Re: GESO - tour of the library

[David Mann]

On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Derby Chang  wrote:

> Took the afternoon off for a rather special treat. The State Library is 
> putting the pics from the Street show into their collection, so we 
> photographers were asked to sign some papers. Of course, we could have done 
> this by email, but where is the fun in that? The bonus was the curator of 
> photography taking us on a viewing of some tasty gems in the archives. I 
> thought we would be there about an hour. We were there for almost three.
> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/08/library/index.html

Looks like you could spend a lot more than three hours exploring those 
archives.  I get the impression the curator is passionate about his job, too.

I'm about to start a process of scanning a box of old slides from a 1926 visit 
to Australia of the Empire Parliamentary Delegation, whatever that was.  I'm 
not 100% sure how we came into possession of these, only that they've come 
through my wife's family.  I would assume it came via John Barr who was one of 
her ancestors: he was a member of the NZ Legislative Council at the time so 
it's possible he met with the delegation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barr_(New_Zealand_politician)

There's a commemorative book of prints as well but I don't know if they're just 
prints of the slides.  I hope they are as they're labelled much better.

The slides are sandwiched between glass which was taped together.  There's a 
bit of card in with the film which forms a frame: I think the film is about 
70mm square and the frame crops this to about 6x7 format.  The glass measures 
83mm square.

I wasn't sure I'd be able to scan them at all - taking them apart is out of the 
question as I don't want to risk damaging them; I'd rather leave that job to 
professional archivists.  Luckily I've managed to bodge up an arrangement with 
one of my 6x9 film holders...

I might post a few as I go along, if they're interesting enough.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

[David Mann]

On Aug 28, 2013, at 10:46 AM, knarf  wrote:

> Road cycling is riddled with performance enhancers. Track cycling is clean.
> 
> I heard that once.
> 
> Really.

I wish I could believe it.  Even triathletes are getting busted now :(  They 
also occasionally get caught turning before the official turnaround point on an 
out-and-back bike/run section, so drugs aren't the only way to cheat.

Cheers,
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Steve Cottrell]

On 28/8/13, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-
>resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-
>list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1
>
>http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-
>pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?
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Re: PESO: BARBERTON DAISY with INSECT

[David Mann]

On Aug 27, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Alan C  wrote:

> This is an original single variety which blooms like clockwork in my garden 
> every spring. Most gardeners grow the fancy double hybrids. The Barberton 
> Daisy is indigenous to the mountainous area bordering Swaziland, about 350km 
> south of Phalaborwa.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9606991704/lightbox/

Nice.  Really pops out of the background.  It looks like a firework display.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO Patriot

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
Thanks for the education.
I never considered that it might be an advertising slogan.
Was it Harry Carrie who was a 'Bud man and a Sox fan'
here in Chicago.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:59 PM, knarf  wrote:
> Yeah, we're so fuckin' polite, eh?
>
> ;-)
>
> Btw, he's not showing national pride, he's advertising beer. Molson Canadian 
> is one of our best selling beers. I Am Canadian is it's slogan.
>
> When they instituted the ad campaign this went viral:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRI-A3vakVg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>
> Managed to convince millions to drink the bitter, over-carbonated swill. Go 
> figure.
>
> Oh yeah, terrific photo, Paul! Lots of character captured.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> Don Guthrie  wrote:
>>I did not think a Canadian needed a t-shirt to be so identified. Would
>>you not know them just by their polite manner? I mean you can always
>>tell a Canadian ... even if you can't tell them much. Love the photo by
>>
>>the way.
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - Welcome to Berkeley

[Marco Alpert]

Thanks Derby and Bruce for the comments.

   -Marco

On Aug 27, 2013, at 4:23 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

> The tonal separation on the faces is terrific. Can see their puzzlement 
> completely
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/08/2013 1:39 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso16.html
>> 
>> Last week, I found myself with an afternoon to kill in Berkeley. Although 
>> I'd been back to Berkeley many times since I was a student there in the 
>> tumultuous days of the mid-to-late 60s, I don't think I'd ever taken the 
>> time to simply wander at leisure around the campus and experience the time 
>> warp of memories. The semester hadn't started yet, but students, in some 
>> cases accompanied by their families, were were beginning to arrive on 
>> campus. I've just begin to go through the photos I took, so the next few 
>> PESOs will be from my wanderings.
>> 
>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
>> 
>> -Marco
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PESO - Family Stroll

[Marco Alpert]

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso17.html

Another from Berkeley.

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO b&w portrait of Sophie

[knarf]

Beautiful portrait of a lovely young lady.

Cheers,
frank

Bruce Walker  wrote:
>She went back to being a kid again for this one.
>
>http://flic.kr/p/fDr2Sh
>
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Re: PESO Patriot

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Frank. Lots of Canadian Mopar owners at the Nats. The folks I was 
working for have a booth where they peddle magazien subscriptions and due to 
postage considerations, the Canadian price is different. The booth workers said 
they sold a lot of subs to Canadian citizens, and I think one of the cars I 
shot was from Ontario. It's only a bit over 200 miles from Windsor to Columbus, 
Ohio. 
Paul
On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:59 PM, knarf  wrote:

> Yeah, we're so fuckin' polite, eh?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Btw, he's not showing national pride, he's advertising beer. Molson Canadian 
> is one of our best selling beers. I Am Canadian is it's slogan.
> 
> When they instituted the ad campaign this went viral:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRI-A3vakVg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
> 
> Managed to convince millions to drink the bitter, over-carbonated swill. Go 
> figure.
> 
> Oh yeah, terrific photo, Paul! Lots of character captured.
> 
> Cheers, 
> frank
> 
> Don Guthrie  wrote:
>> I did not think a Canadian needed a t-shirt to be so identified. Would 
>> you not know them just by their polite manner? I mean you can always 
>> tell a Canadian ... even if you can't tell them much. Love the photo by
>> 
>> the way.
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO Patriot

[knarf]

Yeah, we're so fuckin' polite, eh?

;-)

Btw, he's not showing national pride, he's advertising beer. Molson Canadian is 
one of our best selling beers. I Am Canadian is it's slogan.

When they instituted the ad campaign this went viral:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRI-A3vakVg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Managed to convince millions to drink the bitter, over-carbonated swill. Go 
figure.

Oh yeah, terrific photo, Paul! Lots of character captured.

Cheers, 
frank

Don Guthrie  wrote:
>I did not think a Canadian needed a t-shirt to be so identified. Would 
>you not know them just by their polite manner? I mean you can always 
>tell a Canadian ... even if you can't tell them much. Love the photo by
>
>the way.
>
>
>pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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>> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:34:45 -0400
>> From: Paul Stenquist
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>> Message-ID:
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RE: PESO - Kitchen Party at Coffee Time

[knarf]

I actually have a semi-interesting family history. I'm aware of Jehan Teriou 
(I've seen different spellings), the proto-Theriault. I knew he arrived in 
Acadia before 1635, hadn't seen it narrowed down to 1632.

Cool. 

Acadien French is certainly tough to understand. I spoke a fair bit of French 
when I was in my ancestral homeland, the Magdellan Islands about ten years ago 
(there's not much English spoken there). I was told my accent was pretty good. 
Not sure if that's a complement or not.  ;-)

It's a mish-mash of archaic French, with English and Miq'maq words thrown in. 
Always sounds to me like French with an Appalachian accent. 

It's ironic that the attempt to eliminate them (the Expulsion of 1755 has been 
called one of the first instances of ethnic cleansing) ended up crystallizing 
into the defining moment of the culture. Every Acadian identifies the East 
Coast as their homeland; many feel that they are more Acadian than Canadian or 
Quebecois - much to the consternation of the separatist provincial government. 

Oh well, history lesson over. 

Thanks for the info, Bob!

