Re: PESO -- Griswold Airport, East/West Runway

[David Mann]

On Dec 6, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Bob W wrote:

> It seems a little odd to hear someone regret the passing of an airport
> for homes when here there is always someone protesting about new
> airports, either because they will destroy a wildlife haven, or
> because they have to flatten a thousand homes to make space for the
> runway.

Here we have the opposite problem.  Some developers want to create an  
artificial lake close to the flight path of our airport.  The airport  
are fighting that one pretty hard as they fear birdstrike.

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Re: Attn DA 12-24 owners - Query re filters

[Patrick Genovese]

>> It's hard to find a filter that is as flare resistant as the lens.

I agree with you 100% on that argument in fact I sometimes take the
filter off when shooting in situations where flare is likely to be a
problem (e.g. backlit situations). OTOH having some protection for the
front element allows me to leave the lens in the camera bag (shoulder
bag) without the lens cap and simply rely on the lens hood to provide
some physical separation.

Ok a $100 filter is not exactly disposable but its a much lower risk
than a lens.   I have some SMC filters and have used them in this
method for ages and have never damaged a filter.

Rgds

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Re: Anyone have a "parts" LX?

[Digital Image Studio]

On 07/12/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need the little disc that goes on top of the rewind lever. Don't
> know what happened to mine. Does anyone have a broken LX that they're
> using as a parts camera? Would love to find this piece.
> Paul

You should still be able to order it as a spare.

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Re: Another interview articles

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/12/06 Wed PM 07:58:59 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Another interview articles
> 
> Tom C wrote:
> 
> >I take it then you saying the resolution limit has been reached with 
> >digital?  
> 
> No. What I'm saying is that we've reached a point at which average 
> consumers are going to be able to see very clearly that more megapixels 
> don't necessarily mean a better camera (or better pictures). That fact 
> holds true for point-n-shoots and DSLR's.

Sadly, they will not see that until they have bought it.


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Re: Any purchase an extended warranty on their K10D

[mike wilson]

> From: "rodney almodovar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/12/06 Wed PM 10:06:15 GMT
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Any purchase an extended warranty on their K10D
> 
> Hello,
>When I purchased my *istD several years back, I bought the extended
> warranty through my local camera shop.  I never did have reason to use
> it though - Thankfully!
> 
> So, my question is, how many of you purchased an extended warranty for the 
> K10D?

In the UK, the sheer existence of an extended warranty (implying that the 
insurer is pretty sure that nothing will go wrong in the warranty period) 
pretty much ensures that it is not neccessary, due to the way our consumer 
protection law works.

One person I know bought two extended warranties, which guaranteed your fee 
back if there was no claim.  In one, the insurance company went bust.  In the 
second, the retailer that the warranty was bought through went bust and the 
insurance company refused to honour it.

I wouldn't touch one with a dead Norwegian Blue.


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Men with cameras: Georgia 10

[Roman]

http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060825142318


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Extended warranty

[Charles Wilson]

When I buy the K10D I will be taking out extended warranty.  I just have had 
to have my istD repaired under extended warranty and believe its great 
insurance.  (My delete button wouldn't work.


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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Jostein Øksne]

My guess is pretty close to Paul's. A 22 Mpix sensor has been
suggested before, so if that's still in production it will have my
bet. Pricewise my guess is between $5000 and $6000.

As for appeal... Throw in some weather sealing, and I believe at least
some non-pentax outdoor/landscape photograpers will have their heads
up. But I really don't know how "wide" or "narrow" that bunch is.

Jostein

On 12/7/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It will have a 24 megapixel sensor, it will cost $4000, and it will
> appeal to a wide range of pros and serious amateurs. That's my
> prediction.
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Jostein Øksne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/12/07 Thu AM 11:03:26 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)
> 
> My guess is pretty close to Paul's. A 22 Mpix sensor has been
> suggested before, so if that's still in production it will have my
> bet. Pricewise my guess is between $5000 and $6000.
> 
> As for appeal... Throw in some weather sealing, and I believe at least
> some non-pentax outdoor/landscape photograpers will have their heads
> up. But I really don't know how "wide" or "narrow" that bunch is.
> 
> Jostein

What about SR?

> 
> On 12/7/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It will have a 24 megapixel sensor, it will cost $4000, and it will
> > appeal to a wide range of pros and serious amateurs. That's my
> > prediction.
> > Paul
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Re: OT: My Next Dog?

[keith_w]

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Jack, my terrier mutt, who my daughter saved from a dumpster one  
> January:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3023179

I like Jack!
He looks like one happy pup!

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Re: My Next Dog?

[keith_w]

Markus Maurer wrote:
> Hi William
> why is the dog called "Burnese" in english when it is a "Berner Sennenhund"
> from "Berne" in Switzerland ?
> 
> Oh, all those lovely dogs, my cat "Leo Leu Lowenzahn" really hates dogs and
> even tries to attack them.
> 
> greetings
> Markus
> 

Let me guess...
Because when some folks pronounce Berne, and make a place of origin out 
of it, it might well sound like Bernese or perhaps Burnese.
I view it as a corruption of the original name. That sort of thing 
happens to languages a lot...

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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Jostein Øksne]

 mike wilson wrote:
> What about SR?

Yes, please? :-)

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New list member

[N Ambalavanan]

Hello! I have been "lurking" on this list on and off for the past few
years, but did not subscribe until now (I belong to too many
subscription lists already). I have found many of the email
discussions positively enlightening and the photographs from the list
members superb. Anyway, here I am - I have been a proud Pentax owner
for many years (Thanks to my Dad who used to have a Spotmatic, an MX,
and a P30) and my collection now includes an LX, MX, K1000, PZ-20,
MZ-S, *st D, and (for all of 6 days) a K10D. I have gone digital, but
can't bear to give up film or the film cameras. I am a fan of the
AF360Z. I am gradually trying to expand my collection of lenses. I
prefer nature and macros, and mostly use a 100/2.8 macro. For travel,
I usually use a Tamron 24-135 zoom, but I am thinking of getting some
good Pentax glass (perhaps a bit wider, and not so long?). Any
suggestions?
Glad to join the gang,
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[David Savage]

I'd prefer a 13-14+ MP 35mm "full frame" DSLR.

Dave

On 12/7/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It will have a 24 megapixel sensor, it will cost $4000, and it will
> appeal to a wide range of pros and serious amateurs. That's my
> prediction.
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Digital Image Studio]

On 07/12/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd prefer a 13-14+ MP 35mm "full frame" DSLR.

The standard reply generally is: 645 is the new full frame camera! ;-)

But hey yeah, I'm with you, and chuck in an aperture feedback sensor
too, $3k would have me handing over the cash. No way I'll hand over
$10K+ for a 645D.

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Re: Pentax KX

[Tom Ivar Helbekkmo]

"John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Indeed a common problem is the little mirror for the arperture 
>> reading in the viewfinder.
>
> I always wanted to know can that be fixed with a CLA?

It's a common problem, and easy to fix.  There's a tiny mirror sitting
on a flexible metal holder behind the aperture window, reflecting the
light into the prism.  This may either have fallen off, or just be out
of adjustment.  If it's fallen off, it's in there somewhere, and can
be glued back on.  In either case, it needs to be adjusted by bending
the "stalk" it sits on until you see the aperture ring in the
viewfinder.

In other words, it shouldn't add much to the cost of a CLA.

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Re: PESO: a color one

[Scott Loveless]

On 12/7/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A color one, for a change:
>
> http://color.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=149
>
> K10D, A50/1.4, shot full open at 1/4000s, in the sun. Kind of a grab
> shot, but so are all my pics :)
>
> Comments welcome.
>
Yes, as a matter of fact I do still hate you.  

I like this style of contrasty color photography.  Very nice.

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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[David Savage]

On 12/7/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 07/12/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd prefer a 13-14+ MP 35mm "full frame" DSLR.
>
> The standard reply generally is: 645 is the new full frame camera! ;-)

Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
(or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
work etc for their day to day shooting?

