Re: PESO Rosie
Rosie's actually not a model, rather an artist friend who agreed to pose so I could work on my mixed flash and outdoor light technique. Thank you, Dan! On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Interesting angle of view, attractive model, fresh take on a close-in > portrait. It works for me. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> A portrait from the outdoor evening shoot that produced Tres Amigas ... >> >> http://flic.kr/p/f3ydb2 Rosie >> >> Comments welcome. >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: > On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote: >> On 7/6/2013 2:19 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>>On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote: What Aahz, whats this "would need to get a K-5 first... ;-)" ?? With prices hitting the bottom most at around $ 600 please grab one. You wont regret it. Even the K-5 II is hardly $ 70 more than the K-5. >>> >>>The problem isn't the body, it's the glass. I don't own any Pentax >>>equipment currently (I rented for my cruise), and I haven't decided yet >>>what kind of equipment I want to get medium-term. >> >> If I was starting from scratch, I would go with NIkon, better range of >> dslrs and you can use newer af glass, as well as vintage mf glass. >> No FF with Pentax, no vintage mf glass with Canon. > > Nikon weather-resistant lenses are more spendy than Pentax, I don't care > about FF, I like in-camera shake reduction for prime lenses, and I have > a soft spot for Pentax because I grew up with it. Basically, my choices > boil down to Pentax, m4/3, or high-end P&S with occasional equipment > rental when I need the best (the last is what I'm currently doing). > > As I mentioned in another post recently, my impression is that long-term > (more than 5-10 years out), *all* the camera makers are poor bets due to > likely technological disruption, which makes me leery of investing in > glass. 5-10 years out you could be bored with photography, blind or dead. Buy glass now while you can still enjoy it. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Boston fireworks
Outstanding, Dave. Really spectacular shots. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 8:18 PM, David Parsons wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157634499838037/ > > Took these last night during Boston's 4th of July festivities. > > -- > David Parsons Photography > http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com > > Aloha Photographer Photoblog > http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Fireworks
Ha! Good for them I say... On 5 July 2013 17:12, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Chris Mitchell > >> Good firework shots Don. Is July 4th special for some reason? >> >> Yours Britishly, Chris > > > http://imgur.com/p73eGQN > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Rosie
Nice portrait Bruce. I'm in 2 minds about the pillar bisecting her. Take it out and the balance is all wrong. One of those dilemmas... Chris On 6 July 2013 03:09, Bruce Walker wrote: > A portrait from the outdoor evening shoot that produced Tres Amigas ... > > http://flic.kr/p/f3ydb2 Rosie > > Comments welcome. > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting camera > alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... didnt > try to reach inside contacts. > > Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally > but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary > > ann IIRC my IstD did that at the most inopportune times.:-) > > > On 7/5/2013 20:52, Ann Sanfedele wrote: >> >> I had hoped someone would say "that's probably all it is" and that >> someone will do it for me - I'm afraid of doing it myself >> >> ann >> >> >> On 7/5/2013 20:10, Steve Sharpe wrote: >>> >>> Clean the battery contacts? >>> >>> At 8:05 PM -0400 7/5/13, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Oy... Now I have my eyes back but my camera is suddenly acting up mysteriously It's saying the batteries are depleated - but I just put in fresh. I know I got them in right because reversing where they go the info screen shows nothing. My rechargeables are being recharged, so I loaded 4 double AA's that are brand new -- and I know they work. This is particularly upsetting as I reluctantly promised an old friend I would shoot his wedding - just the posted before photos - for a small amount of cash (big for me, small for him) in August. scary. My refrigerator is dying, too and it is only 2 years old - fortunately under warranty and it may only be busted gaskets (door wont stay closed) and those are being replaced but it has been a circus ehre for a couple of weeks. Finally got my great distance glasses and the +250 magnifying flip-ups for working on computer -- all GOOD in that area. and now.. I cant let John do all the kvetching here can I ? SEriously - any clues about what to do with the D would be much appreciated - it is effectively my only camera ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO Rosie
Do real people have skin like that? ;-) You've captured her loveliness, that's for sure. The light (and her skin!) is quite striking. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO Rosie A portrait from the outdoor evening shoot that produced Tres Amigas ... http://flic.kr/p/f3ydb2 Rosie Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Blue and Flowers
I love these sorts of "wall photos"! Some walls just have so much going on, as this one does. Beautiful colours and composition, interesting subjects. A real winner! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13 To: Pentax List Subject: PESO - Blue and Flowers http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1794&size=lg Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Stuff a guinea pig does
Well no hipster would shoot digital that's for sure. It's so ~outre~. Only film will do for a true artiste. Good one Dan (and Pentax content no less!) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: OT: Stuff a guinea pig does http://themetapicture.com/stuff-my-guinea-pig-does-part-2/ Scroll down to the 6th image, the "hipster." Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
Reminds me what a great community this list is. Nothing like it anywhere. Thanks, Doug. And Ann, so glad you revolved your problem. I've had two *istDs, one broke after a fall (still around somewhere but not worth repairing). The other (bought from Dave Brooks) has been a flawless performer. Only take it out at night now but it's still chugging along. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Doug Franklin Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: sick transit my istD ??? On 2013-07-05 22:31, Doug Franklin wrote: > On 2013-07-05 21:14, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > >> Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally >> but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary > > I don't think I have an *istD around here anymore, but I've got a K100D > I'll send you, if you need it. That means moving from CF to SD, > unfortunately. Oops, didn't really mean that to be public. -- Doug "Lefty" Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook "NutDriver Racing" Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
At 8:53 AM -0400 7/6/13, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting camera alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... didnt try to reach inside contacts. Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary ann IIRC my IstD did that at the most inopportune times.:-) Mine always shows discharged batteries when I turn it on, regardless. Turn it off and then on again, and it's fine. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spoiled by the X-Pro1
On 05/07/2013 1:51 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: I too used my K7 last weekend for the Mikado shots that I shared this week, having exclusively used the X-Pro 1 for a couple of months. Yes, it felt heavy, but there's no equivalent of the excellent 50-135 2.8 DA* lens or longer telephotos in the Fuji line-up so the K5 still has its place. I was using the most excellent 77mm lens, so I wasn't suffering very much. I picked the thing up, and my God, it's huge and heavy. And by DSLR standards, it's not really a big camera. Incidentally, I've never moved the focus point off centre. I've always focused then framed. But then you might have been joking on that point. One never knows... I'm a place the focus point kind of guy. The X-Pro1 has lots of them, so I'm in pig heaven on the subject. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spoiled by the X-Pro1
On 05/07/2013 2:38 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jul 4, 2013, at 16:32 , Bill wrote: I had reason today to pick up my K5 for a few snapshots. It felt big and clunky in my hands, what's with only 11 focus points, none of them where you want them? Yeesh. My understanding is that it is a street photographer's dream camera. The lens is superb and the handling is gorgeous. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote: >>> On 7/6/2013 2:19 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote: > >What Aahz, whats this "would need to get a K-5 first... ;-)" ?? With >prices hitting the bottom most at around $ 600 please grab one. >You wont regret it. Even the K-5 II is hardly $ 70 more than the K-5. The problem isn't the body, it's the glass. I don't own any Pentax equipment currently (I rented for my cruise), and I haven't decided yet what kind of equipment I want to get medium-term. >>> >>> If I was starting from scratch, I would go with NIkon, better range of >>> dslrs and you can use newer af glass, as well as vintage mf glass. >>> No FF with Pentax, no vintage mf glass with Canon. >> >> Nikon weather-resistant lenses are more spendy than Pentax, I don't care >> about FF, I like in-camera shake reduction for prime lenses, and I have >> a soft spot for Pentax because I grew up with it. Basically, my choices >> boil down to Pentax, m4/3, or high-end P&S with occasional equipment >> rental when I need the best (the last is what I'm currently doing). >> >> As I mentioned in another post recently, my impression is that long-term >> (more than 5-10 years out), *all* the camera makers are poor bets due to >> likely technological disruption, which makes me leery of investing in >> glass. > > 5-10 years out you could be bored with photography, blind or dead. Buy > glass now while you can still enjoy it. :-) Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10 years. The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much it costs per hour. So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket plus munchies). So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50): K-5 II with 18-135 WR $1150 DA* 60-250 $1350 D-FA 100mm macro WR $700 That's $3200, divide by $25/hour and that's 128 hours. So I'd need to use that for at least 25 hours per year over five years to get my money's worth. And that's rock-bottom minimum, I'd really want a normal or wide-angle lens F2.8 or wider. Buying used would save some money at the cost of time (keh.com doesn't have them all right now and a used 60-250 isn't much cheaper than new). Then there's the fact that I rented two bodies for the cruise, and it's really really handy to not switch lenses... Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X with 250D closeup lens, and a Fuji X-S1 that arrives Tuesday). So really, that's 25 hrs/yr *in addition* to what I'm already doing for taking photos. Makes it a lot harder to justify to myself. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Rosie
Thank you, Chris. I hear you re the pillar and I would have skipped this shot except that it was one of the best for overall expression and light on her face from the keepers. Getting her to play about with the pipe sculpture was an experiment and other compositions worked better (by not cutting across her), but most had awkward lighting. C'est la vie. No matter: she's absolutely thrilled with this shot and her friends have been piling on the praise on Facebook, so that's all that matters in the end. :-) On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: > Nice portrait Bruce. I'm in 2 minds about the pillar bisecting her. > Take it out and the balance is all wrong. One of those dilemmas... > > Chris > > > > On 6 July 2013 03:09, Bruce Walker wrote: >> A portrait from the outdoor evening shoot that produced Tres Amigas ... >> >> http://flic.kr/p/f3ydb2 Rosie >> >> Comments welcome. >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Rosie
Yeah, Rosie won the genetic lottery for skin; it's close to flawless. (Yes, it's also retouched here, but very little.) Thanks, Frank! On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Do real people have skin like that? ;-) > > You've captured her loveliness, that's for sure. The light (and her skin!) is > quite striking. > > Cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Bruce Walker > Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13 > To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List > Subject: PESO Rosie > > A portrait from the outdoor evening shoot that produced Tres Amigas ... > > http://flic.kr/p/f3ydb2 Rosie > > Comments welcome. > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: sick transit my istD ???
