Re: PESO Ziggy and Julie

2012-12-20 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 19, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 On Dec 19, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 That's a really sweet image of the couple. Your timing was excellent.
 
 I can't help thinking that it should be less exposed though. I mean,
 if that scene was as dark as you and the EXIF say, then I expect it to
 look dark rather than looking almost like it was taken in daylight
 with a noisy PS. What's that saying that's making the rounds lately?
 Light reveals, shadow defines. At the very least vignetting the
 subject by darkening the background around them would help.
 
 OK, I gave your suggestion a try.  My goal was a photo of the couple, not so 
 much a photo of a dark room, but here is a darker version:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8289056058/in/set-72157632279369283/
 
 That's good, though I'd dodge the couple's faces and hands to lighten
 them a little (1/3rd stop or so).

Good point, though I lightened everything, then darkened just the light part of 
the background.
Thanks for the suggestions.


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OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Anthony Farr
An interesting set of portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/

regards, Anthony

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PESO - The Founder of the Feast

2012-12-20 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
The local messenger association had its annual holiday dinner last weekend. 

Leah is a former messenger who is still very active in the community and has 
been the head chef (as it were) for our annual feast for many years:

 http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2012/12/blog-post.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. 

Cheers,
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RE: PESO - The Founder of the Feast

2012-12-20 Thread Gerrit Visser
Nice hat, eh? :-)

Gerrit

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The local messenger association had its annual holiday dinner last weekend. 

Leah is a former messenger who is still very active in the community and has
been the head chef (as it were) for our annual feast for many years:

 http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2012/12/blog-post.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. 

Cheers,
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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:38 , Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:

 An interesting set of portraits:
 
 http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/
 

It's early, but so far that's the weirdest thing I've seen all day.

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Re: PESO - The Founder of the Feast

2012-12-20 Thread Bruce Walker
A lovely portrait, Frank. She's comfortable in that hat.


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:00 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 The local messenger association had its annual holiday dinner last weekend.

 Leah is a former messenger who is still very active in the community and has 
 been the head chef (as it were) for our annual feast for many years:

  http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2012/12/blog-post.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
Bingo!

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

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there is a world of difference between choosing  close contact with others,
and having others following you without your  knowledge or permission.

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:38 , Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:

 An interesting set of portraits:

 http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/


 It's early, but so far that's the weirdest thing I've seen all day.

That's the weirdest thing I hope to see for the rest of the year.

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Paul Sorenson

Probably the weirdest thing you'll see for a long while...

-p

On 12/20/2012 8:32 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:38 , Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:


An interesting set of portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/



It's early, but so far that's the weirdest thing I've seen all day.

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
That's a little too close to shooting pictures  of torture/serial killer 
victims for me. It has to be photoshopped (since I  can't imagine anyone 
agreeing to rip scotch tape off their face). 

Marnie  aka Doe 

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An interesting set of  portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/

regards,  Anthony

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Re: PESO - The Founder of the Feast

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
Nice portrait, good colors.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)

In a message dated 12/20/2012 4:05:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
The local messenger association had its  annual holiday dinner last 
weekend. 

Leah is a former messenger who is  still very active in the community and 
has been the head chef (as it were) for  our annual feast for many  years:

http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2012/12/blog-post.html?m=1

Hope  you enjoy. Comments always welcome. 

Cheers,
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Re: PESO Ziggy and Julie

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
Nice portrait of a loving couple,  Larry.

I prefer this shot where she is not looking at you (the  photographer)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8285822107/in/set-72157632279369283/

because  that way she looks more unself-consciously into the hug.

HTH, Marnie  aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 12/20/2012 1:18:08 A.M. Pacific Standard  Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
On Dec 19, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Larry Colen  l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 On Dec 19, 2012, at  11:35 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 That's a really sweet  image of the couple. Your timing was excellent.
 
  I can't help thinking that it should be less exposed though. I  mean,
 if that scene was as dark as you and the EXIF say, then I  expect it to
 look dark rather than looking almost like it was  taken in daylight
 with a noisy PS. What's that saying  that's making the rounds lately?
 Light reveals, shadow  defines. At the very least vignetting the
 subject by darkening  the background around them would help.
 
 OK, I gave your  suggestion a try.  My goal was a photo of the couple, 
not so much a photo  of a dark room, but here is a darker version:
  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8289056058/in/set-72157632279369283/
  
 That's good, though I'd dodge the couple's faces and hands to  lighten
 them a little (1/3rd stop or so).

Good point, though I  lightened everything, then darkened just the light 
part of the  background.
Thanks for the suggestions.


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PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
Not the same group of Redwoods as last time and  not as good, but maybe 
good enough for the calendar I am putting together for  friends. (And I am 
pretty sure they are Redwoods.)

Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley hills and came across a park 
with a grassy area and picnic  tables. There was a Redwood grove up on the 
edge of the hill, so I almost called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

One of the thing I like about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet standing 
under them, peaceful and calming.  

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the image, and the title suits it very well.  It may not be as
dramatic as the redwood image you previously posted, but it
effectively convey the environment in question.
Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Not the same group of Redwoods as last time and  not as good, but maybe
 good enough for the calendar I am putting together for  friends. (And I am
 pretty sure they are Redwoods.)

 Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley hills and came across a park
 with a grassy area and picnic  tables. There was a Redwood grove up on the
 edge of the hill, so I almost called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

 One of the thing I like about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet standing
 under them, peaceful and calming.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

 Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: PESO - The Founder of the Feast

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a very attractive portrait, and fills a unique position in the
series.  I still think that you must do something with the entire
collection, Frank, either a calendar or a book or whatever.  This is a
strong series and would seem to be very meaningful to all the
messengers portrayed and those who know them.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:00 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 The local messenger association had its annual holiday dinner last weekend.

 Leah is a former messenger who is still very active in the community and has 
 been the head chef (as it were) for our annual feast for many years:

  http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2012/12/blog-post.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Very tranquil. Beautiful light, Marnie.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Not the same group of Redwoods as last time and  not as good, but maybe
 good enough for the calendar I am putting together for  friends. (And I am
 pretty sure they are Redwoods.)

 Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley hills and came across a park
 with a grassy area and picnic  tables. There was a Redwood grove up on the
 edge of the hill, so I almost called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

 One of the thing I like about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet standing
 under them, peaceful and calming.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

 Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread John Sessoms

From: Anthony Farr

An interesting set of portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/

regards, Anthony


Interesting is not quite the word that springs to mind.

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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Jack Davis
I get the same quite feeling in a Redwood grove. The forest floor tends to be 
somewhat moist and covered, at least partially, with pine needles which soften 
the sound of your footsteps. Can almost hear an echo if you speak above a 
whisper.
Peaceful places. This successfully conveys that feeling.

Jack 

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Subject: PESO - Redwood Quiet

Not the same group of Redwoods as last time and  not as good, but maybe 
good enough for the calendar I am putting together for  friends. (And I am 
pretty sure they are Redwoods.)

Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley hills and came across a park 
with a grassy area and picnic  tables. There was a Redwood grove up on the 
edge of the hill, so I almost called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

One of the thing I like about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet standing 
under them, peaceful and calming.  

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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OT: Re: Any thoughts on what might cause this? - Update

2012-12-20 Thread John Sessoms

Just a note if anyone is curious ...

I followed up on Mark's suggestion that the video card may be causing 
the freeze-up.


I found a new AGP GEForce 6200 card at the local CompUSA store.

I know some of y'all don't like CompUSA/Tiger Direct, but it's a local 
store for me so anything I buy there I don't have the aggravation of 
keeping track of how much I spent so I can figure out North Carolina's 
stupid $#%@*# internet tax when I do my taxes next year. (Interesting 
... spell-check doesn't like AGP or GEForce, but has no problem with 
$#%@*# ??)


Anyway ...

Checking the system requirements listed on the box, I learned I need a 
300W power supply with 18Amp available on the +12vdc rail to use this card.


I don't remember what the last power supply I installed is rated at, so 
before I actually buy the new video card, I'm going to have to shut 
everything down  get inside the case again to find out if I'm going to 
have to install a new power supply before I can replace the video card.


Don't have a lot of enthusiasm for that at the moment. I know I'll have 
to do it anyway when I replace the video card, but I'm not looking 
forward to doing it twice.


On a positive note though ... because of the attention I've been giving 
this, I have noticed that since I upgraded the memory my monitor isn't 
doing that flashing/changing brightness level as often. In fact, it's 
almost quit doing it.


I think this may be due to my having vacuumed out the case  re-seating 
adapter cards during the upgrade. It also reinforces Mark's suggestion 
that the freeze-up may be caused by the video card.


I have experienced only one freeze-up since my original post. I was 
commenting to a blog post, and it froze when I hit the space-bar at the 
end of a word. I remembered to try the windoze key (in the form of the 
Ctrl+Esc work-around), and as I expected it was no joy. The keyboard is 
completely locked out at that point, as is the mouse.


I'll keep y'all posted.



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Anybody have any experience purchasing from Buydig.com

2012-12-20 Thread P. J. Alling

lately?

