Re: [PLUG] Everything disappears SOLUTION
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 08:09:18PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:49:25 -0700 Dick Steffens d...@dicksteffens.com dijo: If you only use one workspace shouldn't you be able to set the number of workspaces to one? Then there wouldn't be another workspace to which to go. And if you ever needed more workspaces you could change the setting again. That already occurred to me. But I keep thinking that I should get used to using more than one workspace. Real Linux people do. I assume they find some advantage to doing so. Yeah, it works for them. But if you don't need it and you get along fine then don't do it. Real Linux people do what works for them. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Linux: The OS people choose without $200,000,000 of persuasion. ~ Mike Coleman ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] The real yellow pages
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:29:58AM -0700, Brian Martin wrote: I'm soliciting opinions here. My annual contract for a yellow pages listing is up for renewal. It's costing me over $400/year for some additional classifications and such. I also get a listing in their on-line yellow pages as part of the package. I don't know that I've ever gotten work from any of it, and I'm inclined to drop it altogether. What do you think? If you are a business owner today, do you still find value in phone book listings? As a consumer I know it has been several years since I looked into the yellow pages for anything. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Real men program in solder. ~ Keith Lofstrom ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ownerships and permissions mess
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 09:30:56AM -0500, David Fleck wrote:
On 08/08/2013 06:47 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Is there a way to do a ls command and have it sort by date of creation?
Try
ls -lrt
Creation?
That isn't available in contemporary *nix, including Linuxes.
ctime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stat_(Unix)
ctime originally meant creation time,[8] however it has since been
used almost always to refer to change time. It is updated any time
file content changes (together with mtime), and also by changes in
metadata such as file permissions, file ownership, and creation and
deletion of hard links. In some implementations, ctime is affected by
renaming a file (both original Unix and modern Linux tend to do this).
Unlike atime and mtime, ctime cannot be set to an arbitrary value
with utime() (as used e.g. by touch). Instead, when utime() is used,
the ctime value is set to the current time.
And this is confirmed by `man 2 stat`
All of these system calls return a stat structure, which contains the following
fields:
struct stat {
dev_t st_dev; /* ID of device containing file */
ino_t st_ino; /* inode number */
[ other stuff snipped ]
time_tst_atime; /* time of last access */
time_tst_mtime; /* time of last modification */
time_tst_ctime; /* time of last status change */
};
--
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Re: [PLUG] Urgent! Lost network connection after upgrade
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 10:37:00PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:08:57 -0700 Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.us dijo: #route add default gateway 192.168.0.1 SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable That indicates the first ifconfig did not set up the interface. What does `ifconfig eth0` show? #ifconfig eth0 eth0: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::21a:6bff:fed0:97fg prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20link ether 00:1a:6b:d0:97:f9 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) RX packets 525 bytes 53567 (52.3 KiB) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 1155 bytes 108172 (105.6 KiB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 device interrupt 20 memory 0xfe20-fe22 Note: there's no IPv4 address in that. For comparison: $ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:3e:42:d0:ce inet addr:173.246.104.35 Bcast:173.246.107.255 Mask:255.255.252.0 inet6 addr: 2604:3400:dc1:43:216:3eff:fe42:d0ce/64 Scope:Global inet6 addr: fe80::216:3eff:fe42:d0ce/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:33142106 errors:0 dropped:6 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:16240510 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:29821619951 (29.8 GB) TX bytes:7936335062 (7.9 GB) Interrupt:26 See how the second line lists the address? And yours does not. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: The best book on programming for the layman is Alice in Wonderland; but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman. ~ Alan Perlis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] False mailing list sign-ups
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 12:31:05AM -0700, Brian Martin wrote: Can someone explain this to me? I have a web-site where people can sign up to receive occasional e-mails. When they sign up, my code sends an e-mail to the given address asking for confirmation. Of course, if the e-mail address is invalid the confirmation bounces back to me as undeliverable. It appears that some sort of bot is occasionally filling out the form with a bad e-mail address. I get several bounces a week for what often look like outdated or made up addresses. Here are a few of the errors I get back from the the relevant mail servers: - Host or domain name not found. - No route to host - mailbox unavailable - This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account The site isn't very active and doesn't get many sign-ups at the moment. Pretty much all the sign-up activity is this sort of stuff. It happens too often to just be a case of someone mistyping their e-mail address (twice) when they sign up. I just retested the code using an external e-mail account, it works properly when given a valid e-mail address. My question is --- what's the point? Why is a bot interested in signing bad addresses (or any addresses, for that matter) up for a mailing list. I certainly haven't hired anyone to promote the site. Can anyone enlighten me as to the motivation behind this? The bot isn't parsing your form to see that you'll send an email to verify the address. It's just filling out the form and then, presumably, attempting further access on the site. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Don't think what is good for you is good for everyone. ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/25072010 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Urgent! Lost network connection after upgrade
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:17:45PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 20:36:58 -0700 Larry Brigman larry.brig...@gmail.com dijo: that was supposed to be two different commands: ifconfig eth0 blah blah blah and then route add blah blah blah OK: #ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 executed without error #ifconfig eth0 up executed without error ifconfig route add default gateway 192.168.0.1 John, not `ifconfig ...` just `sudo route add defaut gateway 192.168.0.1` or skip the sudo if you're root at the moment. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Discovery is not about seeking new lands. It's about seeing with new eyes. ~ Marcel Proust ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Urgent! Lost network connection after upgrade
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:51:33PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 21:34:07 -0700 Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.us dijo: #ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 executed without error #ifconfig eth0 up executed without error ifconfig route add default gateway 192.168.0.1 John, not `ifconfig ...` just `sudo route add defaut gateway 192.168.0.1` or skip the sudo if you're root at the moment. Ah. #route add default gateway 192.168.0.1 SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable That indicates the first ifconfig did not set up the interface. What does `ifconfig eth0` show? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Sometimes your only available transportation is a leap of faith. ~ Margaret Shepherd ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Yum is immortal
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:43:47PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: I tried kill -9 and got nowhere, but the 'ps aux | grep -i yum' command produced a fair list of processes. I killed them all, but 20774 was still running. Finally I used 'sudo kill -KILL 20774.' It executed without error and Yum is finally gone. Apparently -KILL is stronger than -9, or at least here it was. For future reference, from the kill man page: Name Num ActionDescription ... KILL 9 exit cannot be blocked -KILL and -9 are the same. sudo made the difference. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Winners are not those who never lose. They are those who never give up. ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/19012008 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] python boggle (resolved)
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:26:40PM -0700, Russell Johnson wrote: On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:55 AM, John Meissen j...@meissen.org wrote: Un-printable characters (including cr/lf) in the data read from the file? That was it. I looked at the file with vi after :set list, and it had a newline. I added: HOST_NAME = HOST_NAME[:-1] and now it works. And when someone edits the file and removes the newline it will break again. consider HOST_NAME.restrip() to remove any whitespace without touching your needed data. If this were Perl I'd say use chomp, but it's not. I found the suggestion on stackoverflow. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/275018/how-can-i-remove-chomp-a-newline-in-python -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: The basic currency of the Internet is human ignorance, and, frankly, our database holds a strong cash position! ~ http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-best-questions-for-first-dates/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] procmail recipe not catching a Dr.Oz - Solution
Thank you, helps a lot. Follow the flow and see Daniel's accurate, complete answer. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:03:00AM -0700, Daniel Hedlund wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.uswrote: A procmail recipe: :0 * ^From:.*Feed Blaster * ^From:.*Oz.*New * Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*DrOz $MAILDIR/.aspambin/ Is not catching email with: Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:06:16 +0300 From: Show-Dr.Oz Newsletter abvbbw...@alhippa.net Subject: Revealing the slim, trim body you've always wanted And I have verified that it is Oz and not 0z. (oh not zero) What do your eyes catch that I'm missing? Procmail recipes conditions are anded together, not ored. All of the above conditions would have to be true for the recipe to fire. See: http://www.perlcode.org/tutorials/procmail/proctut/proctip2.pod Two of the above conditions, the first and last, will fail to match if the email you're referring to is the same as: http://spamavert.com/mail/original/kj6bz/90380296 It's pretty easy to test procmail recipes on the command line. Assuming you have a minimal recipe file at ~/procmail-test/recipe-test.rc: MAILDIR=. DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox VERBOSE=on SHELL=/bin/sh :0 * ^From:.*Feed Blaster * ^From:.*Oz.*New * Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*DrOz $MAILDIR/spam Then you should be able to run the procmail command with -m recipe-test.rc and pipe any spam emails to it: $ cd ~/procmail-test $ procmail -m recipe-test.rc doz.txt ... procmail: No match on ^From:.*Feed Blaster procmail: Locking ./inbox.lock procmail: Opening ./inbox ... With the following conditions: :0 * ^From:.*Oz.*New * Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*Dr.*Oz $MAILDIR/spam $ procmail -m recipe-test.rc doz.txt ... procmail: Match on ^From:.*Oz.*New procmail: Match on Dr.*Oz procmail: Match on ^From:.*Dr.*Oz procmail: Assigning LASTFOLDER=./spam procmail: Opening ./spam ... Hope that helps. Cheers, Daniel Hedlund dan...@digitree.org ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: So Here's the clarinet Part in Bb (wimps! real klezmers transpose! or can't read at all) ~ Tom Puwalski ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] procmail recipe not catching a Dr.Oz
