RE: geso 1st snow in chicago
Whoops! Premature sending syndrome. Last sentence should have read: Numbers 3 (the red is perfectly placed) and 11 (nice near-monochrome rendering) are outstanding. Chris > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Chris Mitchell > Sent: 06 December 2010 07:57 > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: geso 1st snow in chicago > > What is there not to like about the rendering? It shows warmth against > the > white snow. > > Numbers 3 (the red is perfectly placed) and 11 (nice near-monochrome > rendering). > > Chris > > > -Original Message- > > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf > Of > > Christine Aguila > > Sent: 05 December 2010 22:36 > > To: pdml@pdml.net > > Subject: geso 1st snow in chicago > > > > If you don't like the renderings here, feel free to say so. Not a > > problem. > > > > http://www.caguila.com/caguila/1stsnow2010/ > > > > Comments welcome. > > > > Cheers, Christine > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and > > follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Night driving
I just like it. Sorry for being not too original here. On 12/7/2010 7:42 AM, David Parsons wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/5240436950/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESOs - two tall building shots
On 12/6/2010 9:59 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Well, honestly, seriously, Boris, I like em -- both of em. The austerity. And that they look like they might tip over any minute -- which, metaphorically speaking, strikes me to be a fact about everything we humans have made. Though philosophy wasn't my intent, I find ordinary verticals and horizontals represented as such on photographs rather boring. So I always tilt and rotate my camera in all kinds of ways when shooting geometrical patterns... Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESOs - two tall building shots
On 12/6/2010 9:34 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Second shot has a bit of "something." Jack Huh? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESOs - two tall building shots
On 12/6/2010 8:54 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I really like the patterns of the curves and straight lines, the monochrome feeling, and the textures. The flags (?) are a bit discordant and distract from the overall effect in my view, but there was nothing you could have done about that. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola Hmmm, flags?! I take it you mean these windows on the first shot (#59 - Urban perspective)... Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
On 12/7/2010 6:16 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I like the street scene. You do seem to take a lot of food shots. Maybe you should eat more snacks. ;-) I should eat less snacks as I need to loose weight. And in sooth, Steve, I am not taking as many food shots as certain guy living in Australia, coming by the name Derby /wink wink/. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
On 12/6/2010 6:56 PM, Eric Weir wrote: After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. I think that there is more to low light photography than what Ralf does. No disrespect to him, 'cause he is truly excellent in his work. Presently, I am thinking that I am in the process of learning the light and the way the streets are lit in the evening is entirely different than anything light related that is happening when the sun is out. So it is intriguing me. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion
On 12/6/2010 5:04 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: My experience is a lot better just for the simple fact that the K10D backfocused A LOT with my F50 f/1.7 lens, and would not focus AT ALL with the 16-50 when zoomed entirely out to 16mm. K7 focuses accurately and quickly with both. -Charles Understood. I still believe that either Pentax is being looking gracefully at me or whatever, but my K10D has exhibited no problems whatsoever in any known to mankind aspect thereof. Of course it has its limitations, but within them, it does all that it is supposed to do. Not a single focus issue with any of AF lenses that passed through my hands. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On 12/7/2010 5:07 AM, paul stenquist wrote: We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. That's a healthy thing. Paul I concur and I'd even drink to that, Paul. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On 12/7/2010 3:24 AM, paul stenquist wrote: I quote; "I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor." Good thing he doesn't have a life. Paul Seeing (the blobs) shrink can be the solution for that poor person. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 12/6/2010 11:01 PM, SV Hovland wrote: I also found a lot of ordinary dust spots and I am a little bit surprised it isn't automatically removed. I can't remember a single spot on my K-7. Stig Vidar Hovland You better be careful. Someone will look you up on the archives and start a moan and groan whereas they would claim (based on solid experimental and statistical basis, of course) that sensor cleaning of K-5 isn't working /big evil grin/. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Night driving
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Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Yeah, I actively avoid DPR unless a search takes me there. Funny thing is that Adam started PF after problems there. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: > Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when > compared to the DPR forums. > > Paul > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum I quote; "I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor. " Good thing he doesn't have a life. Must have been using a REAL slow shutter... Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
No K7 blob here. MARK! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steven Desjardins" Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor I actually did this because I had a lens with a "blob" that I thought was internal dust. (It was.) No K7 blob here. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Badly OOF? Jack --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:52 PM On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist wrote: >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: >> >>> On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: > >> Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 >> >> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test >> images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. >> > > Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is falling" kind of way. > > Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? > > And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul >>> >>> Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. >>> >>> My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem >>> to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). They are >>> noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I >>> suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should >>> *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such >>> apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be >>> annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in >>> a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer >>> not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. >>> >>> >> >> I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. >> Paul > > That's good news, Paul. > > For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined using the sky or > a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not sure why anyone > would want advice on improving their blob definition, but it's one of > the many useful services I provide to the community. > > Because giving back is important. > I repeated the test with white paper. Still no blobs at f22. Just out of focus paper. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Nice. I couldn't quite remember the wording. -Original Message- From: John Francis Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:40:34 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:51:26PM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote: > What PDMLer used to have the signature: > > When you feel fear or doubt > Run in circles, scream and shout. The most commonly-seen wording is: "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout" Lazarus Long/Robert A. Heinlen - "Time Enough for Love", 1973 but the couplet didn't originate there - it was in common usage in the U.S. Navy (probably where RAH picked it up) 25 years earlier. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:51:26PM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote: > What PDMLer used to have the signature: > > When you feel fear or doubt > Run in circles, scream and shout. The most commonly-seen wording is: "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout" Lazarus Long/Robert A. Heinlen - "Time Enough for Love", 1973 but the couplet didn't originate there - it was in common usage in the U.S. Navy (probably where RAH picked it up) 25 years earlier. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I imagined that the spots would be considerably more prominent than paper > texture.