RE: OT: A question about filtering posts

2001-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts

Filtering posts won't have any effect on the rest of the list with any email
software I'm aware of: It just auto-deletes the stuff after it hits your
inbox. 

If you're looking for software I can heartily recommend Forte Agent. Very
versatile filtering capabilities (which I've been making use of long before
last Tuesday).


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Re: THE NEW PENTAX

2001-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts

I expect my recently-ordered (and should-be-arriving-any-day-now) MZ-S will
be the last film camera I buy.


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Re: Slide Mounts

2001-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts

I use a fine tip Sharpie permanent marker to write on plastic mounts. I've
always preferred plastic but never enough to get unduly concerned about it. Now,
though, I'm going to prefer plastic because they're easier to pry open when I
need to see what f-stop and shutter speed my MZ-S has imprinted between the
sprocket holes! VBG
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Re: THE NEW PENTAX

2001-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts

David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had my picture taken at work yesterday (ugh, I hate cameras).  The guy had 
this fancy Sony digital camera that will shoot stills onto memory stick and video 
onto digital videotape.  You can download everything to your computer via 
firewire.  Functionally very impressive but what got me was the recorded click-
whirr sound it plays when you take a photo.  The guy hadn't figured out how 
to disable it yet (so much for digital's ability to be unobtrusive).  I wonder if you 
can upload new sounds.  I'd record the sound of a Pentax 67 clunk.  Or a K2 
complete with the sound of manually winding the film.

I absolutely LOVE that idea! Sampled shutter noises of your choice to upload.
Collect and trade 'em on line!
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Re: Ball Point Pens Pencils (Was Re: THE NEW PENTAX)

2001-09-18 Thread Mark Roberts

Treena Harp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bravo! I confess I have never seen such a comprehensive treatise on such
underappreciated objects. I find such odd facts fascinating (I'm not
joking.)

You have heard, of course, where all your missing ball-point pens go when they
(inevitably) disappear?

(Hint: HHGTG)
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Re: Help needed: flower photographs

2001-09-18 Thread Mark Roberts

mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been given (told I'm going to do!) an assignement.

The local Red Cross is running a large flower display this
weekend and they've asked yours truly to do some photos at the
preview on Thursday evening.

Mike Johnston's your man for help on this one ;)
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RE: NASA Photo Tonight

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts

If the absurdity of the idea didn't tip anyone off, the phrase pass this
on to as many people as possible should have been a red flag ;)

Gerald E. Lewis wrote:

This is a HOAX

 Please pass this on if you wish. A formal request from NASA: 10:30 EASTERN
 TIME 9:30 Central, 8:30 Mountain, 7:30 Pacific NASA has asked that
 everyone step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 and light a candle.
They
 will be positioning a satellite to take a picture of the U.S. and posting
 it on the news tomorrow morning. 
 Please pass this on to as many people as possible. 


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Re: OT: Replacement ink cartridges - Yooouuuuch!!!!

2001-09-22 Thread Mark Roberts

Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody out there have any suggestions where I might be able to
find the ink cartridges for less money, or some sort of refill kit?  If
I can't find them less expensive than this, it might be cheaper to trash
the printer the next time it runs out of ink!

Try http://www.inksupply.com/


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Re: Filter Factors

2001-09-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Anand DHUPKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think I missed some e-mails, however, there was some discussion on 13% 
grey or 18% grey.  Would someone explain that part to me a bit ?
More importantly, is there any book which would explain the zone system ?

There was a long thread on this subject a while back. To sum up:

ANSI PH3.49-1971, the U.S. standard for reflectance ligh meters (there is *no*
international standard, by the way!), specifies about 12.5%, not the 18% of
commercially available grey cards. Kodak says, when using an 18% grey card, For
subjects of normal reflectance increase the indicated exposure by 1/2 stop.
Camera and light meter manufacturers, however, are free to calibrate their
meters any way they want so it's best to learn you *your* equipment performs
under real life conditions.

Some links:
  http://www.richardhess.com/photo/18no.htm
   This page shows the calculations involved. The math is basic algebra (but 
   it does involve some rather arcane units of measurement like footlamberts!)

  http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000gMS
   Danny Cirillo of Mamiya America lists the reflectivity constant for Sekonic
meters as 12.5 and Minolta as 14. The Sekonic owner's manual list 12.5

A book:
  Ctein, Post-Exposure: Advanced Techniques for the Photographic Printer. 
  (See Metering and the Myth of 18% Gray on page 29.)

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Re: MX Focusing

2001-09-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Ian Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have noticed that my MX ,bought used,does not quite make infinity 
on focusing,I have tried the lenses in my LX and they are OK.I have 
tried reseating the focussing screen to no avail.any ideas?
A service is in order I suspect.

Either or both of two things that could be wrong: The position of the focusing
screen or the film-to-lens-flange distance (the latter is set with shims between
the camera's lens flange and the camera body).

You need to give a little bit clearer description of the problem you're having.
Find a subject far enough away to be accurately in focus when a 50mm lens is
focused at infinity (check with another camera). Mount the 50mm lens and set it
wide open (maximum aperture) and focused at infinity. Take some pictures. There
are three possibilities:

1) The viewfinder image is out of focus but the exposed image on the film *is*
in focus.
   -- This would mean the focusing screen position is out of adjustment.

2) Both the viewfinder image AND the exposed image on the film are out of focus.
   -- This means the film-to-lens-flange distance is wrong and shims need to be
changed to correct it.

3) The viewfinder *shows* that the image in focus but what comes out on film is
NOT in focus.
   -- This means that the film-to-lens-flange distance is off and that someone
has foolishly adjusted the focusing screen to try to compensate.


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Re: MX Focusing

2001-09-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Absolutely right. I'd forgotten that one.

Regardless, the first step is to get the infinity focus at the film plane
correct. When you're sure that that's right you adjust the mirror position
and/or focusing screen to make the viewfinder image match.

Frits J. Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I thought of a third option, the mirror is off somehow. I don't know if that
makes sense or not.

Frits Wüthrich


 Ian Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have noticed that my MX ,bought used,does not quite make infinity
 on focusing,I have tried the lenses in my LX and they are OK.I have
 tried reseating the focussing screen to no avail.any ideas?
 A service is in order I suspect.

 Either or both of two things that could be wrong: The position of
 the focusing
 screen or the film-to-lens-flange distance (the latter is set
 with shims between
 the camera's lens flange and the camera body).
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RE: Images or Photographs

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts

Hey, what's all this talk about images?  For more than a century the
pictures we've taken with our cameras have been called photographs, or
photos.  Of late, images have been used to describe or define our
pictures.  When did this happen, and why?  Is this some newspeak
resulting from digital technology, from the posting of scanned photos
on the 'net, or from the electronic transfer of pictures, which are
not really photographs but reproductions of photographs.  

When should I call pictures photographs and when is it appropriate to
call them images?  

Calling photographs images is like calling spaghetti pasta. It's new
and trendy, but not inaccurate. The former term is a subset of the latter.



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Re: This is too weird

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts

My favorite of the recent urban legends is the Nostradamus prophecy that
was actually written by a Canadian student in the early 1990s. (It's also
on snopes.com)

There are two schools of thought on Nostradamus: either (1) he had supernatural
powers which enabled him to prophesy the future with uncanny accuracy, or
(2) he did for bullshit what Stonehenge did for rocks.
 - Cecil Adams





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RE: OT: Nostradamus (was: Re:= 20This is too weird)

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts

Don't be concerned about it. A lot of Nostradamus's writing, besides being
ambiguous in the extreme, has been the subjected to some exccedingly helpful
translations into other languages (with, of course, the benefit of 20/20
hindsight). Then it get passed on orally with the attendant alterations
and clarifications. Good entertainment value, but that's all.

-- Original Message --

Believe it or not...

Some years ago I saw a documentary movie about Nostradamus: one
of the prophecies (at least the interpretation of the prophecy)
stated that around the end of the XX century a NEW city should
have been destroyed by a man with a turban (or a similar
headgear)...

I still recall it since I live near Naples, in Italian Napoli,
from the greek Neapolis which in fact means new city... 

Now I'm afraid that the city he was talking about was another.

Gianfranco


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: This is too weird


 My favorite of the recent urban legends is the Nostradamus
prophecy that
 was actually written by a Canadian student in the early 1990s.
(It's also
 on snopes.com)
 
 There are two schools of thought on Nostradamus: either (1)
he had supernatural
 powers which enabled him to prophesy the future with uncanny
accuracy, or
 (2) he did for bullshit what Stonehenge did for rocks.
  - Cecil Adams
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Re: SURPRISE! (was: Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post)

2001-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts

Yes, and the same alien intervention that keeps making money disappear from my
bank account only to reappear in Pentax's. Damned aliens!

BTW: I'm off to visit my parents in Georgia this weekend and plan on giving the
MZ-S a thorough workout. Full report later.

Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Must be that same alien intervention that caused the streaks on my recent
roll of Delta 400

Bill, KG4LOV
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 This has nothing really to do with this thread, but everything to do
 with being surprised.  Some time ago I developed a roll of Tri-X, and
 was astounded to find the first two frames on the roll contained an
 image I had no recollection of taking.  In addition, they appeared to
 be double exposures.  On both there was a close-up of a woman's face
 on the left side of the frame, and superimposed over that was a man
 with a backpack climbing a mountain.  Both images were pretty much
 centered in the frame with a large area of clear negative around it -
 IOW, the space would have printed black.  It was eerie.

