperwork was submitted, 
I've bought two SanDisk cards from Best Buy, sent in the forms, received 
the rebates and spent the money.)


ERNR




Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Mishka wrote:


so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real soon?


Ssshhh!

whisper
Don't tell Herb!
/whisper

Kostas (who actually misses Herb's financial analyses)



Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Maas
And 1.5x or 1.6x crop sensors aren't even really APS-C. It's a 
convenient shorthand that most people use to define the common sensor 
sizes. You're picking nits.


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

The Canon D doesn't have and APS-H size sensor.  The aspect ratio is 
the same as APS-C or 35mm.  APS-H is a wider view horizontally.


Adam Maas wrote:


John Forbes wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:43:17 -, Christian 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:



Adam Maas wrote:


Nikon is doing 12.4MP in APS-C, that's the sensor in the D2x.
 -Adam





Sorry, I always forget about that one.  And it is supposed to have  
really good noise properties too.





It seems to me that there is no good reason why Samsung, or anybody 
else,  can't produce a sensor which is half-way in size between 
APS-C and 35mm  (24x36).  This would be about 50% bigger than APS-C 
but would still, I  think, allow all Pentax DA lenses to be used 
without vignetting.  Crop  factor would be around 1.3.


If Nikon can squeeze excellent results out of an APS-C sensor with 
12.4  Mpixels, a 50% bigger sensor should be able to manage
around 18 mpixels, and will make the new 12-24mm zoom equivalent to  
16-31mm on 35mm, which is pretty good.


It would still be considerably cheaper to make than a full-frame 
sensor.


That's what I would be aiming to do if I were running 
Pentax/Samsung.  But  of course, I'm not.


JOhn




APS-H, a la Canon 1D and Kodak DCS760.

But there is a major disadvantage. Wide angle lenses lose their wide, 
and you can't use any of the 'digital wides' except the generally 
poor performing Sigma 12-24 because of coverage problems as they 
don't cover APS-H at the wide end. The 1.3x crop size also is more 
susceptible to poor edge performance that is avoided with the APS-C 
cameras and plagues full-frame (Consumer lenses are generally 
unusable on Full Frame cameras because of how apparent their 
weaknesses become).


-Adam









RE: Capa Doc

2006-01-20 Thread Bob W
I second your recommendation. Frank, if you didn't know about Capa and
Bergman then you really need to read Robert Capa by Whelan, and Blood and
Champagne by Kershaw. It won't do you any harm at all to read Slightly Out
of Focus by Capa himself, either. The title of the book may appeal to you
especially.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 20 January 2006 12:57
 To: PDML
 Subject: OT: Capa Doc
 
 Our local educational channel, TVO showed Robert Capa in Love 
 and War last night.  Terrific documentary.  I just wish they 
 wouldn't have put it on at 10pm;  I'm freaking tired this 
 morning (but it was worth it).
 
 Some exciting highlights:
 
 1)  Seeing lots of photos of him, I was reminded that he has 
 a unibrow (ie:  his thick eyebrows actually join in the 
 middle to form one large eyebrow, just like Frida Kahlo).  
 People who've met me or seen photos of me will understand my 
 excitement LOL.
 
 2)  Several clips were shown of God, er, HCB.  I'd never 
 actually heard him speak before.  It was a religious 
 experience for me.
 
 3)  After the WWII, Capa lived for a short period in Los 
 Angeles, and had a brief fling with gasp! Ingrid Bergman.  
 Some of you may know that IMHO, after Audrey Hepburn, Ingrid 
 Bergman is the most beautiful woman in the history of the 
 world, full stop.  I was not aware of this affair until last 
 night.  As an added bonus, the beautiful Isabella Rossolini 
 was interviewed in the doc.
 
 4)  I know it was mentioned here before (perhaps by Shel?) 
 that the Jimmy Stewart character in Rear Window was sort of 
 based loosely on Capa, and was Hitchcock's sly reference to 
 this affair.
 
 Lots of other juicy tidbits, and overall, the doc was very well done. 
 I highly recommend it.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 
 
 



Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Mishka




so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real soon?


Nah, he's singlehandedly keeping them afloat with lens purchases.

William Robb



Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Maas


Interspersed.

Cotty wrote:


On 19/1/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


Here's some on Canon's L glass:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d/page22.asp

That shows definite vignetting/fall off on the 5D that doesn't exist on 
the 20d (As the problem areas are off the sensor).
   



You ever shoot any film?
 



Did you even read my post? The second link was film  and shot by me. 
Acros 100 to be exact. I've got a dozen rolls through that camera in the 
week I've had it. Yeah, I pixel-peep a little, but I shoot a hell of a 
lot more than I pixel-peep. Personally, I don't care about vignetting (I 
can fix it in PS if I have to), that doesn't mean it should be ignored 
as some people will care. I do care about edge performance and anything 
that makes it worse is an issue for me (Although I care about other 
things more, I'd be shooting a 5D if it was in the budget, even with the 
edge performance issues).



You remind me of a friend I have. He's constantly on the phone to me
comparing results from cameras. He calls me with two images on his PC
display, side by side, each blown up to 8000% (btw that's a joke) and
he's telling me that camera Y is marginally better than camera X because
of [unknown argument deleted]. He tells me all the scientific technical
stuff, and I'm like fitting the noose around my neck getting ready, and
he ends up by asking me in desperation which one he should get. I don't
know how many times he's swapped and changed gear. If he ever made it to
a photographic gallery they'd be wiping nose-marks off the prints, bless him.
 



So I post a couple shots that show definite, but not show-stopping, 
performance issues with full-frame (Film and Digital) that don't exist 
with 35mm lenses on 1.6x crop camera, to answer your question about 
whether or not I had any data on the issue, and you wander off into 
irrelevant stories. Hell, it wasn't even the reason I dumped my D (That 
came down to wanting to be able to share gear with the other people in 
my camera club, who are mostly Canon shooters).



