Lightroom Question

2008-12-07 Thread Eactivist

I have LR 1. I've TRIED to use it to create  a web gallery. But every time I 
do it resizes my photos. 

I resize my own  photos when I convert them to jpg. I try to make them the 
size I think is good  for viewing (landscape 700-800 mp wide, and portrait 
660mp 
tall max.) that also  won't overwhelm older browsers.

But it always seems to resize them about  to be about 70% of the original 
size.

I figured the next time Bob threw  up a gallery (he seems to use it pretty 
exclusively) I'd take a second look,  because I remembered his photos being 
larger than what LR is giving  me.

Yup.
http://www.web-options.com/Dec7/

(Not the image  quality, I'd have difficulty matching that, :-), but the 
size).

When  constructing the web gallery in LR I have found a little slider bar on 
the right  that is under Large and is labeled Quality and I bump it up to 
100%. But it  STILL resizes my photos.

How can I avoid this? What am I  missing?

TIA, Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Lightroom Question

2008-06-01 Thread Rick Womer
I would like to add a photo to an existing Collection.

So, I read the f###ing documentation, which says to
select the photo in Library Grid mode, and drag it to
the desired collection in the Collection Panel.

Nifty, except that the photos don't drag anywhere.

How is it =really= done?

(and why, or why, can't Adobe ever produce decent
documentation?)

Rick


  

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LightRoom question

2008-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Here is a simple question which I cannot answer myself:

Suppose I have a folder with several photos. Some of the photos has 
keyword tags associated with them. Some other photos don't have any 
associated tags. How can I display only the latter?

Thanks.

Boris

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Lightroom question

2008-07-29 Thread Mark Roberts
All right, this has been driving me bonkers and I can't find an answer...

How do I change the default sort order in Lightroom? Every time I import 
a directory of files it sorts the images by "capture time" and I have to 
*manually* change it to sort by file name. What's worse is when I'm in a 
hurry and forget to do this there doesn't seem to be a way to change 
groups of directories in one go: I've just spent half an hour going 
through previously imported directories and correcting the sort order 
manually - one at a time. It's infuriating and I know there has to be an 
easier way.


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Lightroom question

2009-10-11 Thread Larry Colen
I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.

The only catch is that I've never printed any of my digital
photos. Therefore, it would be wise for me to do a test run and get
some of my shots printed.

I've collected a list of some of my favorites on flickr. It should
be fairly easy to find the files, and even in theory the libraries(?)
that they're in.

I'd like to collect all of those shots, with the processing data that
I've already done, and have a special grouping of them all in one
place. I'd rather do this without duplicating the raw files that are
already there, though I don't mind if the files of processing
instructions (for printing) are different than the current iteration
of those files.

I could look this stuff up in various lightroom books, but I'm not
even sure what to look for.

One complication to this whole process is that I've moved my whole
directory tree of photos from one drive, to another, at least
once. And I believe the catalogue (?) files as well. At one point in
my attempt to get my old catalogue, or whatever it's called, I pointed
the wrong thing to the wrong place in the directory tree, and messed
everything up, so there's weird duplication with something pointing to
places that aren't there for various libraries, or catalogues or
whatever. 

I'm not familiar enough with lightroom (yes, I know, I should take
Godfrey's class) to know what things I should look up in the
index. I've run into problems before because what I think is the
intuitively correct name is different than what Adobe thinks is the
intuitively correct name.

If it helps for pointing. I've got Kelby's Adobe photoshop lightroom
book and Resnick and Spritzer's Lightroom Workbook. I may have a
couple other books around someplace, but those are the one sitting on
my computer at the moment.

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Lightroom Question

2014-08-19 Thread John

Not even off topic here this time ...

I got my laptop out to exercise it before the PPofNC convention and 
re-installed software - Photoshop CS5, Lightroom 3.2 and Corel Painter 11.


This time when I installed Lightroom I managed to do so without it 
trying to catalog every image on both hard-drives.


But I am having another problem ...

I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my 
memory card. I can see the images IN LIGHTROOM. I can do all sorts of 
lightroom stuff to them ...


But where the hell are my actual DNG files?

Like if I wanted to open an image with Photoshop so I could convert it 
to a PSD file I can open with Painter?


NO, I am NOT going to upgrade lightroom to the latest version if I can't 
ever get the version I already paid for to work.


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Lightroom question

2014-06-16 Thread Larry Colen
My friend Candice wanted to try her hand at processing one of my photos in 
lightroom. I exported several virtual copies of it onto a catalog on a usb 
stick. She imported that catalog, made the tweaks she wanted and saved the 
catalog back to the usb stick.

I’d like to import her edits to the file as virtual copies along side my edits, 
but I seem to either have the option of copying the files to a new location, or 
importing the edits leaving the files in place. If I try the latter, unmounting 
the stick, then pointing at the raw file already on my disk, it says it can’t 
have two things pointing to the same raw file.

How do I solve this problem of merging edits as virtual copies?


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Lightroom question

2016-12-15 Thread Bill
I'm probably missing something obvious, but in Lightroom 6 (not CC), 
when rating images by star, there is a banner popup that indicates an 
image has just been given a rating.

Can it be made to go away?

thanks

bill

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Lightroom Question

2018-08-10 Thread Bill
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is 
the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill

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Re: Lightroom Question

2008-12-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Marnie, it is easy. Instead of making a web directory from small
images, you can make it from originals. In the parameters of web
gallery mode you can find a parameter that sets the size of imported
images.

Unfortunately I have LR 2.1, thus I cannot show you the screen shot,
but it is there and I hope you find this parameter.

Once you solve this issue, I suggest you make a web gallery settings
preset so that to save your time for the next gallery.

HTH.

Boris

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How can I avoid this? What am I  missing?
>
> TIA, Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Lightroom Question

2008-12-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/7/2008 11:21:00 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie, it is easy. Instead  of making a web directory from small
images, you can make it from originals.  In the parameters of web
gallery mode you can find a parameter that sets the  size of imported
images.

Unfortunately I have LR 2.1, thus I cannot  show you the screen shot,
but it is there and I hope you find this  parameter.

Once you solve this issue, I suggest you make a web gallery  settings
preset so that to save your time for the next  gallery.

HTH.

Boris


Well, Boris, I thought  I WAS making it from the originals. But I'll look 
around and see if I can find  some settings about that. (Actually, I don't know 
where that setting is, but  I'll look around.)

That's sounds like it's probably the problem, though.  So, thanks.

Marnie  :-)

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RE: Lightroom Question

2008-12-07 Thread Bob W
Thanks for the flattery. 

In the web module, on the Image tab there is a Size slider which you can use
to set the size of the long edge. I always shooot raw and leave it to the
web module to resize. I generally go with 900 pixels for 2:3 pictures, and
800 pixels for 4:3. If I remember I set the quality to 50% or lower,
otherwise downloads take the better part of infinity for some people. No
need for any fancy presets.

If I want to stick just a jpeg up I use the export functionality. 

Bob


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 December 2008 18:03
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Lightroom Question
> 
> 
> I have LR 1. I've TRIED to use it to create  a web gallery. 
> But every time I 
> do it resizes my photos. 
> 
> I resize my own  photos when I convert them to jpg. I try to 
> make them the 
> size I think is good  for viewing (landscape 700-800 mp wide, 
> and portrait 660mp 
> tall max.) that also  won't overwhelm older browsers.
> 
> But it always seems to resize them about  to be about 70% of 
> the original 
> size.
> 
> I figured the next time Bob threw  up a gallery (he seems to 
> use it pretty 
> exclusively) I'd take a second look,  because I remembered 
> his photos being 
> larger than what LR is giving  me.
> 
> Yup.
> http://www.web-options.com/Dec7/
> 
> (Not the image  quality, I'd have difficulty matching that, 
> :-), but the 
> size).
> 
> When  constructing the web gallery in LR I have found a 
> little slider bar on 
> the right  that is under Large and is labeled Quality and I 
> bump it up to 
> 100%. But it  STILL resizes my photos.
> 
> How can I avoid this? What am I  missing?
> 
> TIA, Marnie aka Doe  :-)


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Re: Lightroom Question

2008-12-07 Thread David Savage
The "image pages" slider under "Appearance" is the one that controls
the final image size.

The quality slider just adjusts the amount of .jpg compression.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/12/8  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I have LR 1. I've TRIED to use it to create  a web gallery. But every time I
> do it resizes my photos.
>
> I resize my own  photos when I convert them to jpg. I try to make them the
> size I think is good  for viewing (landscape 700-800 mp wide, and portrait 
> 660mp
> tall max.) that also  won't overwhelm older browsers.
>
> But it always seems to resize them about  to be about 70% of the original
> size.
>
> I figured the next time Bob threw  up a gallery (he seems to use it pretty
> exclusively) I'd take a second look,  because I remembered his photos being
> larger than what LR is giving  me.
>
> Yup.
> http://www.web-options.com/Dec7/
>
> (Not the image  quality, I'd have difficulty matching that, :-), but the
> size).
>
> When  constructing the web gallery in LR I have found a little slider bar on
> the right  that is under Large and is labeled Quality and I bump it up to
> 100%. But it  STILL resizes my photos.
>
> How can I avoid this? What am I  missing?
>
> TIA, Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Lightroom Question

2008-12-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/7/2008 1:47:48 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The "image pages" slider  under "Appearance" is the one that controls
the final image size.

The  quality slider just adjusts the amount of .jpg  compression.

Cheers,

Dave

==
Hey, great. I will  take a look.

Thanks a lot, Dave.

Marnie  :-)

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Re: Lightroom Question

2008-12-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/7/2008 1:09:11 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks for the flattery.  

In the web module, on the Image tab there is a Size slider which you can  use
to set the size of the long edge. I always shooot raw and leave it to  the
web module to resize. I generally go with 900 pixels for 2:3 pictures,  and
800 pixels for 4:3. If I remember I set the quality to 50% or  lower,
otherwise downloads take the better part of infinity for some people.  No
need for any fancy presets.

