Re: I should use my tax return to pay off credit cards but...

[John Francis]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 09:55:25PM -0400, wendy beard wrote:
> 
> Yes, it's tax time again. And I owe them money :-(

Don't we all?

I'm married to an accountant, so we generally end up owing money to
both the feds and the state - why give them a free loan of your money?

But that's not the big demand on the bank account at present - far
more of a strain is coming because we're doing a complete kitchen
remodel; everything goes out, one interior wall gets modified, and
new floor, cabinets and appliances go in.  The only thing that we
are keeping from the old kitchen is the oven - it's a fairly new
double wall oven - and even that is moving to a new position.

With any luck we'll actually get to use the new kitchen this time;
the last time we upgraded the kitchen my job suddenly switched to
the other side of the country, and so we ended up selling the house
after only a couple of years with our new kitchen.  This one is a
a bit smaller, but somehow seems to end up costing rather more ...


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K-7 and shims, the story goes on

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

I've just returned from Pentax Israel. They couldn't do it. Not because 
they were not capable, but because, as they said, the procedure would 
mean "playing" and lots of time spent. The technician suggested that I 
do it myself, because, he said, no one would take full responsibility 
for their actions should they damage the camera in any way. He offered 
to install the original screen back free of charge (of course) if I fail 
to win the shim game. I don't hold anything against Pentax Israel, and 
if fact I might have expected such a reply - it makes certain sense to me.


Now, if anyone who is coming to Chicago did this or if anyone would be 
willing to help me by explaining the process, I'd be most grateful.


In principle, I would like to come to Chicago with proper screen and A 
50/1.2 lens for general shooting. At very worst, I could postpone the 
shim installation until I actually arrive there should anyone would be 
willing to lend me a hand.


*sigh*

Any help appreciated in advance.

Boris

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Some controversy over photography terms

[Sandy Harris]

The Burning Man festival "requires ticket purchasers to assign to the
group the legal rights of photos and video taken at the festival".
They say this both protects participant privacy and prevents
commercial exploitation. Naturally, the policy is controversial.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/burningman/

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Re: PESO A cliché

[David Mann]

On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

> Another walk, another K-x pano, 4 shots 2x2, rectilinear projection,
> hand held using my trusty old A24/2.8 f4, 1/10th @ ISO2000. Darling
> Harbour Sydney
> 
> http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01350sm.jpg

Brings back memories.  I'll be back there in late November :)

Dave

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Re: OT: Epson R2400

[David Mann]

On Apr 11, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Perry Pellechia wrote:

> The waste pad are not easy to access.  There are several write ups and
> videos on the net but most modify the printer by running tubing
> outside the printer to an external collection bottle.

Oh yes, I was going to do that the next time around.  I still remember that 
day, and not fondly.

I have to admit being completely out of touch with the printer market at the 
moment.  I must get around to printing some more photos.  The walls could use a 
change.

Cheers,
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Re: What I don't like about the K-x

[mike wilson]

drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Damn. I don't care about any of this. I was hoping for a deal breaker to discourage me from buying one. 


The pink ones are hard to come by.


-Original Message-
From: mike wilson 
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:10:30 
To: 

Subject: What I don't like about the K-x

Obvious stuff first:
No aperture simulator.
No manual DOF preview.
No hood on the kit lens.
(BTW, Canon hood for kit lens £12.00; Pentax hood £28.00)
No power/wired remote sockets.
(At least, not standard sockets - there is a custom mains power system)


More subtle things:
The grip is not so good for me but I have large hands.  I do prefer 
small cameras.

I miss the top LCD.
The detent on the function wheel seems less positive.  No problems yet.


Can't complain, really.






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Re: What I don't like about the K-x

[mike wilson]

Boris Liberman wrote:


Mike, can't the hood from other Pentax kit lenses be used on this one???


It can and is.




On 4/10/2010 10:10 PM, mike wilson wrote:


Obvious stuff first:
No aperture simulator.
No manual DOF preview.
No hood on the kit lens.
(BTW, Canon hood for kit lens £12.00; Pentax hood £28.00)
No power/wired remote sockets.
(At least, not standard sockets - there is a custom mains power system)


More subtle things:
The grip is not so good for me but I have large hands. I do prefer small
cameras.
I miss the top LCD.
The detent on the function wheel seems less positive. No problems yet.


Can't complain, really.








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Re: peso - San Fran

[Boris Liberman]

I am thinking that meeting you in Chicago will prove educational to me ;-).

Boris

On 4/8/2010 9:48 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4475982473/
What do you think?

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PESO - Howl

[frank theriault]

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/howl.html

Comments always welcome.

Hope you enjoy.

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Re: PESO 2010 - 033 - GDG

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> ja ... doing a lot but not posting enough. the latest available now ...
>
>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/cafe-computing
>
> comments always appreciated, thanks for looking.
>
> Godfrey

Being as I've been off line for several weeks (only having come back a
few days ago) I've got a lot of "catching up" to do with older PESOs.

I love the humour, colours and composition of this one, Godfrey.  A real winner!

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Re: PESO 2010 - 034 - GDG

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> A flow, a rythym begins to surface ...
> Another photo to enjoy, other stuff in the news
>
>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/tear-42
>
> comments always appreciated, thanks for looking!
>
> Godfrey

Very thought-provoking.  Beautifully composed and rendered, very well seen.

Love it!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Fence

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:10 PM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> Another night shot. Not quite challenging the noise characteristics of
> the K-7 sensor, though. :-)
>
> Blogpost: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/old-fence.html
> Direct link: http://turl.no/8dp

Lovely!

cheers,
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Re: PESO Shooters

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10801215&size=lg

Love those smiles!  Well seen and captured.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891914
>
> Actually, this is part of the Branchburg Diner, the only part still
> active.  The Royal Diner was a separate establishment, farther west on
> the same highway, but it closed years ago.  They Royal had a liquor
> license, which was somehow moved to this location.  It now operates
> mostly as a bar and liquor store, but also has some "snacks."
>
> Comments, criticisms and suggestions welcome.

Love the Christmas lights - likely a year-round feature.  I wonder
what the hell "package goods" are?

cheers,
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Re: Insta-shade for photographing flowers?

[Larry Colen]

On Apr 10, 2010, at 8:52 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Bob W  wrote:


Actually a black velvet cloak would work rather well.


What about a 12" or 14" piece of that black foam board that photos are
mounted to.

Small and light.


But it would still be in direct light.

I'm thinking of just trying a paper grocery bag. It'll fold up and fit  
in my camera bag, the inside would be in shade and even if it doesn't  
come out as perfectly black on the inside, the dark brown would work.  
I'd just need some sort of wire frame to make sure it stays open when  
I'm using it.






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Re: PSO: Branchburg Diner

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Thanks, Frank.
>
> Yes, it was the missing letters that drew my attention to the current
> state of the diner.  The feeling of sadness that generated in turn led
> me to notice the other run-down diner in the area (The Whitehouse
> Diner) and to decide that I should do a series of photos featuring
> these places and other active and abandoned diners in the area.  If
> and when the economy recovers, these places may disappear, and be
> replaced by strip malls.

The "American Diner" seems a vanishing breed;  that you have so many
in your area seems amazing.  Your project to capture them while
they're still available is a brilliant idea.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Unsettled

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Weather here the past few days has been quite variable.  It does make
> for some nice opportunities, though.
>
> Pentax K-x, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 100mm
> ISO 800, 1/400 sec @ f/8, Handheld
> Converted using Lightroom 3 Beta
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-8.htm
>
> Comments welcome.

Now ~that's~ a sky!

Quite beautiful, Bruce.

cheers,
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Little Venice: Staraja Poljana 2010...

[Roman Melihhov]

http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100411134736

^^^ Lotsa snow this winter is causing high water in all the places
usually dry and green by April. Here's my favorite photographic location
about 20 minutes from my home. It's all covered with the water, I call
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Re: Easy Release - iPhone model release form

[David J Brooks]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:56 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> On 4/7/2010 11:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> First I need an iPhone.
>> Then i need to figure out apps.
>> Then i need to find someone willing to let me take their picture.
>>
>> Na.
>>
>> I'll just stick to hiding in bushes for my photos.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> Much Jail time?

