Re: AP Top News Photos

[Cotty]

On 01/11/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>They're not going to put baskets of kittens on the news are they?

You've not watched local ITV news !!

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Re: GESO: First try with Lightroom web export

[David J Brooks]

All great Doug.

This one i really like, the angle and the sun gleam,

http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.6.66

The tobacco shed is another i like.
Dave

On 11/1/07, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> > Doug Brewer and I went down to Grandfather Mountain last weekend to
> > shoot some fall color. Here's a Lightroom-generated gallery with a few
> > shots:
> > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm3/
>
> And here's a few from the trip with Mark, combined with those from a
> trip earlier in the month with my family:
>
> http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.6.72
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Thibouille]

Maybe let's imagine the following situation:
You have lots of pics to take and you can't take the time to change
cards otherwise you might lose a couple important shots.

I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi seems slow
unfortunately) so all pics would be uploaded into my laptop in my
backpack (which is closed but not in standby mode). It'd give me well
the size of the harddisk for storage.

It could be useful in some cases.

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Re: K10D replacement battery link

[David J Brooks]

Opps, just had a look at th eone i bought, and its  1500mAh.

Thats probably why its closer to the Pentax output then.

Dave

On 11/2/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, thats true, but i only get about 100 extra shots from the pentax
> battery(i chimp every shot), so spending $14 ea on 1 or 2 extra
> batterys rather than $90 for the pentax one seemd resaonable.
>
> :-)
>
> Dave
>
> On 11/1/07, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.interbatteries.ca/index.php/cPath/388_401
> >
> > I have bought from these people before. Its a Canadian site, but
> > batteries are shipped from California.
> >
> > The K10D is on sale, $14 Canadian.
> >
> > I have one and seems to be ok.
> >
> > -
> >
> > This one is 1300mAh, which is low. The Pentax original is 1620. I
> > believe this will mean fewer shots per charge.
> >
> >
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Re: French President captured by Pentax

[David Savage]

On 11/2/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Next you'll be telling me that wrestling is fake, and there is no jello tree.

It's more of a shrub, rather than a tree...

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: the day after

[David J Brooks]

A fitting tribute.

Dave

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> Their work is done, they've had their night of glory, and they're waiting
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Re: WI-FI: Longish and OT..some

[David J Brooks]

When we were in Vegas April. there was a group of young ladies with
the Margaritaville parrots taking posed pictures of the tourist and
the birds. I'll admit we wanted to do it, and did.

After each shoot, she just handed the card to the assistant and viewd
them via MS's picture it or what ever its called software. Prints were
handled via the MS software aswell, no adjusyments.

Three 5x7's in those gold leaf frames was $20.00 US. I thought that
was a great deal. Not sure how much money was made, but they were out
there at least from 9am to 6pm for three days.

Thats a lot of standing, dealing with customers and the heat and warm beer.
Glad i don't do on site any more, i hate warm beer,

LOL



Dave

On 11/1/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guess I wasn't thinking about the D50, but if a camera properly suited
> for such a connection were to be used in the proximity of a laptop?
> Those shots made on the train probably didn't leave much PS time prior
> to its return. At that, emailing the image files of a size sufficient
> to print a quality 6x8 MAY have been problematic.
> The train stopped for several minutes at the end of the trip away from
> the station (engine was re-attached to the rear of the train to pull us
> home) and my guess is, the photog was met by a fast car and jetted back
> to deliver the memory card(s) to the PS person.
> Was interesting to speculate about the logistics.
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Wifi wouldn't help in this case due to distance, it's far too long a
> > distance between train and station. Also the only WiFi option for the
> >
> > D50 is this new SD card we've been discussing. The wifi adaptors
> > previously have only been available on pro and semi-pro bodies.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> >
> > Jack Davis wrote:
> > > This reminds me of an event last weekend wherein my wife and I
> > along
> > > with our daughter and son in law. did the Napa Valley Wine Train.
> > It
> > > was a Sunday and its being fresh cool fall foliage period, the
> > train
> > > was full..according to out "car host".
> > > As the groups were called and approached the train for boarding,
> > each
> > > of the party groups were asked for a no obligation pose while a gal
> > > toting a Nikon D50 astutely position the the group members and took
> > a
> > > couple of shots.
> > > During the train ride, the same person stopped at each table and
> > asked
> > > if we would mind having our pictures taken. Both we couples
> > complied.
> > > When we returned to the starting point and de-trained, most headed
> > for
> > > the station for restroom, wine and &/or photos.
> > > They had a wall of racks chocked full of groups of shots with back
> > up
> > > copies.
> > > The exposure problems apparent in the cars was deftly handled and I
> > > noticed surrounding riders were softened and darkened some.
> > > Behind a counter in a sweating blur was the photographer and her
> > > Photoshop assistant (as I learned) pulling 6x8 prints, placing them
> > in
> > > appropriate hard gold leaf trimmed folders, taking credit
> > cards..etc.
> > > I was drained imagining what such a three and a half hour period
> > would
> > > take out of me.
> > > I obviously don't know how many they sold ($21.50 per print), but
> > they
> > > had my respect and money.
> > > Could WI-FI have been of some help? They may have been so equipped.
> > >
> > > Jack
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> > >
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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[David J Brooks]

Well done Sir.

I remember that shot from before. I still love it.

Dave

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> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
> >> http://www.sigmaphoto.com/contest/winners_summerdreams.asp
> >>
> >Congrats. Unfortunately, you'll probably be gifted with a Sigma lens
> >or something like that.
> >   ]'-)
>
> Har!
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> I'll suffer through every moment of using my 180mm f/3.5 macro when it
> arrives!
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> Gonna have to try some Mark Cassino-style insect shots next summer...
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Re: K10D replacement battery link

[David J Brooks]

Yes, thats true, but i only get about 100 extra shots from the pentax
battery(i chimp every shot), so spending $14 ea on 1 or 2 extra
batterys rather than $90 for the pentax one seemd resaonable.

:-)

Dave

On 11/1/07, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.interbatteries.ca/index.php/cPath/388_401
>
> I have bought from these people before. Its a Canadian site, but
> batteries are shipped from California.
>
> The K10D is on sale, $14 Canadian.
>
> I have one and seems to be ok.
>
> -
>
> This one is 1300mAh, which is low. The Pentax original is 1620. I
> believe this will mean fewer shots per charge.
>
>
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Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

[Christian]

The fires in California got me thinking about my image storage and 
backup requirements.  I thought, what if I had to leave my house and 
only had a few minutes to get the family to safety?  All my kids' and 
family pictures are stored digitally and I worry about losing them to 
natural disaster or some other tragedy including computer crashes.  So 
here is my latest scheme:

All my images (I only have 95GB stored currently) are on one 320GB SATA 
drive on my Windows XP Pro box for editing in PSCS3.  The windows system 
has 1 other 320GB SATA drive for storage, a 160GB IDE drive for OS and 
programs and a 60GB SATA drive for PS scratch.  At ~4am every day I have 
an rsync cron job kick off on my Linux system that syncs files from the 
Windows box to my Linux box where I have 2x 320GB SATA drives in a RAID 
1 set.  The Windows filesystem is mounted via CIFS on the Linux box.

Once a week or more I manually run an rsync command to sync the files 
from the Linux box to an external USB drive.  If I have to leave the 
house in a hurry I can just grab the external enclosure which is in the 
office next to the front door.

A friend added to the paranoia the other day and suggested running 
another rsync job to another Linux box at my parents' house for even 
more redundancy.  Not a bad idea...  The initial sync would take hours 
over the internet but changes and additions would go relatively quickly.

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Re: PESO: Abandoned - Take 2

[Leon Altoff]

Hi Brian,

I prefer the original.  I have sen light that would look exactly like 
that - I would like to see more light like that when I have time to take 
pictures, but that is another thing!

I asked my wife which one she preferred and she said the one that hasn't 
been photoshopped.  When I asked her which one that was she said the 
second one.  After a bit more discussion she said the sky was wrong in 
the second one - you get that colour of sky near the sun not in nearly 
the opposite direction.

After loading them onto her computer (LCD Samsung screen, I have a CRT 
Phillips) she prefers the original - no neither screen has been fully 
colur managed.  She did also complain that the second image is very 
slightly differently croped and that was distracting for comparison 
purposes.

End result, unless you plan on selling the image - and quite possibly 
even if you are - do what you are happy with.

  Leon

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Brian Walters wrote:
> Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions on this image.
> 
> Most comments thought that the colours in the image were over-saturated.  The 
> colours *are* strong, but that's due to the rusty tones and the very warm, 
> late afternoon light.  I'm not adverse to nudging the saturation from time to 
> time but this image didn't receive any extra.  Of course the image might 
> benefit from a slightly less saturated rendering so the link below has a 
> version with a 10% reduction (and I took a bit of blue out of the sky as 
> well).  I have to say I still prefer the original which is more like I 
> remember the scene, and which is also shown for comparison:
> 
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/Abandoned/index.html
> 
> Also on this page is a black and white rendering - something suggested by 
> Dave Brooks.  It seems to have possibilities but I haven't nailed it yet and 
> I'm not sure exactly where to go with it.
> 
> The distracting background was also mentioned.  It was difficult to get the 
> right angle with this image.  There was a road sign and an old shack that I 
> was trying to conceal. There was also a large, hyperactive hound behind a not 
> very substantial fence about 50 metres away so, bugger the background, I was 
> a bit distracted as well...  :-)>
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: shutter count

[P. J. Alling]

The way sd cards work it really makes no difference.  Both just re-write 
the directory structure.  The data will still remain.  The read/write 
memory of the cards has a finite number of writes.  In fact erasing the 
files might even be better since the whole directory structure doesn't 
have to be rewritten.

Peter Fairweather wrote:
> John
>
> Thanks to advice received here I've cracked the numbering problem.
>
>  I do wonder whether formatting the card each time is better than deleting 
> all.
>
> Perhaps someone can enlighten os?
>
> Peter
>
> On 01/11/2007, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> From: "Peter Fairweather"
>>
>> 
>>> I'm sure this is just stupidity on my part but I'm fairly new to the
>>> K10D as well.
>>>
>>> I bought my camera nearly new a month ago. Every time I download the
>>> pictures via the card reader, I delete all the images on the card when
>>> it is back in the camera. Unfortunately the numbering system reverts
>>> to 0001 each time, which means you had better download to a new
>>> directory each time, (which I would do normally anyway) if you don't
>>> want to overwrite previous images.
>>>   
>> This is just a SWAG, because I have never seen what you're describing.
>>
>> Maybe if you are choosing to "delete" all of the images, the algorithm
>> for numbering images in the camera allows the numbers for the deleted
>> images to be reused.
>>
>> When I transfer my images to the computer, I put card back into the
>> camera and use format to get rid of the old images, rather than deleting
>> them.
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Re: OT: Storing/Backing Up Images

[P. J. Alling]

DVDs are structurally sounder than CDs.  Based on that I'd say the 
opposite is true.

