Re: It's here and it's humbling

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 7/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:



Cotty, did yours have a return to address in Switzerland?  I was quite
suprised at that - when I finally remembered to look at the paperwork.



Ack, I didn't look - I assumed it came from the USA.


Me too, until I happened to glance at the enclosed paperwork and spotted 
a return address.  Interesting to see if there are any quality 
differences between a US and a Europe copy.


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Re: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

tim...@clancode.hu wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3334561655/

Took on the airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane :)

Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes? :D


Once you've settled, get in touch and we'll arrange to meet in a more 
pleasant environment. 8-)


There will be a small PDML gathering here (northern England) the week 
before Easter.


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OT PESO (Sorta') - New Day

2009-03-08 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

A group of friends got together for a movie marathon/sleep over at an
art space on of them manages. The last movie finished at about 4:30am
me and another guy weren't tired so we went  wandered the streets
taking photos for an hour or so. Interesting time to be in the
Saturday night party district. The time when the hardcore revellers
are winding down  the cities cleaning crew get started.

Anywho, when we got back my mate was tired  crashed. Leaving me to
amuse myself.

Today, I finally got around to putting a sequence of shots I took into
a short movie.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3336228609/

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Unsurprising sadness

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Graydon wrote:


On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:40:32PM +, mike wilson scripsit:


The ribbon cable part of the integrated electronic might be slightly
problematic but, really, if you gave the average person a gear wheel
or a piece of electronic whizzery and asked them to make you a couple
of hundred of each themself would their reaction be any different?
Both require people with specialist skills and equipment. By far the
hardest part of the electronics to reproduce is the code. Everything
else is rattled off production lines in factories by the bucketfull.



This year's ICs are, yes; those from five years ago, not so much, those
from 10 years ago, hardly at all.

What digital really means is that all the complexity that used to live
in the chemical plant that made the film has moved into the camera.


We are not so much talking about digital versus film as purely 
mechanical cameras versus electro-mechanical ones.




Any give camera represents a very specific slice through the state of
the technology; a custom image engine chip on a custom PCB (printed
circuit board) with a funny shape, done to whatever process would do the
job and was cheapest at the time.  There isn't any way anybody is going
to replicate that on a hobby basis.  (Military procurement sometimes
gets stuck trying to do that, and it functions even more like lighting
bushels of money on fire than military procurement usually does.)

So I really doubt there's going to be a small-shop digital camera
rebuild business going; if the tech gets good enough that this is
physical possible at all (put copper wire, sand, and random bits of junk
in the fabber, get ICs out, tech) the small shop guys will be
custom-making cameras for the retro crowd who hate the idea of having
recorders on their optic nerves.


Leaving fantasy aside...   I'm not sure I agree with you.  The rebuild 
business will undoubtedly be small scale.  It's the production of spare 
parts that will have to be significantly larger, both to provide for a 
market of numerous small scale workshops and to meet the demands of a 
producer requiring significant production runs.  On the purely physical 
side of the electronic spare part, the only part that is likely specific 
to that particular part is the shape of the ribbon cable bit.  All the 
rest will be standard electronic parts.  If you have a pattern, or the 
file needed for setup of the machine, it would be very easy to set up 
for a run of parts.  Ask the people who are doing this for a living, 
commonly known as pirates these days.  Possibly the hardest bit will be 
reverse engineering the code to go in the chips.  All of this assuming 
that there is a viable market and the intellectual copyright holder is 
in agreement or it has lapsed.



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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread David Savage
2009/3/8 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it:
 Tim Bray wrote:

 The balance of the Universe requires that somewhere out there is an
 antiCotty who hated every picture in there.

 Mark!

No, I don't think it was Mark.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

Go and stand over there, next to Juan Buhler. 


That's probably the best nature gallery I've seen on PDML. Quite stunning.
It could probably lose half a dozen to 10 pictures to make it even better,
but it's really quite superb as a whole.

Bob 




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Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/



Seconded.  If you do that just for fun, I think I would be scared to see 
your serious photography.


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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/annual.html

Enjoy :-)

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Getting lively here, too.  Off to the beach shortly.

Thanks for the kind words.  You hit the nails right on the heads.

WRT Jostein's Nylons picture, many of the nests seen are constructed 
out of plastic netting and line.  It's a savage criticism of mankind's 
abuse of the natural world, combined with a rosy look at how nature 
copes with our intrusion.  Or something.  Not that I'm putting words 
into Josteins art, you understand.


BTW.  I have seen some of the pictures before, posted to the list.  All 
appear _much_ better on the printed page.  Particularly Bill Robb's 
sunken bicycle.


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RE: OT PESO (Sorta') - New Day

2009-03-08 Thread Bob W
 
 G'day All,
 
 A group of friends got together for a movie marathon/sleep over at an
 art space on of them manages. The last movie finished at about 4:30am
 me and another guy weren't tired so we went  wandered the streets
 taking photos for an hour or so. Interesting time to be in the
 Saturday night party district. The time when the hardcore revellers
 are winding down  the cities cleaning crew get started.
 
 Anywho, when we got back my mate was tired  crashed. Leaving me to
 amuse myself.
 
 Today, I finally got around to putting a sequence of shots I took into
 a short movie.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3336228609/
 
 Enjoy.
 

Sauvage, fauve, wild, Wildean. Just as Godard deconstructed narrative within
the confines of neo-spatial preconceptualism, so Savage examines the world
of 'espace nouvelle' outwith the notions of Oz and the tradition of the
fauves, amusingly relocated to the arena of antipodeanism. Playing jeux
d'esprit with nomenclature and the functional, self-identifying namespace,
Savage follows Wilde in the witty juxaposition of 'parole' versus auteur to
analyse subcultural rationalism and to challenge Baudrillard's previously
unchallengeable subpatriarchal determinism in ways that anticipate
newly-gendered futurist paradigms.

