Re: PDML Archive
Op Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:18:16 +0200 schreef Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jens http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/ Mail-archive made the transfer to the new adress as well: http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml%40pdml.net/ Hope this helps, -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone checked this out yet?
I read somewhere (never could test it myself) that it is as you would expect from Sigma: very soft wide open, quite good with smaller apertures but then why pay so much for f/1.4 ? YMMV 2006/10/24, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's a lot more expensive but a LOT smaller and lighter than their 28/1.8. 62mm vs 77mm filter size. It's the hugeness of the 28 that's kept me away. Please let us know what the results are like. It would be hard to justify when I own the wonderful FA35/2 though. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Anyone checked this out yet? Friend of mine bought one. It's huge and heavy. Haven't seen any results with it yet. G On Oct 23, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: Sigma 30/1.4 for Pentax! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=433041is=REGaddedTroughType=search -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Your first camera
I have bought my son (15 years) several cameras - film as well as digital. He shows no interest in photography. But both of my daughters (grown up) do photograph - one of them sometimes uses a Super A :-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Tim Řsleby Sendt: 22. oktober 2006 20:37 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: RE: Your first camera Point taken Marnie. Three is a good number ;-) I have two sons, no daughters. None of them shows much interest of photography :-( I'll try to do better when grandchildren start rolling in. Hopefully it will be some years before that happens. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. oktober 2006 18:46 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Your first camera In a message dated 10/22/2006 9:37:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie. I did not write the quoted part, Bob did. Blame him, not me ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) === Aha, but I didn't think it was you. However, I didn't think it was Bob either. Okay, he's blamed. ;-) Hehehehehe. Girl children are still given dolls and boy children are still given trucks. Though, these days both may also be given action figures and light sabers. My point is, if you want your daughters (and granddaughters) to grow up enjoying photography, hand them a camera young. Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, I've said that three times -- that should do it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.10/491 - Release Date: 10/23/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
getting year of production from Pentax serial numbers
I'd like to know what year my 67 was made. Does anyone know who I should contact to ascertain this? I assume Pentax could tell me from the serial number, but I tried that with my LX. I sent an email to Pentax USA (there's no Pentax .au site) and never had a reply. Cheers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D: kit (new one) and price for France
An official information published on Clubic (www.clubic.com) yesterday: K10D still scheduled for early november. Available in 4 different options, with official prices: K10D body: 899 euros K10D + 18-55: 999 euros K10D + 18-55 + 50-200: 1199 euros K10D + 16-45: 1299 euros. The kit with 16-45 is not very intersting on a money POV IMO. They also have a database of shops with price etc.. The lowest advertised price is currently 830,20 euros from Amazon.fr and 859,00 from Digibao (mentionned 'cos I bought my D from them and have been happy with them). Take care. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: my Greece photos are online
On 24/10/06, Amita Guha, discombobulated, unleashed: It would probably help if I included a URL. :) http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/2040336/ Lovely stuff, well done Amita. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
Of course, Shel never uses foul language at all. Nope. Never. In fact reports that he verbally abused another list member acting as a financial go-between during a non-ebay transaction when I bought his *ist Ds from him a while back are totally untrue. And shit doesn't stick neither. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Your first camera
Tim Wrote: Just look at this (mainly) SLR list. How many of the regulars are woman? Not a handful. It does not prove anything, but it is a strong indication. Women have too much practal sence (or sence of responsibility), to spend hours every week, reading and writing to people you don't really know (I onlly met Jostien in person, until now) - in stead of doing something useful around the house :-) However, the PDML has made me a better photgrapher, I belive. I guess I've been around (PDML) since 1999 - on and off. At that time photography was a monthly expence. Today, it has become an income (althoug small, but it's there) :-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Tim Øsleby Sendt: 22. oktober 2006 16:41 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: RE: Your first camera To me, it is pretty obvious that you are correct. Men are gear heads. It is a part of our identity as men. And being a gear head is also the ticket into the world of male bonding. So if you are a man, and you want to make sure your son becomes a man among men, you give him gear, photo gear and other gear. Thats pretty dumb logic, but I believe that is how it is. Just look at this (mainly) SLR list. How many of the regulars are woman? Not a handful. It does not prove anything, but it is a strong indication. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22. oktober 2006 03:35 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Your first camera Sidebar - It's been interesting to me how many men on this list started young -- given a camera by their father, uncle, neighbor, some older male. Sort of a male thing. Maybe even a male bonding thing. I know in my family, my father gave a 35mm camera to my older brother and not me (got a new one, passed the old one along). Guys are supposed to techie or something, right? Well, those assumptions were definitely prevalent back then. Later when I was going to take a trip to Tahiti in my thirties I got myself a Pentax PS and that was my first real camera. Anyway, I started wondering if that isn't one reason more men than women use SLRs and DSLRs. (I think with PSs the gender percentages are probably about the same.) Guys were handed cameras young. Idle speculation, but interesting. At least to me. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.10/491 - Release Date: 10/23/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OZ K10D Price
Hi Dave, Can you tell me which shop that was at? I got a price of $1500 from Camera Action in Melbourne and I figured that was about $100 or so too high. I want to go to them in person and some alternate prices would be useful. I'm after the body only but want to get a 12 - 24 as well so I should be able to bargain the price a little. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon David Savage wrote: FYI Aussie PDML'ers, I just received this from my local camera store: $1349 - K10D Body only $1589 - K10D with Pentax 18-55mm Lens $1799 - K10D with Pentax 16-45mm Lens $359 - Grip D-BG2 And as far as they were aware stock would be available in the first week of November (we'll see). Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Simple Macro
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: PESO - Simple Macro I was hiking with a friend a couple of days ago. The lighting of this really caught my eye. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3580.htm Comments welcome My first reaction is gaaak, not another one. The light is gorgeous, its a pity anout the out of focus flower head (I'd probably have pruned it, myself). OOF flower head? All three are lousy with teeny, tiny hair-like fuzz needles, that are quite clearly delineated. Some of them couldn't be more than .001-.002 in diameter, yet Bruce and his hand-held lens captured them well. There is an out of focus artifact top right, just above and to the right of the flower which I find really distracting. I couldn't see any artifact, even when enlarging the image quite a bit. Not 'above and to the right.' What form does this 'artifact' take? I'm not particularly fond of the skinny needle-shaped something or other that is emanating from the flower, and heading out at about 10 o'clock. At first I thought it might be part of a spider web thread, but the more i look at it, the less sure I am of that. But, who cares. Were it me, I'd probably get rid of it if I were to show the print. Sadly, it pretty much ruins the picture for me, it's that annoying. Sorry. William Robb I'm sorry too. Sorry that I can't find what you did! I know I'm working half blind, but I usually am able to eventually see what folks complain about. Not this time... keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Diesel Prototype
From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/24 Tue AM 12:22:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Diesel Prototype Doug Franklin wrote: Keith: shutter speed was only 1/250 and even the front wheel label (?) BREMBO is perfectly readable ~ not blurred! -- that's the hard part of doing those shots :-) I should add that it _was_ blurred, at least when viewed like that at 1:1. I think it's probably still acceptable at regular print magnifications. I assume (I've been away and just resubbed) that someone has pointed out that it is the _caliper_ label and is not part of the spinning wheel. (136,149 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-800x600.jpg (223,985 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-1280x768.jpg (540,295 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-2401x1800.jpg (809,300 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-3038x2022.jpg Also, I forgot the EXIF data for the new shot ... Camera: *ist D Lens: SMC-P F* 300/4.5 F-Stop: f/9.5 Shutter Speed: 1/1000 sec ISO: 200 Metering Mode: Pattern Exposure Compensation: None -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The JCO survey
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/24 Tue AM 12:30:14 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: The JCO survey Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. I don't quite understand. Are you annoyed with Shel? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I've not used any such tones with you. You have done so with others as well, often calling people dumb or idiots, and worse, for expressing their opinions, especially those opinions run counter to yours. You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I have gotten fed up with you and replied in kind. Regardless of how people address you, you can choose to be civil, but you don't. In fact, one of the list members noted that he's left the list several times because of your posts. He wasn't even writing to you, just posting a general message. Your comment was Screw you, dude ... (See below) I think that your foul mouth and abusive language are so much a part of you that you aren't even fully aware of what you say or how you come across. When I bought the K50/1.4 from you on eBay, and told you the front element was lose, you replied with a challenging, abusive email. Of course, I'll never do business with you again. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell My replies are of the same tone as the posts Directed at me. I never start with the name Calling but I will certainly volley. jco -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff How about because of your vile, disgusting language and rude behavior. It's one thing to argue incessantly over the same point, but your style isn't fit for continuous human consumption. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell Screw You, dude. I don't see any reason why anyone Would need/want to leave the list because of my posts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: lens quick change Q?
