Re: Peso an unseen view

[David Mann]

That's cool.  We've had quite a few things like that appear after all the 
demolitions in town.  Mostly old signs.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Apr 29, 2015, at 4:56 am, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> Last year a building burned down here. Now after the demolition this is a 
> view, which was unseen for 100 years, of the building next door .
> C&C .
> 
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> https://flic.kr/p/s5uMvk
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Re: Ok now I'm really torn.

[Darren Addy]

Ah, well if you've already got 20mm covered then you are looking
wider. I'd say the Samyang/Bower is a no-brainer. My son-in-law (the
Canon shooter) did some tests and showed that it out-performed the
Canon 14mm L. (More than one photog has come to that conclusion, if
you Google it). I agree with you on the manual focus + DOF  of the
Samyang.

PS.. Adorama has all flavors of that lens for $249 right now:
http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20654599.html

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> I've thought about that too, but I've kind of got 20mm covered with the FA
> 20-35mm it really is a very nice lens and though it's a bit bulkier than a
> good prime, it's very light.  It's also very sharp, and exhibits very little
> distortion.  On APS-C it's not very wide, really, which is the appeal of the
> Samyang,  which at least gets me close to Ultra wide territory, also the
> Samyang is designed for FF, so if ever win the lottery, and Ricoh actually
> releases the FF Pentax K mount I'll be ready.
>
> Oh, yea, it's not autofocus, but that's the least of my worries. At
> Hyperfocal distance a 14mm lens has a range of acceptable focus from about
> 14 feet to infinity.  With those numbers manual focus is like horse shoes.
>
>
> On 4/28/2015 11:26 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> You might also consider the Pentax 21mm f3.2 Limited. The SMC version
>> (used) can be had for nearly the same price as the Bower.
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=&lens=80
>> http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpda21mmf32al/
>>
>> Obviously not as wide as the 14mm Samyang. But a much smaller package
>> (119 gr vs 558 gr) and autofocus. Price favors Samyang if comparing
>> new to new.
>>
>> I'm very happy with my Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 for the ultrawide side
>> of things, but recently I find myself drawn to that little 21mm Pentax
>> Limited.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 PM, P.J. Alling 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So for quite some time now I've been debating the merits of buying an
>>> extra-ultra wide angle lens. Since going digital the only really wide
>>> lens
>>> I've been using is my old K 17mm f4.0 fisheye, which is kinda like a
>>> having
>>> a 24mm lens on a 35mm film body but with just incredible barrel
>>> distortion,
>>> but not fish eye.
>>>
>>> I've been debating getting the 15mm f4 the 14mm f2.8 one of the Zooms
>>> either
>>> the Pentax 12-24 or one of the Sigma Zooms.  The Samyang 10mm is really
>>> very
>>> tempting, but I'm not sure that I'd use it enough to justify it's rather
>>> steep price, especially as it's quite bulky and I've been trying very
>>> hard
>>> to keep the lenses in my kit as small as possible.
>>>
>>> It hasn't helped that I've spent the last few years pretty broke.
>>>
>>> Well now B&H photo has the Samyang 14mm f2.8 in Bower livery for only
>>> about
>>> $260.  Pretty much every review I've read about it says it's an awesome
>>> lens
>>> for the price, and at this price I almost have to get one.
>>>
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Re: Ok now I'm really torn.

[P.J. Alling]

I've thought about that too, but I've kind of got 20mm covered with the 
FA 20-35mm it really is a very nice lens and though it's a bit bulkier 
than a good prime, it's very light.  It's also very sharp, and exhibits 
very little distortion.  On APS-C it's not very wide, really, which is 
the appeal of the Samyang,  which at least gets me close to Ultra wide 
territory, also the Samyang is designed for FF, so if ever win the 
lottery, and Ricoh actually releases the FF Pentax K mount I'll be ready.


Oh, yea, it's not autofocus, but that's the least of my worries. At 
Hyperfocal distance a 14mm lens has a range of acceptable focus from 
about 14 feet to infinity.  With those numbers manual focus is like 
horse shoes.


