Re: OT Non-Pentax camera review - Camp Snap

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 11.07.24 um 19:47 schrieb Scott Loveless:

OK, "review" is probably optimistic.  I got this camera a couple days
ago and have really been enjoying it.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7ysAmiSTJhFwDTQr5

This is the Camp Snap camera. It was designed to be a cheap (really
cheap) alternative to disposable film cameras


This sort of cheap plastic gear appears to be all the rage, lately. See 
also the Long Weekend camera 'designed' by Flemish/American 
photographer/influencer Willem Verbeek:


https://www.shopmoment.com/products/long-weekend-35mm-film-camera?variant=48381915234619

They even appear to all take the same kind of photos... ;-)

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OT Non-Pentax camera review - Camp Snap

[Scott Loveless]

OK, "review" is probably optimistic.  I got this camera a couple days
ago and have really been enjoying it.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7ysAmiSTJhFwDTQr5

This is the Camp Snap camera. It was designed to be a cheap (really
cheap) alternative to disposable film cameras that a parent could send
to camp with their kids. My daughter gave me one for my birthday and
I've been carrying it around taking horrible pictures for the last few
days. Take a look at the photo album for a couple sample photos I took
while walking the dog this morning, along with a few photos of the
camera itself. I'll add a few more shortly.  2.54cm per inch, for
those of you in less civilized places...

The not so good:
It's cheap, as in cheaply made. The textured grip on the front is
cheap adhesive plastic and has already started to peel at the corners.
On the plus side, I anticipate replacing it with fun colors and
designs in the not-so-distant future. The body is cheap plastic and
really does feel like a 90s drug store disposable.

The viewfinder is more of a suggestion. Even without glasses on and my
face pressed right up against it, it might show 60% of what's actually
going to be captured. The best way to work with this is to simply put
the part of your subject that you want in the middle, in the middle,
and then pray. Adjust in post. In addition to the severe crop, the
viewfinder is fuzzy. It looks out of focus all the time, regardless of
the distance from the subject.

Resulting images are super grainy in low-light situations. This was
expected. I'll try to add some more photos to the album in a bit
showing this.

There's an annoying double beep when turning the camera on, a single
beep when turning it off, and a fake shutter noise when taking a
picture. There is no way to disable these sounds. I may put some tape
on the speaker.

The not so bad:
There are no "settings" that can be adjusted in the camera itself. In
fact, there are two controls on the camera. The shutter release is
also the power button. Long press to turn it off or on, and a short
press to take a picture. There's a 3 position switch for the flash.
On/Off/Auto. That's it. There is no other way to manipulate the camera
while in use. Some might see this as crippling, but I think it's
perfect considering the camera's intended use.

The "settings" are adjusted by flashing a new firmware to the camera.
This is easy to do and clearly documented on their support site.
Currently, there are 3 options: standard, vintage, and black & white.
The two photos in the album were taken with the vintage firmware. It
makes the photos a bit greener than I'd like. I intend to try the B
firmware soon. There were apparently earlier firmware versions that
disabled the beeps and clicks, but they don't seem to be available at
the moment. I'd like to know more about this, and think it would be
really cool if they published some instructions for editing the
firmware.

The camera isn't aware of rotation. If you take a vertical photo,
you'll need to rotate it later on your computer.

It's literally point and shoot. No thinking, no focusing, heck, no
composing. It's light, and it's not uncomfortable to hold. The only
display is a photo counter on the back. They state about 500 pictures
on a charge. Once the card is wiped, the counter resets. This also
starts the file naming over. There are no date/time stamps. You have
to figure this out for yourself when copying them over to a PC. I'm
working on a script to automagically do some of this for me.

Speaking of which, it connects to your computer or phone with a USB-C
cable. Not some janky leftover mini-USB garbage like every other cheap
POS electronic device. USB-C. That's really cool.

The camera comes with an SD card pre-installed. It's behind a screwed
on plate. I assume it can be replaced, but I haven't tried.

The good:
It fits in my pocket. It's cheap (to buy), costing about the same as 3
disposable 35mm cameras and processing. This is the most fun I've had
with a camera in a long, long time. Highly recommended.


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Re: Partially OT, 2nd quarter faves

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Thanks Rick and Ralf

> On Jul 2, 2024, at 6:25 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Larry, these are very nice. I have some questions:
> 
> Did you California types have a partial solar eclipse that allowed you to 
> take the first photo? It’s very nice.

Thanks, we did get a partial here.

> 
> About the rattlesnake and lizard: I hope the snake was behind glass! If so, 
> how did you shoot it with no glare at all?

Nope, it was on a trail, shot with the 18-270 at 270, I was a safe distance 
away.
> 
> The Coors can shot is just kind of sad.  So many people are slobs. We’ve done 
> a lot of hiking in the White Mountains in New Hampshire, and the amount of 
> trash we’ve sometimes hauled out has been remarkable.
> 
> The second tractor pic, and the shot of the cellist, are both excellent. The 
> cellist’s concentration really shows. I like the brass ensemble too.

Thanks a bunch.  I've been photographing Riley, the trombonist, since he was 
about 12.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/15220150449/
His father Clint
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/27212760885/
mentors, or leads, several dance bands up in the Bay area.



> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 3:45 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 02.07.24 um 07:09 schrieb Larry Colen:
>>> The start and the end of the album was taken with Pentax gear (if the 
>>> filename has LRC in it)
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720316112862
>> 
>> Nice work. Thanks for sharing.
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: Partially OT, 2nd quarter faves

[Rick Womer]

Larry, these are very nice. I have some questions:

Did you California types have a partial solar eclipse that allowed you to take 
the first photo? It’s very nice.

About the rattlesnake and lizard: I hope the snake was behind glass! If so, how 
did you shoot it with no glare at all?

The Coors can shot is just kind of sad.  So many people are slobs. We’ve done a 
lot of hiking in the White Mountains in New Hampshire, and the amount of trash 
we’ve sometimes hauled out has been remarkable.

The second tractor pic, and the shot of the cellist, are both excellent. The 
cellist’s concentration really shows. I like the brass ensemble too.

Cheers,

Rick

> On Jul 2, 2024, at 3:45 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 02.07.24 um 07:09 schrieb Larry Colen:
>> The start and the end of the album was taken with Pentax gear (if the 
>> filename has LRC in it)
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720316112862
> 
> Nice work. Thanks for sharing.
> 
> Ralf
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Re: Partially OT, 2nd quarter faves

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 02.07.24 um 07:09 schrieb Larry Colen:

The start and the end of the album was taken with Pentax gear (if the filename 
has LRC in it)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720316112862


Nice work. Thanks for sharing.

Ralf

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Partially OT, 2nd quarter faves

[Larry Colen]

The start and the end of the album was taken with Pentax gear (if the filename 
has LRC in it)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720316112862

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Re: Status Update K-3 repairs and OT photos

[Stan Halpin]

In your collection of “old dead tractors”, this shot : 20240527-P5270049 of a 
Farmall … In the 1950-51 era, my dairy farmer grandfather bought his first 
(used) tractor, transitioning from work horses and eventually freeing up room 
in his barn for an additional three milking stations. The tractor was my first 
experience driving a motorized vehicle. He would never have allowed his tractor 
to get to the stage of disrepair as the one in your photo!  Thanks for a trip 
down memory lane!

Stan

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> On May 31, 2024, at 2:18 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I decided that since the OM-5 works OK for carrying on my bike, I was better 
> off getting the K-3III repaired while I'm in a photographic lull, lest I find 
> something else critical that is wrong when I absolutely need it, and then 
> find out that it'll take weeks or months to get it repaired. So, I sent it to 
> Precision, their estimate is now up to $683, and it turns out that the parts 
> are on back order for a week or two.  So, yeah.
> 
> I've had a few chances to go on bike rides and am becoming more familiar with 
> the OM-5.  It really does make me appreciate the Pentax UI.  A few years back 
> I commented that when processing photos, comparing my APS Pentax with a 
> friend's full frame Nikon, I could get similar quality with the Pentax, but 
> that the files "felt more brittle".  I'm running into the same thing with the 
> OM-5, only more so, it feels like I have very little extra dynamic range to 
> work with.
> 
> On my bike ride Monday, I found a place of Reche canyon where someone has 
> collected a bunch of old dead tractors and just has them sitting around, and 
> rather than a No Trespassing sign, his signs simply say that if you get hurt, 
> you can't blame him. I had just photographed this yellow tractor when a 
> bright pink "honey bucket" truck was driving past, so I had to grab another 
> shot:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53755809787/in/album-72177720317430356/
> 
> In other news, I needed to upgrade my local storage and a friend offered me a 
> QNAP 435A 4-bay NAS.  I bought it, and some refurb/returned 16T drives off 
> Amazon. With RAID 5 it gives me almost 43 TB, which is nice, about twice my 
> current photo library.  I'm trying to point my Lightroom Library at it, and I 
> dunno if it is the QNAP, my trashcan mac, or whether using a NAS over a 1G 
> net but while things seem to work, they aren't, as yet, working well.
> 
> 
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Re: Status Update K-3 repairs and OT photos

[lrc]

Thanks Rick and Ralf 

On May 31, 2024 10:12:29 AM PDT, Rick Womer  wrote:
>Nice pic!  The colors and composition are nice, and I really like the contrast 
>between the motion-blurred truck and the permanently-stationary tractor.
>
>Rick
>
>> On May 31, 2024, at 3:47 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 31.05.24 um 08:17 schrieb Larry Colen:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53755809787/in/album-72177720317430356/
>> 
>> Interesting and well done.
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: Status Update K-3 repairs and OT photos

[Rick Womer]

Nice pic!  The colors and composition are nice, and I really like the contrast 
between the motion-blurred truck and the permanently-stationary tractor.