If I want to stick just a jpeg up I use  the export functionality. 

Bob


Aha. Cool. That's  very helpful. Thanks.

Hmmm, is it flattery when it's true? Oh, well,  you're on my hate list 
anyway, so I should probably just ignore your  comment.

Marnie  
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Re: Lightroom Question

2008-06-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 1, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> I would like to add a photo to an existing Collection.
>
> So, I read the f###ing documentation, which says to
> select the photo in Library Grid mode, and drag it to
> the desired collection in the Collection Panel.
>
> Nifty, except that the photos don't drag anywhere.
>
> How is it =really= done?


Exactly as they state: Click and drag a thumbnail from the Grid view  
onto the Collection you want to add it to. If the particular image or  
copy is already in the Collection you drag it to, Lightroom will not  
allow you to add it twice.

I have no idea why it would not work on your system. Perhaps you're  
not giving Lightroom that momentary pause required for it to know  
that you've clicked and dragged the image? I find this happens to me  
occasionally.

An alternative is to select the thumbnails in either the Library grid  
view or the Film Strip panel and control-click on the Collection you  
want to add them to. Pick the "Add Selected Photos To This  
Collection" command ... Lightroom will add them as requested.

A nice touch ... if you have a folder or collection selected in grid  
view and hover the mouse over a Collection, Lightroom will highlight  
all the files from the current location that are already included in  
the collection you are hovering over.

Godfrey

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Re: Lightroom Question

2008-06-01 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Godders.

I found out why it wasn't working--I was clicking on
the "slide mount" in the Grid view, rather than on the
image itself.  I don't want fingerprints on the
images, after all...

Rick

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Jun 1, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> 
> > I would like to add a photo to an existing
> Collection.
> >
> > So, I read the f###ing documentation, which says
> to
> > select the photo in Library Grid mode, and drag it
> to
> > the desired collection in the Collection Panel.
> >
> > Nifty, except that the photos don't drag anywhere.
> >
> > How is it =really= done?
> 
> 
> Exactly as they state: Click and drag a thumbnail
> from the Grid view  
> onto the Collection you want to add it to. If the
> particular image or  
> copy is already in the Collection you drag it to,
> Lightroom will not  
> allow you to add it twice.
> 
> I have no idea why it would not work on your system.
> Perhaps you're  
> not giving Lightroom that momentary pause required
> for it to know  
> that you've clicked and dragged the image? I find
> this happens to me  
> occasionally.
> 
> An alternative is to select the thumbnails in either
> the Library grid  
> view or the Film Strip panel and control-click on
> the Collection you  
> want to add them to. Pick the "Add Selected Photos
> To This  
> Collection" command ... Lightroom will add them as
> requested.
> 
> A nice touch ... if you have a folder or collection
> selected in grid  
> view and hover the mouse over a Collection,
> Lightroom will highlight  
> all the files from the current location that are
> already included in  
> the collection you are hovering over.
> 
> Godfrey
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Re: Lightroom Question

2008-06-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 1, 2008, at 16:37, Rick Womer wrote:

> Thanks, Godders.
>
> I found out why it wasn't working--I was clicking on
> the "slide mount" in the Grid view, rather than on the
> image itself.  I don't want fingerprints on the
> images, after all...
>

I was making exactly that same mistake when I started (and maybe for  
the same reason!)

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Re: LightRoom question

2008-06-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Easiest way (Lightroom 1.4.1):

- click on the folder or collection of photos you want to search
- open the Find panel
- click the Text checkbox
- set the upper popup to Keywords
- set the Rule popup to Are Empty

The grid will now show all exposures which have no assigned keywords.

Godfrey


On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Here is a simple question which I cannot answer myself:
>
> Suppose I have a folder with several photos. Some of the photos has
> keyword tags associated with them. Some other photos don't have any
> associated tags. How can I display only the latter?


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Re: LightRoom question

2008-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Got that!

Thanks!


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Easiest way (Lightroom 1.4.1):
> 
> - click on the folder or collection of photos you want to search
> - open the Find panel
> - click the Text checkbox
> - set the upper popup to Keywords
> - set the Rule popup to Are Empty
> 
> The grid will now show all exposures which have no assigned keywords.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> Here is a simple question which I cannot answer myself:
>>
>> Suppose I have a folder with several photos. Some of the photos has
>> keyword tags associated with them. Some other photos don't have any
>> associated tags. How can I display only the latter?
> 
> 


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Re: Lightroom question

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote:
> All right, this has been driving me bonkers and I can't find an answer...
> 
> How do I change the default sort order in Lightroom? Every time I import 
> a directory of files it sorts the images by "capture time" and I have to 
> *manually* change it to sort by file name. What's worse is when I'm in a 
> hurry and forget to do this there doesn't seem to be a way to change 
> groups of directories in one go: I've just spent half an hour going 
> through previously imported directories and correcting the sort order 
> manually - one at a time. It's infuriating and I know there has to be an 
> easier way.
> 
> 
I'm not too terribly familiar with Lightroom, having only used it a 
handful of times, but this looks promising. 
http://regex.info/Lightroom/Meta/View=Jeffrey

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Re: Lightroom question

2008-07-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote:
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>> All right, this has been driving me bonkers and I can't find an answer...
>>
>> How do I change the default sort order in Lightroom? Every time I import 
>> a directory of files it sorts the images by "capture time" and I have to 
>> *manually* change it to sort by file name. What's worse is when I'm in a 
>> hurry and forget to do this there doesn't seem to be a way to change 
>> groups of directories in one go: I've just spent half an hour going 
>> through previously imported directories and correcting the sort order 
>> manually - one at a time. It's infuriating and I know there has to be an 
>> easier way.
>>
> I'm not too terribly familiar with Lightroom, having only used it a 
> handful of times, but this looks promising. 
> http://regex.info/Lightroom/Meta/View=Jeffrey

It might help, but I'm not gonna mess with it: "a hidden, unsupported 
feature of these custom templates, which themselves are a hidden, 
unsupported feature of Lightroom"

I've done some searching of the Internets and found, to my complete 
amazement, that there *isn't* any way to change the default sort order 
in Lightroom! (Well, besides playing with undocumented, hidden, 
unsupported stuff like the above.) Nor is there a way to change the sort 
order of more than one directory at a time!

Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about these issues, 
particularly the default sort order problem. I'm hoping  that 
Adobe has fixed it in Lightroom 2.0, which was released yesterday.



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RE: Lightroom question

2008-07-29 Thread Bob W
> Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about 
> these issues, 

I'm quite surprised by that. OK, there should be a way to change the
default sort order on import, but until your post I had no idea there
wasn't - I've felt no need for anything other than what it does. I do
sort collections, but that's after import, and I can't think why I
would want to sort all collections in the same way - I definitely want
to be in control of the order they show in, and a 'sort all' feature
could leave to some very blue language.

Bob

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Roberts
> Sent: 29 July 2008 19:32
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Lightroom question
> 
> Scott Loveless wrote:
> > Mark Roberts wrote:
> >> All right, this has been driving me bonkers and I can't 
> find an answer...
> >>
> >> How do I change the default sort order in Lightroom? Every 
> time I import 
> >> a directory of files it sorts the images by "capture time" 
> and I have to 
> >> *manually* change it to sort by file name. What's worse is 
> when I'm in a 
> >> hurry and forget to do this there doesn't seem to be a way 
> to change 
> >> groups of directories in one go: I've just spent half an 
> hour going 
> >> through previously imported directories and correcting the 
> sort order 
> >> manually - one at a time. It's infuriating and I know 
> there has to be an 
> >> easier way.
> >>
> > I'm not too terribly familiar with Lightroom, having only used it
a 
> > handful of times, but this looks promising. 
> > http://regex.info/Lightroom/Meta/View=Jeffrey
> 
> It might help, but I'm not gonna mess with it: "a hidden,
unsupported 
> feature of these custom templates, which themselves are a hidden, 
> unsupported feature of Lightroom"
> 
> I've done some searching of the Internets and found, to my complete 
> amazement, that there *isn't* any way to change the default 
> sort order 
> in Lightroom! (Well, besides playing with undocumented, hidden, 
> unsupported stuff like the above.) Nor is there a way to 
> change the sort 
> order of more than one directory at a time!
> 
> Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about 
> these issues, 
> particularly the default sort order problem. I'm hoping  that

> Adobe has fixed it in Lightroom 2.0, which was released yesterday.
> 
> 
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Re: Lightroom question

2008-07-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:
>> Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about 
>> these issues, 
> 
> I'm quite surprised by that. OK, there should be a way to change the
> default sort order on import, but until your post I had no idea there
> wasn't - I've felt no need for anything other than what it does. I do
> sort collections, but that's after import, and I can't think why I
> would want to sort all collections in the same way - I definitely want
> to be in control of the order they show in, and a 'sort all' feature
> could leave to some very blue language.

I'm not talking about a "sort all" feature. I meant the ability to 
manually select *specific* directories and then apply a sort to just 
these selected directories with one action. Hardly something one could 
do by accident (and in fact it's something I'd never do at all if I were 
allowed to have all imports have my own preferred sort order by default).

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Re: Lightroom question

2008-07-29 Thread David J Brooks
I have the Beta 2 version here, i'll try a sort on it and see what it does.

Dave

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob W wrote:
>>> Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about
>>> these issues,
>>
>> I'm quite surprised by that. OK, there should be a way to change the
>> default sort order on import, but until your post I had no idea there
>> wasn't - I've felt no need for anything other than what it does. I do
>> sort collections, but that's after import, and I can't think why I
>> would want to sort all collections in the same way - I definitely want
>> to be in control of the order they show in, and a 'sort all' feature
>> could leave to some very blue language.
>
> I'm not talking about a "sort all" feature. I meant the ability to
> manually select *specific* directories and then apply a sort to just
> these selected directories with one action. Hardly something one could
> do by accident (and in fact it's something I'd never do at all if I were
> allowed to have all imports have my own preferred sort order by default).
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-11 Thread Charles Robinson

On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote:


I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.



[snip!]