Adam, I don't think we're in the same wormhole mate. Good luck with your
edge performance ;-)
 



I like my prints to look as sharp at the edge as at the middle, I don't 
like distortion most of the time. And it's more visible on FF digital 
than on film. So sue me.


 

Another example, this one on a EOS 3, with the EF 28-105 f3.5-4.5 USM II 
wide open at 28mm on Acros 100:


http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=85917538size=l
   



It's asking me to join FuckR and there is more chance of me dining with Elvis.
 



You don't need to join to see that shot.  Just look at the damned shot 
instead of whinging about my choice of photo hosts.


Here's the direct link to the JPEG.

http://static.flickr.com/40/85917538_35f5c4770f_b.jpg

 

This shows off distortion that would be out of the frame on a 1.6 crop 
camera and possibly on a 1.3 crop camera. This is my own shot btw. The 
full resolution scan shows mild CA and distinct softening at the edges, 
but it's not particularly visible on this shot because of camera shake. 
On a 5D, which is more sensitive to edge performance than film is (For 
the reasons Rob noted in his response to me) I'd expect this zoom's 
weaknesses to be more apparent. Don't get me wrong, considering the 
cost, the 28-105's a great lens (I'd consider it at twice the price) but 
I'd hesitate to use it on a 5D unless it was stopped down and not at the 
wide end of the zoom. The 28-105 is pretty comparable performance-wise 
to the 28-135, it just lacks IS and the extra length on the tele end.
   



I don't use such lenses and have no intention to.
 



Then my point is irrelevant to you anyways (Which was that consumer 
zooms like the 28-105 perform poorly on full frame digital). So why did 
you respond in the first place? Just feeling bitchy? You don't even 
shoot a full-frame camera. In fact, since you're so against 
pixel-peeping, why don't you shoot with such lenses? Not much of a 
performance difference between them and pro glass like your 85/1.4 A*, 
just a little edge sharpness and maybe distortion ;-)






Cheers,
 Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

 


-Adam



Re: Nostalgic

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I owned a Minolta, and a Konica.  My first Minolta complemented my large
 Honeywell Pentax H3 that I got way back in 1962.  I wanted to tote a small
 camera with me all the time.  The Minolta 16 fit the bill at the time.
 Much later,  I got a Minolta CLE which was based on the Leica CL body.  I
 still have CLE and use it once in awhile.
 I've own a couple of Konicas.  The first was the Konica Autoreflex that let
 the user choose to shoot full frame or half-frame.  My second Konica was
 there compact 35mm.
 Let's hope Samsung-Pentax will prosper.

I've got a couple of Minoltas as well, but I can't say that I've such
fond memories as you do.  I bought them all in the past few years,
very cheaply and very used.

I have a little Minolta HiMatic F, a compact fully auto (no manual
overide) RF.  Takes surprisingly not-horrible photos, especially since
I paid $12 for it on eBay.  I rarely use it anymore, since my Leica CL
(more on the CL later) is only slightly larger, but is of much higher
quality and flexibility.

Perhaps the most unusual cam I have is my little (and I mean ~little~)
Minolta 16 II.  It's my little spy camera.  I think of it as a poor
man's Minox, although it's a fair bit larger than a Minox.  Takes
16mm film, but as I don't have a film cassette, I can't load it, so I
can't take photos.  I think I paid around $15 or $20 for it on eBay,
but the cassettes (often loaded with terribly outdated film - one buys
them for the cassette, not the film) cost around $25US, and by the
time one pays shipping, converts to Canadian and possibly pays taxes
and duty, it turns into a $50 item - not worth it in my books.  So the
Minolta 16 sits on a shelf, a conversation piece and nothing more.  It
would be fun to shoot some with it, at least one roll, just for the
fun of it.

And, last but not least, my Leica CL has a body made in Japan by
Minolta.  Designed by Leica and Minolta jointly, manufactured by
Minolta, with a lovely little lens made in Wetzlar, Germany, I quite
love my little CL, and it's likely my most used camera over the last
few years (it would be a close race between the CL and my LX).

BTW, Jim, I envy you having a Minolta CLE that works.  Working ones
are really hard to find these days.  As CL's are fully mechanical,
they can be kept going almost forever, and a look at eBay at any given
time will show on average about 1/2 dozen listed.  CLE's with all
those electronics in them, have (on average) long since reached the
end of their life cycles.  These are, don't forget, 30 year old
cameras by now.  As their demise is almost always electronics-related,
they're virtually non-repairable.  Too bad, because I've heard they
were lovely little cameras.  I'm glad you still use yours once in a
while.

So, yes, Minolta's demise is a passing that affects us all, I suppose...

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Surprisingly (or not), he's still bashing Pentax.  Go figure.  Better
there than here, I suppose.

On 1/20/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Mishka


  so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real soon?

 Nah, he's singlehandedly keeping them afloat with lens purchases.

 William Robb




--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
Wonder why we haven't seen his Pentax gear for sale?

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Konica-Minolta

Surprisingly (or not), he's still bashing Pentax.  Go figure.  Better
there than here, I suppose.

On 1/20/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Mishka


  so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real soon?

 Nah, he's singlehandedly keeping them afloat with lens purchases.

 William Robb




--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman




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Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread dagt
Where?
 
 fra: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Surprisingly (or not), he's still bashing Pentax.  Go figure.  Better
 there than here, I suppose.
 
 On 1/20/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mishka
 
 
   so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real soon?
 
  Nah, he's singlehandedly keeping them afloat with lens purchases.
 
  William Robb
 
 
 
 
 --
 Scott Loveless
 http://www.twosixteen.com
 
 --
 You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
 
 



Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread Christian

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Christian wrote:


Pentax e  Samsung is commited
to the APS-C or whatever sensor



Unfair, unless you can prove, or even have indication that when Pentax 
announced their commitment to APS-C, they were already in bed with Samsung.