 Now, for those who don't know me, or where I live, let me say that I
 do not shoot double exposures, and it's hard to imagine how I'd do
 that accidentally.  Further, both were almost identical shots, the
 only difference being that the man was a few steps further up the
 mountain in the second shot.  I don't live anywhere near a mountain,
 and I certainly had not traveled to a mountainous area during the time
 the roll had been exposed.  And how that blank space all around the
 image got there is beyond me.  Yes, I sometimes get surprised as well.

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Re: Images or Photographs

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Roberts

Aaron Reynolds wrote:
 I don't see how printing from the negative by shining light through it

 onto sensitized paper differs from printing the negative by shining light
 through it, recording the light as data and then laying down the data
 with inks on coated paper.

Or recording the light as data and laying down the data on conventional
photo paper, as is done with the Kodak/Noritsu Digital Light System (I believe
this is how the Fuji Frontier system works as well?)

I get prints from slides done on the Kodak/Noritsu system locally whenever
I need prints larger than 9.5 x 14 (too big for my home system with 2820
dpi film scanner). Quality is far superior to conventional printing IMO.




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A Kodak moment

2001-09-26 Thread Mark Roberts

Last Saturday I ran in a 15k race locally. Just this evening I was talking to
the race director and she told me that just after the first 3 or 4 runners
finished a couple drove up and asked if they could sit by the finish line and
cheer the runners in as their daughter was running in the race. The answer was
obviously yes because for these small local events you need every body you can
get to provide crowd support at the finish line. So they parked, pulled a
couple of folding chairs out of their car and sat by the finish line encouraging
the finishers. 

My friend the race director pulled out her point and shoot to get photos of the
runners as they crossed the line. Smile, it's a Kodak moment! she would shout
and No Fuji film in this camera! The guy seemed to appreciate this but my
friend didn't think much about it...until after the race when she found out he
was the CEO of Kodak.
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Re: 645 or 67?

2001-10-03 Thread Mark Roberts

I went with the 645 myself because of the size/weight advantage. I like
to go backpacking to inaccessible locations and I can get a reasonable 645
kit AND 35mm kit in my Lowepro Trekker AW.

Another thing I like about the 645 is the 3:4 ratio of the format. I prefer
it over the 2:3 ratio of 35mm and the 4:5 and 6:7 ratios of bigger gear.
It's not a big issue (I'm not an anti-cropping fanatic) but I do prefer
to use as much of the film that I've exposed and I find the 3:4 ratio works
best for my eye.

Mark

-- Original Message --

Thank you all very much for the response, I'm definitely closer than I
was. I'm going to head down to the shop and try out both the 67 and the
645, though I'm focusing on the 645 as I do alot of macro work as well
as spur of the moment grab that shot kind of stuff. You folks were
exactly what I needed to get my brain clear, thanks again. :)



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Re: Re[2]: Preparing for a Day of Photography

2001-10-03 Thread Mark Roberts

Yep. That's the original word.
Puritanical Americans morphed it into the word tidbits that's familiar
to those in the U.S. (This bit of trivia never fails to elicit roars of
laughter from Brits.)


Titbits ?

Bill, KG4LOV
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  When all this is done I'm ready to go.  Have I missed anything?
 
  Your sarnies and thermos ;- )
 
 unfortunately for Shel he lives in California, where they don't have
 such glories. He has to make do with bronzed beach babes tossing
 titbits 'twixt his teeth, and pouring the local chilled Zinfandel over
 his waiting tonsils.
 
 It's a hard life for some...


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Re: medium format scanners

2001-10-03 Thread Mark Roberts

Tiger Moses [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My dear fellow medium format film users, I have just joined your ranks.

What are youusing to scan negatives/slides of 120 film?  and what is the
resolution of that equipment?
Do you recommend someone buy the same thing?

I'm using the Minolta Dimage Scan Multi II and think it's wonderful. It only
scans medium format at 1120dpi (2828 for 35mm) but I find that adequate for my
purposes, meaning printing on my Epson 1270 up to 11x14. The occasions when I
want to do anything larger are so few that it makes more sense to send the job
out anyway.

I believe there's a new version of this scanner coming out that does 35mm and MF
at high resolution (4000dpi?) and surely a higher price (the old Scan Multi II
goes for about $2000). If they start to offer close-out prices when the new
one's due you might get a real bargain.

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Re: Great Deal on a 67 kit, Hu rry

2001-10-04 Thread Mark Roberts

28mm is probably a misreading of 2.8 (as in f2.8), especially likely since
the seller, judging by the price, clearly didn't know what he had (if indeed
he had it; the feedback rating of 2 didn't exactly inspire confidence
for me).

-- Original Message --

tom writes:

  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1281821351
 
 Especially with that 28mm.

 Strange, I thought the widest 67 lens is the 35mm fisheye.


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Re: Lancia (was: Re: MZ-S Cost...Hey Pentax.)

2001-10-04 Thread Mark Roberts

I have a 1984 Subaru GL with 140,000 miles on it (it's going to get me through
one more winter...I hope).

If you own a nice car you're not spending as much money on cameras, lenses and
film as you might be otherwise ;-)

Trevor Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a well-used Saturn.  It has four wheels, a
steering wheel and a horn that goes BEEP.  SO THERE.

--- Lewis, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well Gianfrance, I do not have a Lancia..but I do
 have a 93 Alfa Romeo 164L
 and a 1983 Alfa GTV-6.

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Re: OT: Honda Longevity

2001-10-05 Thread Mark Roberts

When *I* was a young man we had to work down the coal mines 23 hours a day...

-- Original Message --

Here there are Hyundai Pony's running 570,000+ MILES
now who would have thought that possible.

--- Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  375,000 miles is quite impressive for a Honda CRX,
 i wouldnt have though it
  possible :)
 
 
 A guy I worked with years ago had a Honda Prelude
 that he drove for more
 that 450,000 miles. He took very good care of it,
 and reported that he did
 suffer from new car envy every so often, but then
 he'd just think, hey,
 the Prelude's running fine, and it's paid for...I
 never did find out how
 long it lasted, because I left that job.


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Re: Dear Squid

2001-10-05 Thread Mark Roberts

William Robb answered this query:
 
  William,
 
   May I ask you to explain what a Dear Squid letter  is ??
 I'm at a serious
   loss here !
 
 A rejection letter that leaves you feeling really depressed.
 William Robb

I know what would cheer you up - a nice slice of toast!

Oh no. Don't tell me you're our chirpy breakfast companion!
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RE: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread Mark Roberts

See Stan's Pentax lens page for lots of user comments on Pentax lenses.
You can spend hours reading this stuff (I know - I have!) Fascinating and
very useful.

http://www.concentric.net/~Smhalpin/


-- Original Message --

Greetings all,

I am a newbie to the line of Pentax cameras not to mention a newbie to
the
wonderful world of photography.  Recently I have been given two K1000 bodies
with 50mm lens attached plus a vivitar 24mm lens.  I have various questions
and I hope that some of you will take the time to answer them.  First,
what
type of lens will fit into the K body?  Am I limited to only manual focus
lenses?  Is there a 24-105mm lens available for this camera?  Were I to
get
prime lenses which ones would you recommend from 24mm on up to 200mm? 
My
questions would qualify as duh questions but I am sorting things right
now and getting ideas from various people and hopefully in the future will
add more lenses to my minimal collection.  Thank you for your input/comments
and be assured that all comments/information are welcomed and most definitely
needed.

Have a great day!!

Francis M. Alviar
Irvine, CA



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Re: New leather coverings for Pentax bodies

2001-10-18 Thread Mark Roberts

Outstanding! I love the commentary that goes with his descriptions, too: 

The K-1000 in Antique Brown Snakeskin. This is the same type of skin that Leica
puts on their special edition M6's. Depending upon your instructor, this kit
will get you a better grade in Photography class, or it may get you thrown out.

Bob Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several different leather covers are now available for Pentax bodies
(Spotmatic,
LX, K1000, ME Super).   These have been very popular with Olympus owners
for
some time, and come in a variety of colors and finishes (including snake
and lizard).

For info, look at:

http://homepages.together.net/~msparks/pentax/pentax_l.htm

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Pentax 67-II, leaf shutter lens, TTL flash metering

2001-10-20 Thread Mark Roberts

Last night I was talking with the co-owner of my favorite local photo lab and he
was telling me about his problems trying to get his 67-II to wirk with a leaf
shutter lens and TTL flash metering. He (and, apparently, Pentax) says it can't
be done. The primary reason is obviously that the flash wants to fire as soon as
the focal plane shutter opens, at which point the leaf shutter is closed. I
believe there's a PC flash connector on the lens itself, but of course this
provides triggering only (in other words, it has only ground and one electrical
contact rather than the multiple contacts of the hot shoe which send TTL
metering information to the flash. 

Could a PC flash cable from the lens be spliced into the hot shoe wiring to
solve this? 

Any 67 users dealt with this?