My Benbo Trekker monopod has been left in places as diverse as the Kremlin and the rails alongside the River Tyne. It's always there whan I come back. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/23 Mon PM 11:49:51 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: lens quick change Q? A number of decades ago I walked off from a Bogen 2001 tripod with #30(?) pan head. After driving a few miles, I went back and it was gone. Damn photogs are everywhere. ;-)) Jack --- Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: A system I'm going to follow, to a greater degree, in the future. I usually replace the front cap if moving on to the next possible shoot, especially if traveling a dirt or gravel road. Same here. When I pack up to go for the day, or have a longish break, I put everything back together again. searching every inch of my rig for that one cap I I have one specific pocket on my bag that that receives all caps, front, lens, body, view finder, hot shoe, ... I, also, spend some time changing from whatever filter back to a UV. (I think I want the UV when in higher elevations). I rarely use filters, except the occasional polarizer, so that's not really an issue. I usually remove the filters, though not always. Seems I've used every lens during the day. I did buy a couple folding filter pouches and find them much handier than the frustration of looking for the correct size filter case. Not only yeah, but Hell, yeah!. I gave up on the little round thingies a long time ago. Ever leave a lens perched on a rock or log and walk off without it? Uh, no. If it came out of the bag, it goes into the bag. I have walked off without my camera bag with everything in it, though. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Diesel Prototype
mike wilson wrote: From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/24 Tue AM 12:22:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Diesel Prototype Doug Franklin wrote: Keith: shutter speed was only 1/250 and even the front wheel label (?) BREMBO is perfectly readable ~ not blurred! -- that's the hard part of doing those shots :-) I should add that it _was_ blurred, at least when viewed like that at 1:1. I think it's probably still acceptable at regular print magnifications. I assume (I've been away and just resubbed) that someone has pointed out that it is the _caliper_ label and is not part of the spinning wheel. Yes... That's one of those things that occur to you immediately after you press Send. [smacking forehead!] Oh well. If that's the worst embarrassment I ever suffer, I'll survive! ;-) keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: my Greece photos are online
Enjoyed these. Thanks for posting. Paul On Oct 24, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Amita Guha wrote: It would probably help if I included a URL. :) http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/2040336/ Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: lens quick change Q?
I've lined the bottom of my camera bag's lens compartments (shoulder bag) with a microfibre cloth (the sort used to clean spectacles) it is kind to the uv filters and have never had a scratch. In any case the lens hood usually ensures that the uv filter never comes into contact with the cloth. If otoh i'm using a lens without a uv filter then i religiously put the lens cap back on. As far as the rear cap I use the non bayonet type caps (like the ones) supplied with the FA50 1.4 these are practical and very quick to put on / remove. They have a tendency to fall off but i find they provide sufficient protection for a lens in a camera bag. I normally have a couple lying around the bag ready for a quick lens change. Rgds Patrick On 10/23/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes: When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do you replace the caps all the time? I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend. We were taking photos for a school project on urban areas. She's 8 so she's in a hurry to get moving all the time. At least until we'd been walking a couple hours and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every bench, stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses. I like to keep the caps on when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time. So, what do you do? Cory sick of looking at message subjects about surveys... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Diesel Prototype
On Oct 23, 2006, at 19:08, Doug Franklin wrote: Keith: shutter speed was only 1/250 and even the front wheel label (?) BREMBO is perfectly readable ~ not blurred! That would be a brake caliper BREMBO makes brake components. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Diesel Prototype
But Doug, the Lola is all wobbly looking...didn't you have your graduated anti-heat-shimmer filter fitted? Or perhaps the Lola was already starting to burn...(it later retired in a fairly decent-sized fire) Those Dyson guys just have bad luck. Good shot Doug, both of them. I'm still mad you can shoot from outside turn 1 like that :) CW missed the race for work, again. - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Diesel Prototype Doug Franklin wrote: DIAL UP WARNING: THIS IMAGE IS OVER 600,000 BYTES IN SIZE! http://nutdriver.org/IMGP1464.jpg Thanks for all of the great comments, folks. There have been so many I'd be here the rest of the night thanking everyone individually, so here's a collective thanks to all of you. :-) In response to Jon, yep, we're going to VIR this weekend to run a CCPS race in the RX-7. If we don't get a finish, we'll have to run the ARRC and get a finish there. Thanks for spotting the stuck pixel, Boris. Keith: shutter speed was only 1/250 and even the front wheel label (?) BREMBO is perfectly readable ~ not blurred! -- that's the hard part of doing those shots :-) It was also the 300/4.5 mounted on the *ist D. That's why I think SR could really help on the vertical shaking. The first couple of days I forgot my monopod and had to hand hold the 400/5.6 on the *ist D. Amazingly, I got a couple of usable shots that way. As to the Audi R-10, yep, it's hotter than heck. And amazingly quiet. The other cars would roar by, and the R-10s almost whooshed. And really fast when the conditions came to them, or maybe went away from the others. At one point near dusk, the first place R-10 was pulling 6 seconds a lap on the second place one, who was pulling 6 seconds a lap on the field. They were lapping faster than 1m 15s per lap. The lap record, set in an F1 car in a vintage race recently, is right at 1:10. Ok, this is a different photo from the same event (the Petit le Mans). I'll pull that one out and do it in smaller versions later. For now, here are some more desktop friendly (cropped) sizes of another one that I really liked. (136,149 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-800x600.jpg (223,985 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-1280x768.jpg (540,295 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-2401x1800.jpg (809,300 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-3038x2022.jpg That last one is the original from the camera. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/492 - Release Date: 10/23/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Optio E10
Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I got my Mother-in-law one a few months back. It was just fine. The biggest issue for her was the screen size was not overly big. But for a younger person, it would not really be an issue. Thanks Bruce. I notice Erin does not have to hold things at arms lenght, like someone else in the familyg. I'll give that one a go then. Price is right. Dave -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, October 23, 2006, 12:09:01 PM, you wrote: DJB Anyone using or used this camera. My daughter wants a PS over the DJB istD and Henry's is advertising them as an entry level camera. Seems DJB to have enough bells and whistles to keep her happy.:-) DJB $159 Canadian. DJB Dave DJB Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
On 10/22/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is a truism* that historically most artists, sculptors etc. are also men, and men are supposedly more visually-oriented than women. So a non-gearhead explanation could be that men are more likely to want to go out and take pictures. A better way to make your son a man amongst men (assuming that's something to be desired, which I think is highly debatable) is to teach him to like football beer. There are few sadder sights than a cluster of middle-aged men in beige peering longingly into the window of a camera shop. *this is not necessarily a direct result of any genetic differences, but could derive from the greater social power of men historically. While it may (or may not) be that a larger percentage of (so-called) serious photographers are men, I think it's true that in it's early days, a photography (at least in its higher levels) included a larger percentage of women than other visual arts. Think Margaret Bourke-White, Imogen Cunningham, Dorothea Lange, Tina Mondetti, Julia Cameron, Leni Reifenstal (a great photographer despite what may have been her politics). I've always thought that was because photography was, at the time, a relatively new medium, and was struggling to be accepted as a true art. There was less resistance to women participating as there wasn't so much of an establishment as there was in other artforms. Not only that, but as a newer artform, it may have naturally attracted women who had an artistic bent, but were effectively shut out from more established visual arts. Interesting that someone mentioned automobiles as a guy thing that rears it's head on this list on a more-than-regular basis. As most of you know, I'm an ardent cyclist. It's interesting that in it's infancy in the late 1800's, cycling (a new technology at the time) was embraced by women, and has been seen as a great liberating force, not just due to the freedom afforded by personal transportation, but due to the fact that bikes can't be ridden with high-button boots, long dresses and corsets. Physically liberating clothing was required, which was greatly resisted by many (if not most) males of the time. Many of the movements to allow women on bicycles (with appropriate dress) were direct forerunners of the suffragette movement and therefore women's liberation. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/24 Tue AM 11:52:43 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Your first camera On 10/22/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is a truism* that historically most artists, sculptors etc. are also men, and men are supposedly more visually-oriented than women. So a non-gearhead explanation could be that men are more likely to want to go out and take pictures. A better way to make your son a man amongst men (assuming that's something to be desired, which I think is highly debatable) is to teach him to like football beer. There are few sadder sights than a cluster of middle-aged men in beige peering longingly into the window of a camera shop. *this is not necessarily a direct result of any genetic differences, but could derive from the greater social power of men historically. While it may (or may not) be that a larger percentage of (so-called) serious photographers are men, I think it's true that in it's early days, a photography (at least in its higher levels) included a larger percentage of women than other visual arts. Think Margaret Bourke-White, Imogen Cunningham, Dorothea Lange, Tina Mondetti, Julia Cameron, Leni Reifenstal (a great photographer despite what may have been her politics). I've always thought that was because photography was, at the time, a relatively new medium, and was struggling to be accepted as a true art. There was less resistance to women participating as there wasn't so much of an establishment as there was in other artforms. Not only that, but as a newer artform, it may have naturally attracted women who had an artistic bent, but were effectively shut out from more established visual arts. Interesting that someone mentioned automobiles as a guy thing that rears it's head on this list on a more-than-regular basis. As most of you know, I'm an ardent cyclist. It's interesting that in it's infancy in the late 1800's, cycling (a new technology at the time) was embraced by women, and has been seen as a great liberating force, not just due to the freedom afforded by personal transportation, but due to the fact that bikes can't be ridden with high-button boots, long dresses and corsets. Physically liberating clothing was required, which was greatly resisted by many (if not most) males of the time. Many of the movements to allow women on bicycles (with appropriate dress) were direct forerunners of the suffragette movement and therefore women's liberation. I always wondered if Dubya might have had better luck in the long term by dropping Raleighs on Baghdad. Mil spec ones should cost about 20K, so everyone would be happy. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone checked this out yet?