Kostas


Sorry Kostas, I was not inferring that Pentax committed to APS-C 
because of Samsung.  Only that Samsung and Pentax, for all purposes, 
is one and the same (after all 2 cameras HAVE been rebadged Samsung) and 
therefore both have committed to APS-C.  And again, there is nothing 
wrong with it.  Actually, I think it's good for Pentax/Samsung to commit 
to a form factor and stick with it so they can develop it to its full 
potential.  Perhaps Samsung will begin to develop and manufacture APS-C 
chips for both companies?


--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Maas

Bryan Adams.

Quite a good photographer actually.

Leonard Nimoy also had a couple albums, but I don't find his photography 
to be any better than his singing.


-Adam

Derby Chang wrote:


I think a big part of the celeb photog is that they have entree into an 
inside world. Hopper's pics are a good example. That's not to say they 
aren't accomplished. But they are piquant.

http://www.eyestorm.com/artist/Dennis_Hopper.aspx

David Lynch of course is something else. I was bidding for his out of 
print Images book a while back, but backed out when it got outrageous. 
Amazingly the next month I found a copy for next to nix in a cool 2nd 
hand book shop we have here, Berkelouw (there is a branch in LA too). Fate.

http://tinyurl.com/94wuw

Jeff Bridges I started looking at because I just got a swing lens camera 
(Horizon). He has some tasty pics on his site.

http://www.jeffbridges.com/
Mmmm...Michelle
http://www.jeffbridges.com/FB_04.html

And I have Rossellini's book. Not groundbreaking stuff, but really 
balanced and refined.


I agree with you, Bob. They are all visually oriented. Who can I think 
of who photographs and writes, or sings? Hmm.




Bob W wrote:

Good question. I don't know. I haven't taken much of a look at any of 
those
you list. I've flicked through Jeff Bridges' book, and was quite 
impressed.

Yul Brynner had a book published didn't he? I don't remember any of his
pictures though. I think I saw some of Dennis Hopper's in a Sunday 
suplement

last year, and enjoyed them but again, I don't remember any of them.

Apart from Helena Christensen, all those you've listed are in the quality
end of the film industry, so by virtue of that they are highly
visually-oriented and probably very intelligent. But HC is also in a very
visual industry, and I think she has more than the normal model's 
allocation

of grey matter. That makes it hardly surprising that they should be good
photographers.

It's when members of Spinal Tap start to get ideas above their station 
that

things get embarrassing.

--
Cheers,
 Bob
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 
January 2006 01:15

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)



Yep, I agree. He's no Mapplethorpe.

Which celeb photogs do you like? Some celebs photogs that work for me:

David Lynch
Jeff Bridges
Dennis Hopper
Isabella Rossellini

Maybe Helena Christensen (although that might be for other reasons)

D





  








Re: Nostalgic

2006-01-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Me too ... I've owned a number of Minoltas over the years.

- A Minolta 16-Ps was the first camera a bought myself. A good  
performer too. (Frank, I have several Minolta 16-II cameras  
cassettes. Let me see if I can round them up ... i know I have at  
least one cassette per camera, perhaps a couple of extras too. I know  
I have a couple hundred feet of 16mm film that can be cut to load  
them..)


- In 1969-1970, one of the cameras I bought for my high school photo  
staff was a Minolta SRT-101, along with 35mm, 50mm and 135mm lenses.  
An excellent camera, it did yeoman service in the hands of high  
schoolers for a decade.


- A Hi-Matic 7 I bought for my youngest brother only stopped working  
a couple of years ago, it needed a cleaning and he wanted to move on  
to something else. I don't know what's become of it since.


- Another brother I gifted with a Minolta Super-8 movie camera, which  
he used throughout high school and college in acquiring his degree in  
Fine Art.


- In 1979-1980, I bought a complete, 8 lens Minolta XD-11 kit. That  
was a very fine camera with excellent lenses.


- A Minolta Autometer II was in my kit from 1982 until 1999 when I  
sold it in exchange for a new Sekonic L328.


- My Leica CL was an excellent performer too.

- I still own a Konica Minolta A2, the best small-sensor, fixed-lens  
8Mpixel camera I've found to date. It is a superb performer.


It's sad to see them go.

Godfrey



Re: Pentax lens rebates

2006-01-20 Thread wendy beard
On 1/20/06, Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would submit it on your form.  I think rebates are handled by rebate
 handling companies, experts in scanning for deficiencies.  If you are in
 compliance with the form you submit, I don't think you will be denied,
 assuming you meet all the other criteria.


Ha ha ha ha ha.

Try telling that to Staples.
I submitted a claim to them in September for a rebate on a Sandisk SD
card. They are still refusing to pay up despite me submitting the
correct documents and re-faxing all the details twice.


--
Wendy Beard
Ottawa
Canada



RE: Capa Doc

2006-01-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I tried to find the documentary on NetFlix, but with no luck.  However, a
search for Cap brought up: Adventure of Photography: 150 Years of the
Photographic Image.

If you're a NetFlix subscriber you can read about the series here:
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70027437trkid=147042
 

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Bob W 

 I second your recommendation. Frank, if you didn't know about Capa and
 Bergman then you really need to read Robert Capa by Whelan, and Blood
and
 Champagne by Kershaw. It won't do you any harm at all to read Slightly
Out
 of Focus by Capa himself, either. The title of the book may appeal to you
 especially.

 --
 Cheers,
  Bob 

  -Original Message-
  From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 20 January 2006 12:57
  To: PDML
  Subject: OT: Capa Doc
  
  Our local educational channel, TVO showed Robert Capa in Love 
  and War last night.  Terrific documentary. 




Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Leonard Nimoy also had a couple albums, but I don't find his photography
 to be any better than his singing.snip

Whew!!

Thank God the man could act.

g

cheers,
frank

PS:  I didn't think much of his photos, either.  Pretentious, artsy stuff...

-ft



--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Capa Doc

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried to find the documentary on NetFlix, but with no luck.  However, a
 search for Cap brought up: Adventure of Photography: 150 Years of the
 Photographic Image.

