Re: The Hippocratic oath of photography.

[David Mann]

On Oct 9, 2011, at 8:18 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> http://icplibrary.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/hippocratic-oath-of-a-photographer/
> 
> I got this from TOP, but I might have stumbled on it by myself, so I figure 
> why give a link to Johnston.  Heck I'm not getting paid for it.

It's the publishers who need one of these.

The other day we had a nutcase try to jump from the public gallery into the 
debating chamber in Parliament.  Photographs of the public gallery are 
expressly forbidden, to ensure that anyone who does cause a fuss (protests etc) 
will not get media attention, and the point of this rule is to discourage them.

Well, one of our country's biggest newspapers got a photo of this guy being 
restrained and published it.  And now they're whining like spoiled little 
children after being punished.  The Speaker of the House is one person you 
don't screw with.  Anyone who can keep a room full of politicians under control 
is not going to take any crap from an editor.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10757763

Cheers,
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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[David Mann]

On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:53 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> A lens cap provides no protection while you are actually taking photographs. 
> The lens hood does not always adequately protect the front element.
> 
> I slipped & fell while taking photographs. The camera hit the ground lens 
> first.
> 
> The lens did not have a filter. I put a bad ding (like a chipped car 
> windshield) in the front glass that showed up in every photo I subsequently 
> took with that lens, so that I ended up having to replace it.

IMHO a hood can offer plenty of protection as whatever you land on will need to 
either destroy the hood or protrude into it to reach the glass (except maybe 
those collapsible rubber ones).  I know this sort of thing has been discussed 
here a few times and I wouldn't be surprised if the usual level of consensus 
resulted.

I'm curious now to know what it costs to replace a front element in addition to 
the near-inevitable barrel / filter ring repairs.  I know this would vary a lot 
with the exact lens.

> I have had other accidents where I banged up the filter, but the the lens 
> itself was not damaged.

I've had a few little accidents too but only three (I think) with damage, two 
of which were just broken hoods.

The only thing worse than breaking your own gear is breaking someone else's.  I 
dropped a Pentax 67 400mm lens (the old outer-bayonet model) in the shop once.  
A heart stopping moment but it landed in a box of soft camera cases.

Cheers,
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Re: October PUG now available for your viewing pleasure

[Subash]

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:28:03 -0400
Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Love getting out onthe road and tese were all wonderfully evocative
> of that experience..

> >> You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/

another concurrer here. enjoyed the gallery. so many roads, so little
time :)

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PESO: Watch Dog

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=148

Comments and criticisms invited.

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Re: GESO: Photo walk butterflies

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks, Ann.

I guess my favorite would have to be 3262, since it's the same kind of 
butterfly, but I managed to catch it with its wings spread, just as it 
was taking flight.  I had a really hard time catching one like that, 
since they tend to keep them closed when they're at rest.


And, yes, they were tough today, as it was a pretty warm day here for 
October -- mid-80's -- so they were darting around a lot and generally 
active.


But, I do like the one you picked, too.  It seemed to have the best 
detail of all the ones I took.


Thanks again!

-- Walt

On 10/8/2011 10:24 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I like this one best

IMGP3282

but they are all quite nice...

butterflies can be tough,too

ann




On 10/8/2011 17:03, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

Took Mr. Larry's K100Ds out with the Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 for a
couple of hours today -- and, man, do I like that combination! I managed
to finally get some butterfly images this year.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157627847489506/

I tell you, that lens is the best $20 I've ever spent. It's not pretty,
and there's no snap whatsoever in the aperture. But, fortunately, it's a
functional A lens, and I just love the images it produces.

Any thoughts, comments and/or critiques are most welcome.

(Thanks again, Larry! I hope I don't "lose" your camera!)

-- Walt






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Re: October PUG now available for your viewing pleasure

[Ann Sanfedele]

I concur with the other concurrers

Love getting out onthe road and tese were all wonderfully evocative of 
that experience..


ann (yeah I know, I ain't been around much)



On 10/7/2011 20:56, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

I concur with Stan

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On Oct 7, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

The October PUG is now up.  As usual, many and varied interpretations
of the theme but Bran's interpretation takes the prize for the most
innovative.  Only one 'Open Gallery' submission this month but a vivid
one it is.