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Re: Pentax 67-II, leaf shutter lens, TTL flash metering

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Roberts

Yes, I've already thought of this. SInce it's not my 67 I not going to try it,
though! Just wondering if anyone else has actually done it.

Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not a 67 user but I am into electronics (yes doing it for a living
not just playing with it).  Taking the trigger from the LS lens instead
of from the camera MAY work.  It really depends on the how Pentax do
things inside the camera.  

It certainly won't break anything if you try.  I would do it this way:

1. Get hold of a Hotshoe adaptor F

2. Remove the 4 screws from the bottom of the adaptor and carefully
separate the 2 halves.

3. Remove the centre pin and the spring that holds it.  Put them in a
zip lock plastic bag so you don't loose them and can put them back if
you ever want to. 

4. Get an old PC flash sync cord  that is long enough to go from the pc
socket on the lens to the hotshoe of the 67.  Cut off the end you don't
need and strip off about 1 cm (a bit under half an inch) of the
insulation.  Solder the centre wire to the contact where you removed
the centre pin, then insulate the braided outer wire of the pc cable
and solder the end to the hot shoe ground.

5. Make a small hollow in one half of the adaptor case (I'd probably do
it to the top half) to allow the PC cable to exit and then put it
together.

The result should look quite professional and MIGHT even work.  It will
even allow you to use the 5P cables to give you TTL using multiple off
camera flashes with the LS lens.  If it doesn't work you can remove the
modification and you end up with a hotshoe adaptor with a hole in it.

If you do give this a go please let me and the rest of the group know
how it goes.


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Re: The REAL reason the Pentax MX rules!

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Roberts

Ken Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

An extra battery and a roll of film are also small enough to throw in 
your bag just in case and maybe even smaller ;-)

Yeah.
If you've got 'em!
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Spotmatic service manual: On line th is week!

2001-10-22 Thread Mark Roberts

After many weeks of work and even more weeks of procrastination and even
*more* weeks of not having enough time to work on it...

The Pentax Spotmatic service manual PDF is nearing completion. The exploded
diagrams are all done. I have finished the scanning and OCR (and manual
OCR corrections) on all the text. It's all formatted and waiting for the
addition of the various mechanical drawings that go with the text. I'll
be working on it this week and it's not really that big a job.

Should be on line some time this weekend at http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm



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Re: The REAL reason the Pentax MX= 20rules!

2001-10-22 Thread Mark Roberts

Tom Rittenhouse wrote:

I read this and the other comments deniging the MX. Most MX were bought
by
very serious photographers who used them heavily unlike most ME, ME Super
cameras which spent the last twenty years in a sock drawer. I had two MX
bought in 78, and 80 which I used ten years, five of them
semi-professionally. The only problem was mirror misalignment on the chrome
one after being dropped.

It amazes me how people who buy a worn out 20 plus year old camera are
sure
those cameras were junk to start with. The MX was a rugged professional
camera however any camera tends to become junk after a few thousand rolls
of
film have been run through it. Read how many folks on this list treat their
MX and think how many other cameras will stand up to that kind of abuse.

Hear, hear!


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Re: Pentax Digital NEWS - FULL S TORY from AP 27th OCT.

2001-10-22 Thread Mark Roberts

Mike wrote:

All this smacks of great good sense to me. What they're going to do is
release a smaller-CCD-size, LOWER COST, 3-5-mp digital SLR ASAP, and put
off MR-42 until both the market and the technology are more stable.

I like the idea. What it means for the Pentax loyalist is that we will
have a potentially MUCH more affordable digital SLR to cut our teeth on,
technology we buy now will be more reliable and more tried-and-true, and
we will still be able to use all our existing lenses and system accessories.

I certainly hope you're correct. Right now I'm still *furious* at this latest
development. I spent several thousand dollars on equipment this year, largely
based on the confidence that the digital SLR was coming and what I bought
would be compatible.

This sudden change, whatever the rationale, is inexcusable. Yes, digital
technology is advancing at a tremendous rate and the market for it isn't
stable. But in October of 2001 they can't really expect me to believe that
this is NEWS to them and that it's taken them by surprise.

P.S. I have to say that I'm totally NOT sold on the idea that a full-size
sensor (meaning 35mm size, 24mm x 36mm) is a good idea.

I am. At least if your statement that we will still be able to use all
our existing lenses is important. It is to me and I love wide angles, so
I'd be totally screwed by a smaller CCD. Hell, I'm totally pissed off just
*thinking* about my recently acquired Pentax 80-200/2.8 becoming a 90-260
(I almost bought the Sigma because it went down to 70mm rather than 80).

I'm really not sure it is. A smaller sensor size is really a great advantage:
it means lenses can be significantly smaller and lighter and significantly
faster, and depth of field can be greater for a given angle of view. All
these are true advantages. I suspect that 24 x 36mm sensors will prove
to
be an evolutionary dead end in the long run. Right now we think we want
this because it conforms to the old standards.

No, I want it because it makes all my lenses (an investment of several
thousand dollars) compatible: my 20mm will still give me the angle of view
of a 20mm.

But once digital shakes free of 35mm conventions, the smaller CCD size
will seem like just one more natural advantage of digital.

Having the *option* of using a smaller size CCD would certainly be an advantage.
But one of the natural advantages of Pentax is backwards and forwards lens
compatibility and I don't think having a 15mm lens act like a 22mm really
qualifies.

That said, if Pentax doesn't have *some* kind of digital SLR on the market
by spring I think they'll have missed the boat for good.





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Addendum to Pentax 67 flash metering question

2001-10-22 Thread Mark Roberts

Haven't learned anything new regarding my question about TTL metering with the
Pentax 67II and the leaf shutter lens but...

I didn't mention my impressions when I was shown the camera itself. It was the
first time I'd ever seen a Pentax 67 in the flesh and two thoughts immediately
struck me:

1) Wow! What a beautiful piece of engineering!

2) Wow! I'm glad I bought a 645! (That 67 is huuuge!)

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Re: Pentax Digital NEWS - FULL STORY from AP 27th OCT.

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark wrote:

 This sudden change, whatever the rationale, is inexcusable. Yes, digital
 technology is advancing at a tremendous rate and the market for it isn't
 stable. But in October of 2001 they can't really expect me to believe that
 this is NEWS to them and that it's taken them by surprise.

While I sympathize with you, Mark, I don't think I agree...if you're getting
a complex cutting-edge electronic product from a subcontractor, and the
subcontractor runs into unexpected problems and delays, what are you going
to do? You can't very well will a product to market that you can't bring
to market. 

Ah, you're assuming it's delays in availability of parts from the subcontractors
driving this. I was assuming that they were telling the truth and had *decided*
to halt or push back development of the digital SLR because the market's moving
too fast.

I believe you may be right.

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RE: Funny OT: Canon ad

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Full page ad in Nov. Scientific American:

Nothing screams AMATEUR like a third party lens

Yeah. Saw it. Just about the most offensive ad I've seen since the famous
Nike You don't win the silver you lose the gold ad.

Nothing screams TWIT like a person who buys expensive stuff so they can
LOOK like a professional.

I think Sigma's latest EX series lens offerings are scaring the sh*t out
of a lot of camera manufacturers. Canon seems worried, anyway ;)


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Re: Pentax Digital NEWS! Part one

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Matamoros, Cesar A. wrote:

  We received our Nikon D1H and D1X yesterday afternoon.  I
 will begin playing with them today.
 
  The manual states that the viewfinder shows 96% of the frame
 recorded. 

Ouch. That means a *really* tiny viewfinder then...

No, I think perhaps you're confusing image coverage with image magnification.
96% coverage (which is what's being discussed here) just means that 4% of what's
recorded by the CCD will be cropped from the view in the viewfinder. The
remaining 96% can be *magnified* (or reduced or presented life size).


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Re: Funny OT: Canon ad

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But I AM an amateur...

Maybe, but you're saying it quietly and with dignity, not screaming it.

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Re: Pentax digital direction

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [Thoughts on Mike J.'s comments on possible future digital SLRs]
 
 Illuminating as ever, Mike, and the point that there is no law of
 nature that favours a 36x24mm frame is a fair one.  However, if
 Pentax is to move to a smaller-frame digital SLR, while still
 maintaining compatibility with the lenses we all value so highly,
 there's some work to do in the area of wideangles.

Well, this would break compatibility with film cameras, but how about
making lenses that are optimized for the smaller CCDs? They wouldn't
have to have as big a coverage, and you'd get heavy vignetting if you
used them on a K-mount film camera, but they'd probably be compact and
high quality...

...and those who shoot film and digital would have to have two sets of lenses
instead of one. And *carry* both sets whenever we're out shooting both film and
digital.

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Re: The REAL reason the Pentax K1000 rules!

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bah, yourself!  K1000's are just Spotmatics with no dof and lots of plastic
parts.

Plastic parts on a K1000?
Not on the early ones. 

(OK, now lets get the early K1000 owners fighting with the late K1000
owners!)

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Re: Circular polarizer suggestions

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

And definitely don't use it for portraits.
Makes everyone look like Lech Walesa.

But whatever you do, don't, don't, for God's sake DON'T use it while on the
Equator, or it will destroy the space-time continuum as we know it...