(?) > My feeling is, however, that isolated small detail would fuzz out quickly in > poor focus, but I'm happy to leave it there. :) The sensor is behind the lens. It's focus independent, although light focused at f22 is more likely to reveal details on the sensor than would light focused at f8. Paul > > Jack > > --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > >> From: P N Stenquist >> Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:53 PM >> goodly out of focus:-). When trying >> to detect spots on the sensor, you want only a white surface >> in front of the lens. Focusing on the surface is >> counterproductive in that you pick up more of its texture. >> >> Paul >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >>> Badly OOF? >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist >> wrote: >>> From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 >> Sensor To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:52 PM On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist wrote: >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere >> wrote: >> >>> On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul >> stenquist wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, >> Charles Robinson wrote: > On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, >> Miserere wrote: > >> Any of you guys with a >> K-5 experiencing any of this? >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 >> >> Maybe you K-7 owners could >> take a look too. No need to transfer test >> images to the computer, >> the blobs can be seen on the LCD. >> > > Frankly, if the images turn >> out OK (besides being all green) then there is no >> problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the >> sky is falling" kind of way. > > Seriously... why would a >> person even bother looking for something like this unless it's >> affecting the output? > > And by "affect the output" I >> mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an >> f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of >> small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for >> it. Paul >>> >>> Thanks for the replies so far, and >> please keep 'em coming. >>> >>> My test unit has a string of blobs >> near the center (most people seem >>> to report them "near the center" for >> what it's worth). They are >>> noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I >>> suspect in real photographs (with >> plenty of detail) they should >>> *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and >> onwards. I rarely photograph at such >>> apertures, but I can imagine people >> shooting landscapes would be >>> annoyed to find these blobs in their >> blue skies. Then again, a blob in >>> a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then >> again, again, we'd all prefer >>> not to have to clone out blobs as part >> of our postprocessing. >>> >>> >> >> I just tested my camera in the same manner >> as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer >> screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, >> F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No >> blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean >> operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure >> white. >> Paul > > That's good news, Paul. > > For what it's worth, my blobs are much better >> defined using the sky or > a blank piece of paper than the computer >> screen. Not sure why anyone > would want advice on improving their blob >> definition, but it's one of > the many useful services I provide to the >> community. > > Because giving back is important. > I repeated the test with white paper. Still no >> blobs at f22. Just out of focus paper. Paul > > —M. > > \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > > http://EnticingTheLight.com > A Quest for >> Photographic Enlightenment > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the >> link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.n
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
I like the street scene. You do seem to take a lot of food shots. Maybe you should eat more snacks. ;-) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I expect the army would have at least one shooting opportunity... > > On 12/6/2010 2:41 PM, Bob W wrote: >>> >>> After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll >>> never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* >>> possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would >>> be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might >>> offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. >> >> don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try >> wandering >> around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm >> sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. >> >> B >> >> > > > -- > Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! > > --Marvin the Martian. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
I imagined that the spots would be considerably more prominent than paper texture.(?) My feeling is, however, that isolated small detail would fuzz out quickly in poor focus, but I'm happy to leave it there. :) Jack --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > From: P N Stenquist > Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:53 PM > goodly out of focus:-). When trying > to detect spots on the sensor, you want only a white surface > in front of the lens. Focusing on the surface is > counterproductive in that you pick up more of its texture. > > Paul > On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > Badly OOF? > > > > Jack > > > > --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist > wrote: > > > >> From: P N Stenquist > >> Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 > Sensor > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > >> Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:52 PM > >> > >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: > >> > >>> On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist > >> wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere > wrote: > > > On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul > stenquist > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, > Charles > >> Robinson wrote: > >> > >>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, > Miserere > >> wrote: > >>> > Any of you guys with a > K-5 > >> experiencing any of this? > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 > > Maybe you K-7 owners could > take a > >> look too. No need to transfer test > images to the computer, > the blobs > >> can be seen on the LCD. > > >>> > >>> Frankly, if the images turn > out OK > >> (besides being all green) then there is no > problem. > >> Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the > sky is > >> falling" kind of way. > >>> > >>> Seriously... why would a > person even > >> bother looking for something like this unless it's > affecting > >> the output? > >>> > >>> And by "affect the output" I > mean: can > >> this really be SEEN on something other than an > f/22 shot of > >> a blank grey surface? > >> > >> It could be seen on any number of > small > >> aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for > it. > >> Paul > > > > Thanks for the replies so far, and > please keep > >> 'em coming. > > > > My test unit has a string of blobs > near the > >> center (most people seem > > to report them "near the center" for > what it's > >> worth). They are > > noticeable at f/8 and smaller when > >> photographing a blank surface; I > > suspect in real photographs (with > plenty of > >> detail) they should > > *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and > onwards. I > >> rarely photograph at such > > apertures, but I can imagine people > shooting > >> landscapes would be > > annoyed to find these blobs in their > blue > >> skies. Then again, a blob in > > a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then > again, > >> again, we'd all prefer > > not to have to clone out blobs as part > of our > >> postprocessing. > > > > > > I just tested my camera in the same manner > as the > >> guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer > screen with > >> white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, > F stops > >> were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No > blobs. Saw > >> a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean > operation and > >> retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure > white. > Paul > >>> > >>> That's good news, Paul. > >>> > >>> For what it's worth, my blobs are much better > defined > >> using the sky or > >>> a blank piece of paper than the computer > screen. Not > >> sure why anyone > >>> would want advice on improving their blob > definition, > >> but it's one of > >>> the many useful services I provide to the > community. > >>> > >>> Because giving back is important. > >>> > >> I repeated the test with white paper. Still no > blobs at > >> f22. Just out of focus paper. > >> Paul > >>> > >>> —M. > >>> > >>> \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > >>> > >>> http://EnticingTheLight.com > >>> A Quest for > Photographic Enlightenment > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link > >> directly above and follow the directions. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link > >> directly above and follow the directions. > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.ne
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
No blots either way. -Original Message- From: paul stenquist Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:00:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor Why thank you, Steve. So if Cotty had a k-5, would his sensor be pure black? On Dec 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > That's because you are pure of heart, Paul. > > > > "I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on > dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my > DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to > infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean > operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. >> Paul" > > > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