Cheers,
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Bob W  wrote:
>That's a great video. I can't tell what language they're singing in,
>which
>is a pity as I like hearing varieties of French; indeed, of all
>languages. 
>
>I have a very interesting book about varieties of French 
> 
>which includes a very good discussion about Acadian French, and some of
>the
>differences with standard French. 
>
>Many Acadian expressions survive in the patois of Loudun and Richelieu,
>the
>Seigneurie d'Aulnay, between Berry and Poitou, from where the first
>families
>came. 
>Some of the expressions are even found in the writing of Rabelais, and
>12th
>C French lit.
>
>Here's your family crest. Click on it to follow one branch of the
>genealogy:
>
>
>This tells us that you came from the Loudon area, left France with
>Commander
>de Razilly at the beginning of July 1632, arriving at La Heve, Nova
>Scotia,
>On 14 August, and settled in Port Royal, like everyone else.
>
>Your ancestor Jehan (=Jean, John) was a peaceful labourer who married
>Perrine Breau. They had 7 children, from whom all the Theriault
>families are
>descended.
>
>B
>
>p.s. sorry for breaking the threading with this reply - it was
>originally
>bounced because my stupid iPad turned it into HTML.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 25 Aug 2013, at 02:20, knarf  wrote:
>
>
>Booze isn't always a huge part of a kitchen party. Depends what time of
>day
>or night they are I guess. 
>And the dancing tends to be step dancing or folk dancing, not couples
>dancing (although sometimes it is).
>
>Here's a family oriented Acadian kitchen party in Grosse Coques, Cape
>Breton, Nova Scotia, featuring dancers toward the end of the video:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR8HMvnZiqQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>
>As you might be able to tell, Acadien French is very archaic and
>unique. You
>may also know that many Acadiens went down to Louisiana after the
>Expulsion
>in 1755 and became the present day Cajuns. 
>
>I am from East Coast Acadien roots (Theriault is a common name down
>there,
>we arrived in present day Nova Scotia around 1635).
>
>But I digress: Kitchen parties are popular all over the East Coast from
>New
>Brunswick to Newfoundland.
>
>Cheers,
>frank

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Re: PESO 2013 - 087 - GDG

[Mark C]

Ah... simplicity... That's a great shot - wonderful lines, design and 
tonality, and it just feels really comfortable. Happy birthday!


Mark

On 8/26/2013 3:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Espresso on my birthday morning. Ah, nice!

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9602594016/lightbox

Thanks for looking!

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Re: PESO b&w portrait of Sophie

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:44:32PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
> She went back to being a kid again for this one.
> 
> http://flic.kr/p/fDr2Sh

lovely expresion. Nice separation from the background.

her skin is so clear and white, it almost looks like she was 
photographed in infrared.

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PESO - The Kitchen Party Continues

[knarf]

I showed a photograph of these two last week,

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/08/kitchen-party-at-coffee-time.html?m=1

mentioning that everyone at the coffee shop they played at had a good time. One 
wag (Jack, actually) said it didn't look like the singers were having a 
particularly good time - a fair comment.

So in the interest of balance and fairness, here they are, looking a bit more 
affable:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/08/the-kitchen-party-continues.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. 

Cheers,
frank

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PESO b&w portrait of Sophie

[Bruce Walker]

She went back to being a kid again for this one.

http://flic.kr/p/fDr2Sh

K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8; 3 flashes, 2 reflectors; Lr, Ps, Nik Silver Efex Pro

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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

It's never stopped me either. 

Godfrey


On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> ...Not that I'll let a little thing like nobody else understanding one of
> my jokes stop me from making it.  ...

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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Bruce Walker]

You're welcome, Paul.

I forgot to mention: 11. return layer opacity to 100%, but that's
probably pretty obvious.

This technique is a great way to reduce lumps and bumps in people, as
in clothing, love handles, etc. Substitute the Warp tool for the
Distort tool.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Thanks! I'm going to give it a try. This technique could prove to be 
> frequently useful.
>
> Paul
> On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> Secret retouching technique! :-)
>>
>> 1. marquee from the top of the image down to just above the car's hood
>> and trunk (ie including as much corn as possible, but excluding as
>> much car as possible).
>> 2. switch to lasso: hold Option and lasso around the roof of the car.
>> This will exclude the roof from the selection.
>> 3. Cmd-J to clone selection (corn and background) to new layer; name it 
>> "warp"
>> 4. Cmd-T to show grab handles.
>> 5. right-click for menu: choose Distort.
>> 6. tug upward on upper-right handle until corn is level (I turned on
>> View Grid to help).
>>
>> There's now a horizontal mismatch between the corn stalks on both layers ...
>>
>> 7. add a layer mask to "warp".
>> 8. select a large soft Brush, 100% opacity and flow; choose Black colour.
>> 9. reduce the opacity of the original car layer so the warp layer's
>> edge stands out
>> 10. making sure mask is selected, paint along the bottom edge of the warp
>> layer. The brush center should just follow the line. This will
>> create a smooth
>> gradient that will blend the two layers right at the interface point.
>>
>> Ta-da! Merge layers and or save-to-web, etc.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>>
 Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left
 downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn
 stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is.

 BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool
 in a minute or two. Here's my try ...

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/17510003-lg-str8.jpg
>>>
>>> Nice, but how did you avoid stretching the car as well? I've used free 
>>> transform quite a bit, but it distorts  the entire image area.
>>>
>>> Paul


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist  
 wrote:
> I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
> profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
> shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited 
> access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it 
> is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the 
> horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going downhill and the 
> cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  
> it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that manner:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
>
> Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for 
> the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but 
> when making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
>
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Re: PESO Patriot

[Joseph McAllister]

On Aug 27, 2013, at 13:54 , Jack Davis wrote:

> He looks as though he's suffering a punishment.
>  
> Jack ;-)

Of course! He's a Canadian!

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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Aahz Maruch]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:07:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>> 
>>>Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm.
>> 
>> I thought the notion of a "full frame" flash was pretty funny.
> 
> I'm glad that somebody besides me did.
> 
> Not that I'll let a little thing like nobody else understanding one of
> my jokes stop me from making it.  

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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Larry Colen]

On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:49:32AM +1000, Tanya Love wrote:
> This is huge for me! This could very well stop me from switching to Canon for 
> the time being.

Yes, it's funny how a flash being weatherproof can be important when you
don't expect it to.

> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 28/08/2013, at 10:06 AM, John Celio  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
> >  wrote:
> >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1
> >> 
> >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0
> >> 
> > 
> > Interesting development. As an owner of the DA 21 and 35 Limited
> > lenses, I am very curious to see how much of a difference the aperture
> > blades and new coating make. I probably won't be upgrading my existing
> > lenses, but it might impact which version of the other DA lenses I buy
> > someday in the future.
> > 
> > As for the flashes, there is one thing that concerns me: The new 540
> > II does not appear to support external power packs. The original 540's
> > page on Ricoh's site for Pentax flashes lists the TR Power Pack 3 in
> > the recycle times, but the 540 II doesn't mention that. Plus, there's
> > no photos (yet) of the left side of either new flash, which is making
> > me wonder if there's anything there at all.
> > 
> > I realize there aren't many people who use external power packs, but
> > I'd been planning on getting the TR Power Pack 3 the next time I shoot
> > an event with my 540, and it would have been nice to have that option
> > on future flashes.
> > 
> > John
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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[Joseph McAllister]

Eric -

USPS has been advertising on TV all month that they automatically track and 
insure ($50) all Priority Mail service now. As a matter of fact, they track the 
following for free -  Priority Mail, Standard Post, and First-Class Mail 
parcels (electronic option). They only charge $.20 if postage is purchased 
online, $.90 at the post office. Most businesses use Standard Post (see how 
your first package was sent) for the low-cost option.

On Aug 27, 2013, at 17:29 , Eric Weir wrote:

> On Aug 27, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> 
>> I would expect the credit card company to refund your money
>> (performing a chargeback against OpTech). Getting the merchandise
>> another way will be your problem--can you get what you need from B&H
>> or a local shop in time?
> 
> Thanks, Matthew. I think OP-Tech will give me a refund if the order is not 
> delivered after a month. At Steve's suggestion I'm going to be checking 
> Amazon. Will check B&H, and maybe Adorama, too.


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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Tanya Love]

This is huge for me! This could very well stop me from switching to Canon for 
the time being.

Sent from my iPhone

On 28/08/2013, at 10:06 AM, John Celio  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
>  wrote:
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1
>> 
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0
>> 
> 
> Interesting development. As an owner of the DA 21 and 35 Limited
> lenses, I am very curious to see how much of a difference the aperture
> blades and new coating make. I probably won't be upgrading my existing
> lenses, but it might impact which version of the other DA lenses I buy
> someday in the future.
> 
> As for the flashes, there is one thing that concerns me: The new 540
> II does not appear to support external power packs. The original 540's
> page on Ricoh's site for Pentax flashes lists the TR Power Pack 3 in
> the recycle times, but the 540 II doesn't mention that. Plus, there's
> no photos (yet) of the left side of either new flash, which is making
> me wonder if there's anything there at all.
> 
> I realize there aren't many people who use external power packs, but
> I'd been planning on getting the TR Power Pack 3 the next time I shoot
> an event with my 540, and it would have been nice to have that option
> on future flashes.
> 
> John
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Need to Bake Some Bread?