 I hope you didn't pay too much for it. Circular polarizers are
 specifically designed only to be used above the Arctic circle, or
 below the Antarctic circle. If you're shooting penguins in black 
 white (and why woudn't you?) the use of one of these filters increases
 the contrast, particularly on King Penguins. If you use it in
 conjunction with a red filter then you'll get pictures of flamingos.

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Re: Our Faces

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If anyone wants to see a picture of me,
look here:

http://www.picturesofmyfinger.com/aboutme.htm

There's something odd about that picture but I just can't...put my finger on it.

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Re: Fast 35mm Lenses

2001-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts

I think Doug Brewer either has or *wants* the FA 35/2.0 AL
Either way, I know he's used it and is very impressed.

Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From my experience, the K35 f2.0 is sharper than the M/A f2s. The K3.5 is
the sharpest of the manual focus lenses and the auto focus FA 35 f2.0 AL is
reported to knock that marvellous lens over.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: William D. Sawyer


35mm is my favorite focal length for general photography.  I like the
perspective better than a Normal lens. I also like the speed of an f2
version, as it allows me to shoot in many of the spots walking around
lands me in.

I currently have the A version of the 35mm f2, which I got at a very good
price. I'm VERY disappointed in it's performance, as evidenced by a series
of shots I recently took of some old buildings with very weathered wood.
The grain in the wood simply is not sharp.  It was shot with XP-2 rated at
400 in daylight, so the lens was well stopped down, probably in the f8-f16
range. I was using a Super Program, motordriven, on a monopod. Likely
shutter speeds in the 1/60-1/250 range.


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Re: Real DOF the Pentax K1000

2001-10-24 Thread Mark Roberts

Erik Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But, as one other member said some time ago, it's useful for evaluating the
amount of fuzziness in out-of-focus areas. The opposite of DOF, in other
words.

Right. I use the depth-of-field preview more as a quality-of-bokeh preview. I
know the background's going to be out of focus, I just want to see *how* out of
focus it is.

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Re: Funny OT: Canon ad

2001-10-24 Thread Mark Roberts

mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bob Walkden wrote:
 
 no - that's Artist...

My favourite definition of art: Lying with style - Ki
Longfellow Stanshall (widow of Vivian)

Viv Stanshall, one of the greats. Just heard a Public Radio interview with Niel
Innes a couple of weeks ago. Gonna have to break out my old Bonzo albums now.

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Bonzos (was: Funny OT: Canon ad= 29

2001-10-24 Thread Mark Roberts

mike wilson wrote:

See the website:
http://www.neilinnes.org/
All my albums burgled last year (again) so I'm starting the
collection once more.  Looking for the Alberts/Bonzos/Temperance
Seven album.

Got it. Want a tape?
My Brother Makes the Noises for the Talkies

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20Pentax=20Digital=20NEWS=21=20Part=20one? =

2001-10-24 Thread Mark Roberts

On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Matamoros, Cesar A. wrote:

  Looking at the specifications - 
 
  Magnification  0.8x with 50-mm  lens set to infinity
 and -1.0 m(-1)

So that *does* mean a tiny viewfinder. Keep in mind that not all the
24x36 original frame is shown, so you start with a small image. Add
that .8x magnification, and you get what, about 1/3 to 1/4 of the size
of the MX viewfinder?

Or am I still missing something?

I think so but I'm afraid I'm missing the same thing.

It looks as if the magnification spec above refers to magnification in relationship
to view of the actual scene (or how the human eye sees it), rather than
to the image being put on film. (After all the magnification ratio between
the image on film and the image in the viewfinder is the same no matter
what lens you use and how it's focused, so why specify 50mm at infinity?)


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RE: Chasseur d'Images Pentax Lens Ratings

2001-10-24 Thread Mark Roberts

I haven't heard about that Sigma 24-90/2.8 anywhere before.
If it's any good I may be screaming amateur soon ;)

-- Original Message --

As required, here are the Cd'I last issues :
snip
July-August 2001 (#235):
- Nikkor AF 28-80mm f/3,3-5,6 G
- Nikkor AF 70-300mm f/4-5,6 G
* SMC-Pentax FA 24-90mm f/3,5-4,5 AL IF
- Sigma AF 24-90mm f/2,8 EX DF Asph.


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RE: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20C hasseur=20d=27Images=20Pentax=20Lens=20 Ratings?=

2001-10-24 Thread Mark Roberts

On second thought, I think it's a misprint and they were referring to the
24-70/2.8

I haven't heard about that Sigma 24-90/2.8 anywhere before.
If it's any good I may be screaming amateur soon ;)

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As required, here are the Cd'I last issues :
snip
July-August 2001 (#235):
- Nikkor AF 28-80mm f/3,3-5,6 G
- Nikkor AF 70-300mm f/4-5,6 G
* SMC-Pentax FA 24-90mm f/3,5-4,5 AL IF
- Sigma AF 24-90mm f/2,8 EX DF Asph.


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Re: Little White Half Sphere

2001-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts

Paul Jones wrote:

 I'm trying to get that little white half circle that is on M series
 lenses, the thing you line up with tab to release the lense.
 I have a 35/2.8 which its missing from.

 Does any one have an M series lenses that is stuffed and they dont need
 the white thing from it? The one from the M50/1.4 looks the same, so i 
 assume they are the same from lense to lense.

Paul,

I have one I just extracted form an old M-series organ donor lens. Email me with
your address and I'll mail it to you.

Mark

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Pentax digital info

2001-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts

Philips is almost certainly having some *major* problems with the production
of the 6 megapixel CCD.

Since I'm the Components Engineer responsible for semiconductors (mostly
discretes but including all optoelectronic devices) at my company I've been
doing some investigating. I've been going back and forth with their North
American distributors for over a week and they still won't cough up pricing
*or* availability information. The latest voice mail I got from the local
rep tried to steer me toward looking for alternative devices. It seems that
no one at, or associated with, Philips even wants to *talk* about this device.

Considering that they've just lost one significant customer for this part
with the cancellation of the Pentax 6MP digital SLR, unavailibility of this
part is more than suspicious, IMO, and indicates they're having major problems
of some kind. Perhaps yield issues, perhaps the soft semiconductor market
has forced them to cut back in general and this part was one that got the
axe. Who knows.

Don't know if this the same CCD that was to be used in the Contax digital
SLR. The Philips press release only mentioned Pentax 
(http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/publications/content/file_735.html)

I'll post more information when/if I get it but I think I'm getting about
as much as I'm going to find out without a personal spy inside Philips!
We'll see.




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Re: Pentax digital info

2001-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts

From what little more I've been able to dig up I'm pretty sure the reason
Philips is not making the CCD is for financial reasons rather than technical:
The semiconductor business was in a big slump *before* the Sept 11 terrorist
attacks and is doing even more poorly now. They just aren't in a position to
produce anything that isn't going to sell in big numbers (and a 6 megapixel CCD
falls squarely into that category).

I suspect they're hoping to produce this part when the economy picks up at a
later date (they insist it's an active part in their catalog even though they
won't give me pricing or availability). This would explain why Pentax was so
diplomatic in their announcement, not saying Philips has bailed out and left us
holding the bag. They want to be on friendly terms so they can use this part
when it finally does become available. (A little company like Pentax is in no
position to upset a multinational behemoth like Philips even slightly.)


lbparis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark,

I'm personally pretty sure you are right.  I expect to see a
Pentax digital SLR body in the 5MP range for no more than
$2KUS (maybe less).  In which case, I'll be right in line with
an order.

Len
---

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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:40 PM
Subject: Pentax digital info


 Philips is almost certainly having some *major* problems with
the production
 of the 6 megapixel CCD.

 Since I'm the Components Engineer responsible for
semiconductors (mostly
 discretes but including all optoelectronic devices) at my
company I've been
 doing some investigating. I've been going back and forth with
their North
 American distributors for over a week and they still won't
cough up pricing
 *or* availability information. The latest voice mail I got
from the local
 rep tried to steer me toward looking for alternative devices.
It seems that
 no one at, or associated with, Philips even wants to *talk*
about this device.

 Considering that they've just lost one significant customer
for this part
 with the cancellation of the Pentax 6MP digital SLR,
unavailibility of this
 part is more than suspicious, IMO, and indicates they're
having major problems
 of some kind. Perhaps yield issues, perhaps the soft
semiconductor market
 has forced them to cut back in general and this part was one
that got the
 axe. Who knows.

 Don't know if this the same CCD that was to be used in the
Contax digital
 SLR. The Philips press release only mentioned Pentax
(http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/publications/content/file
_735.html)

 I'll post more information when/if I get it but I think I'm
getting about
 as much as I'm going to find out without a personal spy inside
Philips!
 We'll see.




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Re: MZ-L

2001-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts

Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I feel confident that the PZ form-factor and build quality will not be
seen
 again.

IMHO the build quality of the MZ-S is much better than that of the PZ-1p

Agreed. It FEELS like a camera that costs much more than the PZ-1p.

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Pentax Spotmatic service manual now on line!

2001-10-25 Thread Mark Roberts

I put in a couple of extra hours and got it finished before weekend. The Pentax
Spotmatic service manual, complete with meter addendum, and two service
memoranda, is now officially on line at http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm

It's a big document, but the PDF is only 3.7 Megabytes, thanks to using OCR on
all the text and careful optimization of all the images.