> But hey yeah, I'm with you, and chuck in an aperture feedback sensor
> too, $3k would have me handing over the cash. No way I'll hand over
> $10K+ for a 645D.

Ditto.

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Re: Extended warranty

[John Forbes]

Did you compare the cost of the extended warranty with the cost of the  
repair?

As a general rule, never insure against any risk you can afford to pay  
for.  Over your life you will spend two or three times as much on premiums  
as you would on repairs and replacements.  Who do you think is paying for  
all those big offices, large salaries and expensive cars, not to mention  
dividends to shareholders?

Warren Buffet, the world's most successful investor, is into insurance in  
a big way.  That says something.

I insure my house, my car, against professional liability, and for medical  
matters in North America.  That's quite enough.

John



On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:14:27 -, Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> When I buy the K10D I will be taking out extended warranty.  I just have  
> had
> to have my istD repaired under extended warranty and believe its great
> insurance.  (My delete button wouldn't work.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Charles Wilson
> Sydney Australia
>
>
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Re: New list member

[Scott Loveless]

On 12/7/06, N Ambalavanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello! I have been "lurking" on this list on and off for the past few
> years, but did not subscribe until now (I belong to too many
> subscription lists already). I have found many of the email
> discussions positively enlightening and the photographs from the list
> members superb. Anyway, here I am - I have been a proud Pentax owner
> for many years (Thanks to my Dad who used to have a Spotmatic, an MX,
> and a P30) and my collection now includes an LX, MX, K1000, PZ-20,
> MZ-S, *st D, and (for all of 6 days) a K10D. I have gone digital, but
> can't bear to give up film or the film cameras. I am a fan of the
> AF360Z. I am gradually trying to expand my collection of lenses. I
> prefer nature and macros, and mostly use a 100/2.8 macro. For travel,
> I usually use a Tamron 24-135 zoom, but I am thinking of getting some
> good Pentax glass (perhaps a bit wider, and not so long?). Any
> suggestions?
> Glad to join the gang,
> Ambal
> (N. Ambalavanan MD)
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=1867660
>

Welcome!  You have some really nice photos.  I'm particularly fond of
the yellow flower.  Thanks for sharing those with us.

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Re: OT: My Next Dog?

[Christian]

William Robb wrote:

> Did you hunt your GSP?

No.  Biggest mistake I made with him.  That dog was born to point and 
retrieve.  We pretended to hunt, take a walk in the fields, he'd point 
birds (bobwhite mostly), I'd flush them and we'd watch them fly away. 
He was s steady.  His dad was a dual field/show champ and his 
grandfather was the #1 GSP in the country.  I'm not a hunter, just 
really love the breed.  If - and it's a big "if" - I were to get another 
one, I'd definitely hunt.

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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Christian]

Jostein Øksne wrote:
> My guess is pretty close to Paul's. A 22 Mpix sensor has been
> suggested before, so if that's still in production it will have my
> bet. Pricewise my guess is between $5000 and $6000.

First iteration: 18MP, US$3000.  18-month upgrades to 22MP and 30MP.

> As for appeal... Throw in some weather sealing, and I believe at least
> some non-pentax outdoor/landscape photograpers will have their heads
> up. But I really don't know how "wide" or "narrow" that bunch is.

Put a 600mm 5.6 on it and it would be a great shore bird rig.

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Re: PEsO: Mom Does Lunch

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks for looking, Boris. Good point regarding the child chair. I 
intend to go back in and burn in the tabletop a bit.
Paul
On Dec 7, 2006, at 2:30 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi!
>
>> My mother eats her lunch in the kitchen. I shot her from the
>> adjoining room. 800 ISO, f4 @ 1/45th. My wife, Marlene, is in the
>> background. I like the light here. It's coming in the patio door and
>> just getting mom. Again, I rendered this on the laptop. Might be off
>> a bit. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5288310&size=lg
>> Paul
>
> Putting aside technicalities I find the contrast between that blue
> child's chair and your mother's posture very striking. To me this work
> tells the whole story.
>
> Boris
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Re: Another interview articles

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> Assuming that they are cashed up sufficiently to fulfill the demand
> that they have created though their aggressive pricing.

Rob, what aggressive pricing?

SRPs and actuals from http://www.parkcameras.com/

No Canon 40D
Canon 30D   1,100   742
Canon 400D650   450
Nikon D80 700   550
Pentax K10D   650   ???

What aggressive pricing? We are talking fifty quid which may not be 
there in the actual street price.

And have you ordered one? :-)

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Re: Anyone have a "parts" LX?

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Rob. I'll give it a try.
Paul
On Dec 7, 2006, at 3:46 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> On 07/12/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I need the little disc that goes on top of the rewind lever. Don't
>> know what happened to mine. Does anyone have a broken LX that they're
>> using as a parts camera? Would love to find this piece.
>> Paul
>
> You should still be able to order it as a spare.
>
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OT Has anyone used a GorillaPod?

[Digital Image Studio]

They look useful:

http://www.joby.com/index.html

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Re: New list member

[Paul Stenquist]

Welcome. Enjoyed your photo.net page. Some very good work there.
Paul Stenquist
On Dec 7, 2006, at 7:29 AM, N Ambalavanan wrote:

> Hello! I have been "lurking" on this list on and off for the past few
> years, but did not subscribe until now (I belong to too many
> subscription lists already). I have found many of the email
> discussions positively enlightening and the photographs from the list
> members superb. Anyway, here I am - I have been a proud Pentax owner
> for many years (Thanks to my Dad who used to have a Spotmatic, an MX,
> and a P30) and my collection now includes an LX, MX, K1000, PZ-20,
> MZ-S, *st D, and (for all of 6 days) a K10D. I have gone digital, but
> can't bear to give up film or the film cameras. I am a fan of the
> AF360Z. I am gradually trying to expand my collection of lenses. I
> prefer nature and macros, and mostly use a 100/2.8 macro. For travel,
> I usually use a Tamron 24-135 zoom, but I am thinking of getting some
> good Pentax glass (perhaps a bit wider, and not so long?). Any
> suggestions?
> Glad to join the gang,
> Ambal
> (N. Ambalavanan MD)
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Paul Stenquist]

I think the 645D smaller than the Canon full-frame DSLRs. I used only 
6x7 for quite a while. Took it everywhere.
Paul
On Dec 7, 2006, at 7:51 AM, David Savage wrote:

> On 12/7/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 07/12/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'd prefer a 13-14+ MP 35mm "full frame" DSLR.
>>
>> The standard reply generally is: 645 is the new full frame camera! ;-)
>
> Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
> (or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
> work etc for their day to day shooting?
>
>> But hey yeah, I'm with you, and chuck in an aperture feedback sensor
>> too, $3k would have me handing over the cash. No way I'll hand over
>> $10K+ for a 645D.
>
> Ditto.
>
> Dave
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Re: PESO -- Griswold Airport, East/West Runway

[Cory Papenfuss]

> Here we have the opposite problem.  Some developers want to create an
> artificial lake close to the flight path of our airport.  The airport
> are fighting that one pretty hard as they fear birdstrike.
>
Birdstrikes are bad news... one of my very few big concerns 
while taking off and landing.

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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Adam Maas]

It's bigger than a 5D, smaller than a 1Ds.