Haven't heard about them in a while.

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread P. J. Alling

Interesting isn't the word I'd use...

On 12/20/2012 4:38 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:

An interesting set of portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread P. J. Alling

Lucky for you the year's almost over.

On 12/20/2012 9:48 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:38 , Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:


An interesting set of portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/


It's early, but so far that's the weirdest thing I've seen all day.

That's the weirdest thing I hope to see for the rest of the year.

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread P. J. Alling

Certain types of Scotch tape are designed to come off pretty easy.

On 12/20/2012 10:18 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

That's a little too close to shooting pictures  of torture/serial killer
victims for me. It has to be photoshopped (since I  can't imagine anyone
agreeing to rip scotch tape off their face).

Marnie  aka Doe

In a message dated 12/20/2012 1:38:54 A.M. Pacific Standard  Time,
farranth...@gmail.com writes:
An interesting set of  portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/

regards,  Anthony




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Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

2012-12-20 Thread Boris Liberman

Finally got a shot of that sculpture that I quite like...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-58-jerusalem-bean.html

Naturally the notion that I like it does not necessarily mean that you 
ought to like it either. So please be brutal and honest...


Thanks.

Boris

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Re: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

2012-12-20 Thread steve harley

on 2012-12-20 10:24 Boris Liberman wrote

Finally got a shot of that sculpture that I quite like...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-58-jerusalem-bean.html


that's a clever, engaging shot - i like the imperfect symmetry, but especially 
placing blue clouds in the reflection, with almost fully clouded behind; the 
hint of blue in the corner is helpful too


i have to say i find the image a bit menacing, as if a huge explosion has 
thrown the world into the air like a handful of pebbles





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Re: Anybody have any experience purchasing from Buydig.com

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Old experiences, 4-5 years ago were very good.  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:19 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 lately?

 Haven't heard about them in a while.

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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/20/2012 8:47:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
I get the same quite feeling in a Redwood grove.  The forest floor tends to 
be somewhat moist and covered, at least partially,  with pine needles which 
soften the sound of your footsteps. Can almost hear an  echo if you speak 
above a whisper.

Peaceful places. This successfully conveys that feeling.

Jack 

Thanks, Jack. That feeling is what I was going for. :-)  Thought about it 
after I posted it, and sound does usually seems muffled in the  redwoods.

In a message dated 12/20/2012 8:01:10 A.M. Pacific Standard  Time, 
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Very tranquil. Beautiful light,  Marnie.
---
Thanks Bruce. Glad the light worked out, it was pretty shaded so I've  
lightened the shadows a bit and bumped up the contrast a bit (but think I  used 
higher ISO or something to begin with too). It's usually very or  somewhat 
dark under redwoods.

In a message dated 12/20/2012 7:55:41 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
danmaty...@gmail.com writes:
I like the image, and the  title suits it very well.  It may not be as
dramatic as the redwood  image you previously posted, but it
effectively convey the environment in  question.
Dan Matyola
---
Thanks, Dan. That's what I was aiming for, glad I apparently  succeeded.
 
Marnie aka Doe :-)

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM,   eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Not the same group of Redwoods as last  time and  not as good, but maybe
 good enough for the calendar I am  putting together for  friends. (And I 
am
 pretty sure they are  Redwoods.)

 Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley  hills and came across a park
 with a grassy area and picnic  tables.  There was a Redwood grove up on 
the
 edge of the hill, so I almost  called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

 One of the thing I like  about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet 
standing
 under them,  peaceful and calming.

  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

  Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe  :-)


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Which projectors are better for Photos? (3LCD vs DLP)

2012-12-20 Thread Igor Roshchin


Hi All,

I am sure that some people on the list have the knowledge on this topic.

For the purpose of presenting photo slideshows, which type of projectors
are generally better: 3LCD or DLP?
Criteria: accuracy of colors (preferably without too much of
calibration), high brightness/contrast (so that the presentation can be
done with the ambient light in the room.

To better define the category, - 
I am looking at projectors with at least 2000-2500 lumens, and the 
price range is to stay within $1000-ish. Resolution: at least XGA (1024x768), 
possibly WXGA/HD-720 (1280x780/720).

I've read a few websites with comparisons between the two types (3LCD
and DLP).  There are two major problems with those comparisons: 
1. Most of those comparisons are several years old, and hence do not 
reflect the recent changes in both technologies.
2. They are shallow, biased [by the manufacturers of the specific
type], or both.

Your input, including references to good recent articles on the issue,
is greatly appreciated!


Thank you,

Igor



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Re: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

2012-12-20 Thread Jack Davis
Pleasing shape and interesting reflections.
Reminds me a bit of an apple core. ;-)

Jack

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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:24 AM
Subject: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

Finally got a shot of that sculpture that I quite like...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-58-jerusalem-bean.html

Naturally the notion that I like it does not necessarily mean that you ought to 
like it either. So please be brutal and honest...

Thanks.

Boris

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Re: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
I really like it, Boris. Clouds make it. Bit  curious why there seems to be 
an earth circle in there, suppose it's part of the  sculpture somehow.

Marnie aka Doe 

In a message dated 12/20/2012  9:24:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
bori...@gmail.com writes:
Finally got a  shot of that sculpture that I quite  like...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-58-jerusalem-bean.html

Naturally  the notion that I like it does not necessarily mean that you 
ought to like  it either. So please be brutal and  honest...

Thanks.

Boris

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Re: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a dramatic, engaging and effective image.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Finally got a shot of that sculpture that I quite like...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-58-jerusalem-bean.html

 Naturally the notion that I like it does not necessarily mean that you ought
 to like it either. So please be brutal and honest...

 Thanks.

 Boris

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Re: Anybody have any experience purchasing from Buydig.com

2012-12-20 Thread Igor Roshchin

Last time I bought from them in May and June of 2011 
(spare battery for K-7, netbook memory, simple laptop).
I had no problem with the orders or the store at that time or earlier.
(I've been buying from them since 2005: bought from them
P-DFA 100/2.8 macro in 2007, and if my memory doesn't deceive me, 
*ist DS was purchased from them, back in 2005.)


I know that they improved their return policy 1-2 years ago, but 
did not have a chance/need to test it.

The only problem with them I had was described in this earlier
message to the list:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg598494.html
(That battery, btw, has not been available from BuyDig for at least half
an year now.)

In short, I probably wouldn't be afraid to purchase from them.


HTH,

Igor


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 lately?

 Haven't heard about them in a while.

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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Walter Hamler
Yes, Redwood Quiet would be a good choice. Many years ago my wife and
our dog and I spent two weeks camping the northern CA redwoods as far
north as Eureka and across to Shasta. The second night we were in
Miles Standish State Park, nestled at the bottom of a huge stand of
immense redwoods in our 12' Scotty camper. I didn't want to leave!
The quiet and solitude was intense and I have never slept so good in
my life. I would give anything to be able to go back there for a few
more nights

Walt

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 One of the thing I like about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet standing
 under them, peaceful and calming.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: Which projectors are better for Photos? (3LCD vs DLP)

2012-12-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Igor, my interest in projectors has been primarily for watching
movies, but accurate colour and brightness are big issues for me. I
own a 5 year old Dell XGA projector and I'm investigating a move up to
a WXGA (720p). I can't recommend one type over another to you, but I
can add to your woes:

You need to take the screen into consideration. The screen plays a
major role in the contrast and brightness, but also the colour
accuracy.

You also need to consider the source (PC, DVD player, etc.). This will
affect the colour accuracy. When I recently swapped out my old DVD
player for a Blu-Ray, all the colours went sideways. I did a rough
recal by eye but the black point is still wrong and dark scenes in
some movies look solarized now. Very annoying.

I'd suggest that you should consider the possibility of needing
calibration up front. Many of the monitor calibrators (colorimeters)
can be used for front projection too.


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 Hi All,

 I am sure that some people on the list have the knowledge on this topic.

 For the purpose of presenting photo slideshows, which type of projectors
 are generally better: 3LCD or DLP?
 Criteria: accuracy of colors (preferably without too much of
 calibration), high brightness/contrast (so that the presentation can be
 done with the ambient light in the room.

 To better define the category, -
 I am looking at projectors with at least 2000-2500 lumens, and the
 price range is to stay within $1000-ish. Resolution: at least XGA (1024x768),
 possibly WXGA/HD-720 (1280x780/720).

 I've read a few websites with comparisons between the two types (3LCD
 and DLP).  There are two major problems with those comparisons:
 1. Most of those comparisons are several years old, and hence do not
 reflect the recent changes in both technologies.
 2. They are shallow, biased [by the manufacturers of the specific
 type], or both.

 Your input, including references to good recent articles on the issue,
 is greatly appreciated!


 Thank you,

 Igor



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Re: Which projectors are better for Photos? (3LCD vs DLP)

2012-12-20 Thread George Sinos
I agree with Bruce.  Our camera club has used three different
projectors over the years and the screen seems to have as much or more
effect than the projector.