From: Ann Sanfedele Oy... Now I have my eyes back but my camera is suddenly acting up mysteriously It's saying the batteries are depleated - but I just put in fresh. I know I got them in right because reversing where they go the info screen shows nothing. My rechargeables are being recharged, so I loaded 4 double AA's that are brand new -- and I know they work. This is particularly upsetting as I reluctantly promised an old friend I would shoot his wedding - just the posted before photos - for a small amount of cash (big for me, small for him) in August. scary. My refrigerator is dying, too and it is only 2 years old - fortunately under warranty and it may only be busted gaskets (door wont stay closed) and those are being replaced but it has been a circus ehre for a couple of weeks. Finally got my great distance glasses and the +250 magnifying flip-ups for working on computer -- all GOOD in that area. and now.. I cant let John do all the kvetching here can I ? SEriously - any clues about what to do with the D would be much appreciated - it is effectively my only camera ann Have you checked/replaced the OTHER (CR2016) battery? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Steve Sharpe wrote: > At 8:53 AM -0400 7/6/13, David J Brooks wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: >>> >>> Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting camera >>> alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... >>> didnt >>> try to reach inside contacts. >>> >>> Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally >>> but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary >>> >>> ann >> >> >> IIRC my IstD did that at the most inopportune times.:-) > > > Mine always shows discharged batteries when I turn it on, regardless. Turn > it off and then on again, and it's fine. Curiously, my K100Ds has always done that too, _except_ when I use Eneloops in it. My guess is that the battery life detect circuit is over-sensitive to a slight voltage droop like what you get with common rechargeables (that actually have lots of charge left), but the Eneloops have a higher voltage until they are almost exhausted. So I always reserved the Eneloops for the camera and saved the Duracells and Energizers for the flash. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
On 06/07/2013 9:07 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 8:53 AM -0400 7/6/13, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting camera alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... didnt try to reach inside contacts. Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary ann IIRC my IstD did that at the most inopportune times.:-) Mine always shows discharged batteries when I turn it on, regardless. Turn it off and then on again, and it's fine. Curiously, my K100Ds has always done that too, _except_ when I use Eneloops in it. My guess is that the battery life detect circuit is over-sensitive to a slight voltage droop like what you get with common rechargeables (that actually have lots of charge left), but the Eneloops have a higher voltage until they are almost exhausted. So I always reserved the Eneloops for the camera and saved the Duracells and Energizers for the flash. I recall with my istD that I gave up and started using those horribly expensive lithium CR5 batteries because I couldn't make the camera work reliably with AA rechargables. I suspect lithium AA batteries would work, but I never got around to trying. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Stuff a guinea pig does
From: "knarftheriault Well no hipster would shoot digital that's for sure. It's so ~outre~. Only film will do for a true artiste. Good one Dan (and Pentax content no less!) cheers, frank Other than using their iPhone for selfies with their "real" camera anyway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
On 7/6/2013 08:53, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting camera alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... didnt try to reach inside contacts. Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary ann IIRC my IstD did that at the most inopportune times.:-) That's what I'm afraid of a On 7/5/2013 20:52, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I had hoped someone would say "that's probably all it is" and that someone will do it for me - I'm afraid of doing it myself ann On 7/5/2013 20:10, Steve Sharpe wrote: Clean the battery contacts? At 8:05 PM -0400 7/5/13, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Oy... Now I have my eyes back but my camera is suddenly acting up mysteriously It's saying the batteries are depleated - but I just put in fresh. I know I got them in right because reversing where they go the info screen shows nothing. My rechargeables are being recharged, so I loaded 4 double AA's that are brand new -- and I know they work. This is particularly upsetting as I reluctantly promised an old friend I would shoot his wedding - just the posted before photos - for a small amount of cash (big for me, small for him) in August. scary. My refrigerator is dying, too and it is only 2 years old - fortunately under warranty and it may only be busted gaskets (door wont stay closed) and those are being replaced but it has been a circus ehre for a couple of weeks. Finally got my great distance glasses and the +250 magnifying flip-ups for working on computer -- all GOOD in that area. and now.. I cant let John do all the kvetching here can I ? SEriously - any clues about what to do with the D would be much appreciated - it is effectively my only camera ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his home as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist on compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there today and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work and time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place is just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's proceeding nicely. After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm supposed to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the studio space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only done extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the opportunity. I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even have a chance to get off the ground. It kind of makes me glad I'm going bald. At least no one will notice when I start pulling my hair out, or if it just decides to fall out on its own. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
I believe that the monetary returns on wedding shooting are commensurate with the effort required. If you decide to go ahead with it, you should be prepared to spend some money on some training -- at the *very least* -- and I can recommend the Creative Live videos. They range from $79 - $149 and you get up to 24 hours of video for that. I've watched quite a few of these and even bought one package it was so good. (They are free to watch live, but you have to have a _lot_ of free time to watch an entire 3-day course live; 8 hours per day.) On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Walt wrote: > Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his home > as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of > charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist on > compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there today > and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work and > time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place is > just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's > proceeding nicely. > > After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him > asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is > getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm supposed > to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the studio > space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only done > extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the > task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the opportunity. > I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even have > a chance to get off the ground. > > It kind of makes me glad I'm going bald. At least no one will notice when I > start pulling my hair out, or if it just decides to fall out on its own. > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
Thanks, Bruce. Are there any specific video courses that you'd recommend? (I don't know if it's an omen, but as I was typing the previous email, I went to take my second sip of my first cup of coffee, only to look down and discover that a fly had decided to end its life therein.) -- Walt On 7/6/2013 10:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I believe that the monetary returns on wedding shooting are commensurate with the effort required. If you decide to go ahead with it, you should be prepared to spend some money on some training -- at the *very least* -- and I can recommend the Creative Live videos. They range from $79 - $149 and you get up to 24 hours of video for that. I've watched quite a few of these and even bought one package it was so good. (They are free to watch live, but you have to have a _lot_ of free time to watch an entire 3-day course live; 8 hours per day.) On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Walt wrote: Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his home as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist on compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there today and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work and time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place is just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's proceeding nicely. After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm supposed to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the studio space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only done extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the opportunity. I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even have a chance to get off the ground. It kind of makes me glad I'm going bald. At least no one will notice when I start pulling my hair out, or if it just decides to fall out on its own. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Walt wrote: > > After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email > from him asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems > his sister is getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At > Walker's Point. I'm supposed to talk to her about it today when I go > over to start working on the studio space. Needless to say, I'm a > bit nervous about the prospect. I've only done extremely informal > wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the task. Still, I > feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the opportunity. I just > want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even have > a chance to get off the ground. Congrats! Don't have any real advice on the shooting side, but from what I've seen of your work, combined with what I've seen and heard about success/fail wedding photography, I'd guess that one way to make sure you're not getting in over your head is to find out whether she wants primarily candid or formal pictures. You'll do just fine if she mostly wants candids. Make sure you've got two bodies, though, if you take it -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
At 11:07 AM -0400 7/6/13, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 8:53 AM -0400 7/6/13, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting camera alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... didnt try to reach inside contacts. Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary ann IIRC my IstD did that at the most inopportune times.:-) Mine always shows discharged batteries when I turn it on, regardless. Turn it off and then on again, and it's fine. Curiously, my K100Ds has always done that too, _except_ when I use Eneloops in it. My guess is that the battery life detect circuit is over-sensitive to a slight voltage droop like what you get with common rechargeables (that actually have lots of charge left), but the Eneloops have a higher voltage until they are almost exhausted. So I always reserved the Eneloops for the camera and saved the Duracells and Energizers for the flash. I tried NiMH rechargeables for awhile, but the camera would show them discharged after 40 - 50 exposures. I bit the bullet and went with lithiums, which last a long time but I still get that drained battery warning when I turn the thing on. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