On 4/28/2015 11:26 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

You might also consider the Pentax 21mm f3.2 Limited. The SMC version
(used) can be had for nearly the same price as the Bower.
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=&lens=80
http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpda21mmf32al/

Obviously not as wide as the 14mm Samyang. But a much smaller package
(119 gr vs 558 gr) and autofocus. Price favors Samyang if comparing
new to new.

I'm very happy with my Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 for the ultrawide side
of things, but recently I find myself drawn to that little 21mm Pentax
Limited.


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

So for quite some time now I've been debating the merits of buying an
extra-ultra wide angle lens. Since going digital the only really wide lens
I've been using is my old K 17mm f4.0 fisheye, which is kinda like a having
a 24mm lens on a 35mm film body but with just incredible barrel distortion,
but not fish eye.

I've been debating getting the 15mm f4 the 14mm f2.8 one of the Zooms either
the Pentax 12-24 or one of the Sigma Zooms.  The Samyang 10mm is really very
tempting, but I'm not sure that I'd use it enough to justify it's rather
steep price, especially as it's quite bulky and I've been trying very hard
to keep the lenses in my kit as small as possible.

It hasn't helped that I've spent the last few years pretty broke.

Well now B&H photo has the Samyang 14mm f2.8 in Bower livery for only about
$260.  Pretty much every review I've read about it says it's an awesome lens
for the price, and at this price I almost have to get one.

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Re: Ok now I'm really torn.

[Darren Addy]

You might also consider the Pentax 21mm f3.2 Limited. The SMC version
(used) can be had for nearly the same price as the Bower.
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=&lens=80
http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/pentax/smcpda21mmf32al/

Obviously not as wide as the 14mm Samyang. But a much smaller package
(119 gr vs 558 gr) and autofocus. Price favors Samyang if comparing
new to new.

I'm very happy with my Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 for the ultrawide side
of things, but recently I find myself drawn to that little 21mm Pentax
Limited.


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> So for quite some time now I've been debating the merits of buying an
> extra-ultra wide angle lens. Since going digital the only really wide lens
> I've been using is my old K 17mm f4.0 fisheye, which is kinda like a having
> a 24mm lens on a 35mm film body but with just incredible barrel distortion,
> but not fish eye.
>
> I've been debating getting the 15mm f4 the 14mm f2.8 one of the Zooms either
> the Pentax 12-24 or one of the Sigma Zooms.  The Samyang 10mm is really very
> tempting, but I'm not sure that I'd use it enough to justify it's rather
> steep price, especially as it's quite bulky and I've been trying very hard
> to keep the lenses in my kit as small as possible.
>
> It hasn't helped that I've spent the last few years pretty broke.
>
> Well now B&H photo has the Samyang 14mm f2.8 in Bower livery for only about
> $260.  Pretty much every review I've read about it says it's an awesome lens
> for the price, and at this price I almost have to get one.
>
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Ok now I'm really torn.

[P.J. Alling]

So for quite some time now I've been debating the merits of buying an 
extra-ultra wide angle lens. Since going digital the only really wide 
lens I've been using is my old K 17mm f4.0 fisheye, which is kinda like 
a having a 24mm lens on a 35mm film body but with just incredible barrel 
distortion, but not fish eye.


I've been debating getting the 15mm f4 the 14mm f2.8 one of the Zooms 
either the Pentax 12-24 or one of the Sigma Zooms.  The Samyang 10mm is 
really very tempting, but I'm not sure that I'd use it enough to justify 
it's rather steep price, especially as it's quite bulky and I've been 
trying very hard to keep the lenses in my kit as small as possible.


It hasn't helped that I've spent the last few years pretty broke.

Well now B&H photo has the Samyang 14mm f2.8 in Bower livery for only 
about $260.  Pretty much every review I've read about it says it's an 
awesome lens for the price, and at this price I almost have to get one.


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Re: GESO - Prairie Trillium, Fiddlehead Fern and Squirrel Corn

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nicely done.  I especially like to detail on the fiddlehead.