The fellow who writes 400tx.blogspot.com posted some results with the 30/1.4 and k100D a while back. Not bad, but not stunning either. -Adam Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: Sigma 30/1.4 for Pentax! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=433041is=REGaddedTroughType=search Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Camera/Laptop travel cases
Hi Doug, On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:43:24 -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: I have a Lowepro 'CompuTrekker' for that purpose. It has a seperate laptop area (upto 16 inch I think) and enough room for a DSLR with a few lenses. Do you think it's big enough for a body plus 16-45/4, 50-200/4-5.6(?), 300/4.5, and 200/2.8? No problem at all, I just tested it to be sure :-) I can have the FA* 400mm f/4.6 on one side, the FA* 200mm f/2.8, then the camera with the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 in the middle and have room to spare for a 16-45mm or 50-200mm ... I even have been carrying the camera with mounted A* 300mm f/2.8 in that one, which stretches it a bit (litterally :-) and does not leave room for another larger lens, it works but is a bit over the edge :-) The (photo-side) interiour is 30cm wide, 34..37cm long and has a height of just over 10cm. The main problem with this set of lenses is that two of them are really big diameter (with hoods) and one is bigger than average. As long as they are not much wider than 10cm you should be OK. In other words, the length isn't usually the problem, the girth is. Understand, but the 200mm and 300mm would not be bigger than the pair I just tested, and you can even choose to have one lens on the camera, or have them each on one side ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
mike wilson wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/24 Tue AM 11:52:43 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Your first camera On 10/22/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is a truism* that historically most artists, sculptors etc. are also men, and men are supposedly more visually-oriented than women. So a non-gearhead explanation could be that men are more likely to want to go out and take pictures. A better way to make your son a man amongst men (assuming that's something to be desired, which I think is highly debatable) is to teach him to like football beer. There are few sadder sights than a cluster of middle-aged men in beige peering longingly into the window of a camera shop. *this is not necessarily a direct result of any genetic differences, but could derive from the greater social power of men historically. While it may (or may not) be that a larger percentage of (so-called) serious photographers are men, I think it's true that in it's early days, a photography (at least in its higher levels) included a larger percentage of women than other visual arts. Think Margaret Bourke-White, Imogen Cunningham, Dorothea Lange, Tina Mondetti, Julia Cameron, Leni Reifenstal (a great photographer despite what may have been her politics). I've always thought that was because photography was, at the time, a relatively new medium, and was struggling to be accepted as a true art. There was less resistance to women participating as there wasn't so much of an establishment as there was in other artforms. Not only that, but as a newer artform, it may have naturally attracted women who had an artistic bent, but were effectively shut out from more established visual arts. Interesting that someone mentioned automobiles as a guy thing that rears it's head on this list on a more-than-regular basis. As most of you know, I'm an ardent cyclist. It's interesting that in it's infancy in the late 1800's, cycling (a new technology at the time) was embraced by women, and has been seen as a great liberating force, not just due to the freedom afforded by personal transportation, but due to the fact that bikes can't be ridden with high-button boots, long dresses and corsets. Physically liberating clothing was required, which was greatly resisted by many (if not most) males of the time. Many of the movements to allow women on bicycles (with appropriate dress) were direct forerunners of the suffragette movement and therefore women's liberation. I always wondered if Dubya might have had better luck in the long term by dropping Raleighs on Baghdad. Mil spec ones should cost about 20K, so everyone would be happy. Actually, the MilSpec bikes cost about $600, but they fold for Airborne use. This actually came up in a thread on a forum I read often (About what to do the next time some idjit E-6 requisitions a 'vehicle' instead of a truck, the suggestion was to issue a pink girl's bike). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Leccinum Aurantiacum (mushrooms :-)
Thanks everybody for all the favourable comments on my 'fungi' shots! Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Feather River Barn
Thanks, Bruce. I think I understand what you're saying. It's more of a shed than a typical hay barn. I have a couple others I may put up later. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, The colors are striking and the composition is quite good for this barn. I think what makes it not quite a stunner is that the barn is just too ... if I think of it, I'll say it. Maybe it is the asymmetrical look to it or something. Good, but no among your best. -- Bruce Monday, October 23, 2006, 4:42:26 PM, you wrote: JD The Feather River Canyon reaches from a spot not too far from Oroville, JD CA to just below the Sierra town of Quincy, CA. JD A traditional fall drive has been to take hwy #70 its length. Not JD having gotten to it this fall, I dug up one from a few years back. JD Hopefully I'll soon get to check to see if this shot can still be JD taken. JD LX, A-28~80 f/3.5-4.5. (Don't recall the film). only about 0.8 JD Saturated. Don't know if it needed any.(?) JD Comments welcome! JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=190 JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Simple Macro
Hi Bruce, On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:43:02 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: I was hiking with a friend a couple of days ago. The lighting of this really caught my eye. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3580.htm Indeed, very nice light (like many of your shots have!) I like it better than the 'Dare to be different one', feel the urge of cropping coming up there :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Feather River Barn
Thanks. I know what you mean about closer shots. Love all aspects of aging barns. It is a cliche, but it's a fall icon and I thought the timing was right. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great subject, but I think I would have gone for closer shots of individual structure details. As posted it's kinda nice but common. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Feather River Barn The Feather River Canyon reaches from a spot not too far from Oroville, CA to just below the Sierra town of Quincy, CA. A traditional fall drive has been to take hwy #70 its length. Not having gotten to it this fall, I dug up one from a few years back. Hopefully I'll soon get to check to see if this shot can still be taken. LX, A-28~80 f/3.5-4.5. (Don't recall the film). only about 0.8 Saturated. Don't know if it needed any.(?) Comments welcome! Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=190 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Diesel Prototype
Trying to view an image that is several times as large as the computer screen is simply annoying. The two that I could view reasonably were quite good however. Dan M On 10/23/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: DIAL UP WARNING: THIS IMAGE IS OVER 600,000 BYTES IN SIZE! http://nutdriver.org/IMGP1464.jpg Thanks for all of the great comments, folks. There have been so many I'd be here the rest of the night thanking everyone individually, so here's a collective thanks to all of you. :-) In response to Jon, yep, we're going to VIR this weekend to run a CCPS race in the RX-7. If we don't get a finish, we'll have to run the ARRC and get a finish there. Thanks for spotting the stuck pixel, Boris. Keith: shutter speed was only 1/250 and even the front wheel label (?) BREMBO is perfectly readable ~ not blurred! -- that's the hard part of doing those shots :-) It was also the 300/4.5 mounted on the *ist D. That's why I think SR could really help on the vertical shaking. The first couple of days I forgot my monopod and had to hand hold the 400/5.6 on the *ist D. Amazingly, I got a couple of usable shots that way. As to the Audi R-10, yep, it's hotter than heck. And amazingly quiet. The other cars would roar by, and the R-10s almost whooshed. And really fast when the conditions came to them, or maybe went away from the others. At one point near dusk, the first place R-10 was pulling 6 seconds a lap on the second place one, who was pulling 6 seconds a lap on the field. They were lapping faster than 1m 15s per lap. The lap record, set in an F1 car in a vintage race recently, is right at 1:10. Ok, this is a different photo from the same event (the Petit le Mans). I'll pull that one out and do it in smaller versions later. For now, here are some more desktop friendly (cropped) sizes of another one that I really liked. (136,149 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-800x600.jpg (223,985 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-1280x768.jpg (540,295 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-2401x1800.jpg (809,300 bytes) http://NutDriver.org/IMGP2279-3038x2022.jpg That last one is the original from the camera. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo
Nice photo! I found St Mark's Square to be much more enjoyable in the evening, when most of the tourists and most of the pigeons have gone elsewhere to roost. Dan M On 10/22/06, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife wanted to feed the pigeons: http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/6997754 Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OZ K10D Price
I'd be interested to know where this was from too... not that I've got a price yet, but for comparison it would be useful. Thanks, Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday - Original Message - From: Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: Re: OZ K10D Price Hi Dave, Can you tell me which shop that was at? I got a price of $1500 from Camera Action in Melbourne and I figured that was about $100 or so too high. I want to go to them in person and some alternate prices would be useful. I'm after the body only but want to get a 12 - 24 as well so I should be able to bargain the price a little. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon David Savage wrote: FYI Aussie PDML'ers, I just received this from my local camera store: $1349 - K10D Body only $1589 - K10D with Pentax 18-55mm Lens $1799 - K10D with Pentax 16-45mm Lens $359 - Grip D-BG2 And as far as they were aware stock would be available in the first week of November (we'll see). Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Simple Macro
- Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: PESO - Simple Macro OOF flower head? All three are lousy with teeny, tiny hair-like fuzz needles, that are quite clearly delineated. Some of them couldn't be more than .001-.002 in diameter, yet Bruce and his hand-held lens captured them well. There is an out of focus artifact top right, just above and to the right of the flower which I find really distracting. I couldn't see any artifact, even when enlarging the image quite a bit. Not 'above and to the right.' What form does this 'artifact' take? See: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/bkd_3580_std.jpg William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
I second that emotion! Dan M On 10/22/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please Don't Feed The Imbecile : Don't respond to JCO, don't respond to this thread, don't respond to anything else he posts. Filter all his posts to the trash. To be blunt, the PDML list will be a waste of time until the bastard croaks if you let him dominate everything with incessant, repetitious stupidity. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: lens quick change Q?
