Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[Daniel J. Matyola]

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On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 6:26 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> > On Mar 23, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> >
> > Well documented.
>
> Thank you.
>
> > You’re probably lucky it blocked a road. That creates urgency which
> public utilities seem to need.
>
> One advantage of living on Highway 9, the main thoroughfare of SLV is that
> repairs to the road, power, or comm are prioritized.  Unfortunately, there
> was so much damage to so many roads on Tuesday that I had many friends who
> couldn’t get home. Several towns were cut off.
>
> My neighbor (the one whose house caught the tree last week) called me
> Tuesday afternoon and said that he couldn’t get home.  They had stopped him
> just before the fallen tree, he tried to go around the other way, but those
> roads were closed due to fallen trees as well.  I told him about the trail
> from the road just before where the road block was to the bridge past our
> houses, and when he called to tell me that he was able to get home, I told
> my boss I was leaving work while I knew that I could still probably get
> home.
>
> I parked my car at the church, just before the closure and discretely
> walked past the person watching the road closure. I figured that if I
> couldn’t get past on the road, I could do the trail, but it was dark, muddy
> and I didn’t have a good flashlight.  I’d gotten 10-20 yards past her when
> she called out at me and said I couldn’t go.  I said I lived just around
> the corner, and she said she’d walk me there.
>
> As I mentioned earlier, before taking photos I grabbed my hard hat and
> high-viz vest.  About the time I was finishing up, she had just walked
> someone past, came up to me and asked if I knew who was in charge.
>
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[Larry Colen]

> On Mar 23, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Well documented.

Thank you.

> You’re probably lucky it blocked a road. That creates urgency which public 
> utilities seem to need.

One advantage of living on Highway 9, the main thoroughfare of SLV is that 
repairs to the road, power, or comm are prioritized.  Unfortunately, there was 
so much damage to so many roads on Tuesday that I had many friends who couldn’t 
get home. Several towns were cut off. 

My neighbor (the one whose house caught the tree last week) called me Tuesday 
afternoon and said that he couldn’t get home.  They had stopped him just before 
the fallen tree, he tried to go around the other way, but those roads were 
closed due to fallen trees as well.  I told him about the trail from the road 
just before where the road block was to the bridge past our houses, and when he 
called to tell me that he was able to get home, I told my boss I was leaving 
work while I knew that I could still probably get home.

I parked my car at the church, just before the closure and discretely walked 
past the person watching the road closure. I figured that if I couldn’t get 
past on the road, I could do the trail, but it was dark, muddy and I didn’t 
have a good flashlight.  I’d gotten 10-20 yards past her when she called out at 
me and said I couldn’t go.  I said I lived just around the corner, and she said 
she’d walk me there.  

As I mentioned earlier, before taking photos I grabbed my hard hat and high-viz 
vest.  About the time I was finishing up, she had just walked someone past, 
came up to me and asked if I knew who was in charge.

 
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[Paul Stenquist]

Well documented. You’re probably lucky it blocked a road. That creates urgency 
which public utilities seem to need.

Paul

> On Mar 23, 2023, at 5:50 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2023, at 2:41 PM, Comcast  wrote:
>> 
>> Ouch! Serious damage. That looks like a several day outage. Light candles! 
>> (Or curse the darkness.)
> 
> Surprisingly, it was only out for about 24 hours, unlike the tree the 
> previous Tuesday which caused it to be out for a few days, and then again 
> most of the following Sunday.
> 
> I apologize for doing bare minimum editing and processing, but here are my 
> photos of them working on the tree:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720306945165
> 
> 
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
 On Mar 23, 2023, at 5:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I haven’t had a chance to finish my GESO from Tuesday night, but someone 
>>> saw my house on the news. In the opening sequence you can see my van and 
>>> trailer in the background.
>>> 
>>> https://www.ksbw.com/article/traffic-jams-in-santa-cruz-mountains-from-falling-trees/43381711
>>> 
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[Larry Colen]

> On Mar 23, 2023, at 2:41 PM, Comcast  wrote:
> 
> Ouch! Serious damage. That looks like a several day outage. Light candles! 
> (Or curse the darkness.)

Surprisingly, it was only out for about 24 hours, unlike the tree the previous 
Tuesday which caused it to be out for a few days, and then again most of the 
following Sunday.

I apologize for doing bare minimum editing and processing, but here are my 
photos of them working on the tree:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720306945165


> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2023, at 5:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven’t had a chance to finish my GESO from Tuesday night, but someone 
>> saw my house on the news. In the opening sequence you can see my van and 
>> trailer in the background.
>> 
>> https://www.ksbw.com/article/traffic-jams-in-santa-cruz-mountains-from-falling-trees/43381711
>> 
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[Comcast]

Ouch! Serious damage. That looks like a several day outage. Light candles! (Or 
curse the darkness.)

Paul

> On Mar 23, 2023, at 5:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I haven’t had a chance to finish my GESO from Tuesday night, but someone saw 
> my house on the news. In the opening sequence you can see my van and trailer 
> in the background.
> 
> https://www.ksbw.com/article/traffic-jams-in-santa-cruz-mountains-from-falling-trees/43381711
> 
> 
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[Larry Colen]

I haven’t had a chance to finish my GESO from Tuesday night, but someone saw my 
house on the news. In the opening sequence you can see my van and trailer in 
the background.

https://www.ksbw.com/article/traffic-jams-in-santa-cruz-mountains-from-falling-trees/43381711


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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[lrc]

On March 23, 2023 5:24:43 AM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>what a nightmare... and it doesn't look like you are getting any relief too 
>soon.  at least you have a new toy.
>
>BTW, when I look at your photos from your phone Google shows me two of every 
>frame... maybe you playing with exposures with difference my eyes can't see ?  
>also, even though I'm in dark mode on Google when I go to the photos the 
>background is white.  Google sucks a lot sometimes

Thanks, that probably has something to do with my network being out, I might 
have added photos to the album twice without realizing it.

On the list of things that went wrong in the past month, it's pretty minor
>
>ann
>
>On 3/22/2023 11:23 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> Just with my phone
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cECzAWQ6rXMa6v2u9
>> 
>> 
>> On March 22, 2023 12:25:35 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
 On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 […]
 
 I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
 people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where 
 they chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.
>>> Hi-viz jackets make you invisible.
>>> 
>>> One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[ann sanfedele]

what a nightmare... and it doesn't look like you are getting any relief 
too soon.  at least you have a new toy.


BTW, when I look at your photos from your phone Google shows me two of 
every frame... maybe you playing with exposures with difference my eyes 
can't see ?  also, even though I'm in dark mode on Google when I go to 
the photos the background is white.  Google sucks a lot sometimes


ann

On 3/22/2023 11:23 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

Just with my phone
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cECzAWQ6rXMa6v2u9


On March 22, 2023 12:25:35 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:

On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:

[…]

I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest people 
are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where they chewed 
you out for being a couple of hours previously.

Hi-viz jackets make you invisible.

One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.

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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

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> On Mar 22, 2023, at 9:32 AM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> My anagram reply was to google, not to you. I understand your problems and 
> didn’t mean any offence, just wanted you to know that people may not be 
> seeing your photos.
> 

No worries it takes more than that to piss me off, but less to inspire snark.

I don’t know what the problem is, because so far as I know they’ve never asked 
for ownership of all of my photos.

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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[Bob W PDML]

My anagram reply was to google, not to you. I understand your problems and 
didn’t mean any offence, just wanted you to know that people may not be seeing 
your photos.

> On 22 Mar 2023, at 16:19, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> That's fine, I don't terribly care that you don't look at them. I'm up to my 
> asshole in storm damage, have no power or Internet at home, I hope you won't 
> feel offended that I don't spend an hour and a half paying something on 
> Flickr so you can see it .  
> 
>> On March 22, 2023 8:29:27 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> Whenever you put a link to photos on Google it tells me it wants access to 
>> all my photos before it will show me yours. My reply is an anagram of 
>> cfffkou.
>> 
 On 22 Mar 2023, at 15:23, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just with my phone
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cECzAWQ6rXMa6v2u9
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On March 22, 2023 12:25:35 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> […]
> 
> I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
> people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where 
> they chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.
 
 Hi-viz jackets make you invisible. 
 
 One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.
 
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[lrc]

That's fine, I don't terribly care that you don't look at them. I'm up to my 
asshole in storm damage, have no power or Internet at home, I hope you won't 
feel offended that I don't spend an hour and a half paying something on Flickr 
so you can see it .  

On March 22, 2023 8:29:27 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>Whenever you put a link to photos on Google it tells me it wants access to all 
>my photos before it will show me yours. My reply is an anagram of cfffkou.
>
>> On 22 Mar 2023, at 15:23, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> 
>> Just with my phone
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cECzAWQ6rXMa6v2u9
>> 
>> 
>> On March 22, 2023 12:25:35 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 […]
 
 I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
 people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where 
 they chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.
>>> 
>>> Hi-viz jackets make you invisible. 
>>> 
>>> One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[Bob W PDML]

Whenever you put a link to photos on Google it tells me it wants access to all 
my photos before it will show me yours. My reply is an anagram of cfffkou.

> On 22 Mar 2023, at 15:23, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> Just with my phone
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cECzAWQ6rXMa6v2u9
> 
> 
> On March 22, 2023 12:25:35 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
 On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> […]
>>> 
>>> I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
>>> people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where 
>>> they chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.
>> 
>> Hi-viz jackets make you invisible. 
>> 
>> One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

[lrc]

Just with my phone
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cECzAWQ6rXMa6v2u9


On March 22, 2023 12:25:35 AM PDT, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> […]
>> 
>> I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
>> people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where they 
>> chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.
>
>Hi-viz jackets make you invisible. 
>
>One of the modern world’s great paradoxes.
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Re: A chance to play with my new toys

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> On 22 Mar 2023, at 06:50, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> […]
> 
> I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest 
> people are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where they 
> chewed you out for being a couple of hours previously.

Hi-viz jackets make you invisible. 

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A chance to play with my new toys

[Larry Colen]

I won’t be able to post photos for a bit because I still don’t have internet at 
home, other than a cell phone hotspot, from when a tree fell on my neighbor’s 
house last Tuesday. Let’s just say that I am not currently thrilled with TPC.

I did get a chance to play with the K-3 III  and my 70-200 tonight, and test 
their weather proofing, in the rain, as a work crew cut a tree down that had 
fallen on the power lines, a few feet from my property line, on the other side 
of the house than the tree fell a week ago. We had a power since Sunday at 6PM, 
but I didn’t let that make me complacent, I powered down my desktop when I left 
for work this morning, because  it’s rainy in the Santa Cruz Mountains, and was 
supposed to get a little bit wet.  So power from Sunday at 6PM until Tuesday at 
2PM, that’s like over 40 hours, a guy could get spoiled. 