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> A few more spring wildflowers -
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/prairie-trillium-fiddlehead-ferns-and
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> The prairie trillium is from this morning, the fiddlehead and squirrel corn
> from yesterday.
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Re: GESO - Prairie Trillium, Fiddlehead Fern and Squirrel Corn

[Ann Sanfedele]

Nice stuff - The squirrel corn reminds me of dutchman's britches
The fiddlehead reminds me I"m hungry

ann



On 4/28/2015 21:41, Mark C wrote:

A few more spring wildflowers -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/prairie-trillium-fiddlehead-ferns-and


The prairie trillium is from this morning, the fiddlehead and squirrel
corn from yesterday.

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Re: PESO - rooms with a view

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 4/28/2015 21:30, Mark C wrote:

Well, now the landlord can try to charge extra for the view...

The thing that caught my eye - the two "one way" signs coupled with the
"wrong way" sign Confusing!

Mark


Actually the wrong way is for the bicycles and the one way streets are 
at right angles - note the 7th and 2nd street signs, too.. it's our mini 
ground zero.  The wrong way sign for me is a comment on the sad 
situation - but , in fact, the bike path , like Second avenue, is 
suppose to be a one way path in the same direction - it is often 
disregarded and that is particularly hazardous on these crowded city 
streets...


ann



On 4/28/2015 5:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

after the fire in the East Village in NY at 7th St and 2nd, The people
in one of the adjoining buildings now have window with a view of the
street instead of a breezeway and other's windows.  I took this 21
days after the event.  The apartments are supposed to be inhabitable,
according to authorities, but the people that live there are not
moving back in (yet)  Those apartments are still filled with foul
aromas and
people going back to retrieve things they need while staying with
friends are getting sick just for being in their apartments for less
than an hour... it's really awful - as they landlord is expecting them
to pay rent.

(that's my paraphrasing of an article in a local paper, but I can tell
you that the places across the street whose doors were shut for
several days after the fire still smelled of smoke once they opened
again for several more days.)

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-Z4xLCbH/L


and this was the day after the fire - the building in the other PESO is
The one on the right behind that tree.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-4ntpJWf/L


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Re: OT - Toronto in June

[John Celio]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:
> On 27/4/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Who  says i have a bed.
>
> Dave hangs out more in his garage.

I'm kinda regretting starting this thread...

John

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GESO - Prairie Trillium, Fiddlehead Fern and Squirrel Corn

[Mark C]

A few more spring wildflowers -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/prairie-trillium-fiddlehead-ferns-and

The prairie trillium is from this morning, the fiddlehead and squirrel 
corn from yesterday.


Mark

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Yes I haven't been active

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It has been rather interesting few months. Back in the early part of 
December I located a 9 to 5 that so far kinda some what almost covers 
the bills. This season me and a friend are setting up a booth at a small 
local but popular farmers market showcasing and selling our photography 
prints. They have one location on Friday evenings from 5 to 7:30 and at 
another location on Saturday mornings from 8 to 12. Will work in getting 
out and creating captures when I can locate the time.


I have been adding new photos to my site off and on when I find the time 
to get them edited and uploaded. Well I won't keep you all reading any 
longer just wanted to say hey and to let you know I am reading and 
lurking when I find the time.


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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Mark C]

Perfect light in that - excellent portrait.

On 4/28/2015 8:58 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/

K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.

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Re: PESO - rooms with a view

[Mark C]

Well, now the landlord can try to charge extra for the view...

The thing that caught my eye - the two "one way" signs coupled with the 
"wrong way" sign Confusing!


Mark

On 4/28/2015 5:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
after the fire in the East Village in NY at 7th St and 2nd, The people 
in one of the adjoining buildings now have window with a view of the 
street instead of a breezeway and other's windows.  I took this 21 
days after the event.  The apartments are supposed to be inhabitable, 
according to authorities, but the people that live there are not 
moving back in (yet)  Those apartments are still filled with foul 
aromas and
people going back to retrieve things they need while staying with 
friends are getting sick just for being in their apartments for less 
than an hour... it's really awful - as they landlord is expecting them 
to pay rent.


(that's my paraphrasing of an article in a local paper, but I can tell
you that the places across the street whose doors were shut for 
several days after the fire still smelled of smoke once they opened 
again for several more days.)