On 7/6/2013 11:04 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Walt wrote: After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm supposed to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the studio space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only done extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the opportunity. I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even have a chance to get off the ground. Congrats! Don't have any real advice on the shooting side, but from what I've seen of your work, combined with what I've seen and heard about success/fail wedding photography, I'd guess that one way to make sure you're not getting in over your head is to find out whether she wants primarily candid or formal pictures. You'll do just fine if she mostly wants candids. Make sure you've got two bodies, though, if you take it Thanks, Aahz. You're exactly right -- I feel *vastly* more comfortable capturing candids and informal portraits, and hope upon hope that's what she's looking for. And, yes, I absolutely will be taking two bodies if I take the opportunity -- the K-5 and the trusty K20D as backup. Hell, I may even rent a third, just in case calamity strikes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
Not an entirely accurate assumption - unless (1)you never buy any other Pentax cameras, (2)you throw away all your Pentax equipment at the end of five years, (3)*ALL* the photography you're doing with your current equipment continues as is and you *NEVER* use the Pentax equipment for photography you might otherwise do with what you currently own, and (4)you also never replace what you have now during that five year period. -p On 7/6/2013 9:26 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote: On 7/6/2013 2:19 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote: What Aahz, whats this "would need to get a K-5 first... ;-)" ?? With prices hitting the bottom most at around $ 600 please grab one. You wont regret it. Even the K-5 II is hardly $ 70 more than the K-5. The problem isn't the body, it's the glass. I don't own any Pentax equipment currently (I rented for my cruise), and I haven't decided yet what kind of equipment I want to get medium-term. If I was starting from scratch, I would go with NIkon, better range of dslrs and you can use newer af glass, as well as vintage mf glass. No FF with Pentax, no vintage mf glass with Canon. Nikon weather-resistant lenses are more spendy than Pentax, I don't care about FF, I like in-camera shake reduction for prime lenses, and I have a soft spot for Pentax because I grew up with it. Basically, my choices boil down to Pentax, m4/3, or high-end P&S with occasional equipment rental when I need the best (the last is what I'm currently doing). As I mentioned in another post recently, my impression is that long-term (more than 5-10 years out), *all* the camera makers are poor bets due to likely technological disruption, which makes me leery of investing in glass. 5-10 years out you could be bored with photography, blind or dead. Buy glass now while you can still enjoy it. :-) Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10 years. The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much it costs per hour. So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket plus munchies). So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50): K-5 II with 18-135 WR $1150 DA* 60-250 $1350 D-FA 100mm macro WR $700 That's $3200, divide by $25/hour and that's 128 hours. So I'd need to use that for at least 25 hours per year over five years to get my money's worth. And that's rock-bottom minimum, I'd really want a normal or wide-angle lens F2.8 or wider. Buying used would save some money at the cost of time (keh.com doesn't have them all right now and a used 60-250 isn't much cheaper than new). Then there's the fact that I rented two bodies for the cruise, and it's really really handy to not switch lenses... Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X with 250D closeup lens, and a Fuji X-S1 that arrives Tuesday). So really, that's 25 hrs/yr *in addition* to what I'm already doing for taking photos. Makes it a lot harder to justify to myself. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
Aahz, the primary oversight in your calculation is the apparent assumption that your gear will go to $00.00 in value after some number of years. A second possible mistake in your calculation is the notion that your gear has value only during the hours it is being used. You can't get image files without a mechanism to capture those files. Let's call that device a "camera" since that is the topic here. So, you use the camera x hours to produce images. But you also then have y hours of entertainment (or challenge, agony, boredom, fascination, whatever . . . ) processing those images as you transmogrify the electrons into web pictures and/or prints. And then, over many years to come, you have z hours of pleasure as you and friends and family look at those old images and reminisce. You may prefer to minimize y, but x needs to be large enough to keep z from approaching zero. And the camera's per-hour value should be calculated against x+y+z, not against x alone IMHO. stan On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: > On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote: On 7/6/2013 2:19 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: > On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote: >> >> What Aahz, whats this "would need to get a K-5 first... ;-)" ?? With >> prices hitting the bottom most at around $ 600 please grab one. >> You wont regret it. Even the K-5 II is hardly $ 70 more than the K-5. > > The problem isn't the body, it's the glass. I don't own any Pentax > equipment currently (I rented for my cruise), and I haven't decided yet > what kind of equipment I want to get medium-term. If I was starting from scratch, I would go with NIkon, better range of dslrs and you can use newer af glass, as well as vintage mf glass. No FF with Pentax, no vintage mf glass with Canon. >>> >>> Nikon weather-resistant lenses are more spendy than Pentax, I don't care >>> about FF, I like in-camera shake reduction for prime lenses, and I have >>> a soft spot for Pentax because I grew up with it. Basically, my choices >>> boil down to Pentax, m4/3, or high-end P&S with occasional equipment >>> rental when I need the best (the last is what I'm currently doing). >>> >>> As I mentioned in another post recently, my impression is that long-term >>> (more than 5-10 years out), *all* the camera makers are poor bets due to >>> likely technological disruption, which makes me leery of investing in >>> glass. >> >> 5-10 years out you could be bored with photography, blind or dead. Buy >> glass now while you can still enjoy it. :-) > > Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10 > years. The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much > it costs per hour. So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket > plus munchies). So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost > me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50): > > K-5 II with 18-135 WR $1150 > DA* 60-250$1350 > D-FA 100mm macro WR$700 > > That's $3200, divide by $25/hour and that's 128 hours. So I'd need to > use that for at least 25 hours per year over five years to get my > money's worth. And that's rock-bottom minimum, I'd really want a > normal or wide-angle lens F2.8 or wider. Buying used would save some > money at the cost of time (keh.com doesn't have them all right now and a > used 60-250 isn't much cheaper than new). > > Then there's the fact that I rented two bodies for the cruise, and it's > really really handy to not switch lenses... > > Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much > money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives > me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better > in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X > with 250D closeup lens, and a Fuji X-S1 that arrives Tuesday). So > really, that's 25 hrs/yr *in addition* to what I'm already doing for > taking photos. Makes it a lot harder to justify to myself. > -- > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ > <*> <*> <*> > Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: > > Aahz, the primary oversight in your calculation is the apparent > assumption that your gear will go to $00.00 in value after some number > of years. Not really -- I've learned from painful experience that getting rid of photo equipment is a big hassle (for me, YMMV), so yes, that was an implicit assumption because of the time involved. It may not be literally zero, but it's functionally zero. You could make a similar argument that the equipment will likely still work in five years and therefore I don't need to amortize over the short period of time, but I might just as easily get into a situation where I'm just not doing photography anymore and therefore the equipment is now gathering dust (and therefore functionally worthless to me). Five years is the longest possible amortization time I'm comfortable with; the numbers get worse with a shorter time. > A second possible mistake in your calculation is the notion that your > gear has value only during the hours it is being used. You can't get > image files without a mechanism to capture those files. Let's call > that device a "camera" since that is the topic here. So, you use the > camera x hours to produce images. But you also then have y hours of > entertainment (or challenge, agony, boredom, fascination, whatever . . > . ) processing those images as you transmogrify the electrons into web > pictures and/or prints. And then, over many years to come, you have > z hours of pleasure as you and friends and family look at those old > images and reminisce. > > You may prefer to minimize y, but x needs to be large enough to keep > z from approaching zero. And the camera's per-hour value should be > calculated against x+y+z, not against x alone IMHO. That's true, and I skipped it in simplifying the calculation. Doesn't really change the basic principle involved, though. Ditto to Paul Sorenson's points. > On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > On 7/6/2013 2:19 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote: >>> >>> What Aahz, whats this "would need to get a K-5 first... ;-)" ?? With >>> prices hitting the bottom most at around $ 600 please grab one. >>> You wont regret it. Even the K-5 II is hardly $ 70 more than the K-5. >> >> The problem isn't the body, it's the glass. I don't own any Pentax >> equipment currently (I rented for my cruise), and I haven't decided yet >> what kind of equipment I want to get medium-term. > > If I was starting from scratch, I would go with NIkon, better range of > dslrs and you can use newer af glass, as well as vintage mf glass. > No FF with Pentax, no vintage mf glass with Canon. Nikon weather-resistant lenses are more spendy than Pentax, I don't care about FF, I like in-camera shake reduction for prime lenses, and I have a soft spot for Pentax because I grew up with it. Basically, my choices boil down to Pentax, m4/3, or high-end P&S with occasional equipment rental when I need the best (the last is what I'm currently doing). As I mentioned in another post recently, my impression is that long-term (more than 5-10 years out), *all* the camera makers are poor bets due to likely technological disruption, which makes me leery of investing in glass. >>> >>> 5-10 years out you could be bored with photography, blind or dead. Buy >>> glass now while you can still enjoy it. :-) >> >> Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10 >> years. The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much >> it costs per hour. So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket >> plus munchies). So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost >> me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50): >> >> K-5 II with 18-135 WR$1150 >> DA* 60-250 $1350 >> D-FA 100mm macro WR $700 >> >> That's $3200, divide by $25/hour and that's 128 hours. So I'd need to >> use that for at least 25 hours per year over five years to get my >> money's worth. And that's rock-bottom minimum, I'd really want a >> normal or wide-angle lens F2.8 or wider. Buying used would save some >> money at the cost of time (keh.com doesn't have them all right now and a >> used 60-250 isn't much cheaper than new). >> >> Then there's the fact that I rented two bodies for the cruise, and it's >> really really handy to not switch lenses... >> >> Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much >> money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives >> me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better >> in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X >> with 250D closeu
