Tan and 2011...

[Tanya Love]

Ok, so finally, I have some time to breathe!  I have just returned from a
month of travels, with three separate interstate trips (a week in
Wollongong, a week in Sydney and another week in Perth).  These trips
combined resulted in me completing a total of 35 portrait sittings, 7 full
day commercial shoots, and a total of 6500 frames captured (yes, in less
than one month!).

I am freakin' buggered...

So now I am home, and have actually unpacked my suitcases for the first time
in six months.  I have promised my poor kids that I am not going to do any
actual shoots for the entire remaining duration of December and for the
first two weeks of January, when it will, of course all begin again...

The newest (commercial) stuff that I have around the place can be found
here:

www.bowtique.com.au (my shots are on the home page slideshow, which they
have trashed with their stretching/cropping of them for the dimensions of
the slideshow, I wish people would learn how to do these things properly!).

www.cushietushies.com.au (just round up a huge (and fun, and VERY messy!)
campaign for these guys!  They will be slowly releasing images in coming
months, but there is some stuff on the home page of the site.  You can see a
full gallery here: http://www.lovebytes.com.au/cushietushies/fulllmontygal/
and here: http://www.lovebytes.com.au/cushietushies/fulllmontygal2 (the last
shot in the second gallery is my hands down favourite!(you'll need a
username/password to access it which are: username: pdml password:pdml10 -
oh and ignore the crappy product shots, they were a last minute request and
I shot them in the directors loungeroom using only one light and an af360fgz
to light the sheet I had to use as a background.  They were to be deep
etched sorying to blow it out properly etc...).  

http://ecopeko.com/ (homepage images of the kids on the beach are mine)

www.jazslings.com.au (they aren't using my shots on their (very ugly!)
website yet, but you can see a few of them here:
http://www.facebook.com/BabySling )

http://blog.agooapparel.com/ (all of the images used in blog entries from
November 3rd onwards are mine)
http://agooleggings.com/ (most images on here are mine except for the flat
lay product shots)
http://www.agoo4u.com/ (all images here are mine except for flat lay product
shots)

I have a whole stack of new stuff in the works, including some more kids
fashion spreads and my first (well-known/high end) magazine cover that will
be released in May next year (it is for a bi-annual magazine so a lot of
mileage comes from that one cover!).  The magazine is LittleONE Baby
(www.littleonebaby.com.au) - there are a few shots on the slideshow/mini mag
that are mine but it is a print mag, so you need to see the actual
publication to see my work in full.  These are the guys that I have been
shooting interiors for...

I have also presented a total of 6 workshops in 3 states in the past 2
months, with a similar schedule slated for 2011.

Oh, and I've finally gotten around to completing my AIPP membership and
having my portfolio approved (which thankfully, it was!), so can start
spruiking the logo and some letters after my name soon which will be great
for my credibility etc.

So what are my goals for 2011?  Well, I have decided that it is about time
that I pull my finger out and win some competitions!  Aiming high for the
APPA awards, as well as some Botanic Garden awards, our Lord Mayor's
Brisbane comp, and a few others that I hope my ego holds up in!  I need some
"Winner of the xyz Award" under my belt to get Pentax and some others that I
am working on to take notice of me!

Pentax wise - gotta get my K-5 yet (have dragged the chain a bit on that one
on account of being so busy this month), as well as a couple of new lenses
now that I have my studio set up complete. Still deciding between wide angle
zooms, but definitely going to get my hands on some limited lenses this year
I reckon.

I also have two ebooks not far from being released and my very special
Abandoned Babies project that is taking shape nicely too...

Oh, and I have my sights set on Pentaxian.com too, I reckon I need to make
myself known in those circles - any pointers/tips from you regulars
(Godfrey??)...

Another crazy year ahead, what about you guys and girls...?

Tan.x.









Tanya Love
Photographer

www.lovebytes.com.au
www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto
www.loveandsoul.com.au 
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RE: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML

[Tanya Love]

That's so awesome Mark!

Maybe I should gift him with the fruits of some of my upcoming projects too,
good for some exposure I reckon! :)

Tan.x.

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Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2010 2:53 AM
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Thanks for the props, everyone. I noticed the plug from Ned yesterday when
several orders for the book popped up out of nowhere. I have an email from
Ned to which I haven't yet replied (last week of classes - very hectic) but
I'll thank him next. You guys come first, of course
;-)

BTW: The book orders I've had so far have been for the ebook version.
It's only five dollars, but I make more profit on that (five dollars, to be
precise) than I do from the print version. 


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PESO: Roman Ceiling

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The ceiling of the Basilica Santa Maria Maggiore:

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=36

Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse Always Welcome.

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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RE: monitors

[Tanya Love]

Me too, I use two Dell U2410s (landscape oriented), one is calibrated for
photo editing, the other just for general work, and I luurv them...

No way would I ever go back to using only one monitor or a monitor of lesser
quality after using these babies for 6 months.

Tan.x.

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I'm sitting at front of DELL U2410 (portrait oriented), and think that it is
great. Not cheap, however.
There are newer models around, with better performance.

Gasha

Tim Bray wrote:
> Yeah, I bought the same NEC that James Duncan Davidson recommended:
> http://www.necdisplay.com/products/product/?product=1713e080-c8e3-4aab
> -9447-73dacb301b84
> 
> Trouble is, this thing makes your pictures look better than they 
> really are.  And these high-accuracy NEC screens ain't cheap.
> 
>  -T
> 

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RE: from the lunatic fringe of the pentax forum

[Tanya Love]

Paul, you forgot to add "religion", "abortion" and "politics"!

Tan.x.

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In truth, we're a bit more mature than the others. We've been around for a
dozen years and wore out the hand-wringing thing a while back. I think we've
learned that there will inevitably be problems with anything as complex as a
DSLR, and sometimes we have to be a bit patient while those problems are
sorted out. More importantly, we have other things to talk about: beer,
coffee, guns, personal issues, etc. Oh, and pictures. We actually talk about
pictures much more than we talk about the cameras that take the pictures.
That's a healthy thing.
Paul
On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:

> We are happy in our martyrdom?
> 
> On 07/12/2010, at 1:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> 
>> Whereas the PDML exhibits the satisfied cynicism of those who expect 
>> the worst.  Our motto:  If there's nothing wrong, it isn't a Pentax.
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Paul Ewins 
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>>> Occasionally the Pentax forum looks like the voice of sweet reason when
compared to the DPR forums.
>>> 
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RE: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

[Tanya Love]

Me too frank, unless I feed the kids on bread and water for the next six
months...

I would love to make a "reappearance" though!  Maybe I'll make it a priority
and my motivation to get some big jobs happening between now and then. It
sure was fun last time, bloody cold though!

Tan.x.

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On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Christine  Aguila 
wrote:
> Just wondering:   who's going?  Is there hope for a big do?  Cheers,

Poverty will likely prevent my going - unless something good happens soon.

cheers,
frank

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Re: OT: Photographer Monique

[Walter Gilbert]

 Thanks again, Paul.  I have started shooting in RAW, but just haven't 
had much to shoot of late.  Also, I really need to get more memory for 
my computer before I can do much work with RAW files.  I only have 1 GB 
at the moment, so the files tend to be a pretty big drain on my 
resources.   I'm hoping after Christmas that'll be less of an issue, though.


-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 10:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:


   Thanks, Paul.

I agree that the true beauty is in the moments captured, but I really love the 
rendering as well.  Maybe -1/2 step on exposure compensation to start with?

-- Walt

Perhaps. Although it can be done in rendering as well if you shoot RAW. You 
just want to pull down the midrange and shadows. I would shoot some sample 
shots of a willing subject and experiment with exposure and conversion until 
you get the look you want. Of course, getting that all the time isn't easy, 
because the camera will move the exposure around a bit. You have to know how to 
turn the knobs to compensate. That requires practice and study.
Paul

On 12/11/2010 10:22 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

The beauty of these is in the special moments that have been captured. If 
you're talking about the rendering, It's a matter of emphasizing midrange and 
shadow through exposure a bit on the minus side and consequent deep skin tones 
and shadows.
Paul

On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:


Hi all,

I stumbled across this link the other day looking for something interesting to 
post on my Facebook page, and was just struck by some of the images.  There are 
a few that really stood out to me and I was hoping someone might be able to 
tell me how to go about approximating the effect:

http://smashingpicture.com/photographer-monique/

Here are the particular images:

http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni4.jpg
http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni5.jpg
http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni7.jpg

I just love the overall tone of the images, and especially the skin tones -- 
the third image being the best exemplar of what I'd like to accomplish.  There 
just seems to be so much depth to it.  Any ideas how I might go about achieving 
that?

Thanks!

Walt



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Re: PESO: A common sight on my daily commute.

[Bob Sullivan]

Cesar,
Interesting, it has me asking questions about the weathered / broken
sign and the simple church.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Cesar Matamoros II
 wrote:
> I decided to take some time on the way home from work and take some photos.
>  Unfortunately, the sun was not in a good position for the shot I wanted.
>  This is the best I could do.
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/23229099
>
> The funny thing is that once I was finished taking my photos the police
> pulled up and wanted to make sure I was all right since I had pulled off the
> main road.
>
> So there was no hassle about taking photos, just concern for my well being -
> I guess this is what a community of 1000 people think about...
>
> César
> Lynn Haven, Florida
>
>
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Re: Firmware 1.01

[Bob Sullivan]

My folks had a german shepherd and so did one of my mom's co-workers.
The co-worker's shepherd liked water.  She found it one day sitting in
the dishwater in the kitchen sink.  This was bad enough, but it was
followed up by her drawing a bath later in the week.  She found the
dog sitting in her bubble bath.  After that, she shut the bathroom
door whenever she drew a bath.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:12 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Your wife fits in the kitchen sink, she must be quite petite.
>
> On 12/11/2010 8:44 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2010, at 3:22 AM, David Mann wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:26 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

> Yes. I just tried it at Is)1600 while my wife was giving the dog a
> bath. I got about 15 frames continuous.