A procmail recipe: :0 * ^From:.*Feed Blaster * ^From:.*Oz.*New * Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*DrOz $MAILDIR/.aspambin/ Is not catching email with: Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:06:16 +0300 From: Show-Dr.Oz Newsletter abvbbw...@alhippa.net Subject: Revealing the slim, trim body you've always wanted And I have verified that it is Oz and not 0z. (oh not zero) What do your eyes catch that I'm missing? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Chains of habit are too light to be felt until they are too heavy to be broken. ~ Warren Buffett ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] procmail recipe not catching a Dr.Oz
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:25:51AM -0700, wes wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.uswrote: A procmail recipe: :0 * ^From:.*Feed Blaster * ^From:.*Oz.*New * Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*DrOz $MAILDIR/.aspambin/ Is not catching email with: Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:06:16 +0300 From: Show-Dr.Oz Newsletter abvbbw...@alhippa.net Subject: Revealing the slim, trim body you've always wanted And I have verified that it is Oz and not 0z. (oh not zero) What do your eyes catch that I'm missing? you don't have any trailing .*s to match the rest of the line? isn't it a substring match? forehead slap/ -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Some people worship the cookbook because they don't know how to cook. ~ Keith Loftstrom paraphrasing Guy Consolmagno, a monk and scientist with the Vatican Observatory ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Projection Screen Available
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:41:40AM -0700, Dick Steffens wrote: Would PLUG, or any PLUG member be interested in a DaLite 50 lenticular projection screen which is built with a tripod stand? Circa 1980 +/- a couple of years, but not used for probably 10 or more years. I would. Gave the one I had away and miss it. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Do not wait until all the conditions are perfect for you to begin. Beginning makes the conditions perfect. ~ Alan Cohen ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] procmail recipe not catching a Dr.Oz
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:34:14PM -0700, Michael Rasmussen wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.uswrote: A procmail recipe: :0 * ^From:.*Feed Blaster * ^From:.*Oz.*New * Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*Dr.*Oz * ^From:.*DrOz $MAILDIR/.aspambin/ Is not catching email with: Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 20:06:16 +0300 From: Show-Dr.Oz Newsletter abvbbw...@alhippa.net Subject: Revealing the slim, trim body you've always wanted And I have verified that it is Oz and not 0z. (oh not zero) What do your eyes catch that I'm missing? you don't have any trailing .*s to match the rest of the line? recind the forehead slap. It is a substring match and you don't need to spec the full line. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Are you making all this up as you go along? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] The paranoid #! Security Guide
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722 Extensive, perhaps comprehensive, review of what can and should be done to secure your system and net actions. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Successful randonneurs ponder with pessimism and execute with enthusiasm. ~ Kent Peterson ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] ASUS Laptop with Ubuntu preloaded from Amazon for $300
Includes 11.5 screen 1.1GHz Celeron 847 4 GB DDR3 320GB 5400 RPM HD 802.11bgn wifi 3 USB Ports - one USB 3 Full sized HDMI Multi-card reader Ethernet 3 pounds No 1 or 2 star reviews, couple of reviewers state hibernation support doesn't work. Most helpful review takes ASUS to task for WiFi being painful in the out of box confix. Remidied by upgrading the OS. Another reviewer observed There is also remarkably little space on the drive, given it's capacity (320 G). That can be traced to an empty, extended 105 G NTFS partition. I suppose you can mount it and put stuff there (like Windows?), or you can use GParted to resize it and the other partitions, or possibly delete it and resize the other partitions. It's a strange disk arrangement. Well, check the reviews for yourself. Don't miss Love the laptop; learning to love UBUNTU OS, By AKA, mom of 2 -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: I ride places where I want to go and sometimes those places are 1835 miles away and I have under two weeks to get there. ~ Kent Peterson ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] LibreOffice spreadsheet question...
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:59:31PM -0400, Fred James wrote: Bill Thoen I am trying to follow the solution in your first paragraph ... The second paragraph solution, and others I have seen so far, only count the number of rows, or with a little modification the number of columns. But the original question was (I believe) to place the value found in the last non-blank cell of a row, into the first cell of the same row? As I understand it (and I may be wrong), that would be something like ... Row 1 has values in B=2 C=40 D=1 so we want cell A1 to contain the number 1, which is the value in cell D1 Row 1 changes and has values in B=2 C=40 D=1 E=75 so we want cell A1 to contain the number 75, which is the value in cell E1 What behavior do you want in this case: B=2 C=40 D=blank E=14 F=80 The potential presence of blanks is what makes this a bit more complicated. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Newer != Better ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/01062008 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Apache virtual hosts not working for ServerAlias names - Solved
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 12:12:14AM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 08:23:12AM -0700, Michael Rasmussen wrote: Cluestick? Given this configuration: NameVirtualHost *:80 Listen 80 VirtualHost *:80 ServerName default.example.com /VirtualHost VirtualHost *:80 ServerNamewww.example.net ServerAlias testy.example.net /VirtualHost VirtualHost *:80 ServerNamewww.example.org ServerAlias new.example.org /VirtualHost Requests for www.* are served as I expect, the page(s) for the .net and .org sites are delivered. However requests for the ServerAliases, new.example.org and testy.example.net, are fufilled from default.example.com Among other things, each Virtualhost stanza has a DocumentRoot or some other handler in it. Not sure how your config finds the content it serves. I assume you left the handlers out of the above for simplicity. I did. I also retyped the relevant bits. What should have been there was: VirtualHost *:80 ServerNamewww.example.net ServerAlias testy.example.net. morehost.example.net /VirtualHost While a trailing dot is used in Bind configs to root a FQDN, this is breakage in Apache config. Worse, using `apache2 -S` or `apachectl -S` to syntax check your configuration yields a Syntax OK message. So removing the trailing dot on testy.example.net resolved the problem. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Of course I believe in luck. How otherwise to explain the success of those you dislike? ~ Jean Cocteau ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Apache virtual hosts not working for ServerAlias names
Cluestick? Given this configuration: NameVirtualHost *:80 Listen 80 VirtualHost *:80 ServerName default.example.com /VirtualHost VirtualHost *:80 ServerNamewww.example.net ServerAlias testy.example.net /VirtualHost VirtualHost *:80 ServerNamewww.example.org ServerAlias new.example.org /VirtualHost Requests for www.* are served as I expect, the page(s) for the .net and .org sites are delivered. However requests for the ServerAliases, new.example.org and testy.example.net, are fufilled from default.example.com This is on Apache 2.2.22 A similar config is working as expected on an Apache 2.2.8 installation. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: The two old-timers sat down for a long chat about the good old days, when the bicycle was the fastest vehicle on the dirt roads and an exchange of letters could take months. ~ David V. Herlihy ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Unicode mystery
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 04:24:43PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: I use a lot more than ordinary keyboard characters in my emails, with vim-enabled constructs like CO₂ and E = ½mv² . How many of you can read those? mutt does fine. like always. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: This is our first task, caring for our children. ~ Barak Obama ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Windows Question - tax prep software
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 06:51:21AM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:44:25 -0700 John Meissen j...@meissen.org dijo: [Now! with major Snippage!] TaxAct claims it is not their fault.. No funny stuff on the file or program. Now this may sound crazy to you.. I agree I need a hard copy of my tax return.. Is there a good Linux tax program I should use NEXT year? I don't know of any Linux tax preparation programs but there are tons of web-based tax preparation programs out there. The IRS maintains a list here: http://www.revenue.wi.gov/eserv/webased.html In case you still want to use Tax Act, have you tried printing to file? I'll cast a vote for using online tax prep software and TaxAct was recommended in a round about way: Antitrust enforcers look at more than just price when they are deciding whether to block a deal. They blocked HR Block's acquisition of a company that made TaxACT tax software. This TaxACT story is really what we call a maverick story, says Fiona Scott Morton, another former antitrust regulator. Like HR Block and Intuit, TaxACT had free software you could use to file your federal tax return. Unlike HR Block and Intuit, the Justice Department argued, TaxACT made a real effort to make its free version a product customers would really want to use. Aggressively giving away a product that other companies are charging for makes a company a maverick. That's good for competition, Morton says. The maverick is helping consumers by disrupting this tacit understanding and coordination among the big firms not to compete too hard, she says. The maverick is breaking that up and really benefiting consumers. A company that upsets the apple cart and then fights of acquisition? Sounds great. That quote is from the Planet Money podcast: http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/02/15/171955074/mavericks-hot-documents-and-beer Yeah, a story about beer monopolies. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: These little daily choices that we're so used to thinking are :irrelevant are the most important thing we do all day long. ~ Jonathan Foer ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] welcome to the new server