-Adam


Paul Stenquist wrote:
> I think the 645D smaller than the Canon full-frame DSLRs. I used only 
> 6x7 for quite a while. Took it everywhere.
> Paul
> On Dec 7, 2006, at 7:51 AM, David Savage wrote:
> 
>> On 12/7/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 07/12/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I'd prefer a 13-14+ MP 35mm "full frame" DSLR.
>>> The standard reply generally is: 645 is the new full frame camera! ;-)
>> Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
>> (or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
>> work etc for their day to day shooting?
>>
>>> But hey yeah, I'm with you, and chuck in an aperture feedback sensor
>>> too, $3k would have me handing over the cash. No way I'll hand over
>>> $10K+ for a 645D.
>> Ditto.
>>
>> Dave
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Jostein Øksne]

Just one catch. The existing 645 600mm is manual focus. :-(

Jostein


On 12/7/06, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jostein Øksne wrote:
> > My guess is pretty close to Paul's. A 22 Mpix sensor has been
> > suggested before, so if that's still in production it will have my
> > bet. Pricewise my guess is between $5000 and $6000.
>
> First iteration: 18MP, US$3000.  18-month upgrades to 22MP and 30MP.
>
> > As for appeal... Throw in some weather sealing, and I believe at least
> > some non-pentax outdoor/landscape photograpers will have their heads
> > up. But I really don't know how "wide" or "narrow" that bunch is.
>
> Put a 600mm 5.6 on it and it would be a great shore bird rig.
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Adam Maas]

David Savage wrote:
> On 12/7/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 07/12/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'd prefer a 13-14+ MP 35mm "full frame" DSLR.
>> The standard reply generally is: 645 is the new full frame camera! ;-)
> 
> Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
> (or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
> work etc for their day to day shooting?

Considering that a 1Ds is the size and weight of a 645 SLR (Not sure 
exactly about the Pentax 645, but the Mamiya ZD is smaller apart from 
the prism and about the same weight as a 1Ds), your argument doesn't 
hold a lot of water on that front. Also there are potential technical 
problems with a FF DSLR on K mount, the light path perpendicularity 
issue for corner performance is impacted by K mount's smallish throat 
size, 645 mount doesn't have that issue.

I carry my Mamiya M645 fairly often, but it's smaller and lighter than a 
P645 (No motordrive).

> 
>> But hey yeah, I'm with you, and chuck in an aperture feedback sensor
>> too, $3k would have me handing over the cash. No way I'll hand over
>> $10K+ for a 645D.
> 
> Ditto.
> 
> Dave
> 

$3K would have me dumping my Mamiya kit and getting a 645D.

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Re: Any purchase an extended warranty on their K10D

[Adam Maas]

I get them on used kit and stuff with potential expensive failures 
outside the manufacturers warranty period, unless the Manufacturer has a 
2 year or longer warranty (Pentax is 2 years in Canada).

The sole exception to that is Future Shop's CSP, which is worth it for 
the no-hassle policy. Normally you have to take stuff to the 
manufacturers warranty depot if problems happen outside of the return 
period, but with CSP you just take it back to Future Shop and they deal 
with it. (the exception is computer hardware as warranty-authorized 
service depots are common). This is also the only good reason to shop at 
Future Shop.

-Adam



Tom C wrote:
> Not me, but then I haven't purchased a K10D yet.  :-)  In general extended 
> warranties are scams.  I always ask the salesperson (if offered a warranty 
> on something) whether they expect the product to fail.
> 
> SP: Would you like to purchase the extended warranty plan, blah, blah, $150 
> blah, instant replacement, blah?
> 
> Me: Why, do you think it's going to break?
> 
> SP: No, but you never know.
> 
> Me: Well if it's going to break before it's outdated by a newer product and 
> outlived it's useful life, maybe I shouldn't buy it then.
> 
> SP: No, I don't think it's going to break, but it gives you peace of mind if 
> it does.
> 
> Me: No thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> It's just another kind of insurance, and quite frankly I'm tired of sinking 
> money down the insurance drain. Life, health, auto, home, yes, for things 
> that really matter.  95% of the time the company is making far more money on 
> the insurance, than they are on the product they are selling.
> 
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
>> From: "rodney almodovar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Any purchase an extended warranty on their K10D
>> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:06:15 -0600
>>
>> Hello,
>>When I purchased my *istD several years back, I bought the extended
>> warranty through my local camera shop.  I never did have reason to use
>> it though - Thankfully!
>>
>> So, my question is, how many of you purchased an extended warranty for the 
>> K10D?
>> Thanks!
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast

[Mark Roberts]

Bruce Dayton wrote:

>I'm interested in your thoughts on this one.
>
>Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 38mm, Handheld
>ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/13
>
>http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3811.htm

The criticism I have is something over which you had no control: The 
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Re: OT Has anyone used a GorillaPod?

[David Savage]

Looks like it's made from flexible coolant hose :-)

Dave

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> They look useful:
>
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[David Savage]

On 12/7/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Savage wrote:
> > Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
> > (or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
> > work etc for their day to day shooting?
>
> Considering that a 1Ds is the size and weight of a 645 SLR (Not sure
> exactly about the Pentax 645, but the Mamiya ZD is smaller apart from
> the prism and about the same weight as a 1Ds), your argument doesn't
> hold a lot of water on that front. Also there are potential technical
> problems with a FF DSLR on K mount, the light path perpendicularity
> issue for corner performance is impacted by K mount's smallish throat
> size, 645 mount doesn't have that issue.

I was thinking more along the lines of the 5D.

If Pentax build the 645D like Canon do their 1D cameras (cast frame
etc.) it'll be a big beast.

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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast

[Rick Womer]

You are =really= fortunate to be in striking distance
of such locations!  Since you are, I would visit it
again.  For me, the shot lacks a center of interest. 
If there were big crashing waves sending up spray, or
if the texture of the rocks was more apparent (I like
William Robb's suggestion of large format B&W), it
would work better.

Rick

--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, the question is, do you consider the shot worth
> any more effort,
> or just needs more visiting location and shooting
> again?
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 8:17:44 PM, you wrote:
> 
> PS> I like it. It's different. Not your usual
> coastal pic. However, I
> PS> think some of your blacks might be clipped. I'm
> looking at it on my
> PS> laptop, so I can't be certain. But I'm thinking
> you could gain some
> PS> shadow detail and still get some crushed blacks
> where you want them.
> PS> Paul
> PS> On Dec 6, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> 
> >> I'm interested in your thoughts on this one.
> >>
> >> Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 38mm, Handheld
> >> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/13
> >>
> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3811.htm
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Re: New list member

[Rick Womer]

Welcome, N! (what should we call you?).  Lovely
gallery.  This group will make it all too easy for you
to add to your lens collection!

Rick

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> too many
> subscription lists already). I have found many of
> the email
> discussions positively enlightening and the
> photographs from the list
> members superb. Anyway, here I am - I have been a
> proud Pentax owner
> for many years (Thanks to my Dad who used to have a
> Spotmatic, an MX,
> and a P30) and my collection now includes an LX, MX,
> K1000, PZ-20,
> MZ-S, *st D, and (for all of 6 days) a K10D. I have
> gone digital, but
> can't bear to give up film or the film cameras. I am
> a fan of the
> AF360Z. I am gradually trying to expand my
> collection of lenses. I
> prefer nature and macros, and mostly use a 100/2.8
> macro. For travel,
> I usually use a Tamron 24-135 zoom, but I am
> thinking of getting some
> good Pentax glass (perhaps a bit wider, and not so
> long?). Any
> suggestions?
> Glad to join the gang,
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Re: PESO: a color one

[Rick Womer]

Really nice quick-reflexes shot, and I like the colors
and composition.  I wish the DOF were a little
greater, though--only the cuff of the red jacket
appears to be in focus.

Rick

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> A color one, for a change:
> 
> http://color.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=149
> 
> K10D, A50/1.4, shot full open at 1/4000s, in the
> sun. Kind of a grab
> shot, but so are all my pics :)
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
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Re: OT Has anyone used a GorillaPod?

[Digital Image Studio]

On 08/12/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like it's made from flexible coolant hose :-)

Not quite, but my Plamps are ;-)

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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Rick Womer]

...and a 1 kg battery to provide enough power to move
that sensor around!

--- Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  mike wilson wrote:
> > What about SR?
> 
> Yes, please? :-)
> 
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Re: Extended warranty

[Paul Sorenson]

Check the terms of your VISA/Mastercard.  Often purchases made with 
these will extend the warranty to double the manufacturer's warranty up 
to an additional year.

-P

Charles Wilson wrote:
> When I buy the K10D I will be taking out extended warranty.  I just have had 
> to have my istD repaired under extended warranty and believe its great 
> insurance.  (My delete button wouldn't work.
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Charles Wilson
> Sydney Australia 
> 
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Re: Another interview articles

[Mark Roberts]

mike wilson wrote:

>> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> No. What I'm saying is that we've reached a point at which average 
>> consumers are going to be able to see very clearly that more 
megapixels 
>> don't necessarily mean a better camera (or better pictures). That fact 
>> holds true for point-n-shoots and DSLR's.
>
>Sadly, they will not see that until they have bought it.

Or one of their friends has. These 10-megapixel point-n-shoots are 
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Re: PESO -- Griswold Airport, East/West Runway

[Rick Womer]

Not to mention plane strikes.  My uncle gave up flying
and sold his Cessna 172 after witnessing a midair
collision.  He was waiting to take off from a small
field with only an advisory com, and the plane ahead
of him squarely hit crossing traffic after takeoff,
killing two pilots he knew well.

Rick

--- Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Birdstrikes are bad news... one of my very few big
> concerns 
> while taking off and landing.
> 
> -Cory
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Re: PEsO: Mom Does Lunch

[Rick Womer]

It's a beautiful story-telling shot, Paul.  You even
manage to make a cluttered kitchen look beautiful. 
Would you please come photograph mine? 

Rick

--- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> > My mother eats her lunch in the kitchen. I shot
> her from the  
> > adjoining room. 800 ISO, f4 @ 1/45th. My wife,
> Marlene, is in the  
> > background. I like the light here. It's coming in
> the patio door and  
> > just getting mom. Again, I rendered this on the
> laptop. Might be off  
> > a bit.
>
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> > Paul
> 
> Putting aside technicalities I find the contrast
> between that blue 
> child's chair and your mother's posture very
> striking. To me this work 
> tells the whole story.
> 
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Re: PESO: Sac. River Fall

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Boris. I'll interpret your suggestion as an indication that the
shot is a worthy effort.
I think the lifting fog makes the difference in this scene and there is
no way to re-shoot it.
I might mess with gaussian blur a bit and see what it does for me.

Jack
--- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> > K10D (w/16x45 f/4) and I drove along the Sacramento River levee
> just
> > after sunrise this morning, waiting for the fog to lift or thin.
> Came
> > upon this bend which was just becoming partially visible. I stood
> on
> > the levee (Thinsulate lined jacket on) for about 20 mins, during
> which
> > I did some serious shivering.
> > Had the K10D on a 3021 Manfrotto tripod w/pro ball head, 2
> sec/mirror
> > up pre-release with cable switch. Shutter and aperture unrecorded.
> > Gave it a click of auto sharpen, a nudge of contrast, and a small
> > amount of red and yellow juice.
> > 
> > Would appreciate all comments.
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=205
> 
> Jack, I think it would be worth trying to shoot this serene scene
> with 
> soft filter or soft lens of some kind. It could prove beneficial.
> 
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Re: New list member

[Jack Davis]

Welcome, Ambal,
You have put up a really nice collection and it's obvious you've done
some traveling. =)
Very incidentally, Aspen Lake is near Aspen, but its actual name is
Maroon Lake. The peaks above, Maroon Bells. Have been there five or six
times, but always in the fall.
If your pockets are deep enough (how deep we don't know at this point)
you may want to wait 'til around March '07 for the new DA USM's. I've
read we may expect a 16~50 f/2.8 ED AL (IF), 50~135 f/2.8 ED (IF) and a
60~250 f/4 ED (IF). 

Jack
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> subscription lists already). I have found many of the email
> discussions positively enlightening and the photographs from the list
> members superb. Anyway, here I am - I have been a proud Pentax owner
> for many years (Thanks to my Dad who used to have a Spotmatic, an MX,
> and a P30) and my collection now includes an LX, MX, K1000, PZ-20,
> MZ-S, *st D, and (for all of 6 days) a K10D. I have gone digital, but
> can't bear to give up film or the film cameras. I am a fan of the
> AF360Z. I am gradually trying to expand my collection of lenses. I
> prefer nature and macros, and mostly use a 100/2.8 macro. For travel,
> I usually use a Tamron 24-135 zoom, but I am thinking of getting some
> good Pentax glass (perhaps a bit wider, and not so long?). Any
> suggestions?
> Glad to join the gang,
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Re: PEsO: Mom Does Lunch

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Rick.
On Dec 7, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

> It's a beautiful story-telling shot, Paul.  You even
> manage to make a cluttered kitchen look beautiful.
> Would you please come photograph mine? 
>
> Rick
>
> --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>>> My mother eats her lunch in the kitchen. I shot
>> her from the
>>> adjoining room. 800 ISO, f4 @ 1/45th. My wife,
>> Marlene, is in the
>>> background. I like the light here. It's coming in
>> the patio door and
>>> just getting mom. Again, I rendered this on the
>> laptop. Might be off
>>> a bit.
>>
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>>> Paul
>>
>> Putting aside technicalities I find the contrast
>> between that blue
>> child's chair and your mother's posture very
>> striking. To me this work
>> tells the whole story.
>>
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Christian]

Jostein Øksne wrote:
> Just one catch. The existing 645 600mm is manual focus. :-(
> 
> Jostein

Not a catch for me.  I still rely a lot on manual focus.  Even for some 
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Jostein Øksne]

Why do you want to use a lead-acid cell?
:-)
Jostein

On 12/7/06, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...and a 1 kg battery to provide enough power to move
> that sensor around!
>
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> >  mike wilson wrote:
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Re: Another interview articles

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/12/07 Thu PM 01:57:26 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Another interview articles
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
> >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> 
> >> No. What I'm saying is that we've reached a point at which average 
> >> consumers are going to be able to see very clearly that more 
> megapixels 
> >> don't necessarily mean a better camera (or better pictures). That fact 
> >> holds true for point-n-shoots and DSLR's.
> >
> >Sadly, they will not see that until they have bought it.
> 
> Or one of their friends has. These 10-megapixel point-n-shoots are 
> going to be the Kodak Disc of the 21st century.

A friend bought one of the 5Mp Optios.  She quickly went back to using her 3Mp 
Panasonic because of shutter lag.


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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Jostein Øksne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/12/07 Thu PM 12:10:08 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)
> 
>  mike wilson wrote:
> > What about SR?
> 
> Yes, please? :-)
> 

Time to start buying lenses, I think


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Re: PESO -- Griswold Airport, East/West Runway

[Cory Papenfuss]

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Rick Womer wrote:

> Not to mention plane strikes.  My uncle gave up flying
> and sold his Cessna 172 after witnessing a midair
> collision.  He was waiting to take off from a small
> field with only an advisory com, and the plane ahead
> of him squarely hit crossing traffic after takeoff,
> killing two pilots he knew well.
>
> Rick
>
Tragic, but not as much of a problem as it might seem.  The "rules 
of the road" (i.e. traffic pattern entry/exit procedures, radio calls, 
position reporting) is a mandatory part of training.  The only real 
problem is when people get complacent, lazy, or out-of-practice.  If 
people are proficient and responsible, untowered fields are completely 
safe.  Chances very good that one or both of the accident planes were at 
fault in this regard.

 Flying a small plane is as safe as you make it, because the vast 
majority of the time YOU get to kill you... not the other guy as in 
automotive traffic.