I learned a couple of things about the 3 III tonight. First of all, there’s a 
little button in the upper left of the back, which is easy to miss in the dark, 
it’s right next to the metering mode button. If you bump it, you won’t be able 
to adjust aperture, shutter speed or ISO. If you do so in the rain, in the 
dark, when you aren’t familiar with the camera, and the controls inexplicably 
stop working you. might mistakenly think that the weather sealing didn’t work 
as well as it should, but might be puzzled why they e-dials still worked on the 
menus.

I have also learned that as handy as the touch screen controls might be, in the 
rain it can get very confused. The photo review and preview stop working and a 
bunch of other strange things happen as well.

I also learned that if you put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest people 
are a lot more likely to assume that you’re supposed to be where they chewed 
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Re: New Toys

[John Sessoms]

Except for those that should be a certain shade of green.

On 4/18/2022 12:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?

Alan C

On 18-Apr-22 02:42 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
The latest version is getting great reviews in the motoring press in 
Australia.  Friend of mine has an older model (2005) and loves it.
Like the colour - I had my 1973 Escort resprayed in a very similar 
colour.



John in Brisbane



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On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular 
ladies sports car, still in high demand.
This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the 
others were all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a “woman’s 
car”.  I’m fine with them being popular with women, particularly 
attractive women that I might want an opportunity to chat with.


In the motorsports community there is a saying “the answer is always 
miata”.  They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a 
little bit more reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever 
seen is in a class called Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the 
SCCA, I qualified mid grid, a friend was gridded directly in front of 
me with a qualifying time .030 seconds faster than mine, the guy next 
to me was .030 slower.  So, on a 3 mile (5km) track,  about .060 
seconds which works out to about 10ft (3m) separated the qualifying 
times of four cars, or two rows of the grid.



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Fwd: New Toys

[Alan C]

I had to resist turning green!

Alan C

On 19-Apr-22 06:38 AM, John Francis wrote:

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 06:32:17AM +0200, Alan C wrote:

Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?

Alan C

I know somebody who thinks so:

  

Of course he's not entirely convinced - this is the yellow car just visible at 
the top of the picture:

  

... and this is the third car (just visible in the top right corner):

  
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Re: New Toys

[Alan C]

John, I was a poor school teacher with a VW Beetle at the time. A fellow 
teacher offered me the battered, clapped out, oil burning Van for a mere 
£25. I had a mate who raced Morris Minors who helped me do a ring job & 
fit a hot cam & manifold with twin SU's he had lying around. For the 
colour scheme I was inspired by the 1275 Mini Coopers which had started 
appearing. It was quite quick off the mark but the top speed was only 
about 75 mph - 4.50 diff). The road holding was terrible. With a growing 
family I needed something more practical so I sold it & bought a S/H 
Morris Oxford S/W.


Alan C

On 19-Apr-22 02:24 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Hi Alan - an A35? That was possibly the most uncool car of the era - but with 
that motor it would have shocked many a boy racer!  Mind you, that comes from 
one who had a bog standard 850 Mini.  At one time the speedo jammed at 80 
mph(!) and I got stopped by the police for driving too slowly (guessing I was 
doing roughly the 30mph speed limit): I was silently praying he wouldn't notice 
the speedo reading.

John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Alan C  
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 5:35 PM

To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Toys

Long ago, in Rhodesia, I had an  A35 van (1000cc BMC engine, hot cam, twin 
SU's) in BRG with a light grey roof. Then came the Mini's.

Alan C

On 18-Apr-22 09:07 AM,jco...@iinet.net.au  wrote:

Maybe - but British Racing Green is pretty cool!


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Alan C
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:32 PM
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Toys

Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?

Alan C

On 18-Apr-22 02:42 AM,jco...@iinet.net.au  wrote:

The latest version is getting great reviews in the motoring press in Australia. 
 Friend of mine has an older model (2005) and loves it.
Like the colour - I had my 1973 Escort resprayed in a very similar colour.


John in Brisbane



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On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies sports 
car, still in high demand.

This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the others were 
all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a “woman’s car”.  I’m fine with 
them being popular with women, particularly attractive women that I might want 
an opportunity to chat with.

In the motorsports community there is a saying “the answer is always miata”.  
They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a little bit more 
reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever seen is in a class called 
Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the SCCA, I qualified mid grid, a 
friend was gridded directly in front of me with a qualifying time .030 seconds 
faster than mine, the guy next to me was .030 slower.  So, on a 3 mile (5km) 
track,  about .060 seconds which works out to about 10ft (3m) separated the 
qualifying times of four cars, or two rows of the grid.


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Re: New Toys

[John Francis]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 06:32:17AM +0200, Alan C wrote:
> Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?
> 
> Alan C

I know somebody who thinks so:



Of course he's not entirely convinced - this is the yellow car just visible at 
the top of the picture:



... and this is the third car (just visible in the top right corner):


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Re: New Toys

[John Francis]

My "uncool" car was extremely practical - a Morris Minor 1000 estate (with the 
1100cc engine).
When I left home after graduating from univerity my parents offered me a choice 
- I could buy
(for a token price) the Escort estate my father was driving, or take my 
mother's car for free.
After discussion with my brother I opted for the moggie, and my brother took 
the Escort.

That car was extremely practical, and almost indestructable - when the engine 
seized up after
a garage neglected to adequately tighten the lower radiator hose (so all the 
coolant leaked)
all I had to do was replace the hose, fill up with water, and wait until the 
block cooled.
Its only weakness was that it was pathologically afraid of water - if there was 
rain within
two counties it was prone to the dread "water on the points" (because, of 
course, it had a
distributor cap manufactured by Lucas Electrical).

I eventually had to get rid of that car when the main box girders of the 
chassis rusted out
and became more like U-girders.  But by then my brother was about to leave the 
country, and
sold me his Triumph Vitesse convertible: ~1800lbs dry weight - less than a 
modern F1 car -
and a straight six two-litre engine putting.out almost 100HP (also less than an 
F1 car :-)

Then I left the country, too, and ended up in the US some 40 years ago.  In the 
intervening
years since then I've owned a Fiat 132, a Mustang GT convertible, and a BMW Z4.



On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 10:24:50AM +1000, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> Hi Alan - an A35? That was possibly the most uncool car of the era - but with 
> that motor it would have shocked many a boy racer!  Mind you, that comes from 
> one who had a bog standard 850 Mini.  At one time the speedo jammed at 80 
> mph(!) and I got stopped by the police for driving too slowly (guessing I was 
> doing roughly the 30mph speed limit): I was silently praying he wouldn't 
> notice the speedo reading.
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan C  
> Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 5:35 PM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: New Toys
> 
> Long ago, in Rhodesia, I had an  A35 van (1000cc BMC engine, hot cam, twin 
> SU's) in BRG with a light grey roof. Then came the Mini's.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 18-Apr-22 09:07 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> > Maybe - but British Racing Green is pretty cool!
> >
> >
> > John in Brisbane
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alan C 
> > Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:32 PM
> > To: pdml@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: New Toys
> >
> > Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?
> >
> > Alan C
> >
> > On 18-Apr-22 02:42 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> >> The latest version is getting great reviews in the motoring press in 
> >> Australia.  Friend of mine has an older model (2005) and loves it.
> >> Like the colour - I had my 1973 Escort resprayed in a very similar colour.
> >>
> >>
> >> John in Brisbane
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Larry Colen 
> >> Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:53 AM
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: New Toys
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies 
> >>> sports car, still in high demand.
> >> This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the others 
> >> were all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a ???woman???s car???. 
> >>  I???m fine with them being popular with women, particularly attractive 
> >> women that I might want an opportunity to chat with.
> >>
> >> In the motorsports community there is a saying ???the answer is always 
> >> miata???.  They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a 
> >> little bit more reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever seen 
> >> is in a class called Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the SCCA, I 
> >> qualified mid grid, a friend was gridded directly in front of me with a 
> >> qualifying time .030 seconds faster than mine, the guy next to me was .030 
> >> slower.  So, on a 3 mile (5km) track,  about .060 seconds which works out 
> >> to about 10ft (3m) separated the qualifying times of four cars, or two 
> >> rows of the grid.
> >>
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RE: New Toys

[jcoyle]

Hi Alan - an A35? That was possibly the most uncool car of the era - but with 
that motor it would have shocked many a boy racer!  Mind you, that comes from 
one who had a bog standard 850 Mini.  At one time the speedo jammed at 80 
mph(!) and I got stopped by the police for driving too slowly (guessing I was 
doing roughly the 30mph speed limit): I was silently praying he wouldn't notice 
the speedo reading.

John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Alan C  
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 5:35 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Toys

Long ago, in Rhodesia, I had an  A35 van (1000cc BMC engine, hot cam, twin 
SU's) in BRG with a light grey roof. Then came the Mini's.

Alan C

On 18-Apr-22 09:07 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> Maybe - but British Racing Green is pretty cool!
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan C 
> Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:32 PM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: New Toys
>
> Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?
>
> Alan C
>
> On 18-Apr-22 02:42 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> The latest version is getting great reviews in the motoring press in 
>> Australia.  Friend of mine has an older model (2005) and loves it.
>> Like the colour - I had my 1973 Escort resprayed in a very similar colour.
>>
>>
>> John in Brisbane
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Colen 
>> Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:53 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: New Toys
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies 
>>> sports car, still in high demand.
>> This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the others 
>> were all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a “woman’s car”.  I’m 
>> fine with them being popular with women, particularly attractive women that 
>> I might want an opportunity to chat with.
>>
>> In the motorsports community there is a saying “the answer is always miata”. 
>>  They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a little bit 
>> more reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever seen is in a class 
>> called Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the SCCA, I qualified mid 
>> grid, a friend was gridded directly in front of me with a qualifying time 
>> .030 seconds faster than mine, the guy next to me was .030 slower.  So, on a 
>> 3 mile (5km) track,  about .060 seconds which works out to about 10ft (3m) 
>> separated the qualifying times of four cars, or two rows of the grid.
>>
>>
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Re: New Toys

[Alan C]

Long ago, in Rhodesia, I had an  A35 van (1000cc BMC engine, hot cam, 
twin SU's) in BRG with a light grey roof. Then came the Mini's.


Alan C

On 18-Apr-22 09:07 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Maybe - but British Racing Green is pretty cool!


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Alan C 
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:32 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Toys

Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?

Alan C

On 18-Apr-22 02:42 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

The latest version is getting great reviews in the motoring press in Australia. 
 Friend of mine has an older model (2005) and loves it.
Like the colour - I had my 1973 Escort resprayed in a very similar colour.