We calibrate with a ColorMunki and that helps, but in out current
location we're stuck with a less than desirable screen supplied by the
facility.  The ColorMunki calibration goes a long way toward helping
get correct colors, but there's only so much you can do with
brightness and contrast when you have a bad screen.

gs

George Sinos

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www.georgesphotos.net
plus.georgesinos.com


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Igor, my interest in projectors has been primarily for watching
 movies, but accurate colour and brightness are big issues for me. I
 own a 5 year old Dell XGA projector and I'm investigating a move up to
 a WXGA (720p). I can't recommend one type over another to you, but I
 can add to your woes:

 You need to take the screen into consideration. The screen plays a
 major role in the contrast and brightness, but also the colour
 accuracy.

 You also need to consider the source (PC, DVD player, etc.). This will
 affect the colour accuracy. When I recently swapped out my old DVD
 player for a Blu-Ray, all the colours went sideways. I did a rough
 recal by eye but the black point is still wrong and dark scenes in
 some movies look solarized now. Very annoying.

 I'd suggest that you should consider the possibility of needing
 calibration up front. Many of the monitor calibrators (colorimeters)
 can be used for front projection too.


 On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 Hi All,

 I am sure that some people on the list have the knowledge on this topic.

 For the purpose of presenting photo slideshows, which type of projectors
 are generally better: 3LCD or DLP?
 Criteria: accuracy of colors (preferably without too much of
 calibration), high brightness/contrast (so that the presentation can be
 done with the ambient light in the room.

 To better define the category, -
 I am looking at projectors with at least 2000-2500 lumens, and the
 price range is to stay within $1000-ish. Resolution: at least XGA (1024x768),
 possibly WXGA/HD-720 (1280x780/720).

 I've read a few websites with comparisons between the two types (3LCD
 and DLP).  There are two major problems with those comparisons:
 1. Most of those comparisons are several years old, and hence do not
 reflect the recent changes in both technologies.
 2. They are shallow, biased [by the manufacturers of the specific
 type], or both.

 Your input, including references to good recent articles on the issue,
 is greatly appreciated!


 Thank you,

 Igor



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Re: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

2012-12-20 Thread Jack Davis
I believe you're looking at the lower portion of the base as reflected by the 
top portion. 

Jack ??

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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

I really like it, Boris. Clouds make it. Bit  curious why there seems to be 
an earth circle in there, suppose it's part of the  sculpture somehow.

Marnie aka Doe 

In a message dated 12/20/2012  9:24:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
bori...@gmail.com writes:
Finally got a  shot of that sculpture that I quite  like...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-58-jerusalem-bean.html

Naturally  the notion that I like it does not necessarily mean that you 
ought to like  it either. So please be brutal and  honest...

Thanks.

Boris

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Re: Which projectors are better for Photos? (3LCD vs DLP)

2012-12-20 Thread Jostein Øksne

Igor,
With the same lightbulb, the DLPs deliver brighter images than do LCD 
because of the difference in technology, so it's usually hard to beat the 
DLP on brightness. However, in my experience, many DLPs have difficulties 
with yellow hues that goes beyond what can be rectified by calibration.  LCD 
projectors will also need calibration, tho... :-)


I think my advice would be to go for an LCD model that sports a sRGB mode as 
one of its preset colour modes, and prepare to spend a good bit of money on 
a decent canvas for it.


Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org

To: PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:00 PM
Subject: Which projectors are better for Photos? (3LCD vs DLP)





Hi All,

I am sure that some people on the list have the knowledge on this topic.

For the purpose of presenting photo slideshows, which type of projectors
are generally better: 3LCD or DLP?
Criteria: accuracy of colors (preferably without too much of
calibration), high brightness/contrast (so that the presentation can be
done with the ambient light in the room.

To better define the category, -
I am looking at projectors with at least 2000-2500 lumens, and the
price range is to stay within $1000-ish. Resolution: at least XGA 
(1024x768),

possibly WXGA/HD-720 (1280x780/720).

I've read a few websites with comparisons between the two types (3LCD
and DLP).  There are two major problems with those comparisons:
1. Most of those comparisons are several years old, and hence do not
reflect the recent changes in both technologies.
2. They are shallow, biased [by the manufacturers of the specific
type], or both.

Your input, including references to good recent articles on the issue,
is greatly appreciated!


Thank you,

Igor



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Re:PESO - The Founder of the Feast

2012-12-20 Thread Don Guthrie

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
That's a fine photo of Christmas cheer.



Message: 3
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:00:38 + (UTC)
From:knarftheria...@gmail.com  knarftheria...@gmail.com
To:PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - The Founder of the Feast
Message-ID:

1549147769.47978.1356004847608.javamail.se...@ap0.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

The local messenger association had its annual holiday dinner last weekend.

Leah is a former messenger who is still very active in the community and has been the 
head chef (as it were) for our annual feast for many years:

  http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2012/12/blog-post.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread kwaller

They all look stuck up to me !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com

Subject: OT - Scotch Tape Series



An interesting set of portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/

regards, Anthony



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Re: PESO - The Founder of the Feast

2012-12-20 Thread kwaller

Nice capture knarF! I'm sure she'd appreciate a copy.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO - The Founder of the Feast


The local messenger association had its annual holiday dinner last 
weekend.


Leah is a former messenger who is still very active in the community and 
has been the head chef (as it were) for our annual feast for many years:


http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.ca/2012/12/blog-post.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
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I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread mike wilson
... but the vision of a Pentax rep, combined with the price dropping 
below 600GBP and interest-free credit means that I am now a K-5 owner.


Even worse, the i-fc is available on the Pentax and Tamron lens lineups.

I'm doomed.
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peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch

2012-12-20 Thread Don Guthrie
I quite like this blown up large. CC welcomed before I start posting it 
everywhere. K-5 and 50-300.



http://donspix.posterous.com/snow-adorns-the-holly-branch-just-in-time-for#!/

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January PUG - Countdown

2012-12-20 Thread Brian Walters

'morning all

Well it's Dec 21 here and the apocalypse hasn't happened - admittedly,  
the day is young...


However, it looks as if those of you who have been holding off  
submitting (on the basis that we wouldn't be around view the gallery)  
can now safely submit.


Three submissions so far.

The details:

Theme: Texture.

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.




Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
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Re: peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Don,
Well done.  They say it's coming here by nightfall.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 I quite like this blown up large. CC welcomed before I start posting it
 everywhere. K-5 and 50-300.


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Re: I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mike,
What is i-fc?
Regards,  Bob S.

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 ... but the vision of a Pentax rep, combined with the price dropping below
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 Even worse, the i-fc is available on the Pentax and Tamron lens lineups.

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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread kwaller

Hi Marnie - I like the subject  composition but feel its too dark overall.
I ran it thru photoshop to see if it was my PC or what.
I got a much more pleasing (to me)  vibrant image by adjusting the white 
point in levels. The numerous tiny white spots (sky peeking thru I believe) 
in your image are producing  a tiny bit of info at the far RH side - white 
point - of the histogram, I adjusted the white point significantly to the LH 
side to the point just shy of affecting the colors, and while the white 
points were brighter it produced a more attractive image - IMO - YMMV.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: eactiv...@aol.com

Subject: PESO - Redwood Quiet



Not the same group of Redwoods as last time and  not as good, but maybe
good enough for the calendar I am putting together for  friends. (And I am
pretty sure they are Redwoods.)

Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley hills and came across a park
with a grassy area and picnic  tables. There was a Redwood grove up on the
edge of the hill, so I almost called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

One of the thing I like about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet standing
under them, peaceful and calming.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

Comments  welcome.

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Re: I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:

... but the vision of a Pentax rep, combined with the price dropping  
below 600GBP and interest-free credit means that I am now a K-5 owner.


Even worse, the i-fc is available on the Pentax and Tamron lens lineups.

I'm doomed.



Aren't we all?

If the Mayans are right, you'll never have to repay the credit, so  
spend up big!


On the other hand, if the Mayans are right you've only got a few hours  
to take lots of photos...



Cheers

Brian

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Re: peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch

2012-12-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Quite beautiful, Don.


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 I quite like this blown up large. CC welcomed before I start posting it
 everywhere. K-5 and 50-300.


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Re: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

2012-12-20 Thread kwaller

Certainly an unusual subject.

For my $.02 worth - The subject needs more room in the image, its too close 
to the edges  the building on the RH side needs to go. I do think the 
centering works in this instance. An even lower perspective might be even 
more interesting.



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- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

Subject: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean



Finally got a shot of that sculpture that I quite like...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-58-jerusalem-bean.html

Naturally the notion that I like it does not necessarily mean that you 
ought to like it either. So please be brutal and honest...


Thanks.

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Re: Anybody have any experience purchasing from Buydig.com

2012-12-20 Thread Tom C
I've purchased from them in the last 12 months and numerous times in
the past 10 years. No issues or complaints.

Tom C,

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Re: Peso The Winter Farm

2012-12-20 Thread Don Guthrie

Thanks for look and comments, Boris.