This service manual is just superb. Not due to my efforts, of course, but
because of the care that went into it on the part of the original writers. It
has tons of detailed text descriptions and plenty of diagrams. Top notch effort.
Even the English is pretty understandable ;)

Hope all the Spottie fans and screw-heads enjoy it!

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Re: Pentax Spotmatic service manual now on line!

2001-10-26 Thread Mark Roberts

Thanks to everyone for the compliments.

I have a Super Program service manual that I may start on soon but it's
even bigger than the Spotmatic manual (and probably less useful since fewer
people have the electronics background to work on this camera).

I'm still looking for k-series manuals as I believe they would be the most
useful items to add next.

Thanks for doing a great job.

Dave

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Beautiful job, Mark.  I know it looks better than the original you 
started with.

On Thursday 25 October 2001 20:34, Mark Roberts wrote:
 I put in a couple of extra hours and got it finished before weekend.
 The Pentax Spotmatic service manual, complete with meter addendum,
 and two service memoranda, is now officially on line at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm

 It's a big document, but the PDF is only 3.7 Megabytes, thanks to
 using OCR on all the text and careful optimization of all the 
images.

 This service manual is just superb. Not due to my efforts, of 
course,
 but because of the care that went into it on the part of the 
original
 writers. It has tons of detailed text descriptions and plenty of
 diagrams. Top notch effort. Even the English is pretty 
understandable
 ;)

 Hope all the Spottie fans and screw-heads enjoy it!

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RE: Pentax digital info

2001-10-26 Thread Mark Roberts

I considered that but my sources tell me it's not the case: Philips simply
isn't making this part at all at this time for anyone; their fabs are producing
just parts they can sell in big quantities.


Don't forget that the bigger the chip die size the lower the initial yield.
Possibly they have found that they can't produce enough good chips to meet
their contract requirements for both Contax and Pentax so Pentax may have
bowed out because they could not get guaranteed enough chips to have the
required number of cameras for sale at introduction.
Lots of possible scenarios. Maybe a low yield on the contract allows them
to
charge more per chip and Pentax didn't want the camera to get even more
expensive while maybe Contax didn't care because their target consumer
tends
to be more affluent than Pentax's.
Kent Gittings

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From what little more I've been able to dig up I'm pretty sure the reason
Philips is not making the CCD is for financial reasons rather than
technical:
The semiconductor business was in a big slump *before* the Sept 11 terrorist
attacks and is doing even more poorly now. They just aren't in a position
to
produce anything that isn't going to sell in big numbers (and a 6 megapixel
CCD
falls squarely into that category).

I suspect they're hoping to produce this part when the economy picks up
at
a
later date (they insist it's an active part in their catalog even though
they
won't give me pricing or availability). This would explain why Pentax was
so
diplomatic in their announcement, not saying Philips has bailed out and
left us
holding the bag. They want to be on friendly terms so they can use this
part
when it finally does become available. (A little company like Pentax is
in
no
position to upset a multinational behemoth like Philips even slightly.)


lbparis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark,

I'm personally pretty sure you are right.  I expect to see a
Pentax digital SLR body in the 5MP range for no more than
$2KUS (maybe less).  In which case, I'll be right in line with
an order.

Len
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 Philips is almost certainly having some *major* problems with
the production
 of the 6 megapixel CCD.

 Since I'm the Components Engineer responsible for
semiconductors (mostly
 discretes but including all optoelectronic devices) at my
company I've been
 doing some investigating. I've been going back and forth with
their North
 American distributors for over a week and they still won't
cough up pricing
 *or* availability information. The latest voice mail I got
from the local
 rep tried to steer me toward looking for alternative devices.
It seems that
 no one at, or associated with, Philips even wants to *talk*
about this device.

 Considering that they've just lost one significant customer
for this part
 with the cancellation of the Pentax 6MP digital SLR,
unavailibility of this
 part is more than suspicious, IMO, and indicates they're
having major problems
 of some kind. Perhaps yield issues, perhaps the soft
semiconductor market
 has forced them to cut back in general and this part was one
that got the
 axe. Who knows.

 Don't know if this the same CCD that was to be used in the
Contax digital
 SLR. The Philips press release only mentioned Pentax
(http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/publications/content/file
_735.html)

 I'll post more information when/if I get it but I think I'm
getting about
 as much as I'm going to find out without a personal spy inside
Philips!
 We'll see.




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RE: 'analogical' lenses coating an d CCD, not fully compatible?

2001-10-30 Thread Mark Roberts

Bill Peifer wrote:

 it will be interesting to see the technical references.

Here's everything I've found relating to the Philips ftf3020c CCD

Web page for CCD:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/ftf3020c

Datasheets for CCD (PDF file):
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/datasheets/FTF3020C.pdf

Application Notes for CCD (PDF file):
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/applicationnotes/an01-r2.pdf

General digital camera information:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/cms/imaging/dig_still_camera/

Press release about Pentax camera (interesting that there was never such
a release regarding the Contax digital):
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/publications/content/file_735.html


Also: I did finally get to talk to a Philips rep. about the CCD. Price is
$1000.00 each if you buy in quantities of 5000 units. If you just want one
it'll cost you about $5000.00!



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RE: 'analogical' lenses coating an d CCD, not fully compatible?

2001-10-30 Thread Mark Roberts

Leonard Paris wrote:

I suspect that Phillips wants more for
the 6MP CCD than Pemtax is willing to pay. 

Well, the price is ~$1000.00 (U.S.) each in lots of 5000 pieces. And that's
just for the CCD.

When you can buy a 5MP camera
for less that $2KUS, you aren't going to sell many 6MP cameras for $7KUS.
If Phillips drops the price on the 6MP CCD, I wouldn't be surprised to
learn
that the MZ-D (perhaps with a label) is on the schedule again. I'd pay
$2KUS
for a nice 5MP Pentax digital body.  I think there's a market for one.



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Re: 'analogical' lenses coating and CCD, not fully compatible?

2001-10-30 Thread Mark Roberts

Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wonder if Kyocera is still going to use this CCD for their Contax digital?

Has anyone ever confirmed that this *is* the CCD Contax was planning on using?

Everyone seems to be taking it for granted and I must admit I don't know what
other CCD they might use, but as far as I can tell Contax never announced that
they were using the Philips part. Philips had a press release announcing the
selection of this CCD for the Pentax camera... but nothing about the presumably
more prestigious Contax.

Of course, the lateness in arrival of the Contax digital (I believe it was
announced even before the Pentax digital) tilts the odds toward the Philips CCD.
If so we'll probably be hearing an announcement about a delay or postponement of
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Re: Ok, I'm a convert.

2001-10-31 Thread Mark Roberts

William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Less than 5 minutes later, I was
looking at as nice a photograph as I have seen.

If you're a current or former bw darkroom fan like me, you'll be absolutely
hooked on digital color printing (like I am). Like Mike Johnston said, it goves
you the control over color printing that was formerly only available for black
and white.


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Re: Only using my prime lenses - I promise

2001-10-31 Thread Mark Roberts

Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Photographs don't present themselves (usually); they
have to be looked for. I have a friend who will sometimes show me a bunch of
similar  proofs and say I know there was a shot there somewhere, but I
didn't get it. 

That's a great way of putting it. There a few places I go to repeatedly to try
to get *the* shot. I know I have taken some good ones but I haven't got the
*one*! 

Come to think of it, I almost always use primes when I go to these places.

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Re: Idea: PDML Reference Book?

2001-10-31 Thread Mark Roberts

Damn! The photos from this book were part of an exhibit at the George Eastman
House last year and I missed it!

You can see some of them at
http://www.geh.org/taschen/htmlsrc15/taschall_idx1.html
but you better put aside an hour or so of your time before you visit that
page... Good stuff.

Mark

Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was going to throw out a suggestion for everybody to consider--do you
think it might be useful for us to pick an official book that might help
provide examples for us when we engage in discussion?

I was thinking along the lines of a cheap, readily available book with a
great variety of pictures from the whole history of photography. If each of
us were to purchase a copy, then we could refer to it when trying to
illustrate a point, ask somebody else to provide an example from it, or
otherwise refer someone else somewhere else in the world to the same page
from the same book so we can be looking at the same thing. Sort of like a
PDML Handbook.

Do people think that might be useful?

If so, I'd like to propose a candidate: the George Eastman House compendium
published by Taschen, called _Photography from 1839 to Today_ (ISBN
3-8228-7073-0). Go to www.taschen.com or find it at amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/002-612-5578426

It's a small but very fat paperback with more than a thousand illustrations
in particularly high-quality reproductions (for this sort of thing) and yet
it's very cheap--only $20.

I think this might give us a mine of photographs of all sorts that we
could refer to (and, unlike using pictures from the PUG, nobody's ego would
be on the line). Plus, it's a great little book that I don't think anybody
would mind having.

Just an idea. What say ye?

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Re: Only using my prime lenses - I promise

2001-10-31 Thread Mark Roberts

aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I recognized was the potential of the subject.  In fact, if I recall, I
stopped on the way in and tried to get the boats.  I gave up, walked around
looking at other things for a while, and when I came back to leave I stopped
again.  I remember a sense of internal frustration that here I had something
I liked, but could not get it right (in the viewfinder).  But when finally
it snapped in... I was basically wanting that roll of film back to see this
one shot. 