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Larry Colen 
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:53 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: New Toys




On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies sports 
car, still in high demand.

This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the others were 
all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a “woman’s car”.  I’m fine with 
them being popular with women, particularly attractive women that I might want 
an opportunity to chat with.

In the motorsports community there is a saying “the answer is always miata”.  
They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a little bit more 
reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever seen is in a class called 
Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the SCCA, I qualified mid grid, a 
friend was gridded directly in front of me with a qualifying time .030 seconds 
faster than mine, the guy next to me was .030 slower.  So, on a 3 mile (5km) 
track,  about .060 seconds which works out to about 10ft (3m) separated the 
qualifying times of four cars, or two rows of the grid.


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RE: New Toys

[jcoyle]

Maybe - but British Racing Green is pretty cool!


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Alan C  
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:32 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Toys

Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?

Alan C

On 18-Apr-22 02:42 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> The latest version is getting great reviews in the motoring press in 
> Australia.  Friend of mine has an older model (2005) and loves it.
> Like the colour - I had my 1973 Escort resprayed in a very similar colour.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Colen 
> Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:53 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: New Toys
>
>
>
>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>>
>> Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies 
>> sports car, still in high demand.
> This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the others were 
> all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a “woman’s car”.  I’m fine 
> with them being popular with women, particularly attractive women that I 
> might want an opportunity to chat with.
>
> In the motorsports community there is a saying “the answer is always miata”.  
> They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a little bit more 
> reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever seen is in a class 
> called Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the SCCA, I qualified mid 
> grid, a friend was gridded directly in front of me with a qualifying time 
> .030 seconds faster than mine, the guy next to me was .030 slower.  So, on a 
> 3 mile (5km) track,  about .060 seconds which works out to about 10ft (3m) 
> separated the qualifying times of four cars, or two rows of the grid.
>
>
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Re: New Toys

[Alan C]

Aren't sports cars supposed to be red?

Alan C

On 18-Apr-22 02:42 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

The latest version is getting great reviews in the motoring press in Australia. 
 Friend of mine has an older model (2005) and loves it.
Like the colour - I had my 1973 Escort resprayed in a very similar colour.


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Larry Colen 
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:53 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: New Toys




On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies sports 
car, still in high demand.

This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the others were 
all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a “woman’s car”.  I’m fine with 
them being popular with women, particularly attractive women that I might want 
an opportunity to chat with.

In the motorsports community there is a saying “the answer is always miata”.  
They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a little bit more 
reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever seen is in a class called 
Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the SCCA, I qualified mid grid, a 
friend was gridded directly in front of me with a qualifying time .030 seconds 
faster than mine, the guy next to me was .030 slower.  So, on a 3 mile (5km) 
track,  about .060 seconds which works out to about 10ft (3m) separated the 
qualifying times of four cars, or two rows of the grid.


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RE: New Toys

[jcoyle]

The latest version is getting great reviews in the motoring press in Australia. 
 Friend of mine has an older model (2005) and loves it.
Like the colour - I had my 1973 Escort resprayed in a very similar colour.


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Larry Colen  
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2022 2:53 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: New Toys



> On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies sports 
> car, still in high demand.

This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the others were 
all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a “woman’s car”.  I’m fine with 
them being popular with women, particularly attractive women that I might want 
an opportunity to chat with.  

In the motorsports community there is a saying “the answer is always miata”.  
They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a little bit more 
reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever seen is in a class called 
Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the SCCA, I qualified mid grid, a 
friend was gridded directly in front of me with a qualifying time .030 seconds 
faster than mine, the guy next to me was .030 slower.  So, on a 3 mile (5km) 
track,  about .060 seconds which works out to about 10ft (3m) separated the 
qualifying times of four cars, or two rows of the grid.


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Re: New Toys

[Larry Colen]

> On Apr 17, 2022, at 5:25 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies sports 
> car, still in high demand.

This is actually my fourth Miata/Eunos/Mx-5, but my first NB, the others were 
all NAs.  They have a reputation here of being a “woman’s car”.  I’m fine with 
them being popular with women, particularly attractive women that I might want 
an opportunity to chat with.  

In the motorsports community there is a saying “the answer is always miata”.  
They are fun to drive, get decent gas mileage and are just a little bit more 
reliable than an anvil.  The best racing I have ever seen is in a class called 
Spec Miata.  In the last race I did with the SCCA, I qualified mid grid, a 
friend was gridded directly in front of me with a qualifying time .030 seconds 
faster than mine, the guy next to me was .030 slower.  So, on a 3 mile (5km) 
track,  about .060 seconds which works out to about 10ft (3m) separated the 
qualifying times of four cars, or two rows of the grid.


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Re: New Toys

[Alan C]

Looks good, Larry. Known at the MX-5 over here - a very popular ladies 
sports car, still in high demand.


Alan C

On 17-Apr-22 08:02 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I got a new toy today.  A 2000 (NB) Miata.  I stopped on my way home to take a 
few photos.  Some with my K-1 and some with my next newest toy, the Gx9.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720298168503

In theory, eventually there will even be a 12 second video at the end of the 
album.  Let’s see if LRC can actually upload it to flickr.

A few more snaps taken with my phone:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7kmAxPqnDjKnxAncA

The car is not in perfect condition, but it’s amazingly close for one of its 
age.  Incredible luck on my part a friend sent me an email last week that his 
brother was helping sell his late ex-wife’s car and did I know anybody that was 
interested.  Not only did this come in when I actually had enough money, but I 
got it for an exceptionally good price.

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Re: New Toys

[Steve Cottrell]

Nice colour! ;-)

C


On 17 Apr 2022, at 07:02, Larry Colen  wrote:

I got a new toy today.  A 2000 (NB) Miata.  I stopped on my way home to take a 
few photos.  Some with my K-1 and some with my next newest toy, the Gx9.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720298168503

In theory, eventually there will even be a 12 second video at the end of the 
album.  Let’s see if LRC can actually upload it to flickr.

A few more snaps taken with my phone:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7kmAxPqnDjKnxAncA

The car is not in perfect condition, but it’s amazingly close for one of its 
age.  Incredible luck on my part a friend sent me an email last week that his 
brother was helping sell his late ex-wife’s car and did I know anybody that was 
interested.  Not only did this come in when I actually had enough money, but I 
got it for an exceptionally good price.  
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New Toys

[Larry Colen]

I got a new toy today.  A 2000 (NB) Miata.  I stopped on my way home to take a 
few photos.  Some with my K-1 and some with my next newest toy, the Gx9.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720298168503

In theory, eventually there will even be a 12 second video at the end of the 
album.  Let’s see if LRC can actually upload it to flickr.

A few more snaps taken with my phone:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7kmAxPqnDjKnxAncA

The car is not in perfect condition, but it’s amazingly close for one of its 
age.  Incredible luck on my part a friend sent me an email last week that his 
brother was helping sell his late ex-wife’s car and did I know anybody that was 
interested.  Not only did this come in when I actually had enough money, but I 
got it for an exceptionally good price.  

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OT: Casio has some new toys at new prices

[Joseph McAllister]

Article in NY Times about it:

http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2009/04/10/technology/circuitsemail/index.html?8ciremc=cir

http://www.casio.com/products/Cameras/High_Speed_EXILIM/EX- 
FC100BK/  $400  (but site claims $350)


http://www.casio.com/products/Cameras/High_Speed_EXILIM/EX- 
FS10GY/   $350


http://www.casio.com/products/Cameras/High_Speed_EXILIM/EX- 
FH20/ $500


The last one is basically the X-70 on methamphetamines

Boy would one of these be FUN!

Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

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http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html


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Re: Way OT: new toys

[ann sanfedele]

Scott Loveless wrote:

After the ice fell three stories from the roof of our home and totaled our 
car, we were left with some disposable cash. 

Would you say you fell into some money or some money fell into you?

 We decided to get something old and cheap to replace it, since it hardly 
 rolled out of the driveway after I quit working. 

hmm  - it will get us to GFM, yes?  For a moment there I thought you 
upgraded the car !

First it was the K10D.  Not only did I go digital, I bought a camera with a 
Sony sensor.  (I know, straight to hell for me.)  Most recently I violated my 
personal morals in several ways.  I bought a laptop.  I've told myself, and 
quite a few others, that I would never, ever buy another Compaq, that XP was 
the end of the Windows line for me, and that Best Buy would never get another 
dime.  The Compaq was on sale at Best Buy.  It came with Vista.  I'm sure at 
least one of the 666 layers is reserved for people like me.

The hell you say

Anyway, just wanted to let Ann know that I'll have a decent laptop at GFM if 
she needs it.

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www.twosixteen.com/
  

You had me until you said VISTA  :)

Maybe I'll bring my copy of elements 5.0




  




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Way OT: new toys

[Scott Loveless]

After the ice fell three stories from the roof of our home and totaled our car, 
we were left with some disposable cash.  We decided to get something old and 
cheap to replace it, since it hardly rolled out of the driveway after I quit 
working.  This left us with some decisions.  Save the money, invest the money, 
pay off that credit card once and for all, put it in the kids' college funds?  
Heck no!  Responsibility took a backseat and I dove headfirst into enablement 
fun, all the while doing several things I swore I wouldn't do.  It's amazing 
what a bit of cash will do to personal resolutions.

First it was the K10D.  Not only did I go digital, I bought a camera with a 
Sony sensor.  (I know, straight to hell for me.)  Most recently I violated my 
personal morals in several ways.  I bought a laptop.  I've told myself, and 
quite a few others, that I would never, ever buy another Compaq, that XP was 
the end of the Windows line for me, and that Best Buy would never get another 
dime.  The Compaq was on sale at Best Buy.  It came with Vista.  I'm sure at 
least one of the 666 layers is reserved for people like me.

Anyway, just wanted to let Ann know that I'll have a decent laptop at GFM if 
she needs it.

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Re: Way OT: new toys

[mike wilson]

Scott Loveless wrote:

 
 Anyway, just wanted to let Ann know that I'll have a decent laptop at GFM if 
 she needs it.

So you took the Compaq/Vista special back?

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Re: Way OT: new toys

[Scott Loveless]

mike wilson wrote:
 Scott Loveless wrote:

   
 Anyway, just wanted to let Ann know that I'll have a decent laptop at GFM if 
 she needs it.
 

 So you took the Compaq/Vista special back?

   
Ok, I can take a jab.  Especially one as deserved as yours.  Allow me to 
rephrase.  I'll have a better laptop than the 650MHz Celeron I bought in 
2000 and was still using until a few days ago.

