Re: sensor cleaning question
I got my Pentax sensor cleaning kit today from Amazon. Here is a happy clean sensor owner now. Henk Op 2020-09-03 om 22:06 schreef Larry Colen: On Sep 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: There is still availabe a Pentax sensor cleaning kit from Amazon. Do you mean the lollipop? Does anybody use this for K-1 which has no low-pass filter, or is that of no concern in sensor cleaning? I have used it on various occasions. In the past I used to go to the shop to have my sensor cleaned. However, the Pentax kit looks rather easy and safe to use. I mostly use a cheap airbulb, but sometimes there’s something it won’t work on. Henk -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sensor cleaning question
I have a blower bulb, which works well for most things. Not long after I got my istD, some grunge appeared that couldn’t be blown off. I ordered a packet of lollipops. I wasn’t favorably impressed. So I ordered some Sensor Swabs from B&H, which came with a small vial of cleaning fluid (one puts a drop of the fluid on the swab, not directly on the sensor). They worked very well. I still have one swab left from that original package of five, and a few drops of the fluid. Looking at B&H, they now come in a wide variety of sizes and types. Things keep getting more complicated in life. Cheers, Rick > On Sep 3, 2020, at 5:05 PM, John wrote: > > On 9/3/2020 15:57:41, Henk Terhell wrote: >> There is still availabe a Pentax sensor cleaning kit from Amazon. >> Does anybody use this for K-1 which has no low-pass filter, or is that of no >> concern in sensor cleaning? >> In the past I used to go to the shop to have my sensor cleaned. However, the >> Pentax kit looks rather easy and safe to use. >> Henk > > I've never actually cleaned the sensor on my cameras. If it needs cleaning > I'll hand it off to the guy who's at Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography > Weekend. > > Or take it back to the local Pentax dealer and have them do it. > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sensor cleaning question
On 9/3/2020 15:57:41, Henk Terhell wrote: There is still availabe a Pentax sensor cleaning kit from Amazon. Does anybody use this for K-1 which has no low-pass filter, or is that of no concern in sensor cleaning? In the past I used to go to the shop to have my sensor cleaned. However, the Pentax kit looks rather easy and safe to use. Henk I've never actually cleaned the sensor on my cameras. If it needs cleaning I'll hand it off to the guy who's at Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. Or take it back to the local Pentax dealer and have them do it. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sensor cleaning question
Thanks Larry. Yes, the lollipop (I didn't know this knickname). There are a spot of about 3 mm and a lot of small specks on the sensor. I got an airbulb but that won't help. Henk Op 2020-09-03 om 22:06 schreef Larry Colen: On Sep 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: There is still availabe a Pentax sensor cleaning kit from Amazon. Do you mean the lollipop? Does anybody use this for K-1 which has no low-pass filter, or is that of no concern in sensor cleaning? I have used it on various occasions. In the past I used to go to the shop to have my sensor cleaned. However, the Pentax kit looks rather easy and safe to use. I mostly use a cheap airbulb, but sometimes there’s something it won’t work on. Henk -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: sensor cleaning question
> On Sep 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: > > There is still availabe a Pentax sensor cleaning kit from Amazon. Do you mean the lollipop? > Does anybody use this for K-1 which has no low-pass filter, or is that of no > concern in sensor cleaning? I have used it on various occasions. > In the past I used to go to the shop to have my sensor cleaned. However, the > Pentax kit looks rather easy and safe to use. I mostly use a cheap airbulb, but sometimes there’s something it won’t work on. > > Henk > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
sensor cleaning question
There is still availabe a Pentax sensor cleaning kit from Amazon. Does anybody use this for K-1 which has no low-pass filter, or is that of no concern in sensor cleaning? In the past I used to go to the shop to have my sensor cleaned. However, the Pentax kit looks rather easy and safe to use. Henk -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
On 12/10/2012 8:51 AM, Darren Addy wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, William Robb wrote: One day at the studio, I did a little experiment. I took an old UV filter, drew a small circle in it with a felt pen and measured it's transmission properties within that circle on our densitometer . I then emptied an ENTIRE can of Dust-Off at the circled paert of the filter, and them measured it again. There were no differences at all in the two readings. That's a nice experiment, but it provides only one data point for one can of one brand of "dust cleaner" that was produced under one set of meteorological conditions (at the factory) and sprayed under another (one) set of meteorological conditions (humidity/barometric pressure/etc. at your location). In addition, we've all cleaned glass before and understand that there is a difference between clean glass and clean glass with a smeary film on it (that you can see from the side). I'm guessing your densitometer couldn't tell the difference between the two, but I know which I would rather be shooting through. Why do you insist on making crap up. Do you really think I wouldn't be able to see a "smeary film" on a filter? Are you so ignorant of the technology that you don't think a "smeary film" wouldn't register as a density difference to a status densitometer? There was no residue and no measurable discoloration. A densitometer is more sensitive than the human eye to this sort of thing. I think it is always inaccurate, and potentially dangerous, to "paint with a broad brush". When you say "canned air", for instance you are generally using a misnomer and people may tend to lump anything in a similar looking can with similar functionality together in their minds. "Dust Off" in particular is refrigerant-based propellant cleaner, which is not compressed air and incorrectly called "canned air". Calling it "canned air" sounds so harmless, doesn't it? And it may be harmless. "Dust Off" went through a bit of a PR scandal with "huffing" and so a "bitterant" has also been added to the mix. You aren't spraying just air. Go back and read my posts on the subject. I very carefully call the product "canned gas". Why? because I know that it isn't air inside the can. People can misuse anything by using it for what it isn't designed for. We have problems here with young people huffing gasoline and Lysol. This doesn't mean the products aren't good for powering a car or cleaning a floor. Ignoring the potential problems with moisture and humidity (the nozzles are designed to try to cut down on the moisture droplets that can be sprayed) you have a *potential* problem with temperature differences between your equipment and the temperature of the air coming out of your can of refrigerant. Fast expansion/contraction (particularly if it is on just a small part of a surface) can be a Bad Thing. In some 40 years of using this particular product, I have yet to have a problem. The temperature difference is negligable, unless one is stupid enough to hold the can upside down and spray liquid propellent. There is also the logical fallacy of "since I've done *something* X number of times and never experienced a problem" then that is the same as: "doing *something* is not going to cause a problem". There is a reason that they call them Best Practices. 40 years of not having a problem goes way beyond doing something x number of times and not having a problem. On the other hand it is worth remembering that you aren't touching the surface of the sensor itself, but a filter that is in front of it. I wonder how sensor cleaning works on cameras with no anti-alias filter. Is there still a hot-filter in front of the sensor (for IR)? Not a concern for me, every DLSR camera I own has a cover glass. of some sort. However, the bottom line in all of this was well-spoken by the Isley Brothers in their 1969 hit: "It's Your Thing (Do What You Want To Do)". If you ask the question, you may get a wide range of answers but it is up to you to decide what you are comfortable with for your equipment. As I said, my cleaning methods do cause some people to jerk their knees and curl up into little foetal balls and make mewling kitten noises. You appear to be one of the ones affected badly. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > On the other hand it is worth remembering that you aren't touching the > surface of the sensor itself, but a filter that is in front of it. I > wonder how sensor cleaning works on cameras with no anti-alias filter. > Is there still a hot-filter in front of the sensor (for IR)? When the D800E came out, there were diagrams of its filter arrangement, e.g.: http://photographylife.com/nikon-d800-vs-d800e In the normal D800, the arrangement is something like this: [ AA - ] [ IR ] [ AA | ] [ Sensor ] The AA filters are made of birefringent material, which splits an image in two, depending on the polarization. One AA filter doubles the image with a slight displacement in the horizontal direction, and the other doubles the image slightly in the vertical direction. There is an IR-blocking filter between them. In the D800E, the arrangement is: [ AA - ] [ IR ] [ AA - ] [ Sensor ] That is both AA filters operate in the horizontal direction, but in the opposite sense--the first filter splits the image, and the second recombines them, so the net effect is as if there were no AA filter at all. I presume that they chose this method because the filters all have some refractive power; by using the same number and composition of filter layers, they can keep the camera mechanically identical (i.e. with the sensor and filters the same distance from the lens mount). If they removed the filters, they would have to adjust the sensor position slightly. It's sort of like the "mandatory" clear filters in lenses that take internal rear filters. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, William Robb wrote: > One day at the studio, I did a little experiment. I took an old UV filter, > drew a small circle in it with a felt pen and measured it's transmission > properties within that circle on our densitometer . I then emptied an ENTIRE > can of Dust-Off at the circled paert of the filter, and them measured it > again. There were no differences at all in the two readings. That's a nice experiment, but it provides only one data point for one can of one brand of "dust cleaner" that was produced under one set of meteorological conditions (at the factory) and sprayed under another (one) set of meteorological conditions (humidity/barometric pressure/etc. at your location). In addition, we've all cleaned glass before and understand that there is a difference between clean glass and clean glass with a smeary film on it (that you can see from the side). I'm guessing your densitometer couldn't tell the difference between the two, but I know which I would rather be shooting through. I think it is always inaccurate, and potentially dangerous, to "paint with a broad brush". When you say "canned air", for instance you are generally using a misnomer and people may tend to lump anything in a similar looking can with similar functionality together in their minds. "Dust Off" in particular is refrigerant-based propellant cleaner, which is not compressed air and incorrectly called "canned air". Calling it "canned air" sounds so harmless, doesn't it? And it may be harmless. "Dust Off" went through a bit of a PR scandal with "huffing" and so a "bitterant" has also been added to the mix. You aren't spraying just air. Ignoring the potential problems with moisture and humidity (the nozzles are designed to try to cut down on the moisture droplets that can be sprayed) you have a *potential* problem with temperature differences between your equipment and the temperature of the air coming out of your can of refrigerant. Fast expansion/contraction (particularly if it is on just a small part of a surface) can be a Bad Thing. There is also the logical fallacy of "since I've done *something* X number of times and never experienced a problem" then that is the same as: "doing *something* is not going to cause a problem". There is a reason that they call them Best Practices. On the other hand it is worth remembering that you aren't touching the surface of the sensor itself, but a filter that is in front of it. I wonder how sensor cleaning works on cameras with no anti-alias filter. Is there still a hot-filter in front of the sensor (for IR)? However, the bottom line in all of this was well-spoken by the Isley Brothers in their 1969 hit: "It's Your Thing (Do What You Want To Do)". If you ask the question, you may get a wide range of answers but it is up to you to decide what you are comfortable with for your equipment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
On 10/10/2012 4:10 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Bill, I've heard this talk before, but you must be careful. I bought some canned cleaner stuff at Fry's Electronics. It was called Air Duster (by Memorex, I think) and I was cautious. It said, "Excellent for Cleaning: Computers, Office Equipment Photo/Video Equipment and Electronics" I tested on a surface and found residue was left behind. I read further under Caution:... Chemical contact with flames or very hot surfaces can cause vapor decomposition and toxic gases. This product is not defined as flammable by 1500.3 (c)... However, this product can be ignited under certain circumstances. Do not use near potential ignition sources, hot surfaces, or spark-producing equipment. So the next time I had the outdoor gas barbecue grill fired up, I gave it a test. I figured I might blow away some of the accumulated crud. Wow, I got a huge fireball covering half the grill. So much for 'not defined as flammable'. So you might use caution using 'dust off' on your camera gear. Dust Off is a brand name, not a generic term. Test it first! Read the MSDS. There are something like 3 different chemical compounds being used for canned gas, though I think most of them are diflouroethane. http://mfc.engr.arizona.edu/safety/MSDS%20FOLDER/Memorex%20Air%20Duster%20MSDS.pdf http://www.sisweb.com/referenc/msds/dustoff.pdf What differs between Dust-Off and the others, I suspect, is the level of purity. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
Bill, I've heard this talk before, but you must be careful. I bought some canned cleaner stuff at Fry's Electronics. It was called Air Duster (by Memorex, I think) and I was cautious. It said, "Excellent for Cleaning: Computers, Office Equipment Photo/Video Equipment and Electronics" I tested on a surface and found residue was left behind. I read further under Caution:... Chemical contact with flames or very hot surfaces can cause vapor decomposition and toxic gases. This product is not defined as flammable by 1500.3 (c)... However, this product can be ignited under certain circumstances. Do not use near potential ignition sources, hot surfaces, or spark-producing equipment. So the next time I had the outdoor gas barbecue grill fired up, I gave it a test. I figured I might blow away some of the accumulated crud. Wow, I got a huge fireball covering half the grill. So much for 'not defined as flammable'. So you might use caution using 'dust off' on your camera gear. Test it first! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, William Robb wrote: > On 10/10/2012 1:05 PM, Tom C wrote: >>> >>> People make mad cat sounds when I say this, but my first cleaning method >>> is still canned gas. I've polled a couple of other websites and have >>> come up with absolutely no verifiable evidence that anyone has ever >>> damaged a camera using Dust Off. >>> I always do a "practice squirt" away from the camera to ensure that no >>> propellant is going to come out. >>> After that, if I still have dust, I go to the wet cleaners, which I have >>> had to do exactly 3 times now since I bought my first DLSR in 2003. >>> >>> William Robb >> >> >> ME! >> >> That's exactly what I do. I spray for about 2 seconds on the back of >> my hand just in case (and to check if there's any kind of residue). >> There never was but once and continuing to spray then showed none. I >> then spray the compressed air over the sensor. >> >> I've never cleaned the sensor(s) any other way in the past 10 years >> and have never seen any discoloration or any other kind of sensor >> damage. >> >> I think it's far riskier to touch the sensor with a solid object, and >> what if I notice a film or residue from a liquid? Then I'd definitely >> have to rub. >> > > One day at the studio, I did a little experiment. I took an old UV filter, > drew a small circle in it with a felt pen and measured it's transmission > properties within that circle on our densitometer . I then emptied an ENTIRE > can of Dust-Off at the circled paert of the filter, and them measured it > again. There were no differences at all in the two readings. > > -- > > William Robb > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
On 10/10/2012 1:05 PM, Tom C wrote: People make mad cat sounds when I say this, but my first cleaning method is still canned gas. I've polled a couple of other websites and have come up with absolutely no verifiable evidence that anyone has ever damaged a camera using Dust Off. I always do a "practice squirt" away from the camera to ensure that no propellant is going to come out. After that, if I still have dust, I go to the wet cleaners, which I have had to do exactly 3 times now since I bought my first DLSR in 2003. William Robb ME! That's exactly what I do. I spray for about 2 seconds on the back of my hand just in case (and to check if there's any kind of residue). There never was but once and continuing to spray then showed none. I then spray the compressed air over the sensor. I've never cleaned the sensor(s) any other way in the past 10 years and have never seen any discoloration or any other kind of sensor damage. I think it's far riskier to touch the sensor with a solid object, and what if I notice a film or residue from a liquid? Then I'd definitely have to rub. One day at the studio, I did a little experiment. I took an old UV filter, drew a small circle in it with a felt pen and measured it's transmission properties within that circle on our densitometer . I then emptied an ENTIRE can of Dust-Off at the circled paert of the filter, and them measured it again. There were no differences at all in the two readings. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
> People make mad cat sounds when I say this, but my first cleaning method > is still canned gas. I've polled a couple of other websites and have > come up with absolutely no verifiable evidence that anyone has ever > damaged a camera using Dust Off. > I always do a "practice squirt" away from the camera to ensure that no > propellant is going to come out. > After that, if I still have dust, I go to the wet cleaners, which I have > had to do exactly 3 times now since I bought my first DLSR in 2003. > > William Robb ME! That's exactly what I do. I spray for about 2 seconds on the back of my hand just in case (and to check if there's any kind of residue). There never was but once and continuing to spray then showed none. I then spray the compressed air over the sensor. I've never cleaned the sensor(s) any other way in the past 10 years and have never seen any discoloration or any other kind of sensor damage. I think it's far riskier to touch the sensor with a solid object, and what if I notice a film or residue from a liquid? Then I'd definitely have to rub. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, William Robb wrote: > On 08/10/2012 11:36 AM, John Celio wrote: >> After shooting the Fleet Week air show in San Francisco last Saturday, >> I noticed I've got a TON of dust on my K-5's sensor. My blower >> couldn't remove some of it, so I need something better. It's been a >> long time since I had to do more than use the blower or the camera's >> dust removal feature, so I'm wondering what you guys recommend for >> sensor cleaning these days. >> >> Back at my old camera shop, we used Sensor Swabs and Eclipse cleaning >> fluid. Are there better options out there? >> >> Thanks, >> John >> > People make mad cat sounds when I say this, but my first cleaning method is > still canned gas. I've polled a couple of other websites and have come up > with absolutely no verifiable evidence that anyone has ever damaged a camera > using Dust Off. If Walt takes a look at the mirror on his K100, he can see a bit of discoloration from my using dustoff to clean the mirror. > I always do a "practice squirt" away from the camera to ensure that no > propellant is going to come out. > After that, if I still have dust, I go to the wet cleaners, which I have had > to do exactly 3 times now since I bought my first DLSR in 2003. I have one of the Pentax sensor cleaning lollipops. > > > -- > > William Robb > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
