Re: Look what Windows gave me as my Lock Screen today!

[Larry Colen]

Shagadellic!

One of the Windows lock screens is a photo of Thor's well in Oregon that looks 
similar enough to some of mine that every time I see it I wonder what one of my 
photos is doing on that computer.

> On Oct 3, 2023, at 8:37 PM, John Francis  wrote:
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> http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/LockScreen.jpg
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Re: What Adobe product?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Jul 2, 2023, at 1:03 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 'm most impressed with RAW Power used in conjunction with Photos … I could 
>> actually make that my only image management system for macOS, iOS, and 
>> iPadOS, and dispense with the Adobe, Affinity, and Snapseed software 
>> entirely. There's no real issue with doing that, just a bit of work to 
>> re-organize my photographic storage and learn fully the use of Photos and 
>> RAW Power, but the cost of the Adobe and other software is low enough that 
>> I've been too lazy to be bothered doing that thus far. :) …  It is, however, 
>> a good alternative app suite for my needs, should I decide to go that way.
> 
> I’m gonna go with the Lightroom Classic option, at least for the time being. 
> But curious, could you manage your older images Photos with Raw power? Would 
> you lose your processing?


That depends upon your organization and workflow, and what you mean. 

For my organization and workflow with Lightroom (now Lightroom Classic), the 
answer is yes: I could manage all my older photographs with Photos and RAW 
Power easily and not lose any of my finished image processing/rendering work. 
Note the specification of "finished" in that statement… 

This is because, from the very beginning when I started using Lightroom, I 
realized that a parametric editing system was an interpretive, live process … 
the *instructions* on what to do to an original image file is what the LR 
Catalog contains, the original image file is unchanged, so  when LR displays an 
image, it is reading the original image and interpreting it in a display 
preview according to the rendering parameters that you've set. If you open the 
original file with any other application or viewer, those instructions are not 
there and only the original file will be displayed. 

So my workflow rule is that when I reach a point where I consider a rendered 
photograph finished, I export it to a *new* file in a *separate* directory tree 
structure. This "bakes" editing parameters into the pixel values and writes any 
IPTC annotation in the individual files' metadata. Those exported files can be 
opened with any image viewer allowing you to see the results of your work. 

I maintain, then, two LR catalogs: 

- In Progress :: this catalog is what I import original image files with, do my 
rendering work, IPTC annotation, et cetera. 

- Completed Work :: this catalog contains ONLY finished work, no original image 
files, from a separate directory tree of finished work rather than original 
imports. 

To switch to using Photos and RAW Power as my tools, I would create two Photos 
libraries, paralleling the two LR catalogs. One library, the default one, would 
be used the same way "In Progress" is used currently in LR Classic, along with 
RAW Power to do rendering work. 

The other library would contain ONLY the directory tree of finished, rendered 
image files just as the "Completed Work" LR catalog does, and I would use only 
the image management and organizational tools in Photo since this library is 
not intended for image rendering at all; it's a tool for organizing, finding, 
and using the finished photographs outside of the editing/rendering domain. 

In doing such a changeover of tools, I would lose only un-finished editing work 
in the In Progress LR catalog, which I'm perfectly happy to do since if 
something is unfinished it means I haven't done any significant work on it 
anyway. Of course, I would take steps to ensure that all of the IPTC annotation 
data for any unfinished work was saved to disk either in xmp sidecar files or 
embedded into DNG, JPEG, and TIFF files before transitioning to Photos … that 
preserves whatever minimal work I'd done on the original image files (usually 
on-import keywording, identification, location, etc) that I would not want to 
lose. 

All of that data is already embedded in each of the finished photograph files, 
so that library would not require any prep to the "Completed Work" LR catalog's 
files at all. 

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Re: What Adobe product?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Jul 2, 2023, at 1:03 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 'm most impressed with RAW Power used in conjunction with Photos … I could 
>> actually make that my only image management system for macOS, iOS, and 
>> iPadOS, and dispense with the Adobe, Affinity, and Snapseed software 
>> entirely. There's no real issue with doing that, just a bit of work to 
>> re-organize my photographic storage and learn fully the use of Photos and 
>> RAW Power, but the cost of the Adobe and other software is low enough that 
>> I've been too lazy to be bothered doing that thus far. :) …  It is, however, 
>> a good alternative app suite for my needs, should I decide to go that way.
> 
> I’m gonna go with the Lightroom Classic option, at least for the time being. 
> But curious, could you manage your older images Photos with Raw power? Would 
> you lose your processing?


That depends upon your organization and workflow, and what you mean. 

For my organization and workflow with Lightroom (now Lightroom Classic), the 
answer is yes: I could manage all my older photographs with Photos and RAW 
Power easily and not lose any of my finished image processing/rendering work. 
Note the specification of "finished" in that statement… 

This is because, from the very beginning when I started using Lightroom, I 
realized that a parametric editing system was an interpretive, live process … 
the *instructions* on what to do to an original image file is what the LR 
Catalog contains, the original image file is unchanged, so  when LR displays an 
image, it is reading the original image and interpreting it in a display 
preview according to the rendering parameters that you've set. If you open the 
original file with any other application or viewer, those instructions are not 
there and only the original file will be displayed. 

So my workflow rule is that when I reach a point where I consider a rendered 
photograph finished, I export it to a *new* file in a *separate* directory tree 
structure. This "bakes" editing parameters into the pixel values and writes any 
IPTC annotation in the individual files' metadata. Those exported files can be 
opened with any image viewer allowing you to see the results of your work. 

I maintain, then, two LR catalogs: 

- In Progress :: this catalog is what I import original image files with, do my 
rendering work, IPTC annotation, et cetera. 

- Completed Work :: this catalog contains ONLY finished work, no original image 
files, from a separate directory tree of finished work rather than original 
imports. 

To switch to using Photos and RAW Power as my tools, I would create two Photos 
libraries, paralleling the two LR catalogs. One library, the default one, would 
be used the same way "In Progress" is used currently in LR Classic, along with 
RAW Power to do rendering work. 

The other library would contain ONLY the directory tree of finished, rendered 
image files just as the "Completed Work" LR catalog does, and I would use only 
the image management and organizational tools in Photo since this library is 
not intended for image rendering at all; it's a tool for organizing, finding, 
and using the finished photographs outside of the editing/rendering domain. 

In doing such a changeover of tools, I would lose only un-finished editing work 
in the In Progress LR catalog, which I'm perfectly happy to do since if 
something is unfinished it means I haven't done any significant work on it 
anyway. Of course, I would take steps to ensure that all of the IPTC annotation 
data for any unfinished work was saved to disk either in xmp sidecar files or 
embedded into DNG, JPEG, and TIFF files before transitioning to Photos … that 
preserves whatever minimal work I'd done on the original image files (usually 
on-import keywording, identification, location, etc) that I would not want to 
lose. 

All of that data is already embedded in each of the finished photograph files, 
so that library would not require any prep to the "Completed Work" LR catalog's 
files at all. 

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Re: What Adobe product?

[Eric Weir]

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 'm most impressed with RAW Power used in conjunction with Photos … I could 
> actually make that my only image management system for macOS, iOS, and 
> iPadOS, and dispense with the Adobe, Affinity, and Snapseed software 
> entirely. There's no real issue with doing that, just a bit of work to 
> re-organize my photographic storage and learn fully the use of Photos and RAW 
> Power, but the cost of the Adobe and other software is low enough that I've 
> been too lazy to be bothered doing that thus far. :) …  It is, however, a 
> good alternative app suite for my needs, should I decide to go that way.

I’m gonna go with the Lightroom Classic option, at least for the time being. 
But curious, could you manage your older images Photos with Raw power? Would 
you loose your processing?

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Re: What Adobe product?

[Comcast]

The I-phone editing software on recent models is excellent, better than 
Elements.

Paul

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 3:15 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t do much post-processing. 
> 
> I don’t either. The minor tweaking I do to get Images that are a bit more 
> vibrant that what the iPhone cameral produces. Realistically could be 
> dispensed with. I do frequently want to crop images, though.
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Re: What Adobe product?

[Eric Weir]

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> I don’t do much post-processing. 

I don’t either. The minor tweaking I do to get Images that are a bit more 
vibrant that what the iPhone cameral produces. Realistically could be dispensed 
with. I do frequently want to crop images, though.

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Re: What Adobe product?

[Eric Weir]

First, thanks to everyone who responded. All very helpful.

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> - Photos is pervasive throughout Apple's OS ecology, provides excellent image 
> management capabilities, and RAW Power is a companion app that gives much 
> greater access to user control of Apple's image management underlying 
> frameworks. It's also available on all Apple OS platforms. 
> 
> I'm most impressed with RAW Power used in conjunction with Photos … I could 
> actually make that my only image management system for macOS, iOS, and 
> iPadOS, and dispense with the Adobe, Affinity, and Snapseed software 
> entirely. There's no real issue with doing that, just a bit of work to 
> re-organize my photographic storage and learn fully the use of Photos and RAW 
> Power, but the cost of the Adobe and other software is low enough that I've 
> been too lazy to be bothered doing that thus far. :) …  It is, however, a 
> good alternative app suite for my needs, should I decide to go that way.

That said, this almost convinces me to go with Photos, which I have been using 
exclusively in processing my iPhone photos. And I will continue to do so going 
forward, at least for my iPhone photos, and possibly even with photos created 
with a camera. (I still have two, both Fuji, And I’m tempted by the X-E4, for 
which I have one excellent lens.) 

But I still have tons of photos—well, not tons compared to you guys 浪—that have 
been processed and organized with Lightroom. I would want local storage, which 
means the Classic bundle, though it’s very unlikely that I’d use anything but 
Lightroom. But I believe it is $20  month.

Again, thanks to everyone who responded.

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Re: What Adobe product?

[Eric Weir]

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> 'healed' Adobe user

What do you use, Ralf? 