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It most certainly works for me, Don.

On 12/17/2012 11:05 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

The weather has been grey  gloomy but I could not wait for decent
clouds and this is just what Iowa looks like without some Winter snow.

Comments  Critique always welcomed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/8282416548/in/photostream/lightbox/




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Re: Anybody have any experience purchasing from Buydig.com

2012-12-20 Thread Tom C
And that comes from a troll, so you can buy with confidence.

Tom C.

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 I've purchased from them in the last 12 months and numerous times in
 the past 10 years. No issues or complaints.

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Re: peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch

2012-12-20 Thread kwaller

Well captured !

A bit of a nit is the LRH corner  the snow covered leaf that appears as a 
dark line - I'd get rid of it, clone it out .


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- Original Message - 
From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com

Subject: peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch


I quite like this blown up large. CC welcomed before I start posting it 
everywhere. K-5 and 50-300.



http://donspix.posterous.com/snow-adorns-the-holly-branch-just-in-time-for#!/



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Re: peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch

2012-12-20 Thread Jack Davis
Beautifully sharp and well composed. 
NICE!
 
Jack
 
 

From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
To: pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:24 PM
Subject: peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch

I quite like this blown up large. CC welcomed before I start posting it 
everywhere. K-5 and 50-300.


http://donspix.posterous.com/snow-adorns-the-holly-branch-just-in-time-for#!/

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Re: Anybody have any experience purchasing from Buydig.com

2012-12-20 Thread kwaller

And that comes from a troll, so you can buy with confidence.


FYI - In Michigan anyone living below (south of) the bridge (Mackinaw 
Bridge) is called a troll.


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- Original Message - 
From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Anybody have any experience purchasing from Buydig.com



And that comes from a troll, so you can buy with confidence.

Tom C.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

I've purchased from them in the last 12 months and numerous times in
the past 10 years. No issues or complaints.

Tom C,



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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
Huh. I sort of know that having seen it in some  movie (not scotch tape, 
but hose, women's stockings, same idea, it distorts the  features).

You have looked at his other photos on site, right? Models  painted white 
then dripped with some red that looks sort of like blood.

I  guess one can be happy he's doing his whatever fantasies with 
photography rather  than in real life. Or so one hopes.

Marnie aka Doe And I made my previous  statement BEFORE I looked at his 
other pics. 

On 21 December 2012 02:18,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 That's a little too close to shooting  pictures of torture/serial killer
 victims for me. It has to be  photoshopped (since I can't imagine anyone
 agreeing to rip scotch tape  off their face).


In a message dated 12/20/2012 1:38:24 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
farranth...@gmail.com writes:
Scotch tape face wrapping is a  lesser known alternative to the classic
bank-robbers' stocking mask.   The last portrait evokes this historical
usage,  
http://wesnamanphotography.com/wp-content/gallery/scotch-tape/will-done_.jpg.
Rubber  bands wrapped around the face serve the same purpose, and are
an even more  obscure form of ad-hoc disguise to use when committing
crimes, although they  do leave pressure marks that might finger the
'perp' if he's found within a  few minutes.

regards, Anthony  


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Re: I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread lrc
It will probably prove to be the best mistake you make in 2012.

mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

... but the vision of a Pentax rep, combined with the price dropping 
below 600GBP and interest-free credit means that I am now a K-5 owner.

Even worse, the i-fc is available on the Pentax and Tamron lens
lineups.

I'm doomed.

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very weird, but actually funny, for the most part.
Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:38 , Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:

 An interesting set of portraits:

 http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/


 It's early, but so far that's the weirdest thing I've seen all day.

  -Charles

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Re: January PUG - Countdown

2012-12-20 Thread Stan Halpin

On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 'morning all
 
 Well it's Dec 21 here and the apocalypse hasn't happened - admittedly, the 
 day is young...
 

I think you need to wait for sunset at Tulúm (on the Yucatan peninsula) before 
you can relax. That is the easternmost Mayan site on the mainland . . .

stan


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Re: I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread mike wilson

On 20/12/2012 21:36, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Mike,
What is i-fc?
Regards,  Bob S.


interest-free credit.


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:24 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

... but the vision of a Pentax rep, combined with the price dropping below
600GBP and interest-free credit means that I am now a K-5 owner.

Even worse, the i-fc is available on the Pentax and Tamron lens lineups.

I'm doomed.



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RE: I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread Gerrit Visser
The only regret you will have is not buying the K5 sooner.

Gerrit

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Sent: December 20, 2012 4:19 PM
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On 20/12/2012 21:36, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Mike,
 What is i-fc?
 Regards,  Bob S.

interest-free credit.

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wrote:
 ... but the vision of a Pentax rep, combined with the price dropping 
 below 600GBP and interest-free credit means that I am now a K-5 owner.

 Even worse, the i-fc is available on the Pentax and Tamron lens lineups.

 I'm doomed.


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Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread John Sessoms

I went over to Costco this afternoon to buy my 2013 supply of toilet
tissue.

They had a big mound of Nikon D600 kits (two lenses - 24-85  70-300 +
some wireless plugin device) that caught my eye.

I browsed around a bit  there were other Nikons DSLRs, bridge cameras
(those things that look like a DSLR, but don't have interchangeable
lenses)  point 'n shoots.

Ditto for Canon  Sony.

It was pretty obvious Costco was selling them. A guy was restocking one
the mounds of the Canon DSLR kits while I was there.

No Pentax K-01, K-5 (any flavor), K-30 or WG-1 kits in the store.
Nothing to suggest Pentax even exists anymore, much less that Costco
actually sells them.

I just don't understand how Pentax can expect to attract new users
without cameras in the stores to attract buyers to the Pentax brand.

I was really tempted by the D600 kit. American Express upped my credit
limit last month. The only thing that really held me back was my
determination not to make ANY major purchase before 2013. Plus I really
do want to wait  see if Pentax will introduce a camera I want to buy.

I waited a long time for Pentax to finally introduce the *ist-D. I can
probably wait a bit longer to see if they will ever introduce another
camera I want to buy.

I just don't know if I'm going to live that long.

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:27 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 ... I was really tempted by the D600 kit. American Express upped my credit
 limit last month. The only thing that really held me back was my
 determination not to make ANY major purchase before 2013. ...

 I just don't know if I'm going to live that long.

I think you're just waiting to see if the world ends tomorrow. If it
does, think of the After World's End Sale Days all the major vendors
will have!
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RE: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Bob W

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 eactiv...@aol.com
 
 That's a little too close to shooting pictures  of torture/serial
 killer victims for me. It has to be photoshopped (since I  can't
 imagine anyone agreeing to rip scotch tape off their face).
 

how else are they gonna get it off?

B

 Marnie  aka Doe
 
 In a message dated 12/20/2012 1:38:54 A.M. Pacific Standard  Time,
 farranth...@gmail.com writes:
 An interesting set of  portraits:
 
 http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/
 



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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
Was wondering it it was still too dark. I am not  a photoshopper, but I 
could try some of that in Elements. Maybe. I can only do  levels, actually, I 
don't think I can do white points in levels (if someone  knows better, pls 
correct me).

I gave up on PS years ago. Too costly to  upgrade, too steep a learning 
curve.

Thanks, Ken, I'll look into it.  Anyway, I'm always flattered when someone 
post processes one of my  images.

Marnie :-)  I looked at the metadata, it's a bit soft  because I shot it at 
f4.0. I always forget I can adjust ISO too.

In a  message dated 12/20/2012 12:42:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
kwal...@peoplepc.com writes:
Hi Marnie - I like the subject  composition  but feel its too dark overall.
I ran it thru photoshop to see if it was my PC  or what.
I got a much more pleasing (to me)  vibrant image by adjusting  the white 
point in levels. The numerous tiny white spots (sky peeking thru I  
believe) 
in your image are producing  a tiny bit of info at the far RH  side - white 
point - of the histogram, I adjusted the white point  significantly to the 
LH 
side to the point just shy of affecting the colors,  and while the white 
points were brighter it produced a more attractive image  - IMO - YMMV.

Kenneth  Waller
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- Original  Message - 
From: eactiv...@aol.com
Subject: PESO - Redwood  Quiet


 Not the same group of Redwoods as last time and  not  as good, but maybe
 good enough for the calendar I am putting together  for  friends. (And I 
am
 pretty sure they are  Redwoods.)

 Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley  hills and came across a park
 with a grassy area and picnic  tables.  There was a Redwood grove up on 
the
 edge of the hill, so I almost  called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

 One of the thing I like  about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet 
standing
 under them,  peaceful and calming.

  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

  Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
LOL. 

He is an expert photoshopper, just  look at his other shots. 

M :-)  Oops, there go the eyebrows.  Oops.

In a message dated 12/20/2012 2:36:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
p...@web-options.com writes:

 From: PDML  [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 eactiv...@aol.com
  
 That's a little too close to shooting pictures  of  torture/serial
 killer victims for me. It has to be photoshopped (since  I  can't
 imagine anyone agreeing to rip scotch tape off their  face).
 

how else are they gonna get it off?