 I guess that you've been married a while if you're taking photos of the
 dog getting a bath.
>>>
>>> My impression was that the wife was in the bath too.
>>
>> HAR! No, she washes him in the kitchen sink.
>> Paul
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>>
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Re: OT: Photographer Monique

[paul stenquist]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

>   Thanks, Paul.
> 
> I agree that the true beauty is in the moments captured, but I really love 
> the rendering as well.  Maybe -1/2 step on exposure compensation to start 
> with?
> 
> -- Walt

Perhaps. Although it can be done in rendering as well if you shoot RAW. You 
just want to pull down the midrange and shadows. I would shoot some sample 
shots of a willing subject and experiment with exposure and conversion until 
you get the look you want. Of course, getting that all the time isn't easy, 
because the camera will move the exposure around a bit. You have to know how to 
turn the knobs to compensate. That requires practice and study.
Paul
> 
> On 12/11/2010 10:22 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> The beauty of these is in the special moments that have been captured. If 
>> you're talking about the rendering, It's a matter of emphasizing midrange 
>> and shadow through exposure a bit on the minus side and consequent deep skin 
>> tones and shadows.
>> Paul
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I stumbled across this link the other day looking for something interesting 
>>> to post on my Facebook page, and was just struck by some of the images.  
>>> There are a few that really stood out to me and I was hoping someone might 
>>> be able to tell me how to go about approximating the effect:
>>> 
>>> http://smashingpicture.com/photographer-monique/
>>> 
>>> Here are the particular images:
>>> 
>>> http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni4.jpg
>>> http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni5.jpg
>>> http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni7.jpg
>>> 
>>> I just love the overall tone of the images, and especially the skin tones 
>>> -- the third image being the best exemplar of what I'd like to accomplish.  
>>> There just seems to be so much depth to it.  Any ideas how I might go about 
>>> achieving that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Walt
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OT: Photographer Monique

[Walter Gilbert]

   Thanks, Paul.

I agree that the true beauty is in the moments captured, but I really 
love the rendering as well.  Maybe -1/2 step on exposure compensation to 
start with?


-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 10:22 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

The beauty of these is in the special moments that have been captured. If 
you're talking about the rendering, It's a matter of emphasizing midrange and 
shadow through exposure a bit on the minus side and consequent deep skin tones 
and shadows.
Paul

On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:


Hi all,

I stumbled across this link the other day looking for something interesting to 
post on my Facebook page, and was just struck by some of the images.  There are 
a few that really stood out to me and I was hoping someone might be able to 
tell me how to go about approximating the effect:

http://smashingpicture.com/photographer-monique/

Here are the particular images:

http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni4.jpg
http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni5.jpg
http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni7.jpg

I just love the overall tone of the images, and especially the skin tones -- 
the third image being the best exemplar of what I'd like to accomplish.  There 
just seems to be so much depth to it.  Any ideas how I might go about achieving 
that?

Thanks!

Walt



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Re: OT: The time has come

[Eric Weir]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> I'll be headed out soon, getting down to Raleigh so I'll be in place for my 
> flight tomorrow morning. I'll be shutting down my computer just before I 
> leave here.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm down to the point that all I have left to do is tidy up my apartment a 
> little bit and put my bags in my car.

Might be gone already, but if not, have a good trip, John.

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Re: OT: Photographer Monique

[paul stenquist]

The beauty of these is in the special moments that have been captured. If 
you're talking about the rendering, It's a matter of emphasizing midrange and 
shadow through exposure a bit on the minus side and consequent deep skin tones 
and shadows.
Paul

On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I stumbled across this link the other day looking for something interesting 
> to post on my Facebook page, and was just struck by some of the images.  
> There are a few that really stood out to me and I was hoping someone might be 
> able to tell me how to go about approximating the effect:
> 
> http://smashingpicture.com/photographer-monique/
> 
> Here are the particular images:
> 
> http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni4.jpg
> http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni5.jpg
> http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni7.jpg
> 
> I just love the overall tone of the images, and especially the skin tones -- 
> the third image being the best exemplar of what I'd like to accomplish.  
> There just seems to be so much depth to it.  Any ideas how I might go about 
> achieving that?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Walt
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - The Coffee Shop Portraits

[paul stenquist]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, P N Stenquist  
> wrote:
> 
>> Coffee Shop Portraits:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072552&size=lg
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072551&size=lg
>> 
>> Both with K-5 and DA* 50-135, ISO 2000, f4.
>> 
>> Shot the tiger fan with live view after he had caught me twice with the 
>> camera raised.
> 
> I like em both. The intensity in both of them. The white space angling up 
> from the bottom left of the Tiger fan detracts a little.
> 
> Question: Do you let people know you're gonna shoot em before you do? 

I try not to let them know I'm going to shoot them. I don't want posed 
portraits. I'm trying for  a bit of reality, preserved photographically. The 
fellow with the Detroit cap had caught me raising my camera earlier. When I 
knew I was nailed, I pretended to be fooling around, focusing on different 
things. Later, I shot him with live view, the camera on my lap. Thus, the back 
of the chair in frame.
Paul

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Re: PESO: Snowbound

[Jack Davis]

Wow and burrr! I can 'see' the dry cold of that snow. I grew up in the state 
just south of you. Iowa isn't, however, far enough south to enjoy much of a 
climate difference. 

Jack  

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> Subject: PESO: Snowbound
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 7:20 PM
> You can always tell the direction of
> the prevailing winds by which side of a car is completely
> covered in snow.
> 
> It's been snowy here in Minneapolis today.
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP1459.jpg
> 
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Re: PESO: Snowbound

[Walter Gilbert]

   Yikes!  Time to bring in the brass monkey.

Supposed to get down to around 10 here in Kentucky for the next couple 
of nights, with winds around 20-30mph and gusts up to 45.  That's plenty 
cold for me.  Not sure what that translates to in wind chill, but I'm 
pretty sure it's nowhere -20 -- which is nice.


-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 9:45 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Dec 11, 2010, at 21:39, Eric Weir wrote:


On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:


It's been snowy here in Minneapolis today.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP1459.jpg

I'd say. Originally from the Midwest. Don't know if I could handle it anymore. 
Thirty degrees seems cold now, and we've been getting 20's


"Sunday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around -14. Wind chill values between 
-23 and -33. Northwest wind between 10 and 14 mph.

Monday: Mostly sunny and cold, with a high near 2. Wind chill values between -22 and 
-32. Northwest wind between 6 and 9 mph."

(This is in Fahrenheit, folks)

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OT: Photographer Monique

[Walter Gilbert]

 Hi all,

I stumbled across this link the other day looking for something 
interesting to post on my Facebook page, and was just struck by some of 
the images.  There are a few that really stood out to me and I was 
hoping someone might be able to tell me how to go about approximating 
the effect:


http://smashingpicture.com/photographer-monique/

Here are the particular images:

http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni4.jpg
http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni5.jpg
http://smashingpicture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/moni7.jpg

I just love the overall tone of the images, and especially the skin 
tones -- the third image being the best exemplar of what I'd like to 
accomplish.  There just seems to be so much depth to it.  Any ideas how 
I might go about achieving that?


Thanks!

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Re: PESO - The Coffee Shop Portraits

[Eric Weir]

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, P N Stenquist  wrote:

> Coffee Shop Portraits:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072552&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072551&size=lg
> 
> Both with K-5 and DA* 50-135, ISO 2000, f4.
> 
> Shot the tiger fan with live view after he had caught me twice with the 
> camera raised.

I like em both. The intensity in both of them. The white space angling up from 
the bottom left of the Tiger fan detracts a little.

Question: Do you let people know you're gonna shoot em before you do? 

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Re: PESO: Snowbound

[Charles Robinson]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 21:39, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
> 
>> It's been snowy here in Minneapolis today.
>> 
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP1459.jpg
> 
> I'd say. Originally from the Midwest. Don't know if I could handle it 
> anymore. Thirty degrees seems cold now, and we've been getting 20's
> 

"Sunday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around -14. Wind chill values between 
-23 and -33. Northwest wind between 10 and 14 mph. 

Monday: Mostly sunny and cold, with a high near 2. Wind chill values between 
-22 and -32. Northwest wind between 6 and 9 mph."

(This is in Fahrenheit, folks)

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Re: PESO: Snowbound

[Eric Weir]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> It's been snowy here in Minneapolis today.
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP1459.jpg

I'd say. Originally from the Midwest. Don't know if I could handle it anymore. 
Thirty degrees seems cold now, and we've been getting 20's

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Re: PESO: Snowbound

[Charles Robinson]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 21:31, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Wow.  That really conveys the feeling of the place and the storm.
> 

I got there by snowshoe.  Fun!

K10D, DA*16-50, ISO 200, 5 seconds at f/9.0.

It was fun using a tripod in the 20-40mph winds.

At least it wasn't cold yet - still about 15F which makes it manageable!

>> 
>> It's been snowy here in Minneapolis today.
>> 
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP1459.jpg
>> 
>>  -Charles



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Re: Which is the preferred battery charger

[Eric Weir]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

> On 11 December 2010 11:03, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> The charger that seems to work best with my AA hybrids is starting to get a 
>> bit flaky.  There was a discussion a couple weeks back on the subject of 
>> chargers and I thought i saved it, but can't find it.
>> What is the battery charger that is so highly recommended?
> 
> I think it was the LaCrosse BC-900.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg372271.html

I bought the BC-700. Sophisticated testing capabilities. And modes to fully 
discharge a batter before recharging it and to refresh older batteries by 
running them through a large number of discharge/recharge cycles, as well as 
simple charge mode. 

Charges four batteries at a time -- AAA as well as AA -- and the charging mode 
can be set separately for each battery. Haven't had occasion to use em, but 
sounds like they're eager to help, too.

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Re: PESO: Snowbound

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Wow.  That really conveys the feeling of the place and the storm.

Dan
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On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> You can always tell the direction of the prevailing winds by which side of a 
> car is completely covered in snow.
>
> It's been snowy here in Minneapolis today.
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP1459.jpg
>
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PESO: Snowbound

[Charles Robinson]

You can always tell the direction of the prevailing winds by which side of a 
car is completely covered in snow.

It's been snowy here in Minneapolis today.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP1459.jpg

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Re: PESO: Reflecting Baltimore -- New Version

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks.  I changed the background from light green to white, in
response to comments here.

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On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dan,
> I like the 2nd better and the background is fine, but I'm looking at
> it a bit late.
> Regards,  Bob S.


> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> Thanks, Rick.
>>
>> I changed the background.  Please let me know if it is better.
>>
>> Dan
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>> The new version is a big improvement.
>>>
>>> The background, though
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 12/9/10, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>>
 From: Daniel J. Matyola 
 Subject: PESO: Reflecting Baltimore -- New Version
 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
 Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 12:28 PM
 I played around some more with this
 image, and cropped and adjusted it
 a bit.  I put the new version on my blog, right below
 the original.  I
 would appreciate frank comments on which works best, and on
 the
 weaknesses of each.

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=20

 Thanks in advance for your help.

 As always, Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are
 Welcome.

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PESO: A common sight on my daily commute.

[Cesar Matamoros II]

I decided to take some time on the way home from work and take some 
photos.  Unfortunately, the sun was not in a good position for the shot 
I wanted.  This is the best I could do.


http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/23229099

The funny thing is that once I was finished taking my photos the police 
pulled up and wanted to make sure I was all right since I had pulled off 
the main road.