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Re: What Adobe product?

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 10.06.23 um 16:21 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi:


Photoshop Elements is a simplified, reduced feature version of Photoshop.


AFAIR it's 8 bit only per channel. Makes for impressive banding in the
sky and histograms that look like a picket fence.

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Re: What Adobe product?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Oh yes: 

On my mobile devices (iPhone and iPad), I use Snapseed, Affinity Photo, and 
Photos supplemented by RAW Power for image management and rendering. 

- Snapseed is great because it's very easy to learn and use.

- Affinity Photo is a Photoshop replacement. It has versions to run on macOS, 
iOS, and iPadOS, and it handles things that Snapseed cannot. I use it primarily 
to handle edge cases that Snapseed cannot (like Leica M10 Monochrom and 
Hasselblad raw files). 

- Photos is pervasive throughout Apple's OS ecology, provides excellent image 
management capabilities, and RAW Power is a companion app that gives much 
greater access to user control of Apple's image management underlying 
frameworks. It's also available on all Apple OS platforms. 

I'm most impressed with RAW Power used in conjunction with Photos … I could 
actually make that my only image management system for macOS, iOS, and iPadOS, 
and dispense with the Adobe, Affinity, and Snapseed software entirely. There's 
no real issue with doing that, just a bit of work to re-organize my 
photographic storage and learn fully the use of Photos and RAW Power, but the 
cost of the Adobe and other software is low enough that I've been too lazy to 
be bothered doing that thus far. :) …  It is, however, a good alternative app 
suite for my needs, should I decide to go that way.

G


> On Jun 10, 2023, at 7:21 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> If you've been using an older version of Lightroom for your rendering work,  
> the current offering is Lightroom Classic for the same workflow and image 
> storage (local storage centric) features. Lightroom and Lightroom Mobile use 
> a cloud-based storage mechanism as primary. I don't use Adobe's cloud at all, 
> so I've never used them. 
> 
> Before Lightroom, I used Photoshop for all my rendering work. Since LR came 
> out, I've used it less and less to the point where I have not even installed 
> it on my system for at least eight or nine years. 
> 
> Photoshop Elements is a simplified, reduced feature version of Photoshop. 
> I've never used it; I tried it once and found the 'simplified' user interface 
> very off-putting. It is a standalone app and, for me, irrelevant.
> 
> The photographer's bundle of Lightoom and Photoshop for $10 per month (with 
> NO cloud storage addendum) includes access to both LR and LR Classic, 
> Photoshop, Bridge, Premiere Rush, Character Animator, UXP Developer Tools, 
> and a beta Aero apps. I pay for this subscription but only install Lightroom 
> Classic. Given how much I use it, $10/month is a reasonable deal for that. I 
> guess I could install Photoshop if I felt I really needed it, but that hasn't 
> happened. 
> 
> I've been on this subscription since the beginning of 2019 and it has worked 
> well and consistently, overall, and it keeps up to date with new features and 
> developments at no additional charge. 
> 
> G
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 5:58 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’m going to be upgrading to a new Mac, silicon not Intel. I own a copy of 
>> Lightroom.I will need to upgrade. Sticking to Adobe there are three options: 
>> Elements, Lightroom, and Lightroom Classic. I have never used Photoshop. 
>> Don’t see myself using it down the road. Would Lightroom, i.e., without with 
>> Photoshop be equivalent to the copy of Lightroom that I own and itself 
>> probably has more power features that I need/will use? What about Elements?
>> 
>> My photography for some time now has been iPhone photography. I’ve 
>> considered just relying on Apple’s Photos app for editing. But with ought 
>> Lightroom I assume I’d lose access to the catalogue of photos that have been 
>> edited and managed with Lightroom.
>> 
>> Interested in experience and thoughts of others that would help me decide.
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Re: What Adobe product?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

If you've been using an older version of Lightroom for your rendering work,  
the current offering is Lightroom Classic for the same workflow and image 
storage (local storage centric) features. Lightroom and Lightroom Mobile use a 
cloud-based storage mechanism as primary. I don't use Adobe's cloud at all, so 
I've never used them. 

Before Lightroom, I used Photoshop for all my rendering work. Since LR came 
out, I've used it less and less to the point where I have not even installed it 
on my system for at least eight or nine years. 

Photoshop Elements is a simplified, reduced feature version of Photoshop. I've 
never used it; I tried it once and found the 'simplified' user interface very 
off-putting. It is a standalone app and, for me, irrelevant.

The photographer's bundle of Lightoom and Photoshop for $10 per month (with NO 
cloud storage addendum) includes access to both LR and LR Classic, Photoshop, 
Bridge, Premiere Rush, Character Animator, UXP Developer Tools, and a beta Aero 
apps. I pay for this subscription but only install Lightroom Classic. Given how 
much I use it, $10/month is a reasonable deal for that. I guess I could install 
Photoshop if I felt I really needed it, but that hasn't happened. 

I've been on this subscription since the beginning of 2019 and it has worked 
well and consistently, overall, and it keeps up to date with new features and 
developments at no additional charge. 

G

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 5:58 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m going to be upgrading to a new Mac, silicon not Intel. I own a copy of 
> Lightroom.I will need to upgrade. Sticking to Adobe there are three options: 
> Elements, Lightroom, and Lightroom Classic. I have never used Photoshop. 
> Don’t see myself using it down the road. Would Lightroom, i.e., without with 
> Photoshop be equivalent to the copy of Lightroom that I own and itself 
> probably has more power features that I need/will use? What about Elements?
> 
> My photography for some time now has been iPhone photography. I’ve considered 
> just relying on Apple’s Photos app for editing. But with ought Lightroom I 
> assume I’d lose access to the catalogue of photos that have been edited and 
> managed with Lightroom.
> 
> Interested in experience and thoughts of others that would help me decide.
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Re: What Adobe product?

[Bob W PDML]

I use Lightroom almost exclusively on my iPhone and iPad. I also have it, and 
a copy of LR Classic, on my Mac mini, but rarely use it on that. However, I 
don’t do much post-processing. 

You could subscribe and try them all for no extra cost, then cancel the 
subscription if you don’t like it.

> On 10 Jun 2023, at 13:58, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m going to be upgrading to a new Mac, silicon not Intel. I own a copy of 
> Lightroom.I will need to upgrade. Sticking to Adobe there are three options: 
> Elements, Lightroom, and Lightroom Classic. I have never used Photoshop. 
> Don’t see myself using it down the road. Would Lightroom, i.e., without with 
> Photoshop be equivalent to the copy of Lightroom that I own and itself 
> probably has more power features that I need/will use? What about Elements?
> 
> My photography for some time now has been iPhone photography. I’ve considered 
> just relying on Apple’s Photos app for editing. But with ought Lightroom I 
> assume I’d lose access to the catalogue of photos that have been edited and 
> managed with Lightroom.
> 
> Interested in experience and thoughts of others that would help me decide.
> 
> thanks,
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> 
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What Adobe product?

[Eric Weir]

I’m going to be upgrading to a new Mac, silicon not Intel. I own a copy of 
Lightroom.I will need to upgrade. Sticking to Adobe there are three options: 
Elements, Lightroom, and Lightroom Classic. I have never used Photoshop. Don’t 
see myself using it down the road. Would Lightroom, i.e., without with 
Photoshop be equivalent to the copy of Lightroom that I own and itself probably 
has more power features that I need/will use? What about Elements?

My photography for some time now has been iPhone photography. I’ve considered 
just relying on Apple’s Photos app for editing. But with ought Lightroom I 
assume I’d lose access to the catalogue of photos that have been edited and 
managed with Lightroom.

Interested in experience and thoughts of others that would help me decide.

thanks,
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Subject: What made this so valuable?

[Bipin Gupta]

Hi Collin, I had the Pentax Spotmatic way back in 1978. Bought it 2nd hand
in Paris from a pretty Nurse returning back to the Philippines from Canada.
An excellent camera. Still have a few M42 Lenses.
But the Goodwill Price is extremely high, as you can get one from KEH for
much less.
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RE: What made this so valuable?

[jcoyle]

Probably the combination of a body in apparently excellent condition and a 
legendary lens.

John in Brisbane



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Re: OT: What is Art?

[Bill]

On 2/1/2023 12:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Following up on the recent discussion here about what is "art,' there is
an  interesting case between Hermes and and an NFT artist over whether
using Hermes bags in an NFT violates the trademark rights of Hermes or is a
free-standing work of art, (consisting entirely of images of Birkin purses).

https://observer.com/2023/01/hermes-is-going-to-court-over-metabirkin-nfts-in-a-landmark-trademark-case/

It appears art in the NFT age is becoming whatever one can rip off. Note 
the NFT trading cards put out recently by a failed reality TV star that 
consisted almost entirely of stolen images.


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OT: What is Art?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Following up on the recent discussion here about what is "art,' there is
an  interesting case between Hermes and and an NFT artist over whether
using Hermes bags in an NFT violates the trademark rights of Hermes or is a
free-standing work of art, (consisting entirely of images of Birkin purses).

https://observer.com/2023/01/hermes-is-going-to-court-over-metabirkin-nfts-in-a-landmark-trademark-case/
?

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Re: Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[collinb]

What \*don’t\* you have?

JC OConnell wrote:

> since I already have nearly a complete set of "K" primes
> my recent acqusition of of thr K1 was the final nail in the cofffin
> asfar as my pentax collection goes.
> jco
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[John Sessoms]

OTOH, if you already had a perpetual license version of either one of 
them, those still work. I've got CS6 Extended on my computer & that's 
what I use.


On 1/18/2023 9:39 AM, Bill wrote:

On 1/18/2023 7:36 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:

For the FA 43/1.8 ( I wish it were 1.0) do the lightroom lens 
profile corrections work well enough for you?
I find I’ll grab mine rather than my FA50/1.4 unless I need that 
extra bit of speed.