Not up here, usually time served and community service.

Dave
>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Cotty  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Might be of interest to some Pentaxians with iPhones...
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> iPhone based model release form, signable on the device at the point of
>>> recording the image.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>  Cotty
>>>
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Re: K-7 and shims, the story goes on

[Larry Colen]

I tried looking up old mail about my improperly shimmed screen, and  
these were the symptoms of when I had two shims rather than one:



When the camera autofocuses the top of the split prism is offset
slightly to the right, and the bottom is offset slightly to the left
showing a disagreement between the camera and the screen.

I just did a quick test and it seems as if the camera is focusing
properly, but the screen isn't.


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Re: PESO - Howl

[David J Brooks]

Love it. Did you have to sit and wait for this one.:-)

Dave

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:24 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/howl.html
>
> Comments always welcome.
>
> Hope you enjoy.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[David J Brooks]

I like this one. The Christmas lights add that tacky touche, which i
love myself.

Dave

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891914
>
> Actually, this is part of the Branchburg Diner, the only part still
> active.  The Royal Diner was a separate establishment, farther west on
> the same highway, but it closed years ago.  They Royal had a liquor
> license, which was somehow moved to this location.  It now operates
> mostly as a bar and liquor store, but also has some "snacks."
>
> Comments, criticisms and suggestions welcome.
>
>
> Dan
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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[John Mullan]

"Package goods" is a term used in the northeast US at least for liquor. In 
Mass at least the law required that liquor when sold at retail must be put 
into a container, hence "Package". Liquor stores were called "Package 
Stores" and in the Boston area at least shortened colloquially to "Packie" .


jm

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On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891914

Actually, this is part of the Branchburg Diner, the only part still
active.  The Royal Diner was a separate establishment, farther west on
the same highway, but it closed years ago.  They Royal had a liquor
license, which was somehow moved to this location.  It now operates
mostly as a bar and liquor store, but also has some "snacks."

Comments, criticisms and suggestions welcome.


Love the Christmas lights - likely a year-round feature.  I wonder
what the hell "package goods" are?

cheers,
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Re: Pentax K20D annoyances (a continuing series).

[Jack Davis]

These sound like arguments you're rehearsing for use on your wife in an attempt 
to convince her to release K-7 funds to you. ;)
I know the tactic well!

Jack

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> From: Tom C 
> Subject: Re: Pentax K20D annoyances (a continuing series).
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 8:34 PM
> "It's exposure system often gives me
> files that take a lot of
> massaging to get good results from."
> 
> If the K7 hadn't fixed this issue I'd have switched
> brands.  I am
> loathe to pick up the K20D and may be have shot with it
> once since
> getting the K7.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:47 PM, P. J. Alling
> 
> wrote:
> > Ok, I'll preface that by saying I actually like the
> K20D a lot.  True it's
> > quite a bit bigger than any other Pentax camera I own,
> Film or digital.  It
> > doesn't have an aperature simulator, (yea, that still
> torques me off a bit,
> > so sue me), It's exposure system often gives me files
> that take a lot of
> > massaging to get good results from.  However over all
> it's a using it is a
> > very positive experience.
> >
> > Just a couple of days ago I had an experience that
> just takes the cake.  I
> > was changing SD cards when I fumble fingered the
> camera and dropped it.
> >
> > The good news was I had the strap over one shoulder...
>  Which was also the
> > bad news.
> >
> > The strap managed to impart a radial motion to the
> camera, and in a freak
> > circumstance that I don't think that I could
> accomplish if I tried the SD
> > card door latch, (the part of the latch that clicks
> into the camera body,
> > caught my belt loop...  AND SHEARED OFF!
> >
> > Apparently that little plastic extrusion is more
> fragile than you'd expect.
> >
> > Also the strap wasn't as securely on my shoulder as I
> would have hoped and
> > after being slowed the entire camera hit the wooden
> floor I was standing on,
> > (imparting a slight bend to the left hand strap lug.
> >
> >
> > Now I ask you.  What happens if the SD Door latch
> doesn't engage?  Yes
> > that's right the camera won't operate.  The micro
> switch that tells the
> > camera the door is closed is inside the latch,
> /rendering/ /the/ /entire/
> > /camera/ USELESS!
> >
> >
> > Ok, I'm  calm again.
> >
> >
> > So we're back to the good news bad news again.
> >
> > Good news. I was able to recover the plastic doohicky
> that used to be part
> > of the SD door latch.
> >
> > Bad news. No glue that I have available to me will
> hold that piece of
> > plastic in the right place, (I knew it wouldn't work
> but I just had to try.
> >  Well didn't I?)
> >
> > Good news, my field expedient, (after much language
> not appropriate to a
> > family list), to simply the the plastic doohicky to
> sit in the latch with
> > the door closed, (gaffers tape is wonderful stuff),
> seems to work, it even
> > stays put, if I remember to not use the open control
> allowing the camera to
> > take photos.
> >
> > The bad news is know I'm just going to loose it
> changing cards in the field
> > eventually.
> >
> > So it's off to Pentax repair...
> >
> > eventually.
> >
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Re: PESO - Howl

[Jack Davis]

What great timing!! Congrats, Frank.

Jack

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> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Howl
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 3:24 AM
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/howl.html
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> Hope you enjoy.
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Re: What I don't like about the K-x

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Not helping, Mike ;-)

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:24 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Damn. I don't care about any of this. I was hoping for a deal breaker to
>> discourage me from buying one.
>
> The pink ones are hard to come by.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mike wilson 
>> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:10:30 To: 
>> Subject: What I don't like about the K-x
>>
>> Obvious stuff first:
>> No aperture simulator.
>> No manual DOF preview.
>> No hood on the kit lens.
>> (BTW, Canon hood for kit lens £12.00; Pentax hood £28.00)
>> No power/wired remote sockets.
>> (At least, not standard sockets - there is a custom mains power system)
>>
>>
>> More subtle things:
>> The grip is not so good for me but I have large hands.  I do prefer small
>> cameras.
>> I miss the top LCD.
>> The detent on the function wheel seems less positive.  No problems yet.
>>
>>
>> Can't complain, really.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: Attention PDML Exhibit Participants

[Mark Roberts]

annsan wrote:


artist's statements always seem like pompus 
nonsense to me,mostly  highfalutin' BS.  Oh well.


I'll bet Scott Loveless' artist's statement is the only one that 
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Re: Loukas' Diner

[Cotty]

On 10/4/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I fixed the spelling error in your post for you.

Thanks mate.

At least I know I'm not killfiled ;-)

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Re: Panoramic disc - WTB and info wanted

[Leon Altoff]

Hi Ecke,

Thanks for that.  I've always liked the look of the Novoflex gear, but
it's not really available locally.  It's good to have a first hand
recommendation.  I'll have to see about sourcing it from Germany (the
Novoflex web site lets me enter an Australian address, but I have yet
to check on shipping).

Leon


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> Hi Leon
>
> (ended up writing more than I want to, hope it is clear)
>
> I haven't used the Gitzo yet so I can't comment on that but as opposed
> to Gitzo, Novoflex makes very complete macro and panorama systems
> consisting of mutually interchangeable parts so you can gradually
> expand with dual use for quite a number of items.
>
> If you look here the Novoflex equivalent to the Gitzo, i.e. the base
> model 'PANORAMA'  is actually $90.90 cheaper
> http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/panorama-photography/panorama-plates/
>
> Scroll down a bit for the ones I use, 'PANORAMA=Q' and 'PANORAMA=Q
> PRO'. I am extremely happy with both of them under use with rigs
> weighing up to 5 kilos plus (sometimes massive) leverage factor. There
> is no shakiness and no sign of stiction or torsion/distortion.
> Novoflex produces in-house to very tight specs, everything is laser
> cut or CNC machined, their service is truly excellent and so is their
> engineering. I don't know the exact load-bearing specs but I think
> they'd beat the Gitzo (and I can find out if you want).
>
> The reasons I recommend Novoflex over Gitzo in this particular case are:
>
> Since I feel it is better to place the plate between ballhead and rig
> rather than between tripod and ballhead (why rotate additional weight
> and have an additional source of angle/levelling errors?) I feel the
> plate might as well have quick release included -  'PANORAMA=Q' is
> fully Arca Swiss / Markins / RRS / you name it compatible and you'd
> still save fourty bucks on the Gitzo. Really very nice. Plus it can
> stay on your ballhead all the time assuming you use Arca style QR.
>
> The 'Q PRO' costs two Gitzos but if you have the money to burn (quote
> from Novoflex) it is quite convenient: With the rotary selector button
> 8 different click-stop-positions (angle steps) can be set. The
> adjustment possibilities are from 360° = stepless, 60° = 6
> click-stops, 45° = 8 click-stops, 36° = 10 click-stops, 30° = 12
> click-stops, 24° = 15 click-stops, 20° = 18 click-stops, 15° =24
> click-stops to 10° = 36 click-stops. With the crossed spirit levels
> the panorama plate (PANORAMA=Q PRO) is aligned accurately.
>
> This is extremely useful if you ever want to upgrade to shooting multi
> row or sphaeric panos. Less stitching issues with reproducible angles.
> And so on, bla bla bla.
>
> If you look at their panorama and macro systems side by side, you can
> easily see how things fit together and define your starting point.
> Meaning of course you don't have to lug around separate pano and macro
> kits, I can only repeat that, it is a big weight saver =)
>
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Re: OT - iPad: Will It Blend?

