Re: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
ebay is a great way to get around shipping restrictions on liquid chemicals. I bought a liquid c41 kit off there, when bh and freestyle said they wouldn't ship liquid kits. - Original Message - From: Michael Keller m.w.kel...@verizon.net To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:31 PM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome B H Photo Video has the P30 chemistry kit for $46.99, but it says that due to shipping regs they can't ship it at this time, you have to buy in the store. Hmmm. Calumet has it for $41.95 and says nothing about shipping. http://www.calumetphoto.com Mike Keller http://www.mikekellerphoto.com Don't let your mouth write no check your tail can't cash. - Bo Diddley -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Bill Erickson Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:27 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome I want to use ilfochrome paper for direct positive prints. I have experience with RA-4 processing in a JOBO. I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller processers. Anybody with more information? ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
B H Photo Video has the P30 chemistry kit for $46.99, but it says that due to shipping regs they can't ship it at this time, you have to buy in the store. Hmmm. Calumet has it for $41.95 and says nothing about shipping. http://www.calumetphoto.com Mike Keller http://www.mikekellerphoto.com Don't let your mouth write no check your tail can't cash. - Bo Diddley -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Bill Erickson Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:27 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome I want to use ilfochrome paper for direct positive prints. I have experience with RA-4 processing in a JOBO. I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller processers. Anybody with more information?
Re: [pinhole-discussion] 120 camera conversion
Hi all, Des cliques et des claques... for French speaking pinholists ! 1) For converting a Agfa Clack into a pinhole camera, just have a look at the following site : http://www.kosara.net/photo/lochlomo.html The loch lomo page (it is as a joke) is full of info and plans for doing easily this conversion ! 2) About the Agfa Click, as Mike wrote, it is a plastic camera but it was not ony sold in France. Actually there has been 2 models of Click : Clicks I and Clicks II were built from 1958 until 1970, mainly in Germany. For some time an Agfa factory located in Strasbourg (France, at the border with Germany) built some Click I cameras. This French production was motivated by trying to escape the tariff barriers which, at the end of the 50 ies prevented entrance of foreign cameras in France ... The French models are heavier than the German ones because a small piece of metal had been added inside just to make them weight a little more : weight was considered as a sign of seriousness by French consumers ! Another difference is the presence of a small plate Fabriqué en France on the Strasbourg models . Well, all this historical stuff is not so important! Just get a Click or a Clack, and turn it into a pleasant pinhole camera and have fun with it... Hope it helps Cheers from France Jean - Original Message - From: Mike Vande Bunt mike.vandeb...@mixcom.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 120 camera conversion Gregory Parkinson wrote: These are fun cameras. There's also the Agfa Click which I think is the same but 6x6. The information that I have seen is that the Click (supposedly only sold originally in France) was made of plastic and is of about the same quality as the Holga. The Clack was made of metal and was better quality. Prepared for some pretty fuzzy images. Mine didn't show the center sharpness that my Dianas have. My Clack had very good sharpness on the one roll of film that I ran through it. I can't compare it with my Diana since the Diana has a faulty shutter... Mike Vande Bunt ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] New very slow film
Hi all ! I know that among our lensless community, we are numerous to have a strong sympathy for slow or ultra-slow films which, combined with the specificities of pinhole photography, allow us to experiment new dimensions of time, duration,etc. Unfortunately, slow films are not so numerous and we just lost one of them : Agfapan 25, since Agfa officially announced its definitive discontinuation. I really loved it and was not far from thinking that it was the best film ... And now arrives a completely new product which seems to have astonishing characteristics : Gigabit film. I suggest you to have a look at http://www.gigabitfilm.de/ where you will find all info about this astonishing product (some pages or translated in English, I believe). And if you want to try it, you will find the address of the different importers for various countries. I have not yet tried it but hope to do it soon. Film is sold with its developer and it seems to me very, very expensive... But it seems that the quality of the film is worth a good try ! Hope it helps, cheers from France Jean
[pinhole-discussion] Ilfochrome
I want to use ilfochrome paper for direct positive prints. I have experience with RA-4 processing in a JOBO. I can't seem to find the processing chemicals for ilfochrome in any sort of volumes practical for 'wet lab' home processing. It looks like the chemicals are only packaged in larger quantities designed for roller processers. Anybody with more information?