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-Z4xLCbH/L 



and this was the day after the fire - the building in the other PESO is
The one on the right behind that tree.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-4ntpJWf/L 



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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Ann Sanfedele]

very lovely - nice capture, pretty gal
and what those other guys said :-)

ann

On 4/28/2015 20:27, Eric Weir wrote:



On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 28/4/15, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:


I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/

K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.

Comments always appreciated.


Charming. What a face. Lovely shot.


My sentiments. Striking, actually.

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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

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> On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 28/4/15, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
>> chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).
>> 
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/
>> 
>> K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.
>> 
>> Comments always appreciated.
> 
> Charming. What a face. Lovely shot.

My sentiments. Striking, actually.

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Re: Peso an unseen view

[Don Guthrie]

Ah yes Ann, I forgot that was so close to you. The building that burnt 
here was a church converted into a single family residence unoccupied.



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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 16:49:01 -0400
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I love that... capped off with the pigeon , just perfect...  my kinda
place...  but right now, a bit sad, given the situation at the end of my
street... I'll peso under its own subject line.

ann


On 4/28/2015 13:50, Bulent Celasun wrote:

>Quite a view, really!
>
>Bulent


2015-04-28 19:56 GMT+03:00 Donald Guthrie :
> Last year a building burned down here. Now after the demolition this is a
> view, which was unseen for 100 years, of the building next door .
> C&C .
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>
> https://flic.kr/p/s5uMvk


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ReRe: Peso an unseen view

[Don Guthrie]

John, you get the prize. I didn't catch it myself until  I processed the 
photo. The Fireside Lounge has occupied the ground floor there for 30 years.


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Ironic name on the side of the building.

On 4/28/2015 12:56 PM, Donald Guthrie wrote:

>Last year a building burned down here. Now after the demolition this is
>a view, which was unseen for 100 years, of the building next door .
>C&C .
>
>
>https://flic.kr/p/s5uMvk
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Re: Re: Peso an unseen view

[Don Guthrie]

Yes Jack, I once climbed that fire escape to shoot the rooftop on the 
building that burned down. If that chair was there at the time of the 
fire I am surprised it didn't melt. Thanks Jack.





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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:40:36 + (UTC)
From: Jack Davis
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Interesting shot, Don.
I can imagine the secret view feeling the person(s) in that fire escape white 
chair must have felt.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: "Donald Guthrie"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 9:56:49 AM
Subject: Peso an unseen view

Last year a building burned down here. Now after the demolition this is
a view, which was unseen for 100 years, of the building next door .
C&C .


https://flic.kr/p/s5uMvk



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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Steve Sharpe :



Also trivia: My mum still has my original ist-D (which cost me
$1500.00!) and as far as I know it's still working. I've got the
optional battery grip for it around here somewhere, too.


I still have mine, with grip. It was my back-up camera (not the K20D)
to the K-3 on our UK trip last fall. I use it occasionally for IR
photography. It still complains about whatever batteries I put in
it...then shuts up and works.
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I still have the one I bought from Mark C when my then back-up camera  
(the *ist DS) died. It still works fine, although it doesn't get out  
much lately (much like me, really...)


I actually had the DS repaired eventually. I have a soft spot for it -  
it was my first DSLR, and a silver one to boot.



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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Steve Cottrell]

On 28/4/15, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
>chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/
>
>K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.
>
>Comments always appreciated.

Charming. What a face. Lovely shot.

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PESO - rooms with a view

[Ann Sanfedele]

after the fire in the East Village in NY at 7th St and 2nd, The people 
in one of the adjoining buildings now have window with a view of the 
street instead of a breezeway and other's windows.  I took this 21 days 
after the event.  The apartments are supposed to be inhabitable, 
according to authorities, but the people that live there are not moving 
back in (yet)  Those apartments are still filled with foul aromas and
people going back to retrieve things they need while staying with 
friends are getting sick just for being in their apartments for less 
than an hour... it's really awful - as they landlord is expecting them 
to pay rent.


(that's my paraphrasing of an article in a local paper, but I can tell
you that the places across the street whose doors were shut for several 
days after the fire still smelled of smoke once they opened again for 
several more days.)