[Cotty]

On 11/4/10, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It's not all gratuitous destructiveness on BlendTec:
>
>http://www.blendtec.com/willitblend/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=olympus2

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Re: PESO - Howl

[Cotty]

On 11/4/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/howl.html
>
>Comments always welcome.
>
>Hope you enjoy.

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Re: matte or glossy

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "paul stenquist"

Subject: Re: matte or glossy



When I was making fine art B&W prints, I was printing on air dried fibre 
based glossy paper. This gave the paper a bit of a sheen without being 
overly glossy.


Epson exhibition fibre comes close to matching that look.


Thanks Paul. Now I just have to find a digital B&W printing option that I 
like.
The colour stuff on the Photo Rag that I am getting with my 4800 is truly 
lovely.


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Re: PESO: CA Pelicans

[Rick Womer]

I really like the first one--pelicans flying in formation!

Rick

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> We thoroughly enjoyed the short trip
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> 
> I've saved a number of eclectic shots, but will resist
> posting others... for the moment.
> 
> Shot in Moss Landing.
> 
> Jack
> 
> Comments welcomed.
> 
> K20, DA* 50~135, hand held
> 
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=477
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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Frank and David.  The Royal is nothing if not "tacky."

Dan M

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:21 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> I like this one. The Christmas lights add that tacky touche, which i
> love myself.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891914
>>
>> Actually, this is part of the Branchburg Diner, the only part still
>> active.  The Royal Diner was a separate establishment, farther west on
>> the same highway, but it closed years ago.  They Royal had a liquor
>> license, which was somehow moved to this location.  It now operates
>> mostly as a bar and liquor store, but also has some "snacks."
>>
>> Comments, criticisms and suggestions welcome.
>>
>>
>> Dan
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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You are right John.  In Jersey, as in Mass, "package goods" means
liquor, wine and beer sold for off-premises consumption.  There are
different licenses here;  most package goods stores are not licensed
to serve alcohol in the store.  One needs a bar license for that.
Some places, like the Royal, are licensed to sell for both on-premises
and off-premises consumption.

Dan

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:46 AM, John Mullan  wrote:
> "Package goods" is a term used in the northeast US at least for liquor. In
> Mass at least the law required that liquor when sold at retail must be put
> into a container, hence "Package". Liquor stores were called "Package
> Stores" and in the Boston area at least shortened colloquially to "Packie" .
>
> jm
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> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:37 AM
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Royal Diner
>
>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891914
>>>
>>> Actually, this is part of the Branchburg Diner, the only part still
>>> active.  The Royal Diner was a separate establishment, farther west on
>>> the same highway, but it closed years ago.  They Royal had a liquor
>>> license, which was somehow moved to this location.  It now operates
>>> mostly as a bar and liquor store, but also has some "snacks."
>>>
>>> Comments, criticisms and suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Love the Christmas lights - likely a year-round feature.  I wonder
>> what the hell "package goods" are?
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
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Re: PSO: Branchburg Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for looking and commenting, Frank.

New Jersey was the center of diner culture.  Every town had at least
one downtown, and there was one every few miles on most major
highways.  Some, like the Flemington Circle Diner, became tourist
attractions, with people driving from New York to sample the legendary
cheesecake.

Most are gone, and others (like Whitehouse and Branchburg) are
abandoned.  In the last decade or so, however, a number have be
rehabilitated and a few new ones -- like Loukas' -- have been built
new from scratch.

Dan

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:00 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> Thanks, Frank.
>>
>> Yes, it was the missing letters that drew my attention to the current
>> state of the diner.  The feeling of sadness that generated in turn led
>> me to notice the other run-down diner in the area (The Whitehouse
>> Diner) and to decide that I should do a series of photos featuring
>> these places and other active and abandoned diners in the area.  If
>> and when the economy recovers, these places may disappear, and be
>> replaced by strip malls.
>
> The "American Diner" seems a vanishing breed;  that you have so many
> in your area seems amazing.  Your project to capture them while
> they're still available is a brilliant idea.
>
> cheers,
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Re: Attention PDML Exhibit Participants

[Jack Davis]

LoL..!!

J

--- On Sun, 4/11/10, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> From: Mark Roberts 
> Subject: Re: Attention PDML Exhibit Participants
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 6:01 AM
> annsan wrote:
> > 
> > artist's statements always seem like pompus nonsense
> to me,mostly  highfalutin' BS.  Oh well.
> 
> I'll bet Scott Loveless' artist's statement is the only one
> that includes the phrase "nekkid wimmen".
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Re: PESO: CA Pelicans

[Jack Davis]

Appreciated, Rick!

Jack

--- On Sun, 4/11/10, Rick Womer  wrote:

> From: Rick Womer 
> Subject: Re: PESO: CA Pelicans
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 6:27 AM
> I really like the first one--pelicans
> flying in formation!
> 
> Rick
> 
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> 
> > We thoroughly enjoyed the short trip
> > mentioned a few days ago. Am attaching a couple
> > "souvenirs."
> > 
> > I've saved a number of eclectic shots, but will
> resist
> > posting others... for the moment.
> > 
> > Shot in Moss Landing.
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > Comments welcomed.
> > 
> > K20, DA* 50~135, hand held
> > 
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=477
> > 
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PESO: Another Cormorant, mostly.

[Cory Waters]

http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835_9yqag#833385854_ec9kq-A-LB

Imagine my glee when I found these guys in a park in Cincinnati.

CW

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Re: GESO - once a little girl

[Boris Liberman]

Precious moments there, Doug. Congratulations on your legal victory.

On 3/31/2010 8:59 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

I think I've mentioned that we had a grand niece come live with us. I
know she's shown up in a few photos here and there.

But anyway, Monday morning we made another trip to family court, where
we were given permanent custody of her, so here are a few photos of her
in celebration:

http://www.alphoto.com/images/oncealittlegirl/

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Re: Pentax on YouTube (With an Infamous Historical Figure)

[P. J. Alling]

The gift that keeps on giving.


On 4/8/2010 4:57 PM, jtainter wrote:

I guess this hasn't been posted here yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B5nh--rNFM

This is thanks to Joe Obiba at dpreview:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=35007492

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Re: PESO A cliché

[Christian Skofteland]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:18:15PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
> Hi Team,
> 
> Another walk, another K-x pano, 4 shots 2x2, rectilinear projection,
> hand held using my trusty old A24/2.8 f4, 1/10th @ ISO2000. Darling
> Harbour Sydney
> 
> http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01350sm.jpg
> 
> Cheers,

You practically live in Darling Harbour...  Nice pano, love the vertical lines.
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Re: Attention PDML Exhibit Participants

[Doug Brewer]

Dang. Re-write.

On Apr 11, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:


annsan wrote:
artist's statements always seem like pompus nonsense to me,mostly   
highfalutin' BS.  Oh well.