B

  Marnie  aka Doe
 
 In a message dated 12/20/2012 1:38:54 A.M.  Pacific Standard  Time,
 farranth...@gmail.com writes:
 An  interesting set of  portraits:
 
  http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/
  



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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread Walt
I was on a tear about this just last week after calling the local brick 
 mortar shop where I bought my K-x only to get the same runaround I got 
when I called six months prior. The guy yammered on about the 
Pentax/Ricoh thing as though I was completely unaware of it. I then 
called Pentax customer service to see if there might be another shop 
within driving distance only to be told that I'd have to live near a BH 
or an Adorama to see a physical specimen.


When I got my K-x, I'd narrowed the choice down to that and the Canon 
T2i. The K-x was cheaper and did everything I wanted a camera to do at 
the time (being my first new DSLR purchase), and I didn't want to wait 
while I saved up more cash for the T2i kit I wanted at Best Buy. So, I 
went to the camera shop and plunked down the dough.


As I said in my series of gripes on Facebook, if I were just starting 
out in photography today, I'd be a Canon shooter. There's just no way in 
hell I would have bought a camera that I could hold in my hands and walk 
out the door with right there on the spot.


The hell of it is, I keep seeing all these great deals on Canon and 
Nikon bodies in classifieds (e.g., a lightly used 7D for $850) and but 
for my complete lack of compatible glass, I'd be sorely tempted to 
change systems. I simply can't afford the investment. So, for the time 
being, barring some manner of financial windfall, I remain a Pentaxian.


I love my cameras, but I sure wish my brand loyalty were being 
reciprocated with some degree of availability.


-- Walt


On 12/20/2012 4:27 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

I went over to Costco this afternoon to buy my 2013 supply of toilet
tissue.

They had a big mound of Nikon D600 kits (two lenses - 24-85  70-300 +
some wireless plugin device) that caught my eye.

I browsed around a bit  there were other Nikons DSLRs, bridge cameras
(those things that look like a DSLR, but don't have interchangeable
lenses)  point 'n shoots.

Ditto for Canon  Sony.

It was pretty obvious Costco was selling them. A guy was restocking one
the mounds of the Canon DSLR kits while I was there.

No Pentax K-01, K-5 (any flavor), K-30 or WG-1 kits in the store.
Nothing to suggest Pentax even exists anymore, much less that Costco
actually sells them.

I just don't understand how Pentax can expect to attract new users
without cameras in the stores to attract buyers to the Pentax brand.

I was really tempted by the D600 kit. American Express upped my credit
limit last month. The only thing that really held me back was my
determination not to make ANY major purchase before 2013. Plus I really
do want to wait  see if Pentax will introduce a camera I want to buy.

I waited a long time for Pentax to finally introduce the *ist-D. I can
probably wait a bit longer to see if they will ever introduce another
camera I want to buy.

I just don't know if I'm going to live that long.




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RE: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 eactiv...@aol.com
 
 You have looked at his other photos on site, right? Models  painted
 white then dripped with some red that looks sort of like blood.

 http://wesnamanphotography.com/wp-content/gallery/scotch-tape/will-
 done_.jpg.


the pictures of the women remind me of a film whose English title is House
of Tolerance. Set in a 'maison close' in fin-de-siecle Paris, it is
ravishing to look at, but there is real horror at the heart of it. Being a
French film it is a metaphor about women. An excellent film, well worth
watching.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jan/29/house-of-tolerance-review-apollo
nide

B


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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Marnie,
Non-sense!  You can do Lightroom.
And find yourself a student to get a $99 discount version..
You can learn as you go, plus
Godfrey is an expert.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:36 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Was wondering it it was still too dark. I am not  a photoshopper, but I
 could try some of that in Elements. Maybe. I can only do  levels, actually, I
 don't think I can do white points in levels (if someone  knows better, pls
 correct me).

 I gave up on PS years ago. Too costly to  upgrade, too steep a learning
 curve.

 Thanks, Ken, I'll look into it.  Anyway, I'm always flattered when someone
 post processes one of my  images.

 Marnie :-)  I looked at the metadata, it's a bit soft  because I shot it at
 f4.0. I always forget I can adjust ISO too.

 In a  message dated 12/20/2012 12:42:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 kwal...@peoplepc.com writes:
 Hi Marnie - I like the subject  composition  but feel its too dark overall.
 I ran it thru photoshop to see if it was my PC  or what.
 I got a much more pleasing (to me)  vibrant image by adjusting  the white
 point in levels. The numerous tiny white spots (sky peeking thru I
 believe)
 in your image are producing  a tiny bit of info at the far RH  side - white
 point - of the histogram, I adjusted the white point  significantly to the
 LH
 side to the point just shy of affecting the colors,  and while the white
 points were brighter it produced a more attractive image  - IMO - YMMV.

 Kenneth  Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original  Message -
 From: eactiv...@aol.com
 Subject: PESO - Redwood  Quiet


 Not the same group of Redwoods as last time and  not  as good, but maybe
 good enough for the calendar I am putting together  for  friends. (And I
 am
 pretty sure they are  Redwoods.)

 Friend and I were sort  of lost in Berkeley  hills and came across a park
 with a grassy area and picnic  tables.  There was a Redwood grove up on
 the
 edge of the hill, so I almost  called  this Unexpected Redwoods.

 One of the thing I like  about Redwoods, it is  usually very quiet
 standing
 under them,  peaceful and calming.

  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

  Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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RE: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread John Coyle
All I can think of to say is - why?

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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An interesting set of portraits:

http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread Darren Addy
 Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

I can tell you where six of them are in my basement workshop.
: )

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Anthony Farr
On 21 December 2012 08:44,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Marnie aka Doe And I made my previous  statement BEFORE I looked at his
 other pics.

I'm almost scared to look.  The Scotch tape series was the only set I
saw, having followed a link to it, and not having looked beyond.  Now
I know where I'm going today.

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
John (and Walt too),

This forum is my substitute for holding a new Pentax in my hands.
I've bought everything mail order, sight unseen.
That's a *ist DS, K-10, K-20, K-7, K-5  K-5IIs.
Once you are locked in by the investment in lenses, you're locked in.
You go for the best price you can.  And that's mail-order,
even 5 years ago when the *ist D was in local camera shops.

You're a hobbyist, not a pro.
What do you NEED to do with that new camera that you can't do right now?
No seriously, how is your current camera/lens holding you back!
Stop falling for all the marketing hype and just shoot some pictures.

Photography is a hard business to make money in.
The successful ones I've seen are better salesmen than photographers.
So just get over it...or wait for Godfrey's
'After the World's End Sale Days'.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:27 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I went over to Costco this afternoon to buy my 2013 supply of toilet
 tissue.

 They had a big mound of Nikon D600 kits (two lenses - 24-85  70-300 +
 some wireless plugin device) that caught my eye.

 I browsed around a bit  there were other Nikons DSLRs, bridge cameras
 (those things that look like a DSLR, but don't have interchangeable
 lenses)  point 'n shoots.

 Ditto for Canon  Sony.

 It was pretty obvious Costco was selling them. A guy was restocking one
 the mounds of the Canon DSLR kits while I was there.

 No Pentax K-01, K-5 (any flavor), K-30 or WG-1 kits in the store.
 Nothing to suggest Pentax even exists anymore, much less that Costco
 actually sells them.

 I just don't understand how Pentax can expect to attract new users
 without cameras in the stores to attract buyers to the Pentax brand.

 I was really tempted by the D600 kit. American Express upped my credit
 limit last month. The only thing that really held me back was my
 determination not to make ANY major purchase before 2013. Plus I really
 do want to wait  see if Pentax will introduce a camera I want to buy.

 I waited a long time for Pentax to finally introduce the *ist-D. I can
 probably wait a bit longer to see if they will ever introduce another
 camera I want to buy.

 I just don't know if I'm going to live that long.

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread Walt

I can't disagree with you at all, Bob.

I've never been disappointed with any of my Pentax purchases since I got 
my K-x. I meant it when I said I truly love my gear. It's just that it's 
difficult to evangelize on behalf of the brand when you're forced to 
tell people, Well, you can't get it in stores. You're just going to 
have to take my word for it: They're great cameras, and you won't find a 
better value. Just the other night, I was trying to push the K-30 on a 
guy who is an aspiring nature photographer who wants to take photos of 
waterfowl from a blind. I ticked off its advantages and the prices 
compared to similarly-appointed bodies from Canon and Nikon, but I just 
can't see an aspiring photographer taking the plunge on a mail-order 
camera without the benefit of someone giving him pointers on how the 
thing works.


And I can't help thinking the brand suffers from this lack of 
availability at brick-and-mortar outlets, and that the brand can only 
stand so much suffering before it finally succumbs to market forces and 
a shrinking pool of devotees.


Sure, it's a piddling thing to get worked into a lather over, but it 
does concern me. I like being a Pentax shooter, and I'd like to be one 
for good. I'm not concerned about full-frame bodies and bleeding-edge 
technology so much as being able to count on the brand's existence in 
the long term. I just don't see how they can win over neophytes and 
converts without at least some corporeal presence at the point of sale.