 If you're a NetFlix subscriber you can read about the series here:
 http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70027437trkid=147042


Shel,

It was originally done as an American Masters piece for PBS:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html

I'll go look at your link, now.  g

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

2006-01-20 Thread Charles Robinson

On Jan 19, 2006, at 15:36, Bob Shell wrote:


I was supposed to interview him about four years ago for Zoom  
magazine.  We sent e-mails back and forth for weeks, but by the  
time he finished sending me a list of things I could not ask about  
or mention, there wasn't much left and I lost interest (main thing  
was absolutely no mention of Warhol, or those days).  Of course he  
didn't have a show/book to promote at that time!  Apparently that  
makes a big difference.




If you have read Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of  
Punk, you'll know why he'd like to leave those days behind.  Lou is  
one scary, messed-up person in that book.  I'd be afraid to be in the  
same room with the man in that book.


(Slight recommendation for that book if you wonder where punk  
REALLY started.  As a clue, I'll tell you it wasn't The Ramones and  
the Sex Pistols who started it - not by a long shot.  Not a great  
book, but kind of interesting if you ever listened to any of the  
music referenced in there)


Granted, we all grow and change (and many of us even mature as we do  
it) so who knows what he's like these days?  But wow.


 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org



Re: Capa Doc

2006-01-20 Thread E.R.N. Reed

frank theriault wrote:


On 1/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


I tried to find the documentary on NetFlix, but with no luck.  However, a
search for Cap brought up: Adventure of Photography: 150 Years of the
Photographic Image.

If you're a NetFlix subscriber you can read about the series here:
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70027437trkid=147042

   



Shel,

It was originally done as an American Masters piece for PBS:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html

I'll go look at your link, now.  g

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



 

I think I saw the American Masters PBS edition of it. Interesting to 
watch. Although I wondered why they chose a Croatian to portray a 
Hungarian (reading direct quotes from Capa.) I guess the theory is 
right continent = close enough? (Or, well, Capa had an accent.  
Visnjic has an accent. Perfect!)


ERN




Re: Pentax lens rebates

2006-01-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/20/2006 7:00:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ha ha ha ha ha.

Try telling that to Staples.
I submitted a claim to them in September for a rebate on a Sandisk SD
card. They are still refusing to pay up despite me submitting the
correct documents and re-faxing all the details twice.


--
Wendy Beard
===
I've had mixed results with rebates. Office Max is very good and Circuit City 
isn't bad. Some other places, forget it. Although, sometimes I do think it's 
the product too.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/01/20 Fri PM 02:53:50 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)
 
 Bryan Adams.
 
 Quite a good photographer actually.
 
 Leonard Nimoy also had a couple albums, but I don't find his photography 
 to be any better than his singing.
 
 -Adam

He's an actor, not a celebrity.  Or a singer.  I'd _much_ rather look at his 
pictures than listen to him sing.

 
 Derby Chang wrote:
  
  I think a big part of the celeb photog is that they have entree into an 
  inside world. Hopper's pics are a good example. That's not to say they 
  aren't accomplished. But they are piquant.
  http://www.eyestorm.com/artist/Dennis_Hopper.aspx
  
  David Lynch of course is something else. I was bidding for his out of 
  print Images book a while back, but backed out when it got outrageous. 
  Amazingly the next month I found a copy for next to nix in a cool 2nd 
  hand book shop we have here, Berkelouw (there is a branch in LA too). Fate.
  http://tinyurl.com/94wuw
  
  Jeff Bridges I started looking at because I just got a swing lens camera 
  (Horizon). He has some tasty pics on his site.
  http://www.jeffbridges.com/
  Mmmm...Michelle
  http://www.jeffbridges.com/FB_04.html
  
  And I have Rossellini's book. Not groundbreaking stuff, but really 
  balanced and refined.
  
  I agree with you, Bob. They are all visually oriented. Who can I think 
  of who photographs and writes, or sings? Hmm.
  
  
  
  Bob W wrote:
  
  Good question. I don't know. I haven't taken much of a look at any of 
  those
  you list. I've flicked through Jeff Bridges' book, and was quite 
  impressed.
  Yul Brynner had a book published didn't he? I don't remember any of his
  pictures though. I think I saw some of Dennis Hopper's in a Sunday 
  suplement
  last year, and enjoyed them but again, I don't remember any of them.
 
  Apart from Helena Christensen, all those you've listed are in the quality
  end of the film industry, so by virtue of that they are highly
  visually-oriented and probably very intelligent. But HC is also in a very
  visual industry, and I think she has more than the normal model's 
  allocation
  of grey matter. That makes it hardly surprising that they should be good
  photographers.
 
  It's when members of Spinal Tap start to get ideas above their station 
  that
  things get embarrassing.
 
  -- 
  Cheers,
   Bob
   
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 
  January 2006 01:15
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: OT: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)
 
 
 
  Yep, I agree. He's no Mapplethorpe.
 
  Which celeb photogs do you like? Some celebs photogs that work for me:
 
  David Lynch
  Jeff Bridges
  Dennis Hopper
  Isabella Rossellini
 
  Maybe Helena Christensen (although that might be for other reasons)
 
  D
  
 
 
 

  
  
  
 
 


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Re: Capa Doc

2006-01-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I was hoping there was a DVD out ... can't find one.  Searched the American
Masters offerings as well.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: frank theriault 

 It was originally done as an American Masters piece for PBS:

 http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html

 I'll go look at your link, now.  g




Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 20, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

If you have read Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of  
Punk, you'll know why he'd like to leave those days behind.  Lou  
is one scary, messed-up person in that book.  I'd be afraid to be  
in the same room with the man in that book.




If the interview ever looks like it will happen again I'll read that  
first!!


(Slight recommendation for that book if you wonder where punk  
REALLY started.  As a clue, I'll tell you it wasn't The Ramones and  
the Sex Pistols who started it - not by a long shot.  Not a great  
book, but kind of interesting if you ever listened to any of the  
music referenced in there)


Granted, we all grow and change (and many of us even mature as we  
do it) so who knows what he's like these days?  But wow.


