Re: PDML statistics

2012-06-05 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi!

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:02 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-06-04 24:18 Dmitry Gromov wrote

 Cool chart, was looking to do something like this myself. Major camera
 announcements is very easily visible here.


 the chart was easy with Google Docs, though it didn't give me much control
 over the format; i had thought someone might have already written scraper
 for stats from mailman archives, but couldn't find one … i talked myself
 down from writing my own scraper because it was of course much faster to
 just hand-enter this small data set into a spreadsheet

 raw monthly totals from pdml.net is tab-delimited below (i'll share it
 straight from Google Docs on request, the fact everything ties into Google
 Plus has me leery of posting public sharing links to Google Docs)

 month   2006    2007    2008    2009    2010    2011    2012
 1               7228    4974    4504    4764    5091    3418
 2               6270    3708    5044    4495    4204    3064
 3               6472    4252    6471    4672    4446    3306
 4               6084    3859    5474    4626    3935    3340
 5               6099    3441    5059    4950    3435    2788
 6       5953    3700    3993    3500    3494    3529
 7       4939    2900    3204    3998    3429    3509
 8       5141    4189    3056    3571    3291    2912
 9       7606    4336    3990    3191    3901    2463
 10      8010    5291    3190    4386    3877    2828
 11      5503    3736    3762    3728    5460    2436
 12      7926    4078    4393    3961    5163    3060
 year total      45078   60383   45822   52887   52122   41848   15916


Steve, thanks a lot for raw data!
If I ever find my own archive, I can try and get older counts...

D.

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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread David Mann
On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Robb wrote:

 IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got shut 
 down by the feds because some of their members were storing data they didn't 
 own.

Not sure who exactly you're talking about but Mega Upload was shut down by the 
FBI, courtesy of the NZ Police.  It's been a complete farce and the extradition 
of Kim Dotcom is slowly grinding its way through the courts.  It's sounding 
less likely to succeed as time goes by.

Not that Mr Dotcom is squeaky clean himself... but I think the balance of 
public opinion is on his side.

Dave


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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

2012-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
And that photo of the Canyon is breathtaking. Very nice - lets see the rest!


On Jun 2, 2012, at 17:11 , Walter Hamler wrote:

 Thanks, Dan.  I probably shot a dozen or more pano's, but this is the
 first one I have put together using PSE 9. It does pretty good but
 keeps telling me I have limited RAM. I have 12 gig installed, so that
 should not be a problem ?

Joseph McAllister
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

2012-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jun 2, 2012, at 17:11 , Walter Hamler wrote:

 Thanks, Dan.  I probably shot a dozen or more pano's, but this is the
 first one I have put together using PSE 9. It does pretty good but
 keeps telling me I have limited RAM. I have 12 gig installed, so that
 should not be a problem ?

All installations of RAM is by description 'Limited'. 

Whatever quantity you stuff in your compubox, the next generation of software 
will need 50% more.

And a newer computer will be needed to recognize that increased RAM.

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Re: Bryce Canyon Pano

2012-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jun 3, 2012, at 22:44 , Igor Roshchin wrote:

 Walt, 
 
 Both panos are well done!

All these Panos are impressive Walt. 

 
 Just a few comments (grumblings?):
 1. dpi has no sense unless the image is printed (or displayed) on a
 particular size.
 2. 6171x1737 can be produced with just two frames with K7/K5/K10/...
 I am not sure what is the angle of view of the iPod camera, but from
 what I've seen, it looks like it is not extremely wide, - so it
 can be covered by a reasonable DSLR lens.
 
 Igor

Yeah, but nothing reflects the sunlight as well as a silver iPad for lighting 
those shady spots, and takes pictures too!

I haven't been able to get anything worth printing with my iPad 2, because I 
can't hold it steady. Thinking of modifying my window-pod so it has two window 
grips, one for the iPad. Crunch.




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RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob W
Lens makers used to give this number. My Zeiss lenses generally claimed to
be best at 5.6, and this is now my default setting even though I no longer
have any Zeiss lenses.

The theory was you set the lens on 5.6, or whatever, and used the hyperfocal
distance to get the sharpest photo with the most depth-of-field.

Some of the Pentax cameras had a setting which automatically set the lens at
its best aperture, which was coded into the chip, I suppose, when it might
have been cheaper just to paint that aperture mark a different colour.

B

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 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Larry Colen
 Sent: 04 June 2012 23:22
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?
 
 I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying
 to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each
 lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them.
 
 Then I wondered how much it really matters.  I've heard a couple of
 stops down from wide open,  anywhere between f/8 and f/16, and a
 couple other rules of thumb.   I do know that on some lenses,
 particularly the FA50/1.4, that stopping it down a couple of stops from
 wide open, makes a huge difference.  And I suspect that if you look on
 an MTF chart, you might be able to easily see the difference between
 f/4 and f/8,  but is there a practical noticeable difference?
 
 There is also the question of sharpness at the critical focus distance,
 and overall sharpness.  That a lens might be sharper at f/4 than f/16
 at the focal distance, but with a lot more depth of field, more of the
 photo will be sharper at f/16, than at f/64.
 
 I'm primarily interested in answers based on personal, practical
 experience, rather than theory.  My hunch is that as long as I'm not
 too close to wide open, or pushing diffraction limits, optimizing
 aperture for sharpness is not the most productive place to spend my
 time and energy.  That I'm generally best optimizing the aperture for
 the picture, and not trying to optimize the aperture for MTF.
 
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Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jun 4, 2012, at 17:31 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:

 In theory a perfect lens would be sharpest wide open, so a really good lens
 would be sharpest close to wide open. If it takes 4 or 5 stops to sharpen up
 a lens, its probably not that great. As for good rules of thumb, I find f5.6
 or f8 to usually work pretty damn good

If a kens is designed to be at it's optimum wide open and becomes less sharp as 
you stop down - 
why bother with an aperture at all?DOF?? - use another lens.



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Re: Re- An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice.  The HDR makes a nice image in this case.  My Dada had a late
50's Belair, followed by a Ford Fairlane, followed by a '65 Mustang.
The worst part is that I had a real shot at the Mustang back in '78.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 As I remember Ken mine took oil by the quart - every week or two.

 Thanks for the look and yes the HDR is my preferred version. I saw some HDR
 cars done by Rick Sammon and even though he's a Canon user I did like what
 he did with cars in Cuba.

  Respectfully yours ..DG



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 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:16:20 -0400
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 Well I wouldn't exactly call that a great design but it is certainly
 timeless. My dad had a 53 but it was a 4 door. It was on that car I
 performed my first oil change  found out when they said XX qts of oil,
 they
 meant it. Nothing like foaming oil coming out of the breather.

 Nice capture, I like both renditions.

 I see more and more of HDR applied to older car images  I really like
 most
 of them - to me it gives them a classy/artsy look.


 Now I expect you to give this comment the due respect it deserves.  ;+}

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message -
 From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
 Subject: An example of timeless design and style


 My 1st Car was a '53 Chevy. When I saw this chevy on the street last week
 I was glad I had my camera primed and loaded. Two versions - one BW
 straight out of the camera and the second a more stylized version.



 http://donspix.posterous.com/a-60-year-old-example-of-timeless-style-and-d


 Warning- There are two pictures (2 tiny icons) please look at both. One
 would be rejected by National Geo and the other they wouldn't like
 anyway.

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Re: PAW126 - Arrow

2012-06-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
What a neat shot (and title).  That's a clever piece of work.