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Micro or macro photo with pinhole photo
At 05:26 PM 10/27/01 -0400, you wrote: For close up work just multiply your optimum pinhole size, obtained with any of the formulas available out there, by the correction factor: Correction factor = SQRT ( O / I + O ) where O = distance pinhole lens to object being photographed and I = distance pinhole lens to film SQRT stands for square root of Guillermo Guillermo, I don't remember ever seeing your correction formula before. Is that theoretical, or have you tested it? Gregg _ Pinhole Visions at http://www.??? Worldwide Pinhole Photograhy Day at http://www.pinholeday.org
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Micro or macro photo with pinhole photo
- Original Message - From: Richard Heather rheat...@slonet.org See the pinhole size calculator at Pinhole Visions: (Larry Bullis) http://www.???/resources/articles/makingholes.php Guillermo's page: http://members.home.net/penate/pinsize.htm There are various calculations that are based on the assumption that you will shoot at infinity. For close up views a smaller hole will give sharper results. For close up work just multiply your optimum pinhole size, obtained with any of the formulas available out there, by the correction factor: Correction factor = SQRT ( O / I + O ) where O = distance pinhole lens to object being photographed and I = distance pinhole lens to film SQRT stands for square root of Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] aaaaaaarrgg!!!
Thanks for the tip, Larry! It'll help in the future. :) From: larrybul...@netscape.net Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:48:33 -0400 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] aaarrgg!!! R Duarte ra...@rahji.com wrote: public pool that i broke into, etc. etc. um, the film wasn't loaded correctly and none of the 36 exposures actually happened. let me tell you, i feel like demolishing a few buildings myself right now. that'll teach me to stick with pinhole :) My students do this all the time, so we talk about it the first class session, and they still do it. You have to watch to see if the rewind is turning as you advance the film. If it's not, you most likely have a problem. This is true regardless if the camera has a lens or a pinhole. __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
Nancy Spencer is using a similar fixer on negative or print in her series from Greece seen in the Pinhole Journal...Renee
[pinhole-discussion] Re: Merlin cameras
I am using the Merlin paint can cameras for teaching college students and it is terrific. Renee
RE: [pinhole-discussion] aaaaaaarrgg!!!
R Duarte ra...@rahji.com wrote: public pool that i broke into, etc. etc. um, the film wasn't loaded correctly and none of the 36 exposures actually happened. let me tell you, i feel like demolishing a few buildings myself right now. that'll teach me to stick with pinhole :) My students do this all the time, so we talk about it the first class session, and they still do it. You have to watch to see if the rewind is turning as you advance the film. If it's not, you most likely have a problem. This is true regardless if the camera has a lens or a pinhole. __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
[pinhole-discussion] Re: Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
I think the Sally Man article was in Aperture a few years back. Rusty someone correct me if I am wrong here, but I cant recall which magazine it was, either View Camera, or Camera Arts, but there was an article done on Sally Mann's works, and I paraphrase here, but she used a 8X10 camera set up on cinder (concrete)blocks to hold the camera steady, used old soft portrait lenses that many of the old studios were discarding( Verito Professionals maybe (?) ) and if memory serves me , she toned her prints in a dilute mixture of brewed teas/coffees, to give the prints a sepia effect, anyone else recall this anecdote ?
[pinhole-discussion] aaaaaaarrgg!!!