I'll bet Scott Loveless' artist's statement is the only one that  
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Re: Can anyone identify this body, please? (maybe WTB, 5 hours to, go)

[P. J. Alling]

They're not, and nobody really loves 'em anymore.  You should be able to 
pick one up for under $10.00 in good working condition, but that's 
pretty much true for anything other than an LX or MX, or maybe the MZ/ZX 
series that Pentax still repairs.


On 4/9/2010 11:44 AM, eckinator wrote:

ty =) I ended up missing it but it doesn't look overly rare...

2010/4/9 John Sessoms:
   

From: eckinator
 

eBay listing 140395561019
all I need is a film body to go onto my bellows, don't care what it
can do except maybe metering
Thanks in advance to all
Ecke
   

P-series - P3/P30, P3n/P30n, or P30T

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Re: Little Venice: Staraja Poljana 2010...

[Bob Sullivan]

Roman,
My condolences on the loss of your President and 90+ others at the
Smolensk airport.  The city and the Katyn Forest will be remembered
forever as the resting place of many proud Poles.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100411134736
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> ^^^ Lotsa snow this winter is causing high water in all the places
> usually dry and green by April. Here's my favorite photographic location
> about 20 minutes from my home. It's all covered with the water, I call
> it small Venice in 2010.
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Re: PESO - Howl

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
Love the posture of the dog.  He seems to be slinking away from the
sculpture with his tail down...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:19 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Love it. Did you have to sit and wait for this one.:-)
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:24 AM, frank theriault
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>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/howl.html
>>
>> Comments always welcome.
>>
>> Hope you enjoy.
>>
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Re: Little Venice: Staraja Poljana 2010...

[mike wilson]

Roman's from Tallin, in Estonia.  Which does not detract from your 
condolences that I assume all of us feel.


Bob Sullivan wrote:


Roman,
My condolences on the loss of your President and 90+ others at the
Smolensk airport.  The city and the Katyn Forest will be remembered
forever as the resting place of many proud Poles.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Roman Melihhov  wrote:


http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100411134736

^^^ Lotsa snow this winter is causing high water in all the places
usually dry and green by April. Here's my favorite photographic location
about 20 minutes from my home. It's all covered with the water, I call
it small Venice in 2010.



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OT -- What every iPad needs!

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http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=41296440

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Re: 300mm Kitlens

[Toine]

Yes it does have a filter like element on the mount side. I can't
remove it manually. Tried a UV filter today and my impression is
sharpness has improved, almost razor sharp. Focusing is very
difficult. It pops in and out of focus maybe I need a Katz screen.

Toine

On 11 April 2010 04:36, Graydon  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 04:11:27PM +0200, Toine scripsit:
>> Thanks, I'll try that with a UV filter. I knew that some lens designs
>> need a filter at the end of their optical path. This one doesn't have
>> a filter thread at the end.
>
> Even when you unscrew the kmount part?  I've wound up with a bizarre
> collection of 30.5mm filters, and interesting scars from figuring out
> how to screw the filter into a place that assumes either specialized
> tools or very thin fingers.
>
>> The softness is only visible when the lens
>> is fully extended at 2.5 meter focussing range. It has optical parts
>> in the front and rear. The rear parts don't move during focussing.
>> Most likely the contraption is optimized at infinity.
>
> Quite possible.  I've certainly never seen the lens you've got, so I'm
> speaking in generalities.
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Re: PESO - Howl

[P N Stenquist]

I like it. Very melancholy, very Ginsberg
"dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn"

On Apr 11, 2010, at 6:24 AM, frank theriault wrote:


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/04/howl.html

Comments always welcome.

Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Another Cormorant, mostly.

[David J Brooks]

Well, this one would be cleaner than most.:-0

Dave

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> http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835_9yqag#833385854_ec9kq-A-LB
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> Imagine my glee when I found these guys in a park in Cincinnati.
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Re: 300mm Kitlens

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On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 06:52:16PM +0200, Toine scripsit:
> Yes it does have a filter like element on the mount side. I can't
> remove it manually. Tried a UV filter today and my impression is
> sharpness has improved, almost razor sharp. Focusing is very
> difficult. It pops in and out of focus maybe I need a Katz screen.

Katz screens are helpful, but focusing being difficult is an inherent
property of catadioptric designs; the plane of focus is very flat and
has no depth to speak of (most but not all of a blackbird (treating
North American robins and the Eurasian blackbird as equivalent units of
measurement) at 20m, plane-of-focus depth.). 

This is great for many applications, especially off support, but it's
something of a trick for hand-held shooting.  I can manage one in five
shots having the plane of focus more or less where I want it handheld on
a very good day with something to lean against.  Some days it is more
like one in 15.

-- Graydon

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Peso Not a cormorant

[David J Brooks]

A friend of mine works for York Region, and he told me Friday of this
bird rookery, just West of one of our major Hwy's.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10901470

Not a great shot. I knew they would be far back from the road, so i
used the D200 and the Sigma 170-500, at 500. (I was going to use the
K10D and Sigma 300 with 1.4 tele, but could not find the tele) Its not
a great lens on digital, maybe better on a film body, but i have never
tried it. Not very contrasty and its soft.
No tripod, i forgot it, so i shot from the passenger side and used the
window as a tripod.

Any way, here it is.:-)

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Re: PESO A cliché

[Rick Womer]

That ain't no cliche, it's a beautiful photo!  I like the way the moon balances 
the reflections on the water, and the connection the masts and flagpole make 
between the two.  A minor quibble is that everything is rather centered 
side-to-side.

Rick


http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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> Subject: PESO A cliché
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 5:18 AM
> Hi Team,
> 
> Another walk, another K-x pano, 4 shots 2x2, rectilinear
> projection,
> hand held using my trusty old A24/2.8 f4, 1/10th @ ISO2000.
> Darling
> Harbour Sydney
> 
> http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01350sm.jpg
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: For sale (ads seen on craigslist boston) ... da 14 for $420 and fa 35 for $350

[P. J. Alling]

On 4/8/2010 11:26 PM, Sam L wrote:

These seem like pretty good deals, so I thought I would pass the info
on to the list in case anyone is looking to satisfy some LBA.

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/1683279614.html
Pentax FA 35mm f2 AL - $350 (Harvard SQ)
   


When this was still available new, that's what B&H was selling it for.


http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/1683276422.html
Pentax DA 14mm F2.8 Lens - $420 (Harvard Square)
   


That is a better price than KEH wants for one in "Like New" condition.  
However  KEH is a known quantity.




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RE: tripod advice sought

[John Sessoms]

From: Graydon

OK, so I want to stick about 5 kg of spotting scope (127mm catadioptric)
on a tripod; I've figured out that a Jobu Designs gimbal head will work
with something that size, so I'm OK for answering "what head do I get?"
but am currently wandering off into the weeds in all directions trying
to sort out tripod legs.

Ideally, I want something that:
- has no centre column


I believe most Gitzo tripods allow you to unscrew the center column from 
the platform at the top and use the platform by itself.


The Manfrotto 190XWNB (which appears to be an improved Bogen 3021) has a 
 "low angle adapter" built into the center column. Basically you take 
the bottom off the center column, flip it over and insert it in place of 
the center column and it has a 3/8" threaded stud for mounting whatever 
head you want. That gets you down as low as 3.3"


It has retractable spiked feet, but only extends to 46-1/2" without the 
center column. It's about $200 from B&H.



- is about 54" high fully extended (52 is not too low, but 50" is;
  56" would be usable)
- isn't heavy
- isn't Feisol, since I though the 3442 would be about ideal and
  they just bait-and-switched me (got an email saying they wouldn't
  fulfil the order taken by their online ordering system at that price)
- has, or has the option of, spike feet
- can be had in Canada without resort to surreptitious parachuting

And, of course, doesn't cost the earth.  I figured the collective wisdom
of the list would be a good place to start enquires, and since I do
intend to attach the thing to a Pentax camera (1500/f12; better be a
sunny day...) some of the time it's even on topic!

-- Graydon


In your position, I'd just browse B&H's web site and find the one that 
fits my needs and then look for a place in Canada that stocks it at a 
price I was willing to pay.


In my position, I'd just order what I need from B&H (if one of my two 
local independent camera stores didn't stock it), since I don't have to 
hassle with customs to get stuff from NYC.