Tom, I remember the shot you're talking about without even going back to the PUG
to look for it! I believe I sent you a note saying how much I liked it.

It's interesting what you say below, because usually the times it has 
happened it was with the 50mm.

Has 50mm lens ever been done as a PUG theme?

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Re: Expensive BW film!

2001-11-01 Thread Mark Roberts

The trail race was on a overcast day (Ektachrome 200) but the Boston Marathon
was mostly sunny, sometimes cloudy. The It's Like Woodstock, Man photo was
during one of the sunny intervals, for example. 

I shot the Boston Marathon stuff on ISO 800 color negative film (my telephoto at
the time was a less-than-stellar-quality 400/5.6 Sigma), mostly Fuji but with
one roll of truly wretched Kodak 800 Max which I purchased in an emergency. 

I Shot negative film instead of slides so I could get it processed in an hour at
the Walgreens on Boylston street, go back to my hotel room, scan the prints with
a flatbed scanner and laptop and have them on the web the same day.

Incidentally, I found a great use for the 18-35 zoom in places where I couldn't
get near enough at the start. I set it at 18mm, put it on my MX and stuck the MX
on my monopod. Then I set focus at the hyperfocal distance and used the
self-timer to take the shot while I held the the bottom of the monopod to put
the camera way over everyone's heads,

John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Mark, I will be interested to see how it turns out.  I would guess the 
shots you link to were taken on a fairly dull day: do you have a note of the 
film you used?
I took mine today on Jessops(UK photo shop) 200ASA C-41, on a sparkling Aussie 
day (32 degrees, hasn't rained in a few days), and was well satisfied with the 
lens sharpness.  I will be shooting some HP5 next, so will be interested to 
check the resolution of the lens with that.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

Mark Roberts keyboarded:

 I wouldn't say it's a brilliantly sharp lens, but it's a tremendously *fun*
 lens! I have one and generally use it when I'm going somewhere I don't want
 to take my SMC-A 20/2.8 (in the woods covering a trail race or through the
 crowds  at the Boston Marathon).
 I used this lens for the wide angle shots on these web pages:
 http://www.robertstech.com/run/graphics/runpic34.htm
 http://www.robertstech.com/run/graphics/runpic33.htm


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Re: What your favourite photo?

2001-11-01 Thread Mark Roberts

Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Some other questions you can ask yourself could be:

How can I, through my selection, show how politically correct I am?
Which photograph can I choose that will show my obvious superior taste,
intelligence, and impress the group?

LOL! Too true!

I've seen a lot of photos that I liked a lot over the years.  Picking my
favorite would be impossible. But, if I  could choose, what would it mean?

That you were willing to risk scorn and ridicule on the PDML? G Oh wait, we do
that all the time anyway! Never mind.

Everyone has their own opinion, anyway.

Perhaps, if the question was, What is your favorite photo of all those you
have taken? the question would have more meaning.  Then again, maybe not.

I think it would if you explained *why* it's your favorite photo. I suspect the
explanations would be more revealing than the photographs.

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RE: Introduction

2001-11-02 Thread Mark Roberts

Glad to have you aboard!

Hi all,

just allow me to introduce myself. My name is Paul Delcour, 41, choir 
conductor and arranger and composer of choir music (nothing orchestral

to avoid misunderstandings). Since the age of about 9 I had my own 
camera. In 1978 I bought my first real camera a Pentax K2 black. I still
have it and still use it and wouldn't want to part with it, although I

would like more light measurement options and maybe AF. But it's a great
body, robust and never failed me. 

I agree on the K2 (I'd love to have a black one). The only other Pentax
that matches it for solid feel is the new MZ-S (even though it's much lighter).


During the years I acquired:
17/3.5 Tokina (only some months ago and the only non-Pentax one)
24/2.6 (great!)
35/3.5 (seldom used)
50/1.7 (great!)
85/1.8 (possibly my favourite!)
100/4.0 macro (seldom used)
200.4.0 (not often used)
converter 2x Pentax
bellows with 100 (never used...)
Metz 60 (previous a 45) flashlight (great though clumsy and heavy)

You're a brave man mentioning that you have a 35/3.5 and seldom use it.
Prepare to be innundated with emails offering to buy it!

Welcome to the list.



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Re: Getting better lenses for my MZ5?

2001-11-02 Thread Mark Roberts

The FA*24/2.0 is a fabulous lens (my favorite) but the FA-28/2.8AL is a real
sleeper. It doesn't have the glamour of the wide maximum aperture and it isn't
as big and impressive looking (small is sometimes better, though). If budget is
a concern the 28 and the 100/3.5 macro would be a great pair. Any of the 50mm
lenses are excellent.
If price is no object, get the 31mm and 77mm Limited lenses. Hell, get the
43/1.9 as well ;-)

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Re: AF280T Flash (reposted forgot subject sorry)

2001-11-04 Thread Mark Roberts

Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I haven't got it but I've seen lots of people say how good it is and it
has a useful feature if you do the occasional macro shot - the head
will tilt down by 5 degrees (I think - it could be slightly more) so
you can leave the flash mounted on the hotshoe and still have it
illuminate the subject.

Tilts down by 15 degrees.


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Re: Windows Maintenance (was Windows XP - Scary! )

2001-11-11 Thread Mark Roberts

John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

One more thing I am tempted to do is to designate a newly acquired 4-gig drive 
as a permanent data file drive, and just have the main system holding OS and 
programs - that may well give me a faster system, as the amount of file rewrite 
on such a setup should be much lower, particularly if I set up the TEMP system 
variable to point to the data drive. Anyone know for sure whether Win98 and 
later use this setting in the same way as the original DOS systems?

Partitioning is good. Separate physical drives are even better!

I have one 15 gig (the smallest I could get at the time!) just for my operating
system. My other (bigger) hard drive is partitioned so that I have one logical
drive just for my applications, another for data files and a couple of assorted
others for various specific uses like building a CD-ROM image before burning the
CD itself, mirrors of a couple of web sites I maintain, etc., etc.

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Re: Which body would you BUY today ?

2001-11-08 Thread Mark Roberts

Mike Johnston wrote:
 
 This is not an official survey question, but after pondering Martin's
 question I'm just curious as to what people think...
 
 If you had to BUY only one Pentax body today, to use for your photography,
 cost aside, what would you choose?

Cost aside? 
I'd put a deposit on the upcoming Uber-Flagship/LX-II that Pål's predicting
for next year ;-)

(Of course, by then, the MZ-Digital may be back on the production schedule.)


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Obligatory fall foliage photo

2001-11-08 Thread Mark Roberts

This was taken last Saturday around 7:30 a.m.
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d105230.jpg

Warning: It's big (115k)
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Re: Obligatory fall foliage photo

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Roberts

Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark,

I like it!  It really makes me feel something.  I like the hazy
feeling.  The joggers provide good balance.  The composition is nice.
 The only detractor for me was the top right corner where there is an
 out-of-focus branch that is somewhat distracting.  This would have
 made a nice PUG entry

Yeah, that branch bothers me as well. You have no idea how I maneuvered all
around that bridge (the one from which I took the photo) trying to keep those
branches out. I hate to crop it. Maybe I'll photoshop it out.

P.S. MZ-S with FA*80-200/2.8 (@200mm) 1/45sec f4.0 (I opened the slide mount to
get the exposure data ;-)

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Re: Obligatory fall foliage photo

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Roberts

OK, version 2.0 is on line: sans branch,
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RE: I'm becoming disillusioned with= 20Sigma

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Roberts

Kent Gittings wrote:

Yes both Sigma and Tokina have stopped production of those 2. As a result
members of both the Pentax and Minolta lists I'm on are scrambling to find
either of these 2 late models before they disappear entirely. Some countries
already have no stock left. Either lens is definitely better than the Sigma
135-400 and 400mm. All this in spite of the fact that shooters like Art
Morris say every one shooting wildlife should have one in their inventory
of this size.

It's a shame to see lenses like this going away. Sigma seems to be the only
3rd party lens manufacturer serious about making prime lenses at all these
days (I love my 300/2.8). Anyone heard if their recent 100-300/4.0 is any
good? It's one of their EX series so I expect it's pricey but it looks like
a useful zoom range and reasonably fast aperture.

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Re: Windows XP - Scary! (Was=3 D3 A OT: A computer question...)

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Roberts

Top Ten Rejected Marketing Slogans for Windows XP:

10  Ooh, Look! It's Shiny! 

 9  Does a Little More, Sucks a Little Less 

 8  Now with Tailfins! 

 7  Anti-Trust-Free Since 2001 

 6  Screens of Death in All the Colors of the Rainbow! 

 5  Look, lemmings -- a Cliff! 

 4  Where Do You Want Your KY Today? 

 3  We're Microsoft -- Stay on Our Good Side 

 2  Invest in America! Purchase a Completely Unneeded Upgrade Now! It'll
Drive the Taliban NUTS! 

 1  What Else Ya Gonna Do, Buy a Mac, You Artsy-Fartsy Little Weenie? 



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Re: Pentax AF 1.7 converter

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Roberts

John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:33:04 -, you wrote:

I won one for $104.50 on eBay in EX+ shape. Is that a good price?