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I do bare minimum PS Elements work. Being just a bit old-fashioned, I 
depend on the optical design first.


Perhaps I should invest in decent PS/LR.
If your happy with Elements, stay with Elements. The full LR/PS suite is 
very powerful software and opens up some very nice features, but you 
will be on a rent to never own scenario to get it.
I've got no problem with it, though a lot of people don't like that 
business model.


bill
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Bill]

On 1/18/2023 7:36 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


For the FA 43/1.8 ( I wish it were 1.0) do the lightroom lens profile 
corrections work well enough for you?
I find I’ll grab mine rather than my FA50/1.4 unless I need that extra bit of 
speed.

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l...@red4est.com  sent from ret4est

I do bare minimum PS Elements work. Being just a bit old-fashioned, I depend on 
the optical design first.

Perhaps I should invest in decent PS/LR.
If your happy with Elements, stay with Elements. The full LR/PS suite is 
very powerful software and opens up some very nice features, but you 
will be on a rent to never own scenario to get it.
I've got no problem with it, though a lot of people don't like that 
business model.


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Re: Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[collinb]

Larry Colen wrote:

> > For the FA 43/1.8 ( I wish it were 1.0) do the lightroom lens profile 
> > corrections work well enough for you?
> > I find I’ll grab mine rather than my FA50/1.4 unless I need that extra bit 
> > of speed.
>
> \--
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> l...@red4est.com  sent from ret4est

I do bare minimum PS Elements work. Being just a bit old-fashioned, I depend on 
the optical design first.

Perhaps I should invest in decent PS/LR.

Collin
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Steve Cottrell]

Sadly, X2.

Pen F and OM-Dii

Cot


On 15 Jan 2023, at 19:41, Brian W  wrote:

Sadly, Pentax no longer makes the sort of gear that I'm interested in.
Olympus/OM System on the other hand...
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[JC OConnell]

since I already have nearly a complete set of "K" primes
my recent acqusition of of thr K1 was the final nail in the cofffin
asfar as my pentax collection goes.
jco
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Im actually content with my gear. I really like my K-5 and have no 
desire to buy a newer body.

I do wish that my 17-70 was weatherproof, or that my wifes 18-85 was 
wider at the short end. Oh, and that my 80-320 was sharper.

Rick

> On Jan 15, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>
> Which one ? ;-)
>
>
> On 15 Jan 2023, at 04:43, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it 
> barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 17, 2023, at 11:51 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
> For the …
> 
> 6x7, I’m staying with just one lens. The 67 165mm. Don’t really need another 
> there. Dreaming of a 67 M\* 300, but only dreaming.
> 
> K-1 II, I have the FA28/1.8, F50/1.7, and F\* 300/4.5. Might be nice to have 
> the FA24/2. Really mixed on LTD lenses. The 43/1.0 resolution is nice but the 
> pincushion always bothered me. Is there anything special in the 150mm range?

For the FA 43/1.8 ( I wish it were 1.0) do the lightroom lens profile 
corrections work well enough for you?
I find I’ll grab mine rather than my FA50/1.4 unless I need that extra bit of 
speed.

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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Bill]

The 150/3.5 is a sleeper.

Bill

On Tue., Jan. 17, 2023, 1:51 p.m. ,  wrote:

> For the …
>
> 6x7, I’m staying with just one lens. The 67 165mm. Don’t really need
> another there. Dreaming of a 67 M\* 300, but only dreaming.
>
> K-1 II, I have the FA28/1.8, F50/1.7, and F\* 300/4.5. Might be nice to
> have the FA24/2. Really mixed on LTD lenses. The 43/1.0 resolution is nice
> but the pincushion always bothered me. Is there anything special in the
> 150mm range?
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[collinb]

For the …

6x7, I’m staying with just one lens. The 67 165mm. Don’t really need another 
there. Dreaming of a 67 M\* 300, but only dreaming.

K-1 II, I have the FA28/1.8, F50/1.7, and F\* 300/4.5. Might be nice to have 
the FA24/2. Really mixed on LTD lenses. The 43/1.0 resolution is nice but the 
pincushion always bothered me. Is there anything special in the 150mm range?
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 16, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> 
> Shop, shop, shop; GAS, gas, gas ( gear acquisition syndrome).
> We have all been conditioned to cajole our Idiot Boxes into telling us to
> get new Cameras and Lenses every 4 to 5 years.
> Why? Perhaps because of technological reasons, sharper and better picture
> qualities etc.
> What did we have in our early Film SLR days? A camera that allowed you to
> play with the (3) Basics - Shutter Speed, Aperture Opening and the Film
> ISO. It was a luxury if you had a built in Light Meter, Focusing Aid,
> Double Exposure, Self Timer or some other Gimmicks.
> And we produced beautiful results.

Yeah, I've produced some beautiful results with an Argus C-3 and expired film.  
The camera doesn't affect the artistic quality of the photos that you can take, 
but the camera does affect what photos you can take.   Some of my best work is 
taken upwards of ISO 10,000, or hand holding down to 1/10 second.  


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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Bill]

On 1/16/2023 10:38 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Shop, shop, shop; GAS, gas, gas ( gear acquisition syndrome).
We have all been conditioned to cajole our Idiot Boxes into telling us to
get new Cameras and Lenses every 4 to 5 years.
Why? Perhaps because of technological reasons, sharper and better picture
qualities etc.
What did we have in our early Film SLR days? A camera that allowed you to
play with the (3) Basics - Shutter Speed, Aperture Opening and the Film
ISO. It was a luxury if you had a built in Light Meter, Focusing Aid,
Double Exposure, Self Timer or some other Gimmicks.
And we produced beautiful results.
God has Blessed us with enough resources to buy the latest Pentax DSLRs and
Lenses, but I have stuck to the Pentax K-5 IIs and some of the best AF
Lenses from Pentax, Tamron or Sigma - (11) in all. I have other systems as
well including Leica, but love my Pentax the most.
I will accept any challenge from any Kindred Soul with a Pentax K-1 Mk2 or
the latest K-3 Mk III.
Just my 2-cents, even though I agree - to each our own -  so go ahead and
ask yourselves or your friend "What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or
wish) list"?
Bipin in Thornhill Ontario.

I respect your opinion, but please respect that some of us have moved on 
from 1973.


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What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Bipin Gupta]

Shop, shop, shop; GAS, gas, gas ( gear acquisition syndrome).
We have all been conditioned to cajole our Idiot Boxes into telling us to
get new Cameras and Lenses every 4 to 5 years.
Why? Perhaps because of technological reasons, sharper and better picture
qualities etc.
What did we have in our early Film SLR days? A camera that allowed you to
play with the (3) Basics - Shutter Speed, Aperture Opening and the Film
ISO. It was a luxury if you had a built in Light Meter, Focusing Aid,
Double Exposure, Self Timer or some other Gimmicks.
And we produced beautiful results.
God has Blessed us with enough resources to buy the latest Pentax DSLRs and
Lenses, but I have stuck to the Pentax K-5 IIs and some of the best AF
Lenses from Pentax, Tamron or Sigma - (11) in all. I have other systems as
well including Leica, but love my Pentax the most.
I will accept any challenge from any Kindred Soul with a Pentax K-1 Mk2 or
the latest K-3 Mk III.
Just my 2-cents, even though I agree - to each our own -  so go ahead and
ask yourselves or your friend "What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or
wish) list"?
Bipin in Thornhill Ontario.
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[John Sessoms]

I'd like to have a backup K-1 body. More than that I'd like more ability 
to actually get out and use my cameras. I've been kind of stuck inside 
(housebound) here for a while.



On 1/14/2023 11:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

It was recently observed that there is almost no discussion of Pentax gear, or 
even gear for your Pentax, on this list lately.

Let's get this kick started:  What gear is on your shopping list, or at least 
your wish list? Why do you want it?  Why haven't you bought it yet?

The two major pieces of kit on my "want" list, are the DFA 24-70/2.8, and the 
K-3 III.

Over the past couple of weeks, I've kind of wanted a weather sealed, "fast", 
daily driver lens.  I already have a Tamron 28-70/2.8 and the DFA 28-105/3.5-5.6 which is 
WR.  So I do have weather sealed in that range, and I do have a f/2.8 lens in that range. 
 I also have the 16-50/2.8 which works just fine on my K-3.  So, I already have the 
lenses that pretty much surround that specific bit of functionality.

As to the K-3 III, what I really want would be a K-1 III, a K-1 with all of the 
nifty features they've added to the K-3 III (though I don't really need the 
fancy pentaprism for the larger field of view, because it's already bigger), 
plus a modern sensor.  The K-3 was released almost 7 years ago, I mostly use 
mine these days when I either want a wide angle of view, with a fast lens, or 
when I need the best sensor performance available to me in challenging light.  
I would not be surprised if when you compared the final images, the K-3 III 
sensor outperformed the K-1.

Since a K-1 III isn't available, or even announced, there are a lot of things 
the K-3 III does better than my K-1, but I have barely had a chance to take any 
photos at all the past year, and I haven't really had any chance to photograph 
in conditions where I'm up against the performance limits of either of my 
Pentax camera bodies.  I have very little reason not to hold off on buying a 
K-3 III until either the price drops, or they sell a major upgrade to the K-1.

The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it 
barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.


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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Bill]

I'm still being tempted by the new DFA21mm Ltd. What's holding me back is
that I hardly ever use lenses that wide so my A20/2.8 fits my needs.

I would like to see DFA* versions of something in the 35mm range and 120 mm
range. A *35/1.4 and a *120/2 would both have me hitting the buy it now
button at my pusher's store. I find 135 to be longer than I like and
anything shorter, such as a 105 would be too close to the 85/1.4 to be
viable in Pentaxes somewhat small lineup. All that would happen is one lens
would pirate sales from the other.