John Graves wrote:
> I just wrote my 2007 Picture folder to a DVD.  It took about 3.5 Gb and 
> there is space left.   H. Not enough pictures.
>
> I remember reading somewhere that CD's will outlive DVD's .  Is this 
> still true?  Does anyone have any idea about the guesstimated lifetime 
> for a CD vs a DVD?
>
> TIA,
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Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

[Cotty]

On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>On a happy note:  I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace 
>my dead Smegma 500.   m shiny, new flash.

Ooooh. I've had mine for a while now - still haven't figured it out. I
hate flash. I stick the camera on manual, 1/250th and f8 and the flash
is spot-on every time, direct or bounced. You'll really want one of
these next :-)



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Re: letter to Pentax coustomers

[P. J. Alling]

Obviously there's no romance in your soul.

John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "P. J. Alling"
>
>   
>> Not surprising but still saddening. 
>> 
>
> I don't understand why it's saddening that Hoya plans to "continue to 
> devote our efforts to make even more outstanding the PENTAX brand even 
> after the merger."
>
> Two of the areas they're focusing on are optics and imaging systems. 
> Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think optics & imaging systems includes 
> cameras and lenses.
>
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[P. J. Alling]

What you need and what's fun are two different things...

Tom C wrote:
> I only need to be called a dumb *** once Bob, OK? :-)
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>   
>> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
>> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:02:55 -0700
>>
>> The WIFI is built into the card. Tnat's why (according to the article) the
>> CAMERA with eye-fi card has to be near a WIFI access point!
>>
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>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> ACTUALLY... after reading Thib's last post and link regarding eye-fi, I
>>> have
>>> to say that I can see Brendans's point.  I had foolishly thought they 
>>>   
>> had
>> 
>>> the wifi built into the SD card itself (silly me, that was a stupid
>>> assumtion if I ever made one, embarrassing actually).
>>>
>>> If one has to stop shooting and take the card out of the camera, and put
>>> it
>>> in a reader, then I don't find it nearly as attractive. Yes I can see 
>>>   
>> that
>> 
>>> it only takes 10 seconds to put the card in a reader and put a new one 
>>>   
>> in
>> 
>>> the camera.
>>>
>>> Here I thought it allowed transfer simultaneously from within the camera
>>> while continuing to shoot. Still useful but not near as whiz-bang as I
>>> thought.
>>>
>>> What would be nice is the *option* to shoot non-stop and have the camera
>>> (if
>>> you have this much trust in technology) delete images as they are
>>> sucessfully transferred so that one has a 'never full' memory card. That
>>> would require the camera to be smart enough to receive a returned
>>> sucessful/fail status from the network or receiving PC.
>>>   
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[Adam Maas]

Doug Franklin wrote:
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
>>> Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me.  I'm 
>>> not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has 
>>> write privileges to /any/ part of my system.  Not even with WEP.
>> If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC 
>> address access?
> 
> Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you 
> want to the network, so that's no real protection.
> 

Yes, but you need to KNOW an allowed MAC, which is non-trivial to find.

-Adam


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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[John Graves]

Getting the MAC address is a trivial exercise.  I can think of several 
ways with a laptop and a IP analyzer, and it would take only a minute or 
two. 

John Graves
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Adam Maas wrote:
> Doug Franklin wrote:
>   
>> mike wilson wrote:
>>
>> 
 Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me.  I'm 
 not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has 
 write privileges to /any/ part of my system.  Not even with WEP.
 
>>> If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC 
>>> address access?
>>>   
>> Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you 
>> want to the network, so that's no real protection.
>>
>> 
>
> Yes, but you need to KNOW an allowed MAC, which is non-trivial to find.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>   

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Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

[Christian]

Cotty wrote:

> Dude - you want to move from there, sounds like a dangerous place to live.
> 

Wild, wild, Freaking, West...  Even my Kid's hamster is armed

On a happy note:  I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace 
my dead Smegma 500.   m shiny, new flash.

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Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

[Christian]

Christian wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
> 
>> Dude - you want to move from there, sounds like a dangerous place to 
>> live.
>>
> 
> Wild, wild, Freaking, West...  Even my Kid's hamster is armed
> 
> On a happy note:  I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace 
> my dead Smegma 500.   m shiny, new flash.
> 

Ok then sorry for the Canon pr0n...  That was meant to be off-list. 
  Must... not...  turn...  red...

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Replacement hoods in Europe ??

[Thibouille]

I'd like to find a source for hoods in Europe.
I know BH etc do have some but I'll never play with import taxes and
shipping rates just for hoods.

Any online shop where there'd be nice choice? I don't like rubber hood
much and would prefer plastic or (if possible) metal hoods.

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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[wendy beard]

On Nov 1, 2007 3:50 PM, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anybody on this list shooting those kind of events and actually selling
> prints while the event is still in progress?
>
> Anybody NOT on this list that you know is doing that?
>

I shoot events and sell on-site.
I don't print on-site though. Only thumbnail sheets for display and selection.

W

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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[Bob Sullivan]

Congrats Mark!
Tell them to get a bigger shot up on the web site.
Regards,  Bob S.

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>
> >Cryptic subject line, eh?
> >
> >Can't say more right now but I'll reveal the meaning shortly. :-)
>
> Here's the deal:
> I was convinced I was going to end up with one of the "consolation
> prizes", a microfiber lens cloth.
> Not so:
> http://www.sigmaphoto.com/contest/winners_summerdreams.asp
>
> I'm chuffed. :)
>
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brendan MacRae" Subject: Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.


>
> --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and these
>> cards are little more
>> than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi
>> mode on the Nikon
>> Coolpix P3 I used to have). A pro user might see
>> some actual benefit.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>
> I think you'll need to elaborate on that one. A pro is
> going to see benefits from a mediocre Wifi card with
> little range and a tepid upload speed?

Very little pro photography involves the camera being used in constant high 
speed shooting a half mile from a router. I can certainly see possibilities 
with this technology at it's present level of quality.

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Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

[Cotty]

On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

> what if I had to leave my house and 
>only had a few minutes to get the family to safety?  All my kids' and 
>family pictures are stored digitally and I worry about losing them to 
>natural disaster or some other tragedy including computer crashes.  So 
>here is my latest scheme:
>
>Once a week or more I manually run an rsync command to sync the files 
>from the Linux box to an external USB drive.  If I have to leave the 
>house in a hurry I can just grab the external enclosure which is in the 
>office next to the front door.
>
>A friend added to the paranoia the other day and suggested running 
>another rsync job to another Linux box at my parents' house for even 
>more redundancy.  Not a bad idea...  The initial sync would take hours 
>over the internet but changes and additions would go relatively quickly.

Dude - you want to move from there, sounds like a dangerous place to live.

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Re: [Rumours] Pentax may offer a relatively high fps camera

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/02 Fri AM 12:00:34 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: [Rumours] Pentax may offer a relatively high fps camera
> 
> 
> On Nov 1, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
> 
> >> Rumours point to a camera capable of more than 5fps.
> >> Maybe even 7-9 fps.
> > Much, much too little ;-)
> >
> 
> Yeah, if I can't shoot a feature length movie captured directly into  
> the RAW buffer, it just isn't worth thinking about an upgrade.

Pentax hasn't been into real video equipment for some time..


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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Adam Maas]

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and these
>> cards are little more 
>> than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi
>> mode on the Nikon 
>> Coolpix P3 I used to have). A pro user might see
>> some actual benefit.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
> 
> I think you'll need to elaborate on that one. A pro is
> going to see benefits from a mediocre Wifi card with
> little range and a tepid upload speed?
> 
> -Brendan
> 

It's main redeeming values are in situations where you're shooting 1-2 shots 
every 30 seconds, and want to get those over to a base/editing station that's 
out of cable reach (or the cable would be in the way). Events and Studio work 
in other words. Range is an issue with this card (understandably, as there's 
antenna limitations due to form factor) and the upload speeds are adequate for 
event shooting, but not for sports. 

It's utterly useless for the consumer IMHO. Not as useful as the better WiFi 
grips/dongles, but adequate in certain situations for a pro.

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Re: [Rumours] Pentax may offer a relatively high fps camera

[Adam Maas]

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/11/02 Fri AM 12:00:34 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: [Rumours] Pentax may offer a relatively high fps camera
>>
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
>>
 Rumours point to a camera capable of more than 5fps.
 Maybe even 7-9 fps.
>>> Much, much too little ;-)
>>>
>> Yeah, if I can't shoot a feature length movie captured directly into  
>> the RAW buffer, it just isn't worth thinking about an upgrade.
> 
> Pentax hasn't been into real video equipment for some time..
> 

DSLR's have been used to shoot at least one feature movie so far (Tim Burton's 
Corpse Bride).

-Adam


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RE: WI-FI: Longish and OT..some

[Jack Davis]

Drink enough of it and you'll "sparkle".