It's about a standard price for one in that condition. Not a bargain,
but not overpriced either.

I bought one five years ago, and another one about six months ago.
Both of them were second-hand, in good condition, and they cost about
$100 each.

KEH gets about $120.00 for ones in EX/EX+ condition.

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Re: Kodak Paper,off my list

2001-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts

David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In my quest to find a back up paper from the 
Canon Photo Paper Pro, i tried the Kodak Ultimate
paper yesterday.Package say's for ALL ink jest 
printers.Not the BJC8200.The page i printed took
about 25 minuites to dry to touch and any greenish
pigment came out in a mosaic type pattern.
My supply of Canon paper arrived to day but the 
search continues.
Mike suggested the Epson Matte,if i can find some
i'll try it.

I will attest to the fact that the Kodak Ultima paper sucks in my Epson 1270
printer as well.

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Re: Cleaning/oiling shutter mechanism

2001-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts

Signature Sound [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a Pentax ME Super.  I know it is not the most revered Pentax 

Far from the least revered, though. Great little camera!

However, I believe that the shutter mechanism is now in need of oiling.  It
seems to be over-exposing at the faster shutter speeds.

Yikes! Oiling is the *last* thing that you should do to a shutter! Gives the
same effect as oil on lens diaphragm blades: Makes it stick.

Is this something I can do myself and if so, how and with what lubricant?

Nope. Shutter probably needs adjustment. A regular CLA (Cleaning, Lubrication -
of the camera as a whole, not the shutter! - and Adjustment) should take care of
it.

If not, can anyone suggest a good camera repair company or individual
somewhere close to New York City?  Pentax say that they no longer support
this model and none of their service centers will touch it, so if I can't do
it myself, I need a talented independent.  I don't want to trust this camera
to someone who doesn't know what they are doing or just doesn't give a damn.

Shel compiled a list of repair shops and has it on the web at: 
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html


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Re: A Nice Thing Happened

2001-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts

Tom,

Having seen your aurora photos I'm not at all surprised at their reaction.

Congratulations!

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RE: Cannon 2400UF Scanner

2001-11-12 Thread Mark Roberts

Bob Rapp wrote:

Has anyone had experience or seen any comments about Cannon's 2400UF
scanner. Is said to scan anything up to 4X5 negatives. I have though about
using a scanner to proof my BW negatives.
Also, has anyone used a scanner as a transmission densitometer?

I can't comment on anything except your idea of using the scanner to proof
BW negatives, which is what I do. It has some disadvantages over a contact
sheet (you can't judge the exposure of one negative as compared to another
very well) but I find they're far outweighed by the advantages. By scanning
my negatives I can judge which ones are worth printing and by working with
the contrast and brightness settings in photoshop I can work out a great
deal of what needs to be done in the darkroom. I find it has *drastically*
cut down the amount of time I need to spend in the darkroom to get a good
print (and since I pay by the hour for darkroom time, this is a real money
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Re: OT:free sites to post pictures ??

2001-11-12 Thread Mark Roberts

Cotty wrote:

If you have Photoshop 6 (I don't know about earlier versions) it will

automatically prepare a website of images which you can just upload.

Maris

5.5 does that too.

Anyone know if version 6.0 does it any *better* than 5.5? I'd really like
to be able to customize the HTML output a little.



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Re: Transferable knowledge

2001-11-12 Thread Mark Roberts

Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

One of the Leica ads has this copy If you can see, you can also take
pictures. But learning to see may take a long time.

Europeans always seem to create the best advertising slogans (although that
Leice one sounds distinctly Zen). I remember one for Peugeot that I really
liked: It *looks* like an ordinary bicycle
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Re: www.pdml.net getting worse

2001-11-12 Thread Mark Roberts

Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's a conspiracy. There are dozens of computer operators sitting 
around waiting for a search request to come down the pipe. When it 
does, they choose which of the messages shall be returned with 
full text and which only get the headline treatment. What's really 
impressive is that this is all done in a matter of tenths of 
seconds. These are highly skilled conspirators, able to discern 
which search terms are more important to you, based entirely on 
the way you enter them. The more important terms, as you have no 
doubt noticed, are those that only return titles.

You forgot to mention that the conspiritors are stationed in satellites
positioned in geosynchronous orbits.

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RE: Eveready Case for K1000

2001-11-13 Thread Mark Roberts

Just listed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1297161301

It's being sold by Henry's Camera of Toronto. I've bought several items
from them on eBay and found them very good to deal with.

-- Original Message --

Hi,

I sent this several weeks ago.  Thought I'd try again.  I'm looking for
an
Eveready case for a K1000.  I've looked on e-bay.

Does anyone have one they would like to sell?

Does anyone know what other K-series cases would fit a K1000?

Thanks.

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RE: Miracles happens (was shit hap pens)

2001-11-13 Thread Mark Roberts

Congratulations Albano!
Great story (and a happy ending, no less)

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Re: Vivitar extension tubes

2001-11-13 Thread Mark Roberts

Timothy Sherburne wrote:
 
 Does anyone have experience with Vivitar's K-mount auto extension tube
 set? What's the quality like?
 
 I'd prefer Pentax, but the price of Vivitar's set is about 1/3 that of
 a new Pentax set.

I've had both and I can assure you that there's no functional or performance
difference. The Pentax ones were cosmetically a little nicer but only enough
to be worth a few dollars extra, not 3 times the price. I suppose the Pentax
ones might be higher spec. as far as parallelism of the front and rear mounts
is concerned but I think you'd have to be doing extremely high magnification
of perfectly flat subjects to notice any difference. If there is any.

Definitely go for the Vivitar: Put aside the money you save for film, processing
or a nice new lens.



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Re: Remembrance day - some pics up

2001-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts

Nicw shots, Cotty.

Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In case anyone gives a wotsits bottom, I've put a few pics up of a 
Remembrance Day service here in the UK on Sunday.

http://www.macads.co.uk/pentax

click on the 'remembrance day' link on the left...

Cheers,

Cotty

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Re: Vivitar extension tubes

2001-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts

Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And having compared the two side-by-side, can you tell us 
specifically what the differences are in the fit and finish?

I've owned both but never at the same time, so it's not quite a side by side
comparison, but the Pentax tubes have a nice textured (anodized, I believe)
black finish. I think the Vivitars are just painted black. Quite nice but not as
nice as the Pentax.

And, more importantly, what the differences are in the resulting image?

None at all.


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Re: WARNING: OT: Re: Points of Order

2001-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts

John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:00:16 -0600 (CST), you wrote:

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Of course the question comes to mind, if a digital file has an almost
  infinate data life, what difference does digital print life make?
 
 I can see one: my CD-R/RW disks may not be playable in twenty years ala 
 8-track tapes.

Last Friday I finally got all my 78 rpm records transferred to 8-track
tapes. So what's next?

Getting your 8-tracks dubbed onto Elcassette, of course!
(Anyone actually remember that abortion from the 70's: a cassette that
contained 1/4-inch tape?)

...either that or the Philips DCC digital cassette!

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Re: Digital SLR?

2001-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts

J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What's the latest rumor on a Pentax digital SLR?
Cant wait to mount my SMCTs on that baby.

My information from the industry is that Philips isn't making the chip at the
moment; for economic rather than technical reasons, though. The semiconductor
industry is suffering its worst slump in over 20 years and the fabs (at least
those of giants like Philips) are turning out only parts that will sell in big
numbers. 
The business is in a scary state at the moment. Many people think AMD won't
survive at all (my guess is Via for a buyer). Motorola just sold off their
*entire* RF power MOSFET line to M/A-COM (including all the manufacturing
equipment from their fabs). Rumor is that Motorola is going to dump *all* their
remaining semiconductor divisions (LDMOS and microprocessors included) before
long.
When the semiconductor industry pulls out of recession you'll likely see
announcements that 6-megapixel full-frame digicams are on the way. Not until
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RE: WHY NOT A NUMBERED INDEX??=3 F

2001-11-15 Thread Mark Roberts

MacBurt wrote:

Several times I've written and asked why this site cannot use a numbered
index. It is easier to look at a numbered index and then find a numbered
entry. It is easier then attempting to read similiar entries from a long
list, unnumbered.

List maintainer Doug Brewer answered you at least once. Basically, it's
beyond the constraints imposed by his already stretched time and money budgets
for keeping the list going.



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Re: WHY NOT A NUMBERED INDEX??=3 F

2001-11-15 Thread Mark Roberts

Bill Owens wrote:

MacBurt wrote:
 WHY CANT WE LOOK LIKE THIS???

 BECAUSE DOUG DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME OR FUNDS TO DO THIS.

NOT BAD BILL BUT YOU SHOULDA USED SOME EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!

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Re: Critique request

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts

Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If anyone has the time I'd appreciate any critique on the following image:

http://www.photocritique.net/g/s?00n2Vn

Lovely shot. Beautiful lighting. What lens did you use?
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Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts

Francis Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:49:22PM +1300, David A. Mann wrote:
  Plus, unlike the Nikon/Canon behemoths they've actually made it look quite 
 compact.

