My first in-depth review of a lens published

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Though PentaxForums does not seem to be in big favor here, I did 
participate in the recent round of user in-depth reviews over there. So 
here it is: my first published review:


http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax_fa_20mm_review.php

There are few misprints that I hope will be hammered out by the forum team.

Have your say. Brutal and honest is good.

Boris

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Re: My first in-depth review of a lens published

[AlunFoto]

Since you point out its convenience for film, perhaps you should have
included some words on performance in the gelatine world? The
"aberrations" rating would probably look quite different because of
the lens' droplet distortion towards the corners, for example. Sample
variation was also a big issue with this lens, IIRC. Especially with
regards to centering.

When I look at some of my shots, from the days of the *istD, I see
purple-green aberrations increasing towards the corners. Mine was not
perfectly centered, so it's more noticeable on the left side of the
images.

Jostein

2011/2/16 Boris Liberman :
> Hi!
>
> Though PentaxForums does not seem to be in big favor here, I did participate
> in the recent round of user in-depth reviews over there. So here it is: my
> first published review:
>
> http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax_fa_20mm_review.php
>
> There are few misprints that I hope will be hammered out by the forum team.
>
> Have your say. Brutal and honest is good.
>
> Boris
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Re: First some chatter. And then, how do I photograph a birth?

[AlunFoto]

2011/2/16 Tim Øsleby :
> There is a weak connection. The calender project may evolve into a
> spin of project. A collective photo book about the big things in life;
> birth and death, and between. The idea is to reflect about how
> precious and fragile life is.

My first thought was "wow, that requires a very delicate approach."

I think of birth as being firmly on the "precious" side of life's
moments, but it's a tough moment. It involves more drama and pain than
do many ways of passing away, for example. And there are at least two
individuals intimately involved, sharing the toughness.

I think I would have emphasised "precious" over "fragile" for that
situation. Not because I'm afraid of showing the toughness of the
situation, but rather because birth ties associations to "hope", "new
start", "infinite potential" and "bright future". It's something about
the way my brain wants to weave a story, I suppose.

Jostein


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Was Wire Welder, Now Gelatin Silver look on Inkjet

[Paul Stenquist]

Epson Exhibition Fiber paper has the look of a gelatin silver fiber-based paper 
with slight texture and mild lustre. Some other inkjet papers are very close 
copies of darkroom papers as well. Of course all modern BW darkroom printing 
paper is gelatin silver. That's the chemistry not the paper look. 

I think Christine is right that the "depth" one feels in looking at a print 
from a large format neg is partly due to the format. Large format provides 
incredible detail in the focal range but minimal depth of field, even with 
relatively wide lenses. That translates to perceived depth.
Paul

On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:48 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> I wish I could help, Bruce, but I don't know enough about the variety of 
> inkjet papers to know which comes closes to gelatin silver prints.  Nor do I 
> know a lot about gelatin silver prints. Maybe one day the Karsh exhibit will 
> come to Chicago, and I'll be able to see what you're talking about.  I wonder 
> if the "depth" you mention has more to do with using a large format camera 
> than the paper and chemical printing process.  Just thinking out loud here.  
> Would love to see the Karsh exhibit you reference here.  Thanks for posting.  
> Really enjoyed seeing the work.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder
> 
> 
>> I'm at a serious disadvantage trying to discuss photo paper as I pretty much 
>> bypassed all the chemical stuff. (After dabbling with B&W developing, I quit 
>> shooting in the early 1980's and publicly stated that I wouldn't try 
>> photography again until they invented digital cameras and LCD displays.)
>> 
>> But I've recently seen some outstanding industrial work, large format shots 
>> taken in operating steel works and auto assembly lines, printed at sizes 
>> around 2 by 3 feet. These were in an exhibition of commercial work by Karsh 
>> that's currently touring.
>> 
>> http://www.karsh.org/#/the_work/on_assignment/atlas_steel/
>> http://www.karsh.org/#/the_work/on_assignment/ford_canada/
>> 
>> Of course you can't tell from the screen, but these gelatin silver prints 
>> have a quietly impressive depth and lustre. I'd love to be able to print on 
>> some paper that even came half-way to matching the look he got from this 
>> stuff.  Can ink-jet approximate this, or is it only possible with trad 
>> photo-paper?
>> 
>> I guess that at this point the analog film buffs are rolling their eyes and 
>> would say, "*this* is why we still shoot film".
>> 
>> -bmw
>> 
>> 
>> On 11-02-15 7:08 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>> Love the bw square crop.  I'd actually vote for a nicely textured mat print 
>>> for this picture.  But glossy would probably be nice, but it would have to 
>>> be some high end glossy--something like the Epson Exhibition Fiber paper. 
>>> To my eye, sometimes basic glossy  paper looks kind of cheap.  Nice job, 
>>> Darren.  Cheers, Christine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" 
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: PESO: The Wire Welder
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11-02-15 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
> Thanks for the additional comments.
> By popular demand:
> : )
> 
> Cropped square in B&W: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448318025/
> 
> Cropped square in color: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5448927542/
 
 Both excellent, Darren. I think the b&w serves this subject better. Wants 
 to be printed really glossy too.
 