You'll find the gallery here (as usual):

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
there)

Last month a few people had problems viewing the gallery.  We think
that's been fixed but if you are still having problems, please say so.

+

Top quality from start to finish. Very fine work!

stan


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Re: GESO: Photo walk butterflies

[Ann Sanfedele]

I like this one best

IMGP3282

but they are all quite nice...

butterflies can be tough,too

ann




On 10/8/2011 17:03, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

Took Mr. Larry's K100Ds out with the Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 for a
couple of hours today -- and, man, do I like that combination! I managed
to finally get some butterfly images this year.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157627847489506/

I tell you, that lens is the best $20 I've ever spent. It's not pretty,
and there's no snap whatsoever in the aperture. But, fortunately, it's a
functional A lens, and I just love the images it produces.

Any thoughts, comments and/or critiques are most welcome.

(Thanks again, Larry! I hope I don't "lose" your camera!)

-- Walt



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Re: The Hippocratic oath of photography.

[Stan Halpin]

On Oct 8, 2011, at 3:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> http://icplibrary.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/hippocratic-oath-of-a-photographer/
> 
> I got this from TOP, but I might have stumbled on it by myself, so I figure 
> why give a link to Johnston.  Heck I'm not getting paid for it.
> 

Who is this guy and why is he dissing my approach to photography!?!  (;-)>

stan


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Re: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

[Jack Davis]

If by bullets, they would more likely be healing exit wounds. 

Jack 

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Subject: Re: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

I've been warned to not walk in the woods during deer season with a 
flash of anything white on my chest, leading me to believe that most 
White Tails are shot in the A$$.

I downloaded the images and made them as large as I could on my monitor 
as I could before they began to break down, and the "wounds" looked more 
like growths.

On 10/8/2011 6:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Those "wounds"(?) are near the heart/lung area; a hunter's popular target.
>
> Jack
> .
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel J. Matyola
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 2:45 PM
> Subject: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14358779
> This buck has been our neighborhood for a while.  He has several
> protuberances on his side that are quite ugly.  I'm not sure if that
> is a disease of some kind or the result of an injury.  The space
> between the two large swellings suggests it might have been caused by
> the horns of another buck, but I am not certain.
>
> If anyone knows more about dee than I, I would appreciate your thoughts.
>
> Dan
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>


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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[Stan Halpin]

On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:29 PM, steve harley wrote:

> on 2011-10-06 18:33 Stan Halpin wrote
>> I am not at all clear on the reasons for putting anything over the LCD.
> 
> i carry my camera on a strap that hangs at hip level; i try to avoid scraping 
> it, but i sometimes scramble on rocks or weed the garden with my camera, and 
> it is often enough that the screen rubs something like a backpack waistbelt 
> buckle or a jacket zipper or sometimes worse; sometime soon i expect to sell 
> the camera (which i just realized i've had for a year longer than i had 
> thought) and a pristine screen should increase the perceived value
> 
> i know from my old PowerShot G3 that screens that have been rubbed to the 
> point where the finish suffers can still display okay since the illumination 
> shines right through the rubbed areas, but when powered off that screen looks 
> like crap, and if the camera weren't worthless anyway it would bring down the 
> value for sure.

Thanks Steve. I remain unconvinced, but your comment about resale value is 
about the only comment that seems to make any sense. Nobody yet has been able 
to point to any loss of functionality from damage to the LCD. Several have 
commented that damage to the protective covering can be a nuisance, to which my 
solution would be to leave off the protective covering.

stan


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RE: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

[Jeffery Johnson]

Now this an interesting bit of information and will keep this in mind while
out at Radnor Lake. Though the deer appear to be used to humans so they
don't seem in a bad mood while around us more like at times they are annoyed
I am standing there getting captures of them. When they are bored with me
they will walk away to another spot.


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I've been warned to not walk in the woods during deer season with a flash of
anything white on my chest, leading me to believe that most White Tails are
shot in the A$$.

I downloaded the images and made them as large as I could on my monitor as I
could before they began to break down, and the "wounds" looked more like
growths.