Rick

> On May 31, 2024, at 3:47 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 31.05.24 um 08:17 schrieb Larry Colen:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53755809787/in/album-72177720317430356/
> 
> Interesting and well done.
> 
> Ralf
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Re: Status Update K-3 repairs and OT photos

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 31.05.24 um 08:17 schrieb Larry Colen:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53755809787/in/album-72177720317430356/


Interesting and well done.

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Status Update K-3 repairs and OT photos

[Larry Colen]

I decided that since the OM-5 works OK for carrying on my bike, I was better 
off getting the K-3III repaired while I'm in a photographic lull, lest I find 
something else critical that is wrong when I absolutely need it, and then find 
out that it'll take weeks or months to get it repaired. So, I sent it to 
Precision, their estimate is now up to $683, and it turns out that the parts 
are on back order for a week or two.  So, yeah.

I've had a few chances to go on bike rides and am becoming more familiar with 
the OM-5.  It really does make me appreciate the Pentax UI.  A few years back I 
commented that when processing photos, comparing my APS Pentax with a friend's 
full frame Nikon, I could get similar quality with the Pentax, but that the 
files "felt more brittle".  I'm running into the same thing with the OM-5, only 
more so, it feels like I have very little extra dynamic range to work with.

On my bike ride Monday, I found a place of Reche canyon where someone has 
collected a bunch of old dead tractors and just has them sitting around, and 
rather than a No Trespassing sign, his signs simply say that if you get hurt, 
you can't blame him. I had just photographed this yellow tractor when a bright 
pink "honey bucket" truck was driving past, so I had to grab another shot:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53755809787/in/album-72177720317430356/

In other news, I needed to upgrade my local storage and a friend offered me a 
QNAP 435A 4-bay NAS.  I bought it, and some refurb/returned 16T drives off 
Amazon. With RAID 5 it gives me almost 43 TB, which is nice, about twice my 
current photo library.  I'm trying to point my Lightroom Library at it, and I 
dunno if it is the QNAP, my trashcan mac, or whether using a NAS over a 1G net 
but while things seem to work, they aren't, as yet, working well. 


 
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OT:2012

[David J Brooks]

Ive deleted all my gmail forum emails from 2011 and working on 2012 to free
up space

Big ticket event that year was LR4 came out

We were so excited back then

:-)

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Re: OT Mac help

[Larry Colen]

> On May 18, 2024, at 8:44 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> other than dragging each folder over to a replacement ext is there a
> quicker/easier way to do it , i think replacing the one disk not found from
> the disk found is the weay to go

If they are all in the same parent folder, you should be able to copy that and 
move it, if not you should be able to select them all at once and copy them.

You could also try using Carbon Copy Cloner.

from the console you could do
mkdir /Volumes/newdrive/photofolder
cp -pr * /Volumes/newdrive/photofolder


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Re: OT Mac help

[David J Brooks]

other than dragging each folder over to a replacement ext is there a
quicker/easier way to do it , i think replacing the one disk not found from
the disk found is the weay to go

Dave


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Re: OT Mac help

[Bill]

They've probably been talking to your SDM lenses.

bill

On 5/16/2024 8:59 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

and if it helps, both ex drives shw power lights as on so they are getting
power

Dave



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Re: OT Mac help

[David J Brooks]

and if it helps, both ex drives shw power lights as on so they are getting
power

Dave

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 9:54 AM David J Brooks  wrote:

> Thanks Doug i clicked that item off now i'll see how that works
>
> David, only my one back up, older model, and my time machine, newer model
> show up. I have to disconnect the second back up from the computer, then
> plug it back in for the sidebar to show the drive, if the computer se=leeps
> only 7A shows up but not 7 so i have to unplug and replug. as mentioned it
> may be older drives or older formatting
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 6:22 AM David Mann  wrote:
>
>> This may have been mentioned already, but if you run Disk Utility (it's
>> in Applications / Utilities) do they appear in the sidebar? If greyed out
>> you can right-click on them and select "mount".  I do this with my external
>> SSD as I like to leave it plugged in but not mounted unless I'm actually
>> using it.  My Time Machine drives are always physically disconnected when
>> I'm not using them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
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Re: OT Mac help

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Doug i clicked that item off now i'll see how that works

David, only my one back up, older model, and my time machine, newer model
show up. I have to disconnect the second back up from the computer, then
plug it back in for the sidebar to show the drive, if the computer se=leeps
only 7A shows up but not 7 so i have to unplug and replug. as mentioned it
may be older drives or older formatting

Dave

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 6:22 AM David Mann  wrote:

> This may have been mentioned already, but if you run Disk Utility (it's in
> Applications / Utilities) do they appear in the sidebar? If greyed out you
> can right-click on them and select "mount".  I do this with my external SSD
> as I like to leave it plugged in but not mounted unless I'm actually using
> it.  My Time Machine drives are always physically disconnected when I'm not
> using them.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
>
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Re: OT Mac help

[David Mann]

This may have been mentioned already, but if you run Disk Utility (it's in 
Applications / Utilities) do they appear in the sidebar? If greyed out you can 
right-click on them and select "mount".  I do this with my external SSD as I 
like to leave it plugged in but not mounted unless I'm actually using it.  My 
Time Machine drives are always physically disconnected when I'm not using them.

Cheers,
Dave

> On May 16, 2024, at 2:11 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> I should add, its not always the case of the HD's not appearing but once in
> a whale, especially if it sleeps a long time
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:50 AM David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
>> Hi gang
>> 
>> So my new iMac 24" is working reasonably well, and am happy with it so
>> far, M3 chip.
>> 
>> However I have two older external HDs that are about 6 or 7 years old and
>> a new external HD that is my new Time machine. My back us are labeled 7 and
>> 7a, for the most part 7 does not show up at all anymore but 7a and time
>> machine do, but, when i let the machine g to sleep for a while and wake it
>> up, 7a does not appear and sometime Time machine does not appear in the
>> side bar.
>> 
>> I have to restart the machine.
>> 
>> OIm using a usb hub to usbC device and have tried directly connecting hd7a
>> and 7 but with little luck, after waking up 7a does not appear.
>> I also bought a new cable for the hD'ds.
>> 
>> Any thoughts, is my time machine drive showing up as more stable cause its
>> new??
>> 
>> Dave
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Re: OT Mac help

[Larry Colen]

> On May 15, 2024, at 2:48 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> You may wish to check your energy savings settings on your new iMac, to see 
> if you have the external drives set to sleep when not in use. It could be, 
> depending on the drive, that they go to sleep and vanish from the sidebar.
> 
> As always, if you change a setting, restarting the computer is the next step.

I had problems with my mac crashing and found out that there is a related 
problem with sleep mode on some macs.   I don't remember details as to year of 
mac or OS level, other than it applied to mine.

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Re: OT Mac help

[Doug Brewer]

You may wish to check your energy savings settings on your new iMac, to 
see if you have the external drives set to sleep when not in use. It 
could be, depending on the drive, that they go to sleep and vanish from 
the sidebar.


As always, if you change a setting, restarting the computer is the next 
step.


On 5/15/24 9:50 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Hi gang

So my new iMac 24" is working reasonably well, and am happy with it so far,
M3 chip.

However I have two older external HDs that are about 6 or 7 years old and a
new external HD that is my new Time machine. My back us are labeled 7 and
7a, for the most part 7 does not show up at all anymore but 7a and time
machine do, but, when i let the machine g to sleep for a while and wake it
up, 7a does not appear and sometime Time machine does not appear in the
side bar.

I have to restart the machine.

OIm using a usb hub to usbC device and have tried directly connecting hd7a
and 7 but with little luck, after waking up 7a does not appear.
I also bought a new cable for the hD'ds.

Any thoughts, is my time machine drive showing up as more stable cause its
new??

Dave


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Re: OT Mac help

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Am 15.05.24 um 22:33 schrieb mike wilson:

There's an aphorism about letting sleeping animals lie but I'm not sure it 
would be useful in this case.  Maybe the one about teaching an old animal new 
tricks would be more apt?


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Re: OT Mac help

[mike wilson]

There's an aphorism about letting sleeping animals lie but I'm not sure it 
would be useful in this case.  Maybe the one about teaching an old animal new 
tricks would be more apt?