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 04:06:25AM -0700, Joe Pruett wrote: it looks like things are happy on the new machine. people on the archive may get two copies today (one from the old server and one from the new). i have fixed the annoying semicolon in the list name problem, so replying from thunderbird should stop being so annoying :-). Yay Joe! If you hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have noticed. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Unfortunately dreaming big is more fun and less work than doing big. ~ Adam Shand ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Main plug list civil and on-topic - frontier
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 02:32:06PM -0700, Dale Snell wrote: P.P.S. Keith: Frontier hates your domain; says it's not found. :-( 8.8.8.8 - always there for your net needs -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: The French just don't understand beer or fried food, but the rest of it often makes non-French food seem like prison gruel. ~ Curtis Ovid Poe ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] An equivelent for a Mac utility
This is from journalist Dan Gillmor. Anyone? I've made the transition to Linux fairly smoothly, but one of the things I miss most from the Mac ecosystem is the ability to create encrypted sparse bundle disk images. This technique breaks up a large file (or directory or collections of folders) into a directory of smaller encrypted chunks -- files -- and it grows as the amount data you put into it grows. This is particularly useful for online backup (e.g. Dropbox) for two reasons: First, the only items that change are particular files, not the entire thing, so it's bandwidth friendly. Second, given the relatively poor security record at Dropbox -- which I like a lot for most purposes -- this is much safer. I've seen nothing to compare to this on Linux. Does anyone know of anything to match it? I hope the Linux community is working on a way to replicate this incredibly useful tool. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: You can always piss on them. Though some may consider that a waste of perfectly good urine. ~ Peter Jon White (No, I won't reveal what component he was talking about.) ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] If YouTube quit working in Chrome for you
Here's the issue and workaround: Which version of Chrome? What is your CPU? IIRC, Pepper Flash is disabled, by default, on older CPUs. Very, very similar thread here: Google Chrome - couldn't load plugin - shockwave flash and a link to code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=173790. It's still flagged as unconfirmed despite several me-toos. It's now untriaged but this comment explains the problem: Unfortunately, 11.5.31.138 was pushed out via the component updater, and using plugins from the component updater doesn't work on Linux (and breaks stuff, due to the way plugins are loaded). :( So deleting ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash should fix things (unfortunately falling back to .137) ... and since we've stopped pushing .138, it won't reappear. So if your YouTube / flashcontent is broken rm -rf ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash will restore your video access. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: It's the dingdong in shamalamadingdong. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Best Selling Laptop on Amazon runs ... Linux
And it's not Ubuntu either. A Samsung Chromebook http://www.zdnet.com/amazons-top-selling-laptop-doesnt-run-windows-or-mac-os-it-runs-linux-709433/ -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Your voice makes angels smile. ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/01092010 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu: Testing Wired Network Connectivity [SOLVED]
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 06:34:35AM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote: On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, Rich Shepard wrote: I installed ubuntu-12.10 on a Toshiba Satellite portable which is to be sent to someone across the country. Wireless networking has always worked on this host, but wired networking did not. I need to test the wired networking before it's packaged and shipped and would like assistance from a ubuntu expert. Did the testing at the clinic last Sunday and found networking functional on the ethernet and radio. All's OK. And how did you test? What could some future reader discover to do by reading this? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Karl Marx noted that the existence of paper money made people less likely to help. He thought participants in a barter economy would be more likely to send a starving neighbor a ham than modern Europeans would be to send some coins. Modern research has confirmed Marx’s suppositions. ~ http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2009/04/03/the-life-you-can-save-by-peter-singer/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Screen Freeze
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 04:37:01PM -0800, Chaz Sliger wrote: Anybody experience occasional screen freezes? The only way I've been able to get the system to respond again is to hit the interrupt button. Not sure whether it stops listening to the keyboard/mouse or freezes the output image. Another data point, No problem with my always on System 76 laptop. michael@bivy:~/momcal$ cat /etc/*ease DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS NAME=Ubuntu VERSION=12.04.1 LTS, Precise Pangolin ID=ubuntu ID_LIKE=debian PRETTY_NAME=Ubuntu precise (12.04.1 LTS) VERSION_ID=12.04 michael@bivy:~/momcal$ uname -a Linux bivy 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: But the real me, deep down inside, knows this is ok. My own goal isn’t to get better. It isn’t to get faster. It is to stay fit, keep that 100 extra pounds off, and sweat every day. ~ Annie Bananza on marathon running ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Video editing software -- recommendations?
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 11:24:29AM -0800, Tim Wescott wrote: Title says it: I'm looking for video editing software, preferably freeware. I'll be the third to recommend kdenlive. Good community, solid development team, and an all around good editor. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: I fed the King another story for his pleasure. It was his opium. He lived in my words, while outside, his defeated kingdom crumbled. ~ Sean Hill http://www.very-short-story.com/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] gpg question
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 11:17:04AM -0500, Fred James wrote: All I opened a root console on my Mageia2 KDE4 desktop and got a new message I had not seen before ... to the effect that .../gpg.conf was in an unsafe configuration. gpg.conf shoud have permissions of 600 and be owned by your UID. See: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2182938/gpg-warning-unsafe-ownership-on-configuration-file-gpg-fingerprint-on-ubun or https://www.google.com/search?q=.gnupg%2Fgpg.conf+permissions -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://gplus.to/MichaelRpdx A special random fortune cookie fortune: Memories can be like relatives you don't like -- when they appear you wince or sigh but you have to put up with them because they're family. ~ Jonathan Carroll ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Web Site Access: Route Broken - Bank DDOS
On 2012-09-24 16:35, Jeff Maher wrote: Just an FYI Banks Warned to be Alert for Cyber attacks (09/19/2012) The Financial Services Information Sharing and Analysis Center (FS-ISAC) has issued a warning to US financial institutions to be alert for cyber attacks following outages on the public websites of Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase. There are reports that several banks are being targeted by distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks, but the others have not been named. See following for details http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/20/us-jpmorganchase-website-idINBRE88I16M20120920 Or this, http://pastebin.com/yftgau9w pastebin is used for more than IRC code samples The DDOS, aside from making online banking a pita to use, seem to be a diversion ploy -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Goobuntu - Google's default desktop
You need to get special, high level permission to use Windows http://www.zdnet.com/the-truth-about-goobuntu-googles-in-house-desktop-ubuntu-linux-703462/ -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. ~ Carl Sagan ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Apparent RBL Server Failure
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 07:36:14AM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: This morning I discovered that there were no incoming messages since some time last evening. When I looked at the mail log I saw that list.dsbl.org rejected all sender IP addresses, mostly topic-specific mail lists. Very strange and hasn't happened before. I commented out that check in postfix's main.cf and mail's dribbling in once again. The only upside is not getting the usual does of cleverly-shrouded spam that escapes all the filters. Has anyone else encountered this? What RBLs are you checking in mail.cf? To quote: DSBL is GONE - from http://dsbl.org/ and they've been gone for three years. I'm using sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: Weird people are to life what scent is to flowers. ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/04022008 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Verizon now required to allow tethering w/3rd party apps
Which means without paying them for the privledge. http://consumerist.com/2012/08/verizon-must-pay-fcc-1-25-million-fine-let-android-users-tether-for-free.html additional links in the story -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: Don’t let the noise of other’s opinions drown out your own inner voice. ~ Steve Jobs ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 'sort' to find duplicate rows
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 03:59:26PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: The text file has 120k rows; each row has 8 columns. There are duplicate rows that I want to eliminate. My reading of the sort man page and various Web pages with examples tells me that the sort --key option is limited to a sequential starting field and ending field. What I need is to sort on fields 1, 2, and 4. You've a solution and all, but I'm curious. If the lines are identical what difference does the sort key make? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: The universe is a program. You're just a subroutine. ~ Zach Weiner ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] PLUG Logo original?
