Re: PESO - From Our Porch

[steve harley]

On 2011-08-15 18:53 , Rick Womer wrote:

Thanks, Steve!

The shore is very rocky, and the beach small and reserved for kids and 
swimmers.  So, most of the boats get moored.  It's not hard to wade out to 
them, though.


ah, makes much more sense if you can wade to them

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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks, Ken.

If I ever figure out how to fix it without ruining it, I'll post the 
results.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2011 10:45 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Would be a wonderful capture if it wasn't for the bright white spot in 
the background.


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- Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" 
Subject: Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset




On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:


Hi all,

I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the 
front yard this evening.  All but about a dozen or so blossoms are 
gone on this tree, and I just happened to catch this one out of the 
corner of my eye from a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or 
take.  And it looked like a good bokeh opportunity.


Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual

Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.


You're making up for time spent not taking pictures, another keeper.




Best,

Walt






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Re: Local Boy makes good in NASCAR

[Ken Waller]

A great win for Marcos! 
Especially while in a Ford. 
Around his hundreth race in the cup series I believe.


I'm glad to see he remains in a Ford.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Philip Northeast" 

Subject: Local Boy makes good in NASCAR


In honour of local boy Marcos Ambrose finally breaking through for his 
first win in NASCAR'S top level Cup series I dug into the picture vaults 
and dusted of this one of him racing at his home track in Australia.


http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2011/06/21/postcard-from-tasmania/
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Local Boy makes good in NASCAR

[Philip Northeast]

In honour of local boy Marcos Ambrose finally breaking through for his 
first win in NASCAR'S top level Cup series I dug into the picture vaults 
and dusted of this one of him racing at his home track in Australia.


http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2011/06/21/postcard-from-tasmania/
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Re: PESO - The Chess Match

[P. J. Alling]

I don't think I'd be caught dead wearing one of the damned things.

On 8/15/2011 5:55 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "P. J. Alling"

On 8/15/2011 9:35 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
Excellent, Knarf!  The intense concentration is so clear, and the 
rendering is excellent.




Wandering off topic for a moment:  I loathe those Bluetooth ear 
thingies. I can understand them for some things (like tedious 
conference calls), but not for constant wearing, especially in 
social situations.  They say to me "any jerk who rings my cell phone 
is more important than you are."




Rick

I just wish that they made them to look like the earpiece that Lt. Uhura
had in Startrek.  Nothing would say "I'm a geek" faster.



If you're going to have one, it should be implanted completely & 
totally internally, and I'd like to offer the services of my friend 
Mr. Ball-Peen Hammer to assist you with the insertion.





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Re: PESO - Illuminated Forest

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture Tom.
I've heard those rays called god rays.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" 

Subject: PESO - Illuminated Forest



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020993

Taken last Friday on the way home from work.

Tom C.



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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Keith Mosier]

Very Nice!
 
Walt Gilbert wrote on Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:13:28 -0700
>Hi all, I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the 
>front yard this evening. All but about a dozen or so blossoms are gone on this 
>tree, and I just >happened to catch this one out of the corner of my eye from 
>a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take. And it looked like a good 
>bokeh opportunity. 
>Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x: 
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/ ISO 560, 1/500 sec, 
>f/3.5, Manual Any input appreciated.  So do as >you will. Best, Walt 

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Re: PESO - Illuminated Forest

[Keith Mosier]

Very Nice!
 
Tom C  wrote on Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:14:04 -0600
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>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020993
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>Taken last Friday on the way home from work.
>
>Tom C

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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Ken Waller]

Would be a wonderful capture if it wasn't for the bright white spot in the 
background.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset




On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:


Hi all,

I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the front 
yard this evening.  All but about a dozen or so blossoms are gone on this 
tree, and I just happened to catch this one out of the corner of my eye 
from a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take.  And it looked 
like a good bokeh opportunity.


Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual

Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.


You're making up for time spent not taking pictures, another keeper.




Best,

Walt



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Re: OT: the heady feeling of drafting

[Subash]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:52:11 -0700
Larry Colen  wrote:

> Interesting that you call that a century.  The one ride I did of that
> length they called a metric double.

Larry, hereabouts a 100km ride is a called century ride and a 160km
(100 miles) ride is called an imperial century. 

> I've never drafted a truck, but back in college when I did longer
> rides, I did a lot of wheelsucking.
> 
> Perhaps the best one was the time I rode the Davis Double Century
> solo.  My goal was to be back by dark, and when I was about 50 miles
> out it looked like there was no way I was going to make it. Then a
> tandem went past like I was standing still, so I asked if I could
> draft. They said "no problem" and I jumped in behind them.  Within a
> couple of miles the draft line had grown to about 30 bikes.
> 
> The reason the tandem was running so late was  that at the start of
> the ride there are all these huge packs and draft lines of 50, maybe
> 150 bikes. Every year, someone will see a cop car at one of the farm
> road intersections and before they notice the cop is controlling
> traffic will slam on their brakes to keep from running the stop sign
> that they were going to blow off.  It is not a good thing when
> someone suddenly slams on their brakes in the middle of a draft line.
> 
> On another ride (I think it was the metric double that I did without
> training, on a bike without a front derailleur, I was chatting up a
> girl I had caught up with and she said she needed to back off the
> pace.  I said she could draft me if she wanted. With her back there I
> slipped into the zone and pretty much forgot about everything until a
> while later, I heard a voice saying "you've pulled the line for a
> quite a while, I can lead if you want". I looked back and there was a
> long draft line behind me.

nice story. thanks for sharing. when we do group rides here, it is
usually about six to eight people and within the 20th km we are all
spread out far and wide so never done something like that... :)


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Re: the heady feeling of drafting

[Subash]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:21:21 +0100
"Bob W"  wrote:

> I did a similar pace a couple of years before that on a Roman road
> leading into Dorchester. From the top of Eggardon Hill, which is an
> Iron Age hillfort at about 250m, there's a long shallow descent to
> 70m over 10km to just outside Dorchester. The road is more or less
> dead straight, and deserted. An exhilarating ride. 

during my cycle ride last year in the himalayas, there were plenty of
exhilarating descents like that. i was particularly looking forward to
this pass called rohtang. from the top which is about 13000-odd feet it
comes down to a town called manali (6,000-odd feet) over 40 km or so.
when i actually reached the place the weather was so bad, it was
raining hard and the road was so slushy and muddy that i waited for
sometime and hitched a ride down in a pick-up. the most thrilling ride
i never had :)

> The next day I fell off at 2mph and broke my wrist.

i do remember the xray peso :)

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Re: the heady feeling of drafting

[Subash]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:57:12 +0100
"Bob W"  wrote:

> that's a good average pace, especially on a MTB.

usually we start these long rides pretty early in the morning around 4,
so that by the time the sun gets into its stride, we are almost
finishing the ride. this was a group ride, so it started late, it was
pretty hot, so that kind of delayed things. my average for such long
distances is usually only around 22/23 kmph anyway...

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Re: OT: the heady feeling of drafting

[Subash]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:03:02 -0400
John Francis  wrote:

> Judging by some of the trucks I've seen on the roads out there,
> I wouldn't be too sure about that ...

:) some of them wouldn't have working brake lights either, not that it
would make a difference in those circumstances... :)


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Re: OT: the heady feeling of drafting

[Subash]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:53:27 -0500
Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> S,  Only problem is his brakes are probably better than yours...

Bob, you are probably right. i guess i just wanted to see what it
felt like. i probably won't do it for a living :) 

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Re: OT: the heady feeling of drafting

[Subash]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:25:09 +0100
Drew  wrote:

> My father-in-law told me once of an incident that happened to
> him he was bus driver back in the days when town buses had the
> open platform at the rear where passengers could jump on and off.
> He was bringing a bus back to the main depot from one of the smaller
> ones, as he was not in service he was travelling about 40 mph along a
> long straight road, he put the indicator on and braked to turn into
> the depot. There was a horrible clatter and cyclist and his bike were
> suddenly right up the front of the bus next to him in the driver's
> seat.  The poor chap had been drafting him but couldn't get out of
> the way when he braked and 'used' the open platform at the rear to
> get on-board.  He apparently 'only' broke his leg and got cuts and
> bruises.

our roads being what they are especially during /immediately after
monsoons, there is also the additional problem of (sometimes
huge) potholes since one can't see the road ahead. i guess most
cyclists who draft know what is involved and like i told Bob, i have
been cycling for almost two years now and just wanted to see what it
was like... :)

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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

[Ann Sanfedele]

I think it is "get me outta here and take me home"

very sweet, Paul

ann

On 8/15/2011 19:22, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

I can just read the doggy's mind: Now wait, what are you doing out there and
me in here...