I'm expecting to see an upgraded K1 announced later this year. I'm
expecting it will be somewhat of an upsized K3III with either a 45mp or
60mp sensor, and that is definitely on my wish list.

For now I'm buying a bigger camera bag.

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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Doug Brewer]

I shoot 100 percent of my studio work, and about 99 percent of location 
work, with Pentax. It's mostly the K1, with occasional K3 sightings, the 
bulk of the shots with either the FA50 1/4 or the old 77 Ltd. Other 
lenses like the FA35/2 and the FA20-35/4 ride along for use when 
circumstances demand, and I'm satisfied with the results.


That said, and given the question, I wouldn't mind finding the new issue 
43 1/9, as I sold off my old one when times were tight and I miss it.


I also miss the FA80-200/2.8, but I don't know if I'd go out of my way 
to get one. It might be best to leave that one in the fond memories drawer.



On 1/14/23 11:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

It was recently observed that there is almost no discussion of Pentax gear, or 
even gear for your Pentax, on this list lately.

Let's get this kick started:  What gear is on your shopping list, or at least 
your wish list? Why do you want it?  Why haven't you bought it yet?

The two major pieces of kit on my "want" list, are the DFA 24-70/2.8, and the 
K-3 III.

Over the past couple of weeks, I've kind of wanted a weather sealed, "fast", 
daily driver lens.  I already have a Tamron 28-70/2.8 and the DFA 28-105/3.5-5.6 which is 
WR.  So I do have weather sealed in that range, and I do have a f/2.8 lens in that range. 
 I also have the 16-50/2.8 which works just fine on my K-3.  So, I already have the 
lenses that pretty much surround that specific bit of functionality.

As to the K-3 III, what I really want would be a K-1 III, a K-1 with all of the 
nifty features they've added to the K-3 III (though I don't really need the 
fancy pentaprism for the larger field of view, because it's already bigger), 
plus a modern sensor.  The K-3 was released almost 7 years ago, I mostly use 
mine these days when I either want a wide angle of view, with a fast lens, or 
when I need the best sensor performance available to me in challenging light.  
I would not be surprised if when you compared the final images, the K-3 III 
sensor outperformed the K-1.

Since a K-1 III isn't available, or even announced, there are a lot of things 
the K-3 III does better than my K-1, but I have barely had a chance to take any 
photos at all the past year, and I haven't really had any chance to photograph 
in conditions where I'm up against the performance limits of either of my 
Pentax camera bodies.  I have very little reason not to hold off on buying a 
K-3 III until either the price drops, or they sell a major upgrade to the K-1.

The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it 
barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.


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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Similarly, it's been quite a few years since I worked with Pentax cameras. I do 
still have one Pentax lens … the L39 mount version of the superb 43mm Limited 
(SMC-Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special) which was and is my all-time favorite Pentax 
lens. I use it on my Leica cameras where it never fails to produce superb 
results. 

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And, in general, I have all the equipment I can possibly use … and more … so 
buying more camera equipment is something I only do very very occasionally 
these days, with a lot of thought beforehand. 

G

"Equipment is transitory. Photographs endure."


> On Jan 15, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> Sadly, Pentax no longer makes the sort of gear that I'm interested in.
> Olympus/OM System on the other hand...
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[Brian W]

Sadly, Pentax no longer makes the sort of gear that I'm interested in.
Olympus/OM System on the other hand...

Cheers
Brian

> On 15 January 2023 at 15:43 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> It was recently observed that there is almost no discussion of Pentax gear, or
> even gear for your Pentax, on this list lately.
> 
> Let's get this kick started:  What gear is on your shopping list, or at least
> your wish list? Why do you want it?  Why haven't you bought it yet?
> 
> The two major pieces of kit on my "want" list, are the DFA 24-70/2.8, and the
> K-3 III.
> 
> Over the past couple of weeks, I've kind of wanted a weather sealed, "fast",
> daily driver lens.  I already have a Tamron 28-70/2.8 and the DFA
> 28-105/3.5-5.6 which is WR.  So I do have weather sealed in that range, and I
> do have a f/2.8 lens in that range.  I also have the 16-50/2.8 which works
> just fine on my K-3.  So, I already have the lenses that pretty much surround
> that specific bit of functionality.
> 
> As to the K-3 III, what I really want would be a K-1 III, a K-1 with all of
> the nifty features they've added to the K-3 III (though I don't really need
> the fancy pentaprism for the larger field of view, because it's already
> bigger), plus a modern sensor.  The K-3 was released almost 7 years ago, I
> mostly use mine these days when I either want a wide angle of view, with a
> fast lens, or when I need the best sensor performance available to me in
> challenging light.  I would not be surprised if when you compared the final
> images, the K-3 III sensor outperformed the K-1.  
> 
> Since a K-1 III isn't available, or even announced, there are a lot of things
> the K-3 III does better than my K-1, but I have barely had a chance to take
> any photos at all the past year, and I haven't really had any chance to
> photograph in conditions where I'm up against the performance limits of either
> of my Pentax camera bodies.  I have very little reason not to hold off on
> buying a K-3 III until either the price drops, or they sell a major upgrade to
> the K-1.  
> 
> The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it
> barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.
> 
> 
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[Henk Terhell]

My preferred lens is the 55-300 PLM, that is very useful for butterflies
and dragonflies.
For this I had to buy the K-70.
The reasons are:
- my K-1 is losing too much resolution with this lens.
- I will never buy a K3-III while I use live view in many situations.
- KP not being available.
APSC is a suitable format for me.
In case there is no follow up with a new K3-III (having tilted screen!) in
time and there was a failure of my gear, I would switch to Fuji such as the
XT5.

Henk


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[Rick Womer]

I’m actually content with my gear. I really like my K-5 and have no desire to 
buy a newer body. 

I do wish that my 17-70 was weatherproof, or that my wife’s 18-85 was wider at 
the short end. Oh, and that my 80-320 was sharper.

Rick

> On Jan 15, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Which one ? ;-)
> 
> 
> On 15 Jan 2023, at 04:43, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it 
> barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.
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[Steve Cottrell]

Which one ? ;-)


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barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.
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Re: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Comcast]

The 24-70/2.8 is my most used “normal” lens. It’s a reliable workhorse and 
quite sharp even wide open. I too would like the K3-3, but at my age I can’t 
spend like I once did, so my K-3 and K-1 will suffice.

Paul

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 11:43 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> It was recently observed that there is almost no discussion of Pentax gear, 
> or even gear for your Pentax, on this list lately.
> 
> Let's get this kick started:  What gear is on your shopping list, or at least 
> your wish list? Why do you want it?  Why haven't you bought it yet?
> 
> The two major pieces of kit on my "want" list, are the DFA 24-70/2.8, and the 
> K-3 III.
> 
> Over the past couple of weeks, I've kind of wanted a weather sealed, "fast", 
> daily driver lens.  I already have a Tamron 28-70/2.8 and the DFA 
> 28-105/3.5-5.6 which is WR.  So I do have weather sealed in that range, and I 
> do have a f/2.8 lens in that range.  I also have the 16-50/2.8 which works 
> just fine on my K-3.  So, I already have the lenses that pretty much surround 
> that specific bit of functionality.
> 
> As to the K-3 III, what I really want would be a K-1 III, a K-1 with all of 
> the nifty features they've added to the K-3 III (though I don't really need 
> the fancy pentaprism for the larger field of view, because it's already 
> bigger), plus a modern sensor.  The K-3 was released almost 7 years ago, I 
> mostly use mine these days when I either want a wide angle of view, with a 
> fast lens, or when I need the best sensor performance available to me in 
> challenging light.  I would not be surprised if when you compared the final 
> images, the K-3 III sensor outperformed the K-1.  
> 
> Since a K-1 III isn't available, or even announced, there are a lot of things 
> the K-3 III does better than my K-1, but I have barely had a chance to take 
> any photos at all the past year, and I haven't really had any chance to 
> photograph in conditions where I'm up against the performance limits of 
> either of my Pentax camera bodies.  I have very little reason not to hold off 
> on buying a K-3 III until either the price drops, or they sell a major 
> upgrade to the K-1.  
> 
> The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it 
> barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.
> 
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RE: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[jcoyle]

There is not really anything I want: I'm not very active photographically 
anyway, and my kit encompasses the range 16-500mm, fit
both my film and digital cameras (at least those with a bayonet mount) and for 
older cameras I have enough lens for my occasional
use, ranging from 18-135mm.  Were this not the case, I'd probably have to 
refamiliarise myself with what is current, but I am not
sure that the photography I actually do would significantly benefit from newer 
gear - I use a K5ii and an MZ-S mainly, with
occasional forays into film with an SV, a Spotmatic, or a  Rolleicord.
Which is why I have seldom got  into gear discussions...


John in Brisbane



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From: Larry Colen  
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Subject: What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

It was recently observed that there is almost no discussion of Pentax gear, or 
even gear for your Pentax, on this list lately.

Let's get this kick started:  What gear is on your shopping list, or at least 
your wish list? Why do you want it?  Why haven't you
bought it yet?

The two major pieces of kit on my "want" list, are the DFA 24-70/2.8, and the 
K-3 III.

Over the past couple of weeks, I've kind of wanted a weather sealed, "fast", 
daily driver lens.  I already have a Tamron 28-70/2.8
and the DFA 28-105/3.5-5.6 which is WR.  So I do have weather sealed in that 
range, and I do have a f/2.8 lens in that range.  I
also have the 16-50/2.8 which works just fine on my K-3.  So, I already have 
the lenses that pretty much surround that specific bit
of functionality.

As to the K-3 III, what I really want would be a K-1 III, a K-1 with all of the 
nifty features they've added to the K-3 III (though
I don't really need the fancy pentaprism for the larger field of view, because 
it's already bigger), plus a modern sensor.  The K-3
was released almost 7 years ago, I mostly use mine these days when I either 
want a wide angle of view, with a fast lens, or when I
need the best sensor performance available to me in challenging light.  I would 
not be surprised if when you compared the final
images, the K-3 III sensor outperformed the K-1.  