Jack
--- mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If your "wine" is sparkling, you need medical help.
> > 
> > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 09:51:26 GMT
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > Subject: RE: WI-FI: Longish and OT..some
> > 
> > LoL  Sparkling wine did have a different bouquet..huh(?)
> > 
> > Jack
> > --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > >When we returned to the starting point and de-trained, most
> headed
> > > for
> > > >the station for restroom, wine and &/or photos.
> > > 
> > > I never obtain my wine in a restroom Jack - or my photos. Both
> can be
> > > 
> > > dangerous nowadays.  A word ot the wise.
> > > 
> > > Tom C.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > > >Subject: WI-FI: Longish and OT..some
> > > >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:14:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >This reminds me of an event last weekend wherein my wife and I
> along
> > > >with our daughter and son in law. did the Napa Valley Wine
> Train. It
> > > >was a Sunday and its being fresh cool fall foliage period, the
> train
> > > >was full..according to out "car host".
> > > >As the groups were called and approached the train for boarding,
> > > each
> > > >of the party groups were asked for a no obligation pose while a
> gal
> > > >toting a Nikon D50 astutely position the the group members and
> took
> > > a
> > > >couple of shots.
> > > >During the train ride, the same person stopped at each table and
> > > asked
> > > >if we would mind having our pictures taken. Both we couples
> > > complied.
> > > >When we returned to the starting point and de-trained, most
> headed
> > > for
> > > >the station for restroom, wine and &/or photos.
> > > >They had a wall of racks chocked full of groups of shots with
> back
> > > up
> > > >copies.
> > > >The exposure problems apparent in the cars was deftly handled
> and I
> > > >noticed surrounding riders were softened and darkened some.
> > > >Behind a counter in a sweating blur was the photographer and her
> > > >Photoshop assistant (as I learned) pulling 6x8 prints, placing
> them
> > > in
> > > >appropriate hard gold leaf trimmed folders, taking credit
> > > cards..etc.
> > > >I was drained imagining what such a three and a half hour period
> > > would
> > > >take out of me.
> > > >I obviously don't know how many they sold ($21.50 per print),
> but
> > > they
> > > >had my respect and money.
> > > >Could WI-FI have been of some help? They may have been so
> equipped.
> > > >
> > > >Jack
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[Doug Franklin]

mike wilson wrote:

>> Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me.  I'm 
>> not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has 
>> write privileges to /any/ part of my system.  Not even with WEP.
> 
> If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC 
> address access?

Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you 
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Mark Roberts]

Thibouille wrote:

>Maybe let's imagine the following situation:
>You have lots of pics to take and you can't take the time to change
>cards otherwise you might lose a couple important shots.
>
>I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi seems slow
>unfortunately) so all pics would be uploaded into my laptop in my
>backpack (which is closed but not in standby mode). It'd give me well
>the size of the harddisk for storage.
>
>It could be useful in some cases.

I have a friend who shoots the graduation ceremonies at Carnegie Mellon 
University and this would probably be ideal for him. You need to get a 
shot of each student getting his/her diploma; there's a *lot* of them 
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[David J Brooks]

On 11/2/07, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Back in the studio days, we used video feed to a monitor, placed
> where the subjects had to turn around to see it, as the camera's
> viewfinder.  It was damn useful, and didn't interfere with our
> interaction with the subjects. We also controlled the camera-- tilt,
> pan, zoom, shutter, etc-- with a wired remote.

Were did the red laser pointers come in then.:-)

Dave
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:39 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
> > Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
> >
> >
> >
> >> I was intrigued with the use of wireless image transfer in the
> >> portrait photography endeavor. Watching what the photographer in that
> >> session did and how it brought the portrait session to life in a
> >> different way inspired me to consider possibilities for the use of
> >> wireless as a fast feedback tool.
> >
> > I actually have some misgivings about that. I can imagine how
> > distracting a
> > monitor showing the pictures as they are being taken as a real
> > impediment to
> > developing any kind of flow in the session.
> >
> > William Robb
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Re: OT: Storing/Backing Up Images

[Axel Belinfante]

I thought I had heard/read that the encoding for CD
was more robust than for DVD (more redundancy in the
case of CD, which would give you better chance to be
able to read your data in case of bit rot on the medium). 

don't know how much of this is true.

Axel.

> DVDs are structurally sounder than CDs.  Based on that I'd say the 
> opposite is true.
> 
> John Graves wrote:
> > I just wrote my 2007 Picture folder to a DVD.  It took about 3.5 Gb and 
> > there is space left.   H. Not enough pictures.
> >
> > I remember reading somewhere that CD's will outlive DVD's .  Is this 
> > still true?  Does anyone have any idea about the guesstimated lifetime 
> > for a CD vs a DVD?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > John G.
> > WA1JG

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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Brendan MacRae]

--- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Brendan MacRae wrote:
> > --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and
> these
> >> cards are little more 
> >> than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi
> >> mode on the Nikon 
> >> Coolpix P3 I used to have). A pro user might see
> >> some actual benefit.
> >>
> >> -Adam
> >>
> > 
> > I think you'll need to elaborate on that one. A
> pro is
> > going to see benefits from a mediocre Wifi card
> with
> > little range and a tepid upload speed?
> > 
> > -Brendan
> > 
> 
> It's main redeeming values are in situations where
> you're shooting 1-2 shots every 30 seconds, and want
> to get those over to a base/editing station that's
> out of cable reach (or the cable would be in the
> way). Events and Studio work in other words. Range
> is an issue with this card (understandably, as
> there's antenna limitations due to form factor) and
> the upload speeds are adequate for event shooting,
> but not for sports. 
> 
> It's utterly useless for the consumer IMHO. Not as
> useful as the better WiFi grips/dongles, but
> adequate in certain situations for a pro.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> 

Fair enough, but I still can't imagine many pros
flocking to get this card (at least with its current
performance). Now, the next generation card? Maybe.

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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Mark Roberts]

Brendan MacRae wrote:

>--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> I have a friend who shoots the graduation ceremonies
>> at Carnegie Mellon 
>> University and this would probably be ideal for him.
>> You need to get a 
>> shot of each student getting his/her diploma;
>> there's a *lot* of them 
>> and they don't pause the ceremony for the
>> photographer to swap cards ;-)
>
>Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers.
>Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such
>situations back when we all shot film ?

In this specific case, they *didn't* offer this service in the days of 
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/02 Fri PM 12:37:34 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
> >> Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me.  I'm 
> >> not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has 
> >> write privileges to /any/ part of my system.  Not even with WEP.
> > 
> > If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC 
> > address access?
> 
> Many Ethernet cards can be configured to present any MAC address you 
> want to the network, so that's no real protection.

How would the cards know which MAC address to assume?


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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[David J Brooks]

On 11/2/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
> >Well done Sir.
> >
> >I remember that shot from before. I still love it.
>
> Thanks, Dave. What I liked about this contest, BTW, was that they
> required that you send in a *print* of the image (minimum size, 8 x 10)
> in addition to the digital file. This gave me a leg up on some of the
> competition, I think, because I'm a pretty good printer. >

Like putting your best foot forward, eh.

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Re: OT: Which copyright date to put on a scan?

[P. J. Alling]

I haven't been informed yet so I use the current year.

graywolf wrote:
> I donno the current legal requirement, but since copyright now is until 75 
> years 
> after the photographers death, shouldn't you use the date you plan on dying.
>
> 
>
> It would take an essay to explain why, but I personally think copyrights and 
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[David Savage]

On 11/3/07, Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers.
> Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such
> situations back when we all shot film ?

Of course the managed. But they sure didn't have the capacity to sell
prints after the ceromony.

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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[pnstenquist]

Pros used multiple bodies and assistants to reload. When my son graduated from 
high shool in the early nineties, a film shooter shot each kid getting his 
diploma. He had three cameras and a nimble fingered assistant.

One of the local pros told me that he started nis career as a PA in New York. A 
lot of the fashion photogs there used Pentax 6x7. He said he was always afraid 
to work with the Pentax shooters, because the cameras were difficult to load. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Thibouille wrote:
> > 
> > >Maybe let's imagine the following situation:
> > >You have lots of pics to take and you can't take
> > the time to change
> > >cards otherwise you might lose a couple important
> > shots.
> > >
> > >I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi
> > seems slow
> > >unfortunately) so all pics would be uploaded into
> > my laptop in my
> > >backpack (which is closed but not in standby mode).
> > It'd give me well
> > >the size of the harddisk for storage.
> > >
> > >It could be useful in some cases.
> > 
> > I have a friend who shoots the graduation ceremonies
> > at Carnegie Mellon 
> > University and this would probably be ideal for him.
> > You need to get a 
> > shot of each student getting his/her diploma;
> > there's a *lot* of them 
> > and they don't pause the ceremony for the
> > photographer to swap cards ;-)
> > 
> 
> Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers.
> Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such
> situations back when we all shot film ?
> 
> -Brendan
> 
> 
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Brendan MacRae]

--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thibouille wrote:
> 
> >Maybe let's imagine the following situation:
> >You have lots of pics to take and you can't take
> the time to change
> >cards otherwise you might lose a couple important
> shots.
> >
> >I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi
> seems slow
> >unfortunately) so all pics would be uploaded into
> my laptop in my
> >backpack (which is closed but not in standby mode).
> It'd give me well
> >the size of the harddisk for storage.
> >
> >It could be useful in some cases.
> 
> I have a friend who shoots the graduation ceremonies
> at Carnegie Mellon 
> University and this would probably be ideal for him.
> You need to get a 
> shot of each student getting his/her diploma;
> there's a *lot* of them 
> and they don't pause the ceremony for the
> photographer to swap cards ;-)
> 

Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers.
Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such
situations back when we all shot film ?

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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[P. J. Alling]

While everybody's arguing about the desirability of this capability 
maybe they should read the dpReview the product, that Thibouille posted 
not too long ago.  It hardly looks earth shattering in it's capabilities.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/eye-fi/


John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "Tom C"
>
>   
>> Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is enough of a market
>> for the technology to develop it.  :-)
>> 
>
> Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15 - 20 years after it 
> was invented as "a solution in search of a problem." A lot of modern 
> technology seems to be that way.
>
> Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what you can use it for.
>
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[P. J. Alling]

Usually the higher the speed, the greater the current draw, (that seems 
to be an immutable law, though I can't remember why at the moment), so 
either you risk being between cards when that once in a lifetime image 
happens or batteries...

Thibouille wrote:
> Maybe let's imagine the following situation:
> You have lots of pics to take and you can't take the time to change
> cards otherwise you might lose a couple important shots.
>
> I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi seems slow
> unfortunately) so all pics would be uploaded into my laptop in my
> backpack (which is closed but not in standby mode). It'd give me well
> the size of the harddisk for storage.
>
> It could be useful in some cases.
>
>   


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Re: AP Top News Photos

[P. J. Alling]

It helps if the baskets have been run over...