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Walt Gilbert]

On 8/15/2011 7:23 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I forgot a couple of advicelets:

Permanently set your WB to Cloudy. Weird advice huh? But here's the 
thing: you are already shooting RAW (you are, I hope) and you can 
always adjust the WB to whatever you want later. Cloudy is like "warm 
daylight/flash" so it gives skin tones a healthy glow.
That's what I eventually settled on after getting some very, very cool 
(and not in the colloquial sense) results from AWB.  And I agree -- it 
worked much better.  I was able to salvage just about every shot I took, 
and the skin tones were extremely natural-looking, if oversaturated -- 
which was my fault for not bumping it back down after ticking it up for 
some flowers and such.


I wasn't shooting RAW on those shots, since I needed to turn them around 
pretty quickly, but I have gotten into the habit of doing that these 
days, after spending a year shooting strictly in JPEG under the false 
impression that the K-x's compression engine was /just/ that good.




In that crazy room with mixed light sources, I imagine that on a sunny 
or hazy day the windows will win and the light will be 70-80% 
daylight-ish temp with "fill" from both fluorescent and tungsten.  You 
should be ok with Daylight or Cloudy.


You're going to have a lot of blue highlights from those dropped 
tungsten lamps I bet.  You could reduce the blue saturation in 
Lightroom's colour tweaker sliders.
Unfortunately, I don't have LR.  I'm still using an ancient copy of 
Photoshop 7, which worked pretty well on those shots when I desaturated 
it around 15 - 20% across the spectrum and then knocked the reds and 
yellows down just a bit more on top of it.  That really brought out the 
detail, as well.




Here's another obscure one: take a shot of something neutral gray (I'm 
assuming you didn't bring a gray card) and you can use that to improve 
your WB later on (Lr or Ps). I find that the back covers of many 
keyboards (musical ones) are gray.  There's often one to be found on a 
stage.
Great tip!  I don't know why I hadn't thought of it.  Definitely one to 
file away for future reference.


Thanks again!

-- Walt



-bmw

On 11-08-15 7:39 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Thanks for all the advice, Bruce.

I do most of those to one extent or the other, though I have a tough 
time making myself bump the ISO up, even though the camera is capable 
of it.  I never go above 3200 unless it's just to show someone that 
the camera will do it.  I should probably get over that, huh?


Being prepared for the very small keeper rate, on the other hand -- 
that's my forte!


I usually keep my camera in center-weighted, average metering, as 
I've been less than impressed with the matrix metering in the past.  
And I agree that does tend to produce better results to my eye.


Where I have the most difficulty is in a situation like the one I was 
in most recently -- indoors during mid-day, huge windows with lots of 
sunlight under a hazy sky in a room with very high ceilings with 
recessed fluorescent bulbs, plus dropped fixtures (about 7 ft or 2.5 
m high) with incandescent bulbs, PLUS some very, very white light 
spilling in from a kitchen area, just off to the right.  All of this 
in a room with fairly bright yellow walls.


I got some crazy-looking colors out of that one.  The AWB just threw 
up its hands and said, "Your guess is as good as mine, dude."


Thanks again!

Walt



On 8/15/2011 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Some quick advice, Walt.

Switch away from matrix metering; go with center-weighted or spot. 
Chances are the stage lights are focused on the performers, so 
they're the brightest things in the room.


If you go spot metering, meter off of faces. They are close enough 
to 18% grey so the meter is about right.


Raise the ISO higher than you think is reasonable. :)  Either the 
camera's ISO is great (eg K-5, K-x etc.) or you can use Lightroom or 
a noise-reduction plugin, or simply go black and white and call the 
grain art.


Take the fastest lens(es) you've got. Learn to like (or at least get 
along with) their field of view.


If the action is too fast for manual focusing, pre-focus on a point 
and snap when the action gets to that point. Be prepared to have a 
very small keeper rate.


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Re: PESO - From Our Porch

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Steve!

The shore is very rocky, and the beach small and reserved for kids and 
swimmers.  So, most of the boats get moored.  It's not hard to wade out to 
them, though.

Rick

--- On Mon, 8/15/11, steve harley  wrote:

> On 2011-08-14 19:09 , Rick Womer
> wrote:
> > ...of our rented cabin:
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13989694&size=lg
> 
> i experience some relaxation just looking at that
> 
> > Alas, one of this very photogenic pair of sailboats is
> now out of the water.
> 
> it is a little odd to me to see Sunfish moored in the
> water; i sailed them a few times, and a similar design
> hundreds of times, and always just launched from shore
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PESO - Wet

[Rick Womer]

Plenty of empty chairs down by the swimming dock today.  63F (17C), strong east 
wind, rain.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14023471&size=lg

(K7, FA 24-90)

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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-08-15 11:33 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 8/15/2011 10:20 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I'm still in the recovering bokehaholic phase myself.
That's one thing I love about photography -- how there's always 
another component of it to be obsessed with.


Mark!


Thanks for the advice!  You're now officially an enabler.  How do you 
sleep at night?


-- Walt


Just use my advice for good and not evil. :)

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Bruce Walker]

I forgot a couple of advicelets:

Permanently set your WB to Cloudy. Weird advice huh? But here's the 
thing: you are already shooting RAW (you are, I hope) and you can always 
adjust the WB to whatever you want later. Cloudy is like "warm 
daylight/flash" so it gives skin tones a healthy glow.


In that crazy room with mixed light sources, I imagine that on a sunny 
or hazy day the windows will win and the light will be 70-80% 
daylight-ish temp with "fill" from both fluorescent and tungsten.  You 
should be ok with Daylight or Cloudy.


You're going to have a lot of blue highlights from those dropped 
tungsten lamps I bet.  You could reduce the blue saturation in 
Lightroom's colour tweaker sliders.


Here's another obscure one: take a shot of something neutral gray (I'm 
assuming you didn't bring a gray card) and you can use that to improve 
your WB later on (Lr or Ps). I find that the back covers of many 
keyboards (musical ones) are gray.  There's often one to be found on a 
stage.


-bmw

On 11-08-15 7:39 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Thanks for all the advice, Bruce.

I do most of those to one extent or the other, though I have a tough 
time making myself bump the ISO up, even though the camera is capable 
of it.  I never go above 3200 unless it's just to show someone that 
the camera will do it.  I should probably get over that, huh?


Being prepared for the very small keeper rate, on the other hand -- 
that's my forte!


I usually keep my camera in center-weighted, average metering, as I've 
been less than impressed with the matrix metering in the past.  And I 
agree that does tend to produce better results to my eye.


Where I have the most difficulty is in a situation like the one I was 
in most recently -- indoors during mid-day, huge windows with lots of 
sunlight under a hazy sky in a room with very high ceilings with 
recessed fluorescent bulbs, plus dropped fixtures (about 7 ft or 2.5 m 
high) with incandescent bulbs, PLUS some very, very white light 
spilling in from a kitchen area, just off to the right.  All of this 
in a room with fairly bright yellow walls.


I got some crazy-looking colors out of that one.  The AWB just threw 
up its hands and said, "Your guess is as good as mine, dude."


Thanks again!

Walt



On 8/15/2011 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Some quick advice, Walt.

Switch away from matrix metering; go with center-weighted or spot. 
Chances are the stage lights are focused on the performers, so 
they're the brightest things in the room.


If you go spot metering, meter off of faces. They are close enough to 
18% grey so the meter is about right.


Raise the ISO higher than you think is reasonable. :)  Either the 
camera's ISO is great (eg K-5, K-x etc.) or you can use Lightroom or 
a noise-reduction plugin, or simply go black and white and call the 
grain art.


Take the fastest lens(es) you've got. Learn to like (or at least get 
along with) their field of view.


If the action is too fast for manual focusing, pre-focus on a point 
and snap when the action gets to that point. Be prepared to have a 
very small keeper rate.


-bmw




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RE: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Jeffery Johnson]

After I wrote and sent my comment, I remember doing the same thing when it
comes to spotting things that normally are not obvious. Especially after I
have gotten back into taking captures. It also helps that while out on my
nature walks I am always trying to keep an eye out and trained on areas of
the woods that are different colors or shadows that are moving about and the
different sounds around me.

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Subject: Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

On 8/15/2011 6:25 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
> Nice capture and amazed you spotted it that far...
Thanks, Jeffery!

If it hadn't been illuminated the way it was against a fairly bland
background, I'd have never seen it.  I mean, the sun was hitting it
*just* right.