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Re: Telephoto for iPhone

[steve harley]

on 2011-10-08 19:08 Steven Desjardins wrote

Really:

http://www.electronista.com/reviews/iphone-telephoto-lens.html


the sample shots look awful and the reviewer is out of his league

these have been around for a while; i would think someone would have made a 
better version; a fisheye would appeal to me more



In related events, I say a person selling cell phone photos
(advertised as such) at a local far today.  No bad in an artsy sort of
way.


shooting with an iPhone is a lot of fun; good work can be done with it, and the 
range of tools is amazing -- in-camera hand-adjusted HDR, automatic panorama 
stitching; auto-loading to any photo service; any kitschy effect you can dream 
of ... as i noted in a different thread, someday we'll have an open computing 
platform embedded in a quality camera and boy will that change things


by far the strongest attraction for me of the iPhone 4s (vs. the iPhone 4 i 
have already) is the camera


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Re: The Hippocratic oath of photography.

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-10-08 3:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
http://icplibrary.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/hippocratic-oath-of-a-photographer/ 



I got this from TOP, but I might have stumbled on it by myself, so I 
figure why give a link to Johnston.  Heck I'm not getting paid for it.



A rich source of PUG themes, I'm thinking.

-bmw

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Re: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

[P. J. Alling]

I've been warned to not walk in the woods during deer season with a 
flash of anything white on my chest, leading me to believe that most 
White Tails are shot in the A$$.


I downloaded the images and made them as large as I could on my monitor 
as I could before they began to break down, and the "wounds" looked more 
like growths.


On 10/8/2011 6:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Those "wounds"(?) are near the heart/lung area; a hunter's popular target.

Jack
.

- Original Message -
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Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 2:45 PM
Subject: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14358779
This buck has been our neighborhood for a while.  He has several
protuberances on his side that are quite ugly.  I'm not sure if that
is a disease of some kind or the result of an injury.  The space
between the two large swellings suggests it might have been caused by
the horns of another buck, but I am not certain.

If anyone knows more about dee than I, I would appreciate your thoughts.

Dan
Dan Matyola
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RE: Telephoto for iPhone

[Jeffery Johnson]

Well now I wonder if I should contact the fella that wrote that piece and
see if he wishes to donate his no longer used camera and lenses now that he
is using only his iPhone.


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Really:

http://www.electronista.com/reviews/iphone-telephoto-lens.html

In related events, I say a person selling cell phone photos (advertised as
such) at a local far today.  No bad in an artsy sort of way.
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Telephoto for iPhone

[Steven Desjardins]

Really:

http://www.electronista.com/reviews/iphone-telephoto-lens.html

In related events, I say a person selling cell phone photos
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way.
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RE: GESO: Photo walk butterflies

[Jeffery Johnson]

Yes they are as I know from experience and only recently was I able to get a
half way good capture of a butterfly. One attempts to get close and they are
like no you are not getting any closer and fly off.


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Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 7:39 PM
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On 10/8/2011 7:10 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
> Walt,
> These are some nice butterfly captures...
> Jeffery
Thanks, Jeffery.

They're difficult subjects, but awfully gratifying when you catch them.  :-)

-- Walt

>
> 
> Photo Captures by Jeffery
> http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com
>
>
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> Of Walt Gilbert
> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 4:03 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: GESO: Photo walk butterflies
>
> Hi all,
>
> Took Mr. Larry's K100Ds out with the Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 for 
> a couple of hours today -- and, man, do I like that combination!  I 
> managed to finally get some butterfly images this year.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157627847489506/
>
> I tell you, that lens is the best $20 I've ever spent.  It's not 
> pretty, and there's no snap whatsoever in the aperture.  But, 
> fortunately, it's a functional A lens, and I just love the images it
produces.
>
> Any thoughts, comments and/or critiques are most welcome.
>
> (Thanks again, Larry!  I hope I don't "lose" your camera!)
>
> -- Walt
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Re: PESO - A little help from my friends

[Walt Gilbert]

On 10/8/2011 6:49 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14365180

Winsome image, Paul.  Love the expression on the girl's face as she's 
giving her a boost.


