Samsung GX-10 firmware v.1.11 released

[Roman]

Samsung decided to follow the trend in the digital camera world and made 
their firmware upgrade available for manual download and installation by 
the end user. As expected, new features are similar to Pentax K10D 
firmware updates 1.10 and 1.11:

* Wireless mode for built-in flash
* AF button returns previously selected AF point to center
* Changing ISO sensitivity by front or rear dial
* Green button in Tv and Av modes
* Ability to choose which dial changes Tv and Av in Program mode
* Green button returns built-in flash compensation to its default value
* Memory card volume is displayed in “Format” dialog

Follow the instructions on the Samsung Camera website to download and 
install firmware update 
. 
Thanks to PentaxLife forum user 1r2R1 
 for information.



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PAW 2007 - 15, 16 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I've been working on a set of photos taken on a day trip to Alcatraz  
in September 2006. These two photos caught my eye ... I'm not sure  
they fit with the rest of this set as yet, but they could be bookends.

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/15.htm
   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/16.htm

Comments, critique, and flames always appreciated. Larger renderings  
included as usual...

enjoy
Godfrey

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Re: PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Jay,

Thanks for sharing with us.  You and her are in my prayers.  That is a
sweet, touching shot that I am sure will be cherished.

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Monday, April 2, 2007, 5:50:47 PM, you wrote:

JT> PDML'rs,
JT> Definitely a great deal of sadness here with the Taylor family as we
JT> prepare to bid farewell to my Mom.
JT> She would be 88 years old on April 20th, but we are all but certain
JT> that she will not be able to celebrate this years birthday. Unable to
JT> recover from a colonectomy surgery performed in February coupled with
JT> Aortic Stenosis, her condition has continued to deteriorate over the
JT> past several weeks.
JT> She had not been eating and drinking enough to sustain herself and
JT> was back in the hospital within a couple weeks after surgery for  
JT> dehydration. With her fluids stabilized the hospital had informed us
JT> that they pretty much had done all they could do for her short of
JT> inserting a feeding tube which she would not want nor allow. The best
JT> thing that we could do for her is bring her home to be comfortable
JT> with hospice care.
JT> Fortunately, we had just bought a new house last summer with a  
JT> "Mother-in-Law" unit in the downstairs portion where my mom and  
JT> brother were able to move in with us. So, the three of us have been
JT> caring for her (my wife works from home) since her discharge about
JT> six weeks ago.
JT> At first we were hopeful that being back at home would give her the
JT> motivation and comfort to have better chance of recovery. She had
JT> been eating a little more and drinking Ensure protein drinks regularly.
JT> But she was still not taking in enough nutrients to sustain herself.
JT> It seemed that she had just lost all interest in food altogether  
JT> except for maybe chocolates and a few select fruits. At first she was
JT> walking around OK  even by herself with the help of the walker. But
JT> the last couple weeks she's gotten progressively worse to the point
JT> where we could no longer even take her to the bathroom via wheelchair
JT> because she started passing out  from just sitting on the commode.
JT> These past few days have been very difficult for all of us knowing
JT> that she does not have much time left here with us. Though we do have
JT> comfort in knowing that as a true disciple and saint of our Lord  
JT> Jesus and that a very special place in heaven awaits her.
JT> She is truly a very special person. Loved by many who know her and
JT> even those who've only had a chance to meet. You see, she is a very
JT> loving and humble human being. I can never remember her saying a  
JT> negative or cruel thing about any single person in her life. She is
JT> one of the most self-less persons I have ever known. Always willing
JT> to forsake her needs for those of her children and grandchildren and
JT> even people she didn't know very well at all. She has taught me so
JT> much about life by the example that she lived each and every day; the
JT> most important of which is Love. But if it hadn't been for her taking
JT> me to church as a young boy and teaching me about Jesus  I don't  
JT> think I'd be here to this day. I could have easily ended up  like
JT> many of my peers in jails, institutions or dead.
JT> It' really hard at the moment to really reflect on just how much she
JT> really means to me. I remain hopeful of better days ahead. Here is a
JT> photo I took of us shortly after her surgery:
JT> http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/63987/1/76532119.31qAeDgY.IMGP0707.jpg
JT> If you are so inclined, please pray that her passing will be  
JT> comforted by the Creator and those who love her.

JT> Thank you,
JT> John James Taylor, Jr. (aka JayT)





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Re: PESO: Crowded shop, NYC

[Bruce Dayton]

For me, this one screams out to be shot much wider - get real close
and shoot wide to emphasize how crowded it looks.  As presented, it
doesn't seem to portray what you experienced.

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Monday, April 2, 2007, 4:55:00 PM, you wrote:

RW> Another from our recent trip to New York City.  This
RW> is a nocturnal shot through the window of a
RW> vitamin-supplement shop in the Upper West Side.  It
RW> amazes me how much merchandise they cram into a small
RW> space in that neighborhood.

RW> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5801682

RW> ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, RAW, 1/60 @ f/4.5, cropping
RW> and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4.

RW> If there are no comments I'll start sulking again...

RW> Rick

RW> http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW


 
RW> 

RW> Don't pick lemons.
RW> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RW> http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html 




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Re: PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 2, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Jay Taylor wrote:

> ... Here is a photo I took of us shortly after her surgery:
> http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/63987/1/76532119.31qAeDgY.IMGP0707.jpg

A wonderful photo and tribute. She will live with you forever.

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Re: PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom

[Boris Liberman]

Jay, be strong! My heart goes out to you and your mother.

Boris

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Re: PESO: Wild geese

[Bruce Dayton]

Both are close to great, but just not quite.  The first is a bit
better, but could be really great with just a little more DOF so the
upper bird were as sharp as the lower bird.

The second shot is hampered by less than nice bokeh and compete color
of the dry grasses - maybe selectively desaturating them a bit would
help.

-- 
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Monday, April 2, 2007, 11:08:46 AM, you wrote:

JvW> Two new images, wild geese in the Oostvaardersplassen refuge
JvW> which is just arround the corner from my home (6 miles)

JvW> Two birds in a perfect formation:

JvW>http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=218

JvW> And one landing, just before touch down:

JvW>http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=220

JvW> Shot today with the 300 f/2.8 and stacked 1.4L and 1.7 AF converters
JvW> Comments welcome!

JvW> Regards, JvW

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Re: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 2, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Christian wrote:

> .. why don't YOU address the issues!

y'all got issues.

Nazi rule

G



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Re: Peso: Still More Birds

[Bruce Dayton]

Cool!  Works for me.  Love the B&W treatment on this.  Great eye.

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Monday, April 2, 2007, 10:56:13 AM, you wrote:

JD> This image would have been up during the recent "Hitchcock/Birds"
JD> banter had I not had an uploading link problem.
JD> Late, but link now, hopefully, fixed. 

JD> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=220

JD> Jack

JD> Shot at local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area. 
JD> A* 300 f/2.8 w/1.4L t/c on Provia 100F.

JD> Comments welcome.


 
JD> 

JD> Finding fabulous fares is fun.  
JD> Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to
JD> find flight and hotel bargains.
JD> http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097




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Re: PESO - Woman on a Bench

[Bruce Dayton]

Odd, my first impression was that she was rubbing her eye like she was
tired, rather than crying.

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Monday, April 2, 2007, 7:52:36 AM, you wrote:

Eac> In a message dated 4/2/2007 7:43:05 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
Eac> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
Eac> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/womanonbench.html

Eac> istDS  w/K85/1.8 @ f5.6

Eac> Shel

Eac> =
Eac> Nice one, Shel. It does make  one wonder what is upsetting her.

Eac> Marnie aka Doe :-)  




Eac> ** See what's free at 
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Re: PESO - Field

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks for your comments.  I tend to agree with you.  I think that is
why it works for me too.

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Monday, April 2, 2007, 10:06:31 AM, you wrote:

SB> Hi Bruce,

SB> I like this photo quite a bit.  Somehow it seems a step or two removed from
SB> the more typical bird closeup - putting the little winged creature into a
SB> larger context than just a closeup on a branch seems to get me more
SB> "involved" with the scene, somewhat akin to having been there as opposed to
SB> just looking at a pic that should be in a book about bird identification.
SB> The second (tighter cropped) version works best for me.

SB> Shel



>> [Original Message]
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> Many thanks to those of you  who took the time to comment.  
>> This shot evoked some mixed  feelings.  I have taken Ken's 
>> suggestion and tried  a crop:
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4616a.htm
>>
>> Original:
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4616.htm






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Re: PESO: Perch passing

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Jan,

Kind of a cool shot - not something I see very often.  Conditions
don't look ideal, but the scene captured is quite documentary.  Keep
them coming!

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Sunday, April 1, 2007, 11:12:58 AM, you wrote:

JvW> While testing the new Manfrotto-393 and monopod with
JvW> the 300mm f/2.8 I witnessed another Grebe fish meal:

JvW>http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=217

JvW> It was shot using this setup (on a monopod):

JvW>http://merlin/gallery/index.php?id=1314

JvW> Comments welcome!

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Re: GOSE: My first soccer game

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks for sharing the information.  Hopefully you are aware that the
focus point selection is independent of AF-S or AF-C.  You can choose
a single AF point and then use AF-C.  Or maybe you were having
problems with needing different points rapidly and couldn't switch
them fast enough and the All points missed too many times?

I don't shoot soccer so much - and if I do, it is younger kids up to
teens.  I have tended to use a medium/long zoom and just miss the
really close shots or go for a less than full body.  Sometimes just a
tight shot can be pretty cool.  Certainly one problem is that the
other side of the field could use about a 300 or so and the near side
could use about a 35.  Big range.

I look forward to your next shoot.

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Sunday, April 1, 2007, 11:27:25 PM, you wrote:

JB> Hello Bruce - thanks for noticing and answering..
JB> You have got a very good point about hte DOF, Bruce.
JB> I guess, I was not comfident enough, that I could focus correctly enought to
JB> go down to F.3.5-4.5.
JB> I shot all shots at F. 5.6 - F8. Basically I used Tv and chose 1/1250 or
JB> 1/1000 sec's.
JB> I used AF most of the time (mostly not fast enough).  I tried AF-C, but that
JB> didin't work - too many optional focus points - the camera kept focusing at
JB> the background (the sponsor add).

JB> Manual foucs didn'¨t work either - the movemnets of the players was too
JB> unpredictable. (Or I am out of prctice).
JB> So, I finally settled for AF-S.
JB> Naturally I used my true everyday servant - my monopod!

JB> I had problems with lenses - I had to change between 28-70mm, and 80-200mm
JB> frequently.
JB> I did notice that the pro's at the site usded two cameras, for that very
JB> same reason.

JB> I guess that the best focal length for a soccer game would be something like
JB> 35-150mm or even 28-180mm. It seems to me Pentax is missing a lens in this
JB> range. The DA 50-200mm gets close, though. But for indoor ball games this
JB> would be too slow.

JB> Sigma males a 50-150mm F. 2.8. Tokina makes a  50-135mm F. 2.8 - both of
JB> which wouls be just about suitable for such work. I gues my F1:4/45-125mm
JB> would be fine great if it  had AF! I guess it's long focusing turns will be
JB> a problem, if used with MF.

JB> I'm going to shoot annother soccer game on thursday. I guess I'll be
JB> bringing the 45-125mm AND two cameras - just in case :-)

JB> Which lens do you guys use for ball games?

JB> Jens Bladt

JB> http://www.jensbladt.dk
JB> +45 56 63 77 11
JB> +45 23 43 85 77
JB> Skype: jensbladt248

JB> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
JB> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bruce
JB> Dayton
JB> Sendt: 2. april 2007 02:20
JB> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
JB> Emne: Re: GOSE: My first soccer game


JB> Hello Jens,

JB> Good shots of the action.  You managed to catch some pretty good
JB> moments.  The only thing that stood out to me a bit was that the DOF
JB> was quite wide.  For some shots, that worked pretty well, but for
JB> some, it seemed that there was a lot of background competing for my
JB> attention.