-- Walt

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> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:13 AM
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> Subject: PESO: Mimosa Sunset
>
> Hi all,
>
> I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the 
> front yard this evening.  All but about a dozen or so blossoms are 
> gone on this tree, and I just happened to catch this one out of the 
> corner of my eye from a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or 
> take.  And it looked like a good bokeh opportunity.
>
> Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
> ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual
>
> Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.
>
> Best,
>
> Walt
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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> On 11-08-15 7:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> I find I'm happier with the trad grid thumbnail layout these days. I can 
>>> browse the thumbs and choose a couple to inspect. If I like what I see I 
>>> will walk through more of the gallery.  Flickriver (and all the other 
>>> "infinite-list" brethren) doesn't give you that option. Either you wait for 
>>> all the fullsize images to load or you get nothing.
>> If the flickr grid were the whole image scaled down to 120 pixels, that 
>> would be my preference, but they do some arbitrary 100 pixel square crop, 
>> which is inevitably bad.  I will point out that if you prefer the flickr 
>> interface (and you may be the only person on the planet that does) and don't 
>> want to do something else while it preloads, you can always easily tweak the 
>> url
> 
> That's what I later did.
> 
> Don't get me wrong though, I *don't* like Flickr's grid either. That 
> arbitrary 100x100px crop thing sux.
> 
> I'm still wandering around randomly looking for a better photo-site. 500px 
> has some nice bits, but you can't even create sets unless you go "Awesome" 
> (paid level).  Lately I've been putting small galleries up on Dropbox by 
> exporting HTML directly from Lightroom.  Dumb as a bag of Canikon glass, but 
> it works.

I'll eventually "do it right" on http://www.redforestphoto.com  
For some value of "right"


> 
> 
>> 
>> I do like LRC24079,
>> :-)  That was a case of blown focus.  EXIF doesn't say whether it was manual 
>> or auto focus, but either my eye, or the camera picked the tuning keys to 
>> adjust on, leaving the bass player out of focus.  Just as I was about to get 
>> rid of that photo, I saw this crop in it, and decided I liked it.
> 
> I *never* delete shots unless they are 100% white or black.  I mark them as 
> Reject if they are very crappy, but they are always restorable.
> 
> I hope you take this as a lesson. :)

I only delete shots that are totally blown from my mac.  And still keep backup 
copies of everything, straight off the card, on my Linux box.

A very similar thing happened to me with this photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4902762069/in/set-72157624636199391

I forgot that the 16-50 was on manual focus and didn't notice it when I was 
photographing the Veyron with the other bug in the background.  When I was 
sorting photos, I realized the upper right corner was a better picture than the 
one I was trying to take.


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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Walt Gilbert]

On 8/15/2011 6:25 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

Nice capture and amazed you spotted it that far...

Thanks, Jeffery!

If it hadn't been illuminated the way it was against a fairly bland 
background, I'd have never seen it.  I mean, the sun was hitting it 
*just* right.


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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:13 AM
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Subject: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

Hi all,

I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the front
yard this evening.  All but about a dozen or so blossoms are gone on this
tree, and I just happened to catch this one out of the corner of my eye from
a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take.  And it looked like a
good bokeh opportunity.

Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual

Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.

Best,

Walt

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-08-15 7:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


I find I'm happier with the trad grid thumbnail layout these days. I can browse the 
thumbs and choose a couple to inspect. If I like what I see I will walk through more of 
the gallery.  Flickriver (and all the other "infinite-list" brethren) doesn't 
give you that option. Either you wait for all the fullsize images to load or you get 
nothing.

If the flickr grid were the whole image scaled down to 120 pixels, that would 
be my preference, but they do some arbitrary 100 pixel square crop, which is 
inevitably bad.  I will point out that if you prefer the flickr interface (and 
you may be the only person on the planet that does) and don't want to do 
something else while it preloads, you can always easily tweak the url


That's what I later did.

Don't get me wrong though, I *don't* like Flickr's grid either. That 
arbitrary 100x100px crop thing sux.


I'm still wandering around randomly looking for a better photo-site. 
500px has some nice bits, but you can't even create sets unless you go 
"Awesome" (paid level).  Lately I've been putting small galleries up on 
Dropbox by exporting HTML directly from Lightroom.  Dumb as a bag of 
Canikon glass, but it works.





I do like LRC24079,
:-)  That was a case of blown focus.  EXIF doesn't say whether it was manual or 
auto focus, but either my eye, or the camera picked the tuning keys to adjust 
on, leaving the bass player out of focus.  Just as I was about to get rid of 
that photo, I saw this crop in it, and decided I liked it.


I *never* delete shots unless they are 100% white or black.  I mark them 
as Reject if they are very crappy, but they are always restorable.


I hope you take this as a lesson. :)

-bmw

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks for all the advice, Bruce.

I do most of those to one extent or the other, though I have a tough 
time making myself bump the ISO up, even though the camera is capable of 
it.  I never go above 3200 unless it's just to show someone that the 
camera will do it.  I should probably get over that, huh?


Being prepared for the very small keeper rate, on the other hand -- 
that's my forte!


I usually keep my camera in center-weighted, average metering, as I've 
been less than impressed with the matrix metering in the past.  And I 
agree that does tend to produce better results to my eye.


Where I have the most difficulty is in a situation like the one I was in 
most recently -- indoors during mid-day, huge windows with lots of 
sunlight under a hazy sky in a room with very high ceilings with 
recessed fluorescent bulbs, plus dropped fixtures (about 7 ft or 2.5 m 
high) with incandescent bulbs, PLUS some very, very white light spilling 
in from a kitchen area, just off to the right.  All of this in a room 
with fairly bright yellow walls.


I got some crazy-looking colors out of that one.  The AWB just threw up 
its hands and said, "Your guess is as good as mine, dude."


Thanks again!

Walt



On 8/15/2011 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Some quick advice, Walt.

Switch away from matrix metering; go with center-weighted or spot. 
Chances are the stage lights are focused on the performers, so they're 
the brightest things in the room.


If you go spot metering, meter off of faces. They are close enough to 
18% grey so the meter is about right.


Raise the ISO higher than you think is reasonable. :)  Either the 
camera's ISO is great (eg K-5, K-x etc.) or you can use Lightroom or a 
noise-reduction plugin, or simply go black and white and call the 
grain art.


Take the fastest lens(es) you've got. Learn to like (or at least get 
along with) their field of view.


If the action is too fast for manual focusing, pre-focus on a point 
and snap when the action gets to that point. Be prepared to have a 
very small keeper rate.


-bmw

On 11-08-15 8:06 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
You got some great shots in there, Larry -- 
20110813-LRC24134.jpg 
 has to be my 
favorite of the bunch and20110813-LRC24174.jpg 
 is a close 2nd.


I really need to learn how to work better in mixed lighting 
situations.  I've lost some potentially nice shots because I don't 
know what's going to freak out the metering.


I wish I could've stayed out in CA a while longer.  There's just so 
much to photograph out there.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2011 12:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The 
Rent Party. Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various 
reasons, they decided to close up shop and last night was their 
final night, with two live bands.


The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room 
aimed at the floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by 
a couple of lights aimed at the wall behind them. The blues room was 
light by four clamp lights, with red bulbs bounced off the walls. 
Two of which were behind the musicians.


I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when 
you're dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. 
So, all in all, the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a 
few shots where I just took the bad lighting and tried to see what I 
could do with it, pushing it even further over the edge in post 
processing.


Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some 
fun shots out of it:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> On 11-08-15 3:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11-08-15 1:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The Rent 
 Party. Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various reasons, they 
 decided to close up shop and last night was their final night, with two 
 live bands.
 
 The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed at 
 the floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a couple of 
 lights aimed at the wall behind them. The blues room was light by four 
 clamp lights, with red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two of which were 
 behind the musicians.
 
 I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when you're 
 dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. So, all in 
 all, the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few shots where I 
 just took the bad lighting and tried to see what I could do with it, 
 pushing it even further over the edge in post processing.
 
 Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some fun 
 shots out of it:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/
 
 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
>>> TMP
>> Too Many Photos?
> 
> Got it in one. :)

That's an ongoing struggle of mine.

> 
> Actually, it's only partly TMP: I am irked by the poor behaviour of the 
> Flickriver presentation when the number of shots is large. I try to scroll 
> and the Javascript starts its clumsy machinations -- scrolling drunkenly back 
> and forth while attempting to preload a bunch of large images.

Yeah, I point to the page, scroll to the bottom, Lather, Rinse, Repeat a few 
times while doing other stuff, once the gallery is loaded, then I look.