 -bmw
 
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Re: Peso's Annual Snow golf day

[Boris Liberman]

Gosh, you really do play golf on snow, Dave... Gee, and doubtlessly you 
had fun!


On 2/13/2011 1:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Hi all.
Had the annual snow golf tournament Saturday. Windy, partially sunny
and a cold damp wind. What better golf conditions than that, eh.:-)

Here are five first impression shots. I'll post a jalbum gallery
later, for those that want to see the fun.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654333
Fairway shot I

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654352
Tee shot

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654353
Lynn holing out.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654354
Fairway shot II

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654373
Memorial

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654392
The group shot.

Nikon D200, 18-70 lens, LR3 processing of the NEF files.

Comments more than welcome

Dave




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Re: Photograph aspect ratios

[Steven Desjardins]

I never make prints, so I tend to crop as I like in PS.  Actually, I
make one print a year for the ASPCA charity art sale and it's square.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> On 2/16/2011 5:15 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> The art of presenting photographs is at least as complex and deep as
>> the art of making photographs.
>
> H(M)AR(K)! /wink/
>
> Nowadigitaldays it begins with suggesting to a photog to make A3 size prints
> of their shots and then all the fun observing their reaction once they saw
> the prints /grin/.
>
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Attn Doug Franklin

[Boris Liberman]

Doug,

If you remember, you and I are having a little conversation off list. It 
is your turn now, as far as I can tell /wink/.


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Re: PESO: The Wire Welder

[John Sessoms]

From: Darren Addy

That's one hell of an eye you've got there John!
http://www.dpnebraska.com/images/thinblacks.png
;)


Pull the left input level up to about 5 ought to do the trick. I hold 
down the alt key and pull the slider to the right until it starts to 
show it blocking up.



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Re: My first in-depth review of a lens published

[Steven Desjardins]

Actually, I use some of the features like the lens reviews.  I'm just
to lazy (and too easily annoyed) to sift through the posts for useful
information.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Though PentaxForums does not seem to be in big favor here, I did participate
> in the recent round of user in-depth reviews over there. So here it is: my
> first published review:
>
> http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax_fa_20mm_review.php
>
> There are few misprints that I hope will be hammered out by the forum team.
>
> Have your say. Brutal and honest is good.
>
> Boris
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Re: First some chatter. And then, how do I photograph a birth?

[Bob Sullivan]

Charles,
Nice job there.  That's a good example of no embarrassing angles and
not much icky stuff (*technical term).
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Feb 15, 2011, at 20:06, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>> Birth is a pretty joyous event for most couples, but...
>> It's also rather graphic and bloody.
>
> It's possible to shoot one without a lot of gore (or embarrassing angles on 
> the mom).
>
> I photographed the birth of my grandson back in 2009 and almost all of the 
> shots were acceptable for public display:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2009/evan_birth/
>
> Mostly, you'll want to know the mom in some way.  I can't imagine letting 
> "some stranger" hang around in the room for such an intimate event.  And if 
> she's delivering at HOME you're that much better off.  Hospital births can be 
> so clinical and not-fun.
>
>  -Charles
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Re: First some chatter. And then, how do I photograph a birth?

[Tim Øsleby]

Ditto this. A very nice gallery.

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2011/2/16 Bob Sullivan :
> Charles,
> Nice job there.  That's a good example of no embarrassing angles and
> not much icky stuff (*technical term).
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 20:06, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>> Birth is a pretty joyous event for most couples, but...
>>> It's also rather graphic and bloody.
>>
>> It's possible to shoot one without a lot of gore (or embarrassing angles on 
>> the mom).
>>
>> I photographed the birth of my grandson back in 2009 and almost all of the 
>> shots were acceptable for public display:
>>
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2009/evan_birth/
>>
>> Mostly, you'll want to know the mom in some way.  I can't imagine letting 
>> "some stranger" hang around in the room for such an intimate event.  And if 
>> she's delivering at HOME you're that much better off.  Hospital births can 
>> be so clinical and not-fun.
>>
>>  -Charles
>>
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Re: First some chatter. And then, how do I photograph a birth?