So there was no hassle about taking photos, just concern for my well 
being - I guess this is what a community of 1000 people think about...


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Re: OT: The time has come

[Cotty]

On 11/12/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

>local food - birds on a stick

Been to a Christmas party tonight - coulda done with a bit  a that!!!

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Re: OT: The time has come

[Bob Sullivan]

local food - birds on a stick:-(

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:06 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> Have a good trip John!
> Try to skip freedom and the Nobel peace prize when you chat with the
> locals, use up your Kodachrome, eat local food and generally have a
> good time
> Ecke
>
> 2010/12/11 Bob Sullivan :
>> Have a good trip John!  China isn't it?
>> Be prepared to be an old man in a young society.
>> Look for high-rise buildings being built with bamboo scaffolding!
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:32 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>> ... almost.
>>>
>>> I'll be headed out soon, getting down to Raleigh so I'll be in place for my
>>> flight tomorrow morning. I'll be shutting down my computer just before I
>>> leave here.
>>>
>>> I decided not to take a laptop with me. I can scrounge time on some of my
>>> fellow travelers' laptops to transfer images from my camera cards to my
>>> portable hard drive. Don't know if I'll need to, I've got a bunch of cards -
>>> 8 x 8GB, 8 x 4GB, and 8 x 2GB.
>>>
>>> I'm almost packed. I've double & triple checked everything.
>>>
>>> All I still have to do is stuff clean socks into various bags & pockets. And
>>> I have to pick up my shower shoes from the house in Raleigh. Got a to do
>>> list I've been checking items off to make sure I don't forget anything, and
>>> "get shower shoes from home" is all that's left on it.
>>>
>>> I'm down to the point that all I have left to do is tidy up my apartment a
>>> little bit and put my bags in my car.
>>>
>>> Should be back on list in about eleven days, although I'll still be looking
>>> at anything that comes through in the next few hours.
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Re: First photo at PPG

[Bob Sullivan]

Ted,
The size of the displayed photo and the Rube-Goldberg nature of the
Pentax Gallery doesn't do justice to your fine photo.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> On 10-12-09 8:06 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote:
>>
>> Still can't submit to the PUG for the rejected theme. One accepted and
>> nine
>> still waiting review.
>>
>>
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTIST&subSection=11214861&subSubSection=1141&language=EN
>>
>>
>> > From the trip with Walter to Steel Creek.
>>
>> Ted
>>  "The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer." Albert
>> Maysle
>
> Great shot, Ted. The reflections are very strong with deep colour. Just
> curious: did you use a polarizer?
>
> I see that the PPG Flash code is just as ponderous and baroque as ever. I
> almost bailed before seeing your shot. But I'm glad I waited for the whole
> Rube-Goldbergian affair to finish. :-)
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> -bmw
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Re: PESO: Reflecting Baltimore -- New Version

[Bob Sullivan]

Dan,
I like the 2nd better and the background is fine, but I'm looking at
it a bit late.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Thanks, Rick.
>
> I changed the background.  Please let me know if it is better.
>
> Dan
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> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> The new version is a big improvement.
>>
>> The background, though
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 12/9/10, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
>>> Subject: PESO: Reflecting Baltimore -- New Version
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 12:28 PM
>>> I played around some more with this
>>> image, and cropped and adjusted it
>>> a bit.  I put the new version on my blog, right below
>>> the original.  I
>>> would appreciate frank comments on which works best, and on
>>> the
>>> weaknesses of each.
>>>
>>> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=20
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> As always, Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are
>>> Welcome.
>>>
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Re: Geso Stouffville Santa Claus Parade

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,
Lots of photos and I'm beginning to recognize some folks now.
Maybe I can become an unofficial resident!
Memorable for me...
The guy on the high wheel bike - good composition on the move.
The team pulling the meat market's wagon looks classy.
The Pig on the flatbed.
The 18 wheeler cab with the softball cap on it.
Your daughter passing out candy on the parade route.
The gingerbread cookies made of gluten free flour.
The chicken hanging out in front of the Schnell Lumber company's float.
The Markham Fair folks.
And many others I forget.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:23 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-parade/album/index.html
>
> About 130 or so, if you feel like it.
>
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Re: Firmware 1.01

[paul stenquist]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Your wife fits in the kitchen sink, she must be quite petite.

She'll be pleased that you said so:-).  In truth, she doesn't fit in the 
kitchen sink any more. Although thirty-eight years ago when I remodeled the 
bathroom in our bungalow, my wife and I both showered in the kitchen sink. One 
at a time.  There was a window in the back door, which made it a bit dicey. I 
don't think my wife ever got caught, but I recall standing in the sink, doing 
my best to get to, well, everything, when I suddenly saw my sister-in-law's 
face in the window, with her jaw down to, well, there. A bit of an embarrassing 
moment, but early seventies social etiquette made that borderline acceptable 
behavior. 
Paul
> 
> On 12/11/2010 8:44 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> On Dec 11, 2010, at 3:22 AM, David Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> 
 On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:26 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
 
> Yes. I just tried it at Is)1600 while my wife was giving the dog a bath. 
> I got about 15 frames continuous.
 I guess that you've been married a while if you're taking photos of the 
 dog getting a bath.
>>> My impression was that the wife was in the bath too.
>> HAR! No, she washes him in the kitchen sink.
>> Paul
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
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Re: Back in the fold

[Ann Sanfedele]

AlunFoto wrote:


Hi folks,

Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.

So what's been up lately?

Jostein

 


Boy are you asking for it! :-)

Welcome back super-shooter  


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Re: OT: The time has come

[eckinator]

Have a good trip John!
Try to skip freedom and the Nobel peace prize when you chat with the
locals, use up your Kodachrome, eat local food and generally have a
good time
Ecke

2010/12/11 Bob Sullivan :
> Have a good trip John!  China isn't it?
> Be prepared to be an old man in a young society.
> Look for high-rise buildings being built with bamboo scaffolding!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:32 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>> ... almost.
>>
>> I'll be headed out soon, getting down to Raleigh so I'll be in place for my
>> flight tomorrow morning. I'll be shutting down my computer just before I
>> leave here.
>>
>> I decided not to take a laptop with me. I can scrounge time on some of my
>> fellow travelers' laptops to transfer images from my camera cards to my
>> portable hard drive. Don't know if I'll need to, I've got a bunch of cards -
>> 8 x 8GB, 8 x 4GB, and 8 x 2GB.
>>
>> I'm almost packed. I've double & triple checked everything.
>>
>> All I still have to do is stuff clean socks into various bags & pockets. And
>> I have to pick up my shower shoes from the house in Raleigh. Got a to do
>> list I've been checking items off to make sure I don't forget anything, and
>> "get shower shoes from home" is all that's left on it.
>>
>> I'm down to the point that all I have left to do is tidy up my apartment a
>> little bit and put my bags in my car.
>>
>> Should be back on list in about eleven days, although I'll still be looking
>> at anything that comes through in the next few hours.
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Re: Back in the fold

[P. J. Alling]

Glad to hear you're alive.

On 12/11/2010 1:41 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

Hi folks,

Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.

So what's been up lately?

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Re: Back in the fold

[P. J. Alling]

I though it was a fork, with that horned helmet and all...

On 12/11/2010 1:47 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 11/12/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:


Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.

So what's been up lately?

Oh bloody hell the Vikings have arrived.

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Re: PESO -- Trees and Stars

[P. J. Alling]

On 12/11/2010 11:03 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:02 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

I'm not sure if this is a high concept of I;m just high on fatigue.

Terrific!

cheers,
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Re: Back in the fold

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On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> Hi folks,
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> Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.
>
> So what's been up lately?

Pentax has a FF camera, and some one wants AF-C lock up

Dave
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Re: Firmware 1.01

[P. J. Alling]

Your wife fits in the kitchen sink, she must be quite petite.

On 12/11/2010 8:44 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

On Dec 11, 2010, at 3:22 AM, David Mann wrote:


On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:26 AM, paul stenquist wrote:


Yes. I just tried it at Is)1600 while my wife was giving the dog a bath. I got 
about 15 frames continuous.

I guess that you've been married a while if you're taking photos of the dog 
getting a bath.

My impression was that the wife was in the bath too.

HAR! No, she washes him in the kitchen sink.
Paul

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PESO 2010 - Passing Chair - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

A new diptych ... 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5252142455/in/photostream/lightbox/

My caption:

"I'm always fascinated with the capture of motion in still photographs. I made 
the first exposure as I was pondering the balance of light and dark, hard and 
soft edges in the scene in front of me. Just after I'd made the exposure, the 
bicyclist entered the frame and I immediately made a second. Seeing just one 
didn't do anything for me, but when I framed them together a different 
statement emerged from the combination of images."

enjoy
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Re: OT: The time has come

[Bob Sullivan]

Have a good trip John!  China isn't it?
Be prepared to be an old man in a young society.
Look for high-rise buildings being built with bamboo scaffolding!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:32 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> ... almost.
>
> I'll be headed out soon, getting down to Raleigh so I'll be in place for my
> flight tomorrow morning. I'll be shutting down my computer just before I
> leave here.
>
> I decided not to take a laptop with me. I can scrounge time on some of my
> fellow travelers' laptops to transfer images from my camera cards to my
> portable hard drive. Don't know if I'll need to, I've got a bunch of cards -
> 8 x 8GB, 8 x 4GB, and 8 x 2GB.
>
> I'm almost packed. I've double & triple checked everything.
>
> All I still have to do is stuff clean socks into various bags & pockets. And
> I have to pick up my shower shoes from the house in Raleigh. Got a to do
> list I've been checking items off to make sure I don't forget anything, and
> "get shower shoes from home" is all that's left on it.
>
> I'm down to the point that all I have left to do is tidy up my apartment a
> little bit and put my bags in my car.
>
> Should be back on list in about eleven days, although I'll still be looking
> at anything that comes through in the next few hours.
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Re: Back in the fold

[eckinator]

The Norseman we love to hate! Welcome back Jostein =)
Ecke

2010/12/11 Larry Colen :
>
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:41 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.
>
> Welcome back.
>
> You aren't allowed to post any photos though, I'm having a hard enough time 
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Re: Back in the fold

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On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:41 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.

Welcome back.  

You aren't allowed to post any photos though, I'm having a hard enough time 
maintaining the fantasy that I'm a decent photographer without people showing 
off how it is supposed to be done.


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Re: Back in the fold

[Bob Sullivan]

Welcome back Jostein, hope things aren't too hectic.
Some of us are enjoying the new K-5.
Shooting in the dark is possible, well maybe the twilight...
The low light performance is so good that autofocus starts to look a bit weak.
Regards,  Bob S.

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>
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Re: PESO 2010 - 221 - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Quite interesting.