> 
> I find I'm happier with the trad grid thumbnail layout these days. I can 
> browse the thumbs and choose a couple to inspect. If I like what I see I will 
> walk through more of the gallery.  Flickriver (and all the other 
> "infinite-list" brethren) doesn't give you that option. Either you wait for 
> all the fullsize images to load or you get nothing.

If the flickr grid were the whole image scaled down to 120 pixels, that would 
be my preference, but they do some arbitrary 100 pixel square crop, which is 
inevitably bad.  I will point out that if you prefer the flickr interface (and 
you may be the only person on the planet that does) and don't want to do 
something else while it preloads, you can always easily tweak the url

> 
> Rant over -- sorry.

If the PDML weren't filled with cranky curmudgeons always kvetching about 
something, I wouldn't feel nearly so much at home.

> 
> I do like LRC24079,

:-)  That was a case of blown focus.  EXIF doesn't say whether it was manual or 
auto focus, but either my eye, or the camera picked the tuning keys to adjust 
on, leaving the bass player out of focus.  Just as I was about to get rid of 
that photo, I saw this crop in it, and decided I liked it.


> LRC24113 and LRC24175.

Thanks.

> 
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RE: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Jeffery Johnson]

Nice capture and amazed you spotted it that far...

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Gilbert
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:13 AM
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Subject: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

Hi all,

I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the front
yard this evening.  All but about a dozen or so blossoms are gone on this
tree, and I just happened to catch this one out of the corner of my eye from
a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take.  And it looked like a
good bokeh opportunity.

Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual

Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.

Best,

Walt

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RE: PESO - Doggy in the Window

[Jeffery Johnson]

I can just read the doggy's mind: Now wait, what are you doing out there and
me in here...

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020256&size=lg

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RE: PESO - Illuminated Forest

[Jeffery Johnson]

Nice capture to capture on your way home.

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020993

Taken last Friday on the way home from work.

Tom C.

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RE: PESO - Doggy in the Window

[Bill Sawyer]

Ditto

Bill Sawyer

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One of the best so far.

Dave

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Re: OT aarrgh!

[Jack Davis]

Just reaffirmed the brilliance of our decision to move to California. Also, 
have resisted Comcast phone service. Thanks for the reminder of one reason why. 
> SMUG grin.

Jack

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> From: Ann Sanfedele 
> Subject: OT aarrgh!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 3:30 PM
> Had big storms here - perhaps partly
> to blame from the roller-coaster ride of service-no-service
> on Time Warner Cable...
> 
> "The service has been disrupted in -Your- area - we are
> working hard to ..."
> 
> Both the Tv and INternet went on Sunday afternoon - If I
> had had their phone service, that would have been out too.
> Glad I kept the land line
> and cell phone is different all together
> 
> couldnt work or watch the PGA golf or movies or play
> scrabble or go out shooting as the weather was fierce...
> about 11 pm it was up for about two hours... got a bit
> done, then
> it failed again .  On in the morning for a slim hour
> or so...
> etc...
> 
> One thing if TV is off -- I can still work and do email. or
> of the internet is down and least I could watch Sunday night
> TV...
> has never happened before here - realise how dependent I am
> on it.
> 
> So if I'm less chatty for a bit for a day or so you'll know
> I'm
> trying to catch up with necessary stuff
> 
> end of mini-rant
> 
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RE: OT aarrgh!

[Bob W]

> couldnt work or watch the PGA golf

not all bad then...

B

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> Ann Sanfedele
> Sent: 15 August 2011 23:31
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> Subject: OT aarrgh!
> 
> Had big storms here - perhaps partly to blame from the roller-coaster
> ride of service-no-service on Time Warner Cable...
> 
> "The service has been disrupted in -Your- area - we are working hard to
> ..."
> 
> Both the Tv and INternet went on Sunday afternoon - If I had had their
> phone service, that would have been out too. Glad I kept the land line
> and cell phone is different all together
> 
> couldnt work or watch the PGA golf or movies or play scrabble or go out
> shooting as the weather was fierce...
> about 11 pm it was up for about two hours... got a bit done, then
> it failed again .  On in the morning for a slim hour or so...
> etc...
> 
> One thing if TV is off -- I can still work and do email. or of the
> internet is down and least I could watch Sunday night TV...
> has never happened before here - realise how dependent I am on it.
> 
> So if I'm less chatty for a bit for a day or so you'll know I'm
> trying to catch up with necessary stuff
> 
> end of mini-rant
> 
> ann
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OT aarrgh!

[Ann Sanfedele]

Had big storms here - perhaps partly to blame from the roller-coaster 
ride of service-no-service on Time Warner Cable...


"The service has been disrupted in -Your- area - we are working hard to ..."

Both the Tv and INternet went on Sunday afternoon - If I had had their 
phone service, that would have been out too. Glad I kept the land line

and cell phone is different all together

couldnt work or watch the PGA golf or movies or play scrabble or go out 
shooting as the weather was fierce...

about 11 pm it was up for about two hours... got a bit done, then
it failed again .  On in the morning for a slim hour or so...
etc...

One thing if TV is off -- I can still work and do email. or of the 
internet is down and least I could watch Sunday night TV...

has never happened before here - realise how dependent I am on it.

So if I'm less chatty for a bit for a day or so you'll know I'm
trying to catch up with necessary stuff

end of mini-rant

ann

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Re: PESO - From Our Porch

[steve harley]

On 2011-08-14 19:09 , Rick Womer wrote:

...of our rented cabin:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13989694&size=lg


i experience some relaxation just looking at that


Alas, one of this very photogenic pair of sailboats is now out of the water.


it is a little odd to me to see Sunfish moored in the water; i sailed them a 
few times, and a similar design hundreds of times, and always just launched 
from shore


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Re: PESO - The Chess Match

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 8/15/2011 14:30, Larry Colen wrote:


On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:40 AM, frank theriault wrote:


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/chess-match.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.



Great shot.  For some reason the phone earpiece is very incongruous to me, 
which I like.


cheers,
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He's getting moves from a pro who is watching the game from across the 
park :-)


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Re: OT: the heady feeling of drafting

[John Francis]

Judging by some of the trucks I've seen on the roads out there,
I wouldn't be too sure about that ...

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> Regards,  Bob S.
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> > occasioned by drew's OT running post...
> >
> > did a century ride on the cycle yesterday (about 134 km in a little more
> > than six hours on an MTB on a regular highway :)). the highlight was
> > drafting for about 10km behind a petrol tanker truck at about 35km/h.
> > have seen guys doing it behind faster-moving trucks, but since this was
> > my first time, chose a not-so-fast truck to draft behind. quite a heady
> > and addictive feeling... :)
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Re: PESO - The Chess Match

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From: "P. J. Alling"

On 8/15/2011 9:35 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Excellent, Knarf!  The intense concentration is so clear, and the rendering is 
excellent.



Wandering off topic for a moment:  I loathe those Bluetooth ear thingies. I can 
understand them for some things (like tedious conference calls), but not for constant 
wearing, especially in social situations.  They say to me "any jerk who rings my 
cell phone is more important than you are."



Rick

I just wish that they made them to look like the earpiece that Lt. Uhura
had in Startrek.  Nothing would say "I'm a geek" faster.



If you're going to have one, it should be implanted completely & totally 
internally, and I'd like to offer the services of my friend Mr. 
Ball-Peen Hammer to assist you with the insertion.


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OT poor esthetics, end up in cuffs

[Bruce Walker]

AP Photo Editor: Detaining photographers for taking pictures “with no 
apparent esthetic value” is within Long Beach Police Department policy ...


http://goo.gl/Ev2R4

I would be so screwed in Long Beach.

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Re: PESO from The Black Hat session

[Bruce Walker]

It was completely spontaneous, Bulent.

I try to be prepared for anything interesting that happens in a photo 
session. Going into it, I have a few ideas I want to try but they are 
only sketches.  In this one, as we often do, my wife was assisting. Part 
of her job is to engage the subject/model -- chat with them, joke 
around; stuff I'm not good at when I'm concentrating.  Something Louise 
said to our model made her go into a convulsion of silent laughter ... 
click, click, click.  Photo gold. :)


Thanks very much, Bulent!

-bmw

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Is it possible that her smile was spontaneous and not entirely posed
(even though she knew she was photographed)?
Loved it, by the way.

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2011/8/15 Bruce Walker:

On 11-08-15 10:42 AM, Sam L wrote:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Bruce Walker
  wrote:

I'll have a GESO soon, but meanwhile here's a preview ...

http://goo.gl/cSBdm

(Link is for 500px. Hopefully this will not cause any browser or viewer
upsets. No Flash as far as I can tell.)