Maybe the pictures just shows it with a very big lens

I think all the AF Contax lenses are pretty huge, aren't they?

BTW: When I first heard that this camera was to be available in February I
thought -- just for a moment -- mybe... But then I thought about lenses. Not
the quality, just the selection or lack thereof. Not only are the lenses for the
Contax very expensive, there are very few to choose from. Perhaps there'll be
some 3rd party lenses available in Contax mount after this camera hits the
market? (If this camera doesn't do it nothing will!)

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RE: Watermarks

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts

What is the thinking on watermarking web images?
~Any~ images?

Yes or No?

I do it for my web images using the Digimarc watermark built into Photoshop,
but I realize it's only good for catching the most ignorant image pirate;
there's plenty of free watermark-removal software available. Do a web search
for unzign, for example. There are others. Every one I've tried works
:(

Since the watermarks are so easy to remove, don't even think about *paying*
for watermarking software.


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RE: First 6-mp full-frame digital= 20SLR is out

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts

Rob Brigham wrote:

Surely you wouldnt market a camera when you could not get the parts
anymore even before it is launched?

Oh yes they would! RD on this baby cost a fortune and it's time to get
some of that back. Contax is rumoured to be in dire financial straits and
some kind of return is crucial.

This would be commercial suicide:

1  if they sell like hotcakes you cant supply any more.

Having demand exceed supply is a *good* thing. harley-Davidson has used
this to keep prices up for years in a price-competitive market.

2  if there are problems, you cannot get components to repair them
under warranty and have to refund your customers money.

Keeping stock for spares would be part of the original purchase plan. Always
is.

I would guess that either Philips has some exclusive deal with Contax
and cannot supply anyone else, or they were already contractually
obliged to supply Contax but they are making a loss on the product so
dont want to supply anyone else, or Contax are buying as much stock as
they can produce so there is none to supply to anyone else, or Contax
havent been told that Philips have ceased supply.

I just cant believe Contax would issue this release unless they had an
ongoing supply of these parts...

I'm *certain* they would, *especially* if they've already invested a fortune
in buying these devices for current production, but I also believe that
Philips will be building these parts again within a year. If the February
release date gets puched back at all, the Contax probably won't be widely
available for quite a while.





 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 November 2001 02:00
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out
 
 
 Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 15 Nov 2001, at 14:19, Rob Brigham wrote:
 
  And at $6500 US!
  
  This is inside the tantaive price spoken by Pentax for the MZ-D.
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 Pentax never made claims about the price, the figure that 
 was floating about 
 was a speculated price only based on the cost of one off CCD 
 purchase that 
 was printed in one of the French photo magazines.
 
  Sounds like Pentax had a change of heart then, because the 
 sensor is
  obviously available, and it can be done for the money that 
 was rumoured.
 
 The CCD has been confirmed to be unavailable as per Mark 
 Roberts reports 
 to the list, the information is straight from Philips AFAIK.
 
 Well, Philips *says* it IS available...but I got the infinite 
 runaround when
 trying to get information on procuring any for my company. My 
 surmise is that
 it's in the catalog but they aren't building them now for 
 financial reasons (no
 matter how expensive it is, it won't sell in sufficient 
 volume to be worthwhile
 for them at the moment).
 
 If the Contax is really in production, they may have already 
 purchased what they
 needed for the initial build. Who knows. Let's see what 
 happens in February.
 

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Re: Watermarks

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts

SudaMafud wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Since the watermarks are so easy to remove, don't even think about *paying*
 for watermarking software

I didn't know they could (can) be removed so easily.

Most people don't and the watermark software people obviously keep pretty
quiet about it.

I have a program: All Thumbs which has a watermark utility built-in.

Thanks to you, I don't think I'll bother.

Doesn't do any *harm* to add a watermark. Maybe a slight loss of image quality
but certainly not a big deal for web use (which is where virtually all image
theft takes place).



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Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts

Tom Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I sure agree with you Mark. Now the real question, are Pentax marketing
droids as smart as you and I?

I think they'd have to be blind and deaf not to see the writing on the wall and
hear the fat lady, well, warming up, at least.

By next year, lack of a digital camera to convince the public of the Pentax
line's long-term viability will start to hurt sales of the MZ-S. It may be
hurting sales already. I probably wouldn't have committed myself to Pentax's
lens line to the extent I have this past year if I hand't thought my gear would
be compatible with an upcoming digital body. I certainly wouldn't have spent a
thousand dollars on a new body (MZ-S) to go with my existing lenses if I thought
I'd have to replace them soon to go with a different brand digital SLR. I just
bought Ed Mathews 43/1.9 Limited but that's going to be my last Pentax lens or
body purchase until I'm confident that there'll be a compatible digital body in
the near future. I can't afford to go down a dead end path. (I don't think I am,
by the way; I'm just being cautious.)

2002 will be the crunch year. Any camera manufacturer without a digital body for
it's 35mm lens line will be getting out of the 35mm SLR business whether they
want to or not. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Minolta. I haven't
heard anything about them producing a digital body for their system. Will they
be content with point-and-shoot film cameras and high-end all-in-one digicams?
Might not be a bad way to go from a profit standpoint. But because of this
uncertainty, right now I wouldn't even *think* of buying a high-end Minolta body
unless I already had a huge investment in Minolta lenses. Even then, I'd think
very hard first.

I think the main market for the Contax digital SLR isn't people just getting
into a high end 35mm system or even the people who already have the Contax N1:
I'll bet it's the professionals now working with the Contax 645. It's a
relatively inexpensive (compared to a medium format digital back!) way for them
to add digital to their repertoir because it will accept all the Contax 645
lenses they already own.

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Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Roberts

Yes, that's wild speculation. But it's more realistic sounding than *any* other
scenarios I've heard ;-) Time to wait and see.

Kristian Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
wild-speculation
It's possible that Contax are doing what Apple did when they launched 
the PowerMac G4 desktop in September 1999: basically, Apple didn't have 
an agreed supply of G4 processors for the computer, and their main 
supplier, Motorola, couldn't guarantee adequate yields until January 
2000. Apple, not wanting to lose sales in their busiest quarter, decided 
to use the couple of thousand validation samples they had got from 
Motorola previously, and use them to build machines. When these dried 
up, it was very difficult to get a G4 Mac until Motorola came up with 
the goods on schedule the following January (Apple, of course, blamed 
Moto for delivering late when in fact they were a couple of weeks early, 
but that's Steve Jobs for you...).

If you assume that Philips are at the very best deferring the volume 
manufacture of the 6Mp chip until late 2002, and if you compare the kind 
of volume that Contax will be shipping next year compared with what 
Pentax would be expecting, it's obvious that of the two companies, only 
the low-volume, premium-price manufacturer (Contax) could get away with 
building a few hundred units with pre-production samples, and charging 
more for the camera to keep demand down.

If the N-1 uses the new Contax lens mount, then the pent-up demand is 
going to be low enough anyway, unlike the deluge that would descend on a 
K-mount digital SLR. Who knows, maybe Pentax made a few quid by selling 
their initial stock of the chips to Kyocera...?

I think we'll see a 4-5Mp reduced-frame SLR from Pentax early next year 
using most of the parts from the MZ-D, and then the real deal by 
mid-2003, most likely at higher resolution, considering Moore's Law.
/wild-speculation

Total value : EUR 0.02 ;-)

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Re: First 6-mp full-frame digital SLR is out

2001-11-17 Thread Mark Roberts

Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:12:44 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:

I certainly wouldn't have spent a
thousand dollars on a new body (MZ-S) to go with my existing lenses if I thought
I'd have to replace them soon to go with a different brand digital SLR. I just
bought Ed Mathews 43/1.9 Limited but that's going to be my last Pentax lens or
body purchase until I'm confident that there'll be a compatible digital body in
the near future. I can't afford to go down a dead end path. (I don't think I am,
by the way; I'm just being cautious.)

I feel exactly the same, I was planning on buying the 3-lens limited set (31, 43 and 
77)
for my MZ-3 / PZ1 / LX,  and waiting for the MZ-D to use them on later.
I will certainly wait for a formal announcement of a new Pentax Digital SLR now!

I'm sure we're not the only ones who have deferred purchases until the situation
is clarified.

I hope it will be a 4 to 5Mp, with a focal-multiplier of 1.3 or 1.4.
If that is offered for US $3000 to $3500 with other specs comparable to the MZ-D,
I will get one for sure ...

I won't buy one until full-frame version is available, but the release of any
digital SLR - even with a smaller-than-full-frame CCD - would give me enough
confidence to resume buying Pentax gear in general (a 15mm would be first on my
list: I would have killed for one today!)

What's interesting is that within two or three years we'll see people just
getting into photography (just getting serious about it, anyway) *starting out*
with a digital SLR, having moved up from an all-in-one digicam. Then later, when
they consider *film* (it'll happen eventually!), they'll look for a film camera
that's compatible with the lenses they already have for their digital. Just the
opposite of the situation we have now.

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Re: OT: I just got engaged

2001-11-17 Thread Mark Roberts

Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nate asked me to marry him tonight

Wow! This guy was in even more of a hurry than Mr. Jeepgirl!

and I accepted. :)

So the honeymoon begins tomorrow?
;-)

Congrats

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