[Paul Stenquist]

I agree. Well done.
Paul

On Feb 16, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> Ditto this. A very nice gallery.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 2011/2/16 Bob Sullivan :
>> Charles,
>> Nice job there.  That's a good example of no embarrassing angles and
>> not much icky stuff (*technical term).
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 20:06, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> 
 Tim,
 Birth is a pretty joyous event for most couples, but...
 It's also rather graphic and bloody.
>>> 
>>> It's possible to shoot one without a lot of gore (or embarrassing angles on 
>>> the mom).
>>> 
>>> I photographed the birth of my grandson back in 2009 and almost all of the 
>>> shots were acceptable for public display:
>>> 
>>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2009/evan_birth/
>>> 
>>> Mostly, you'll want to know the mom in some way.  I can't imagine letting 
>>> "some stranger" hang around in the room for such an intimate event.  And if 
>>> she's delivering at HOME you're that much better off.  Hospital births can 
>>> be so clinical and not-fun.
>>> 
>>>  -Charles
>>> 
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>>> http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson
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PESO 2011 - 030 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

A new "Communicating" photo available for viewing:

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5450399402/lightbox/
or 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5450399402/

The series slideshow :: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157625844414410/show/
(strip "show/" if flash doesn't work)

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Re: First some chatter. And then, how do I photograph a birth?

[Charles Robinson]

On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:20, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Charles,
> Nice job there.  That's a good example of no embarrassing angles and
> not much icky stuff (*technical term).
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 

Thanks, Bob. 

I recently had this entire gallery printed in a small book for mom to keep.  So 
much more fun to flip through than a binder with regular prints in it (or 
online).

The baby (!) is almost two years old now (ok, 18 months).. walking, talking, 
with personality.  Very fun to watch him grow!

> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 20:06, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> Birth is a pretty joyous event for most couples, but...
>>> It's also rather graphic and bloody.
>> 
>> It's possible to shoot one without a lot of gore (or embarrassing angles on 
>> the mom).
>> 
>> I photographed the birth of my grandson back in 2009 and almost all of the 
>> shots were acceptable for public display:
>> 
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2009/evan_birth/
>> 
>> Mostly, you'll want to know the mom in some way.  I can't imagine letting 
>> "some stranger" hang around in the room for such an intimate event.  And if 
>> she's delivering at HOME you're that much better off.  Hospital births can 
>> be so clinical and not-fun.
>> 
>>  -Charles
>> 
>> --
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>> Minneapolis, MN
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org
>> http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson
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Re: Peso's Annual Snow golf day

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Gosh, you really do play golf on snow, Dave... Gee, and doubtlessly you had
> fun!

Would i lie to the PDML.???

Dave
>
> On 2/13/2011 1:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>> Had the annual snow golf tournament Saturday. Windy, partially sunny
>> and a cold damp wind. What better golf conditions than that, eh.:-)
>>
>> Here are five first impression shots. I'll post a jalbum gallery
>> later, for those that want to see the fun.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654333
>> Fairway shot I
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654352
>> Tee shot
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654353
>> Lynn holing out.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654354
>> Fairway shot II
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654373
>> Memorial
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12654392
>> The group shot.
>>
>> Nikon D200, 18-70 lens, LR3 processing of the NEF files.
>>
>> Comments more than welcome
>>
>> Dave
>>
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Bird Books (was: Re: Unknown..)

[Christian]

I used to be a big fan of Peterson's but I find Sibley's better since it 
has more varieties of each species.  Book with photographs are almost 
impossible to use; drawings/paintings are much better for identification.


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On 2/14/2011 2:26 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Very nice capture Jack. I am envious.
You don't need a bird book, you need a hawk book. You'll then find many more 
detailed images of all (?) of the various North American hawks and related 
beasties. And, if like me, you'll still not be able to tell them apart. But at 
least you'll have a Hawk Book!

(I am on the road, in a couple of days will give you a specific reference to 
such a book if you like.)

stan

On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


I didn't "invest" in a bird book, but I have one I was given. Although fairly 
thick with many, may nice slick images, finding the needed angle for identification is 
still problematic.
Since posting I've been advised, in rather positive terms, that it's a young 
Red Tail.
Thanks for commenting, Ken!

Jack



--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Ken Waller  wrote:


From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: Unknown..
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 9:06 AM
Nice catch.

It's possibly a Broad-winged Hawk (Buteo platypterus).

Looks like its time for you to invest in a bird book.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message -
From: "Jack Davis"
Subject: PESO: Unknown..



..Hawk. Bird book no help. Anyone? Was a bit closer to

this one. Maybe

about 30 ft.(?) Close to ideal light angle.

Nough hawks for now!