-- Walt

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Re: GESO: Photo walk butterflies

[Walt Gilbert]

On 10/8/2011 7:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Oct 8, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:


Hi all,

Took Mr. Larry's K100Ds out with the Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 for a couple 
of hours today -- and, man, do I like that combination!  I managed to finally 
get some butterfly images this year.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157627847489506/

I tell you, that lens is the best $20 I've ever spent.  It's not pretty, and 
there's no snap whatsoever in the aperture.  But, fortunately, it's a 
functional A lens, and I just love the images it produces.

Any thoughts, comments and/or critiques are most welcome.

Those are very nice.  Now consider that the gear you used for them might get 
$200 on the open market.

Thanks, Larry.

It's hard to believe, isn't it?  I think instead of worrying myself to 
death over getting a K-5, maybe I'll get a good used older camera to 
complement my K-x.  Because I really do like the the images your camera 
produces, and I don't really have that great a need for stunning 
low-light performance -- mostly because I just haven't learned how to 
shoot very well in low light.






(Thanks again, Larry!  I hope I don't "lose" your camera!)

The friend that wants to buy it from me would be rather upset.

Yeah, I wouldn't blame him.  Poor guy/gal.

-- walt




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Re: GESO: Photo walk butterflies

[Walt Gilbert]

On 10/8/2011 7:10 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

Walt,
These are some nice butterfly captures...
Jeffery

Thanks, Jeffery.

They're difficult subjects, but awfully gratifying when you catch them.  :-)

-- Walt




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Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 4:03 PM
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Subject: GESO: Photo walk butterflies

Hi all,

Took Mr. Larry's K100Ds out with the Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 for a
couple of hours today -- and, man, do I like that combination!  I managed to
finally get some butterfly images this year.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157627847489506/

I tell you, that lens is the best $20 I've ever spent.  It's not pretty, and
there's no snap whatsoever in the aperture.  But, fortunately, it's a
functional A lens, and I just love the images it produces.

Any thoughts, comments and/or critiques are most welcome.

(Thanks again, Larry!  I hope I don't "lose" your camera!)

-- Walt

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enablement averted

[Larry Colen]

At a flea market today, there was a woman selling a spotty with a 50/1.4 
supertak for $40.  I was tempted, but I already have two of the lenses and two 
or three spotties.  Her other lenses were various vivitars, nothing to get very 
excited about.  

I must be feeling the economic pinch when I'm not picking up lenses on the 
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Re: GESO: Photo walk butterflies

[Larry Colen]

On Oct 8, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Took Mr. Larry's K100Ds out with the Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 for a 
> couple of hours today -- and, man, do I like that combination!  I managed to 
> finally get some butterfly images this year.
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157627847489506/
> 
> I tell you, that lens is the best $20 I've ever spent.  It's not pretty, and 
> there's no snap whatsoever in the aperture.  But, fortunately, it's a 
> functional A lens, and I just love the images it produces.
> 
> Any thoughts, comments and/or critiques are most welcome.

Those are very nice.  Now consider that the gear you used for them might get 
$200 on the open market.

> 
> (Thanks again, Larry!  I hope I don't "lose" your camera!)

The friend that wants to buy it from me would be rather upset.


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RE: GESO: Photo walk butterflies

[Jeffery Johnson]

Walt,
These are some nice butterfly captures...
Jeffery


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Hi all,

Took Mr. Larry's K100Ds out with the Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 for a
couple of hours today -- and, man, do I like that combination!  I managed to
finally get some butterfly images this year.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157627847489506/

I tell you, that lens is the best $20 I've ever spent.  It's not pretty, and
there's no snap whatsoever in the aperture.  But, fortunately, it's a
functional A lens, and I just love the images it produces.

Any thoughts, comments and/or critiques are most welcome.

(Thanks again, Larry!  I hope I don't "lose" your camera!)

-- Walt

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RE: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

[Jeffery Johnson]

Dan,
The Buck captures are nice but on this one I can't make out what kind of wounds 
are on the deer. They do look like it had gotten into a fight and the areas are 
slowly healing up but hard to tell.

Jeffery


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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14358779
This buck has been our neighborhood for a while.  He has several protuberances 
on his side that are quite ugly.  I'm not sure if that is a disease of some 
kind or the result of an injury.  The space between the two large swellings 
suggests it might have been caused by the horns of another buck, but I am not 
certain.

If anyone knows more about dee than I, I would appreciate your thoughts.