For people interested in rock/pop history, I recommend Lollipop  
Lounge by Genya Ravan.  Genya was the singer fronting Ten Wheel Drive  
and one of Mick Jagger's girlfriends.  She was right in the middle of  
things in those formative days.  And she writes well, too (unless it  
was ghosted).


Bob



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:14 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Leonard Nimoy also had a couple albums, but I don't find his  
photography

to be any better than his singing.

-Adam


He's an actor, not a celebrity.  Or a singer.  I'd _much_ rather  
look at his pictures than listen to him sing.



Personally, I like some of Nimoy's work.  Those unfamiliar with his  
photography should take a look:


http://www.leonardnimoyphotography.com/

Bob



Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

2006-01-20 Thread Charles Robinson

On Jan 20, 2006, at 11:40, Bob Shell wrote:


If the interview ever looks like it will happen again I'll read  
that first!!




(Maybe you should read it afterwards - wouldn't want to scare you off  
of doing the interview!)


(Slight recommendation for that book if you wonder where punk  
REALLY started.  As a clue, I'll tell you it wasn't The Ramones  
and the Sex Pistols who started it - not by a long shot.  Not a  
great book, but kind of interesting if you ever listened to any of  
the music referenced in there)


Granted, we all grow and change (and many of us even mature as we  
do it) so who knows what he's like these days?  But wow.


For people interested in rock/pop history, I recommend Lollipop  
Lounge by Genya Ravan.  Genya was the singer fronting Ten Wheel  
Drive and one of Mick Jagger's girlfriends.  She was right in the  
middle of things in those formative days.  And she writes well, too  
(unless it was ghosted).




The book I mentioned was written by someone called Legs McNeil - how  
could you resist a book by someone with a name like that?  :-)


 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org



Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

The book I mentioned was written by someone called Legs McNeil -  
how could you resist a book by someone with a name like that?  :-)



Sounds like one of Lucky Luciano's pals!!

Bob



Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

2006-01-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
WOW!  Someone else who know Genya Raven.  She was great!  Still is.

I met her once in NYC and found her to be an articulate and intelligent
person, quite different than her TWD persona.  I believe she is/was a
record producer, and had a few solo albums of her own.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Bob Shell 

 For people interested in rock/pop history, I recommend Lollipop  
 Lounge by Genya Ravan.  Genya was the singer fronting Ten Wheel Drive  
 and one of Mick Jagger's girlfriends.  She was right in the middle of  
 things in those formative days.  And she writes well, too (unless it  
 was ghosted).




Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


WOW!  Someone else who know Genya Raven.  She was great!  Still is.

I met her once in NYC and found her to be an articulate and  
intelligent

person, quite different than her TWD persona.  I believe she is/was a
record producer, and had a few solo albums of her own.


I saw her back in the day with TWD.  Powerful is the only word.

I have the TWD albums, and some of her solo albums.  Vinyl, of  
course.  I haven't seen any of them on CD.


After I read the book I sent her an e-mail talking about the old  
days, how much I liked the book, and how her name was almost always  
mispronounced by announcers and DJs.  She sent back a chatty,  
friendly note and invited me to come see her at one of the clubs  
she's singing in these days in NYC.  Next time I make it up there I  
plan to take her up on that.  If it happens I hope she'll let me  
photograph her.


Bob




PESO - a couple of images

2006-01-20 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd... 
The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...


http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513

Boris




Re: PESO - a couple of images

2006-01-20 Thread pnstenquist
I think 11512 is the best of these. it's a more interesting composition. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi!
 
 It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd... 
 The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
 
 Boris
 
 



Re: PESO - a couple of images

2006-01-20 Thread Jack Davis
Hi Boris,

Beautiful timing on both the natural and man-made trees.
Silhouettes exposures allow a luscious sky.
Nice!

Jack

--- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77
 Ltd... 
 The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty
 versatile...
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
 
 Boris
 
 
 



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Re: PESO - a couple of images

2006-01-20 Thread pnstenquist
I think 11513 would benefit from a tighter crop that eliminates most of the 
empty sky at top.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi!
 
 It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd... 
 The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
 
 Boris
 
 



Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread John Forbes
Don't you remember?  He thinks it will rise in value when Pentax goes out  
of business.  That's one reason he keeps bashing Pentax.


John

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:07:32 -, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Wonder why we haven't seen his Pentax gear for sale?

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-

From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Subject: Re: Konica-Minolta

Surprisingly (or not), he's still bashing Pentax.  Go figure.  Better
there than here, I suppose.

On 1/20/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


- Original Message -
From: Mishka


 so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real  
soon?


Nah, he's singlehandedly keeping them afloat with lens purchases.

William Robb





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Re: PESO - a couple of images

2006-01-20 Thread Rick Womer
Boris,

I like the first one (Landing)--the combination of
blue sky, clouds, and silhouettes works well, as do
the interplay between the flying bird and the roosting
birds.

Cellular doesn't work nearly as well to me, because
there is no tension in the composition, and, well,
cellular towers are just plain ugly.

Rick

--- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43
 Ltd, and 77 Ltd... 
 The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens...
 It is mighty versatile...
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
 
 Boris
 
 
 


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Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread John Forbes
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:08:57 -, Kostas Kavoussanakis  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Mishka wrote:


so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real soon?


Ssshhh!

whisper
Don't tell Herb!
/whisper

Kostas (who actually misses Herb's financial analyses)


If you had ever worked for a public company, you would know that  
analysts know less than nothing about the companies they write about and  
advise on.


If you can, do.  If you can't, analyse.  If these people knew anything at  
all, they wouldn't sell their advice to you and me. They'd be acting on it  
on their own account, like Warren Buffet, and a few others who prefer to  
remain less visible.


Analysts? Parasites, the lot of them.