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Re: Way OT: new toys

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

Sound to me like you'll have to start working again :-)

Maris

Scott Loveless wrote:
 After the ice fell three stories from the roof of our home and
 totaled our car, we were left with some disposable cash.  We decided
 to get something old and cheap to replace it, since it hardly rolled
 out of the driveway after I quit working.  This left us with some
 decisions.  Save the money, invest the money, pay off that credit
 card once and for all, put it in the kids' college funds?  Heck no! 
 Responsibility took a backseat and I dove headfirst into enablement
 fun, all the while doing several things I swore I wouldn't do.  It's
 amazing what a bit of cash will do to personal resolutions.
 
 First it was the K10D.  Not only did I go digital, I bought a
 camera with a Sony sensor.  (I know, straight to hell for me.)  Most
 recently I violated my personal morals in several ways.  I bought a
 laptop.  I've told myself, and quite a few others, that I would
 never, ever buy another Compaq, that XP was the end of the Windows
 line for me, and that Best Buy would never get another dime.  The
 Compaq was on sale at Best Buy.  It came with Vista.  I'm sure at
 least one of the 666 layers is reserved for people like me.   

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Re: PESO: More from the new toys

[Boris Liberman]

Hi! Or should I greet you with privet? ;-)


One of the first presentable shots from the *istDS:

http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1163787ref=author

The last remaining blast furnace in the Liège region sitting like a
mountain over the roofs of Sclessin. This one will be closed down by
2009, at the latest.

As always, comments are welcome.


This image makes me feel a bit gloomy... But I think I would have felt 
much more gloomy if I were on location... Funny thing I am thinking now 
about being essentially a city dweller and yet I dislike factories such 
as this one...


Boris

Re: PESO: More from the new toys

[frank theriault]

On 12/4/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Bloody 'ell Ralf, that could be Pittsburgh! snip

...or Hamilton, Ontario (Canada's steeltown).

Cool shot, well executed.

-frank

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RE: PESO: More from the new toys

[Shel Belinkoff]

Photos of buildings don't usually do much for me, but I like this one. 
It's a reminder of a past age, where industrial power and strength is
represented by the strong masculine influences of smoke stacks, chimneys,
and towers reaching to the sky.  And the sky in this shot is a nice grey
tome, complimenting the industrial feel of the tower and stacks.


Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher)

 http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1163787ref=author

 The last remaining blast furnace in the Liège region sitting like a
 mountain over the roofs of Sclessin. This one will be closed down by
 2009, at the latest.

Re: PESO: More from the new toys

[Gautam Sarup]

I like this one too.  Somehow to me factories and smoke stacks
signify much more than all the computers and digital toys in
the world.  Would have been nice to see some smoke in the
the chimneys.

Cheers,
Gautam


On 12/5/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Photos of buildings don't usually do much for me, but I like this one.
 It's a reminder of a past age, where industrial power and strength is
 represented by the strong masculine influences of smoke stacks, chimneys,
 and towers reaching to the sky.  And the sky in this shot is a nice grey
 tome, complimenting the industrial feel of the tower and stacks.


 Shel
 You meet the nicest people with a Pentax


  [Original Message]
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher)

  http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1163787ref=author
 
  The last remaining blast furnace in the Liège region sitting like a
  mountain over the roofs of Sclessin. This one will be closed down by
  2009, at the latest.

PESO: More from the new toys

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

One of the first presentable shots from the *istDS:

http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1163787ref=author

The last remaining blast furnace in the Liège region sitting like a
mountain over the roofs of Sclessin. This one will be closed down by
2009, at the latest.

As always, comments are welcome.

Ralf

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Re: PESO: More from the new toys

[Paul Stenquist]

Technically well executed. Good range of tonal values in both the 
building and the sky. You apparently have figured out your new camera. 
Looking forward to more.

Paul
On Dec 4, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


One of the first presentable shots from the *istDS:

http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1163787ref=author

The last remaining blast furnace in the Liège region sitting like a
mountain over the roofs of Sclessin. This one will be closed down by
2009, at the latest.

As always, comments are welcome.

Ralf

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Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses

Re: PESO: More from the new toys

[Mark Roberts]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher) wrote:

One of the first presentable shots from the *istDS:

http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1163787ref=author

The last remaining blast furnace in the Liège region sitting like a
mountain over the roofs of Sclessin. This one will be closed down by
2009, at the latest.

Bloody 'ell Ralf, that could be Pittsburgh! Even down to the houses in
the foreground! Well, not Pittsburgh, but several of the towns 5
minutes up river where there are a couple of facilities like this
still in existence. Only one or two are still in operation. I'd love
to get the chance to do a serious photo study of a couple of these
places.
 

Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/23/2004 5:08:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From dpreview, a full summary someone has posted:

I've collected the important specifications info  included it in the
list, 
together with the prices via http://www.NexTag.com as of today: 

Portable Hard disk Devices - 12 devices (sorted by price): 
- Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [~$240 for 40 GB; ~$90 for unit] 
(Any 2.5 HDD, no MP3, 130x75x25mm, 300g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=11 
- Aska Tripper [~$250 for 40 GB; ~$140 for unit] 
(2.5 HDD, no MP3, 138x91x33mm, 300g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.aska-corp.co.jp/oem/e-pro-top.htm 
http://www.photo.net/equipment/digital/tripper/ 
- Archos Gmini 220 [~$260 for 20 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3, USB 2.0, 68x78x23mm, 170g, Gray-scale 2.5 LCD) 
http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500452.html 
- Jobo Image Tank G2 [~$260 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit alone] 
(Any 2.5 HDD, MP3, 145x87x35mm, 340g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.image-tank.com/englisch/e_itg2.html 
http://www.jobodigital.com/products/image_tank_g2.htm 
- Vosonic X's-Drive Pro VP300 [~$270 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit] 
(Any 2.5 HDD, MP3, 136x86x37mm, 329g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=20 
- Archos AV140 Video Recorder [~$350 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3  Video/TV, 110x79x29mm, 290g, Color LCD) 
http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500431.html 
- Vosonic V-MP3H [~$350 for 40 GB] 
(Any 2.5 HDD, MP3  Video, 154x92x46 mm, 446g, Color 2.5 LCD) 
http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=4 
- Nixvue Digital Album Lite [~$380 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, no MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.nixvue.com/products/da/albumlite/index.html 
- Nixvue Vista [~$470 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, Color 1.8 LCD) 
http://www.nixvue.com/products/vista/index.html 
   Delkin eFilm PicturePad [~$440 for 40 GB; same as above] 
 http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_picturepad.html 
- FlashTrax SmartDisk [~$480 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3  Video/TV, 143x92x32mm, 340g, Color 3.5 LCD) 
http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp 
Innoplus Phototainer [same product as above, different marketing
name] 
http://www.innoplus.com/html/eng_prod2.htm 
- Archos AV340 Video Recorder [~$500 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3  DivX/XviD/TV, 112x82x31 mm, 350g, Color 3.8' LCD) 
http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500521.html 


Portable CD-R/W Recorders - 4 devices: 
- Addonics MFR (also a DVD player) 
http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp 
- Nixvue Vizor 
http://www.nixvue.com/products/vizor/index.html 
- Jobo Apacer Disc Steno CP200 

http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/disc_stone_cp200.asp 
- ezPnP DigiMagic CD burner 
http://www.digi-magic.com 

Well, best choices depend on what you want and already have. 
E.g. if you got a notebook, then you don't need big LCD on device, 
and neither CD Recorder if you got one in notebook, 
for such people top three choices are probably: 
1) Archos Gmini 220 [smallest and lightest, but just 20 GB] 
2) Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [cheapest unit, but no MP3] 
3) Jobo Image Tank G2 

For those without notebook there are two categories to choose from, 
HD based  CD based devices. If one has big Compact Flash card 
or big Microdrive then I doubt CD recorders are wise choice, 
to backup 4 GB microdrive to 700 MB CDs is very slow... 

So, to me the top two choices with big LCDs are: 
1) Archos AV340 Video Recorder [biggest LCD, plays DivX  XviD] 
2) FlashTrax SmartDisk [nice  big LCD, video playback] 

From CD recorders I like best Addonics MFR, since it's also DVD player, 
and as someone said, he has A.MFR and a small HDD device, good combo. 

I'd only buy portable CD recorder if I had to send copies around. 

But if some company comes out with DVD recorder, that would 
be much, much better device to choose. One could backup whole 
4 GB Microdrive to one DVD media. One could have tons of MP3s 
on DVD media, one could have it to watch DVD movies too, etc. 

I think any serious field photographer should have two devices: 
1. Small and light 12 tablet PC with DVD recorder for final backups 
2. Smallest and lightest portable HD based device for field usage 


Anyone want to add some other devices and opinions? 

There is much more into these devices than specs  prices of course :) 

Hope this helps to someone  good luck with your choices! 

Boyan 

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http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/s.nl/c.ACCT139057/sc.2/category.3/.f 
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Hey, cool, hadn't realized this thread had continued or that someone HAD 
gathered all the info. together.

Personally, I almost went with the Apacer Steno Disc (because of not having 
to worry about a portable hard drive), then I ended up with the 

RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Rob Brigham]

From dpreview, a full summary someone has posted:

I've collected the important specifications info  included it in the
list, 
together with the prices via http://www.NexTag.com as of today: 

Portable Hard disk Devices - 12 devices (sorted by price): 
- Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [~$240 for 40 GB; ~$90 for unit] 
(Any 2.5 HDD, no MP3, 130x75x25mm, 300g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=11 
- Aska Tripper [~$250 for 40 GB; ~$140 for unit] 
(2.5 HDD, no MP3, 138x91x33mm, 300g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.aska-corp.co.jp/oem/e-pro-top.htm 
http://www.photo.net/equipment/digital/tripper/ 
- Archos Gmini 220 [~$260 for 20 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3, USB 2.0, 68x78x23mm, 170g, Gray-scale 2.5 LCD) 
http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500452.html 
- Jobo Image Tank G2 [~$260 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit alone] 
(Any 2.5 HDD, MP3, 145x87x35mm, 340g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.image-tank.com/englisch/e_itg2.html 
http://www.jobodigital.com/products/image_tank_g2.htm 
- Vosonic X's-Drive Pro VP300 [~$270 for 40 GB; ~$120 for unit] 
(Any 2.5 HDD, MP3, 136x86x37mm, 329g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=20 
- Archos AV140 Video Recorder [~$350 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3  Video/TV, 110x79x29mm, 290g, Color LCD) 
http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500431.html 
- Vosonic V-MP3H [~$350 for 40 GB] 
(Any 2.5 HDD, MP3  Video, 154x92x46 mm, 446g, Color 2.5 LCD) 
http://www.vosonic.com/index.php?php_mode=specphp_itemid=4 
- Nixvue Digital Album Lite [~$380 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, no MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, BW LCD for status) 
http://www.nixvue.com/products/da/albumlite/index.html 
- Nixvue Vista [~$470 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3, 146x83x29mm, 290g, Color 1.8 LCD) 
http://www.nixvue.com/products/vista/index.html 
   Delkin eFilm PicturePad [~$440 for 40 GB; same as above] 
 http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_picturepad.html 
- FlashTrax SmartDisk [~$480 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3  Video/TV, 143x92x32mm, 340g, Color 3.5 LCD) 
http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp 
Innoplus Phototainer [same product as above, different marketing
name] 
http://www.innoplus.com/html/eng_prod2.htm 
- Archos AV340 Video Recorder [~$500 for 40 GB] 
(2.5 HDD, MP3  DivX/XviD/TV, 112x82x31 mm, 350g, Color 3.8' LCD) 
http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500521.html 