[Brian Walters]

..got an old, heavy zoom lens?

http://www.photographybay.com/2013/08/27/bh-contest-wants-you-to-show-off-unintended-uses-for-your-gear/



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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[Eric Weir]

On Aug 27, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:

> I would expect the credit card company to refund your money
> (performing a chargeback against OpTech). Getting the merchandise
> another way will be your problem--can you get what you need from B&H
> or a local shop in time?

Thanks, Matthew. I think OP-Tech will give me a refund if the order is not 
delivered after a month. At Steve's suggestion I'm going to be checking Amazon. 
Will check B&H, and maybe Adorama, too.

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[Eric Weir]

On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:37 PM, steve harley  wrote:

> i doubt Op-tech does a lot of direct sales; the Op-tech products i've bought 
> have been from a local camera store (Denver Pro Photo) but i've also seen 
> their products on sites like Amazon; if i needed something from Op-tech that 
> i couldn't get locally, i would probably use Amazon, and use their fast 
> shipping if necessary - you could still do that if you are pretty sure the 
> shipment was lost.

Thanks, Steve. That didn't occur to me. I assumed direct purchase from them 
would be quickest. That that's not the case became obvious when I called back a 
second time today to see if I could place a duplicate order, have it shipped 
second-day UPS, and return the first order for a refund if it is ever 
delivered. They said, "Of course." The catch was it would take them* two days* 
to get an estimate of the cost of second-day UPS shipping.

I'll check Amazon.

Thanks for the suggestion,
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:07:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> >Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm.
> 
> I thought the notion of a "full frame" flash was pretty funny.

I'm glad that somebody besides me did.

Not that I'll let a little thing like nobody else understanding one of
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

>Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm.

I thought the notion of a "full frame" flash was pretty funny.
 
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[John Celio]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, "Dario Bonazza"
 wrote:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0
>

Interesting development. As an owner of the DA 21 and 35 Limited
lenses, I am very curious to see how much of a difference the aperture
blades and new coating make. I probably won't be upgrading my existing
lenses, but it might impact which version of the other DA lenses I buy
someday in the future.

As for the flashes, there is one thing that concerns me: The new 540
II does not appear to support external power packs. The original 540's
page on Ricoh's site for Pentax flashes lists the TR Power Pack 3 in
the recycle times, but the 540 II doesn't mention that. Plus, there's
no photos (yet) of the left side of either new flash, which is making
me wonder if there's anything there at all.

I realize there aren't many people who use external power packs, but
I'd been planning on getting the TR Power Pack 3 the next time I shoot
an event with my 540, and it would have been nice to have that option
on future flashes.

John

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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Paul Stenquist]

I just had to buy a new 540 for my mopar nats shoot, as both of my old one were 
at CRIS. Arrrgh.

Paul
On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:47:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote:
>> Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand?  Because
>> they haven't announced a full frame camera?  Because the flashes don't
>> cover a 24x36 frame?
> 
> Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm.
> 
>> Sheesh.  It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years,
>> and it's a feature that no other brand offers.  This is a shot across
>> the bow of Canon and Nikon.  The price is completely ridiculous, but I
>> really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand.
> 
> That is exactly what my point was.  This is a major, and much needed 
> upgrade. Didn't Ricewhine actually predict something like this about 
> a year ago?
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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks! I'm going to give it a try. This technique could prove to be frequently 
useful. 

Paul
On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> Secret retouching technique! :-)
> 
> 1. marquee from the top of the image down to just above the car's hood
> and trunk (ie including as much corn as possible, but excluding as
> much car as possible).
> 2. switch to lasso: hold Option and lasso around the roof of the car.
> This will exclude the roof from the selection.
> 3. Cmd-J to clone selection (corn and background) to new layer; name it "warp"
> 4. Cmd-T to show grab handles.
> 5. right-click for menu: choose Distort.
> 6. tug upward on upper-right handle until corn is level (I turned on
> View Grid to help).
> 
> There's now a horizontal mismatch between the corn stalks on both layers ...
> 
> 7. add a layer mask to "warp".
> 8. select a large soft Brush, 100% opacity and flow; choose Black colour.
> 9. reduce the opacity of the original car layer so the warp layer's
> edge stands out
> 10. making sure mask is selected, paint along the bottom edge of the warp
> layer. The brush center should just follow the line. This will
> create a smooth
> gradient that will blend the two layers right at the interface point.
> 
> Ta-da! Merge layers and or save-to-web, etc.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> 
>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left
>>> downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn
>>> stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is.
>>> 
>>> BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool
>>> in a minute or two. Here's my try ...
>>> 
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/17510003-lg-str8.jpg
>> 
>> Nice, but how did you avoid stretching the car as well? I've used free 
>> transform quite a bit, but it distorts  the entire image area.
>> 
>> Paul
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist  
>>> wrote:
 I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
 profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
 shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited 
 access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it 
 is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the 
 horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going downhill and the 
 cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  
 it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that manner:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
 
 Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for 
 the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but 
 when making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
 
 
 
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Re: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

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Excellent set. I especially like the mirror photo. Intriguing.

Paul
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> I think you may have accidentally outed Daniel Craig who was in deep
> cover in that first shot of the set. Quite fine shots here, Don. I
> especially like the guitar player with dog, and the two mirror shots.
> 
> I believe your seminar was a good one!
> 
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>> I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo
>> walk in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped me
>> get over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of these
>> were taken with K-01 & some with my carry around travel "other" camera.
>> 
>> Comments & Critique solicited.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/
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Re: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

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I think you may have accidentally outed Daniel Craig who was in deep
cover in that first shot of the set. Quite fine shots here, Don. I
especially like the guitar player with dog, and the two mirror shots.

I believe your seminar was a good one!

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> walk in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped me
> get over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of these
> were taken with K-01 & some with my carry around travel "other" camera.
>
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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[steve harley]

on 2013-08-27 10:10 Eric Weir wrote

I like their products. Their customer service stinks.


i doubt Op-tech does a lot of direct sales; the Op-tech products i've bought 
have been from a local camera store (Denver Pro Photo) but i've also seen their 
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:47:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote:
> Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand?  Because
> they haven't announced a full frame camera?  Because the flashes don't
> cover a 24x36 frame?

Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm.

> Sheesh.  It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years,
> and it's a feature that no other brand offers.  This is a shot across
> the bow of Canon and Nikon.  The price is completely ridiculous, but I
> really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand.

That is exactly what my point was.  This is a major, and much needed 
upgrade. Didn't Ricewhine actually predict something like this about 
a year ago?


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Re: Pentax Models

[Brian Walters]

Hi John

The DS was (is) a great camera - I still have mine and occasionally  
drag it out for old times' sake...


But the K5, K50 and K500 are all significant upgrades.  You won't lose  
a single thing with any of them in comparison with the DS.


There's no need for me to add any more praise of the K5 to what others  
have already bestowed but here's a couple of reviews of the K50 and  
K500 to confuse the issue :-)>


http://www.ephotozine.com/article/pentax-k-500-digital-slr-review-22469

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/pentax-k-50-digital-slr-review-22468



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Quoting John :

Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500  
models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is  
causing the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an  
upgrade from my DS.  What experience have people had with these  
cameras.  Are any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are,  
but at what cost?) What features am I giving up that I would miss  
beyond comprehension if I purchased a particular camera model.  
Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps grinding out pictures even though  
they are not full frame and ? pixel pictures.


Seriously, are there any reviews of these models  that you really  
trust.or distrust?


Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts and advice.  And I thought  
purchasing the DS was a hard decision.  I do have a couple of film  
cameras if anyone is interested.  Respooling B&W film is not all  
that bad!


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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

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Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Some people may want to check the batteries in their Humor Detector.
> : )
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full
>>> frame .
>>
>> What's the difference between a flash that covers an effective FoV and a 
>> full frame flash? Other than the markings...
>>
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Darren Addy]

Some people may want to check the batteries in their Humor Detector.
: )

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>> Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full
>> frame .
>
> What's the difference between a flash that covers an effective FoV and a full 
> frame flash? Other than the markings...
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full
> frame .

What's the difference between a flash that covers an effective FoV and a full 
frame flash? Other than the markings...

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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

[knarf]

Yes, there is a reason track bikes have rear-facing dropouts. 

;-)

Thanks to all who looked and commented. Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers, 
frank

David Mann  wrote:
>On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:08 AM, knarf  wrote:
>
>> Spoke cards in the spokes of a messengers old beater work bike. It's
>a road bike converted to a single speed city bike:
>> 
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/08/conversion.html?m=1
>> 
>> The cards indicate involvement in various events, usually alleyways
>(illegal street races).
>
>I hope that nut is tight as hell.  Wouldn't want to have the wheel pull
>out when the power goes on :)
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[David Parsons]

Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand?  Because
they haven't announced a full frame camera?  Because the flashes don't
cover a 24x36 frame?