That's a great shot!

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-08-15 3:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


On 11-08-15 1:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The Rent Party. 
Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various reasons, they decided to 
close up shop and last night was their final night, with two live bands.

The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed at the 
floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a couple of lights aimed 
at the wall behind them. The blues room was light by four clamp lights, with 
red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two of which were behind the musicians.

I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when you're 
dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. So, all in all, 
the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few shots where I just took 
the bad lighting and tried to see what I could do with it, pushing it even 
further over the edge in post processing.

Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some fun shots 
out of it:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/

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Too Many Photos?


Got it in one. :)

Actually, it's only partly TMP: I am irked by the poor behaviour of the 
Flickriver presentation when the number of shots is large. I try to 
scroll and the Javascript starts its clumsy machinations -- scrolling 
drunkenly back and forth while attempting to preload a bunch of large 
images.


I find I'm happier with the trad grid thumbnail layout these days. I can 
browse the thumbs and choose a couple to inspect. If I like what I see I 
will walk through more of the gallery.  Flickriver (and all the other 
"infinite-list" brethren) doesn't give you that option. Either you wait 
for all the fullsize images to load or you get nothing.


Rant over -- sorry.

I do like LRC24079, LRC24113 and LRC24175.

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Re: Two more PESOs from our trip to Galilee (Boris)

[Rick Womer]

The first shot is nice, but the second one is unusual, as well as very nicely 
composed.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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> Subject: Re: Two more PESOs from our trip to Galilee (Boris)
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> Boris,
> How long of an exposure did you use?
> The moon in the 2nd shot seems to show lots of motion
> blur.
> I like the branch in the shot better than the other one you
> offered here.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Boris Liberman 
> wrote:
> > I may have rushed my first PESOs from the trip as
> these two apparently
> > continue the motifs from the previous ones...
> >
> > #33 - Moon sunrise:
> > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/08/peso-2011-33-moon-sunrise.html
> > #34 - Just before the moon disappeared:
> > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/08/peso-2011-34-just-before-moon.html
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> > Be brutal and honest.
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Re: Two more PESOs from our trip to Galilee (Boris)

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Boris,
How long of an exposure did you use?
The moon in the 2nd shot seems to show lots of motion blur.
I like the branch in the shot better than the other one you offered here.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
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> continue the motifs from the previous ones...
>
> #33 - Moon sunrise:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/08/peso-2011-33-moon-sunrise.html
> #34 - Just before the moon disappeared:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/08/peso-2011-34-just-before-moon.html
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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

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Great, eye-catching and pleasing image. I believe your tweak is in the
right direction.

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2011/8/15 Walt Gilbert :
> Thanks, Bob!
>
> I was actually a little distracted by those highlights myself.  I'm pretty
> ham-fisted when it comes to tweaking specific areas of images,
> unfortunately.  In fact, I'm a bit of a dunce when it comes to most of the
> functions of Photoshop and other similar software.  Here's my attempt at
> toning down those highlights:
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6045587075/
>
> I think the idea is much better than my execution would suggest.
>
> Thanks for the input, in any event.  I'll keep tweaking it until I get a
> better blending of the colors.
>
> -- Walt
>
> On 8/15/2011 9:57 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Walt,
>> Very pretty.
>> If your inclined to photoshop,
>> you might tone down the brightness of the highlights above left of the
>> blossom.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the front
>>> yard this evening.  All but about a dozen or so blossoms are gone on this
>>> tree, and I just happened to catch this one out of the corner of my eye
>>> from
>>> a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take.  And it looked like
>>> a
>>> good bokeh opportunity.
>>>
>>> Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
>>> ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual
>>>
>>> Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
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Re: PESO from The Black Hat session

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Is it possible that her smile was spontaneous and not entirely posed
(even though she knew she was photographed)?
Loved it, by the way.

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2011/8/15 Bruce Walker :
> On 11-08-15 10:42 AM, Sam L wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Bruce Walker
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll have a GESO soon, but meanwhile here's a preview ...
>>>
>>>    http://goo.gl/cSBdm
>>>
>>> (Link is for 500px. Hopefully this will not cause any browser or viewer
>>> upsets. No Flash as far as I can tell.)
>>
>> That's a great shot!
>>
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> Thank you, Sam.
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Re: PAW84 - Landing

[Bulent Celasun]

Perfect moment!
Highly inviting for a repeat performance;)

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2011/8/15 DagT :
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K-5, DA*16-50@45mm, 1/200s, f/7.1, ISO100.
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Re: PESO - The Chess Match

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Their hands speak...

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2011/8/15 frank theriault :
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/chess-match.html
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Re: PESO : Three images sharing something in common...

[steve harley]

On 2011-08-14 14:16 , Bulent Celasun wrote:

These are from a recent trip to a farm in Daday, Kastamonu, Turkey.

Although I enjoyed the visit immensely, my mood was prone to depression.
These are a few of the images that still make me feel like myself...

A door:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015192&size=lg

Remains of a fence:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015232&size=lg

Another fence. Leading somewhere... Sepia toned.
Perhaps the one that appeals to me more...
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015217&size=lg

Do you think they somehow work as a whole?


the door i like instantly, intriguing rhythm

the first fence, i would like to see much larger, since the abundance of detail 
seems to draw me in but frustrate me (even at the generous size you present 
online); i wouldn't see the fence without your note


the second fence is pleasant, even sleepy, but not as interesting as the 
others; but for my fascination at a glimpse of Turkish barbed wire, it could 
work just as well at a very small size


as a series, and with your preamble, i sense a progression of mood that i don't 
fully understand, and the last one doesn't fit as well for me (not just because 
of the sepia tone) -- order, chaos, contentment?


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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

[Paul Stenquist]

I like to hear that. Thanks much, Dave.

On Aug 15, 2011, at 2:58 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> One of the best so far.
> 
> Dave
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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

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Thanks for your comments on both pics, Frank. Much appreciated.
Paul
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> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Paul Stenquist
>  wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020256&size=lg
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> Perfect!
> 
> The reflections work beautifully, as does Grace's smile and the doggie
> who (apparently) wanted to go home with her.
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> As someone else said, a winner!
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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

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Thanks Bob. In truth, the Mopar shoot beat the crap out of me. Up and down the 
ladder, laying on the ground, swapping lenses, up and down again. Nine cars 
Friday, shooting 9 am to 7:30 pm. (I would liked to have started earlier and 
finished later for the light, but you takes hat you can get.) Fortunately, half 
of Saturday was rained out, so I only had to shoot four, and all of Sunday was 
rained out. But it was nice to get out with Grace on Sunday afternoon and shoot 
some stuff for the plain old hell of it.
Paul


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> Paul,
> Between this one and Eggplant Salute, you're on a roll.
> Doing that MOPAR stuff get you reved up?
> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020256&size=lg

Great shot.

I can just imagine in a few years time, Grace won't be able to travel any place 
in the world without some scruffy old Pentax photographer recognizing her on 
the street.


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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

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Thanks much, Bruce. Grace likes it, and approved its release:-).
Paul
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> Ditto! That's a gorgeous shot, Paul. A real winner by my reckoning.
> 
> -bmw
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>> Being the sucker for dogs, kids, and kids with dogs that I am, I have to say 
>> I really like that shot.  It's kind of moving.
>> 
>> -- Walt
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Re: PESO - Illuminated Forest

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On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Tom C wrote:

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020993
> 
> Taken last Friday on the way home from work.

Nice

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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

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Thanks Walt. 
On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> Being the sucker for dogs, kids, and kids with dogs that I am, I have to say 
> I really like that shot.  It's kind of moving.
> 
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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

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On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:56 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Well done i like them all.

Thanks.


> 
> Dave
> 
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The Rent 
>> Party. Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various reasons, they 
>> decided to close up shop and last night was their final night, with two live 
>> bands.
>> 
>> The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed at the 
>> floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a couple of lights 
>> aimed at the wall behind them. The blues room was light by four clamp 
>> lights, with red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two of which were behind the 
>> musicians.
>> 
>> I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when you're 
>> dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. So, all in all, 
>> the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few shots where I just 
>> took the bad lighting and tried to see what I could do with it, pushing it 
>> even further over the edge in post processing.
>> 
>> Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some fun 
>> shots out of it:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/
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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> On 11-08-15 1:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The Rent 
>> Party. Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various reasons, they 
>> decided to close up shop and last night was their final night, with two live 
>> bands.
>> 
>> The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed at the 
>> floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a couple of lights 
>> aimed at the wall behind them. The blues room was light by four clamp 
>> lights, with red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two of which were behind the 
>> musicians.
>> 
>> I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when you're 
>> dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. So, all in all, 
>> the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few shots where I just 
>> took the bad lighting and tried to see what I could do with it, pushing it 
>> even further over the edge in post processing.
>> 
>> Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some fun 
>> shots out of it:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/
>> 
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> TMP

Too Many Photos?