Jack

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Re: PESO 2011 - 030 - GDG

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> A new "Communicating" photo available for viewing:
>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5450399402/lightbox/
> or
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5450399402/

I relaly like this one. Very subtle lighting and the arrangement of
the furniture is great. The guy on the laptop seems to add an old
way-new way look to it.

Dave
>
> The series slideshow ::
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157625844414410/show/
> (strip "show/" if flash doesn't work)
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> thanks for looking, comments appreciated.
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Re: PESO 2011 - 030 - GDG

[Boris Liberman]

Excellent series and a member thereof, Godders. Sorry, I don't have 
other comment than praise.


On 2/16/2011 4:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

A new "Communicating" photo available for viewing:

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5450399402/lightbox/
or
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The series slideshow ::
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Re: Quite Excited - PESOs

[Christian]

You've still got it, Cot.


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On 2/14/2011 7:20 PM, Cotty wrote:

4 pics from a stroll in Oxford today. First shots from these hands in a
long time. Girl on bike heavily cropped. This from a 4 megapixel camera
- I was impressed.



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Re: Peso's Annual Snow golf day

[Boris Liberman]

I did not imply that even for the splittest of seconds...

On 2/16/2011 4:52 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

Gosh, you really do play golf on snow, Dave... Gee, and doubtlessly you had
fun!


Would i lie to the PDML.???

Dave


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AF in K-5 video mode anyone?

[Roman Melihhov]

Hey, have anyone tweaked AF to work in K-5 video mode? While manual
focus is enough for creative videography, there's many situations where
I'd rely on AF and don't mind focus motor noise. External mic cancels
any in-body camera noises very well...




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Re: PESO - Speed Skater

[Chris Sheppard]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback. Much appreciated.

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Re: OT - Update on the Injury Front

[Ken Waller]

In my case the bottom end of my achilles wound up just below the back of my 
knee ! When it snapped I could see it wiggling up the calf muscle !


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- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph McAllister" 

Subject: Re: OT - Update on the Injury Front


on Feb 15, 2011, at 15:45 , Eric Weir wrote:



On Feb 15, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

My tendon was surgically reattached, but I was told it would reattach 
with out surgery ??? - my orthopaedic doctor recommended surgery.


Mine, too. I share your puzzlement about them reattaching without surgery.



Puzzles me as well. When my bicep detached itself from my shoulder the 
surgeon told me he had to dig pretty deep into the arm with  forceps to find 
the tendon so he could pull it up to it's original point of attachment. 
Takes a little while to get it stretched too. I understand the Achilles 
tendon behaves the same way, as do to varying degrees most of the muscles 
that when relaxed are stretched by opposing muscles ie: biceps / triceps.


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Re: Bird Books (was: Re: Unknown..)

[Ken Waller]

For those interested in the birds of Michigan (Paul, Stan, Bill & maybe 
others) I found a great little book - Birds of Michigan by Stan Tekiela. 
It's devided by colors with a page on each including relevant info.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Christian" 

Subject: Bird Books (was: Re: Unknown..)


I used to be a big fan of Peterson's but I find Sibley's better since it 
has more varieties of each species.  Book with photographs are almost 
impossible to use; drawings/paintings are much better for identification.


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On 2/14/2011 2:26 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Very nice capture Jack. I am envious.
You don't need a bird book, you need a hawk book. You'll then find many 
more detailed images of all (?) of the various North American hawks and 
related beasties. And, if like me, you'll still not be able to tell them 
apart. But at least you'll have a Hawk Book!


(I am on the road, in a couple of days will give you a specific reference 
to such a book if you like.)


stan

On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

I didn't "invest" in a bird book, but I have one I was given. Although 
fairly thick with many, may nice slick images, finding the needed angle 
for identification is still problematic.
Since posting I've been advised, in rather positive terms, that it's a 
young Red Tail.

Thanks for commenting, Ken!

Jack



--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Ken Waller  wrote:


From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: Unknown..
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 9:06 AM
Nice catch.

It's possibly a Broad-winged Hawk (Buteo platypterus).

Looks like its time for you to invest in a bird book.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message -
From: "Jack Davis"
Subject: PESO: Unknown..



..Hawk. Bird book no help. Anyone? Was a bit closer to

this one. Maybe

about 30 ft.(?) Close to ideal light angle.

Nough hawks for now!

Jack

Comments?

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Re: PESO - Phil Was Thinking: "Astronaut!"

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thumbs up! :-)

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:03 AM, frank theriault
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> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/phil-was-thinking-astronaut.html
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> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
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Re: OT Then and Now

[Joseph McAllister]

On Feb 15, 2011, at 15:22 , Joseph McAllister wrote:

> Took about a minute, but it does get over it's hesitation.
> 
> And they are almost very well done. 'Mazing.