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-Z4xLCbH/L

and this was the day after the fire - the building in the other PESO is
The one on the right behind that tree.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-4ntpJWf/L

ann

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Re: PDML Photo Annual update: Down to the wire

[Steve Cottrell]

On 27/4/15, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Actually, I should be able to order some as soon as I upload the final
>version. They should arrive here about the same time I get back from
>the UK. In fact, given how fast their turnaround seems to be now, I
>might want to order them while I'm away.

Let us know when it's uploaded, I'll place an order and see if we can't
get some here during your visit

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Re: OT - Toronto in June

[Steve Cottrell]

On 27/4/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Who  says i have a bed.

Dave hangs out more in his garage.

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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Ken Waller]

Very well done portrait Bruce, natural, well captured, and a plesant looking 
lady. I'd like to see either more space from her head to the top edge or cut 
off some of the top of her head to eliminate the spacing to the top edge. 
That would also minimize the thingy in the background over her left 
shoulder. As it is, it looks like something you overlooked IMO.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Walker" 

Subject: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café



I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/

K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.

Comments always appreciated.



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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[John]

On 4/28/2015 11:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Mark Roberts  wrote:


All the earliest Pentax digitals used Sony sensors: ist-D, ist-DS,
ist-DS2, ist-DL, ist-DL2, K-10D, K200D, K2000, K-m, K-100D, K-110D


You know, it wasn't till I typed up that list that I realized how many
models actually produced in the early days. It's a little surprising.
I may even have missed one or two. What about the K-x? I think that
was 12 megapixels and used a Sony sensor but I'm not sure.

Trivia: Due to the PDML's close association with Pentax (at that time)
a few of us got to try out the first Pentax DSLR, the ist-D, at
Grandfather Mountain a couple of months before it became available to
the public.

Also trivia: My mum still has my original ist-D (which cost me
$1500.00!) and as far as I know it's still working. I've got the
optional battery grip for it around here somewhere, too.



According to Wikipedia, the K-x used a version of Sony's Exemor CMOS sensor.

If you need a spare *ist-D, I'll sell you mine for 1/10 what you paid
for yours & throw in the battery grip gratis.

Plus postage of course.

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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[John]

The *ist-D had a Sony sensor. The MZ-D prototype was the only pre-Sony
sensor Pentax camera AFAIK.

I think you forgot what happens when you ASSUME.  ;-D

On 4/28/2015 11:20 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

Darren Addy  wrote:


If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days


A film Pentax, in other words?



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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Mark Roberts]

Bruce Walker wrote:

>I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
>chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/
>
>K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.

Great use of natural light! Very nice.
 
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Re: Peso an unseen view

[John]

Ironic name on the side of the building.

On 4/28/2015 12:56 PM, Donald Guthrie wrote:

Last year a building burned down here. Now after the demolition this is
a view, which was unseen for 100 years, of the building next door .
C&C .


https://flic.kr/p/s5uMvk



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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Steve Sharpe]

> 
> Also trivia: My mum still has my original ist-D (which cost me
> $1500.00!) and as far as I know it's still working. I've got the
> optional battery grip for it around here somewhere, too.

I still have mine, with grip. It was my back-up camera (not the K20D) 
to the K-3 on our UK trip last fall. I use it occasionally for IR 
photography. It still complains about whatever batteries I put in 
it...then shuts up and works.
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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Knarf]

Beautiful.

Cheers,

frank

On 28 April, 2015 8:58:59 AM EDT, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
>chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/
>
>K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.
>
>Comments always appreciated.
>
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Re: Peso an unseen view

[Bulent Celasun]

Quite a view, really!

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2015-04-28 19:56 GMT+03:00 Donald Guthrie :
> Last year a building burned down here. Now after the demolition this is a
> view, which was unseen for 100 years, of the building next door .
> C&C .
>
>
> https://flic.kr/p/s5uMvk
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Re: Peso an unseen view

[Jack Davis]

Interesting shot, Don.
I can imagine the secret view feeling the person(s) in that fire escape white 
chair must have felt. 

