Re: Well, hello
SV Hovland wrote: Thanks all. No, I think Mr. Clarkson hates motorcycles so I am not The Stig. He would probably sent me home again when he found out. But I love cars and especially Formula 1. Have been on 6 races and are going to the seventh in Belgium later this month. Pictures: Well, I have lot of them, but not good at sharing. I have a blog here, http://www.heime.org/Lists/Categories/Category.aspx?Name=Photos%20shown%20in%20Sandnes%20Fotoklubb , which is pictures shown in Sandnes Photo Club. This club is seventy years old this year and I have been a member for only a few years (http://www.sandnes-fotoklubb.no/ ). All pictures shown in this club by me is here: http://album.heime.org/Default.aspx?albummode=Folderalbumpath=%2falbum%2fSandnesFotoklubb Oh. I'm on holiday for a month and now I'm depressed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Some Old Trucks
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: Re: Geso: Some Old Trucks William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: A friend of mine discovered this little goldmine of photographic opportunities a couple of weeks ago. There are in excess of 200 elderly vehicles of various types and vintages sitting in the fields surrounding the farmyard. Great. Now, return there the night of the next full moon and P.J. will hate someone else for a change. ;-) I might just do that. It's about a 45 minute drive from my house. Did you notice the in camera HDRs? I thought they were overpolarised. My apologies, I should have known better. Thanks for looking and commenting BTW, we all hate you. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday: random miscellanea
With today's layoff, I need to get more serious about parting with stuff, preferably getting some money, but also, more importantly, making space and reducing clutter. I spent too much time finding bargains on craigslist. Especially when I thought Pentax might come out with a full frame camera. Several itmes were given to me. Just going through the pile of stuff, if you're interested in something make me an offer. M42 Honeywell Pentax SP500 (2 of) Super Multi Coated takumar 1:3.5/135 Super Multi Coated takumar 1:4/200 Super Takumar 1:2/55 Hanimar auto s f=135 1:2.8 (fungus) Super Takumar 1:1.4/50 Vivitar 75-260 1:4.5 Chinon K-mount Chinon CE-4 with Vivtar 70-2101:4.5 K-Mount ME super P30T ZX10 ZX50 Super Program Takumar-A zoom 1:3.5-4.5 28~80 Vivtar 70-300 1:4.2-5.8 macro focusing zoom DA 1:3.5-5.6 18-55 AL (K100Ds kit lens) -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Well, hello
This one. http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp4140_raw_edited-1.jpg - Original Message - From: SV Hovland p...@heime.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Well, hello Again, thanks. I could not see what picture you liked because your link was to the album. You have to click on each picture until you get the largest version. Then you have a correct link for that picture. Or you can click the permalink below each picture to get a proper link. Stig Vidar Hovland Nice pictures, Stig--especially this one! Cheers, Christine Love it! http://album.heime.org:80/Default.aspx?albummode=Folderalbumpath=%2falbum%2fSandnesFotoklubb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some Old Trucks
Nice, William. It'd be fun to see an overview shot of the field with all the trucks. Must be some site. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Geso: Some Old Trucks A friend of mine discovered this little goldmine of photographic opportunities a couple of weeks ago. There are in excess of 200 elderly vehicles of various types and vintages sitting in the fields surrounding the farmyard. This is but one small corner. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/sometrucks/index.html Shot with the K-7 and either the 60-250 or the 15/LTD. Minimal post processing, just resizing, a tweak of the levels here and there and some sharpening. The colour is Lightroom default. The 15 is my new best friend. Enjoy William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Well, hello
:-) It's my mother-in-law and she is a small problem regarding photographing. She hates being taken photos of. I either need good tips for how to persuade her or I have to find someone else. My idea is her lying on green grass with a red sweater, sun glasses and a cigarette, but she refuses. This one. http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp4140_raw_edited-1.jpg - Original Message - From: SV Hovland p...@heime.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Well, hello Again, thanks. I could not see what picture you liked because your link was to the album. You have to click on each picture until you get the largest version. Then you have a correct link for that picture. Or you can click the permalink below each picture to get a proper link. Stig Vidar Hovland Nice pictures, Stig--especially this one! Cheers, Christine Love it! http://album.heime.org:80/Default.aspx?albummode=Folderalbumpath=%2falbum%2fSandnesFotoklubb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a whole bunch more time for photography. I just got laid off. It's a good thing I didn't buy that 16-50. expect a big fs friday post real soon. Sorry to hear, Larry, hopefully it'll open some new doors for you. My previous workplace recently had another round of outsourcing. It appears that the corporate overlords decided that engineers are cheaper in China, just like the manufacturing staff were. From a financial point of view I don't see why they can't take this to its logical conclusion and shift everything over, including their own jobs. Some of my former colleagues are having to train their own replacements. I really don't envy them. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Well, hello
On Aug 7, 2009, at 4:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Don't sell the 80-200/2.8 - you'll regret it forever. I won't mind if you sell it. I'm thinking about looking for one, but I doubt I can really afford to. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Well, hello
On Aug 6, 2009, at 11:02 PM, David J Brooks wrote: PS turn your spell checker off when you read my posting's and you'll be ok. How about the apostrophe checker? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
- Original Message - From: David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz Some of my former colleagues are having to train their own replacements. I really don't envy them. When I hear this sort of thing, it just makes my blood boil. What unabashed nerve on the part of those corporate overlords. Ugh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Accelerating PS CS4 with your Graphics Card: Interesting article and Adobe Knowledgebase about it.