Since a K-1 III isn't available, or even announced, there are a lot of things 
the K-3 III does better than my K-1, but I have barely
had a chance to take any photos at all the past year, and I haven't really had 
any chance to photograph in conditions where I'm up
against the performance limits of either of my Pentax camera bodies.  I have 
very little reason not to hold off on buying a K-3 III
until either the price drops, or they sell a major upgrade to the K-1.  

The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it 
barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.


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What Pentax gear is on your shopping (or wish) list?

[Larry Colen]

It was recently observed that there is almost no discussion of Pentax gear, or 
even gear for your Pentax, on this list lately.

Let's get this kick started:  What gear is on your shopping list, or at least 
your wish list? Why do you want it?  Why haven't you bought it yet?

The two major pieces of kit on my "want" list, are the DFA 24-70/2.8, and the 
K-3 III.

Over the past couple of weeks, I've kind of wanted a weather sealed, "fast", 
daily driver lens.  I already have a Tamron 28-70/2.8 and the DFA 
28-105/3.5-5.6 which is WR.  So I do have weather sealed in that range, and I 
do have a f/2.8 lens in that range.  I also have the 16-50/2.8 which works just 
fine on my K-3.  So, I already have the lenses that pretty much surround that 
specific bit of functionality.

As to the K-3 III, what I really want would be a K-1 III, a K-1 with all of the 
nifty features they've added to the K-3 III (though I don't really need the 
fancy pentaprism for the larger field of view, because it's already bigger), 
plus a modern sensor.  The K-3 was released almost 7 years ago, I mostly use 
mine these days when I either want a wide angle of view, with a fast lens, or 
when I need the best sensor performance available to me in challenging light.  
I would not be surprised if when you compared the final images, the K-3 III 
sensor outperformed the K-1.  

Since a K-1 III isn't available, or even announced, there are a lot of things 
the K-3 III does better than my K-1, but I have barely had a chance to take any 
photos at all the past year, and I haven't really had any chance to photograph 
in conditions where I'm up against the performance limits of either of my 
Pentax camera bodies.  I have very little reason not to hold off on buying a 
K-3 III until either the price drops, or they sell a major upgrade to the K-1.  

The 85/1.4 is also kind of on my wish list, but the pricing is such that it 
barely qualifies as an idle fantasy.


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Re: What is this and why is it so special

[Brian W]

> On 10 November 2022 at 18:50 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> 1958/59 Pentax S with probably its original Takumar 55/2.2 lens. There’s a
> write-up and a couple of reviews on Pentaxforums.

Yes.  I picked up one of those during my collecting phase.  Still have it,
although mine's silver.

Cheers
Brian
> 
> > On 9 Nov 2022, at 17:50, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> > 
> > https://shopgoodwill.com/item/154526031
> > 
> > I’m guessing the collectors will know.
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Re: What is this and why is it so special

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> On Nov 10, 2022, at 6:39 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
> That would an M39 mount, wouldn’t it?

M42 I expect


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Re: What is this and why is it so special

[Alan C]

I use to have one of those. Yellow colour caused by ThO2 so not all that 
dangerous.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/52491228768/

Alan C

On 10-Nov-22 03:37 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Perhaps somebody eagerly wants a radioactive lens, noting the yellowish
cast?

Henk

Op do 10 nov. 2022 om 08:50 schreef Bob Pdml :


1958/59 Pentax S with probably its original Takumar 55/2.2 lens. There’s a
write-up and a couple of reviews on Pentaxforums.


On 9 Nov 2022, at 17:50, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

https://shopgoodwill.com/item/154526031

I’m guessing the collectors will know.
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Re: What is this and why is it so special

[Bob Pdml]

No

> On 10 Nov 2022, at 14:39, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
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> That would an M39 mount, wouldn’t it?
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Re: Re: What is this and why is it so special

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That would an M39 mount, wouldn’t it?
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Re: What is this and why is it so special

[Henk Terhell]

Perhaps somebody eagerly wants a radioactive lens, noting the yellowish
cast?

Henk

Op do 10 nov. 2022 om 08:50 schreef Bob Pdml :

> 1958/59 Pentax S with probably its original Takumar 55/2.2 lens. There’s a
> write-up and a couple of reviews on Pentaxforums.
>
> > On 9 Nov 2022, at 17:50, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> >
> > https://shopgoodwill.com/item/154526031
> >
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Re: What is this and why is it so special

[Bob Pdml]

1958/59 Pentax S with probably its original Takumar 55/2.2 lens. There’s a 
write-up and a couple of reviews on Pentaxforums.

> On 9 Nov 2022, at 17:50, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
> https://shopgoodwill.com/item/154526031
> 
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What is this and why is it so special

[collinb]

https://shopgoodwill.com/item/154526031

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Re: PESO: Maui Blog 8: What is it?

[ann sanfedele]

Dan - yes I did think it was broken - there are still payphone  kiosks 
around town here but they are just ghosts..
due to the graffiti on yours I thought it was the same... love it that 
they work!


ann

On 2/1/2022 1:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Ann.  The outdoor pay telephones are not broken, if that is what
you implied.  Both at this location work, as do two others I checked on at
other locations.  In some ways (green energy) Hawai'i is on the cutting
edge;  in others, it is quite retro.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 9:41 AM ann sanfedele  wrote:


   fixed your link...  love to see these!

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/1/30/what

but the one you posted first kinda went with the subject matter..

broken is broken

ann



On 1/30/2022 10:57 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I spotted this object across the street from our resort, near the beach
parking lot.
( can't quite figure out what it is;  perhaps an art installation of some
sort?

http  Maui Blog ://
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K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135 mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR
Comments, criticisms, and suggestions are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: Maui Blog 8: What is it?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann.  The outdoor pay telephones are not broken, if that is what
you implied.  Both at this location work, as do two others I checked on at
other locations.  In some ways (green energy) Hawai'i is on the cutting
edge;  in others, it is quite retro.

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On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 9:41 AM ann sanfedele  wrote:

>   fixed your link...  love to see these!
>
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/1/30/what
>
> but the one you posted first kinda went with the subject matter..
>
> broken is broken
>
> ann
>
>
>
> On 1/30/2022 10:57 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > I spotted this object across the street from our resort, near the beach
> > parking lot.
> > ( can't quite figure out what it is;  perhaps an art installation of some
> > sort?
> >
> > http  Maui Blog ://
> > dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/1/30/what
> >
> > K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135 mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR
> > Comments, criticisms, and suggestions are invited and appreciated.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: Maui Blog 8: What is it?

[John Sessoms]

Droll


On 1/30/2022 10:57 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I spotted this object across the street from our resort, near the beach
parking lot.
( can't quite figure out what it is;  perhaps an art installation of some
sort?

http  Maui Blog ://
dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/1/30/what

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Re: PESO: Maui Blog 8: What is it?

[ann sanfedele]

 fixed your link...  love to see these!

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/1/30/what

but the one you posted first kinda went with the subject matter..

broken is broken

ann



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I spotted this object across the street from our resort, near the beach
parking lot.
( can't quite figure out what it is;  perhaps an art installation of some
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Re: PESO: Maui Blog 8: What is it?

[Alan Cole]

The foundation stone of a new museum? Haven't seen one of those for years.

Alan C

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 5:57 AM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> I spotted this object across the street from our resort, near the beach
> parking lot.
> ( can't quite figure out what it is;  perhaps an art installation of some
> sort?
>
> http  Maui Blog ://
> dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/1/30/what
>
> K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135 mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR
> Comments, criticisms, and suggestions are invited and appreciated.
>
> Dan Matyola
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PESO: Maui Blog 8: What is it?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I spotted this object across the street from our resort, near the beach
parking lot.
( can't quite figure out what it is;  perhaps an art installation of some
sort?

http  Maui Blog ://
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K-5 IIs, smc DA 18-135 mm F 3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR
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Re: OT: Can you tell me what camera thiszoom is for?

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks for those links! Yeah, that's what it looks like..

ann

On 4/30/2021 6:21 PM, Brian W wrote:

Ann

This is a useful reference to identify lens mounts:

https://www.keh.com/blog/the-lens-mount-guide-part-1
https://www.keh.com/blog/the-lens-mount-guide-part-2

Based on that, I'd agree Nikon AF mount.

Cheers
Brian


On 30 April 2021 at 12:01 ann sanfedele  wrote:


A friend gave me a couple of things to sell on ebay.. but need help -
sadly, not Pentax mount  ..
but you guys know all.. so.  what will it fit?

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/i-HpQXWMx/A

tanx,
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Re: OT: Can you tell me what camera thiszoom is for?

[Brian W]

Ann

This is a useful reference to identify lens mounts:

https://www.keh.com/blog/the-lens-mount-guide-part-1
https://www.keh.com/blog/the-lens-mount-guide-part-2

Based on that, I'd agree Nikon AF mount.

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> On 30 April 2021 at 12:01 ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> 
> A friend gave me a couple of things to sell on ebay.. but need help - 
> sadly, not Pentax mount  ..
> but you guys know all.. so.  what will it fit?
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/i-HpQXWMx/A
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Re: OT: Can you tell me what camera thiszoom is for?

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> On Apr 29, 2021, at 8:02 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I though someone would just know -- not have to dig..  but the rear cap that 
> was on it has "N" on it  and I looked at your first one and knew that was 
> wrong because of where the red dot was in relation to the pins...
> 
> I just have to make sure it is right before I try to sell it..
> 
> Thanks for your efforts

One interesting detail about Nikon mounts is that they nearly fit on Pentax, 
The bayonet doesn’t click in, but you can attach it solidly enough to take a 
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Re: OT: Can you tell me what camera thiszoom is for?