JB> I would be very interested if you would go in to some detail on how
JB> you shot this - camera, lens, techniques (metering, AF, etc).  For
JB> being out of practice, you done well.

JB> --
JB> Bruce


JB> Sunday, April 1, 2007, 3:47:34 PM, you wrote:

JB>> My home town is going to build a new football stadium.
JB>> So, the planning department (that's where I work) wants photographs from
JB> the
JB>> old one - for a public meeting on the subject.
JB>> I haven't photographed a real soccer game since the early 1980'ies -
JB> before
JB>> Auto Focus was common.
JB>> I was surprised how difficult it was :-)
JB>> Hopefully I'll do a little better next time...
JB>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157600041128273/show/

JB>> Regards
JB>> Jens Bladt

JB>> http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Re: OT- Bessa Cameras

[Boris Liberman]

Walt, here is a bit of anecdotal evidence to you. One of the guys in the 
local camera club has exactly this combo - Bessa camera (one without 
built-in viewfinder) and 15/4.5 lens. The lens is tiny, the outcome is 
tremendous. It is very well corrected (very rectilinear) and it is very 
sharp. Lovely piece of gear if you ask me.

Boris



Walter Hamler wrote:
> The discussion on the Voightlander 125mm Macro led me to the websight where 
> I discovered their listings for the Bessa cameras.
> I remember fondling one of the L models when they first came out, and it 
> intrigued me, especially with either the 12 or 15mm lens.
> Now that I am shooting digital only, I find a desire for a really superwide 
> lens that is not FE distorted, but the options for the Pentax are very 
> limited if not non-existant.
> The price of a Bessa L with the 15mm lens would actually be cheaper than a 
> Sigma 10~20 zoom, and the image quality would undoubtably be better.  Just 
> wondering if any of you have had any thoughts as to this camera/lens combo?
> 
> Walt 
> 
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Re: OT Planes and cameras

[Stan Halpin]

Best strategy is to carry as much of your electronic gear (including  
camera(s), charger(s), batteries, phone, charger, conversion plugs,  
etc etc) with you on the plane as you can manage. They may hand  
inspect your bag, but you'll be there to watch the process. Actually,  
it has been many trips since they last gave my camera+electronics bag  
a second glance. They are much more nervous about wires & strange  
objects in checked bags, and those screeners have less practice in  
sorting out typical cameras etc from more bizarre/threatening stuff.

Stan

On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Heading to Las Vegas Sunday and will be taking a very light bag. Just
> the K10D, the 16-45 and 50-200 with maybe the A 28 and A50.
> No flash.
>
> I think its still ok to carry on a camera bag that fits under the seat
> or in the over head, is it not.
>
> In 2005, the US custom guy didi not care about my cameras.
>
> Dave
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Re: PESO - Harriman Reservoir

[Russell Kerstetter]

Shel and Godders-

Thanks for taking the time to show me some alternative solutions.  I
like both of your different takes, I also like that you were able to
brighten the whole thing up without losing the cloud detail.  I
fiddled around for a while this evening, but was not able to duplicate
our results.  I can brighten it up some, but by the time I start to
lose cloud detail the water in the lake is still too dark.  But that
may be the price I have to pay for using free software :)  So I will
have to mess around with this some more again tomorrow evening and see
what I can come up with.  Thanks again.

Russ

On 4/2/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your original was rendered extremely dark, Russell. It's a simple
> landscape scene ... rendered up with a bit bit of balancing between
> water and sky, you get this rather nice, rather serene feel out of
> it. I took the liberty of doing a couple of edits to give you an idea
> where I'd go with it... It includes your original so you can see the
> differences easily.
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/rk2882/
>
> This is a case where if I was using Lightroom I could likely do most
> of what I did with its tools, and presuming I had the RAW file to
> work with, but with just an 8bit image file to work with Photoshop
> allows the kind of gentle, selective editing required to bring this up.
>
> 1- Don't underexpose. Determine where the brightest elements are that
> you want to retain detail in and expose correctly for that ...
> Placing exposure properly like that takes a little time to figure out
> and if you're not sure you should bracket exposure around it. The
> histogram shows you an approximation based on values in the JPEG
> preview that is rendered for every file, but if you're capturing in
> RAW you can work with what looks like a little bit of highlight
> overexposures on the histogram. It's not rigorously calibrated, you
> have to work with it to understand what you're seeing.
>
> 2- Yes, this is a problem. Your screen looks overly bright compared
> to the ambient light and that's tricking your eye. Better to
> calibrate and profile the screen in modest, normal room light and
> work that way so that your eyes and the screen are at proper
> luminance values. I calibrate my screen for 140 lumens, gamma 1.8 and
> 5500K white point in normal, indirect room illumination. Move any
> light that glares on the screen to a different position so that's not
> a problem. This will make a huge difference in how your photos come out.
>
> Godfrey
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote:
>
> > Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest.  When
> > I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an uninteresting
> > picture.  Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function on my
> > DL.
> >
> > I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark.  To be
> > clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or anything like
> > that, right?
> >
> > I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment
> > further):
> >
> > 1)  Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, specifically
> > on shots like this.  I really like detail in the clouds and am afraid
> > of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important aspect of
> > the picture.  IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights
> > touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?)
> > but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably darker
> > than just a half-stop.
> >
> > 2) I usually work in a dark room because I hate glare off the screen.
> > I have been running my mac on gamma 1.8 instead of 2.2, but from what
> > I am hearing I think that is a negligible part of my problem.
> >
> > Russ
> > (here to learn)
> >
> > On 4/1/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This is a reservoir/lake near my mother-in-law's house.  Also this is
> >> the first photo I have processed with iPhoto.  I was using Lightroom
> >> beta, iPhoto definately has less features and some irritating
> >> limitations, but it does have the 'touch-up' tool, which is pretty
> >> handy.
> >>
> >> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2882.html
> >>
> >> Honest comments please, thanks for looking.
> >>
> >> Russ
> >>
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Re: April PUG is open

[ann sanfedele]

Walter Hamler wrote:

>Well, the July Theme is "Visual Pollution", so I would say there should be 
>lots of good entries from the USA!!!
>I'm thinking billboards and junkyards here!
>
>Walt 
>
>
>  
>
Well I won't want to take anything at GFM for that month - its much too 
beautiful!

Actually I have tons of stuff from my files that will fit in very 
nicely, alas

ann


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Re: OT Planes and cameras

[John Francis]

On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:05:46PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote:
> 
> A 16-45 and 50 200 going to be good enough for this Ken. I'm travelling light.

I'm not :-)   I've got the 80-200 as well as the K10D, *ist-D, 18-55,
10-17, 28-105 and a couple of 50mms.  But I'm driving, not flying.


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Re: OT Planes and cameras

[John Francis]

On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 01:42:13PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> Dave, if you've got half a day, you gotta go to Valley of Fire state park. 
> About 70 miles north east of Vegas. Otherworldly! Its a small park but well 
> worth the trip.
> 
> Kenneth Waller

Hmmm.   I'm wending my way towards Vegas; I'm typing this in a motel room
halfway down I15 from Salt Lake City, heading for Bryce Canyon tomorrow,
and Zion the day after.  I'll have to look up Valley of Fire on the map.


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Re: PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom

[Kenneth Waller]

Jay, a wonderful photo!  Maybe the most memorable you'll ever take.

I will pray for peace for your mother & family.

Be well.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jay Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom


> PDML'rs,
> Definitely a great deal of sadness here with the Taylor family as we  
> prepare to bid farewell to my Mom.
> She would be 88 years old on April 20th, but we are all but certain  
> that she will not be able to celebrate this years birthday. Unable to  
> recover from a colonectomy surgery performed in February coupled with  
> Aortic Stenosis, her condition has continued to deteriorate over the  
> past several weeks.
> She had not been eating and drinking enough to sustain herself and  
> was back in the hospital within a couple weeks after surgery for  
> dehydration. With her fluids stabilized the hospital had informed us  
> that they pretty much had done all they could do for her short of  
> inserting a feeding tube which she would not want nor allow. The best  
> thing that we could do for her is bring her home to be comfortable  
> with hospice care.
> Fortunately, we had just bought a new house last summer with a  
> "Mother-in-Law" unit in the downstairs portion where my mom and  
> brother were able to move in with us. So, the three of us have been  
> caring for her (my wife works from home) since her discharge about  
> six weeks ago.
> At first we were hopeful that being back at home would give her the  
> motivation and comfort to have better chance of recovery. She had  
> been eating a little more and drinking Ensure protein drinks regularly.
> But she was still not taking in enough nutrients to sustain herself.  
> It seemed that she had just lost all interest in food altogether  
> except for maybe chocolates and a few select fruits. At first she was  
> walking around OK  even by herself with the help of the walker. But  
> the last couple weeks she's gotten progressively worse to the point  
> where we could no longer even take her to the bathroom via wheelchair  
> because she started passing out  from just sitting on the commode.
> These past few days have been very difficult for all of us knowing  
> that she does not have much time left here with us. Though we do have  
> comfort in knowing that as a true disciple and saint of our Lord  
> Jesus and that a very special place in heaven awaits her.
> She is truly a very special person. Loved by many who know her and  
> even those who've only had a chance to meet. You see, she is a very  
> loving and humble human being. I can never remember her saying a  
> negative or cruel thing about any single person in her life. She is  
> one of the most self-less persons I have ever known. Always willing  
> to forsake her needs for those of her children and grandchildren and  
> even people she didn't know very well at all. She has taught me so  
> much about life by the example that she lived each and every day; the  
> most important of which is Love. But if it hadn't been for her taking  
> me to church as a young boy and teaching me about Jesus  I don't  
> think I'd be here to this day. I could have easily ended up  like  
> many of my peers in jails, institutions or dead.
> It' really hard at the moment to really reflect on just how much she  
> really means to me. I remain hopeful of better days ahead. Here is a  
> photo I took of us shortly after her surgery:
> http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/63987/1/76532119.31qAeDgY.IMGP0707.jpg
> If you are so inclined, please pray that her passing will be  
> comforted by the Creator and those who love her.
> 
> Thank you,
> John James Taylor, Jr. (aka JayT)


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Re: GESO: Photos taken in near total darkness...

[Adam Maas]

Charles Robinson wrote:
> Did you ever bring a camera with to a show only to find out that  
> there wasn't ANY LIGHTING on the darned stage?
> 
> I just saw a band last weekend where the fastest shutter speed I  
> could use (with the DS) was 1/15 of a second, at ISO 1600, with an  
> F2.8 lens cranked wide open.

How about 1/30, f1.4 and ISO 3200? That was the band I shot 2 weeks ago 
(one dim red spot, no other usable light, argh). It truly is a pain.

> 
> It was so dark that half the time I could not even tell if I had the  
> darned frame in focus.  With that in mind, I got some shots that I  
> guess you could call "moody" if you wanted to be generous.  I shot  
> about 418 frames and these 18 shots are all that I was left with  
> after the selection/editing process.
> 
> RAW would have made more usable images, but 418 images in RAW mode?   
> Not really practical!

Batch conversions are your friend. As are big cards.

> 
> With that in mind, for some sick reason, I thought I would share the  
> results.  The bass player likes 'em, anyways  (And it's a fun band)
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2007/NewStandards/index.html
> 
>   -Charles
> 
>

-Adam

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Re: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[Adam Maas]

David,

All bluster aside, JCO's right on the technical side. The dpi listed in 
the file is irrelevant to the display on a monitor, where only the 
actual resolution of the file matters, dpi only matters on print output, 
where it determines the physical size of the printout.