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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Adam Maas]

David Savage wrote:
> On 12/7/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>David Savage wrote:
>>
>>>Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
>>>(or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
>>>work etc for their day to day shooting?
>>
>>Considering that a 1Ds is the size and weight of a 645 SLR (Not sure
>>exactly about the Pentax 645, but the Mamiya ZD is smaller apart from
>>the prism and about the same weight as a 1Ds), your argument doesn't
>>hold a lot of water on that front. Also there are potential technical
>>problems with a FF DSLR on K mount, the light path perpendicularity
>>issue for corner performance is impacted by K mount's smallish throat
>>size, 645 mount doesn't have that issue.
> 
> 
> I was thinking more along the lines of the 5D.
> 
> If Pentax build the 645D like Canon do their 1D cameras (cast frame
> etc.) it'll be a big beast.
> 
> Dave
> 

The 1Ds is a lot slower than the 1D. Also the 5D with a grip is about the same 
size. But the 645's are a lot closer in build to a 1Ds than a 5D (Which is 
fairly light in build, being essentially a FF Canon 30D). 

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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast

[Kenneth Waller]

Mark Roberts was responsible for this appearing on my LCD -
> The criticism I have is something over which you had no control: The
> light is too harsh to make this work really well.

So it begs the hypothetical question - would you have taken the image or 
just enjoyed the scene for what it was worth?
Something that I've come to grips with after many years of capturing images 
that I eventually discard for similar reasons. There are very few images 
I'll attempt with out first evaluating the quality of the light.


Kenneth Waller

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From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO - Rugged Coast


> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
>>I'm interested in your thoughts on this one.
>>
>>Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 38mm, Handheld
>>ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/13
>>
>>http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3811.htm
>
> The criticism I have is something over which you had no control: The
> light is too harsh to make this work really well.
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OT: Pearl Harbor, Dec 7, 1941, in photographs

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://www.nps.gov/archive/usar/photos1/indexa.htm

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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast

[Mark Roberts]

Kenneth Waller wrote:

>Mark Roberts was responsible for this appearing on my LCD -
>> The criticism I have is something over which you had no control: The
>> light is too harsh to make this work really well.
>
>So it begs the hypothetical question - would you have taken the image 
or 
>just enjoyed the scene for what it was worth?

Interesting question. If I were traveling, I'd probably have taken the 
picture anyway. Could still be useful for some purposes. 

If the location was some place nearby that I can visit any time I'd 
wait for better light.

>Something that I've come to grips with after many years of capturing 
images 
>that I eventually discard for similar reasons. There are very few 
images 
>I'll attempt with out first evaluating the quality of the light.

I've just been working on a project for a client and found myself being 
really thankful of my own personal stock library, which includes many 
shots I wasn't sure were good enough to archive at the time.


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Re: Frank and my B&W guy has a K10D question

[Adam Maas]

Similar, only focal length entry, not aperture (technically the D200 only needs 
the aperture info, the focal length just allows for multiple lens info to be 
stored).

-Adam


David J Brooks wrote:
> Ok, so its the same as the D200 with the older Nikon lenses, set the  
> focal lenght
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Dave
> 
> Quoting Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> 
>>David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>>>Had a nice chat with e fellow how does our B&W on the Danforth, and he
>>>is VERY exited about the K10D.
>>>He had 1 question which i could not answer
>>>
>>>Will the SR work with K, A M and M42 lenses, or just the AF and DA lenses
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>Equine Photography in York Region
>>>
>>
>>All lenses. But A and older lenses require you to enter the focal length
>>(With K mount lenses the selection screen comes up automatically, but
>>you need to menu-dive for M42 lenses as they won't cover the contacts
>>and thus indicate their existence to the body).
>>
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Re: PESO: a color one

[Gonz]

Woh.  Very saturated on my monitor.  But nice framing and pic.  I would 
like to see more dof though, at least enough to see some more detail on 
the old lady.

rg


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A color one, for a change:
> 
> http://color.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=149
> 
> K10D, A50/1.4, shot full open at 1/4000s, in the sun. Kind of a grab
> shot, but so are all my pics :)
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> j
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RE: PESO - Rugged Coast

[Tom C]

It looks like a pretty spot but maybe just not the best time of day/angle of 
light.  The top left where the sky is peaking through and what looks like a 
little flare, could be cropped out, IMO.Overall I find the composition 
pleasing.



Tom C.



>From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: PESO - Rugged Coast
>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:28:06 -0800
>
>I'm interested in your thoughts on this one.
>
>Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 38mm, Handheld
>ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/13
>
>http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3811.htm
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast

[Bruce Dayton]

For me, there is a quality to this light - some of the harshness
emphasizes the feeling there.  I have a bunch of shots the other
direction that don't look harsh, but have a totally different kind of
feel to them.

There is also the learning factor - applying techniques and seeing how
they affect the image, etc.  Shooting backlit and dealing with flare
is an example.  Some very cool shots can be obtained, but the lighting
is very tricky.

I'll post one or two of the others up for all to see.  They may be
more acceptable to many.  I needed to hear the reaction to this one as
it helps me learn more.  I really appreciate your comments and others
as well.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006, 8:19:33 AM, you wrote:

KW> Mark Roberts was responsible for this appearing on my LCD -
>> The criticism I have is something over which you had no control: The
>> light is too harsh to make this work really well.

KW> So it begs the hypothetical question - would you have taken the image or
KW> just enjoyed the scene for what it was worth?
KW> Something that I've come to grips with after many years of capturing images
KW> that I eventually discard for similar reasons. There are very few images
KW> I'll attempt with out first evaluating the quality of the light.


KW> Kenneth Waller

KW> - Original Message - 
KW> From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
KW> Subject: Re: PESO - Rugged Coast


>> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>>
>>>I'm interested in your thoughts on this one.
>>>
>>>Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 38mm, Handheld
>>>ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/13
>>>
>>>http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3811.htm
>>
>> The criticism I have is something over which you had no control: The
>> light is too harsh to make this work really well.
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Re: OT: Photoshop elements 5.0 and 3.0 - prices and solutions

[ann sanfedele]

answering my own mail :)

I love my local Staples guys -
I can get 5.0 by itself for $89.00 and the rebate
without having to do it on line
(did I mention I hate to buy things on line?)

phew  
happy birthyday to me
ann

ann sanfedele wrote:

>ack
>I didn't realize what PREMIER meant - I just thought it was kinda like 
>3.1 or something...
>Didn't even look at the box.
>
>I realized it when I got home and looked at the quick ref guide.
>
>Mind you,  I had mentioned to the sales clerk what i was doing. sheesh
>
>Too eager.  and paying for it
>
>I hate to return things it is such a pain
>
>I really would like plain 3.0 - it has to be out there somewhere... 
>cheaper than 5.0
>
>sigh
>ann
>
>
>ann sanfedele wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Yeah that was it
>>however - it turns out that the sales clerk  was mistaken on the price. -
>>The $89 (with a rebate bringing it to $59) was only for 3.0  
>>which is really all I wanted anyway.
>>
>>the 5.0 and Premier 3.0 elements was $149 reduced to $119 with rebate.
>>
>>5.0 seemed to be too much for me anyway... I'm not doing animation or 
>>making videos, etc.
>>
>>of course, if all I had to pay was $59 I would have gone for it.
>>
>>
>>ann
>>
>>
>>
>>Eric Featherstone wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>On 06/12/06, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Well what I can pick up at Staples  is a package with both 3.0 and 5.0 in it
  

 



>>>Ann, are you sure you don't mean a package with _Premiere_ 3.0 and Elements 
>>>5.0?
>>>http://www.adobe.com/products/psprelements/
>>>
>>>Just wondering?
>>>
>>>Eric.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
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Re: Teensy Brag

[wendy beard]

That's Tyra - aka
Ch Blackcomb's Dreaming of Ewe AGN (SGDC MJDC OAJ)
She's a Belgian Tervuren and came from a kennel out in BC, but she
lives with me. She's a gem. Brains as well as beauty.
I also own her half-sister, Indy. She arrived at our house exactly 1
year ago today!
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/53293426

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> Subject: Re: Teensy Brag
>
> >
> > That's a lovely bunch of dogs! Great portraits!
> >
> > Which one is a Turv?
>
> Bloody hell, I didn't notice that she is using frames.
> Sorry.
> http://www.muddypawz.net/dog_port/medium/0001.jpg
> That would be one of Wendy Beard's breedings, I suspect.
>
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Re: OT: I love the R1800!