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 05:00:03PM -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: On 7/12/12 3:47 PM, Daniel Hedlund wrote: The original was created by Rusty Lynch and had the filename linux_northwest.jpg, in case anyone wants to try a find it on one of their WORN storage devices. http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug-web/2002q2/000116.html David also commented in a related email that he had a copy of the original on his site back in 2002: http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug-web/2002q2/000125.html A little digging with the wayback machine revelals: http://web.archive.org/web/20020604135303/http://davidmandel.com/util-images/plug-logo.jpg Good show! What are your thoughts on this variation? http://pdxlinux.org/portland-linux-unix-group.jpg Nice rendering. Good image. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: The two old-timers sat down for a long chat about the good old days, when the bicycle was the fastest vehicle on the dirt roads and an exchange of letters could take months. ~ David V. Herlihy ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Flier feedback from the meeting
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 01:50:12PM -0700, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Fri, 6 Jul 2012, Michael Dexter wrote: On 7/6/12 1:15 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: The flier never made it to me. Can you post it somewhere? http://pdxlinux.org/WhyPortlandBeta.pdf How about adding No sunburn from October to June to the Lifestyle section? Or perhaps All those lovely shades of gray! :-) More than 50 shades of gray. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: You're not a DNF until the time arrives and you haven't. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Journalist Dan Gillmore switches from Mac to Linux
And is now writing a book about the experience. Permission Taken is the working title. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vCAKdIPxgda5ZfjKZs-Hg0CAOmm3k_w90TDds1CzFxw/edit?pli=1 Google+ post summarizing the move https://plus.google.com/u/0/113210431006401244170/posts/8Eibadk2ewL -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: The Omnivore's Dilemma is a book so compelling that reading it changes your relationship to the physical world: Afterward, you simply can't ever again look at a can of Coke or a bag of Cheetos without shuddering as you contemplate the completely bonkers industrial food system that produced such modern artifacts. ~ Andrew Leonard ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Fwd: Hosted e-mail recommendations?
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 04:25:09PM -0700, wes wrote: I use it for free. And the paid version is $50 per user per year. And what you get for that is way more than you get from anywhere else for that price. Heck, why don't they just go to a buck a week. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: The quality of journalism and the quality of democracy are inextricably joined. ~ Bill Moyer ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Promoting Portland at OSCON
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:08:20AM -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: Small size with big-city industry Calagator/user group scene No sales tax OSB and OSCON Free Geek Drupal Foundation Puppet Labs Walmart Labs Japanese Gardens Chinese Gardens Powell's Books Foodcarts Coffee and beer OMSI Intel Outdoors activities Good public transportation Friendly environment Award-winning airport Community Cultural events like Last Thursday on Alberta, First Thursday Art walks World class restaurants, wine country Forest Grove Park - one of the largest urban forested park in the nation Better weather than Seattle -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: Just wait until now becomes then. You'll see how happy we were. ~ Susan Sontag ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Blue Video
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 06:46:12PM -0700, Denis Heidtmann wrote: I used my Canon PowerShot SD780IS to record some videos in open shade on a bright sunny day. I transferred the resulting files to my Ubuntu system. The thumbnails (*.THM) look reasonable, but the videos (*.MOV) which are listed as QuickTime, are heavily tinted blue. ( The subject was a Blue Grass band, but not that blue.) The instructions for the camera do not offer choices for video white balance, although it does for the stills. One person suggested that that the problem may be in the display SW--I am using Movie Player, the default on Ubuntu. How do I diagnose the problem? What you describe is what I would expect from a camera balanced for daylight rendering subjects in open shade. This is correctable with any reasonable video editing program. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: I have a terrible sense of direction and get lost on a regular basis, but at least with the GPS, I know precisely where I'm lost. ~ Bob Heath ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Comcast DHCP Address changing
I'm doing a bit of research. For those of you who have have bothered to track it, how often does Comcast change your IP address? -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Download All Specified Files From Website
On 2012-05-25 08:03, Rich Shepard wrote: [rshepard@salmo /opt]$ wget -r -A t?z -nH --cut-dirs=1 http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.37/ Please tell me what that command line should be to get only the *.t?z files in the ../13.37/ directory and the compat32/ subdirectory. First, from the wget man page: -A acclist --accept acclist -R rejlist --reject rejlist Specify comma-separated lists of file name suffixes or patterns to accept or reject. Note that if any of the wildcard characters, *, ?, [ or ], appear in an element of acclist or rejlist, it will be treated as a pattern, rather than a suffix. Since you use t?z your acclist will match any file with tanycharacterz in the name. This matches 36 files in the directory you're searching. These include *txz.asc *txz.md5 *txz and *tgz From your description of what you wish to do this is not the file list you're trying to match. Scanning the directory listing it seems you only want *tgz and *txz files. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Download All Specified Files From Website
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 06:35:07PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
The Web site with the 32-bit compatibility libraries for Slackware64 has
several directories each containing numerous files with different
extensions. I want to recursively download all those with the extension of
t?z.
ncftpget won't accept an http:// URL and wget -r gets all files in every
subdirectory, including those I don't need, but won't accept wildcards
(e.g., *.txz)
wget target
find . -name \*t.z -exec {} /someplace/you/want
rm -rf top of tree of wget'd files
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Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier:
The basic currency of the Internet is human ignorance, and,
frankly, our database holds a strong cash position!
~ http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-best-questions-for-first-dates/
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Re: [PLUG] Top questions
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 03:04:25PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: 1) I can't read the list of running processes easily. I see the application I want to kill, but just as I am about to read its PID, the screen jumps. How do I make the list of running processes sit still? press d (delay) and enter a new value for refresh updates. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character. ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] wifi security
On 2012-04-30 11:02, Denis Heidtmann wrote: Is this news to all you Experienced Geeks? (It is to me, but I am not an EG.) http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/wi-fi-protected-setup-is-busted/1808 It's non-news in that my WiFi, like my porch light, the shade of my trees and the scents of flowers, are all available for anyone to use. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Shut up and Hack
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 09:13:51AM -0700, Michael Dexter wrote: Given the short notice for next week's General meeting, I present you an audio summary of the OpenBSD project to help prepare: http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#audio_extra51 http://www.openbsd.org/songs/songsh.mp3 http://www.openbsd.org/songs/songsh.ogg In short, they are a bunch of hikers who refine Unix. So they're hiking hackers? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: God's original plan was hanging out in a garden with some naked vegetarians. ~ a bumper sticker ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] printing pdf difficulty
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 07:48:03PM -0700, Denis Heidtmann wrote: I seem to have problems printing a pdf document. Document Viewer (2.30.3) offers to print, and it does print, but the size does not match the page--some portion of the page gets cut off. The print view shows the truncated page. Two avenues: Does `cat /etc/papersize` return A4 or letter? If A4, your system is not resizing the printed items properly. If letter, when the print dialog is open look for an option to resize the to fit the page. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: I find the overhead of secret keeping burdensome and certainly lying much more so and prefer honesty and openness out of laziness and sloth. ~ Russell Senior ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Vim % behavior
I've searched the Vim Tips Wiki, asked on IRC and now here:
Is there a Vim plugin that will change % matching behavior to skip quoted or
escaped matches?