Although I think the hassles come from Canadaian Customs rather than 
from B&H.


And at that, I thought Canada was part of NAFTA. Why *IS* there a hassle 
with Canadian Customs?



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RE: Some controversy over photography terms

[John Sessoms]

From: Sandy Harris

The Burning Man festival "requires ticket purchasers to assign to the
group the legal rights of photos and video taken at the festival".
They say this both protects participant privacy and prevents
commercial exploitation. Naturally, the policy is controversial.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/burningman/


Yeah, I've encountered a couple of other places with the same kind of 
asshole policies. I won't shoot there unless they're going to pay me.


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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

Love the Christmas lights - likely a year-round feature.  I wonder
what the hell "package goods" are?


Distilled spirits.

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Re: tripod advice sought

[Graydon]

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 02:17:03PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit:
[snip my tripod laundry list]
> In your position, I'd just browse B&H's web site and find the one
> that fits my needs and then look for a place in Canada that stocks
> it at a price I was willing to pay.

Nobody does, so I actually ordered from B&H.  (Which I feel is fair;
I've been using their website as a search resource for awhile.)

Wound up with "Cullmann Magnesit 528C Carbon Fiber Tripod Legs", which
might be slightly short but this is probably survivable.  (I don't
actually know how much tripod head to eyepiece clearance I'll have to
with the scope that isn't here yet, so I'm guessing.  I hate guessing.)

> In my position, I'd just order what I need from B&H (if one of my
> two local independent camera stores didn't stock it), since I don't
> have to hassle with customs to get stuff from NYC.
> 
> Although I think the hassles come from Canadaian Customs rather than
> from B&H.

Sometimes.  Sometimes they come from somebody at the shipping company
just losing things, but you have to wait until it could not possibly
still be stuck in customs before complaining.

> And at that, I thought Canada was part of NAFTA. Why *IS* there a
> hassle with Canadian Customs?

Load, mostly.  They have to collect either GST or HST, depending on
which province, and if they're understaffed for the current peak load
(which they ought to be about half the time...), things are slow.  There
have historically been various morality hassles and people enacting
their own political agendas, too, which I am not pleased about but don't
expect to apply to tripods.

-- Graydon

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Re: PSO: Branchburg Diner

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> Thanks, Frank.
>
> Yes, it was the missing letters that drew my attention to the current
> state of the diner. ?The feeling of sadness that generated in turn led
> me to notice the other run-down diner in the area (The Whitehouse
> Diner) and to decide that I should do a series of photos featuring
> these places and other active and abandoned diners in the area. ?If
> and when the economy recovers, these places may disappear, and be
> replaced by strip malls.


The "American Diner" seems a vanishing breed;  that you have so many
in your area seems amazing.  Your project to capture them while
they're still available is a brilliant idea.


While they may be dying in the north, new ones are being built and 
opened in the South. There are a couple of franchise outfits opening 
them - 5 & Diner and Shiny Diner I think.


Shiny Diner is from the same folks who originally took the Hardee's 
chain nationwide.


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Re: Panoramic disc - WTB and info wanted

[eckinator]

Hi Leon
I can be of assistance if you want/need; I am in touch with them quite
frequently. No idea though how to slip it past customs unnoticed,
you'll have to help with that ]=)
Cheers
Ecke

2010/4/11 Leon Altoff :
> Hi Ecke,
>
> Thanks for that.  I've always liked the look of the Novoflex gear, but
> it's not really available locally.  It's good to have a first hand
> recommendation.  I'll have to see about sourcing it from Germany (the
> Novoflex web site lets me enter an Australian address, but I have yet
> to check on shipping).
>
> Leon
>
>
> On 11 April 2010 03:17, eckinator  wrote:
>> Hi Leon
>>
>> (ended up writing more than I want to, hope it is clear)
>>
>> I haven't used the Gitzo yet so I can't comment on that but as opposed
>> to Gitzo, Novoflex makes very complete macro and panorama systems
>> consisting of mutually interchangeable parts so you can gradually
>> expand with dual use for quite a number of items.
>>
>> If you look here the Novoflex equivalent to the Gitzo, i.e. the base
>> model 'PANORAMA'  is actually $90.90 cheaper
>> http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/panorama-photography/panorama-plates/
>>
>> Scroll down a bit for the ones I use, 'PANORAMA=Q' and 'PANORAMA=Q
>> PRO'. I am extremely happy with both of them under use with rigs
>> weighing up to 5 kilos plus (sometimes massive) leverage factor. There
>> is no shakiness and no sign of stiction or torsion/distortion.
>> Novoflex produces in-house to very tight specs, everything is laser
>> cut or CNC machined, their service is truly excellent and so is their
>> engineering. I don't know the exact load-bearing specs but I think
>> they'd beat the Gitzo (and I can find out if you want).
>>
>> The reasons I recommend Novoflex over Gitzo in this particular case are:
>>
>> Since I feel it is better to place the plate between ballhead and rig
>> rather than between tripod and ballhead (why rotate additional weight
>> and have an additional source of angle/levelling errors?) I feel the
>> plate might as well have quick release included -  'PANORAMA=Q' is
>> fully Arca Swiss / Markins / RRS / you name it compatible and you'd
>> still save fourty bucks on the Gitzo. Really very nice. Plus it can
>> stay on your ballhead all the time assuming you use Arca style QR.
>>
>> The 'Q PRO' costs two Gitzos but if you have the money to burn (quote
>> from Novoflex) it is quite convenient: With the rotary selector button
>> 8 different click-stop-positions (angle steps) can be set. The
>> adjustment possibilities are from 360° = stepless, 60° = 6
>> click-stops, 45° = 8 click-stops, 36° = 10 click-stops, 30° = 12
>> click-stops, 24° = 15 click-stops, 20° = 18 click-stops, 15° =24
>> click-stops to 10° = 36 click-stops. With the crossed spirit levels
>> the panorama plate (PANORAMA=Q PRO) is aligned accurately.
>>
>> This is extremely useful if you ever want to upgrade to shooting multi
>> row or sphaeric panos. Less stitching issues with reproducible angles.
>> And so on, bla bla bla.
>>
>> If you look at their panorama and macro systems side by side, you can
>> easily see how things fit together and define your starting point.
>> Meaning of course you don't have to lug around separate pano and macro
>> kits, I can only repeat that, it is a big weight saver =)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ecke
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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[John Sessoms]

From: "John Mullan"
"Package goods" is a term used in the northeast US at least for liquor. In 
Mass at least the law required that liquor when sold at retail must be put 
into a container, hence "Package". Liquor stores were called "Package 
Stores" and in the Boston area at least shortened colloquially to "Packie" .


I think it's technically liquor for take out. Local liquor laws allow 
bars with the correct license to also sell bottles for consumption off 
premises.


If closing time / "last call" comes and you aren't finished drinking, 
you can buy a bottle to take with you.


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Re: tripod advice sought

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms"

Subject: RE: tripod advice sought





And at that, I thought Canada was part of NAFTA. Why *IS* there a hassle 
with Canadian Customs?




We though the USA was part of NAFTA, but there always seems to be some sort 
of protectionist sanction going on that was covered by NAFTA but arbitrarily 
ignored by one government or the other (usually the US).


However, NAFTA's scope covers trade of goods manufactured within the 
signatory countries, not trade of goods manufactured by third party 
countries.
So, a tripod that is made in Taiwan, and imported to the USA would be 
subject to duties when it is subsequently imported to Canada, since Taiwan 
is not part of NAFTA.


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Re: What I don't like about the K-x

[mike wilson]

Paul Sorenson wrote:

You can set the green button function to "Optical Preview" and that will 
give you stop-down DOF.  Begins on p179 of my manual.  Look for "Setting 
the Green Button Function".


-p


At first, I was ticked off that DOF preview required battery power. 
Then I realised that the previous system was probably not mechanical, 
either.




On 4/10/2010 4:31 PM, mike wilson wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote:


mike wilson wrote:


No manual DOF preview.




See instruction manual, page 132



Not mine.  That's halfway through shooting with the self-timer.