No question. The Pesos always remind me that I'm the master/weak point in the photographic process. -Original Message- From: paul stenquist Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:07:53 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum In truth, we're a bit more mature than the others. We've been around for a dozen years and wore out the hand-wringing thing a while back. I think we've learned that there will inevitably be problems with anything as complex as a DSLR, and sometimes we have to be a bit patient while those problems are sorted out. More importantly, we have other things to talk about: beer, coffee, guns, personal issues, etc. Oh, and pictures. We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. That's a healthy thing. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: > We are happy in our martyrdom? > > On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect >> the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. >> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: >>> Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when >>> compared to the DPR forums. >>> >>> Paul >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Steve Desjardins >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Of course, if one were to look for a bright side in all of this, they might put two-and-two together and realize that what this all really boils down to is some pretty good deals on refurbs in the not-too-distant future. And the circle of life goes on. -- Walt On 12/6/2010 8:21 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 20:03, paul stenquist wrote: Here's a list of tested cameras from PF. Is this akin to everyone on an airplane getting sick at the same time? BTW, my unaffected camera is 3823799. The condition doesn't seem to be serial number specific. Paul 382 - yes 3820670 - no 3820688 - yes 3820888 - yes 38226xx - yes 3822724 - yes 3822871 - yes 3823812 - no 3823850 - no 3823862 - no 3823875 - yes 3823936 - no 3823993 - yes 3825xxx - yes 3827069 - yes 3828xxx - no 3830xxx - yes 3836407 - no 3839502 - yes 3842*** - yes 3842409 - yes 3842568 - yes 3849.. - yes 3849889 - no 3850... - yes ( a dot is a yes Blende) 3850011 - yes 3850025 - yes 38506xx - yes 3851607 - yes 3858324 - yes 3877*** - no 3889... - no 3889359 - yes 3890099 - yes 3894*** - no 3894706 - no 3900xxx. - no (updated. ) Read more at: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/125009-stains-your-k5d-sensor-poll-5.html#ixzz17NpJyTTi Ouch! http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/125009-stains-your-k5d-sensor-poll-5.html#post1293433 That's nasty... My unit is a 3889xxx —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
On 12/6/2010 2:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Jeffery Smith wrote: Pentax, because you can buy a Canon or Nikon at Walmart. My favorite so far:) (Of course, Pentax would love to have their cameras available at Mal-Wart, but that's another story...) I had a conversation with a Wal-Mart manager, not too long ago. I asked why Wal-Mart didn't carry Pentax? His response was that Pentax wouldn't deal, they just wouldn't put up with Wal-Mart's requirements. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Megapixel myth
On 12/6/2010 6:05 PM, Nick David Wright wrote: I've always found the race for more megapixels kind of amusing. The amusement reached a new level last week when I uploaded a photo to WalMart's site to be printed. When you are selecting files to be uploaded, there's a little blurb letting you know you are uploading using the "standard" method, or some such baloney, with a link. I clicked the link out of curiosity and found myself at a page telling me that using the standard method WalMart would resize my photos before uploading so they upload faster. They assured me the resized photos would be just fine to print at regular sizes. There was an option which allowed me to upload the original un-resized photo. But they warned the upload could take a very long time. So it's funny to me this store selling use more and more megapixels every year is also (kinda sneakily) thowing away some of those megapixels when you send your photos to them for printing. Kodak at one time considered 1.3mp 1.6mp 2.0-mp etc. as professional. 6mp scanned film lasted the longest, that's what their picture disk, (I think maybe Photo Disk can't remember and can't be bothered to look it up), professional system supported. That lasted until the DCS 14c was released which of course blew the 6mp limit away... -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
In truth, we're a bit more mature than the others. We've been around for a dozen years and wore out the hand-wringing thing a while back. I think we've learned that there will inevitably be problems with anything as complex as a DSLR, and sometimes we have to be a bit patient while those problems are sorted out. More importantly, we have other things to talk about: beer, coffee, guns, personal issues, etc. Oh, and pictures. We actually talk about pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures. That's a healthy thing. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: > We are happy in our martyrdom? > > On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect >> the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. >> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: >>> Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when >>> compared to the DPR forums. >>> >>> Paul >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Steve Desjardins >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Light modification device on my wishlist
On 12/6/2010 3:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Miserere wrote: Dude, quit reading Dilbert and start reading McNally--you need more lights! Nerds don't read Dilbert, nerds read xkcd. Seriously, you do :-) I won't argue with that, I also need a K-5 and various lenses. Unfortunately what I really need is income. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Amen brother. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
I did. I was being ironic, at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. + On 12/6/2010 7:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: What PDMLer used to have the signature: When you feel fear or doubt Run in circles, scream and shout. "You say that as if there's a course of action that *wouldn't* cause mass hysteria on Pentax Forums..." -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
It's just a rumor that Cotty's the prince of darkness he's really the prince of insufficient light. As an aside it's really difficult typing when you have a dog trying to lick your hands while trying to type, (don't even ask). On 12/6/2010 9:00 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Why thank you, Steve. So if Cotty had a k-5, would his sensor be pure black? On Dec 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: That's because you are pure of heart, Paul. "I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. Paul" -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Megapixel myth
On Dec 6, 2010, at 17:05, Nick David Wright wrote: > There was an option which allowed me to upload the original un-resized > photo. But they warned the upload could take a very long time. > > So it's funny to me this store selling use more and more megapixels > every year is also (kinda sneakily) thowing away some of those > megapixels when you send your photos to them for printing. > CostCo does the same thing, but they make it VERY clear that the faster uploads are only good for smaller prints. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 12/6/2010 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is falling" kind of way. Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). They are noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. Paul That's good news, Paul. For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined using the sky or a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not sure why anyone would want advice on improving their blob definition, but it's one of the many useful services I provide to the community. Because giving back is important. It's good to know you're a giver. —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 12/6/2010 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is falling" kind of way. Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). They are noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment If fhis isn't a dust spot, which it looks like, then it's a waranity repair issue. Pentax should repair or replace. I don't see as this is a killer issue, unless you're completely paranoid. In fact based on some of the other customer as QA department issues I've heard of this is relatively minor. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
On 2010-12-06 21:47, Paul Ewins wrote: We are happy in our martyrdom? On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. If you think everything's going well, you've obviously overlooked something. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
We are happy in our martyrdom? On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect > the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: >> Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when >> compared to the DPR forums. >> >> Paul >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect the worst. Our motto: If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: > Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when > compared to the DPR forums. > > Paul > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when compared to the DPR forums. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Of course, the "yes" people are more likely to respond. What's more, from the descriptions, it sounds like some of these folks are just seeing a bit of sensor dust. Probably never looked for it before. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 6 December 2010 20:03, paul stenquist wrote: >> Here's a list of tested cameras from PF. Is this akin to everyone on an >> airplane getting sick at the same time? BTW, my unaffected camera is >> 3823799. The condition doesn't seem to be serial number specific. >> Paul >> >> 382 - yes >> 3820670 - no >> 3820688 - yes >> 3820888 - yes >> 38226xx - yes >> 3822724 - yes >> 3822871 - yes >> 3823812 - no >> 3823850 - no >> 3823862 - no >> 3823875 - yes >> 3823936 - no >> 3823993 - yes >> 3825xxx - yes >> 3827069 - yes >> 3828xxx - no >> 3830xxx - yes >> 3836407 - no >> 3839502 - yes >> 3842*** - yes >> 3842409 - yes >> 3842568 - yes >> 3849.. - yes >> 3849889 - no >> 3850... - yes ( a dot is a yes Blende) >> 3850011 - yes >> 3850025 - yes >> 38506xx - yes >> 3851607 - yes >> 3858324 - yes >> 3877*** - no >> 3889... - no >> 3889359 - yes >> 3890099 - yes >> 3894*** - no >> 3894706 - no >> 3900xxx. - no >> (updated. ) >> >> Read more at: >> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/125009-stains-your-k5d-sensor-poll-5.html#ixzz17NpJyTTi > > > Ouch! > > http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/125009-stains-your-k5d-sensor-poll-5.html#post1293433 > > That's nasty... > > My unit is a 3889xxx > > > —M. > >\/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > >http://EnticingTheLight.com >A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 12/6/2010 6:26 PM, Jim King wrote: Miserere wrote on Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:20:27 -0800 Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Would be interested in hearing from all of you. No problem with my K-5. It was a recent purchase (Amazon on Black Friday) so it's not from the early batches which seem to show this "issue". The hysteria in the DPR Pentax Forum would be entertaining if it were not so sad for Pentax to have yet another Internet-fed "issue" to contend with. For heaven's sake, consumer products do sometimes have issues, and the best response is to exchange or repair under warranty, not to scream about it to high heaven in an Internet forum. Of course, the usual trolls have come out from under their bridges to fan the flames... Regards, Jim Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com I wouldn't even worry, they look like freekin' dust spots. I get them all the time on the K20D and *ist Ds. The clean off with either the sensor shake method or a blast of air. The worst thing is these are a manufacturing defect on the interior surface of the AA filter. If it's within the warranty period there should be no problem having Pentax repair the problem. Even if it were out of warranty I would expect Pentax to fix it for free since I doubt that they would think you actually disassembled the K-5 to put some dust on the sensor. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
That's quite a bit of looking to find an obvious visible imperfection. The best part is that if you did find something then you'll see it forever. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > Wow. Three days, two lenses and 25 shots to figure out what ought to be > discernible in 3 shots through one lens over the course of, what, fifteen > minutes? > > I want that guy reading my MRI's. > > -- Walt > > On 12/6/2010 7:24 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >> >> I quote; >> >> "I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 >> sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses >> (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor." >> >> Good thing he doesn't have a life. >> >> Paul > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
paul stenquist wrote: I quote; "I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor. " Good thing he doesn't have a life. Paul LOL! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011
Sun Dec 5 15:17:39 CST 2010 eckinator wrote: > 2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin : > > >> >> p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos? > >> >> > >> > I don't remember "catastrophy", "catapults" or "catalogs" suggested > >> > as themes for the next year.. > >> > >> that is because this year's "cat" theme will be concatenated RAW > >> files > >> - PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate > >> categories for PEF and DNG as well as lower and upper case ]=) > > > > man cat(1) > > > > It will be called steganocatography. > > > > At that point the PUssycatGallery will be watched by the > > Cat Investigation Agency and Feline Bureau of Investigation. > > that will give a whole new meaning to the MP spec of a sensor... Too nerdy... Even I am lost now... Are you talking about Meow Police censorship? ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
Wow. Three days, two lenses and 25 shots to figure out what ought to be discernible in 3 shots through one lens over the course of, what, fifteen minutes? I want that guy reading my MRI's. -- Walt On 12/6/2010 7:24 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I quote; "I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor." Good thing he doesn't have a life. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 6 December 2010 20:03, paul stenquist wrote: > Here's a list of tested cameras from PF. Is this akin to everyone on an > airplane getting sick at the same time? BTW, my unaffected camera is 3823799. > The condition doesn't seem to be serial number specific. > Paul > > 382 - yes > 3820670 - no > 3820688 - yes > 3820888 - yes > 38226xx - yes > 3822724 - yes > 3822871 - yes > 3823812 - no > 3823850 - no > 3823862 - no > 3823875 - yes > 3823936 - no > 3823993 - yes > 3825xxx - yes > 3827069 - yes > 3828xxx - no > 3830xxx - yes > 3836407 - no > 3839502 - yes > 3842*** - yes > 3842409 - yes > 3842568 - yes > 3849.. - yes > 3849889 - no > 3850... - yes ( a dot is a yes Blende) > 3850011 - yes > 3850025 - yes > 38506xx - yes > 3851607 - yes > 3858324 - yes > 3877*** - no > 3889... - no > 3889359 - yes > 3890099 - yes > 3894*** - no > 3894706 - no > 3900xxx. - no > (updated. ) > > Read more at: > http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/125009-stains-your-k5d-sensor-poll-5.html#ixzz17NpJyTTi Ouch! http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/125009-stains-your-k5d-sensor-poll-5.html#post1293433 That's nasty... My unit is a 3889xxx —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
paul stenquist wrote on Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:42:47 -0800 > My K-5 was quite early. i ordered it about an hour after the camera first > went > on sale at B&H. No blobs. Wheatfield's was even earlier. Has he been active > on > PF? Interesting that you have an early production version without the problem.; some of the speculation was that early batches had a high incidence of the problem, based on comments from China. Sorry, I don't spend much time on PF any more (noise content too high there) so I don't know if our friend Wheatfield has been posting there on this subject. If so, I would bet he is skewering some of the more wild-eyed agitators. There was mention in a DPR post of a "poll" on PF in which 77% of the responders claimed that they had the problem - sounds fishy to me... Regards, Jim Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
I expect the army would have at least one shooting opportunity... On 12/6/2010 2:41 PM, Bob W wrote: After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. B -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:01 PM, David Parsons wrote: > Yet another think for them to wank over. That could certainly lead to blobs on the sensor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Yet another think for them to wank over. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 6 December 2010 16:33, Dario Bonazza wrote: >> Miserere wrote: >> >> No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on >> the LCD. >> >> Just checked: my K-5 is unblobbed. >> >> Dario > > That's great! Let's see if we can keep this streak going. Is "streak" > the wrong word in this case...? > > I would start a thread on PF requesting people to test their K-5 and > post the result together with the serial number to see if we could > detect a batch trend but I suspect it would lead to mass hysteria. > > > —M. > > \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > > http://EnticingTheLight.com > A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Why thank you, Steve. So if Cotty had a k-5, would his sensor be pure black? On Dec 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > That's because you are pure of heart, Paul. > > > > "I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on > dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my > DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to > infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean > operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. >> Paul" > > > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum
I quote; "I have spent last 3 days to see whether any stains or dust on my K-5 sensor. After taking more than 25 shots (mostly at F22) with two lenses (43mm and 31mm), I found NO stains on my K-5 sensor. " Good thing he doesn't have a life. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
That's because you are pure of heart, Paul. "I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. > Paul" -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Here's a list of tested cameras from PF. Is this akin to everyone on an airplane getting sick at the same time? BTW, my unaffected camera is 3823799. The condition doesn't seem to be serial number specific. Paul 382 - yes 3820670 - no 3820688 - yes 3820888 - yes 38226xx - yes 3822724 - yes 3822871 - yes 3823812 - no 3823850 - no 3823862 - no 3823875 - yes 3823936 - no 3823993 - yes 3825xxx - yes 3827069 - yes 3828xxx - no 3830xxx - yes 3836407 - no 3839502 - yes 3842*** - yes 3842409 - yes 3842568 - yes 3849.. - yes 3849889 - no 3850... - yes ( a dot is a yes Blende) 3850011 - yes 3850025 - yes 38506xx - yes 3851607 - yes 3858324 - yes 3877*** - no 3889... - no 3889359 - yes 3890099 - yes 3894*** - no 3894706 - no 3900xxx. - no (updated. ) Read more at: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/125009-stains-your-k5d-sensor-poll-5.html#ixzz17NpJyTTi On Dec 6, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > I does what I can. :-) > > On 12/6/2010 6:38 PM, Miserere wrote: >> On 6 December 2010 19:09, Walter Gilbert wrote: >>> I'll happily trade my beloved K-x for one of those blobby old K-5's. >>> Because that's just the sort of guy I am. >>> >>> -- Walt >> Yeah, you have a big heart, Walt. >> >> >>—M. >> >> \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com >> >> http://EnticingTheLight.com >> A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 arrived!