Typing error: should be -  "and they are all most very well done."

Grammatical error —  I should have written - "and they are most all very well 
done."

Still awkward, let me try — "almost every one of the image pairs are quite well 
executed."


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PESO: I give up

[Charles Robinson]

So much snow piled up on the trees in Northern MN this last weekend.  

This little guy just didn't have the strength to cope anymore:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7789_large.html

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RE: OT Then and Now

[Bob W]

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Joseph McAllister
> > Took about a minute, but it does get over it's hesitation.
> >
> > And they are almost very well done. 'Mazing.
> 
> Typing error: should be -  "and they are all most very well done."
> 
> Grammatical error -  I should have written - "and they are most all
> very well done."
> 
> Still awkward, let me try - "almost every one of the image pairs are
> quite well executed."

_is_ quite well executed.  :o)




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OT: The Myth of the Unmanipulated Image

[Darren Addy]

Good article: http://www.bhinsights.com/content/myth-unmanipulated-image.html

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Re: OT: The Myth of the Unmanipulated Image

[Christian]

On 2/16/2011 3:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Good article: http://www.bhinsights.com/content/myth-unmanipulated-image.html



Most of the comments are ridiculous and miss the point of the article. 
No surprise there...


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Re: Quite Excited - PESOs

[Cotty]

On 16/2/11, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You've still got it, Cot.

So you say - I just wish I could find it ;)

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Re: OT: The Myth of the Unmanipulated Image

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-02-16 3:52 PM, Christian wrote:

On 2/16/2011 3:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
Good article: 
http://www.bhinsights.com/content/myth-unmanipulated-image.html


He expresses that rather well.




Most of the comments are ridiculous and miss the point of the article. 
No surprise there...




The SooC believer crowd is very devout. "La la la I can't hear you!!"

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Re: Thoughts between the two

[Toine]

I have the pro and it's working like mentioned in the add. The weight
reduction effect is noticable and a plus is you can remove the
shoulder pad and connect the two smaller remaining straps and use it
as a wrist strap.

On 16 February 2011 02:50, Jeffery Johnson
 wrote:
> I really hate doing this but looks as though I will end up having to
> purchase a strap. I cannot locate a pad off of any other strap around the
> house so looks like I will end up having to buy one.
>
> Probably going to go with OP/Tech brand straps:
>
> Which will either be
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/39638-REG/OP_TECH_USA_1501012_Pro_Stra
> p_3_8_Black.html
>
> Or
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/140198-REG/OP_TECH_USA_1001252_Classic
> _Strap_Black.html
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> Anyone's thoughts between the two or anyone have experience with either one
> of these straps.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: OT: The Myth of the Unmanipulated Image

[Paul Stenquist]

A well written article and  lucid explanation of a truth that makes so many 
photographers irrationally uncomfortable.
Paul
On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

> Good article: http://www.bhinsights.com/content/myth-unmanipulated-image.html
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Re: OT Then and Now

[drd1135]

Awesome, dude. ;-)
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On Feb 15, 2011, at 15:22 , Joseph McAllister wrote:

> Took about a minute, but it does get over it's hesitation.
> 
> And they are almost very well done. 'Mazing.

Typing error: should be -  "and they are all most very well done."

Grammatical error —  I should have written - "and they are most all very well 
done."

Still awkward, let me try — "almost every one of the image pairs are quite well 
executed."


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Re: PESO: I give up

[David J Brooks]

Use it in a sore back commercial

Dave

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> So much snow piled up on the trees in Northern MN this last weekend.
>
> This little guy just didn't have the strength to cope anymore:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7789_large.html
>
>  -Charles
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Apple adds support for Olympus E-5, Pentax K5 and others ...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Apple's released a new Raw Compatibility Software Update. Mac OS X users can 
obtain it by using the Software Update utility in the System Prefs. 

---
This update adds RAW image compatibility for the following cameras to Aperture 
3 and iPhoto '11:

• Canon EOS Rebel T3 / 1100D / Kiss X50
• Canon EOS Rebel T3i / 600D / Kiss X5
• Olympus E-5
• Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ100
• Pentax K-r
• Pentax K-5

It also addresses processing issues for the following cameras:

• Nikon D7000
• Nikon COOLPIX P7000
• Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF1
• Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH2

For more information on supported RAW formats, see 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3825
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enjoy! 