On 08/10/2012 11:36 AM, John Celio wrote: After shooting the Fleet Week air show in San Francisco last Saturday, I noticed I've got a TON of dust on my K-5's sensor. My blower couldn't remove some of it, so I need something better. It's been a long time since I had to do more than use the blower or the camera's dust removal feature, so I'm wondering what you guys recommend for sensor cleaning these days. Back at my old camera shop, we used Sensor Swabs and Eclipse cleaning fluid. Are there better options out there? Thanks, John People make mad cat sounds when I say this, but my first cleaning method is still canned gas. I've polled a couple of other websites and have come up with absolutely no verifiable evidence that anyone has ever damaged a camera using Dust Off. I always do a "practice squirt" away from the camera to ensure that no propellant is going to come out. After that, if I still have dust, I go to the wet cleaners, which I have had to do exactly 3 times now since I bought my first DLSR in 2003. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor cleaning - What's the latest and greatest?
That is still the recommended procedure as far as I know. I bought a kit off of Amazon that had everything in it together (sensor cleaning kit), but it was kind of a waste if you already have a good blower. Worked well for me. Darren On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:36 PM, John Celio wrote: > After shooting the Fleet Week air show in San Francisco last Saturday, > I noticed I've got a TON of dust on my K-5's sensor. My blower > couldn't remove some of it, so I need something better. It's been a > long time since I had to do more than use the blower or the camera's > dust removal feature, so I'm wondering what you guys recommend for > sensor cleaning these days. > > Back at my old camera shop, we used Sensor Swabs and Eclipse cleaning > fluid. Are there better options out there? > > Thanks, > John > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- "The key to seeing the world's soul, and in the process wakening one's own, is to get over the confusion by which we think that fact is real and imagination an illusion. It is the other way around." -Thomas Moore, "Original Self" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Powered DSLR CCD Sensor Cleaning Kit - Photo & Camera
It looks like it might suck. The real question is, does it blend? 2011/4/19 Matthew Hunt : > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics > wrote: > >> As for whether this particular solution sucks.. I have no experience. > > Most of what DealExtreme sells sucks. I say that as a satisfied > customer who will shop with them again. When you want stuff that's > ridiculously cheap and of dubious quality (and even legality), they're > the place to go. > > The immediate vicinity of my CCD, however, is not the place that I > want DealExtreme-quality merchandise. > > More generally, I get nervous about motors and vacuums around (and in > contact with) a CCD, as they are static-sensitive devices. Maybe it's > OK, but the idea makes me nervous. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Powered DSLR CCD Sensor Cleaning Kit - Photo & Camera
Not a clue. Still if you like toys there are probably worse things to spend a $17.00 on. On 4/19/2011 3:59 AM, Roman Melihhov wrote: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/powered-dslr-ccd-sensor-cleaning-kit-6100?r=69122903 What do you think of this powered CCD cleaner? Looks like interesting concept but does it really suck all that dust? -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Powered DSLR CCD Sensor Cleaning Kit - Photo & Camera
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: > As for whether this particular solution sucks.. I have no experience. Most of what DealExtreme sells sucks. I say that as a satisfied customer who will shop with them again. When you want stuff that's ridiculously cheap and of dubious quality (and even legality), they're the place to go. The immediate vicinity of my CCD, however, is not the place that I want DealExtreme-quality merchandise. More generally, I get nervous about motors and vacuums around (and in contact with) a CCD, as they are static-sensitive devices. Maybe it's OK, but the idea makes me nervous. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Powered DSLR CCD Sensor Cleaning Kit - Photo & Camera
> Roman Melihhov > > http://www.dealextreme.com/p/powered-dslr-ccd-sensor-cleaning-kit- > 6100?r=69122903 > > What do you think of this powered CCD cleaner? Looks like interesting > concept but does it really suck all that dust? Sucking has always seemed to me like the most worthwhile cleaning activity because it has the greatest potential of actually removing dirt that has not yet glued itself to the sensor. You don't really need a lot of power to suck out dust and especially with the Pentax stabilized sensors I would avoid using high power for the fear of breaking the shake reduction. As for whether this particular solution sucks.. I have no experience. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Powered DSLR CCD Sensor Cleaning Kit - Photo & Camera
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/powered-dslr-ccd-sensor-cleaning-kit-6100?r=69122903 What do you think of this powered CCD cleaner? Looks like interesting concept but does it really suck all that dust? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
On 2/7/2011 11:43 PM, William Robb wrote: On 07/02/2011 10:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: - but it just seemed wrong somehow Wrong is tying a sheep to a lamp post and calling it a rec centre. I think that's a little beyond wrong... -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
I don't know of any bona fide, examples of cameras being ruined but I have ruined clear plastic parts cleaning them with off brand caned air cleaners. I have had no problems with relatively low pressure systems such as dust off, as long as you handle them correctly., (as Bill described). The brand I currently use is 3M Dust remover, it's less expensive than dust off but just as reliable. On 2/7/2011 11:10 PM, William Robb wrote: On 07/02/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? I always make people cringe when I say this, but I use canned gas, specifically Dust-Off. To all the nattering nabobs, I say I've yet to damage anything ever using canned gas. I ran a poll one time over on ForumsNeurotica when the whimperers of doom cried that surely the sun would explode and all life in the solar system would be obliterated in a cataclysm of fusion because of my habits regarding sensor cleaning, asking if anyone could come up with a bona fide and reputable report about canned gas wrecking a camera. The silence was astounding. Caveat: Always squirt a wee shot of gas anywhere but inside your camera before blowing off the sensor on the off chance that there actually is some liquid propellant in the nozzle. On the very rare occasion that I need a wet clean, I use a visible dust swab and whatever is in the ridiculously overpriced bottle of poo that I had to buy to keep my pusher happy. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sensor Cleaning
I had some dust issues with the Ds, and eventually bought the Pentax Q-tip to settle matters. Worked like good magic, no hangovers nor headaches after the performance. Curiously, some net addresses mention a similar product from Canon, said to be sold only in JP - and no Pentax cleaning tool. Shooting wide open helps a lot - I'm positive both cameras have some spots that just don't show at the large apertures I've been using lately. Some other day I'll get to clean them. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe Ken's words: >I've had 3 Pentax digital SLRS and sensor cleaning is a very seldom needed >thing with my cameras - I go out of my way to keep dirt out and I've shot in >freezing snow storms, pouring rain and high winds in the desert. >When changing lenses,I keep the camera body opening facing down and am as >quick as I can be in reattaching the lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:06:52AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, David Parsons > > wrote: > >> I store my camera and lenses in a bag of sand and have never needed to > >> clean them. They are just that awesome. > > > > One can only assume from this that you don't feel the need to make > > photographs with them, eh? > > What a coincidence, that's the conclusion people come to after looking at my > PESOs. Personally, I suspect most people reach exactly the opposite conclusion ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, David Parsons wrote: >> I store my camera and lenses in a bag of sand and have never needed to >> clean them. They are just that awesome. > > One can only assume from this that you don't feel the need to make > photographs with them, eh? What a coincidence, that's the conclusion people come to after looking at my PESOs. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, David Parsons wrote: > I store my camera and lenses in a bag of sand and have never needed to > clean them. They are just that awesome. One can only assume from this that you don't feel the need to make photographs with them, eh? ]'-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/2/10 David Parsons : > I store my camera and lenses in a bag of sand and have never needed to > clean them. They are just that awesome. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I store my camera and lenses in a bag of sand and have never needed to clean them. They are just that awesome. :) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > I've had 3 Pentax digital SLRS and sensor cleaning is a very seldom needed > thing with my cameras - I go out of my way to keep dirt out and I've shot in > freezing snow storms, pouring rain and high winds in the desert. > When changing lenses,I keep the camera body opening facing down and am as > quick as I can be in reattaching the lens. > > > > -Original Message- >>From: Glen Berry >>Subject: Sensor Cleaning >> >>Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >>the directions. > > > > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: > Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? My favorite way to get a clean sensor is to buy a new camera. However, there are certain financial limitations that I face in that endeavor, so I most often just blow them clean with my rocket blower. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > I've had 3 Pentax digital SLRS and sensor cleaning is a very seldom needed > thing with my cameras - I go out of my way to keep dirt out and I've shot in > freezing snow storms, pouring rain and high winds in the desert. > When changing lenses,I keep the camera body opening facing down and am as > quick as I can be in reattaching the lens. Ken, Dust inevitably gets into the camera and onto the sensor, no matter what you do. You may never see it if you shoot near wide open with fast lenses all the time, but if you want to check whether you have dust on the sensor, point your camera at a white wall and make a couple of exposures at f/22. I check for dust (even with the FourThirds equipment and its SSWF cleaning business) every time I'm going out to shoot stuff that I'll be stopped way down on the tripod with a clear sky. First times I did it with the 10D and *ist DS, I was horrified how much dirt that I'd never seen before was on the sensor! Sticking with f/1.4 to f/2.8 lenses and shooting near wide open most of the time simply masked it from view. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