Portable CD-R/W Recorders - 4 devices: 
- Addonics MFR (also a DVD player) 
http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp 
- Nixvue Vizor 
http://www.nixvue.com/products/vizor/index.html 
- Jobo Apacer Disc Steno CP200 
 
http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/disc_stone_cp200.asp 
- ezPnP DigiMagic CD burner 
http://www.digi-magic.com 

Well, best choices depend on what you want and already have. 
E.g. if you got a notebook, then you don't need big LCD on device, 
and neither CD Recorder if you got one in notebook, 
for such people top three choices are probably: 
1) Archos Gmini 220 [smallest and lightest, but just 20 GB] 
2) Vosonic X's Drive II VP2060 [cheapest unit, but no MP3] 
3) Jobo Image Tank G2 

For those without notebook there are two categories to choose from, 
HD based  CD based devices. If one has big Compact Flash card 
or big Microdrive then I doubt CD recorders are wise choice, 
to backup 4 GB microdrive to 700 MB CDs is very slow... 

So, to me the top two choices with big LCDs are: 
1) Archos AV340 Video Recorder [biggest LCD, plays DivX  XviD] 
2) FlashTrax SmartDisk [nice  big LCD, video playback] 

From CD recorders I like best Addonics MFR, since it's also DVD player, 
and as someone said, he has A.MFR and a small HDD device, good combo. 

I'd only buy portable CD recorder if I had to send copies around. 

But if some company comes out with DVD recorder, that would 
be much, much better device to choose. One could backup whole 
4 GB Microdrive to one DVD media. One could have tons of MP3s 
on DVD media, one could have it to watch DVD movies too, etc. 

I think any serious field photographer should have two devices: 
1. Small and light 12 tablet PC with DVD recorder for final backups 
2. Smallest and lightest portable HD based device for field usage 


Anyone want to add some other devices and opinions? 

There is much more into these devices than specs  prices of course :) 

Hope this helps to someone  good luck with your choices! 

Boyan 

P.S. Shop with good selection of portable devices: 
http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/s.nl/c.ACCT139057/sc.2/category.3/.f 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 April 2004 06:01
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
 
 
 In a message dated 4/22/2004 4:22:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use

RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Jens Bladt]

...and one more (20GB disc):
http://shop.oege-energy.info/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1427PHPSE
SSID=2ef6dfb7d87b11a34c01729cb7e96f40

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. april 2004 13:39
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


I just found one more digital storing device (besides Image Tank, Flash Trax
and Vosonic X-drive):
Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo (less than 200$). This one writes the images onto
640MB MO-discs, which allegedly gives more durable storage, than CD's or
DVD's.


Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. april 2004 07:01
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


In a message dated 4/22/2004 4:22:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use it for pictures, i
have tested it. The only issue i had was that i wont copy over the RAW
images, only jpeg's. The reason i wanted one was so that i could shoot RAW
and offload the images to it. oh well. I get over 250 pictures on a 512
card, so i've never had a reason to use it so far.

arnie
-
Hmmm, based on what Robert said, the Flashtrax is the only one that handles
RAW well (or at all). And I am thinking I want the option to shoot just RAW.
Anyway, I've settled on it, because it seems the best choice (though a bit
more
pricey than some). Eventually, when I save up some funds, that is, I am
pretty
sure that is the one I'll get.

Good to know, thanks. It says in the description it will copy JPEGS and
DATA,
and it wasn't clear what that data was.

Marnie aka Doe  This discussion refers to the Archos Gmini.

Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[John Francis]

 
 From dpreview, a full summary someone has posted:
 
 I've collected the important specifications info  included it in the
 list, 
 together with the prices via http://www.NexTag.com as of today: 

[list omitted to save space]

 Well, best choices depend on what you want and already have. 
 E.g. if you got a notebook, then you don't need big LCD on device, 
 and neither CD Recorder if you got one in notebook, 

That depends on whether you carry your notebook everywhere. I don't
(it's too large, too heavy, and too power-hungry for that).  I am
considering buying a FlashTrax to put in the pocket of my photo vest,
although I'm a little concerned that it too is overly power-hungry.

Even if you have a notebook with a CD burner, you might still want
to consider a copy-to-CD unit; if you are using your notebook as an
editing station for immediate image use you don't want to try burning
a CD at the same time.

 I think any serious field photographer should have two devices: 
 1. Small and light 12 tablet PC with DVD recorder for final backups 
 2. Smallest and lightest portable HD based device for field usage 

A 12 screen certainly isn't all that great for an editing station.
I'm still not convinced that a tablet PC works as a general-purpose
notebook replacement.  It's great for some things, but I think that
the compromises made to keep them small and light take away too much.
And, of course, they do cost quite a bit more.

Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Herb Chong]

MO drives are slow. i have owned several over the years. they have good
storage life, but that is about all.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


 I just found one more digital storing device (besides Image Tank, Flash
Trax
 and Vosonic X-drive):
 Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo (less than 200$). This one writes the images onto
 640MB MO-discs, which allegedly gives more durable storage, than CD's or
 DVD's.

RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Jens Bladt]

The Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo kan trasfer 12 Mb/sec.
Unloading a 512 Mb card should then take less than 1 minute (43 secs).
If you are using two RAM cards you can easily empty one onto the MO-disc
while shooting photograps on the other.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 23. april 2004 20:02
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


MO drives are slow. i have owned several over the years. they have good
storage life, but that is about all.

Herb
- Original Message -
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


 I just found one more digital storing device (besides Image Tank, Flash
Trax
 and Vosonic X-drive):
 Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo (less than 200$). This one writes the images onto
 640MB MO-discs, which allegedly gives more durable storage, than CD's or
 DVD's.

RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Amita Guha]

 - Archos Gmini 220 [~$260 for 20 GB]
 (2.5 HDD, MP3, USB 2.0, 68x78x23mm, 170g, Gray-scale 2.5 LCD) 

My husband has the Gmini 220 and he loves it. It also plays mp3s.

I have a friend who has the eFilm PicturePAD, which he likes a lot as
well.

Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Herb Chong]

try one. they don't except into the internal write buffer.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


 The Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo kan trasfer 12 Mb/sec.
 Unloading a 512 Mb card should then take less than 1 minute (43 secs).
 If you are using two RAM cards you can easily empty one onto the MO-disc
 while shooting photograps on the other.

RE: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Rob Studdert]

On 23 Apr 2004 at 21:29, Jens Bladt wrote:

 The Fujitsu DynaMo 640 Photo kan trasfer 12 Mb/sec.
 Unloading a 512 Mb card should then take less than 1 minute (43 secs).

Not according to Tom's hardware:

http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20031017/fujitsu-06.html

 If you are using two RAM cards you can easily empty one onto the MO-disc
 while shooting photograps on the other.

Carrying three MOs to dump each 2GB CF card seems a little impractical to me, 
plus at the cost of the media I'd rather be buying CF cards in five packs.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Eactivist]

I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load pictures from a 
flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am realizing that 
shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos than before and need a way 
to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will be coming my way 
shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop. 

So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1082646806/sr=1-2
/ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn=17228
2


I am wondering if anyone has used it or something similar. If another brand 
or another type of gadget, what? And what is your opinion of it?

Any input would be helpful.

TIA, Marnie aka Doe 

Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[alex wetmore]

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load pictures from a
 flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am realizing that
 shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos than before and need a way
 to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will be coming my way
 shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop.

 So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1082646806/sr=1-2
 /ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn=17228
 2

This link goes to a GMini 120.

There are many many similar gadgets.  I would recommend doing a search
on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device that
you are considering.

I'll probably pick up a GMini 220 at some point.  They have somewhat
mixed reviews though.  Specifically the battery is not field replacable,
which really limits how many times you can use it on a trip unless
you have access to AC power.

Currently I'm using a 4g Microdrive and I expect this to keep me going
through the summer.  They are $200 if you buy a Creative Labs MuVo2
and remove the drive.  I bought my MuVo2 from JR Music World.  They
are backordered everywhere, but JR got me the unit in about two weeks
which wasn't too bad.

With the 4gb Microdrive you get about 280 RAW pictures or 990+ L***
JPEGs on the Pentax *ist D.

alex

Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Rob Studdert]

On 22 Apr 2004 at 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am wondering if anyone has used it or something similar. If another brand or
 another type of gadget, what? And what is your opinion of it?

I'm using an X-Drive II (as are a few people here) with an 80GB drive, it was 
much less expensive than any other similar products but it is pretty basic, no 
bells and whistles. It is a USB2 device and connected to my PC via USB2 
interface it can sustain about 4.3MB/s from a card of the integrated HDD. 
However the transfer speed from the card to the integrated HDD is less 
spectacular, just over 1MB/s so a full 2GB card takes about 32 minutes. The 
internal L-ion rechargable battery is supposed to have a 6 hour life but I 
suspect it's somewhat shorter than this, I haven't yet tempted fate to find 
out.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

RE: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Jens Bladt]

Doesn't this reqiure a computer, a USB cable and a card reader?
I would prefere a Flash Trax, a Vosonic X-drive, or an Image Tank, that can
read several types of memorycards (for different cameras) and seem more
convenient, since I don't need anything besides this, my camera and card to
unload the pics. The Flash Trax even has a screen to view the shots! Solifor
makes one that can even burn a CD on location!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 22. april 2004 17:42
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load pictures from a
 flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am realizing
that
 shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos than before and
need a way
 to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will be coming my
way
 shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop.

 So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1082646806/sr=1
-2

/ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn=172
28
 2

This link goes to a GMini 120.

There are many many similar gadgets.  I would recommend doing a search
on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device that
you are considering.

I'll probably pick up a GMini 220 at some point.  They have somewhat
mixed reviews though.  Specifically the battery is not field replacable,
which really limits how many times you can use it on a trip unless
you have access to AC power.