Sounds like most people use the hoods to protect the lens, which begs the question: do you use hoods on *all* your lenses? I currently only have hoods on my DA18-55, and DA50-200. I don't have hoods for the primes. dk On 10/24/06, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lined the bottom of my camera bag's lens compartments (shoulder bag) with a microfibre cloth (the sort used to clean spectacles) it is kind to the uv filters and have never had a scratch. In any case the lens hood usually ensures that the uv filter never comes into contact with the cloth. If otoh i'm using a lens without a uv filter then i religiously put the lens cap back on. As far as the rear cap I use the non bayonet type caps (like the ones) supplied with the FA50 1.4 these are practical and very quick to put on / remove. They have a tendency to fall off but i find they provide sufficient protection for a lens in a camera bag. I normally have a couple lying around the bag ready for a quick lens change. Rgds Patrick On 10/23/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes: When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do you replace the caps all the time? I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend. We were taking photos for a school project on urban areas. She's 8 so she's in a hurry to get moving all the time. At least until we'd been walking a couple hours and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every bench, stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses. I like to keep the caps on when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time. So, what do you do? Cory sick of looking at message subjects about surveys... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Anyone checked this out yet?
I hadn't see Jeffery's page on this, thanks for the pointer. The full link to his blog article is http://400tx.blogspot.com/2006/09/pentax-k100d-and-sigma-3014-dc- ex.html or http://tinyurl.com/yetby8 Godfrey On Oct 24, 2006, at 5:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote: The fellow who writes 400tx.blogspot.com posted some results with the 30/1.4 and k100D a while back. Not bad, but not stunning either. Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: Sigma 30/1.4 for Pentax! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=433041is=REGaddedTroughType=search -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USA tour 2004 now online
Thanks for the compliment Dan! Another one coming up in a day or so ... Regards, JvW (Slowly getting rid of several years of backlog :-) On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:09:51 -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A very nice portfolio indeed! You were certainly able to capture the feeling of the places that you visited. From a trip I made in October 2004, from Chicago to Niagara falls, Michigan lower and upper peninsula, along the Mississippi to St Louis, over the plains to Denver Colorado and back to Chicago. http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=10 -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USA tour 2004 now online
A very nice portfolio indeed! You were certainly able to capture the feeling of the places that you visited. Thaks for posting these. Dan M - Original Message - From: Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO: USA tour 2004 now online From a trip I made in October 2004, from Chicago to Niagara falls, Michigan upper and lower peninsula, along the Mississippi to St Louis, over the plains to Denver Colorado and back to Chicago. A selection of the many images made with the *istD during those three weeks. http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=10 Note: Gallery is 117 images, with a total size of 18Mb, 100..200 Kb per image. The index pages are small though and easy to navigate. (there is a slideshow option as well :-) Comments welcome, both on the images and the gallery layout and navigation :-) Enjoy! Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:views from Arosa in Graubuenden Switzerland
Great shots Marcus! I always enjoy very much your Swiss landscapes. Dan M On 10/22/06, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to Arosa for 3 days at the beginning of october into the Hotel www.praval.ch for a computer job and had more than a day spare time to take some photographs. I took the ME Super with Pentax M100mm and Pentax A50mm macro and one P30 with the Pentax A24mm and some rolls of Superia 200 with me. I show you 3 typical views of Arosa. (I made a lot of detail and macro photos even during the night in Arosa too ;-) a view from the Hotel Praval terrace: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5110263 a view from graveyard of the old mountain chapel on Arosa: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5110211 a view from the top of the mountains: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5110285 greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: lens quick change Q?
If the lens came with a hood yes, otherwise no. Dave On 10/24/06, Dave Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like most people use the hoods to protect the lens, which begs the question: do you use hoods on *all* your lenses? I currently only have hoods on my DA18-55, and DA50-200. I don't have hoods for the primes. dk On 10/24/06, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lined the bottom of my camera bag's lens compartments (shoulder bag) with a microfibre cloth (the sort used to clean spectacles) it is kind to the uv filters and have never had a scratch. In any case the lens hood usually ensures that the uv filter never comes into contact with the cloth. If otoh i'm using a lens without a uv filter then i religiously put the lens cap back on. As far as the rear cap I use the non bayonet type caps (like the ones) supplied with the FA50 1.4 these are practical and very quick to put on / remove. They have a tendency to fall off but i find they provide sufficient protection for a lens in a camera bag. I normally have a couple lying around the bag ready for a quick lens change. Rgds Patrick On 10/23/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes: When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do you replace the caps all the time? I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend. We were taking photos for a school project on urban areas. She's 8 so she's in a hurry to get moving all the time. At least until we'd been walking a couple hours and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every bench, stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses. I like to keep the caps on when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time. So, what do you do? Cory sick of looking at message subjects about surveys... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: lens quick change Q?
Not currently, but that's more a matter of needing to buy more hoods. Unfortunately my local stores mostly stock rubber hoods, which I don't use. So I'm adding hoods as I come across good metal or plastic screw-in hoods. I also buy bayonet hoods for lenses that support them but didn't come with them. -Adam Dave Kennedy wrote: Sounds like most people use the hoods to protect the lens, which begs the question: do you use hoods on *all* your lenses? I currently only have hoods on my DA18-55, and DA50-200. I don't have hoods for the primes. dk On 10/24/06, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lined the bottom of my camera bag's lens compartments (shoulder bag) with a microfibre cloth (the sort used to clean spectacles) it is kind to the uv filters and have never had a scratch. In any case the lens hood usually ensures that the uv filter never comes into contact with the cloth. If otoh i'm using a lens without a uv filter then i religiously put the lens cap back on. As far as the rear cap I use the non bayonet type caps (like the ones) supplied with the FA50 1.4 these are practical and very quick to put on / remove. They have a tendency to fall off but i find they provide sufficient protection for a lens in a camera bag. I normally have a couple lying around the bag ready for a quick lens change. Rgds Patrick On 10/23/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes: When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do you replace the caps all the time? I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend. We were taking photos for a school project on urban areas. She's 8 so she's in a hurry to get moving all the time. At least until we'd been walking a couple hours and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every bench, stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses. I like to keep the caps on when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time. So, what do you do? Cory sick of looking at message subjects about surveys... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Bruce Dayton wrote: Sorry - could be considered a little Dayton-esque Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 800, 1/180 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3405.htm Comments welcome Like the colors and sharpness, but the composition is so-so. You can eat those flowers in salad you know. They also attract hummingbirds really well. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Boring day, good colors...
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20061024155215 A boring day in colors with Tamron. Weather only gives me few hours every day before cold showers, so I'm using this time to find new sports to photograph in my hometown. Today I used manual focus, because I'm forgetting that nice feeling to hit the spot and then slightly refocus forth and back to assure its the right spot. Tamron lense is very nice in manual mode, zoom ring is lil tight, or I'm just used to old pentax lense I used. Scenes may be boring, but colors aren't and that makes it worth the effort. Due to many requests I added macro test sample picture to my Tamron 70-300mm visual test page. -- new photos ever so often... http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
[second try] K10D official prices in France
An official information published on Clubic (www.clubic.com) yesterday: K10D still scheduled for early november. Available in 4 different options, with official prices: K10D body: 899 euros K10D + 18-55: 999 euros K10D + 18-55 + 50-200: 1199 euros K10D + 16-45: 1299 euros. The kit with 16-45 is not very intersting on a money POV IMO. They also have a database of shops with price etc.. The lowest advertised price is currently 830,20 euros from Amazon.fr and 859,00 from Digibao (mentionned 'cos I bought my D from them and have been happy with them). Take care. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: lens quick change Q?
All my lenses have a lens hood fitted on them semi-permanently with the exception of the A50/2.8 Macro, which has such a deeply inset front element that for most purposes a hood is unnecessary. I use screw in metal lens hoods for every lens that was not supplied with at least a rigid plastic lens hood. BH Photo stocks generic screw-in metal lens hoods (usually Kalt brand) for very reasonable money (about $10 apiece). There are also tons of applicable lens hoods available in good dealers' used bits bins ... I use a Nikon HN-7 and an Olympus Zuiko 28/3.5 for two of my lenses (FA135 and DA21 respectively) that I purchased for about $1 apiece that way. Good metal lens hoods for tele, normal and wide angle field of view from B+W and other top brands cost $25-40. I have one of those in tele model on the FA77. Godfrey On Oct 24, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Dave Kennedy wrote: Sounds like most people use the hoods to protect the lens, which begs the question: do you use hoods on *all* your lenses? I currently only have hoods on my DA18-55, and DA50-200. I don't have hoods for the primes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USA tour 2004 now online
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's behind! I still have several hundred negatives from my 1996 trip to the UK and Europe to go through. ;-) Good travelogue, you caught a feeling in many of them that is compelling. Godfrey On Oct 24, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: Thanks for the compliment Dan! Another one coming up in a day or so ... Regards, JvW (Slowly getting rid of several years of backlog :-) On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:09:51 -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A very nice portfolio indeed! You were certainly able to capture the feeling of the places that you visited. From a trip I made in October 2004, from Chicago to Niagara falls, Michigan lower and upper peninsula, along the Mississippi to St Louis, over the plains to Denver Colorado and back to Chicago. http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: lens quick change Q?