I didn't see a question...?

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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
OK, Here's a question.
In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos.
That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up.
With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters.
So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around
for a long time.
Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder?
That's what I did in PS Elements.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote:
>
>> I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
>> of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.
>
>
> [snip!]
>
> I didn't see a question...?
>
>  -Charles
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-11 Thread Paul Sorenson

Larry -

I think your question is "how do I get files printable by a third party 
from the raw files I've manipulated".  Yes??


Here's one way...

With Lightroom in library mode -

Create a "Collection" - give it a name that describes the content
Find the images you want to get printed and add them to the collection
   You don't have to add them all at one time - if they're in different 
folders find the ones in one folder and add them, then move to the next 
folder you want to use and add them, etc.  You can select 
multiple files in each folder and add them at once.
When you have them added to the collection, show the Collection in the 
Library pane, select the ones you want to send out to be printed and 
export them as jpg's.  Be sure to export them as sRGB's.  The export 
dialogue lets you specify where to put the exported jpg's so now you can 
navigate there in Windows Explorer and either upload them to your print 
source or copy them to whatever media you want to use to get them to 
your third party printer.


HTH

-p

Larry Colen wrote:

I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.

The only catch is that I've never printed any of my digital
photos. Therefore, it would be wise for me to do a test run and get
some of my shots printed.

I've collected a list of some of my favorites on flickr. It should
be fairly easy to find the files, and even in theory the libraries(?)
that they're in.

I'd like to collect all of those shots, with the processing data that
I've already done, and have a special grouping of them all in one
place. I'd rather do this without duplicating the raw files that are
already there, though I don't mind if the files of processing
instructions (for printing) are different than the current iteration
of those files.

I could look this stuff up in various lightroom books, but I'm not
even sure what to look for.

One complication to this whole process is that I've moved my whole
directory tree of photos from one drive, to another, at least
once. And I believe the catalogue (?) files as well. At one point in
my attempt to get my old catalogue, or whatever it's called, I pointed
the wrong thing to the wrong place in the directory tree, and messed
everything up, so there's weird duplication with something pointing to
places that aren't there for various libraries, or catalogues or
whatever. 


I'm not familiar enough with lightroom (yes, I know, I should take
Godfrey's class) to know what things I should look up in the
index. I've run into problems before because what I think is the
intuitively correct name is different than what Adobe thinks is the
intuitively correct name.

If it helps for pointing. I've got Kelby's Adobe photoshop lightroom
book and Resnick and Spritzer's Lightroom Workbook. I may have a
couple other books around someplace, but those are the one sitting on
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-11 Thread Paul Sorenson

Bob -

See my answer to Larry - I think that answers your question, too.  
Adding those files to a Collection just tags them in a database so 
you're not keeping an additional actual image file.


-p

Bob Sullivan wrote:

OK, Here's a question.
In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos.
That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up.
With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters.
So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around
for a long time.
Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder?
That's what I did in PS Elements.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
  

On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote:



I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.
  

[snip!]

I didn't see a question...?

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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Paul,
I'm looking for a good way to keep the shots or copies up on the
laptop after I roll the originals off the laptop and into back=up
storage.  This keeps me from fumbling around with extra drives all the
time.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> Bob -
>
> See my answer to Larry - I think that answers your question, too.  Adding
> those files to a Collection just tags them in a database so you're not
> keeping an additional actual image file.
>
> -p
>
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> OK, Here's a question.
>> In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best
>> photos.
>> That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up.
>> With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
>> The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past
>> quarters.
>> So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around
>> for a long time.
>> Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder?
>> That's what I did in PS Elements.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
>>>

 I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
 of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.

>>>
>>> [snip!]
>>>
>>> I didn't see a question...?
>>>
>>>  -Charles
>>>
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49:54AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> >I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
> >of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.
> 
> 
> [snip!]
> 
> I didn't see a question...?

Sorry. The problem with trying to write something when I've been up
for 24+ hours:

I'd like to collect all of those shots, with the processing data that
I've already done, and have a special grouping of them all in one
place. I'd rather do this without duplicating the raw files that are
already there, though I don't mind if the files of processing
instructions (for printing) are different than the current iteration
of those files.


The question is, how do I copy the photos from different libraries, or
catalogues, or whatever they're called into a single set? Preferably
doing so in such a way that I'm collecting the lightroom info about
each photo, rather than just duplicating the raw files.

When I import files, it maintains the directory structure of where
each of the photos is, and this may, or may not be a good thing.

> 
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
OK, Here's a  question.
In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009  best 
photos.
That way, I can reference and print them without digging them  up.
With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
The laptop quickly fills  with new images, and I have to roll off past 
quarters.
So how do I establish  a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around
for a long time.
Do I  copy my favorites to a separate folder?
That's what I did in PS  Elements.
Regards,  Bob S.


Why not just grab them  into a LR collection? That way you don't have to 
copy them anywhere. They are  ready and available in a collection. 

Uh, how to do that, well, consult  Lightroom Help or something.

Marnie :-)   

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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Marnie,
The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection.
The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar quarter's worth
of pictures off of the laptop.
I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM,   wrote:
> In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
> rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
> OK, Here's a  question.
> In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009  best
> photos.
> That way, I can reference and print them without digging them  up.
> With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
> The laptop quickly fills  with new images, and I have to roll off past
> quarters.
> So how do I establish  a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around
> for a long time.
> Do I  copy my favorites to a separate folder?
> That's what I did in PS  Elements.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> 
> Why not just grab them  into a LR collection? That way you don't have to
> copy them anywhere. They are  ready and available in a collection.
>
> Uh, how to do that, well, consult  Lightroom Help or something.
>
> Marnie :-)
>
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> created them. Albert Einstein
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/12/2009 7:24:18 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
Marnie,
The problem  is not getting them into a lightroom collection.
The problem is what happens  when I roll the calandar quarter's worth
of pictures off of the laptop.
I  will lose access to all my favorites for that time period.
Regards,  Bob  S.

===
Additional USB HD (with cases) are very cheap these  days. Or you buy the 
portable case and add a drive. I have one I to back my  photographs to and 
put in a safety deposit box. I am thinking of getting another  one and having 
two rotating back ups going.

I also have another one that  isn't that portable, external SATA linked HD, 
that I store most of my photos  on.

But an USB HD will hook up to both laptop and desktop.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)  And it's possible in LR to have different catalogues 
for  different things, say different drives, though I haven't tried that yet. 
But  it's possible.

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RE: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Bob W

> The question is, how do I copy the photos from different 
> libraries, or catalogues, or whatever they're called into a 
> single set? Preferably doing so in such a way that I'm 

I don't mean to sound rude, but if you don't even know whether you're
dealing with libraries or catalogues are you likely to understand any
answers you're given? You really need to learn more about Lightroom.

You don't need to copy the photos, you just need to create a collection and
add the photos to the collection. A collection is just a set of references
to the files you imported, it's not a copy of the files.

Bob

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of Larry Colen
> Sent: 11 October 2009 21:47
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Lightroom question
> 
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49:54AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote:
> > 
> > >I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As 
> > >part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.
> > 
> > 
> > [snip!]
> > 
> > I didn't see a question...?
> 
> Sorry. The problem with trying to write something when I've 
> been up for 24+ hours:
> 
> I'd like to collect all of those shots, with the processing 
> data that I've already done, and have a special grouping of 
> them all in one place. I'd rather do this without duplicating 
> the raw files that are already there, though I don't mind if 
> the files of processing instructions (for printing) are 
> different than the current iteration of those files.
> 
> 
> The question is, how do I copy the photos from different 
> libraries, or catalogues, or whatever they're called into a 
> single set? Preferably doing so in such a way that I'm 
> collecting the lightroom info about each photo, rather than 
> just duplicating the raw files.
> 
> When I import files, it maintains the directory structure of 
> where each of the photos is, and this may, or may not be a good thing.


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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I wish I could help, but I don't have time to write out what seems to
comprise about 70% of the nine-hour Lightroom workshop I teach. This
material ... image files in the file system and their relationship to
the Lightroom catalog ... seems to be the 95th percentile problem for
most people using Lightroom, at least through the first few weeks  of
use, because they do not understand the fundamentals of a computer
file system and how the Lightroom database interacts with it.

My next Lightroom workshop is scheduled for November 7-8 ... see the
Media Center website at http://www.midpenmedia.org and click on "Check
out our Classes", then search for "Lightroom".

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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/12/2009 2:32:23 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
p...@web-options.com writes:
I don't mean to sound  rude, but if you don't even know whether you're
dealing with libraries or  catalogues are you likely to understand any
answers you're given? You really  need to learn more about Lightroom.

You don't need to copy the photos,  you just need to create a collection and
add the photos to the collection. A  collection is just a set of references
to the files you imported, it's not a  copy of the files.

Bob

=
Speaking of learning more,  I like the book I got just this past weekend.

It's probably more book  than some people want, but it covers EVERYTHING 
and is organized well and well  written. I find Scott Kelby has good starter 
books, but they ARE starter books  so they leave things out. Usually exactly 
the things I want to know. But one  might start with his Lightroom 2 book.

I have only read parts of this one  and flipped through it to see what it 
covers, but so far I would highly  recommend it.

The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2 Book by Martin  Evening.

Once I get through it, or parts of it I should know a lot more  than I do 
now. I've mainly been using Lightroom for cataloguing, but I am now I  am 
intrigued by its Develop module. I also want to know how snapshots work, and  
how I can do my own presets. All that is explained and more. Seems everything 
is  explained.

HTH, whoever, Marnie :-)  (Those that live no where near  Godfrey. Heh.)

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RE: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Bob W
What sort of access do you want to those pictures, and when you say 'roll
the pictures off', what do you mean - are you moving them from the laptop's
internal disk to an external disk and also deleting them from the LR
catalogue, or are you keeping them in the catalogue?