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Re: PESO - a couple of images

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd...
 The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513


I like them both.  I think I prefer the one with the real tree, but
the antenna tower's pretty cool, too.  Both interesting and pleasing
photos.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

He's an actor, not a celebrity

I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/1/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=85917538size=l



It's asking me to join FuckR and there is more chance of me dining with
Elvis.
  


You don't need to join to see that shot.  Just look at the damned shot 
instead of whinging about my choice of photo hosts.

Here's the direct link to the JPEG.

http://static.flickr.com/40/85917538_35f5c4770f_b.jpg

Er, the link you gave me earlier demanded a sign up. But you ignored
that because you are obviously a twat.

I did see the pic using the latest link. Very nice.

So, you're a very nice twat.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Lasse Karlsson

From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)



On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


He's an actor, not a celebrity


I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity? 
;-)


Does he look like Marilyn Monroe?

Show behaviour similar to that of Paris Hilton?

Does he attract the attention of papparazzi lenses?

In brief - does he sell?

:-)

Lasse

Cheers,
 Cotty




Re: PESO - a couple of images

2006-01-20 Thread brooksdj
Very nice.
Lovely blues on my monitor.

No not Buddy Guy.LOL

Dave  

 Hi!
 
 It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd... 
 The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513
 
 Boris
 
 






RE: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
Cotty wrote:

 He's an actor, not a celebrity
 
 I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a 
 celebrity?  ;-)

A logical question.

Malcolm




Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)


I think you've hit the nail on the head, Cotty (did I actually say
that Cotty made a salient point? g)

In fact, what he is, is a professional celebrity.  He's got not
discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or was - he's
dead, no?).

Kind of reminds me of Zsa-Zsa Gabor.  I could never figure out what
she did to be famous.  A couple of really bad B movies?  Married a
celebrity or four?  Is that enough to make her famous?  Well, maybe,
but the fact is she became a professional celebrity.  Game shows, talk
shows, in the tabloids;  not for talent or accomplishments, just for
~who~ she is.

I think guys like Nimoy, while not as extreme as Zsa-Zsa, come close
to that category.  I mean, riding on the coat-tails of a mediocre 40
year old sci-fi tv show that lasted, what, a 3 seasons?  g,dr

cheers,
frank

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Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Maas

Cotty wrote:

On 20/1/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:






You don't need to join to see that shot.  Just look at the damned shot 
instead of whinging about my choice of photo hosts.


Here's the direct link to the JPEG.

http://static.flickr.com/40/85917538_35f5c4770f_b.jpg



Er, the link you gave me earlier demanded a sign up. But you ignored
that because you are obviously a twat.

I did see the pic using the latest link. Very nice.

So, you're a very nice twat.




Cheers,
  Cotty





Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require signing 
in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log 
me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.


-Adam



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Maas

Lasse Karlsson wrote:

From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)



On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


He's an actor, not a celebrity



I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a 
celebrity? ;-)



Does he look like Marilyn Monroe?

Show behaviour similar to that of Paris Hilton?

Does he attract the attention of papparazzi lenses?

In brief - does he sell?

:-)

Lasse


Cheers,
 Cotty


He was on Star Trek. His career is entirely based on that fact (Depsite 
having done some other stuff) Ergo he's a celebrity, not an actor.


-Adam



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In fact, what he is, is a professional celebrity.  He's got not
 discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or was - he's
 dead, no?).

Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?

I guess I must have been thinking of his career...

cheers,
frank

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Re: The Future of Film?

2006-01-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I shoot digital, and I shoot film, both 35mm and medium format.  I know 
how much detail I lose over 35mm when I shoot digital, just as I know 
how much detail I lose shooting 35mm vs medium format.  If he's happy 
with digital, (APS), converted to negatives then made into platinum 
prints, that's fine for him.  I feel sorry for him.  If you can't tell 
the difference, I feel sorry for you.  Enough said.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Jan 19, 2006, at 9:01 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I have seen cyanotype and platinum/paladium prints, they're even  
better if the source image is exceptional, such as an 4x5 or 8x10  
plate.



This gentleman's source material was exceptional. All of it, whether  
film or digital negative from other sources. He explicitly showed  
originals, negatives and positives, in demonstrating the process.


How is it that you can debate with such assurance against the quality  
of something that you haven't even seen and therefore have no ability  
to judge with any credibility?


Godfrey






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Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's there for me as well ...

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Adam Maas 

 Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require signing 
 in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log 
 me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.




Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Shel Belinkoff
His career is dead?

He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which I've
seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity Poker
with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: frank theriault 

 Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?

 I guess I must have been thinking of his career...




Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread E.R.N. Reed

frank theriault wrote:


On 1/20/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


In fact, what he is, is a professional celebrity.  He's got not
discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or was - he's
dead, no?).
   



Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?


Bones or Scotty. They're both dead.



Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread brooksdj
And me to.

Dave  

 It's there for me as well ...
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Adam Maas 
 
  Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require signing 
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Re: The Future of Film?

2006-01-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I shoot digital, and I shoot film, both 35mm and medium format.  I  
know how much detail I lose over 35mm when I shoot digital, just as  
I know how much detail I lose shooting 35mm vs medium format.  If  
he's happy with digital, (APS), converted to negatives then made  
into platinum prints, that's fine for him.  I feel sorry for him.   
If you can't tell the difference, I feel sorry for you.  Enough said.


You're just a sorry individual, I guess.

G



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2006-01-20 Thread brooksdj


I wonder if my ibook will morf into this one day.

http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/86410009/in/pool-tuawrigs/

Looks like this guy enjoyed being assimilated by the collective.:-) or is this 
the 21st
Century skitzoid 
man.

Dave

BTW link works.:-)  





Re: too much ...

2006-01-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I wonder if my ibook will morf into this one day.
http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/86410009/in/pool-tuawrigs/


Only with lots of fertilizer (call it cash... ;-)

Godfrey




Financal Condition of Pentax

2006-01-20 Thread James Fellows
Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Jim
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pixel Cramming


 And me to.