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Re: Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Paul Sorenson wrote: > > Not an entirely accurate assumption - unless (1)you never buy any > other Pentax cameras, (2)you throw away all your Pentax equipment at > the end of five years, (3)*ALL* the photography you're doing with > your current equipment continues as is and you *NEVER* use the > Pentax equipment for photography you might otherwise do with what > you currently own, and (4)you also never replace what you have now > during that five year period. One other thing about point (3): my cruise reminded me of just how bulky and heavy DSLR gear is and how unlikely I am to use it casually. Heck, even the Canon G1X is too heavy for extended holding in the hand for fast point-and-shoot (compared with the Nikon P7100). So maybe a better way of thinking about the time calculation should be, "Would I take this stuff on at least six four-hour expeditions per year?" -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> 'Does it say something about our culture that "academic" is sometimes used as a synonym for "irrelevant"?' --Marc Wilson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
I think your choice is between these three: http://www.creativelive.com/courses/jasmine_star http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-workshop-zach-and-jody-gray http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-photography-joe-buissink Were it me I'd likely go for the first, Ms. Star. It's also 5 days worth and covers the most specifics. Watch the sample footage and see if you like how the instructor works. Some of them turn me right off and I can't watch. Every one is different. Some are so good I can't stop watching, even though I generally dislike videos. While they're all aimed at a full-time pro wedding biz, there are lots of tips and techniques for shooting in churches, the key moments to watch for (ring exchange; bride preps, etc.). On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Walt wrote: > Thanks, Bruce. > > Are there any specific video courses that you'd recommend? > > (I don't know if it's an omen, but as I was typing the previous email, I > went to take my second sip of my first cup of coffee, only to look down and > discover that a fly had decided to end its life therein.) > > -- Walt > > > On 7/6/2013 10:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> I believe that the monetary returns on wedding shooting are >> commensurate with the effort required. If you decide to go ahead with >> it, you should be prepared to spend some money on some training -- at >> the *very least* -- and I can recommend the Creative Live videos. They >> range from $79 - $149 and you get up to 24 hours of video for that. >> I've watched quite a few of these and even bought one package it was >> so good. >> >> (They are free to watch live, but you have to have a _lot_ of free >> time to watch an entire 3-day course live; 8 hours per day.) >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Walt wrote: >>> >>> Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his >>> home >>> as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of >>> charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist >>> on >>> compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there >>> today >>> and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work >>> and >>> time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place >>> is >>> just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's >>> proceeding nicely. >>> >>> After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from >>> him >>> asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is >>> getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm >>> supposed >>> to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the >>> studio >>> space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only >>> done >>> extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the >>> task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the >>> opportunity. >>> I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even >>> have >>> a chance to get off the ground. >>> >>> It kind of makes me glad I'm going bald. At least no one will notice when >>> I >>> start pulling my hair out, or if it just decides to fall out on its own. >>> >>> -- Walt >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: When Frank Retires
"Gee, Dad, it's a Whizzer..." I haven't seen one of them for 50+ years. -p On 7/6/2013 11:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443904 Comments invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
The little I know about wedding photography comes from reading this list plus watching the photographers at my own weddings. So, no specific advice, but if it were me, my preparation would probably involve a few aspects. First, read. (By coincidence this offer showed up in my in-box today. No clue if this is good, bad, or indifferent, but it is a reminder that there are resources out there: ( http://www.peachpit.com/deals/?WT.mc_id=2013_July_6_PP_PBM_WeddingShots_EDOW_ends ) Second, at least sample some of the web resources Bruce mentioned. Third, sit with the bride-to-be (and her mother if the mother is going to be influential throughout the process) and go through some of her friend's wedding albums, talking about what shots she (they) particularly want and expect to be in the eventual wedding album. Fourth, practice your flash technique in spaces similar to what you'll see before-during-after the wedding. If you only get proficient in using bounce-flash in low-ceilinged bars or basements, you might be at a loss in a high-ceilinged church. (Speaking of church, find out early what sort of restrictions there will be on photography during the service; if it a church, some pastors can be quite fussy about photography in general, about the use of flash [generally not accepted], etc.) Fifth, make sure that you and the bride-to-be are totally in synch with respect to what the product will be. Prints? Albums? 600x800 jpeg's on Facebook? Does she expect to see everything, or is she willing to let you cull and select the better shots for her to choose from? And then prepare yourself for the process of editing, posting, printing . . . And how soon does she want to see proofs? Note that her friends will have wedding shots posted on Facebook before the reception is over. She'll be willing to endure a wait for your higher-quality images, but it may not take many days before your contribution to the image set is seen as an afterthought, a footnote to the big event rather than a major part of the event. Enjoy the trip! stan On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Walt wrote: > Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his home > as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of > charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist on > compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there today > and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work and > time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place is > just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's > proceeding nicely. > > After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him > asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is > getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm supposed > to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the studio > space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only done > extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the > task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the opportunity. > I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even have a > chance to get off the ground. > > It kind of makes me glad I'm going bald. At least no one will notice when I > start pulling my hair out, or if it just decides to fall out on its own. > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
Thank you, Bruce. Based on what I saw, I'd have to agree with your choice. She's pretty engaging (and easy on the eyes) -- though, I wouldn't want to be her stenographer. ;) Welp! Time to start saving pennies again. -- Walt On 7/6/2013 11:52 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I think your choice is between these three: http://www.creativelive.com/courses/jasmine_star http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-workshop-zach-and-jody-gray http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-photography-joe-buissink Were it me I'd likely go for the first, Ms. Star. It's also 5 days worth and covers the most specifics. Watch the sample footage and see if you like how the instructor works. Some of them turn me right off and I can't watch. Every one is different. Some are so good I can't stop watching, even though I generally dislike videos. While they're all aimed at a full-time pro wedding biz, there are lots of tips and techniques for shooting in churches, the key moments to watch for (ring exchange; bride preps, etc.). On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Walt wrote: Thanks, Bruce. Are there any specific video courses that you'd recommend? (I don't know if it's an omen, but as I was typing the previous email, I went to take my second sip of my first cup of coffee, only to look down and discover that a fly had decided to end its life therein.) -- Walt On 7/6/2013 10:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I believe that the monetary returns on wedding shooting are commensurate with the effort required. If you decide to go ahead with it, you should be prepared to spend some money on some training -- at the *very least* -- and I can recommend the Creative Live videos. They range from $79 - $149 and you get up to 24 hours of video for that. I've watched quite a few of these and even bought one package it was so good. (They are free to watch live, but you have to have a _lot_ of free time to watch an entire 3-day course live; 8 hours per day.) On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Walt wrote: Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his home as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist on compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there today and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work and time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place is just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's proceeding nicely. After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm supposed to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the studio space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only done extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the opportunity. I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even have a chance to get off the ground. It kind of makes me glad I'm going bald. At least no one will notice when I start pulling my hair out, or if it just decides to fall out on its own. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: When Frank Retires
It's a neat little bike. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > "Gee, Dad, it's a Whizzer..." > > I haven't seen one of them for 50+ years. > > -p > > > On 7/6/2013 11:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443904 >> Comments invited. >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> > > -- > Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