On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Dave Kennedy wrote: Sounds like most people use the hoods to protect the lens, which begs the question: do you use hoods on *all* your lenses? I currently only have hoods on my DA18-55, and DA50-200. I don't have hoods for the primes. You need a hood on any lens. At least if you want the best performance from the lens. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: [second try] K10D official prices in France
Got them both :-) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: [second try] K10D official prices in France
I didn't see it in the archive so reposted ;) BTW in Switzerland in should be out on the 27th october at about 650 euros !!! (not counting TVA that should add it on top of it if you wanna play legal which is what you should do ^^ ) 2006/10/24, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Got them both :-) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: my Greece photos are online
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 24 October 2006 08:35 To: pentax list Subject: Re: my Greece photos are online On 24/10/06, Amita Guha, discombobulated, unleashed: It would probably help if I included a URL. :) http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/2040336/ Lovely stuff, well done Amita. I agree. Much better than my shots of Greece. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: my Greece photos are online
Hi! Here are my photos from Greece. There are 85 - and that was after lots of editing! Hope you enjoy. Amita, it is really a pity you couldn't make that extra mile... Well, judging from your photos I may be easily able to arrange for really good time for you here. Steady on, Boris... Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Selling my ist-D
I'm selling my ist-D because you know why :) It is still under european warranty (until sometimes in May) and has been insured. It comes with the battery grip. Everything in VERY good state and has been used normally: a few thousands pictures, not more. I have no use for my CF cards so I will give'em with it (1GB, 4GB MicroDrive). I can also throw in my DA18-55, SMC-F35-70 and SMC-F70-210. Make me an offer I can't refuse :) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
What is it about Toronto...
...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ g -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: lens quick change Q?
Sounds like most people use the hoods to protect the lens, which begs the question: do you use hoods on *all* your lenses? Yes -- Cheers, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The JCO survey
John. This is none of my business. Despite this, I kindly do suggest that you reread Shel's post. The way read him he does not suggest, or not even hint, that you have ripped him off or tried to rip him off in any way. All he claims is that you responded in an abusive and aggressive way, when he said the front element was loose. No more, no less. When seeing the language you have used in your response here, I have no problem imagining what kind of language he is referring to. Basically what he says, is that he dislikes being verbally abused. I'm not Shel, but I guess that's why he does not want to do business with you any more. This I can sympathise with. Abusive language makes me feel uncomfortable too. This said. Based on what I have seen here, I have no reason not to make business with you. But I do think Shel has a very valid point in his third paragraph. It seems that you are not fully aware how your language and general list behaviour come across. Remember; this is a family list. Children, and others, might get scared. I can hardly imagine that's your purpose. In the name of just. I also do think Shel could have made a better example. IMO it would have been more appropriate choosing something public, not personal, something from the list. One more point, also in the name of just. John is not the only one using abusive language in this so called aperture simulator threads. I could name others. You know who you are; this is a family list, remember? At the beginning of the debate I must admit that I was kind of amused. But that changed after about 100 posts. Now it is a total waste. All this swearing and aggression over a camera feature, a dead thing. This really saddens me. And folks (I'm addressing all now), if you have to swear, why don't use some creativity and come up with some colourful swearing? If swearing in black and white; please put some effort in the rendering ;-) Peace and love, Tim ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 24. oktober 2006 02:30 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The JCO survey Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I've not used any such tones with you. You have done so with others as well, often calling people dumb or idiots, and worse, for expressing their opinions, especially those opinions run counter to yours. You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I have gotten fed up with you and replied in kind. Regardless of how people address you, you can choose to be civil, but you don't. In fact, one of the list members noted that he's left the list several times because of your posts. He wasn't even writing to you, just posting a general message. Your comment was Screw you, dude ... (See below) I think that your foul mouth and abusive language are so much a part of you that you aren't even fully aware of what you say or how you come across. When I bought the K50/1.4 from you on eBay, and told you the front element was lose, you replied with a challenging, abusive email. Of course, I'll never do business with you again. Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
frank theriault wrote: While it may (or may not) be that a larger percentage of (so-called) serious photographers are men, I think it's true that in it's early days, a photography (at least in its higher levels) included a larger percentage of women than other visual arts. Think Margaret Bourke-White Shall I taunt you again about the great Maragret Bourke-White exhibit we had in Pittsburgh last year? :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: my Greece photos are online
Hi! Amita, it is really a pity you couldn't make that extra mile... Well, judging from your photos I may be easily able to arrange for really good time for you here. Steady on, Boris... Bob, I am unfamiliar with this figure of speech. Mind if I ask you to explain. Off-list will be fine. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
In a message dated 10/24/2006 12:11:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have bought my son (15 years) several cameras - film as well as digital. He shows no interest in photography. But both of my daughters (grown up) do photograph - one of them sometimes uses a Super A :-) Regards Jens Bladt === Cool. Way to go. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:26:44 +0100, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what do you call someone who Comes to a MUTUAL agreement on A business matter and then goes On to tell hundreds of people I ripped him off? That's incredible. He refused a full refund I offered and accepted A partial refund. Now he has the Freaking nerve to insinuate that I somehow ripped him off? That's Totally unfreaking believable. You're quite right. It isn't believable. And the reason for that is that it's not true. All Shel said was that you responded very aggressively. This we can all believe. You know no other way. To say that he told hundreds of people that [you] ripped him off is a lie. Therefore, you are a liar. An aggressive liar. A foul-mouthed, aggressive liar. An incoherent, whingeing, insensitive, stupid, irrational, foul-mouthed, aggressive liar. But don't worry, Kostas loves you. John I take ebay customer matters very seriously And I don't think that saying something Like that after what actully happened is Even remotely correct thing to do. It's massive Slander. He was just taking a super cheap shot At me for reasons I do not know but That was just way too God Damn over the Line. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey Your a class act John. Dave At 08:30 AM 24/10/2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I've not used any such tones with you. You have done so with others as well, often calling people dumb or idiots, and worse, for expressing their opinions, especially those opinions run counter to yours. You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I have gotten fed up with you and replied in kind. Regardless of how people address you, you can choose to be civil, but you don't. In fact, one of the list members noted that he's left the list several times because of your posts. He wasn't even writing to you, just posting a general message. Your comment was Screw you, dude ... (See below) I think that your foul mouth and abusive language are so much a part of you that you aren't even fully aware of what you say or how you come across. When I bought the K50/1.4 from you on eBay, and told you the front element was lose, you replied with a challenging, abusive email. Of course, I'll never do business with you again. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell My replies are of the same tone as the posts Directed at me. I never start with the name Calling but I will certainly volley. jco -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff How about because of your vile, disgusting language and rude behavior. It's one thing to argue incessantly over the same point, but your style isn't fit for continuous human consumption. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell Screw You, dude. I don't see any reason why anyone Would need/want to leave the list because of my posts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The JCO survey
I never said we didn't settle things - just that your comments were challenging (you accused me of damaging the lens) abusive. Your post below is indicative of how you verbally attack and treat people. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 10/23/2006 5:34:39 PM Subject: RE: The JCO survey Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/22/2006 8:43:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it is a truism* that historically most artists, sculptors etc. are also men, and men are supposedly more visually-oriented than women. So a non-gearhead explanation could be that men are more likely to want to go out and take pictures. == Phsaw, phooey, and crap. Double crap. Culturally over the centuries women were held back from becoming artists, etc. Had to have babies and feed the male hordes, including male artists and sculptors, etc. Their place was in the home, they had smaller brains, they were illogical, all emotional, couldn't manage complicated tasks, understand technical things, etc. For instance, I grew up when there were no women news anchors on TV, and the most available jobs for women were: teacher, teller, stewardress, nurse, and social worker -- the helper fields. It hasn't been all that long since gender prejudices were socially acceptable and active. And in some instances still are, although women have made a lot of progress since the 1960's. And I am still only talking about Western cultures, since those prejudices are still quite active, barring women from jobs, in other cultures. So now that Western women are supposedly liberated and supposedly can hold any job, get back to me in another 200-1,000 years and see if those artist/photographer percentages haven't changed. If you want you daughters to grow up enjoying photography, hand them a camera young. I have three daughters. The two older ones took a photography course when they were 15 and 11 respectively. I bought them both a nice PS 35mm film camera for the course. At a birthday, I passed on one of my Pentax SLR film cameras and some lenses to the oldest, she has contributed to the PUG and in PDML discussions in the past. The youngest then got interested and I got her the Optio-S when she turned 10. After that initial enthuthiasm, she has not picked up the camera in years. The middle daughter got herself a PZ-10 + 2 zooms on eBay, and uses it occasionally, and now wants to go digital. I may get her a K100D for her birthday in a few months. As a female programmer, a very small minority in that field in my age group, I am pretty familiar with gender stereotypes and unconscious assumptions and prejudices. I know what some of these assumptions and prejudices are, and in raising my girls, we avoided any bias towards any gender specific toys. They still gravitated towards dolls, role playing, etc. They all have had difficulty mastering advanced math past puberty, but have done brilliantly in literary arts. Of course this is just a datapoint and I'm not making generalizations, but I was surprised by this trend in my own girls despite our heroic efforts to tutor them Trig, Calculus, etc when they were having an extremely hard time. Arts and Crafts, quilting, needlepoint, lace making, sewing, etc. were socially acceptable visual fields for women for centuries. They couldn't lift a brush, not appropriate for most past eras and places, but, boy, they were allowed to lift a needle. Have a Nice Day!, Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