For those interested: Article: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/1496578/apps-exploit-graphics-cards Adobe's KB: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
workstation
Hi All time to replace my aging PC workstation at work - I do most of my photo processing on it - any recommendations on a spec for a replacement? Should I get two monitors and if so what config for the screen sizes should I get - I assume LCD screeens are now good enough to replace my 19 Viewsonic CRT as the main display? Alastair -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
Very sorry to hear that Larry :( I'm sure you will find a job which suits you better, being freelance or not. Your next FS won't be read as most other FSes ... Regards, -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D2007 user (trying out D2009) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
Alastair Robertson wrote: time to replace my aging PC workstation at work - I do most of my photo processing on it - any recommendations on a spec for a replacement? Should I get two monitors and if so what config for the screen sizes should I get - I assume LCD screeens are now good enough to replace my 19 Viewsonic CRT as the main display? The latest LCD monitors are very good indeed as long as you avoid the cheap ones (the TN - Twisted Nematic - type). I went through considerable research before buying mine and collected some information which I put on my web site: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=31 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Dream Cruise Blog, Part II
Good jib again Paul. Dave On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:32 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/where-dream-cruisers-gather-before-the-big-day/#more-21201 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 126 - GDG
Yes it was. I like how you have captured this, with the stair running into the wall. Dave On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgiramar...@mac.com wrote: First morning in Tijuana, the light was kind to me... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/126-window-and-stairs comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: - Twisted Nematic - Twisted Sister cover band. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Dream Cruise Blog, Part II
What jib, I thought he was writing about cars not boats... David J Brooks wrote: Good jib again Paul. Dave On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:32 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/where-dream-cruisers-gather-before-the-big-day/#more-21201 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: - Twisted Nematic - Twisted Sister cover band. No way. Twisted Sister was imitating *them*. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
Mark Roberts wrote: The latest LCD monitors are very good indeed as long as you avoid the cheap ones (the TN - Twisted Nematic - type). I went through considerable research before buying mine and collected some information which I put on my web site: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=31 I recently had to replace my CRT and did the same research that Mark did, including using his web site as a jumping off point. I ended up with an HP LP2475W for around $600 refurbished (24 1920x1200). A friend at work this week pointed me to an online add for them, again refurbished, for more like $300. It's an S-IPS monitor so it's better for photo work than the TN and PVA LCD technologies. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
Alastair Robertson wrote: time to replace my aging PC workstation at work - I do most of my photo processing on it - any recommendations on a spec for a replacement? Should I get two monitors and if so what config for the screen sizes should I get - I assume LCD screeens are now good enough to replace my 19 Viewsonic CRT as the main display? The right LCDs can replace a CRT for photo work, nearly any LCD can replace a CRT for everyday stuff like emailing and web browsing. At home, I have a 1920x1200 and a 1650x1080, both landscape. I want to add a portrait monitor to the system, or maybe just rotate the 1650x1080 one. At work, I have two 1650x1080 monitors, one portrait and one landscape. I spend a lot of my time working on text (documentation and code) and a portrait monitor really comes in handy. When photo editing, one of the best parts of having two monitors is that, depending on the program you're using, you can put the image on all of one monitor and the program's toolbars and tool panels over on the other. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO The Pirate Farts on Posterous dot com :-)
From: Christine Aguila just thought I'd try this out. Thanks for the heads up, Godfrey. poterous certainly has a nice clean look. http://caguila.posterous.com/ Taken in the Field Museum lobby--with the pirate exhibit and all . . . Just a little funny. Cheers, Christine Quite funny actually ... there's nothing there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
Doug Franklin wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: The latest LCD monitors are very good indeed as long as you avoid the cheap ones (the TN - Twisted Nematic - type). I went through considerable research before buying mine and collected some information which I put on my web site: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=31 I recently had to replace my CRT and did the same research that Mark did, including using his web site as a jumping off point. I ended up with an HP LP2475W for around $600 refurbished (24 1920x1200). A friend at work this week pointed me to an online add for them, again refurbished, for more like $300. It's an S-IPS monitor so it's better for photo work than the TN and PVA LCD technologies. I've found it's pretty much a toss-up between the latest S-IPS and S-PVA/S-MVA monitors. Just avoid the TN type. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
I've often wondered about the need for a really good monitor. I'd certainly like one, but I've yet to find an IPS or VA monitor readily available in Australia. Then there is the question of what the image you are editing is going to be used for. 4 colour printing doesn't have the colour gamut of even TN screens so if the image is to be printed what use is a great monitor? If you are publishing it on the net then 99% of people looking at it will have TN screens so what it will never look the way you edited it, so what is the use of a great monitor? If you are only going to share it with other people with colour adjusted high end monitors, you will have a small - albeit a knowledgeable and discerning - audience. Don't get me wrong, I'd like a nice monitor with a wide viewing angle, great contrast and a wide colour gamut, but am I better off catering to my audience? Please give me some justification for buying a high end monitor that I am going to have to order specially without even seeing how it performs! Leon 2009/8/7 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: I've found it's pretty much a toss-up between the latest S-IPS and S-PVA/S-MVA monitors. Just avoid the TN type. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - first K7 pics
207 is great. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Chris Mitchell Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:23 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: GESO - first K7 pics A community music event run by the Parks Trust in Campbell Park, Milton Keynes. It's the John Howarth Band: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/JohnHowarth2/ DA* 16-60 2.8 and DA* 50-135 2.8. DNG raw converted in LR 1. A selection of daylight lighting and no horrid colour issues as far as I can see (so long as you ignore the red leopard print trousers the bass player is wearing). Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Well, hello