Dan
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PESO - A little help from my friends

[Paul Stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14365180

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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[Paul Stenquist]

On Oct 8, 2011, at 6:53 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: David Mann
>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 6:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
>> 
>>> OTOH, even a cheap UV filter doesn't degrade the image as much as
>>> a scratched up front lens element. If the filter does get
>>> scratched up, a filter is cheaper to replace than a lens.
>>> 
>>> That is not conjecture, it is bitter, hard learned, expensive
>>> experience.
>> 
>> Interesting, I'd be interested to hear more details.  I've heard the
>> stories of Pentax lenses being used as ash trays without the
>> slightest damage so I figured you'd have to try pretty hard to
>> scratch one.
>> 
>> Myself, I always have either a hood or a cap on my lenses.  I
>> consider UV filters to be superfluous, but they're not as bad as
>> someone using a lens with a hood fitted in its "backwards" position.
>> That's fingernails on a blackboard to me
> 
> A lens cap provides no protection while you are actually taking photographs. 
> The lens hood does not always adequately protect the front element.
> 
> I slipped & fell while taking photographs. The camera hit the ground lens 
> first.
> 
> The lens did not have a filter. I put a bad ding (like a chipped car 
> windshield) in the front glass that showed up in every photo I subsequently 
> took with that lens, so that I ended up having to replace it.
> 
> I have had other accidents where I banged up the filter, but the the lens 
> itself was not damaged.

Okay, that works for you. But I've never damaged a front lens element in 50 
years of photography. I did bend one filter ring 35 years ago. I can't see 
putting a $50 filter on a $1000+ lens.  If I was convinced that I couldn't keep 
from damaging my equipment without filters, I don't think I would invest in 
good glass. Because a filter renders good glass, mediocre.
Paul
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Re: Picnic season will soon be over

[John Sessoms]

From: "Ken Waller"

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From: "John Sessoms" 

Subject: RE: Picnic season will soon be over



From: Don Guthrie

In the fall color is king but sometimes it is just the light coming
through the trees that intimates the end of one season and start of the
next. C&C welcomed.


http://donspix.posterous.com/picnic-season-comes-to-an-end-photo

Color is king because of what it does to the light. I like the photo.


Not to nit pick, but it seems to me that light is king because of what it
does to color.
Go look at a pretty fall scene in the early sun lit morning, then go back in
mid day and compare.


Perhaps I did not make my meaning clear. What I meant is that LIGHT is 
what makes color the king of fall.


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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[Bran Everseeking]

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:51:13 -0600
William Robb  wrote:

> Rule #1: Don't ever disturb a wedding photographer.
> It's a no win situation.
> 
Rule #2: always smile and nod when shown wedding pictures (even if it
hurts)

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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[John Sessoms]

From: David Mann

On Oct 8, 2011, at 6:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


OTOH, even a cheap UV filter doesn't degrade the image as much as
a scratched up front lens element. If the filter does get
scratched up, a filter is cheaper to replace than a lens.

That is not conjecture, it is bitter, hard learned, expensive
experience.


Interesting, I'd be interested to hear more details.  I've heard the
stories of Pentax lenses being used as ash trays without the
slightest damage so I figured you'd have to try pretty hard to
scratch one.

Myself, I always have either a hood or a cap on my lenses.  I
consider UV filters to be superfluous, but they're not as bad as
someone using a lens with a hood fitted in its "backwards" position.
That's fingernails on a blackboard to me


A lens cap provides no protection while you are actually taking 
photographs. The lens hood does not always adequately protect the front 
element.


I slipped & fell while taking photographs. The camera hit the ground 
lens first.


The lens did not have a filter. I put a bad ding (like a chipped car 
windshield) in the front glass that showed up in every photo I 
subsequently took with that lens, so that I ended up having to replace it.


I have had other accidents where I banged up the filter, but the the 
lens itself was not damaged.




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Re: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

[Jack Davis]

Those "wounds"(?) are near the heart/lung area; a hunter's popular target.

Jack
.

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Subject: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14358779
This buck has been our neighborhood for a while.  He has several
protuberances on his side that are quite ugly.  I'm not sure if that
is a disease of some kind or the result of an injury.  The space
between the two large swellings suggests it might have been caused by
the horns of another buck, but I am not certain.