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 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K-5, DA15, 1/13s, f/4.0, ISO100.

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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

2012-06-05 Thread Walter Hamler
Yes, mine is only 8 months old and I added 3 - 4 gig cards right after
buying. I have also updated to Lion. The machine is fast, but not a
steamroller for sure. I just can't figure out why I come up with the
msg that there isn't enough ram.  I strongly suspect it has something
to do with ram allocation from my PC days.  However, it may well be
that when PSE is crunching something as large as a 7 photo merge it
uses up assets faster than I realize :-)

Walt

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 If your specs say that iMac will use 12 GB of RAM, it will. Maybe more. My 
 iMac is limited to 4 GB, but if matched it will take a 4 GB and 2 GB simm. 
 Many of the usual programs will use that extra 2 GB. Certainly speeds up 
 Aperture and PS, and everything else.

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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread William Robb

On 05/06/2012 12:05 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Robb wrote:


IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got shut down 
by the feds because some of their members were storing data they didn't own.


Not sure who exactly you're talking about but Mega Upload was shut down by the 
FBI, courtesy of the NZ Police.  It's been a complete farce and the extradition 
of Kim Dotcom is slowly grinding its way through the courts.  It's sounding 
less likely to succeed as time goes by.

Not that Mr Dotcom is squeaky clean himself... but I think the balance of 
public opinion is on his side.




The why it was shut down is immaterial to the discussion. The point is, 
it was shut down, and anyone who had data stored on his server either 
lost their data or were very inconvenienced.
Anyone who is depending on cloud storage should be looking at this as 
the potential end result of all their carefully uploaded data.


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Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread George Sinos
Just remember - while all of this is mildly interesting, it doesn't
really make a lot of difference to the end result.  When you're
looking at the photograph on a screen or paper, the tiny differences
are extremely hard to see.

If the differences in f-stops are that distinct in a modern lens, you
probably need to be looking for a different lens.

And if you're looking at the sharpness, you probably don't have a very
good photo to start with.

gs

George Sinos

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On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 On Jun 4, 2012, at 17:31 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:

 In theory a perfect lens would be sharpest wide open, so a really good lens
 would be sharpest close to wide open. If it takes 4 or 5 stops to sharpen up
 a lens, its probably not that great. As for good rules of thumb, I find f5.6
 or f8 to usually work pretty damn good

 If a kens is designed to be at it's optimum wide open and becomes less sharp 
 as you stop down -
 why bother with an aperture at all?    DOF?? - use another lens.



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PESO: Fleet Week Marines

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The week surrounding Memorial Day is Fleet Week in New York City:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15860593

Comments and Criticisms are invited.

Dan Matyola
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Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying 
to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, 
and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them.

The sweet spot for sharpness is usually around f/5.6-f/8, depending on
the lens. Of course, depending on the lens and the composition of your
photo you might need more depth of field than the optimum aperture
yields, so sharpness and DOF is usually a compromise. (Also, sharpness
and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get
motion blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem when
shooting waterfalls and such and I'm forced to stop way down to f/22 -
another reason I'm wishing for a DSLR with *lower* ISO settings.)

With a Pentax camera and a Pentax lens it's easy to find the sharpest
aperture: Just set the camera's Program exposure line into MTF mode
and use Program auto exposure: the camera will read the MTF data
that's written into the chip in the lens and set the aperture to the
optimum value for that lens. I don't know of any other camera maker
that offers this feature.
 
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RE: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread Tanya Love
Lol! There is no such link in existence!  They are referring to a time, many
moons ago (circa 2004) when I had a certain medical procedure on said
girls and proudly showed the results off.

I learned my lesson, and won't be repeating it again! Lol.

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Subject: Re: I have a secret...

On May 31, 2012, at 19:10 , P. J. Alling wrote:

 This from the woman who showed us the girls.

URL Please. I missed that somehow.

Already made my res. for flight to London to take snaps of the hat slowly
disappearing into Cotty's maw.


 On 5/31/2012 9:38 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
 ...but you didn't hear it from me.
 
 Let me say two things only:
 
 1. September
 2. FF
 
 I can hardly contain myself!!
 
 tan. :-)
 
 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: PESO: (T)high Fashion

2012-06-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jack Davis


Seems the point is to first draw attention...then repulse.
A kind of?pre-stimulant?whip lash.


Rreminds me of a conversation I've had with certain women, If you don't 
like it, wear a T-shirt with short words  big letters, not the other 
way around!


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Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Don Guthrie


My 1st Car was a '53 Chevy. When I saw this chevy on the street last
week I was glad I had my camera primed and loaded. Two versions - one
BW straight out of the camera and the second a more stylized version.


http://donspix.posterous.com/a-60-year-old-example-of-timeless-style-and-d


Warning- There are two pictures (2 tiny icons) please look at both. One
would be rejected by National Geo and the other they wouldn't like anyway.

As always comments are read and given all due respect.




National Geographic would take the BW rendering if the car had been 
found on the street in Havana. The other one doesn't really do anything 
for me.


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RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread John Sessoms

Less than actually getting the subject in focus does.

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PESO - PAD - Omaha World-Herald Print-a-Day-8

2012-06-05 Thread George Sinos
This is number 8 in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

http://georges.posterous.com/omaha-world-herald-print-a-day-8

The strong contrast and diagonal lines in this photo are what make it
interesting to me.  I don't have any particular connection to the
building or it's occupant.  I just find it graphically interesting.

The green street sign and the blue sky were the only challenging parts
of this print.  For me, this was an example of trying to make a print
that looked right, rather than accurate.  The green street sign has
some reflective material on it's surface and just looked pretty bad.

It took a few adjustments in the HSL panel of Lightroom to make it
look like I remembered the day.  The sky looked way too blue, so I
decreased the blue hue slider.  I increased the green saturation
slider a bit.  I also decreased the aqua luminance and increased the
blue a bit.

I like this photo but it's nothing I'd put on my wall.

gs

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PESO: Fleet Week Marines

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The week surrounding Memorial Day is Fleet Week in New York City:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15860593

Comments and Criticisms are invited.

Dan Matyola
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TEST

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There were no messages from the PDML this morning, and I received no
confirmation of the two posts I made earlier today.

Therefore, this is a test to see if things are back to normal -- if
they can ever be described as normal on the PDML.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - PAD - Omaha World-Herald Print-a-Day-8

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great image.  I like the angle of view and the angle of the sign
bracket against the lines of the building.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:51 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is number 8 in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

 http://georges.posterous.com/omaha-world-herald-print-a-day-8

 The strong contrast and diagonal lines in this photo are what make it
 interesting to me.  I don't have any particular connection to the
 building or it's occupant.  I just find it graphically interesting.

 The green street sign and the blue sky were the only challenging parts
 of this print.  For me, this was an example of trying to make a print
 that looked right, rather than accurate.  The green street sign has
 some reflective material on it's surface and just looked pretty bad.

 It took a few adjustments in the HSL panel of Lightroom to make it
 look like I remembered the day.  The sky looked way too blue, so I
 decreased the blue hue slider.  I increased the green saturation
 slider a bit.  I also decreased the aqua luminance and increased the
 blue a bit.

 I like this photo but it's nothing I'd put on my wall.

 gs

 George Sinos
 
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Re: OT: Images of the World Trade Center under construction

2012-06-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Thanks for the link.  Great shots.