As most displays are around 80-100ppi (72ppi is archaic and hasn't been 
the case since the mid-90's and the death of single-resolution 
monitors), a 1200 pixel image will be around 12-15" wide on most modern 
monitors (depending on the actual running resolution).

-Adam




David Savage wrote:
> Suit yourself.
> 
> All I know is your bucking a lot of tried and true practices for displaying 
> images on the web to suit your vision of how the rest of the internet using 
> population should be working.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 09:30 AM 3/04/2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>> Do the math, it aint anywhere near
>> 240ppi, the data you are using/reading/believing is
>> incorrect...The screen would have to be only
>> 5" wide to get 240ppi with a 1200pixel wide image.
>> I dont know anybody using that size screen or
>> screen resolutions so extremely high that the displayed
>> image would only be that wide on a typical 19" screen.
>> jco
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> David Savage
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:07 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: RE:
>> WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
>>
>>
>> I'm getting my numbers from your files John. Here's a basic Photoshop
>> lesson.
>>
>> Open a file in PS, this one will do:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Go to Image>Image Size... You will note:
>>
>> Pixel Dimensions
>> Width: 1200 pixels
>> Height: 801 pixels
>>
>> Document Size:
>> Resolution: 240 pixels/inch (that's pixels per inch, or ppi)
>>
>> As I said, 240 ppi is a print resolution, 72 ppi is plenty enough for
>> web
>> images.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 01:01 AM 3/04/2007, you wrote:
>>> I dont know where you are getting 240ppi number from but
>>> on a typical 19" monitor even a 1200 pixel wide image
>>> is only about 100ppi which is NOT overkill, I can easily
>>> see the improvement over 800 or even 1024 pixels wide.
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>> David Savage
>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:02 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re:
>>> WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally I always use 1024x768 as my assumed baseline resolution for
>>> preparing web images, even though my system runs at 1280x1024. If I
>>> think a particular shot suffers because of this, then I add a link to a
>>> higher resolution file.
>>>
>>> And BTW John, 240 ppi for a web image is massive overkill, that's print
>>> resolution. 72 is more than enough & it also results in smaller files
>>> which is a bonus for those on slower connections.
>>>
>>> Dave
> 
> 


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April PUG is open

[Walter Hamler]

Well, the July Theme is "Visual Pollution", so I would say there should be 
lots of good entries from the USA!!!
I'm thinking billboards and junkyards here!

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RE: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[J. C. O'Connell]

I said this was just a temporary quick and dirty, higher
image quality posting to a group, the rest
of the internet world doesnt even know it exists. If I was
going to do something more permanent or important,
I would use multible image size photos and bigger
thumbnails,,,This was a just a "stock" photoshop web gallery
automatic type deal to make it easier to post a bunch of
photos in a hurry...
jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Savage
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:21 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE:
WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...


Suit yourself.

All I know is your bucking a lot of tried and true practices for
displaying 
images on the web to suit your vision of how the rest of the internet
using 
population should be working.

Cheers,

Dave

At 09:30 AM 3/04/2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>Do the math, it aint anywhere near
>240ppi, the data you are using/reading/believing is incorrect...The 
>screen would have to be only 5" wide to get 240ppi with a 1200pixel 
>wide image. I dont know anybody using that size screen or
>screen resolutions so extremely high that the displayed
>image would only be that wide on a typical 19" screen.
>jco
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

>David Savage
>Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:07 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: RE: 
>WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
>
>
>I'm getting my numbers from your files John. Here's a basic Photoshop 
>lesson.
>
>Open a file in PS, this one will do:
>
>
>
>Go to Image>Image Size... You will note:
>
>Pixel Dimensions
>Width: 1200 pixels
>Height: 801 pixels
>
>Document Size:
>Resolution: 240 pixels/inch (that's pixels per inch, or ppi)
>
>As I said, 240 ppi is a print resolution, 72 ppi is plenty enough for 
>web images.
>
>Dave
>
>At 01:01 AM 3/04/2007, you wrote:
> >I dont know where you are getting 240ppi number from but
> >on a typical 19" monitor even a 1200 pixel wide image
> >is only about 100ppi which is NOT overkill, I can easily
> >see the improvement over 800 or even 1024 pixels wide.
> >jco
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> >Of
>
> >David Savage
> >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:02 PM
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >Subject: Re: 
> >WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
> >
> >
> >Personally I always use 1024x768 as my assumed baseline resolution 
> >for preparing web images, even though my system runs at 1280x1024. If

> >I think a particular shot suffers because of this, then I add a link 
> >to a
>
> >higher resolution file.
> >
> >And BTW John, 240 ppi for a web image is massive overkill, that's 
> >print
>
> >resolution. 72 is more than enough & it also results in smaller files

> >which is a bonus for those on slower connections.
> >
> >Dave


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Re: PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom

[Paul Stenquist]

My prayers are with your mother. A lovely photograph. Thanks for  
sharing.
Paul
On Apr 2, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Jay Taylor wrote:

> PDML'rs,
> Definitely a great deal of sadness here with the Taylor family as we
> prepare to bid farewell to my Mom.
> She would be 88 years old on April 20th, but we are all but certain
> that she will not be able to celebrate this years birthday. Unable to
> recover from a colonectomy surgery performed in February coupled with
> Aortic Stenosis, her condition has continued to deteriorate over the
> past several weeks.
> She had not been eating and drinking enough to sustain herself and
> was back in the hospital within a couple weeks after surgery for
> dehydration. With her fluids stabilized the hospital had informed us
> that they pretty much had done all they could do for her short of
> inserting a feeding tube which she would not want nor allow. The best
> thing that we could do for her is bring her home to be comfortable
> with hospice care.
> Fortunately, we had just bought a new house last summer with a
> "Mother-in-Law" unit in the downstairs portion where my mom and
> brother were able to move in with us. So, the three of us have been
> caring for her (my wife works from home) since her discharge about
> six weeks ago.
> At first we were hopeful that being back at home would give her the
> motivation and comfort to have better chance of recovery. She had
> been eating a little more and drinking Ensure protein drinks  
> regularly.
> But she was still not taking in enough nutrients to sustain herself.
> It seemed that she had just lost all interest in food altogether
> except for maybe chocolates and a few select fruits. At first she was
> walking around OK  even by herself with the help of the walker. But
> the last couple weeks she's gotten progressively worse to the point
> where we could no longer even take her to the bathroom via wheelchair
> because she started passing out  from just sitting on the commode.
> These past few days have been very difficult for all of us knowing
> that she does not have much time left here with us. Though we do have
> comfort in knowing that as a true disciple and saint of our Lord
> Jesus and that a very special place in heaven awaits her.
> She is truly a very special person. Loved by many who know her and
> even those who've only had a chance to meet. You see, she is a very
> loving and humble human being. I can never remember her saying a
> negative or cruel thing about any single person in her life. She is
> one of the most self-less persons I have ever known. Always willing
> to forsake her needs for those of her children and grandchildren and
> even people she didn't know very well at all. She has taught me so
> much about life by the example that she lived each and every day; the
> most important of which is Love. But if it hadn't been for her taking
> me to church as a young boy and teaching me about Jesus  I don't
> think I'd be here to this day. I could have easily ended up  like
> many of my peers in jails, institutions or dead.
> It' really hard at the moment to really reflect on just how much she
> really means to me. I remain hopeful of better days ahead. Here is a
> photo I took of us shortly after her surgery:
> http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/63987/1/76532119.31qAeDgY.IMGP0707.jpg
> If you are so inclined, please pray that her passing will be
> comforted by the Creator and those who love her.
>
> Thank you,
> John James Taylor, Jr. (aka JayT)
>
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PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom

[Walter Hamler]

Thank you JayT for such a powerful testimony for your mom and yourself. My 
prayers will be for both of you!!
Me and my brothers have had to have my mom put in an assisted living center 
late last year. We thought sure it would kill her. But, she has actually 
improved and seems to like it and the company of others. She will be 85 in 
June. It is hard when they get that old.

God Bless!!

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RE: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[David Savage]

Suit yourself.

All I know is your bucking a lot of tried and true practices for displaying 
images on the web to suit your vision of how the rest of the internet using 
population should be working.

Cheers,

Dave

At 09:30 AM 3/04/2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>Do the math, it aint anywhere near
>240ppi, the data you are using/reading/believing is
>incorrect...The screen would have to be only
>5" wide to get 240ppi with a 1200pixel wide image.
>I dont know anybody using that size screen or
>screen resolutions so extremely high that the displayed
>image would only be that wide on a typical 19" screen.
>jco
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>David Savage
>Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:07 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: RE:
>WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
>
>
>I'm getting my numbers from your files John. Here's a basic Photoshop
>lesson.
>
>Open a file in PS, this one will do:
>
>
>
>Go to Image>Image Size... You will note:
>
>Pixel Dimensions
>Width: 1200 pixels
>Height: 801 pixels
>
>Document Size:
>Resolution: 240 pixels/inch (that's pixels per inch, or ppi)
>
>As I said, 240 ppi is a print resolution, 72 ppi is plenty enough for
>web
>images.
>
>Dave
>
>At 01:01 AM 3/04/2007, you wrote:
> >I dont know where you are getting 240ppi number from but
> >on a typical 19" monitor even a 1200 pixel wide image
> >is only about 100ppi which is NOT overkill, I can easily
> >see the improvement over 800 or even 1024 pixels wide.
> >jco
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>
> >David Savage
> >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:02 PM
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >Subject: Re:
> >WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
> >
> >
> >Personally I always use 1024x768 as my assumed baseline resolution for
> >preparing web images, even though my system runs at 1280x1024. If I
> >think a particular shot suffers because of this, then I add a link to a
>
> >higher resolution file.
> >
> >And BTW John, 240 ppi for a web image is massive overkill, that's print
>
> >resolution. 72 is more than enough & it also results in smaller files
> >which is a bonus for those on slower connections.
> >
> >Dave


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Re: Is it possible to buy a Pentax lens in Sydney?

[Stephen]

I have now been advised ' There has been a further delay ' by Kennedys. End of 
this month now!

Four months. And waiting.

Is this happening in other countries? Or just Australia?