Jack

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Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 9:56:49 AM
Subject: Peso an unseen view

Last year a building burned down here. Now after the demolition this is 
a view, which was unseen for 100 years, of the building next door .
C&C .


https://flic.kr/p/s5uMvk

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Re: Looking for a memory card reader...

[Paul]

Six months, interest free...

-p

On 4/28/2015 11:13 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 4/28/2015 12:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

A few months ago I got a spectacular deal on a refurbished HP laptop
with the only provisio that the built-in SD card slot didn't work. No
problem, really. External card readers are cheap these days, right? Oh
yes. And it's even better than that:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/SpecialFinancingAvailable.png



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RE: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Malcolm Smith]

Mark Roberts wrote:

> Also trivia: My mum still has my original ist-D (which cost me
> $1500.00!) and as far as I know it's still working. I've got the
> optional battery grip for it around here somewhere, too.

At least she has the camera for it to go with. After going missing after I
bought it, I've recently found my battery grip for the *ist D which is still
new, unused and boxed. A pity the actually camera was sold some years ago.

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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Marco Alpert]

Lovely!

-Marco

On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:58 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
> chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/
> 
> K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.
> 
> Comments always appreciated.
> 
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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[John Francis]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:49:32AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> Also trivia: My mum still has my original ist-D (which cost me
> $1500.00!) and as far as I know it's still working. I've got the
> optional battery grip for it around here somewhere, too.

Only $1500?  You got a deal!  I'm pretty sure I paid $1695 for mine.

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Peso an unseen view

[Donald Guthrie]

Last year a building burned down here. Now after the demolition this is 
a view, which was unseen for 100 years, of the building next door .

C&C .


https://flic.kr/p/s5uMvk

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Re: Looking for a memory card reader...

[P.J. Alling]

On 4/28/2015 12:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

A few months ago I got a spectacular deal on a refurbished HP laptop
with the only provisio that the built-in SD card slot didn't work. No
problem, really. External card readers are cheap these days, right? Oh
yes. And it's even better than that:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/SpecialFinancingAvailable.png



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Looking for a memory card reader...

[Mark Roberts]

A few months ago I got a spectacular deal on a refurbished HP laptop
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problem, really. External card readers are cheap these days, right? Oh
yes. And it's even better than that:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/SpecialFinancingAvailable.png


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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Mark Roberts]

Mark Roberts  wrote:

>All the earliest Pentax digitals used Sony sensors: ist-D, ist-DS,
>ist-DS2, ist-DL, ist-DL2, K-10D, K200D, K2000, K-m, K-100D, K-110D

You know, it wasn't till I typed up that list that I realized how many
models actually produced in the early days. It's a little surprising.
I may even have missed one or two. What about the K-x? I think that
was 12 megapixels and used a Sony sensor but I'm not sure.

Trivia: Due to the PDML's close association with Pentax (at that time)
a few of us got to try out the first Pentax DSLR, the ist-D, at
Grandfather Mountain a couple of months before it became available to
the public.

Also trivia: My mum still has my original ist-D (which cost me
$1500.00!) and as far as I know it's still working. I've got the
optional battery grip for it around here somewhere, too.

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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[P.J. Alling]

I don't think that's right Darren, one of the knocks on the K20D was 
that the K200D had much better low light performance based on it's 
supposed Sony sensor.


The APS-C sensor in the K20D and K-7 were the first large imaging 
sensors made by Samsung,(which was CMOS BTW), while the K200D basically 
got somewhat improved and simplified guts inherited from the K10D which 
had a Sony CCD.


What the K200D was essentially was a K10D in a K100D Super body.

On 4/28/2015 11:20 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

Darren Addy  wrote:


If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days

A film Pentax, in other words?


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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Darren Addy]

Sorry I mentioned it.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Darren Addy  wrote:
>
>>On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mark Roberts
>> wrote:
>>> Darren Addy  wrote:
>>>
If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days
>>>
>>> A film Pentax, in other words?
>>>
>>My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.
>
> All the earliest Pentax digitals used Sony sensors: ist-D, ist-DS,
> ist-DS2, ist-DL, ist-DL2, K-10D, K200D, K2000, K-m, K-100D, K-110D
>
> Only the K-20D and K-7 used Samsung sensors.
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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Mark Roberts]

Darren Addy  wrote:

>On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mark Roberts
> wrote:
>> Darren Addy  wrote:
>>
>>>If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days
>>
>> A film Pentax, in other words?
>>
>My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.