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PESO - Illuminated Forest

[Tom C]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020993

Taken last Friday on the way home from work.

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Re: PAW84 - Landing

[steve harley]

On 2011-08-14 16:07 , DagT wrote:

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html


good timing; skinny kid; fun to look at the shapes in the water

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Re: PESO : An old wheel

[David J Brooks]

Nice. Great texture. Looks like he picked up a nail.

Dave

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> http://500px.com/photo/1578591
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> This is a composite (focus blending) using three images.
> Post processing involved making the scene look more like how I felt it
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Re: PAW84 - Landing

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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> That's wonderful, Dag. Motion, water, lovely color ... very nice!

Ditto

Dave
>
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> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 3:07 PM, DagT  wrote:
>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> K-5, DA*16-50@45mm, 1/200s, f/7.1, ISO100.
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Great lighting

Dave

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> When I got home from dancing in SF at about 3:30 this morning PG&E was 
> working in my front yard. Trucks right in front of my house, someone was 
> doing something in my driveway. So, of course, I grabbed my camera to take 
> some pictures, because anybody can get shots of people working at 3:30 in the 
> afternoon. I think the K-5 handled the challenging light pretty well. Most of 
> them were shot on a monopod.
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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

[David J Brooks]

One of the best so far.

Dave

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Re: PESO - Eggplant Salute

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Well done all the components are well layed out

Dave

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

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Well done i like them all.

Dave

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The Rent 
> Party. Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various reasons, they 
> decided to close up shop and last night was their final night, with two live 
> bands.
>
> The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed at the 
> floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a couple of lights 
> aimed at the wall behind them. The blues room was light by four clamp lights, 
> with red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two of which were behind the musicians.
>
> I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when you're 
> dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. So, all in all, 
> the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few shots where I just took 
> the bad lighting and tried to see what I could do with it, pushing it even 
> further over the edge in post processing.
>
> Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some fun 
> shots out of it:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/
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Re: PESO : Three images sharing something in common...

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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Bulent Celasun
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> These are from a recent trip to a farm in Daday, Kastamonu, Turkey.
>
> Although I enjoyed the visit immensely, my mood was prone to depression.
> These are a few of the images that still make me feel like myself...
>
> A door:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015192&size=lg

Nice i like the texture and patterns
>
> Remains of a fence:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015232&size=lg

Seems to busy
>
> Another fence. Leading somewhere... Sepia toned.
> Perhaps the one that appeals to me more...
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015217&size=lg

Like this one better.

Dave
>
> Do you think they somehow work as a whole?
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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

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On 11-08-15 1:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The Rent Party. 
Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various reasons, they decided to 
close up shop and last night was their final night, with two live bands.

The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed at the 
floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a couple of lights aimed 
at the wall behind them. The blues room was light by four clamp lights, with 
red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two of which were behind the musicians.

I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when you're 
dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. So, all in all, 
the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few shots where I just took 
the bad lighting and tried to see what I could do with it, pushing it even 
further over the edge in post processing.

Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some fun shots 
out of it:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/

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:)

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

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On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> Some quick advice, Walt.
> 
> Switch away from matrix metering; go with center-weighted or spot. Chances 
> are the stage lights are focused on the performers, so they're the brightest 
> things in the room.
> 
> If you go spot metering, meter off of faces. They are close enough to 18% 
> grey so the meter is about right.
> 
> Raise the ISO higher than you think is reasonable. :)  Either the camera's 
> ISO is great (eg K-5, K-x etc.) or you can use Lightroom or a noise-reduction 
> plugin, or simply go black and white and call the grain art.
> 
> Take the fastest lens(es) you've got. Learn to like (or at least get along 
> with) their field of view.
> 
> If the action is too fast for manual focusing, pre-focus on a point and snap 
> when the action gets to that point. Be prepared to have a very small keeper 
> rate.


This is all great advice.


> 
> -bmw
> 
> On 11-08-15 8:06 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
>> You got some great shots in there, Larry -- 
>> 20110813-LRC24134.jpg 
>>  has to be my 
>> favorite of the bunch and20110813-LRC24174.jpg 
>>  is a close 2nd.
>> 
>> I really need to learn how to work better in mixed lighting situations.  
>> I've lost some potentially nice shots because I don't know what's going to 
>> freak out the metering.
>> 
>> I wish I could've stayed out in CA a while longer.  There's just so much to 
>> photograph out there.
>> 
>> -- Walt
>> 
>> On 8/15/2011 12:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The Rent 
>>> Party. Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various reasons, they 
>>> decided to close up shop and last night was their final night, with two 
>>> live bands.
>>> 
>>> The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed at 
>>> the floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a couple of 
>>> lights aimed at the wall behind them. The blues room was light by four 
>>> clamp lights, with red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two of which were 
>>> behind the musicians.
>>> 
>>> I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when you're 
>>> dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. So, all in 
>>> all, the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few shots where I 
>>> just took the bad lighting and tried to see what I could do with it, 
>>> pushing it even further over the edge in post processing.
>>> 
>>> Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some fun 
>>> shots out of it:
>>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OT: the heady feeling of drafting

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Subash wrote:

> occasioned by drew's OT running post...
> 
> did a century ride on the cycle yesterday (about 134 km in a little more

Interesting that you call that a century.  The one ride I did of that length 
they called a metric double.

> than six hours on an MTB on a regular highway :)). the highlight was
> drafting for about 10km behind a petrol tanker truck at about 35km/h.
> have seen guys doing it behind faster-moving trucks, but since this was
> my first time, chose a not-so-fast truck to draft behind. quite a heady
> and addictive feeling... :)

I've never drafted a truck, but back in college when I did longer rides, I did 
a lot of wheelsucking.

Perhaps the best one was the time I rode the Davis Double Century solo.  My 
goal was to be back by dark, and when I was about 50 miles out it looked like 
there was no way I was going to make it. Then a tandem went past like I was 
standing still, so I asked if I could draft. They said "no problem" and I 
jumped in behind them.  Within a couple of miles the draft line had grown to 
about 30 bikes.

The reason the tandem was running so late was  that at the start of the ride 
there are all these huge packs and draft lines of 50, maybe 150 bikes. Every 
year, someone will see a cop car at one of the farm road intersections and 
before they notice the cop is controlling traffic will slam on their brakes to 
keep from running the stop sign that they were going to blow off.  It is not a 
good thing when someone suddenly slams on their brakes in the middle of a draft 
line.

On another ride (I think it was the metric double that I did without training, 
on a bike without a front derailleur, I was chatting up a girl I had caught up 
with and she said she needed to back off the pace.  I said she could draft me 
if she wanted. With her back there I slipped into the zone and pretty much 
forgot about everything until a while later, I heard a voice saying "you've 
pulled the line for a quite a while, I can lead if you want". I looked back and 
there was a long draft line behind me.

  
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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

[Bruce Walker]

Some quick advice, Walt.

Switch away from matrix metering; go with center-weighted or spot. 
Chances are the stage lights are focused on the performers, so they're 
the brightest things in the room.


If you go spot metering, meter off of faces. They are close enough to 
18% grey so the meter is about right.


Raise the ISO higher than you think is reasonable. :)  Either the 
camera's ISO is great (eg K-5, K-x etc.) or you can use Lightroom or a 
noise-reduction plugin, or simply go black and white and call the grain art.


Take the fastest lens(es) you've got. Learn to like (or at least get 
along with) their field of view.


If the action is too fast for manual focusing, pre-focus on a point and 
snap when the action gets to that point. Be prepared to have a very 
small keeper rate.


-bmw

On 11-08-15 8:06 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
You got some great shots in there, Larry -- 
20110813-LRC24134.jpg 
 has to be my 
favorite of the bunch and20110813-LRC24174.jpg 
 is a close 2nd.


I really need to learn how to work better in mixed lighting 
situations.  I've lost some potentially nice shots because I don't 
know what's going to freak out the metering.


I wish I could've stayed out in CA a while longer.  There's just so 
much to photograph out there.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2011 12:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The 
Rent Party. Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various 
reasons, they decided to close up shop and last night was their final 
night, with two live bands.