Stephen

At 17:23 19/02/2007, you wrote:

>Thanks for the encouraging words.
>
>The camera store rang me on Saturday and apologized for the problem on the 
>phone. They told me, probably another couple of weeks. And interestingly said 
>that all the distributors here do not know what is in a shipment until it 
>arrives!
>
>Does Pentax just decide what to send and Kennedys have to just ware it?
>
>I received and e mail from Kennedys today: " The revised delivery time is now 
>late March. " Certainly a bit different to before xmas.
>
>That's about five months. It certainly seems the B&H is more efficient at 
>obtaining stock!
>
>Both the camera store and Kennedys have now suggested that I buy a Sigma item 
>instead.
>
>I am happy with the camera store, they are at least trying to get the lens for 
>me. Others did not even give me the courtesy of letting me know that they 
>wouldn't try to get a Pentax lens.
>
>I'm never going to order an item that comes via Kennedys again! If I happen to 
>see an item in a shop, at the right time, I'll buy it. But I'll not order 
>anything!
>
>
>Stephen
>
>At 18:21 16/02/2007, you wrote:
>
>>In the middle of October I went to local camera stores and asked for a price 
>>on some lenses. I was told they would have to get back to me and took my 
>>phone number. I have still not heard from them.
>>
>>I waited and then figured maybe the lenses are not in stock so I e mailed 
>>Kennedys about the smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4. They replied on  13-11-6 and told 
>>me it was in stock and asked me which retailer to send it to.
>>
>>I didn't want to reward any of those who did not quote before and I wanted an 
>>idea of how much it would cost. So I asked three stores near where my lover 
>>works for a price. And I have not heard from them re the price either.
>>
>>Then I called into another camera shop on my way past on spec and was 
>>actually quoted a price. I ordered the lens though them and paid a deposit on 
>>22-11-6. They expected availability on 10-12-6.
>>
>>It did not arrive as expected so I asked Kennedys and they told me a shipment 
>>was due in before xmas and they 'will do our best to get it to them before 
>>Xmas '.
>>
>>Around xmas, I'm in trouble because my lover could not give me the lens for 
>>xmas. But the shop did advise me they expected the lens in the middle of 
>>January.
>>
>>Around the middle of January, I'm in the shit because my lover could not give 
>>me the lens for your anniversary and she knows I could have got the lens from 
>>B&H by now.
>>
>>On 31-1-7 Kennedys advised me that a shipment is arriving in a couple of 
>>weeks. The shop tells me six days. 
>>
>>Not being overly optimistic I waited until today to ring the shop. The person 
>>that answered the phone could not check the status of my order, nor were they 
>>allowed to transfer my call to someone who could. I'm not happy.
>>
>>Four months. And wondering ' Is it possible to buying a Pentax lens in 
>>Sydney? '
>>
>>
>>Stephen
>>
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Stephen's Snaps

This week  Truk photos.

http://photo.ebearweb.net/

Simply nice photos, Landscape, Seascape, Underwater, The Northern Beaches 
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RE: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[J. C. O'Connell]

right, so why bother to make them smaller
for inadequate systems running low rez displays?
I think there is some confusion here, this
wasnt/isnt a typical web gallery designed
for general population, this was posted
for a specific group of people, the Pentax
mailing list to be specific, and this
group should have, in my opinion a higher
spec of computer than average for viewing
photos, and should have a greater appreciation
than average of image quality that a 1200
pixel image affords vs say 800 or 1024
size images. Whatever, hey they are my
photos after all and I am the only one
who saw them full size, so I am in a better
position to say if the loss at 800 or
1024 was tolerable or not to me. Whatever...
jco

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J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> If you see ANY photo at 1500 pixels wide which
> is how I view them usually for full image, going smaller
> like to 800 pixels wide really hurts the details a LOT. Apparently you

> dont care or think it matters, but then why buy a 6/10Mp camera and 
> not care whether your photos are reduced in details way down to only 1

> Mp or less?

For a web gallery, yes..  Who gives a shit, John?  I print them at full 
res, but the web galleries are designed to fit on ANY monitor (hence 800

pixels on the longest side).  There were some cool cars in your gallery 
but my laptop (free from work; don't tell me to upgrade it) has a max 
resolution of 1024x768.  Honestly, the fact that they are jpegs has 
degraded the image enough, so again, who gives a shit?

-- 

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RE: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[J. C. O'Connell]

Do the math, it aint anywhere near
240ppi, the data you are using/reading/believing is
incorrect...The screen would have to be only
5" wide to get 240ppi with a 1200pixel wide image.
I dont know anybody using that size screen or
screen resolutions so extremely high that the displayed
image would only be that wide on a typical 19" screen.
jco

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I'm getting my numbers from your files John. Here's a basic Photoshop
lesson.

Open a file in PS, this one will do:



Go to Image>Image Size... You will note:

Pixel Dimensions
Width: 1200 pixels
Height: 801 pixels

Document Size:
Resolution: 240 pixels/inch (that's pixels per inch, or ppi)

As I said, 240 ppi is a print resolution, 72 ppi is plenty enough for
web 
images.

Dave

At 01:01 AM 3/04/2007, you wrote:
>I dont know where you are getting 240ppi number from but
>on a typical 19" monitor even a 1200 pixel wide image
>is only about 100ppi which is NOT overkill, I can easily
>see the improvement over 800 or even 1024 pixels wide.
>jco
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

>David Savage
>Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:02 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: 
>WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
>
>
>Personally I always use 1024x768 as my assumed baseline resolution for 
>preparing web images, even though my system runs at 1280x1024. If I 
>think a particular shot suffers because of this, then I add a link to a

>higher resolution file.
>
>And BTW John, 240 ppi for a web image is massive overkill, that's print

>resolution. 72 is more than enough & it also results in smaller files 
>which is a bonus for those on slower connections.
>
>Dave
>
>On 4/2/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you see ANY photo at 1500 pixels wide which
> > is how I view them usually for full image, going smaller like to 800

> > pixels wide really hurts the details a LOT. Apparently you
>
> > dont care or think it matters, but then why buy a 6/10Mp camera and 
> > not care whether your photos are reduced in details way down to only

> > 1
>
> > Mp or less? jco
>
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Re: PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom

[David J Brooks]

A lovely Photo Jay.

I'm sorry to hear this.

Dave


On 4/2/07, Jay Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PDML'rs,
> Definitely a great deal of sadness here with the Taylor family as we
> prepare to bid farewell to my Mom.
> She would be 88 years old on April 20th, but we are all but certain
> that she will not be able to celebrate this years birthday. Unable to
> recover from a colonectomy surgery performed in February coupled with
> Aortic Stenosis, her condition has continued to deteriorate over the
> past several weeks.
> She had not been eating and drinking enough to sustain herself and
> was back in the hospital within a couple weeks after surgery for
> dehydration. With her fluids stabilized the hospital had informed us
> that they pretty much had done all they could do for her short of
> inserting a feeding tube which she would not want nor allow. The best
> thing that we could do for her is bring her home to be comfortable
> with hospice care.
> Fortunately, we had just bought a new house last summer with a
> "Mother-in-Law" unit in the downstairs portion where my mom and
> brother were able to move in with us. So, the three of us have been
> caring for her (my wife works from home) since her discharge about
> six weeks ago.
> At first we were hopeful that being back at home would give her the
> motivation and comfort to have better chance of recovery. She had
> been eating a little more and drinking Ensure protein drinks regularly.
> But she was still not taking in enough nutrients to sustain herself.
> It seemed that she had just lost all interest in food altogether
> except for maybe chocolates and a few select fruits. At first she was
> walking around OK  even by herself with the help of the walker. But
> the last couple weeks she's gotten progressively worse to the point
> where we could no longer even take her to the bathroom via wheelchair
> because she started passing out  from just sitting on the commode.
> These past few days have been very difficult for all of us knowing
> that she does not have much time left here with us. Though we do have
> comfort in knowing that as a true disciple and saint of our Lord
> Jesus and that a very special place in heaven awaits her.
> She is truly a very special person. Loved by many who know her and
> even those who've only had a chance to meet. You see, she is a very
> loving and humble human being. I can never remember her saying a
> negative or cruel thing about any single person in her life. She is
> one of the most self-less persons I have ever known. Always willing
> to forsake her needs for those of her children and grandchildren and
> even people she didn't know very well at all. She has taught me so
> much about life by the example that she lived each and every day; the
> most important of which is Love. But if it hadn't been for her taking
> me to church as a young boy and teaching me about Jesus  I don't
> think I'd be here to this day. I could have easily ended up  like
> many of my peers in jails, institutions or dead.
> It' really hard at the moment to really reflect on just how much she
> really means to me. I remain hopeful of better days ahead. Here is a
> photo I took of us shortly after her surgery:
> http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/63987/1/76532119.31qAeDgY.IMGP0707.jpg
> If you are so inclined, please pray that her passing will be
> comforted by the Creator and those who love her.
>
> Thank you,
> John James Taylor, Jr. (aka JayT)
>
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RE: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[David Savage]

I'm getting my numbers from your files John. Here's a basic Photoshop lesson.

Open a file in PS, this one will do:



Go to Image>Image Size... You will note:

Pixel Dimensions
Width: 1200 pixels
Height: 801 pixels

Document Size:
Resolution: 240 pixels/inch (that's pixels per inch, or ppi)

As I said, 240 ppi is a print resolution, 72 ppi is plenty enough for web 
images.

Dave

At 01:01 AM 3/04/2007, you wrote:
>I dont know where you are getting 240ppi number from but
>on a typical 19" monitor even a 1200 pixel wide image
>is only about 100ppi which is NOT overkill, I can easily
>see the improvement over 800 or even 1024 pixels wide.
>jco
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>David Savage
>Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:02 PM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re:
>WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
>
>
>Personally I always use 1024x768 as my assumed baseline resolution for
>preparing web images, even though my system runs at 1280x1024. If I
>think a particular shot suffers because of this, then I add a link to a
>higher resolution file.
>
>And BTW John, 240 ppi for a web image is massive overkill, that's print
>resolution. 72 is more than enough & it also results in smaller files
>which is a bonus for those on slower connections.
>
>Dave
>
>On 4/2/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you see ANY photo at 1500 pixels wide which
> > is how I view them usually for full image, going smaller
> > like to 800 pixels wide really hurts the details a LOT. Apparently you
>
> > dont care or think it matters, but then why buy a 6/10Mp camera and
> > not care whether your photos are reduced in details way down to only 1
>
> > Mp or less? jco
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Re: April PUG is open

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/2/2007 10:09:31 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok - hey I have a great  idea, I'll borrow your DS at GFM to shoot 
something especially for the July  PUG.  :)

Hmmm lets see what the theme is for JUly before I say  that!

ann


You got it.

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Re: OT Planes and cameras

[David J Brooks]

Booked the tickets, and Liz and I are heading out on the Tuesday.

Thanks for that tip Ken

Your hat will be $9.00:-)

Dave

On 4/2/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A 16-45 and 50 200 going to be good enough for this Ken. I'm travelling
> > light.
>
> Should be. I last shot there with a 28-80 & 70-210.
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: OT Planes and cameras
>
>
> > Wow. Just had a look on the net. Looks breath taking.
> >
> > Did a quick Google search and i see they have SUV tours from 8am pick
> > up to mid afternoon return. Seems like a good way to go, and not have
> > to rent a car, find my way around etc.
> >
> > A 16-45 and 50 200 going to be good enough for this Ken. I'm travelling
> > light.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 4/2/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Dave, if you've got half a day, you gotta go to Valley of Fire state
> >> park.
> >> About 70 miles north east of Vegas. Otherworldly! Its a small park but
> >> well
> >> worth the trip.
> >>
> >> Kenneth Waller
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: OT Planes and cameras
> >>
> >>
> >> > Heading to Las Vegas Sunday and will be taking a very light bag. Just
> >> > the K10D, the 16-45 and 50-200 with maybe the A 28 and A50.
> >> > No flash.
> >> >
> >> > I think its still ok to carry on a camera bag that fits under the seat
> >> > or in the over head, is it not.
> >> >
> >> > In 2005, the US custom guy didi not care about my cameras.
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
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> >> > Ontario Canada
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Re: GESO: Photos taken in near total darkness...