Some say he has the biggest zoom in Norway and his left eye was assembled in Viet Nam. All we know is he's called the . . . Really nice Gallery. Yet another one to make me feel insecure (sigh). -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:59 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Well, hello On 6/8/09, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: The Stig is in actuality Micheal Schumacher. Oooohh - you've been had mate ;- -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
I feel your pain. Really. Got my pink slip 'bout half an hour ago. I am, as they say, now free to pursue other interests. From: David J Brooks Bummer to hear Larry. I was given the bronze handshake back in 2007. It all works out in the end i have found. Keep your head up. Dave On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a whole bunch more time for photography. I just got laid off. It's a good thing I didn't buy that 16-50. expect a big fs friday post real soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
John Sessoms wrote: I feel your pain. Really. Got my pink slip 'bout half an hour ago. I am, as they say, now free to pursue other interests. dang. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some Old Trucks
- Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: Some Old Trucks Nice, William. It'd be fun to see an overview shot of the field with all the trucks. Must be some site. Cheers, Christine Right now they have things spread around quite a bit. I wanted to into the yard proper but there was no one around and in this instance I wanted to ask permission. It's definitely a spot to go back to. Thanks for looking and commenting William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Some Old Trucks
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Geso: Some Old Trucks Enjoyed these. Nicely done. The green chevy looks like a good candidate for a restoration. Not much rust. Thanks Paul. One of the advantages to living in a very dry climate is that vehicles can last a very long time, especially if they are working farm trucks that don't get much operation in the winter. We have a small but very active community of vehicle restorers here, and it is quite common to see cars from the 40s, 50s and 60s being joy driven during the summer. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Some Old Trucks
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Geso: Some Old Trucks Did you notice the in camera HDRs? I thought they were overpolarised. My apologies, I should have known better. I think I own a polarizer... I'm not sure what I think of the in camera HDR, but I thought I'd try it and post a sample or two to see if anyone caught it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: random miscellanea
On 8/7/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: With today's layoff, I need to get more serious about parting with stuff, preferably getting some money, but also, more importantly, making space and reducing clutter. I spent too much time finding bargains on craigslist. Especially when I thought Pentax might come out with a full frame camera. Several itmes were given to me. Just going through the pile of stuff, if you're interested in something make me an offer. M42 Honeywell Pentax SP500 (2 of) I'm a bit interested in these. Do they work properly - meter and shutter? And can you take a couple quick pictures? -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting exhibition coming up
From: Joseph McAllister On Aug 6, 2009, at 05:49 , John Sessoms wrote: From: Joseph McAllister No wonder it takes me so much time to get through the PDML each day. I read the words! It's not that, it's all the little side journeys that crop up along the way. Some link in the 99 thread eventually caught me up in a 4 part PBS series on the first century of the Roman Empire via YouTube and it took me almost a week to finish reading about Roman Emperors and the make up of first century Roman Legions. I have no idea where the French Saunders link from the Death Takes a Holiday thread is going to end. Must plow through the detritus with blinders firmly on. Once caught in the quagmire of YouTube you are lost for the day. God forbid something links me into FaceBook, which will link me into YouTube, which takes me out to HULU. Life is too short. Yeah, I know. Fortunately, I don't do FaceBook, and I don't yet know what HULU is ... although I guess I could Google it. I watched a young lady at the dog park yesterday. She got a message on her iPhone (white) at least every minute, and replied to every one faster than I can type with a keyboard. I hope she's not crippled in the thumbs by the time she's 30. I'm safe from that. I don't have an iPhone, and the battery on my cell phone is only good for a couple of hours. Don't have text messaging or internet on the phone. All I have on the cell phone is it rings if someone does happen to call and voice mail in case the battery is dead or I forgot to take it off the charger when I left the house. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Handy tip for traveling with camera gear in checked baggage
Probably applies to US only but quite interesting nonetheless (he mentions European countries however). I try to carry my 500/4 in the cabin but for all the other accessories and lenses and backup bodies, this might be a good idea. (the video starts out too early... skip ahead a few minutes; not safe for work without headphones, the dude loves the F word) http://www.vimeo.com/3923535 More info here: http://deviating.net/firearms/packing/ -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting exhibition coming up
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Interesting exhibition coming up Yeah, I know. Fortunately, I don't do FaceBook, I have a crackbook page, but I hardly ever go there. The last time I opened facebook I was so overwhelmed by the sheer volume of stuff on my page that I ran away. I just don't have time for it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: I've found it's pretty much a toss-up between the latest S-IPS and S-PVA/S-MVA monitors. Just avoid the TN type. I don't need a new monitor, yet, but just curious. Will these letter codes appear any were when you look at them, on the sales tag or stamped some were.?? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: I've found it's pretty much a toss-up between the latest S-IPS and S-PVA/S-MVA monitors. Just avoid the TN type. I don't need a new monitor, yet, but just curious. Will these letter codes appear any were when you look at them, on the sales tag or stamped some were.?? Dave Would that we be so lucky. You have to track the model down on the web to find out which type of panel it has. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Dream Cruise Blog, Part II
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:08 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: What jib, I thought he was writing about cars not boats... I just saw dream cruise and thought Dave David J Brooks wrote: Good jib again Paul. Dave On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:32 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/where-dream-cruisers-gather-before-the-big-day/#more-21201 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Adam Maasa...@mawz.ca wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: I've found it's pretty much a toss-up between the latest S-IPS and S-PVA/S-MVA monitors. Just avoid the TN type. I don't need a new monitor, yet, but just curious. Will these letter codes appear any were when you look at them, on the sales tag or stamped some were.?? Dave Would that we be so lucky. You have to track the model down on the web to find out which type of panel it has. Thanks Dave -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