Bob


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RE: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

2009-03-08 Thread Bob W
 
 tim...@clancode.hu wrote:
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3334561655/
  
  Took on the airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane :)
  
  Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes? :D
 
 Once you've settled, get in touch and we'll arrange to meet in a more 
 pleasant environment. 8-)
 
 There will be a small PDML gathering here (northern England) the week 
 before Easter.
 

What dates, and where? I am busy the weekend before Easter, but if it's some
other time I could try and get to it. Otherwise my preference would be for
an Oxford meet-up, but I will bow to the wishes of our visitors if they
prefer London.

Bob


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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Dario Bonazza

David Savage wrote:


2009/3/8 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it:

Tim Bray wrote:


The balance of the Universe requires that somewhere out there is an
antiCotty who hated every picture in there.


Mark!


No, I don't think it was Mark.


LOL

Dario (still looking for the antiCotty)

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Re: It's here and it's humbling

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Me too, until I happened to glance at the enclosed paperwork and spotted
a return address.  Interesting to see if there are any quality
differences between a US and a Europe copy.

Well, mine has a ticking sound coming from it

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Re: OT PESO (Sorta') - New Day

2009-03-08 Thread David Savage
2009/3/8 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 G'day All,

 A group of friends got together for a movie marathon/sleep over at an
 art space on of them manages. The last movie finished at about 4:30am
 me and another guy weren't tired so we went  wandered the streets
 taking photos for an hour or so. Interesting time to be in the
 Saturday night party district. The time when the hardcore revellers
 are winding down  the cities cleaning crew get started.

 Anywho, when we got back my mate was tired  crashed. Leaving me to
 amuse myself.

 Today, I finally got around to putting a sequence of shots I took into
 a short movie.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3336228609/

 Enjoy.


 Sauvage, fauve, wild, Wildean. Just as Godard deconstructed narrative within
 the confines of neo-spatial preconceptualism, so Savage examines the world
 of 'espace nouvelle' outwith the notions of Oz and the tradition of the
 fauves, amusingly relocated to the arena of antipodeanism. Playing jeux
 d'esprit with nomenclature and the functional, self-identifying namespace,
 Savage follows Wilde in the witty juxaposition of 'parole' versus auteur to
 analyse subcultural rationalism and to challenge Baudrillard's previously
 unchallengeable subpatriarchal determinism in ways that anticipate
 newly-gendered futurist paradigms.

Bob gets where I'm coming from.

LOL

DS

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/3/09, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

The strong diagonal of the man-made bridge slashing across the
verdant natural scene, the guy wires struggling to hold the bridge
from taking flight, bring to mind the existential questions so often
raised by this internationally acclaimed photographer in his search
for truth and the meaning of life.

Slashing - great word thanks ;-)

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

A contrast between the rugged beauty of the natural world and the stark
form of an engineered structure.  The image is dominated by large
natural rock outcrops which loom menacingly from the left and by the
large turnbuckle and spring that dominates the foreground. Above, the
suspension bridge leads the eye into the forest, in much the same way as
it leads the walker further up the mountain.

The muted colour palette suits the nature of this unusual composition
that works wonderfully well.

The photographer is far too hard on himself!

Thanks Brian, I like that word - dominating :-)

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/3/09, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed:

The effort is much appreciated.  The balance of the Universe requires
that somewhere out there is an antiCotty who hated every picture in
there. -T

I used to be able to do an anitCotty but someone nicked me falsies :-)

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/3/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

To be willing to spend a good ten hours or so to review each and every
photograph with a thoughtful eye so willing to find virtue and so willing to
express with such eloquent words requires a big heart and a generous
soul--which you clearly have in abundance, Cotty.   The world could use more
folks like you.  It would be a kinder and happier place.

That's very kind of you to say Christine.

I can remember the feeling I got when I posted my first pic for folk to
look at, I think it was in the days before PESO. It was a bit like
launching a rocket - head down as you did the deed, then wait for the
dust to clear to see what impact it had. Then one or two comments would
return, and it was a thrill.

I found the book to be such a landmark for us as a group, and the
comments that i have seen since have (rightly) reflected well on its
production, but few actual remarks as to the brilliance of the
photographs inside it. I know how satisfying it is to receive praise,
and so I thought I would put something back into the group.

Not that I would lavish praise just for the sake of it - I truly believe
that every picture deserves to be in that book. It's a real triumph of
achievement when you think that it was put together by people sitting at
computers in different parts of the world, out doing what they enjoy.
Another small chapter in the evolution of the world wide web.

Now if only I can get that on film :-)

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

WRT Jostein's Nylons picture, many of the nests seen are constructed
out of plastic netting and line.  It's a savage criticism of mankind's
abuse of the natural world, combined with a rosy look at how nature
copes with our intrusion.  Or something.  Not that I'm putting words
into Josteins art, you understand.

I did notice some of the detritus but thought it was too subtle to be
what Jostein meant - Norwegians tend to do things on grand scales (q.v.
fiddly bits ;)  thanks for that.


BTW.  I have seen some of the pictures before, posted to the list.  All
appear _much_ better on the printed page.  Particularly Bill Robb's
sunken bicycle.

I have to agree - much better. Computer screens are good but the printed
page still holds the edge in photography.



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Re: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

There will be a small PDML gathering here (northern England) the week
before Easter.

Cheeky. Do tell :-)

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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Toine, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/

Toine

Stunning work!