Hey, your images are what drove me over the edge to buy the K-5. Pentax needs to put you on their payroll. As I type this, the K-5 and 31 are "in copula". Sounds messy: careful, the body may be sealed, but that 31 isn't :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
I does what I can. :-) On 12/6/2010 6:38 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 19:09, Walter Gilbert wrote: I'll happily trade my beloved K-x for one of those blobby old K-5's. Because that's just the sort of guy I am. -- Walt Yeah, you have a big heart, Walt. —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 arrived!
Hey, your images are what drove me over the edge to buy the K-5. Pentax needs to put you on their payroll. As I type this, the K-5 and 31 are "in copula". Jeffery On Dec 6, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > The 31 on a K5? You have to use this or we'll have to send someone > over there to slap you ;-) > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: >>> Now, which lens do I marry to it? I'm leaning to using the 31 for a while. >> >> Right now my DA 55/1.4 is pretty much glued to it. If you choose not to use >> the 31, I'll gladly relieve you of it so you can better concentrate on your >> other lenses, :) >> >> - Peter >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
What PDMLer used to have the signature: When you feel fear or doubt Run in circles, scream and shout. "You say that as if there's a course of action that *wouldn't* cause mass hysteria on Pentax Forums..." -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 arrived!
The 31 on a K5? You have to use this or we'll have to send someone over there to slap you ;-) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: >> Now, which lens do I marry to it? I'm leaning to using the 31 for a while. > > Right now my DA 55/1.4 is pretty much glued to it. If you choose not to use > the 31, I'll gladly relieve you of it so you can better concentrate on your > other lenses, :) > > - Peter > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Jim King wrote: > Miserere wrote on Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:20:27 -0800 > >> Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 >> >> >> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test >> images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. >> >> Would be interested in hearing from all of you. > > No problem with my K-5. It was a recent purchase (Amazon on Black Friday) so > it's not from the early batches which seem to show this "issue". > > The hysteria in the DPR Pentax Forum would be entertaining if it were not so > sad for Pentax to have yet another Internet-fed "issue" to contend with. For > heaven's sake, consumer products do sometimes have issues, and the best > response is to exchange or repair under warranty, not to scream about it to > high heaven in an Internet forum. Of course, the usual trolls have come out > from under their bridges to fan the flames... My K-5 was quite early. i ordered it about an hour after the camera first went on sale at B&H. No blobs. Wheatfield's was even earlier. Has he been active on PF? Paul > > Regards, Jim > > Jim King > jamesk8...@mac.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 6 December 2010 19:09, Walter Gilbert wrote: > I'll happily trade my beloved K-x for one of those blobby old K-5's. > Because that's just the sort of guy I am. > > -- Walt Yeah, you have a big heart, Walt. —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
You use your's, I'll use mine: Pentax Kent On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Larry Colen (Droid Mail) wrote: > Last night when someone saw my camera she comented: > Pentax, the poor man's Nikon. > What else could we do with this: > Cannon, for the skilful photographer. > Or how about Pentax 645D, Hasselblad on a budget. > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
I'll happily trade my beloved K-x for one of those blobby old K-5's. Because that's just the sort of guy I am. -- Walt On 12/6/2010 5:46 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Miserere wrote: I would start a thread on PF requesting people to test their K-5 and post the result together with the serial number to see if we could detect a batch trend but I suspect it would lead to mass hysteria. You say that as if there's a course of action that *wouldn't* cause mass hysteria on Pentax Forums... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Best Space Pictures of 2010
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/11/photogalleries/101130-best-space-pictures-2010/#/space92-hubble-anniversary_19582_600x450.jpg I think i see some dust on the sensor. And blobs. NASA better launch a giant piece of white paper up there quick-smart and check it out, or the astrophotography forums are going to be in meltdown! :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 arrived!
Now, which lens do I marry to it? I'm leaning to using the 31 for a while. Right now my DA 55/1.4 is pretty much glued to it. If you choose not to use the 31, I'll gladly relieve you of it so you can better concentrate on your other lenses, :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Miserere wrote: >I would start a thread on PF requesting people to test their K-5 and >post the result together with the serial number to see if we could >detect a batch trend but I suspect it would lead to mass hysteria. You say that as if there's a course of action that *wouldn't* cause mass hysteria on Pentax Forums... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-5 arrived!
Haven't had time to fire any frames other than one at the wall in my office. At 3200 ISO, it was noise-free. Now, which lens do I marry to it? I'm leaning to using the 31 for a while. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Stan Halpin wrote: > >> Bruce - by far the best so far! > > Just replace Bruce with Pentax (not sure his wife will appreciate, though) > and you have another nice one! > > Dario Your name's not Bruce, thats going to cause some confusion. Dave > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Miserere wrote on Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:20:27 -0800 > Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 > > > Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test > images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. > > Would be interested in hearing from all of you. No problem with my K-5. It was a recent purchase (Amazon on Black Friday) so it's not from the early batches which seem to show this "issue". The hysteria in the DPR Pentax Forum would be entertaining if it were not so sad for Pentax to have yet another Internet-fed "issue" to contend with. For heaven's sake, consumer products do sometimes have issues, and the best response is to exchange or repair under warranty, not to scream about it to high heaven in an Internet forum. Of course, the usual trolls have come out from under their bridges to fan the flames... Regards, Jim Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Megapixel myth
LOL! Dang! Much more fiendish than I had imagined. ;-) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Bob W wrote: > >> So it's funny to me this store selling use more and more >> megapixels every year is also (kinda sneakily) thowing away >> some of those megapixels when you send your photos to them >> for printing. > > they're not throwing them away, they're keeping them and selling them with > other cameras. It's a pixel Ponzi scheme. Someday everyone will want to use > all their pixels at the same time and the whole thing will collapse like a > pack of cards. Governments worldwide will have to bail out the pixel banks, > and those of us who've never been in pixel debt will have to pay for it, > while the pixel-rich get to buy Greece for 2 bits and used inkjet. > > B > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Megapixel myth
> So it's funny to me this store selling use more and more > megapixels every year is also (kinda sneakily) thowing away > some of those megapixels when you send your photos to them > for printing. they're not throwing them away, they're keeping them and selling them with other cameras. It's a pixel Ponzi scheme. Someday everyone will want to use all their pixels at the same time and the whole thing will collapse like a pack of cards. Governments worldwide will have to bail out the pixel banks, and those of us who've never been in pixel debt will have to pay for it, while the pixel-rich get to buy Greece for 2 bits and used inkjet. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion
On 6 December 2010 17:21, Stan Halpin wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Miserere wrote: > >> On 6 December 2010 10:06, P. J. Alling wrote: >>> I read your description, otherwise I have no opinion, I'm still using a >>> K20D. >>> >>> The difference in motor sound could be accounted for from the difference in >>> body composition. >> >> I was wondering about that, but they don't sound similar. Anyone else >> think the different bodies can change the sound so much? >> >> >> —M. >> > Similar but different sound issue: I have two K20D bodies which replaced two > K10D bodies. Which in turn replaced two *ist-D bodies. Which replaced two > MZ-S bodies. Since at least the MZ-S period, my practice has been to have one > body with added vertical grip, one without. Bigger heavier lenses go on the > body with the grip attached. With the K20D I noticed that the shutter sound > on the two bodies was different, one much quieter than the other. While at > GFM in 2009 I asked John Carlsson (sp?) about the difference, wondering if > one was somehow defective. We went through a series of comparisons of the two > bodies, with and without grips, with different lenses mounted, etc. > Conclusion was that they both sounded the same as long as they both had a > grip attached (or not) and as long as they had the same lens attached. But > the variation in dampening effect produced by the different attachments was > quite dramatic. I presume that I had not noticed the difference on earlier > body pairs simply because the shutter was basically louder to start with, and > therefore there was a smaller percentage change due to dampening factors. > > I would not be at all surprised to hear that the same AF motor in two > different bodies would sound quite different. > > stan Thanks Stan, that's interesting. I'll disassemble both AF motors this evening and test them outside their respective bodies, that way I'll know for sure. —M. PS: It's "Carlson". \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Megapixel myth
I've always found the race for more megapixels kind of amusing. The amusement reached a new level last week when I uploaded a photo to WalMart's site to be printed. When you are selecting files to be uploaded, there's a little blurb letting you know you are uploading using the "standard" method, or some such baloney, with a link. I clicked the link out of curiosity and found myself at a page telling me that using the standard method WalMart would resize my photos before uploading so they upload faster. They assured me the resized photos would be just fine to print at regular sizes. There was an option which allowed me to upload the original un-resized photo. But they warned the upload could take a very long time. So it's funny to me this store selling use more and more megapixels every year is also (kinda sneakily) thowing away some of those megapixels when you send your photos to them for printing. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