When you import files into LR it adds an entry for each file into its
catalogue. The entry includes a preview of the photograph. You can choose
the resolution of the preview. The catalogue entry also includes a pointer
to the place on disk where the picture is stored. If you move the file
outside of LR to another disk then LR won't be able to find it, but it will
still have the catalogue entry and the preview data. You can continue to use
this for everything except the Develop module.

An option you could consider is to keep the catalogue on the internal disk,
but use external disks to store the photographs. Then very year you just use
a new external disk. The catalogue retains continuity and if you do need to
use the Develop module for any of the photos on disconnected external disks,
just reconnect them.

Bob


> 
> Marnie,
> The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection.
> The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar 
> quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop.
> I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM,   wrote:
> > In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
> > rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
> > OK, Here's a  question.
> > In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009  
> > best photos.
> > That way, I can reference and print them without digging them  up.
> > With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
> > The laptop quickly fills  with new images, and I have to 
> roll off past 
> > quarters.
> > So how do I establish  a place where I can keep the best of 2009 
> > around for a long time.
> > Do I  copy my favorites to a separate folder?
> > That's what I did in PS  Elements.
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> > 
> > Why not just grab them  into a LR collection? That way you 
> don't have 
> > to copy them anywhere. They are  ready and available in a 
> collection.
> >
> > Uh, how to do that, well, consult  Lightroom Help or something.
> >
> > Marnie :-)
> >
> > -
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> > when we created them. Albert Einstein
> >
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Eactivist
There's also online training at  

http://www.kelbytraining.com/

They have 30+ teachers. Most of the  course are on PS, but some are on 
Lightroom. I am impressed they have a online  course done by Katrin Eismann 
"Color to Black and White Artistry," but they seem  to have some beginning and 
advanced LR courses too.

They now have it set  up now at $24.95 a month for all you can take. Since 
that's pretty cheap, sign  up for month, cram in as much as you can. :-)

I am thinking about doing  it once I get more LR conversant. But I haven't 
done it yet, so I can't  personally recommend it. But overall it looks like 
a pretty good  deal.

HTH, too, Marnie :-)  (Now that Godfrey won't answer any and  all PDML LR 
questions. We didn't pay him enough.  Heh.)

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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Godfrey,
Been thinking about it. You gonna do a traveling show someday?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I wish I could help, but I don't have time to write out what seems to
> comprise about 70% of the nine-hour Lightroom workshop I teach. This
> material ... image files in the file system and their relationship to
> the Lightroom catalog ... seems to be the 95th percentile problem for
> most people using Lightroom, at least through the first few weeks  of
> use, because they do not understand the fundamentals of a computer
> file system and how the Lightroom database interacts with it.
>
> My next Lightroom workshop is scheduled for November 7-8 ... see the
> Media Center website at http://www.midpenmedia.org and click on "Check
> out our Classes", then search for "Lightroom".
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Godfrey,
> Been thinking about it. You gonna do a traveling show someday?

If I can find a way for it to pay off, I'd love to.
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob,

I think you see the problem now...

My paradyme with Photoshop was to keep everything in one catalogue on
one machine.  Then it changed to move old images off the laptop (or
desktop) to free up space for newer pictures. At first, this was easy
and I was able to create a "Greatest Hits" album by copying 40 or 50
favorites for 2008 into a separate folder.  This file could remain at
hand while the old photos moved off line.

In mid 2009, I became dissatisfied with Photoshop Elements 5.0 and
decided to move to Lightroom 2.  Here the catalogue system is more
sophisticated and my paradyme for handling images is breaking down.  I
can establish a '09 favorites on the catalogue system, but by mid
2010, most '09 RAW images will be moved off line.  I will lose access
to the pictures without juggling a separate hard disk drive where the
images are stored.  For a select set of '09 images, I would like to
keep the RAW files and sidecar files (or whatever the modifiers are)
on the laptop for easy access in 2010.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> What sort of access do you want to those pictures, and when you say 'roll
> the pictures off', what do you mean - are you moving them from the laptop's
> internal disk to an external disk and also deleting them from the LR
> catalogue, or are you keeping them in the catalogue?
>
> When you import files into LR it adds an entry for each file into its
> catalogue. The entry includes a preview of the photograph. You can choose
> the resolution of the preview. The catalogue entry also includes a pointer
> to the place on disk where the picture is stored. If you move the file
> outside of LR to another disk then LR won't be able to find it, but it will
> still have the catalogue entry and the preview data. You can continue to use
> this for everything except the Develop module.
>
> An option you could consider is to keep the catalogue on the internal disk,
> but use external disks to store the photographs. Then very year you just use
> a new external disk. The catalogue retains continuity and if you do need to
> use the Develop module for any of the photos on disconnected external disks,
> just reconnect them.
>
> Bob
>
>
>>
>> Marnie,
>> The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection.
>> The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar
>> quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop.
>> I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM,   wrote:
>> > In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
>> > rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
>> > OK, Here's a  question.
>> > In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009
>> > best photos.
>> > That way, I can reference and print them without digging them  up.
>> > With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
>> > The laptop quickly fills  with new images, and I have to
>> roll off past
>> > quarters.
>> > So how do I establish  a place where I can keep the best of 2009
>> > around for a long time.
>> > Do I  copy my favorites to a separate folder?
>> > That's what I did in PS  Elements.
>> > Regards,  Bob S.
>> >
>> > 
>> > Why not just grab them  into a LR collection? That way you
>> don't have
>> > to copy them anywhere. They are  ready and available in a
>> collection.
>> >
>> > Uh, how to do that, well, consult  Lightroom Help or something.
>> >
>> > Marnie :-)
>> >
>> > -
>> > We can't solve problems  by using the same kind of thinking we used
>> > when we created them. Albert Einstein
>> >
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
G,
My monthly Calumet Photo catalogue lists courses they are offering.
They sponsor seminars in their locations at an instore meeting room.
See on of their catalogues for seminars in NYC, Boston, Chicago, SF, LA, etc.
(You'll need to up your prices.)
See if you can make a connection out there and then spread out.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Godfrey,
>> Been thinking about it. You gonna do a traveling show someday?
>
> If I can find a way for it to pay off, I'd love to.
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Stan Halpin
So, copy everything to your backup. Select your 2009 images, then the  
"Keepers" sub-set of images. Then flip the selection so now you have  
in your selection all of those which are NOT Keepers. Delete them from  
the HD from within LR. You are left with your Keepers still on your HD.


stan

On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Bob,

I think you see the problem now...

My paradyme with Photoshop was to keep everything in one catalogue on
one machine.  Then it changed to move old images off the laptop (or
desktop) to free up space for newer pictures. At first, this was easy
and I was able to create a "Greatest Hits" album by copying 40 or 50
favorites for 2008 into a separate folder.  This file could remain at
hand while the old photos moved off line.

In mid 2009, I became dissatisfied with Photoshop Elements 5.0 and
decided to move to Lightroom 2.  Here the catalogue system is more
sophisticated and my paradyme for handling images is breaking down.  I
can establish a '09 favorites on the catalogue system, but by mid
2010, most '09 RAW images will be moved off line.  I will lose access
to the pictures without juggling a separate hard disk drive where the
images are stored.  For a select set of '09 images, I would like to
keep the RAW files and sidecar files (or whatever the modifiers are)
on the laptop for easy access in 2010.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Bob W  wrote:
What sort of access do you want to those pictures, and when you say  
'roll
the pictures off', what do you mean - are you moving them from the  
laptop's

internal disk to an external disk and also deleting them from the LR
catalogue, or are you keeping them in the catalogue?

When you import files into LR it adds an entry for each file into its
catalogue. The entry includes a preview of the photograph. You can  
choose
the resolution of the preview. The catalogue entry also includes a  
pointer
to the place on disk where the picture is stored. If you move the  
file
outside of LR to another disk then LR won't be able to find it, but  
it will
still have the catalogue entry and the preview data. You can  
continue to use

this for everything except the Develop module.

An option you could consider is to keep the catalogue on the  
internal disk,
but use external disks to store the photographs. Then very year you  
just use
a new external disk. The catalogue retains continuity and if you do  
need to
use the Develop module for any of the photos on disconnected  
external disks,

just reconnect them.

Bob




Marnie,
The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection.
The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar
quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop.
I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM,   wrote:

In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
OK, Here's a  question.
In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009
best photos.
That way, I can reference and print them without digging them  up.
With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
The laptop quickly fills  with new images, and I have to

roll off past

quarters.
So how do I establish  a place where I can keep the best of 2009
around for a long time.
Do I  copy my favorites to a separate folder?
That's what I did in PS  Elements.
Regards,  Bob S.


Why not just grab them  into a LR collection? That way you

don't have

to copy them anywhere. They are  ready and available in a

collection.


Uh, how to do that, well, consult  Lightroom Help or something.

Marnie :-)

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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Christine Aguila
Bob, will this work:  In Library Module, click on the -/+ by folders and 
make a new folder.  I just did this and I called it 2009 Keepers.  Now go 
through your pics and drag your "keepers" to the new folder you just made 
called 2009 Keepers.  You will get a dialogue box that says Moving a Photo 
on a Disk, and then click move.  Now you have a folder of 2009 Keepers. 
Delete the *non-keeper photos,* which are stored on back-up anyway, if I 
understand you correctly.   I don't know if that helps, but I gave it the 
old one two.  :-)  Cheers, Christine




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Thanks Paul,
I'm looking for a good way to keep the shots or copies up on the
laptop after I roll the originals off the laptop and into back=up
storage.  This keeps me from fumbling around with extra drives all the
time.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Paul Sorenson  
wrote:

Bob -

See my answer to Larry - I think that answers your question, too. Adding
those files to a Collection just tags them in a database so you're not
keeping an additional actual image file.

-p

Bob Sullivan wrote:


OK, Here's a question.
In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best
photos.
That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up.
With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past
quarters.
So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around
for a long time.
Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder?
That's what I did in PS Elements.
Regards, Bob S.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson 
wrote:



On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote:




I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.



[snip!]

I didn't see a question...?