[ann sanfedele]

I can see why the bass player liked them - he was the most expressive 
and the stage lighting on him
was better :)

Yes - i've done stuff like that -- it's a bitch - hot pots and a dark 
stage otherwise...
you don't even want to know...

ann

Charles Robinson wrote:

>Did you ever bring a camera with to a show only to find out that  
>there wasn't ANY LIGHTING on the darned stage?
>
>
>
>With that in mind, for some sick reason, I thought I would share the  
>results.  The bass player likes 'em, anyways  (And it's a fun band)
>
>http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2007/NewStandards/index.html
>
>  -Charles
>
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PEOW:Tribute/Farwell to Mom

[Jay Taylor]

PDML'rs,
Definitely a great deal of sadness here with the Taylor family as we  
prepare to bid farewell to my Mom.
She would be 88 years old on April 20th, but we are all but certain  
that she will not be able to celebrate this years birthday. Unable to  
recover from a colonectomy surgery performed in February coupled with  
Aortic Stenosis, her condition has continued to deteriorate over the  
past several weeks.
She had not been eating and drinking enough to sustain herself and  
was back in the hospital within a couple weeks after surgery for  
dehydration. With her fluids stabilized the hospital had informed us  
that they pretty much had done all they could do for her short of  
inserting a feeding tube which she would not want nor allow. The best  
thing that we could do for her is bring her home to be comfortable  
with hospice care.
Fortunately, we had just bought a new house last summer with a  
"Mother-in-Law" unit in the downstairs portion where my mom and  
brother were able to move in with us. So, the three of us have been  
caring for her (my wife works from home) since her discharge about  
six weeks ago.
At first we were hopeful that being back at home would give her the  
motivation and comfort to have better chance of recovery. She had  
been eating a little more and drinking Ensure protein drinks regularly.
But she was still not taking in enough nutrients to sustain herself.  
It seemed that she had just lost all interest in food altogether  
except for maybe chocolates and a few select fruits. At first she was  
walking around OK  even by herself with the help of the walker. But  
the last couple weeks she's gotten progressively worse to the point  
where we could no longer even take her to the bathroom via wheelchair  
because she started passing out  from just sitting on the commode.
These past few days have been very difficult for all of us knowing  
that she does not have much time left here with us. Though we do have  
comfort in knowing that as a true disciple and saint of our Lord  
Jesus and that a very special place in heaven awaits her.
She is truly a very special person. Loved by many who know her and  
even those who've only had a chance to meet. You see, she is a very  
loving and humble human being. I can never remember her saying a  
negative or cruel thing about any single person in her life. She is  
one of the most self-less persons I have ever known. Always willing  
to forsake her needs for those of her children and grandchildren and  
even people she didn't know very well at all. She has taught me so  
much about life by the example that she lived each and every day; the  
most important of which is Love. But if it hadn't been for her taking  
me to church as a young boy and teaching me about Jesus  I don't  
think I'd be here to this day. I could have easily ended up  like  
many of my peers in jails, institutions or dead.
It' really hard at the moment to really reflect on just how much she  
really means to me. I remain hopeful of better days ahead. Here is a  
photo I took of us shortly after her surgery:
http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/63987/1/76532119.31qAeDgY.IMGP0707.jpg
If you are so inclined, please pray that her passing will be  
comforted by the Creator and those who love her.

Thank you,
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Re: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[Christian]

William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christian" 
> JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...
> 
> 
> 
>>> YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT TO LOOK AT PICTURES ON A CRAPPY LITTLE LAPTOP.
>>> Just so you know...
>> Thanks, Bill.  Oh yeah, YOUR INSANE!
>>
> 
> MY INSANE WHAT!
> ONLY AN IGNORAMACE WOULD FORGET AN APOSTROPHE

You must be STUPID to think that I have TIME to use proper punctuation! 
  If you even READ this thread you would know that I have NO TIME for 
anyone that doesn't run 1600x1200 screen resolution, much LESS time to 
use apostrophes!  Instead of ATTACKING me, why don't YOU address the issues!

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Re: GESO: Photos taken in near total darkness...

[Fernando Terrazzino]

Really good, I like them, good job


On 4/2/07, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did you ever bring a camera with to a show only to find out that
> there wasn't ANY LIGHTING on the darned stage?
>
> I just saw a band last weekend where the fastest shutter speed I
> could use (with the DS) was 1/15 of a second, at ISO 1600, with an
> F2.8 lens cranked wide open.
>
> It was so dark that half the time I could not even tell if I had the
> darned frame in focus.  With that in mind, I got some shots that I
> guess you could call "moody" if you wanted to be generous.  I shot
> about 418 frames and these 18 shots are all that I was left with
> after the selection/editing process.
>
> RAW would have made more usable images, but 418 images in RAW mode?
> Not really practical!
>
> With that in mind, for some sick reason, I thought I would share the
> results.  The bass player likes 'em, anyways  (And it's a fun band)
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2007/NewStandards/index.html
>
>   -Charles
>
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Re: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christian" 
JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...



>> 
>> YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT TO LOOK AT PICTURES ON A CRAPPY LITTLE LAPTOP.
>> Just so you know...
> 
> Thanks, Bill.  Oh yeah, YOUR INSANE!
> 

MY INSANE WHAT!
ONLY AN IGNORAMACE WOULD FORGET AN APOSTROPHE

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Re: PESO: Dublin House, New York (repost)

[Rick Womer]

Not at all, Boris!

--- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> Hope you don't mind my honest brutality.
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
> > Posted a few days ago with no feedback at all. 
> Since
> > I sulk when I don't get attention, I'm posting it
> > again:
> > 
> >
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5782865
> > 
> > Taken on a nocturnal stroll in Manhattan's upper
> west
> > side a few weeks ago.
> > 
> > Choose one:
> > 
> > A. So boring that I fell asleep before I could
> comment
> > on it
> > B. So burdened with gross defects that tactful
> comment
> > was impossible
> > C. So ordinary that I just moved on to the next
> PESO
> > D. So ravishing that I was paralyzed and couldn't
> > comment on it
> > E. All of the above
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >
>

> > Get your own web address.  
> > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
> > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
> > 
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Re: PESO - Fairy Bower Falls

[Rick Womer]

Lovely scene, composition, and exposure!

I don't understand why you had to do this as a 30-shot
stitched pano, though; judging from the trees and
grasses, it's not that high a falls.

Also, why is your Photobucket name Sherman?

Rick

P.S. I've read you're having a drought.  Did you
remember to turn the water off at the end of your
shoot?  ;-)


--- J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is a 30 (!) shot panorama (5 rows of 6 shots). 
> Each shot was taken at 
> 55mm focal length and the stitched image was a
> little over 1gb and 
> equivalent to 123 megapixels!  This has been heavily
> resized obviously but 
> I'll be printing this about 60cm by 35cm when I've
> got the money.
> 
> These falls are in Morton National Park in the NSW
> Southern Highlands and 
> last Sunday I had them all to myself.  It's a 1.1 km
> walk one way to the 
> base of the falls and it is very steep...basically
> steps cut into the cliff. 
> The effort was worth it though, what a beautiful
> place it is.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2tp8jh
> 
> Cheers
> 
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OT- Bessa Cameras

[Walter Hamler]

"I find anything much wider than the "90 degrees across the diagonal" view 
of a 20-21 mm lens on 35mm, and 14mm on the Pentax DSLR, isn't particularly 
useful."

I guess that's what makes the world go round, all the differences! ;-)  I am 
a WA sort of guy and much prefer the wider views. Of course, there are 
always exceptions.

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Re: GESO: Photos taken in near total darkness...

[Rick Womer]

Yes.  It was a program in the living room of an old
Philadelphia mansion.  I metered the light beforehand,
and found I could use 1/60th at f/1.7 with P3200 in my
PZ-1p.  Then, the organizer decided to turn the lights
down for a better mood...

The next time, I brought along a subtle (but very
effective) 75W flood on a stand, which allowed me to
use my FA 24-90 instead of the 50/1.7 wide open.

I should post some of those shots as PESOs
someday...but the scanning is a pain!

These are very nice indeed, regardless of the
circumstances!

Rick

--- Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Did you ever bring a camera with to a show only to
> find out that  
> there wasn't ANY LIGHTING on the darned stage?
> 
> I just saw a band last weekend where the fastest
> shutter speed I  
> could use (with the DS) was 1/15 of a second, at ISO
> 1600, with an  
> F2.8 lens cranked wide open.
> 
> It was so dark that half the time I could not even
> tell if I had the  
> darned frame in focus.  With that in mind, I got
> some shots that I  
> guess you could call "moody" if you wanted to be
> generous.  I shot  
> about 418 frames and these 18 shots are all that I
> was left with  
> after the selection/editing process.
> 
> RAW would have made more usable images, but 418
> images in RAW mode?   
> Not really practical!
> 
> With that in mind, for some sick reason, I thought I
> would share the  
> results.  The bass player likes 'em, anyways 
> (And it's a fun band)
> 
>
http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2007/NewStandards/index.html
> 
>   -Charles
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PESO: Crowded shop, NYC

[Rick Womer]

Another from our recent trip to New York City.  This
is a nocturnal shot through the window of a
vitamin-supplement shop in the Upper West Side.  It
amazes me how much merchandise they cram into a small
space in that neighborhood.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5801682

ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, RAW, 1/60 @ f/4.5, cropping
and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4.

If there are no comments I'll start sulking again...

Rick

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Re: PESO: Wild geese

[Christian]

Jan van Wijk wrote:
> Two new images, wild geese in the Oostvaardersplassen refuge
> which is just arround the corner from my home (6 miles)
> 
> Two birds in a perfect formation:
> 
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=218

Nice composition!  It's a pity that the top goose seems a bit soft

> And one landing, just before touch down:
> 
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=220

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Re: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[Christian]

William Robb wrote:
>>
> 
> YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT TO LOOK AT PICTURES ON A CRAPPY LITTLE LAPTOP.
> Just so you know...

Thanks, Bill.  Oh yeah, YOUR INSANE!

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Re: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christian" 

JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...


>
> For a web gallery, yes..  Who gives a shit, John?  I print them at full 
> res, but the web galleries are designed to fit on ANY monitor (hence 800 
> pixels on the longest side).  There were some cool cars in your gallery 
> but my laptop (free from work; don't tell me to upgrade it) has a max 
> resolution of 1024x768.  Honestly, the fact that they are jpegs has 
> degraded the image enough, so again, who gives a shit?
> 

YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT TO LOOK AT PICTURES ON A CRAPPY LITTLE LAPTOP.
Just so you know...

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Re: Enablement: bag and cutter

[Cotty]

On 2/4/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The default insert is one deep padded sleeve. Since the Canon 24-70  
>is pretty bulky and has a big, deep hood, I presume that Cotty has  
>the hood reversed on the lens when in the bag (it wouldn't fit  
>otherwise) and put the insert in the center. Then the camera can be  
>nose down into the insert with one lens on it and the other two  
>lenses in the openings on either side, much as this person sets his up:
>
>   http://phred.org/~alex/pictures/pentax/domke-f803/
>
>The front pockets are very nicely sized and have a good shape, can  
>handle batteries and a ton of other stuff.
>
>If that's not how you've set it up, Cotty, I'd be interested to  
>see... :-)

Nearly. Insert in the middle - almost: offset a smidgen - to the larger
side goes the camera, sideways. Just space above it for the 24-70 hood.
In the padded sleeve sits the 15 mm with the 85mm on top. The the 24-70
sans hood the other side. This lens with the hood reversed is too big. HTH

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Re: Enablement: bag and cutter

[Cotty]

On 2/4/07, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The default insert that comes with this bag, is that sufficient to store all 
>your equipment into the bag? Could you share a photo showing how it is
stored 
>in your bag? The inserts on the website of Domke are just cryptic drawings.

Sure thing - but later this week - out on travels visiting relatives.
Yippee for 3G card in the Powerbook :-)

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Re: WebGallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[Christian]

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> If you see ANY photo at 1500 pixels wide which
> is how I view them usually for full image, going smaller
> like to 800 pixels wide really hurts the details a LOT.
> Apparently you dont care or think it matters, but then why buy a 6/10Mp
> camera and not care whether your photos are reduced in details way down
> to only 1 Mp or less? 

For a web gallery, yes..  Who gives a shit, John?  I print them at full 
res, but the web galleries are designed to fit on ANY monitor (hence 800 
pixels on the longest side).  There were some cool cars in your gallery 
but my laptop (free from work; don't tell me to upgrade it) has a max 
resolution of 1024x768.  Honestly, the fact that they are jpegs has 
degraded the image enough, so again, who gives a shit?

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Re: Web Gallery:Barrett-JacksonCollectorCarAuctions2007WestPalmBeach...

[Christian]

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> OK, Mr. Photo Critic, I already stated these
> were simple documentary photos 

My surprise was the total lack of swimming pools...

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Re: GESO: Photos taken in near total darkness...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 2, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> Did you ever bring a camera with to a show only to find out that
> there wasn't ANY LIGHTING on the darned stage?
>
> I just saw a band last weekend where the fastest shutter speed I
> could use (with the DS) was 1/15 of a second, at ISO 1600, with an
> F2.8 lens cranked wide open.