In a message dated 10/24/2006 12:15:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Women have too much practal sence (or sence of responsibility), to spend hours every week, reading and writing to people you don't really know (I onlly met Jostien in person, until now) - in stead of doing something useful around the house :-) === That's really it. A lot of women are busy with husbands, children, and other family members, too busy to waste time spending hours on a list. Take ERN who left to spend more time with her family. You will find this prevalent throughout the Net, not just on this list. Women are more busy with relationships on the whole. Less argumentative on the whole (these are all vast generalizations), and don't spend a lot of time debating issues in various forums. There are exceptions, but that's the general rule. Also men DO tend to be gear heads while women don't. I am pretty uninterested in most of the technical camera threads on list. I read some, not all, depending if I feel it will concern me at some point. I am much more interested in photos and OT threads than lots of the other threads. I am also interested in computer stuff, PS and printers profiles, etc., because I am a computer buff. But to say women are not visual oriented is just phooey. That seems to be fairly equally divided between the genders, it just depends on what fields they have been allowed, over the centuries, to express themselves in. And there have been a fair number of famous women photographers anyway. Also, look at Hollywood, more and more, given the chance, women are becoming directors, producers, etc. But they have to have the chance first. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: [second try] K10D official prices in France
At about $1.25 to to the euro, that's not that amazing a price. Once you add in the taxes... Thibouille wrote: I didn't see it in the archive so reposted ;) BTW in Switzerland in should be out on the 27th october at about 650 euros !!! (not counting TVA that should add it on top of it if you wanna play legal which is what you should do ^^ ) 2006/10/24, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Got them both :-) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The JCO survey
I never used any abusive language with him On the ebay thingy. Secondly, the front Element WAS NOT LOOSE AND WAS NEVER LOOSE. That Would ba GROSS oversight And major defect. The Front filter ring was very slightly loose But the front element was fine. The dispute Was over something very minor. Its a 5 minute Job and very easy to fix that. I never accused anyone of damaging the lens In question. Sometimes buyers claim weeks After delivery the item is damaged and in Those cases I might suggest it was user Caused damage but I dont recall that being The case here. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:36 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The JCO survey John. This is none of my business. Despite this, I kindly do suggest that you reread Shel's post. The way read him he does not suggest, or not even hint, that you have ripped him off or tried to rip him off in any way. All he claims is that you responded in an abusive and aggressive way, when he said the front element was loose. No more, no less. When seeing the language you have used in your response here, I have no problem imagining what kind of language he is referring to. Basically what he says, is that he dislikes being verbally abused. I'm not Shel, but I guess that's why he does not want to do business with you any more. This I can sympathise with. Abusive language makes me feel uncomfortable too. This said. Based on what I have seen here, I have no reason not to make business with you. But I do think Shel has a very valid point in his third paragraph. It seems that you are not fully aware how your language and general list behaviour come across. Remember; this is a family list. Children, and others, might get scared. I can hardly imagine that's your purpose. In the name of just. I also do think Shel could have made a better example. IMO it would have been more appropriate choosing something public, not personal, something from the list. One more point, also in the name of just. John is not the only one using abusive language in this so called aperture simulator threads. I could name others. You know who you are; this is a family list, remember? At the beginning of the debate I must admit that I was kind of amused. But that changed after about 100 posts. Now it is a total waste. All this swearing and aggression over a camera feature, a dead thing. This really saddens me. And folks (I'm addressing all now), if you have to swear, why don't use some creativity and come up with some colourful swearing? If swearing in black and white; please put some effort in the rendering ;-) Peace and love, Tim ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 24. oktober 2006 02:30 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The JCO survey Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I've not used any such tones with you. You have done so with others as well, often calling people dumb or idiots, and worse, for expressing their opinions, especially those opinions run counter to yours. You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I have gotten fed up with you and replied in kind. Regardless of how people address you, you can choose to be civil, but you don't. In fact, one of the list members noted that he's left the list several times because of your posts. He wasn't even writing to you, just posting a general message. Your comment was Screw you, dude ... (See below) I think that your foul mouth and
Re: The JCO survey
I am getting really blank blank blank tired of the testosterone on this list. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and many actually agree with JCO. OTOH, bear baiting someone who may have, probably has, a real problem is seriously lacking in compassion and understanding. Men being mean, er, I mean men -- men butting each other's heads -- I can live without it. It's also become old. Very, very, very old. Please drop it. Good thing I am going a trip soon. Marnie aka Doe Sigh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
In a message dated 10/23/2006 2:22:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry - could be considered a little Dayton-esque Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 800, 1/180 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3405.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce = Dayton-esque is fine. I really like it, Bruce! No criticisms. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The JCO survey
Read my post again. I never said you ripped me off. I only said that your communication with me was abusive and rude. The point of my comment was to show you by example how you come across to people and how you treat them. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 10/23/2006 6:28:51 PM Subject: RE: The JCO survey And what do you call someone who Comes to a MUTUAL agreement on A business matter and then goes On to tell hundreds of people I ripped him off? That's incredible. He refused a full refund I offered and accepted A partial refund. Now he has the Freaking nerve to insinuate that I somehow ripped him off? That's Totally unfreaking believable. I take ebay customer matters very seriously And I don't think that saying something Like that after what actully happened is Even remotely correct thing to do. It's massive Slander. He was just taking a super cheap shot At me for reasons I do not know but That was just way too God Damn over the Line. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey Your a class act John. Dave At 08:30 AM 24/10/2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I've not used any such tones with you. You have done so with others as well, often calling people dumb or idiots, and worse, for expressing their opinions, especially those opinions run counter to yours. You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I have gotten fed up with you and replied in kind. Regardless of how people address you, you can choose to be civil, but you don't. In fact, one of the list members noted that he's left the list several times because of your posts. He wasn't even writing to you, just posting a general message. Your comment was Screw you, dude ... (See below) I think that your foul mouth and abusive language are so much a part of you that you aren't even fully aware of what you say or how you come across. When I bought the K50/1.4 from you on eBay, and told you the front element was lose, you replied with a challenging, abusive email. Of course, I'll never do business with you again. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell My replies are of the same tone as the posts Directed at me. I never start with the name Calling but I will certainly volley. jco -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff How about because of your vile, disgusting language and rude behavior. It's one thing to argue incessantly over the same point, but your style isn't fit for continuous human consumption. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell Screw You, dude. I don't see any reason why anyone Would need/want to leave the list because of my posts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
I couldn't tell you since I don't see a picture of someone on a bicycle. What I get is a texture in red. Mark Roberts wrote: ...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ g -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
Amen sister Marnie GROUP HUG.Kumbaya time. Let's move on folks Love ya all, mean it. Can't wait to get my hands on a K10Dand just think what else is in the pipelineimagine what Pentax will market in two short yearsnow, that should do ittitle of the next thread: Imagine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting really blank blank blank tired of the testosterone on this list. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and many actually agree with JCO. OTOH, bear baiting someone who may have, probably has, a real problem is seriously lacking in compassion and understanding. Men being mean, er, I mean men -- men butting each other's heads -- I can live without it. It's also become old. Very, very, very old. Please drop it. Good thing I am going a trip soon. Marnie aka Doe Sigh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Simple Macro
In a message dated 10/23/2006 9:46:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was hiking with a friend a couple of days ago. The lighting of this really caught my eye. Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3580.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce = It's okay, Bruce. But not as good as most. I like it when you see some theme in the shot -- your Bruce sees poetry in nature bit. For me, there is nothing that distinctive about this one. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Feather River Barn
In a message dated 10/23/2006 4:44:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Feather River Canyon reaches from a spot not too far from Oroville, CA to just below the Sierra town of Quincy, CA. A traditional fall drive has been to take hwy #70 its length. Not having gotten to it this fall, I dug up one from a few years back. Hopefully I'll soon get to check to see if this shot can still be taken. LX, A-28~80 f/3.5-4.5. (Don't recall the film). only about 0.8 Saturated. Don't know if it needed any.(?) Comments welcome! Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=190 = Nice, Jack. Like the colors. The sky is very, very blue, if it were mine, I might desaturate that area just a tad. But nice fall colors. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
In a message dated 10/24/2006 8:53:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have three daughters. The two older ones took a photography course when they were 15 and 11 respectively. I bought them both a nice PS 35mm film camera for the course. At a birthday, I passed on one of my Pentax SLR film cameras and some lenses to the oldest, she has contributed to the PUG and in PDML discussions in the past. The youngest then got interested and I got her the Optio-S when she turned 10. After that initial enthuthiasm, she has not picked up the camera in years. The middle daughter got herself a PZ-10 + 2 zooms on eBay, and uses it occasionally, and now wants to go digital. I may get her a K100D for her birthday in a few months. = Neat. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: The JCO survey This said. Based on what I have seen here, I have no reason not to make business with you. Unless you end up with a defective product, anyway But I do think Shel has a very valid point in his third paragraph. It seems that you are not fully aware how your language and general list behaviour come across. Remember; this is a family list. Children, and others, might get scared. I can hardly imagine that's your purpose. JCO is an eBay vendor. Vendor reputations are based not only on the product they sell, but how they deal with customer service issues. If a vedor treats his custmers like crap ( I am presuming Shel is being truthful based on JCO's conduct on list), then he has every right (and perhaps a duty to warn his friends) to tell the world he was badly treated. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: What is it about Toronto... ...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ Too much granola in their diets makes them too weak to hold a camera steady. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
P. J. Alling wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: ...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ I couldn't tell you since I don't see a picture of someone on a bicycle. What I get is a texture in red. Aargh! That's one of those web pages that serves up a different image every time you load it. *Very* bad usability design - I'll fail any student who does that in my web design course! Anyway, everyone is going to see a different image when they visit this page and depending on how many images they hav in rotation, it may be difficult or impossible to get to the one I originally saw. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