I've had 3 Pentax digital SLRS and sensor cleaning is a very seldom needed thing with my cameras - I go out of my way to keep dirt out and I've shot in freezing snow storms, pouring rain and high winds in the desert. When changing lenses,I keep the camera body opening facing down and am as quick as I can be in reattaching the lens. -Original Message- >From: Glen Berry >Subject: Sensor Cleaning > >Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > On Feb 8, 2011, at 13:07, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> I remember having to clean my Canon's sensor often, the Pentax *ist DS >> sensor once in a while, and a little less often the K10D's sensor. I >> used the original sensor brush from VisibleDust >> (http://www.visibledust.ca/) long before they offered many other >> products to do the job. Still have it ... it sits unused in a drawer. >> >> Since I went to FourThirds format cameras, I haven't had to clean >> anything in 50,000+ exposures. The SSWF sensor cleaning system is very >> nearly 100% effective at keeping any schmutz off the sensor and out of >> the photos. It's one of the delightful simplifications that I love. >> > > I've found similar joy with the K-7. No problems (yet) in a half-year of use. > > Before then, I used the Pec-Pad/Eclipse fluid approach. Worked pretty well > once you get over the fear. > > Ditto. Neither my K-7 nor my K-5 have required frequent cleaning. I think I used the rubber bulb blower once on the K-7 in about 25,000 exposures, and I have yet to use it on the K-5, which is at 13,000 exposures. I had the "clean sensor at startup" function turned off in the k-7, but turned it on occasionally. I have it set to vibrate at startup in the K-5. Figure it must be a good thing if Pentax continued with it in the new camera. Paul > > -- > Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 8, 2011, at 13:07, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I remember having to clean my Canon's sensor often, the Pentax *ist DS > sensor once in a while, and a little less often the K10D's sensor. I > used the original sensor brush from VisibleDust > (http://www.visibledust.ca/) long before they offered many other > products to do the job. Still have it ... it sits unused in a drawer. > > Since I went to FourThirds format cameras, I haven't had to clean > anything in 50,000+ exposures. The SSWF sensor cleaning system is very > nearly 100% effective at keeping any schmutz off the sensor and out of > the photos. It's one of the delightful simplifications that I love. > I've found similar joy with the K-7. No problems (yet) in a half-year of use. Before then, I used the Pec-Pad/Eclipse fluid approach. Worked pretty well once you get over the fear. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:51:36 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: >> Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? > >I have never had to wet clean any of my Pentax Dslr's i use the sensor >shake and or a good blower. > >I have had to wet clean my D1 and D2H and i took them to Nikon Canada >to do for $90.00 a body. > >I'm a wimp The past couple of years at GFM Don has has a professional camera tech (Berrie Smith) doing sensor cleanings on site, while you wait. I think he was charging about $30.00. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
I remember having to clean my Canon's sensor often, the Pentax *ist DS sensor once in a while, and a little less often the K10D's sensor. I used the original sensor brush from VisibleDust (http://www.visibledust.ca/) long before they offered many other products to do the job. Still have it ... it sits unused in a drawer. Since I went to FourThirds format cameras, I haven't had to clean anything in 50,000+ exposures. The SSWF sensor cleaning system is very nearly 100% effective at keeping any schmutz off the sensor and out of the photos. It's one of the delightful simplifications that I love. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: > Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? > I have never had to wet clean any of my Pentax Dslr's i use the sensor shake and or a good blower. I have had to wet clean my D1 and D2H and i took them to Nikon Canada to do for $90.00 a body. I'm a wimp Dave > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've ruined film with canned air. It's a rare occurrence, but it can happen, so I'm definitely not going to use it on my sensor. The sterile rubber bulb gives a quick short blast that is nearly as powerful as canned air and guaranteed clean. Paul On Feb 8, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > I've used canned air a couple of times, though I'm a little more leery of it > than Bill R., mainly because I'm a tad paranoid about the idea of a freak > propellant discharge. > > Usually, I use one of those nasal bulb aspirators (http://is.gd/l6xxr3) with > a small hole punched in the back and a pet nursing nipple > (http://is.gd/qXOmmK) attached to the end, trimmed back just enough to allow > air to pass through it without too much effort, but small enough to make sure > a fairly concentrated stream of air passes through, and to prevent any dust > other debris from getting inside the bulb. > > The bulb set me back about two bucks, and I had the nursing nipple left over > from feeding a puppy that lost its mother. > > I almost hit the floor when I saw the price of the sticky-type cleaning wands > at the camera shop -- $89.00 if I recall correctly. If my sensor ever gets > that dirty, I'll just take it in and have the thing cleaned. > > My two-dollar air blaster hasn't failed me yet. > > -- Walt > > On 2/7/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: >> Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
I use a sterile ear blower for minor cleanups. If I get something that won't budge with a blast from the ear bulb, I use the Pentax sticky pad. Always works. Paul On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: > Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
2011/2/8 Rob Studdert : > > the Pentax sticky sensor cleaner O-ICK1 works like a charm hth ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pay a visit to local service center where they do so free of charge in a matter of an hour or so. On 2/8/2011 5:46 AM, Glen Berry wrote: Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:10 PM, William Robb wrote: > On 07/02/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: >> Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? >> > I always make people cringe when I say this, but I use canned gas, > specifically Dust-Off. > To all the nattering nabobs, I say I've yet to damage anything ever using > canned gas. > I ran a poll one time over on ForumsNeurotica when the whimperers of doom > cried that surely the sun would explode and all life in the solar system > would be obliterated in a cataclysm of fusion because of my habits regarding > sensor cleaning, asking if anyone could come up with a bona fide and > reputable report about canned gas wrecking a camera. I didn't wreck a camera, but I did discolor the mirror on my K100 with canned air. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:43 PM, William Robb wrote: > On 07/02/2011 10:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: >> > > - but it just seemed wrong somehow >> > > Wrong is tying a sheep to a lamp post and calling it a rec centre. Wrong? In some places they call that Saturday night. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: > Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? Steel wool. Or bring to that guy at GFM. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\<,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor Cleaning