Sheesh.  It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years,
and it's a feature that no other brand offers.  This is a shot across
the bow of Canon and Nikon.  The price is completely ridiculous, but I
really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand.

The full frame obsession is sickening, and blinds you to any positive
thing that Ricoh does to enhance the brand.  Because they don't do the
one thing that you believe is the only thing that they can be
competitive, you dismiss the entire brand as dead.  I guess there is
no harsher critic than a fan.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote:
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1
>
> Very interesting.  That weather sealing is a very nice features.
>
>>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0
>
> Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an 
> upgraded one.
>
> It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a 
> brand is
> doomed.  Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about
> pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even 
> full
> frame flashes?  Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed.
>
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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

[knarf]

Road cycling is riddled with performance enhancers. Track cycling is clean.

I heard that once.

Really.

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David Mann  wrote:
>On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>
>> The first Tour de France took place in 1903. Geared bicycles weren't
>allowed until 1937 - the organisers thought they were for girly-boys.
>And they clearly do, since a mere three years after their introduction
>came the debacle of 1940.
>
>
>And in case you disagree, here's an infamous photo from the 2012
>Olympics.  Girly-boy road sprinter on the left, hard-man track sprinter
>on the right.
>
>http://pic.twitter.com/91Y7S7ps
>(might not be entirely work-safe depending on your workplace)
>
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Bruce Walker]

The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful
than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as
a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use
to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone?

But the constant light source for video is unique in speedlights and
will probably get copied. Well, well: somebody's actually awake in
their R&D department.

I like that the new flash models are reduced in height too. The
original 540 is too tall to fit in my Westcott mini softbox and I'm
using an old AF200 instead.

I don't like that the focus assist function only works with the latest
camera bodies. FA works just fine on the old AF540 with my K20D.

I also don't like that the prices are (still) so high for both models.
Not good value.


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>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0
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Re: Pictures

[steve harley]

on 2013-08-27 13:31 Bruce Walker wrote

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:57 PM, John  wrote:


Unfortunately most of my "old lenses" are screw mount (Is there an adapter for 
screw mount?)


John, indeed there are M42 adapters. I recommend spending the extra
money on the Real Genuine Pentax one though: "Mount Adapter K". The
horror stories about the eBay imitations getting jammed into camera
bodies are legion. Mine set me back $30 in 2007.


i have bought the eBay units, and removed the little spring before use … no 
problems; have also bought M42 to m43 (Micro 4/3) adapter on eBay and it works 
well (SMC Macro-Takumar 50/4 is a cool lens on m43)


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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

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> It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a 
> brand is
> doomed.  Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about
> pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even 
> full
> frame flashes?  Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed.
>

I totally noticed.  All I know is, if I can't get a full frame flash
soon, I'm gonna sell all my gear & just shoot with my iphone.

;)
-c

ps: thanks, Dario for sharing the link, I had just caught a whiff of
it on fb, and was in mid-google when I checked the list for news...
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Re: New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1

Very interesting.  That weather sealing is a very nice features.

> 
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0

Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an 
upgraded one.

It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand 
is
doomed.  Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about 
pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full 
frame flashes?  Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed.

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Re: PESO: BARBERTON DAISY with INSECT

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Quoting Alan C :
>
>> This is an original single variety which blooms like clockwork in my
>> garden every spring. Most gardeners grow the fancy double hybrids. The
>> Barberton Daisy is indigenous to the mountainous area bordering Swaziland,
>> about 350km south of Phalaborwa.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9606991704/lightbox/
>
> Spectacular colour.  I like the composition with the dark background - works
> well with the colour of the bracts.

Ditto what Brian said. Stellar flower shot.

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New weatherproof flash units & HD Limited lenses

[Dario Bonazza]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_0 



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Re: PESO - Welcome to Berkeley

[Bruce Walker]

Yeah, what Derby said. Great story there, Marco.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
> The tonal separation on the faces is terrific. Can see their puzzlement
> completely
>
>
>
>
> On 27/08/2013 1:39 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso16.html
>>
>> Last week, I found myself with an afternoon to kill in Berkeley. Although
>> I'd been back to Berkeley many times since I was a student there in the
>> tumultuous days of the mid-to-late 60s, I don't think I'd ever taken the
>> time to simply wander at leisure around the campus and experience the time
>> warp of memories. The semester hadn't started yet, but students, in some
>> cases accompanied by their families, were were beginning to arrive on
>> campus. I've just begin to go through the photos I took, so the next few
>> PESOs will be from my wanderings.
>>
>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
>>
>> -Marco
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Re: Quasi-OT GESO

[Mark Roberts]

Bruce Walker wrote:

>Super shots, Mark! Your descriptions add a lot to enjoying them.
>
>(Psst: images from ch 24 and 27 are busted.)

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Re: GESO - tour of the library

[Bruce Walker]

What a fabulous perq there, Derby. Congratulations!

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
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> Took the afternoon off for a rather special treat. The State Library is
> putting the pics from the Street show into their collection, so we
> photographers were asked to sign some papers. Of course, we could have done
> this by email, but where is the fun in that? The bonus was the curator of
> photography taking us on a viewing of some tasty gems in the archives. I
> thought we would be there about an hour. We were there for almost three.
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/08/library/index.html
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Re: Quasi-OT GESO

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Super shots, Mark! Your descriptions add a lot to enjoying them.

(Psst: images from ch 24 and 27 are busted.)


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Quasi-OT GESO

[Mark Roberts]

I'm (slowly) building a web site for my Photoshop textbook and I just
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images that I put at the beginning of each chapter, but there are a
few extras in there and I expect to add more soon.

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Re: PESO Patriot

[Jack Davis]

He looks as though he's suffering a punishment.
 
Jack ;-)


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Subject: PESO Patriot

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518

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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Ann Sanfedele]

Bruce, the grammarian, strikes!

ann(oh did i really say than and don't worry it's only the editing I'm 
doing)san


On 8/27/2013 14:31, Bruce Walker wrote:

Ann! Please! Put the gun down and back away from the keyboard.

;-)


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff...

But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember
(that's not a real question) last month when I said if I had to go through
400 wedding photos I'd shoot myself? -- alas, looks like I'm doing that...

Terrible lighting coniditions - TOO MUCH light! ugh...
But I'm richer by a K-5 and that makes it worth while

ann



On 8/27/2013 11:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn
would be nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without
manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus
doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their
way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The
car owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't
charge enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.

.
On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


I shouldn't even be here but --
my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't
enough - or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
don't mind the corn slant.

ok back underground
a

On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:


Quoting Paul Stenquist :


I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
manner:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?




Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
it out.

The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
lot.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Jack Davis]

YES! Very distracting.

Sorry to say, Paul.

Jack


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On 27/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
>
>Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for
>the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but
>when making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.


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Re: Pentax Models

[Larry Colen]

I can assure you that a K-5 will simply blow you away.
If you do a lot of low-light autofocus, the K-5 II is noticably better.

I believe that the K-50/K-500 have focus peaking, which can be
very helpful for live view and low light manual focusing. 
I've not used a Pentax that has had it. 

I don't know how shutter noise on the K50 and K500 compare with the K-5.


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> Thank you for filling in some of the gaps.  Of course the K-5 II is
> very attractive but it doubles the investment.  In spite of what my
> kids think, I do attempt to budget.  The K-5 (original) is climbing
> to the top of the heap.  Not that I am unhappy with my DS.  It has
> done a very nice job for a number of years and I have been happy
> with what I can get out of it.  So now  I am contemplating the world
> and how I relate to it.  We shall see. There is certainly a great
> amount of enthusiasm for the K-5.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John G.
> 
> On 8/27/2013 2:40 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
> >On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, John wrote:
> >>Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500
> >>models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is
> >>causing the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an
> >>upgrade from my DS.  What experience have people had with these
> >>cameras.  Are any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are,
> >>but at what cost?) What features am I giving up that I would miss
> >>beyond comprehension if I purchased a particular camera model.
> >>Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps grinding out pictures even though
> >>they are not full frame and ? pixel pictures.
> >The K-50/K-500 are just released with zero track record.  However, their
> >innards are similar enough to the K-5/K-30 that there's no reason to
> >avoid them.  I recommend against the K-30 because I found it
> >uncomfortable, a used K-5 is better.  Get the K-5 II/IIs if you do lots
> >of low-light photography (better AF).  The main drawback of the K-500 is
> >lack of weather-sealing, plus AFAICT you must get it with kit lens, so
> >that would probably be extra money for no purpose in your case.
> 
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Re: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

[Don Guthrie]

Thanks Charles I hoped you would have a look. I really enjoyed downtown 
there was so much to see & do. I loved walking from my hotel to Target 
field for a ball game. I don't know about dark although those buildings 
make the sun a little hard to find sometimes. And it did cloud up and 
rain one day.