(Toine are you in the Netherlands? Be a lad and if you see any nice
barges grab a shot or two will you? I love Dutch barges :-)

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RE: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Bob W
[...]
 Not that I would lavish praise just for the sake of it - I 
 truly believe
 that every picture deserves to be in that book. It's a real triumph of
 achievement when you think that it was put together by people 
 sitting at
 computers in different parts of the world, out doing what they enjoy.
 Another small chapter in the evolution of the world wide web.
 
 Now if only I can get that on film :-)
 
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 Cheers,
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I've just ordered a copy on fancy paper, so it had better be as good as you
say or I'll come round and nail you to the floorboards.

Bob


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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/3/8 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

 Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/annual.html

 Enjoy :-)

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I haven't read it in details yet. I'll wait till the book turns up.

But thanks a lot. I'm really looking forward to it. A guided tour to
paradise :-)

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Subash
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:26:50 -
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 [...]
  Not that I would lavish praise just for the sake of it - I 
  truly believe
  that every picture deserves to be in that book. It's a real triumph
  of achievement when you think that it was put together by people 
  sitting at
  computers in different parts of the world, out doing what they
  enjoy. Another small chapter in the evolution of the world wide web.
  
  Now if only I can get that on film :-)
  
  --
  
  
  Cheers,
Cotty
 
 I've just ordered a copy on fancy paper, so it had better be as good
 as you say or I'll come round and nail you to the floorboards.

and if it is not as good he says it is, we get to have a
post-structuralist, derridaesque, post-modernist critique of the
trajectory of evolving, gendered and smug internationalism on the web
seen from the interstices of the post-empire... and cotty too gets
thrown in somewhere there... 
;-)

regards, subash

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PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread DagT

No Pentax content, but here it is:
http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/441000-441999/441759_1280x1024.jpg

Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm f/4.5, Ilford HP5+, Epson V700.

Comments are welcome!

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks for your review Cotty.
A very good read.

And, thanks for the favorable comments for moi.:-)

Dave

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

 Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/annual.html

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Re: PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Page not found.

Dave

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:28 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 No Pentax content, but here it is:
 http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/441000-441999/441759_1280x1024.jpg

 Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm f/4.5, Ilford HP5+, Epson V700.

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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 I love Dutch barges :-)

I bet you say that to all the barges.:-)

A very nice gallery Toine.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've just ordered a copy on fancy paper, so it had better be as good as you
say or I'll come round and nail you to the floorboards.

Better yet - you had better beg, borrow or steal some Pentax gear so you
can be included next year. How about a short fast lens for that M8? I've
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Re: PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed:

No Pentax content, but here it is:
http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/
441000-441999/441759_1280x1024.jpg

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed:

and if it is not as good he says it is, we get to have a
post-structuralist, derridaesque, post-modernist critique of the
trajectory of evolving, gendered and smug internationalism on the web
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Re: PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Ok, now it will load.

Great shot, love the in focus hands and surreal feel to it with the
ice and face.

Dave

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 No Pentax content, but here it is:
 http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/441000-441999/441759_1280x1024.jpg

 Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm f/4.5, Ilford HP5+, Epson V700.

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PESO: Church tower

2009-03-08 Thread Nick Wright
Here's another PESO:
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Re: PESO - Shell and Pebbles

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
I like the texture and DOF with this one Rick.

Dave

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 Another from the beach at Hammonassett State Park in Connecticut:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8665274size=lg

 (K10D and DA 50-200).

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Re: DA*60-250

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Frits Wüthrich fritswuthr...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Yes, on eBay, but for about $1700 or more.
 I see a Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 SP Di-LD for 599 euro,
 and a Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG APO HSM for 659 euro, this lens has
 hypersonic drive.

 Anyone that has experience with either one of these?

I know you are referring to the 80-200 here for $1700, but for that
money, i can get a D300 and drip, and use lenses i already have.:--)
I hear the 60-250 will sell around $1200-1300, some were around there.
I think that's to much, considering i can now get a 50-135 for less
than 1K here.

Dave

 Frits

 Stan Halpin wrote:

 Reading the tea leaves and other cryptic signs on the USA Pentax site:

 55/1.4 is shown as New/Buy It Now;
 15/4.4 is shown as Coming Soon
 60-250/ is shown.

 There is an 80-200/2.8 on eBay right now...

 stan

 On Mar 2, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 Latest hint from Pentax is late spring 2009 - production problems


 On Mar 2, 2009, at 15:30 , Frits Wüthrich wrote:

 Is there any news about the availability of this lens? I pre ordered
 with TeKaDe, it was suppose to arrive around Christmas, de price has gone
 down in the mean time, and TeKaDe has no idea when the lens will arrive. I
 wonder if I should go for another lens, Tamron or Tokina, don't know who 
 has
 a nice alternative.

 Frits

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Re: DA*60-250

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:55 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 D300 and drip,

D300 and grip.

Go for it lads.:-)

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
n

 1997 was the last time i received a refund.



 But when's the last time you filed?

I have to send something in every year.??

Must have missed that memo.:-)

Dave


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Re: PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread DagT

Strange, it works here.

Heres an alternative link:
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bilder/vis_bilde.cgi?id=441759

DagT

Den 8. mars. 2009 kl. 13.36 skrev David J Brooks:


Page not found.

Dave

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:28 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:

No Pentax content, but here it is:
http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/441000-441999/441759_1280x1024.jpg

Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm f/4.5, Ilford HP5+, Epson V700.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Jack Davis

Am truly honored by your comments, Cotty. Please accept my sincere thanks.
You write 'pretty'. :)

Jack
 


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 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 6:03 PM
 A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or
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 Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:
 
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Re: First real workout of the K20

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Don't feel to bad, I have been using digital cameras since 1997, and
still have trouble figuring stuff out.