No hood on the kit lens.
(BTW, Canon hood for kit lens £12.00; Pentax hood £28.00)




Don't buy it and be happy. A friend of mine bought the optional hood, 
and suddenly got worse reflections that not using the hood.
(apparently, the inner part of the hood is not matte enough, so that 
it reflects extra stray light onto ther lens)



Useful to know.



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PAW14 - spring 2

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http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

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Re: PSO: Branchburg Diner

[John Sessoms]

From: "Daniel J. Matyola"

Thanks for looking and commenting, Frank.

New Jersey was the center of diner culture.  Every town had at least
one downtown, and there was one every few miles on most major
highways.  Some, like the Flemington Circle Diner, became tourist
attractions, with people driving from New York to sample the legendary
cheesecake.

Most are gone, and others (like Whitehouse and Branchburg) are
abandoned.  In the last decade or so, however, a number have be
rehabilitated and a few new ones -- like Loukas' -- have been built
new from scratch.


Got me thinking. There used to be a diner in downtown Raleigh, but I 
can't remember the name to save my life. We used to go down there on 
Wednesday nights for their $0.99 "Hamburger Steak w/onions & gravy" 
platter. Starving Student days.


It got torn down in the early 70s.

Funny thing is, whatever was built on the site was demolished and 
replaced some time in the early 90s, and THAT building has now been 
demolished so the city can build a parking garage at that location.


So much that was worthwhile in Raleigh was demolished to make way for junk.

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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

[Bruce Walker]

DagT wrote:

http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

K20D, DA*16-50 @50mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200 


DagT
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Awesome!  I love that image.

How many times did you get the cyclist to pass you to perfect that? :-)

-bmw

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PESO -- Fiddlehead

[P. J. Alling]

Spring has arrived

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20fiddlehead.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5.6.

Note:  Nothing very special, just a test to make sure I hadn't done any 
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Re: I should use my tax return to pay off credit cards but...

[gldnbearz]

I feel you, John.

Tax deadline = 4/15

Demo for kitchen remodel = 4/5

The time I was to spend working on taxes was spent packing up the
kitchen and surroundings.  It now leaves time to do tax paperwork
since there's no cooking to be done and 1/3 less house to
"procrastinate" in.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:24 AM, John Francis  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 09:55:25PM -0400, wendy beard wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it's tax time again. And I owe them money :-(
>
> Don't we all?
>
> I'm married to an accountant, so we generally end up owing money to
> both the feds and the state - why give them a free loan of your money?
>
> But that's not the big demand on the bank account at present - far
> more of a strain is coming because we're doing a complete kitchen
> remodel; everything goes out, one interior wall gets modified, and
> new floor, cabinets and appliances go in.  The only thing that we
> are keeping from the old kitchen is the oven - it's a fairly new
> double wall oven - and even that is moving to a new position.
>
> With any luck we'll actually get to use the new kitchen this time;
> the last time we upgraded the kitchen my job suddenly switched to
> the other side of the country, and so we ended up selling the house
> after only a couple of years with our new kitchen.  This one is a
> a bit smaller, but somehow seems to end up costing rather more ...

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Re: PESO A cliché

[Madame RD]

it might have been a cliche without that incredible moon that makes all 
the difference !

dominique


Le 11/04/10 19:26, Rick Womer a écrit :

That ain't no cliche, it's a beautiful photo!  I like the way the moon balances 
the reflections on the water, and the connection the masts and flagpole make 
between the two.  A minor quibble is that everything is rather centered 
side-to-side.

Rick


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From: Rob Studdert
Subject: PESO A cliché
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 5:18 AM
Hi Team,

Another walk, another K-x pano, 4 shots 2x2, rectilinear
projection,
hand held using my trusty old A24/2.8 f4, 1/10th @ ISO2000.
Darling
Harbour Sydney

http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01350sm.jpg

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Re: Some controversy over photography terms

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-04-11 14:23, John Sessoms wrote:


Yeah, I've encountered a couple of other places with the same kind of
asshole policies. I won't shoot there unless they're going to pay me.


I won't buy their tickets or attend their events, either.

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Re: PESO -- Fiddlehead

[Jack Davis]

Nice line, Peter. I'd not be able to resist cloning out the dark background 
blotches just to have a look. Would greatly simplify.

Jack

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> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: PESO -- Fiddlehead
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 1:24 PM
> Spring has arrived
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20fiddlehead.html
> 
> Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm
> f3.8~5.6.
> 
> Note:  Nothing very special, just a test to make sure
> I hadn't done any unknown damage to the K20D when I dropped
> it.
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
> 
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Re: Panoramic disc - WTB and info wanted

[Leon Altoff]

Thanks Ecke,

I may take you up on that.  I'll probably order in a week or so.
Customs into Australia is not a problem, there is no charge if the
value is under AU$1,000.

Leon

On 12 April 2010 04:43, eckinator  wrote:
> Hi Leon
> I can be of assistance if you want/need; I am in touch with them quite
> frequently. No idea though how to slip it past customs unnoticed,
> you'll have to help with that ]=)
> Cheers
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[eckinator]

2010/4/11 Leon Altoff :
> Thanks Ecke,
>
> I may take you up on that.  I'll probably order in a week or so.
> Customs into Australia is not a problem, there is no charge if the
> value is under AU$1,000.

Sweet... what else is good there? ;)

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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[Ken Waller]

For those interested, there's a great book out by a Peter Genouese called 
'Jersey Diners'.
It includes many pictures of diners and answers to some of life's questions 
such as where and how did these diners start; who invented eggs served in a 
skillet and more.


I came across it a few years back while wandering the woods in the Upper 
Peninsula of Michigan in a little berg called Grand Marais. It had its own 
Jersey Diner that had the owner had purchased and moved to Michigan from New 
Jersey. There are several Jersey Diners in Michigan BTW.


I grew up in New Jersey and didn't realize that these little eateries were 
unique to the state.


I've been enjoying your images of the diners Dan.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO: Royal Diner



Thanks, Frank and David.  The Royal is nothing if not "tacky."

Dan M

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:21 AM, David J Brooks  
wrote:

I like this one. The Christmas lights add that tacky touche, which i
love myself.

Dave

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891914

Actually, this is part of the Branchburg Diner, the only part still
active. The Royal Diner was a separate establishment, farther west on
the same highway, but it closed years ago. They Royal had a liquor
license, which was somehow moved to this location. It now operates
mostly as a bar and liquor store, but also has some "snacks."

Comments, criticisms and suggestions welcome.


Dan



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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

[Toine]

Great capture!
Toine

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Re: PESO: Spring Shore Breeze

[Bruce Dayton]

Well, what is interesting about this shot is the perspective.  We
rarely get to see a view of flying kites from a vantage point like
this.  Usually we are seeing a ground perspective.  The compression
of the background also adds to the view.  I rather like it.

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Thursday, April 8, 2010, 1:30:06 PM, you wrote:

JD> Taken from a coastal bluff near the town of Marina, CA. Near Monterey.

JD> Perfect kite day.

JD> Jack

JD> Comments?

JD> K20, DA55-300

JD> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=479



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Re: tripod advice sought

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms" 

Subject: RE: tripod advice sought



From: Graydon

OK, so I want to stick about 5 kg of spotting scope (127mm catadioptric)
on a tripod; I've figured out that a Jobu Designs gimbal head will work
with something that size, so I'm OK for answering "what head do I get?"
but am currently wandering off into the weeds in all directions trying
to sort out tripod legs.

Ideally, I want something that:
- has no centre column


I believe most Gitzo tripods allow you to unscrew the center column from 
the platform at the top and use the platform by itself.


Actually, while you can remove the center column & attaching plate, you must 
replace it with a flat plate that includes just the screw for attaching a 
head.
Of course you can also get most Gitzos with just the flat plate and forego 
the center column altogether. This is how I've purchased the Gitzos I've 
used, as the extendable column lessens the stability of the tripod assembly.


I have a Gitzo 3530LS that can handle all my camera/lenses up and including 
a 600mm and the tripod itself is lighter than the light/medium duty Bogen I 
use to own. Height wise its just right for me & I'm 6'3".


But new Gitzos don't qualify as cheap.