On 10/24/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ g Pt!! Mark!! Here in Canada, we call those canoes... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
On 10/24/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shall I taunt you again about the great Maragret Bourke-White exhibit we had in Pittsburgh last year? :-) Go ahead, taunt me. I don't mind... g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
I tried it again, now I get a barn wall. frank theriault wrote: On 10/24/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ g Pt!! Mark!! Here in Canada, we call those canoes... cheers, frank -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
Very Theriaultian, I think its the knarf syndrome. Perry Pellechia wrote: I managed to find it for you: http://www.tgpa.ca/index_photos/new_sample11_02.jpg On 10/24/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: ...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ I couldn't tell you since I don't see a picture of someone on a bicycle. What I get is a texture in red. Aargh! That's one of those web pages that serves up a different image every time you load it. *Very* bad usability design - I'll fail any student who does that in my web design course! Anyway, everyone is going to see a different image when they visit this page and depending on how many images they hav in rotation, it may be difficult or impossible to get to the one I originally saw. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
LOL ... that URL links a different picture every time I click it. G On Oct 24, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: ...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ g -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: [second try] K10D official prices in France
I shoud add that price for Belgian shoud be about 1050 euros (including VAT). 2006/10/24, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At about $1.25 to to the euro, that's not that amazing a price. Once you add in the taxes... Thibouille wrote: I didn't see it in the archive so reposted ;) BTW in Switzerland in should be out on the 27th october at about 650 euros !!! (not counting TVA that should add it on top of it if you wanna play legal which is what you should do ^^ ) 2006/10/24, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Got them both :-) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
On 10/24/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very Theriaultian, I think its the knarf syndrome. Perry Pellechia wrote: I managed to find it for you: http://www.tgpa.ca/index_photos/new_sample11_02.jpg I like it! g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The JCO survey
You said that I abused you. HOW? I didn't use the foul language this Week that has been going back and Forth and I gave you two very fair Options to resolve the deal. You Specifically posted here you would never Deal with me again. There is no Other reason to post something like That other than to tell others Not too also. I don't buy your abusive emails makeup excuse. You had No right to post that the way you Did and forcing me to defend my Business Reputation like this. Secondly, I know when and where To use what type of language. He's implying that I used the Same type of languge with him On the ebay emails when I didn't Because I don't know that I am coming off as abusive. I know full well what type Of situation I am at all times And that simply was not the case With that deals and emails at That time. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey Read my post again. I never said you ripped me off. I only said that your communication with me was abusive and rude. The point of my comment was to show you by example how you come across to people and how you treat them. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 10/23/2006 6:28:51 PM Subject: RE: The JCO survey And what do you call someone who Comes to a MUTUAL agreement on A business matter and then goes On to tell hundreds of people I ripped him off? That's incredible. He refused a full refund I offered and accepted A partial refund. Now he has the Freaking nerve to insinuate that I somehow ripped him off? That's Totally unfreaking believable. I take ebay customer matters very seriously And I don't think that saying something Like that after what actully happened is Even remotely correct thing to do. It's massive Slander. He was just taking a super cheap shot At me for reasons I do not know but That was just way too God Damn over the Line. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey Your a class act John. Dave At 08:30 AM 24/10/2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I've not used any such tones with you. You have done so with others as well, often calling people dumb or idiots, and worse, for expressing their opinions, especially those opinions run counter to yours. You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I have gotten fed up with you and replied in kind. Regardless of how people address you, you can choose to be civil, but you don't. In fact, one of the list members noted that he's left the list several times because of your posts. He wasn't even writing to you, just posting a general message. Your comment was Screw you, dude ... (See below) I think that your foul mouth and abusive language are so much a part of you that you aren't even fully aware of what you say or how you come across. When I bought the K50/1.4 from you on eBay, and told you the front element was lose, you replied with a challenging, abusive email. Of course, I'll never do business with you again. Shel [Original Message] From: J. C. O'Connell My replies are of the same tone as the posts Directed at me. I never start with the name Calling but I will
Re: The JCO survey
On 10/24/06, Robert and Leigh Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen sister Marnie GROUP HUG.Kumbaya time. Let's move on folks Love ya all, mean it. Well, with the greatest of respect, if the thread or the contents thereof bother you, don't look at it. I've been staying away from it unless I want some comic relief, and even then I can only take a few posts at a time. It'll fizzle out eventually (although admittedly this one has dragged on longer than usual). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: my Greece photos are online
On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Amita Guha wrote: It would probably help if I included a URL. :) http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/2040336/ Nice places, looks like you had a great trip. Makes me want to go there myself... ! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Trinidad Magic
On my Redwood trip, when I stopped at Trinidad about sunset, I first concentrated on taking shots of the sunlight on the mini lighthouse. I did this not realizing I was missing a speculator sunset on the beach which as off in another direction, about 1/4-1/2 mile away. So by the time I got to the beach the sun had just set. I showed one photo previously with surfers on the beach. This was taken later after sun down, and it is a bit soft, but it was starting to get dark. The colors continued to change for quite some time after sunset, for 1/2 hour, maybe longer. Anyway, this was taken during magic hour, hence the title. I took about six of these, not sure this is the best, but it is my favorite shot from that trip. The colors were unbelievable. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/magic.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Simple Macro Revised
Based on Wheatfield's comments on problem areas, I have done a little work on the image. Here is version 2: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3580a.htm Here is the original for comparison: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3580.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: The JCO survey
Fuck you too. You don't know what happened Between me and him and there was no aggressive Abusive hehavior on my part. The aggressive Abusive posts this week are only in rebuttal To agrassive abusive posts like yours. I suggest you stay out of things you don't Know what you are talking about. By him Saying I abused him and saying he would Never deal with me againg is definitely Implying that there is something wrong With my ebay dealings with him and that WAS NOT the case whatsoever. Its pure Fucking slanderous bullshit. You don't Go badmouthing deals/dealers after you AGREE With the resolution of the deals. Its as Simple as that. To say now that it was abusive talk only that was the problem is bullshit because I had to defend myself on what really happened. If I didn't then it would be easily inferred that I wasn't good to deal with and I am. WHY DID HE EVEN BRING UP AN OLD EBAY DEAL if I resolved it To his satisfaction? I suggest it was To hurt my reputation on the list and try To get people to boycott me. That's a really Cheap and totally unjustified shot. Hes A complete asshole for doing something like That because the damage is problaby already done. I suggest in turn that no one sell to him Because he may pull the same thing with you. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Forbes Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:26:44 +0100, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what do you call someone who Comes to a MUTUAL agreement on A business matter and then goes On to tell hundreds of people I ripped him off? That's incredible. He refused a full refund I offered and accepted A partial refund. Now he has the Freaking nerve to insinuate that I somehow ripped him off? That's Totally unfreaking believable. You're quite right. It isn't believable. And the reason for that is that it's not true. All Shel said was that you responded very aggressively. This we can all believe. You know no other way. To say that he told hundreds of people that [you] ripped him off is a lie. Therefore, you are a liar. An aggressive liar. A foul-mouthed, aggressive liar. An incoherent, whingeing, insensitive, stupid, irrational, foul-mouthed, aggressive liar. But don't worry, Kostas loves you. John I take ebay customer matters very seriously And I don't think that saying something Like that after what actully happened is Even remotely correct thing to do. It's massive Slander. He was just taking a super cheap shot At me for reasons I do not know but That was just way too God Damn over the Line. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey Your a class act John. Dave At 08:30 AM 24/10/2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Look I don't think it's right AT ALL for you to bring up Our personal business matters on the list. THAT is far More FOUL than any four letter word name calling. I have a spectacular Reputation at ebay and I don't want people like you Trashing me for no reason because we settled that minor Dispute didn't we? You are getting really [EMAIL PROTECTED] low To make comments like that about me on this list. I do not rip people off and I am not a crooked ebay dealer. Did we come to an equitable agreement on that Issue or NOT? Now I am really f%#$%#ing pissed. That's totally uncalled for. I suggest everyone Go to ebay and check my feedback. You are a freaking Low life to say something like that especially After we settled that minor problem to a mutual agreement At the time. In fact, that's it, FUCK YOU dude! My ebay record speaks for itself, you are one full of Shit asshole lowlife to say that kind of horseshit About my business practices when there is nothing To back it up. Arguing cameras is one thing but to slander Me with this horsehit is going WAY WAY to far. P.s. FUCK YOU AGAIN! I cant believe you did that. What A freaking scumbag. SINCERELY, JCO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I've not used any such tones with you. You have done so with others as well, often calling people dumb or idiots, and worse, for expressing their opinions, especially those opinions run counter to yours. You've replied to me with your disgusting diatribes when I have gotten fed up with you and replied in kind. Regardless of how people address you, you can choose to be civil, but you don't. In fact, one of the list members noted that he's left the list several times because of your posts. He wasn't even writing to
Re: PESO: Feather River Barn
Thanks, Marnie! I agree that the sky is unnaturally blue. Didn't use a polarizer, but would estimate elevation to have been 'prox 5,000' and above a good portion of haze. Still, desaturating the sky wouldn't hurt it a bit. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/23/2006 4:44:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Feather River Canyon reaches from a spot not too far from Oroville, CA to just below the Sierra town of Quincy, CA. A traditional fall drive has been to take hwy #70 its length. Not having gotten to it this fall, I dug up one from a few years back. Hopefully I'll soon get to check to see if this shot can still be taken. LX, A-28~80 f/3.5-4.5. (Don't recall the film). only about 0.8 Saturated. Don't know if it needed any.(?) Comments welcome! Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=190 = Nice, Jack. Like the colors. The sky is very, very blue, if it were mine, I might desaturate that area just a tad. But nice fall colors. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: What is it about Toronto...