The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed 
at the floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a 
couple of lights aimed at the wall behind them. The blues room was 
light by four clamp lights, with red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two 
of which were behind the musicians.


I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when 
you're dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. 
So, all in all, the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few 
shots where I just took the bad lighting and tried to see what I 
could do with it, pushing it even further over the edge in post 
processing.


Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some 
fun shots out of it:

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Re: PESO - The Chess Match

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On Aug 15, 2011, at 4:40 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/chess-match.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 

Great shot.  For some reason the phone earpiece is very incongruous to me, 
which I like.

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Re: OT: the heady feeling of drafting

[Drew]

My father-in-law told me once of an incident that happened to him  
he was bus driver back in the days when town buses had the open platform 
at the rear where passengers could jump on and off.   He was bringing a 
bus back to the main depot from one of the smaller ones, as he was not 
in service he was travelling about 40 mph along a long straight road, he 
put the indicator on and braked to turn into the depot. There was a 
horrible clatter and cyclist and his bike were suddenly right up the 
front of the bus next to him in the driver's seat.  The poor chap had 
been drafting him but couldn't get out of the way when he braked and 
'used' the open platform at the rear to get on-board.  He apparently 
'only' broke his leg and got cuts and bruises.


Drew.



On 15/08/11 15:53, Bob Sullivan wrote:

S,  Only problem is his brakes are probably better than yours...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Subash  wrote:

occasioned by drew's OT running post...

did a century ride on the cycle yesterday (about 134 km in a little more
than six hours on an MTB on a regular highway :)). the highlight was
drafting for about 10km behind a petrol tanker truck at about 35km/h.
have seen guys doing it behind faster-moving trucks, but since this was
my first time, chose a not-so-fast truck to draft behind. quite a heady
and addictive feeling... :)

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RE: the heady feeling of drafting

[Bob W]

> did a century ride on the cycle yesterday (about 134 km in a little
> more
> than six hours on an MTB on a regular highway :)). the highlight was
> drafting for about 10km behind a petrol tanker truck at about 35km/h.
> have seen guys doing it behind faster-moving trucks, but since this was
> my first time, chose a not-so-fast truck to draft behind. quite a heady
> and addictive feeling... :)
> 
> --
> regards, subash

Fastest I've been on my bike is 36mph, which I clocked on my GPS on a lovely
long downhill in Brittany 2-3 years ago. I could have gone faster, but I got
so shit scared that I slowed right down. I'll never win the TdF.

I did a similar pace a couple of years before that on a Roman road leading
into Dorchester. From the top of Eggardon Hill, which is an Iron Age
hillfort at about 250m, there's a long shallow descent to 70m over 10km to
just outside Dorchester. The road is more or less dead straight, and
deserted. An exhilarating ride. 

The next day I fell off at 2mph and broke my wrist.

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Re: geso the last night of the Rent Party

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On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:06 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> You got some great shots in there, Larry -- 
> 20110813-LRC24134.jpg 
>  has to be my favorite 
> of the bunch and20110813-LRC24174.jpg 
>  is a close 2nd.

Thanks.

> 
> I really need to learn how to work better in mixed lighting situations.  I've 
> lost some potentially nice shots because I don't know what's going to freak 
> out the metering.

That's only a problem if you trust the metering.  The short answer is that 
bright lights in the photo will freak out the metering, so you have to go to 
manual (easy to do with K and M lenses), meter on what you care about, then 
take a test shot without the bright area in the frame, chimping the histogram.

I take advantage of digital being so cheap by using my camera as a hand held 
light meter.  I almost always take a quick test, throwaway, shot to check the 
metering, and to look for anything else I forgot.

> 
> I wish I could've stayed out in CA a while longer.  There's just so much to 
> photograph out there.

Come back again sometime soon.

> 
> -- Walt
> 
> On 8/15/2011 12:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> For the past two years there's been a weekly dance in SF called The Rent 
>> Party. Lindy hop in one room, Blues in another.  For various reasons, they 
>> decided to close up shop and last night was their final night, with two live 
>> bands.
>> 
>> The lindy room had a couple of lights in the middle of the room aimed at the 
>> floor, but the musicians were primarily illuminated by a couple of lights 
>> aimed at the wall behind them. The blues room was light by four clamp 
>> lights, with red bulbs bounced off the walls. Two of which were behind the 
>> musicians.
>> 
>> I also didn't want to use flash, because it's rather obnoxious when you're 
>> dancing in a dark room to have a strobe go off in your face. So, all in all, 
>> the lighting was quite challenging.  There were a few shots where I just 
>> took the bad lighting and tried to see what I could do with it, pushing it 
>> even further over the edge in post processing.
>> 
>> Not everything is quite as sharp as I'd like, but I think I got some fun 
>> shots out of it:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627311775827/
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO : Three images sharing something in common...

[Walt Gilbert]

I agree with Ann.  The door really stands out from the other two.  I 
like them all, but the first one grabs my attention right away.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2011 1:13 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I think the first one stands alone

ann

On 8/14/2011 16:16, Bulent Celasun wrote:

These are from a recent trip to a farm in Daday, Kastamonu, Turkey.

Although I enjoyed the visit immensely, my mood was prone to depression.
These are a few of the images that still make me feel like myself...

A door:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015192&size=lg

Remains of a fence:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015232&size=lg

Another fence. Leading somewhere... Sepia toned.
Perhaps the one that appeals to me more...
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015217&size=lg

Do you think they somehow work as a whole?

Bulent
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Re: PESO : Three images sharing something in common...

[Ann Sanfedele]

I think the first one stands alone

ann

On 8/14/2011 16:16, Bulent Celasun wrote:

These are from a recent trip to a farm in Daday, Kastamonu, Turkey.

Although I enjoyed the visit immensely, my mood was prone to depression.
These are a few of the images that still make me feel like myself...

A door:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015192&size=lg

Remains of a fence:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015232&size=lg

Another fence. Leading somewhere... Sepia toned.
Perhaps the one that appeals to me more...
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14015217&size=lg

Do you think they somehow work as a whole?

Bulent
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RE: the heady feeling of drafting

[Bob W]

> occasioned by drew's OT running post...
> 
> did a century ride on the cycle yesterday (about 134 km in a little
> more
> than six hours on an MTB on a regular highway :)). the highlight was
> drafting for about 10km behind a petrol tanker truck at about 35km/h.
> have seen guys doing it behind faster-moving trucks, but since this was
> my first time, chose a not-so-fast truck to draft behind. quite a heady
> and addictive feeling... :)
> 
> --
> regards, subash

that's a good average pace, especially on a MTB.

B


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Re: PESO - The Chess Match

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-08-15 7:40 AM, frank theriault wrote:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/chess-match.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



That's a great one, Frank. I really like your close framing.

But I think the guy on the right may be just phoning it in.

-bmw

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Re: Photographing sunsets - help wanted

[John Sessoms]

From: Cotty


On 14/8/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

Ok, so now it says:

"Sorry, the video at this URL has either been deleted or never existed
in the first place."

Apologies!

I recently had to upgrade my account to pro in order to host commercial
videos for clients to see. They rearranged all my video profiles to hidden.

New link:



password:  pdml

HTH


Oh yeah, I remember that one.

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Two more PESOs from our trip to Galilee (Boris)

[Boris Liberman]

I may have rushed my first PESOs from the trip as these two apparently
continue the motifs from the previous ones...

#33 - Moon sunrise:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/08/peso-2011-33-moon-sunrise.html
#34 - Just before the moon disappeared:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/08/peso-2011-34-just-before-moon.html

Be brutal and honest.

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Re: PESO from The Black Hat session

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-08-15 10:42 AM, Sam L wrote:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

I'll have a GESO soon, but meanwhile here's a preview ...

http://goo.gl/cSBdm

(Link is for 500px. Hopefully this will not cause any browser or viewer
upsets. No Flash as far as I can tell.)

That's a great shot!

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Thank you, Sam.

-bmw

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Re: PAW--Week 32--B-Boys Battle at Korean Fest

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> Really behind on PDML, but I'll catch up.  It's 3:00 a.m. here; I just 
> finished figuring out iMovie.  In addition to my still image for this week, I 
> used the video feature on the K-5 and made a clip of some young men 
> breakdancing.  They're really cute--very nimble!  From iMovie I uploaded to 
> my youtube account, then sent the image and link to my posterous paw blog.  I 
> think I'm about social media blogged out.  Anyway, scroll down to watch the 
> movie; my favorite dancer is the last one in the gray pants.
>
> http://aguilapaw.posterous.com

 Wonderful timing!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Eggplant Salute

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist
 wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020219&size=lg

Very cool!