Cotty wrote:
> On 01/11/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> They're not going to put baskets of kittens on the news are they?
>> 
>
> You've not watched local ITV news !!
>
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OT: Media Access Control (MAC) Layer

[Bob Blakely]

The MAC communications layer resides in all hardware/firmware in ALL network 
adapters/cards/whatever. Each MAC has (or should have) an unique address 
different from that in all others in all the network adapters in the world. 
Part of this address in manufacturer identification and manufacturers 
therefore have a very large number of addresses available to them so that 
each device they manufacture possesses an address unique in all the world. 
In most devices, there is no way to change this address and it shouldn't be 
changed. The MAC address is comparable to the ESN (Electronic Serial Number) 
that exists in all wireless (PCS) phones. It's the number that's actually 
called to reach your phone - uniquely apart from all others. Your IP address 
is a software address in a higher protocol and must be assigned by your 
provider. It's analog in the PCS world is your telephone number and while 
assigned to you, it belongs to the phone company (unless transferred to 
another company). This way, you don't have to get a new telephone number 
each time you buy a new phone. -- Nor do you have to get a new IP address 
every time you use a different adapter. The parallel with the PCS system is 
not perfect , and there's much more to this and to the functions of each 
communications layer, but they are transparent to you and are not germane to 
the MAC discussions that have been going on here.

Unless your a hacker, you have no need to change a MAC address and you 
shouldn't. Doing so can cause network havoc.

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Re: Cannon Balls, Canon Balls - Errol Morris Photo Part II (now part three!)

[Charles Robinson]

On Oct 5, 2007, at 14:24, Norm Baugher wrote:

> Part two of the saga...
> http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/?th&emc=th

For those keeping up, I clicked on this old mail here and see that  
Episode III of the Cannon Ball saga is up now.

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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[P. J. Alling]

It looks like a pinpoint at that resolution.  A great advertisement for 
Sigma...
(The image itself is beautiful), I still hate you.

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 11:26:14 GMT
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!
>>
>> Don't I see a UFO in that great pic?!
>> 
>
> It's a Mallard.
>
>   
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>> "I don't mind if you don't like my manners.
>> I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad.
>> I grieve over them long winter evenings."
>>   -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart)
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Cryptic subject line, eh?

 Can't say more right now but I'll reveal the meaning shortly. :-)
 
>>> Here's the deal:
>>> I was convinced I was going to end up with one of the "consolation 
>>> prizes", a microfiber lens cloth. 
>>> Not so:
>>> http://www.sigmaphoto.com/contest/winners_summerdreams.asp
>>>
>>> I'm chuffed. :)
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Re: OT: Which copyright date to put on a scan?

[David J Brooks]

On 11/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't been informed yet so I use the current year.
>
> graywolf wrote:
> > I donno the current legal requirement, but since copyright now is until 75 
> > years
> > after the photographers death, shouldn't you use the date you plan on dying.

That would have been Sept 25, 2000, but i pulled through.

Dave
> >
> > 
> >
> > It would take an essay to explain why, but I personally think copyrights and
> > patents ought to only be seven years these days.
> >
> >
>
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Re: Spam: Question about DFA 100/2.8 Macro

[Derby Chang]

Igor Roshchin wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I finally bought a new DFA 100/2.8 Macro lens and found that 
> the "clamp switch" does not provide rock solid clamping.
> It does provide a bit of dumping, and switches of AF, but
> I can still manually change the focus without much of a problem.
>
> Question to the happy owners of a DFA 100/2.8 Macro:
> Is this normal, or the clamping on your lens is rock solid?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Igor
>
>
>   

Same on my DFA50. The clamp is probably designed to stop the lens 
drifting under its own weight (or with the weight of a ring flash). You 
can always force it.

This is similar to the FA50 and FA100 macros. But I have to say, the 
feel of the FA focus is a bit better than the DFAs, which isn't as smooth.

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PESO (sorta) Product Photography

[Scott Loveless]

Hey, gang.

About a year and a half ago I made some photographs of pottery for the 
mother of a co-worker.  I delivered about 70 photos and really didn't 
hear much back about after that.  Her intention was to get them on a web 
site and start an "e-tail" business.  It looks now like she's finally 
getting something together.  I recently spoke with her son, Ben (my 
former co-worker), and he said she wanted some more photos and a 
portrait for the site.  I guess he's in the process of building a better 
gallery and implementing a shopping cart.

Anyway, http://www.twinmoonpottery.com/ is the site, and all the photos 
on the index page are mine.  (The photos in the gallery are not.)  The 
only digital camera I had available at the time was the 750z.  Shots 
were rather wide, to allow for some cropping, and all were lit with a 
pair of daylight balanced fluorescent bulbs in Home Depot clip-on shop 
lights.  (The bulbs now reside over my bathroom sink.)  Ben has done 
some very liberal cropping and I think they don't look too bad.

Any and all opinions are most welcome.

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Re: Question about DFA 100/2.8 Macro

[Bruce Dayton]

On my old FA 100/2.8 the purpose of the clamp was to dampen the focus
feel so it felt more like a manual focus lens.  It was never intended
to lock focus as you are thinking.  I would assume the new DFA to be
the same.

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Thursday, November 1, 2007, 1:59:37 PM, you wrote:


IR> Hello!

IR> I finally bought a new DFA 100/2.8 Macro lens and found that 
IR> the "clamp switch" does not provide rock solid clamping.
IR> It does provide a bit of dumping, and switches of AF, but
IR> I can still manually change the focus without much of a problem.

IR> Question to the happy owners of a DFA 100/2.8 Macro:
IR> Is this normal, or the clamping on your lens is rock solid?

IR> Thanks,

IR> Igor





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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Adam Maas]

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>> --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and
>> these
 cards are little more 
 than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi
 mode on the Nikon 
 Coolpix P3 I used to have). A pro user might see
 some actual benefit.

 -Adam

>>> I think you'll need to elaborate on that one. A
>> pro is
>>> going to see benefits from a mediocre Wifi card
>> with
>>> little range and a tepid upload speed?
>>>
>>> -Brendan
>>>
>> It's main redeeming values are in situations where
>> you're shooting 1-2 shots every 30 seconds, and want
>> to get those over to a base/editing station that's
>> out of cable reach (or the cable would be in the
>> way). Events and Studio work in other words. Range
>> is an issue with this card (understandably, as
>> there's antenna limitations due to form factor) and
>> the upload speeds are adequate for event shooting,
>> but not for sports. 
>>
>> It's utterly useless for the consumer IMHO. Not as
>> useful as the better WiFi grips/dongles, but
>> adequate in certain situations for a pro.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
> 
> Fair enough, but I still can't imagine many pros
> flocking to get this card (at least with its current
> performance). Now, the next generation card? Maybe.
> 
> -Brendan
> 

"Most Pros' are going to be running higher-end CaNikon gear, which already has 
WiFi capabilities. This is the card for the rare few who use Pentax or 
Panasonic mid-range kit (or those running low-end kit).

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Re: PESO (sorta) Product Photography

[David J Brooks]

Looks pretty good.

The bulbs intrige me, can you supply a link as to what they and the
clip on thing look like Scott

Dave

On 11/2/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, gang.
>
> About a year and a half ago I made some photographs of pottery for the
> mother of a co-worker.  I delivered about 70 photos and really didn't
> hear much back about after that.  Her intention was to get them on a web
> site and start an "e-tail" business.  It looks now like she's finally
> getting something together.  I recently spoke with her son, Ben (my
> former co-worker), and he said she wanted some more photos and a
> portrait for the site.  I guess he's in the process of building a better
> gallery and implementing a shopping cart.
>
> Anyway, http://www.twinmoonpottery.com/ is the site, and all the photos
> on the index page are mine.  (The photos in the gallery are not.)  The
> only digital camera I had available at the time was the 750z.  Shots
> were rather wide, to allow for some cropping, and all were lit with a
> pair of daylight balanced fluorescent bulbs in Home Depot clip-on shop
> lights.  (The bulbs now reside over my bathroom sink.)  Ben has done
> some very liberal cropping and I think they don't look too bad.
>
> Any and all opinions are most welcome.
>
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Paul Crovella]

Geez, you're right. It's a wonder they ever even went digital at all.

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Thibouille wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe let's imagine the following situation:
>>> You have lots of pics to take and you can't take
>> the time to change
>>> cards otherwise you might lose a couple important
>> shots.
>>> I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi
>> seems slow
>>> unfortunately) so all pics would be uploaded into
>> my laptop in my
>>> backpack (which is closed but not in standby mode).
>> It'd give me well
>>> the size of the harddisk for storage.
>>>
>>> It could be useful in some cases.
>> I have a friend who shoots the graduation ceremonies
>> at Carnegie Mellon 
>> University and this would probably be ideal for him.
>> You need to get a 
>> shot of each student getting his/her diploma;
>> there's a *lot* of them 
>> and they don't pause the ceremony for the
>> photographer to swap cards ;-)
>>
> 
> Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers.
> Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such
> situations back when we all shot film ?
> 
> -Brendan
> 
> 
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[P. J. Alling]

Two, maybe three identical camera bodies and lenses, and an assistant to 
reload...

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Thibouille wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Maybe let's imagine the following situation:
>>> You have lots of pics to take and you can't take
>>>   
>> the time to change
>> 
>>> cards otherwise you might lose a couple important
>>>   
>> shots.
>> 
>>> I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi
>>>   
>> seems slow
>> 
>>> unfortunately) so all pics would be uploaded into
>>>   
>> my laptop in my
>> 
>>> backpack (which is closed but not in standby mode).
>>>   
>> It'd give me well
>> 
>>> the size of the harddisk for storage.
>>>
>>> It could be useful in some cases.
>>>   
>> I have a friend who shoots the graduation ceremonies
>> at Carnegie Mellon 
>> University and this would probably be ideal for him.
>> You need to get a 
>> shot of each student getting his/her diploma;
>> there's a *lot* of them 
>> and they don't pause the ceremony for the
>> photographer to swap cards ;-)
>>
>> 
>
> Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers.
> Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such
> situations back when we all shot film ?
>
> -Brendan
>
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 09:28:01 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
> 
> Adam Maas wrote:
> 
> > The reader is only necessary to configure the WiFi card, it
> > does upload automatically from inside the camera. You do need
> > to configure the card for each individual wirelessnetwork and
> > it doesn't support any user authentication (so most
> > metropolitan-area wifi networks are out).
> 
> Well, maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but that lets it out for me.  I'm 
> not going to have a user that gets in without authentication and has 
> write privileges to /any/ part of my system.  Not even with WEP.
> 

If it's assigning a MAC address to the card and then only allowing that MAC 
address access?


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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 11:26:14 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!
> 
> Don't I see a UFO in that great pic?!