[ann sanfedele]

I just bought some printable cd's
Would you like me to send you some?

ann

graywolf wrote:

>Yes and the R220 is already a year old. I kind of like my R200. I've 
>just started using it to print CD's, so the local stores quit carrying 
>printable CD's. That seems to be the story of my life. Too little, too 
>late...
>
>-graywolf
>
>
>
>ann sanfedele wrote:
>  
>
>>Adam - do you mean r220?
>>Thats what I have and I love it -
>>although I would like to be able to make larger prints - I scarcely 
>>print anything  for myself right now due to
>>tight budgets... I just print if someone orders a print from me having 
>>seen it on the web.
>>
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Cotty]

On 7/12/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
>(or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
>work etc for their day to day shooting?

I'm always the odd one out. 1D+EF24-70 2.8 + spare battery. I'll weigh it.



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Re: OT Has anyone used a GorillaPod?

[Gonz]

I looks like it would have alot of vibration.

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> 
> http://www.joby.com/index.html
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Re: New list member

[ann sanfedele]

I missed the first post
I see, Ambal that you are also on photo net...
your shots are very nice and I chuckled when I saw one particular flower...
a variet we obviously both admire :)

Your second butterfly shot is particularly lovely  - that's a variety 
called a swallow tail -
which one I'm forgetting  but there are those on line who will get it 
wothout too
much trouble.  Names are getting away from me these days...

Here is a link to my flower folder on photo.net.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=447180

welcom out of lurking :)
ann


Jack Davis wrote:

>Welcome, Ambal,
>You have put up a really nice collection and it's obvious you've done
>some traveling. =)
>Very incidentally, Aspen Lake is near Aspen, but its actual name is
>Maroon Lake. The peaks above, Maroon Bells. Have been there five or six
>times, but always in the fall.
>If your pockets are deep enough (how deep we don't know at this point)
>you may want to wait 'til around March '07 for the new DA USM's. I've
>read we may expect a 16~50 f/2.8 ED AL (IF), 50~135 f/2.8 ED (IF) and a
>60~250 f/4 ED (IF). 
>
>Jack
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>>Hello! I have been "lurking" on this list on and off for the past few
>>years, but did not subscribe until now (I belong to too many
>>subscription lists already). I have found many of the email
>>discussions positively enlightening and the photographs from the list
>>members superb. Anyway, here I am - I have been a proud Pentax owner
>>for many years (Thanks to my Dad who used to have a Spotmatic, an MX,
>>and a P30) and my collection now includes an LX, MX, K1000, PZ-20,
>>MZ-S, *st D, and (for all of 6 days) a K10D. I have gone digital, but
>>can't bear to give up film or the film cameras. I am a fan of the
>>AF360Z. I am gradually trying to expand my collection of lenses. I
>>prefer nature and macros, and mostly use a 100/2.8 macro. For travel,
>>I usually use a Tamron 24-135 zoom, but I am thinking of getting some
>>good Pentax glass (perhaps a bit wider, and not so long?). Any
>>suggestions?
>>Glad to join the gang,
>>Ambal
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Re: Pearl Harbor, Dec 7, 1941, in photographs

[Kenneth Waller]

Dan, thanks for posting - its helps us remember.

I noted in the paper today an article stating that due to extremely heavy 
(more than ever anticipated) usage, the memorial is due for a 
rehabilitation. Seems it's slowly sinking.

Kenneth Waller

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> http://www.nps.gov/archive/usar/photos1/indexa.htm
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*istD kits down to $499 New

[J. C. O'Connell]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759

Seems like they are trying to unload these
older leftover models now.

How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Autofocus
Zoom Lens? 
Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because 28 isnt very wide
on APS now is it?

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Re: Frank and my B&W guy has a K10D question

[David J Brooks]

Thanks all

Dave

Quoting "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Yes.  (ambiguous answers a specialty).
>
> David J Brooks wrote:
>> Had a nice chat with e fellow how does our B&W on the Danforth, and he
>> is VERY exited about the K10D.
>> He had 1 question which i could not answer
>>
>> Will the SR work with K, A M and M42 lenses, or just the AF and DA lenses
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Equine Photography in York Region
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[Adam Maas]

Cotty wrote:
> On 7/12/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> 
>>Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
>>(or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
>>work etc for their day to day shooting?
> 
> 
> I'm always the odd one out. 1D+EF24-70 2.8 + spare battery. I'll weigh it.
> 
> 
> 
> 5 grams over 3kg.
> 

I've been known to carry my F3HP+MD-4 all day with the Tokina 28-70 f2.6-2.8, 
which ain't much lighter (it's a lot heavier than my M645).

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RE: OT: Norwegian novelist

[Tim Øsleby]

-Original Message-
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I wonder though if I program multi-thread/multi-process applications and 
thus think several thoughts at once - does it make me a philosopher?
-

As a programmer you should know that this logic is invalid ;-)
A -> B does not mean that B -> A.

This excludes you as philosopher. Sorry mate. 


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PESO - Rugged Coast 3

[Bruce Dayton]

Here is one more taken away from the sun at about the same time as
Rugged Coast.  Still doesn't have the same kind of feel.

Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 31mm, Handheld
ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11

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Re: Another interview articles

[Michael Chan]

On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 10:12 +1100, Digital Image Studio wrote:
> On 07/12/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Actually, it seems to be best "price-to-features" ratio. One of my
> > private clients whom I tutor recently bought her first digital camera -
> > without consulting me. She ended up with a 4 megapixel Canon. She could
> > have afforded one with More Megapixels [TM], but she (or the salesman
> > who sold her the camera) gave more weight to features and the ability
> > to fit more shots on any given memory card. I really have seen plenty
> > of people buying cameras this way and I've noticed even Best Buy
> > salesdroids telling people that they shouldn't necessarily buy because
> > of pixel count. The cynic in me suspects this sales tactic is probably
> > a ploy to appear more expert than they really are, but it's certainly
> > happening. The image quality of many 10-megapixel p-n-s cameras is so
> > poor that they just can't hide the truth much longer.
> 
> Yes I suspect 10MP in P&S will be the break point. And I have heard a
> sales person argue that a high MP P^S wasn't necessary, the gist of
> the argument was that even a large print can't hold that many colours
> :-)

The optimist in me hopes that your friend found a sales person who
actually genuinely cared that she got the product best for her purpose.
The cynic in me thinks that maybe that camera had an rewards program
attached to the sale for the salesperson.

Back when I was a drone in the camera retail industry, manufacturer
spiffs were commonplace and would sway some less scrupulous sales
person's recommendation to a customer as to what camera would be the
best for them.  Are spiffs still common in camera retail?

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PESO - Rugged Coast 2

[Bruce Dayton]

This one was shot away from the sun the same time frame as Rugged
Coast - there is an entirely different feeling to it.

Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11

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Re: My Next Dog?

[Michael Chan]

On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 23:39 -0600, William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael Chan" 
> Subject: Re: My Next Dog?
> 
> I humbly introduce my friend, The Griffin:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To watch my friend, who has lived with me for six years, interact  
> with my newborn son is a thing of wonder.  How does he know how  
> important my son is to us?  He just knows.  I wish you and your  
> potential new friend great joy, should you choose to take up the  
> responsibility of caring for each other.
> 
> 
> That is a gorgeous Burnese.
> You can teach them to pull a cart, you know.
> 
> William Robb

I thought about carting him when he was younger, but he had an issue with a 
foreleg at one point that prevented me from doing so.  He does carry a pack 
when we are on extended hikes.