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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-12 Thread Alastair Robertson
or you can pick your favourites - using whatever tool you fancy - 5
star them, use the flag tool, add to a quick collection whatever, then
select them all and click export as catalog - specifying the
destination.  Hey presto, it copies the images along with the
metadata.

When you want to view them navigate to the folder you stored them in
and open the catalog

Alastair

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> Bob, will this work:  In Library Module, click on the -/+ by folders and
> make a new folder.  I just did this and I called it 2009 Keepers.  Now go
> through your pics and drag your "keepers" to the new folder you just made
> called 2009 Keepers.  You will get a dialogue box that says Moving a Photo
> on a Disk, and then click move.  Now you have a folder of 2009 Keepers.
> Delete the *non-keeper photos,* which are stored on back-up anyway, if I
> understand you correctly.   I don't know if that helps, but I gave it the
> old one two.  :-)  Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Lightroom question
>
>
> Thanks Paul,
> I'm looking for a good way to keep the shots or copies up on the
> laptop after I roll the originals off the laptop and into back=up
> storage.  This keeps me from fumbling around with extra drives all the
> time.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Paul Sorenson 
> wrote:
>>
>> Bob -
>>
>> See my answer to Larry - I think that answers your question, too. Adding
>> those files to a Collection just tags them in a database so you're not
>> keeping an additional actual image file.
>>
>> -p
>>
>> Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, Here's a question.
>>> In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best
>>> photos.
>>> That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up.
>>> With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
>>> The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past
>>> quarters.
>>> So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around
>>> for a long time.
>>> Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder?
>>> That's what I did in PS Elements.
>>> Regards, Bob S.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part
>>>>> of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [snip!]
>>>>
>>>> I didn't see a question...?
>>>>
>>>> -Charles
>>>>
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>>>> Minneapolis, MN
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>>>> http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson
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Re: Lightroom question

2009-10-13 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If I can find a way for it to pay off, I'd love to.

You can start with a hat and some tap shoes - think outside the box ;-)

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RE: Lightroom question

2009-10-13 Thread Bob W
I don't think it's designed with that sort of approach in mind, and that's
not a way that I would recommend to anyone, but...

To use a laptop as the day-to-day working catalogue, with offline storage
say on a network drive or a separate external drive, I would probably be
thinking along these lines:

1. for day-to-day use, import onto the laptop
2. for back-ups &archiving, regularly copy the whole lot, pictures,
catalogue, everything to 2 external drives
3. at year end, 
3.1 delete everything from the laptop except the favourites
3.2 get 2 new external drives to use for backups (otherwise you will
overwrite all your non-favourites!)
4. to work on any of the non-favourites, re-import them into the laptop from
the archive

Bob


> I think you see the problem now...
> 
> My paradyme with Photoshop was to keep everything in one 
> catalogue on one machine.  Then it changed to move old images 
> off the laptop (or
> desktop) to free up space for newer pictures. At first, this 
> was easy and I was able to create a "Greatest Hits" album by 
> copying 40 or 50 favorites for 2008 into a separate folder.  
> This file could remain at hand while the old photos moved off line.
> 
> In mid 2009, I became dissatisfied with Photoshop Elements 
> 5.0 and decided to move to Lightroom 2.  Here the catalogue 
> system is more sophisticated and my paradyme for handling 
> images is breaking down.  I can establish a '09 favorites on 
> the catalogue system, but by mid 2010, most '09 RAW images 
> will be moved off line.  I will lose access to the pictures 
> without juggling a separate hard disk drive where the images 
> are stored.  For a select set of '09 images, I would like to 
> keep the RAW files and sidecar files (or whatever the 
> modifiers are) on the laptop for easy access in 2010.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> > What sort of access do you want to those pictures, and when you say 
> > 'roll the pictures off', what do you mean - are you moving 
> them from 
> > the laptop's internal disk to an external disk and also 
> deleting them 
> > from the LR catalogue, or are you keeping them in the catalogue?
> >
> > When you import files into LR it adds an entry for each 
> file into its 
> > catalogue. The entry includes a preview of the photograph. You can 
> > choose the resolution of the preview. The catalogue entry also 
> > includes a pointer to the place on disk where the picture 
> is stored. 
> > If you move the file outside of LR to another disk then LR won't be 
> > able to find it, but it will still have the catalogue entry and the 
> > preview data. You can continue to use this for everything 
> except the Develop module.
> >
> > An option you could consider is to keep the catalogue on 
> the internal 
> > disk, but use external disks to store the photographs. Then 
> very year 
> > you just use a new external disk. The catalogue retains 
> continuity and 
> > if you do need to use the Develop module for any of the photos on 
> > disconnected external disks, just reconnect them.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Marnie,
> >> The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection.
> >> The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar 
> quarter's worth 
> >> of pictures off of the laptop.
> >> I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period.
> >> Regards,  Bob S.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM,   wrote:
> >> > In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M.  Pacific 
> Daylight Time, 
> >> > rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
> >> > OK, Here's a  question.
> >> > In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 
> best and 2009 
> >> > best photos.
> >> > That way, I can reference and print them without digging 
> them  up.
> >> > With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5.
> >> > The laptop quickly fills  with new images, and I have to
> >> roll off past
> >> > quarters.
> >> > So how do I establish  a place where I can keep the best of 2009 
> >> > around for a long time.
> >> > Do I  copy my favorites to a separate folder?
> >> > That's what I did in PS  Elements.
> >> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > Why not just grab them  into a LR collection? That way you
> >> don't have
> >> > to copy them anywhere. They are  ready and available in a
> >> collection.
> >> >
> >> > Uh, how to do that, well, consult  Lightroom Help or something.
> >> >
> >> > Marnie :-)
> >> >
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> >> > when we created them. Albert Einstein
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Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Say, I've a tree of folders in LR. I point to the topmost folder and 
apply a filter. A number of photos come out after the filter. I click on 
one of them.


Here is the question: what do I do in order to open the whole folder 
where this photo is, without any filter applied?


Thanks.

Boris

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Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-10 Thread Eactivist

I am finding Lightroom doesn't seem to  handle subdirectories well. Or the 
way I would like, anyway.

I am using  Windows XP.

For now, in the library, I am just trying to mirror what I  have on disc. As 
I go through and do this I am renaming directories to have more  descriptive 
names. They all have date stamps, I am keeping the date stamps but  adding 
leading names. Like Fremont - 2006 04 13. Since Windows will do long and  
undash 
linked file names now, that will work. And in 1.2 I can use Lightroom to  
rename the directories.

However, I have run into two problems. I've done  some net searching and 
forum searching and haven't found an answer  yet.

When I imported (in location) my subdirectories lost the master  directory 
name. For instance, I have a directory on my hard disk that is labeled  
Yosemite. In that directory are subdirectories that are date stamped, but  
Lightroom 
just imported the subdirectories and I lost the master directory/name,  
Yosemite.

In other instance, I created a subdirectory through Lightroom  in an existing 
directory and moved photos from the master directory to the  subdirectory. 
But although the pictures show up in the Lightroom library in the  
subdirectory, 
they also show up in the master directory. I don't like that. I  have looked 
in the actual directory on disc and have found they HAVE been moved,  but they 
still show up in the master directory. Doing a remove (without delete)  from 
library for the master directory will remove them from both the master  
directory and the subdirectory in the library. So I've had to synchronize  
folders 
and it puts the pics showing both back in the subdirectory and the  master 
directory.

I don't like the way like Lightroom handles  subdirectories. I may have to 
resort to moving all subdirectories out to become  their own "master" 
directories.

1. Is there any way to show the master  directory name for a subdirectory 
when importing?
2. Is there any way to have  the pics in the library only show in the 
subdirectory and not in the master  directory as well?

TIA, Marnie aka Doe  Sorry for the long  explanation, kind of hard to figure 
out how to word these  questions.

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Another Lightroom Question

2007-06-22 Thread Eactivist
Apparently in Lightroom I can import the whole  Elements 5, "library" with 
tags and all that I have already setup. From the  organizer section, if I am 
not 
using exactly the right words, well, that's what  I mean.

Anyone done this? I am debating doing this or just resetting up a  library in 
Lightroom from scratch. I don't think I can reimport it back into  Elements 5 
if I change anything in Lightroom. It would be a short cut,  though.

Well, any info. on this appreciated.

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Lightroom question (Godfrey?)

2007-12-31 Thread Thibouille
I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library.
The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg.

I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg.
I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format.

Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself
with mighty Delphi ?

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John  wrote:

> I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my memory 
> card.

Not sure why that would be considered a mistake; I consider it a
normal workflow.

> But where the hell are my actual DNG files?

Right-click on a thumbnail, "Show in Explorer".

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-19 Thread David Parsons
Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.

If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it
and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John  wrote:
> Not even off topic here this time ...
>
> I got my laptop out to exercise it before the PPofNC convention and
> re-installed software - Photoshop CS5, Lightroom 3.2 and Corel Painter 11.
>
> This time when I installed Lightroom I managed to do so without it trying to
> catalog every image on both hard-drives.
>
> But I am having another problem ...
>
> I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my
> memory card. I can see the images IN LIGHTROOM. I can do all sorts of
> lightroom stuff to them ...
>
> But where the hell are my actual DNG files?
>
> Like if I wanted to open an image with Photoshop so I could convert it to a
> PSD file I can open with Painter?
>
> NO, I am NOT going to upgrade lightroom to the latest version if I can't
> ever get the version I already paid for to work.
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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons  wrote:

> Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
> files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
> you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.

I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you
add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot
themselves in the foot.

> If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it
> and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer.

The one hitch about "Go to Folder in Library" is that, by default,
Lightroom suppresses the display of unnecessary parent folders in the
folder hierarchy, so it still might not be obvious where you are. The
higher levels can be shown by right-clicking on a folder and selecting
"Show Parent Folder" until you have enough context.

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread David Parsons
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons  
> wrote:
>
>> Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
>> files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
>> you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.
>
> I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you
> add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot
> themselves in the foot.

Hence, the part about Add.