Hu. Making this very hard Jack.:-) I have taken a few moon shots with my Sigma 170-500 and they are not as clear as this one. Dave On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
From: Christine Aguila From: David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz Some of my former colleagues are having to train their own replacements. I really don't envy them. When I hear this sort of thing, it just makes my blood boil. What unabashed nerve on the part of those corporate overlords. Ugh. Aahhh! That's because you don't see the inherent opportunities such an eventuality presents. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
- Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: today's news Some of my former colleagues are having to train their own replacements. I really don't envy them. When I hear this sort of thing, it just makes my blood boil. What unabashed nerve on the part of those corporate overlords. Ugh. It's an opportunity, not a challenge. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - first K7 pics
In a message dated 8/6/2009 12:23:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chris.mitch...@which.net writes: A community music event run by the Parks Trust in Campbell Park, Milton Keynes. It's the John Howarth Band: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/JohnHowarth2/ DA* 16-60 2.8 and DA* 50-135 2.8. DNG raw converted in LR 1. A selection of daylight lighting and no horrid colour issues as far as I can see (so long as you ignore the red leopard print trousers the bass player is wearing). Chris = Some night shots there, like the close ups of the quitar player. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Dream Cruise Blog, Part II
In a message dated 8/6/2009 2:33:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: It's here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/where-dream-cruisers-gather-befor e-the-big-day/#more-21201 == Totally cool being in the NYT! Good article and some nice shots. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
In a message dated 8/7/2009 5:30:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 === Nice moon shot, Jack. Pretty darn good for just 300mm! Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6
Hi I'm new here, although I did receive this back a few years ago. I have a question. I have used the Pentax FA 80-320 for a few years. I loaned it out and the borrower dropped it, rendering it useless. Now I need to replace it - for less money than I would prefer to spend. How do you people think it compares with the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6? Is there a different lens to consider in the under-$250 price range? Many thanks, Tony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
William Robb wrote: Or, you can bitch and whine on the internet if that is what floats your boat, but it isn't as constructive. Absolutely - and that's exactly what all kind of reviewers will do until they got next camera or feature to chomp. Personally I don't care much - I managed to survive the Soviet age as a child and most probably a bit inaccurate level will not kill me either. Still I hate when some smart*sses will have ground for whining on a good camera like K-7. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
2009/8/6 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: I don't need any central-nervous toxin to come across as plain silly. Apologies, Joe... :-) From me, or to me? hmmm... From me, anyway. Despite not being British. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Tony Cogantonyco...@cox.net wrote: Now I need to replace it - for less money than I would prefer to spend. How do you people think it compares with the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6? Is there a different lens to consider in the under-$250 price range? I don't have experience with the Pentax, but I have the Tamron 70-300, and my dad has the Sigma (we both have K10D's). I found the Tamron pretty poor at 300mm. At the long end, it has bad purple fringing at all apertures, and a general lack of sharpness. The purple fringing isn't just branches against a bright sky... it also appears at the boundary of light and dark feathers on a Canada Goose's face, for example. At shorter focal lengths, especially 70-135mm or so, I'm quite pleased with it. I'm also happier with the macro performance than I expected to be. You can browse around my photos at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/tags/tamronaf70300mmf456lddimacro/ But they're all reduced in size, many are cropped, many have had the purple fringing reduced as best I could, etc. Both of my PDML Photo Annual images were taken with this lens. (Blasphemy?) My dad's Sigma seems generally better than my Tamron, and I don't think he has any real complaints about it. I've heard that the Sigmas exhibit more lens-to-lens variation; his seems to be a good one. My new DA*300 is in a whole different league than either of them at 300mm, of course... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Laura Jean, w/ Tom Cooney, Caitlin Park (and a really slack DA*55 vs CV58 comparison)
Hi all, Sasha asked what I thought about the DA*55/1.4 and the Voigtlander 58mm/1.4 SLII. Tonight, I took both out on a date (along with the 77mm Ltd as chaperone). Here's my kiss 'n tell. The DA*55 is no doubt a fine lens, and a great performer in low light. Normally, I shoot manual focus in these situations, but I have no problem letting SDM do the work once in a while. The flare control is unsurprisingly stellar, especially with the impressive hood in place. Sharpness in these situations is not really a high priority but it certainly is up there with the 77mm (I'm not a sharpness fetishist anyway) The Voigtlander 58 is a little more flare prone, not just because the well-made but shallow metal hood doesn't help that much. But I had no serious shots were lost because of it, so 'meh' on this one. The best thing about it is the manual focus feel. I like buttery (though not too heavy) helicoids and solid end-stops, so this is where the DA* looses out. The DA necessarily feels a little loose here. I just have a little easier time follow-focusing with the CV. I hardly ever go to a gig without the 77. And while I only took a handful of frames with it tonight, I'm glad I didn't break the habit. Here are the pics. I'm not telling which lens shot which, I don't think it matters. It would be like saying which one of my dates is my favourite. I had a great time with all 3 of them (and you can't make critical judgements from webs-size photos anyway). http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/index.htm ...oh, the music. Caitlin Park is great. She has a lovely throaty voice and a terrific stillness to her songs. More bands should have cute melodica players, methinks. Tom Cooney reminds me of Fleet Foxes - very sweet. Laura Jean, the headlinermy judgement is still out. I'm not a big fan of worthy-cause music. And I think her songs need a little more variety. But it was still a very enjoyable set. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
My sympathies John. Keep busy and positive. We are not defined by our jobs... Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:42 AM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I feel your pain. Really. Got my pink slip 'bout half an hour ago. I am, as they say, now free to pursue other interests. From: David J Brooks Bummer to hear Larry. I was given the bronze handshake back in 2007. It all works out in the end i have found. Keep your head up. Dave On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a whole bunch more time for photography. I just got laid off. It's a good thing I didn't buy that 16-50. expect a big fs friday post real soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Accelerating PS CS4 with your Graphics Card: Interesting article and Adobe Knowledgebase about it.