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Re: *istD kits down to $499 New

[Adam Maas]

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759
> 
> Seems like they are trying to unload these
> older leftover models now.
> 
> How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Autofocus
> Zoom Lens? 
> Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because 28 isnt very wide
> on APS now is it?
> 
> jco
> 

That's the base model film kit lens. As is indicated by the FA J designation. 
There's only 3 FA J lenses, the 28-80 and 75-300 film kit lenses and the 18-35 
ultra-wide which was also used as the original kit for the *istD. These are the 
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast

[Doug Brewer]

Kenneth Waller wrote:

> So it begs the hypothetical question - would you have taken the image or 
> just enjoyed the scene for what it was worth?
> Something that I've come to grips with after many years of capturing images 
> that I eventually discard for similar reasons. There are very few images 
> I'll attempt with out first evaluating the quality of the light.
> 
> 
> Kenneth Waller

Here we go. Something to chew on.

Several years ago, I went on a shoot with Don Nelson, who worked for 
Pentax, and some newspaper guy from North Carolina. We had decided to 
meet in a little town in Tennessee near the NC border, to hike in and 
photograph Mouse Creek Falls.

We arose early, way before dawn, grabbed up all our gear and drove to 
the trailhead. It was somewhere in the mid-teens, Fahrenheit-wise, and 
the trail was up a pretty steep angle. The falls were three miles into 
the woods.

It was rocky and cold there in the NC mountains, but we made it all the 
way in, only to realize that the light was absolutely wrong; we should 
have waited until afternoon. We set up and shot anyway, -we'd come in, 
and bygawd we were gonna take pictures- but I've never really liked the 
results I got, even using a P67.

Now, like everyone else here, I shoot quite a bit. The overwhelming 
majority of the photos I get come under the category of record-keeping; 
I'm in a place, so I get shots of that place. The quality of the light 
is not as important as the proof I was there, I think.

But if you want to see me excited, or as excited as I ever get, give me 
some good light, and I'm all over it. I start looking for a subject that 
fits the light, and the whole magic of photography thing strikes me anew.

You have to be wary of becoming too dependent on golden light. When I 
mention "good" light, it may not be that perfect warmth of the 
early/late hour. What I mean is light that is interesting, whether it's 
dusky or rainy or foggy or something different entirely. It's one of 
those things that I know when I see it. There are subjects which will do 
justice to that particular quality of light, if only we can find them.

Obviously, the best times are when I'm somewhere special, whether it's 
my backyard or Paris, or wherever, =and= the light's good.

That's when it's fun.

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PESO - Rugged Coast - last one

[Bruce Dayton]

Last one, I promise.  This is shot back into the harsh light, but
gives it a rough quality that I like.

Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/8.0

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Re: My Next Dog?

[Michael Chan]

On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 00:42 -0600, William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Markus Maurer"
> Subject: RE: My Next Dog?
> 
> 
> > Hi William
> > why is the dog called "Burnese" in english when it is a "Berner 
> > Sennenhund"
> > from "Berne" in Switzerland ?
> >
> 
> The Canadian Kennel Club calls them
> Bernese Mountain Dog
> I know a couple of people who have them, and they often shorten the name 
> to "Berner"
> 
> William Robb 

William's right.  It's Bernese Mountain Dog, and it's frequently
shortened to "Berner".  Common mispronunciations include "Burmese"
Mountain Dogs.  On one occasion I ran with that gaffe and said they got
their names from the fighting "Burmese" monks who trained them to guard
Buddhist temples, and that they are the only breed known that could
actually be trained to fight in Bando Tiger form.

Berner Sennenhund is the original name.  They are closely related to the
Greater Swiss, as well as somewhat related to the St. Bernard, Great
Pyrenees, and Newfoundland, all of whom trace their roots to the
Molosser dogs of the Romans.  The breed was developed in the canton of
Berne, Switzerland and is named after the canton as well as the "senner"
or cattleman he worked for, and "hund" (dog).  The breed were originally
working dogs, used principally as carters, herders/drovers, and watch
dogs.

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Got a nice parcel today ...

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi all,

Guess I am joining the ever growing K10D club now :-)

Got a big box set from Germany today, with the K10D, 
grip, AF540FGZ flash and a spare battery ...

Unfortunately I will not be able to do much with it for several 
weeks since I broke my leg two weeks ago, and have a long 
titanium pin in there from just belo the hip almost to my knee :-(

Will take another 5 or 6 weeks before I can 
walk without cruches again ...

Anyway, first K10D impressions are positive, love the SR.
Made a test shot with the A* 200mm at 1/30 which turned
out pretty sharp!

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Re: Got a nice parcel today ...

[Bob Sullivan]

Jan,
Bad to hear that.
You weren't on a motorcycle were you?
Speed recovery,  Bob S.

On 12/7/06, Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Guess I am joining the ever growing K10D club now :-)
>
> Got a big box set from Germany today, with the K10D,
> grip, AF540FGZ flash and a spare battery ...
>
> Unfortunately I will not be able to do much with it for several
> weeks since I broke my leg two weeks ago, and have a long
> titanium pin in there from just belo the hip almost to my knee :-(
>
> Will take another 5 or 6 weeks before I can
> walk without cruches again ...
>
> Anyway, first K10D impressions are positive, love the SR.
> Made a test shot with the A* 200mm at 1/30 which turned
> out pretty sharp!
>
> Regards, JvW
>
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast 2

[Christian]

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> This one was shot away from the sun the same time frame as Rugged
> Coast - there is an entirely different feeling to it.
> 
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3752.htm
> 

I like it!  Nice and bright and I like the framing of the bridge.

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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast 2

[Rick Womer]

This one, for me, has too many subjects.  The surf,
rocks, bridge, ship, sailboat, and even the tree on
the hill seem to compete for my (limited) attention.

Rick

--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This one was shot away from the sun the same time
> frame as Rugged
> Coast - there is an entirely different feeling to
> it.
> 
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3752.htm
> 
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast 3

[Rick Womer]

I like this one, too.  The colors of the rocks and
water are nice, and there is a peaceful mood that
matches the lighting.

Rick

--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here is one more taken away from the sun at about
> the same time as
> Rugged Coast.  Still doesn't have the same kind of
> feel.
> 
> Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 31mm, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3785.htm
> 
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Happy Birthday, Ann!

[graywolf]

Happy Birthday, Ann!

-graywolf (who can take a hint )


ann sanfedele wrote:
> answering my own mail :)
> 
> I love my local Staples guys -
> I can get 5.0 by itself for $89.00 and the rebate
> without having to do it on line
> (did I mention I hate to buy things on line?)
> 
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> happy birthyday to me
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Re: Got a nice parcel today ...

[Rick Womer]

Jan,

Ouch!

You should rent a copy of the movie "Rear Window" and
take photographic inspiration!

Rick

--- Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Guess I am joining the ever growing K10D club now
> :-)
> 
> Got a big box set from Germany today, with the K10D,
> 
> grip, AF540FGZ flash and a spare battery ...
> 
> Unfortunately I will not be able to do much with it
> for several 
> weeks since I broke my leg two weeks ago, and have a
> long 
> titanium pin in there from just belo the hip almost
> to my knee :-(
> 
> Will take another 5 or 6 weeks before I can 
> walk without cruches again ...
> 
> Anyway, first K10D impressions are positive, love
> the SR.
> Made a test shot with the A* 200mm at 1/30 which
> turned
> out pretty sharp!
> 
> Regards, JvW
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast 2

[Jack Davis]

Between #2 and 3, I prefer this one. The little tree on top of the left
hill made me grin. 
I'd mess with the light some (in the "enhance" menu) using the
"light/shadow" tool.
The bright surf froth has dominated the meter and dulled the balance of
the scene..on my monitor.
Nice composition!