Yes. And all I had to use at that time was a Panasonic FZ10 ...  
4Mpixel, JPEG only, lotsa noise over ISO 200.  You do what you can...

> RAW would have made more usable images, but 418 images in RAW mode?
> Not really practical!

Piffle. ;-)
That's three-four 1G cards full. Easy. Suck them all into Lightroom  
and adjust away.

> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2007/NewStandards/index.html

I like these a lot. Hard to say from the small web images how they'll  
print, but they look great to my eye. A little more rendering work on  
a couple of them and you're set.

18 out of 420 in these conditions is a good job. ;-)

Godfrey

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Re: OT- Bessa Cameras

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 2, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:

> Well Godders, that is indeed some good info. I knew that the 12~24  
> and the
> 14 are great optics, but neither are in the same league as the 12  
> or 15 on a
> FF 35mm as far as fov is concerned.

For me personally:

I find anything much wider than the "90 degrees across the diagonal"  
view of a 20-21 mm lens on 35mm, and 14mm on the Pentax DSLR, isn't  
particularly useful. More FoV than that is simply too difficult to do  
things that don't look gimmicky to my eye. Even that FoV is quite  
radical: I use the DA21 on Pentax DSLR about 10x as much as I use the  
DA14.

I stopped using the Heliar 15mm in exchange for an Elmarit-M 21mm f/ 
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Re: PESO -- Another Ikea Breakfast

[P. J. Alling]

And I thought I was bored.

Mark Roberts wrote:
> http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Ikea
> ;-)
>
> Get the mp3!
>
>
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Re: PESO -- Another Ikea Breakfast

[Mark Roberts]

http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Ikea
;-)

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OT- Bessa Cameras

[Walter Hamler]

"The Sigma is not a great performer from what I've seen of it. Lots of 
flare unless you keep that big front element properly shaded, and  poor 
resolution/contrast until well stopped down."

Well Godders, that is indeed some good info. I knew that the 12~24 and the 
14 are great optics, but neither are in the same league as the 12 or 15 on a 
FF 35mm as far as fov is concerned.
I will have to ponder the situation some more. I rather doubt that anyone 
will be coming out with a 8mm rectilinear lens for dslr use in the near 
future ;-)

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RE: Peso: Still More Birds

[Jack Davis]

Thanks a lot, Markus.
I was set up, concentrating on geese, when this scene reveled itself
off to the side. (should have been scanning the whole area). All I had
to do was swing the lens around to my right and snap.
Attached to an LX, BTW.

Jack
--- Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I like that one Jack. Nearby we have some trees where these birds
> sleep and
> make lots of noise "talking" -:)
> I made different tries to photograph them but your photo is a lot
> nicer than
> my attempts.
> Greetings
> Markus
> 
>  
> 
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> Davis
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> Subject: Peso: Still More Birds
> 
> This image would have been up during the recent "Hitchcock/Birds"
> banter had I not had an uploading link problem.
> Late, but link now, hopefully, fixed. 
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=220
> 
> Jack
> 
> Shot at local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area. 
> A* 300 f/2.8 w/1.4L t/c on Provia 100F.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> 
>  
>

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PESO -- Another Ikea Breakfast

[P. J. Alling]

Some may remember this PESO from a couple of years ago

http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_ikeabkfst.html

It isn't the only picture I've taken celebrating boredom a cheap 
breakfast and a free cup of coffee, here's another

http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_anotherikeabreakfast.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5.6 [IF]AL

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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GESO: Photos taken in near total darkness...

[Charles Robinson]

Did you ever bring a camera with to a show only to find out that  
there wasn't ANY LIGHTING on the darned stage?

I just saw a band last weekend where the fastest shutter speed I  
could use (with the DS) was 1/15 of a second, at ISO 1600, with an  
F2.8 lens cranked wide open.

It was so dark that half the time I could not even tell if I had the  
darned frame in focus.  With that in mind, I got some shots that I  
guess you could call "moody" if you wanted to be generous.  I shot  
about 418 frames and these 18 shots are all that I was left with  
after the selection/editing process.

RAW would have made more usable images, but 418 images in RAW mode?   
Not really practical!

With that in mind, for some sick reason, I thought I would share the  
results.  The bass player likes 'em, anyways  (And it's a fun band)

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2007/NewStandards/index.html

  -Charles

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Re: PESO - Yearning for Frank

[frank theriault]

On 4/2/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand the controversy here. I see nothing
> negative in Shel's post. It's just a funny picture. I'm sure Frank
> will get a smile out of it, as did I.

Yeah, I did.

But, I got a smile out of Cotty's rant, too...

;-)

-frank (always smiling)

(back into lurk mode)
(and this time I mean it!)

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Re: PESO - Yearning for Frank

[frank theriault]

LOL!!

(back into lurk mode)

-frank


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> Frank has been mostly absent from the PDML for the past few months.  I
> understand that some people miss his presence.
>
> I usually don't get into the spoofs about Frank, nor do I even enjoy the
> repetitive jokes about bunny ears, OOF and blurry pics, however,  when I
> saw this today I couldn't help but grab a QuikSnap.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/yearning.html
>
>
> Shel
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Re: Enablement: bag and cutter

[Cotty]

On 2/4/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>He's engaged the Planet Builders of Magrathea ...

Funny you should say that - I've just caught four mice in our attic.

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RE: PESO: Wild geese

[Markus Maurer]

Very good for such an unusual combination of teleconverters, I'm surprised
:-)
Markus 

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Subject: PESO: Wild geese

Two new images, wild geese in the Oostvaardersplassen refuge
which is just arround the corner from my home (6 miles)

Two birds in a perfect formation:

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=218

And one landing, just before touch down:

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=220

Shot today with the 300 f/2.8 and stacked 1.4L and 1.7 AF converters
Comments welcome!

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Re: PZ-20 rewinding too soon...

[mike wilson]

Toralf Lund wrote:

>>Possibly, as the film has been sitting for some time partially wound, the 
>>effort to wind it exceeded some force limiter, making the camera think it had 
>>come to the end.
> 
> So, you think the film may have "settled" in such a way that winding it 
> was heavier than usual?
> 
>>  Try reloading, putting the cap on the lens and running it right the way 
>> through.
>>  
> 
> Good idea. Maybe I can run from start to finish several times, even. 
> I'll need to find a way to pull back out the start of the film, though. 
> How would you recommend doing that? Perhaps I can get a specialised tool 
> for it...

You might have been able to, a few years a go.  Try looking in antique 
shops.  8-)

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RE: Peso: Still More Birds

[Markus Maurer]

I like that one Jack. Nearby we have some trees where these birds sleep and
make lots of noise "talking" -:)
I made different tries to photograph them but your photo is a lot nicer than
my attempts.
Greetings
Markus

 

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This image would have been up during the recent "Hitchcock/Birds"
banter had I not had an uploading link problem.
Late, but link now, hopefully, fixed. 

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=220

Jack

Shot at local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area. 
A* 300 f/2.8 w/1.4L t/c on Provia 100F.

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Re: Peso: Still More Birds

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Marnie. Like your idea, but was missing some of the finer light
toned upper limbs against the brighter sky, so took it down 'til I got
them back. Also, picked up some subtle cloud detail that I liked.(?)

Jack



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> In a message dated 4/2/2007 10:58:44 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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> This image would have been  up during the recent "Hitchcock/Birds"
> banter had I not had an uploading link  problem.
> Late, but link now, hopefully, fixed.  
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=220
> 
> Jack
> 
> Shot  at local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area. 
> A* 300 f/2.8 w/1.4L t/c on Provia  100F.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> =
> Wow, that is a lot of  birds.
> 
> I like the pic, overall, but somehow I feel the white sky is 
> distracting. Or 
> it is not white enough. I think a stronger and/or different  black
> and white 
> conversion would be appropriate here for maximum  impact.
> 
> Just my .02 cents.
> 
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> 
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Re: PESO - Field

[Rick Womer]

Bruce,

I agree with Jens and Jack.

Rick

--- Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think it needs an anchor of some sort. Just too
> homogeneous with no
> direction for the eye.
> As composed, I feel  the foreground should be in
> focus.
> 
> Jack
> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to decide what I think of this shot.  I
> would appreciate
> > your opinions on it.
> > 
> > Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 110mm, Handheld
> > ISO 280, 1/250 sec @ f/8
> > 
> > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4616.htm
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Re: OT- Bessa Cameras

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Having owned that 15mm and used it with two Leica M bodies in a wide  
variety of films, scanning the film and then comparing it to what I  
get with the K10D and the DA14mm lens ...

Hands down winner on quality: the K10D and 14mm lens. If you want  
wider than that, the Pentax 12-24.

And I thought the Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Aspheric was pretty darn  
good when I had was a Leica film body to put it on..

The Sigma is not a great performer from what I've seen of it. Lots of  
flare unless you keep that big front element properly shaded, and  
poor resolution/contrast until well stopped down.

G

On Apr 2, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:

> The discussion on the Voightlander 125mm Macro led me to the  
> websight where
> I discovered their listings for the Bessa cameras.
> I remember fondling one of the L models when they first came out,  
> and it
> intrigued me, especially with either the 12 or 15mm lens.
> Now that I am shooting digital only, I find a desire for a really  
> superwide
> lens that is not FE distorted, but the options for the Pentax are very
> limited if not non-existant.
> The price of a Bessa L with the 15mm lens would actually be cheaper  
> than a
> Sigma 10~20 zoom, and the image quality would undoubtably be  
> better.  Just
> wondering if any of you have had any thoughts as to this camera/ 
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RE: PESO: Wild geese

[Tom C]

Nice! Especially the first one with them flying in formation.

Tom C.


>From: "Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: PESO: Wild geese
>Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:08:46 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Two new images, wild geese in the Oostvaardersplassen refuge
>which is just arround the corner from my home (6 miles)
>
>Two birds in a perfect formation:
>
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=218
>
>And one landing, just before touch down:
>
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=220
>
>Shot today with the 300 f/2.8 and stacked 1.4L and 1.7 AF converters
>Comments welcome!
>
>Regards, JvW
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Re: PESO - Harriman Reservoir

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Your original was rendered extremely dark, Russell. It's a simple  
landscape scene ... rendered up with a bit bit of balancing between  
water and sky, you get this rather nice, rather serene feel out of  
it. I took the liberty of doing a couple of edits to give you an idea  
where I'd go with it... It includes your original so you can see the  
differences easily.

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/rk2882/

This is a case where if I was using Lightroom I could likely do most  
of what I did with its tools, and presuming I had the RAW file to  
work with, but with just an 8bit image file to work with Photoshop  
allows the kind of gentle, selective editing required to bring this up.

1- Don't underexpose. Determine where the brightest elements are that  
you want to retain detail in and expose correctly for that ...  
Placing exposure properly like that takes a little time to figure out  
and if you're not sure you should bracket exposure around it. The  
histogram shows you an approximation based on values in the JPEG  
preview that is rendered for every file, but if you're capturing in  
RAW you can work with what looks like a little bit of highlight  
overexposures on the histogram. It's not rigorously calibrated, you  
have to work with it to understand what you're seeing.

2- Yes, this is a problem. Your screen looks overly bright compared  
to the ambient light and that's tricking your eye. Better to  
calibrate and profile the screen in modest, normal room light and  
work that way so that your eyes and the screen are at proper  
luminance values. I calibrate my screen for 140 lumens, gamma 1.8 and  
5500K white point in normal, indirect room illumination. Move any  
light that glares on the screen to a different position so that's not  
a problem. This will make a huge difference in how your photos come out.