I have another set of color photos which I will post soon that are more 
travel than street and a little cheerier.


No I am an Iowa boy bred & born. I do have family west of the city so I 
visit Mn quite often. Hope to be up there in Sept. Maybe sometime we can 
meet up & have a shoot around. There's at least 5 midwest PDMLers I can 
think of. We should have our own meetup sometime. Grandfather's hillock.


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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:17:19 -0500
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On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:32 , Don Guthrie  wrote:


>I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo walk in a group 
with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped me get over my fears of photographing 
strangers on the street. Some of these were taken with K-01 & some with my carry around 
travel "other" camera.
>
>Comments & Critique solicited.
>
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/
>

Interesting to see my city from someone else's perspective (do you live in 
Minneapolis?).  Seems really really contrasty and a bit dark (is Minneapolis 
really so gloomy?), but there are some nice shots.

I like the little boy by the mirrors over at The Guthrie..

  -Charles

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Re: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

[Don Guthrie]

Thanks Alan C. B&W is really a fun alternative sometimes. Once I started 
on street I did not want to quit. Many of these were shot at two Farmers 
Markets but others were taken in the heart of downtown. Try it you will 
like it I bet.


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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:18:23 +0200
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Some cool shots there. The B/W is magic. I love it. One of these days I'll
pluck up the courage to try some street stuff.

Alan

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From: Don Guthrie
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:32 PM
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo
walk in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped
me get over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of
these were taken with K-01 & some with my carry around travel "other"
camera.

Comments & Critique solicited.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/



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Re: Pictures

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:57 PM, John  wrote:
>
> Unfortunately most of my "old lenses" are screw mount (Is there an adapter 
> for screw mount?)

John, indeed there are M42 adapters. I recommend spending the extra
money on the Real Genuine Pentax one though: "Mount Adapter K". The
horror stories about the eBay imitations getting jammed into camera
bodies are legion. Mine set me back $30 in 2007.

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Re: PESO Portrait of Sophie [now with dewrinkled backdrop]

[Bruce Walker]

In this particular pose I was setting up a classic triangle, head at
the apex. I tried posing her head tilted toward both sides and this
one created the best lines -- to my eye anyway.

Interestingly, Clay Blackmore suggests avoiding the feminine pose with
young girls (Sophie is just 16). I figure he's steering us away from
over glamourizing them like those ultra creepy beauty contest images.

I did try adjusting her hands alternatively; haven't got to those
shots yet. I did "break" her wrists in this shot: both hands curve
gently down at the wrist.

Thank you, Darren!


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Nice example of butterfly lighting. Love the big catch-lights in her eyes.
>
> Nits to pick?
> Although there isn't really a "low" shoulder, this strikes me as a
> masculine head tilt. (At least I would say it is not a feminine one).
>
> Hands are difficult. Normally if you "break" the wrist the
> hands/fingers will assume a more "feminine" look. To achieve that, for
> naturalness sake, that would probably mean that her top hand would be
> on her bicep, not her forearm.
>
> Couple of links for "hands":
> http://www.joeedelman.com/blog/modeling/how-to-handle-hands/
> http://www.joeedelman.com/blog/modeling/how-to-handle-hands-part-2/1668/
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Hey, thanks Derby! Intimate is what I'm going for. I wasn't setup for
>> the full high-key Hurley look though; next time. I do love Hurley's
>> work.
>>
>> I agree with complaints about the fingers. The pose was dictating the
>> framing but I was set on tight, so I compromised. When I retry that I
>> will re-pose or re-frame rather than crop fingers. I have some other,
>> looser, shots I will work on but none with that expression I so liked.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>>>
>>> Just saw this. I like the current style of cropping the top of the head.
>>> Peter Hurley-esque. It makes the portrait intimate, I think. Not too sure
>>> about the crop on the fingers though
>>>
>>> Gorgeous lighting, nonetheless
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/08/2013 2:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Background wrinkles rankle, as do blue nails. Both gone! Have another look
 ...

 http://flic.kr/p/fy42fh

 A straight-forward "studio" portrait of my niece, Sophie. Shot on
 location in my sister's living room (she's a champ to put up with me
 rearranging the whole thing).

 I was also testing my latest money-saving invention: $10 IKEA
 background support system. Ingredients: One Hugad black curtain rod,
 210-385 cm; 2x Betydlig curtain rod brackets, top-slot filed out to
 fit 1/4" stud on top of light stand; use with two cheap 8' light
 stands.

 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm/f:5, 1/160th, ISO 100;
 Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture

 Paramount short lighting with reflector fill. AF540FGZ in Westcott
 Medium Apollo above-left, key; AF540FGZ in 30" umbrella softbox,
 boomed above behind-right, hair; 42" silver reflector, right.

 Comments welcome!

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Re: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

[Charles Robinson]

On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:32 , Don Guthrie  wrote:

> I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo walk 
> in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped me get 
> over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of these were 
> taken with K-01 & some with my carry around travel "other" camera.
> 
> Comments & Critique solicited.
> 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/
> 

Interesting to see my city from someone else's perspective (do you live in 
Minneapolis?).  Seems really really contrasty and a bit dark (is Minneapolis 
really so gloomy?), but there are some nice shots.

I like the little boy by the mirrors over at The Guthrie..

 -Charles

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Re: Pentax Models

[John]

Thank you for filling in some of the gaps.  Of course the K-5 II is very 
attractive but it doubles the investment.  In spite of what my kids 
think, I do attempt to budget.  The K-5 (original) is climbing to the 
top of the heap.  Not that I am unhappy with my DS.  It has done a very 
nice job for a number of years and I have been happy with what I can get 
out of it.  So now  I am contemplating the world and how I relate to 
it.  We shall see. There is certainly a great amount of enthusiasm for 
the K-5.


Cheers,

John G.

On 8/27/2013 2:40 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, John wrote:

Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500
models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is
causing the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an
upgrade from my DS.  What experience have people had with these
cameras.  Are any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are,
but at what cost?) What features am I giving up that I would miss
beyond comprehension if I purchased a particular camera model.
Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps grinding out pictures even though
they are not full frame and ? pixel pictures.

The K-50/K-500 are just released with zero track record.  However, their
innards are similar enough to the K-5/K-30 that there's no reason to
avoid them.  I recommend against the K-30 because I found it
uncomfortable, a used K-5 is better.  Get the K-5 II/IIs if you do lots
of low-light photography (better AF).  The main drawback of the K-500 is
lack of weather-sealing, plus AFAICT you must get it with kit lens, so
that would probably be extra money for no purpose in your case.



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Re: PESO Portrait of Sophie [now with dewrinkled backdrop]

[Darren Addy]

Nice example of butterfly lighting. Love the big catch-lights in her eyes.

Nits to pick?
Although there isn't really a "low" shoulder, this strikes me as a
masculine head tilt. (At least I would say it is not a feminine one).

Hands are difficult. Normally if you "break" the wrist the
hands/fingers will assume a more "feminine" look. To achieve that, for
naturalness sake, that would probably mean that her top hand would be
on her bicep, not her forearm.

Couple of links for "hands":
http://www.joeedelman.com/blog/modeling/how-to-handle-hands/
http://www.joeedelman.com/blog/modeling/how-to-handle-hands-part-2/1668/

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Hey, thanks Derby! Intimate is what I'm going for. I wasn't setup for
> the full high-key Hurley look though; next time. I do love Hurley's
> work.
>
> I agree with complaints about the fingers. The pose was dictating the
> framing but I was set on tight, so I compromised. When I retry that I
> will re-pose or re-frame rather than crop fingers. I have some other,
> looser, shots I will work on but none with that expression I so liked.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>>
>> Just saw this. I like the current style of cropping the top of the head.
>> Peter Hurley-esque. It makes the portrait intimate, I think. Not too sure
>> about the crop on the fingers though
>>
>> Gorgeous lighting, nonetheless
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21/08/2013 2:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Background wrinkles rankle, as do blue nails. Both gone! Have another look
>>> ...
>>>
>>> http://flic.kr/p/fy42fh
>>>
>>> A straight-forward "studio" portrait of my niece, Sophie. Shot on
>>> location in my sister's living room (she's a champ to put up with me
>>> rearranging the whole thing).
>>>
>>> I was also testing my latest money-saving invention: $10 IKEA
>>> background support system. Ingredients: One Hugad black curtain rod,
>>> 210-385 cm; 2x Betydlig curtain rod brackets, top-slot filed out to
>>> fit 1/4" stud on top of light stand; use with two cheap 8' light
>>> stands.
>>>
>>> K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm/f:5, 1/160th, ISO 100;
>>> Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture
>>>
>>> Paramount short lighting with reflector fill. AF540FGZ in Westcott
>>> Medium Apollo above-left, key; AF540FGZ in 30" umbrella softbox,
>>> boomed above behind-right, hair; 42" silver reflector, right.
>>>
>>> Comments welcome!
>>>
>>
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Re: Pictures

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 8/27/2013 14:57, John wrote:

Ann,

So I am not the only one who mixes it up with the kitties.  I am so
jealous of your rooftop and I loved the umbrellas.  They were playing
just for you I am sure.  That is the umbrellascats will play just
because!