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
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>
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Re: PESO santacon

[Larry Colen]

One interesting aspect about the SantaCon photos is that they were all shot 
with my sigma 20/1.8.

After the initial fun of playing with it, I had gotten frustrated by the 
focusing on that lens. At the distances I bought it for, it's very tough to 
focus manually. At the light levels that I bought it for, it's very tough to 
autofocus.  Once I finally got the 16-50, I also had something wider, sharper, 
and reasonably fast.

However, I knew that the 16-50 wasn't going to be fast enough, even on the K-x, 
to use in dive bars, the 31 wouldn't be wide enough, and besides I only wanted 
to carry one camera+lens.  It's funny how things will happen, and lenses that 
had been pretty much ignored for months, or longer, will suddenly get a lot of 
use.

I suspect that when I get a K-5, my 18-250 will suddenly be fast enough that 
it's incredible range will cause me to start using it a lot more than I have 
been for the past year or so.

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Re: PESO 2010 - 221 - GDG

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On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> A new photo blog post available for your viewing: 
> 
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> 
> Thanks for looking! Comments appreciated. 

Classic Godfrey, both images and text.

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Re: I Wish

[Walter Gilbert]

 It varies from one state to the next, and from one jurisdiction 
(district or circuit level) to the next.  In some cases, it's up to the 
judge's discretion, and in others, it's the jury's.  State courts have a 
huge degree of autonomy, even down to the very basis of legal precedent 
-- in most US states, law is based on British common law, whereas, in 
Louisiana, it's French common law.


-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 1:41 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

It's my understanding (in some cases I know to be correct) that in USA civil 
cases, court costs and attorney's fees are included in the award. How common 
this is, is not known to me.

Jack

--- On Sat, 12/11/10, Walter Gilbert  wrote:


From: Walter Gilbert
Subject: Re: I Wish
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 10:16 AM
  It's my understanding that, in the
British system, unlike in the US, the loser of the case is
responsible for the legal fees and court costs of the
winner.  That would tend to make their system more
workable, an d would almost certainly make them more likely
to foot the bill for the highest-paid law firm in Detroit,
knowing they wouldn't have to pay for the other guy's
representation if they lost.

Of course, my understanding could be way off-base. 
But, it seems like I read that somewhere.


-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 12:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "Bob W"


It's a philosophical difference, and no

more "indefensible"

than the US system of "one law

for the rich, one for the poor"

which allows those with deep

enough pockets to buy their way

out of just about any

situation.

My understanding is the British law in

this case is sort of in response

to an old U.S. Supreme Court decision

that EVERY defendant should have

access to adequate legal counsel.

The U.S. decision applied only to

criminal cases, but the British

didn't
make that distinction when Parliament

passed their law. And they

actually put some teeth in their law.

they did make a distinction. There are different

rules and entitlements

applying to criminal and civil law and different

organisations dealing with

each branch.


What I meant is the British applied the concept that

"no one should be denied effective legal representation just
because they can't afford to pay a lawyer" to civil law as
well as criminal cases.

They did not limit it to criminal defendants the way

the U.S. Supreme Court decision did. In the U.S. you can
still be cheated of justice in civil matters simply because
you don't have as much money to pay lawyers as the other
side does.

Civil litigation is expensive, and someone with enough

money can screw you in court - burying you in lawyers,
forcing you to choose between bankruptcy or surrender.
Sometimes both.

It happened to someone I know.

He was a one man shop working on computer networks

starting the early 80s. When the internet began to open up
to commercial operations, he registered his domain name as
gateway.net.

Later a company in South Dakota chose the name

Gateway2000. In the late 90s they realized the 2000 part of
their name was getting ready to become obsolete, and changed
their name to Gateway.

They offered my friend $1000 for the domain name he

had been using for 15 years, and when he declined to sell,
they sued him for trademark infringement. Buried him in
lawyers.

The first thing they did was seek an injunction to

prohibit him from using his domain name until the case was
settled. An injunction the court granted despite his showing
that he had been doing business as Gateway, using the domain
name gateway.net a decade before the Gateway2000 company was
incorporated, and long before they decided to change their
name to simply Gateway.

Gateway2000 had the money, and were able to buy the

court. Their lawyers shopped around until they found a judge
who would grant the injunction.

Bankrupted him. Gateway used their financial muscle to

buy "justice"; or more properly, to deny justice to my
acquaintance.

Which, BTW, is why I never recommend Gateway, and

won't buy anything from them. And since Acer now owns
Gateway, screw them too!

Any human system which tries to be just is subject

to freeloaders, to people

whose entitlement may seem unfair, and to people

we just plain don't like

such as wife-beaters, but that's part of the price

of trying to be a just

society. One that I personally don't mind paying

provided there are

reasonable efforts to identify and deter the few

freeloaders.

I'm not criticizing it. As you might infer from above,

I don't think it's a good idea for "justice" to be for sale
to the highest bidder.




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Re: Back in the fold

[Jack Davis]

Jostein, Welcome! Is all OK? Looking forward to, once again, experiencing your 
work.

Jack 

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> Subject: Back in the fold
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 10:41 AM
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Re: I Wish

[Jack Davis]

It's my understanding (in some cases I know to be correct) that in USA civil 
cases, court costs and attorney's fees are included in the award. How common 
this is, is not known to me.

Jack

--- On Sat, 12/11/10, Walter Gilbert  wrote:

> From: Walter Gilbert 
> Subject: Re: I Wish
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 10:16 AM
>  It's my understanding that, in the
> British system, unlike in the US, the loser of the case is
> responsible for the legal fees and court costs of the
> winner.  That would tend to make their system more
> workable, an d would almost certainly make them more likely
> to foot the bill for the highest-paid law firm in Detroit,
> knowing they wouldn't have to pay for the other guy's
> representation if they lost.
> 
> Of course, my understanding could be way off-base. 
> But, it seems like I read that somewhere.
> 
> -- Walt
> 
> On 12/11/2010 12:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> > From: "Bob W"
> > 
>  It's a philosophical difference, and no
> more "indefensible"
>  > > than the US system of "one law
> for the rich, one for the poor"
>  > > which allows those with deep
> enough pockets to buy their way
>  > > out of just about any
> situation.
> >>> >
> >>> > My understanding is the British law in
> this case is sort of in response
> >>> > to an old U.S. Supreme Court decision
> that EVERY defendant should have
> >>> > access to adequate legal counsel.
> >>> >
> >>> > The U.S. decision applied only to
> criminal cases, but the British
> >>> > didn't
> >>> > make that distinction when Parliament
> passed their law. And they
> >>> > actually put some teeth in their law.
> >> 
> >> they did make a distinction. There are different
> rules and entitlements
> >> applying to criminal and civil law and different
> organisations dealing with
> >> each branch.
> >> 
> > 
> > What I meant is the British applied the concept that
> "no one should be denied effective legal representation just
> because they can't afford to pay a lawyer" to civil law as
> well as criminal cases.
> > 
> > They did not limit it to criminal defendants the way
> the U.S. Supreme Court decision did. In the U.S. you can
> still be cheated of justice in civil matters simply because
> you don't have as much money to pay lawyers as the other
> side does.
> > 
> > Civil litigation is expensive, and someone with enough
> money can screw you in court - burying you in lawyers,
> forcing you to choose between bankruptcy or surrender.
> Sometimes both.
> > 
> > It happened to someone I know.
> > 
> > He was a one man shop working on computer networks
> starting the early 80s. When the internet began to open up
> to commercial operations, he registered his domain name as
> gateway.net.
> > 
> > Later a company in South Dakota chose the name
> Gateway2000. In the late 90s they realized the 2000 part of
> their name was getting ready to become obsolete, and changed
> their name to Gateway.
> > 
> > They offered my friend $1000 for the domain name he
> had been using for 15 years, and when he declined to sell,
> they sued him for trademark infringement. Buried him in
> lawyers.
> > 
> > The first thing they did was seek an injunction to
> prohibit him from using his domain name until the case was
> settled. An injunction the court granted despite his showing
> that he had been doing business as Gateway, using the domain
> name gateway.net a decade before the Gateway2000 company was
> incorporated, and long before they decided to change their
> name to simply Gateway.
> > 
> > Gateway2000 had the money, and were able to buy the
> court. Their lawyers shopped around until they found a judge
> who would grant the injunction.
> > 
> > Bankrupted him. Gateway used their financial muscle to
> buy "justice"; or more properly, to deny justice to my
> acquaintance.
> > 
> > Which, BTW, is why I never recommend Gateway, and
> won't buy anything from them. And since Acer now owns
> Gateway, screw them too!
> > 
> >> Any human system which tries to be just is subject
> to freeloaders, to people
> >> whose entitlement may seem unfair, and to people
> we just plain don't like
> >> such as wife-beaters, but that's part of the price
> of trying to be a just
> >> society. One that I personally don't mind paying
> provided there are
> >> reasonable efforts to identify and deter the few
> freeloaders.
> > 
> > I'm not criticizing it. As you might infer from above,
> I don't think it's a good idea for "justice" to be for sale
> to the highest bidder.
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: OT - London Student Protest in pics

[Bob W]

[...]
> 
> I think the government's policy regarding education costs are short
> sighted, and will cost Britain a lot more more in the years ahead than
> they're ever going to "save" with their cuts and tuition increases.
> 
> This applies to U.S. education policies as well.
> 
> Education should be as close to free as it's possible to make it, so
> that as many can take advantage of it as want to.
> 
> Education is an investment in the future of the nation. Over the long
> term everyone benefits from low cost education, whether you are paying
> tuition yourself or have kids you're going to have to pay tuition for
> in
> the future. Investing in creating an educated population has a very
> high
> Return on Investment.
> 
> But it has to be an investment at the level of the society. It's not
> something an individual, even the wealthiest individual can afford.
> Works the other way as well. Disinvestment in education will bring very
> steep increases in future costs.

I completely agree. I was lucky enough to be in a generation which was paid
to go into further education. I've more than repaid the costs in the taxes
I've paid by earning more than I would otherwise have done, and so have most
of my family and friends.

[...]
> 
> OTOH, the student's behavior won't garner them much sympathy.

I dunno. When the French students were rioting a few weeks ago because
they'd have to work to 62 (!) there were a lot of people here asking why
ours weren't rioting too. Remember, their parents and grandparents did their
fair share of demos and riots in the 60s and 70s. I get the impression that
a lot of people, even some of the government who were student leaders in
their day, are rather pleased that they're showing a bit of fight.

Bob


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Re: Back in the fold

[AlunFoto]

2010/12/11 Cotty :
>
> Oh bloody hell the Vikings have arrived.

Spaam!


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Re: Back in the fold

[AlunFoto]

2010/12/11 paul stenquist :
> Good to see you back, Jostein.
>
> Was thinking about you when that cruise ship got pounded down in the Drake 
> Passage.