If anyone knows more about dee than I, I would appreciate your thoughts.

Dan
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Re: OT PESO - Lightcrumbs

[David Savage]

Cheers Cotty.

Before I ruin the secret, do you (and anyone else) want to have a
guess on how it is done (without Googling it :-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 9 October 2011 04:23, Cotty  wrote:
> On 8/10/11, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>All,
>>
>>I went down south this weekend to take part in the Scott Kelby
>>photowalk being held in a small country town & I took this the night
>>before:
>>
>>
>
>
> Great job Dave - one of my son's photography class projects was on
> similar lines - I know how you did the blue swirlies, but how did you do
> the others?
>
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Re: PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

[P. J. Alling]

I don't think he's been shot, I think he has a skin disease..


On 10/8/2011 5:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14358779
This buck has been our neighborhood for a while.  He has several
protuberances on his side that are quite ugly.  I'm not sure if that
is a disease of some kind or the result of an injury.  The space
between the two large swellings suggests it might have been caused by
the horns of another buck, but I am not certain.

If anyone knows more about dee than I, I would appreciate your thoughts.

Dan
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Re: PESO: Front Yard Buck

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Jack.

No, I was not trying for an "Velvia" look, but I don't mind if it came
out that way.  Thanks for looking and for your comments.


Dan
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On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Good you were able to "catch" him, Dan. The image has a definate Velvia look. 
> Was never one I went for in my film days, but many did/do.
> Intentional?
>
> Jack
>
>
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> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=147
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> Comments and criticisms are invited.
>
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Re: PESO: Front Yard Buck

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Bob.

They run away from me when I am on foot.  I was in my car, and he was
less wary, so I was able to drive along with him and shoot this out
the car window.  Not as crisp as I would have liked, but generally I
was pleased with the result.

Dan
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On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dan,
> Wow, that's fun.  Better than one of those lawn ornaments!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=147
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>> Comments and criticisms are invited.
>>
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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[David Savage]

Lens flare is a very popular look ATM.

On 9 October 2011 02:47, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:29, David Mann wrote:
>>
>> Myself, I always have either a hood or a cap on my lenses.  I consider UV 
>> filters to be superfluous, but they're not as bad as someone using a lens 
>> with a hood fitted in its "backwards" position.  That's fingernails on a 
>> blackboard to me.
>>
>
> I recently watched a "wedding photographer" shooting INTO THE SUN with the 
> lens hood fitted backwards.  Sunshine directly illuminating the front 
> element.  I wanted to say something, and realized that she probably "does 
> what she does" and wouldn't want to hear suggestions from the peanut gallery.
>
>  -Charles
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Re: OT PESO - Lightcrumbs

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a very interesting and effective image.

Exactly what am I looking at?

Dan
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On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 8/10/11, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>All,
>>
>>I went down south this weekend to take part in the Scott Kelby
>>photowalk being held in a small country town & I took this the night
>>before:
>>
>>
>
>
> Great job Dave - one of my son's photography class projects was on
> similar lines - I know how you did the blue swirlies, but how did you do
> the others?
>
>
>
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PESO: Wounded (?) Buck

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14358779
This buck has been our neighborhood for a while.  He has several
protuberances on his side that are quite ugly.  I'm not sure if that
is a disease of some kind or the result of an injury.  The space
between the two large swellings suggests it might have been caused by
the horns of another buck, but I am not certain.

If anyone knows more about dee than I, I would appreciate your thoughts.

Dan
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GESO: Photo walk butterflies

[Walt Gilbert]

Hi all,

Took Mr. Larry's K100Ds out with the Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 for a 
couple of hours today -- and, man, do I like that combination!  I 
managed to finally get some butterfly images this year.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157627847489506/

I tell you, that lens is the best $20 I've ever spent.  It's not pretty, 
and there's no snap whatsoever in the aperture.  But, fortunately, it's 
a functional A lens, and I just love the images it produces.


Any thoughts, comments and/or critiques are most welcome.

(Thanks again, Larry!  I hope I don't "lose" your camera!)