It's a Mallard.

> 
> ---
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> I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad.
> I grieve over them long winter evenings."
>   -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart)
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> > Mark Roberts wrote:
> > 
> >>Cryptic subject line, eh?
> >>
> >>Can't say more right now but I'll reveal the meaning shortly. :-)
> > 
> > Here's the deal:
> > I was convinced I was going to end up with one of the "consolation 
> > prizes", a microfiber lens cloth. 
> > Not so:
> > http://www.sigmaphoto.com/contest/winners_summerdreams.asp
> > 
> > I'm chuffed. :)
> 
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RE: WI-FI: Longish and OT..some

[mike wilson]

If your "wine" is sparkling, you need medical help.
> 
> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 09:51:26 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: RE: WI-FI: Longish and OT..some
> 
> LoL  Sparkling wine did have a different bouquet..huh(?)
> 
> Jack
> --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > >When we returned to the starting point and de-trained, most headed
> > for
> > >the station for restroom, wine and &/or photos.
> > 
> > I never obtain my wine in a restroom Jack - or my photos. Both can be
> > 
> > dangerous nowadays.  A word ot the wise.
> > 
> > Tom C.
> > 
> > 
> > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > >Subject: WI-FI: Longish and OT..some
> > >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:14:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >This reminds me of an event last weekend wherein my wife and I along
> > >with our daughter and son in law. did the Napa Valley Wine Train. It
> > >was a Sunday and its being fresh cool fall foliage period, the train
> > >was full..according to out "car host".
> > >As the groups were called and approached the train for boarding,
> > each
> > >of the party groups were asked for a no obligation pose while a gal
> > >toting a Nikon D50 astutely position the the group members and took
> > a
> > >couple of shots.
> > >During the train ride, the same person stopped at each table and
> > asked
> > >if we would mind having our pictures taken. Both we couples
> > complied.
> > >When we returned to the starting point and de-trained, most headed
> > for
> > >the station for restroom, wine and &/or photos.
> > >They had a wall of racks chocked full of groups of shots with back
> > up
> > >copies.
> > >The exposure problems apparent in the cars was deftly handled and I
> > >noticed surrounding riders were softened and darkened some.
> > >Behind a counter in a sweating blur was the photographer and her
> > >Photoshop assistant (as I learned) pulling 6x8 prints, placing them
> > in
> > >appropriate hard gold leaf trimmed folders, taking credit
> > cards..etc.
> > >I was drained imagining what such a three and a half hour period
> > would
> > >take out of me.
> > >I obviously don't know how many they sold ($21.50 per print), but
> > they
> > >had my respect and money.
> > >Could WI-FI have been of some help? They may have been so equipped.
> > >
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> > >
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Re: Pentax K10D Parts List and Exploded Diagram

[mike wilson]

Magnificent.  Thank you very much.
> 
> From: David Bliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 08:39:15 GMT
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Pentax K10D Parts List and Exploded Diagram
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Thought this document I just (finally) received from Pentax North America
> might be useful to some of you:
> 
> http://dbsi.org/dist/pentax-k10d-parts-list-and-exploded-diagram.tif
> 
> Thanks,
> david
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OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> While a little performance may be lost, might it be better to go with a 
> non-RAID configuration and be sure that Windows swap and Photoshop scratch 
> are on two independent physical devices? Any one have experience with this 
> exactly.
> 
> Also, I'm a little afraid of RAID 0 and recoverability. Thanks.

As I understand it, the only performance loss will be in read/write of files.  
Not really a problem for other than gamers, especially at the real-world times 
we are talking about. So it takes 10 seconds to write a file instead of 7.  No 
problem for me.

I would be more than a little afraid of Raid 0.  But, then, I am a notoriously 
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Re: WI-FI: Longish and OT..some

[Jack Davis]

Seems that might have been a WI-FI situation. If it's a matter of the
casual random tourist wondering by and after a bit of deliberation,
deciding to go for it, the limited image processing system you describe
would probably be easily workable.

A beer cooler would be more useful than WI-FI. ;)

Jack

--- David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When we were in Vegas April. there was a group of young ladies with
> the Margaritaville parrots taking posed pictures of the tourist and
> the birds. I'll admit we wanted to do it, and did.
> 
> After each shoot, she just handed the card to the assistant and viewd
> them via MS's picture it or what ever its called software. Prints
> were
> handled via the MS software aswell, no adjusyments.
> 
> Three 5x7's in those gold leaf frames was $20.00 US. I thought that
> was a great deal. Not sure how much money was made, but they were out
> there at least from 9am to 6pm for three days.
> 
> Thats a lot of standing, dealing with customers and the heat and warm
> beer.
> Glad i don't do on site any more, i hate warm beer,
> 
> LOL
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 11/1/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Guess I wasn't thinking about the D50, but if a camera properly
> suited
> > for such a connection were to be used in the proximity of a laptop?
> > Those shots made on the train probably didn't leave much PS time
> prior
> > to its return. At that, emailing the image files of a size
> sufficient
> > to print a quality 6x8 MAY have been problematic.
> > The train stopped for several minutes at the end of the trip away
> from
> > the station (engine was re-attached to the rear of the train to
> pull us
> > home) and my guess is, the photog was met by a fast car and jetted
> back
> > to deliver the memory card(s) to the PS person.
> > Was interesting to speculate about the logistics.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Wifi wouldn't help in this case due to distance, it's far too
> long a
> > > distance between train and station. Also the only WiFi option for
> the
> > >
> > > D50 is this new SD card we've been discussing. The wifi adaptors
> > > previously have only been available on pro and semi-pro bodies.
> > >
> > > -Adam
> > >
> > >
> > > Jack Davis wrote:
> > > > This reminds me of an event last weekend wherein my wife and I
> > > along
> > > > with our daughter and son in law. did the Napa Valley Wine
> Train.
> > > It
> > > > was a Sunday and its being fresh cool fall foliage period, the
> > > train
> > > > was full..according to out "car host".
> > > > As the groups were called and approached the train for
> boarding,
> > > each
> > > > of the party groups were asked for a no obligation pose while a
> gal
> > > > toting a Nikon D50 astutely position the the group members and
> took
> > > a
> > > > couple of shots.
> > > > During the train ride, the same person stopped at each table
> and
> > > asked
> > > > if we would mind having our pictures taken. Both we couples
> > > complied.
> > > > When we returned to the starting point and de-trained, most
> headed
> > > for
> > > > the station for restroom, wine and &/or photos.
> > > > They had a wall of racks chocked full of groups of shots with
> back
> > > up
> > > > copies.
> > > > The exposure problems apparent in the cars was deftly handled
> and I
> > > > noticed surrounding riders were softened and darkened some.
> > > > Behind a counter in a sweating blur was the photographer and
> her
> > > > Photoshop assistant (as I learned) pulling 6x8 prints, placing
> them
> > > in
> > > > appropriate hard gold leaf trimmed folders, taking credit
> > > cards..etc.
> > > > I was drained imagining what such a three and a half hour
> period
> > > would
> > > > take out of me.
> > > > I obviously don't know how many they sold ($21.50 per print),
> but
> > > they
> > > > had my respect and money.
> > > > Could WI-FI have been of some help? They may have been so
> equipped.
> > > >
> > > > Jack
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: PESO (sorta) Product Photography

[Scott Loveless]

David J Brooks wrote:
> Looks pretty good.
> 
> The bulbs intrige me, can you supply a link as to what they and the
> clip on thing look like Scott
> 

Sure thing, Dave. 
http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5128301475404787010

The clip light is available at just about any hardware or department 
store.  This either came from Home Depot or Wal-Mart.  The bulb in the 
photo is not the bulb I used, but looks a lot like it.  The bulbs used 
for the photos are larger and the packaging said something about 
"daylight".  Also from the hardware store.  Nothing photo specific, 
other than the camera, was used.  So I gave them a try and didn't have 
too many problems.  There's no RAW option with the 750z, and I found 
that proper white balance was impossible with standard household bulbs. 
  I also stretched a white t-shirt over the lights for a little diffusion.

So there's your cheapskate lighting lesson for the day.

> 
> On 11/2/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hey, gang.
>>
>> About a year and a half ago I made some photographs of pottery for the
>> mother of a co-worker.  I delivered about 70 photos and really didn't
>> hear much back about after that.  Her intention was to get them on a web
>> site and start an "e-tail" business.  It looks now like she's finally
>> getting something together.  I recently spoke with her son, Ben (my
>> former co-worker), and he said she wanted some more photos and a
>> portrait for the site.  I guess he's in the process of building a better
>> gallery and implementing a shopping cart.
>>
>> Anyway, http://www.twinmoonpottery.com/ is the site, and all the photos
>> on the index page are mine.  (The photos in the gallery are not.)  The
>> only digital camera I had available at the time was the 750z.  Shots
>> were rather wide, to allow for some cropping, and all were lit with a
>> pair of daylight balanced fluorescent bulbs in Home Depot clip-on shop
>> lights.  (The bulbs now reside over my bathroom sink.)  Ben has done
>> some very liberal cropping and I think they don't look too bad.
>>
>> Any and all opinions are most welcome.
>>
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 06:25:24 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities
> 
> 
>  -- Original message --
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Tom C wrote:
> > 
> > >> > David J Brooks wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > >> I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove
> > >> > >> fruitful.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Like comparing  apples and oranges.:-)
> > >> >
> > >> > I think it's just a case of sour grapes.
> > >>
> > >>The right ingredients for a bad whine.
> > >
> > >If you MUST.
> > 
> > Right. You can't be picky.
> > Any port in a storm.
> > 
> 
> A port in a storm is probably a good idea, you'll never find a cab.

No fair.  I go to sleep for a few hours and everyone has sherry-picked the best 
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French President captured by Pentax

[Cotty]

Watched a doc on J H Lartigue last night and there were a few shots of
him with a black Pentax 35mm camera, looked like an MX or something,
maybe a KX? The above portrait was shot available light and ad-hoc -
there was a shot of Lartigue walking away from Giscard d'Estang with the
Pentax so looks like that's what he used.



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Re: letter to Pentax coustomers

[Mark Roberts]

P. J. Alling wrote:

>Obviously there's no romance in your soul.

Yeah, but you can get by without romance in your soul as long as you 
have it in select parts of your body...