The Manfrotto 190XWNB (which appears to be an improved Bogen 3021) has a 
"low angle adapter" built into the center column. Basically you take the 
bottom off the center column, flip it over and insert it in place of the 
center column and it has a 3/8" threaded stud for mounting whatever head 
you want. That gets you down as low as 3.3"


It has retractable spiked feet, but only extends to 46-1/2" without the 
center column. It's about $200 from B&H.



- is about 54" high fully extended (52 is not too low, but 50" is;
  56" would be usable)
- isn't heavy
- isn't Feisol, since I though the 3442 would be about ideal and
  they just bait-and-switched me (got an email saying they wouldn't
  fulfil the order taken by their online ordering system at that 
price)

- has, or has the option of, spike feet
- can be had in Canada without resort to surreptitious parachuting

And, of course, doesn't cost the earth.  I figured the collective wisdom
of the list would be a good place to start enquires, and since I do
intend to attach the thing to a Pentax camera (1500/f12; better be a
sunny day...) some of the time it's even on topic!

-- Graydon


In your position, I'd just browse B&H's web site and find the one that 
fits my needs and then look for a place in Canada that stocks it at a 
price I was willing to pay.


In my position, I'd just order what I need from B&H (if one of my two 
local independent camera stores didn't stock it), since I don't have to 
hassle with customs to get stuff from NYC.


Although I think the hassles come from Canadaian Customs rather than from 
B&H.


And at that, I thought Canada was part of NAFTA. Why *IS* there a hassle 
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Re: Another Cormorant, mostly.

[Ken Waller]

Looks like the statue is getting ready to strangle it !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Cory Waters" 

Subject: PESO: Another Cormorant, mostly.



http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835_9yqag#833385854_ec9kq-A-LB

Imagine my glee when I found these guys in a park in Cincinnati.

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Re: PESO: Ring Billed Gull

[Bruce Dayton]

You did a great job on this one.  Exposure is particularly nice.

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Thursday, April 8, 2010, 4:42:48 PM, you wrote:


JD> Guess it's all about things that fly today.

JD> Comments welcome.

JD> Jack


JD> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=480


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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

[Cotty]

On 11/4/10, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
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>K20D, DA*16-50 @50mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200

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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

[Ken Waller]

Great capture.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "DagT" 

Subject: PAW14 - spring 2



http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

K20D, DA*16-50 @50mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200 


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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

[Daniel J. Matyola]

What a great image.  Talk about the decisive moment .  .  .

Dan

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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[Ken Waller]

Mispelled the authors name - it should be Genovese.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Waller" 

Subject: Re: PESO: Royal Diner


For those interested, there's a great book out by a Peter Genouese called 
'Jersey Diners'.
It includes many pictures of diners and answers to some of life's 
questions such as where and how did these diners start; who invented eggs 
served in a skillet and more.


I came across it a few years back while wandering the woods in the Upper 
Peninsula of Michigan in a little berg called Grand Marais. It had its own 
Jersey Diner that had the owner had purchased and moved to Michigan from 
New Jersey. There are several Jersey Diners in Michigan BTW.


I grew up in New Jersey and didn't realize that these little eateries were 
unique to the state.


I've been enjoying your images of the diners Dan.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO: Royal Diner



Thanks, Frank and David.  The Royal is nothing if not "tacky."

Dan M

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:21 AM, David J Brooks  
wrote:

I like this one. The Christmas lights add that tacky touche, which i
love myself.

Dave

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
 wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891914

Actually, this is part of the Branchburg Diner, the only part still
active. The Royal Diner was a separate establishment, farther west on
the same highway, but it closed years ago. They Royal had a liquor
license, which was somehow moved to this location. It now operates
mostly as a bar and liquor store, but also has some "snacks."

Comments, criticisms and suggestions welcome.


Dan



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Re: Panoramic disc - WTB and info wanted

[mike wilson]

eckinator wrote:


2010/4/11 Leon Altoff :


Thanks Ecke,

I may take you up on that.  I'll probably order in a week or so.
Customs into Australia is not a problem, there is no charge if the
value is under AU$1,000.



Sweet... what else is good there? ;)


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Re: PESO - Howl

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Great image, wonderful grab!

Where is that sculpture?

Dan

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:24 AM, frank theriault
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> Comments always welcome.
>
> Hope you enjoy.
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> cheers,
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RE: PAW14 - spring 2

[Chris Mitchell]

I love this. Brilliantly done.

Chris

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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ken, for commenting and for the mention of the book.

Dan

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> For those interested, there's a great book out by a Peter Genouese called
> 'Jersey Diners'.
> It includes many pictures of diners and answers to some of life's questions
> such as where and how did these diners start; who invented eggs served in a
> skillet and more.
>
> I came across it a few years back while wandering the woods in the Upper
> Peninsula of Michigan in a little berg called Grand Marais. It had its own
> Jersey Diner that had the owner had purchased and moved to Michigan from New
> Jersey. There are several Jersey Diners in Michigan BTW.
>
> I grew up in New Jersey and didn't realize that these little eateries were
> unique to the state.
>
> I've been enjoying your images of the diners Dan.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
> 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Royal Diner
>
>
>> Thanks, Frank and David.  The Royal is nothing if not "tacky."
>>
>> Dan M
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:21 AM, David J Brooks 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I like this one. The Christmas lights add that tacky touche, which i
>>> love myself.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>>> wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891914

 Actually, this is part of the Branchburg Diner, the only part still
 active. The Royal Diner was a separate establishment, farther west on
 the same highway, but it closed years ago. They Royal had a liquor
 license, which was somehow moved to this location. It now operates
 mostly as a bar and liquor store, but also has some "snacks."

 Comments, criticisms and suggestions welcome.


 Dan
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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[Doug Franklin]

On 2010-04-11 14:43, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "John Mullan"

"Package goods" is a term used in the northeast US at least for
liquor. In Mass at least the law required that liquor when sold at
retail must be put into a container, hence "Package". Liquor stores
were called "Package Stores" and in the Boston area at least shortened
colloquially to "Packie" .


I think it's technically liquor for take out. Local liquor laws allow
bars with the correct license to also sell bottles for consumption off
premises.

If closing time / "last call" comes and you aren't finished drinking,
you can buy a bottle to take with you.


"Package goods"/"Package Store" is pretty common across the US 
Southeast, too.  Generally the local polity will allow "on" licenses and 
"off" licenses for businesses that want to sell alcohol.  "On" licenses 
allow on-premises consumption of the alcohol sold (like bars) while 
"off" licenses are for places selling "packages" to go (like a liquor 
store).  Some polities allow a single business to hold both licenses at 
the same time.  That does not seem to be common in the traditional South 
(excluding Florida), though.


Heck, liquor in the South is such a big deal that some of the stuff gets 
out of hand.  I don't know if they still require it or not, but at one 
time, South Carolina required that liquor stores be covered with big red 
spots.  They also used to allow sales of liquor only between dawn and 
dusk, so the hours of the liquor stores changed every day. :-)


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Re: Panoramic disc - WTB and info wanted

[eckinator]

2010/4/11 Leon Altoff :
>
> I may take you up on that.  I'll probably order in a week or so.
> Customs into Australia is not a problem, there is no charge if the
> value is under AU$1,000.

if you choose to stick with the non-qr version I could hunt this down
for you: eBay 330422981847

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Re: PESO: Sea Otter Lunch

[Bruce Dayton]

I like what you did with this one.  The smooth water in front of the
otter really helps show the movement.  Nicely done.

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Friday, April 9, 2010, 8:21:14 AM, you wrote:

JD> While my wife and I were having lunch on the Monterey Boardwalk,
JD> this character came swimming by, also having a restful snack.

JD> Jack

JD> Comments?

JD> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=482

JD> K20, f/8, 1/1500, ISO 400, da55~...@300


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Re: PSO: Branchburg Diner - speaking of diners

[Larry Colen]

On Apr 11, 2010, at 4:00 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola > wrote:

Thanks, Frank.

Yes, it was the missing letters that drew my attention to the current
state of the diner.  The feeling of sadness that generated in turn  
led

me to notice the other run-down diner in the area (The Whitehouse
Diner) and to decide that I should do a series of photos featuring
these places and other active and abandoned diners in the area.  If
and when the economy recovers, these places may disappear, and be
replaced by strip malls.