 Dave

 It's there for me as well ...
 
  Shel
 
 
 
   [Original Message]
   From: Adam Maas
 
   Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require
signing
   in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log
   me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.
 
 









Re:

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Maas

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I wonder if my ibook will morf into this one day.

http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/86410009/in/pool-tuawrigs/

Looks like this guy enjoyed being assimilated by the collective.:-) or is this 
the 21st
Century skitzoid 
man.


Dave

BTW link works.:-)  




Drool

Man, I want. Oh, I want.

-Adam



Re: OT: Lou Reed heart NY

2006-01-20 Thread mike wilson

Charles Robinson wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 11:40, Bob Shell wrote:



If the interview ever looks like it will happen again I'll read  that 
first!!




(Maybe you should read it afterwards - wouldn't want to scare you off  
of doing the interview!)


(Slight recommendation for that book if you wonder where punk  
REALLY started.  As a clue, I'll tell you it wasn't The Ramones  and 
the Sex Pistols who started it - not by a long shot.  Not a  great 
book, but kind of interesting if you ever listened to any of  the 
music referenced in there)


Granted, we all grow and change (and many of us even mature as we  do 
it) so who knows what he's like these days?  But wow.



For people interested in rock/pop history, I recommend Lollipop  
Lounge by Genya Ravan.  Genya was the singer fronting Ten Wheel  Drive 
and one of Mick Jagger's girlfriends.  She was right in the  middle of 
things in those formative days.  And she writes well, too  (unless it 
was ghosted).




The book I mentioned was written by someone called Legs McNeil - how  
could you resist a book by someone with a name like that?  :-)


Two other authors that I have never read but their name incites me to: 
Studs Turkel and Julius Axelrod.




Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Maas

Rough shape? They made a profit last year.

Only issue they had was sales of PS digitals were down, but that goes 
for everybody in that market, it's hit saturation.


-Adam



James Fellows wrote:

Hi,

I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

Jim
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pixel Cramming




And me to.

Dave

   It's there for me as well ...


Shel





[Original Message]
From: Adam Maas



Flickr changed something, those links previously didn't require


signing


in. Since I'm always signed in (Flickr, unlike most sites, doesn't log
me out unless I ask it to) I don't see a login page.














Re: Financal Condition of Pentax

2006-01-20 Thread frank theriault
On 1/20/06, James Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have been off the list for a couple of years.  I am hoping to jump into
 the DSLR world soon.  Using a Pentax DSLR seems to be the way to go based on
 the lenses and flashes I own.  But now I hear Pentax is in rough shape
 financially and I wonder if I should not invest in Pentax if they will be
 out of the DSLR market soon.  What does everybody else hear.

You could always ask Herb Chong VBG...

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - a couple of images

2006-01-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
For me, neither image is very engaging.  The sky is nicely exposed,
but only seeing a sillouhette of the birds is just so so.  The sky
isn't that amazing to allow the sillouhete to enhance it and the birds
by themselves just don't cut it.

--  Bruce


Friday, January 20, 2006, 10:42:25 AM, you wrote:

BL Hi!

BL It appears that my most used lenses are Sigma 18, 43 Ltd, and 77 Ltd...
BL The two shots below were taken with 77 Ltd lens... It is mighty versatile...

BL http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11512
BL http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11513

BL Boris




Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:



On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:



He's an actor, not a celebrity



I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)



Celebrities have nothing but their celebrity.



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:34:39PM +, Cotty wrote:
 On 20/1/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 He's an actor, not a celebrity
 
 I take your point about Nimoy's singing, but how is he not a celebrity?  ;-)

I'll take Nimoy's singing over Shatner's any day!



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


His career is dead?



His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  
his photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was away  
somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.



He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which  
I've
seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity  
Poker

with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 



I don't imagine he would have the patience for Paris Hilton, unless  
it was to bitch slap her.


Bob



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 20, 2006, at 4:23 PM, John Francis wrote:



I'll take Nimoy's singing over Shatner's any day!



For sure!  Or his acting.

Bob



Re: PESO - White forest

2006-01-20 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wow. Love it. Great Job.

dk

On 1/14/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have lost contact with the list several times the last weeks, so I
 ´ll combine a test with a PESO.

 This was what the woods close to Oslo looked like last week.
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=213843

 Now all the snow is gone :-(

 DagT

 PS: Thanks to Tim for commenting in Norwegian and suggesting the grey
 background





Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Shell


On Jan 20, 2006, at 4:23 PM, John Francis wrote:



I'll take Nimoy's singing over Shatner's any day!



Reminds me of a Shatner story.  An old friend of mine (Art Evans,  
author of books about Rollei) is a retired Paramount producer who  
knew Shatner back in the early days of his career.  He told me that  
Shatner would insist that the studio buy him first class air tickets  
wherever he went.  He would then go to the airport and cash in the  
tickets, buy coach seats, and pocket the difference.


Bob



Re: Pixel Cramming

2006-01-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Film gates on 35mm aren't always accurate either.  APS-C sensors are 
at least close to 2:3 ratio or 16.7x24.1mm, the Canon 20 uses a ~2:3 
ratio sensor with a ~1.3x crop factor  APS-H is 30.2x16.7mm or ~16:9 
which is not even close.


Adam Maas wrote:

And 1.5x or 1.6x crop sensors aren't even really APS-C. It's a 
convenient shorthand that most people use to define the common sensor 
sizes. You're picking nits.


-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:

The Canon D doesn't have and APS-H size sensor.  The aspect ratio is 
the same as APS-C or 35mm.  APS-H is a wider view horizontally.


Adam Maas wrote:


John Forbes wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:43:17 -, Christian 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:



Adam Maas wrote:


Nikon is doing 12.4MP in APS-C, that's the sensor in the D2x.
 -Adam






Sorry, I always forget about that one.  And it is supposed to 
have  really good noise properties too.