Currently I'm using a 4g Microdrive and I expect this to keep me going
through the summer.  They are $200 if you buy a Creative Labs MuVo2
and remove the drive.  I bought my MuVo2 from JR Music World.  They
are backordered everywhere, but JR got me the unit in about two weeks
which wasn't too bad.

With the 4gb Microdrive you get about 280 RAW pictures or 990+ L***
JPEGs on the Pentax *ist D.

alex

RE: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Rob Brigham]

I think the gmini does have a screen, albeit a very low res mono one.
It also has a CF slot.  It wont view RAW files though - only flashtrax
does that.  I think the Gmini does have better battery life than the
flashtrax though, but wont play mp3s or AVIs if that is of interest
(whereas flashtrax will).

The gmini is a cheap and cheerful job which does basic file holding, is
fairly small and allows you to preview jpgs to make sure the file is
intact.

The flashtrax has a better screen, bigger disc, views RAW files, plays
mp3s  AVIs and has superlative support from the manufacturer (Archos is
poor in this area I believe).

It's a toss up between better functionality and less money I think...
If you use RAW there is no choice IMO.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 April 2004 17:27
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
 
 
 Doesn't this reqiure a computer, a USB cable and a card 
 reader? I would prefere a Flash Trax, a Vosonic X-drive, or 
 an Image Tank, that can read several types of memorycards 
 (for different cameras) and seem more convenient, since I 
 don't need anything besides this, my camera and card to 
 unload the pics. The Flash Trax even has a screen to view the 
 shots! Solifor makes one that can even burn a CD on location!
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 22. april 2004 17:42
 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Emne: Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)
 
 
 On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load 
 pictures from 
  a flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am 
  realizing
 that
  shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos 
 than before 
  and
 need a way
  to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will 
 be coming 
  my
 way
  shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop.
 
  So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1
082646806/sr=1
-2

/ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn
=172
28
 2

This link goes to a GMini 120.

There are many many similar gadgets.  I would recommend doing a search
on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device
that you are considering.

I'll probably pick up a GMini 220 at some point.  They have somewhat
mixed reviews though.  Specifically the battery is not field replacable,
which really limits how many times you can use it on a trip unless you
have access to AC power.

Currently I'm using a 4g Microdrive and I expect this to keep me going
through the summer.  They are $200 if you buy a Creative Labs MuVo2 and
remove the drive.  I bought my MuVo2 from JR Music World.  They are
backordered everywhere, but JR got me the unit in about two weeks which
wasn't too bad.

With the 4gb Microdrive you get about 280 RAW pictures or 990+ L***
JPEGs on the Pentax *ist D.

alex

Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/22/2004 9:36:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would recommend doing a search
on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device
that you are considering.

-
Yeah, but, you know, the manufacturers' don't call these things all by the 
same name, as in Compact Flash card. So it's hard to search for them anywhere. 
In google and Amazon I plug in portable drive and get some. But it would be 
nice if they had a generic name (portable drive with built-in card reader, or 6 
in 1, or 4 in 1 reader -- of course some are MP3 players and some are not -- 
but they are variously called photo wallets, digital photo albums, portable 
drive, etc., etc.).

Thus, I've already learned a lot from the answers in this thread so far.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Re: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Try USB drive that tends to bring up a lot of hits.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 4/22/2004 9:36:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I would recommend doing a search
 on dpreview's (http://www.dpreview.com) storage forum for any device
 that you are considering.
 
 -
 Yeah, but, you know, the manufacturers' don't call these things all by the
 same name, as in Compact Flash card. So it's hard to search for them anywhere.
 In google and Amazon I plug in portable drive and get some. But it would be
 nice if they had a generic name (portable drive with built-in card reader, or 6
 in 1, or 4 in 1 reader -- of course some are MP3 players and some are not --
 but they are variously called photo wallets, digital photo albums, portable
 drive, etc., etc.).
 
 Thus, I've already learned a lot from the answers in this thread so far.
 
 Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[arnie]

I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use it for pictures, i
have tested it. The only issue i had was that i wont copy over the RAW
images, only jpeg's. The reason i wanted one was so that i could shoot RAW
and offload the images to it. oh well. I get over 250 pictures on a 512
card, so i've never had a reason to use it so far.

arnie

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:17 AM
Subject: OT: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)


 I am looking into storage for my DSLR, so I can off-load pictures from a
 flash card in the field, wipe the card, and start over. I am realizing
that
 shooting with a DSLR I will be shooting tons more photos than before and
need a way
 to increase my storage capacity. A bit of extra money will be coming my
way
 shortly. However, not enough for me to want to get a laptop.

 So, so far this looks like a fairly good idea:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BE6FY7/qid=1082646806/sr=1-2

/ref=sr_1_2_etk-electronics/002-9840715-2164845?v=glances=electronicsn=172
28
 2


 I am wondering if anyone has used it or something similar. If another
brand
 or another type of gadget, what? And what is your opinion of it?

 Any input would be helpful.

 TIA, Marnie aka Doe

Re: New Gadgets, New Toys (Photo/CF Storage)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/22/2004 4:22:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have one, and though i've never actually needed to use it for pictures, i
have tested it. The only issue i had was that i wont copy over the RAW
images, only jpeg's. The reason i wanted one was so that i could shoot RAW
and offload the images to it. oh well. I get over 250 pictures on a 512
card, so i've never had a reason to use it so far.

arnie
-
Hmmm, based on what Robert said, the Flashtrax is the only one that handles 
RAW well (or at all). And I am thinking I want the option to shoot just RAW. 
Anyway, I've settled on it, because it seems the best choice (though a bit more 
pricey than some). Eventually, when I save up some funds, that is, I am pretty 
sure that is the one I'll get.

Good to know, thanks. It says in the description it will copy JPEGS and DATA, 
and it wasn't clear what that data was. 

Marnie aka Doe  This discussion refers to the Archos Gmini.

My new toys and interesting trivia

[Bill Owens]

Some of you may remember my yard sale Mamiya Super 23 and Metz 45 CT1.  The
Mamiya has been converted into a 500mm mirror lens.  Although it says
Quantaray, it's the Samyang Keppler mentions in the latest edition of Pop
Photo.  I haven't had a chance to do more that play with it in the yard yet,
but seems to be pretty decent. There is a fair amount of fall off around the
edges, but, condidering what it is, the colors and sharpness are pretty
good.  If I'm able to keep bright highlights out of the bokeh areas, the
doughnuts are not visible.

I've been using it on the P30t, and discovered something interesting about
it.  Although the manual says a cable switch is necessary to use the cable
release socket (mounted on the side of the lens mount), I've found that a
standard, run of the mill cable release works just fine.  I'm guessing that
what happens is that when depressed, the circuit is completed just like a PC
flash terminal.  There's no give, just depress the release and the shutter
fires.

Bill

Re: My new toys and interesting trivia

[Dr E D F Williams]

I've been using two very ordinary cable releases with my P30T since it
arrived and have had no problems. I guess they make electrical contact. The
manual say's use a Switch OR Cable Release 50 and adds cable release 30
won't work.

Don
___
Dr E D F Williams
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:46 PM
Subject: My new toys and interesting trivia


 Some of you may remember my yard sale Mamiya Super 23 and Metz 45 CT1.
The
 Mamiya has been converted into a 500mm mirror lens.  Although it says
 Quantaray, it's the Samyang Keppler mentions in the latest edition of Pop
 Photo.  I haven't had a chance to do more that play with it in the yard
yet,
 but seems to be pretty decent. There is a fair amount of fall off around
the
 edges, but, condidering what it is, the colors and sharpness are pretty
 good.  If I'm able to keep bright highlights out of the bokeh areas, the
 doughnuts are not visible.

 I've been using it on the P30t, and discovered something interesting about
 it.  Although the manual says a cable switch is necessary to use the
cable
 release socket (mounted on the side of the lens mount), I've found that a
 standard, run of the mill cable release works just fine.  I'm guessing
that
 what happens is that when depressed, the circuit is completed just like a
PC
 flash terminal.  There's no give, just depress the release and the
shutter
 fires.

 Bill

Re: New toys!

[Camdir]

'Of course! It is really not much! Once again, and I will put your name in
my killfile ;-)'

I should just put it in now if I were you

I had a lot of other stuff to buy! 

Ho hum.

Peter





-- 
CAMERA DIRECT
8 DORSET STREET
BRIGHTON
EAST SUSSEX
BN2 1WA
UK
TEL 44 1273 681129
FAX 44 1273 681135
http://www.camera-direct.com

New Toys

[Camdir]

Just arrived:

LX version 1 c/w non removeable prism - yes. it's a rare one this.
Z1 
KX chrome x 2
MG chrome
85mm F1.8 K 
50mm F4 SMC Tak M42 macro
28mm F3.5 SMC Tak  Shade
28-80 FA
Tokina 17mm 
FB1/FC1 combo
FD1
AF280T
Cable release F
Benbo Mk1 early
Manfrotto 058  029 head
Russian M42 Bellows
BPM K bellows with slide copier
cute little Orion Trekker bag

Cheers

Peter

Re: New Toys

[Steve Larson]

Wow, must be a prototype?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LX version 1 c/w non removeable prism - yes. it's a rare one this.

RE: New Toys

[Rob Brigham]

LOL!!

Must show this link to others, cheers!

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 14 February 2003 16:30
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Toys
 
 
 Wow, must be a prototype?
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   LX version 1 c/w non removeable prism - yes. it's a rare one 
  this.
 
 It' probably removeable with proper tool.  First try to work it out 
 with the back part of a hammer.  If no success the front part should 
 be used.  Brian Ayling is my master.  He's seen at work at
 
http://www.hermes.net.au/bayling/repair.html

Andre
-- 

Re: New Toys

[Keith Whaley]

Hi Bill,

Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote:
 
 Keith Whaley wrote:
  I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is to
  remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there...  [Snip]
 
 Uh, Keith  Do ya suppose that the battery cover is engaging on the
 O-ring (which it probably is), then pushing down enough on that engaged
 O-ring as you screw in the cover, such that the positive metal contact on
 the battery case is not even making contact with the inside surface of the
 cover?  Before surrendering to the repairman, I'd be tempted to find a
 larger button cell that will fit in the compartment properly.  

Which is sprecisely what I did. I got a proper battery made by Varta,
right size and all...and it works just fine.
My jury-rigged attempt just needed too much messing around. 
It helps to do it right!  grin

keith whaley

 Just the
 other day, somebody mentioned a currently manufactured size that fits --
 maybe your local office supply store would be a good place to check, since
 Office Depot seems to carry a good selection around here (Rochester, NY).
 Or, use the O-ring, but stuff a little wad of foil between the top of the
 battery and the inside surface of the door?
 