For those interested: Article: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/1496578/apps-exploit-graphics-cards Adobe's KB: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html Thanks for posting this. Although I'd already known about that feature, I didn't know that Use for Image Display was slowing down my machine so much. I turned it off and got a very noticeable increase in performance. Nice! John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Laura Jean, w/ Tom Cooney, Caitlin Park (and a really slack DA*55 vs CV58 comparison)
Derby, Nice photo set includes some top-notch catches. Plus you are such a gentleman to not 'kiss and tell'. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Derby Changder...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi all, Sasha asked what I thought about the DA*55/1.4 and the Voigtlander 58mm/1.4 SLII. Tonight, I took both out on a date (along with the 77mm Ltd as chaperone). Here's my kiss 'n tell. The DA*55 is no doubt a fine lens, and a great performer in low light. Normally, I shoot manual focus in these situations, but I have no problem letting SDM do the work once in a while. The flare control is unsurprisingly stellar, especially with the impressive hood in place. Sharpness in these situations is not really a high priority but it certainly is up there with the 77mm (I'm not a sharpness fetishist anyway) The Voigtlander 58 is a little more flare prone, not just because the well-made but shallow metal hood doesn't help that much. But I had no serious shots were lost because of it, so 'meh' on this one. The best thing about it is the manual focus feel. I like buttery (though not too heavy) helicoids and solid end-stops, so this is where the DA* looses out. The DA necessarily feels a little loose here. I just have a little easier time follow-focusing with the CV. I hardly ever go to a gig without the 77. And while I only took a handful of frames with it tonight, I'm glad I didn't break the habit. Here are the pics. I'm not telling which lens shot which, I don't think it matters. It would be like saying which one of my dates is my favourite. I had a great time with all 3 of them (and you can't make critical judgements from webs-size photos anyway). http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/index.htm ...oh, the music. Caitlin Park is great. She has a lovely throaty voice and a terrific stillness to her songs. More bands should have cute melodica players, methinks. Tom Cooney reminds me of Fleet Foxes - very sweet. Laura Jean, the headlinermy judgement is still out. I'm not a big fan of worthy-cause music. And I think her songs need a little more variety. But it was still a very enjoyable set. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6
I used to own a Sigma 70-300. I HATED it. Absolutely the worst lens I've ever owned. I will never buy another Sigma lens, and not just because of that one lens. I've tried a variety of Sigmas, and the only one I ever liked was the 105mm macro. More importantly, shouldn't the person who dropped the lens be buying you the replacement? John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto - Original Message - From: Tony Cogan tonyco...@cox.net To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6 Hi I'm new here, although I did receive this back a few years ago. I have a question. I have used the Pentax FA 80-320 for a few years. I loaned it out and the borrower dropped it, rendering it useless. Now I need to replace it - for less money than I would prefer to spend. How do you people think it compares with the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6? Is there a different lens to consider in the under-$250 price range? Many thanks, Tony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 18:17:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
I have checked Pop Photos's SQF numbers since they began their lens lab tests a number of years back. They may not be worth a damn, but their past test protocol explanations have impressed this anti geek. The DA 55~300's test results were significantly higher than even those produced the DA* 300 f/4. Test sample variances notwithstanding. BTW, and FWIW, dp comments have been very complimentary. Jack --- On Fri, 8/7/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 7:14 AM Hu. Making this very hard Jack.:-) I have taken a few moon shots with my Sigma 170-500 and they are not as clear as this one. Dave On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
I'll pass your positive remarks along to the lens. ;) Thanks much for commenting, Marnie! Jack --- On Fri, 8/7/09, eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com wrote: From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 8:05 AM In a message dated 8/7/2009 5:30:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 === Nice moon shot, Jack. Pretty darn good for just 300mm! Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: random miscellanea
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:52:24AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: On 8/7/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: M42 Honeywell Pentax SP500 (2 of) I'm a bit interested in these. Do they work properly - meter and shutter? And can you take a couple quick pictures? I thought that the way it works with Pentax is that the customer gets to do the quality testing. :) They don't have batteries in them, I'll see if I can find any, but if you engage the meter, they stop down. The shutters seem to work, I can't speak for the calibration. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
I have mine for 1,5 year, at f/8 or around that it's near perfect. Never looked at the 60-250 ;) Toine 2009/8/7 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday: random miscellanea
For much of this stuff, one thing that I am willing to consider is that I'll ship something to you, you play with it, and tell me what you think it's worth. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
they whom i call David J Brooks wrote: I don't need a new monitor, yet, but just curious. Will these letter codes appear any were when you look at them, on the sales tag or stamped some were.?? generally you can guess pretty well from the basic spec; in my recent research going through dozens of monitors, none of those with 178 degrees horizontal and vertical viewing angle were TN panels; also all of those with 2ms pixel response *were* TN; some brands have a model naming system that helps, for example i believe all Dell UltraSharp models are IPS or VA (though i've otherwise had bad experience counting on monitor specs on Dell's site) that should at least let you narrow your search; i would do careful research on your final candidates -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6
What about the 55-300 Pentax. Seems like a good one. Dave On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Tony Cogantonyco...@cox.net wrote: Hi I'm new here, although I did receive this back a few years ago. I have a question. I have used the Pentax FA 80-320 for a few years. I loaned it out and the borrower dropped it, rendering it useless. Now I need to replace it - for less money than I would prefer to spend. How do you people think it compares with the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6? Is there a different lens to consider in the under-$250 price range? Many thanks, Tony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6
Actually some one on this list might have an 80-320 for sale. I'm sure they wil see this post. Dave On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:16 PM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: What about the 55-300 Pentax. Seems like a good one. Dave On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Tony Cogantonyco...@cox.net wrote: Hi I'm new here, although I did receive this back a few years ago. I have a question. I have used the Pentax FA 80-320 for a few years. I loaned it out and the borrower dropped it, rendering it useless. Now I need to replace it - for less money than I would prefer to spend. How do you people think it compares with the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6? Is there a different lens to consider in the under-$250 price range? Many thanks, Tony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:40 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: today's news Some of my former colleagues are having to train their own replacements. I really don't envy them. When I hear this sort of thing, it just makes my blood boil. What unabashed nerve on the part of those corporate overlords. Ugh. It's an opportunity, not a challenge. When I agreed to the buy out, they asked if i would train the secretary to do part of my job, the survey records searching and what not. They added 8 weeks to the package, so i said sure. Eight weeks was not enough time, so I hear. Dave William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Laura Jean, w/ Tom Cooney, Caitlin Park (and a really slack DA*55 vs CV58 comparison)