[ann sanfedele]

I though someone would just know -- not have to dig..  but the rear cap 
that was on it has "N" on it  and I looked at your first one and knew 
that was wrong because of where the red dot was in relation to the pins...


I just have to make sure it is right before I try to sell it..

Thanks for your efforts

ann

On 4/29/2021 10:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

My apology, after a bit more digging, I think it’s Nikon,  which seems to have 
the contacts ont he outside of the barrel.



On Apr 29, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I’d guess Canon EF

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m64975896430/?gclsrc=aw.ds&_source=google_medium=cpc_campaign=12272857566_content=t0=116244884086=g=c_id=126358573_id=m64975896430_id=530638316398=Cj0KCQjwsqmEBhDiARIsANV8H3YuRbgmLL8P9BrMZ32riENq9DwUVl73mkjJNHB6nGjCuV6jCS3XkCEaAiqyEALw_wcB



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A friend gave me a couple of things to sell on ebay.. but need help - sadly, 
not Pentax mount  ..
but you guys know all.. so.  what will it fit?

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Re: OT: Can you tell me what camera thiszoom is for?

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My apology, after a bit more digging, I think it’s Nikon,  which seems to have 
the contacts ont he outside of the barrel.


> On Apr 29, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> I’d guess Canon EF
> 
> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m64975896430/?gclsrc=aw.ds&_source=google_medium=cpc_campaign=12272857566_content=t0=116244884086=g=c_id=126358573_id=m64975896430_id=530638316398=Cj0KCQjwsqmEBhDiARIsANV8H3YuRbgmLL8P9BrMZ32riENq9DwUVl73mkjJNHB6nGjCuV6jCS3XkCEaAiqyEALw_wcB
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2021, at 7:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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>> A friend gave me a couple of things to sell on ebay.. but need help - sadly, 
>> not Pentax mount  ..
>> but you guys know all.. so.  what will it fit?
>> 
>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/i-HpQXWMx/A
>> 
>> tanx,
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Re: OT: Can you tell me what camera thiszoom is for?

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I’d guess Canon EF

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> On Apr 29, 2021, at 7:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> A friend gave me a couple of things to sell on ebay.. but need help - sadly, 
> not Pentax mount  ..
> but you guys know all.. so.  what will it fit?
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/i-HpQXWMx/A
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OT: Can you tell me what camera thiszoom is for?

[ann sanfedele]

A friend gave me a couple of things to sell on ebay.. but need help - 
sadly, not Pentax mount  ..

but you guys know all.. so.  what will it fit?

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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

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> On Feb 21, 2021, at 6:06 PM, Bill  wrote:
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> Having said that, I have been practicing social distancing since 1957, I
> realize that I am not exactly mainstream.

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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

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On Sun., Feb. 21, 2021, 3:48 p.m. John,  wrote:

> I don't personally do facebook myself, but I don't think this is a reason
> to
> condemn "social media" all together. After all, PDML is "social media".
>

The old adage that any group that will let me join and all that.
My problem is more with the Facebook, Instagram, Twitters and that sort of
social media.
They seem to bring out the very worst in people and enable the very worst
people.



> There are criminals trying to take advantage of you in anything you do.
> You have
> to be careful, but you can't just withdraw entirely from life.
>

Too much social media is proof that a person has no life to begin with.

Having said that, I have been practicing social distancing since 1957, I
realize that I am not exactly mainstream.

bill


> On 2/20/2021 17:58:02, Bill wrote:
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> and
> > social media in general.
> >
> > bill
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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

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> On Feb 21, 2021, at 1:51 PM, John  wrote:
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> I have problems with text messages - fat fingers. I can text, but only 
> because I found a stylus that works with my phone.
> 

I have a wonderful cheat, an app called Pulse.  It allows me to send texts from 
my computer (actually anything I have on the net).  

It does not work, however, on iPhones because apple doesn’t do conventional 
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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

[John]

I have problems with text messages - fat fingers. I can text, but only because I 
found a stylus that works with my phone.


On 2/20/2021 20:47:58, Bill wrote:

I use common email for that. The daughter says I'm pretty much the only
person that sends her emails.

I have recently learned how to send text messages.
Pretty cool, actually, but might be a little personal for crackbook.

bill

On Sat., Feb. 20, 2021, 5:15 p.m. ann sanfedele,  wrote:



sometimes you really do want to send someone a message privately so I
think most of us know
to put something very specific in the first few words of the message
which the person getting it
can recognize it as really you.

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I don't personally do facebook myself, but I don't think this is a reason to 
condemn "social media" all together. After all, PDML is "social media".


There are criminals trying to take advantage of you in anything you do. You have 
to be careful, but you can't just withdraw entirely from life.


On 2/20/2021 17:58:02, Bill wrote:

Another great reason to stay the hell away from Facebook in particular and
social media in general.

bill

On Sat., Feb. 20, 2021, 4:44 p.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:


I just got a facebook PM from Paul with “look what I found”
When I clicked on it, it purported to be a facebook login, but the URL
wasn’t at facebook

Someone used it to steal Paul’s facebook password and use that to phish
all his friends.

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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Yes, I received the same. 

On macOS, all you need to do is hover the mouse pointed over the link and the 
Finder will display the complete text of the link in a pop-up. You can 
instantly see whether it is what it purports to be that way. If you don't 
understand what the link's text is, it's best to just delete the email 
entirely, and send an email or whatever flavor of comm msg you like to the 
person who purportedly send the email and ask them if they sent it to you… 

Nothing to be worried about it if you just use a little normal precaution 
before clicking on things willy-nilly.

(Since I strongly doubt that Paul would send me an email with that kind of 
content directly and personally, rather than through a group post or a post to 
PDML, I just deleted the email without looking at it very closely... :) )

G

> On Feb 20, 2021, at 2:44 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> I just got a facebook PM from Paul with “look what I found”
> When I clicked on it, it purported to be a facebook login, but the URL wasn’t 
> at facebook 
> 
> Someone used it to steal Paul’s facebook password and use that to phish all 
> his friends.
> 
> I’m posting it here because I expect a lot of others here will get the same 
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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

[Bill]

I use common email for that. The daughter says I'm pretty much the only
person that sends her emails.

I have recently learned how to send text messages.
Pretty cool, actually, but might be a little personal for crackbook.

bill

On Sat., Feb. 20, 2021, 5:15 p.m. ann sanfedele,  wrote:

>
> sometimes you really do want to send someone a message privately so I
> think most of us know
> to put something very specific in the first few words of the message
> which the person getting it
> can recognize it as really you.
>
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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

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On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 6:15 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:


>
> sometimes you really do want to send someone a message privately so I
> think most of us know
> to put something very specific in the first few words of the message
> which the person getting it
> can recognize it as really you.
>

Ann, thats exactly what i do to make sure but in this case i saw Paul's
disclaimer on FB, buyt yes the tease line i have seen in spam before

Dave

>
> ann
>
> On 2/20/2021 5:58 PM, Bill wrote:
> > Another great reason to stay the hell away from Facebook in particular
> and
> > social media in general.
> >
> > bill
> >
> > On Sat., Feb. 20, 2021, 4:44 p.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:
> >
> >> I just got a facebook PM from Paul with “look what I found”
> >> When I clicked on it, it purported to be a facebook login, but the URL
> >> wasn’t at facebook
> >>
> >> Someone used it to steal Paul’s facebook password and use that to phish
> >> all his friends.
> >>
> >> I’m posting it here because I expect a lot of others here will get the
> >> same PM.
> >>
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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

[ann sanfedele]

The one I got had an https with a youtube tease and an address that 
ended in .ru


as long as you don't follow links in messenger you are safe..
my rule of thumb in facebook is never to open any message from any 
friend unless the
tease line (that shows in the notification panel)  is very specific and 
in the "voice" of the sender..
"look what I found" was what the tease said in the message from Paul's 
account.


sometimes you really do want to send someone a message privately so I 
think most of us know
to put something very specific in the first few words of the message 
which the person getting it

can recognize it as really you.

ann

On 2/20/2021 5:58 PM, Bill wrote:

Another great reason to stay the hell away from Facebook in particular and
social media in general.

bill

On Sat., Feb. 20, 2021, 4:44 p.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:


I just got a facebook PM from Paul with “look what I found”
When I clicked on it, it purported to be a facebook login, but the URL
wasn’t at facebook

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all his friends.

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Re: Warning, careful what you click on

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Another great reason to stay the hell away from Facebook in particular and
social media in general.

bill

On Sat., Feb. 20, 2021, 4:44 p.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:

> I just got a facebook PM from Paul with “look what I found”
> When I clicked on it, it purported to be a facebook login, but the URL
> wasn’t at facebook
>
> Someone used it to steal Paul’s facebook password and use that to phish
> all his friends.
>
> I’m posting it here because I expect a lot of others here will get the
> same PM.
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Warning, careful what you click on

[Larry Colen]

I just got a facebook PM from Paul with “look what I found”
When I clicked on it, it purported to be a facebook login, but the URL wasn’t 
at facebook 

Someone used it to steal Paul’s facebook password and use that to phish all his 
friends.

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OT: What is a picture worth?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Can we trust our brains to interpret a photograph?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOYInKgy8k

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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Henk Terhell]

Mark, thanks for testing. I got it also working in Chrome so I'll use 
this method now.
It is the method by uploading from onedrive on the phone that has 
stopped working.


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Op 2020-11-18 om 17:45 schreef Mark Roberts:

I just made a post to Instagram from my desktop web browser and it
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Re: What happened to instagram?

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> On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:34 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> Reminded me I was testing Instagram. It does work from a browser. I
> installed Vivaldi only for Instagram.
> It really blows my mind how Instagram works and why it's so popular.

It almost didn’t.  I listened to this interview a few years back:

https://www.npr.org/2016/09/19/494538482/npr-podcast-how-i-built-this-instagram


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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Mark Roberts]

I just made a post to Instagram from my desktop web browser and it
worked the same way as always. No problems.
 