 Good luck!  Let us know how you make out.
 
 Bill Peifer
 Rochester, NY

Re: New Toys

[Chris Brogden]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LX version 1 c/w non removeable prism - yes. it's a rare one this.

Does anyone know anything about this?  I've never heard of it before.

chris

Re: New toys

[Andre Langevin]

From Peter:
Worth mentioning:
28mm F3.5 M - not seen one of these before.


Not nearly as common as the 2.8...


24mm F2.8 M - tidy but I still prefer the 24-35.


Yeah, more versatile and it's sharp from 5.6 on, but check out its 
distorsion at 24mm.  Allegedly, it doesn't matter if you're in nature 
photography.

Andre

--

Re: New Toys

[Camdir]

 Well, Peter, you seem to lump K and M lenses together on your (new
 equipment) Other Brands page, anyhow...
 
 And, speaking of your Other Brands page, weren't you supposed to
 make this a Pentax page a few months ago?  Hmmm?
  

Fred. I will mail you off list the URL of a new test site. I would like your 
reactions. I suppose this has been up for a while but I never seem to be able 
to set aside the time to assess it properly.

Kind regards

Peter

Re: New Toys

[Camdir]

 K2 'chrome' probably the nicest one I have seen for ages.

Even better than mine? ;)  I've had it fixed since I was in your neck of 
the woods...

 ERC for K2

What's an ERC?

Dave I can't even remember. About the same as yours? Ever Ready Case. Or 
frequently Never Ready Case.

Peter

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[Peter Alling]

Winston Churchill on his changing parties between the world wars I believe.

At 01:32 PM 1/1/2003 +, you wrote:

Just remember, if you aren't a Liberal by the time you are 20, you have
no heart.  If you aren't a Conservative by the time you are 40, you
have no brain.  ;-)  Just another Rushism.  ;-)

On Wednesday 01 January 2003 07:23 pm, Treena wrote:
 What I do find amusing is the kids today who are
 fresh out of college and begin writing politically-based editorials,
 arguing either a liberal or conservative view, when it's clear they
 have no real understanding of either.

--
Ken Archer Canine Photography
San Antonio, Texas
Business Is Going To The Dogs


Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[Dan Scott]

On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:20  PM, frank theriault wrote:



This is too scary.  I gotta go back in the archives, to see who said 
what in
the recent Golden Ratio debate.  This should be interesting...

Happy New Years!!!

-frank


Frank, you are a braver man than me. g


Dan Scott

RE: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[tom]

I'm #3.

--
Thomas Van Veen Photography
www.bigdayphoto.com
301-758-3085 

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 
 holy cow!
 
 I used to be a philosphy major, too.  Of course, back when 
 I took it, it was
 far different than it is today g.
 
 This is too scary.  I gotta go back in the archives, to see 
 who said what in
 the recent Golden Ratio debate.  This should be interesting...
 
 Happy New Years!!!
 
 -frank
 
 Dan Scott wrote:
 
  snip
 
  Happy New Year!
 
  Dan Scott (also formerly a philosophy major)
 
 --
 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible 
 worlds. The pessimist
 fears it is true. -J. Robert
 Oppenheimer
 
 

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[frank theriault]

You're number 4.  Steve Desjardins mentioned his dark past as well.  I
think this deserves a new thread (stay tuned).

ciao,
frank

tom wrote:

 I'm #3.

 --
 Thomas Van Veen Photography
 www.bigdayphoto.com
 301-758-3085

  -Original Message-
  From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 
  holy cow!
 
  I used to be a philosphy major, too.  Of course, back when

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer

RE: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[David Chang-Sang]

I have a minor in Philosophy.. mind you.. it's not classical philosophy
but instead bioethics.

I guess I could argue the morality of using a Pentax within the confines of
human experimentation...  ;-)

Cheers,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings


You're number 4.  Steve Desjardins mentioned his dark past as well.  I
think this deserves a new thread (stay tuned).

ciao,
frank

tom wrote:

 I'm #3.

 --
 Thomas Van Veen Photography
 www.bigdayphoto.com
 301-758-3085

  -Original Message-
  From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 
  holy cow!
 
  I used to be a philosphy major, too.  Of course, back when

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[Dan Scott]

On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 09:18  AM, David Chang-Sang wrote:


I have a minor in Philosophy.. mind you.. it's not classical 
philosophy
but instead bioethics.

I guess I could argue the morality of using a Pentax within the 
confines of
human experimentation...  ;-)

Cheers,
Dave


Is it moral? g

Dan Scott

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[Dan Scott]

On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 07:02  AM, tom wrote:


I'm #3.


Hmm, is there a link between a fondness for Pentax and a questioning 
mind?

Dan Scott

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[Treena]

My degree is in journalism, but my minors are behavioral psychology and
political philosophy. I'm about three classes away from a degree in each of
those, should I choose to finish them, and I did (with permission) begin
graduate work in political philosophy. It's been more helpful than I ever
thought it would be, although it would be difficult to argue about Pentax
from a philosophical viewpoint, like, say -- fascism. :) What I do find
amusing is the kids today who are fresh out of college and begin writing
politically-based editorials, arguing either a liberal or conservative view,
when it's clear they have no real understanding of either.

- Original Message -
From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings



 On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 09:18  AM, David Chang-Sang wrote:

  I have a minor in Philosophy.. mind you.. it's not classical
  philosophy
  but instead bioethics.
 
  I guess I could argue the morality of using a Pentax within the
  confines of
  human experimentation...  ;-)
 
  Cheers,
  Dave
 

 Is it moral? g

 Dan Scott

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[Ken Archer]

Just remember, if you aren't a Liberal by the time you are 20, you have 
no heart.  If you aren't a Conservative by the time you are 40, you 
have no brain.  ;-)  Just another Rushism.  ;-)

On Wednesday 01 January 2003 07:23 pm, Treena wrote:
 What I do find amusing is the kids today who are
 fresh out of college and begin writing politically-based editorials,
 arguing either a liberal or conservative view, when it's clear they
 have no real understanding of either.

-- 
Ken Archer Canine Photography
San Antonio, Texas
Business Is Going To The Dogs

Re: Vs: Philosophy majors. (was; RE: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings)

[eactivist]

In a message dated 1/1/2003 2:27:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Frank Theriault wrote:
 
 holy cow!
 
  I used to be a philosophy major, too
 
 and Tom Van Veen wrote;
 
 I'm #3.
 
 Well, I'm #4, although I never got close to finishing college.
 
 I wonder how many more PDMLers were either Philosophy 
 majors, minors, or
 have a deep interest in things philosophical?

I was an art major. Then in my thirties I returned to college and switched my major to 
computer science. That might seem to be quite a switch, but a crafting a good bug-free 
(or fairly bug-free) computer program is also an art form. 

Which doesn't contribute to the premises of this thread at all.

Doe aka Marnie   Hehehe.

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[Dan Scott]

On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 07:53  AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:



  I am going to retreat to my cave, ie darkroom, printing
trough
  all the new year celebrations :) 

Actually, Plato's analogy of the cave with shadows on the wall in the
Republic sounds like a darkroom to me. And speaking from experience, I
completely agree that philosophy is best done with a glass.

Happy New Year, Y'all !

Steve (formerly a philosophy major)



Me, too. But, with pixels in my case. Got to get this year's family 
pics up on the web before the year ends—don't want to get labeled a 
procrastinator. g

Happy New Year!

Dan Scott (also formerly a philosophy major)

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[frank theriault]

holy cow!

I used to be a philosphy major, too.  Of course, back when I took it, it was
far different than it is today g.

This is too scary.  I gotta go back in the archives, to see who said what in
the recent Golden Ratio debate.  This should be interesting...

Happy New Years!!!

-frank

Dan Scott wrote:

 snip

 Happy New Year!

 Dan Scott (also formerly a philosophy major)

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer

nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[Frantisek Vlcek]

Hello to all,
  I am going to retreat to my cave, ie darkroom, printing trough
  all the new year celebrations :) With few glasses inbetween with
  friends of course. Being one very happy Pentax user with few
  items I got on weekend (LX winder, hurah! and a mountaineer's dream -
  M 4/75-150), I don't feel like discussing equipment, golden mean
  or politics :) Perhaps I should post a very offensive thread
  about Mr.Shrubbery to stop all the golden schmean ramblings ;-)
  I can also stop worrying if my lens is a big worse than the K
  version of it, or the FA, etc, and just enjoy it ;-)
  
  I have to play with my new toys now, as I have two pentax X
  cameras now, that's all I need. MX for stealth, LX for else. I
  will sell few others, see the separate.

  So enjoy the new year (whose calendar ends a year now),
  and you others with different calendars don't get too upset at
  the noise :)

  And all you philosophy quarrelers, philosophy is best discussed
  over a glass, really!

  unsubscribe, really, I promise, I know I promised few days ago,
  but sometimes it's addictive :)

Good light,
 Frantisek Vlcek

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

[frank theriault]

Ni!!

Glad you're enjoying your new toys, Frantisek.

Batman had the Bat Cave.  You have the Vicek Cave.  Off we go, Robin!

Happy New Year to you too.

cheers,
frank

Frantisek Vlcek wrote:

 Hello to all,
   I am going to retreat to my cave, ie darkroom, printing trough
   all the new year celebrations :) With few glasses inbetween with
   friends of course. Being one very happy Pentax user with few
   items I got on weekend (LX winder, hurah! and a mountaineer's dream -
   M 4/75-150), I don't feel like discussing equipment, golden mean
   or politics :) Perhaps I should post a very offensive thread
   about Mr.Shrubbery to stop all the golden schmean ramblings ;-)
   I can also stop worrying if my lens is a big worse than the K
   version of it, or the FA, etc, and just enjoy it ;-)

   I have to play with my new toys now, as I have two pentax X
   cameras now, that's all I need. MX for stealth, LX for else. I
   will sell few others, see the separate.

   So enjoy the new year (whose calendar ends a year now),
   and you others with different calendars don't get too upset at
   the noise :)

   And all you philosophy quarrelers, philosophy is best discussed
   over a glass, really!

   unsubscribe, really, I promise, I know I promised few days ago,
   but sometimes it's addictive :)

 Good light,
  Frantisek Vlcek

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer

New Toys

[Camdir]

Which would you choose: the 35mm F2 FA-AL, or the 35mm F3.5K? 

Our man chose the former so we have the latter available. I had to hold off 
telling you all about it 'til he had made his choice. An extremely nice 
example, I must say. Cased, too.