Given:
1 var1{
2 ...
3{ Target = 'blah blah.*}',
4 ...
5}
6...
7$fem = \};
8 }
With the cursor on { on line 1 % would then take you to line 8.
The intent is to navigate through Data::Dumper (a Perl variable analysis tool)
dumps with embedded quoted code fragments.
Cluestick pointer preferred.
For those of you who don't Vim, when your cursor is on one of [ { ( ) } ]
pressing %
will move the cursor to the matching ] } ) ( { or [.
There's also a plugin that will do the same with HTML tags.
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Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier:
We passed through Union City, which has so little to say for itself that
its history marker refers to events 20 miles up the road in Titusville
~ Cross country bike tourist Leo Woodland
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Re: [PLUG] Last Call! The PLUG AT speaker can't make it. Options?
On 2012-04-17 08:01, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, Michael Rasmussen wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 03:35:03PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: I will show up to hide from the IRS, even if nothing else is scheduled. My attendence is totally dependent on the state of my tax preparation. What did Oregon do this time? (That *is* the state in question, right?) ducks/ Oregon? I was thinking alcohol. If I can drink while I vote from home then I should be able to pay taxes the same way. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Wireless Connectivity: One Step Closer
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 04:44:12PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: What might prevent ntpd from being called on the Sony? This seems to be the key issue and I've no idea how to trace it further toward the source. _Someone_ must have the insight and experience to point me toward a fix. While time is important, it's not so important as to stop a network connection. Having said that, what might prevent it from being called is lack of network. No reasong to use the Network Time Protocol without a net. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: Curiosity is worth looking for, especially in technical interviews. ~ Adam Shand ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Last Call! The PLUG AT speaker can't make it. Options?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 03:35:03PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: I will show up to hide from the IRS, even if nothing else is scheduled. My attendence is totally dependent on the state of my tax preparation. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: To be upset over what you don't have is to waste what you do have. ~ Ken S Keyes, Jr ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Ruby 1.8.7 on Arch - Segfaulting
Anyone here have clues about the (potential) issue? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: At the turn of the 20th century the principal way of distributing songs was on sheet music and piano rolls and the principal machine for rendering them was an educated daughter. ~ Perry Cook ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Controling Network Interfaces
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 05:22:27PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Mike Connors wrote: That's not what I meant. I should have written have you deleted the static ip config stanza from /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf file and then tested net connectivity over wifi.? No. The eth0 interface needs to come down when wlan0 is up, even if eth0 is not running. eth0 is needed on the lan. What? Why? As I understand your use cases: - at home running on wired (eth0) - at a WiFi hotspot running on air (wlan0) And you never use both at the same time. Yes? No? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du courrier: Being surrounded by cigarette smoke for hours makes everything you own smell like death. ~ Abram Goldman-Armstrong ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Domain Registration and Redirection Purveyors
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 03:28:53PM -0700, Richard C. Steffens wrote: When you already have a domain registered and hosted somewhere and you want to register additional domain names and have them point to the current domain, where do you folks prefer? The registrar doesn't matter. It's the DNS configuration that points names to addresses. Having said that I prefer Gandi because of the EULA and over a decade of positive experience. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Dicipline is making the choice between what you want now and what you want most. ~ Anon ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Laptop Choices - Journalist Dan Gillmore
Dan asked G+ lazyweb for a Linux laptop recommendation since he's leaving the Apple world. https://plus.google.com/u/0/113210431006401244170/posts/JoZqesi8ZE4 Lots of nice discussion. Surprise weigh in came from Paul Vixie. since i'm stuck on the thinkpad keyboard design ... added bonus: three mouse buttons, so i can run X windows apps and get a middle mouse button without chording. My kind of system user. Who's Paul Vixie you ask? I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to resolve that name. rimshot/ -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Garmin GPS Recivers Work with Wine? vmware? KVM?
On 2012-04-03 12:24, Russell Johnson wrote: On Apr 3, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: I guess I must go to eBay to buy a cheap netbook with Winduhs just to run this one application and load maps. What I used to do when I had a Windows requirement was I would use one of the vmware freeware versions to run a virtual machine. Of course, this requires a legal license for Windows, since you are running authentic Windows. Did you ever try the Win VM with KVM? I'm about to and if there are things to be aware of I'd like to be aware. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Garmin GPS Recivers Work with Wine? vmware? KVM?
On 2012-04-03 14:25, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Michael Rasmussen wrote: Did you ever try the Win VM with KVM? I'm about to and if there are things to be aware of I'd like to be aware. Don't I need a winduhs licensed OS to install when running quemu-kvm? Rich, The question was directed to Russel, who has done this or so I hoped. A Windows license or reasonable facsimile thereof is required for an Win install on any VM. No magic there. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Understanding Networking Components
On 2012-04-02 09:06, jen montserrat wrote: Today I'll capture the display of 'route -n' and post it here. What I saw yesterday as the default gatewey for wlan0 was 10.5.70.1 and the default gateway for eth0 was 192.168.55.4. Try and open another term window and run tcpdump on the eth0 interface while making some connection attempts to verify if or if not traffic is traversing that interface. Also, if it was not mentioned in earlier posts, the correct way to verify iptables is iptables -L. considering his current problems `iptables -n -L` to not do hostname lookups. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Understanding Networking Components
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 02:42:36PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: The location is probably immaterial; the coffee shop on the corner of 242nd and Stark is where I've been. My friend tries to connect at a coffee shop in downtown Gresham. I'll drive to Portland to meet anyone willing to devote the time to work this out ... and I'll buy the coffee (or lunch). Until Easter Belgian Abbey beer would count as lunch. At least according to the fasting monks. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. ~ Carl Sagan ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] a bit more information
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:54:34PM -0700, website reader wrote: What is a bit irritating in all this is that cp should NOT have grabbed so much main memory and allocated it to disk cache. It took 99.65% of the memory. I would have expected it to throttle back and only use 95% of the available memory, insteading of grabbing everything but 86 megabytes, Why? What's lead you to that belief? What else was the system doing? From your description the system was just copying the file(s). It was caching the only significant activity on the system. What is surprising about that? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Pepper has been called 'the gift of the East,' though 'gift' means poison in Swedish. don't let that put you off. ~ label of Scandinavian Airlines salt and pepper packet ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Clinic today with PXE OS installs
Yes, I've more or less pulled it together to give a talk on how to set up PXE for OS installs. And my laptop is ready to serve up a limited number of them - which we'll expand as part of the demo. There is a small hub/switch and cat 5 avaiable...right? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Ride what you like, but don't be too hasty in deciding what you don't like. ~ Ray Sachs ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Free distros! - PXE Booting Beyond
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 01:25:47PM -0800, wes wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Michael R mich...@jamhome.us wrote: John Jason Jordan wrote: It's probably possible. But first I need to learn PXE stands for. It stands for Fun! Where Fun == Preboot Execution Environment. and combining the Clinic with an AT meeting on how to do it. You heard it everyone! Michael R just volunteered to come to the clinic and show us how to PXE boot! -wes If you're not Sean Ellefson you missed out on the fun. Despite a lack of test platform to verify my install Despite not reading the docs closely enough It still worked, almost the first time[1] Sean and I worked together to correct the nits. He then dived into recreating the environment in his portable test network. I honed the installation and presentation. The clinic rumbled around us. If there is interest I can give an actual talk. [1] When I set up my server/laptop with a static IP and then hopped onto the Free Geek network and ran dhclient to get an IP. It also fetched an eth0 address for itself from itself. All the static addressing failed until that was resolved. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: I have a terrible sense of direction and get lost on a regular basis, but at least with the GPS, I know precisely where I'm lost. ~ Bob Heath ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Once again Linux has proven to me it is good for the career
A flip of Kirk's recent rant. Sometime around 1994 or 1995 I replaced the SCO Unix and Novell Netware at home with a network of Linux machines. Used them to learn the back end of all the fundamental services: firewall, DNS, NTP, SMTP, SNMP ... Then whenever a problem came up at work that required the skill I knew more than my coworkers and got to have fun and make money. Bosses liked this and so did I. Today I received a call from HR. The internal transfer I applied for? We'd like to offer you the job. I'm getting to move on to intensely interesting work - fraud detection. Skills and experience gained through Linux systems were a key factor in getting the job. Having a home lab of three physical machines was a asset in the manager's eyes. He especially liked the comment When learning I need a lab where I can break things. A small part of the job will be managing an infrastructure of scores of servers. A big part will be analyzing traffic, malware samples, and figuring out fraudsters new techniques so we can continue to block their efforts. It's all built on a foundation of skills acquired by running a network of Linux boxes at home. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: I refuse the iPod because it is an audio bubble that shuts you off from the world, which is where good ideas come from. ~ Garrison Keillor ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linux Containers - the MOVIE!