Thank you, Stan. One of the reasons I'm so hesitant about this is that it's going to be in a setting of the type I've never, ever been in before. From what I gather, this is going to be a fairly swanky affair replete with bigwigs and such. So, I can't help feeling I'll be the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. The closest thing I've done to this was an awards banquet at the Olympic Club in SF -- back when I crashed on Larry's couch. I'd only been shooting a little over a year at the time, and I've learned a (relatively) huge amount since then. But, still . . . Thanks for the pointer on practicing flash technique. As for what the bride is expecting, as I understand it, she's going to want prints and an album -- likely even a book. I figure I can glean the overall aesthetic she's looking for based on what I see at the wedding itself -- assuming I'm stupid enough to take on the challenge. Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why she might consider someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;) -- Walt On 7/6/2013 11:55 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: The little I know about wedding photography comes from reading this list plus watching the photographers at my own weddings. So, no specific advice, but if it were me, my preparation would probably involve a few aspects. First, read. (By coincidence this offer showed up in my in-box today. No clue if this is good, bad, or indifferent, but it is a reminder that there are resources out there: ( http://www.peachpit.com/deals/?WT.mc_id=2013_July_6_PP_PBM_WeddingShots_EDOW_ends ) Second, at least sample some of the web resources Bruce mentioned. Third, sit with the bride-to-be (and her mother if the mother is going to be influential throughout the process) and go through some of her friend's wedding albums, talking about what shots she (they) particularly want and expect to be in the eventual wedding album. Fourth, practice your flash technique in spaces similar to what you'll see before-during-after the wedding. If you only get proficient in using bounce-flash in low-ceilinged bars or basements, you might be at a loss in a high-ceilinged church. (Speaking of church, find out early what sort of restrictions there will be on photography during the service; if it a church, some pastors can be quite fussy about photography in general, about the use of flash [generally not accepted], etc.) Fifth, make sure that you and the bride-to-be are totally in synch with respect to what the product will be. Prints? Albums? 600x800 jpeg's on Facebook? Does she expect to see everything, or is she willing to let you cull and select the better shots for her to choose from? And then prepare yourself for the process of editing, posting, printing . . . And how soon does she want to see proofs? Note that her friends will have wedding shots posted on Facebook before the reception is over. She'll be willing to endure a wait for your higher-quality images, but it may not take many days before your contribution to the image set is seen as an afterthought, a footnote to the big event rather than a major part of the event. Enjoy the trip! stan On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Walt wrote: Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his home as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist on compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there today and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work and time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place is just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's proceeding nicely. After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm supposed to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the studio space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only done extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the opportunity. I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even have a chance to get off the ground. It kind of makes me glad I'm going bald. At least no one will notice when I start pulling my hair out, or if it just decides to fall out on its own. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/
Re: sick transit my istD ???
From: Bill On 06/07/2013 9:07 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 8:53 AM -0400 7/6/13, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting camera alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... didnt try to reach inside contacts. Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary ann IIRC my IstD did that at the most inopportune times.:-) Mine always shows discharged batteries when I turn it on, regardless. Turn it off and then on again, and it's fine. Curiously, my K100Ds has always done that too, _except_ when I use Eneloops in it. My guess is that the battery life detect circuit is over-sensitive to a slight voltage droop like what you get with common rechargeables (that actually have lots of charge left), but the Eneloops have a higher voltage until they are almost exhausted. So I always reserved the Eneloops for the camera and saved the Duracells and Energizers for the flash. I recall with my istD that I gave up and started using those horribly expensive lithium CR5 batteries because I couldn't make the camera work reliably with AA rechargables. I suspect lithium AA batteries would work, but I never got around to trying. bill With rechargables my *ist-D always showed half battery power even with new fully charged batteries. I read somewhere it's because the rechargables don't give a full 1.5v. Lithium AA disposable batteries worked just as well as the lithium disposable CR5 batteries did. I looked for, but never found a rechargable CR5 battery. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Walt wrote: > > Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask > the bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit > down and come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany > of reasons why she might consider someone who knows what the hell > they're doing. ;) One important reason: even if she's not paying "pro" rates for your work, under no circumstances should you take this job without getting paid for your travel expenses. That would be a significant chunk of money she might use instead for paying a good local photographer; she's not going to save much (if any) by using you -- she should only use you if she feels she has a good connection with you such that you'll do a better job of getting candids and formals than someone she doesn't have a connection with. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
On 7/6/2013 12:37 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Walt wrote: Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why she might consider someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;) One important reason: even if she's not paying "pro" rates for your work, under no circumstances should you take this job without getting paid for your travel expenses. That would be a significant chunk of money she might use instead for paying a good local photographer; she's not going to save much (if any) by using you -- she should only use you if she feels she has a good connection with you such that you'll do a better job of getting candids and formals than someone she doesn't have a connection with. That's something I've already stipulated to her brother -- travel, room and board, and anything above that would be gravy. Essentially, I told him that I'd be ecstatic to take the job, if only for the experience -- but I don't want to under-perform expectations. From what I gather, the pro rates in that area are howlingly outrageous, and that travel, room and board would be a pittance by comparison. So, he offered me up as a sacrificial lamb/reasonable alternative. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
Both my *ist-D, (never used since I think I cracked the top circuit board), and my *ist Ds exhibit similar behavior. Turn the camera on with fresh rechargeable or lithium disposables and they show zero charge. Turn them off and on again and sometimes you see a full charge. Sometimes not even then. However I keep an old lead pencil with a real rubber eraser on hand for just this emergency. Pop the batteries out and erase the contact surfaces on the inside of the battery compartment then blow off any residual rubber. Viola*, the the camera works when the batteries are replaced. I suspect that there's a microscopic layer of oxidation on the battery contacts, unseen to the naked eye. *That's what the spell checker suggested and I'm sticking with it. On 7/5/2013 8:05 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Oy... Now I have my eyes back but my camera is suddenly acting up mysteriously It's saying the batteries are depleated - but I just put in fresh. I know I got them in right because reversing where they go the info screen shows nothing. My rechargeables are being recharged, so I loaded 4 double AA's that are brand new -- and I know they work. This is particularly upsetting as I reluctantly promised an old friend I would shoot his wedding - just the posted before photos - for a small amount of cash (big for me, small for him) in August. scary. My refrigerator is dying, too and it is only 2 years old - fortunately under warranty and it may only be busted gaskets (door wont stay closed) and those are being replaced but it has been a circus ehre for a couple of weeks. Finally got my great distance glasses and the +250 magnifying flip-ups for working on computer -- all GOOD in that area. and now.. I cant let John do all the kvetching here can I ? SEriously - any clues about what to do with the D would be much appreciated - it is effectively my only camera ann -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
On 7/5/2013 11:26 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 7/5/2013 22:40, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2013-07-05 22:31, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2013-07-05 21:14, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary I don't think I have an *istD around here anymore, but I've got a K100D I'll send you, if you need it. That means moving from CF to SD, unfortunately. Oops, didn't really mean that to be public. No harm that I can see - cute that you remembered my distaste for sd's (all thumbs annie) ann SDs aren't that bad once you get used to them. You can get them big enough that you never have to take them out of the camera though the cameras USB interface is fairly slow compared to a good card reader. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
My take would be if that's the system you want look at capabilities, not actual lenses. You could save a bit by getting a used DA 16-50mm a very good lens, assuming you're going to want the extra reach of 60-250 which will cover the middle to long telephoto range and look for a good used A 100mm f4.0 since most macro work is best manual focus anyway, and it's very good lens that can be had for a lot less money. That combo would give you almost the same capability and cut your cost by 1/3 to 1/2. On 7/6/2013 10:26 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote: On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, J.C. O'Connell wrote: On 7/6/2013 2:19 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote: What Aahz, whats this "would need to get a K-5 first... ;-)" ?? With prices hitting the bottom most at around $ 600 please grab one. You wont regret it. Even the K-5 II is hardly $ 70 more than the K-5. The problem isn't the body, it's the glass. I don't own any Pentax equipment currently (I rented for my cruise), and I haven't decided yet what kind of equipment I want to get medium-term. If I was starting from scratch, I would go with NIkon, better range of dslrs and you can use newer af glass, as well as vintage mf glass. No FF with Pentax, no vintage mf glass with Canon. Nikon weather-resistant lenses are more spendy than Pentax, I don't care about FF, I like in-camera shake reduction for prime lenses, and I have a soft spot for Pentax because I grew up with it. Basically, my choices boil down to Pentax, m4/3, or high-end P&S with occasional equipment rental when I need the best (the last is what I'm currently doing). As I mentioned in another post recently, my impression is that long-term (more than 5-10 years out), *all* the camera makers are poor bets due to likely technological disruption, which makes me leery of investing in glass. 5-10 years out you could be bored with photography, blind or dead. Buy glass now while you can still enjoy it. :-) Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10 years. The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much it costs per hour. So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket plus munchies). So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50): K-5 II with 18-135 WR $1150 DA* 60-250 $1350 D-FA 100mm macro WR $700 That's $3200, divide by $25/hour and that's 128 hours. So I'd need to use that for at least 25 hours per year over five years to get my money's worth. And that's rock-bottom minimum, I'd really want a normal or wide-angle lens F2.8 or wider. Buying used would save some money at the cost of time (keh.com doesn't have them all right now and a used 60-250 isn't much cheaper than new). Then there's the fact that I rented two bodies for the cruise, and it's really really handy to not switch lenses... Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X with 250D closeup lens, and a Fuji X-S1 that arrives Tuesday). So really, that's 25 hrs/yr *in addition* to what I'm already doing for taking photos. Makes it a lot harder to justify to myself. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