Godfrey


On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote:

> Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest.  When
> I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an uninteresting
> picture.  Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function on my
> DL.
>
> I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark.  To be
> clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or anything like
> that, right?
>
> I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment  
> further):
>
> 1)  Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, specifically
> on shots like this.  I really like detail in the clouds and am afraid
> of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important aspect of
> the picture.  IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights
> touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?)
> but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably darker
> than just a half-stop.
>
> 2) I usually work in a dark room because I hate glare off the screen.
> I have been running my mac on gamma 1.8 instead of 2.2, but from what
> I am hearing I think that is a negligible part of my problem.
>
> Russ
> (here to learn)
>
> On 4/1/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This is a reservoir/lake near my mother-in-law's house.  Also this is
>> the first photo I have processed with iPhoto.  I was using Lightroom
>> beta, iPhoto definately has less features and some irritating
>> limitations, but it does have the 'touch-up' tool, which is pretty
>> handy.
>>
>> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2882.html
>>
>> Honest comments please, thanks for looking.
>>
>> Russ
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OT- Bessa Cameras

[Walter Hamler]

The discussion on the Voightlander 125mm Macro led me to the websight where 
I discovered their listings for the Bessa cameras.
I remember fondling one of the L models when they first came out, and it 
intrigued me, especially with either the 12 or 15mm lens.
Now that I am shooting digital only, I find a desire for a really superwide 
lens that is not FE distorted, but the options for the Pentax are very 
limited if not non-existant.
The price of a Bessa L with the 15mm lens would actually be cheaper than a 
Sigma 10~20 zoom, and the image quality would undoubtably be better.  Just 
wondering if any of you have had any thoughts as to this camera/lens combo?

Walt 


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Re: OT Planes and cameras

[Kenneth Waller]

> A 16-45 and 50 200 going to be good enough for this Ken. I'm travelling 
> light.

Should be. I last shot there with a 28-80 & 70-210.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Planes and cameras


> Wow. Just had a look on the net. Looks breath taking.
>
> Did a quick Google search and i see they have SUV tours from 8am pick
> up to mid afternoon return. Seems like a good way to go, and not have
> to rent a car, find my way around etc.
>
> A 16-45 and 50 200 going to be good enough for this Ken. I'm travelling 
> light.
>
> Dave
>
> On 4/2/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dave, if you've got half a day, you gotta go to Valley of Fire state 
>> park.
>> About 70 miles north east of Vegas. Otherworldly! Its a small park but 
>> well
>> worth the trip.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: OT Planes and cameras
>>
>>
>> > Heading to Las Vegas Sunday and will be taking a very light bag. Just
>> > the K10D, the 16-45 and 50-200 with maybe the A 28 and A50.
>> > No flash.
>> >
>> > I think its still ok to carry on a camera bag that fits under the seat
>> > or in the over head, is it not.
>> >
>> > In 2005, the US custom guy didi not care about my cameras.
>> >
>> > Dave
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Re: Enablement: bag and cutter

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The default insert is one deep padded sleeve. Since the Canon 24-70  
is pretty bulky and has a big, deep hood, I presume that Cotty has  
the hood reversed on the lens when in the bag (it wouldn't fit  
otherwise) and put the insert in the center. Then the camera can be  
nose down into the insert with one lens on it and the other two  
lenses in the openings on either side, much as this person sets his up:

   http://phred.org/~alex/pictures/pentax/domke-f803/

The front pockets are very nicely sized and have a good shape, can  
handle batteries and a ton of other stuff.

If that's not how you've set it up, Cotty, I'd be interested to  
see... :-)

Personally, I feel the F803 is a little unbalanced when set up this  
way and I find it awkward to get the camera out. Plus, set up this  
way there's no room for all the other junk I need to carry.

Godfrey

On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Frits Wüthrich wrote:

> The default insert that comes with this bag, is that sufficient to  
> store all
> your equipment into the bag? Could you share a photo showing how it  
> is stored
> in your bag? The inserts on the website of Domke are just cryptic  
> drawings.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Frits
>
> On Monday 02 April 2007 16:28, Cotty wrote:
>> I've been working out of my F-803 today, shooting my wife's father  
>> (with
>> dementia). We're on a short trip to Manchester (UK) and I managed to
>> cram in it:
>>
>> EOS 1DmII
>> EF 24-70 2.8 + hood
>> K15 3.5
>> A* 85 1.4 + hood
>> spare cam batt
>> cam neck strap
>> *and* my son's Playstation portable which he dumped on me at the last
>> minute.


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Re: April PUG is open

[Harald Rust]

Thanks Adelheid for all the effort in putting the
April PUG together and to all the contributers. 
Also the kind comments about the salmon photo that I
submitted to the April Pug are much appreciated.
I did spend almost an hour crouching in the rain,
waiting and hoping for the right moment when a salmon
would make a good splash. Then some folks stopped
their pickup truck there, which seemed to make an
appropriate backdrop as a juxtapositon. The MZ-S did
fine in the pouring rain. 
Harald
Adelheid wrote:
The April PUG is open, it can be viewed at
http://pug.komkon.org
Have Fun - I like the salmon shot. :-)
Best
Adelheid
Dave wrote: 
Harald Rust's "Why Did the Salmon Cross the Road?" is
a close second.
Cheers,
Dave
Dan M wrote: 
Several interesting submissions, but I think that "Why
Did the Salmon Cross the Road?,"
by Harald Rust is not only a great photograph, but
also best fits the theme of the month.
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Re: PESO - Harriman Reservoir

[P. J. Alling]

The image is much brighter, but the image still looks a bit flat, with 
artifacts in the water that I associate with over much exposure 
compensation in Photoshop.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Hi - I forgot to send this along.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/IMGP2882a.jpg  
>
> How does that look to you?
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>   
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Russell Kerstetter 
>> 
>
>   
>> Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest.  When
>> I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an uninteresting
>> picture.  Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function on my
>> DL.
>>
>> I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark.  To be
>> clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or anything like
>> that, right?
>>
>> I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment further):
>>
>> 1)  Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, specifically
>> on shots like this.  I really like detail in the clouds and am afraid
>> of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important aspect of
>> the picture.  IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights
>> touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?)
>> but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably darker
>> than just a half-stop.
>> 
>
>
>
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Re: Enablement: bag and cutter

[Frits Wüthrich]

The default insert that comes with this bag, is that sufficient to store all 
your equipment into the bag? Could you share a photo showing how it is stored 
in your bag? The inserts on the website of Domke are just cryptic drawings.

Thanks in advance.
Frits

On Monday 02 April 2007 16:28, Cotty wrote:
> I've been working out of my F-803 today, shooting my wife's father (with
> dementia). We're on a short trip to Manchester (UK) and I managed to
> cram in it:
>
> EOS 1DmII
> EF 24-70 2.8 + hood
> K15 3.5
> A* 85 1.4 + hood
> spare cam batt
> cam neck strap
> *and* my son's Playstation portable which he dumped on me at the last
> minute.
>
> For the size, it's a remarkable bag. I have black canvas, what colour
> did you get?
>
>
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Re: PESO - Harriman Reservoir

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi - I forgot to send this along.

http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/IMGP2882a.jpg  

How does that look to you?

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Russell Kerstetter 

> Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest.  When
> I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an uninteresting
> picture.  Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function on my
> DL.
>
> I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark.  To be
> clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or anything like
> that, right?
>
> I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment further):
>
> 1)  Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, specifically
> on shots like this.  I really like detail in the clouds and am afraid
> of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important aspect of
> the picture.  IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights
> touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?)
> but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably darker
> than just a half-stop.



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Re: PESO: Woman in Ginza District

[Joseph Tainter]

Re:
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/5659/display/8466041

-

Fascinating indeed. Joe, may I suggest that if the woman was in focus
you could have obtained different and in my eyes better picture.

Boris

-

Good one. Well composed. Nice use of the light.
Paul

-

Thanks for the comments.

Boris, part of the reason why the woman is soft is that the shutter 
speed was 1/30 and she was moving. I like the focus point on the 
lantern, with her as a secondary subject.

Joe

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Re: PESO:HDR Federal

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/2/2007 9:25:54 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Apr 2, 2007, at 8:13 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> ... What's HDR?

"High Dynamic Range"  ... a technique where layering several identical  
exposures made at  different EV settings can be used to increase the  
effective dynamic  range able to be captured.

Godfrey

===
Aha, thanks,  Godfrey.

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Re: Enablement: bag and cutter

[P. J. Alling]

I guess that would imply that Cotty can get out ahead and follow.

graywolf wrote:
> And, just to prove all this, Cotty's answer arrived before you post.
>
> Now, where did I park Gay Deceiver?
>
> --graywolf
>
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> Ah,  Non-Euclidean geometry.  I always suspected Cotty had somehow 
>> tapped into a different universe.
>>
>> David Savage wrote:
>> 
>>> Cotty tinkered with it in his shed and gave it a TARDIS upgrade.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 4/2/07, Nick Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 I'd love to see how you managed to get all that into that bag! Don't
 get me wrong. I love my 803, but mine doesn't hold that much. ;D

 On 4/2/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 
> On 2/4/07, Mike Hamilton, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>   
>> Well, they have yet to arrive, but I've made two enabling purchases
>> lately: a Domke F-803 bag for carrying around the city, and a Logan
>> 301 Compact mat cutter.  The bag is thanks to PDML, and the mat cutter
>> is thanks to the workshop that I attended on Saturday, learning how to
>> properly mat photos.  Shall be quite worthwhile, methinks.
>> 
>> 
> I've been working out of my F-803 today, shooting my wife's father (with
> dementia). We're on a short trip to Manchester (UK) and I managed to
> cram in it:
>
> EOS 1DmII
> EF 24-70 2.8 + hood
> K15 3.5
> A* 85 1.4 + hood
> spare cam batt
> cam neck strap
> *and* my son's Playstation portable which he dumped on me at the last 
> minute.
>
> For the size, it's a remarkable bag. I have black canvas, what colour
> did you get?
>
>
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Re: Samsung vs Pentax firmwares 1.11

[Thibouille]

Sure.. that's what I won't do it myself ;)
Still, if there are many differences it would corroborate reports
about GX10 not having the same default settings e.g. for JPEG output.

2007/4/2, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> That sounds to me as if it could be extraordinarily expensive.
>
> Thibouille wrote:
> > Samsung has 1.11 firmware out now.
> >
> > If someone wants to play crossflashing firmware or try to find differences 
> > ...
> >
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RE: GOSE: My first soccer game

[Jens Bladt]

Thanks, Marnie.
I do agree with you - about which images are best and about using
shadow/highlight (Actually I have already done this - but very slightly).
I got some nice feed back from the football club - they will give me a free
ticket again Monday week :-)
Regards
Jens

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My home town is going to build  a new football stadium.
So, the planning department (that's where I work)  wants photographs from
the
old one - for a public meeting on the  subject.
I haven't photographed a real soccer game since the early 1980'ies -  before
Auto Focus was common.
I was surprised how difficult it was  :-)
Hopefully I'll do a little better next  time...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157600041128273/show/

Regards
Jens  Bladt

===
They are still pretty darn good. I'd use  highlight/shadows on about the
first three, to lighten the shadows on the  players. Five and six are the
best,
IMHO (think I got the numbers right, hard  when it is a slide show).

The guy on the ground and his expression and  the other guy being scrunched
by two players. Ouch, and ouch. Good shots,  both.

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Re: PESO - Harriman Reservoir

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi,

I like nice blue skies with clouds too.  However, you needn't underexpose
to get them.  Adjustments can be made when processing the pics that will
give you what you want.  I don't know how Lightroom or iPhoto work,
although I imagen that they probably provide some of the same or similar
features as Photoshop.  Are you shooting RAW?  That, in and of itself,
opens lots of possibilities.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Russell Kerstetter 

> Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest.  When
> I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an uninteresting
> picture.  Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function on my
> DL.
>
> I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark.  To be
> clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or anything like
> that, right?
>
> I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment further):
>
> 1)  Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, specifically
> on shots like this.  I really like detail in the clouds and am afraid
> of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important aspect of
> the picture.  IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights
> touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?)
> but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably darker
> than just a half-stop.