On 2012-03-23 13:06, plug...@martinconsulting.com wrote: Those of you that attended the PLUG Advanced Topics presentation on Linux Containers earlier this week know that I wasn't able to give the promised demo. To satisfy that need I've recorded a video of the demonstration, which you can find at http://youtu.be/N7GkNs2wQt4. I spent a huge amount of time figuring out how to record that demo. I tried the Istanbul and recordmydesktop apps before falling back to ffmpeg. For others that might want to create a similar demo, the incantation that works for me is: ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1024x768 -r 30 -i :0.0 -f alsa -ac 2 -i hw:0,0 -sameq -async 4 -map 0,0 -map 1 ~/output.mpeg The -map options are particularly important to keep the audio and video in sync. If any ffmpeg gurus can tell me how to improve this, particularly regarding the audio quality, I'd love to hear about it. Record the audio separately and mix them together with a tool like kdenlive. You can also use this tool to do the format conversion for optimal results. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Free temporary online repository question
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 03:16:11PM -0700, logical american wrote: On 3/23/2012 2:38 PM, Russell Senior wrote: I am interested to know what is in the tables that they are 2 gig. Triangles being fairly simple shapes, I am not sure what I could come up with about them that would fill so much space. How about 54+ million of them, and they have a special requirement that they be primitive Heron triangles? The 5,4,3 triangle works, because the sides are relatively prime to each other. The 6,5,5 triangle also works. But the 10,8,6 triangle won't work. Neither do most triangles, like the 2,3,4 triangle, since the area of that triangle is not rational. Heron triangles have rational area. See http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_07_28_03.html about tetrahedrons. I have a VM out there with 12G you can use temporarily. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. ~ Aristotle ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu how-to doc... Stockholm Syndrome
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:23:32PM -0700, Russell Senior wrote: Dude. This is called the Stockholm Syndrome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome In psychology, Stockholm Syndrome is an apparently paradoxical psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. Does that sound like what made traditional marriages work? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated. ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/16022012 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu how-to doc... Stockholm Syndrome
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 05:56:24PM -0700, Russell Senior wrote: Michael == Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.us writes: Dude. This is called the Stockholm Syndrome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome In psychology, Stockholm Syndrome is an apparently paradoxical psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. Michael Does that sound like what made traditional marriages work? The wikipedia page does suggest there is may be an evolutionary basis for the behavior. PS: minus-minus for hijacking my hate-unity thread ;-) PPS: minus-minus me for hijacking whatever it was the thread started out as. PPPS: plus-plus for having the decency to redo the subject line. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. ~ Richard Dawkins ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Allow User to Run Shell Script As root
On 2012-03-19 10:07, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2012, Tim wrote: The goal of your changes seems really *odd*, to put it lightly. Changing a system-wide DNS configuration when a single user logs out. Is your intent to restore the DNS configuration when she is no longer using the system? Now you understand ... almost. I need to have the system-wide DNS configuration set on that portable for use here. That's neither odd or strange. I suppose that if one runs all one's LANs using dhcp it's difficult to appreciate that other networks use static IP addresses. This really should be controlled through the networking system. I recall you're using Slackware. Does it have /etc/network/.../ifup.* scripts? Presumably when she's at the coffee shop the connection to your home network is severed. So there must be interface up and down events. Use those events to modify /etc/resolv.conf. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Google search of list archives restored
Don't recall seeing it announced. This morning I wanted to get more information about the netbook Denis had found. Did a search on the model number he thoughtfully provided in an email and the #1 result ... a link to our archives: Did you mean: 1016 PEM-MU17-RD Search Results Re: [PLUG] Backup of system on a Asus Netbook www.mail-archive.com/plug@lists.pdxlinux.org/msg12845.html 1 day ago – 1016PEM-MU17-RD I have an older Acer A150, with an 8 screen, running Linux Mint, which my wife uses currently. -- Matt M The three results after that all go to dealtime -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. ~ General Dwight D. Eisenhower ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Google search of list archives restored
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 07:38:25AM -0700, Denis Heidtmann wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.uswrote: Don't recall seeing it announced. What does the above line refer to? Wazzit mean? A few months ago there was discussion about the Plug email list archives not being indexed by search engines. My experience this morning shows the problem was fixed. I don't recall seeing an announcement that the web admins had fixed it. -Denis This morning I wanted to get more information about the netbook Denis had found. Did a search on the model number he thoughtfully provided in an email and the #1 result ... a link to our archives: Did you mean: 1016 PEM-MU17-RD Search Results Re: [PLUG] Backup of system on a Asus Netbook www.mail-archive.com/plug@lists.pdxlinux.org/msg12845.html 1 day ago – 1016PEM-MU17-RD I have an older Acer A150, with an 8 screen, running Linux Mint, which my wife uses currently. -- Matt M The three results after that all go to dealtime -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. ~ General Dwight D. Eisenhower ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Don't count the grains of sand ~ go swim in the ocean. ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/25122007 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Once again Linux has proven to me it is only good for non critical apps
On 2012-03-15 20:02, Kirk Goins wrote: [0,665225] Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) Is this fixable or will I need to scrap and reload? Should be fixable. There are many questions particulars to how your system was set up for us to just say do this. But for a start: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751574 and https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=Kernel+Panic+-+not+syncing:+VFS+Unable+to+mount+root+fs+on+unknown-block(0%2C0)+ubuntu Several months ago a grub update trashed things, but the clinic was a few days away and I was able to get it fixed there. Clinic is just nine days away. And questions that don't assert that Plug members are collectively out of their minds for running critical systems on Linux may get more helpful responses in this forum. At my workplace we are replacing most Solaris, HPUX, ... *nix with Linux boxes. Consider that reliability anecdote the next time you're able to get cash from an ATM or use your debit card -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Once again Linux has proven to me it is only good for non critical apps
On 2012-03-16 09:40, Russell Senior wrote: Kirk == Kirk Goins kirkgo...@gmail.com writes: Kirk I will see what I can do over the weekend. The Base OS is ( was? Kirk ) Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS. I have found the DVD and booted from it. I Kirk can mount the drive and I can see and navigate through the Kirk folders etc. Kirk I don't see a grub prompts as this is the only OS on that box. Your BIOS may be hiding the bootup messages that would show GRUB doing its thing. I don't have to reboot often enough to remember exactly what it looks like. Quick Boot, Silent Boot or something, turn those off for diagnosis. Or... grub's timeout value (/boot/grub/menu.1st on my utility box at work) could be set to 1 so it flashes by with small chance of being interrupted. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Once again Linux has proven to me it is only good for non critical apps
On 2012-03-16 13:08, Kirk Goins wrote: I was able to get to GRUB '1' time and picked the previous kernel which is .38 vs .39 and the system booted correctly. Since then I can't get the timing correct to get back into GRUB. So 2 basic questions. #1 What line to a I add/change/delete in the config file to make GRUB pause for say 10 seconds? (see below) but to restate /boot/grub/menu.1st contains an entry for timeout That's what needs to change. #2 Do I just remove the 2 sections referencing the .39 and .39 Recovery from the config file to get past this error for now? Better to grok the file and make the .38 the default. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.uswrote: On 2012-03-16 09:40, Russell Senior wrote: Kirk == Kirk Goins kirkgo...@gmail.com writes: Kirk I will see what I can do over the weekend. The Base OS is ( was? Kirk ) Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS. I have found the DVD and booted from it. I Kirk can mount the drive and I can see and navigate through the Kirk folders etc. Kirk I don't see a grub prompts as this is the only OS on that box. Your BIOS may be hiding the bootup messages that would show GRUB doing its thing. I don't have to reboot often enough to remember exactly what it looks like. Quick Boot, Silent Boot or something, turn those off for diagnosis. Or... grub's timeout value (/boot/grub/menu.1st on my utility box at work) could be set to 1 so it flashes by with small chance of being interrupted. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] No (Electricity for) LUG Clinic this Sunday.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:13:10PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:16:42 -0700 John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net dijo: I have no axes to grind here. Any of the options are fine with me, although I would hope that completely canceling the Clinic could be avoided. My personal vote would be either the generator or a different location, with notices of the location on the door at Free Geek. There are many who may be coming and who do not read our list regularly, e.g., those who heard about it on Calagator and other venues. I should have added that another argument in favor of not canceling is that this is the week several people were planning on doing the net installation demonstration. For the record... I volunteer for the Oregon Star Party and we're have one of our four annual meetings at the same time as the clinic. I'll be available for the April net install demo. Since I've volunteered and all... -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: DFL DNFDNS ~ Cecil Reniche-Smith ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Is there a non-server way to benefit from include files for web sites?