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RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Mark Roberts
 (Also, sharpness
 and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get motion
 blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem when shooting
 waterfalls and such and I'm forced to stop way down to f/22 - another
 reason I'm wishing for a DSLR with *lower* ISO settings.)
 

ND filters

B


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Re: PESO - PAD - Omaha World-Herald Print-a-Day-8

2012-06-05 Thread Kenton Brede
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:51 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is number 8 in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

 http://georges.posterous.com/omaha-world-herald-print-a-day-8

Nice image.  I'd think an exec in that building would like a print
hanging in their office. :)

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Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread David Savage
On 6 June 2012 00:10, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

  From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
  Mark Roberts
  (Also, sharpness
  and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get motion
  blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem when shooting
  waterfalls and such and I'm forced to stop way down to f/22 - another
  reason I'm wishing for a DSLR with *lower* ISO settings.)
 

 ND filters

And/or in camera multiple exposures.

DS

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Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Mark Roberts
 (Also, sharpness
 and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get motion
 blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem when shooting
 waterfalls and such and I'm forced to stop way down to f/22 - another
 reason I'm wishing for a DSLR with *lower* ISO settings.)
 

ND filters

...are a pain in the arse. Dark viewfinders suck. Composing, focusing
and then attaching the ND filter also sucks. What would be cool would
be an ND filter that went behind the reflex mirror and in front of the
sensor.


 
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RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Mark Roberts
 
 Bob W wrote:
 
  From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
  Of Mark Roberts (Also, sharpness and shutter speed can be a trade-
 off
  too if you're trying to get motion blur from long shutter speed. I
  run into this problem when shooting waterfalls and such and I'm
  forced to stop way down to f/22 - another reason I'm wishing for a
  DSLR with *lower* ISO settings.)
 
 
 ND filters
 
 ...are a pain in the arse. Dark viewfinders suck. Composing, focusing
 and then attaching the ND filter also sucks. What would be cool would
 be an ND filter that went behind the reflex mirror and in front of the
 sensor.
 

drop-in ones are a lot easier to use than screw-mounted ones. If you're
shooting blurry waterfalls then your camera is on a tripod or similar so you
can compose and focus, then drop the filter in without disturbing anything.
It also makes you look from a distance as if you're using a dark slide, so
people will think you're a proper photographer.

B


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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:17 AM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 05/06/2012 12:05 AM, David Mann wrote:

 On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Robb wrote:

 IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got
 shut down by the feds because some of their members were storing data they
 didn't own.


 Not sure who exactly you're talking about but Mega Upload was shut down
 by the FBI, courtesy of the NZ Police.  It's been a complete farce and the
 extradition of Kim Dotcom is slowly grinding its way through the courts.
  It's sounding less likely to succeed as time goes by.

 Not that Mr Dotcom is squeaky clean himself... but I think the balance of
 public opinion is on his side.



 The why it was shut down is immaterial to the discussion. The point is, it
 was shut down, and anyone who had data stored on his server either lost
 their data or were very inconvenienced.
 Anyone who is depending on cloud storage should be looking at this as the
 potential end result of all their carefully uploaded data.

Calling Megaupload a cloud storage company is like calling the Mafia
a global security firm. Nobody legit had anything stored there. It
was/is for warez, swiped movies and music, etc.

Now if the FBI shutdown DropBox or Amazon I'd be interested. The
notion that one of these legit cloud services would be shutdown
because of a court order is dubious and of an extremely low order of
risk.

A much higher risk is that Amazon would suffer from a catastrophic
single-point-of-failure accident and you temporarily lose access to
your data. This has happened, also to Google (the Google App Engine).
Poorly designed or implemented network architecture is the risk to
concern yourself with.

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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling

As an aside, how could Dotcom be a real name?

On 6/5/2012 8:17 AM, William Robb wrote:

On 05/06/2012 12:05 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Jun 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Robb wrote:

IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got 
shut down by the feds because some of their members were storing 
data they didn't own.


Not sure who exactly you're talking about but Mega Upload was shut 
down by the FBI, courtesy of the NZ Police.  It's been a complete 
farce and the extradition of Kim Dotcom is slowly grinding its way 
through the courts.  It's sounding less likely to succeed as time 
goes by.


Not that Mr Dotcom is squeaky clean himself... but I think the 
balance of public opinion is on his side.





The why it was shut down is immaterial to the discussion. The point 
is, it was shut down, and anyone who had data stored on his server 
either lost their data or were very inconvenienced.
Anyone who is depending on cloud storage should be looking at this as 
the potential end result of all their carefully uploaded data.





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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 6/5/2012 10:16 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

Lol! There is no such link in existence!  They are referring to a time, many
moons ago (circa 2004) when I had a certain medical procedure on said
girls and proudly showed the results off.

I learned my lesson, and won't be repeating it again! Lol.


Yes, but I down loaded the pictures.  Lucky for you they disappeared in 
the great hard drive crash of 2010.



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Subject: Re: I have a secret...

On May 31, 2012, at 19:10 , P. J. Alling wrote:


This from the woman who showed us the girls.

URL Please. I missed that somehow.

Already made my res. for flight to London to take snaps of the hat slowly
disappearing into Cotty's maw.



On 5/31/2012 9:38 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

...but you didn't hear it from me.

Let me say two things only:

1. September
2. FF

I can hardly contain myself!!

tan. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: TEST

2012-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling

Nope didn't get it no, not at all, all blank...

On 6/5/2012 12:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

There were no messages from the PDML this morning, and I received no
confirmation of the two posts I made earlier today.

Therefore, this is a test to see if things are back to normal -- if
they can ever be described as normal on the PDML.

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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:00 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an aside, how could Dotcom be a real name?

By virtue of a legally executed name change.

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

 Lol! There is no such link in existence!  They are referring to a time, many
 moons ago (circa 2004) when I had a certain medical procedure on said
 girls and proudly showed the results off.
 
 I learned my lesson, and won't be repeating it again! Lol.

I missed that.  It was before I joined PDML.  I can only guess which procedure 
you are referring to.  I expect that in any event it was a growth experience.

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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 6/5/2012 1:10 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:00 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:


As an aside, how could Dotcom be a real name?

By virtue of a legally executed name change.

Actually you don't even have to do that, you can call yourself any damn 
thing you want as long as it's not for illegal purposes.  But that's 
beside the point.  I see a name like that and think someone's trying to 
get one over.


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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 6/5/2012 1:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Tanya Love wrote:


Lol! There is no such link in existence!  They are referring to a time, many
moons ago (circa 2004) when I had a certain medical procedure on said
girls and proudly showed the results off.

I learned my lesson, and won't be repeating it again! Lol.

I missed that.  It was before I joined PDML.  I can only guess which procedure 
you are referring to.  I expect that in any event it was a growth experience.


Actually the results were shown early in recovery.  It was enough to put 
normal young boys off looking for a long time.  That said they were 
going to be, much larger, than originally specified.



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GESO Pentaxian

2012-06-05 Thread Larry Colen
I got a text, night before last, from a friend asking if I still had a K20 
charger.  He is starting to teach classes at a dance studio, and was planning 
on getting together with his boss, set up the camera and have her take some 
pictures, but couldn't find his charger.  By the time the dust settled, he came 
over here and we did a quick photo session in my back yard.   

K-5, FA77, on a monopod, which seems like a reasonable compromise between 
mobility and stability.  About halfway through the shots of him in a black 
shirt, I put the AF540 on for fill light. 