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Re: OT - Update on the Injury Front

[Eric Weir]

On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> In my case the bottom end of my achilles wound up just below the back of my 
> knee ! When it snapped I could see it wiggling up the calf muscle !
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" 
>> Subject: Re: OT - Update on the Injury Front
>> 
>> Puzzles me as well. When my bicep detached itself from my shoulder the 
>> surgeon told me he had to dig pretty deep into the arm with forceps to find 
>> the tendon so he could pull it up to it's original point of attachment. 
>> Takes a little while to get it stretched too. I understand the Achilles 
>> tendon behaves the same way, as do to varying degrees most of the muscles 
>> that when relaxed are stretched by opposing muscles ie: biceps / triceps.

In my case, the muscle did not contract when the rupture occurred. During 
surgery the orthopedist found that the tendon had become calcified at the 
attachment and just snapped off. While detached at the primary point of 
attachment, it was not completely detached. In order to make the repair he had 
to snip about an inch off the end of the tendon. Then in order to do the 
reattachment the foot had to be tipped down to bring the heel closer to the 
shortened tendon. He was concerned that when he took the cast off the foot 
would not be return to the normal position, that he'd have to bring it back 
gradually, that I'd have to remain on crutches a month or two longer. However, 
when the cast was taken off, the foot easily returned to the normal position. 
We attributed that to the fact that I've been doing yoga for most of my adult 
life.

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Re: PESO: I give up

[Ann Sanfedele]

Charles Robinson wrote:

So much snow piled up on the trees in Northern MN this last weekend.  


This little guy just didn't have the strength to cope anymore:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7789_large.html

-Charles

--
 


Nice - well, perhaps "nice" isn't right... good shot...

I backed up into the index, though, and found this lovely one

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7781_large.html
Don't know if you selected that earlier to show us, but I missed it if 
you did.


ann


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GESO: Photo walk on a warm February day

[Walter Gilbert]

 Hi all,

We had an unseasonably warm day here in western Kentucky, so I thought 
I'd take the cameras out and see what I came up with.  I filled up a 
roll of Plus-X 125 on the K1000 using my 135/2.5 and will have them 
developed soon.  On my K-x, I used my K-50/1.4 -- everything shot at 
f/16 just to get a feel for it.  I had mixed results, but all in all, 
was happy with the results.  I'm still learning the lens, obviously -- 
but, when I get it right, I really love the results.  Anyhoo ... here's 
the link:


http://www.damndirtyrino.com/2011/02/16/photo-walk-on-a-warm-february-day-21611/

Comments, critiques and frequent flyer miles are much appreciated.

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RE: Thoughts between the two

[Jeffery Johnson]

Thanks Toine I ordered the Pro Strap as it appears to be the most
comfortable. Will let everyone know the results of how it works out.


-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: Thoughts between the two

I have the pro and it's working like mentioned in the add. The weight
reduction effect is noticable and a plus is you can remove the shoulder pad
and connect the two smaller remaining straps and use it as a wrist strap.



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RE: GESO: Photo walk on a warm February day

[Jeffery Johnson]

These are nice pictures and yeah it finally is starting to warm up. Thank
goodness

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Subject: GESO: Photo walk on a warm February day

  Hi all,

We had an unseasonably warm day here in western Kentucky, so I thought I'd
take the cameras out and see what I came up with.  I filled up a roll of
Plus-X 125 on the K1000 using my 135/2.5 and will have them developed soon.
On my K-x, I used my K-50/1.4 -- everything shot at
f/16 just to get a feel for it.  I had mixed results, but all in all, was
happy with the results.  I'm still learning the lens, obviously -- but, when
I get it right, I really love the results.  Anyhoo ... here's the link:

http://www.damndirtyrino.com/2011/02/16/photo-walk-on-a-warm-february-day-21
611/

Comments, critiques and frequent flyer miles are much appreciated.

-- Walt


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A few more pictures

[Jeffery Johnson]

Here are a few more pictures that I have taken with my K-R. Again I am only
using and only have access to the kit lenses and do be gentle.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/sets/72157625946181733/

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Re: PESO: I give up

[Charles Robinson]

On Feb 16, 2011, at 20:08, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> Charles Robinson wrote:
> 
>> So much snow piled up on the trees in Northern MN this last weekend.  
>> This little guy just didn't have the strength to cope anymore:
>> 
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7789_large.html
>> 
>> -Charles
>> 
>> --
>> 
> Nice - well, perhaps "nice" isn't right... good shot...
> 
> I backed up into the index, though, and found this lovely one
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7781_large.html
> Don't know if you selected that earlier to show us, but I missed it if you 
> did.
> 

You like that?  I hadn't thought of it as a "selection" - but of course, I 
always fly through a gallery if someone posts a link to an image which has 
companions - so I'm glad you did, too.

Thanks, Ann.  Glad you like it.  I took video, too, of that moment - whistling 
wind it was cold.