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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

[Bob Sullivan]

Paul,
Between this one and Eggplant Salute, you're on a roll.
Doing that MOPAR stuff get you reved up?
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> Gorgeous colour, Walt. You got the confluence of just the right conditions
> here. Timing is important! :)

I agree with Bruce.

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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Paul Stenquist
 wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020256&size=lg

Perfect!

The reflections work beautifully, as does Grace's smile and the doggie
who (apparently) wanted to go home with her.

As someone else said, a winner!

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Re: PESO - Good Weather for Ducks

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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> Wow, Frank!
>
> That's a great capture.  I love how the surface of the water looks like
> mercury.  (I hope it isn't mercury.)

Thanks to everyone who commented.  I was kind of lucky, because it
rained a bit, then stopped.  I was on my way home as it looked like it
might start up again and passed by this pond when the rain started up
again very gently, so there were only these few drops on the water.  I
snapped about 6 shots (two sets of brackets of three) and a few
seconds later it started raining heavier.  I continued to snap, but I
knew that there would be so many rain drops on the water that those
latter shots wouldn't be compelling.

Subsequent viewing proved me right.

;-)

Luckily, one of the six worked - just the right amount of drops in the
right places.  Sometimes it's just about "being there"...

;-)

Thanks again.  Glad you all liked.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - The Chess Match

[Paul Stenquist]

You caught them at an opportune moment. Nicely done.
Paul
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> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/chess-match.html
> 
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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

[Bruce Walker]

Ditto! That's a gorgeous shot, Paul. A real winner by my reckoning.

-bmw

On 11-08-15 11:37 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
Being the sucker for dogs, kids, and kids with dogs that I am, I have 
to say I really like that shot.  It's kind of moving.


-- Walt

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Re: PESO - Doggy in the Window

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Being the sucker for dogs, kids, and kids with dogs that I am, I have to 
say I really like that shot.  It's kind of moving.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2011 10:32 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

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Re: PESO - The Chess Match

[P. J. Alling]

On 8/15/2011 9:35 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Excellent, Knarf!  The intense concentration is so clear, and the rendering is 
excellent.



Wandering off topic for a moment:  I loathe those Bluetooth ear thingies. I can 
understand them for some things (like tedious conference calls), but not for constant 
wearing, especially in social situations.  They say to me "any jerk who rings my 
cell phone is more important than you are."



Rick


I just wish that they made them to look like the earpiece that Lt. Uhura 
had in Startrek.  Nothing would say "I'm a geek" faster.





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From: frank theriault
Subject: PESO - The Chess Match
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 7:40 AM
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/chess-match.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Walt Gilbert]

On 8/15/2011 10:20 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
I recommend you go crazy now and work it out of your system. :)  I'm 
an advocate of indulging yourself and discovering the extreme limits 
so you'll have a better appreciation for subtlety and restraint later on.

You know . . . that's just crazy enough to work!


I'm still in the recovering bokehaholic phase myself.
That's one thing I love about photography -- how there's always another 
component of it to be obsessed with.

-bmw


Thanks for the advice!  You're now officially an enabler.  How do you 
sleep at night?


-- Walt


On 11-08-15 10:20 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Thank you, Rick.

I've wanted to learn the art of using bokeh well for a while now.  
I'm going to try to not get carried away with it, but it does make 
for a nice challenge in trying to incorporate it while composing the 
shot, and a bit of a thrill when it works.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2011 8:29 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
Everything works in this shot, Walt--composition, lighting, DOF, 
bokeh. Lovely.


Rick

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From: Walt Gilbert
Subject: PESO: Mimosa Sunset
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 2:13 AM
Hi all,

I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around
in the front yard this evening.  All but about a dozen
or so blossoms are gone on this tree, and I just happened to
catch this one out of the corner of my eye from a pretty
good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take.  And it
looked like a good bokeh opportunity.

Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual

Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.

Best,

Walt

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PESO - Doggy in the Window

[Paul Stenquist]

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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks, Bob!

I was actually a little distracted by those highlights myself.  I'm 
pretty ham-fisted when it comes to tweaking specific areas of images, 
unfortunately.  In fact, I'm a bit of a dunce when it comes to most of 
the functions of Photoshop and other similar software.  Here's my 
attempt at toning down those highlights:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6045587075/

I think the idea is much better than my execution would suggest.

Thanks for the input, in any event.  I'll keep tweaking it until I get a 
better blending of the colors.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2011 9:57 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Walt,
Very pretty.
If your inclined to photoshop,
you might tone down the brightness of the highlights above left of the blossom.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Hi all,

I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the front
yard this evening.  All but about a dozen or so blossoms are gone on this
tree, and I just happened to catch this one out of the corner of my eye from
a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take.  And it looked like a
good bokeh opportunity.

Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual

Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.

Best,

Walt

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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Bruce Walker]

I recommend you go crazy now and work it out of your system. :)  I'm an 
advocate of indulging yourself and discovering the extreme limits so 
you'll have a better appreciation for subtlety and restraint later on.


I'm still in the recovering bokehaholic phase myself.

-bmw

On 11-08-15 10:20 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Thank you, Rick.

I've wanted to learn the art of using bokeh well for a while now.  I'm 
going to try to not get carried away with it, but it does make for a 
nice challenge in trying to incorporate it while composing the shot, 
and a bit of a thrill when it works.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2011 8:29 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
Everything works in this shot, Walt--composition, lighting, DOF, 
bokeh. Lovely.


Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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From: Walt Gilbert
Subject: PESO: Mimosa Sunset
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 2:13 AM
Hi all,

I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around
in the front yard this evening.  All but about a dozen
or so blossoms are gone on this tree, and I just happened to
catch this one out of the corner of my eye from a pretty
good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take.  And it
looked like a good bokeh opportunity.

Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual

Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.

Best,

Walt

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PESO - Eggplant Salute

[Paul Stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14020219&size=lg

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Re: PESO: Mimosa Sunset

[Bob Sullivan]

Walt,
Very pretty.
If your inclined to photoshop,
you might tone down the brightness of the highlights above left of the blossom.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I grabbed this shot this evening while I was walking around in the front
> yard this evening.  All but about a dozen or so blossoms are gone on this
> tree, and I just happened to catch this one out of the corner of my eye from
> a pretty good distance -- say, 25 feet give or take.  And it looked like a
> good bokeh opportunity.
>
> Again, I had the K-50/1.4 on the K-x:
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6044899692/
> ISO 560, 1/500 sec, f/3.5, Manual
>
> Any input appreciated.  So do as you will.
>
> Best,
>
> Walt
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Re: OT: the heady feeling of drafting

[Bob Sullivan]

S,  Only problem is his brakes are probably better than yours...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Subash  wrote:
> occasioned by drew's OT running post...
>
> did a century ride on the cycle yesterday (about 134 km in a little more
> than six hours on an MTB on a regular highway :)). the highlight was
> drafting for about 10km behind a petrol tanker truck at about 35km/h.
> have seen guys doing it behind faster-moving trucks, but since this was
> my first time, chose a not-so-fast truck to draft behind. quite a heady
> and addictive feeling... :)
>
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Re: PAW--Week 32--B-Boys Battle at Korean Fest

[Bob Sullivan]

Christine,
Great movie from the K-5, and the last guy has some great gymnastics moves.
He's be great on a pommel horse or floor exercises.
3 am and iMovie?  Wow!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> Great timing on the first.  Agreed...the third dancer is very talented.  The
> K-5 is a wonderful tool, isn't it.
>
> -p
>
> On 8/15/2011 3:02 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> Really behind on PDML, but I'll catch up.  It's 3:00 a.m. here; I just
>> finished figuring out iMovie.  In addition to my still image for this week,
>> I used the video feature on the K-5 and made a clip of some young men
>> breakdancing.  They're really cute--very nimble!  From iMovie I uploaded to
>> my youtube account, then sent the image and link to my posterous paw blog.
>>  I think I'm about social media blogged out.  Anyway, scroll down to watch
>> the movie; my favorite dancer is the last one in the gray pants.
>>
>> http://aguilapaw.posterous.com
>>
>> Cheers, Christine
>>
>>
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Re: PESO from The Black Hat session

[Sam L]

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I'll have a GESO soon, but meanwhile here's a preview ...
>
>    http://goo.gl/cSBdm
>
> (Link is for 500px. Hopefully this will not cause any browser or viewer
> upsets. No Flash as far as I can tell.)
>


That's a great shot!


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