Going over the photos, I've got a distressing number where the camera is 
focused on something closer to me than his eyes, despite my attempt to set the 
focus point on his eyes.  Usually on some high contrast feature of his shirt.  
The close ups seem to be focused just right, so it's more of a focus point 
selection issue, than a front focus issue.  
I'm still waiting for my focus screen adjustment shims from Pentax, it's been 
about a month.  I ordered a variety, and got a note that a couple were on back 
order, and I can't seem to drop those from my order and get it shipped already.

Anyways, comments and suggestions on these are welcome.
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629997379781/

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 12:16:27AM +1000, Tanya Love wrote:
 Lol! There is no such link in existence!
 They are referring to a time, many moons ago (circa 2004) . . .

Not exactly a 'moon' ...


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Re: GESO Pentaxian

2012-06-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Larry there are some very good shots hiding in there. That man is a
great subject.

But sadly, it's *way* too much effort to scroll through all of those
looking for them. I do like 59440.jpg and 59468.jpg especially.

Before you spend another moment comparing MTF charts, I recommend you
practice editing shoots like that down to 1 to 3 shots to post. Use
the stars in Lr to rank the and do a few passes.

BTW, try having him tilt his head away from the camera toward his far
shoulder a little in more shots where he's turned 3/4. Like 59521.jpg.


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 I got a text, night before last, from a friend asking if I still had a K20
 charger.  He is starting to teach classes at a dance studio, and was
 planning on getting together with his boss, set up the camera and have her
 take some pictures, but couldn't find his charger.  By the time the dust
 settled, he came over here and we did a quick photo session in my back yard.

 K-5, FA77, on a monopod, which seems like a reasonable compromise between
 mobility and stability.  About halfway through the shots of him in a black
 shirt, I put the AF540 on for fill light.

 Going over the photos, I've got a distressing number where the camera is
 focused on something closer to me than his eyes, despite my attempt to set
 the focus point on his eyes.  Usually on some high contrast feature of his
 shirt.  The close ups seem to be focused just right, so it's more of a focus
 point selection issue, than a front focus issue.
 I'm still waiting for my focus screen adjustment shims from Pentax, it's
 been about a month.  I ordered a variety, and got a note that a couple were
 on back order, and I can't seem to drop those from my order and get it
 shipped already.

 Anyways, comments and suggestions on these are welcome.
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629997379781/

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PESO - The gardeners wall

2012-06-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
This link leads to two pictures.
http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/search/label/M%C3%B8te%20med%20veggen
I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

To make good photographs out of something two dimensional is rather
challenging.
The norwegian title translates to hit the wall. Thats a Norwegian
saying about what happenes (figuratively speaking) when you are burned
out after struggling to hard.

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Re: PESO - The gardeners wall

2012-06-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
Forgot to say: Gardeners wall is the first picture.

The next is from a outbuilding some place else (I think I've showed it
before, just needed some context for the first)

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2012/6/5 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com:
 This link leads to two pictures.
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/search/label/M%C3%B8te%20med%20veggen
 I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

 To make good photographs out of something two dimensional is rather
 challenging.
 The norwegian title translates to hit the wall. Thats a Norwegian
 saying about what happenes (figuratively speaking) when you are burned
 out after struggling to hard.

 Comments appreciated.

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 My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/

 
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RE: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tanya Love


Lol! There is no such link in existence!  They are referring to a time, many
moons ago (circa 2004) when I had a certain medical procedure on said
girls and proudly showed the results off.

I learned my lesson, and won't be repeating it again! Lol.


The procedure, or showing off?

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Re: PESO - The gardeners wall

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Dan Matyola
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Tim   wrote:  I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

Something there is that doesn't love a wall .  .  .  .

Still it sound like it could be a very interesting project.

Dan

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 This link leads to two pictures.
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/search/label/M%C3%B8te%20med%20veggen
 I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

 To make good photographs out of something two dimensional is rather
 challenging.
 The norwegian title translates to hit the wall. Thats a Norwegian
 saying about what happenes (figuratively speaking) when you are burned
 out after struggling to hard.

 Comments appreciated.

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Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread Don Guthrie

Thanks for looking and commenting. Let me say, I wish I had your style.

When I took the photo I envisioned the HDR version and took the 
appropriate exposures to process. While I like the BW version the HDR 
was what I saw when I clicked the shutter and it turned out the way I 
hoped it would for better or worse. Glad you liked the BW.  Thanks again.





Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:46:05 -0700
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: An example of timeless design and style
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Lovely car.
I love the BW rendering. The HDR makes me wince a little bit, not my style.

G



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Re: Re- An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Steve, the Fairlane was my 1st new car. My brothers 1st new car 
was the '68 Mustang  he seriously considered putting it on blocks for 
10 years but decided there were better places to invest his money. Oh well.







Message: 2
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:34:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: Re- An example of timeless design and style
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Nice.  The HDR makes a nice image in this case.  My Dada had a late
50's Belair, followed by a Ford Fairlane, followed by a '65 Mustang.
The worst part is that I had a real shot at the Mustang back in '78.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:

As I remember Ken mine took oil by the quart - every week or two.

Thanks for the look and yes the HDR is my preferred version. I saw some HDR
cars done by Rick Sammon and even though he's a Canon user I did like what
he did with cars in Cuba.

?Respectfully yours ..DG



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Re: TEST

2012-06-05 Thread Paul Sorenson

Looks like everything's blocked...nothing getting in or our of NJ.

On 6/5/2012 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Nope didn't get it no, not at all, all blank...

On 6/5/2012 12:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

There were no messages from the PDML this morning, and I received no
confirmation of the two posts I made earlier today.

Therefore, this is a test to see if things are back to normal -- if
they can ever be described as normal on the PDML.

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Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread Don Guthrie

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National Geographic would take the BW rendering if the car had been
found on the street in Havana. The other one doesn't really do anything
for me.



Thanks for looking, Glad you lied the BW and yes I suspect just about 
any pictures taken in Havana could get published.


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Re: PESO - The gardeners wall

2012-06-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks, but I'm not sure if I understand this comment Dan.
May be a language barrier.

Care to elaborate?

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2012/6/5 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Dan Matyola
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 Tim   wrote:  I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

 Something there is that doesn't love a wall .  .  .  .

 Still it sound like it could be a very interesting project.

 Dan

 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 This link leads to two pictures.
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/search/label/M%C3%B8te%20med%20veggen
 I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

 To make good photographs out of something two dimensional is rather
 challenging.
 The norwegian title translates to hit the wall. Thats a Norwegian
 saying about what happenes (figuratively speaking) when you are burned
 out after struggling to hard.

 Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - The gardeners wall

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Sorry, Tim.

My quote was from a famous Amnerican poem:

MENDING WALL
Robert Frost

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun,
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
'Stay where you are until our backs are turned!'
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of out-door game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
There where it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, 'Good fences make good neighbors'.
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
'Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows?
But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.' I could say 'Elves' to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me~
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, Good fences make good neighbors.


Dan Matyola
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 Thanks, but I'm not sure if I understand this comment Dan.
 May be a language barrier.

 Care to elaborate?

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 2012/6/5 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 Tim   wrote:  I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

 Something there is that doesn't love a wall .  .  .  .

 Still it sound like it could be a very interesting project.

 Dan

 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 This link leads to two pictures.
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/search/label/M%C3%B8te%20med%20veggen
 I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

 To make good photographs out of something two dimensional is rather
 challenging.
 The norwegian title translates to hit the wall. Thats a Norwegian
 saying about what happenes (figuratively speaking) when you are burned
 out after struggling to hard.

 Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - The gardeners wall

2012-06-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Exact same phrase in common colloquial English usage: to hit the wall.

I really like your rendering with the colour and texture. Very nice.


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 This link leads to two pictures.
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/search/label/M%C3%B8te%20med%20veggen
 I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

 To make good photographs out of something two dimensional is rather
 challenging.
 The norwegian title translates to hit the wall. Thats a Norwegian
 saying about what happenes (figuratively speaking) when you are burned
 out after struggling to hard.

 Comments appreciated.

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Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
Also a factor, the longer the lens, the narrower the depth of field at the same 
f stop on a shorter lens.

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Larry Colen wrote:

I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying 
to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, 
and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them.

The sweet spot for sharpness is usually around f/5.6-f/8, depending on
the lens. Of course, depending on the lens and the composition of your
photo you might need more depth of field than the optimum aperture
yields, so sharpness and DOF is usually a compromise. (Also, sharpness
and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get
motion blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem when
shooting waterfalls and such and I'm forced to stop way down to f/22 -
another reason I'm wishing for a DSLR with *lower* ISO settings.)

With a Pentax camera and a Pentax lens it's easy to find the sharpest
aperture: Just set the camera's Program exposure line into MTF mode
and use Program auto exposure: the camera will read the MTF data
that's written into the chip in the lens and set the aperture to the
optimum value for that lens. I don't know of any other camera maker
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Subject: Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Larry, As always time was a constraint. I wanted to try different 
angles  lens but my vision was HDR so 5 snaps and I was off. I want to 
go back maybe the car is parked there every day.


http://donspix.posterous.com/a-60-year-old-example-of-timeless-style-and-d



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The second is a classic HDR of a car photo. Well done.  I'd like to see it 
cropped in a lot tighter, the car is a lot more interesting than the building.




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Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread Don Guthrie
Oh yes we never forget our 1st one do we?. I did love that straight 
stick and learning to get to second and third.





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My first car was a 1950 Plymouth Special Deluxe (2 dr. sedan) like
this one only black:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacksnell707/3025596031/lightbox/
My grandfather purchased it at a farm auction for $11. We pulled it
home, rebuilt the brakes and put a clutch plate in it and I drove it
to work and school.

A couple of months earlier, my cousin's grandfather had purchased him
his first car, a 1953 Cranbrooke, for $12.50 at another farm auction.
That meant that I beat him by $1.50, although one could correctly
argue that he got a three years' newer car for his $1.50.

I like the car, but I wasn't exactly cool, since this was the mid-70s
when the cool kids were driving Mustangs and Chevelle's and such.
Something tells me that most of those Mustang and Chevelle are now
Canon and Nikon shooters.
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: )
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Subject: Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread Don Guthrie

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Great job with both versions.  The HDR treatment is especially
striking.  The clean background really helps as Frank mentioned.


Thanks Brian so glad you liked them. It is hard to take pictures like 
this at old car shows because there are so many other vehicles in the 
way. I was lucky to find this one sitting in front of a building with 
few distractions.



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RE: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-05 Thread Don Guthrie
Hey thanks Frank, I know you know how hard it is to work out in the 
uncontrolled street.s I was lucky this time.





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The hdr version is especially striking.

The background was nice to you. It's hard to get a shot of a parked car without 
some crap getting in the way (wires, lamposts, other cars, pedestrians, ugly 
backdrop. This one works to make an overall wonderful photo.

Cheers,
frank

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RE: PESO - PAD - Omaha World-Herald Print-a-Day-8

2012-06-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Very strong image, beautifully rendered. 

Cheers,
frank 

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Subject: PESO - PAD - Omaha World-Herald Print-a-Day-8

This is number 8 in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

http://georges.posterous.com/omaha-world-herald-print-a-day-8

The strong contrast and diagonal lines in this photo are what make it
interesting to me.  I don't have any particular connection to the
building or it's occupant.  I just find it graphically interesting.

The green street sign and the blue sky were the only challenging parts
of this print.  For me, this was an example of trying to make a print
that looked right, rather than accurate.  The green street sign has
some reflective material on it's surface and just looked pretty bad.

It took a few adjustments in the HSL panel of Lightroom to make it
look like I remembered the day.  The sky looked way too blue, so I
decreased the blue hue slider.  I increased the green saturation
slider a bit.  I also decreased the aqua luminance and increased the
blue a bit.

I like this photo but it's nothing I'd put on my wall.

gs

George Sinos

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Re: BESO wood work

2012-06-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
You're such a Canadian!

;-)

cheers, eh?
frank

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On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 All set for next winter.

Well some one is for sure.:-) Its soft Maple, i kept some for
kindling, some is going for fire pits and the majority is going to a
sugar bush for their boiler.

 ;-)

 cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

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 Sent: June 4, 2012 6/4/12
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 Subject: BESO wood work

 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.ca/

 Finally cleaned up the piles into one neat pile. Let the drying begin/

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RE: PESO - The gardeners wall

2012-06-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Like 'em both. You're right, could be the start of a very interesting series.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com
Sent: June 5, 2012 6/5/12
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Subject: PESO - The gardeners wall

This link leads to two pictures.
http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/search/label/M%C3%B8te%20med%20veggen
I think it's a start of a project of photos of walls.

To make good photographs out of something two dimensional is rather
challenging.
The norwegian title translates to hit the wall. Thats a Norwegian
saying about what happenes (figuratively speaking) when you are burned
out after struggling to hard.

Comments appreciated.

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RE: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Matters not. They are forever burned into my memory.

Btw, congrats on your recent big success. Well deserved.

Cheers,
frank

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Lol! There is no such link in existence!  They are referring to a time, many
moons ago (circa 2004) when I had a certain medical procedure on said
girls and proudly showed the results off.

I learned my lesson, and won't be repeating it again! Lol.

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On May 31, 2012, at 19:10 , P. J. Alling wrote:

 This from the woman who showed us the girls.

URL Please. I missed that somehow.

Already made my res. for flight to London to take snaps of the hat slowly
disappearing into Cotty's maw.


 On 5/31/2012 9:38 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
 ...but you didn't hear it from me.
 
 Let me say two things only:
 
 1. September
 2. FF
 
 I can hardly contain myself!!
 
 tan. :-)
 
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RE: PESO: Fleet Week Marines

2012-06-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
One doesn't think of a smiling Marine but I guess they have light moments like 
the rest of us. Fun shot, very well timed!

For some reason I like the Chase sign in the background. Makes me think they 
were chasing and caught the fellow with his hands up.

;-)

Btw (and feel free to not answer as I'm about to ask a personal question) were 
you a Marine when you fought in Viet Nam? When you attend an event like Fleet 
Week do you then wear a uniform or hat or something that would identify you as 
a veteran?

Just curious.

If so those kids like the ones in the photo must really look up to, admire and 
respect you.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
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Subject: PESO: Fleet Week Marines

The week surrounding Memorial Day is Fleet Week in New York City:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15860593

Comments and Criticisms are invited.

Dan Matyola
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Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread Darren Addy
re: diffraction vs DOF
Please see Charles Nam's most reasonable *comment* in response to the
article on the following page:
http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2011/06/choosing-optimal-aperture-to-avoid.html

The problem with dealing in mathematical formula is that they are not
Real World and do not take into account the other factors (and
compromises) that go into the IQ you get.