Kind regards

Peter

New toys

[Camdir]

Unearthed a pile of (predominantly) lens cases.
HG90 
HB90B (my info says 50mm F1.2 A)
HA90B (all the 28 and 35mm manual M A lenses - ok -not the PC)
120mm Case

6x7 Prism Case
6x7 Teleconverter? Case

oh, and an MX Winder, a 200mm F4 M, and some scruffy ME-Supers.

Kind regards 

Peter

Re: Macro and extension tubes, was: Re: New Toys

[Anthony Farr]

Bill,

Full helicoid extension on the 100/4 macro gives 1:2 magnification and
requires plus one stop exposure correction.  Adding the 50mm tube permits a
magnification range from 1:2 when the focus ring is on infinity (the same as
the fully extended lens with no tube) to 1:1 when the helicoid is fully
extended.  At 1:1 the exposure correction is plus 2 stops.  This assumes
that you're not using TTL metering which would be more or less self
correcting.  However, beware of the effect of mirror cutoff at long
extensions if your cameras meter is above the screen (less light will get to
the finder than to the film, so the meter will cause overexposure).  Below
the mirror or OTF meter cells won't be affected by mirror cutoff.

The matched extension tubes for the old macro lenses would be nice to have
for my two M series macro lenses.  Alas I have to make do with the set of
three manual tubes with the odd lengths that Pentax in their wisdom chose,
perhaps they were getting into the Limited frame of mind as long ago as
that.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Which brings another question to my feeble mind.  Would adding an
additional
 50mm of extension to a lens that is already extended increase exposure by
 one stop, or is this too simple to be feasible?  :-)

 Bill
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Re: Macro and extension tubes, was: Re: New Toys

[Anthony Farr]

To clarify any confusion I may have caused, TTL metering DOES NOT eliminate
the loss of exposure that goes with lens extension, it simply corrects for
the loss without requiring any input from the photographer.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message -
From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(snip)
 This assumes
 that you're not using TTL metering which would be more or less self
 correcting.
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Re: New Toys

[Anthony Farr]

The helicoid on the 100/4 Macro extends 50mm on its own.  Add that to a 50mm
tube and you get 100mm extension therefore 1:1 magnification.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(earlier message snipped)

 Wouldn't an extension tube have to give enough extension to extend the
lens
 to 100mm (in this case)?  I'm under the impression that it takes enough
 extension to equal the focal length to get 1:1. Or something like that :-)

 Bill
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Macro and extension tubes, was: Re: New Toys

[Bill Owens]

Which brings another question to my feeble mind.  Would adding an additional
50mm of extension to a lens that is already extended increase exposure by
one stop, or is this too simple to be feasible?  :-)

Bill

- Original Message -
From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: New Toys


 The helicoid on the 100/4 Macro extends 50mm on its own.  Add that to a
50mm
 tube and you get 100mm extension therefore 1:1 magnification.

 Regards,
 Anthony Farr
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Re: Macro and extension tubes, was: Re: New Toys

[Christian Skofteland]

On Thursday 15 August 2002 11:00, Bill Owens wrote:
 Which brings another question to my feeble mind.  Would adding an
 additional 50mm of extension to a lens that is already extended increase
 exposure by one stop, or is this too simple to be feasible?  :-)

 Bill


Bill;

Adding extension by whatever means increases exposure.  For example, my 
vivitar S1 105/2.5 has 100mm of built in extension for 1:1 magnification.  As 
I focus closer the exposure changes, ie f2.5 at infinity 1.5 - 2 stops 
difference at close focus.  I can then add more extension via tubes or 
bellows or whatever and this would change the exposure again.

I've learned to rely on the LX's TTL meter and just compensate for tonal 
variation.  If you use a handheld meter the calculations become a nightmare.

HTH

Christian
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Re: New Toys

[Keith Whaley]

William and all...
Back from my trip to the camera store. I didn't know they had so many
battery alternatives!
These guys had sealed Wein (air-zinc) cells that replace the 625
mercury cells, as well as 1.5 v. Varta (German) size 625 alkalines,
called V625U, that fit the Spotmatic F perfectly.
And yes, I put one in my F and it works like a champ!
No more fussing around with stop gap measures.

I know what I'm doing this weekend!  ;^)
Thing is, my previous (and still) main camera is my ME. While that
takes K-mount lenses, I only have two of that breed, but all my other
lenses are M-42, which is perfect for the Spotmatic.

As was my intention, I made out on this deal. I now have two Pentax
bodies and plenty of lenses.

Thanks for everyone's help.

BTW, I noticed that on this list there are an equal number of folks
who use Spotmatic Fs and MEs ~ 42 each.
Nice to know there are others with good taste here too!
[...ducking...]  g

keith whaley


Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote:
 
 Keith Whaley wrote:
  I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is to
  remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there...  [Snip]
 
 Uh, Keith  Do ya suppose that the battery cover is engaging on the
 O-ring (which it probably is), then pushing down enough on that engaged
 O-ring as you screw in the cover, such that the positive metal contact on
 the battery case is not even making contact with the inside surface of the
 cover?  Before surrendering to the repairman, I'd be tempted to find a
 larger button cell that will fit in the compartment properly.  Just the
 other day, somebody mentioned a currently manufactured size that fits --
 maybe your local office supply store would be a good place to check, since
 Office Depot seems to carry a good selection around here (Rochester, NY).
 Or, use the O-ring, but stuff a little wad of foil between the top of the
 battery and the inside surface of the door?
 
 Good luck!  Let us know how you make out.
 
 Bill Peifer
 Rochester, NY
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Re: Re: New Toys

[David Brooks]

LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
in your area :)

Dave

 Begin Original Message 

From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Toys


Good onya, Butch!
The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available 
batteries?

keith whaley




Pentax User
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Re: New Toys

[Keith Whaley]

I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
says it's an acceptable alternative.
Anyhow, that's good to hear.

My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
purchase deal!
But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought back...

The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?

Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.

keith whaley

David Brooks wrote:
 
 LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
 in your area :)
 
 Dave
 
  Begin Original Message 
 
 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Toys
 
 Good onya, Butch!
 The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
 Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
 batteries?
 
 keith whaley
 
 Pentax User
 Stouffville Ontario Canada
 http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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Re: New Toys

[Peter Alling]

I know it sounds stupid but it can happen to anyone.  Did you get the 
polarity right?

At 09:58 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
says it's an acceptable alternative.
Anyhow, that's good to hear.

My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
purchase deal!
But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought back...

The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?

Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.

keith whaley

David Brooks wrote:
 
  LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
  in your area :)
 
  Dave
 
   Begin Original Message 
 
  From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: New Toys
 
  Good onya, Butch!
  The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
  Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
  batteries?
 
  keith whaley
 
  Pentax User
  Stouffville Ontario Canada
  http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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Re: New Toys

[Keith Whaley]

Hah! That's the first thing I thought of. I had that + on the inside
of the cover engraved in my mind!

I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is
to remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there, and clean the
cover's insides well, as well as the spring contact inside the body.
They both looked clean, but another gentle rubbing with a pencil
eraser and some cleaner can't hurt.

keith

Peter Alling wrote:
 
 I know it sounds stupid but it can happen to anyone.  Did you get the
 polarity right?

 
 At 09:58 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
 says it's an acceptable alternative.
 Anyhow, that's good to hear.
 
 My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
 up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
 battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
 it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
 purchase deal!
 But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought back...
 
 The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
 unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?
 
 Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.
 
 keith whaley
 
 David Brooks wrote:
  
   LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
   in your area :)
  
   Dave
  
    Begin Original Message 
  
   From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: New Toys
  
   Good onya, Butch!
   The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
   Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
   batteries?
  
   keith whaley
  
   Pentax User
   Stouffville Ontario Canada
   http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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Re: New Toys

[Peter Alling]

You might also gently lift the contact at the bottom of the battery holder 
and make
sure that the new battery is making positive contact with the cover.

At 10:44 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hah! That's the first thing I thought of. I had that + on the inside
of the cover engraved in my mind!

I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is
to remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there, and clean the
cover's insides well, as well as the spring contact inside the body.
They both looked clean, but another gentle rubbing with a pencil
eraser and some cleaner can't hurt.

keith

Peter Alling wrote:
 
  I know it sounds stupid but it can happen to anyone.  Did you get the
  polarity right?


  At 09:58 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
  I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
  says it's an acceptable alternative.
  Anyhow, that's good to hear.
  
  My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
  up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
  battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
  it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
  purchase deal!
  But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought 
 back...
  
  The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
  unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?
  
  Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.
  
  keith whaley
  
  David Brooks wrote:
   
LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
in your area :)
   
Dave
   
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From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Toys
   
Good onya, Butch!
The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
batteries?
   
keith whaley
   
Pentax User
Stouffville Ontario Canada
http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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Re: New Toys

[Fred]

 After a couple minutes of fiddling around (it's 11:30 PM and I've
 been up since 6 AM) I realized that what I had was the 1:1 adapter
 for the 100/4 M macro (somewhat rare and pricey?)

Hmmm...  I was not aware of any 1:1 adapter for any Pentax 100mm
macro.  (But I was not aware does not preclude the actual
existence of same - g.)  Are you sure it's not actually a TC or an
extension tube?  (I think a 50mm - I'm not sure of the exact length
- extension tube is typically used to give 1:1 with some of the
100mm macros.)  What markings (if any) does it have?  Does it have
any internal glass (as opposed to a hollow extension tube)?

Fred
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Re: New Toys

[Keith Whaley]

It also occurs to me the rubber o-ring might be exerting a little too
much force on the battery, and keeping it away from good contact with
the cover...
Both items worth looking at.
I will make that a project today.

Thanks,  keith whaley

Peter Alling wrote:
 
 You might also gently lift the contact at the bottom of the battery holder
 and make
 sure that the new battery is making positive contact with the cover.

 
 At 10:44 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 Hah! That's the first thing I thought of. I had that + on the inside
 of the cover engraved in my mind!
 
 I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is
 to remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there, and clean the
 cover's insides well, as well as the spring contact inside the body.
 They both looked clean, but another gentle rubbing with a pencil
 eraser and some cleaner can't hurt.
 
 keith
 
 Peter Alling wrote:
  
   I know it sounds stupid but it can happen to anyone.  Did you get the
   polarity right?
 
 
   At 09:58 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
   I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
   says it's an acceptable alternative.
   Anyhow, that's good to hear.
   
   My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
   up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
   battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
   it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
   purchase deal!
   But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought
  back...
   
   The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
   unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?
   
   Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.
   
   keith whaley
   
   David Brooks wrote:

 LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
 in your area :)

 Dave

  Begin Original Message 

 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Toys

 Good onya, Butch!
 The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
 Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
 batteries?

 keith whaley

 Pentax User
 Stouffville Ontario Canada
 http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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