Jack
--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This one was shot away from the sun the same time frame as Rugged
> Coast - there is an entirely different feeling to it.
> 
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3752.htm
> 
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast - last one

[Rick Womer]

The spray behind the rock makes this shot.  I can
almost hear the surf!  The violence of the surf and
spray and the harshness of the light complement each
other.

Very nice!

Rick

--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Last one, I promise.  This is shot back into the
> harsh light, but
> gives it a rough quality that I like.
> 
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/8.0
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3760.htm
> 
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Re: Pentax KX

[Lucas Rijnders]

On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 05:13:06 +0100, P. J. Alling  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I believe that your MX is properly adjusted.

When I got it it had the mirror bumper glued on the mirror and light  
baffling on the back door. I'm glad to hear there was something done  
properly on the camera :o)

Which reminds me I have to try to fix the film door lock mechanism: it's  
stuck, and the MX is too nice not to use :o)

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> Lucas Rijnders wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:29:41 +0100, John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
 You even have mirror pre-fire  which is not a feature of the MX (yes I
 know you can cheat but officially it is not a feature).

>>> What is this cheat?  I'd not heard you can do that with an MX
>>>
>>
>> Apparently, some MX-en can be coaxed into raising their mirror by a  
>> light
>> tap on the shutter button.
>>
>> For some reason, I can not do it with my MX, but I can't say I tried  
>> very
>> hard.
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast - last one

[Jack Davis]

Like this, as well. You've cropped it to concentrate the eye by
featuring the scene's action. Very good lighting!
Well seen and frozen.

Jack
--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Last one, I promise.  This is shot back into the harsh light, but
> gives it a rough quality that I like.
> 
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/8.0
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3760.htm
> 
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Re: Happy Birthday, Ann!

[Jack Davis]

If you light candles, be sure you're not near any fire sprinkler heads.
(BG)
Seriously, have a happy and memorable one.

Jack
--- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> thanks, Tom
> sunday it is
> ann
> 
> graywolf wrote:
> 
> >Happy Birthday, Ann!
> >
> >-graywolf (who can take a hint )
> >
> >
> >ann sanfedele wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>answering my own mail :)
> >>
> >>I love my local Staples guys -
> >>I can get 5.0 by itself for $89.00 and the rebate
> >>without having to do it on line
> >>(did I mention I hate to buy things on line?)
> >>
> >>phew  
> >>happy birthyday to me
> >>ann
> >>
> >>
> >
> >  
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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[P. J. Alling]

Who wouldn't, (uh oh, now we're in for it).


David Savage wrote:
> I'd prefer a 13-14+ MP 35mm "full frame" DSLR.
>
> Dave
>
> On 12/7/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> It will have a 24 megapixel sensor, it will cost $4000, and it will
>> appeal to a wide range of pros and serious amateurs. That's my
>> prediction.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Ann!

[ann sanfedele]

thanks, Tom
sunday it is
ann

graywolf wrote:

>Happy Birthday, Ann!
>
>-graywolf (who can take a hint )
>
>
>ann sanfedele wrote:
>  
>
>>answering my own mail :)
>>
>>I love my local Staples guys -
>>I can get 5.0 by itself for $89.00 and the rebate
>>without having to do it on line
>>(did I mention I hate to buy things on line?)
>>
>>phew  
>>happy birthyday to me
>>ann
>>
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Re: PESO - Rugged Coast

[Kenneth Waller]

> "Did I answer the question"?
>Doug Brewer

I'd say.

Thanks
Kenneth Waller



- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO - Rugged Coast


> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>> So it begs the hypothetical question - would you have taken the image or
>> just enjoyed the scene for what it was worth?
>> Something that I've come to grips with after many years of capturing 
>> images
>> that I eventually discard for similar reasons. There are very few images
>> I'll attempt with out first evaluating the quality of the light.
>>
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>
> Here we go. Something to chew on.
>
> Several years ago, I went on a shoot with Don Nelson, who worked for
> Pentax, and some newspaper guy from North Carolina. We had decided to
> meet in a little town in Tennessee near the NC border, to hike in and
> photograph Mouse Creek Falls.
>
> We arose early, way before dawn, grabbed up all our gear and drove to
> the trailhead. It was somewhere in the mid-teens, Fahrenheit-wise, and
> the trail was up a pretty steep angle. The falls were three miles into
> the woods.
>
> It was rocky and cold there in the NC mountains, but we made it all the
> way in, only to realize that the light was absolutely wrong; we should
> have waited until afternoon. We set up and shot anyway, -we'd come in,
> and bygawd we were gonna take pictures- but I've never really liked the
> results I got, even using a P67.
>
> Now, like everyone else here, I shoot quite a bit. The overwhelming
> majority of the photos I get come under the category of record-keeping;
> I'm in a place, so I get shots of that place. The quality of the light
> is not as important as the proof I was there, I think.
>
> But if you want to see me excited, or as excited as I ever get, give me
> some good light, and I'm all over it. I start looking for a subject that
> fits the light, and the whole magic of photography thing strikes me anew.
>
> You have to be wary of becoming too dependent on golden light. When I
> mention "good" light, it may not be that perfect warmth of the
> early/late hour. What I mean is light that is interesting, whether it's
> dusky or rainy or foggy or something different entirely. It's one of
> those things that I know when I see it. There are subjects which will do
> justice to that particular quality of light, if only we can find them.
>
> Obviously, the best times are when I'm somewhere special, whether it's
> my backyard or Paris, or wherever, =and= the light's good.
>
> That's when it's fun.
>
> Did I answer the question?
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Re: *istD kits down to $499 New

[P. J. Alling]

Nope, not wide at all, (like 43mm on a FF film camera), and the FAJ is 
FF.  They're unloading a kit they put together fairly cheaply at a 
relatively high price.

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759
>
> Seems like they are trying to unload these
> older leftover models now.
>
> How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Autofocus
> Zoom Lens? 
> Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because 28 isnt very wide
> on APS now is it?
>
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>
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Re: Got a nice parcel today ...

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi Bob,

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:01:05 -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote:

>Bad to hear that.
>You weren't on a motorcycle were you?

No, it was a very unlucky fall at the river Rhine shore.
I fell onto a block of concrete with my left thigh (femur),
double fracture, just below the hip joint ...

Regards, JvW

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Re: Pentax 645D Sensor size(?)

[mike wilson]

Cotty wrote:

> On 7/12/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> 
>>Well I don't prescribe to that BS argument. How many here, in the past
>>(or are currently) lugged around a Pentax 645 on their daily walk, to
>>work etc for their day to day shooting?
> 
> 
> I'm always the odd one out. 1D+EF24-70 2.8 + spare battery. I'll weigh it.
> 
> 
> 
> 5 grams over 3kg.
> 
By my geometry, that amounts to a 3minutes 7seconds list to starboard.

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RE: *istD kits down to $499 New

[J. C. O'Connell]

High price? Wasnt the istD originally
over $1000 for just the body? This is
about $450 for a new *istD body and
about $50 for all the rest including the
FAJ lens by my estimate.How do you
know they got them (the bodies) cheap?
jco

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Nope, not wide at all, (like 43mm on a FF film camera), and the FAJ is 
FF.  They're unloading a kit they put together fairly cheaply at a 
relatively high price.

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759
>
> Seems like they are trying to unload these
> older leftover models now.
>
> How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Autofocus 
> Zoom Lens? Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because 28 isnt very 
> wide on APS now is it?
>
> jco
>
>
>   


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K10D and A*135mm 1:1.8 at 1/20s

[DagT]

I´m not a very eager pixel peeper but I think this is worth showing:
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=277182

Handheld at 1/20s, ISO1600 and underexposed one step.  Processed RAW  
to jpg in the camera with standard settings, no sharpening or noise  
reduction afterwards.  Stored with save for web in PS CS2 with  
quality 92 to get below 300K.

Yes, you can see some lines in the noise at the right side of the  
picture, but not much.  A 1:1 version may be found by clicking at the  
second small thumb below the main one.

DagT




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