You are making it hard to say no...There are several k-5's out there.  I
am going to think for a bit.  Your use of the older lenses is
encouraging.  Unfortunately most of my "old lenses" are screw mount (Is
there an adapter for screw mount?) or my dad's Leica glass which is
really nice and really worth the effort to reload 35 mm cans with B&W
and then scan the negatives.   Yes, I am 70 and thought my Retina (still
works) was neat.  That is an  even longer discussion.

Cheers and I hope I have not slowed down your work too badly

John G.


Not too um "gravely" :-)
Happy shopping


why did I come here to look - oy - back to grindstone

ann

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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Bruce Walker]

Secret retouching technique! :-)

1. marquee from the top of the image down to just above the car's hood
and trunk (ie including as much corn as possible, but excluding as
much car as possible).
2. switch to lasso: hold Option and lasso around the roof of the car.
This will exclude the roof from the selection.
3. Cmd-J to clone selection (corn and background) to new layer; name it "warp"
4. Cmd-T to show grab handles.
5. right-click for menu: choose Distort.
6. tug upward on upper-right handle until corn is level (I turned on
View Grid to help).

There's now a horizontal mismatch between the corn stalks on both layers ...

7. add a layer mask to "warp".
8. select a large soft Brush, 100% opacity and flow; choose Black colour.
9. reduce the opacity of the original car layer so the warp layer's
edge stands out
10. making sure mask is selected, paint along the bottom edge of the warp
 layer. The brush center should just follow the line. This will
create a smooth
 gradient that will blend the two layers right at the interface point.

Ta-da! Merge layers and or save-to-web, etc.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>
> On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left
>> downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn
>> stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is.
>>
>> BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool
>> in a minute or two. Here's my try ...
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/17510003-lg-str8.jpg
>
> Nice, but how did you avoid stretching the car as well? I've used free 
> transform quite a bit, but it distorts  the entire image area.
>
> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>>> I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
>>> profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
>>> shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited 
>>> access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is 
>>> my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the 
>>> horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going downhill and the 
>>> cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it 
>>> actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that manner:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
>>>
>>> Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
>>> magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
>>> making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
>>>
>>>
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Pictures

[John]

Ann,

So I am not the only one who mixes it up with the kitties.  I am so 
jealous of your rooftop and I loved the umbrellas.  They were playing 
just for you I am sure.  That is the umbrellascats will play just 
because!


You are making it hard to say no...There are several k-5's out there.  I 
am going to think for a bit.  Your use of the older lenses is 
encouraging.  Unfortunately most of my "old lenses" are screw mount (Is 
there an adapter for screw mount?) or my dad's Leica glass which is 
really nice and really worth the effort to reload 35 mm cans with B&W 
and then scan the negatives.   Yes, I am 70 and thought my Retina (still 
works) was neat.  That is an  even longer discussion.


Cheers and I hope I have not slowed down your work too badly

John G.

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Re: PESO Portrait of Sophie [now with dewrinkled backdrop]

[Bruce Walker]

Hey, thanks Derby! Intimate is what I'm going for. I wasn't setup for
the full high-key Hurley look though; next time. I do love Hurley's
work.

I agree with complaints about the fingers. The pose was dictating the
framing but I was set on tight, so I compromised. When I retry that I
will re-pose or re-frame rather than crop fingers. I have some other,
looser, shots I will work on but none with that expression I so liked.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> Just saw this. I like the current style of cropping the top of the head.
> Peter Hurley-esque. It makes the portrait intimate, I think. Not too sure
> about the crop on the fingers though
>
> Gorgeous lighting, nonetheless
>
>
>
>
> On 21/08/2013 2:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Background wrinkles rankle, as do blue nails. Both gone! Have another look
>> ...
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/fy42fh
>>
>> A straight-forward "studio" portrait of my niece, Sophie. Shot on
>> location in my sister's living room (she's a champ to put up with me
>> rearranging the whole thing).
>>
>> I was also testing my latest money-saving invention: $10 IKEA
>> background support system. Ingredients: One Hugad black curtain rod,
>> 210-385 cm; 2x Betydlig curtain rod brackets, top-slot filed out to
>> fit 1/4" stud on top of light stand; use with two cheap 8' light
>> stands.
>>
>> K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 90mm/f:5, 1/160th, ISO 100;
>> Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture
>>
>> Paramount short lighting with reflector fill. AF540FGZ in Westcott
>> Medium Apollo above-left, key; AF540FGZ in 30" umbrella softbox,
>> boomed above behind-right, hair; 42" silver reflector, right.
>>
>> Comments welcome!
>>
>
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Re: Pentax Models

[Aahz Maruch]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, John wrote:
>
> Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500
> models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is
> causing the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an
> upgrade from my DS.  What experience have people had with these
> cameras.  Are any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are,
> but at what cost?) What features am I giving up that I would miss
> beyond comprehension if I purchased a particular camera model.
> Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps grinding out pictures even though
> they are not full frame and ? pixel pictures.

The K-50/K-500 are just released with zero track record.  However, their
innards are similar enough to the K-5/K-30 that there's no reason to
avoid them.  I recommend against the K-30 because I found it
uncomfortable, a used K-5 is better.  Get the K-5 II/IIs if you do lots
of low-light photography (better AF).  The main drawback of the K-500 is
lack of weather-sealing, plus AFAICT you must get it with kit lens, so
that would probably be extra money for no purpose in your case.
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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Paul Stenquist]

I have to go through 600 Mopar Nats photos, so I understand your pain. So far, 
I've rendered thee of the fourteen cars I shot.
Paul
On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff...
> 
> But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember (that's 
> not a real question) last month when I said if I had to go through 400 
> wedding photos I'd shoot myself? -- alas, looks like I'm doing that...
> 
> Terrible lighting coniditions - TOO MUCH light! ugh...
> But I'm richer by a K-5 and that makes it worth while
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 8/27/2013 11:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn would 
>> be nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without 
>> manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus 
>> doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their 
>> way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The 
>> car owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't 
>> charge enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.
>> 
>> .
>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>>> I shouldn't even be here but --
>>> my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't enough 
>>> - or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
>>> don't mind the corn slant.
>>> 
>>> ok back underground
>>> a
>>> 
>>> On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:
 Quoting Paul Stenquist :
 
> I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
> profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
> shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
> access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
> it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
> share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
> downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
> descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
> manner:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
> 
> Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?
 
 
 Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
 it out.
 
 The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
 lot.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
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 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 
 
> Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be
> stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners,
> it's a consideration.
> 
> 
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Re: A Rendering Choice

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On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left
> downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn
> stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is.
> 
> BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool
> in a minute or two. Here's my try ...
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/17510003-lg-str8.jpg

Nice, but how did you avoid stretching the car as well? I've used free 
transform quite a bit, but it distorts  the entire image area.

Paul
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
>> profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
>> shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
>> to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
>> choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
>> either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
>> or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
>> Here's a shot rendered in that manner:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
>> 
>> Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
>> magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
>> making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
>> 
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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Bruce Walker]

Ann! Please! Put the gun down and back away from the keyboard.

;-)


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff...
>
> But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember
> (that's not a real question) last month when I said if I had to go through
> 400 wedding photos I'd shoot myself? -- alas, looks like I'm doing that...
>
> Terrible lighting coniditions - TOO MUCH light! ugh...
> But I'm richer by a K-5 and that makes it worth while
>
> ann
>
>
>
> On 8/27/2013 11:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn
>> would be nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without
>> manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus
>> doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their
>> way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The
>> car owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't
>> charge enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.
>>
>> .
>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>>> I shouldn't even be here but --
>>> my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't
>>> enough - or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
>>> don't mind the corn slant.
>>>
>>> ok back underground
>>> a
>>>
>>> On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:

 Quoting Paul Stenquist :

> I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
> profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
> shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
> access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
> it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
> share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
> downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
> descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
> manner:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
>
> Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?



 Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
 it out.

 The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
 lot.