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Live transit

2012-06-05 Thread Bruce Walker
http://sunearthday.nasa.gov/webcasts/nasatv/

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RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-05 Thread J.C. O'Connell
only at same subject to camera distance...

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Also a factor, the longer the lens, the narrower the depth of field at the
same f stop on a shorter lens.

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Subject: Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

Larry Colen wrote:

I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying 
to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, 
and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them.

The sweet spot for sharpness is usually around f/5.6-f/8, depending on
the lens. Of course, depending on the lens and the composition of your
photo you might need more depth of field than the optimum aperture
yields, so sharpness and DOF is usually a compromise. (Also, sharpness
and shutter speed can be a trade-off too if you're trying to get
motion blur from long shutter speed. I run into this problem when
shooting waterfalls and such and I'm forced to stop way down to f/22 -
another reason I'm wishing for a DSLR with *lower* ISO settings.)

With a Pentax camera and a Pentax lens it's easy to find the sharpest
aperture: Just set the camera's Program exposure line into MTF mode
and use Program auto exposure: the camera will read the MTF data
that's written into the chip in the lens and set the aperture to the
optimum value for that lens. I don't know of any other camera maker
that offers this feature.
 
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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread David Savage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3rj7TlzeRs

You really should consider world peace.

:-)

DS

On 5 June 2012 22:16, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 Lol! There is no such link in existence!  They are referring to a time, many
 moons ago (circa 2004) when I had a certain medical procedure on said
 girls and proudly showed the results off.

 I learned my lesson, and won't be repeating it again! Lol.

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 Subject: Re: I have a secret...

 On May 31, 2012, at 19:10 , P. J. Alling wrote:

 This from the woman who showed us the girls.

 URL Please. I missed that somehow.

 Already made my res. for flight to London to take snaps of the hat slowly
 disappearing into Cotty's maw.


 On 5/31/2012 9:38 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
 ...but you didn't hear it from me.

 Let me say two things only:

 1. September
 2. FF

 I can hardly contain myself!!

 tan. :-)

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Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread ronaldo
Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ronaldo, I am Brazilian and 
I live in the city of Fortaleza, Ceara. I am a Canon user and recently, through 
a friend, I started doing a few clicks using their Pentax Kr and he showed me 
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Hours of fun

2012-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling

Virtual camera size comparison.

http://camerasize.com/compare/

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Re: Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Welcome aboard, Ronaldo!

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Re: Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread Paul Sorenson

Welcome!

-p

On 6/5/2012 6:39 PM, rona...@skyairlines.com.br wrote:

Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ronaldo, I am Brazilian and 
I live in the city of Fortaleza, Ceara. I am a Canon user and recently, through 
a friend, I started doing a few clicks using their Pentax Kr and he showed me 
this mailing list to delve into the resources of this wonderful machine.
I hope I can contribute and learn a lot from you.

Regards

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Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread luiz felipe

Ronaldo's words:
Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ronaldo, I am 
Brazilian and I live in the city of Fortaleza, Ceara. I am a Canon user 
and recently, through a friend, I started doing a few clicks using 
their Pentax Kr and he showed me this mailing list to delve into the 
resources of this wonderful machine.

I hope I can contribute and learn a lot from you.

Regards

Ronaldo Bomfim http://flickr.com/ronaldobomfim



Welcome home - all is forgiven now you found Pentax. Your past with the 
Dark Side machines will soon be forgotten. :-)


Serious now, it's very good to read you here. Welcome!

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Re: Hours of fun

2012-06-05 Thread Jeffery Smith
Not a good site for the obsessive compulsive! 

Later…I'm going back to that site. Too bad they don't have the *istD

Regards,

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 Virtual camera size comparison.
 
 http://camerasize.com/compare/
 
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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a hoo!

Or hooters.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:33 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3rj7TlzeRs

 You really should consider world peace.

 :-)

 DS

 On 5 June 2012 22:16, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 Lol! There is no such link in existence!  They are referring to a time, many
 moons ago (circa 2004) when I had a certain medical procedure on said
 girls and proudly showed the results off.

 I learned my lesson, and won't be repeating it again! Lol.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:48 PM
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 Subject: Re: I have a secret...

 On May 31, 2012, at 19:10 , P. J. Alling wrote:

 This from the woman who showed us the girls.

 URL Please. I missed that somehow.

 Already made my res. for flight to London to take snaps of the hat slowly
 disappearing into Cotty's maw.


 On 5/31/2012 9:38 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
 ...but you didn't hear it from me.

 Let me say two things only:

 1. September
 2. FF

 I can hardly contain myself!!

 tan. :-)

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Re: Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Welcome.  You can learn a lot from the wiser heads on this list.

Dan
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On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM,  rona...@skyairlines.com.br wrote:
 Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ronaldo, I am Brazilian 
 and I live in the city of Fortaleza, Ceara. I am a Canon user and recently, 
 through a friend, I started doing a few clicks using their Pentax Kr and he 
 showed me this mailing list to delve into the resources of this wonderful 
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Re: PESO: Fleet Week Marines

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Believe me, we Marines certainly had a lot of smiles and laughs on Liberty.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:59 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 One doesn't think of a smiling Marine but I guess they have light moments 
 like the rest of us. Fun shot, very well timed!

 For some reason I like the Chase sign in the background. Makes me think 
 they were chasing and caught the fellow with his hands up.

 ;-)

 Btw (and feel free to not answer as I'm about to ask a personal question) 
 were you a Marine when you fought in Viet Nam? When you attend an event like 
 Fleet Week do you then wear a uniform or hat or something that would identify 
 you as a veteran?

 Just curious.

 If so those kids like the ones in the photo must really look up to, admire 
 and respect you.

 Cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
 Christopher Hitchens

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 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Sent: June 5, 2012 6/5/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Fleet Week Marines

 The week surrounding Memorial Day is Fleet Week in New York City:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15860593

 Comments and Criticisms are invited.

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Re: PESO: Fleet Week Marines

2012-06-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
A nice moment. Good to see the guys having a good time.
Paul
On Jun 5, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Believe me, we Marines certainly had a lot of smiles and laughs on Liberty.
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:59 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 One doesn't think of a smiling Marine but I guess they have light moments 
 like the rest of us. Fun shot, very well timed!
 
 For some reason I like the Chase sign in the background. Makes me think 
 they were chasing and caught the fellow with his hands up.
 
 ;-)
 
 Btw (and feel free to not answer as I'm about to ask a personal question) 
 were you a Marine when you fought in Viet Nam? When you attend an event like 
 Fleet Week do you then wear a uniform or hat or something that would 
 identify you as a veteran?
 
 Just curious.
 
 If so those kids like the ones in the photo must really look up to, admire 
 and respect you.
 
 Cheers,
 frank
 
 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
 Christopher Hitchens
 
 --- Original Message ---
 
 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Sent: June 5, 2012 6/5/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Fleet Week Marines
 
 The week surrounding Memorial Day is Fleet Week in New York City:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15860593
 
 Comments and Criticisms are invited.
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
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PESO -- So Bored

2012-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling

Mike Johnston repellent.

(Like Shark Repellent, only effective.)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20sobored.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread William Robb

On 05/06/2012 10:58 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:





Calling Megaupload a cloud storage company is like calling the Mafia
a global security firm. Nobody legit had anything stored there. It
was/is for warez, swiped movies and music, etc.


I didn't know that.
Which reinforces my point, really. How may people really know about the 
peccadilloes of who they deal with before it hits the news?