> On 15/05/2024 15:11 BST David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
>  
> I should add, its not always the case of the HD's not appearing but once in
> a whale, especially if it sleeps a long time
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:50 AM David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> > Hi gang
> >
> > So my new iMac 24" is working reasonably well, and am happy with it so
> > far, M3 chip.
> >
> > However I have two older external HDs that are about 6 or 7 years old and
> > a new external HD that is my new Time machine. My back us are labeled 7 and
> > 7a, for the most part 7 does not show up at all anymore but 7a and time
> > machine do, but, when i let the machine g to sleep for a while and wake it
> > up, 7a does not appear and sometime Time machine does not appear in the
> > side bar.
> >
> > I have to restart the machine.
> >
> > OIm using a usb hub to usbC device and have tried directly connecting hd7a
> > and 7 but with little luck, after waking up 7a does not appear.
> > I also bought a new cable for the hD'ds.
> >
> > Any thoughts, is my time machine drive showing up as more stable cause its
> > new??
> >
> > Dave
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Re: OT Mac help

[paul stenquist]

Hi Dave,

You might have a format problem with the older drives. If there’s enough free 
space on one to hold all the files, you might want to move them over and 
reformat the empty drive. Then, repeat with the other drive. Or simply by a 
hard rive of 2T or more and move the files to that drive, then reformat the 
empty drives. 

Paul

> On May 15, 2024, at 10:11 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> I should add, its not always the case of the HD's not appearing but once in
> a whale, especially if it sleeps a long time
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:50 AM David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
>> Hi gang
>> 
>> So my new iMac 24" is working reasonably well, and am happy with it so
>> far, M3 chip.
>> 
>> However I have two older external HDs that are about 6 or 7 years old and
>> a new external HD that is my new Time machine. My back us are labeled 7 and
>> 7a, for the most part 7 does not show up at all anymore but 7a and time
>> machine do, but, when i let the machine g to sleep for a while and wake it
>> up, 7a does not appear and sometime Time machine does not appear in the
>> side bar.
>> 
>> I have to restart the machine.
>> 
>> OIm using a usb hub to usbC device and have tried directly connecting hd7a
>> and 7 but with little luck, after waking up 7a does not appear.
>> I also bought a new cable for the hD'ds.
>> 
>> Any thoughts, is my time machine drive showing up as more stable cause its
>> new??
>> 
>> Dave
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Re: OT Mac help

[David J Brooks]

I should add, its not always the case of the HD's not appearing but once in
a whale, especially if it sleeps a long time

Dave

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:50 AM David J Brooks  wrote:

> Hi gang
>
> So my new iMac 24" is working reasonably well, and am happy with it so
> far, M3 chip.
>
> However I have two older external HDs that are about 6 or 7 years old and
> a new external HD that is my new Time machine. My back us are labeled 7 and
> 7a, for the most part 7 does not show up at all anymore but 7a and time
> machine do, but, when i let the machine g to sleep for a while and wake it
> up, 7a does not appear and sometime Time machine does not appear in the
> side bar.
>
> I have to restart the machine.
>
> OIm using a usb hub to usbC device and have tried directly connecting hd7a
> and 7 but with little luck, after waking up 7a does not appear.
> I also bought a new cable for the hD'ds.
>
> Any thoughts, is my time machine drive showing up as more stable cause its
> new??
>
> Dave
>
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OT Mac help

[David J Brooks]

Hi gang

So my new iMac 24" is working reasonably well, and am happy with it so far,
M3 chip.

However I have two older external HDs that are about 6 or 7 years old and a
new external HD that is my new Time machine. My back us are labeled 7 and
7a, for the most part 7 does not show up at all anymore but 7a and time
machine do, but, when i let the machine g to sleep for a while and wake it
up, 7a does not appear and sometime Time machine does not appear in the
side bar.

I have to restart the machine.

OIm using a usb hub to usbC device and have tried directly connecting hd7a
and 7 but with little luck, after waking up 7a does not appear.
I also bought a new cable for the hD'ds.

Any thoughts, is my time machine drive showing up as more stable cause its
new??

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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

[Larry Colen]

Another weird thing about the camera I noticed on my hike is that if you're 
shooting in "non-silent" mode, it doesn't just make the shutter sound with a 
speaker, there's some haptic bump to the camera.  I guess if what you care 
about is whether it feels like a film camera that's nice, if however you care 
about image sharpness, then something that bumps the camera around while you're 
taking photos can't be good.


> On May 13, 2024, at 3:57 PM, supera1000  wrote:
> 
> I'd be interested in your opinion if you use the hand-held hi res mode.

I wasn't planning on it, but I'll try to give it a try. If I really care enough 
about image quality on a shot to do that, I'll use my K-1.  Although in 
retrospect, it might actually make a stop or two difference in noise/dynamic 
range.

> I'm more than happy with my EM-5ii but the OM-5 has several features that 
> interest me. I'm just not sure if the benefits make sense financially.

I was debating which to get and the impression I got (which is why I got the 
OM-5), is that if you don't have either, it's worth while buying the OM-5, but 
it's not worth trading in for.  Unless of course you want an excuse to get a 
new camera.  :-)


> 
> Cheers 
> Brian 
> 
> 
> On 14 May 2024 4:43:48 am AEST, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> It seems that I'm not the only one, it may be that it works differently in 
>> video mode
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I did put another 500 frames on it yesterday on a hike in Malibu Creek Park. 
>>  I'm starting to get a bit more comfortable with it.  And it is a damn sight 
>> easier to carry than the k1. 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 12, 2024 1:30:24 PM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> Lar
>>> 
>>> I use an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark II as a video camera (only) but in 
>>> conjunction with a very bright Fotga external monitor. The IBIS is 
>>> excellent and one of the reason I got it. That and it was pretty cheap so 
>>> reasonably easy to replace if it goes wrong or gets damaged.
>>> 
>>> I use it on conjunction with manual lenses and I have the focus peaking set 
>>> on permanently. Maybe your still focus peaking can be enabled in the menus 
>>> on the OM5 somewhere? It’s essential for my eyes.
>>> 
>>> Cot
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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

[supera1000]

I'd be interested in your opinion if you use the hand-held hi res mode. I'm 
more than happy with my EM-5ii but the OM-5 has several features that interest 
me. I'm just not sure if the benefits make sense financially.

Cheers 
Brian 


On 14 May 2024 4:43:48 am AEST, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>It seems that I'm not the only one, it may be that it works differently in 
>video mode
>
>
>
>I did put another 500 frames on it yesterday on a hike in Malibu Creek Park.  
>I'm starting to get a bit more comfortable with it.  And it is a damn sight 
>easier to carry than the k1. 
>
>
>On May 12, 2024 1:30:24 PM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>Lar
>>
>>I use an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark II as a video camera (only) but in conjunction 
>>with a very bright Fotga external monitor. The IBIS is excellent and one of 
>>the reason I got it. That and it was pretty cheap so reasonably easy to 
>>replace if it goes wrong or gets damaged.
>>
>>I use it on conjunction with manual lenses and I have the focus peaking set 
>>on permanently. Maybe your still focus peaking can be enabled in the menus on 
>>the OM5 somewhere? It’s essential for my eyes.
>>
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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

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It seems that I'm not the only one, it may be that it works differently in 
video mode



I did put another 500 frames on it yesterday on a hike in Malibu Creek Park.  
I'm starting to get a bit more comfortable with it.  And it is a damn sight 
easier to carry than the k1. 


On May 12, 2024 1:30:24 PM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>Lar
>
>I use an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark II as a video camera (only) but in conjunction 
>with a very bright Fotga external monitor. The IBIS is excellent and one of 
>the reason I got it. That and it was pretty cheap so reasonably easy to 
>replace if it goes wrong or gets damaged.
>
>I use it on conjunction with manual lenses and I have the focus peaking set on 
>permanently. Maybe your still focus peaking can be enabled in the menus on the 
>OM5 somewhere? It’s essential for my eyes.
>
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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

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Lar

I use an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark II as a video camera (only) but in conjunction 
with a very bright Fotga external monitor. The IBIS is excellent and one of the 
reason I got it. That and it was pretty cheap so reasonably easy to replace if 
it goes wrong or gets damaged.

I use it on conjunction with manual lenses and I have the focus peaking set on 
permanently. Maybe your still focus peaking can be enabled in the menus on the 
OM5 somewhere? It’s essential for my eyes.

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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

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> On May 11, 2024, at 10:32 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 04:50:59PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
>> After the weight of my new (13 months) K3III in my handlebar bag caused my 
>> bike to fall over and but the Smart Function knob, I looked into OM-5s 
>> again.  The price had dropped below my pain point, and since thanks to 
>> online shopping there aren???t any convenient camera stores to look at them, 
>> I bought on on Amazon, and if I don???t like it I???ll feel no guilt over 
>> returning it.
>> 
>> My one word review:
>> Adequate
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> I was considering getting an OM-5 as a backup/lighter alternative;
> I still feel nervous going anywhere with only a single camera body,
> even though I'v never yet had a digital camera body fail on me
> (and, in 50 years, only had two mechanical failures; once when my
> MX motor drive bent a drive shaft in my MX, and once when my PZ-1p
> objected to being used in rain, and took some time off to dry out.
> I don't count my MZ-S objecting to having its lens mount knocked
> off when I slipped climbing down from a photo tower and banged it
> hard against an upright - that was entirely my own fault).
> 
> I suspect 'adequate' might still serve my purpose, although I will
> admit that I was verging towards the slightly newer OM-D E-M5 Mk III.