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Re: Peso: Still More Birds

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/2/2007 10:58:44 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This image would have been  up during the recent "Hitchcock/Birds"
banter had I not had an uploading link  problem.
Late, but link now, hopefully, fixed.  

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=220

Jack

Shot  at local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area. 
A* 300 f/2.8 w/1.4L t/c on Provia  100F.

Comments welcome.

=
Wow, that is a lot of  birds.

I like the pic, overall, but somehow I feel the white sky is  distracting. Or 
it is not white enough. I think a stronger and/or different  black and white 
conversion would be appropriate here for maximum  impact.

Just my .02 cents.

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Re: JunkEmail: RE: JunkEmail: RE: PESO:Waterchurch - K10D + A24mm in low light

[P. J. Alling]

Hum, I just thought it was editorial comment on the PDML.

Jan van Wijk wrote:
> Hi Markus,
>
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:24:37 +0200, Markus Maurer wrote:
>
>   
>> BTW, why does your email program add "JunkEmail:" to your response, that
>> does not sound very inviting ;-)
>> 
>
> Well, actually it is a mail-filter adding it to the INCOMING mail,
> suggesting it MAY be spam, based on several criteria.
>
> However, it would be nice if it automatically removed
> it when replying (I often forget to do that myself :-)
>
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Re: PESO - Harriman Reservoir

[Russell Kerstetter]

Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest.  When
I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an uninteresting
picture.  Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function on my
DL.

I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark.  To be
clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or anything like
that, right?

I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment further):

1)  Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, specifically
on shots like this.  I really like detail in the clouds and am afraid
of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important aspect of
the picture.  IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights
touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?)
but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably darker
than just a half-stop.

2) I usually work in a dark room because I hate glare off the screen.
I have been running my mac on gamma 1.8 instead of 2.2, but from what
I am hearing I think that is a negligible part of my problem.

Russ
(here to learn)

On 4/1/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a reservoir/lake near my mother-in-law's house.  Also this is
> the first photo I have processed with iPhoto.  I was using Lightroom
> beta, iPhoto definately has less features and some irritating
> limitations, but it does have the 'touch-up' tool, which is pretty
> handy.
>
> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2882.html
>
> Honest comments please, thanks for looking.
>
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Re: PESO: Wild geese

[P. J. Alling]

Jan van Wijk wrote:
That's nicely done.

> Two new images, wild geese in the Oostvaardersplassen refuge
> which is just arround the corner from my home (6 miles)
>
> Two birds in a perfect formation:
>
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=218
>
> And one landing, just before touch down:
>
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=220
>
> Shot today with the 300 f/2.8 and stacked 1.4L and 1.7 AF converters
> Comments welcome!
>
> Regards, JvW
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Re: Wild geese

[Kenneth Waller]

Both, very nice.

Any crop ?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jan van Wijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO: Wild geese


> Two new images, wild geese in the Oostvaardersplassen refuge
> which is just arround the corner from my home (6 miles)
> 
> Two birds in a perfect formation:
> 
> http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=218
> 
> And one landing, just before touch down:
> 
> http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=220
> 
> Shot today with the 300 f/2.8 and stacked 1.4L and 1.7 AF converters
> Comments welcome!
> 
> Regards, JvW
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Re: OT Planes and cameras

[David J Brooks]

Wow. Just had a look on the net. Looks breath taking.

Did a quick Google search and i see they have SUV tours from 8am pick
up to mid afternoon return. Seems like a good way to go, and not have
to rent a car, find my way around etc.

A 16-45 and 50 200 going to be good enough for this Ken. I'm travelling light.

Dave

On 4/2/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave, if you've got half a day, you gotta go to Valley of Fire state park.
> About 70 miles north east of Vegas. Otherworldly! Its a small park but well
> worth the trip.
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: OT Planes and cameras
>
>
> > Heading to Las Vegas Sunday and will be taking a very light bag. Just
> > the K10D, the 16-45 and 50-200 with maybe the A 28 and A50.
> > No flash.
> >
> > I think its still ok to carry on a camera bag that fits under the seat
> > or in the over head, is it not.
> >
> > In 2005, the US custom guy didi not care about my cameras.
> >
> > Dave
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Re: JunkEmail: RE: JunkEmail: RE: PESO:Waterchurch - K10D + A24mm in low light

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi Markus,

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:24:37 +0200, Markus Maurer wrote:

>BTW, why does your email program add "JunkEmail:" to your response, that
>does not sound very inviting ;-)

Well, actually it is a mail-filter adding it to the INCOMING mail,
suggesting it MAY be spam, based on several criteria.

However, it would be nice if it automatically removed
it when replying (I often forget to do that myself :-)

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Re: PESO - Fairy Bower Falls

[Fernando Terrazzino]

Hi James,

Very nice. What software did you use for the stiching process?

On 4/1/07, J and K Messervy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a 30 (!) shot panorama (5 rows of 6 shots).  Each shot was taken at
> 55mm focal length and the stitched image was a little over 1gb and
> equivalent to 123 megapixels!  This has been heavily resized obviously but
> I'll be printing this about 60cm by 35cm when I've got the money.
>
> These falls are in Morton National Park in the NSW Southern Highlands and
> last Sunday I had them all to myself.  It's a 1.1 km walk one way to the
> base of the falls and it is very steep...basically steps cut into the cliff.
> The effort was worth it though, what a beautiful place it is.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2tp8jh
>
> Cheers
>
> James
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Re: PESO: Wild geese

[Jack Davis]

"Formation" shot especially nice. Too bad wings weren't completely
"set", but it's one to be proud of as is.

Jack
--- Jan van Wijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Two new images, wild geese in the Oostvaardersplassen refuge
> which is just arround the corner from my home (6 miles)
> 
> Two birds in a perfect formation:
> 
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=218
> 
> And one landing, just before touch down:
> 
>   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=220
> 
> Shot today with the 300 f/2.8 and stacked 1.4L and 1.7 AF converters
> Comments welcome!
> 
> Regards, JvW
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RE: Peso: Still More Birds

[Jack Davis]

Pentax Gallery reject.

Thanks!

Jack
--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Very nice!  I wouldn't change a thing.
> 
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >Subject: Peso: Still More Birds
> >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >This image would have been up during the recent "Hitchcock/Birds"
> >banter had I not had an uploading link problem.
> >Late, but link now, hopefully, fixed.
> >
> >http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=220
> >
> >Jack
> >
> >Shot at local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
> >A* 300 f/2.8 w/1.4L t/c on Provia 100F.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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Re: Enablement: bag and cutter

[graywolf]

And, just to prove all this, Cotty's answer arrived before you post.

Now, where did I park Gay Deceiver?

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P. J. Alling wrote:
> Ah,  Non-Euclidean geometry.  I always suspected Cotty had somehow 
> tapped into a different universe.
> 
> David Savage wrote:
>> Cotty tinkered with it in his shed and gave it a TARDIS upgrade.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 4/2/07, Nick Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
>>> I'd love to see how you managed to get all that into that bag! Don't
>>> get me wrong. I love my 803, but mine doesn't hold that much. ;D
>>>
>>> On 4/2/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
 On 2/4/07, Mike Hamilton, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
> Well, they have yet to arrive, but I've made two enabling purchases
> lately: a Domke F-803 bag for carrying around the city, and a Logan
> 301 Compact mat cutter.  The bag is thanks to PDML, and the mat cutter
> is thanks to the workshop that I attended on Saturday, learning how to
> properly mat photos.  Shall be quite worthwhile, methinks.
> 
 I've been working out of my F-803 today, shooting my wife's father (with
 dementia). We're on a short trip to Manchester (UK) and I managed to
 cram in it:

 EOS 1DmII
 EF 24-70 2.8 + hood
 K15 3.5
 A* 85 1.4 + hood
 spare cam batt
 cam neck strap
 *and* my son's Playstation portable which he dumped on me at the last 
 minute.

 For the size, it's a remarkable bag. I have black canvas, what colour
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PESO: Wild geese

[Jan van Wijk]

Two new images, wild geese in the Oostvaardersplassen refuge
which is just arround the corner from my home (6 miles)

Two birds in a perfect formation:

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=218

And one landing, just before touch down:

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=220

Shot today with the 300 f/2.8 and stacked 1.4L and 1.7 AF converters
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Re: PESO: Ooooops!!!

[Bob Sullivan]

We lost a fireman last week in a similar truck-tip-over.
4 firefighters were returning from a call when an empty school bus hit them.
It spun them about and they ended up on their side.
Sad day for his family...
Regards,  Bob S.

On 4/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a message dated 3/31/2007 3:40:10 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> That's what happens when the  fire brigade tries to be faster than the
> laws of physics  allow:
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8452280
>
> Freehand  shot across the river Meuse with a Tokina 500 mm mirror lens.
>
> Ralf
>
>
> =
> Good shot, but I think maybe that is not  why you are showing it.
>
> Egad. I mean, egad.
>
> It would be funny if  it wasn't sort of pitiful. Actually, it is sort of
> funny. Although I hope no one  burned down because they didn't make it.
>
> Marnie aka Doe :-)
>
>
>
>
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Re: PESO - Field

[Shel Belinkoff]

  This was supposed to be about your bird pic, not the field pic,
which I've net yet looked at.  I think the posting error is all Marnie's
fault.  Bad Girl! Marnie 

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi Bruce,
>
> I like this photo quite a bit.  Somehow it seems a step or two removed
from
> the more typical bird closeup - putting the little winged creature into a
> larger context than just a closeup on a branch seems to get me more
> "involved" with the scene, somewhat akin to having been there as opposed
to
> just looking at a pic that should be in a book about bird identification. 
> The second (tighter cropped) version works best for me.
>
> Shel
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Many thanks to those of you  who took the time to comment.  
> > This shot evoked some mixed  feelings.  I have taken Ken's 
> > suggestion and tried  a crop:
> > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4616a.htm
> >
> > Original:
> > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4616.htm
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RE: Peso: Still More Birds

[Tom C]

Very nice!  I wouldn't change a thing.



Tom C.




>From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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>Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>This image would have been up during the recent "Hitchcock/Birds"
>banter had I not had an uploading link problem.
>Late, but link now, hopefully, fixed.
>
>http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=220
>
>Jack
>
>Shot at local Gray Lodge Wildlife Area.
>A* 300 f/2.8 w/1.4L t/c on Provia 100F.
>
>Comments welcome.
>
>
>
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RE: PESO - Fairy Bower Falls

[Tom C]

Hi James.

A beautiful image and composition.  The small image comes across as very 
granular at this size on my monitor.

It doesn't strike me as the kind of shot one would normally shoot as 
multiple frames and stitch, but it's an intriguing idea.

Tom C.




>From: "J and K Messervy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Subject: PESO - Fairy Bower Falls
>Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 20:24:13 +1000
>
>This is a 30 (!) shot panorama (5 rows of 6 shots).  Each shot was taken at
>55mm focal length and the stitched image was a little over 1gb and
>equivalent to 123 megapixels!  This has been heavily resized obviously but
>I'll be printing this about 60cm by 35cm when I've got the money.
>
>These falls are in Morton National Park in the NSW Southern Highlands and
>last Sunday I had them all to myself.  It's a 1.1 km walk one way to the
>base of the falls and it is very steep...basically steps cut into the 
>cliff.
>The effort was worth it though, what a beautiful place it is.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2tp8jh
>
>Cheers
>
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>
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Peso: Still More Birds

[Jack Davis]

This image would have been up during the recent "Hitchcock/Birds"
banter had I not had an uploading link problem.
Late, but link now, hopefully, fixed. 

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=220

Jack

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