 -Charles

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Re: PESO: I give up

[Ann Sanfedele]

Charles Robinson wrote:


On Feb 16, 2011, at 20:08, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 


Charles Robinson wrote:

   

So much snow piled up on the trees in Northern MN this last weekend.  
This little guy just didn't have the strength to cope anymore:


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7789_large.html

-Charles

--

 


Nice - well, perhaps "nice" isn't right... good shot...

I backed up into the index, though, and found this lovely one

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7781_large.html
Don't know if you selected that earlier to show us, but I missed it if you did.

   



You like that?  I hadn't thought of it as a "selection" - but of course, I 
always fly through a gallery if someone posts a link to an image which has companions - 
so I'm glad you did, too.

Thanks, Ann.  Glad you like it.  I took video, too, of that moment - whistling 
wind it was cold.

-Charles

 

Yup I like it _a lot_ and while you note that it was very windy and 
bitter cold, it looked tranquil and inviting to me - ephemeral.


ann




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Re: GESO: Photo walk on a warm February day

[Walter Gilbert]

   Thanks, Jeffery!

We've still got a ways to go before winter ends, but today was a nice 
prelude to spring.  :-)


Love what I'm seeing out of that K-r, BTW.  The IQ looks wonderful!

-- Walt

On 2/16/2011 9:54 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

These are nice pictures and yeah it finally is starting to warm up. Thank
goodness

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Subject: GESO: Photo walk on a warm February day

   Hi all,

We had an unseasonably warm day here in western Kentucky, so I thought I'd
take the cameras out and see what I came up with.  I filled up a roll of
Plus-X 125 on the K1000 using my 135/2.5 and will have them developed soon.
On my K-x, I used my K-50/1.4 -- everything shot at
f/16 just to get a feel for it.  I had mixed results, but all in all, was
happy with the results.  I'm still learning the lens, obviously -- but, when
I get it right, I really love the results.  Anyhoo ... here's the link:

http://www.damndirtyrino.com/2011/02/16/photo-walk-on-a-warm-february-day-21
611/

Comments, critiques and frequent flyer miles are much appreciated.

-- Walt


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Re: A few more pictures

[Ann Sanfedele]

They're nice... Well, the moon doesnt do much for me, but it wouldn't if 
it were perfect technically so that doesn't count :-)


I like the first sleeping neighborhood cat the best... I would link to 
that one to be more precise but flicker flummoxes me..
What is nice about these is the subtle color, the soft light and cat 
placement, like that comfy raggged old chair too.


ann

Jeffery Johnson wrote:


Here are a few more pictures that I have taken with my K-R. Again I am only
using and only have access to the kit lenses and do be gentle.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/sets/72157625946181733/

Jeffery




 





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Re: PESO: I give up

[drd1135]

It reminds me of the Xmas tree in the Charlie Brown special. 
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On Feb 16, 2011, at 20:08, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> Charles Robinson wrote:
> 
>> So much snow piled up on the trees in Northern MN this last weekend.  
>> This little guy just didn't have the strength to cope anymore:
>> 
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7789_large.html
>> 
>> -Charles
>> 
>> --
>> 
> Nice - well, perhaps "nice" isn't right... good shot...
> 
> I backed up into the index, though, and found this lovely one
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7781_large.html
> Don't know if you selected that earlier to show us, but I missed it if you 
> did.
> 

You like that?  I hadn't thought of it as a "selection" - but of course, I 
always fly through a gallery if someone posts a link to an image which has 
companions - so I'm glad you did, too.

Thanks, Ann.  Glad you like it.  I took video, too, of that moment - whistling 
wind it was cold.

 -Charles

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Re: A few more pictures

[drd1135]

I like this set. I wonder what "human with a f*#$ing camera" is in cat speak?
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Here are a few more pictures that I have taken with my K-R. Again I am only
using and only have access to the kit lenses and do be gentle.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/sets/72157625946181733/

Jeffery




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Re: OT: The Myth of the Unmanipulated Image

[Igor Roshchin]

On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

> Good article:
> http://www.bhinsights.com/content/myth-unmanipulated-image.html
> 

I like that article.

For those people who "like to see what an image looks like straight out
[of] the camera", just think for a moment how you are going to see it. 

On a monitor? But that depends on the monitor and its calibration. And
even if you used a calibration tool, if you used it on a different
monitor (especially a different model), the result won't be exactly the
same.

Out of a printer? But it will come differently from different printers.
Did you say ICC profiles? But that is not much different from a display
calibration (see above).

Remember that even eye of different people will see the same picture
differently. More over, your own eye will see the same picture
differently, depending on your condition. Because your eye's "ICC" that
is loaded in your brain can be fooled very easily by many-many factors
(light around, your health, mood, etc.).