Want proof, read some of my old posts.:-)

One thing i have learned, and it cost me a lot of money to find this
out, is one camera cannot do all of what i want, so I'm a two system
shooter now.
My D1, D1H and D2h are all better for my equine work. That is not to
say the K10D does not work, it does, but the other cameras do a better
job in AF and buffer, etc.

For flash work, the D200 and SB800 flash is the one for me.

For rural landscapes, K10D or D200, both work well.

Once you knwo what the limits are and work around's for them, you'll be fine.

Dave

Dave

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 Review.

 I'll save bandwidth and just post a pointer for those that are
 interested:
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036message=31233419

 The short form is:

 I still have a lot to learn both intellectually and kinestheticly (my
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Re: PESO: Church tower

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
I like the angle this was shot at, but it looks a bit flat to me.
Is this a scan or digital conversion.?

Dave

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 Here's another PESO:
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Re: PESO: Church tower

2009-03-08 Thread Nick Wright
This is a crappy walmart scan from film.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:08 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like the angle this was shot at, but it looks a bit flat to me.
 Is this a scan or digital conversion.?

 Dave

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Re: PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread Adam Maas
Excellent! Love the tones here and a great portrait.

-Adam

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 Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm f/4.5, Ilford HP5+, Epson V700.

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PESO: Can't post to the list, Prague, Puerto Vallarta, Better beamer.

2009-03-08 Thread Gae‘tan Beauchamp
Hello everyone. I just can't post to the list. I receive well for sure. 
See below. I don't understand why all this is happening. Perhaps this 
one will make it. So here are my previous ones:
1) Did someone ever use a better beamer with a Pentax flash AF 540? Is 
it really working? I suppose that you have to be close to your subject 
(lets say 20 feet), isn't?
Other question: what are must places for photos around Puerto Vallarta 
Mexico?
2) Is it normal to receive more than 20 posts a day from the list? I 
made the choice to receive the digest mode . Am I doing something wrong 
? Is the list always fonctional? How come some of my posts don't go 
through and that I don't reveive a post acknowlegement message everytime 
I am sending a message? What are the rules to follow for sending post to 
the list? Does the list reject some posts?

3) Correct link to Prague photos
http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=898729 Thank you Mr Brian 
Walters for indicating me a bad web link. And to answer your question, 
the guy with a red jacket and amonkey is begging, playing music to the 
crowd and selling cards if I remember well.
4) Finally, here are some other pictures of Prague, a very nice trip 
that we made my wife and me in July 2008. I took several pictures of all 
those beautiful architectural ornaments, of the open places so 
particular in Europe. I took also several pictures of St-Nicolas church, 
of the painting as well. All taken with a Pentax K20D, with a 200 mm 
lens for the most part.

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Re: PESO: Can't post to the list, Prague, Puerto Vallarta, Better beamer.

2009-03-08 Thread David Savage
2009/3/8 Gae‘tan Beauchamp li...@gaetanbeauchamp.ca:
 Hello everyone. I just can't post to the list. I receive well for sure. See
 below. I don't understand why all this is happening. Perhaps this one will
 make it.

Messages must be plain text only. If you use HTML formatting for
emails they won't get through.

Yes, this list is very functional, in a dysfunctional way.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Can't post to the list, Prague, Puerto Vallarta, Better beamer.

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Gae?tan Beauchamp, discombobulated, unleashed:

Is it normal to receive more than 20 posts a day from the list?

Oh my god. MARK.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Mark Roberts

Subash wrote:


and if it is not as good he says it is, we get to have a
post-structuralist, derridaesque, post-modernist critique of the
trajectory of evolving, gendered and smug internationalism on the web
seen from the interstices of the post-empire... and cotty too gets
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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Dario (still looking for the antiCotty)

Just look for the goatee.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread David Savage
2009/3/8 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com:
 On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it 
 wrote:

 Dario (still looking for the antiCotty)

 Just look for the goatee.

Doesn't Doug have a goatee?

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:28 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 BTW.  I have seen some of the pictures before, posted to the list.  All
 appear _much_ better on the printed page.  Particularly Bill Robb's sunken
 bicycle.

I had the same thought... reluctantly, because I rarely print my own
work these days (and don't have a suitable printer to do it myself).
I dislike the clutter of having physical prints around, with their
frames or boxes or whatever, but I have to admit the results are nice.

And thanks, Cotty, for your thorough and enjoyably-written review,
even if it was a bit charitable toward my own work.  I've made a quick
pass through it, but look forward to sitting down with it and going
through it one-by-one.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Subash
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:02:46 -0400
Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:

 Subash wrote:
  
  and if it is not as good he says it is, we get to have a
  post-structuralist, derridaesque, post-modernist critique of the
  trajectory of evolving, gendered and smug internationalism on the
  web seen from the interstices of the post-empire... and cotty too
  gets thrown in somewhere there... 
  ;-)
 
 
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that is absolutely hilarious. :-)) am bookmarking it. i wonder if one
can generate an entire thesis using thatthat would explain many
things... :)

regards, subash

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Mark Roberts

Cotty wrote:

A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/annual.html

Enjoy :-)


Great job, Cotty. Thanks for going to all the trouble of doing such a 
detailed write-up. You're a veritable Doug Brewer with prose. Just use 
more commas and you'll be right there! (If you don't have any estra ones 
lying around I think I have a few dozen left over ones that I excised 
from Doug's Foreword.)



Cheers,
  Cotty at 2am on a stormy night


You mean a dark and stormy night, surely?