The "American Diner" seems a vanishing breed;  that you have so many
in your area seems amazing.  Your project to capture them while
they're still available is a brilliant idea.



I'm definitely getting inspired to go get some shots of diners myself.  
There's a rather scenic one across the street from B&H, which I  
suspect must be one of the most photographed restaurants in the world.


While I'm not a big fan of "breakfast food", except maybe a really  
good chicken fried steak, I do love a good diner.  Maybe there are  
some to be recommended near where things are happening in Chicago.


I've been to a lot of diners on the west coast, and the ones I've been  
to on the drive to Texas (Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas ...) seem  
to be quite similar.  On a trip to New York (white plains) a couple of  
years ago, I was quite taken by the new york diners. I was rather  
tickled to see both Matzoh ball soup and a cuban sandwich on the same  
menu. I didn't get to any diners in Chicago last year, so I'm not  
quite sure what Chicago diners are like.


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Re: K-7 and shims, the story goes on

[Larry Colen]

Boris,

odd, I thought this went out this morning.

I've done screens several times: in and out of my K100, into both  
copies of my k20, with an extra out and in with my shims.   I could  
give you a hand in Chicago.


What I recommend you do:

Set it up with a focus target. Run a test and find out how far it is  
off in which direction.


Remove the shim (make sure it isn't doubled up),  measure it again,  
and see how far off it is in which direction.


Measure the thickness of the shim.  It should be simple math to  
calculate what shim you will need to get the screen adjusted just right.



On Apr 11, 2010, at 1:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

I've just returned from Pentax Israel. They couldn't do it. Not  
because they were not capable, but because, as they said, the  
procedure would mean "playing" and lots of time spent. The  
technician suggested that I do it myself, because, he said, no one  
would take full responsibility for their actions should they damage  
the camera in any way. He offered to install the original screen  
back free of charge (of course) if I fail to win the shim game. I  
don't hold anything against Pentax Israel, and if fact I might have  
expected such a reply - it makes certain sense to me.


Now, if anyone who is coming to Chicago did this or if anyone would  
be willing to help me by explaining the process, I'd be most grateful.


In principle, I would like to come to Chicago with proper screen and  
A 50/1.2 lens for general shooting. At very worst, I could postpone  
the shim installation until I actually arrive there should anyone  
would be willing to lend me a hand.


*sigh*

Any help appreciated in advance.

Boris

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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

[Christine Aguila]

Love it, DagT.  Great picture--composition, rendering, everything excellent. 
Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PAW14 - spring 2



http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

K20D, DA*16-50 @50mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200

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Re: PAW14 - spring 2

[paul stenquist]

Great dynamics. Superb composition. Wonderful concept.
Among the very best photos I've seen here.
Paul
On Apr 11, 2010, at 3:04 PM, DagT wrote:

> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
> 
> K20D, DA*16-50 @50mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200 
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Re: PESO: Royal Diner

[John Sessoms]

From: Doug Franklin

On 2010-04-11 14:43, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: "John Mullan"

>> "Package goods" is a term used in the northeast US at least for
>> liquor. In Mass at least the law required that liquor when sold at
>> retail must be put into a container, hence "Package". Liquor stores
>> were called "Package Stores" and in the Boston area at least shortened
>> colloquially to "Packie" .

>
> I think it's technically liquor for take out. Local liquor laws allow
> bars with the correct license to also sell bottles for consumption off
> premises.
>
> If closing time / "last call" comes and you aren't finished drinking,
> you can buy a bottle to take with you.


"Package goods"/"Package Store" is pretty common across the US 
Southeast, too.  Generally the local polity will allow "on" licenses and 
"off" licenses for businesses that want to sell alcohol.  "On" licenses 
allow on-premises consumption of the alcohol sold (like bars) while 
"off" licenses are for places selling "packages" to go (like a liquor 
store).  Some polities allow a single business to hold both licenses at 
the same time.  That does not seem to be common in the traditional South 
(excluding Florida), though.




Well, the only place I really know the rules is North Carolina, 'cause 
that's where I live and that's where I usually drink.


In NC hard liquor is only available as mixed drinks at clubs & 
restaurants. Packaged, i.e. bottle liquor, is only available from State 
controlled ABC (alcohol beverage control) stores.


I have heard the name package store used as a euphemism for ABC store 
among others. I think my favorite of all time is "going to see Anna 
Belle Carter."


You cannot buy liquor by the bottle from a place that serves mixed drinks.

The one thing North Carolina does that is good is publishes a quarterly 
price list, so you can see what brands are available and the price is 
the same state wide. It even has photos. ;-D


http://www.ncabc.com/pricing/pricebook.aspx

Beer and wine are treated differently. Most places that serve beer or 
wine for on premises consumption can also sell you a bottle or six-pack 
to take with you. And locations that serve mixed drinks and beer and 
wine can sell beer and wine by the bottle, although again it's usually 
going to get marked up to a premium price.


Heck, liquor in the South is such a big deal that some of the stuff gets 
out of hand.  I don't know if they still require it or not, but at one 
time, South Carolina required that liquor stores be covered with big red 
spots.  They also used to allow sales of liquor only between dawn and 
dusk, so the hours of the liquor stores changed every day.  :-) 


I remember the big red spots from years ago, although I don't think they 
were required to cover the entire store, plus they were required for 
locations that sold only beer and wine for off premise consumption as 
well. I think that requirement was dropped several years back. Also, I 
think South Carolina did away with licensing private liquor stores and 
went to a state control model similar to North Carolina's ... although I 
could be wrong about that, since I hardly ever look for liquor stores in 
South Carolina.


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Re: PESO: Spring Shore Breeze

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Bruce. I agree with your point.
It may be, also, the sweep of the kit tails against a like background line.

Jack

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> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Spring Shore Breeze
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 1:28 PM
> Well, what is interesting about this
> shot is the perspective.  We
> rarely get to see a view of flying kites from a vantage
> point like
> this.  Usually we are seeing a ground
> perspective.  The compression
> of the background also adds to the view.  I rather
> like it.
> 
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> 
> Thursday, April 8, 2010, 1:30:06 PM, you wrote:
> 
> JD> Taken from a coastal bluff near the town of Marina,
> CA. Near Monterey.
> 
> JD> Perfect kite day.
> 
> JD> Jack
> 
> JD> Comments?
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Re: PESO: Ring Billed Gull

[Jack Davis]

Your considerate comments greatly appreciated!

Jack

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> Subject: Re: PESO: Ring Billed Gull
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> You did a great job on this
> one.  Exposure is particularly nice.
> 
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> 
> Thursday, April 8, 2010, 4:42:48 PM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> JD> Guess it's all about things that fly today.
> 
> JD> Comments welcome.
> 
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Re: PESO: Sea Otter Lunch

[Jack Davis]

Valued remarks, Bruce!

Thanks!

Jack

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> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Sea Otter Lunch
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> I like what you did with this
> one.  The smooth water in front of the
> otter really helps show the movement.  Nicely done.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Friday, April 9, 2010, 8:21:14 AM, you wrote:
> 
> JD> While my wife and I were having lunch on the
> Monterey Boardwalk,
> JD> this character came swimming by, also having a
> restful snack.
> 
> JD> Jack
> 
> JD> Comments?
> 
> JD> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=482
> 
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Exhibit details

[Larry Colen]

I'm trying to tie up the final details for the show.

I don't understand how the pricing of the art works as there is both  
an "asked for" and a "minimum" price on the form.  Is there some sort  
of consensus on what people are asking for their prints?


If someone wants me to come shoot photos for them, I can come up with  
a value for my time.  If someone says they like one of my photos,  
chances are that it's a friend and my response is likely to be along  
the lines of, "sure, Costco charges me $3 for a 16x20, why don't you  
buy me lunch when I give it to you".


Also, if there isn't any sort of limited edition, if more than one  
person wants to buy a photo, would Mark be willing to print more  
copies, and what would he charge to do so?


Christine posted a list of suggested hotels for the event.  Was there  
one that most people ended up getting reservations at?


I've been struggling with the CV and the artists statement, if anyone  
wants to read and comment, I posted them on my LJ:


http://lrc.livejournal.com/1094985.html

I'm afraid that it does not, as of yet, mention nekkid wimmin.

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