Now if the FBI shutdown DropBox or Amazon I'd be interested. The
notion that one of these legit cloud services would be shutdown
because of a court order is dubious and of an extremely low order of
risk.


What happens if Dropbox happens to be next?

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Adjusting K-5 manual focus, quantitative directions?

2012-06-05 Thread Larry Colen
My Pentax focusing screen adjustment shims finally arrived. I'd like to adjust 
it in as few attempts as possible. Is there a good resource that will quantify 
how much to adjust the shim?

I set a test up, with the focus point 1 foot away.  The ruler is at about 45 
degrees.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7158253973/in/set-7215762980375

Autofocus seems to be pretty close to dead nuts (sorry Doug) on.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7158253421/in/set-7215762980375

Manual focus seems to be slightly front focused:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7158255285/in/set-7215762980375

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7343462032/in/set-7215762980375

Enough that when it autofocuses, there is a distinct difference in the split 
prism.

I'd love to be able to plug  12 distance, 3/64 front focus, and whatever the 
shim thickness is into a formula, and get the correct shim thickness on the 
first try.  I suspect that what I'll have to do is measure the shim, change the 
shim to the next thinner, try the same setup, and then interpolate between the 
two to get the proper thickness.


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Re: GESO Pentaxian

2012-06-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 5, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Larry there are some very good shots hiding in there. That man is a
 great subject.

Thank you.  I'd like to do some romance novel cover photos with him.  I've 
got several friends into historical costuming and live near cliffs overlooking 
the ocean.

 
 But sadly, it's *way* too much effort to scroll through all of those

You are right.

 looking for them. I do like 59440.jpg and 59468.jpg especially.

Thanks.

 
 Before you spend another moment comparing MTF charts, I recommend you
 practice editing shoots like that down to 1 to 3 shots to post. Use
 the stars in Lr to rank the and do a few passes.

That's pretty much what I did.  I did a couple passes of rating, then had Zab 
do a pass.  
What is left are the ones I posted for him to choose from.  I'm waiting for his 
feedback.

 
 BTW, try having him tilt his head away from the camera toward his far
 shoulder a little in more shots where he's turned 3/4. Like 59521.jpg.

Thanks.

 
 
 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 I got a text, night before last, from a friend asking if I still had a K20
 charger.  He is starting to teach classes at a dance studio, and was
 planning on getting together with his boss, set up the camera and have her
 take some pictures, but couldn't find his charger.  By the time the dust
 settled, he came over here and we did a quick photo session in my back yard.
 
 K-5, FA77, on a monopod, which seems like a reasonable compromise between
 mobility and stability.  About halfway through the shots of him in a black
 shirt, I put the AF540 on for fill light.
 
 Going over the photos, I've got a distressing number where the camera is
 focused on something closer to me than his eyes, despite my attempt to set
 the focus point on his eyes.  Usually on some high contrast feature of his
 shirt.  The close ups seem to be focused just right, so it's more of a focus
 point selection issue, than a front focus issue.
 I'm still waiting for my focus screen adjustment shims from Pentax, it's
 been about a month.  I ordered a variety, and got a note that a couple were
 on back order, and I can't seem to drop those from my order and get it
 shipped already.
 
 Anyways, comments and suggestions on these are welcome.
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629997379781/
 
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Re: Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando
Welcome Ronaldo,

As long as we don't talk about futebol we are going to be fine
-Fernando, originaly from Argentina :-)

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:39 PM,  rona...@skyairlines.com.br wrote:
 Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ronaldo, I am Brazilian 
 and I live in the city of Fortaleza, Ceara. I am a Canon user and recently, 
 through a friend, I started doing a few clicks using their Pentax Kr and he 
 showed me this mailing list to delve into the resources of this wonderful 
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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

2012-06-05 Thread steve harley

on 2012-06-05 5:59 Walter Hamler wrote

Yes, mine is only 8 months old and I added 3 - 4 gig cards right after
buying. I have also updated to Lion. The machine is fast, but not a
steamroller for sure. I just can't figure out why I come up with the
msg that there isn't enough ram.


i understand that Photoshop Elements (even the current version) is a 32-bit 
applciation; you can divine this from the tech specs here:


http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-premiere-elements/tech-specs.html

Mac OS X v10.5.8 through v10.7 (all applications run native on 32-bit 
operating systems and in 32-bit compatibility mode on 64-bit operating systems)


nothing you can do will make it use more than a maximum of 4GB of RAM


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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread steve harley

on 2012-06-05 6:17 William Robb wrote

Anyone who is depending on cloud storage should be looking at this as the
potential end result of all their carefully uploaded data.


anyone who is depending _solely_ on cloud storage

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Re: OT: Grand Canyon Pano

2012-06-05 Thread steve harley

on 2012-06-02 17:48 Walter Hamler wrote

Here is one pano that I put together.

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Other/Grand-Canyon-North-Tim/23266223_N94xvd#!i=1876914005k=423ZF6Vlb=1s=A


very nice job; i was there in early May last year and was in love with all the 
plant life on the canyon walls, but a rare camera settings mistake foiled my 
attempts to take quality pictures (including sequences intended for panos)



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GESO: Tired of the heat?

2012-06-05 Thread David Mann
These will cool you off.  Normally we get snow in July / August if we get any 
at all but we have about 3 at the moment with more falling.

http://www.multi.net.nz/snow-6-jun/

(just 4 pics)

Cheers,
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Re: GESO Pentaxian

2012-06-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 Before you spend another moment comparing MTF charts, I recommend you
 practice editing shoots like that down to 1 to 3 shots to post. Use
 the stars in Lr to rank the and do a few passes.

 That's pretty much what I did.  I did a couple passes of rating, then had Zab 
 do a pass.
 What is left are the ones I posted for him to choose from.  I'm waiting for 
 his feedback.

But before you post here you need to do a couple more passes and find
the gems. It's a critical part of the only show your best work
manifesto.

I give models, creative partners, etc. twenty to fifty shots
(depending on the person) to look at from a 400 shot session. I show
just 1 shot here usually. Maybe 3 if they are real winners. It's a
tough house.

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PESO - Deera and Friend

2012-06-05 Thread frank theriault
A couple of weekends ago I helped out with a Dog Walkathon in the
neighbouring suburb of Mimico.  It was a fundraiser for the Etobicoke
Humane Society at which I volunteer. (Mimico and New Toronto are old
suburbs which long since got absorbed by Etobicoke, which itself has
been absorbed by Toronto - I know, it's complicated)

When another of the volunteers, Deera, saw my camera she asked if I
could take a photo of her and pooch, as she didn't have a nice picture
of the two of them.  I was happy to oblige:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/06/deera-and-friend.html

Don't know what she thinks yet as I only sent to her tonight.  Hope
she likes it, though.

Hope you like it, too.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Deera and Friend

2012-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Real nice portrait, Frank.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:04 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 A couple of weekends ago I helped out with a Dog Walkathon in the
 neighbouring suburb of Mimico.  It was a fundraiser for the Etobicoke
 Humane Society at which I volunteer. (Mimico and New Toronto are old
 suburbs which long since got absorbed by Etobicoke, which itself has
 been absorbed by Toronto - I know, it's complicated)

 When another of the volunteers, Deera, saw my camera she asked if I
 could take a photo of her and pooch, as she didn't have a nice picture
 of the two of them.  I was happy to oblige:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/06/deera-and-friend.html

 Don't know what she thinks yet as I only sent to her tonight.  Hope
 she likes it, though.