All the earliest Pentax digitals used Sony sensors: ist-D, ist-DS,
ist-DS2, ist-DL, ist-DL2, K-10D, K200D, K2000, K-m, K-100D, K-110D

Only the K-20D and K-7 used Samsung sensors.

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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Eric Featherstone]

On 28 April 2015 at 16:20, Darren Addy  wrote:
> My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.

K200D inherited the Sony CCD from the K10D. The K20D was the first
with a Samsung sensor, and IIRC the K7 was the last. Before and after
that it was Sony.

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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Matthew Hunt]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.

Yes, there were Pentax DSLRs with Samsung sensors, but most of them
have been Sony, including the *ist D (Pentax's first DSLR). So the
phrase "pre-Sony sensor days" doesn't make a lot of sense. Hence
Mark's joke about film.

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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Darren Addy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_K10D

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/K7/K7A.HTM

Basically it looks like nearly every model before the K-x.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_K20D
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mark Roberts
>>  wrote:
>>> Darren Addy  wrote:
>>>
If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days
>>>
>>> A film Pentax, in other words?
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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[P.J. Alling]

I think you're a little off there a non-Sony sensor would be K20D/K-7 
everything else that Pentax built as far as DSLRs had Sony sensors.  B&H 
has the same types of deals and on the "standard kit" type lenses, and 
the same base price on the Black K-50, most of the color combinations 
seem to be no longer available so we may be seeing the practical end of 
the K-50 as a product.  16mp sensor DSLRs are so 2013...


On 4/28/2015 10:16 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days, here is
a no-brainer.
First a K-50 with a free AF-200FG flash for $349.95.
But here's what makes it irresistable:
Add a DA 50mm f1.8 for $19.95 and a DA 35mm f2.4 for $84.95
Used K-50s are bringing $250-279.

Amazon's best prices:
K-50... $349.95
AF-200FG  $42.99
DA 50mm f1.8... $134.95
DA 35mm f2.4 $139.90

http://www.adorama.com/bundles/IPXK50BK
So that bundle is a savings of over $200.

If you prefer to you can add the DA 10-17mm for $275 or the D-FA 50mm
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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I like that a lot.


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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
> chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/
>
> K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.
>
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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Darren Addy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_K20D


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
>> Darren Addy  wrote:
>>
>>>If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days
>>
>> A film Pentax, in other words?
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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Darren Addy]

My K200D was a Samsung sensor and I assume it wasn't the only model.

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> Darren Addy  wrote:
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Re: K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Mark Roberts]

Darren Addy  wrote:

>If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days

A film Pentax, in other words?


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K-50 + primes: Crazy good deal.

[Darren Addy]

If you are still using a Pentax from the pre-Sony sensor days, here is
a no-brainer.
First a K-50 with a free AF-200FG flash for $349.95.
But here's what makes it irresistable:
Add a DA 50mm f1.8 for $19.95 and a DA 35mm f2.4 for $84.95
Used K-50s are bringing $250-279.

Amazon's best prices:
K-50... $349.95
AF-200FG  $42.99
DA 50mm f1.8... $134.95
DA 35mm f2.4 $139.90

http://www.adorama.com/bundles/IPXK50BK
So that bundle is a savings of over $200.

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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Bob Sullivan]

Love the sharp eyelashes.  Lovely portrait.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
> chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/
>
> K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.
>
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Re: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Jack Davis]

The white panel and curious cap are distractions. Like the facial lighting
and soft effect of a thin DoF.

Jack

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Subject: PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/

K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.

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PESO ~ A portrait of Dorrie in a café

[Bruce Walker]

I met up with Dorrie at the Agora Café in Toronto's Junction where we
chatted over coffee (for me) and chai latte (for her).

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/17088133737/

K-3, DA* 55/1.4, f:2.2, 1/640th sec, ISO 400.