One additional thought. You might want to see if you can hire an assistant. Someone to hold your camera bag, to hold your off-camera flash in position, to hold your spare camera body, with alternate lens mounted, to hand you as needed (faster than switching lenses). Note that tv, a former list member who morphed into a successful wedding business, went through 7+ assistants. (He married #7). At least the first 6 kept dropping things, tripping over tripods, etc., so having an assistant can be a mixed blessing, but probably useful on balance. Possibly a teenage boy expected to attend with family: he'll be bored out of his mind with the wedding and would be glad to earn a few bucks . . . stan On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Walt wrote: > On 7/6/2013 12:37 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Walt wrote: >>> Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask >>> the bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit >>> down and come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany >>> of reasons why she might consider someone who knows what the hell >>> they're doing. ;) >> One important reason: even if she's not paying "pro" rates for your work, >> under no circumstances should you take this job without getting paid for >> your travel expenses. That would be a significant chunk of money she >> might use instead for paying a good local photographer; she's not going >> to save much (if any) by using you -- she should only use you if she >> feels she has a good connection with you such that you'll do a better job >> of getting candids and formals than someone she doesn't have a connection >> with. > That's something I've already stipulated to her brother -- travel, room and > board, and anything above that would be gravy. Essentially, I told him that > I'd be ecstatic to take the job, if only for the experience -- but I don't > want to under-perform expectations. > > From what I gather, the pro rates in that area are howlingly outrageous, and > that travel, room and board would be a pittance by comparison. So, he offered > me up as a sacrificial lamb/reasonable alternative. > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
Walt: listen to Stan! Especially if you are the sort of person who puts things down randomly and loses track of them. Like me. (At my last outdoor shoot I lost the little widget that shields the dome on my light meter for directional readings. I will have to make one now.) On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > One additional thought. You might want to see if you can hire an assistant. > Someone to hold your camera bag, to hold your off-camera flash in position, > to hold your spare camera body, with alternate lens mounted, to hand you as > needed (faster than switching lenses). Note that tv, a former list member who > morphed into a successful wedding business, went through 7+ assistants. (He > married #7). At least the first 6 kept dropping things, tripping over > tripods, etc., so having an assistant can be a mixed blessing, but probably > useful on balance. Possibly a teenage boy expected to attend with family: > he'll be bored out of his mind with the wedding and would be glad to earn a > few bucks . . . > > stan > > On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Walt wrote: > >> On 7/6/2013 12:37 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Walt wrote: Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why she might consider someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;) >>> One important reason: even if she's not paying "pro" rates for your work, >>> under no circumstances should you take this job without getting paid for >>> your travel expenses. That would be a significant chunk of money she >>> might use instead for paying a good local photographer; she's not going >>> to save much (if any) by using you -- she should only use you if she >>> feels she has a good connection with you such that you'll do a better job >>> of getting candids and formals than someone she doesn't have a connection >>> with. >> That's something I've already stipulated to her brother -- travel, room and >> board, and anything above that would be gravy. Essentially, I told him that >> I'd be ecstatic to take the job, if only for the experience -- but I don't >> want to under-perform expectations. >> >> From what I gather, the pro rates in that area are howlingly outrageous, and >> that travel, room and board would be a pittance by comparison. So, he >> offered me up as a sacrificial lamb/reasonable alternative. >> >> -- Walt >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
And another follow-up thought. Remember the days when sit-down wedding receptions featured a disposable film camera on every table? Guests took candid shots of one-another, the bride collected the cameras and had the film developed . . . Today's version of that would be to have a handful of business cards on every table with a website link and a request that they upload copies of all of their best shots from their iPhones, P&S cameras, etc. You could than incorporate some of those shots into the albums. stan On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Walt wrote: > Thank you, Stan. > > One of the reasons I'm so hesitant about this is that it's going to be in a > setting of the type I've never, ever been in before. From what I gather, this > is going to be a fairly swanky affair replete with bigwigs and such. So, I > can't help feeling I'll be the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. The closest > thing I've done to this was an awards banquet at the Olympic Club in SF -- > back when I crashed on Larry's couch. I'd only been shooting a little over a > year at the time, and I've learned a (relatively) huge amount since then. > But, still . . . > > Thanks for the pointer on practicing flash technique. As for what the bride > is expecting, as I understand it, she's going to want prints and an album -- > likely even a book. I figure I can glean the overall aesthetic she's looking > for based on what I see at the wedding itself -- assuming I'm stupid enough > to take on the challenge. > > Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the > bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and come up > with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why she might > consider someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;) > > -- Walt > > On 7/6/2013 11:55 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: >> The little I know about wedding photography comes from reading this list >> plus watching the photographers at my own weddings. So, no specific advice, >> but if it were me, my preparation would probably involve a few aspects. >> >> First, read. (By coincidence this offer showed up in my in-box today. No >> clue if this is good, bad, or indifferent, but it is a reminder that there >> are resources out there: >> ( >> http://www.peachpit.com/deals/?WT.mc_id=2013_July_6_PP_PBM_WeddingShots_EDOW_ends >> ) >> Second, at least sample some of the web resources Bruce mentioned. >> Third, sit with the bride-to-be (and her mother if the mother is going to be >> influential throughout the process) and go through some of her friend's >> wedding albums, talking about what shots she (they) particularly want and >> expect to be in the eventual wedding album. >> Fourth, practice your flash technique in spaces similar to what you'll see >> before-during-after the wedding. If you only get proficient in using >> bounce-flash in low-ceilinged bars or basements, you might be at a loss in a >> high-ceilinged church. (Speaking of church, find out early what sort of >> restrictions there will be on photography during the service; if it a >> church, some pastors can be quite fussy about photography in general, about >> the use of flash [generally not accepted], etc.) >> Fifth, make sure that you and the bride-to-be are totally in synch with >> respect to what the product will be. Prints? Albums? 600x800 jpeg's on >> Facebook? Does she expect to see everything, or is she willing to let you >> cull and select the better shots for her to choose from? And then prepare >> yourself for the process of editing, posting, printing . . . And how soon >> does she want to see proofs? Note that her friends will have wedding shots >> posted on Facebook before the reception is over. She'll be willing to endure >> a wait for your higher-quality images, but it may not take many days before >> your contribution to the image set is seen as an afterthought, a footnote to >> the big event rather than a major part of the event. >> >> Enjoy the trip! >> >> stan >> >> >> On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Walt wrote: >> >>> Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his >>> home as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of >>> charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist on >>> compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there today >>> and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work >>> and time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the >>> place is just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, >>> everything's proceeding nicely. >>> >>> After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him >>> asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is >>> getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm >>> supposed to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on >>> t
Re: Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 07:26:55AM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote: > > Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10 > years. The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much > it costs per hour. So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket > plus munchies). So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost > me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50): > > K-5 II with 18-135 WR $1150 > DA* 60-250$1350 > D-FA 100mm macro WR$700 > > That's $3200, divide by $25/hour and that's 128 hours. So I'd need to > use that for at least 25 hours per year over five years to get my > money's worth. And that's rock-bottom minimum, I'd really want a > normal or wide-angle lens F2.8 or wider. Buying used would save some > money at the cost of time (keh.com doesn't have them all right now and a > used 60-250 isn't much cheaper than new). > > Then there's the fact that I rented two bodies for the cruise, and it's > really really handy to not switch lenses... > > Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much > money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives > me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better > in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X > with 250D closeup lens, and a Fuji X-S1 that arrives Tuesday). So > really, that's 25 hrs/yr *in addition* to what I'm already doing for > taking photos. Makes it a lot harder to justify to myself. Aahz, It's a damn good thing for you that you aren't into something like racing. My first track time, 25 years ago, was at Bondurant, and it worked out to something like $100 per hour of track time. In retrospect, that was some of the cheapest track time I've had. If I were racing, and were honest about my expenses, in a cheap to run class, and not trying to win, I might be able to do it for as little as $300 per hour of track time. $600 for a lens? That's just a weekend of racing, and since I'm not racing these day... no problem! Then there's flying. One reason I never got my pilot's license is that flying makes racing look cheap. More seriously, certain levels of performance come with a cost. With some things, like sensors, the cost of performance gets cheaper over time. The entry level K500 will outperform any APS sensor camera of not that many years ago, and the full frame cameras from not long before that. Other things, well I used to know someone with a .sig that said "If it weren't for law enforcement and physics, I'd be unstoppable". If you want a lens with certain capabilities, physics says it has to be a certain size. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: > > And another follow-up thought. Remember the days when sit-down wedding > receptions featured a disposable film camera on every table? Guests > took candid shots of one-another, the bride collected the cameras and > had the film developed . . . Today's version of that would be to have > a handful of business cards on every table with a website link and a > request that they upload copies of all of their best shots from their > iPhones, P&S cameras, etc. You could than incorporate some of those > shots into the albums. Strongly agreed! (We did the disposable camera thing at our wedding and were very happy -- although we never did do much with the photos...) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: > > Aahz, > > It's a damn good thing for you that you aren't into something like racing. > My first track time, 25 years ago, was at Bondurant, and it worked out > to something like $100 per hour of track time. In retrospect, that was > some of the cheapest track time I've had. If I were racing, and were > honest about my expenses, in a cheap to run class, and not trying to > win, I might be able to do it for as little as $300 per hour of track > time. $600 for a lens? That's just a weekend of racing, and since I'm > not racing these day... no problem! > > Then there's flying. One reason I never got my pilot's license is that > flying makes racing look cheap. Yup, I know! And yet my primary and I are willing to fly to Wisconsin for a "weekend" convention that actually lasts four days; what with various medical issues and getting a little family time, that ends up being nine hotel nights, car rental, flights, etc, for several thousand dollars. Photo equipment comes out of a different budget, though. (In general, I prioritize spending time with people; if I start prioritizing photography differently -- higher -- that changes the equation quite a bit.) > More seriously, certain levels of performance come with a cost. With > some things, like sensors, the cost of performance gets cheaper over > time. The entry level K500 will outperform any APS sensor camera of > not that many years ago, and the full frame cameras from not long > before that. Other things, well I used to know someone with a .sig > that said "If it weren't for law enforcement and physics, I'd be > unstoppable". If you want a lens with certain capabilities, physics > says it has to be a certain size. Absolutely! I just need to feel comfortable with [paying the money for] that. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
Wear a clean bowling shirt & you should be fine. Also, don't ask the DJ to play any songs by Garth Brooks. On a more practical note, if the wedding is going to be held in a church, scout the location in advance & talk to whatever clergy is going to be in charge there. Find out if they have restrictions ... like no flash; you can only photograph from this place or that place; ... From: Walt Thank you, Stan. One of the reasons I'm so hesitant about this is that it's going to be in a setting of the type I've never, ever been in before. From what I gather, this is going to be a fairly swanky affair replete with bigwigs and such. So, I can't help feeling I'll be the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. The closest thing I've done to this was an awards banquet at the Olympic Club in SF -- back when I crashed on Larry's couch. I'd only been shooting a little over a year at the time, and I've learned a (relatively) huge amount since then. But, still . . . Thanks for the pointer on practicing flash technique. As for what the bride is expecting, as I understand it, she's going to want prints and an album -- likely even a book. I figure I can glean the overall aesthetic she's looking for based on what I see at the wedding itself -- assuming I'm stupid enough to take on the challenge. Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why she might consider someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, John Sessoms wrote: > > On a more practical note, if the wedding is going to be held in a > church, scout the location in advance & talk to whatever clergy is going > to be in charge there. Find out if they have restrictions ... like no > flash; you can only photograph from this place or that place; ... Fortunately, the K-5 makes "no flash" doable, but definitely bring lenses with big apertures. (Not that Walt really needs a reminder given the bar photos he's been taking. But if you rent a spare body, definitely get a K-5.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO Rosie
Lovely, the highlights in the eyes are effective. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 10:10 PM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO Rosie A portrait from the outdoor evening shoot that produced Tres Amigas ... http://flic.kr/p/f3ydb2 Rosie Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Blue and Flowers
Intense colours, lovely Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 9:39 PM To: Pentax List Subject: PESO - Blue and Flowers http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1794&size=lg Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: When Frank Retires
Almost looks like you could build that as a kit :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 12:38 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List; frank theriault Subject: PESO: When Frank Retires http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443904 Comments invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO: Boston fireworks
Wonderful shots, Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Parsons Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 8:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO: Boston fireworks http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157634499838037/ Took these last night during Boston's 4th of July festivities. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Blu
Great job on the background colours, the variatoin pushes the flower out. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 2:51 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Blu http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17445147 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Swallow on a Cat Tail
Certainly works for me, you get drawn to the head with your DOF setting. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 3:36 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Swallow on a Cat Tail My last barn swallow pic for a while (unless I'm really lucky this weekend), this one features a different look. It was overcast and not very bright so instead of bumping up the ISO I decided to open the aperture to (I think) f5.6. I think the narrower dof is kind of cool: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/swallow-on-cat-tail.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank "For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sick transit my istD ???
On 5/7/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting camera >alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... >didnt try to reach inside contacts. > >Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally >but this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary Our istDs does that all the time. I just bang it against the wall for good measure and it makes me feel better. Batteries out, 5 mins, batts back in. Works. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Stuff a guinea pig does
That's not off topic. On 7/5/2013 9:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://themetapicture.com/stuff-my-guinea-pig-does-part-2/ Scroll down to the 6th image, the "hipster." Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
From: Aahz Maruch On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, John Sessoms wrote: On a more practical note, if the wedding is going to be held in a church, scout the location in advance & talk to whatever clergy is going to be in charge there. Find out if they have restrictions ... like no flash; you can only photograph from this place or that place; ... Fortunately, the K-5 makes "no flash" doable, but definitely bring lenses with big apertures. (Not that Walt really needs a reminder given the bar photos he's been taking. But if you rent a spare body, definitely get a K-5.) Whatever the capabilities of the camera, they are no substitute for finding out IN ADVANCE whether the venue has any restrictions. If you can't do anything else, talk to the clergy at the rehearsal & block out your shots with him/her then & there to make sure it's not going to cause ill will between what the bride expects & the church allows. If the restrictions are too onerous, sic the bride's mama on the preacher. You don't want to be learning about restrictions and trying to adapt on the fly while the organist is already playing the processional. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Stuff a guinea pig does
You're right! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 6:00 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > That's not off topic. > > On 7/5/2013 9:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> http://themetapicture.com/stuff-my-guinea-pig-does-part-2/ >> Scroll down to the 6th image, the "hipster." >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> > > > -- > There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive > failure, and those that will. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Blu
Thanks, Gerrit. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote: > Great job on the background colours, the variatoin pushes the flower out. > > Gerrit > > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola > Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 2:51 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: PESO: Blu > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17445147 > Comments are invited. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Calculating hobby cost (was Re: Bracketing on the K5 with pictures of menus)
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote: > On 7/6/2013 10:26 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >> >>Right -- the question is whether I'll enjoy the glass enough over 5-10 >>years. The way I think about stuff like this, I guess/calculate how much >>it costs per hour. So a movie these days is about $10-$15/hour (ticket >>plus munchies). So let's look at how much "basic" Pentax gear would cost >>me, assuming I buy new (all Amazon prices, rounding to nearest $50): >> >>K-5 II with 18-135 WR $1150 >>DA* 60-250$1350 >>D-FA 100mm macro WR$700 >> >>Normally I wouldn't be quite so rigorous in my analysis, but that much >>money makes me think, especially when I already have equipment that gives >>me about eighty percent of this capability (and is significantly better >>in some respects, namely bulk/weight/convenience: Nikon P7100, Canon G1X >>with 250D closeup lens, and a Fuji X-S1 that arrives Tuesday). So >>really, that's 25 hrs/yr *in addition* to what I'm already doing for >>taking photos. Makes it a lot harder to justify to myself. > > My take would be if that's the system you want look at capabilities, > not actual lenses. You could save a bit by getting a used DA 16-50mm > a very good lens, assuming you're going to want the extra reach of > 60-250 which will cover the middle to long telephoto range and look > for a good used A 100mm f4.0 since most macro work is best manual > focus anyway, and it's very good lens that can be had for a lot less > money. That combo would give you almost the same capability and cut > your cost by 1/3 to 1/2. Assuming you mean the DA* 16-50 (as opposed to the DA 16-45), that's a pretty spendy lens itself, and I had some issues with it (more details in another post, but my experience was that it's very nice glass in a shitty lens) -- would only get it as a second-tier lens. I do specifically want the 18-135 WR because of the "WR" and the zoom range (for walk-around capability), plus it's a pretty nice lens. Ditto the D-FA 100mm (which also has a wider aperture), and the kind of macro work I do (mostly outdoor flower porn) definitely takes advantage of auto-focus. (I took a fair number of shots in the rain on my Alaska cruise, IMO there's not much point spending the money on a DSLR-like unless my primary bodies and lenses are WR.) I have indeed thought about capabilities. ;-) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 053 - GDG
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Another photo from Jughandle Ranch in May ... > http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9142068209/lightbox Nice old-timey look -- maybe make it sepia? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
July PUG is up!!