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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

You're a veritable Doug Brewer with prose.

Now steady on lad.

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Book review

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty Cottington
They all suck.  Except that one photo by Cotty, which is the best
photo ever taken by anyone anywhere ever.

Baldingly yours,
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Re: Book review

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Cotty Cottington, discombobulated, unleashed:

They all suck.  Except that one photo by Cotty, which is the best
photo ever taken by anyone anywhere ever.

Baldingly yours,
antiCotty

You had to use gmail just to rub in the salt didn't you.

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Re: Book review

2009-03-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/3/8 Cotty Cottington antico...@gmail.com:
 They all suck.  Except that one photo by Cotty, which is the best
 photo ever taken by anyone anywhere ever.

 Baldingly yours,
 antiCotty


Gee, - mail from a new comer.
Welcome.  Pull out s stool. You will fit right in.
Don't believe a word Cotty says.

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Re: Book review

2009-03-08 Thread timber
Reading your letter, for a second I tought Cotty is Ken Rockwell, the
Chuck Norris of Photography. :)

.t

Ps.: Do we really have to act as c***nians? I like Pentax because
pentaxians are different...


 They all suck.  Except that one photo by Cotty, which is the best
 photo ever taken by anyone anywhere ever.

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Re: Airport miniautre like :)

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Timber:  You know, I like it.  I like the dark ground and clouds and I 
like where the light is--spot lighted on WizzAir.  Funny name:  Take 
WizzAir--to take a wizz state side could also mean to take a pee as in I'm 
going to the bathroom to wizz.  :-)  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: tim...@clancode.hu

To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:10 AM
Subject: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)



http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3334561655/

Took on the airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane :)

Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes? :D

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Re: Book review

2009-03-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

I'm glad my aunty isn't six foot five driving a Land Rover.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Cotty Cottington antico...@gmail.com  
wrote:



They all suck.  Except that one photo by Cotty, which is the best
photo ever taken by anyone anywhere ever.

Baldingly yours,
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Re: OT PESO (Sorta') - New Day

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila

Hi Dave:  A short, quietly sweet piece.  Love the music.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:37 AM
Subject: OT PESO (Sorta') - New Day



G'day All,

A group of friends got together for a movie marathon/sleep over at an
art space on of them manages. The last movie finished at about 4:30am
me and another guy weren't tired so we went  wandered the streets
taking photos for an hour or so. Interesting time to be in the
Saturday night party district. The time when the hardcore revellers
are winding down  the cities cleaning crew get started.

Anywho, when we got back my mate was tired  crashed. Leaving me to
amuse myself.

Today, I finally got around to putting a sequence of shots I took into
a short movie.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3336228609/

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Doug Brewer

Mark Roberts wrote:

 You're a veritable Doug Brewer with prose.

oh, hey, he's done a good thing and you've gone and insulted him.

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Re: Transform

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks for posting.  I enjoyed this very much.  cheers, Christine


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Subject: OT: Transform



http://www.zarias.com/?p=284

Cheers,

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Re: Pentax DA 14mm

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee




Christine,

come change to Estonia - every Pentax original lens (including fix lenses) 
is freely available. Boring, isn't it? :)



Ah, if I could only do my brick and mortar shopping in Estonia.  Go Estonia! 
Cheers, Christine 




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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Mark Roberts

Doug Brewer wrote:

Mark Roberts wrote:

 You're a veritable Doug Brewer with prose.

oh, hey, he's done a good thing and you've gone and insulted him.


You're underestimating yourself. Anyone who gets seduced by Russian 
ichthyologists can't be too bad.

(http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=987)



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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Toine jack.isid...@gmail.com




Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/



Wonderful gallery: some favs:  14, 33, 35, 37, 38, 48,  49

Didn't you post 39 before?

Anyway, lovely, just lovely.
cheers, Christine


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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila


From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com


Being a Chicagoan, I've grown up with LSD.


Ummm. Huh?  Um   What? Umm  Oh, me too!   U   I  think. 
Whoa!  What the hell was that!


Trails, man.  Twisty, curvey trails, up and down, splash, splash.  Faster 
you go, the more blur you see.  Free--bloody freeken free--trails, wind in 
your hair, trails, man.  Twisty, curvey trails.   Christine




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Re: Spring Roll

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila

Another stunning spring harbinger!  Great shot, Paul  Cheers, Christine


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From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

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Subject: PESO: Spring Roll



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8673718size=lg



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Re: PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila

Neat.  Gritty, edgy, fun idea.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: DagT li...@thrane.name

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:28 AM
Subject: PESO - ICE



No Pentax content, but here it is:
http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/441000-441999/441759_1280x1024.jpg

Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm f/4.5, Ilford HP5+, Epson V700.

Comments are welcome!

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Re: PESO - Shell and Pebbles

2009-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Rick, the texture in the sand is really great.  It would be amazing to see 
in print I bet.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com

To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: PESO - Shell and Pebbles




Another from the beach at Hammonassett State Park in Connecticut:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8665274size=lg

(K10D and DA 50-200).

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW




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Re: Book review

2009-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist


On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:48 AM, tim...@clancode.hu wrote:


Reading your letter, for a second I tought Cotty is Ken Rockwell, the
Chuck Norris of Photography. :)

.t

Ps.: Do we really have to act as c***nians? I like Pentax because
pentaxians are different...


Only a few of us act like Canadians. The rest of us behave.
Paul



They all suck.  Except that one photo by Cotty, which is the best
photo ever taken by anyone anywhere ever.

Baldingly yours,
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Re: PESO: Can't post to the list, Prague, Puerto Vallarta, Better beamer.