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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Brendan MacRae]

Ah, ok. Yeah, Wifi in general I can see as being a
benefit to some right now. It may eventually prove a
benefit to everyone soon enough. I'm sure that
eventually most wired technologies will end up
wireless as we seen with so many devices over the last
few years. 

-Brendan


--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree that the product has marginal use for most
> people... we've lived 
> without it just fine and can probably do so for
> years to come... TV... 
> Internet... Home Computers... Microwave ovens,
> lightbulbs... automobiles... 
> :-) all non-neccessities when you get down to it.
> But most of us have come 
> to enjoy and depend on them.  They were all
> relatively marginal and poor 
> performers when first introduced.  Wait five years
> and see. Who wants to 
> keep track of cables?
> 
> If my DLSR would automatically upload my images to a
> designated network, 
> comuter, or storage device when within range, I'd
> consider it a plus, but 
> not a 'need to have' (for the things I do).  I'd far
> prefer that a reader 
> was not needed and that the camera had some software
> that managed which 
> networks/destinations images could be uploaded to.
> 
> The 'no thought' needed claims of this device are
> exaggerated.
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> >From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >Subject: Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.
> >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:42:39 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >--- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and
> these
> > > cards are little more
> > > than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw
> WiFi
> > > mode on the Nikon
> > > Coolpix P3 I used to have). A pro user might see
> > > some actual benefit.
> > >
> > > -Adam
> > >
> >
> >I think you'll need to elaborate on that one. A pro
> is
> >going to see benefits from a mediocre Wifi card
> with
> >little range and a tepid upload speed?
> >
> >-Brendan
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Re: French President captured by Pentax

[David J Brooks]

Next you'll be telling me that wrestling is fake, and there is no jello tree.

:-)

Dave

On 11/2/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  die_galerie_der_staatsprasidenten/v_republik/valery_giscard_d_estaing/
> illustration/illustration_1.20564.html>
>
> 
>
> Watched a doc on J H Lartigue last night and there were a few shots of
> him with a black Pentax 35mm camera, looked like an MX or something,
> maybe a KX? The above portrait was shot available light and ad-hoc -
> there was a shot of Lartigue walking away from Giscard d'Estang with the
> Pentax so looks like that's what he used.
>
>
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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[Mark Roberts]

David J Brooks wrote:

>Well done Sir.
>
>I remember that shot from before. I still love it.

Thanks, Dave. What I liked about this contest, BTW, was that they 
required that you send in a *print* of the image (minimum size, 8 x 10) 
in addition to the digital file. This gave me a leg up on some of the 
competition, I think, because I'm a pretty good printer. This is the 
kind of image that really shines as a print: There's all kinds of 
lovely subtle detail in the background. I made the print for my 
competition entry on Hahnemuehl Fine Art Pearl paper, on the reasoning 
that if I was serious about entering the contest I might as well make 
the best print I could.

>http://www.sigmaphoto.com/contest/winners_summerdreams.asp



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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Adam Maas]

Life's little Irony, I'm primarily a film shooter.

-Adam


Paul Crovella wrote:
> Relax, Brendan, I'm just mocking you.
> 
> Your arguments have been the same dismissive whining that's plagued every 
> step of 
> technological progress - "but what was so hard about the way we *used* to do 
> things?"
> 
> It's little more than a tantrum about change.
> 
> Having found it pointless to deal with arguments like yours through rational 
> discourse 
> I've instead chosen to just have a little fun at your expense. Life's too 
> short to get 
> dragged into the mire.
> 
> Cheers,
> Paul
> 
> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>> --- Paul Crovella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Geez, you're right. It's a wonder they ever even
>>> went digital at all.
>>>
>> It's only a wonder if you agree that wired image
>> transfer to WiFi transfer will bring about the same
>> sea change as film to digital certainly has.
>>
>> I don't. But, perhaps I'm just not a prescient as many
>> others on this list. Or, maybe I'm just a lot more
>> skeptical.
>>
>> -Brendan
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Re: shutter count

[David J Brooks]

For what its worth, i always format my cards in the camera, and have
the file names set up as running numbers.

I have had no problems with them reverting to 0001 except when a
series turns over , then they start again, in a seperate folder.

YMMV though

Dave

On 11/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The way sd cards work it really makes no difference.  Both just re-write
> the directory structure.  The data will still remain.  The read/write
> memory of the cards has a finite number of writes.  In fact erasing the
> files might even be better since the whole directory structure doesn't
> have to be rewritten.
>
> Peter Fairweather wrote:
> > John
> >
> > Thanks to advice received here I've cracked the numbering problem.
> >
> >  I do wonder whether formatting the card each time is better than deleting 
> > all.
> >
> > Perhaps someone can enlighten os?
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 01/11/2007, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> From: "Peter Fairweather"
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'm sure this is just stupidity on my part but I'm fairly new to the
> >>> K10D as well.
> >>>
> >>> I bought my camera nearly new a month ago. Every time I download the
> >>> pictures via the card reader, I delete all the images on the card when
> >>> it is back in the camera. Unfortunately the numbering system reverts
> >>> to 0001 each time, which means you had better download to a new
> >>> directory each time, (which I would do normally anyway) if you don't
> >>> want to overwrite previous images.
> >>>
> >> This is just a SWAG, because I have never seen what you're describing.
> >>
> >> Maybe if you are choosing to "delete" all of the images, the algorithm
> >> for numbering images in the camera allows the numbers for the deleted
> >> images to be reused.
> >>
> >> When I transfer my images to the computer, I put card back into the
> >> camera and use format to get rid of the old images, rather than deleting
> >> them.
> >>
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[David J Brooks]

On 11/1/07, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: graywolf
>
> > Being able to transfer your images directly to the laptop your
> > assistant is using to print and sell the images without having to stop
> > shooting is a money making benefit for event photographers. If you are
> > just taking photos for yourself it is probably only good for bragging
> > rights.
>
> Anybody on this list shooting those kind of events and actually selling
> prints while the event is still in progress?

Not any more, to hard on the computers and printers, and to many repairs.

Dave
>
> Anybody NOT on this list that you know is doing that?

Yes.

Dave
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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[Bruce Dayton]

Very cool!  And well deserved.  Congratulations!

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Thursday, November 1, 2007, 3:37:50 PM, you wrote:

MR> Mark Roberts wrote:

>>Cryptic subject line, eh?
>>
>>Can't say more right now but I'll reveal the meaning shortly. :-)

MR> Here's the deal:
MR> I was convinced I was going to end up with one of the "consolation
MR> prizes", a microfiber lens cloth. 
MR> Not so:
MR> http://www.sigmaphoto.com/contest/winners_summerdreams.asp

MR> I'm chuffed. :)






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Re: letter to Pentax coustomers

[P. J. Alling]

Oh the possible answers, must resist...

Mark Roberts wrote:
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>
>   
>> Obviously there's no romance in your soul.
>> 
>
> Yeah, but you can get by without romance in your soul as long as you 
> have it in select parts of your body...
>
>
>
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Re: PESO (sorta) Product Photography

[David J Brooks]

Ok, thats what i thought the clip on was, and i have at least one of
those around.

I just bought some of those energy type bulbs, like whats in your
light, and i do remember seeing something on a package about daylight.

Looks like i'll be able to try that here at the homestead

Dave

On 11/2/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
> > Looks pretty good.
> >
> > The bulbs intrige me, can you supply a link as to what they and the
> > clip on thing look like Scott
> >
>
> Sure thing, Dave.
> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5128301475404787010
>
> The clip light is available at just about any hardware or department
> store.  This either came from Home Depot or Wal-Mart.  The bulb in the
> photo is not the bulb I used, but looks a lot like it.  The bulbs used
> for the photos are larger and the packaging said something about
> "daylight".  Also from the hardware store.  Nothing photo specific,
> other than the camera, was used.  So I gave them a try and didn't have
> too many problems.  There's no RAW option with the 750z, and I found
> that proper white balance was impossible with standard household bulbs.
>   I also stretched a white t-shirt over the lights for a little diffusion.
>
> So there's your cheapskate lighting lesson for the day.
>
> >
> > On 11/2/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hey, gang.
> >>
> >> About a year and a half ago I made some photographs of pottery for the
> >> mother of a co-worker.  I delivered about 70 photos and really didn't
> >> hear much back about after that.  Her intention was to get them on a web
> >> site and start an "e-tail" business.  It looks now like she's finally
> >> getting something together.  I recently spoke with her son, Ben (my
> >> former co-worker), and he said she wanted some more photos and a
> >> portrait for the site.  I guess he's in the process of building a better
> >> gallery and implementing a shopping cart.
> >>
> >> Anyway, http://www.twinmoonpottery.com/ is the site, and all the photos
> >> on the index page are mine.  (The photos in the gallery are not.)  The
> >> only digital camera I had available at the time was the 750z.  Shots
> >> were rather wide, to allow for some cropping, and all were lit with a
> >> pair of daylight balanced fluorescent bulbs in Home Depot clip-on shop
> >> lights.  (The bulbs now reside over my bathroom sink.)  Ben has done
> >> some very liberal cropping and I think they don't look too bad.
> >>
> >> Any and all opinions are most welcome.
> >>
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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[mike wilson]

That is _miles_ better than any of the others.  Well done.
> 
> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 10:37:50 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!
> 
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> >Cryptic subject line, eh?
> >
> >Can't say more right now but I'll reveal the meaning shortly. :-)
> 
> Here's the deal:
> I was convinced I was going to end up with one of the "consolation 
> prizes", a microfiber lens cloth. 
> Not so:
> http://www.sigmaphoto.com/contest/winners_summerdreams.asp
> 
> I'm chuffed. :)
> 
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Paul Crovella]

Relax, Brendan, I'm just mocking you.

Your arguments have been the same dismissive whining that's plagued every step 
of 
technological progress - "but what was so hard about the way we *used* to do 
things?"

It's little more than a tantrum about change.

Having found it pointless to deal with arguments like yours through rational 
discourse 
I've instead chosen to just have a little fun at your expense. Life's too short 
to get 
dragged into the mire.

Cheers,
Paul

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> --- Paul Crovella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Geez, you're right. It's a wonder they ever even
>> went digital at all.
>>
> 
> It's only a wonder if you agree that wired image
> transfer to WiFi transfer will bring about the same
> sea change as film to digital certainly has.
> 
> I don't. But, perhaps I'm just not a prescient as many
> others on this list. Or, maybe I'm just a lot more
> skeptical.
> 
> -Brendan
> 
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[P. J. Alling]

I was away from the computer and hadn't read the entire thread, and 
apparently I still haven't...