>
>> If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it
>> and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer.
>
> The one hitch about "Go to Folder in Library" is that, by default,
> Lightroom suppresses the display of unnecessary parent folders in the
> folder hierarchy, so it still might not be obvious where you are. The
> higher levels can be shown by right-clicking on a folder and selecting
> "Show Parent Folder" until you have enough context.
>
Show in Explorer shows unambiguously where the files are in the file
system, because it opens File Explorer.


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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons  
> wrote:
>
>> Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
>> files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
>> you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.
>
> I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you
> add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot
> themselves in the foot.

The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(

I'm not ready for full time teaching yet.

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:27 AM, David Parsons  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
>>> files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
>>> you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.
>>
>> I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you
>> add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot
>> themselves in the foot.
>
> Hence, the part about Add.

Huh?

My point is that it doesn't make sense to talk about "Add" from a
memory card. See page 23 of the manual:
http://helpx.adobe.com/pdf/lightroom_reference.pdf
"Note: The Add and Move import methods are not available when
importing from a camera or camera card."

> Show in Explorer shows unambiguously where the files are in the file
> system, because it opens File Explorer.

I agree, and suggested that in my reply to John. I suggested it
instead of "Go to Folder in Library" because I thought Lightroom
hiding parent folders might be confusing.

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
> exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(

I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
"Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
camera or camera card." Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
>> exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(
>
> I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
> "Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
> camera or camera card." Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?

Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4.

When the card was removed, all the images were marked with missing
symbols, but of course thumbnail previews had all been created. The
edits I did were saved back on the card before I removed it. I also
couldn't convince Lr to reimport so I could do it right. Very
frustrating. I'm sure I was doing something really dumb, but had no
time to work it out then.

I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called "Kingston"
yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting
me. "Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher." :) There doesn't seem to be
a delete function for Folders.

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called "Kingston"
> yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting
> me. "Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher." :) There doesn't seem to be
> a delete function for Folders.

Right-click on it and "Remove"?

http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/create-folders.html#delete_folders

I would expect removing the folder (and hence the photos) from the
Lightroom catalog would also allow it to re-import.

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called "Kingston"
>> yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting
>> me. "Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher." :) There doesn't seem to be
>> a delete function for Folders.
>
> Right-click on it and "Remove"?
>
> http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/create-folders.html#delete_folders
>
> I would expect removing the folder (and hence the photos) from the
> Lightroom catalog would also allow it to re-import.

Well I was right-clicking on the parent folder and no menu appears.
When I just now right-clicked on the also missing child folder I was
able to delete that, and so the parent disappeared too.

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bill

On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:


The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(


I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
"Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
camera or camera card." Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?


Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4.

When the card was removed, all the images were marked with missing
symbols, but of course thumbnail previews had all been created. The
edits I did were saved back on the card before I removed it. I also
couldn't convince Lr to reimport so I could do it right. Very
frustrating. I'm sure I was doing something really dumb, but had no
time to work it out then.


Unclick the option that says "Don't Import Suspected Duplicates"



I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called "Kingston"
yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting
me. "Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher." :) There doesn't seem to be
a delete function for Folders.

Right click on the folder and click remove. After that, you should get 
an option to remove the folder from the catalog or to delete it entirely.
If you don't get the remove entirely option, remove it from the catalog 
in Lightroom and then delete it manually from whatever location it has 
peen written to.


bill

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM 
directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card 
with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would 
simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move import 
methods. 

Godfrey

>> On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker  
 wrote:
 
 The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
 exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(
>>> 
>>> I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
>>> "Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
>>> camera or camera card." Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?
>> 
>> Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4.

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Walker
This card came out of a K-5. Lr apparently glitched.


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM 
> directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card 
> with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would 
> simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move import 
> methods.
>
> Godfrey
>
>>> On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker  
> wrote:
>
> The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
> exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(

 I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
 "Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
 camera or camera card." Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?
>>>
>>> Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4.
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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
In my experience, it's much more likely that the card had some issue with its 
file system at that time. 

It hardly matters, but in every case like this I've examined when I was 
teaching and doing client support, the issues were never resolved to be a LR 
fault, they were always something in the card, the camera, the cable, the 
reader, etc. 

If LR allowed Move or In Place mode operations, something about the card or in 
the chain of operations that mounted it did not inform LR that it was a DCIM 
storage device. It would be interesting to know what that was. :-)

Godfrey


> On Aug 20, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> This card came out of a K-5. Lr apparently glitched.
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM 
>> directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card 
>> with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would 
>> simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move 
>> import methods.

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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread John

On 8/19/2014 10:32 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John  wrote:


I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my memory 
card.


Not sure why that would be considered a mistake; I consider it a
normal workflow.



It was a mistake for two reasons:

1. My photos didn't end up where I told Lightroom to put them.
2. I couldn't find my photos with Adobe Bridge or Windoze search.


But where the hell are my actual DNG files?


Right-click on a thumbnail, "Show in Explorer".



Ok. Now I know where they are. All I got to do is figure out how to make 
Lightroom put 'em where I wanted 'em in the first place.


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Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
In Lightroom, library mode, grid view, select the files. Then drag them to the 
folder in the Folders panel you want them to be located in. LR will do the move 
operation and update the database properly. 

Godfrey

> On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:04 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Ok. Now I know where they are. All I got to do is figure out how to make 
> Lightroom put 'em where I wanted 'em in the first place.

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LightRoom question/idea

2013-10-31 Thread Boris Liberman

Hello, wise people of PDML :-).

I have an idea/question. Say, in LightRoom Library module I set up a 
filter and see some pics. I sort them some, mark them some, etc. Then I 
decide to set up another filter, may be from different folder, may be 
from different parameters... I sort some more pics and so on.


Is there a way in which I can easily go back to my previous filter 
(state of Library module window)? Is there a notion of tabbed Library 
module browsing? Are the plugins/addons that facilitate such convenience?


Thanks.

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Re: Lightroom question

2014-06-17 Thread Paul Sorenson
Will this work?

Open the file with her tweaks
Create a develop preset
Open your original RAW file and create a virtual copy
Apply the preset of her tweaks to the new copy

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Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 16, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> My friend Candice wanted to try her hand at processing one of my photos in 
> lightroom. I exported several virtual copies of it onto a catalog on a usb 
> stick. She imported that catalog, made the tweaks she wanted and saved the 
> catalog back to the usb stick.
> 
> I’d like to import her edits to the file as virtual copies along side my 
> edits, but I seem to either have the option of copying the files to a new 
> location, or importing the edits leaving the files in place. If I try the 
> latter, unmounting the stick, then pointing at the raw file already on my 
> disk, it says it can’t have two things pointing to the same raw file.
> 
> How do I solve this problem of merging edits as virtual copies?
> 
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Re: Lightroom question

2014-06-17 Thread Stanley Halpin
I may not understand the question. But it would seem that if you do an 
import-from-catalog you will bring in her (changed) files. Or just the changes 
to the files. If you don’t want to lose your originals in the process, make a 
duplicate first. The re-import will “overwrite" the original but your duplicate 
should stay as it was.

stan

On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> My friend Candice wanted to try her hand at processing one of my photos in 
> lightroom. I exported several virtual copies of it onto a catalog on a usb 
> stick. She imported that catalog, made the tweaks she wanted and saved the 
> catalog back to the usb stick.
> 
> I’d like to import her edits to the file as virtual copies along side my 
> edits, but I seem to either have the option of copying the files to a new 
> location, or importing the edits leaving the files in place. If I try the 
> latter, unmounting the stick, then pointing at the raw file already on my 
> disk, it says it can’t have two things pointing to the same raw file.
> 
> How do I solve this problem of merging edits as virtual copies?
> 
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Re: Lightroom question

2016-12-15 Thread Larry Colen



Bill wrote:

I'm probably missing something obvious, but in Lightroom 6 (not CC),
when rating images by star, there is a banner popup that indicates an
image has just been given a rating.
Can it be made to go away?


If you wait about a second, it will go away.  If you don't want the 
notification at all, I'm sure you can find out if it can be turned off 
by watching an hour and a half of instructional videos, because that is 
so much easier than an indexed written manual.





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Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Bill
I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When 
I am opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update 
Camera Raw to maintain full compatibility or some such.

There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.

Short of buying into the subscription version or changing software, 
neither of which I am prepared to do, is there any way to make this go 
away permanently?


thanks

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Dumb Lightroom Question

2020-05-04 Thread Bill
So, somehow I have managed to not have any previews in Lightroom, so 
what is happening is that as I scroll through my pictures, it is 
building previews on the fly.
As you can imagine, this is quite time consuming, as I have to scroll 
through the directory, wait for what is on the screen to build, and then 
scroll down to another blank section of screen and wait for previews to 
build, etc.


Is there a way to get Lightroom to point to a directory and build 
previews without going to the effort of scrolling through all 36000 or 
so images on my hard drive?


thanks for any help..

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RE: Lightroom Question

2018-08-10 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Hi Bill,

I suspect someone on the list probably has a more detailed knowledge of 
this question. But maybe a small tidbit that I know could be helpful.


I am not sure what you meant by the "wrong platform": Mac vs. Windows or
LR CC vs earlier versions.


There is a tool "Adobe Lens Profile Creator" available for download for
both Mac and Windows:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#Adobe_Lens_Profile_Creator

What I don't know if this profile would work for the earlier versions of 
LR. More over, - I am not sure if this profile creator allows you to enter 
"unknown" lenses in the database. From what I understand, - it allows 
saving lens profiles for corrections in LR, but maybe it would also allow 
adding a new lens. You can try.


https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/lens-profile-support.html


Cheers,

Igor


Bill Fri, 10 Aug 2018 08:57:46 -0700 wrote:

I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but 
unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get 
Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible?



thanks


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Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-10 Thread Jostein

Bill,
I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional 
optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to write 
specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and 
well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO.

https://www.lenstagger.com/

Jostein

Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is 
the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill



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Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-10 Thread lrc
It would be awesome if there was a collection of these lens profiles someplace. 
 Lr 6 doesn't even have one for the fa50/1.4

On August 10, 2018 2:14:02 PM PDT, Jostein  wrote:
>Bill,
>I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional 
>optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to
>write 
>specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and 
>well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO.
>https://www.lenstagger.com/
>
>Jostein
>
>Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
>> I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect
>any 
>> more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
>> "unknown".
>> I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it
>is 
>> the wrong platform.
>> My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
>> correctly, or is this even possible?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> bill
>> 
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Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread John Sessoms

Do you recon it would work with Adobe Bridge CS6?