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Gae‘tan Beauchamp
li...@gaetanbeauchamp.ca wrote:
What are the rules to follow for sending post to the list?

Rules, we don't need no stinking rules.

Does the list reject some posts?

Doug picks 1 out of every 100 and deletes them. But mainly Cotty's stuff.


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Re: Book review

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:48 AM, tim...@clancode.hu wrote:

 Reading your letter, for a second I tought Cotty is Ken Rockwell, the
 Chuck Norris of Photography. :)

 .t

 Ps.: Do we really have to act as c***nians? I like Pentax because
 pentaxians are different...

 Only a few of us act like Canadians. The rest of us behave.
 Paul

And in typical Canadian fashion, I will apologize for us.:-)

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Re: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

tim...@clancode.hu wrote:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3334561655/

Took on the airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane :)

Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes? :D


Once you've settled, get in touch and we'll arrange to meet in a more 
pleasant environment. 8-)


There will be a small PDML gathering here (northern England) the week 
before Easter.





What dates, and where? I am busy the weekend before Easter, but if it's some
other time I could try and get to it. Otherwise my preference would be for
an Oxford meet-up, but I will bow to the wishes of our visitors if they
prefer London.


Something like 5th to 11th April.  Based here but roving as far as the 
Lake District and Kielder (maybe Whitby), weather permitting.


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RE: PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread Bob W
 
 No Pentax content, but here it is:
 http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/441000-441999/44
 1759_1280x1024.jpg
 
 Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm f/4.5, Ilford HP5+, Epson V700.
 
 Comments are welcome!
 
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Very strong image. 

 


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Re: It's here and it's humbling

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 8/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:



Me too, until I happened to glance at the enclosed paperwork and spotted
a return address.  Interesting to see if there are any quality
differences between a US and a Europe copy.



Well, mine has a ticking sound coming from it


It's a beumb!

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RE: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Bob W
 
 I've just ordered a copy on fancy paper, so it had better be 
 as good as you
 say or I'll come round and nail you to the floorboards.
 
 Better yet - you had better beg, borrow or steal some Pentax 
 gear so you
 can be included next year. How about a short fast lens for 
 that M8? I've
 still got the Dremel.

I still have the MX and a 40mm f/2.8 lens.

Bob


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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/3/8 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com:
 On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it 
 wrote:

 Dario (still looking for the antiCotty)

 Just look for the goatee.

 Doesn't Doug have a goatee?

Nope, two chickens, laser pens and a dog, no goat.

Dave

 DS

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I've just ordered a copy on fancy paper, so it had better be
 as good as you
 say or I'll come round and nail you to the floorboards.

 Better yet - you had better beg, borrow or steal some Pentax
 gear so you
 can be included next year. How about a short fast lens for
 that M8? I've
 still got the Dremel.

 I still have the MX and a 40mm f/2.8 lens.

I keep the K10D next to the D200 in my camera bag. I hope that counts.

Dave

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 8/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:



WRT Jostein's Nylons picture, many of the nests seen are constructed
out of plastic netting and line.  It's a savage criticism of mankind's
abuse of the natural world, combined with a rosy look at how nature
copes with our intrusion.  Or something.  Not that I'm putting words
into Josteins art, you understand.



I did notice some of the detritus but thought it was too subtle to be
what Jostein meant - Norwegians tend to do things on grand scales (q.v.
fiddly bits ;)  thanks for that.



BTW.  I have seen some of the pictures before, posted to the list.  All
appear _much_ better on the printed page.  Particularly Bill Robb's
sunken bicycle.



I have to agree - much better. Computer screens are good but the printed
page still holds the edge in photography.


I still prefer projected slides for sheer magnificence.

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Re: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 8/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:



There will be a small PDML gathering here (northern England) the week
before Easter.



Cheeky. Do tell :-)


Nutty Norwegians, en masse.  Hammocks being slung from the rafters and 
new straw laid in the barn in preparation.  Having a bit of difficulty 
sourcing fresh whale - might have to make do with porpoise.


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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 8/3/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:



I've just ordered a copy on fancy paper, so it had better be as good as you
say or I'll come round and nail you to the floorboards.



Better yet - you had better beg, borrow or steal some Pentax gear so you
can be included next year. How about a short fast lens for that M8? I've
still got the Dremel.


Believe it or not but I have in my posession a number of Walkden 
photographs taken with Pentax equipment. Sadly, they were all done in 2006.


He'll just have to take the MX for a walk.

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Re: PESO - ICE

2009-03-08 Thread Sasha Sobol
Great shot!
I liked how the ice mask worked.

--Sasha

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 No Pentax content, but here it is:
 http://foto.no/linkeddata/bildekritikk/images/441000-441999/44
 1759_1280x1024.jpg

 Bronica SQ-A, PS 180mm f/4.5, Ilford HP5+, Epson V700.

 Comments are welcome!

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
you've done a great job cotty, i hope i'll have the book to see how do
the illustrations for your texts work :)
and thanks for the praise, hope my 'illustration' is really worth it.

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 Cotty wrote:

 On 8/3/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:


 I've just ordered a copy on fancy paper, so it had better be as good as
 you
 say or I'll come round and nail you to the floorboards.


 Better yet - you had better beg, borrow or steal some Pentax gear so you
 can be included next year. How about a short fast lens for that M8? I've
 still got the Dremel.

 Believe it or not but I have in my posession a number of Walkden photographs
 taken with Pentax equipment. Sadly, they were all done in 2006.

 He'll just have to take the MX for a walk.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Joseph Tainter
Cotty, I don't know what moved you to do this review, but it is a 
tremendous effort. You do this so well.