If you like the OM-1, then I suspect the OM-5 would be just fine for you.  I 
also suspect that a lot of things that take the shine off for me aren’t things 
that come up for you as often.  My shooting needs are generally very different 
from yours.  If you don’t do a lot of bracketing of raw files, then my 
complaints there are totally irrelevant, and even so may not be something that 
bothers you.  

> 
> I'll be interested to see how you feel about it after a week or two.

This afternoon/evening we bopped by the Getty to play with cameras.  As things 
got darker I ended up needing to lean on the ISO a bit harder, it’ll be 
interesting to see how the images turn out.  On a quick look on my laptop, they 
seem to be usable at 6400.  


I was shooting with the 25/0.95 I bought from Boris and focus peaking went away 
in Manual Focus mode.  I put one of the autofocus lenses on, and focus peaking 
worked fine.  So, for some reason, manual focus assist does not work on manual 
focus only lenses.  

As we were leaving, I saw someone else waiting for the tram with a small retro 
looking camera, thinking that it might be another Oly I took a closer look, it 
was a Pentax MX!  I did tell him about PDML, he found the camera in his dad’s 
attic and is interested in learning more about photography in general and the 
camera in particular.


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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

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On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 04:50:59PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> After the weight of my new (13 months) K3III in my handlebar bag caused my 
> bike to fall over and but the Smart Function knob, I looked into OM-5s again. 
>  The price had dropped below my pain point, and since thanks to online 
> shopping there aren???t any convenient camera stores to look at them, I 
> bought on on Amazon, and if I don???t like it I???ll feel no guilt over 
> returning it.
> 
> My one word review:
> Adequate

Hmm.

I was considering getting an OM-5 as a backup/lighter alternative;
I still feel nervous going anywhere with only a single camera body,
even though I'v never yet had a digital camera body fail on me
(and, in 50 years, only had two mechanical failures; once when my
MX motor drive bent a drive shaft in my MX, and once when my PZ-1p
objected to being used in rain, and took some time off to dry out.
I don't count my MZ-S objecting to having its lens mount knocked
off when I slipped climbing down from a photo tower and banged it
hard against an upright - that was entirely my own fault).

I suspect 'adequate' might still serve my purpose, although I will
admit that I was verging towards the slightly newer OM-D E-M5 Mk III.

I'll be interested to see how you feel about it after a week or two.
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OT. OM-5 first impressions

[Larry Colen]

After the weight of my new (13 months) K3III in my handlebar bag caused my bike 
to fall over and but the Smart Function knob, I looked into OM-5s again.  The 
price had dropped below my pain point, and since thanks to online shopping 
there aren’t any convenient camera stores to look at them, I bought on on 
Amazon, and if I don’t like it I’ll feel no guilt over returning it.

My one word review:
Adequate

My basic review of the Lumix GH3 was that I loved the size, was unimpressed by 
the sensor/image quality and hated the UI.

The OM-5 is the same size, seems to have a substantially better sensor, and the 
UI is better but really makes me appreciate my Pentax cameras.  I would not 
want one as my primary camera, but for something light and convenient to carry, 
if not use, it’ll work.

One example of something that I do on my pentax bodies that I can’t quite do on 
the OM 5 is my nominal shooting modes are two stop bracketing, either nominal 
and -2, or three stops shot in order of -2, nominal and +2.  First of all, with 
the OM, I get at most one stop per frame, it also always shoots nominal first.  
Another difference is that with the Pentax, one press of the shutter shoots all 
of the bracket frames at once.

In daylight, the EVF, frankly, looks like shit.  It is little better than 
giving me the shape of the objects in the frame.  I recognize that there are 
advantages of EVF, particularly in low light, for manual focusing, focus 
peaking is nice to have, and other info, but for the experience of photography, 
not ready for prime, or even zoom, time.

Also the camera’s biggest strength is also a weakness, the small size makes it 
awkward to shoot with, even with my tiny hands.  

Battery life seems mediocre, I’m used to running on Pentax batteries for hours, 
and this seems to be running low fairly quickly, but batteries are light and 
can be bought cheaply.


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Re: OT: Richard Sandler

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Am 26.03.24 um 22:14 schrieb John Sessoms:
This URL might work. It's "archive.today", which people can take 
"snapshots" of articles that might be pay-walled somewhere.



The Guardian doesn't have a paywall. None at all.

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Re: OT: Richard Sandler

[Mark Roberts]

ann sanfedele wrote:

>the guardian doesnt let me in

They've obviously heard about you. Probably from Cotty...
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[John Sessoms]

This URL might work. It's "archive.today", which people can take 
"snapshots" of articles that might be pay-walled somewhere.


https://archive.is/E6MS3

On 3/22/2024 5:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
the guardian doesnt let me in but I just put his name in google with 
image search and got tons of stuff..  we were shooting the city at the 
same time - the 60's through the 80's .. I've only shown others a very 
few photos that remotely resembled these cringe-worthy records of how it 
was , in the late 60's and early 70's in NY .. most of them are mean 
spirited showing everyone and everything in the worst possible light.. 
(figuratively).  They make me sad.


ann

On 3/22/2024 4:18 AM, mike wilson wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/feb/27/between-the-streets-shades-of-new-york-in-pictures-richard-sandler-the-eyes-of-the-city
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Re: OT: Richard Sandler

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On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 05:49:38PM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote:
> the guardian doesnt let me in but I just put his name in google with image
> search and got tons of stuff..?? we were shooting the city at the same time
> - the 60's through the 80's .. I've only shown others a very few photos that
> remotely resembled these cringe-worthy records of how it was , in the late
> 60's and early 70's in NY .. most of them are mean spirited showing everyone
> and everything in the worst possible light.. (figuratively).?? They make me
> sad.
> 
> ann
> 
> On 3/22/2024 4:18 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/feb/27/between-the-streets-shades-of-new-york-in-pictures-richard-sandler-the-eyes-of-the-city

You can't get there directly from that link, but the following longer link will 
take you there (albeit with an ignorable nag pop-up)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=web=j=89978449=https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/feb/27/between-the-streets-shades-of-new-york-in-pictures-richard-sandler-the-eyes-of-the-city=2ahUKEwj2pKHS9YiFAxWUAzQIHbsTDp4QFnoECCAQAQ=AOvVaw1_Tww7kF6jUvybWtZoIqLY


It's nice living near San Francisco!  Some months ago I visited the de Young 
museum
when they had an exhibition of Ansel Adams photographs, and now (until July 
21st)
they're showing photographs from Irving Penn, including a special section 
featuring
images from San Francisco's "Summer of Love".
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Re: OT: Richard Sandler

[ann sanfedele]

the guardian doesnt let me in but I just put his name in google with 
image search and got tons of stuff..  we were shooting the city at the 
same time - the 60's through the 80's .. I've only shown others a very 
few photos that remotely resembled these cringe-worthy records of how it 
was , in the late 60's and early 70's in NY .. most of them are mean 
spirited showing everyone and everything in the worst possible light.. 
(figuratively).  They make me sad.


ann

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OT: Richard Sandler

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Re: OT - Video editing and Post Production

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Thanks Jan :-)

Cotty

> On 19 Feb 2024, at 13:08, li...@dfsee.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUG0ZqttMNw 
>>  
>> > >
> 
> 
> Nice little tutorial!
> 
> 
> I knew most of it, but still learned some new tricks or insights
> 
> I may want to step up from my more amateurisch ‘MOVAVI’ NLE to something like 
> yours :-)
> 
> 
> Great work!

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Re: OT - Video editing and Post Production

[lists]

Hey Cotty,


> On 18 Feb 2024, at 23:43, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pentaxers
> 
> I know some of you shoot video now and then, perhaps even do a little editing.
> 
> I’ve put together this *little* (ahem) film about the post-production process 
> for newbies that some might find interesting.
> 
> It’s in chapters for interrupted viewing.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUG0ZqttMNw 
> 


Nice little tutorial!


I knew most of it, but still learned some new tricks or insights

I may want to step up from my more amateurisch ‘MOVAVI’ NLE to something like 
yours :-)


Great work!


Regards, JvW


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OT - Video editing and Post Production

[Steve Cottrell]

Hi Pentaxers

I know some of you shoot video now and then, perhaps even do a little editing.

I’ve put together this *little* (ahem) film about the post-production process 
for newbies that some might find interesting.

It’s in chapters for interrupted viewing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUG0ZqttMNw 


Cheers

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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

thanks Bill, so its not me lol

Yes i found the remove tool to be a bit better


Dave

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 7:17 PM Bill  wrote:

> Man, I must have had beginners luck with that. I went in and tried again
> with the method I used the first time and got about a dozen failures in
> a row.
>
> So, I tried using the brush tool to paint in the tripod head so that
> Photoshop had a blank slate to work with and that seemed to work better.
>
> Generative fill is something akin to playing the slots, you can get a
> lot of losers to have a winner.
>
> bill
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OT building an astro tracker

[Toine]

Something to keep me busy:
https://www.repiuk.nl/blog/3D-Things/#pid=20240210_124911.jpg
It has GoTo and tracking. Current stepping motors are very cheap models. If
it all works I plan to mount real steppers and the DA300 which should
produce razor sharp starfields.