On 8/10/2018 17:14, Jostein wrote:

Bill,
I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional optical 
setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to write specific lens 
designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and well worth the dollars 
you can spare, IMHO.

https://www.lenstagger.com/

Jostein

Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more 
updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the 
wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or 
is this even possible?


thanks

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Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread Jos de Fotograaf

Hi Bill,
Profile I do not know, but lens naming I do as follows:

I have a picture taken with a K5 and this Sigma 10-20mm this name is not 
known by light room,
When I read its metadata with the little program "PhotoMe", it shows 
lens ID: 3 44
When I import this photo into lightroom, the lens is named: "Sigma or 
Tamron lens"

Many Sigma lenses have the lens ID "3 44"

My understanding is that LR translates the ID "3 44" into the name 
"Sigma or Tamron lens"


LR uses its file "cameraraw.dll" to do this.

When I open this cameraraw file with the little program HxD, I found the 
"3 44" and the wording "Sigma or Tamron lens" (find the lens section by 
using the search function for "Sigma" or Pentax")
As I have only one Sigma lens in possession with the ID "3 44" , I 
changed the wording in the cameraraw file in: "Sigma 10-20mm /4-5.6 EX"
From now on, my pictures taken with this lens, get the correct name at 
importing.


I do this in lightroom CC clasic, but did it also in LR5.

In your case: find the lens code of your lens (with PhotoMe or other 
program).
In the camera raw file, change the lens ID of a lens that you are not 
having or using.

See what name comes out when when importing a picture taken with that lens.
Change that name in the cameraraw file.
It can take some trial and error the get it right.
Greetz, Jos


On 8/10/2018 5:56 PM, Bill wrote:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

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Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
Oh Bill make a copy of your old cameraraw file befor you start 
modifiying it!


On 8/11/2018 11:27 PM, Jos de Fotograaf wrote:

Hi Bill,
Profile I do not know, but lens naming I do as follows:

I have a picture taken with a K5 and this Sigma 10-20mm this name is 
not known by light room,
When I read its metadata with the little program "PhotoMe", it shows 
lens ID: 3 44
When I import this photo into lightroom, the lens is named: "Sigma or 
Tamron lens"

Many Sigma lenses have the lens ID "3 44"

My understanding is that LR translates the ID "3 44" into the name 
"Sigma or Tamron lens"


LR uses its file "cameraraw.dll" to do this.

When I open this cameraraw file with the little program HxD, I found 
the "3 44" and the wording "Sigma or Tamron lens" (find the lens 
section by using the search function for "Sigma" or Pentax")
As I have only one Sigma lens in possession with the ID "3 44" , I 
changed the wording in the cameraraw file in: "Sigma 10-20mm /4-5.6 EX"
From now on, my pictures taken with this lens, get the correct name at 
importing.


I do this in lightroom CC clasic, but did it also in LR5.

In your case: find the lens code of your lens (with PhotoMe or other 
program).
In the camera raw file, change the lens ID of a lens that you are not 
having or using.
See what name comes out when when importing a picture taken with that 
lens.

Change that name in the cameraraw file.
It can take some trial and error the get it right.
Greetz, Jos


On 8/10/2018 5:56 PM, Bill wrote:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect 
any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed 
as "unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

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Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread Jos de Fotograaf

Hi Jostijn,
Interesting option
Is my understanding right, that I have to add the information manually 
to each picture, sometimes in batch?

Greetz, Jos

On 8/10/2018 11:14 PM, Jostein wrote:

Bill,
I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional 
optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to 
write specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, 
and well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO.

https://www.lenstagger.com/

Jostein

Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect 
any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed 
as "unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

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Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread Jostein

Yes.
The LensTagger plugin presents you with a screen where you can fill in 
the relevant data, and save it as a preset.
When you run the command, it is actually executed by another program, 
the exiftool by Phil Harvey. Afterwards, you need to update metadata 
from file in LR to see the change.


To run the plugin on multiple files, you just select them in the Library 
module before starting the plugin. The processing capacity seems to be a 
max limit of between 30 and 50 files somewhere.


Jostein

Den 11.08.2018 23:38, skrev Jos de Fotograaf:

Hi Jostijn,
Interesting option
Is my understanding right, that I have to add the information manually 
to each picture, sometimes in batch?

Greetz, Jos

On 8/10/2018 11:14 PM, Jostein wrote:

Bill,
I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional 
optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to 
write specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, 
and well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO.

https://www.lenstagger.com/

Jostein

Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect 
any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed 
as "unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

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Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-13 Thread Mark C
I'm using Photoshop CS6 with ACR 9.1.1 and also LIghtroom v6.0. I only 
have two newer lenses - DFA 28-105 and DFA 15-30 - but profiles for both 
seem to be supported, even though Adobe says they are not.  Screenshots:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/lens-correction-in-acr-9?blog=9


The only thing is that neither  ACR or Lightroom detect the unsupported 
lenses. When I check "enable profile correction" nothing happens but if 
I then select Pentax under "Make"both ACR and LR detect the lens at that 
point and load the profile. The officially supported lenses are 
automatically detected without the lens make being entered.


This does not make the lens name appear in the file's exif data, but I 
think that running the raw files through an up to date version of Adobe 
DNG converter will add that info.


Mark




On 8/10/2018 11:56 AM, Bill wrote:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill




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Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-01 Thread Larry Colen


I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a "Folders" 
panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. I've got 
three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that whenever I 
change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel moves to the 
top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, moving folders from 
the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order of the drives in the 
panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not strong enough to figure 
out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 



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Another Pentax/Lightroom question

2008-12-30 Thread Mark Erickson
Here's a question for you

With CS2/Bridge, my image input workflow went like this:  

1) Take images using ACR raw format.
2) Point Bridge at my SD card 
3) Open all images using ACR (3.7, I think)
4) Save all as DNG to an "incoming" folder

ACR did a nice job of compressing the DNGs when it saved.  My K10D images
were typically ~16MB out of the camera, and would be down to around 10MB or
11MB with nondestructive compression applied.

When I try to do a similar operation using Lightroom 2.2, it appears that
Lightroom just copies the images untouched into the distination "incoming"
directory without compressing them.

Anyone know how to change this?  Should I just shoot using PEF instead?

Thanks,

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yet another Lightroom question

2008-04-09 Thread Henk Terhell
Also I'm trying out now Lightroom as possible replacement of Elements on
my new PC. In Elements I used to store my converted (exported) JPG's
along with the DNG files in the same folder. I am used to identify
folders based on subject and subfolders by date taken. Elements does
import from card folders by date and also saves the converted JPG by
default in the same folder unless you select to save for web w/o EXIF.
In LR I see so far no easy way to do thisin the same folder and upon
saving the JPG it is hard to find back the folder in which the DNG file
is located. Another point is that in Elements the JPG file size can be
set before saving, or the file size is indicated for the selected
percentage of original, which I haven't figure out how to do in LR.
Although LR has more handles in adjusting RAW's, I find Elements
conversion menu easier to access than LR develop menu, as there is no
need for scrolling on my 1024 by 768 screen. But no doubt I'm still on
the bottom of the learning curve here.

Henk


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Lightroom: Question about Clarity

2008-04-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Everyone:

I have lack-of-clarity about Lightroom's Clarity function.  This is from 
Help:  Clarity:  "Adds depth to an image by increasing local contrast."  I 
don't have an understanding of "local" contrast. What does "local contrast" 
mean?  What is added depth?

Also, I seem to like the photo better when greatly increasing the clarity 
slider.  Fine.  But what's NOT happening in-camera (for example, do I need 
to be making smarter exposure decisions etc) that requires me to add depth 
by way of increased local contrast during processing?

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Re: Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman"

Subject: Simple LightRoom Question



Hi!

Say, I've a tree of folders in LR. I point to the topmost folder and apply 
a filter. A number of photos come out after the filter. I click on one of 
them.


Here is the question: what do I do in order to open the whole folder where 
this photo is, without any filter applied?





I believe in the develop module, just click reset.
When you want to reapply the filter, synchronize that file with one that has 
the filter applied.
Or, and I just tried this and it works: make a virtual copy and reset it. 
This leaves the "original" alone.


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Re: Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Say, I've a tree of folders in LR. I point to the topmost folder and apply a
> filter. A number of photos come out after the filter. I click on one of
> them.
>
> Here is the question: what do I do in order to open the whole folder where
> this photo is, without any filter applied?

Not sure I understand the question. Let me restate to try to make it clear.

Assuming you are in the Library module with "2009" chosen in the
Folders panel, the top of your 2009 image file hierarchy. You use the
Filter bar in Grid mode to select a subset of the image files in the
Grid view. You click on one of the images that meets all the filter
criteria, now you want to change your choice of images to display to
the ones contained in the folder that contains that image as well as
disable all filtering so you can see everything in that particular
folder.

Very easy:

- Right-Click (control-click on Mac OS X) on the image file and choose
the "Show in Folder in Library" command.

- If there are filters selected in the Filter bar (LR might remember
the last filter you used in that folder, if you ever did), click the
"None" switch in the Filter bar.

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Re: Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"

Subject: Re: Simple LightRoom Question



On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
Say, I've a tree of folders in LR. I point to the topmost folder and 
apply a

filter. A number of photos come out after the filter. I click on one of
them.

Here is the question: what do I do in order to open the whole folder 
where

this photo is, without any filter applied?


Not sure I understand the question. Let me restate to try to make it 
clear.


I know for a fact that I didn't understand it.