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Derby Changder...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/index.htm D Neither one produce very good colour, thats for sure.:-0 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/16.htm Like this one. Dave -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6
Hi Tony- I have a black FA 80-320 that I'm thinking about selling as I don't use it much. I haven't done much research on what the prices are like, but would you be interested? I'm based in California. - Pat On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Tony Cogantonyco...@cox.net wrote: Hi I'm new here, although I did receive this back a few years ago. I have a question. I have used the Pentax FA 80-320 for a few years. I loaned it out and the borrower dropped it, rendering it useless. Now I need to replace it - for less money than I would prefer to spend. How do you people think it compares with the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6? Is there a different lens to consider in the under-$250 price range? Many thanks, Tony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Well, hello
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:45 AM, David Manndm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote: On Aug 6, 2009, at 11:02 PM, David J Brooks wrote: PS turn your spell checker off when you read my posting's and you'll be ok. How about the apostrophe checker? It broke' Dave Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Laura Jean, w/ Tom Cooney, Caitlin Park (and a really slack DA*55 vs CV58 comparison)
Derby, some really nice photos! And thank a lot for posing your feeling about lenses, it is very valuable. In general, if you compare 55mm and 58 mm, liked 77mm one most :) Actually my favorites are: http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/05.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/15.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/17.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/19.htm Only one shoot with 77mm, I can not tell if others were made with 58mm or 55mm :( I have a minor off topic rant about site navigation: it is painful --Sasha On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Derby Changder...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi all, Sasha asked what I thought about the DA*55/1.4 and the Voigtlander 58mm/1.4 SLII. Tonight, I took both out on a date (along with the 77mm Ltd as chaperone). Here's my kiss 'n tell. The DA*55 is no doubt a fine lens, and a great performer in low light. Normally, I shoot manual focus in these situations, but I have no problem letting SDM do the work once in a while. The flare control is unsurprisingly stellar, especially with the impressive hood in place. Sharpness in these situations is not really a high priority but it certainly is up there with the 77mm (I'm not a sharpness fetishist anyway) The Voigtlander 58 is a little more flare prone, not just because the well-made but shallow metal hood doesn't help that much. But I had no serious shots were lost because of it, so 'meh' on this one. The best thing about it is the manual focus feel. I like buttery (though not too heavy) helicoids and solid end-stops, so this is where the DA* looses out. The DA necessarily feels a little loose here. I just have a little easier time follow-focusing with the CV. I hardly ever go to a gig without the 77. And while I only took a handful of frames with it tonight, I'm glad I didn't break the habit. Here are the pics. I'm not telling which lens shot which, I don't think it matters. It would be like saying which one of my dates is my favourite. I had a great time with all 3 of them (and you can't make critical judgements from webs-size photos anyway). http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_08/09_08_laurajean/index.htm ...oh, the music. Caitlin Park is great. She has a lovely throaty voice and a terrific stillness to her songs. More bands should have cute melodica players, methinks. Tom Cooney reminds me of Fleet Foxes - very sweet. Laura Jean, the headlinermy judgement is still out. I'm not a big fan of worthy-cause music. And I think her songs need a little more variety. But it was still a very enjoyable set. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
they whom i call Leon Altoff wrote: If you are publishing it on the net then 99% of people looking at it will have TN screens so what it will never look the way you edited it, so what is the use of a great monitor? [...] Please give me some justification for buying a high end monitor that I am going to have to order specially without even seeing how it performs! think of it as similar to how editing with a 16-bit/channel image can give you more leeway to change an image even if the destination is 8-bit or how sound engineers use very good equipment (including speakers) to do a mix, but then test their mix on cheap speakers to hear how it will sound on the radio the destination of the image matters, but when editing it's very helpful to see as much of the image information as possible; otherwise you might not see things that could be adjusted for better output on the destination device; using a high quality monitor with a color-managed workflow can also better simulate the appearance of the final output (whether it's offset printing, cheap monitor, TV, etc.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
Ain't no big thang! I've been fired from a whole lot better jobs than that one, so I'm doing reasonably well. This ain't no more than a speed bump in life's highway. I'm a little down from losing my job, but at the same time, I was growing to hate where I was working. I loved the job itself, but the work environment and the co-workers were not good. They have to pay me my accrued vacation in addition to the pay I'm due. At least they waited until the end of the payroll week, so I'll have almost a full paycheck for this period. That will basically carry me through the month of August and September is when I start drawing retired pay from the Army National Guard. Sad to say, but my retired pay from my part-time job will be more than my full time pay from Target was. I had intended to stay on a while after my pension kicked in and pay off my car payment early, but I won't have to make much of a financial adjustment to continue to live within my means. All it really means is I won't have a financial surplus I thought was going to allow me to indulge myself a little. In the meantime, I've got a lot of work I can do around the house. Don't got no honey right now, but I sure got the honey-do. From: Bob Sullivan My sympathies John. Keep busy and positive. We are not defined by our jobs... Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:42 AM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I feel your pain. Really. Got my pink slip 'bout half an hour ago. I am, as they say, now free to pursue other interests. From: David J Brooks Bummer to hear Larry. I was given the bronze handshake back in 2007. It all works out in the end i have found. Keep your head up. Dave On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a whole bunch more time for photography. I just got laid off. It's a good thing I didn't buy that 16-50. expect a big fs friday post real soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS: Pentax K100D Super with 18-55II lens
Nearly new condition Pentax K100D Super, less than 2,000 shutter clicks (I think). 18-55II lens, original box, most of the accessories, eight NiMH AA and charger. Everything is in excellent shape. Anyone want to go for $225? Shipping included to lower 48. Paypal please. Or someone make me an offer? Really need to sell. ~Nick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