I managed to find it for you: http://www.tgpa.ca/index_photos/new_sample11_02.jpg On 10/24/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: ...that makes people take blurry photographs of people on bicycles? http://www.tgpa.ca/ I couldn't tell you since I don't see a picture of someone on a bicycle. What I get is a texture in red. Aargh! That's one of those web pages that serves up a different image every time you load it. *Very* bad usability design - I'll fail any student who does that in my web design course! Anyway, everyone is going to see a different image when they visit this page and depending on how many images they hav in rotation, it may be difficult or impossible to get to the one I originally saw. :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: [second try] K10D official prices in France
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: At about $1.25 to to the euro, that's not that amazing a price. Once you add in the taxes... The comparison is with France (cheapest stated so far) for us Europeans (830 vs 650+taxes Euro). But I think customs come into play when buying from Switzerland? American prices are a different ball-game, as we have discussed in the past. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: lens quick change Q?
I use hoods almost always except when shooting macro subjects at very very close range with the 90mm tamron. Which in any case has a front element that is deeply inset into the lens barrel. Rgds Patrick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: [second try] K10D official prices in France
Sure but suppose you are in holliday in Switzerland and forget to to decalre it when going back? Not that you should do this of course ;) 2006/10/24, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At about $1.25 to to the euro, that's not that amazing a price. Once you add in the taxes... Thibouille wrote: I didn't see it in the archive so reposted ;) BTW in Switzerland in should be out on the 27th october at about 650 euros !!! (not counting TVA that should add it on top of it if you wanna play legal which is what you should do ^^ ) 2006/10/24, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Got them both :-) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Delay? What delay?
Today Pentax Italy said that they expect the first batch of K10D coming around mid-November. The last time I checked (10 days ago) thay said early November. So it appears there's some delay after all. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Trinidad Magic
Subtle, quiet, delicate and peaceful. Lovely!! Yes, it's a tiny bit soft, but it suits the scene. From a strictly compositional standpoint, while the diagonal surf line helps, I feel it's somewhat heavy on the right. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my Redwood trip, when I stopped at Trinidad about sunset, I first concentrated on taking shots of the sunlight on the mini lighthouse. I did this not realizing I was missing a speculator sunset on the beach which as off in another direction, about 1/4-1/2 mile away. So by the time I got to the beach the sun had just set. I showed one photo previously with surfers on the beach. This was taken later after sun down, and it is a bit soft, but it was starting to get dark. The colors continued to change for quite some time after sunset, for 1/2 hour, maybe longer. Anyway, this was taken during magic hour, hence the title. I took about six of these, not sure this is the best, but it is my favorite shot from that trip. The colors were unbelievable. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/magic.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
On 24/10/06, Robert and Leigh Woerner, discombobulated, unleashed: Can't wait to get my hands on a K10Dand just think what else is in the pipelineimagine what Pentax will market in two short years... An add-on aperture simulator? ;-) --- -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Your first camera
In a message dated 10/24/2006 4:58:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While it may (or may not) be that a larger percentage of (so-called) serious photographers are men, I think it's true that in it's early days, a photography (at least in its higher levels) included a larger percentage of women than other visual arts. Think Margaret Bourke-White, Imogen Cunningham, Dorothea Lange, Tina Mondetti, Julia Cameron, Leni Reifenstal (a great photographer despite what may have been her politics). I've always thought that was because photography was, at the time, a relatively new medium, and was struggling to be accepted as a true art. There was less resistance to women participating as there wasn't so much of an establishment as there was in other artforms. Not only that, but as a newer artform, it may have naturally attracted women who had an artistic bent, but were effectively shut out from more established visual arts. cheers, frank = Good point. There may be something to that, frank. New fields/mediums sometimes arrive with no gender attached. I.E. people haven't assigned a gender to them yet in their heads. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey
But its PURE FUCKING BULLSHIT. I didnt abuse him and I Treated him MORE than fairly. My ebay feedback backs me up on this. Both you and him are FULL OF SHIT. He took a super cheap shot. You Dont go running your mouth About vendors when they treat you Fairly AND I DID treat him fairly. It plain out slander and just a cheap Way for him to try to damage my Ebay business reputation and it was TOTALLY unjustified. Stay the hell Of the this because you are only Making a bad situation worse by Trying to imply it is or was Justible action for him to post That when it wasnt based on the Options I gave him at the time ( INCLUDING A FUUL REFUND ) and the friendly Resolution reached on the matter. (AT THAT TIME). jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: The JCO survey This said. Based on what I have seen here, I have no reason not to make business with you. Unless you end up with a defective product, anyway But I do think Shel has a very valid point in his third paragraph. It seems that you are not fully aware how your language and general list behaviour come across. Remember; this is a family list. Children, and others, might get scared. I can hardly imagine that's your purpose. JCO is an eBay vendor. Vendor reputations are based not only on the product they sell, but how they deal with customer service issues. If a vedor treats his custmers like crap ( I am presuming Shel is being truthful based on JCO's conduct on list), then he has every right (and perhaps a duty to warn his friends) to tell the world he was badly treated. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The JCO survey
In a message dated 10/24/2006 9:37:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, with the greatest of respect, if the thread or the contents thereof bother you, don't look at it. I've been staying away from it unless I want some comic relief, and even then I can only take a few posts at a time. It'll fizzle out eventually (although admittedly this one has dragged on longer than usual). cheers, frank That wasn't my point, frank. In a message dated 10/24/2006 9:29:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GROUP HUG.Kumbaya time. Good idea. Huggs. (Old CompuServe short-hand). Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USA tour 2004 now online
I concur. A couple of minor points (one on presentation, one on content): o Mavigation would be easier with a previous/next page link. o It's horse-shoe, not horse-shoe (falls at Niagara) But it's a great illustrated travelogue. On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 07:34:55AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'm glad I'm not the only one who's behind! I still have several hundred negatives from my 1996 trip to the UK and Europe to go through. ;-) Good travelogue, you caught a feeling in many of them that is compelling. Godfrey On Oct 24, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: Thanks for the compliment Dan! Another one coming up in a day or so ... Regards, JvW (Slowly getting rid of several years of backlog :-) On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:09:51 -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A very nice portfolio indeed! You were certainly able to capture the feeling of the places that you visited. From a trip I made in October 2004, from Chicago to Niagara falls, Michigan lower and upper peninsula, along the Mississippi to St Louis, over the plains to Denver Colorado and back to Chicago. http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Thanks for the comments and the insights on the plants. Yum! -- Bruce Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 7:01:48 AM, you wrote: C Like the colors and sharpness, but the composition is so-so. C You can eat those flowers in salad you know. They also attract C hummingbirds really well. C -- C Christian C http://photography.skofteland.net C Bruce Dayton wrote: Sorry - could be considered a little Dayton-esque Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 800, 1/180 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3405.htm Comments welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