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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[Bill]

Man, I must have had beginners luck with that. I went in and tried again 
with the method I used the first time and got about a dozen failures in 
a row.


So, I tried using the brush tool to paint in the tripod head so that 
Photoshop had a blank slate to work with and that seemed to work better.


Generative fill is something akin to playing the slots, you can get a 
lot of losers to have a winner.


bill

On 2/9/2024 8:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Thanks Bill I did that but all it gave me were different versions of the
tripod head, I ll try it with a loser grab, i did have some success with
the remove tool

Dave





  directly above and

follow the directions.

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[David J Brooks]

Thanks Bill I did that but all it gave me were different versions of the
tripod head, I ll try it with a loser grab, i did have some success with
the remove tool

Dave



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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

so, it looks like I may have been trying to do this with the wrong tools,
saw a video on the removal tool which worked on my example photo.

Thanks to Bill and Bon for their generous help

DAVE

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:29 PM David J Brooks  wrote:

> Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024
>
> All my attempts agave failed miserably
>
> Dave
>
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>
> >
>> >
>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg
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I opened the image in Photoshop, drew quite loosely around the tripod 
head with the lasso tool, then edit/generative fill and clicked fill 
with nothing in the dialogue box.


If you do too tight a selection Photoshop will screw it up, it needs 
surrounding detail to create the fill so you need to give it plenty of 
elbow room. The selection I gave it was about the same size as the globe.


My understanding is that generative fill in it's present form creates 
everything at a maximum resolution of 1024x1024. The people who know 
more than me seem to be using fixed size boxes at that size and then 
doing multiple passes with generative fill with higher resolution images.


One of the things you might have received with your subscription is 
access to Photoshop Beta which is the test bed for Photoshop, so new 
features appear there and as they are perfected they then trickle into 
Photoshop 24 as updates.


For example, the image I posted was done on Photoshop Beta version 25.0.0


bill


On 2/5/2024 11:29 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024

All my attempts agave failed miserably

Dave

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On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:12 PM Bill  wrote:


https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd

It took about 10 seconds.

bill

On 2/5/2024 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures



http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:07 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:


In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

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[David J Brooks]

Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024

All my attempts agave failed miserably

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On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:12 PM Bill  wrote:

> https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd
>
> It took about 10 seconds.
>
> bill
>
> On 2/5/2024 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
> > mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures
> >
> >
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:07 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:
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https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd

It took about 10 seconds.

bill

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this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

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[David J Brooks]

this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

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> In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.
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In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

> On 5 Feb 2024, at 15:49, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Rather than using content aware fill, try using generative fill.
> 
> Original image: https://flic.kr/p/2oEdfzE
> 
> Generative fill image: https://flic.kr/p/2oE8b78
> 
> bill
> 
> 
>> On 2/4/2024 11:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
>> imac M3.
>> I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
>> I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
>> flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
>> the ball in my finger.
>> I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
>> but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,
>> 
>> I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
>> locate the buttons or links needed todo so.
>> 
>> Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,
>> 
>> Dave .
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Rather than using content aware fill, try using generative fill.

Original image: https://flic.kr/p/2oEdfzE

Generative fill image: https://flic.kr/p/2oE8b78

bill


On 2/4/2024 11:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Hi all

Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
imac M3.
I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
the ball in my finger.
I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,

I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
locate the buttons or links needed todo so.

Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,

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OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

Hi all

Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
imac M3.
I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
the ball in my finger.
I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,

I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
locate the buttons or links needed todo so.

Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,

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Re: OT Not quite astro stuff

[Marco Alpert]

What Henk said. Thanks for that!

m

> On Jan 9, 2024, at 3:47 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Fascinating video!
> 
> Op 2024-01-09 om 06:43 schreef mike wilson:
>> I'm wondering why the EV/screen failed...
>>  https://youtu.be/SxkA82wORtw?si=QqvpvOW8eOgOi9XX
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Fascinating video!

Op 2024-01-09 om 06:43 schreef mike wilson:

I'm wondering why the EV/screen failed...
  
https://youtu.be/SxkA82wORtw?si=QqvpvOW8eOgOi9XX
  
  
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I'm wondering why the EV/screen failed...
 
https://youtu.be/SxkA82wORtw?si=QqvpvOW8eOgOi9XX
 
 
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Re: Way OT Astro stuff

[Alan C]

Very interesting, Marco & excellent images. Looks like the JWT has some 
competition!


Alan C

On 08-Jan-24 10:20 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Although this has absolutely nothing to do with Pentax, since Larry brought up 
astro-imaging, I can’t resist showing the initial results of something that has 
really reenergized my passion for astronomy. Although I’ve owned a couple of 
really nice telescopes since the early 90s (which were great for visual 
observation when I lived on top of a not-too-light-polluted hill and could just 
roll the scopes out to the driveway to observe), since we moved to the 
Sacramento area, the combination of light pollution (around Bortle 7 for anyone 
who knows what that means), and the increasing difficulty of lugging them out 
to set up had pretty much ended observation for me (and I was never 
particularly interested in the intricacies of astrophotography).

Then, a few months ago, I acquired a small, inexpensive, “robotic” scope for 
what is called EAA (electronically assisted astronomy) that promises the 
ability to visually observe in light-polluted areas (albeit on the screen of a 
phone or tablet) as well as offer much simplified photography. Here are a few 
of my first results:

M33 Galaxy in Triangulum:https://flic.kr/p/2pgYEEb

NGC 7635 Bubble Nebula in Cassiopeia:https://flic.kr/p/2prm5Qg

NGC 1499 California Nebula in Perseus:https://flic.kr/p/2prkrFu

This little gizmo has only a 50mm (~2 in) objective (which is tiny for deep sky 
objects) and has the ability, controlled by a phone or tablet, to automatically 
find and slew to whatever object you tell it to and begin taking a series of 10 
second exposures. Let it keep doing this as long as you want and watch the 
object appear on the phone or tablet with more and more detail as the 
successive exposures are stacked and processed. I did do some post-processing 
on these, but as I have exactly zero experience with astrophotography, it’s 
pretty primitive compared to what’s possible.
   
So, a telescope with a built-in computer-controlled alt/az mount, a digital astro-camera, auto-focuser, dew heater, multiple filters, small carbon-fiber tripod and a fairly nice case, for about $500.


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Re: Way OT Astro stuff

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 8, 2024, at 12:20 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> Although this has absolutely nothing to do with Pentax, since Larry brought 
> up astro-imaging, I can’t resist showing the initial results of something 
> that has really reenergized my passion for astronomy. Although I’ve owned a 
> couple of really nice telescopes since the early 90s (which were great for 
> visual observation when I lived on top of a not-too-light-polluted hill and 
> could just roll the scopes out to the driveway to observe), since we moved to 
> the Sacramento area, the combination of light pollution (around Bortle 7 for 
> anyone who knows what that means), and the increasing difficulty of lugging 
> them out to set up had pretty much ended observation for me (and I was never 
> particularly interested in the intricacies of astrophotography). 
> 
> Then, a few months ago, I acquired a small, inexpensive, “robotic” scope for 
> what is called EAA (electronically assisted astronomy) that promises the 
> ability to visually observe in light-polluted areas (albeit on the screen of 
> a phone or tablet) as well as offer much simplified photography. Here are a 
> few of my first results:
> 
> M33 Galaxy in Triangulum: https://flic.kr/p/2pgYEEb
> 
> NGC 7635 Bubble Nebula in Cassiopeia: https://flic.kr/p/2prm5Qg
> 
> NGC 1499 California Nebula in Perseus: https://flic.kr/p/2prkrFu

Very nice job!


> 
> This little gizmo has only a 50mm (~2 in) objective (which is tiny for deep 
> sky objects) and has the ability, controlled by a phone or tablet, to 
> automatically find and slew to whatever object you tell it to and begin 
> taking a series of 10 second exposures. Let it keep doing this as long as you 
> want and watch the object appear on the phone or tablet with more and more 
> detail as the successive exposures are stacked and processed. I did do some 
> post-processing on these, but as I have exactly zero experience with 
> astrophotography, it’s pretty primitive compared to what’s possible. 
> 
> So, a telescope with a built-in computer-controlled alt/az mount, a digital 
> astro-camera, auto-focuser, dew heater, multiple filters, small carbon-fiber 
> tripod and a fairly nice case, for about $500. 

That's less than I spent on just the motor, never mind all the associated 
gizmos. 
You're cheating!


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Re: Way OT Astro stuff

[Steve Cottrell]

Fabulous!!!

Cotty

> On 8 Jan 2024, at 20:20, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> M33 Galaxy in Triangulum: https://flic.kr/p/2pgYEEb 
> 
> 
> NGC 7635 Bubble Nebula in Cassiopeia: https://flic.kr/p/2prm5Qg 
> 
> 
> NGC 1499 California Nebula in Perseus: https://flic.kr/p/2prkrFu 
> 

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[Marco Alpert]

Although this has absolutely nothing to do with Pentax, since Larry brought up 
astro-imaging, I can’t resist showing the initial results of something that has 
really reenergized my passion for astronomy. Although I’ve owned a couple of 
really nice telescopes since the early 90s (which were great for visual 
observation when I lived on top of a not-too-light-polluted hill and could just 
roll the scopes out to the driveway to observe), since we moved to the 
Sacramento area, the combination of light pollution (around Bortle 7 for anyone 
who knows what that means), and the increasing difficulty of lugging them out 
to set up had pretty much ended observation for me (and I was never 
particularly interested in the intricacies of astrophotography). 