-- Walt


On 12/20/2012 5:33 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

John (and Walt too),

This forum is my substitute for holding a new Pentax in my hands.
I've bought everything mail order, sight unseen.
That's a *ist DS, K-10, K-20, K-7, K-5  K-5IIs.
Once you are locked in by the investment in lenses, you're locked in.
You go for the best price you can.  And that's mail-order,
even 5 years ago when the *ist D was in local camera shops.

You're a hobbyist, not a pro.
What do you NEED to do with that new camera that you can't do right now?
No seriously, how is your current camera/lens holding you back!
Stop falling for all the marketing hype and just shoot some pictures.

Photography is a hard business to make money in.
The successful ones I've seen are better salesmen than photographers.
So just get over it...or wait for Godfrey's
'After the World's End Sale Days'.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:27 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

I went over to Costco this afternoon to buy my 2013 supply of toilet
tissue.

They had a big mound of Nikon D600 kits (two lenses - 24-85  70-300 +
some wireless plugin device) that caught my eye.

I browsed around a bit  there were other Nikons DSLRs, bridge cameras
(those things that look like a DSLR, but don't have interchangeable
lenses)  point 'n shoots.

Ditto for Canon  Sony.

It was pretty obvious Costco was selling them. A guy was restocking one
the mounds of the Canon DSLR kits while I was there.

No Pentax K-01, K-5 (any flavor), K-30 or WG-1 kits in the store.
Nothing to suggest Pentax even exists anymore, much less that Costco
actually sells them.

I just don't understand how Pentax can expect to attract new users
without cameras in the stores to attract buyers to the Pentax brand.

I was really tempted by the D600 kit. American Express upped my credit
limit last month. The only thing that really held me back was my
determination not to make ANY major purchase before 2013. Plus I really
do want to wait  see if Pentax will introduce a camera I want to buy.

I waited a long time for Pentax to finally introduce the *ist-D. I can
probably wait a bit longer to see if they will ever introduce another
camera I want to buy.

I just don't know if I'm going to live that long.

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt,
I think the best revenge is posting outstanding photos shot with a
Pentax camera and lens.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't disagree with you at all, Bob.

 I've never been disappointed with any of my Pentax purchases since I got my
 K-x. I meant it when I said I truly love my gear. It's just that it's
 difficult to evangelize on behalf of the brand when you're forced to tell
 people, Well, you can't get it in stores. You're just going to have to take
 my word for it: They're great cameras, and you won't find a better value.
 Just the other night, I was trying to push the K-30 on a guy who is an
 aspiring nature photographer who wants to take photos of waterfowl from a
 blind. I ticked off its advantages and the prices compared to
 similarly-appointed bodies from Canon and Nikon, but I just can't see an
 aspiring photographer taking the plunge on a mail-order camera without the
 benefit of someone giving him pointers on how the thing works.

 And I can't help thinking the brand suffers from this lack of availability
 at brick-and-mortar outlets, and that the brand can only stand so much
 suffering before it finally succumbs to market forces and a shrinking pool
 of devotees.

 Sure, it's a piddling thing to get worked into a lather over, but it does
 concern me. I like being a Pentax shooter, and I'd like to be one for good.
 I'm not concerned about full-frame bodies and bleeding-edge technology so
 much as being able to count on the brand's existence in the long term. I
 just don't see how they can win over neophytes and converts without at least
 some corporeal presence at the point of sale.

 -- Walt


 On 12/20/2012 5:33 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 John (and Walt too),

 This forum is my substitute for holding a new Pentax in my hands.
 I've bought everything mail order, sight unseen.
 That's a *ist DS, K-10, K-20, K-7, K-5  K-5IIs.
 Once you are locked in by the investment in lenses, you're locked in.
 You go for the best price you can.  And that's mail-order,
 even 5 years ago when the *ist D was in local camera shops.

 You're a hobbyist, not a pro.
 What do you NEED to do with that new camera that you can't do right now?
 No seriously, how is your current camera/lens holding you back!
 Stop falling for all the marketing hype and just shoot some pictures.

 Photography is a hard business to make money in.
 The successful ones I've seen are better salesmen than photographers.
 So just get over it...or wait for Godfrey's
 'After the World's End Sale Days'.

 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:27 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:

 I went over to Costco this afternoon to buy my 2013 supply of toilet
 tissue.

 They had a big mound of Nikon D600 kits (two lenses - 24-85  70-300 +
 some wireless plugin device) that caught my eye.

 I browsed around a bit  there were other Nikons DSLRs, bridge cameras
 (those things that look like a DSLR, but don't have interchangeable
 lenses)  point 'n shoots.

 Ditto for Canon  Sony.

 It was pretty obvious Costco was selling them. A guy was restocking one
 the mounds of the Canon DSLR kits while I was there.

 No Pentax K-01, K-5 (any flavor), K-30 or WG-1 kits in the store.
 Nothing to suggest Pentax even exists anymore, much less that Costco
 actually sells them.

 I just don't understand how Pentax can expect to attract new users
 without cameras in the stores to attract buyers to the Pentax brand.

 I was really tempted by the D600 kit. American Express upped my credit
 limit last month. The only thing that really held me back was my
 determination not to make ANY major purchase before 2013. Plus I really
 do want to wait  see if Pentax will introduce a camera I want to buy.

 I waited a long time for Pentax to finally introduce the *ist-D. I can
 probably wait a bit longer to see if they will ever introduce another
 camera I want to buy.

 I just don't know if I'm going to live that long.

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread Walt

Lord knows, I try.

Alas, I'm but a wretched servant.

-- Walt


On 12/20/2012 5:50 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Walt,
I think the best revenge is posting outstanding photos shot with a
Pentax camera and lens.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

I can't disagree with you at all, Bob.

I've never been disappointed with any of my Pentax purchases since I got my
K-x. I meant it when I said I truly love my gear. It's just that it's
difficult to evangelize on behalf of the brand when you're forced to tell
people, Well, you can't get it in stores. You're just going to have to take
my word for it: They're great cameras, and you won't find a better value.
Just the other night, I was trying to push the K-30 on a guy who is an
aspiring nature photographer who wants to take photos of waterfowl from a
blind. I ticked off its advantages and the prices compared to
similarly-appointed bodies from Canon and Nikon, but I just can't see an
aspiring photographer taking the plunge on a mail-order camera without the
benefit of someone giving him pointers on how the thing works.

And I can't help thinking the brand suffers from this lack of availability
at brick-and-mortar outlets, and that the brand can only stand so much
suffering before it finally succumbs to market forces and a shrinking pool
of devotees.

Sure, it's a piddling thing to get worked into a lather over, but it does
concern me. I like being a Pentax shooter, and I'd like to be one for good.
I'm not concerned about full-frame bodies and bleeding-edge technology so
much as being able to count on the brand's existence in the long term. I
just don't see how they can win over neophytes and converts without at least
some corporeal presence at the point of sale.

-- Walt


On 12/20/2012 5:33 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

John (and Walt too),

This forum is my substitute for holding a new Pentax in my hands.
I've bought everything mail order, sight unseen.
That's a *ist DS, K-10, K-20, K-7, K-5  K-5IIs.
Once you are locked in by the investment in lenses, you're locked in.
You go for the best price you can.  And that's mail-order,
even 5 years ago when the *ist D was in local camera shops.

You're a hobbyist, not a pro.
What do you NEED to do with that new camera that you can't do right now?
No seriously, how is your current camera/lens holding you back!
Stop falling for all the marketing hype and just shoot some pictures.

Photography is a hard business to make money in.
The successful ones I've seen are better salesmen than photographers.
So just get over it...or wait for Godfrey's
'After the World's End Sale Days'.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:27 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:

I went over to Costco this afternoon to buy my 2013 supply of toilet
tissue.

They had a big mound of Nikon D600 kits (two lenses - 24-85  70-300 +
some wireless plugin device) that caught my eye.

I browsed around a bit  there were other Nikons DSLRs, bridge cameras
(those things that look like a DSLR, but don't have interchangeable
lenses)  point 'n shoots.

Ditto for Canon  Sony.

It was pretty obvious Costco was selling them. A guy was restocking one
the mounds of the Canon DSLR kits while I was there.

No Pentax K-01, K-5 (any flavor), K-30 or WG-1 kits in the store.
Nothing to suggest Pentax even exists anymore, much less that Costco
actually sells them.

I just don't understand how Pentax can expect to attract new users
without cameras in the stores to attract buyers to the Pentax brand.

I was really tempted by the D600 kit. American Express upped my credit
limit last month. The only thing that really held me back was my
determination not to make ANY major purchase before 2013. Plus I really
do want to wait  see if Pentax will introduce a camera I want to buy.

I waited a long time for Pentax to finally introduce the *ist-D. I can
probably wait a bit longer to see if they will ever introduce another
camera I want to buy.

I just don't know if I'm going to live that long.