Brendan MacRae wrote:
> Oh, P.J., we're wy past that at this point! Take a
> look at some prior posts.
>
> :-]
>
> -Brendan
> --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> While everybody's arguing about the desirability of
>> this capability 
>> maybe they should read the dpReview the product,
>> that Thibouille posted 
>> not too long ago.  It hardly looks earth shattering
>> in it's capabilities.
>>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/eye-fi/
>>
>>
>> John Sessoms wrote:
>> 
>>> From: "Tom C"
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is
 
>> enough of a market
>> 
 for the technology to develop it.  :-)
 
 
>>> Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15
>>>   
>> - 20 years after it 
>> 
>>> was invented as "a solution in search of a
>>>   
>> problem." A lot of modern 
>> 
>>> technology seems to be that way.
>>>
>>> Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what
>>>   
>> you can use it for.
>> 
>>>   
>>>   
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>> University and the Harvard University football team.
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Re: GESO: First try with Lightroom web export

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/11/01 Thu PM 07:45:23 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: GESO: First try with Lightroom web export
> 
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> > Doug Brewer and I went down to Grandfather Mountain last weekend to 
> > shoot some fall color. Here's a Lightroom-generated gallery with a few 
> > shots:
> > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm3/
> 
> And here's a few from the trip with Mark, combined with those from a 
> trip earlier in the month with my family:
> 
> http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.6.72

Those are way too small to do themselves justice.  I would like to see them 
about double the size they are.


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Re: OT Grand Rapids Michigan

[David J Brooks]

Looks like the next trip is Monday to "Lower end of Ohio". Thats all i
know.:-) Looks like i might see Kentucky skylight yet.

:-)

Dave

On 10/19/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/18/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >My understanding from the other drivers is that it will be
> > > through Chicago and up 39.
> >
> > In that case you'll be able to get some real street photography 
>
> Slow enough to not have to pan.LOL
>
> Dave
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> > http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: OT Grand Rapids Michigan
> >
> >
> > > Not sure. My understanding from the other drivers is that it will be
> > > through Chicago and up 39.
> > >
> > > My quess is we leave Mississauga Ontario Monday around 8 am.
> > >
> > > No tape or CD player in my truck. I'll bring ,my ipod and speakers.
> > >
> > > Out of the frying pan, into the fire now eh.:-)
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On 10/17/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >.i find out, a possible trip monday to Janesville Wis.
> > >>
> > >> Thru the Upper Peninsula of Michigan?
> > >>
> > >> Kenneth Waller
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>
> > >> Subject: Re: OT Grand Rapids Michigan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Thanks Mark and everyone else.
> > >> >
> > >> > Back from a 1 day trip here locally, and now i find out, a possible
> > >> > trip monday to Janesville Wis.
> > >> >
> > >> > Escort a conveyor. Follow all the way, which is good, cause my only US
> > >> > driving experinces so far are following MR to GFM.:-0
> > >> >
> > >> > Just might get that Chigaco street line form the window.:-) I';ll
> > >> > bring some blues CD;s to pass the time.
> > >> >
> > >> > Dave
> > >> >
> > >> > On 10/16/07, Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> Hi Dave -
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm about 45 minutes from GR and Holland.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The waterfront in Holland offers a lot of good photo
> > >> >> ops. The city is built around a good sized lake that
> > >> >> connects to Lake Michigan. There is a pretty
> > >> >> distinctive lighthouse - 'Big Red' where the lakes
> > >> >> join. The lighthouse is on the south side of the
> > >> >> channel, but is best shot from the north, looking
> > >> >> across the channel. There's a state park there with
> > >> >> some low dunes, woods, beach stuff.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Grand Haven, about 30 minutes to the north, has a good
> > >> >> size lighthouse as well. Very nice boardwalk along the
> > >> >> beach that runs along another channel from the
> > >> >> renovated city center all the way through another good
> > >> >> sized state park. There's a Coast Guard station there
> > >> >> and the opportunity to catch the cutters in action.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> To the south of Holland - another half hour - is
> > >> >> Saugutuck, an artsy lakefront community with one of
> > >> >> the biggest and nicest beaches / lake shore parks in
> > >> >> the state.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Weather along the lake is always unpredictable. There
> > >> >> is little color change here so far this year - very
> > >> >> late season this year. The woods along the lake always
> > >> >> change late - so I doubt that you'll see many peak
> > >> >> color areas next week. I was shooting in the Allegan
> > >> >> Forest yesterday - it pushes right up within 20 miles
> > >> >> of Holland. Aside from the sumac and some weedy trees,
> > >> >> it was as green as late July.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Here's a shot of the Holland lighthouse -
> > >> >>
> > >> >> http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/lighthouses/020901.htm
> > >> >>
> > >> >> And Grand Haven -
> > >> >>
> > >> >> http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/lighthouses/0308l01.htm
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh yeah - sunsets along the lake can be nice as well.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - MCC
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --- David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > There is a chance i will be going to Grand Rapids,
> > >> >> > more specifically
> > >> >> > Holland, Michigan for an escort trip to Sault Ste
> > >> >> > Marie next week, and
> > >> >> > then points beyond back in Canada.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Probably no time to visit, but, camera worthy
> > >> >> > area?
> > >> >> > :-)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Dave
> > >> >> >
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> > >> >> > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> > >> >> > Ontario Canada
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Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

[Tom C]

Thanks to all for the suggestions and insight.

I decided to go with the two 500GB drives configured as a RAID 1 array.  I 
like the idea of having an automatic, almost real-time backup of the primary 
drive.  I also chose this option because drives in general are dirt cheap 
and I can install another one or two shortly after getting it.

In fact, I'm likely to install two more 500GB drives, so I have plenty of 
space and options for allocating swap and scratch.

I was telling my son how cheap this stuff is. Back in the late '80's I 
worked on a project where I recovered 4.5GB of DASD on IBM 3380's.  That was 
on my resume for 10 years because it represented over $750K savings to the 
company. I took that off several years ago.  4GB drives, if they can be 
found anymore are dirt cheap.  A 4GB microdrive goes for under $100, not 
mention that 4GB solid state CF are now so inexpensive as to make 
microdrives look like dinosaurs.

Tom C.


>From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions
>Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:04:49 +0900
>
>At 05:03 AM 2/11/2007, you wrote:
> >I'm within hours from making a decision regarding a new desktop.
> >
> >I'm currently using PS2.  The desktop comes with Vista Home Premium, 
>though
> >it's possible I'll go to XP Pro depending on how performance seems.  I'm 
>on
> >a laptop at present with Vista Business.  No major complaints after 
>turning
> >off eye candy, reminders, automatic scheduled processes, and telling it 
>to
> >look like classic windows.
> >
> >I'll likely get 1TB of storage.  But there are options.
> >
> >1.  2 X 500 GB non-RAID SATA drives.
> >2.  2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 0.
> >3.  2 X 500 GB configured as RAID 1.
> >
> >Let's forget option 3 since I can backup to any external drive I want.
> >
> >To the meat of my question... Ideally the Windows virtual swap file and
> >Photoshop scratch area are not supposed to be on the same physical disk.
> >With option 2 though, Windows and CS2 will see 1 big drive.  Who can tell
> >which physical drive is being utilized for what?  It seems counter to 
>what I
> >think would be the best approach (which is to have an additional RAID 0
> >array for PS Scratch, which I won't).
> >
> >While a little performance may be lost, might it be better to go with a
> >non-RAID configuration and be sure that Windows swap and Photoshop 
>scratch
> >are on two independent physical devices? Any one have experience with 
>this
> >exactly.
> >
> >Also, I'm a little afraid of RAID 0 and recoverability. Thanks.
>
>Stay away from RAID 0 for file storage. I lost 8 months of data (which I
>didn't back-up) due to a drive that physically destroyed itself.
>
>I recommend building your workstation for speed, & looking into Network
>Attached Storage (NAS) for file storage/back-up. (I'm currently considering
>a Netgear ReadyNAS configured for RAID 5.)
>
>If you went that route, option 1 (or ideally 2), would be the way to go 
>IMHO.
>
>Also, check the windows web site. There is a white paper there about
>configuring your system for digital imaging.
>
>Cheers,
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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[Cotty]

>> > >> > >> I Unless, as I said, there is a situation where it might prove
>> > >> > >> fruitful.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >Like comparing  apples and oranges.:-)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I think it's just a case of sour grapes.
>> > >>
>> > >>The right ingredients for a bad whine.
>> > >
>> > >If you MUST.
>> > 
>> > Right. You can't be picky.
>> > Any port in a storm.
>> > 
>> 
>> A port in a storm is probably a good idea, you'll never find a cab.
>
>No fair.  I go to sleep for a few hours and everyone has sherry-picked
>the best lines.

Relax and all your angst will evaporate.

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Re: OT: Storing/Backing Up Images

[P. J. Alling]

CD's are a plastic plate, a foil, (recording material), and a lacquer 
coating.  They are surprisingly easy to delaminate.  If you consider the 
label then the paint, adds to the protection, but not much.

Axel Belinfante wrote:
> I thought I had heard/read that the encoding for CD
> was more robust than for DVD (more redundancy in the
> case of CD, which would give you better chance to be
> able to read your data in case of bit rot on the medium). 
>
> don't know how much of this is true.
>
> Axel.
>
>   
>> DVDs are structurally sounder than CDs.  Based on that I'd say the 
>> opposite is true.
>>
>> John Graves wrote:
>> 
>>> I just wrote my 2007 Picture folder to a DVD.  It took about 3.5 Gb and 
>>> there is space left.   H. Not enough pictures.
>>>
>>> I remember reading somewhere that CD's will outlive DVD's .  Is this 
>>> still true?  Does anyone have any idea about the guesstimated lifetime 
>>> for a CD vs a DVD?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> John G.
>>> WA1JG
>>>   
>
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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Brendan MacRae]

--- Paul Crovella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Geez, you're right. It's a wonder they ever even
> went digital at all.
> 

It's only a wonder if you agree that wired image
transfer to WiFi transfer will bring about the same
sea change as film to digital certainly has.

I don't. But, perhaps I'm just not a prescient as many
others on this list. Or, maybe I'm just a lot more
skeptical.