Then, a few months ago, I acquired a small, inexpensive, “robotic” scope for 
what is called EAA (electronically assisted astronomy) that promises the 
ability to visually observe in light-polluted areas (albeit on the screen of a 
phone or tablet) as well as offer much simplified photography. Here are a few 
of my first results:

M33 Galaxy in Triangulum: https://flic.kr/p/2pgYEEb

NGC 7635 Bubble Nebula in Cassiopeia: https://flic.kr/p/2prm5Qg

NGC 1499 California Nebula in Perseus: https://flic.kr/p/2prkrFu

This little gizmo has only a 50mm (~2 in) objective (which is tiny for deep sky 
objects) and has the ability, controlled by a phone or tablet, to automatically 
find and slew to whatever object you tell it to and begin taking a series of 10 
second exposures. Let it keep doing this as long as you want and watch the 
object appear on the phone or tablet with more and more detail as the 
successive exposures are stacked and processed. I did do some post-processing 
on these, but as I have exactly zero experience with astrophotography, it’s 
pretty primitive compared to what’s possible. 
  
So, a telescope with a built-in computer-controlled alt/az mount, a digital 
astro-camera, auto-focuser, dew heater, multiple filters, small carbon-fiber 
tripod and a fairly nice case, for about $500. 

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Re: OT: Mac and google maps ??

[David J Brooks]

I’ll try tha
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 5:12 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Ios and Android devices using Google Maps are incapable of mimicking the
> desktop interface, so no you can’t do that. The only option you have is to
> select a route and amend it by clicking on the three little dots next to
> ‘your location’ and ‘add stop’ that will allow you to select a new
> ‘waypoint’ and so allowing you to modify the route. It may take some time
> :-)
>
> Cotty
>
>
>
> > On 15 Dec 2023, at 00:08, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> > I’ve asked this on some facebook sites but not getting anywhere so I
> > thought I’d ask people that may know
> > On my Mac desktop if I plot out a route on google maps if I don’t like
> it I
> > can grab points on the rout and move them to were I want, but on my 12
> mini
> > and 9th generation iPad it won’t let me do it all I can do is move the
> map
> > around
> >
> > Any ideas??
>
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Re: OT: Mac and google maps ??

[Steve Cottrell]

Ios and Android devices using Google Maps are incapable of mimicking the 
desktop interface, so no you can’t do that. The only option you have is to 
select a route and amend it by clicking on the three little dots next to ‘your 
location’ and ‘add stop’ that will allow you to select a new ‘waypoint’ and so 
allowing you to modify the route. It may take some time :-)

Cotty



> On 15 Dec 2023, at 00:08, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> I’ve asked this on some facebook sites but not getting anywhere so I
> thought I’d ask people that may know
> On my Mac desktop if I plot out a route on google maps if I don’t like it I
> can grab points on the rout and move them to were I want, but on my 12 mini
> and 9th generation iPad it won’t let me do it all I can do is move the map
> around
> 
> Any ideas??

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Re: OT maps help

[John Sessoms]

Can you export a route you created on your desktop to your IOS device?

On 12/15/2023 2:42 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Thanks Bob

I can drag them on the desk top just not on the iOS units

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:12 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:


You can add stops either by press/holding a waypoint or by using Add Stop
on the … menu.

You can rearrange the stops by dragging them around in the list.

As far as I know you can’t drag them around on the map.


On 14 Dec 2023, at 04:53, Stan Halpin 

wrote:


I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t

see a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route,
Maps quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for
planning, I seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options
offered up.


Sent from my iPad


On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks 

wrote:


I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any

advice

for me so here his my questions,

On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone

and

iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
generation iPhone 12 mini

Any ideas

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Re: OT maps help

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Bob

I can drag them on the desk top just not on the iOS units

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:12 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:

> You can add stops either by press/holding a waypoint or by using Add Stop
> on the … menu.
>
> You can rearrange the stops by dragging them around in the list.
>
> As far as I know you can’t drag them around on the map.
>
> > On 14 Dec 2023, at 04:53, Stan Halpin 
> wrote:
> >
> > I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t
> see a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route,
> Maps quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for
> planning, I seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options
> offered up.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any
> advice
> >> for me so here his my questions,
> >>
> >> On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
> >> points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone
> and
> >> iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
> >> generation iPhone 12 mini
> >>
> >> Any ideas
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario.
> >> www.caughtinmotion.com
> >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> >> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: OT maps help

[David J Brooks]

Paul no I have not but I’ll try it

Stan seems to be the way then

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:02 AM Stan Halpin 
wrote:

> I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t
> see a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route,
> Maps quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for
> planning, I seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options
> offered up.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> > I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any
> advice
> > for me so here his my questions,
> >
> > On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
> > points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone
> and
> > iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
> > generation iPhone 12 mini
> >
> > Any ideas
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario.
> > www.caughtinmotion.com
> > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> > York Region, Ontario, Canada
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OT: Mac and google maps ??

[David J Brooks]

I’ve asked this on some facebook sites but not getting anywhere so I
thought I’d ask people that may know
On my Mac desktop if I plot out a route on google maps if I don’t like it I
can grab points on the rout and move them to were I want, but on my 12 mini
and 9th generation iPad it won’t let me do it all I can do is move the map
around

Any ideas??

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Re: OT maps help

[Paul Sorenson]

If you're logged in to your google account when using google maps on 
your computer can you create the route you want by dragging points and 
then saving that route and pulling the saved route up on your iPad or 
iPhone? I haven't tried this...just wondering...


-p

On 12/13/2023 5:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any advice
for me so here his my questions,

On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone and
iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
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Any ideas

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Re: OT maps help

[Bob W PDML]

You can add stops either by press/holding a waypoint or by using Add Stop on 
the … menu. 

You can rearrange the stops by dragging them around in the list. 

As far as I know you can’t drag them around on the map.

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 04:53, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t see 
> a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route, Maps 
> quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for planning, I 
> seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options offered up.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> 
>> I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any advice
>> for me so here his my questions,
>> 
>> On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
>> points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone and
>> iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
>> generation iPhone 12 mini
>> 
>> Any ideas
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
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>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: OT maps help

[Stan Halpin]

I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t see a 
way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route, Maps quickly 
adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for planning, I seem to 
be stuck just choosing from the three route options offered up.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any advice
> for me so here his my questions,
> 
> On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
> points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone and
> iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
> generation iPhone 12 mini
> 
> Any ideas
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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OT maps help

[David J Brooks]

I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any advice
for me so here his my questions,

On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone and
iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
generation iPhone 12 mini

Any ideas

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Re: OT: Lightroom naming help

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

yes, Lightroom Classic. Photo bundle @ US$9.95/mo.. It has everything you need. 
I download and install only LrC because it"s all I need, but the bundle gives 
access to PS, Lr, and other apps should you need or want to use them.

G

> On Dec 8, 2023, at 9:19 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all, the version Matt was using showed you can switch from cloud to
> desktop HD that’s the one that intrigues me but was unclear of the proper
> name
> 
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Re: OT: Lightroom naming help

[David J Brooks]

Thanks all, the version Matt was using showed you can switch from cloud to
desktop HD that’s the one that intrigues me but was unclear of the proper
name

Dave

On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 12:11 PM Stanley Halpin 
wrote:

> I won’t claim to be an expert on this. I use LR Classic, currently at ver
> 13.0.1. My current images and catalog are on my computers HD, and backed up
> on external HDs. I keep older images on external HDs.
>
> LR (not LR Classic) is web based. You can put images onto your computer
> HD, but the working assumption is that they are stored in the Adobe cloud.
> The editing tools on LR are different and seem less useful IMHO than those
> in LR Classic. I think LR would be great for someone mostly using their
> phone as a camera.
>
> I sometimes use LR when traveling, and then transfer the images to my
> computer at home and import them into LR Classic.
> That is a complicated not very useful workflow, and so I have started
> either talking my computer with me when I travel, or I wait to
> review/edit/post any images untilI am back home. (My one computer is a 2021
> MacBook Pro; when at home it connects to a 27” monitor.)
>
>  My basic monthly subscription includes LR, LR Classic, Photoshop, some
> other Adobe stuff, and some online storage in the Adobe Cloud. I have no
> idea the pricing options, but back when I shifted from LR v.6, the annual
> cost for the bundle was about the same as I was paying each year to upgrade
> from 4 to 5 to 6…
>
> Stan
>
> > On Dec 8, 2023, at 10:19 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> > Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac
> delivery
> > date unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6
> but
> > confused with the new naming structure.
> > I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop
> > editing from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names,
> > Lightroom, Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
> > Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use
> the
> > cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days
> > I confuse easily, as some may be aware, so any help is appreciated
> > I have looked at Matt K’s short video but still confused on Nan’s and
> plans
> >
> > Dave
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Re: OT: Lightroom naming help

[Stanley Halpin]

I won’t claim to be an expert on this. I use LR Classic, currently at ver 
13.0.1. My current images and catalog are on my computers HD, and backed up on 
external HDs. I keep older images on external HDs. 