 Cheers

 Brian

 ++
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> Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be
> stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners,
> it's a consideration.
>
>
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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Ann Sanfedele]

ah yeah I see what you mean about your stuff...

But when I say I _shouldn't_ be here it's because of WORK! - remember 
(that's not a real question) last month when I said if I had to go 
through 400 wedding photos I'd shoot myself? -- alas, looks like I'm 
doing that...


Terrible lighting coniditions - TOO MUCH light! ugh...
But I'm richer by a K-5 and that makes it worth while

ann


On 8/27/2013 11:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn would be 
nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without 
manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus 
doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their 
way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The car 
owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't charge 
enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.

.
On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


I shouldn't even be here but --
my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't enough - 
or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
don't mind the corn slant.

ok back underground
a

On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Paul Stenquist :


I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
manner:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?



Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
it out.

The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
lot.



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be
stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners,
it's a consideration.








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Re: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

[Alan C]

Some cool shots there. The B/W is magic. I love it. One of these days I'll 
pluck up the courage to try some street stuff.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Don Guthrie

Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:32 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo
walk in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped
me get over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of
these were taken with K-01 & some with my carry around travel "other"
camera.

Comments & Critique solicited.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGaXArL

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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Alan C]

Jislaaik man, give the mealies a break. They're only doing their thing - 
what do they know about horizontals? Great shot, great car. I wouldn't 
change a thing.


Alan

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From: Paul Stenquist

Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:06 PM
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Subject: A Rendering Choice

I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
Here's a shot rendered in that manner:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.




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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Bruce Walker]

Seems to me that the car has a very slight slope of its own. That left
downward slant kinda balances out the left upward slant of the corn
stalks ... and so it looks just fine to me, as-is.

BTW, you can stretch the corn row level using the free transform tool
in a minute or two. Here's my try ...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/17510003-lg-str8.jpg


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some 
> profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few 
> shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited access 
> to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to it is my best 
> choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't share the horizontal. I 
> either render profiles with the road going downhill and the cornfield level 
> or the rod level and the cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). 
> Here's a shot rendered in that manner:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
>
> Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
> magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
> making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.
>
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Re: Pentax Models

[Ann Sanfedele]

John -
I've been raving about the K-5 for a month - where ya been?
also - if you go to the archives, I asked about "wrinkles" or things
to watch out for and got a slew of good info  - unfortunately
across several subject lines..

Here is my K-5 Geso  - about half of the photos taken with the 28mm 
Pentax manual lens , the others with the Da18-55 kit lens I had on my istd


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s

My K-5 was $589 from KEH including expedited shipping.

Now I really do have to get backto wedding photos ugh

ann




On 8/27/2013 13:29, John wrote:

Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500
models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is causing
the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an upgrade
from my DS.  What experience have people had with these cameras.  Are
any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are, but at what cost?)
What features am I giving up that I would miss beyond comprehension if I
purchased a particular camera model. Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps
grinding out pictures even though they are not full frame and ?
pixel pictures.

Seriously, are there any reviews of these models  that you really
trust.or distrust?

Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts and advice.  And I thought
purchasing the DS was a hard decision.  I do have a couple of film
cameras if anyone is interested.  Respooling B&W film is not all that bad!

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Re: PESO Patriot

[Christine Nielsen]

You could submit that one to Frank's Canadians in Hats blog...!

:)
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On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518

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Re: Pentax Models

[Darren Addy]

K-5 was the flagship model (and as you suspect was replaced by the K-5
II and K-5 IIs). Those newer models don't add a lot (somewhat better
low-light AF capabilities, seems to be the concensus) but otherwise
the same sensor, etc. as was in the original K-5. The original K-5 is
probably about as loved a camera model as there can be. You can't go
wrong with it. The K-50 replaced the K-30 as the middle tier product
(12-bit system, rather than the flagship's 14-bit), and the new K-500
is Pentax getting back to an "entry level" model (although many people
say it offers great bang-for-the-buck, having NEARLY all of the
features of the K-50).

My recommendation would be to go for the original K-5, if you can
still find one new. It is just a wonderful camera and has a great feel
and the most weather sealing too.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:29 PM, John  wrote:
> Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500 models.
> Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is causing the price
> drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an upgrade from my DS.  What
> experience have people had with these cameras.  Are any or all upgrades from
> my DS?  (Of course they are, but at what cost?) What features am I giving up
> that I would miss beyond comprehension if I purchased a particular camera
> model. Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps grinding out pictures even though they
> are not full frame and ? pixel pictures.
>
> Seriously, are there any reviews of these models  that you really
> trust.or distrust?
>
> Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts and advice.  And I thought purchasing
> the DS was a hard decision.  I do have a couple of film cameras if anyone is
> interested.  Respooling B&W film is not all that bad!
>
> John G.
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Re: PESO Patriot

[Bob W]

On 27 Aug 2013, at 16:55, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> What?  He snuck across the river last night?  Or he doesn't want to be
> mistaken for a Yank?
> Or maybe he doesn't want any responsibility for the mess we've made of
> things here?
> Or maybe he's one of us trying to pass for a Canadian?

It's because everyone thinks he's Anthony Quinn and tries to do the Zorba dance 
with him.

B

> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Paul Stenquist
>  wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518
>> 
>> 

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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

[Bob W]

On 27 Aug 2013, at 10:02, David Mann  wrote:

> On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> 
>> The first Tour de France took place in 1903. Geared bicycles weren't allowed 
>> until 1937 - the organisers thought they were for girly-boys. And they 
>> clearly do, since a mere three years after their introduction came the 
>> debacle of 1940.
> 
> 
> And in case you disagree, here's an infamous photo from the 2012 Olympics.  
> Girly-boy road sprinter on the left, hard-man track sprinter on the right.
> 
> http://pic.twitter.com/91Y7S7ps
> (might not be entirely work-safe depending on your workplace)
> 

Jesus Christ! I think I'll take the bus next time I want to go somewhere.

B
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Re: A Rendering Choice

[John Francis]

> 
> Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much for the 
> magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used large, but when 
> making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.

I rather doubt most of the car owners would even be able to tell you what is in 
the background.

I'd possibly consider losing the dead tree (as others have noted); apart from 
that, it's fine.

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Pentax Models

[John]

Oh my, I am now really confused.   There are k-5, k-50, and k-500 
models.  Plus there is now a K-5 II.  The II is probably what is causing 
the price drops I have seen on the K-5.  All appear to be an upgrade 
from my DS.  What experience have people had with these cameras.  Are 
any or all upgrades from my DS?  (Of course they are, but at what cost?) 
What features am I giving up that I would miss beyond comprehension if I 
purchased a particular camera model. Meanwhile, my beloved DS keeps 
grinding out pictures even though they are not full frame and ? 
pixel pictures.


Seriously, are there any reviews of these models  that you really 
trust.or distrust?


Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts and advice.  And I thought 
purchasing the DS was a hard decision.  I do have a couple of film 
cameras if anyone is interested.  Respooling B&W film is not all that bad!


John G.

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[Matthew Hunt]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:

>> I suspect your credit card issuer would have a different opinion.
>
> I'll check that out. I suspect unlikely that it will get the issue resolved 
> satisfactorily, i.e., in time for the trip.

I would expect the credit card company to refund your money
(performing a chargeback against OpTech). Getting the merchandise
another way will be your problem--can you get what you need from B&H
or a local shop in time?

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[Eric Weir]

On Aug 27, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:

> I suspect your credit card issuer would have a different opinion.

I'll check that out. I suspect unlikely that it will get the issue resolved 
satisfactorily, i.e., in time for the trip.

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Re: PESO Patriot

[Steve Cottrell]

On 27/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518

Meanwhile in Canada ;-)

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[Eric Weir]

On Aug 27, 2013, at 12:33 PM, John  wrote:

> 
> I'm not so sure if the USPS provides that kind of tracking unless the
> shipper pays an extra fee for it. Most won't unless they have an option
> on their order page that allows you to pay extra to get it.

It appears unwisely, I elected standard USPS shipping, i.e., w/o tracking. If I 
had known that if there were a delay in delivery this is how they would handle 
it, I would have elected another method. 

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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[Matthew Hunt]

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:

> When I initiated the call this morning the response was, "We are not 
> responsible for the fact that the package was not delivered."

I suspect your credit card issuer would have a different opinion.

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Re: PESO Patriot

[Don Guthrie]

I did not think a Canadian needed a t-shirt to be so identified. Would 
you not know them just by their polite manner? I mean you can always 
tell a Canadian ... even if you can't tell them much. Love the photo by 
the way.