G'day all A fairly small gallery this month and, as usual, you'll find it here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there) Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + We have an extra gallery for July: 'Open Gallery' - closing date 20 July. Quite a few submissions so far - there's no theme, just submit an image you'd like to share. What could be easier? :-)> The August theme is 'Signs of the Times'. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: sick transit my istD ???
My istD has never shown low battery readings on turning on, unless the batteries are genuinely flat! It will show a low or zero battery charge after using the built-in flash, but the On/Off fix works every time. I use Eneloops in it and they last a long time. I would agree that checking the terminals, on both camera and batteries, would be worthwhile. HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 7:48 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: sick transit my istD ??? On 5/7/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well I did Dave Brook's trick of taking out batteries and letting >camera alone for a while - wiped the lid part with a soft lint free cloth... >didnt try to reach inside contacts. > >Leaving the camera without batteries for a while did it finally but >this happening when I really needed the camera ... well.. very scary Our istDs does that all the time. I just bang it against the wall for good measure and it makes me feel better. Batteries out, 5 mins, batts back in. Works. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG is up!!
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013, Brian Walters wrote: > > G'day all > > A fairly small gallery this month and, as usual, you'll find it here: > > http://pug.komkon.org/ Thanks! Interesting how many similar photos there are... (Can't really pick any "best" here.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Just when you thought it had gone away....
http://hypebeast.com/2013/7/pentax-revives-the-k-01-by-marc-newson -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New Firmware for Q and Q10
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/07/04/new-firmware-for-pentax-q10-q -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: July PUG is up!!
I vote 9th Street doggie, followed by Oh, Adam Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 7:34 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: July PUG is up!! G'day all A fairly small gallery this month and, as usual, you'll find it here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there) Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + We have an extra gallery for July: 'Open Gallery' - closing date 20 July. Quite a few submissions so far - there's no theme, just submit an image you'd like to share. What could be easier? :-)> The August theme is 'Signs of the Times'. Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity
Walt - It sounds as though there are a lot of unknowns at this point. A good long talk with the bride to be should give you an idea of what she wants. You need to know her expectations and results that she wants - CD, 8x10s, album, books, etc. Once you know what she wants then you can decide if it's something you can deliver. What pixs does she want - of whom? Who are the special people? Many times these are the last photos of old folks before they die. Get a checklist and have her mark what pix she and the groom want. If you can't find anything by googling let me know and I'll get you a couple samples. When it comes to what the bride, groom and their families want, get as much in writing as possible. A completed checklist signed by the bride (and groom) is invaluable both as a reminder to you of what pix to take and as something to point to when someone after the fact says "but you didn't get that shot that I wanted". They also need to sign off on all the locations and what time you are to be at each one. Know the venue. Where are good shooting locations and what limitations does the clergy have? Sometimes it's not just a case of flash or no flash. I had one minister tell me if he caught me taking *any* pix he'd stop the ceremony and throw me out. OTOH, a Russian Orthodox priest told me his only restriction was that I couldn't stand up on the altar behind him. Have an agreement about what happens in the event something unforseen happens and you can't do the shoot. What if you are struck down by bad lobster the night before the wedding? No alcohol for you...you're working!!! Then...have fun! Will let you know if I think of anything else. -p On 7/6/2013 12:30 PM, Walt wrote: Thank you, Stan. One of the reasons I'm so hesitant about this is that it's going to be in a setting of the type I've never, ever been in before. From what I gather, this is going to be a fairly swanky affair replete with bigwigs and such. So, I can't help feeling I'll be the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. The closest thing I've done to this was an awards banquet at the Olympic Club in SF -- back when I crashed on Larry's couch. I'd only been shooting a little over a year at the time, and I've learned a (relatively) huge amount since then. But, still . . . Thanks for the pointer on practicing flash technique. As for what the bride is expecting, as I understand it, she's going to want prints and an album -- likely even a book. I figure I can glean the overall aesthetic she's looking for based on what I see at the wedding itself -- assuming I'm stupid enough to take on the challenge. Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why she might consider someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;) -- Walt On 7/6/2013 11:55 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: The little I know about wedding photography comes from reading this list plus watching the photographers at my own weddings. So, no specific advice, but if it were me, my preparation would probably involve a few aspects. First, read. (By coincidence this offer showed up in my in-box today. No clue if this is good, bad, or indifferent, but it is a reminder that there are resources out there: ( http://www.peachpit.com/deals/?WT.mc_id=2013_July_6_PP_PBM_WeddingShots_EDOW_ends ) Second, at least sample some of the web resources Bruce mentioned. Third, sit with the bride-to-be (and her mother if the mother is going to be influential throughout the process) and go through some of her friend's wedding albums, talking about what shots she (they) particularly want and expect to be in the eventual wedding album. Fourth, practice your flash technique in spaces similar to what you'll see before-during-after the wedding. If you only get proficient in using bounce-flash in low-ceilinged bars or basements, you might be at a loss in a high-ceilinged church. (Speaking of church, find out early what sort of restrictions there will be on photography during the service; if it a church, some pastors can be quite fussy about photography in general, about the use of flash [generally not accepted], etc.) Fifth, make sure that you and the bride-to-be are totally in synch with respect to what the product will be. Prints? Albums? 600x800 jpeg's on Facebook? Does she expect to see everything, or is she willing to let you cull and select the better shots for her to choose from? And then prepare yourself for the process of editing, posting, printing . . . And how soon does she want to see proofs? Note that her friends will have wedding shots posted on Facebook before the reception is over. She'll be willing to endure a wait for your higher-quality images, but it may not take many days before your contribution to the image set is seen as an afterthought, a footnote to the big event rather than a majo
Re: PESO: When Frank Retires
Cool bike - I pulled out of my driveway and got behind a guy on something like that a few days ago. I wondered when you pedaled and when you just let the motor do its thing. He was tooling along at 25 mph, which is the speed limit, so he kpt me legal for a block or two. On 7/6/2013 12:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443904 Comments invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field
I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems like stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it yesterday with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through. But here are the first: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab a fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up. All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will work out. C&C appreciated. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)
Aahz Sir, my son went thru the same thought process, namely: a) Prefer a compact camera with some capability of a DSLR b) Viewfinder not essential- comfortable with LCD. c) DSLR size like my K-5 a big NO. d) Money not a very big issue - can spend up to CAD 650 e) Decent video capability as an add on. He borrowed a friends Nikon D5200, but returned it the same day. He than got the Sony Nex-5R CAD 570 with the 18-55 lens and the Nex-3N CAD 400 with the 16-50 Lens. After extensive tests and general feel of the cameras, he kept the Nex-3N. These Nex's have an APS-C sensor. Pretty impressive too as per DxO mark. And Aahz I wouldn't bother too much about Hobby Cost, as just holding a camera gives me immense pleasure and happiness. Do ring in this stress busting calculation into the costing. And I don't even make money with my hobby. I too waited and waited for the "right technology". Bought a Minolta bridge digital camera in 2003, till my daughter gave me a K20D in 2009. She said, hey Papa, technology will keep overtaking you, get it now. So why wait for another 5 or 10 years - a $ now may be 10 times in your technology future. Just my 2-cents, from a wise spender, a master mechanic and all things photographic buzz; ah! and I forget, a retired old fart of an Advisor in the worlds biggest conglomerate. Doesn't sound like a free sermon I hope? Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Porsche
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443939 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just when you thought it had gone away....
"Due to increased demand from Japan..." I remember reading that the difference between Japanese car owners and American car owners was that Americans drove their cars, Japanese more often admired them as a kind of industrial art. I'm beginning to believe that article was correct. On 7/6/2013 7:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote: http://hypebeast.com/2013/7/pentax-revives-the-k-01-by-marc-newson -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