Thanks Paul!
I didn't know about that accident. After a quick google I found it to
be the "Clelia II". It looked hauntingly familiar. Actually, we met
this ship while sailing through the Neumayer Channel, a "fjord" close
to the British base at Port Lockroy. Here's one pic of her that I took
in the passing:

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-281

We were, I dunno, maybe 15 or 20 people standing on deck to absorb the
spectacular view. On the Clelia, there are only two people outdoors,
both of them in orange clothing, probably crew. I recall us sniggering
and shaking heads at the ship's customers for not making the most of
the moment.

The Clelia is a much bigger ship than the one we were on. :-)
Damn, I'm glad we didn't meet any freak waves...

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Re: I Wish

[Keith Whaley]

John Sessoms wrote:

[...]

Gateway2000 had the money, and were able to buy the court. Their lawyers 
shopped around until they found a judge who would grant the injunction.


Bankrupted him. Gateway used their financial muscle to buy "justice"; or 
more properly, to deny justice to my acquaintance.


Which, BTW, is why I never recommend Gateway, and won't buy anything 
from them. And since Acer now owns Gateway, screw them too!


Any human system which tries to be just is subject to freeloaders, to 
people

whose entitlement may seem unfair, and to people we just plain don't like
such as wife-beaters, but that's part of the price of trying to be a just
society. One that I personally don't mind paying provided there are
reasonable efforts to identify and deter the few freeloaders.


I'm not criticizing it. As you might infer from above, I don't think 
it's a good idea for "justice" to be for sale to the highest bidder.



I totally agree! Thanks or the true story. Good to know...

keith whaley

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Re: Back in the fold

[paul stenquist]

Good to see you back, Jostein. 

Was thinking about you when that cruise ship got pounded down in the Drake 
Passage.

Paul


On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:41 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.
> 
> So what's been up lately?
> 
> Jostein
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Re: OT - London Student Protest in pics

[paul stenquist]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: "Bob W"
> 
>>> Someone sent me this link - some very powerful pics...
>>> >
>>> > >> > ml>
>>> >
>> good stuff. Nice to see students getting worked up about something for a
>> change, even if it is a bit selfish. The police seem to have got it wrong
>> though.
>> 
> 
> One of those situations where there aren't many "good guys" on either side of 
> the line.
> 
> Good cops caught up in a bad situation. When every possible response is 
> wrong, the only thing you can do is try to find the least worst response. I 
> don't know if they were successful.
> 
> I think the government's policy regarding education costs are short sighted, 
> and will cost Britain a lot more more in the years ahead than they're ever 
> going to "save" with their cuts and tuition increases.
> 
> This applies to U.S. education policies as well.
> 
> Education should be as close to free as it's possible to make it, so that as 
> many can take advantage of it as want to.
> 
> Education is an investment in the future of the nation. Over the long term 
> everyone benefits from low cost education, whether you are paying tuition 
> yourself or have kids you're going to have to pay tuition for in the future. 
> Investing in creating an educated population has a very high Return on 
> Investment.
> 
> But it has to be an investment at the level of the society. It's not 
> something an individual, even the wealthiest individual can afford. Works the 
> other way as well. Disinvestment in education will bring very steep increases 
> in future costs.
> 
> Turning education into a profit center the way it's being done in Britain and 
> the U.S. is self defeating.

I think it's more about keeping it  a break-even situation. The European 
socialist model has pretty much failed. It's unsustainable, as most free-lunch 
plans tend to be.
Paul


> 
> The pool of educated workers will shrink and there won't be enough of them to 
> grow the economy. The cost of finding educated workers is going to go up 
> sharply, unless you bring low-wage workers trained in third world countries 
> where they understand the difference between the VALUE of education and the 
> COST of education. Those third world, low wage workers are going to bring 
> third world, low wage values along with them. They won't share the cultural 
> values of our societies.
> 
> And bringing in those low-wage workers creates another problem of how are you 
> going to deal with your own native population you've displaced from the job 
> market. You force the middle class down into the working class, and displace 
> the working class on to the dole.
> 
> It's been done before and it's always had disastrous results.
> 
> Bread and circuses will mollify the displaced worker for only so long. 
> Especially since sooner or later some "taxpayer" is going to revolt against 
> the cost of providing bread and circuses.
> 
> Meanwhile, the mob grows and grows down in the belly of the beast.
> 
> Read Gibbon; read Marx (and what Lenin & Stalin made of his writings); read 
> Mein Kampf ... the French tried it in the 18th century, and you can see where 
> that got them.
> 
> "Après Moi" anyone?
> 
> Every farmer knows you don't eat your seed. And that's exactly what our 
> current governments are proposing to do.
> 
> So there's your choice, invest in education, keeping the cost to the student 
> low, which offers very high future profit ... or don't invest in education, 
> letting the cost rise prohibitively, generating very high future costs.
> 
> OTOH, the student's behavior won't garner them much sympathy.
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RE: OT - London Student Protest in pics

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"


Someone sent me this link - some very powerful pics...
>
>  ml>
>

good stuff. Nice to see students getting worked up about something for a
change, even if it is a bit selfish. The police seem to have got it wrong
though.



One of those situations where there aren't many "good guys" on either 
side of the line.


Good cops caught up in a bad situation. When every possible response is 
wrong, the only thing you can do is try to find the least worst 
response. I don't know if they were successful.


I think the government's policy regarding education costs are short 
sighted, and will cost Britain a lot more more in the years ahead than 
they're ever going to "save" with their cuts and tuition increases.


This applies to U.S. education policies as well.

Education should be as close to free as it's possible to make it, so 
that as many can take advantage of it as want to.


Education is an investment in the future of the nation. Over the long 
term everyone benefits from low cost education, whether you are paying 
tuition yourself or have kids you're going to have to pay tuition for in 
the future. Investing in creating an educated population has a very high 
Return on Investment.


But it has to be an investment at the level of the society. It's not 
something an individual, even the wealthiest individual can afford. 
Works the other way as well. Disinvestment in education will bring very 
steep increases in future costs.


Turning education into a profit center the way it's being done in 
Britain and the U.S. is self defeating.


The pool of educated workers will shrink and there won't be enough of 
them to grow the economy. The cost of finding educated workers is going 
to go up sharply, unless you bring low-wage workers trained in third 
world countries where they understand the difference between the VALUE 
of education and the COST of education. Those third world, low wage 
workers are going to bring third world, low wage values along with them. 
They won't share the cultural values of our societies.


And bringing in those low-wage workers creates another problem of how 
are you going to deal with your own native population you've displaced 
from the job market. You force the middle class down into the working 
class, and displace the working class on to the dole.


It's been done before and it's always had disastrous results.

Bread and circuses will mollify the displaced worker for only so long. 
Especially since sooner or later some "taxpayer" is going to revolt 
against the cost of providing bread and circuses.


Meanwhile, the mob grows and grows down in the belly of the beast.

Read Gibbon; read Marx (and what Lenin & Stalin made of his writings); 
read Mein Kampf ... the French tried it in the 18th century, and you can 
see where that got them.


"Après Moi" anyone?

Every farmer knows you don't eat your seed. And that's exactly what our 
current governments are proposing to do.


So there's your choice, invest in education, keeping the cost to the 
student low, which offers very high future profit ... or don't invest in 
education, letting the cost rise prohibitively, generating very high 
future costs.


OTOH, the student's behavior won't garner them much sympathy.

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Re: PESO santacon

[Larry Colen]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Nice gallery there Larry.
> 
> I like pretty much everyone but #'s 3814, 3890 and 3908 stand out for me.

Thanks Dave.  I was getting ready to see how to fix some of them, until I got 
to the last four words of the sentence. 

Jack,
you are right, a few of the people  there were getting pretty toasty by the end 
of the evening.

Walter, 
excellent suggestion about the cropping. I also considered coming in a lot 
tighter, but decided to leave the composition pretty much as is.

The Santacon last weekend up in SF was probably 10-20 times the size of the one 
in Santa Cruz last night.  When I went to grab dinner in Chinatown last 
Saturday there were a lot of groups, the size of this one, wandering from bar 
to bar.  I should have grabbed a couple of photos, but was hungry and had 
limited time.

   Larry

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Re: Back in the fold

[Cotty]

On 11/12/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.
>
>So what's been up lately?

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Back in the fold

[AlunFoto]

Hi folks,

Finally it looks like I'll have more time on my hands for a while.

So what's been up lately?

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Re: I Wish

[Walter Gilbert]

 It's my understanding that, in the British system, unlike in the US, 
the loser of the case is responsible for the legal fees and court costs 
of the winner.  That would tend to make their system more workable, an d 
would almost certainly make them more likely to foot the bill for the 
highest-paid law firm in Detroit, knowing they wouldn't have to pay for 
the other guy's representation if they lost.


Of course, my understanding could be way off-base.  But, it seems like I 
read that somewhere.


-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 12:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "Bob W"


It's a philosophical difference, and no more "indefensible"
> > than the US system of "one law for the rich, one for the poor"
> > which allows those with deep enough pockets to buy their way
> > out of just about any situation.

>
> My understanding is the British law in this case is sort of in 
response
> to an old U.S. Supreme Court decision that EVERY defendant should 
have

> access to adequate legal counsel.
>
> The U.S. decision applied only to criminal cases, but the British
> didn't
> make that distinction when Parliament passed their law. And they
> actually put some teeth in their law.


they did make a distinction. There are different rules and entitlements
applying to criminal and civil law and different organisations 
dealing with

each branch.



What I meant is the British applied the concept that "no one should be 
denied effective legal representation just because they can't afford 
to pay a lawyer" to civil law as well as criminal cases.


They did not limit it to criminal defendants the way the U.S. Supreme 
Court decision did. In the U.S. you can still be cheated of justice in 
civil matters simply because you don't have as much money to pay 
lawyers as the other side does.


Civil litigation is expensive, and someone with enough money can screw 
you in court - burying you in lawyers, forcing you to choose between 
bankruptcy or surrender. Sometimes both.


It happened to someone I know.

He was a one man shop working on computer networks starting the early 
80s. When the internet began to open up to commercial operations, he 
registered his domain name as gateway.net.


Later a company in South Dakota chose the name Gateway2000. In the 
late 90s they realized the 2000 part of their name was getting ready 
to become obsolete, and changed their name to Gateway.


They offered my friend $1000 for the domain name he had been using for 
15 years, and when he declined to sell, they sued him for trademark 
infringement. Buried him in lawyers.


The first thing they did was seek an injunction to prohibit him from 
using his domain name until the case was settled. An injunction the 
court granted despite his showing that he had been doing business as 
Gateway, using the domain name gateway.net a decade before the 
Gateway2000 company was incorporated, and long before they decided to 
change their name to simply Gateway.