so i went to the photographica show at waltham (massachusetts) high school this morning. bought a bunch of stuff.. a polaroid land camera, a couple cable releases, some developing tanks and reels, a viewmaster(tm), etc. i also bought a manual 35mm SLR for my girlfriend. bought some film. spent the rest of the day taking pictures with that camera before i give it to her. oh, pictures of things like a building being demolished, a closed down public pool that i broke into, etc. etc. um, the film wasn't loaded correctly and none of the 36 exposures actually happened. let me tell you, i feel like demolishing a few buildings myself right now. that'll teach me to stick with pinhole :) rob
[pinhole-discussion] Sally Mann
As far as I know Sally Mann has been using the Collodion process using an 8 X 10 or larger view camera. Collodion negatives are a traditional photo process (late 1860s) using glass plates coated with a sticky substance-collodion-- and just prior to exposure soaked in a silver nitrate solution. The negative has to be developed immediately after exposure. Much of the wonderful weirdness of her images has to do with the contrariness of the medium plus the use of old, broken and improper size lenses. If any has more information or corrections please chime in. She learned the technique from Mark France Osterman who are exhibiting their Ambrotypes at Gallery One, New England School of Photography, Boston. You can call: 617 437-1868, web site: www.nesop.com Sorry for diverting from p at ???ments Rusty
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Micro or macro photo with pinhole photo
See the pinhole size calculator at Pinhole Visions: (Larry Bullis) http://www.???/resources/articles/makingholes.php Guillermo's page: http://members.home.net/penate/pinsize.htm There are various calculations that are based on the assumption that you will shoot at infinity. For close up views a smaller hole will give sharper results. Richard Heather luciana napchan wrote: Richard, What do you mean by the optimum size ? Thank you so much for all of you, it really helped me :-) From: Richard Heather Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Micro or macro photo with pinhole photo Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:44:45 -0700 Use as large a negative as possible. 8x10 11x14 paper. Use a pinhole smaller than the optimum ( for infinity) size. Richard Heather luciana napchan wrote: Thank you for your response But I did not want a wide angle image, so for instance, if I want to make images of fruits, with a 6X9 120mm film, is my image going to be distorces ? How can I have a normal image for a 120mm film ? I do have a zero 6x9 camera and thinking to built a 4X5 one Thank you so much Luciana
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
The article was in the Sept./Oct. 1999 isue of View Camera Magazine. Title: Sally Mann -I Was Aware Of the Ghosts
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
Hi leezy, Perhaps I should experiment with paper and see what happens. I guess that what I would do is to place the exposed sheet of paper in-and-out of the fix bath, then rince it for 10-to-20 minutes, then put it in the developper bath. Whatever amount of silver halyde which has not been fixed during the brief plunge in the fix would then be developped, while the rest would stay clear. Interesting idea. I'll report when I have had a chance to try it, perhaps this weekend. Cheers, Guy b2myo...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/27/01 2:16:33 AM, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: Hmmm... That sounds very interesting. Do you have more information on what she does exactly? Is anybody on the list familiar with doing this? I'd like to try that. Seems that it would fit with my current work. Cheers, Guy I'm interested in this too. Any information that can be provided will be greatly appreciated... or the source for the information. Thank you. leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
Leezy: and others I heard about the fixer technique and the teas so both have some validity... The fixer might have been used but not as heavily Wendy Wendy Garfinkel Garfinkel Design 185 Shadow Moss Drive Athens, GA 30605-3467 === phone: (706) 369-6831 fax: (706) 369-1761
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
Yes I too remember the tea as well...I know about this as I was fascinated by the Motherland Series and inquired to a teacher about this and she knew alot about these images... Wendy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
Hi Guy: Yes. I heard about this (fixing tequnique) through a photo teacher of mine. Best I can say is to experiment. You may want to try diluting it. I think at times one can put too much of the fixer on and then it looks like fixer is there (when you know) I have a letter, in my files here - I have to look for it from Nancy Renner who also used this technique on her negs. This is even featured in her photos in one of the magazines that she and Eric put outPinhole Journal called Millennia - images from Greece and Turkey. Wendy Garfinkel Wendy Garfinkel Garfinkel Design 185 Shadow Moss Drive Athens, GA 30605-3467 === phone: (706) 369-6831 fax: (706) 369-1761
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
In a message dated 10/27/01 2:16:33 AM, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: Hmmm... That sounds very interesting. Do you have more information on what she does exactly? Is anybody on the list familiar with doing this? I'd like to try that. Seems that it would fit with my current work. Cheers, Guy I'm interested in this too. Any information that can be provided will be greatly appreciated... or the source for the information. Thank you. leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Fixer on the negative (Was Re: Sally Mann)
someone correct me if I am wrong here, but I cant recall which magazine it was, either View Camera, or Camera Arts , but there was an article done on Sally Mann's works , and I paraphrase here, but she used a 8X10 camera set up on cinder (concrete )blocks to hold the camera steady, used old soft portrait lenses that many of the old studios were discarding( Verito Professionals maybe (?) ) and if memory serves me , she toned her prints in a dilute mixture of brewed teas/coffees, to give the prints a sepia effect, anyone else recall this anecdote ?
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Micro or macro photo with pinhole photo
That it is... I want to do closeups with a short sharpness area . So you want a small depth of field? You're out of luck with pinhole. Everything will be equally sharp... or unsharp.