goodly out of focus:-). When trying to detect spots on the sensor, you want only a white surface in front of the lens. Focusing on the surface is counterproductive in that you pick up more of its texture. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Badly OOF? > > Jack > > --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > >> From: P N Stenquist >> Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:52 PM >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: >> >>> On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist >> wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist >> >> wrote: >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles >> Robinson wrote: >> >>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere >> wrote: >>> Any of you guys with a K-5 >> experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a >> look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs >> can be seen on the LCD. >>> >>> Frankly, if the images turn out OK >> (besides being all green) then there is no problem. >> Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is >> falling" kind of way. >>> >>> Seriously... why would a person even >> bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting >> the output? >>> >>> And by "affect the output" I mean: can >> this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of >> a blank grey surface? >> >> It could be seen on any number of small >> aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. >> Paul > > Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep >> 'em coming. > > My test unit has a string of blobs near the >> center (most people seem > to report them "near the center" for what it's >> worth). They are > noticeable at f/8 and smaller when >> photographing a blank surface; I > suspect in real photographs (with plenty of >> detail) they should > *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I >> rarely photograph at such > apertures, but I can imagine people shooting >> landscapes would be > annoyed to find these blobs in their blue >> skies. Then again, a blob in > a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, >> again, we'd all prefer > not to have to clone out blobs as part of our >> postprocessing. > > I just tested my camera in the same manner as the >> guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with >> white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops >> were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw >> a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and >> retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. Paul >>> >>> That's good news, Paul. >>> >>> For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined >> using the sky or >>> a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not >> sure why anyone >>> would want advice on improving their blob definition, >> but it's one of >>> the many useful services I provide to the community. >>> >>> Because giving back is important. >>> >> I repeated the test with white paper. Still no blobs at >> f22. Just out of focus paper. >> Paul >>> >>>—M. >>> >>> \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com >>> >>> http://EnticingTheLight.com >>> A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
Stan Halpin wrote: Bruce - by far the best so far! Just replace Bruce with Pentax (not sure his wife will appreciate, though) and you have another nice one! Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
Pentax, with unequaled weather-resistence: Blame your mistakes on the rain. -T On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:16 PM, eckinator wrote: > Pentax: crisper blobs at higher ISO. > > 2010/12/6 Stan Halpin : >> Bruce - by far the best so far! >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>> >>> Pentax: when you're ready for prime time. >>> >> >> But I'll add one anyway - Pentax: when you are ready to take control of your >> photography. >> >> stan >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion
On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Miserere wrote: > On 6 December 2010 10:06, P. J. Alling wrote: >> I read your description, otherwise I have no opinion, I'm still using a >> K20D. >> >> The difference in motor sound could be accounted for from the difference in >> body composition. > > I was wondering about that, but they don't sound similar. Anyone else > think the different bodies can change the sound so much? > > > —M. > Similar but different sound issue: I have two K20D bodies which replaced two K10D bodies. Which in turn replaced two *ist-D bodies. Which replaced two MZ-S bodies. Since at least the MZ-S period, my practice has been to have one body with added vertical grip, one without. Bigger heavier lenses go on the body with the grip attached. With the K20D I noticed that the shutter sound on the two bodies was different, one much quieter than the other. While at GFM in 2009 I asked John Carlsson (sp?) about the difference, wondering if one was somehow defective. We went through a series of comparisons of the two bodies, with and without grips, with different lenses mounted, etc. Conclusion was that they both sounded the same as long as they both had a grip attached (or not) and as long as they had the same lens attached. But the variation in dampening effect produced by the different attachments was quite dramatic. I presume that I had not noticed the difference on earlier body pairs simply because the shutter was basically louder to start with, and therefore there was a smaller percentage change due to dampening factors. I would not be at all surprised to hear that the same AF motor in two different bodies would sound quite different. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
I actually did this because I had a lens with a "blob" that I thought was internal dust. (It was.) No K7 blob here. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Badly OOF? > > Jack > > --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > >> From: P N Stenquist >> Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:52 PM >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: >> >> > On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist >> >> wrote: >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles >> Robinson wrote: >> >> > On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere >> wrote: >> > >> >> Any of you guys with a K-5 >> experiencing any of this? >> >> >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 >> >> >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 >> >> >> >> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a >> look too. No need to transfer test >> >> images to the computer, the blobs >> can be seen on the LCD. >> >> >> > >> > Frankly, if the images turn out OK >> (besides being all green) then there is no problem. >> Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is >> falling" kind of way. >> > >> > Seriously... why would a person even >> bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting >> the output? >> > >> > And by "affect the output" I mean: can >> this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of >> a blank grey surface? >> >> It could be seen on any number of small >> aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. >> Paul >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep >> 'em coming. >> >>> >> >>> My test unit has a string of blobs near the >> center (most people seem >> >>> to report them "near the center" for what it's >> worth). They are >> >>> noticeable at f/8 and smaller when >> photographing a blank surface; I >> >>> suspect in real photographs (with plenty of >> detail) they should >> >>> *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I >> rarely photograph at such >> >>> apertures, but I can imagine people shooting >> landscapes would be >> >>> annoyed to find these blobs in their blue >> skies. Then again, a blob in >> >>> a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, >> again, we'd all prefer >> >>> not to have to clone out blobs as part of our >> postprocessing. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I just tested my camera in the same manner as the >> guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with >> white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops >> were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw >> a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and >> retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. >> >> Paul >> > >> > That's good news, Paul. >> > >> > For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined >> using the sky or >> > a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not >> sure why anyone >> > would want advice on improving their blob definition, >> but it's one of >> > the many useful services I provide to the community. >> > >> > Because giving back is important. >> > >> I repeated the test with white paper. Still no blobs at >> f22. Just out of focus paper. >> Paul >> > >> > —M. >> > >> > \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com >> > >> > http://EnticingTheLight.com >> > A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
Pentax: crisper blobs at higher ISO. 2010/12/6 Stan Halpin : > Bruce - by far the best so far! > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Pentax: when you're ready for prime time. >> > > But I'll add one anyway - Pentax: when you are ready to take control of your > photography. > > stan > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Messages not getting through
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Mail must have mistakenly thought you were composing a message for one of the > Leica lists. Mail should know better by now. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Badly OOF? Jack --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > From: P N Stenquist > Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:52 PM > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: > > > On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist > wrote: > >> > >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: > >> > >>> On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist > > wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles > Robinson wrote: > > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere > wrote: > > > >> Any of you guys with a K-5 > experiencing any of this? > >> > >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 > >> > >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 > >> > >> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a > look too. No need to transfer test > >> images to the computer, the blobs > can be seen on the LCD. > >> > > > > Frankly, if the images turn out OK > (besides being all green) then there is no problem. > Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is > falling" kind of way. > > > > Seriously... why would a person even > bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting > the output? > > > > And by "affect the output" I mean: can > this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of > a blank grey surface? > > It could be seen on any number of small > aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. > Paul > >>> > >>> Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep > 'em coming. > >>> > >>> My test unit has a string of blobs near the > center (most people seem > >>> to report them "near the center" for what it's > worth). They are > >>> noticeable at f/8 and smaller when > photographing a blank surface; I > >>> suspect in real photographs (with plenty of > detail) they should > >>> *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I > rarely photograph at such > >>> apertures, but I can imagine people shooting > landscapes would be > >>> annoyed to find these blobs in their blue > skies. Then again, a blob in > >>> a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, > again, we'd all prefer > >>> not to have to clone out blobs as part of our > postprocessing. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> I just tested my camera in the same manner as the > guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with > white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops > were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw > a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and > retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. > >> Paul > > > > That's good news, Paul. > > > > For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined > using the sky or > > a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not > sure why anyone > > would want advice on improving their blob definition, > but it's one of > > the many useful services I provide to the community. > > > > Because giving back is important. > > > I repeated the test with white paper. Still no blobs at > f22. Just out of focus paper. > Paul > > > > —M. > > > > \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > > > > http://EnticingTheLight.com > > A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