Gateway2000 had the money, and were able to buy the court. Their 
lawyers shopped around until they found a judge who would grant the 
injunction.


Bankrupted him. Gateway used their financial muscle to buy "justice"; 
or more properly, to deny justice to my acquaintance.


Which, BTW, is why I never recommend Gateway, and won't buy anything 
from them. And since Acer now owns Gateway, screw them too!


Any human system which tries to be just is subject to freeloaders, to 
people
whose entitlement may seem unfair, and to people we just plain don't 
like
such as wife-beaters, but that's part of the price of trying to be a 
just

society. One that I personally don't mind paying provided there are
reasonable efforts to identify and deter the few freeloaders.


I'm not criticizing it. As you might infer from above, I don't think 
it's a good idea for "justice" to be for sale to the highest bidder.






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Re: OT - London Student Protest in pics

[Walter Gilbert]

 I'd read about Gilmour's son -- so ironically fitting.  He's the one 
guy who least stood to gain or lose, yet he participated in the very 
activity that is most likely to cause a backlash leading to a setback 
for the movement he purports to support.  Being shielded from the 
consequences of either your success or failure has a way of emboldening 
people.  I mean, if David Gilmour had wound up being a session musician, 
you have to wonder if Charlie would have been prancing around on the 
Cenotaph like he was.


Now, every student out there will have to deal with the fallout of his 
actions.  But, for Charlie, it's really just a minor embarrassment 
resulting from a "momentary lapse of reason" and life goes on, smooth as 
silk.


-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 11:36 AM, Bob W wrote:

most of them are genuine students, but they're not the ones rioting. There's
always an element of rent-a-mob at these things. Dave Gilmour's son was
quite prominently involved, so I guess he'd be classed as a trust fund
anarchist.



B


   If it's anything like similar protests in the US, I have to wonder
how
many of those people are actually affected students as opposed to trust
fund anarchists looking for a thrill.

-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 10:20 AM, Bob W wrote:

Someone sent me this link - some very powerful pics...






good stuff. Nice to see students getting worked up about something

for a

change, even if it is a bit selfish. The police seem to have got it

wrong

though.

B




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Re: I Wish

[John Francis]

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 09:39:07AM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: John Francis
> 
> >It's a philosophical difference, and no more "indefensible"
> >than the US system of "one law for the rich, one for the poor"
> >which allows those with deep enough pockets to buy their way
> >out of just about any situation.
> 
> My understanding is the British law in this case is sort of in
> response to an old U.S. Supreme Court decision that EVERY defendant
> should have access to adequate legal counsel.
> 
> The U.S. decision applied only to criminal cases, but the British
> didn't make that distinction when Parliament passed their law. And
> they actually put some teeth in their law.

That may be one part of it.  Another part is that the British setup
will generally handle something like a custody hearing in a lower
court, so the costs are a lot more reasonable.

I don't think anybody is suggesting that Paul didn't get a raw deal
from the way the system worked in his particular case. But this was
an outlier case, complicated by the fact that a minor child appears
to have been removed from the jurisdiction of the appropriate court
without the proper formalities.  This in itself could be enough to
guarantee legal support for a British citizen claiming parental
rights, not to mention the fact that the cornerstone of many legal
systems, the presumption of innocence, is only worth anything if
it is applied to all without pre-judging how deserving they are.

It's easy to support a principle if you agree with the beneficiary.
The true test is if you can support someone you personally dislike.
As Voltaire probably didn't actually state: "I disagree with what
you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it".



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RE: I Wish

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"


It's a philosophical difference, and no more "indefensible"
> > than the US system of "one law for the rich, one for the poor"
> > which allows those with deep enough pockets to buy their way
> > out of just about any situation.

>
> My understanding is the British law in this case is sort of in response
> to an old U.S. Supreme Court decision that EVERY defendant should have
> access to adequate legal counsel.
>
> The U.S. decision applied only to criminal cases, but the British
> didn't
> make that distinction when Parliament passed their law. And they
> actually put some teeth in their law.


they did make a distinction. There are different rules and entitlements
applying to criminal and civil law and different organisations dealing with
each branch.



What I meant is the British applied the concept that "no one should be 
denied effective legal representation just because they can't afford to 
pay a lawyer" to civil law as well as criminal cases.


They did not limit it to criminal defendants the way the U.S. Supreme 
Court decision did. In the U.S. you can still be cheated of justice in 
civil matters simply because you don't have as much money to pay lawyers 
as the other side does.


Civil litigation is expensive, and someone with enough money can screw 
you in court - burying you in lawyers, forcing you to choose between 
bankruptcy or surrender. Sometimes both.


It happened to someone I know.

He was a one man shop working on computer networks starting the early 
80s. When the internet began to open up to commercial operations, he 
registered his domain name as gateway.net.


Later a company in South Dakota chose the name Gateway2000. In the late 
90s they realized the 2000 part of their name was getting ready to 
become obsolete, and changed their name to Gateway.


They offered my friend $1000 for the domain name he had been using for 
15 years, and when he declined to sell, they sued him for trademark 
infringement. Buried him in lawyers.


The first thing they did was seek an injunction to prohibit him from 
using his domain name until the case was settled. An injunction the 
court granted despite his showing that he had been doing business as 
Gateway, using the domain name gateway.net a decade before the 
Gateway2000 company was incorporated, and long before they decided to 
change their name to simply Gateway.


Gateway2000 had the money, and were able to buy the court. Their lawyers 
shopped around until they found a judge who would grant the injunction.


Bankrupted him. Gateway used their financial muscle to buy "justice"; or 
more properly, to deny justice to my acquaintance.


Which, BTW, is why I never recommend Gateway, and won't buy anything 
from them. And since Acer now owns Gateway, screw them too!



Any human system which tries to be just is subject to freeloaders, to people
whose entitlement may seem unfair, and to people we just plain don't like
such as wife-beaters, but that's part of the price of trying to be a just
society. One that I personally don't mind paying provided there are
reasonable efforts to identify and deter the few freeloaders.


I'm not criticizing it. As you might infer from above, I don't think 
it's a good idea for "justice" to be for sale to the highest bidder.



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Re: PESO raccoon

[Jeffery Smith]

I think it would work for all small varmints. Opossums, squirrels, raccoons. 
Rats would probably just burrow into an area without light.

On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:26 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Jeffery Smith
> 
>> An interesting way to keep them out of the attic is a strobe light.
>> They can hack just about any annoyance except that one. Not terribly
>> practical, though.
>> 
>> Jeffery
> 
> Would that work for squirrels too?
> 
> I did burglar alarms for 15 years, and I could rig a cheap strobe to a timer 
> ~ 3 min or so and use an IR motion detector to trigger it and the whole thing 
> can be powered by a 12v gel cell power pack (constant trickle charge with AC 
> from a wall wart).
> 
> It wouldn't take 5 minutes to build it and less than an hour to install it.
> 
> The only challenge I see is finding an older version motion detector that 
> doesn't have circuitry to keep pets from setting it off. If pets won't set it 
> off, squirrels wouldn't set it off.
> 
> I'll have to dig around some at home. I may even have one still left over 
> from my BA days.
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RE: OT - London Student Protest in pics

[Bob W]

most of them are genuine students, but they're not the ones rioting. There's
always an element of rent-a-mob at these things. Dave Gilmour's son was
quite prominently involved, so I guess he'd be classed as a trust fund
anarchist.



B

> 
>   If it's anything like similar protests in the US, I have to wonder
> how
> many of those people are actually affected students as opposed to trust
> fund anarchists looking for a thrill.
> 
> -- Walt
> 
> On 12/11/2010 10:20 AM, Bob W wrote:
> >> Someone sent me this link - some very powerful pics...
> >>
> >>
>  >> ml>
> >>
> > good stuff. Nice to see students getting worked up about something
> for a
> > change, even if it is a bit selfish. The police seem to have got it
> wrong
> > though.
> >
> > B
> >
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Re: OT - London Student Protest in pics

[Walter Gilbert]

 If it's anything like similar protests in the US, I have to wonder how 
many of those people are actually affected students as opposed to trust 
fund anarchists looking for a thrill.


-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 10:20 AM, Bob W wrote:

Someone sent me this link - some very powerful pics...




good stuff. Nice to see students getting worked up about something for a
change, even if it is a bit selfish. The police seem to have got it wrong
though.

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Re: PESO raccoon

[John Sessoms]

From: Jeffery Smith


An interesting way to keep them out of the attic is a strobe light.
They can hack just about any annoyance except that one. Not terribly
practical, though.

Jeffery


Would that work for squirrels too?

I did burglar alarms for 15 years, and I could rig a cheap strobe to a 
timer ~ 3 min or so and use an IR motion detector to trigger it and the 
whole thing can be powered by a 12v gel cell power pack (constant 
trickle charge with AC from a wall wart).


It wouldn't take 5 minutes to build it and less than an hour to install it.

The only challenge I see is finding an older version motion detector 
that doesn't have circuitry to keep pets from setting it off. If pets 
won't set it off, squirrels wouldn't set it off.


I'll have to dig around some at home. I may even have one still left 
over from my BA days.


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Re: PESO santacon

[Walter Gilbert]

 It's events like these that make me wish I lived closer to a 
metropolitan area.   Of course, there are other events that make me glad 
I don't, but I digress.


I enjoyed the whole series, but something about 3984 
 stands out to 
me.  Seems like a slightly tighter crop, eliminating the drapes (?) on 
the right-hand side would make it even better.


Nice work all the way around, though.

-- Walt

On 12/11/2010 4:17 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Santacon is approximately a bunch of people dressing up like Santa and going on 
a pubcrawl. There was one in Santa Cruz tonight, which I went on.  I think that 
this is my favorite photo of the evening. I've got no idea what I was trying to 
shoot at the time, but I'm pretty sure this wasn't it.  I did spend a lot of 
time shooting from the hip, so people wouldn't freeze up when they saw the 
camera pointing at them.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5251195076/in/set-72157625448696367/

If you want to see the whole set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625448696367/

For the terminally curious, wikipedia has this to say about SantaCon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SantaCon

google has even more to say about it.

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Re: OT: Digital ice - a question

[Nick David Wright]

That was a 35mm neg.

I haven't done a lot of playing with it, but I wasn't terribly happy
with the unsharp mask function of the Epson scan so I just turned it
off.

Glad you like it so far!