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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Toine]

Reminded me I was testing Instagram. It does work from a browser. I
installed Vivaldi only for Instagram.
It really blows my mind how Instagram works and why it's so popular.

On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 09:40, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>
> Flume is a MAC program whereas I'm on Windows 10. I will search for
> other PC programs.
> For now the browser method works again.
>
>
> Henk
>
> Op 2020-11-17 om 20:54 schreef Larry Colen:
> >
> >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> >>
> >> Instagram is centered around using your phone, so if you want to post pics 
> >> to it, getting the pics to your phone is your best bet.
> >>
> >> I sync selected photos from my desktop to my phone with Lightroom, add to 
> >> my phone photo folder, and there they are.
> > I use the program Flume to post from my desktop.
> >
> >
> >> On 11/17/20 1:58 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
> >>> Bob, are you able to upload a pic from the camera through your PC storage?
> >>> I used to upload from a onedrive map but that no longer works, whereas 
> >>> looking in the browser on the PC the + widget is missing.
> >>> Along with the new buttons for adds and tiktok type videos, instagram 
> >>> wants to get rid of serious photographers (like me:)).
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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Henk Terhell]

Flume is a MAC program whereas I'm on Windows 10. I will search for 
other PC programs.

For now the browser method works again.


Henk

Op 2020-11-17 om 20:54 schreef Larry Colen:



On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

Instagram is centered around using your phone, so if you want to post pics to 
it, getting the pics to your phone is your best bet.

I sync selected photos from my desktop to my phone with Lightroom, add to my 
phone photo folder, and there they are.

I use the program Flume to post from my desktop.



On 11/17/20 1:58 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Bob, are you able to upload a pic from the camera through your PC storage?
I used to upload from a onedrive map but that no longer works, whereas looking 
in the browser on the PC the + widget is missing.
Along with the new buttons for adds and tiktok type videos, instagram wants to 
get rid of serious photographers (like me:)).
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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Henk Terhell]

Thanks Subash, I tried again the browser method. I had forgotten to 
refresh (F5) and now this method works.

I'll find your pics on instagram.

Henk

Op 2020-11-18 om 08:24 schreef Subash Jeyan:

am not a regular user of insta though i have an account there mainly
for my bird photography. but the old method of using the browser (i
used chromium on linux) still works. in fact, thanks to you i got to
revisit my instagram account and upload a few photos :)


On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 16:44:22 +0100
Henk Terhell  wrote:


We discussed earlier the best way to upload photo's from the PC to
instagram.
There is now a new layout of instagram on my mobile from where I see
no possibility to upload.
  From the browser in developer mode (Chrome) also it doesn't work, so
probably they want to limit the content only to phone pics.






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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Subash Jeyan]

am not a regular user of insta though i have an account there mainly
for my bird photography. but the old method of using the browser (i
used chromium on linux) still works. in fact, thanks to you i got to
revisit my instagram account and upload a few photos :)


On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 16:44:22 +0100
Henk Terhell  wrote:

> We discussed earlier the best way to upload photo's from the PC to 
> instagram.
> There is now a new layout of instagram on my mobile from where I see
> no possibility to upload.
>  From the browser in developer mode (Chrome) also it doesn't work, so 
> probably they want to limit the content only to phone pics.



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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I don't recall the previous conversation, sorry. 

When I want to upload something from my desktop system (Mac mini) to Instagram, 
I output a square or 4:3 format landscape JPEG for that purpose and shunt it to 
my iPhone via AirDrop. Then I open the Instagram app and add all the image 
files I want to upload as a batch. 

It's quick and easier than dealing with the IG stuff on the desktop for me. :)

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 On 17 Nov 2020, at 15:45, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We discussed earlier the best way to upload photo's from the PC to 
>>> instagram.
>>> There is now a new layout of instagram on my mobile from where I see no 
>>> possibility to upload.
>>> From the browser in developer mode (Chrome) also it doesn't work, so 
>>> probably they want to limit the content only to phone pics.
>>> 

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> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> Instagram is centered around using your phone, so if you want to post pics to 
> it, getting the pics to your phone is your best bet.
> 
> I sync selected photos from my desktop to my phone with Lightroom, add to my 
> phone photo folder, and there they are.

I use the program Flume to post from my desktop.


> 
> On 11/17/20 1:58 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>> Bob, are you able to upload a pic from the camera through your PC storage?
>> I used to upload from a onedrive map but that no longer works, whereas 
>> looking in the browser on the PC the + widget is missing.
>> Along with the new buttons for adds and tiktok type videos, instagram wants 
>> to get rid of serious photographers (like me:)).
>> Henk
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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Doug Brewer]

Instagram is centered around using your phone, so if you want to post 
pics to it, getting the pics to your phone is your best bet.


I sync selected photos from my desktop to my phone with Lightroom, add 
to my phone photo folder, and there they are.


On 11/17/20 1:58 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Bob, are you able to upload a pic from the camera through your PC storage?
I used to upload from a onedrive map but that no longer works, whereas 
looking in the browser on the PC the + widget is missing.
Along with the new buttons for adds and tiktok type videos, instagram 
wants to get rid of serious photographers (like me:)).


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Re: What happened to instagram?

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I don’t think it was ever meant for serious photographers, but most of the 
worlds best photographers seem to use it. Not all of them are serious though. 
I’m looking at you, Elliott Erwitt. :0)

I don’t have a PC at the moment, maybe never again, so I can’t test what you’re 
asking for. I use just my iPhone and my iPad. I might dig out my Linux laptop 
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> On 17 Nov 2020, at 18:59, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Bob, are you able to upload a pic from the camera through your PC storage?
> I used to upload from a onedrive map but that no longer works, whereas 
> looking in the browser on the PC the + widget is missing.
> Along with the new buttons for adds and tiktok type videos, instagram wants 
> to get rid of serious photographers (like me:)).
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2020-11-17 om 18:40 schreef Bob Pdml:
>> Looking at it from the iOS app on my iPhone the + widget is on the top row 
>> of the screen now. Sami on the iPad.
>> 
>>>> On 17 Nov 2020, at 15:45, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We discussed earlier the best way to upload photo's from the PC to 
>>> instagram.
>>> There is now a new layout of instagram on my mobile from where I see no 
>>> possibility to upload.
>>> From the browser in developer mode (Chrome) also it doesn't work, so 
>>> probably they want to limit the content only to phone pics.
>>> 
>>> Henk
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Re: What happened to instagram?

[Henk Terhell]

Bob, are you able to upload a pic from the camera through your PC storage?
I used to upload from a onedrive map but that no longer works, whereas 
looking in the browser on the PC the + widget is missing.
Along with the new buttons for adds and tiktok type videos, instagram 
wants to get rid of serious photographers (like me:)).


Henk

Op 2020-11-17 om 18:40 schreef Bob Pdml:

Looking at it from the iOS app on my iPhone the + widget is on the top row of 
the screen now. Sami on the iPad.


On 17 Nov 2020, at 15:45, Henk Terhell  wrote:

We discussed earlier the best way to upload photo's from the PC to instagram.
There is now a new layout of instagram on my mobile from where I see no 
possibility to upload.
 From the browser in developer mode (Chrome) also it doesn't work, so probably 
they want to limit the content only to phone pics.

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Re: What happened to instagram?

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Looking at it from the iOS app on my iPhone the + widget is on the top row of 
the screen now. Sami on the iPad.

> On 17 Nov 2020, at 15:45, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> We discussed earlier the best way to upload photo's from the PC to instagram.
> There is now a new layout of instagram on my mobile from where I see no 
> possibility to upload.
> From the browser in developer mode (Chrome) also it doesn't work, so probably 
> they want to limit the content only to phone pics.
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What happened to instagram?

[Henk Terhell]

We discussed earlier the best way to upload photo's from the PC to 
instagram.
There is now a new layout of instagram on my mobile from where I see no 
possibility to upload.
From the browser in developer mode (Chrome) also it doesn't work, so 
probably they want to limit the content only to phone pics.


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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

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I am very happy with my K-5, but am still looking forward to the K-new (as 
usual, I will wait a year before buying so that other people can identify the 
bugs).

I would very much like an articulating rear screen, though. I have missed some 
close-to-ground-level macro shots because there wasn’t room, or too much mud, 
to stretch out to see the screen. I have shot several events where it would 
have been very useful for over-the-heads shots, too.

My wife has a K-70, and I like the size and weight, but I find the user 
interface difficult unless one just wants straight “auto”.

Rick

> On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't mind mirrorless with its inherent light weight, but with all my 
> Pentax lenses I'm hesitant to change brands.
> And it is so useful now to be able to switch lenses of FF and APS-C in the 
> Pentax system without any converters.
> The K-1 is a perfect camera but not for carrying on long walks if combined 
> with a tele.
> As a walk-around camera I much like my K-5 with a small lens as the DA 
> 21/3.2,  but the fixed back screen is sometimes a handicap.
> A compact APS-C with improved sensor and flip-out screen would therefore be 
> on my wish list for Santa Claus.
> In fact both K-70 and KP are good choices and we haven't seen yet what the 
> new flagship has more to offer than a better prisma and two card slots.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2020-07-27 om 11:28 schreef Steve Cottrell:
>> On 26/7/20, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and
>>> mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a
>>> tripod.
>>> For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.
>> I also value a flip-out screen. But on top of that I prefer a fully 
>> articulating screen that flips out, then can rotate in both directions, and 
>> even fully close again with the screen facing inwards and not visible at 
>> all. I have it on an Olympus Pen F and love it. So much so that I'm 
>> considering an OM-D EM-1 mark II camera as another body with the same 
>> feature. (The original OM-D EM-1 just has a flip-up screen.)
>> 
>> I'm really enjoying the M43 concept. I can easily get my head around the 
>> lenses and their angle of acceptance, and there's some big bonuses, 
>> particular at the long end. My A*85/1.4 is awesome on M43 and with the 5 
>> axis IS, is so usable handheld.
>> 
>> Actually I don't have any Oly lenses. The A*85 is joined by a 24/2.8 and a 
>> 50/1.4 - love using these lenses - they all have adapters on them for easy 
>> swapping out.
>> 
>> The other two are Samyang 12/2 and Voigtlander 15/4.5
>> 
>> Enjoying the mirrorless life!
>> 
>> 
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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[P. J. Alling]

It depends on your vision of state of the art, as I've said, while I 
don't have anything against an adjustable rear screen, either the one on 
the back of the K-1 or the fully articulating screen on, K-70 and K-P, 
but, it is more fragile and therefor something else you can break, and I 
seem to be able to break nearly anything.