 Hope you like it, too.  Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
Happy you decided to join in, Ronaldo. Welcome!

Jack Davis
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- Original Message -
From: rona...@skyairlines.com.br rona...@skyairlines.com.br
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: Presentation

Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ronaldo, I am Brazilian and 
I live in the city of Fortaleza, Ceara. I am a Canon user and recently, through 
a friend, I started doing a few clicks using their Pentax Kr and he showed me 
this mailing list to delve into the resources of this wonderful machine. 
I hope I can contribute and learn a lot from you. 

Regards 

Ronaldo Bomfim http://flickr.com/ronaldobomfim


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Re: GESO: Tired of the heat?

2012-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
Are you hanging upside down?  ;-)


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From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 7:00 PM
Subject: GESO: Tired of the heat?

These will cool you off.  Normally we get snow in July / August if we get any 
at all but we have about 3 at the moment with more falling.

http://www.multi.net.nz/snow-6-jun/

(just 4 pics)

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: PESO - Deera and Friend

2012-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
You're a good guy, Frank! Bet she'll be pleased.
 

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- Original Message -
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: PESO - Deera and Friend

A couple of weekends ago I helped out with a Dog Walkathon in the
neighbouring suburb of Mimico.  It was a fundraiser for the Etobicoke
Humane Society at which I volunteer. (Mimico and New Toronto are old
suburbs which long since got absorbed by Etobicoke, which itself has
been absorbed by Toronto - I know, it's complicated)

When another of the volunteers, Deera, saw my camera she asked if I
could take a photo of her and pooch, as she didn't have a nice picture
of the two of them.  I was happy to oblige:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/06/deera-and-friend.html

Don't know what she thinks yet as I only sent to her tonight.  Hope
she likes it, though.

Hope you like it, too.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

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RE: GESO: Tired of the heat?

2012-06-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Looks like July in Chicoutimi.

;-)

Cool pix btw.

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com
Sent: June 5, 2012 6/5/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO: Tired of the heat?

These will cool you off.  Normally we get snow in July / August if we get any 
at all but we have about 3 at the moment with more falling.

http://www.multi.net.nz/snow-6-jun/

(just 4 pics)

Cheers,
Dave


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RE: PESO -- So Bored

2012-06-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Poor Mike. He'll never live down rear flowers and cats post, will he?

:-)

Lovely cat photo.

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
Sent: June 5, 2012 6/5/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO -- So Bored

Mike Johnston repellent.

(Like Shark Repellent, only effective.)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20sobored.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: GESO: Tired of the heat?

2012-06-05 Thread P. J. Alling
It ain't hot yet.  We had a couple of days of Hot weather last week, now 
it's Sunny and cool with periods of rain.  Somebody remarked that it was 
like Florida, (you can almost set your watch by the after noon shower). 
My response was, that in Florida at least the rain would be warm.  It 
feels almost like early fall.


On 6/5/2012 10:00 PM, David Mann wrote:

These will cool you off.  Normally we get snow in July / August if we get any at all 
but we have about 3 at the moment with more falling.

http://www.multi.net.nz/snow-6-jun/

(just 4 pics)

Cheers,
Dave





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Re: Adjusting K-5 manual focus, quantitative directions?

2012-06-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Larry, as far as I recall, the Katz Eye focusing screens (according to 
Rachael Katz herself) on K-7 (*) typically required 0.2 or 0.25 mm shims 
instead of the stock one. I think that mine was calibrated by 0.2 mm shim.


I should point out that the service I received from Rachael was truly 
amazing as she helped me all the way through. I have this e-mail 
exchange archived and it is more than 25 e-mails worth.


Having said that, I do remember clearly that just a single attempt was 
enough.


On 6/6/2012 04:19, Larry Colen wrote:

I'd love to be able to plug  12 distance, 3/64 front focus, and
whatever the shim thickness is into a formula, and get the correct
shim thickness on the first try.  I suspect that what I'll have to do
is measure the shim, change the shim to the next thinner, try the
same setup, and then interpolate between the two to get the proper
thickness.


I doubt such a formula would exist. You see, the problem as far as I 
understand is that manufacturing process is inherently imprecise and 
these imprecisions are quantifiable only in statistical terms...


Oh, and by the way, the shims I got from Katz Eye Optics were marked by 
their respective thickness - no need to measure. Nor do I have an 
equipment that can provide accuracy of 0.1 mm anyway...


So I humbly suggest you do it by trial and error. I reckon you might be 
able to look up the thickness of the stock and Katz Eye screens on the 
web and measure the thickness of your specific screen (should it be not 
Katz Eye). Then you would be able to figure out the shim thickness based 
on the assumption that 0.2 or 0.25 mm is a reasonable starting point.


HTH.

Boris

(*) I can only hope that the situation with K-5 is the same as that with 
K-7, as I hope that this kind of production tooling wasn't changed 
between the two cameras.


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Re: Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 6/6/2012 02:39, rona...@skyairlines.com.br wrote:

Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ronaldo, I am
Brazilian and I live in the city of Fortaleza, Ceara. I am a Canon
user and recently, through a friend, I started doing a few clicks
using their Pentax Kr and he showed me this mailing list to delve
into the resources of this wonderful machine. I hope I can contribute
and learn a lot from you.

Regards


Welcome from the little Middle Eastern country, Ronaldo. Get ready for 
the ride of your life :-).


Boris




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PESO: 23 graduates

2012-06-05 Thread Tim Bray
I asked the PDML’s opinion on how I might go about shooting my son’s
Little League’s graduating class.   Thanks a heap for the advice; the
best piece was cutting a 5x7 hole in a piece of paper, to help
compose.  I took some straight-on shots and a couple from up a ladder,
but ended up liking this throwaway-I-thought from off to one side.

http://www.tbray.org/tmp/grads.png

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Re: Presentation

2012-06-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:39 PM, rona...@skyairlines.com.br wrote:

 Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Ronaldo, I am Brazilian 
 and I live in the city of Fortaleza, Ceara.

Another one of those Fortaleza crazies?

 I am a Canon user and recently, through a friend,

Oh THAT troublemaker!

 I started doing a few clicks using their Pentax Kr

I know that particular machine well.  It is a very nice camera.

Many, if not most of the photos in this set, were taken with it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625912266578/

 and he showed me this mailing list to delve into the resources of this 
 wonderful machine. 
 I hope I can contribute and learn a lot from you. 

Welcome.

 
 Regards 
 
 Ronaldo Bomfim http://flickr.com/ronaldobomfim
 
 
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Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-05 Thread David Mann
On Jun 6, 2012, at 1:04 PM, William Robb wrote:

 On 05/06/2012 10:58 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 Calling Megaupload a cloud storage company is like calling the Mafia
 a global security firm. Nobody legit had anything stored there. It
 was/is for warez, swiped movies and music, etc.
 
 I didn't know that.
 Which reinforces my point, really. How may people really know about the 
 peccadilloes of who they deal with before it hits the news?

I'd be tempted to substitute FBI for Mafia in the above sentence ;)  They 
raided his house with armed police and helicopters, and completely destroyed 
his business, all based on an accusation.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/kim-dotcom-s-lawyer-police-raid-mansion-unlawful-4861214

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1objectid=10811178

BTW there were plenty of legitimate users of Megaupload, as with any cloud 
storage provider.  But the feds won't tell you that.

Dave


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