~nick

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Nick David Wright wrote:
>
>> Hi Ann,
>>
>> I got to thinking. The "wrecked car" photo you like. That neg has been
>> severely mistreated in its 10+ years in my shoebox. It is full of dust
>> and scratches. With ICE turned on I didn't have to do a single bit of
>> spotting.
>>
> ooh was that a 35 mm neg?
>
>> Did you get the scanner yet? Do you like it?
>>
>> ~Nick
>>
> I love it   but I only did two things so far.
>
> I expect to have examples up sometime over the weekend or later --
>
> I owed a friend a scan of a 4 x 6 print from 2001...  and I did one
> experiment with a slide that
> I had had professionally scanned a number of years ago and I like the result
> of mine better...
>
> One frustrating moment was that my old scanner's on/off button was right in
> front  where
> the V500's "start" button is...  and it didnt go.  I checked the connections
> etc... finally picked up
> the quick start sheet again .  duh!  never saw the side switch.
>
> I didn't use digital ice or any of the other buttons except the UNSHARP
> mask, but I was working with
> a good well exposed slide.  Didn't use auto mode.
>
> More when I do more.
> ann
>
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So... sic transit 1640... I"m geting the V500... it says it comes with
>>> Digital Ice...
>>>
>>> I think I remember a cautionary note about using it...  from some one
>>> here
>>> (or from my stock agency)
>>>
>>> any rants or raves guys?
>>>
>>> Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112  -- and that some of you
>>> (along
>>> with others) bought my calendars...!
>>>
>>> T I A for any comments
>>>
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Re: OT: Digital ice - a question

[Ann Sanfedele]

Nick David Wright wrote:


Hi Ann,

I got to thinking. The "wrecked car" photo you like. That neg has been
severely mistreated in its 10+ years in my shoebox. It is full of dust
and scratches. With ICE turned on I didn't have to do a single bit of
spotting.


ooh was that a 35 mm neg?


Did you get the scanner yet? Do you like it?

~Nick


I love it   but I only did two things so far.

I expect to have examples up sometime over the weekend or later --

I owed a friend a scan of a 4 x 6 print from 2001...  and I did one 
experiment with a slide that
I had had professionally scanned a number of years ago and I like the 
result of mine better...


One frustrating moment was that my old scanner's on/off button was right 
in front  where
the V500's "start" button is...  and it didnt go.  I checked the 
connections etc... finally picked up

the quick start sheet again .  duh!  never saw the side switch.

I didn't use digital ice or any of the other buttons except the UNSHARP 
mask, but I was working with

a good well exposed slide.  Didn't use auto mode.

More when I do more.  


ann





On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
 


So... sic transit 1640... I"m geting the V500... it says it comes with
Digital Ice...

I think I remember a cautionary note about using it...  from some one here
(or from my stock agency)

any rants or raves guys?

Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112  -- and that some of you (along
with others) bought my calendars...!

T I A for any comments

ann
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OT: The time has come

[John Sessoms]

... almost.

I'll be headed out soon, getting down to Raleigh so I'll be in place for 
my flight tomorrow morning. I'll be shutting down my computer just 
before I leave here.


I decided not to take a laptop with me. I can scrounge time on some of 
my fellow travelers' laptops to transfer images from my camera cards to 
my portable hard drive. Don't know if I'll need to, I've got a bunch of 
cards - 8 x 8GB, 8 x 4GB, and 8 x 2GB.


I'm almost packed. I've double & triple checked everything.

All I still have to do is stuff clean socks into various bags & pockets. 
And I have to pick up my shower shoes from the house in Raleigh. Got a 
to do list I've been checking items off to make sure I don't forget 
anything, and "get shower shoes from home" is all that's left on it.


I'm down to the point that all I have left to do is tidy up my apartment 
a little bit and put my bags in my car.


Should be back on list in about eleven days, although I'll still be 
looking at anything that comes through in the next few hours.


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Re: PESO - The Coffee Shop Portraits

[P N Stenquist]

On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:12 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, P N Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> Coffee Shop Portraits:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072552&size=lg
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072551&size=lg
>> 
>> Both with K-5 and DA* 50-135, ISO 2000, f4.
>> 
>> Shot the tiger fan with live view after he had caught me twice with the 
>> camera raised.
> 
> The white thing in the foreground, bottom left hand side is a bit of a
> bother, but hey, it was there and can't really be cropped out.

Thanks Frank. Yes, I wasn't too pleased with that chair back in the frame. But 
I've included out of focus foreground objects in other pics of this series, and 
I'm not sure that they aren't a plus when taken collectively. They demonstrate 
that the perspective is limited to the view from one chair in the shop. But 
perhaps I'm just rationalizing a shortcoming:-).
Paul
> 
> Other than that, both are fine photos of coffee shop life.  Well done!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: Two more PESOs from Boris

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html
>
> Be brutal and honest.

Like 'em both, but especially the gelato case.  But maybe I'm just a
sucker for gelato (which I no longer eat).  The colours and light make
it a wonderful shot.

cheers,
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Re: Happy Birthday, Annsan

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
> (Clears throat.)
>
> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Ann, happy 
> birthday to you.

Many happy returns, Ann!!

cheers,
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RE: OT - London Student Protest in pics

[Bob W]

> 
> Someone sent me this link - some very powerful pics...
> 
>  ml>
> 

good stuff. Nice to see students getting worked up about something for a
change, even if it is a bit selfish. The police seem to have got it wrong
though.

B


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RE: I Wish

[Bob W]

> > It's a philosophical difference, and no more "indefensible"
> > than the US system of "one law for the rich, one for the poor"
> > which allows those with deep enough pockets to buy their way
> > out of just about any situation.
> 
> My understanding is the British law in this case is sort of in response
> to an old U.S. Supreme Court decision that EVERY defendant should have
> access to adequate legal counsel.
> 
> The U.S. decision applied only to criminal cases, but the British
> didn't
> make that distinction when Parliament passed their law. And they
> actually put some teeth in their law.

they did make a distinction. There are different rules and entitlements
applying to criminal and civil law and different organisations dealing with
each branch.


Any human system which tries to be just is subject to freeloaders, to people
whose entitlement may seem unfair, and to people we just plain don't like
such as wife-beaters, but that's part of the price of trying to be a just
society. One that I personally don't mind paying provided there are
reasonable efforts to identify and deter the few freeloaders.

In addition to that, the rates paid to lawyers working under the scheme are
fixed by parliament, so it doesn't matter how much the law firm may charge
for private work. For legal aid work they get the same rate as everyone
else. Having said that, plenty of lawyers have become millionaires from
legal aid work, so they're not paying peanuts.

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PESO 2010 - 221 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

A new photo blog post available for your viewing: 

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/wall-and-tension

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Re: PESO -- Trees and Stars

[David J Brooks]

Good shot, but a lot of dust spots.

Seriously it looks good as a B&W

Dave

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:02 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is a high concept of I;m just high on fatigue.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20treesandstars.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8 w/Slik U8000 tripod.
>
> Notes: The camera emphasizes colors I didn't see hence the conversion to
> B&W, (with green filter applied), to attempt to render the scene as I
> experienced it.  I think I failed. Resizing the image to web to web size
> didn't help it either.
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: PESO raccoon

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On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
> An interesting way to keep them out of the attic is a strobe light. They can 
> hack just about any annoyance except that one. Not terribly practical, though.
>
> Jeffery

I was a teenager in the 60's, the stobe is no problem.:-0

Dave
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:39 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
>
>> From: David J Brooks
>>
>>> We have raccoons and skunks in our are and at times under my shed and
>>> in my detached garage.
>>>
>>> I hate them. I worry about the rabies a lot. They and the skunks tear
>>> up my yard, nest in neighbours chimney's tear up my compost bin the
>>> region uses to collect wet waste and create general havoc.
>>
>> I don't know if it will work for raccoons, but for skunks, you can lay down 
>> a perimeter of mothballs around your shed & garage and they won't cross the 
>> line. We used to have a LOT of skunks around the training sites at Ft. AP 
>> Hill, and they'd get into the tents. Post animal control recommended the 
>> mothballs solution.
>>
>> You'll have to keep an eye on the mothballs to make sure pets & children 
>> don't get hold of them.
>>
>> I'd talk to your county animal control agency about them as well.
>>
>> I know there are baits available with an oral rabies vaccine. You might be 
>> able to spread some of those baits around your property where skunks & 
>> raccoons could eat it.
>>
>> Again, you'd need to keep an eye on the bait so pets and kids won't get hold 
>> of it.
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Re: LR and # of computers question

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On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:22 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:


> They told me that somewhere during the installation it would prompt for the
> original CS2 CD to confirm the upgrade. Alternatively, if you were upgrading
> from a downloaded version where you didn't have an original CD, you could
> enter the prior version's serial number.

My LR 1 was downloaded but my LR 2 upgrade is a disk. I have the LR1 S/N.

>
> I interpret that to mean you still only have each of the programs installed
> on two computers. You have LR2.7 on the old PC & iBook and LR3 will be on
> the *new* PC & iBook.

Close. LR2.7 is on the PC and iBook. LR3.x will be on the new computer
only. Seriously looking at trhe iMac 21.5"

I;ll continue to use the laptop for road trip downloads etc so LR2.7
will do if i need to do anything on the fly.
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Re: PESO - The Coffee Shop Portraits

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
> Coffee Shop Portraits:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072552&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072551&size=lg
>
> Both with K-5 and DA* 50-135, ISO 2000, f4.
>
> Shot the tiger fan with live view after he had caught me twice with the 
> camera raised.

The white thing in the foreground, bottom left hand side is a bit of a
bother, but hey, it was there and can't really be cropped out.

Other than that, both are fine photos of coffee shop life.  Well done!

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Re: PESO raccoon

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An interesting way to keep them out of the attic is a strobe light. They can 
hack just about any annoyance except that one. Not terribly practical, though.

Jeffery


On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:39 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: David J Brooks
> 
>> We have raccoons and skunks in our are and at times under my shed and
>> in my detached garage.
>> 
>> I hate them. I worry about the rabies a lot. They and the skunks tear
>> up my yard, nest in neighbours chimney's tear up my compost bin the
>> region uses to collect wet waste and create general havoc.
> 
> I don't know if it will work for raccoons, but for skunks, you can lay down a 
> perimeter of mothballs around your shed & garage and they won't cross the 
> line. We used to have a LOT of skunks around the training sites at Ft. AP 
> Hill, and they'd get into the tents. Post animal control recommended the 
> mothballs solution.
> 
> You'll have to keep an eye on the mothballs to make sure pets & children 
> don't get hold of them.
> 
> I'd talk to your county animal control agency about them as well.
> 
> I know there are baits available with an oral rabies vaccine. You might be 
> able to spread some of those baits around your property where skunks & 
> raccoons could eat it.
> 
> Again, you'd need to keep an eye on the bait so pets and kids won't get hold 
> of it.
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Re: PESO raccoon

[David J Brooks]

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:39 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:

>
> I don't know if it will work for raccoons, but for skunks, you can lay down
> a perimeter of mothballs around your shed & garage and they won't cross the
> line. We used to have a LOT of skunks around the training sites at Ft. AP
> Hill, and they'd get into the tents. Post animal control recommended the
> mothballs solution.