Almost everything you wanted to know about sensor cleaning http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/index.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:36 -0600, "Walter Gilbert" wrote: > I've used canned air a couple of times, though I'm a little more leery > of it than Bill R., mainly because I'm a tad paranoid about the idea of > a freak propellant discharge. > > Usually, I use one of those nasal bulb aspirators (http://is.gd/l6xxr3) > with a small hole punched in the back and a pet nursing nipple > (http://is.gd/qXOmmK) attached to the end, trimmed back just enough to > allow air to pass through it without too much effort, but small enough > to make sure a fairly concentrated stream of air passes through, and to > prevent any dust other debris from getting inside the bulb. > > The bulb set me back about two bucks, and I had the nursing nipple left > over from feeding a puppy that lost its mother. > > I almost hit the floor when I saw the price of the sticky-type cleaning > wands at the camera shop -- $89.00 if I recall correctly. If my sensor > ever gets that dirty, I'll just take it in and have the thing cleaned. > > My two-dollar air blaster hasn't failed me yet. > > -- Walt > > On 2/7/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: > > Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? > > > > -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've used canned air a couple of times, though I'm a little more leery of it than Bill R., mainly because I'm a tad paranoid about the idea of a freak propellant discharge. Usually, I use one of those nasal bulb aspirators (http://is.gd/l6xxr3) with a small hole punched in the back and a pet nursing nipple (http://is.gd/qXOmmK) attached to the end, trimmed back just enough to allow air to pass through it without too much effort, but small enough to make sure a fairly concentrated stream of air passes through, and to prevent any dust other debris from getting inside the bulb. The bulb set me back about two bucks, and I had the nursing nipple left over from feeding a puppy that lost its mother. I almost hit the floor when I saw the price of the sticky-type cleaning wands at the camera shop -- $89.00 if I recall correctly. If my sensor ever gets that dirty, I'll just take it in and have the thing cleaned. My two-dollar air blaster hasn't failed me yet. -- Walt On 2/7/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Glen Berry Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? Pay someone whose competence I trust. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3427 - Release Date: 02/06/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I use compressed helium. It worked well until the DS floated away. -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:29:56 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor Cleaning On 8 February 2011 15:10, William Robb wrote: > On 07/02/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: >> >> Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? >> > I always make people cringe when I say this, but I use canned gas, > specifically Dust-Off. > To all the nattering nabobs, I say I've yet to damage anything ever using > canned gas. Nor a 100PSI stream of compressed air out of a 1mm aperture, I've cleaned dozens of camera sensor and lenses with my compressor without causing the slightest damage but am constantly told that it would definitely screw the camera. Canned gas is too expensive and it's a PITA to ship, for out of office sensor cleaning the Pentax sticky kit always solves the problem, it's not much fun to use though. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8 February 2011 15:46, William Robb wrote: > Yeah, the stuff has to be available. We buy it b=8 cans at a time in flats > from Costco. > I think I've gone through 3 cans of the stuff since I bought my istD back in > 2003. > If I was cleaning sensors commercially, I would probably rent a tank of > nitrogen (I could use it to fill my truck tyres as well), but for the > occasional use that I make of the stuff, it isn't terribly expensive. That's what I had before I got my compressor (from a local photo lab that closed), the compressor cost me less than two years rent on the bottle and it takes up a lot less space: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/P5115011.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/IMG_0003.JPG -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 07/02/2011 10:29 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Nor a 100PSI stream of compressed air out of a 1mm aperture, I've cleaned dozens of camera sensor and lenses with my compressor without causing the slightest damage but am constantly told that it would definitely screw the camera. Canned gas is too expensive and it's a PITA to ship, for out of office sensor cleaning the Pentax sticky kit always solves the problem, it's not much fun to use though. Yeah, the stuff has to be available. We buy it b=8 cans at a time in flats from Costco. I think I've gone through 3 cans of the stuff since I bought my istD back in 2003. If I was cleaning sensors commercially, I would probably rent a tank of nitrogen (I could use it to fill my truck tyres as well), but for the occasional use that I make of the stuff, it isn't terribly expensive. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 07/02/2011 10:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: - but it just seemed wrong somehow Wrong is tying a sheep to a lamp post and calling it a rec centre. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8 February 2011 15:10, William Robb wrote: > On 07/02/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: >> >> Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? >> > I always make people cringe when I say this, but I use canned gas, > specifically Dust-Off. > To all the nattering nabobs, I say I've yet to damage anything ever using > canned gas. Nor a 100PSI stream of compressed air out of a 1mm aperture, I've cleaned dozens of camera sensor and lenses with my compressor without causing the slightest damage but am constantly told that it would definitely screw the camera. Canned gas is too expensive and it's a PITA to ship, for out of office sensor cleaning the Pentax sticky kit always solves the problem, it's not much fun to use though. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 22:46 -0500, "Glen Berry" wrote: > Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? > Favourite is not a word I would apply to sensor cleaning. With the 200D I haven't needed to use more than an occasional burst of air from a rubber blower. The SR seems particularly good on that model. With the *ist DS, I use a three step approach: 1. The rubber blower. 2. If (1) isn't enough, a nylon artist's brush lightly across the sensor, followed by (1) again. 3. If (2) isn't enough, a wet swab using PecPads, Eclipse solution and a home made swab. I have used the Robb canned air method once or twice. Worked well, no damage - but it just seemed wrong somehow Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 07/02/2011 9:46 PM, Glen Berry wrote: Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? I always make people cringe when I say this, but I use canned gas, specifically Dust-Off. To all the nattering nabobs, I say I've yet to damage anything ever using canned gas. I ran a poll one time over on ForumsNeurotica when the whimperers of doom cried that surely the sun would explode and all life in the solar system would be obliterated in a cataclysm of fusion because of my habits regarding sensor cleaning, asking if anyone could come up with a bona fide and reputable report about canned gas wrecking a camera. The silence was astounding. Caveat: Always squirt a wee shot of gas anywhere but inside your camera before blowing off the sensor on the off chance that there actually is some liquid propellant in the nozzle. On the very rare occasion that I need a wet clean, I use a visible dust swab and whatever is in the ridiculously overpriced bottle of poo that I had to buy to keep my pusher happy. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8 February 2011 14:46, Glen Berry wrote: > Whats your favorite way to clean the sensor in your Pentax DSLR? Favoured maybe, sensor cleaning is a last resort. I use a burst of filtered compressed air (not canned) then if that doesn't work I use the Pentax sticky sensor cleaner O-ICK1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLDwbR3V54 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I recognize the thinly veiled reference to me, P.J.. I'll no doubt prove you right when my copy arrives. =) Jack --- On Sat, 9/19/09, P. J. Alling wrote: > From: P. J. Alling > Subject: Re: Pentax sensor cleaning kit > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 6:26 AM > David J Brooks wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:20 AM, paul stenquist > wrote: > > > >> I paid $60 U.S. It's worth it if you need it. I > had a speck that my ear > >> blower wouldn't dislodge, and I'd rather not mess > with fluids and the like > >> > > > > Nor I. > > > > . > > > >> The ICK is idiot proof, which is always a good > thing. > >> > > > > Then it is definitely for me. > > > > Dave > > > >> Paul > >> > I've read the instructions. I'm sure a dedicated > idiot could screw it up. > > > -- > > > The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with > either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with > gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he > might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is > not a free man any more than a dog. > > --G. K. Chesterton > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: >> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:20 AM, paul stenquist >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I paid $60 U.S. It's worth it if you need it. I had a speck that my ear >>> blower wouldn't dislodge, and I'd rather not mess with fluids and the >>> like >>> >> >> Nor I. >> >> . >> >>> >>> The ICK is idiot proof, which is always a good thing. >>> >> >> Then it is definitely for me. >> >> Dave >> >>> >>> Paul >>> > > I've read the instructions. I'm sure a dedicated idiot could screw it up. Good to know. Don't read the instructions then Dave > > > -- > > > The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or > drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a > damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is > not a free man any more than a dog. > > --G. K. Chesterton > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:20 AM, paul stenquist wrote: I paid $60 U.S. It's worth it if you need it. I had a speck that my ear blower wouldn't dislodge, and I'd rather not mess with fluids and the like Nor I. . The ICK is idiot proof, which is always a good thing. Then it is definitely for me. Dave Paul I've read the instructions. I'm sure a dedicated idiot could screw it up. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:20 AM, paul stenquist wrote: > I paid $60 U.S. It's worth it if you need it. I had a speck that my ear > blower wouldn't dislodge, and I'd rather not mess with fluids and the like Nor I. . > The ICK is idiot proof, which is always a good thing. Then it is definitely for me. Dave > Paul -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I paid $60 U.S. It's worth it if you need it. I had a speck that my ear blower wouldn't dislodge, and I'd rather not mess with fluids and the like. The ICK is idiot proof, which is always a good thing. Paul On Sep 19, 2009, at 7:01 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I see Hnerys has the ICK listed for $70.00 Canadian, as special stock. They have some, just don't know who much.:-0 Is it worth $70.00.?? Dave On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Big thanks, Paul--and everyone else. I'll try the ICK kit first since it's easier. Thanks John for the how-to info. Much appreciated. Cheers, Christine -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I see Hnerys has the ICK listed for $70.00 Canadian, as special stock. They have some, just don't know who much.:-0 Is it worth $70.00.?? Dave On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Big thanks, Paul--and everyone else. I'll try the ICK kit first since it's > easier. Thanks John for the how-to info. Much appreciated. Cheers, > Christine > > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Big thanks, Paul--and everyone else. I'll try the ICK kit first since it's easier. Thanks John for the how-to info. Much appreciated. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:34 AM Subject: Re: Pentax sensor cleaning kit On Sep 18, 2009, at 12:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor cleaning kit today on the Pentax web site & couldn't find it. I also checked B & H and Amazon. Where did you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). Cheers, Christine Hi Christine, I finally found it at opticsplanet.com: http://www.opticsplanet.net/pentax-image-sensor-cleaning-kit-o-ick1.html Best, Paul - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and easy alternative. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have used the Pentax kit (which I bought on eBay, Christine) and Pec Pads with E2. The pads and fluid work better, and are quicker and easier, IMHO.. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 9/18/09, John Graves wrote: > It seems that the Pentax kit is sold > out, at least those under $60. But > here is an interesting web site I found in my search. > > http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/ > > Based on what the sites says, I would tend to buy a package > of Pec Pads > and a bottle of Eclipse E2 fluid. Has anyone had any > experience with > any of the other than Pentax kits? So far I have been able > to blow the > few dust bits off the sensor. I am also sure my day > will come. > > John Graves > WA1JG > jh.gra...@verizon.net > > eckinator wrote: > > Got mine on amazon - look for Pentax ICK-1 > > Cheers > > Ecke > > > > 2009/9/18 Christine Aguila : > >> Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor > cleaning kit today on the Pentax > >> web site & couldn't find it. I also > checked B & H and Amazon. Where did > >> you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). > Cheers, Christine > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message - From: "paul > stenquist" > >> > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM > >> Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit > >> > >> > >>> My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I > had a black spec on my K7D > >>> sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear > blower. I read the > >>> instructions and dabbed away at the sensor > with the Pentax tool. A > >>> subsequent test showed the sensor to be > perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor > >>> cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use > tool. This was the first time > >>> in about five years of shooting with digital > SLRs that I experienced dirt > >>> that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to > know there's another safe and > >>> easy alternative. > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link directly above and > >>> follow the directions. > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.105/2380 - > Release Date: 09/18/09 07:49:00 > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The wet approach could be the only successful solution in case of oily stains or halos, such as fingerprints. It seems that you'd need malice aforethought to get fingerprints on a sensor. Dario Bonazza wrote: Charles Robinson wrote: On Sep 18, 2009, at 9:45, John Graves wrote: It seems that the Pentax kit is sold out, at least those under $60. But here is an interesting web site I found in my search. http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/ Based on what the sites says, I would tend to buy a package of Pec Pads and a bottle of Eclipse E2 fluid. Has anyone had any experience with any of the other than Pentax kits? So far I have been able to blow the few dust bits off the sensor. I am also sure my day will come. I've been using the "Pec Pads" and E2 with fair success. The new "E2" fluid is a lot less volatile than the E1 fluid - takes a long time to evaporate, which can be a bit unnerving. It works fine. I paid $45 or so for the kit and it's lasted me a few years already (and should last another 10-20 at the rate I'm using it). Takes a bit of practice, but it's not impossible. I would be interested to see the "ICK" in action - might be easier since there is no danger of over-wetting anything! I've been using both the Eclipse/PecPad and the ICK1. The ICK1 is a lot easier to use, and makes you confident of not damaging anything. The wet approach could be the only successful solution in case of oily stains or halos, such as fingerprints. I keep my Eclipse/PecPad kit ready in the cabinet, just in case... Dario -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Charles Robinson wrote: On Sep 18, 2009, at 9:45, John Graves wrote: It seems that the Pentax kit is sold out, at least those under $60. But here is an interesting web site I found in my search. http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/ Based on what the sites says, I would tend to buy a package of Pec Pads and a bottle of Eclipse E2 fluid. Has anyone had any experience with any of the other than Pentax kits? So far I have been able to blow the few dust bits off the sensor. I am also sure my day will come. I've been using the "Pec Pads" and E2 with fair success. The new "E2" fluid is a lot less volatile than the E1 fluid - takes a long time to evaporate, which can be a bit unnerving. It works fine. I paid $45 or so for the kit and it's lasted me a few years already (and should last another 10-20 at the rate I'm using it). Takes a bit of practice, but it's not impossible. I would be interested to see the "ICK" in action - might be easier since there is no danger of over-wetting anything! I've been using both the Eclipse/PecPad and the ICK1. The ICK1 is a lot easier to use, and makes you confident of not damaging anything. The wet approach could be the only successful solution in case of oily stains or halos, such as fingerprints. I keep my Eclipse/PecPad kit ready in the cabinet, just in case... Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Re: Pentax sensor cleaning kit On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:42 AM, eckinator wrote: look for Pentax ICK-1 See, this is were Pentax gets a bad rap.:-) I dunno, I'm all for descriptive names My K-7 seemed to pick up some spray while I was changing lenses at a rapids I was photographing really early on in the trip. I have my work cut out for me with spotting my water shots. I must make a trip to the pusher today to see what they have for wet cleaners. I suppose after 6 years of using DSLR cameras it's about time I wet cleaned a sensor. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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true, true... Ick 1 really does sound like a corny 90s rapper name... I bet Vanilla Izzice and him were kicking some sick shizzle... 2009/9/18 David J Brooks : > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:42 AM, eckinator wrote: > look for Pentax ICK-1 > > > See, this is were Pentax gets a bad rap.:-) > > Dave >> Ecke >> >> 2009/9/18 Christine Aguila : >>> Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor cleaning kit today on the Pentax >>> web site & couldn't find it. I also checked B & H and Amazon. Where did >>> you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). Cheers, Christine >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" >>> >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM >>> Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit >>> >>> >>>> My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D >>>> sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the >>>> instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A >>>> subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor >>>> cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time >>>> in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt >>>> that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe >>>> and >>>> easy alternative. >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:42 AM, eckinator wrote: look for Pentax ICK-1 See, this is were Pentax gets a bad rap.:-) Dave > Ecke > > 2009/9/18 Christine Aguila : >> Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor cleaning kit today on the Pentax >> web site & couldn't find it. I also checked B & H and Amazon. Where did >> you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). Cheers, Christine >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" >> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM >> Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit >> >> >>> My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D >>> sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the >>> instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A >>> subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor >>> cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time >>> in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt >>> that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and >>> easy alternative. >>> Paul >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 18, 2009, at 9:45, John Graves wrote: It seems that the Pentax kit is sold out, at least those under $60. But here is an interesting web site I found in my search. http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/ Based on what the sites says, I would tend to buy a package of Pec Pads and a bottle of Eclipse E2 fluid. Has anyone had any experience with any of the other than Pentax kits? So far I have been able to blow the few dust bits off the sensor. I am also sure my day will come. I've been using the "Pec Pads" and E2 with fair success. The new "E2" fluid is a lot less volatile than the E1 fluid - takes a long time to evaporate, which can be a bit unnerving. It works fine. I paid $45 or so for the kit and it's lasted me a few years already (and should last another 10-20 at the rate I'm using it). Takes a bit of practice, but it's not impossible. I would be interested to see the "ICK" in action - might be easier since there is no danger of over-wetting anything! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It seems that the Pentax kit is sold out, at least those under $60. But here is an interesting web site I found in my search. http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/ Based on what the sites says, I would tend to buy a package of Pec Pads and a bottle of Eclipse E2 fluid. Has anyone had any experience with any of the other than Pentax kits? So far I have been able to blow the few dust bits off the sensor. I am also sure my day will come. John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net eckinator wrote: Got mine on amazon - look for Pentax ICK-1 Cheers Ecke 2009/9/18 Christine Aguila : Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor cleaning kit today on the Pentax web site & couldn't find it. I also checked B & H and Amazon. Where did you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and easy alternative. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.105/2380 - Release Date: 09/18/09 07:49:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This was my source, also. Ordered a kit yesterday based on your (Paul's) reaction to having used it. Jack --- On Fri, 9/18/09, paul stenquist wrote: > From: paul stenquist > Subject: Re: Pentax sensor cleaning kit > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 5:34 AM > > On Sep 18, 2009, at 12:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: > > > Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor > cleaning kit today on the Pentax web site & couldn't > find it. I also checked B & H and Amazon. > Where did you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). > Cheers, Christine > > > Hi Christine, > I finally found it at opticsplanet.com: > http://www.opticsplanet.net/pentax-image-sensor-cleaning-kit-o-ick1.html > > Best, > Paul > > > > - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" > > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM > > Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit > > > > > >> My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had > a black spec on my K7D sensor that couldn't be > dislodged with my ear blower. I read the instructions and > dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A subsequent > test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax > sensor cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. > This was the first time in about five years of shooting with > digital SLRs that I experienced dirt that the ear blower > couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and > easy alternative. > >> Paul > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 18, 2009, at 12:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor cleaning kit today on the Pentax web site & couldn't find it. I also checked B & H and Amazon. Where did you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). Cheers, Christine Hi Christine, I finally found it at opticsplanet.com: http://www.opticsplanet.net/pentax-image-sensor-cleaning-kit-o-ick1.html Best, Paul - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and easy alternative. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Got mine on amazon - look for Pentax ICK-1 Cheers Ecke 2009/9/18 Christine Aguila : > Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor cleaning kit today on the Pentax > web site & couldn't find it. I also checked B & H and Amazon. Where did > you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). Cheers, Christine > > > - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM > Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit > > >> My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D >> sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the >> instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A >> subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor >> cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time >> in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt >> that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and >> easy alternative. >> Paul >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Paul: I tried to find the Pentax sensor cleaning kit today on the Pentax web site & couldn't find it. I also checked B & H and Amazon. Where did you get yours? I'm stumped here :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Pentax sensor cleaning kit My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and easy alternative. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 7, 2009, at 9:45 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/7/2009 5:44:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tb...@textuality.com writes: We prime-lens victims are subject to serial sensor smut following on unsafe glass interchange in really unsuitable conditions. -Tim = Mark! I just like that sentence, it sounds sort of, uhm, dirty or something. Marnie aka Doe :-) In an academic, leather patches on the elbows sort on a way... (It's all that pipe smoke collecting on the sensor) Cheers Beaker -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I bought mine online. Around $40 + S&H. Here is one example http://cgi.ebay.com/OFFICIAL-Pentax-O-ICK1-image-sensor-cleaning-kit_W0QQitemZ390027132040 Regards, Bertil 10 sep 2009 kl. 18:03 skrev pdml-requ...@pdml.net: Thanks for the report. Maybe i'll look into one. I'll have to see if any one up here sells them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for the report. Maybe i'll look into one. I'll have to see if any one up here sells them. Dave On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:49 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D > sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the > instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A > subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor > cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time > in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt > that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and > easy alternative. > Paul > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My Pentax sensor cleaning kit arrived today. I had a black spec on my K7D sensor that couldn't be dislodged with my ear blower. I read the instructions and dabbed away at the sensor with the Pentax tool. A subsequent test showed the sensor to be perfectly clean. The Pentax sensor cleaner seems to be an effective easy to use tool. This was the first time in about five years of shooting with digital SLRs that I experienced dirt that the ear blower couldn't dislodge. Good to know there's another safe and easy alternative. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > We prime-lens victims are subject to serial sensor smut following on > unsafe glass interchange in really unsuitable conditions. -Tim > You know, i was always suprised at how clean my cameras were after all those horse shows i have done over the years. No really bad, stuck on dust bunnies, and most could be removed with a blower. Dave > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Paul Stenquist After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Taking it to a trusted, reliable camera service guy? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 9/7/2009 5:44:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tb...@textuality.com writes: We prime-lens victims are subject to serial sensor smut following on unsafe glass interchange in really unsuitable conditions. -Tim = Mark! I just like that sentence, it sounds sort of, uhm, dirty or something. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt > that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of > my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But > it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected > and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. > > What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat > idiot proof. A blower's good. But the K20 & thus I assume the 7 too has a thing in the menus where you can vibrate the sensors, and that's done the trick a few times for me. Failing that, you use the other thing in the menus to tell you exactly where the dust is. I bought a pack of pre-sealed pre-moistened swabs-on-a-stick from "Visible Dust" and you just can't miss with them. The package of 20 or so was kind of pricey, but it's lasted a couple of years. We prime-lens victims are subject to serial sensor smut following on unsafe glass interchange in really unsuitable conditions. -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 9/7/2009 8:06:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Paul = Visible Dust Brush. I've never been able to screw it up which is a pretty darn good recommendation. They are also cheaper now, apparently. One brush has taken me through several cameras also, those with the same size sensors. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for all the responses. The Pentax kit was out of stock from many vendors, but I found one at opticplanet.com and ordered one Paul On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: It's not supposed to do that, and it has never given less than perfect results over the years. I've used it a couple times on my K10D, 3-4 times on my K20D (that camera has seen very rough use) and it always brought the dirt away, without adding none. Both Dust Alert and my pictures show that. Apparently, some Pentax items work. Dario - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: Re: sensor cleaning kit I'd be a bit worried about leaving some sticky goo on the sensor. Dave On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Dario Bonazza> wrote: Pentax Imagesensor cleaning kit ICK-1 has worked flawlessly several times for me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLDwbR3V54 Dario - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: sensor cleaning kit After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It's not supposed to do that, and it has never given less than perfect results over the years. I've used it a couple times on my K10D, 3-4 times on my K20D (that camera has seen very rough use) and it always brought the dirt away, without adding none. Both Dust Alert and my pictures show that. Apparently, some Pentax items work. Dario - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: Re: sensor cleaning kit I'd be a bit worried about leaving some sticky goo on the sensor. Dave