Richard C. Steffens wrote: I'm working on a small HTML project to display the story of the Victorian house we restored about 20 years ago. I want to give a copy to a preservation group that's interested in it. The problem is that I am using php on my home Apache installation so I can use include. However, I won't be posting it on a php enabled server. Include is the only feature of php that I need for this project. Apache has an include feature: !-- Set the title and slogan!! -- !--#set var=title value=OR Randonneurs -- !--#set var=slogan value=Cycling Further in the Northwest -- !--#set var=pageID value= -- !--#include virtual=/head.html -- !--#include virtual=/lnav.html -- div id=content p bIs it Spring?/b br/ Is there some other tool I can use that gives me the advantages of include? wget also has options to build a locally self contained version of a web site you crawl from the wget man page: Wget can be instructed to convert the links in downloaded HTML files to the local files for offline viewing. As I recall it uses relative links so you'd be able to forward the tree of goods to them to install on their site with minimal effort. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Is there a non-server way to benefit from include files for web sites?
Richard C. Steffens wrote: On 03/12/2012 11:25 AM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: Apache has an include feature: !-- Set the title and slogan!! -- !--#set var=title value=OR Randonneurs -- !--#set var=slogan value=Cycling Further in the Northwest -- !--#set var=pageID value= -- !--#include virtual=/head.html -- !--#include virtual=/lnav.html -- div id=content p bIs it Spring?/b br/ Yes. But that's a server. Yes, but a standard Apache install with no external modules required. Meaning they may have it already and not know it. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Free distros!
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 05:41:51PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:51:57 -0800 (PST) Michael R mich...@jamhome.us dijo: show us how to PXE boot! Sure. Why not? PXE booting is the easy part. Providing the server...I'll do that too. It does sound like fun. I've often thought about combining a short educational session with each Clinic. This might be an opportunity to try out the idea. I think we have at least one router and one switch in the PLUG box at Free Geek. Plus we have cables in abundance and probably miscellaneous other equipment. However, bear in mind that we will need our own network, as we don't have permission to install things on Free Geek's network. I'm sure everyone has already thought of that; I just wanted to mention it to be sure that everyone knows. I planned on bringing an an port switch. To do this we need to control the DHCP environment. All we'll need is cat 5 cables. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Apple pie is a weekend project to slow the baker's hear rate and restore belief in happiness. ~ Sam Sifton ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Break in attempt?
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 09:17:01AM -0800, Denis Heidtmann wrote: I did something stupid. Yesterday (Saturday) evening a window popped up saying someone wanted to log in. I permitted it thinking it was my son. Within two minutes I found out that it was not he, so I shut down. This morning I perused the logs (network off). I found that on Friday the auth.log shows many (over 300) messages such as: 23.19.81.173.rdns.ubiquity.io [23.19.81.173] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! Feb 17 16:56:10 R2D4 sshd[2649]: Invalid user rookie from 23.19.81.173 Feb 17 16:56:16 R2D4 sshd[2651]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 23.19.81.173.rdns.ubiquity.io [23.19.81.173] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! Where rookie changed to many different names. Advice? Recognize that breakin attempts will happen, use good passwords, sleep easy. Install something like fail2ban http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Fail2ban:Community_Portal to reduce log file clutter and lower the chance of your attacker getting lucky. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: The Omnivore's Dilemma is a book so compelling that reading it changes your relationship to the physical world: Afterward, you simply can't ever again look at a can of Coke or a bag of Cheetos without shuddering as you contemplate the completely bonkers industrial food system that produced such modern artifacts. ~ Andrew Leonard ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Break-in attempt
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:36:38AM -0800, Denis Heidtmann wrote: I think the core of my question is what is the likely result of my saying YES to the login request? Use `last | less` and see who actually logged in when you did the approval, then see what they did while logged on. For instance, mine looks like: michael pts/3shed.jamhome.us Sun Feb 19 13:29 still logged in michael pts/0shed.jamhome.us Sun Feb 19 10:28 still logged in gritton pts/3c-174-52-130-208 Mon Feb 13 21:53 - 21:53 (00:00) michael pts/1shed.jamhome.us Mon Feb 13 15:50 still logged in michael pts/0hive.michaelsnet Sun Feb 12 05:16 - 06:10 (00:53) gritton pts/0c-174-52-133-59. Sun Feb 5 19:15 - 19:16 (00:01) michael pts/4shed.jamhome.us Sun Feb 5 05:14 - 05:33 (00:19) wtmp begins Sun Feb 5 05:14:05 2012 There's me logging in from two other hosts on the local net and (Jamie) Gritton logging in for a minute or so once a week. Alternatively you can examine /var/log/auth.log for the time you're intested in and see if you approved an ftp, ssh or ? login -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Don't forget to thank your angel. ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/23052008 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] namebench
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:37:56PM -0800, Robert Munro wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:49:59 -0800 Galen Seitz wrote: snip Try out namebench. It hunts down the fastest DNS servers available for your computer to use. snip http://code.google.com/p/namebench/ I was curious so I tried namebench. It's great! This is entertaining and informative. I opted for sharing my anonimized results, you can see thm at http://namebench.appspot.com/id/6284106 The entertaining part: Google Public DNS (the famous 8.8.8.8) is noted as google.com apears incorrect. And PayPal is hijacked? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: When it was colder than -5F I drove to work. I'm getting old and soft. ~ Curt Goodrich, Minneapolis, Minnesota ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] (...) construct
Various poking around hasn't resolved the question. So off to freenode and /join #bash MichaelRpdxIn a Ward Cunningham interview he said I saw ( ... ) in use once and had to call my unix geek friends to find out how that could possibly work. MichaelRpdx What does (...) do? MichaelRpdx fork in a script? MichaelRpdx complex evaluation? Riviera There is no (...). MichaelRpdx ( something ) ? Riviera MichaelRpdx: This command1 (command2) Riviera MichaelRpdx: would be Riviera MichaelRpdx: command1 Riviera MichaelRpdx: (command2) Riviera has less respect for Ward than I do. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Of course I believe in luck. How otherwise to explain the success of those you dislike? ~ Jean Cocteau ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Quick Bash Reminder/Quiz
while on #bash I jumped in to help someone: MichaelRpdx mr-green06: or perhaps mkdir -p $var Riviera !umq MichaelRpdx The !umq was a reminder to me because I'd given mr-green06 bad advice. Can you tell what I'd done wrong? at a glance? -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Q. Why is this so clumsy? A. The trick is to use Perl's strengths rather than its weaknesses. ~ Larry Wall ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Recommendation desired for Open Source project lurking
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:32:17AM -0800, Richard C. Steffens wrote: A management consultant needs to understand how collaboration works in open source. I wondered if lurking on the development mailing list of an open source project would be enlightening. Does anyone have any recommendations for what list(s) would be useful in that regard? Another option would be to view the discussion tabs for any article at Wikipedia or the (amazingly civil) Arch Linux wiki. Discussion happens. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: God is Nature ~ http://someoneoncetoldme.com/gallery/07102007 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Great interview with Ward Cunningham
Though part of the Heroes of Java series it mostly talks about other things. http://blog.eisele.net/2012/02/heroes-of-java-ward-cunningham.html -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note. ~ Doug Floyd ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] what does (...) do?