Yes i tried that. I think they just ate them.

>
> I'd talk to your county animal control agency about them as well.

They only deal in stray dogs and cats and road kill. If its alive i
have to go to a private company, at least this is the case in the
Township i live in.
>
> I know there are baits available with an oral rabies vaccine. You might be
> able to spread some of those baits around your property where skunks &
> raccoons could eat it.

I'll speak to our Vet about that.

Dave
>
> Again, you'd need to keep an eye on the bait so pets and kids won't get hold
> of it.
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Re: PESO raccoon

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> It's more fun to photograph the happy moments, but sometimes I think it's the 
> sad moments that make the more powerful photos.  I found this poor little 
> fellow lying dead on my back stairs. I don't know what happened, but he's 
> right below the hole that the raccoons have been using to get into my attic, 
> I suspect that he may have fallen climbing in or out.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249450643/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249453755/

The second shot is especially moving.

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Re: PESO -- Trees and Stars

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:02 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is a high concept of I;m just high on fatigue.

Terrific!

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Re: PESO raccoon

[John Sessoms]

From: David J Brooks


We have raccoons and skunks in our are and at times under my shed and
in my detached garage.

I hate them. I worry about the rabies a lot. They and the skunks tear
up my yard, nest in neighbours chimney's tear up my compost bin the
region uses to collect wet waste and create general havoc.


I don't know if it will work for raccoons, but for skunks, you can lay 
down a perimeter of mothballs around your shed & garage and they won't 
cross the line. We used to have a LOT of skunks around the training 
sites at Ft. AP Hill, and they'd get into the tents. Post animal control 
recommended the mothballs solution.


You'll have to keep an eye on the mothballs to make sure pets & children 
don't get hold of them.


I'd talk to your county animal control agency about them as well.

I know there are baits available with an oral rabies vaccine. You might 
be able to spread some of those baits around your property where skunks 
& raccoons could eat it.


Again, you'd need to keep an eye on the bait so pets and kids won't get 
hold of it.


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RE: LR and # of computers question

[John Sessoms]

From: David J Brooks


I currently have LR2.7 on both my PC(dyeing) and my iBook.

If and when i upgrade the PC to what ever, and install LR3, will it be
ok with the three computers or will Adobe see i have installed it on
the third computer and halt my installation.??



Based on my experience with Photoshop upgrades while upgrading 
computers, probably not.


When I upgraded CS2 to CS3, I was setting up a new laptop. I called 
Adobe and asked if I had to install the upgrade on the same computer as 
the original installation, and their tech support told me I could 
install the upgrade on a new computer.


They told me that somewhere during the installation it would prompt for 
the original CS2 CD to confirm the upgrade. Alternatively, if you were 
upgrading from a downloaded version where you didn't have an original 
CD, you could enter the prior version's serial number.


I interpret that to mean you still only have each of the programs 
installed on two computers. You have LR2.7 on the old PC & iBook and LR3 
will be on the *new* PC & iBook.


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Re: OT: Digital ice - a question

[Nick David Wright]

Hi Ann,

I got to thinking. The "wrecked car" photo you like. That neg has been
severely mistreated in its 10+ years in my shoebox. It is full of dust
and scratches. With ICE turned on I didn't have to do a single bit of
spotting.

Did you get the scanner yet? Do you like it?

~Nick

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
> So... sic transit 1640... I"m geting the V500... it says it comes with
> Digital Ice...
>
> I think I remember a cautionary note about using it...  from some one here
> (or from my stock agency)
>
> any rants or raves guys?
>
> Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112  -- and that some of you (along
> with others) bought my calendars...!
>
> T I A for any comments
>
> ann
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Re: PESO raccoon

[Jeffery Smith]

Last week, an otter was kicking some serious ass somewhere. They suspected 
rabies but I never heard the results. They can tell pretty quickly by doing a 
exam of the brain.

Jeffery


On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:30 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> We have raccoons and skunks in our are and at times under my shed and
> in my detached garage.
> 
> I hate them. I worry about the rabies a lot. They and the skunks tear
> up my yard, nest in neighbours chimney's tear up my compost bin the
> region uses to collect wet waste and create general havoc.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> It's more fun to photograph the happy moments, but sometimes I think it's 
>> the sad moments that make the more powerful photos.  I found this poor 
>> little fellow lying dead on my back stairs. I don't know what happened, but 
>> he's right below the hole that the raccoons have been using to get into my 
>> attic, I suspect that he may have fallen climbing in or out.
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249450643/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249453755/
>> 
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>> 
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Re: PESO raccoon

[Jeffery Smith]

At first, the campus police thought it was vandalism. No animal could wreak 
such havoc. 

Jeffery


On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:47 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: David Mann
> 
>>> But you have to admire the degree to which they can completely
>>> destroy a room. When one fell though the ceiling into the Xerox
>>> copy center, he managed to pull just about everything off of every
>>> shelf before taking a huge crap in the middle of the manager's
>>> desk.
>> Wow.  Every office worker's greatest fantasy.
>> 
> 
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Re: LR and # of computers question

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

By the terms of the EULA, you are legally constrained to be running
only two installations simultaneously. So far, Adobe has not
implemented the "activation" schema they use with Photoshop CSx and
other Creative Suite products for Lightroom, so you are able to
install it and be able to use it on as many systems as you want
without having to do the activation dance.


On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:26 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> I currently have LR2.7 on both my PC(dyeing) and my iBook.
>
> If and when i upgrade the PC to what ever, and install LR3, will it be
> ok with the three computers or will Adobe see i have installed it on
> the third computer and halt my installation.??
>
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Re: PESO raccoon

[John Sessoms]

From: David Mann


But you have to admire the degree to which they can completely
destroy a room. When one fell though the ceiling into the Xerox
copy center, he managed to pull just about everything off of every
shelf before taking a huge crap in the middle of the manager's
desk.

Wow.  Every office worker's greatest fantasy.



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Re: PESO santacon

[David J Brooks]

Nice gallery there Larry.

I like pretty much everyone but #'s 3814, 3890 and 3908 stand out for me.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Santacon is approximately a bunch of people dressing up like Santa and going 
> on a pubcrawl. There was one in Santa Cruz tonight, which I went on.  I think 
> that this is my favorite photo of the evening. I've got no idea what I was 
> trying to shoot at the time, but I'm pretty sure this wasn't it.  I did spend 
> a lot of time shooting from the hip, so people wouldn't freeze up when they 
> saw the camera pointing at them.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5251195076/in/set-72157625448696367/
>
> If you want to see the whole set:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625448696367/
>
> For the terminally curious, wikipedia has this to say about SantaCon:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SantaCon
>
> google has even more to say about it.
>
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Re: I Wish

[John Sessoms]

From: John Francis


It's a philosophical difference, and no more "indefensible"
than the US system of "one law for the rich, one for the poor"
which allows those with deep enough pockets to buy their way
out of just about any situation.


My understanding is the British law in this case is sort of in response 
to an old U.S. Supreme Court decision that EVERY defendant should have 
access to adequate legal counsel.


The U.S. decision applied only to criminal cases, but the British didn't 
make that distinction when Parliament passed their law. And they 
actually put some teeth in their law.


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Re: PESO - The Coffee Shop Portraits

[David J Brooks]

Both are very well done. Very intense thoughts.

Dave

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
> Coffee Shop Portraits:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072552&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072551&size=lg
>
> Both with K-5 and DA* 50-135, ISO 2000, f4.
>
> Shot the tiger fan with live view after he had caught me twice with the 
> camera raised.
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Re: I Wish

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> I feel your pain.  Some time before the end of the year we're supposed to be
> getting new windows.  That's *four* K-5s that could have been under the
> tree. :-(
>
> -p

I had my heating and air guy in on Thursday to clean the gas furnace.
His assessment was its just about ready to fail, cracks are eminent.
He is going to try and do the work next week, depending on avalability.

That will cost about a D3.

Dave

>
> On 12/10/2010 1:51 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Good gawd, man! How much more evidence of pure studliness do you need? The
>> K-5 is near-perfect and everyone should have one. Put the reviews down and
>> get out your wallet.
>>
>> The only reason there won't be one under my Xmas tree this year is that
>> "we" are getting a new floor for the house. I could have bought a 645D for
>> what that's setting us back.
>>
>> -bmw
>>
>>
>> On 10-12-10 12:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Not in the K20 manual.;) I hope to be reading the K-5 manual in not too
>>> long.
>>> Awaiting a couple more reviews and additional feed back from the PDML.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 12/10/10, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>>>
 From: Steven Desjardins
 Subject: Re: I Wish
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 Isn't there a custom setting for
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Re: PESO raccoon

[David J Brooks]

We have raccoons and skunks in our are and at times under my shed and
in my detached garage.

I hate them. I worry about the rabies a lot. They and the skunks tear
up my yard, nest in neighbours chimney's tear up my compost bin the
region uses to collect wet waste and create general havoc.

Dave



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> It's more fun to photograph the happy moments, but sometimes I think it's the 
> sad moments that make the more powerful photos.  I found this poor little 
> fellow lying dead on my back stairs. I don't know what happened, but he's 
> right below the hole that the raccoons have been using to get into my attic, 
> I suspect that he may have fallen climbing in or out.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249450643/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249453755/
>
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LR and # of computers question

[David J Brooks]

I currently have LR2.7 on both my PC(dyeing) and my iBook.

If and when i upgrade the PC to what ever, and install LR3, will it be
ok with the three computers or will Adobe see i have installed it on
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Re: Which is the preferred battery charger

[paul stenquist]

I misspoke: the Nuon batteries are 2500 mah. Best I've ever had and far better 
than Eneloops in continuous use. But the LaCrosse charger will make any battery 
better.
Paul


On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:52 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

> I'm still using that LaCrosse charger every day. It charges each cell 
> individually and can discharge and recondition them as well. When the cells 
> are fully charged, it automatically goes to a very light trickle charge. I 
> leave my NIMH batteries in the charger when not in use, and they're always 
> ready to go. I've gotten great results using some very inexpensive "Nuon" 
> 2300 mah batteries that I bought for a couple bucks apiece at Battery 
> Central. I use them in my flashes, so fast recycling and lots of flashes per 
> day are paramount. Shelf life of charged batteries is irrelevant for me.
> 
> Paul
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote:
> 
>> On 11 December 2010 11:03, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> The charger that seems to work best with my AA hybrids is starting to get a 
>>> bit flaky.  There was a discussion a couple weeks back on the subject of 
>>> chargers and I thought i saved it, but can't find it.
>>> What is the battery charger that is so highly recommended?
>> 
>> I think it was the LaCrosse BC-900.
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg372271.html
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