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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Mar 8, 2009, at 04:03 , Cotty wrote:


On 7/3/09, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:


The strong diagonal of the man-made bridge slashing across the
verdant natural scene, the guy wires struggling to hold the bridge
from taking flight, bring to mind the existential questions so often
raised by this internationally acclaimed photographer in his search
for truth and the meaning of life.


Slashing - great word thanks ;-)


the guy wires struggling

I think Stan meant to say

the taut web of cables forestalling the bridge from capitulating to  
the ceaseless siren call of gravity




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Re: First real workout of the K20

2009-03-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 09:06:15AM -0400, David J Brooks wrote:
 Don't feel to bad, I have been using digital cameras since 1997, and
 still have trouble figuring stuff out.
 
 Want proof, read some of my old posts.:-)

If it was easy, then anybody could do it.

 
 One thing i have learned, and it cost me a lot of money to find this
 out, is one camera cannot do all of what i want, so I'm a two system
 shooter now.
 My D1, D1H and D2h are all better for my equine work. That is not to

My friend JC Dill does a lot of equine work, as you might guess from
her URL: http://equinephotoart.com/

 say the K10D does not work, it does, but the other cameras do a better
 job in AF and buffer, etc.

My roadmap is to eventually go dual system, probably in about two
years. Then again my K100, kit lens and maybe a couple more lenses,
being a huge step up in many ways from my FZ50, was supposed to last
me a couple of years until the performance that I really wanted was
affordable.

 For flash work, the D200 and SB800 flash is the one for me.
 
 For rural landscapes, K10D or D200, both work well.

Yup, a camera is a tool, not a religion.

 
 Once you knwo what the limits are and work around's for them, you'll be fine.

I think I pretty much hit the low light limits of the K20 last
night. My monopod was in my other car, and I forgot about my little
tripod in my backpack. The band was lit, and I use the term lit very
loosely, by two music stand lights:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614960930926/


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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-08 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Mar 8, 2009, at 09:15 , Christine Aguila wrote:


From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com


Being a Chicagoan, I've grown up with LSD.


Ummm. Huh?  Um   What? Umm  Oh, me too!   U   I   
think. Whoa!  What the hell was that!


Trails, man.  Twisty, curvey trails, up and down, splash, splash.   
Faster you go, the more blur you see.  Free--bloody freeken free-- 
trails, wind in your hair, trails, man.  Twisty, curvey trails.
Christine



From whence come the descriptive phrase, Trailing Shutter Flash.
Zounds abound!



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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-08 Thread Toine
Barges! Like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_barge

I plan to spend my summer holidays at the Waddenzee. Should be no
problem to grab a few of these.

Toine

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 On 8/3/09, Toine, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/

Toine

 Stunning work!

 (Toine are you in the Netherlands? Be a lad and if you see any nice
 barges grab a shot or two will you? I love Dutch barges :-)

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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-08 Thread Toine
Thanks. Yes, I think #39 was posted before.

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 - Original Message - From: Toine jack.isid...@gmail.com


 Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

 http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/


 Wonderful gallery: some favs:  14, 33, 35, 37, 38, 48,  49

 Didn't you post 39 before?

 Anyway, lovely, just lovely.
 cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-08 Thread Toine
All the nice compliments make me scared. I'll try to keep the door open ;)

Toine

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 Bob W wrote:

 Go and stand over there, next to Juan Buhler.
 That's probably the best nature gallery I've seen on PDML. Quite stunning.
 It could probably lose half a dozen to 10 pictures to make it even better,
 but it's really quite superb as a whole.

 Bob

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 07 March 2009 23:39
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 Subject: Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

 Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

 http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/


 Seconded.  If you do that just for fun, I think I would be scared to see
 your serious photography.

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Re: PESO: Church tower

2009-03-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 07:52:16AM -0500, Nick Wright wrote:
 Here's another PESO:
 http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/church-tower-2/
 
 Comment welcome and appreciated.

My only complaint with that shot is that I didn't take it.


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RE: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

2009-03-08 Thread Bob W

 There will be a small PDML gathering here (northern 
 England) the week 
 before Easter.
 
  
  
  What dates, and where? I am busy the weekend before Easter, 
 but if it's some
  other time I could try and get to it. Otherwise my 
 preference would be for
  an Oxford meet-up, but I will bow to the wishes of our 
 visitors if they
  prefer London.
 
 Something like 5th to 11th April.  Based here but roving as 
 far as the 
 Lake District and Kielder (maybe Whitby), weather permitting.

Can't make it. On the 5th I'm recovering from a hangover. Working the
following week, then I have other committments over Easter. Pity.

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Re: First real workout of the K20

2009-03-08 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen 
Subject: Re: First real workout of the K20






Yup, a camera is a tool, not a religion.



Pentax is a religion, not a tool.

William Robb

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Jack Davis

Boy did that make me hungry. Think I have just the right spinner for one of 
those.
Can't seem to stop salivating. slurp

Jack


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 Subject: Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 9:10 AM
 Doug Brewer wrote:
  Mark Roberts wrote:
  
   You're a veritable Doug Brewer with prose.
  
  oh, hey, he's done a good thing and you've
 gone and insulted him.
 
 You're underestimating yourself. Anyone who gets
 seduced by Russian ichthyologists can't be too bad.
 (http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=987)
 
 
 
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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Jack Davis

Yeah, but I remember having to tie viewers to their chairs to keep them from 
sneaking out in the dark.

Jack


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 Subject: Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 9:38 AM
 Cotty wrote:
 
  On 8/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  
 WRT Jostein's Nylons picture, many
 of the nests seen are constructed
 out of plastic netting and line.  It's a savage
 criticism of mankind's
 abuse of the natural world, combined with a rosy
 look at how nature
 copes with our intrusion.  Or something.  Not that
 I'm putting words
 into Josteins art, you understand.
  