LR (not LR Classic) is web based. You can put images onto your computer HD, but 
the working assumption is that they are stored in the Adobe cloud. The editing 
tools on LR are different and seem less useful IMHO than those in LR Classic. I 
think LR would be great for someone mostly using their phone as a camera.

I sometimes use LR when traveling, and then transfer the images to my computer 
at home and import them into LR Classic. 
That is a complicated not very useful workflow, and so I have started either 
talking my computer with me when I travel, or I wait to review/edit/post any 
images untilI am back home. (My one computer is a 2021 MacBook Pro; when at 
home it connects to a 27” monitor.)

 My basic monthly subscription includes LR, LR Classic, Photoshop, some other 
Adobe stuff, and some online storage in the Adobe Cloud. I have no idea the 
pricing options, but back when I shifted from LR v.6, the annual cost for the 
bundle was about the same as I was paying each year to upgrade from 4 to 5 to 6…

Stan

> On Dec 8, 2023, at 10:19 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac delivery
> date unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6 but
> confused with the new naming structure.
> I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop
> editing from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names,
> Lightroom, Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
> Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use the
> cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days
> I confuse easily, as some may be aware, so any help is appreciated
> I have looked at Matt K’s short video but still confused on Nan’s and plans
> 
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Re: OT: Lightroom naming help

[Toine]

Yes Lightroom Classic (LrC) is what you want. Lightroom (Lr) needs a real
cloud subscription (1 Tb), It also works with Lightroom Mobile. And all 3
can work together in the cloud.
Lightroom Classic is the one, the rest is nice (and expensive)

Toine

On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 17:37, Henk Terhell  wrote:

> For desktop editing you should get a subscription for Lightroom Classic
> with Photoshop. This is the cheapest option for which get only 20 GB cloud
> storage.
> You will be pleased with all the new features in Lightroom Classic
> compared to Lightroom version 6.
> I wouldn't look any further unless you only want to work in the cloud.
>
> Henk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David J Brooks 
> Sent: vrijdag 8 december 2023 16:19
> To: Pentax Discuss 
> Subject: OT: Lightroom naming help
>
> Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac delivery
> date unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6 but
> confused with the new naming structure.
> I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop
> editing from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names,
> Lightroom, Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
> Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use
> the cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days I confuse easily, as
> some may be aware, so any help is appreciated I have looked at Matt K’s
> short video but still confused on Nan’s and plans
>
> Dave
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RE: OT: Lightroom naming help

[Henk Terhell]

For desktop editing you should get a subscription for Lightroom Classic with 
Photoshop. This is the cheapest option for which get only 20 GB cloud storage.
You will be pleased with all the new features in Lightroom Classic compared to 
Lightroom version 6.
I wouldn't look any further unless you only want to work in the cloud.

Henk

-Original Message-
From: David J Brooks  
Sent: vrijdag 8 december 2023 16:19
To: Pentax Discuss 
Subject: OT: Lightroom naming help

Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac delivery date 
unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6 but confused 
with the new naming structure.
I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop editing 
from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names, Lightroom, 
Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use the 
cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days I confuse easily, as some may 
be aware, so any help is appreciated I have looked at Matt K’s short video but 
still confused on Nan’s and plans

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OT: Lightroom naming help

[David J Brooks]

Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac delivery
date unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6 but
confused with the new naming structure.
I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop
editing from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names,
Lightroom, Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use the
cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days
I confuse easily, as some may be aware, so any help is appreciated
I have looked at Matt K’s short video but still confused on Nan’s and plans

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OT: black screen time

[David J Brooks]

So I now have the black screen of death on my mid 2010 iMac running OS
10.11.6. Multiple restart try’s the computer turns on but can’t see
anything. Call to local reseller/ repair shop suggests the graphic card
issue. I have had issues this year with it just randomly turning off.

They are looking for stock but I can muddle along with my iPad 9th
generation for email, fb, and bill paying for now, Operating system all
caught up on the iPad and phone, always happens when you finally get the
CC’s all paid off

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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[Ed Keeney]

All,

Thanks for the responses.  I think she's just going to use her flatbed scanner.

Thanks!
Ed

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 8:41 PM Ed Keeney  wrote:
>
> Long time lurker.
>
> My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
> scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
> Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).
>
> The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
> FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
> for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
> way or the other?
>
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OT: new phone comparo

[Larry Colen]

Last week I got Pixeleighted, a Pixel 8 Pro.  My Pixel 3XL still works OK, but 
they've stopped updating the software, some apps are starting to run a bit 
roughly, and I just don't have the time to deal with jail breaking it and 
running something like cyanogenmod.   One of my motivations for the upgrade was 
the improved camera, or rather cameras.  I will say right off the bat, that it 
is going to take some time to learn how to use it.  I tried to set it up, and 
it got in a mode where every time I took a picture it would take photos for 
several seconds or something.  On the other hand, it does have a mode where you 
can manually set shutter speed and ISO, possibly even manually focus it.  

I also managed to go for a bike ride today, my first one in several months. 
I've finally unpacked enough at the new place that I can take a few hours off 
for something like a bike ride.

When I stopped to take some photos with the u43 Lumix, GX9 I spontaneously 
decided to try some side by sides with the phone.  With the 14-150 at 14mm, it 
was a very similar angle of view to the phone at "1x", though you can tell the 
difference between them by the aspect ratio.

This album has photos made from the phone jpeg, dng and the Lumix raw files. 
Pretty much the only processing done was raw conversion, and autotoning of the 
Lumix raw files

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720312632275

Summary:
Once I learn the gear, I should be able to get adequate photos with either of 
them, but their main advantages are convenience, if I really care about image 
quality, I'll use one of my Pentax cameras.

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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[John Sessoms]

If it's all 4x6 prints, the low end Epson would probably be the best bet 
(lowest cost).


The software bundled with the scanner should also be good enough.

The main thing is scanning takes time.

On 11/10/2023 8:41 PM, Ed Keeney wrote:

Long time lurker.

My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).

The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
way or the other?



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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[Stan Halpin]

I have used ScanCafe for slides, no complaints.
But also I do have the Epson v 39 that has been mentioned, I use it mostly for 
documents. But I think it is ok for old family prints. Tomorrow I’ll scan and 
post an old family print which I’ll do at 100, 200, 300, 600, 1200, 2400, 3600… 
We’ll see.

Stan

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> On Nov 11, 2023, at 11:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I would recommend using a service instead of buying a scanner. If your 
> sister is like most people, the scanning is a one time task .. to do good 
> scanning take time and practice … a *lot* of practice and a *lot* of time … 
> and then, once done, the scanner is of limited value and you have to put more 
> effort into selling it. Cheap scanners do a relatively poor job, the scanning 
> services all use the best scanners. Etc. 
> 
> The scanning services are run by people who are pretty expert at the task and 
> they do it efficiently and well, at a modest cost per photo. Scanning the 
> family archive is a one-time task for most people … get the whole lot done, 
> pay whatever it costs, and you're done: enjoy the photos. 
> 
> I've had good luck with ScanCafe.com … I've arranged and managed the scanning 
> process with them for several of my old clients (when I was still working). 
> Their prices are reasonable, and they give you some options in the kind of 
> quality and costs, depending on your need/use of the photos. 
> 
> Good luck. 
> 
> Godfrey
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Ed Keeney  wrote:
>> 
>> Long time lurker.
>> 
>> My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
>> scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
>> Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).
>> 
>> The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
>> FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
>> for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
>> way or the other?
>> 
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>> Thanks!
>> Ed
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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

I have also had good results with ScanCafe.   They provided timely, 
quality service exactly as I requested on my orders.  Over time, I've 
had them process my complete holdings of slides and negatives plus a 
some prints I didn't 'have time to scan myself.


Otis Wright

On 11/11/2023 11:43, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I would recommend using a service instead of buying a scanner. If your sister 
is like most people, the scanning is a one time task .. to do good scanning 
take time and practice … a *lot* of practice and a *lot* of time … and then, 
once done, the scanner is of limited value and you have to put more effort into 
selling it. Cheap scanners do a relatively poor job, the scanning services all 
use the best scanners. Etc.

The scanning services are run by people who are pretty expert at the task and 
they do it efficiently and well, at a modest cost per photo. Scanning the 
family archive is a one-time task for most people … get the whole lot done, pay 
whatever it costs, and you're done: enjoy the photos.

I've had good luck with ScanCafe.com … I've arranged and managed the scanning 
process with them for several of my old clients (when I was still working). 
Their prices are reasonable, and they give you some options in the kind of 
quality and costs, depending on your need/use of the photos.

Good luck.

Godfrey


On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Ed Keeney  wrote:

Long time lurker.

My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).

The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
way or the other?

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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I would recommend using a service instead of buying a scanner. If your sister 
is like most people, the scanning is a one time task .. to do good scanning 
take time and practice … a *lot* of practice and a *lot* of time … and then, 
once done, the scanner is of limited value and you have to put more effort into 
selling it. Cheap scanners do a relatively poor job, the scanning services all 
use the best scanners. Etc. 