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Mayans predict ...

2012-12-20 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
... that Pentax announces full frame DSLR.
World comes to an end.

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RE: Mayans predict ...

2012-12-20 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I thought the world would come to an end BEFORE
we get a Pentax FF DSLR...

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To: pdml@pdml.net
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... that Pentax announces full frame DSLR.
World comes to an end.

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Re: PESO - Redwood Quiet

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
I have played with levels a bit in Elements,  removing the flattened white 
end and it is marginally better.

Sure, Bob,  and :-P.

Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-)  Not a student this year, but often  have been in 
the pass, specifically to get software cheaper. Re tongue,  appropriate when 
someone suggests I do MORE work. 

In a message dated  12/20/2012 3:00:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com  writes:
Marnie,
Non-sense!  You can do Lightroom.
And find  yourself a student to get a $99 discount version..
You can learn as you go,  plus
Godfrey is an expert.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20,  2012 at 4:36 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Was wondering it  it was still too dark. I am not  a photoshopper, but I
 could try  some of that in Elements. Maybe. I can only do  levels, 
actually, I
  don't think I can do white points in levels (if someone  knows better,  
pls
 correct me).

 I gave up on PS years ago. Too costly  to  upgrade, too steep a learning
 curve.

 Thanks,  Ken, I'll look into it.  Anyway, I'm always flattered when 
someone
  post processes one of my  images.

 Marnie :-)  I looked  at the metadata, it's a bit soft  because I shot it 
at
 f4.0. I  always forget I can adjust ISO too.

 In a  message dated  12/20/2012 12:42:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 kwal...@peoplepc.com  writes:
 Hi Marnie - I like the subject  composition  but feel  its too dark 
overall.
 I ran it thru photoshop to see if it was my  PC  or what.
 I got a much more pleasing (to me)  vibrant image  by adjusting  the 
white
 point in levels. The numerous tiny white  spots (sky peeking thru I
 believe)
 in your image are  producing  a tiny bit of info at the far RH  side - 
white
  point - of the histogram, I adjusted the white point  significantly to  
the
 LH
 side to the point just shy of affecting the colors,   and while the white
 points were brighter it produced a more attractive  image  - IMO - YMMV.

 Kenneth  Waller
  http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 -  Original  Message -
 From: eactiv...@aol.com
  Subject: PESO - Redwood  Quiet


 Not the same  group of Redwoods as last time and  not  as good, but  
maybe
 good enough for the calendar I am putting together   for  friends. (And I
 am
 pretty sure they are   Redwoods.)

 Friend and I were sort  of lost in  Berkeley  hills and came across a 
park
 with a grassy area and  picnic  tables.  There was a Redwood grove up on
  the
 edge of the hill, so I almost  called  this Unexpected  Redwoods.

 One of the thing I like  about Redwoods,  it is  usually very quiet
 standing
 under them,   peaceful and calming.

   http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/redquiet.html

   Comments  welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe  :-)


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Re: I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Gerrit Visser wrote:

The only regret you will have is not buying the K5 sooner.

I'll second that.
 
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Re: peso 1st Winter snow adorns a holly branch

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
Quite Nice. Well composed. But when I read  holly, awww, shucks, I was 
hoping for a red berry here and there.  Darn.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 12/20/2012 12:25:05  P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
shark50...@gmail.com writes:
I quite like this  blown up large. CC welcomed before I start posting it 
everywhere. K-5  and  50-300.


http://donspix.posterous.com/snow-adorns-the-holly-branch-just-in-time-for#!
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Re: I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Likewise.

Paul Stenquist

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 Gerrit Visser wrote:
 
 The only regret you will have is not buying the K5 sooner.
 
 I'll second that.
 
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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Eactivist
That's kind of tacky.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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They all look stuck up to me !

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Subject:  OT - Scotch Tape Series


 An interesting set of portraits:
  
 http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/
  
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Re: Mayans predict ...

2012-12-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
So THAT's what's causing it.
Please Pentax, No! Go back to the Q!

G

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 ... that Pentax announces full frame DSLR.
 World comes to an end.

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread John Francis

My reaction is that one or two shots might be interesting,
but by the time you've looked at three pages of them it gets
repetetive and tiresome.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 09:15:31AM +1000, John Coyle wrote:
 All I can think of to say is - why?
 
 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia
 
 
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 An interesting set of portraits:
 
 http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/
 
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RE: Mayans predict ...

2012-12-20 Thread John Sessoms

I think it's all just a plot by Cotty. He'd rather destroy the whole
world than eat that hat.

From: J.C. O'Connell

I thought the world would come to an end BEFORE
we get a Pentax FF DSLR...



From: Collin Brendemuehl




... that Pentax announces full frame DSLR.
World comes to an end.

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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread John Sessoms

Correction: What ever happened to Pentax?

From: Bob Sullivan

John (and Walt too),

This forum is my substitute for holding a new Pentax in my hands.
I've bought everything mail order, sight unseen.
That's a *ist DS, K-10, K-20, K-7, K-5  K-5IIs.
Once you are locked in by the investment in lenses, you're locked in.
You go for the best price you can.  And that's mail-order,
even 5 years ago when the *ist D was in local camera shops.

You're a hobbyist, not a pro.
What do you NEED to do with that new camera that you can't do right now?
No seriously, how is your current camera/lens holding you back!
Stop falling for all the marketing hype and just shoot some pictures.

Photography is a hard business to make money in.
The successful ones I've seen are better salesmen than photographers.
So just get over it...or wait for Godfrey's
'After the World's End Sale Days'.

Regards,  Bob S.


Yeah, you can get better prices on-line. Wasn't my point.

What do people look for on-line?

They look for the brands they know about; the ones they've seen at 
Walmart, Costco, Target ... or they buy from Walmart, Costco, Target or 
once upon a time Wolf Camera/Ritz Camera (are there any camera chains 
left?). Sometimes, they even shop at independent camera stores like the 
two here in Raleigh.


They may look at the camera in Walmart  look on-line at Walmart.com for 
a better price and then end up buying from Amazon, Adorama  BH.


But they don't look at Nikon/Canon/Sony at Walmart and then go looking 
on-line for Pentax.


There's actually a couple of different things going on here from my 
point of view.


1. People ain't gonna buy Pentax if they don't know Pentax exists.

And without Pentax being in the stores, for far too many people Pentax 
does *NOT* exist. Pentax needs more than just old fogies like us looking 
on Amazon for the best deal on last year's discontinued model. At some 
point too many of us won't be around any longer and not enough people 
will know Pentax exists to keep the brand viable.


When there's nobody left to buy Pentax cameras, there won't be any new 
Pentax cameras.


2. I want certain things in a new camera. And I *DO* *WANT* a new camera 
(I don't NEED a new camera, but I want one). Pentax doesn't offer 
anything that even comes close to what I want.


But, someone else does. Or at least they offer a camera that gives me a 
whole lot of what I want, say 90%.


The only real drawback is that none of my current lenses will fit it. 
Replacing all that glass is going to be painful. But it's doable.


How much longer does it make sense for me to wait to see if Pentax is 
ever going to offer me a camera that comes close enough to what I want 
that I should wait however much longer it will actually take to get one 
into my hands.


I'll make a little personal prediction here ... one year from today, 
either Pentax will have introduced a Full-frame DSLR that's within close 
enough shouting distance to the Nikon D600 or in 2014 I won't be 
shooting with Pentax any longer.


If so, I'll miss Pentax. I can't begin to say how much that's going to hurt.

I hope I'll be able to console myself with a camera that gives me what I 
want.


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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
1.  It's only a tool.  You should get over your Pentax loyalty.
2.  Yes, there will be $$$ pain involved.
3.  You sure you can't make do with your Pentax stuff?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:46 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Correction: What ever happened to Pentax?

 From: Bob Sullivan

 John (and Walt too),

 This forum is my substitute for holding a new Pentax in my hands.
 I've bought everything mail order, sight unseen.
 That's a *ist DS, K-10, K-20, K-7, K-5  K-5IIs.
 Once you are locked in by the investment in lenses, you're locked in.
 You go for the best price you can.  And that's mail-order,
 even 5 years ago when the *ist D was in local camera shops.

 You're a hobbyist, not a pro.
 What do you NEED to do with that new camera that you can't do right now?
 No seriously, how is your current camera/lens holding you back!
 Stop falling for all the marketing hype and just shoot some pictures.

 Photography is a hard business to make money in.
 The successful ones I've seen are better salesmen than photographers.
 So just get over it...or wait for Godfrey's
 'After the World's End Sale Days'.

 Regards,  Bob S.


 Yeah, you can get better prices on-line. Wasn't my point.

 What do people look for on-line?

 They look for the brands they know about; the ones they've seen at Walmart,
 Costco, Target ... or they buy from Walmart, Costco, Target or once upon a
 time Wolf Camera/Ritz Camera (are there any camera chains left?). Sometimes,
 they even shop at independent camera stores like the two here in Raleigh.