Bruce - by far the best so far! On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Pentax: when you're ready for prime time. > But I'll add one anyway - Pentax: when you are ready to take control of your photography. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >> On the way back I pulled off Cobb Drive and drove back into the site. >> Turned out it was an incinerator that was no longer being used. >> However, they were hauling in truck loads of vegetation refuse -- >> leaves, tree branches, and such -- and loading it into a grinder. >> Looked like they were planning to compost the stuff or use it for >> mulch. > > Dropped into street view at the nearest point I could get to the site. Turns > out to be the site entrance & there's a sign that says "Georgia Power". > > Looking at it from the Satellite view, you can see the transformer yards, the > cooling water intake structure on the Chattahoochee and a mountain of coal on > the north side of the plant. Yeah, I remember seeing that, too. Man, there's a lot of stuff there. Up river on the same side and across the river. Looks like it's all one huge generation complex. Tons of cooling towers. The incinerator is just downstream across the river right at Cobb Drive, east side. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist wrote: >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: >> >>> On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: > >> Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 >> >> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test >> images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. >> > > Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there > is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is > falling" kind of way. > > Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like > this unless it's affecting the output? > > And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something > other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul >>> >>> Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. >>> >>> My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem >>> to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). They are >>> noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I >>> suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should >>> *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such >>> apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be >>> annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in >>> a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer >>> not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. >>> >>> >> >> I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. >> I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at >> about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. >> Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and >> the dust was gone. I get pure white. >> Paul > > That's good news, Paul. > > For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined using the sky or > a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not sure why anyone > would want advice on improving their blob definition, but it's one of > the many useful services I provide to the community. > > Because giving back is important. > I repeated the test with white paper. Still no blobs at f22. Just out of focus paper. Paul > > —M. > >\/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > >http://EnticingTheLight.com >A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Paul, in cleaning the sensor, did you use sensor vibration or a Pentax gum > stick? > Just the vibration. I only resort to the gum stick if the vibration fails in repeated attempts. These were minor dust specs and not near the center. They disappeared with one vibrate. Paul > Jack > > --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > >> From: P N Stenquist >> Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:31 PM >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: >> >>> On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist >> wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson >> wrote: > On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: > >> Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing >> any of this? >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 >> >> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look >> too. No need to transfer test >> images to the computer, the blobs can be >> seen on the LCD. >> > > Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides >> being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting >> as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is falling" kind >> of way. > > Seriously... why would a person even bother >> looking for something like this unless it's affecting the >> output? > > And by "affect the output" I mean: can this >> really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a >> blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture >> shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul >>> >>> Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em >> coming. >>> >>> My test unit has a string of blobs near the center >> (most people seem >>> to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). >> They are >>> noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a >> blank surface; I >>> suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) >> they should >>> *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely >> photograph at such >>> apertures, but I can imagine people shooting >> landscapes would be >>> annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then >> again, a blob in >>> a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, >> we'd all prefer >>> not to have to clone out blobs as part of our >> postprocessing. >>> >>> >> >> I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy >> reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white >> and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were >> f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few >> specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, >> and the dust was gone. I get pure white. >> Paul >> >> >>>—M. >>> >>> \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com >>> >>> http://EnticingTheLight.com >>> A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 6 December 2010 16:33, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Miserere wrote: > > No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on > the LCD. > > Just checked: my K-5 is unblobbed. > > Dario That's great! Let's see if we can keep this streak going. Is "streak" the wrong word in this case...? I would start a thread on PF requesting people to test their K-5 and post the result together with the serial number to see if we could detect a batch trend but I suspect it would lead to mass hysteria. —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Paul, in cleaning the sensor, did you use sensor vibration or a Pentax gum stick? Jack --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > From: P N Stenquist > Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:31 PM > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: > > > On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist > wrote: > >> > >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson > wrote: > >> > >>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: > >>> > Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing > any of this? > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 > > Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look > too. No need to transfer test > images to the computer, the blobs can be > seen on the LCD. > > >>> > >>> Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides > being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting > as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is falling" kind > of way. > >>> > >>> Seriously... why would a person even bother > looking for something like this unless it's affecting the > output? > >>> > >>> And by "affect the output" I mean: can this > really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a > blank grey surface? > >> > >> It could be seen on any number of small aperture > shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. > >> Paul > > > > Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em > coming. > > > > My test unit has a string of blobs near the center > (most people seem > > to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). > They are > > noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a > blank surface; I > > suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) > they should > > *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely > photograph at such > > apertures, but I can imagine people shooting > landscapes would be > > annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then > again, a blob in > > a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, > we'd all prefer > > not to have to clone out blobs as part of our > postprocessing. > > > > > > I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy > reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white > and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were > f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few > specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, > and the dust was gone. I get pure white. > Paul > > > > —M. > > > > \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > > > > http://EnticingTheLight.com > > A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: > >> On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: >>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: > Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 > > Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test > images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. > Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is falling" kind of way. Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? >>> >>> It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely >>> going to test for it. >>> Paul >> >> Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. >> >> My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem >> to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). They are >> noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I >> suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should >> *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such >> apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be >> annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in >> a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer >> not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. >> >> > > I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I > filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about > 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a > few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust > was gone. I get pure white. > Paul That's good news, Paul. For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined using the sky or a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not sure why anyone would want advice on improving their blob definition, but it's one of the many useful services I provide to the community. Because giving back is important. —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