The scanning services are run by people who are pretty expert at the task and 
they do it efficiently and well, at a modest cost per photo. Scanning the 
family archive is a one-time task for most people … get the whole lot done, pay 
whatever it costs, and you're done: enjoy the photos. 

I've had good luck with ScanCafe.com … I've arranged and managed the scanning 
process with them for several of my old clients (when I was still working). 
Their prices are reasonable, and they give you some options in the kind of 
quality and costs, depending on your need/use of the photos. 

Good luck. 

Godfrey

> On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Ed Keeney  wrote:
> 
> Long time lurker.
> 
> My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
> scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
> Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).
> 
> The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
> FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
> for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
> way or the other?
> 
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OT: Print Scanner

[Ed Keeney]

Long time lurker.

My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).

The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
way or the other?

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Re: OT: System Renewal

[John Sessoms]

Cool! Congratulations.

On 10/30/2023 6:36 PM, Comcast wrote:

My 8 year old iMac 27 Retina K5 gave up the ghost. It had been getting flakey 
for awhile. When writing it would sometimes freeze and restart. I sometimes had 
to grabs snapshot of the screen if I didn’t have a recent save, and then type 
the text back in after a restart. Finally, it refused to start. The big loss 
was its 5k monitor which can’t be used separately.

I had wanted to upgrade to a silicon Mac that could run the latest photoshop AI 
tools, so it’s timely, I bought a Mac Mini M2 Pro with much more processing 
power than my old iMac. For a monitor I bought a 32-inch LG 4K IPS screen, I’ll 
keep my old 27-inch IPS Dell as a second screen.all considered a fairly 
economical solution.

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Re: OT: System Renewal

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 30.10.23 um 23:36 schrieb Comcast:

I bought a Mac Mini M2 Pro with much more processing power than my old iMac.


I've bought a Mac Studio M1 last year and I'm a very happy camper.

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OT: System Renewal

[Comcast]

My 8 year old iMac 27 Retina K5 gave up the ghost. It had been getting flakey 
for awhile. When writing it would sometimes freeze and restart. I sometimes had 
to grabs snapshot of the screen if I didn’t have a recent save, and then type 
the text back in after a restart. Finally, it refused to start. The big loss 
was its 5k monitor which can’t be used separately. 

I had wanted to upgrade to a silicon Mac that could run the latest photoshop AI 
tools, so it’s timely, I bought a Mac Mini M2 Pro with much more processing 
power than my old iMac. For a monitor I bought a 32-inch LG 4K IPS screen, I’ll 
keep my old 27-inch IPS Dell as a second screen.all considered a fairly 
economical solution.

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Re: OT: Focus stacked flower with no Rick at all.

[David J Brooks]

WOW

Dave

On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 3:54 PM Bill  wrote:

> OT as no Pentax equipment was used for this image.
>
> One of the features built into the X-T5 is focus stacking, a tool that I
> am finding valuable for macro work.
>
> This was shot with the Fuji 80/2.8 macro at f4. It is comprised of 201
> stacked images, which I admit is just silly.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2pbmsXG
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> Enjoy
>
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OT 3D fun

[Toine]

The advantage of using a hacksaw to modify camera gear has been discussed
before. I got myself a 3D printer and solved a few camera gear puzzles with
3d printed plastic parts:
https://www.repiuk.nl/blog/3D-Things/

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Re: OT: Focus stacked flower with no Rick at all.

[Bill]

Hi Henk, it was shot outside but in a very sheltered area. According to 
the time stamps on the files, it took just over 3 minutes to photograph 
the stack, so about one frame per second on average.
Automatic focus stack has very quickly become a must have feature for me 
for a new camera. When the K1 replacement comes along (hopefully before 
I've shuffled off) I'm really hoping they include it as a feature.

The Fuji lenses are superb, but the 80/2.8 stands out as exceptional.

thanks for looking and your kind comments are appreciated.

bill

On 10/25/2023 12:07 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Amazingly sharp and a nice composition.
I guess this is shot indoors or sheltered.
The trouble I have with focus stacking of wild flowers is that I get
ghosting effects from movement in the wind.

Henk

Op di 24 okt 2023 om 21:54 schreef Bill :


OT as no Pentax equipment was used for this image.

One of the features built into the X-T5 is focus stacking, a tool that I
am finding valuable for macro work.

This was shot with the Fuji 80/2.8 macro at f4. It is comprised of 201
stacked images, which I admit is just silly.

https://flic.kr/p/2pbmsXG

Enjoy

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Re: OT: Focus stacked flower with no Rick at all.

[Henk Terhell]

Amazingly sharp and a nice composition.
I guess this is shot indoors or sheltered.
The trouble I have with focus stacking of wild flowers is that I get
ghosting effects from movement in the wind.

Henk

Op di 24 okt 2023 om 21:54 schreef Bill :

> OT as no Pentax equipment was used for this image.
>
> One of the features built into the X-T5 is focus stacking, a tool that I
> am finding valuable for macro work.
>
> This was shot with the Fuji 80/2.8 macro at f4. It is comprised of 201
> stacked images, which I admit is just silly.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2pbmsXG
>
> Enjoy
>
> bill
>
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OT: Focus stacked flower with no Rick at all.

[Bill]

OT as no Pentax equipment was used for this image.

One of the features built into the X-T5 is focus stacking, a tool that I 
am finding valuable for macro work.


This was shot with the Fuji 80/2.8 macro at f4. It is comprised of 201 
stacked images, which I admit is just silly.


https://flic.kr/p/2pbmsXG

Enjoy

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Re: OT PESO: Rick in a creek.

[Rick Womer]

I’m right here, and wasn’t ever behind that rock, or in that creek.

Rick

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 05:00  wrote:

> It's Rick behind the rock?
>
> On October 8, 2023 7:13:13 PM PDT, Bill 
> wrote:
> >OT as it was shot with non Pentax gear.
> >
> >Fuji X-T5, 50-140 & 1.4 converter.
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Re: OT PESO: Rick in a creek.

[Steve Cottrell]

Shasta from 35,000 feet!

Nice image.

Cot

> On 9 Oct 2023, at 03:13, Bill  wrote:
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> OT as it was shot with non Pentax gear.
> 
> Fuji X-T5, 50-140 & 1.4 converter.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2p83n33 <https://flic.kr/p/2p83n33>

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Re: OT PESO: Rick in a creek.

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It's Rick behind the rock?

On October 8, 2023 7:13:13 PM PDT, Bill  wrote:
>OT as it was shot with non Pentax gear.
>
>Fuji X-T5, 50-140 & 1.4 converter.
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>https://flic.kr/p/2p83n33
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>enjoy
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OT PESO: Rick in a creek.

[Bill]

OT as it was shot with non Pentax gear.

Fuji X-T5, 50-140 & 1.4 converter.

https://flic.kr/p/2p83n33

enjoy

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Re: OT PESO Path to somewhere

[John Sessoms]

But it's a nice looking path.

On 9/29/2023 9:08 PM, Bill wrote:

OT because it's taken with Fuji equipment.

https://flic.kr/p/2p47wyP

Taken at the Kohan Reflection Garden, New Denver BC.

New Denver is a town in BC that had a Japanese/ Canadian internment camp 
built beside it during  WWII.
The garden was established in 1989 to honour those Canadian citizens 
whose freedoms were taken from them at that time.


Fuji X-T5, 80/2.8 macro, ISO 125, f/11, 1/20th sec.

Enjoy

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OT PESO Path to somewhere

[Bill]

OT because it's taken with Fuji equipment.

https://flic.kr/p/2p47wyP

Taken at the Kohan Reflection Garden, New Denver BC.

New Denver is a town in BC that had a Japanese/ Canadian internment camp 
built beside it during  WWII.
The garden was established in 1989 to honour those Canadian citizens 
whose freedoms were taken from them at that time.


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Enjoy

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Re: OT GESO

[Steve Cottrell]

Nice work as usual Brooksy.

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> On 23 Sep 2023, at 15:43, David J Brooks  wrote:
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> Our club recently did two walks in Uxbridge ontario sept 5 and sept 19 so i
> combined them into one gallery of 55 photos
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge4/album/index.html 
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> D7200 28-300 some LR 6.1 adjustments


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Re: OT GESO

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Rick and Alan. Rick hand held with A around 6.3 the Nikon 28-300 is
quite sharp

Dave

On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 2:42 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Great stuff as usual, Dave. Late summer blossoms & seeds with signs
> impending Autumn or the Fall as you call it over there. We are off to
> the Crystal Springs mountain resort next week so hopefully I can capture
> some of the wild spring flowers (veldblommetjies) & probably a bit of game.
>
> Alan C
>
> On 23-Sep-23 11:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> > Dave, these are excellent.  Your flower and foliage shots are extremely
> sharp, and the colors are great.
> >
> > Were you using a tripod? What aperture range were you using?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >> On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David J Brooks 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our club recently did two walks in Uxbridge ontario sept 5 and sept 19
> so i
> >> combined them into one gallery of 55 photos
> >>
> >> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge4/album/index.html
> >>
> >> D7200 28-300 some LR 6.1 adjustments
> >>
> >> dAVE
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