I had the DA*60~250 in mind, but first wanted to try the DA55~300. The DA*60~250 has now been relegated to the back of my mind. Jack --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl Subject: Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:59 AM I have mine for 1,5 year, at f/8 or around that it's near perfect. Never looked at the 60-250 ;) Toine 2009/8/7 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
...ouch... that I'm sorry to read too, John. May your other interests (and Larry's and all others in the situation - my position is rather fragile in the IT business right now too) prove ample source of income and amusement... no matter what, keep kicking! (I'd write walking but then I just don't like that whisky) lf John Sessoms escreveu: I feel your pain. Really. Got my pink slip 'bout half an hour ago. I am, as they say, now free to pursue other interests. From: David J Brooks Bummer to hear Larry. I was given the bronze handshake back in 2007. It all works out in the end i have found. Keep your head up. Dave On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a whole bunch more time for photography. I just got laid off. It's a good thing I didn't buy that 16-50. expect a big fs friday post real soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
- Original Message - From: Margus Männik Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level? Absolutely - and that's exactly what all kind of reviewers will do until they got next camera or feature to chomp. Personally I don't care much - I managed to survive the Soviet age as a child and most probably a bit inaccurate level will not kill me either. Still I hate when some smart*sses will have ground for whining on a good camera like K-7. Fortunately, reviewer idiocy isn't brand specific. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:25 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I had the DA*60~250 in mind, but first wanted to try the DA55~300. The DA*60~250 has now been relegated to the back of my mind. Given its price it was never in the front of mine. I've just picked up a 55-300 to replace my defective 80-320. I haven't had an opportunity to put it through its paces yet but, judging by your moon shot, I think I've made a good choice. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl Subject: Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:59 AM I have mine for 1,5 year, at f/8 or around that it's near perfect. Never looked at the 60-250 ;) Toine 2009/8/7 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:20 -0500, Tony Cogan tonyco...@cox.net wrote: Hi I'm new here, although I did receive this back a few years ago. I have a question. I have used the Pentax FA 80-320 for a few years. I loaned it out and the borrower dropped it, rendering it useless. Now I need to replace it - for less money than I would prefer to spend. How do you people think it compares with the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6? Is there a different lens to consider in the under-$250 price range? I've never owned the Sigma but I was very fond of my 80-320 until it decided that it no longer wanted to focus at infinity at the long end. I would of thought that you might be able to pick up a used 80-320 within the $250 limit, although you might have to be patient. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO The Pirate Farts on Posterous dot com :-)
On Aug 7, 2009, at 05:42 , John Sessoms wrote: From: Christine Aguila just thought I'd try this out. Thanks for the heads up, Godfrey. poterous certainly has a nice clean look. http://caguila.posterous.com/ Taken in the Field Museum lobby--with the pirate exhibit and all . . . Just a little funny. Cheers, Christine Quite funny actually ... there's nothing there. The pirates made off with it, I guess. Hey, RBE, what's up with that? Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Accelerating PS CS4 with your Graphics Card: Interesting article and Adobe Knowledgebase about it.
Can something similar be done in the latest LR? On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Thibouillepentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: For those interested: Article: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/1496578/apps-exploit-graphics-cards Adobe's KB: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
Oh, crap. Larry, my condolences. Wishing you quick recovery and so that the new job will be better than the old one. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a whole bunch more time for photography. I just got laid off. It's a good thing I didn't buy that 16-50. expect a big fs friday post real soon. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Accelerating PS CS4 with your Graphics Card: Interesting article and Adobe Knowledgebase about it.
From the FAQ in the Knowledge Base article referenced below: Q. Is Photoshop Lightroom GPU accelerated? A. No. On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:20:27PM -0700, Boris Liberman wrote: Can something similar be done in the latest LR? On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Thibouillepentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: For those interested: Article: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/1496578/apps-exploit-graphics-cards Adobe's KB: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: workstation
On Aug 7, 2009, at 05:53 , Mark Roberts wrote: I've found it's pretty much a toss-up between the latest S-IPS and S-PVA/S-MVA monitors. Just avoid the TN type. To save any iMac owners the trouble, you have a: Apple iMac 12ms G2G24WS LG.Display H-IPS (LM240WU2-(SL)(B1)) iMac: Resolution: 1920 x 1200 Depth:32-Bit Color Core Image: Hardware Accelerated Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Accelerating PS CS4 with your Graphics Card: Interesting article and Adobe Knowledgebase about it.
Thanks! On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: From the FAQ in the Knowledge Base article referenced below: Q. Is Photoshop Lightroom GPU accelerated? A. No. On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:20:27PM -0700, Boris Liberman wrote: Can something similar be done in the latest LR? On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Thibouillepentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: For those interested: Article: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/1496578/apps-exploit-graphics-cards Adobe's KB: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
Oh no, they're falling like flies in a freezer. Man, I feel bad about this, guys. I am so glad to be retired right now. I'm the kind of employee that would be the first to be let go under these circumstances... Unreliable, head in the clouds, never on task, too much chatting with fellow employees. On Aug 7, 2009, at 06:42 , John Sessoms wrote: I feel your pain. Really. Got my pink slip 'bout half an hour ago. I am, as they say, now free to pursue other interests. From: David J Brooks Bummer to hear Larry. I was given the bronze handshake back in 2007. It all works out in the end i have found. Keep your head up. Dave On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a whole bunch more time for photography. I just got laid off. It's a good thing I didn't buy that 16-50. expect a big fs friday post real soon. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - 2469
4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket (anorak). Drop me a hint if the PP is off the mark. I don't trust this laptop screen... Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting exhibition coming up
On Aug 7, 2009, at 07:02 , John Sessoms wrote: I watched a young lady at the dog park yesterday. She got a message on her iPhone (white) at least every minute, and replied to every one faster than I can type with a keyboard. I hope she's not crippled in the thumbs by the time she's 30. I'm safe from that. I don't have an iPhone, and the battery on my cell phone is only good for a couple of hours. Don't have text messaging or internet on the phone. All I have on the cell phone is it rings if someone does happen to call and voice mail in case the battery is dead or I forgot to take it off the charger when I left the house. Don't have a cell phone. It's quiet no matter where I am. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon
Hope you're very pleased with it, Brian. Look forward to some shots. Jack --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 1:55 PM On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:25 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I had the DA*60~250 in mind, but first wanted to try the DA55~300. The DA*60~250 has now been relegated to the back of my mind. Given its price it was never in the front of mine. I've just picked up a 55-300 to replace my defective 80-320. I haven't had an opportunity to put it through its paces yet but, judging by your moon shot, I think I've made a good choice. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl Subject: Re: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:59 AM I have mine for 1,5 year, at f/8 or around that it's near perfect. Never looked at the 60-250 ;) Toine 2009/8/7 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 2469
AlunFoto wrote: 4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket (anorak). Drop me a hint if the PP is off the mark. I don't trust this laptop screen... Don't know about the PP but I can hint about something else... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 2469
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:48 +0200, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket (anorak). How on earth did they fit all of those people on the summit!? My congratulations - a great effort. Drop me a hint if the PP is off the mark. I don't trust this laptop screen... PP looks fine to me. I particularly like the second image. I don't know why but somehow I expected your tallest mountain to be higher. Australia is generally thought of as being hot, dry and fairly flat but our highest mountain (Mount Kosciuszko) at 2228 metres is closer in height to Galdhøpiggen than I expected. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - 2469
4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket (anorak). Drop me a hint if the PP is off the mark. I don't trust this laptop screen... Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com Very enjoyable - nice to trek through the snow like that. Our highest so-called mountain, Scafell Pike, is less than 1,000m. When I went to the top it was February and the snow was up to my hips, but it was very enjoyable - I imagine your trek would be even more so. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6
At 04:00 PM 8/7/2009, you wrote: I would of thought that you might be able to pick up a used 80-320 within the $250 limit, although you might have to be patient. Yes, I can get another 80-320 within this limit. And to answer someone else's question, my brother-in-law who dropped the lens is giving me enough dough to replace it. I am just looking around to see what options are favored by other Pentax users. Thanks for all of your input, Tony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
On 8/4/09, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: 2009/8/3 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Mine is a good degree off. Way too much. I really wish we could get Frank's input on this. Frank's cameras all lean to the left. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
Sorry to hear this Larry. But as you say, it gives a whole bunch more time for photography. That's the right mindset. You will be ok. -- MaritimTim 2009/8/6 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: I've got a whole bunch more time for photography. I just got laid off. It's a good thing I didn't buy that 16-50. expect a big fs friday post real soon. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: PESO - 2469
I live between to particularly lofty peaks here in the state of Washington. On a good day (winter, day after a storm) I can see them both clearly. Mt. Rainier - 4392 meters, 14,411 feet, 105 km or 65 miles to my south linearly Mt. Baker - 3286 meters, 10,781 feet 90 km or 56 miles to my north linearly But I will never climb either one! On Aug 7, 2009, at 15:04 , Brian Walters wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:48 +0200, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket (anorak). How on earth did they fit all of those people on the summit!? My congratulations - a great effort. Drop me a hint if the PP is off the mark. I don't trust this laptop screen... PP looks fine to me. I particularly like the second image. I don't know why but somehow I expected your tallest mountain to be higher. Australia is generally thought of as being hot, dry and fairly flat but our highest mountain (Mount Kosciuszko) at 2228 metres is closer in height to Galdhøpiggen than I expected. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Pentaxian's Gallery Pentaxian's Website/Blog PESO GESO Sites -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ping
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 6:04 PM Subject: ping again Bob, is there something going on by you that we need to know about? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
- Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:45 AM Subject: Re: today's news John Sessoms wrote: I feel your pain. Really. Got my pink slip 'bout half an hour ago. I am, as they say, now free to pursue other interests. dang. Bummer, John. Hang in there. Hope you can work things out. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: today's news
From: William Robb war...@gmail.com From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: today's news Some of my former colleagues are having to train their own replacements. I really don't envy them. When I hear this sort of thing, it just makes my blood boil. What unabashed nerve on the part of those corporate overlords. Ugh. It's an opportunity, not a challenge. William: I totally agree that the bad luck of losing one's job can turn into opportunity. I've had that experience myself, and, at heart, I'm a firm believer in staying positive and looking for the new bend in the road which hopefully will lead one off the road of bad luck and panic (in the jobloss context). But in today's job market there is a degree of insensitivity combined with exploitation that is hard to stomach--and I feel for folks who are victims of this. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 55~300 Moon
Nice one Jack. Thanks for posting this--seems like the lens is a serious contender. Great detail in that moon. cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 7:29 AM Subject: PESO: DA 55~300 Moon Playing with the DA 55~300. This for those who may be curious. Web image only gives an indication of what I feel is its price belying capability. Jack Comments welcome. K20D, F/8, ISO 100, 300MM, sturdy tripod, VERY heavy crop. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=435 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO The Pirate Farts on Posterous dot com :-)
It's up again. Just sprucing it up a bit and made a post. I'm kind of into it. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: Re: PESO The Pirate Farts on Posterous dot com :-) On Aug 7, 2009, at 05:42 , John Sessoms wrote: From: Christine Aguila just thought I'd try this out. Thanks for the heads up, Godfrey. poterous certainly has a nice clean look. http://caguila.posterous.com/ Taken in the Field Museum lobby--with the pirate exhibit and all . . . Just a little funny. Cheers, Christine Quite funny actually ... there's nothing there. The pirates made off with it, I guess. Hey, RBE, what's up with that? Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 2469
Those are great, Jostein, and I especially love the third one. Really nice there. Hard to tell about PP; the shots render a little blue on my monitor, but maybe there's lots of blue up there. :-) Our tallest peak in Illinois is Charles Mound at 1,125 feet. We just have mounds here in the Midwest :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:48 PM Subject: PESO - 2469 4 images in a blogpost describing the circumstance. I chose to bring the K-7 and the FA 43mm f/1.9 for this, and it proved to be a very nice little combo, fitting into the front pocket of my jacket (anorak). Drop me a hint if the PP is off the mark. I don't trust this laptop screen... Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