 They may look at the camera in Walmart  look on-line at Walmart.com for a
 better price and then end up buying from Amazon, Adorama  BH.

 But they don't look at Nikon/Canon/Sony at Walmart and then go looking
 on-line for Pentax.

 There's actually a couple of different things going on here from my point of
 view.

 1. People ain't gonna buy Pentax if they don't know Pentax exists.

 And without Pentax being in the stores, for far too many people Pentax does
 *NOT* exist. Pentax needs more than just old fogies like us looking on
 Amazon for the best deal on last year's discontinued model. At some point
 too many of us won't be around any longer and not enough people will know
 Pentax exists to keep the brand viable.

 When there's nobody left to buy Pentax cameras, there won't be any new
 Pentax cameras.

 2. I want certain things in a new camera. And I *DO* *WANT* a new camera (I
 don't NEED a new camera, but I want one). Pentax doesn't offer anything that
 even comes close to what I want.

 But, someone else does. Or at least they offer a camera that gives me a
 whole lot of what I want, say 90%.

 The only real drawback is that none of my current lenses will fit it.
 Replacing all that glass is going to be painful. But it's doable.

 How much longer does it make sense for me to wait to see if Pentax is ever
 going to offer me a camera that comes close enough to what I want that I
 should wait however much longer it will actually take to get one into my
 hands.

 I'll make a little personal prediction here ... one year from today, either
 Pentax will have introduced a Full-frame DSLR that's within close enough
 shouting distance to the Nikon D600 or in 2014 I won't be shooting with
 Pentax any longer.

 If so, I'll miss Pentax. I can't begin to say how much that's going to hurt.

 I hope I'll be able to console myself with a camera that gives me what I
 want.

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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Anthony Farr
On 21 December 2012 13:46, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 My reaction is that one or two shots might be interesting,
 but by the time you've looked at three pages of them it gets
 repetetive and tiresome.


That's the downside of a narrowly themed series.  I don't know what
minimum number qualifies a set of pictures as a series, but they often
seem to be labouring the point before the last entry is reached.
Philippe Hausman’s ‘Celebrities Jumping’ series would have got the
point across in three or four images IMO, but then it possibly
wouldn't have been a series.  It would have been just a few pictures.

regards, Anthony

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Deleted my Instagram account, but I only had one photo on it.  I haven't had 
the app on my phone for some time.  Just didn't hold my interest, so no real 
big protest on my part.  The recent events reminded me I, indeed, did have one 
photo posted to my account.  All gone now.  Cheers, Christine




On Dec 20, 2012, at 8:47 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Bingo!
 
 Marnie aka Doe ;-)
 
 In a  message dated 12/19/2012 11:51:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
 p...@web-options.com writes:
 there is a world of difference between choosing  close contact with others,
 and having others following you without your  knowledge or permission.
 
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Re: OT - Scotch Tape Series

2012-12-20 Thread Christine Aguila



 From: Anthony Farr
 An interesting set of portraits:
 
 http://wesnamanphotography.com/portfolio/scotch-tape-series/

I'll admit it right here:  that's just not my cup of tea.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO - Distraction

2012-12-20 Thread Boris Liberman

What Christine said, what Ken said...

On 12/9/2012 9:47 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

What Ken said!  Cheers, Christine



On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:07 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:


Sure is - Nice capture Paul.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: PESO - Distraction



Looking at other ways of looking.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16657172size=lg



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Re: Mayans predict ...

2012-12-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://themetapicture.com/media/funny-mayans-calendar-tequila.jpg
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Re: PESO 2012 - 136 - GDG

2012-12-20 Thread Boris Liberman

The tonality is superb, Godfrey!

On 12/9/2012 9:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Another new photo, this one made in Vancouver last weekend ...

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8258596436/lightbox

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.

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Re: I know I'll probably regret this...

2012-12-20 Thread Christine Aguila

On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:24 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 ... but the vision of a Pentax rep, combined with the price dropping below 
 600GBP and interest-free credit means that I am now a K-5 owner.
 
 Even worse, the i-fc is available on the Pentax and Tamron lens lineups.
 
 I'm doomed.



Sounds like a good form of doom to me.  You're going to love the K-5!  Cheers, 
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Re: Pentax? You know, I used to have a K1000. What ever happened to them?

2012-12-20 Thread David Parsons
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:46 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 But they don't look at Nikon/Canon/Sony at Walmart and then go looking
 on-line for Pentax.

I did.


 There's actually a couple of different things going on here from my point of
 view.

 1. People ain't gonna buy Pentax if they don't know Pentax exists.

 And without Pentax being in the stores, for far too many people Pentax does
 *NOT* exist. Pentax needs more than just old fogies like us looking on
 Amazon for the best deal on last year's discontinued model. At some point
 too many of us won't be around any longer and not enough people will know
 Pentax exists to keep the brand viable.

 When there's nobody left to buy Pentax cameras, there won't be any new
 Pentax cameras.

 2. I want certain things in a new camera. And I *DO* *WANT* a new camera (I
 don't NEED a new camera, but I want one). Pentax doesn't offer anything that
 even comes close to what I want.

 But, someone else does. Or at least they offer a camera that gives me a
 whole lot of what I want, say 90%.

 The only real drawback is that none of my current lenses will fit it.
 Replacing all that glass is going to be painful. But it's doable.

 How much longer does it make sense for me to wait to see if Pentax is ever
 going to offer me a camera that comes close enough to what I want that I
 should wait however much longer it will actually take to get one into my
 hands.

 I'll make a little personal prediction here ... one year from today, either
 Pentax will have introduced a Full-frame DSLR that's within close enough
 shouting distance to the Nikon D600 or in 2014 I won't be shooting with
 Pentax any longer.

 If so, I'll miss Pentax. I can't begin to say how much that's going to hurt.

 I hope I'll be able to console myself with a camera that gives me what I
 want.


Stop complaining and just switch already.  Even if Pentax does release
a full frame camera next year, it won't have enough megapixels, or the
frame rate won't be high enough, or there won't be enough AF points,
or AF will be too slow, or they won't have FF lenses with modern
coatings, or any of a number of perceived faults that will give people
a reason to bitch and moan about how far behind Pentax is.


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Re: January PUG - Countdown

2012-12-20 Thread Christine Aguila
I aim to play!  When's the deadline?  Cheers, Christine




On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 'morning all
 
 Well it's Dec 21 here and the apocalypse hasn't happened - admittedly, the 
 day is young...
 
 However, it looks as if those of you who have been holding off submitting (on 
 the basis that we wouldn't be around view the gallery) can now safely submit.
 
 Three submissions so far.
 
 The details:
 
 Theme: Texture.
 
 Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
 
 Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
 
 The main requirements are:
 
 * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
 * Max file size: 300k
 * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens 
 used is Pentax.
 * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that 
 the image is displayed correctly on line.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
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Re: December PUG now up. A Revision!

2012-12-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Just had a chance to look at December PUG. Wonderful gallery. Some 
outstanding photos in there...


Boris (being somewhat humbled)

On 12/8/2012 3:32 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day again

It seems that my dyslexia failed to notice that Pete McIntosh's
submission was for the 'Open Gallery' category.  Not your fault, Pete.
  The submission was clearly marked 'Open Gallery'.  My apologies.

Anyway, a quick bit of html hacking has (hopefully) corrected the
mistake, although anyone looking at the gallery for a second time might
need to refresh a few pages to get the sequence of images correct (the
older versions might still be in your browser's cache).

http://pug.komkon.org/





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Re: Boris #58 - Jerusalem Bean

2012-12-20 Thread Christine Aguila
That's an interesting Bean, Boris.  Framing is a bit tight--maybe better light? 
 Cheers, Christine


On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Finally got a shot of that sculpture that I quite like...
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-58-jerusalem-bean.html
 
 Naturally the notion that I like it does not necessarily mean that you ought 
 to like it either. So please be brutal and honest...
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Which projectors are better for Photos? (3LCD vs DLP)

2012-12-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Coincidently, I was just at the Epson web site browsing through the projectors, 
and read Epson recommends at least 2600 lumens.  Just FYI.  Cheers, Christine




On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am sure that some people on the list have the knowledge on this topic.
 
 For the purpose of presenting photo slideshows, which type of projectors
 are generally better: 3LCD or DLP?
 Criteria: accuracy of colors (preferably without too much of
 calibration), high brightness/contrast (so that the presentation can be
 done with the ambient light in the room.
 
 To better define the category, - 
 I am looking at projectors with at least 2000-2500 lumens, and the 
 price range is to stay within $1000-ish. Resolution: at least XGA (1024x768), 
 possibly WXGA/HD-720 (1280x780/720).
 
 I've read a few websites with comparisons between the two types (3LCD
 and DLP).  There are two major problems with those comparisons: 
 1. Most of those comparisons are several years old, and hence do not 
 reflect the recent changes in both technologies.
 2. They are shallow, biased [by the manufacturers of the specific
 type], or both.
 
 Your input, including references to good recent articles on the issue,
 is greatly appreciated!
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 Igor
 
 
 
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