-- Walt

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Re: OT PESO - Lightcrumbs

[Cotty]

On 8/10/11, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>All,
>
>I went down south this weekend to take part in the Scott Kelby
>photowalk being held in a small country town & I took this the night
>before:
>
>


Great job Dave - one of my son's photography class projects was on
similar lines - I know how you did the blue swirlies, but how did you do
the others?



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Re: October PUG now available for your viewing pleasure

[Cotty]

On 8/10/11, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>G'day all
>
>The October PUG is now up.  As usual, many and varied interpretations of
>the theme but Bran's interpretation takes the prize for the most
>innovative.  Only one 'Open Gallery' submission this month but a vivid
>one it is.
>
>You'll find the gallery here (as usual):
>
>http://pug.komkon.org/

Lovely gallery - thanks to all contributors - nice place to get lost for
a few minutes!


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Peso - :)

[Sasha Sobol]

https://plus.google.com/107870240225843632731/posts/UmPE52vqutm

Comments welcome as always,

Thanks,
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The Hippocratic oath of photography.

[P. J. Alling]

http://icplibrary.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/hippocratic-oath-of-a-photographer/

I got this from TOP, but I might have stumbled on it by myself, so I 
figure why give a link to Johnston.  Heck I'm not getting paid for it.


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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[William Robb]

On 08/10/2011 12:47 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:



I recently watched a "wedding photographer" shooting INTO THE SUN with the lens hood 
fitted backwards.  Sunshine directly illuminating the front element.  I wanted to say something, 
and realized that she probably "does what she does" and wouldn't want to hear suggestions 
from the peanut gallery.



Rule #1: Don't ever disturb a wedding photographer.
It's a no win situation.

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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[Charles Robinson]

On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:29, David Mann wrote:
> 
> Myself, I always have either a hood or a cap on my lenses.  I consider UV 
> filters to be superfluous, but they're not as bad as someone using a lens 
> with a hood fitted in its "backwards" position.  That's fingernails on a 
> blackboard to me.
> 

I recently watched a "wedding photographer" shooting INTO THE SUN with the lens 
hood fitted backwards.  Sunshine directly illuminating the front element.  I 
wanted to say something, and realized that she probably "does what she does" 
and wouldn't want to hear suggestions from the peanut gallery.

 -Charles

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Re: PESO: Front Yard Buck

[Jack Davis]

Good you were able to "catch" him, Dan. The image has a definate Velvia look. 
Was never one I went for in my film days, but many did/do.
Intentional?

Jack 


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Subject: PESO: Front Yard Buckfinate

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=147

Comments and criticisms are invited.

Dan Matyola
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Re: Picnic season will soon be over

[Larry Colen]

On Oct 8, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" 
> 
> Subject: RE: Picnic season will soon be over
> 
> 
>> From: Don Guthrie
>>> In the fall color is king but sometimes it is just the light coming
>>> through the trees that intimates the end of one season and start of the
>>> next. C&C welcomed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://donspix.posterous.com/picnic-season-comes-to-an-end-photo
>> 
>> Color is king because of what it does to the light. I like the photo.
> 
> Not to nit pick, but it seems to me that light is king because of what it 
> does to color.
> Go look at a pretty fall scene in the early sun lit morning, then go back in 
> mid day and compare.

There are other qualities of light too.  Directionality and how sharp/diffuse 
it is will affect shadows.  In early morning or late afternoon, the light is 
coming from one side.  Just before sunrise and after sunset, it is a 
directional, but diffuse light.


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Re: October PUG now available for your viewing pleasure

[Paul Sorenson]

Me, too.  If you've spent much time in Chicago, Christine's is special. 
 Can't count the number of times I drove up and down LSD in the mid-60's.


"LSD", courtesy of Aliotta Haynes Jeremiah...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0saZiLV7-7E

-p

On 10/7/2011 7:56 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

I concur with Stan

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On Oct 7, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

The October PUG is now up.  As usual, many and varied interpretations
of the theme but Bran's interpretation takes the prize for the most
innovative.  Only one 'Open Gallery' submission this month but a vivid
one it is.

You'll find the gallery here (as usual):

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
there)

Last month a few people had problems viewing the gallery.  We think
that's been fixed but if you are still having problems, please say so.