-Brendan

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Re: No microfiber lens cloth for me!

[Christian]

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
>> Cryptic subject line, eh?
>>
>> Can't say more right now but I'll reveal the meaning shortly. :-)
> 
> Here's the deal:
> I was convinced I was going to end up with one of the "consolation 
> prizes", a microfiber lens cloth. 
> Not so:
> http://www.sigmaphoto.com/contest/winners_summerdreams.asp
> 
> I'm chuffed. :)
> 
> 
> 

Nice image. CONGRATS!

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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Tom C]

>"Most Pros' are going to be running higher-end CaNikon gear, which already 
>has WiFi capabilities. >This is the card for the rare few who use Pentax or 
>Panasonic mid-range kit (or those running low->end kit).
>
>-Adam

How dare you!

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Re: OT- PC, Photoshop, and RAID Decisions, Decisions

[P. J. Alling]

She looks like she can chew up nails and spit them out as bullets...

Cotty wrote:
> On 02/11/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> On a happy note:  I just took delivery of a beautiful 580EX to replace 
>> my dead Smegma 500.   m shiny, new flash.
>> 
>
> Ooooh. I've had mine for a while now - still haven't figured it out. I
> hate flash. I stick the camera on manual, 1/250th and f8 and the flash
> is spot-on every time, direct or bounced. You'll really want one of
> these next :-)
>
> 
>
> The battery, no the girl. She has mad eyes.
>
>   


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Re: For those who miss CaNikon's Wifi capabilities

[Brendan MacRae]

Oh, P.J., we're wy past that at this point! Take a
look at some prior posts.

:-]

-Brendan
--- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> While everybody's arguing about the desirability of
> this capability 
> maybe they should read the dpReview the product,
> that Thibouille posted 
> not too long ago.  It hardly looks earth shattering
> in it's capabilities.
> 
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/eye-fi/
> 
> 
> John Sessoms wrote:
> > From: "Tom C"
> >
> >   
> >> Sure it's hypothetical... but obviously there is
> enough of a market
> >> for the technology to develop it.  :-)
> >> 
> >
> > Unless it's like the LASER ... spent the first 15
> - 20 years after it 
> > was invented as "a solution in search of a
> problem." A lot of modern 
> > technology seems to be that way.
> >
> > Invent it, develop it, and *then* figure out what
> you can use it for.
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> -- 
> The difference between individual intelligence and
> group intelligence is the difference between Harvard
> University and the Harvard University football team.
> 
>   -- P. J. O'Roark
> 
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Re: AP Top News Photos

[Boris Liberman]

I humbly disagree with you, Marnie, and with you, Bob.

Indeed, good news coverage is a honorable and valuable profession and 
service. However, there is much more to life than what 99% of the news 
is about. Modern news are not about news, they are about rating. Or at 
least so I think.

Your mileage of course should be different than mine.

Boris


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Re: shutter count

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

This is true for all flash media volumes.

Format deletes and initializes the FAT (or FAT32) directory table. It  
might also do a consistency check on blocks in the volume and adjust  
the directory table to compensate for bad blocks, but I don't know if  
anyone has actually implemented doing that in a camera. It does NOT  
do anything to overwrite or zero the actual data bits on the volume.  
Format, since it re-writes the file directory tables, is useful to  
eliminate any possibly corrupted directory information.

Delete All individually does a delete operation on a per-file  
basis ... this means removing the file from the FAT directory table,  
one at a time, NOT overwriting or zeroing the actual data bits on the  
volume either. It honors "protect" attributes you might have set on  
files, so if you do a Delete All on a card with 200 files, 10 of  
which had a Protect setting, the card will have those 10 files on it  
after the operation is complete. This is useful now and then when  
you're running out of card storage but need to preserve some captures  
on the card.

Which one is best to use depends on what you're trying to do. If the  
goal is simply clearing the card and you don't care about protect  
settings, they work about the same.

Godfrey


On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:29 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> The way sd cards work it really makes no difference.  Both just re- 
> write
> the directory structure.  The data will still remain.  The read/write
> memory of the cards has a finite number of writes.  In fact erasing  
> the
> files might even be better since the whole directory structure doesn't
> have to be rewritten.
>
> Peter Fairweather wrote:
>>  I do wonder whether formatting the card each time is better than  
>> deleting all.


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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[Brendan MacRae]

--- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Life's little Irony, I'm primarily a film shooter.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> 

lol!

;-]

-Brendan

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Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brendan MacRae" Subject: Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.


>> Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers.
> Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such
> situations back when we all shot film ?
>
>

I used to have as many as 4 cameras loaded and ready to go before a wedding
ceremony.
Having said that, the expectations on photographers have changed as fast, or
faster, than the technology that we use has changed.
Customers are far less forgiving now than they were a decade ago and are 
demanding services now that were not possible a decade ago.

William Robb


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Re: Replacement hoods in Europe ??

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I'm sure someone distributes B+W metal, screw-in lens hoods in  
Europe. See the Schneider website:
   http://www.schneideroptics.com/

Same for Kalt brand, possibly others.

G

On Nov 2, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Thibouille wrote:

> I'd like to find a source for hoods in Europe.
> I know BH etc do have some but I'll never play with import taxes and
> shipping rates just for hoods.
>
> Any online shop where there'd be nice choice? I don't like rubber hood
> much and would prefer plastic or (if possible) metal hoods.


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Re: OT: Storing/Backing Up Images

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

make prints with archival ink on good paper, store them properly ...

G


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Cosina lenses for Pentax KA mount

[pnstenquist]

Somewhat useful: A faster pancake 40 and a 58/1.4. That's probably a better 
portrait lens on APS-C than the FA 50/1.4 — at least in terms of FOV.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0711/07110201voigtlander.asp

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Re: shutter count

[John Sessoms]

From: Igor Roshchin

> This is regarding formatting the card in the camera vs. erasing images.
> 
> A while ago, I've seen recommendations that formatting the card
> in the camera every so often helps avoiding problems with
> the file system.
> I have not seen any arguments about that, and cannot say for sure
> if it is true or not with the modern flash cards.
> 
> [speculation on]
> I do not know the design of the flash memory as intimately as that of
> some magnetic memories. So I am not sure (and it may depend on 
> the card implementation [?])
> - whether there is any type of "toggle-reset" of the cells during 
> the format, one that can decrease probability of the charge leakage
> from the particular cell, hence improving retaining capabilities.
> 
> Also, I am not sure if any check of the cells during format is
> implemented; such that would allow marking bad cells (like bad 
> sectors in HDDs).  Probably not...
> [speculation off]

I dunno. I format because it takes me less time and effort than erasing.

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For Sale/Trade Friday

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Having bought a rather excellent flash from a fellow list member, I have 
now Pentax AF220T that I don't seem to need any longer. It is in 
excellent shape with its original pouch.

Also I have the single element soft focus lens and assorted Cokin-A 
filters for you to grab.

If you're interested in any of these, please let me know. We can arrange 
for something mutually convenient.

Thanks.

Boris

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Re: Cosina lenses for Pentax KA mount

[Adam Maas]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Somewhat useful: A faster pancake 40 and a 58/1.4. That's probably a better 
> portrait lens on APS-C than the FA 50/1.4 — at least in terms of FOV.
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0711/07110201voigtlander.asp
> 
> 

Interesting, although I don't like 40mm on the crop bodies. The larger size and 
extra speed make this one likely a better choice than the DA 40 Limited (which 
is too damned small IMHO).

The 58/1.4 is very interesting. The design is legendary, the run they did a few 
years back in F mount sold out very quick and the lenses are sought after. And 
if it beats the DA* 55 to market, it may sell very well as a portrait prime 
(being 87mm-e)

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FS Friday: FA 80-200 mm 2.8

[Carlos Royo]

I have already sold the FA* 24 mm. 2.0, but I still have the FA* 80-200 
mm. 2.8 and have reduced the price again.

FA 80-200 mm. 2.8 LN- (almost like new), boxed, with its original Pentax
pouch and pouch strap, front and back caps and original lenshood. It's
only got a small blemish: between the first and second element, it has a
very small hazy spot only visible at a certain angle, which doesn't
affect the quality of the pictures at all. I took it to my usual repair
shop, and they said it wasn't fungus and it wasn't worth opening the
lens to clean such a small spot. They also said that special tooling was
needed to open the lens in case I wanted to have it cleaned and it
should be sent to an official Pentax service centre. I can send photos 
of the lens to prospective buyers. Price: now 1250 euros plus shipping 
expenses.

I am the original owner of this lens.

If you are interested in it, please send a message to my email box, not 
the list. Shipping expenses are not included in the price.

Thank you for your attention.

Carlos










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Re: [Rumours] Pentax may offer a relatively high fps camera

[John Sessoms]

From: Adam Maas

> DSLR's have been used to shoot at least one feature movie so far (Tim 
> Burton's Corpse Bride). 

If memory serves, most of the really cool "bullet time" special effects 
for "The Matrix" was shot using arrays of darkside FILM SLRs.

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Re: PESO (sorta) Product Photography

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/2/2007 9:29:35 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey, gang.

About a  year and a half ago I made some photographs of pottery for the 
mother of a  co-worker.  I delivered about 70 photos and really didn't 
hear much  back about after that.  Her intention was to get them on a web 
site and  start an "e-tail" business.  It looks now like she's finally 
getting  something together.  I recently spoke with her son, Ben (my 
former  co-worker), and he said she wanted some more photos and a 
portrait for the  site.  I guess he's in the process of building a better 
gallery and  implementing a shopping cart.

Anyway, http://www.twinmoonpottery.com/ is  the site, and all the photos 
on the index page are mine.  (The photos  in the gallery are not.)  The 
only digital camera I had available at  the time was the 750z.  Shots 
were rather wide, to allow for some  cropping, and all were lit with a 
pair of daylight balanced fluorescent  bulbs in Home Depot clip-on shop 
lights.  (The bulbs now reside over my  bathroom sink.)  Ben has done 
some very liberal cropping and I think  they don't look too bad.

Any and all opinions are most  welcome.

===
Looks good, Scott. Site is pretty attractive.  Hope she has luck with that.

She should have had you take the gallery  shots too. They aren't nearly as 
good. Heh.

Only thing is there should  also be a white border on the bottom, so bottom 
photo is not cut off -- in my  browser not getting one. Just feels sort of 
funny, but no biggie.

Marnie  aka Doe 

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