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Re: PESO Stella

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a nice, strong portrait,   I'm sure she loves it!

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Stella D'Oro is one of the singers for the New Flamingo Swing Orchestra.
> They played for our local lindy hop venue last night.
> I think that this shot of her is my favorite from the set:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/17298330745/in/set-72157649908555623
>
> When I got there last night, there was someone taking photos using a flash.
> As a dancer, I got to truly appreciate why so many dancers hate it when
> photographers use flash.  To make things worse, he had it on his camera,
> pointing straight up. Sure, it's nice to get bounce rather than direct
> light, but when you're in a dim room bouncing it off the ceiling means that
> you have to light up the whole room just to photograph someone a few feet in
> front of you.
>
> A short while later, a couple a short distance from me was posing for him
> and he turned his camera to get a vertical format shot of them. He was
> oblivious to the fact that his speedlight was now pointing directly in the
> faces of another couple a few feet to his left.  Fortunately, he
> repositioned himself before taking the shot.
>
> After that song, I went over to chat with him, and suggest that he should
> probably be more aware of where he was pointing his flash.  I guess I could
> have been a little more diplomatic about it, because he didn't respond very
> positively to my suggestions.  He did, however, inform me that the room was
> too dark to photograph in without a flash. Granted, I think his camera was a
> Canon, so for him it might have been.
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Re: PESO Stella

[Knarf]

That's a wonderful informal portrait. Lots of character!

Cheers,

frank

On 28 April, 2015 4:55:04 AM EDT, Larry Colen  wrote:
>Stella D'Oro is one of the singers for the New Flamingo Swing
>Orchestra. 
>  They played for our local lindy hop venue last night.
>I think that this shot of her is my favorite from the set:
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/17298330745/in/set-72157649908555623
>
>When I got there last night, there was someone taking photos using a 
>flash. As a dancer, I got to truly appreciate why so many dancers hate 
>it when photographers use flash.  To make things worse, he had it on
>his 
>camera, pointing straight up. Sure, it's nice to get bounce rather than
>
>direct light, but when you're in a dim room bouncing it off the ceiling
>
>means that you have to light up the whole room just to photograph 
>someone a few feet in front of you.
>
>A short while later, a couple a short distance from me was posing for 
>him and he turned his camera to get a vertical format shot of them. He 
>was oblivious to the fact that his speedlight was now pointing directly
>
>in the faces of another couple a few feet to his left.  Fortunately, he
>
>repositioned himself before taking the shot.
>
>After that song, I went over to chat with him, and suggest that he 
>should probably be more aware of where he was pointing his flash.  I 
>guess I could have been a little more diplomatic about it, because he 
>didn't respond very positively to my suggestions.  He did, however, 
>inform me that the room was too dark to photograph in without a flash. 
>Granted, I think his camera was a Canon, so for him it might have been.

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PESO Stella

[Larry Colen]

Stella D'Oro is one of the singers for the New Flamingo Swing Orchestra. 
 They played for our local lindy hop venue last night.

I think that this shot of her is my favorite from the set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/17298330745/in/set-72157649908555623

When I got there last night, there was someone taking photos using a 
flash. As a dancer, I got to truly appreciate why so many dancers hate 
it when photographers use flash.  To make things worse, he had it on his 
camera, pointing straight up. Sure, it's nice to get bounce rather than 
direct light, but when you're in a dim room bouncing it off the ceiling 
means that you have to light up the whole room just to photograph 
someone a few feet in front of you.


A short while later, a couple a short distance from me was posing for 
him and he turned his camera to get a vertical format shot of them. He 
was oblivious to the fact that his speedlight was now pointing directly 
in the faces of another couple a few feet to his left.  Fortunately, he 
repositioned himself before taking the shot.


After that song, I went over to chat with him, and suggest that he 
should probably be more aware of where he was pointing his flash.  I 
guess I could have been a little more diplomatic about it, because he 
didn't respond very positively to my suggestions.  He did, however, 
inform me that the room was too dark to photograph in without a flash. 
Granted, I think his camera was a Canon, so for him it might have been.



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