On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Pentax Imagesensor cleaning kit ICK-1 has worked flawlessly several times for me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLDwbR3V54 Dario - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: sensor cleaning kit After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have the pentax ick1 kit for things like that. Never used it (yet). It looks like the most idiot proof device for me. And pentax recommends it. Toine 2009/9/7 Paul Stenquist : > After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt > that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of > my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But > it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected > and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. > > What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat > idiot proof. > > Paul > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:24 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > taking it to a camera repair shop and ponying up $40 :-) > > ann - no dirt no more on her sensnor - san I have always taken my Nikons to their repair shop in Mississauga to clean them. My Pentax cameras have been in for repair enough times they clean them up with out asking. Dave, the coward, Brooks > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt >> that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of >> my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But >> it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected >> and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. >> >> What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat >> idiot proof. >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'd be a bit worried about leaving some sticky goo on the sensor. Dave On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: > Pentax Imagesensor cleaning kit ICK-1 has worked flawlessly several times > for me. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLDwbR3V54 > Dario > > > - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:06 PM > Subject: sensor cleaning kit > > >> After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt >> that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of >> my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But >> it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected >> and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. >> >> What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat >> idiot proof. >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I use: - blower - SensorKlear from Lenspen (http://www.lenspen.com/?cPath=&products_id=SK-1&tpid=146) Michel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Paul As ever, you have to decide for yourself what is safe to use, but In the following order I use: 1 Blower (no brush)- a large rubber bulb thing 2 Visible dust brush - an expensive mistake which, in my experience, has never removed anything that the blower failed to dislodge. 3 A sensor swipe from Copper Hill. This is a plastic swab which you cover with a lint free PecPad and lubricate with Eclipse cleaning fluid. This has worked without fail (and without mishap) for me. There's a really good tutorial on their site. http://www.copperhillimages.com/ As I recall, they couldn't ship the Eclipse fluid overseas so I bought the rest of the kit from them and sourced the Eclipse locally. Of course, there is always risk when using something that touches the sensor but, providing the guidelines for cleanliness and usage are followed rigorously, my experience gives me the confidence to continue using it. I've only had to use the Sensor Swipe half a dozen times in 5 or 6 years. (*isd D and K10D). I've yet to use it on the K7 but won't have any qualms when I have to. Hope this helps Chris > > From: Paul Stenquist > Date: 2009/09/07 Mon PM 03:06:20 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: sensor cleaning kit > > After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of > dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the > middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my > naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the > aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. > > What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's > somewhat idiot proof. > > Paul > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net http://www.fatfreddyscat.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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For me the nearest camera shop is about 45min and 30miles away, and I'm not sure I'd trust them for repair work... ann sanfedele wrote: taking it to a camera repair shop and ponying up $40 :-) ann - no dirt no more on her sensnor - san Paul Stenquist wrote: After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think Pentax makes/sells, (and similar devices are available from other sources), a sticky pad on a stick that doesn't require undue skill. It doesn't sound like you need a full cleaning, just a spot touch up. Paul Stenquist wrote: After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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taking it to a camera repair shop and ponying up $40 :-) ann - no dirt no more on her sensnor - san Paul Stenquist wrote: After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:06:20AM -0400, Paul Stenquist scripsit: > After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt > that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle > of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. > But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture > selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. > > What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat > idiot proof. I've had some success with a combination of a "digiswab" -- looks like a tiny squeegee -- and what they call "Ultrapure Optic Cleaning Fluid" and which is almost certainly 70%+ pure methyl alcohol, both from an outfit called American Recorder. Works well for crud on the mirror, too. (I was slow; it took me a couple outings to figure out the "face downwind when changing lenses" rule.) One puts two drops of fluid on the swab and makes two passes, flipping the swab and reversing direction between the passes. I've had to do this twice now, and my K20D has apparently avoided all harm both times. First time the drops were too big and I wound up drying the cover glass with a second, dry, swab, so the process must be at least slightly forgiving. Price is kinda piratical -- 6 swabs is 20 bucks Canadian -- but I don't suppose it's an item that sees frequent use. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pentax Imagesensor cleaning kit ICK-1 has worked flawlessly several times for me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLDwbR3V54 Dario - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: sensor cleaning kit After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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After five years of digital, I have finally encountered a piece of dirt that my ear blower won't dislodge. It's a small black spec in the middle of my K7D sensor, invisible to the naked eye -- at least to my naked eye. But it's definitely dirt, because it's size varies with the aperture selected and it shows up on the dust alert test as a small dot. What's the best cleaning tool available? Preferably one that's somewhat idiot proof. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:14 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > Bob, Gray, Bob, Mike, Joe > > thanks! > > I found the manual :-) yes, thre are instructions... pretty much what you > guys said to do... but I couldn't find my > blower... (I like to blame the cat for the disappearance of things like > that) ... however as it happens > I have a nice unused turkey baster ... > I have, in fact, two unused turkey basters because a friend had gotten them > to use as knitting needles > for a larger project and then gave up... she gave them to me knowing Just make sure they ARE clean. Give em a blast or two to check. Get close, but with those i would not get to close, you don't want to touch the filter. Worth a try. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob, Gray, Bob, Mike, Joe thanks! I found the manual :-)yes, thre are instructions... pretty much what you guys said to do... but I couldn't find my blower... (I like to blame the cat for the disappearance of things like that) ... however as it happens I have a nice unused turkey baster ... I have, in fact, two unused turkey basters because a friend had gotten them to use as knitting needles for a larger project and then gave up... she gave them to me knowing I would likely know what they were for. I'm pretty sure I can do the sensor cleaning myself... of course, the index in the manual doesn't list that under "sensor" but "cleaning" ... The key thing in the canon manual seemes to be that the camera has a nice fresh battery in it and the camera has to be turned on to clean it. details at 11 ann Bob W wrote: Ann, The sensor is right where the film would be. Look in the operating manual for sensor cleaning. Pentax has a special mode that is like putting the camera in bulb mode. It flips the mirror up and opens the shutter until you close it. Then you can try a big blower to puff on the sensor and blow the dust off. Otherwise, visit the repairman or get a cleaning kit on ebay. Regards, Bob S. It's important to hold the camera so that the plane of the sensor is facing the ground, and blow upwards at it so that the dust falls out of the camera, not back into it. You may have to have 2 or 3 goes at it. Earlier this evening I cleaned the sensor of my Leica this way, then took a shot of clear blue sky to see if any evil spirits remained. I had to do this about 3 times until I was reasonably confident that the exorcism had been successful. The most popular blower thing is called Giotto Super Rocket-Air, and looks like a turkey baster, among other things. http://www.giottos.com/Rocket-air.htm When French customs inspected my bag a few months ago the lady who found it in there was deeply suspicious of it. I explained that it was for blowing into cameras*, and she went off to check with a male colleague. You know what these French are like - I think her mind was drifting in the personal enema direction... Bob *actually, I may have told her it was for making souffles in cameras. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