Miserere wrote: No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Just checked: my K-5 is unblobbed. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist wrote: >> >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: >> >>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: >>> Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. >>> >>> Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is >>> no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is >>> falling" kind of way. >>> >>> Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this >>> unless it's affecting the output? >>> >>> And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something >>> other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? >> >> It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going >> to test for it. >> Paul > > Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. > > My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem > to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). They are > noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I > suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should > *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such > apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be > annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in > a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer > not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. > > I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. Paul > —M. > >\/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > >http://EnticingTheLight.com >A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso 1st snow in chicago
I like the rendering, Christine. They are all "nice", but this one is nicer: http://www.caguila.com/caguila/1stsnow2010/content/IMGP4683_large.html For some reason, I'm also drawn to this one: http://www.caguila.com/caguila/1stsnow2010/content/IMGP4778_large.html I will note that many of these break Caguila's Law of Photography: "Thou shalt not taketh photographs without a human being in them." Wharup wi dat, Christine? I was in Chicago for a brief 2 hours last Monday. It was a spur of the moment visit which is why I didn't call you. Maybe next time I'll get my act together and plan ahead. Maybe next time I'll miss the snow again :-) By the way, Boston is still snowless, so you beat us on that front (get it???). Take care, —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 5 December 2010 17:35, Christine Aguila wrote: > If you don't like the renderings here, feel free to say so. Not a problem. > > http://www.caguila.com/caguila/1stsnow2010/ > > Comments welcome. > > Cheers, Christine > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
From: Eric Weir I may already have gotten to the thing you say looks like a generating plant, though not in low light. In any case, back in October, a couple days before I left for Arizona, I drove up to KEH to pick up the smc m 135/3.5 I'd bought from them. On the way up I noticed the plant off to the right. I was intrigued that it looked unused. On the way back I pulled off Cobb Drive and drove back into the site. Turned out it was an incinerator that was no longer being used. However, they were hauling in truck loads of vegetation refuse -- leaves, tree branches, and such -- and loading it into a grinder. Looked like they were planning to compost the stuff or use it for mulch. Dropped into street view at the nearest point I could get to the site. Turns out to be the site entrance & there's a sign that says "Georgia Power". Looking at it from the Satellite view, you can see the transformer yards, the cooling water intake structure on the Chattahoochee and a mountain of coal on the north side of the plant. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Messages not getting through
On 10-12-06 2:45 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Make certain your post are all in plain text, without and rich formatting. Ah! Thanks. I indented a paragraph, Mail asked if I wanted to convert to rich text, I said, "Oh, alright." -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Mail must have mistakenly thought you were composing a message for one of the Leica lists. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good/Bad news about my "all-green" K-7
P N Stenquist wrote: Very nice. I would pull down the highlights a bit, but otherwise they look darn good. Paul They sure do -- ann On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 5, 2010, at 23:10, P. J. Alling wrote: You've got one channel I don;t think you're going to have a lot of control, brightness and contrast is about it. Heh. Yeah, I was going to amend my post with that observation... It is a little bit freeing when all you can do is brightness, contrast, and the "recovery/shadows". Still, it worked out well. Punched up the exposure/contrast and they came out looking OK. I still wish I could have shot this in color (well, more than one color) but I got a few shots that I would call 'acceptable' http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/new_standards_holiday_show/index.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > >> On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: >> >>> Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? >>> >>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 >>> >>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 >>> >>> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test >>> images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. >>> >> >> Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is >> no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is >> falling" kind of way. >> >> Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this >> unless it's affecting the output? >> >> And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something >> other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? > > It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going > to test for it. > Paul Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem to report them "near the center" for what it's worth). They are noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. —M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good/Bad news about my "all-green" K-7
On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:57, John Sessoms wrote: >> >> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/new_standards_holiday_show/index.html > > It would be a slightly better presentation if all of the images had an > explanatory caption instead of just some of them. > I thought about that.. but sometimes I found myself thinking: "Yeah, that's John and Steve again" and without having anything more original to say so just let it go. I'll see what I can do (in the future) thanks for the feedback. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:47 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > If you were to go wandering around there in the dark with a camera I'd say > your chances of getting shot are pretty good. Yeah, that's what occurred to me after I responded to Bob the first time. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: > >> Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 >> >> Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test >> images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. >> > > Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no > problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is falling" > kind of way. > > Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this > unless it's affecting the output? > > And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other > than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
I found out I have a group of dots in the center which is barely visible from f/16. As Charles Robinson wrote, I have to photograph a white paper to see it and it don't bother me too much. I am currently not doing anything with this, but instead wait and see what happens. I also found a lot of ordinary dust spots and I am a little bit surprised it isn't automatically removed. I can't remember a single spot on my K-7. Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Would be interested in hearing from all of you. Cheers, -M. \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Bob W wrote: > don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering > around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm > sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. On second thought, might cause security to take an interest in what I was up to. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On 10-12-06 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a "OMG the sky is falling" kind of way. Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? And by "affect the output" I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? -Charles If you discover one of these blobs, examine it closely. If it looks like the Virgin Mary get that K-5 up on eBay right away. You should be able to afford a new K-5 *and* a 645D with the proceeds! -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Two more PESOs from Boris
From: "Bob W" After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll > never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* > possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would > be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might > offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. Ft McPherson and Ft Gillem are in the Atlanta area. There's also a pretty big Air Force Base (Dobbins) in Smyrna that has a Lockheed-Martin factory on site. If you were to go wandering around there in the dark with a camera I'd say your chances of getting shot are pretty good. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT request: Resources for
On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Eric Weir wrote: >> You might save yourself some grief by >> getting a L308s, which is what I use now when I need an incident reading. > > Thanks, Bob. I'll check it out. I'm a retard. I want the analog. As you probably know, the L398 has been around in various guises for 60 years or more. That really, really appeals to me. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