+

Top quality from start to finish. Very fine work!

stan


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Re: PESO: Front Yard Buck

[Bob Sullivan]

Dan,
Wow, that's fun.  Better than one of those lawn ornaments!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=147
>
> Comments and criticisms are invited.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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RE: Hoya and Pentax

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Steven Desjardins
> 
> " As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)"
> 
> On a related topic, do the French use different acronyms when they
> text?
> 

yes. A couple of years ago when I started to warm up my French again, the
teacher spent some time going through various types of French yoofspeak,
including text language. She asked us to come up with some text messages of
our own and didn't seem very amused by my effort: je Dtest 7 exR6.

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PESO - Picking Out a Sign

[Eactivist]

One of my stabs at taking people shots that I  felt was not totally 
successful.

Still, it's a nice  moment...

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/picking.htm

Comments  welcome.

Marnie :-)  


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Re: Picnic season will soon be over

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms" 


Subject: RE: Picnic season will soon be over



From: Don Guthrie

In the fall color is king but sometimes it is just the light coming
through the trees that intimates the end of one season and start of the
next. C&C welcomed.


http://donspix.posterous.com/picnic-season-comes-to-an-end-photo


Color is king because of what it does to the light. I like the photo.


Not to nit pick, but it seems to me that light is king because of what it 
does to color.
Go look at a pretty fall scene in the early sun lit morning, then go back in 
mid day and compare.



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Re: Clear Packing Tape on LCD

[Bipin Gupta]

I have experimented with LCD clear film protectors on my cameras, and
phones and have found bubbles form on the cheaper Walmart type
purchases. A friend of mine gave me a complimentary clear film from
Palm Inc. I could tell it was extremely high quality and went on my
K20D perfectly - absolutely no bubbles. It's been on for 21/2 years
now and I have not noticed any curling at the edges. Of course I had
to cut it to size for the K20D LCD screen. I can see no deterioration
of the image on the LCD whatsoever.
Best of all it comes of very easily - no pulling force required - and
can be stuck back again.
I can positively recommend use of protective film. It has protected my
LCD screen as I can see plenty of scratches on the film, so much so
that I must replace it with a new one.

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RE: Picnic season will soon be over

[John Sessoms]

From: Don Guthrie

In the fall color is king but sometimes it is just the light coming
through the trees that intimates the end of one season and start of the
next. C&C welcomed.


http://donspix.posterous.com/picnic-season-comes-to-an-end-photo


Color is king because of what it does to the light. I like the photo.

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Re: Hoya and Pentax

[Steven Desjardins]

" As I understand it, only americans care about acronyms :-)"

On a related topic, do the French use different acronyms when they text?

>
> Stig Vidar Hovland
> 
> Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] på vegne av P. J. 
> Alling [webstertwenty...@gmail.com]
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>
> The Japanese don't really care what sounds like in English.
>
> On 10/6/2011 6:43 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> (I still can't believe they called it the Pentax Ricoh Imaging
>> Company. Didn't one single exec pronounce the acronym out loud?)
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PESO: Front Yard Buck

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=147

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RE: PESO - Windswept Lighthouse

[Bill Sawyer]

Great stuff, Mark. 

Glad to see that you're still shooting b&w film.  I've been using the MZ-S
and my Leica for that purpose, almost exclusively lately. I'm thinking of
blowing the dust off of my Mamiya TLR and working with that, too.
Processing the film seems a like a real bother, though, after the ease of
downloading digital to the computer. 

We all, I'm sure, look forward to seeing what you did with the 6x7. 

Bill Sawyer

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An out take from last Friday - Mz-S and FA 80-320, Neopan 400 pushed to 
1600.

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/

or

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/windswept-lighthouse

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color management problems (Lightroom to PDF)

[Toine]

Maybe the collective wisdom of the list could help me:

I'm trying to export a PDF file from lightroom or photoshop. ICM in
the printer driver is disabled.
To my surprise the resulting pdf file looks different on screen.

Windows 7 box and a dell U2410 monitor set to AdobeRGB and Device
profile in Windows Color Management set to Adobe RGB, viewing
conditions profile to System Default also tried WCS for ICC viewing,
No calibration tools used.

I would except the LR picture and PDF picture to match on screen??

Toine

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