William Robb 



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Re: Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Godfrey, you understood me exactly right... Despite my 
clumsiness again... The "None" switch was the culprit.


Thanks!

Boris


On 1/15/2010 5:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Assuming you are in the Library module with "2009" chosen in the
Folders panel, the top of your 2009 image file hierarchy. You use the
Filter bar in Grid mode to select a subset of the image files in the
Grid view. You click on one of the images that meets all the filter
criteria, now you want to change your choice of images to display to
the ones contained in the folder that contains that image as well as
disable all filtering so you can see everything in that particular
folder.

Very easy:

- Right-Click (control-click on Mac OS X) on the image file and choose
the "Show in Folder in Library" command.

- If there are filters selected in the Filter bar (LR might remember
the last filter you used in that folder, if you ever did), click the
"None" switch in the Filter bar.




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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 10, 2007, at 7:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am finding Lightroom doesn't seem to  handle subdirectories well.  
> Or the
> way I would like, anyway.

Most probably "the way I would like" is the more accurate  
expression...  ;-)

> ...
> 1. Is there any way to show the master  directory name for a  
> subdirectory
> when importing?
> 2. Is there any way to have  the pics in the library only show in the
> subdirectory and not in the master  directory as well?

1:
In the Library module, the Folder panel is an exact reflection of the  
file system on the hard drive. How you import the folder structure  
influences what you see there, however.

Let's say you have a structure on disk like this:

2006 - All My Pictures
Misc Junk Photos
Work In Progress
   20060105 - Birthday Party
   20060321 - San Jose - Trip to Opera
   20061019 - Drive to Albuquerque
Projects
   20060411 - My First Exhibit
   20060923 - client portrait shoot in sf
   20061202 - ebay horrible old Canon consumer lenses

If you want that whole folder tree to import into Lightroom, but  
don't want the Misc Junk Photos branch to appear, Import in place  
starting with the top level directory ("2006 - All My Pictures"). In  
the import dialog which comes up, exclude the "Misc Junk Photos" sub- 
directory tree. Manipulations of the directory tree in Lightroom's  
Folder panel will be reflected from that point on in the file system  
exactly.

(This is probably obvious, but it should be stated for completeness:
In the Library module, the Collections panel is maintained only in  
the Lightroom catalog and does not in and of itself reflect the file  
system at all.  Only the Folder panel view reflects the file system  
structure.)

2:
There behavior of Lightroom is to show all files in a directory tree  
starting at the root and recursing down to the leaf nodes. So if you  
imported the above and clicked on the "Work In Progress" node, it  
would show all the files in the three subdirectories in the Grid  
view. If you click on any of the leaf nodes, you will see only the  
files in that leaf node. This implies a file system structure that  
puts image files ONLY in the leaf nodes works best, rather than  
having a set of directories containing both image files and directory  
nodes, so that you can see each set of files independent of the  
contents of subdirectory trees that might exist. (You can look at a  
combined Grid view of, say, "20060105 - Birthday Party" and "20060411  
- My First Exhibit" by Alt-Clicking just those two leaf nodes in the  
Folder view, excluding the others.)

The above directory structure is the way I've been organizing my work  
for some time even prior to using Lightroom. It probably isn't  
exactly what you wanted. However, it works well given Lightroom's  
Folder panel display behavior.

Godfrey

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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/10/2007 8:58:05 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The above directory structure  is the way I've been organizing my work  
for some time even prior to  using Lightroom. It probably isn't  
exactly what you wanted. However,  it works well given Lightroom's  
Folder panel display  behavior.

Godfrey


Thanks, Godfrey. Going to have  to print out what you said and read it over 
and see if it makes sense to me re  my experience. Re understand about 
collections and folders, which is why right  now I just want to mirror what's 
on disc.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> ...The above directory structure  is the way I've been organizing  
>> my work
>> for some time even prior to  using Lightroom. It probably isn't
>> exactly what you wanted. However,  it works well given Lightroom's
>> Folder panel display  behavior.
>
> Thanks, Godfrey. Going to have  to print out what you said and read  
> it over
> and see if it makes sense to me re  my experience. Re understand about
> collections and folders, which is why right  now I just want to  
> mirror what's on disc.

A quick example:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/LR-folder_v_files.jpg

On the left is the display of the file system as seen in the Finder  
on Mac OS X. On the right is the Lightroom view of the file system in  
the Folders panel. Note that I've chosen to only import certain parts  
of the 2007 directory tree into the database, and all the  
subdirectories are leaf nodes ... there's no enabled disclosure  
triangle for them in the Lightroom view, they are seen in the  
FilmStrip panel on the bottom of the display or in the Grid view.

In the Finder view, clicking on the disclosure triangle would show  
the image files icons listed in each directory.

(Windows Explorer can produce a view very similar to this List View  
in the Finder, but there are some subtle differences in how it  
behaves relative to the Mac OS X Finder. Lightroom behaves the same  
on both, far as I can tell.)

- If I manipulate the file system structure in the Finder, Lightroom  
will automatically update the Folder view to accommodate those  
changes if the directory tree is local and not to another volume. If  
I add files in the Finder, I need to tell Lightroom to synchronize  
the Folder view and import new files.

- If I manipulate the Folders/files in Lightroom, the Finder  
immediately reflects the changes.

Godfrey

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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/10/2007 10:56:51 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- If I manipulate the  Folders/files in Lightroom, the Finder  
immediately reflects the  changes.

Godfrey



Er, cough, er, yes, Godfrey.  I get all that -- the difference between the 
library and OS folders. I just  needed to print out your post because it was 
dense to read, not because I don't  get it. Although you may have forgotten, I 
am 
computer programmer. I may not  know assembly language, and I may not 
understand some hardware things, like how  a RAID card works, but I am highly 
highly 
computer literate.

Although  maybe it will help someone else. :-)

Okay, it seems Lightroom will not  behave the way I want when it comes to 
subdirectories. I made the mistake of not  importing the top directories, 
although Lightroom didn't seem to allow me to.  But I imported my Elements 5 
catalogue and that is probably how top directories  got skipped. I would prefer 
that 
subdirectories pictures only show in the  subdirectory film strips not in the 
top directory film strips. The way Lightroom  currently works, it makes my 
subdirectory structure sort of useless. So I guess  I will have to make all 
subdirectories top directories.

I already see two  features that I wish Lightroom had.

1. An option/preference that can be  selected to make pictures only show in 
subdirectory folders, not top  directories.
2. A batch synchronize folders routine. Where one can pick out a  HD or a top 
directory and have Lightroom synchronize the whole thing. Import  pictures 
added since the last time the batch synchronization has been run. In my  
current 
library setup, for instance, my drive J is not at the top level. If I  could 
have drive J at the top level (with no film strip), then I could click on  it 
and synchronize folders and it could synchronize the whole drive. So some way  
to do a batch synchronization like that would be nice.

Thanks for your  answers though, you answered my questions in your first post.

Marnie  :-)

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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I made the mistake of not  importing the top directories,
> although Lightroom didn't seem to allow me to.

If you've already got the subdirectories imported, click the "+"  
button in the Folder panel and select the top level directory. It  
will re-sort the subdirectory tree properly even if you then click  
"cancel", I believe.

> 2. A batch synchronize folders routine. Where one can pick out a   
> HD or a top
> directory and have Lightroom synchronize the whole thing.

That's exactly what it does now ...

Click +, look at the import dialog, turn off everything you don't  
want, and it will bring in the entire tree and synchronize to current  
state.

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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/11/2007 8:25:51 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:44 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I made the mistake of not  importing  the top directories,
> although Lightroom didn't seem to allow me  to.

If you've already got the subdirectories imported, click the  "+"  
button in the Folder panel and select the top level directory.  It  
will re-sort the subdirectory tree properly even if you then  click  
"cancel", I believe.

> 2. A batch synchronize folders  routine. Where one can pick out a   
> HD or a top
>  directory and have Lightroom synchronize the whole thing.

That's exactly  what it does now ...

Click +, look at the import dialog, turn off  everything you don't  
want, and it will bring in the entire tree and  synchronize to current  
state.

Godfrey

==
Aha!  Thanks, Godfrey. Will definitely try it. (Didn't seem to do anything in 
1.0, but  must admit haven't thoroughly explored 1.2 yet.)

Marnie  :-)

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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 11, 2007, at 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Aha!  Thanks, Godfrey. Will definitely try it. (Didn't seem to do  
> anything in
> 1.0, but  must admit haven't thoroughly explored 1.2 yet.)

It did the same thing in v1.0 and v1.1. I used this facility several  
times as I learned how to import and manage my directories of photo  
files ... :-)

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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-13 Thread Eactivist
FYI.

Just a follow up. I have a hard disk  dedicated to photos, and a master 
directory on that disk, labeled My Pictures  (an XP thing). All other pictures 
are 
in subdirectories to that and some of  those directories have subdirectories 
as well.

I finally managed to solve  my problem by importing the top directory, My 
Pictures. I imported into my  existing Lightroom library. Now all my master 
directories and subdirectories  show in Lightroom's library. Since I had 
already 
imported most of the  subdirectories, it only took about 20-30 minutes, I 
imagine starting from  scratch it might take an hour to an hour and a half. 

In the XP version  of Lightroom how do to this is rather non-obvious. Because 
normally it looks  like it won't let you import a directory that only 
contains subdirectories but  no photos, as the import dialog will show 
"Supported 
files" in the file type and  a directory without picture has no supported 
files. 
However, there is another  button below the import button that says "Choose 
Selected" that only is enabled  when the chosen import IS a directory without 
pictures. So highlighting a  directory will enable that button and then one can 
import a directory without  pictures. I am not totally positive that button 
was there in version  1.0.

And probably everyone using Lightroom, XP version, knew this. But  just in 
case someone read this thread and didn't, that is how it  works.

Later, Marnie  :-)

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Re: Lightroom Question -- Subdirectories

2007-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Good to hear you've got it sussed out now, Marnie. :-)

Can't speak to the oddities on the Windows XP platform, the facility  
to do this has been there all along in LR running on Mac OS X.

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