It would be more convenient, but given the the cost of a K70 these days, 
(or it's upcoming successor), I think I'd get a one of them for whenever 
I really needed to use the flip out screen and use the solid body camera 
most of the time to lessen my chances of breaking the screen completely 
off, (I'm surprised I've never broken the pop up flash off a camera, but 
heck, I have several with that device and the day is still young).


On 8/1/2020 2:53 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
All Pentax FF and APS-C DSLR cameras (and those of competitors) have a 
movable screen in 2020 and there is no reason not to have it for new 
models.
I bet therefore that the final version of the new flagship will have 
it too.
The two videos demonstrate that Ricoh/Pentax put so much focus on the 
new non-mirrorless APS-C flagship for their fate in the coming years.
To compete with other top APS-C cameras such as of Fujifilm all 
features should therefore be state of the art.


Henk

Op 2020-08-01 om 02:18 schreef Rick Womer:

Having watched the video, I very much doubt that the back pane moves.
Unfortunately.

Rick

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 04:35 Henk Terhell  wrote:


Not that this provides any new information, but there is now a
dedicated  webpage of the Ricoh/Pentax product planning guy on progress
of the new APS-C flagship.
https://pentaxofficial.com/en/5848/ 



Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 12:50 schreef Henk Terhell:

There is a follow-up video from Ricoh/Pentax.
The new APS-C is claimed to have a new penta-prism, improved grip, new
shutter, better image quality and also a silver model (also for star
lenses and K-1 mark II)
No details on date of introduction.
I still have no clue on whether the back LCD panel is fixed or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k0yKDJPg0

Henk

Op 2020-07-16 om 19:54 schreef Henk Terhell:

Today on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/-tOfTmF7ahs

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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

All Pentax FF and APS-C DSLR cameras (and those of competitors) have a 
movable screen in 2020 and there is no reason not to have it for new models.

I bet therefore that the final version of the new flagship will have it too.
The two videos demonstrate that Ricoh/Pentax put so much focus on the 
new non-mirrorless APS-C flagship for their fate in the coming years.
To compete with other top APS-C cameras such as of Fujifilm all features 
should therefore be state of the art.


Henk

Op 2020-08-01 om 02:18 schreef Rick Womer:

Having watched the video, I very much doubt that the back pane moves.
Unfortunately.

Rick

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 04:35 Henk Terhell  wrote:


Not that this provides any new information, but there is now a
dedicated  webpage of the Ricoh/Pentax product planning guy  on progress
of the new APS-C flagship.
https://pentaxofficial.com/en/5848/ 

Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 12:50 schreef Henk Terhell:

There is a follow-up video from Ricoh/Pentax.
The new APS-C is claimed to have a new penta-prism, improved grip, new
shutter, better image quality and also a silver model (also for star
lenses and K-1 mark II)
No details on date of introduction.
I still have no clue on whether the back LCD panel is fixed or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k0yKDJPg0

Henk

Op 2020-07-16 om 19:54 schreef Henk Terhell:

Today on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/-tOfTmF7ahs

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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Rick Womer]

Having watched the video, I very much doubt that the back pane moves.
Unfortunately.

Rick

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 04:35 Henk Terhell  wrote:

> Not that this provides any new information, but there is now a
> dedicated  webpage of the Ricoh/Pentax product planning guy  on progress
> of the new APS-C flagship.
> https://pentaxofficial.com/en/5848/ 
>
> Henk
>
> Op 2020-07-22 om 12:50 schreef Henk Terhell:
> > There is a follow-up video from Ricoh/Pentax.
> > The new APS-C is claimed to have a new penta-prism, improved grip, new
> > shutter, better image quality and also a silver model (also for star
> > lenses and K-1 mark II)
> > No details on date of introduction.
> > I still have no clue on whether the back LCD panel is fixed or not.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k0yKDJPg0
> >
> > Henk
> >
> > Op 2020-07-16 om 19:54 schreef Henk Terhell:
> >> Today on YouTube:
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/-tOfTmF7ahs
> >>
> >> Henk
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

Not that this provides any new information, but there is now a 
dedicated  webpage of the Ricoh/Pentax product planning guy  on progress 
of the new APS-C flagship.

https://pentaxofficial.com/en/5848/ 

Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 12:50 schreef Henk Terhell:

There is a follow-up video from Ricoh/Pentax.
The new APS-C is claimed to have a new penta-prism, improved grip, new 
shutter, better image quality and also a silver model (also for star 
lenses and K-1 mark II)

No details on date of introduction.
I still have no clue on whether the back LCD panel is fixed or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k0yKDJPg0

Henk

Op 2020-07-16 om 19:54 schreef Henk Terhell:

Today on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/-tOfTmF7ahs

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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

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On 30/7/20, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:

>>>>> It's basically a pun on French for the phrase "what is it?"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quis que c'est.
>>>> 
>>>> Qu'est-ce que c'est?
>>> 
>>> So you c'est.
>> 
>> Seau you c'est.
>> 
>
>You've hit on a famous French homonym!

I'll settle for a bucket of Tribute ;-) 




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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 29.07.20 um 23:11 schrieb Bob Pdml:


Qu’est-ce que c’est?


Vasistas ?

A small window. :-)

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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Bob Pdml]

> On 30 Jul 2020, at 11:15, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 29/7/20, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>>>> It's basically a pun on French for the phrase "what is it?"
>>>> 
>>>> Quis que c'est.
>>> 
>>> Qu'est-ce que c'est?
>> 
>> So you c'est.
> 
> Seau you c'est.
> 

You’ve hit on a famous French homonym!

Un sot avait pour mission de faire parvenir le sceau d'un seigneur à son roi. 
Il le mit dans un seau et partit à cheval. Le cheval fit un saut et les trois ( 
le sot + le sceau + le seau) tombèrent !


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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Steve Cottrell]

On 29/7/20, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>>> It's basically a pun on French for the phrase "what is it?"
>>> 
>>> Quis que c'est.
>> 
>> Qu'est-ce que c'est?
>
>So you c'est.

Seau you c'est.


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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry, I didn't think of that phrase ("Qu'est-ce que c'est).
It must be Spanish that displaced it from my active memory.


 Larry Colen Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:29:42 -0700 wrote:


It's basically a pun on French for the phrase "what is it?"

Quis que c'est.






Dan, That's a good point!

Kiska together with Alaska was a part of Russian fur-trading outposts 
since 1775.

Kiska was sold by Russia to the US together with Alaska in 1867.
This toponym in Aleut is "Qisxa". But I am not sure which way that name 
propagated. However, what's interesting is that Kiska is one of the 
so-called "Rat Islands" that were named so in 1827 first in Russian, then 
directly translated into English, - because of the accidentally introduced 
rats that were eradicated in 2009(!).


I wonder if there was any connection between the kitty ("kiska") and the 
rats...



As for "kishka", actually, it means intestine (the original meaning) in 
some Slavic languages.
My understanding is that the naming of the sausage with that word in some 
of those languages is secondary, - as the intestines (of pigs and 
cows?) were used as sausage casings.




Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 29 Jul 2020 17:27:17 -0700 wrote:

Kiska is an Aleutian Island.  It is one of the two islands occipied by the
Japanese during WW II.
Kishka, on the other hand is an Eastern European blood sausage.


Dan Matyola


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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Kiska is an Aleutian Island.  It is one of the two islands occipied by the
Japanese during WW II.
Kishka, on the other hand is an Eastern European blood sausage.

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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:18 PM Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
>
> Just in case (you might have googled it already): It is a Seattle-based
> crab fisshing vessel.
> http://www.kiskasea.com
> https://www.facebook.com/FVKiskaSea/
> I am curious how they came up with that name.
>
>
>
> Fun fact: "Kiska" in Russian means "kitty".
> It is also used as an endearment to kids and women (in the 3rd or 2nd
> person).
> Also, it is a vulgar/slang word for female genital.
>
> I've just found that in Hindi, "kiska" means "whose":
> https://www.quora.com/What-does-kiska-mean-in-Hindi
>
>
> So, Larry, maybe you should've asked "Whose it is?" ;-)
>
>
> Igor
>
> PS. An old real story told by one of the participants:
> There was some cultural event (on a ship cruise, if I remember correctly)
> with youths from the UK and Russia. Someone's cat ran away and was
> hiding. People from England started calling the cat: "Pss! Pss!"
> Russians were laughing: that's what they tell a toddler sitting on a potty
> to initiate the process.
> Then Russians started helping, calling the cat, now with the Brits'
> turn to laugh, as the calling sound was "Kis-kis-kiss!"
>
>
>
>
> Larry Colen Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:40:22 -0700 wrote:
>
> Silly Photo Every So Often
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/
>
>
>
> No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and
> wordplay are welcome.
>
>
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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Larry Colen]

> On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:14 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 03:17:51PM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>> 
>> Fun fact: "Kiska" in Russian means "kitty".
>> Also, it is a vulgar/slang word for female genital.
> 
> So, basically, "pussy" ?

Or "Puss Sea"




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