  
  I did notice some of the detritus but thought it was
 too subtle to be
  what Jostein meant - Norwegians tend to do things on
 grand scales (q.v.
  fiddly bits ;)  thanks for that.
  
  
 BTW.  I have seen some of the pictures before,
 posted to the list.  All
 appear _much_ better on the printed page. 
 Particularly Bill Robb's
 sunken bicycle.
  
  
  I have to agree - much better. Computer screens are
 good but the printed
  page still holds the edge in photography.
 
 I still prefer projected slides for sheer magnificence.
 
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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Adam Montoya
On 3/7/09, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

  Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:

  http://www.cottysnaps.com/annual.html


Bleepity bleep with bleep on top. That was a wonderful review. You
spent ten hours on that and you didn't stick one banner ad to money
off your time? Pure class. Thank you so much for the kind words. (I've
changed the name of that one photo about 10 times since submitting it
to the book. Still can't think of name that is truly fitting for it it
:-) ).


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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I once wrote a commercial for Mercedes-Benz that revolved around the  
idea of a slide show. The spot consisted of a guy projecting slides of  
his family vacations for a group of friends, who were seen as  
foreground silhouettes. He went through slides of vacations that  
spanned more than a dozen years, and the same Mercedes sedan appeared  
in all of the slides. As he projected the photos, you would see the  
people in the foreground sneaking out of the room. The end line was  
Nothing lasts forever, but some things seem to. It came close to  
production but never quite made the cut.

Paul
On Mar 8, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote:



Yeah, but I remember having to tie viewers to their chairs to keep  
them from sneaking out in the dark.


Jack


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From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 9:38 AM
Cotty wrote:


On 8/3/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:



WRT Jostein's Nylons picture, many

of the nests seen are constructed

out of plastic netting and line.  It's a savage

criticism of mankind's

abuse of the natural world, combined with a rosy

look at how nature

copes with our intrusion.  Or something.  Not that

I'm putting words

into Josteins art, you understand.



I did notice some of the detritus but thought it was

too subtle to be

what Jostein meant - Norwegians tend to do things on

grand scales (q.v.

fiddly bits ;)  thanks for that.



BTW.  I have seen some of the pictures before,

posted to the list.  All

appear _much_ better on the printed page.

Particularly Bill Robb's

sunken bicycle.



I have to agree - much better. Computer screens are

good but the printed

page still holds the edge in photography.


I still prefer projected slides for sheer magnificence.

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Re: DA*60-250

2009-03-08 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I have it confirmed by TeKaDe the price of the 60-250 will be 999 euros 
or perhaps even less then that.
Sometimes I wonder if the 50-135 wouldnt be a better choice, given an 
extra stop and it is available.


Frits

David J Brooks wrote:

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Frits Wüthrich fritswuthr...@xs4all.nl wrote:
  

Yes, on eBay, but for about $1700 or more.
I see a Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 SP Di-LD for 599 euro,
and a Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG APO HSM for 659 euro, this lens has
hypersonic drive.

Anyone that has experience with either one of these?



I know you are referring to the 80-200 here for $1700, but for that
money, i can get a D300 and drip, and use lenses i already have.:--)
I hear the 60-250 will sell around $1200-1300, some were around there.
I think that's to much, considering i can now get a 50-135 for less
than 1K here.

Dave
  

Frits

Stan Halpin wrote:


Reading the tea leaves and other cryptic signs on the USA Pentax site:

55/1.4 is shown as New/Buy It Now;
15/4.4 is shown as Coming Soon
60-250/ is shown.

There is an 80-200/2.8 on eBay right now...

stan

On Mar 2, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

  

Latest hint from Pentax is late spring 2009 - production problems


On Mar 2, 2009, at 15:30 , Frits Wüthrich wrote:



Is there any news about the availability of this lens? I pre ordered
with TeKaDe, it was suppose to arrive around Christmas, de price has gone
down in the mean time, and TeKaDe has no idea when the lens will arrive. I
wonder if I should go for another lens, Tamron or Tokina, don't know who has
a nice alternative.

Frits
  

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread ann sanfedele


Cotty wrote:


A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/annual.html

Enjoy :-)

-Cheers,
 Cotty at 2am on a stormy night


=
woo woo! he writes, too!  

Cotty - I'm blushing --  of course I'm delighted you not only like my 
photos but get'em  - hehe
If I had the book right now I'd supliment your review of one particular 
photographer that you

damed with faint praise... I think he's better than that!

I'm also glad for your reviews of all the other works as I don't have my 
copy of the book yet...
and I'm being pleased to see which photos I already know of others are 
in (awkward line -

but you'l muddle through it.)

xo,
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Re: Book review

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm glad my aunty isn't six foot five driving a Land Rover.

You should be so lucky!

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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
You've got to let them in on the secret.
LSD is the acronym for Lake Shore Drive,
a 6 lane highway up the north shore of Chicago's lakefront.
It's conjested every morning and evening rush, but a beautiful drive.
It was imortalized in some song or another, but not very 'imortalized' I guess.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Christine  Aguila
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 From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com

 Being a Chicagoan, I've grown up with LSD.

 Ummm. Huh?  Um   What?     Umm  Oh, me too!   U   I  think.
 Whoa!  What the hell was that!

 Trails, man.  Twisty, curvey trails, up and down, splash, splash.  Faster
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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

2009-03-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/09, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty, I don't know what moved you to do this review, but it is a
tremendous effort. You do this so well.

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