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Re: OT DigiPod (possibly on-topic)

[Darren Addy]

See also: Scammers Attempt to Rip Off Successful Campaigns Using Indiegogo

http://makezine.com/2013/08/02/crowdfunding-confusion/

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> With a strong sense of déjà vu I pass along news of a guy who is
> creating a cartridge for 35mm film camera bodies that outfits them
> with a digital sensor and USB memory ...
>
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/digipod
>
> I know there are folks here who have been waiting on this for a decade
> and will be all over it like magnets on a fridge.
>
> Bad news: it ain't FF. But as he improves it he'll be upping the sensor size.
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Re: An OP-Tech experience

[John]

If they shipped FEDEX or UPS, they should be able to give you a tracking
number so you find out where it is for yourself.

I'm not so sure if the USPS provides that kind of tracking unless the
shipper pays an extra fee for it. Most won't unless they have an option
on their order page that allows you to pay extra to get it.


On 8/27/2013 12:10 PM, Eric Weir wrote:


I placed two orders with OP-Tech on August 13 for stuff I wanted to
take on the trip to England---a couple straps, a couple lens and
filter pouches, and a camera body wrap. They were shipped the same
day to my daughter's place in Pittsburgh, where I was going to be
visiting during the time they were likely to be delivered.

The first package arrived August 19. The other has still not arrived.
I've called OP-Tech three times. I explained that I ordered the stuff
to take on the trip. The initial response was, "Be patient." The
second time I was to get a call back from the guy who handles online
orders. I never got a call back. When I initiated the call this
morning the response was, "We are not responsible for the fact that
the package was not delivered."

I like their products. Their customer service stinks.



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The Mean Streets of Minneapolis MN

[Don Guthrie]

I don't believe I posted these here before. I took a 2 day seminar/photo 
walk in a group with Valerie Jardin. It was very instructive and helped 
me get over my fears of photographing strangers on the street. Some of 
these were taken with K-01 & some with my carry around travel "other" 
camera.


Comments & Critique solicited.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157634199031366/

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGaXArL

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An OP-Tech experience

[Eric Weir]

I placed two orders with OP-Tech on August 13 for stuff I wanted to take on the 
trip to England---a couple straps, a couple lens and filter pouches, and a 
camera body wrap. They were shipped the same day to my daughter's place in 
Pittsburgh, where I was going to be visiting during the time they were likely 
to be delivered. 

The first package arrived August 19. The other has still not arrived. I've 
called OP-Tech three times. I explained that I ordered the stuff to take on the 
trip. The initial response was, "Be patient." The second time I was to get a 
call back from the guy who handles online orders. I never got a call back. When 
I initiated the call this morning the response was, "We are not responsible for 
the fact that the package was not delivered."

I like their products. Their customer service stinks.

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Re: A Rendering Choice

[John]

On 8/27/2013 7:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a
few shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and
limited access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot
next to it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield
don't share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road
going downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the
cornifield descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot
rendered in that manner:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg

Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting? Doesn't mayer much
for the magazine because it will probably be stripped our if used
large, but when making prints for car owners, it's a consideration.





The car is the focus. That's what I'd make level. The background being
slightly out of focus seems to negate any problems from it being
slightly off level.

OTOH, with a little Photoshop magic you could probably get them both
level if it really bothers you.

I think it looks fine as it is.

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Re: PESO Patriot

[Bob Sullivan]

What?  He snuck across the river last night?  Or he doesn't want to be
mistaken for a Yank?
Or maybe he doesn't want any responsibility for the mess we've made of
things here?
Or maybe he's one of us trying to pass for a Canadian?
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: A Rendering Choice

[Paul Stenquist]

Of course you should be here, Ann! I agree that more blur in the corn would be 
nice, but it's shot wide open, so that's as good as it gets without 
manipulation. And I usually don't like artificial blur in backgrounds, plus 
doing it right is a lot of work.. The magazine art directors will have their 
way with it anyway, probably strip it out or do something horrid to it. The car 
owners who buy prints are happy if their car is sharp, and I don't charge 
enough to warrant lots of post manipulation.

. 
On Aug 27, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> I shouldn't even be here but --
> my two cents is that the degree of blurriness of the cornfield isn't enough - 
> or should be totally sharp. I agree about the tree.
> don't mind the corn slant.
> 
> ok back underground
> a
> 
> On 8/27/2013 08:02, Brian Walters wrote:
>> Quoting Paul Stenquist :
>> 
>>> I'm a bit torn here. Among my shots from the Mopar Nationals are some
>>> profiles sot on a road next to a cornfield. I'm locked into just a few
>>> shooting sites at this event due to the size of the crowd and limited
>>> access to other venues, so this cornfield and the parking lot next to
>>> it is my best choice. Unfortunately, the road and cornfield don't
>>> share the horizontal. I either render profiles with the road going
>>> downhill and the cornfield level or the rod level and the cornifield
>>> descending (the way  it actually is). Here's a shot rendered in that
>>> manner:
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510003&size=lg
>>> 
>>> Do you find the horizontal mismatch distracting?
>> 
>> 
>> Not especially.  I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed
>> it out.
>> 
>> The dead tree in the background is more distracting to my eye but not a
>> lot.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>> 
>> 
>>> Doesn't mayer much for the magazine because it will probably be
>>> stripped our if used large, but when making prints for car owners,
>>> it's a consideration.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: OT DigiPod (possibly on-topic)

[John]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

On 8/26/2013 10:46 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Silicon film, big topic of discussion on the PDML, and elsewhere about
10 years ago, (pre *ist-D). Prototypes were actually developed
eventually, for Canon and Nikon analog cameras.  You can read about it
here.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/tag/silicon-film

On 8/26/2013 3:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

With a strong sense of déjà vu I pass along news of a guy who is
creating a cartridge for 35mm film camera bodies that outfits them
with a digital sensor and USB memory ...

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/digipod

I know there are folks here who have been waiting on this for a decade
and will be all over it like magnets on a fridge.

Bad news: it ain't FF. But as he improves it he'll be upping the
sensor size.






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PESO Patriot

[Paul Stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17510518

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Re: PESO IR Lift

[Larry Colen]

Boris and Paul,

Thanks for the feedback.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 01:18:53PM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Larry, without any disrespect, I don't see any merit that IR brings to

Non taken Boris.
 
> the table here except, naturally, the fact that you trained yourself
> to shoot in this kind of conditions. These are nice photographs (in
> terms of moments caught or phase of motion depicted) but IR does not
> seem to belong here at all.
> 
> Again, I hope you're not offended by me saying this.

Nop,I'm not offended.  As I said, I'm still experimenting with the setup, 
learning what it will and will not do.
The cheif advantage of the setup is that it allows me to use a flash
in situations where it would otherwise not be possible.  Using flash
is severely frowned on at these dances. 

The artistic question is whether not blowing out the colored light in
the background, and being able to get a relatively sharp photo with
frozen action is worth the monotchrom zombie like look of people
photographed with the IR strobe.

I expect that once I have a good understanding of IR, it will become 
a tool at my disposal, and certainly not my primary means of shooting.

Most of my photos at this venue haven't even made it on to flickr.
Here is a quick search for 418 project in my photos, with a lot of
duplicates as people asked for proof shots, or I tried alternative
processing:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99496143@N00&q=418%20project

> 
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > At the risk of boring folks here is some more shots with the IR rig.
> > The monday dance in Santa Cruz is lit with LED
> > spots, which have no IR, so they'd be nicely saturated even if I shot with 
> > the
> > IR flash.  I did ask Ben to change the spots from magenta to green, so that
> > I'd get better color contrast with the IR flash.
> >
> >
> > At the end of the evening, I was playing with the fisheye, and
> > think this one is rather fun:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9603407409/
> >
> > Full set at:
> > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635248776945/
> >
> > Comments and observations welcome.
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Re: Another Blurb book...

[Mark Roberts]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 27/8/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Contact me first. I expect to be revising the book after using it for
>>actual teaching for one semester. Always takes a little while to work
>>the bugs out.
>
>Yeah, like the running ink on the title page ;-)

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Re: PESO - Preaching to the Converted

[John]

Is there any way to turn it off? If I had that and it kept trying to say
things I didn't mean, I'd see if I couldn't make it go away.

On 8/26/2013 7:31 PM, knarf wrote:

Thanks, Godfrey!

Btw the race I referred to is an alleycat. Damned predictive spelling.

;-)

Cheers,
frank

Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

Really cool, frank! That would make great big print!

Godfrey

On Aug 26, 2013, at 4:08 PM, knarf  wrote:


Spoke cards in the spokes of a messengers old beater work bike. It's

a road bike converted to a single speed city bike:


http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/08/conversion.html?m=1

The cards indicate involvement in various events, usually alleyways

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