No matter what media you use (film, digital, human eye, ...) - you
always have a "transfer function" that has at least one calibration
(e.g. your eye), - and that calibration can depend on many conditions.

Igor


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RE: A few more pictures

[John Coyle]

I'm not a cat person myself, so the subject is only OK for me! But, a
distinct improvement with the exposures, Jeffery, you seem to be nailing
that.  For the moon shot, if memory serves me right you need to overexpose
by 2-3 stops compared with the automatic meter setting to get a bright moon
surface (correct me if I'm wrong, PDML'ers!)


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

 

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Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2011 1:57 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: A few more pictures

Here are a few more pictures that I have taken with my K-R. Again I am only
using and only have access to the kit lenses and do be gentle.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/sets/72157625946181733/

Jeffery




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RE: GESO: Photo walk on a warm February day

[John Coyle]

Hi Walt - some nice shots there, but I felt that some of them were softer
than I would expect.  9423 is one example, but in others, like the two b&w
shots of the little hut, the resolution doesn't seem what I would expect.  I
believe that converting to monochrome is best done using only one channel,
and I'm sure one of the gurus here will know which one!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: GESO: Photo walk on a warm February day

  Hi all,

We had an unseasonably warm day here in western Kentucky, so I thought I'd
take the cameras out and see what I came up with.  I filled up a roll of
Plus-X 125 on the K1000 using my 135/2.5 and will have them developed soon.
On my K-x, I used my K-50/1.4 -- everything shot at
f/16 just to get a feel for it.  I had mixed results, but all in all, was
happy with the results.  I'm still learning the lens, obviously -- but, when
I get it right, I really love the results.  Anyhoo ... here's the link:

http://www.damndirtyrino.com/2011/02/16/photo-walk-on-a-warm-february-day-21
611/

Comments, critiques and frequent flyer miles are much appreciated.

-- Walt


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Re: OT: The Myth of the Unmanipulated Image

[Boris Liberman]

The man's right.

I think that this whole issue stems from the more general concept. Often 
we would confuse our personal perception of something with its general 
counterpart. As a consequence, we would project our own perception and, 
in this very case, call an image "true to life" whereas the notion of 
what is "true" is different for every single one of us. But without 
noticing that "true to life" of mine may be different from that of 
another person, I would engage myself in a heated debate with them, 
although in many cases such a debate would be pointless from the beginning.


To that end, I can only recall once in a lifetime (so far) experience of 
visiting a photo exhibition in Chicago with fellow PDMLers. That was a 
blast in many aspects, including that of being able to actually talk 
with someone about what I saw knowing that they are a kindred spirit 
that would most likely understand me better.


Boris


On 2/16/2011 10:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Good article: http://www.bhinsights.com/content/myth-unmanipulated-image.html




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Re: PESO: I give up

[Boris Liberman]

Charles, I am thinking that you choose too high a point. It's almost 
like you dwarf the little guy from the height of your tallness...


On 2/16/2011 10:08 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

So much snow piled up on the trees in Northern MN this last weekend.

This little guy just didn't have the strength to cope anymore:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/lake_vermillion_feb/content/IMGP7789_large.html

  -Charles

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Re: My first in-depth review of a lens published

[Boris Liberman]

You may be right, Jostein. It is just that in principle I should have 
been able to provide full size JPGs and I don't have those for my film 
images shot with FA 20. And words without images won't do much good. 
Also it seems to me, that PentaxForums is somewhat digital-centristic, 
so to say.


Boris


On 2/16/2011 11:13 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

Since you point out its convenience for film, perhaps you should have
included some words on performance in the gelatine world? The
"aberrations" rating would probably look quite different because of
the lens' droplet distortion towards the corners, for example. Sample
variation was also a big issue with this lens, IIRC. Especially with
regards to centering.

When I look at some of my shots, from the days of the *istD, I see
purple-green aberrations increasing towards the corners. Mine was not
perfectly centered, so it's more noticeable on the left side of the
images.

Jostein

2011/2/16 Boris Liberman:

Hi!

Though PentaxForums does not seem to be in big favor here, I did participate
in the recent round of user in-depth reviews over there. So here it is: my
first published review:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax_fa_20mm_review.php

There are few misprints that I hope will be hammered out by the forum team.

Have your say. Brutal and honest is good.

Boris

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Re: My first in-depth review of a lens published

[Boris Liberman]

On 2/16/2011 3:16 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Actually, I use some of the features like the lens reviews.  I'm just
to lazy (and too easily annoyed) to sift through the posts for useful
information.


Thanks, Steven. I'd take it as a faint praise /grin/.

Boris

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