It seems to me that there is no good reason why Samsung, or anybody 
else,  can't produce a sensor which is half-way in size between 
APS-C and 35mm  (24x36).  This would be about 50% bigger than APS-C 
but would still, I  think, allow all Pentax DA lenses to be used 
without vignetting.  Crop  factor would be around 1.3.


If Nikon can squeeze excellent results out of an APS-C sensor with 
12.4  Mpixels, a 50% bigger sensor should be able to manage
around 18 mpixels, and will make the new 12-24mm zoom equivalent 
to  16-31mm on 35mm, which is pretty good.


It would still be considerably cheaper to make than a full-frame 
sensor.


That's what I would be aiming to do if I were running 
Pentax/Samsung.  But  of course, I'm not.


JOhn




APS-H, a la Canon 1D and Kodak DCS760.

But there is a major disadvantage. Wide angle lenses lose their 
wide, and you can't use any of the 'digital wides' except the 
generally poor performing Sigma 12-24 because of coverage problems 
as they don't cover APS-H at the wide end. The 1.3x crop size also 
is more susceptible to poor edge performance that is avoided with 
the APS-C cameras and plagues full-frame (Consumer lenses are 
generally unusable on Full Frame cameras because of how apparent 
their weaknesses become).


-Adam











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FS Friday--Lenses

2006-01-20 Thread Mark Erickson
Here we go--some nice Pentax lenses that should see more than the bottom of
my camera bag:

SMC-A 28mm F2.8:   $100 Purchased Exc+ from KEH Feb 2005,
used a little.  Comes with caps.

SMC-A 24-50mm F4:  $175 Purchased from eBay, used 
very little.  Comes with caps
and Pentax-brand rubber hood.

SMC-FA* 28-70mm F2.8:  $1000Purchased new, used some, but
still very clean.  Comes with
caps, hood, and original box.

SMC-FA 135mm F2.8: $250 Purchased Exc from KEH fall 2005
used a little.  Comes with caps.

Final price: above + actual shipping USPS Priority Mail and insurance
specified by the purchased.  Want a lens but think the price is too high?
Make me an offer.

Thanks,

Mark



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/1/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

In fact, what he is, is a professional celebrity.  He's got not
discernable talent, but he's famous for who he is (or was - he's
dead, no?).

Illogical.

No.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/1/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?

James Doohan (Scotty) and DeForest Kelly (McCoy).




Cheers,
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Re: Konica-Minolta

2006-01-20 Thread P. J. Alling

Probably went straight to e-bay...

Kenneth Waller wrote:


Wonder why we haven't seen his Pentax gear for sale?

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
 


From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   



 


Subject: Re: Konica-Minolta

Surprisingly (or not), he's still bashing Pentax.  Go figure.  Better
there than here, I suppose.

On 1/20/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   


- Original Message -
From: Mishka


 


so it is nikon then that's about to go belly-up some time real soon?
   


Nah, he's singlehandedly keeping them afloat with lens purchases.

William Robb


 


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Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Maas

Bob Shell wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


His career is dead?



His career is hardly dead.  I wanted to do an article about him and  his 
photography, but every time I talked to his publicist he was away  
somewhere directing a new movie.  He has moved behind the camera.


Really? According to IMDB, he hasn't directed anything since 1995. The 
only listings for him after then is voice acting/narrating stuff and 
various fan related appearances, well and a couple really low-budget 
bits. Of course they don't cover commercials, but any real film work 
should be in there.





He may not be as visible as he once was, but he's been directing and
producing, doing TV commercials, has his photography (some of which  I've
seen and which is quite well done, IMO), and he's been on Celebrity  
Poker

with Dr.Phil and Paris Hilton.  OK, I made up that last part 



I don't imagine he would have the patience for Paris Hilton, unless  it 
was to bitch slap her.


Bob


-Adam



Re: Pentax lens rebates

2006-01-20 Thread P. J. Alling

They seem to do a lot better online.

wendy beard wrote:


On 1/20/06, Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


I would submit it on your form.  I think rebates are handled by rebate
handling companies, experts in scanning for deficiencies.  If you are in
compliance with the form you submit, I don't think you will be denied,
assuming you meet all the other criteria.

   



Ha ha ha ha ha.

Try telling that to Staples.
I submitted a claim to them in September for a rebate on a Sandisk SD
card. They are still refusing to pay up despite me submitting the
correct documents and re-faxing all the details twice.


--
Wendy Beard
Ottawa
Canada


 




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Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Christian

E.R.N. Reed wrote:

frank theriault wrote:



Hmmm...  I guess Nimoy's not dead.  Who was I thinking of?


Bones or Scotty. They're both dead.


Cotty's dead!  oh... e oops. :-)

--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net



Re: Celeb photographers (RE: Lou Reed heart NY)

2006-01-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/1/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Reminds me of a Shatner story.  An old friend of mine (Art Evans,  
author of books about Rollei) is a retired Paramount producer who  
knew Shatner back in the early days of his career.  He told me that  
Shatner would insist that the studio buy him first class air tickets  
wherever he went.  He would then go to the airport and cash in the  
tickets, buy coach seats, and pocket the difference.

Time for a funny story from me.

A couple of years ago I filmed a Bond double (Sean Connery lookalike)
and he worked closely with Connery through most of the 007 films. He
told me that Connery became such a big star that he overshadowed most
directors, and as hapless candidates were dragged in to get on with it,
scenarios like this soon emerged:

Connery:  So what are my scenes today?

Would-be de Mille: Well Sean, this morning we have two scenes with you -
the fight in the factory and the shots of you stealing the car, and this
afternoon we have four scenes, mostly the ones of you in the undergrowth
watching Blofeld and then in his swimming pool and -

Connery: Ahh - Actually, I'll tell you what, we'll do all my scenes this
morning my dear fellow.

Would-be: - er, yes, I suppose we could do that

Connery: Excellent.


That afternoon, Mr Connery would be at the nearest golf club until tea time.

True!



Cheers,
  Cotty


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