ash continues to amaze me. I saw ( ... ) in use once and had to call my unix geek friends to find out how that could possibly work. ~ Ward Cunningham Never mind how it works, what does it do? Can't Google for punctuation, not in the Bash references I searched, the thread about web searching for punctuation isn't findable via search engine. So it's up to Plug and its repository of knowledge. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: It's better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you're not. ~ Marilyn Monroe ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Laptops with three mouse buttons opinions?
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 06:26:34PM -0800, Michael Dexter wrote: Hello all, From what I can tell, few laptops have three mouse buttons with the most common one appearing to be a ThinkPad. Could anyone with a three mouse button laptop please comment on its comfort, for lack of a better term? The ThinkPad third button appears to be above, rather than below the trackpad, leading me to question its usefulness. I've owned a few ThinkPads and the buttons worked so great for me I bought a stand alone keyboard with the same configuration to use with my desktop. The laptop provided by my employer, an HP Elitebook has three buttons below the spacebar and three below the track pad. I use them equally. Linux life without three button mouse is painful in my experience. I paste with it all the time. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Objects in the calendar are closer than they appear. ~ Michael Rasmussen ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Using wget/curl to download all files in directory
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 06:13:43AM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote: On Sun, 5 Feb 2012, Paul Mullen wrote: wget can do that for you. My preferred wget command line: wget -nc -k -r -np YOUR_URL_HERE With that command line, wget will download the document pointed to in the specified URL, plus (potentially) any documents linked from it. Paul, I saw that on the man page, But that does not download all files shown on that page when they're not linked to each other. Example (and what set me looking for a solution): I wanted to download all multilib libraries (those that allow both 34- and 64-bit applications to be built and run on the box) and the 32-bit compatible libraries. Each is a separate tarball, but the list is on a single web page. The interlinks for the files have no effect on this. I just set up what I believe is the kind of site you are accessing, based on your descriptions. A web page that is an auto generated list of files in a directory: Index of /rich_test NameLast modified Size Description Parent Directory - FCKeditor_2.6.4.tar.gz 18-Apr-2009 17:31 936K ckeditor_3.2.1.tar.gz 18-Apr-2010 07:05 1.2M favicon.ico 21-Feb-2008 19:45 7.2K fckeditor-java-2.4.1-bin.tar.gz 18-Apr-2009 17:31 780K fckeditor-java-core-2.4.1.jar 18-Apr-2009 17:31 49K michaelsnet_favico.ico 21-Feb-2008 19:45 7.2K michaelsnet_favicon.ico 21-Feb-2008 19:26 7.2K Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.19 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_perl/2.0.3 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at michaelsnet.us Port 80 and sure enough `wget http://michaelsnet.us/rich_test` fetches everything in the directory. Perhaps you could review your emails to all of us and walk through the site in question and your commands to retrieve the files. Maybe even share those examples with us so we don't have to guess about what you are actually trying to do where. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: When the going gets tough remember you've either done worse before or you're setting a new personal best. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sorting Text File By Date [SOLVED]
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 02:53:00PM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Galen Seitz wrote: If all you need to do is reverse the order of the lines, then the tac command is what you need. Thanks, Galen! When I searched with apropos I did not see that tac is cat spelled backwards. Clever ... and does the job. And if for some reason tac isn't available perl -e 'print reverse ;' FILE -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Now to decide if Portland's current dry weather (now into its fourth or fifth hour) will last long enough for ... ~ anon ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Mini PCIe netowrk card
Might any of you have a MiniPCIe Network card, hopefully an Intell 533AN available? Mine seems to be dead or dying and I'd like to swap test before getting a replacement. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. ~ Winston Churchill ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] PLUG Mailing List Indexed in Google
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:05:31AM -0800, Mike Connors wrote: Daniel Hedlund wrote: The PLUG mailing list is no longer being archived by Google. It appears to have stopped collecting data since mid last year. This was brought to my attention by Michael Rasmussen who mentioned off-list that he used Google to search the PLUG archives for arch linux but came up empty (I gave a presentation back in October on Arch so I knew something should've come up). Searching Google for +site:pdxlinux.org or +site:lists.pdxlinux.org and then restricting the results to 1 month returned nothing. Searching for 1 year returned 82 results. Something's wrong... A Google search on Arch Linux Daniel Hedlund seems to refute that claim as the PLUG mail archive of the announcement is the 7th returned result. Interestingly, Calagator is #1. That search result is from www.mail-archive.com not pdxlinux.org. The actual search terms used that uncovered this were: arch site:pdxlinux.org I'd assumed linux, though that search does turn up something about Roman history. The references to the distribution do not include Dan's talk or the meeting announcement about it. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Teacups float in hot springs ~ Michael R ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Debian and Arch Comparison
If any of you have experience running both Debian and Arch would you please provide a quick comparison of the two? The disadvantages of Ubunutu (the newly introducted desktop, the every six month re-install, the slowness of package updates for LTS versions) have finally outweighed my laziness. I'll be switching to one of those distributions and am doing my research. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: It's strange how speed stops mattering once time has no meaning. ~ Jill Homer ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Debian and Arch Comparison
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:56:12AM -0800, Daniel Hedlund wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 07:00, Michael Rasmussen mich...@jamhome.us wrote: If any of you have experience running both Debian and Arch would you please provide a quick comparison of the two? It's really going to depend on what you're looking for out of a distro and how familiar or willing you are with working on the command line. The ArchWiki has a dedicated page comparing itself to other distros: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions ...and a google search on debian vs arch returns more than you could possibly read on their forums: https://www.google.com/search?q=+site:bbs.archlinux.org+debian+vs+arch Those are excellent suggestions and prompted me to go and re-read. I'm really looking for a local data point of experience. If you go with Arch, their wiki is indispensable. Go to the wiki landing page wiki.archlinux.org and browse a couple of the getting started documents to get an idea what it'd take to get going. Next, do a search on some terms like gnome and suspend to get a better idea of what their documentation is like Note to others: Their wiki provides some really nice unbiased descriptions of options. Checking the pages for _Suspend_ or _X Desktop Environment_ for two examples. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Are you making all this up as you go along? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ISP Changes
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 01:40:46AM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: Also, we are nearing the end of the IPV4 age. Static addresses /should/ be expensive - they need to be reused and not just sat on. I invite all of you to do a whois on 199.88.144.0: whois -H 199.88.144.0 | less It's still sitting. Unused, unroutable, and I've never been asked to give it back. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Linux is not user-friendly. It _is_ user-friendly. It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly. ~ Seen somewhere on the net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ISP Changes
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 01:40:46AM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: The major disadvantage is the extra cost, but it is only a bit more than the static IP cost from most ISPs. One advantage/disadvantage is that my servers have Über-bandwidth. They can talk to each other (Dallas to Fremont) at gigabit speeds. However, if they get slashdotted, I go through my monthly bandwidth allotment in a few minutes. gandi.net offers hosting with unlimited bandwidth. Your data rate is constrained based on the plan you choose. But you can serve up as much stuff as your pipe will carry. The VMs are all XEN hosted. https://www.gandi.net/hosting/ -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: The SON28 meets German standards, which require full light output for an old lady pedaling in high-heel shoes on cobblestones with three grocery bags dangling from the handlebars. ~ Jan Heine ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ISP Changes
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 05:34:15PM -0800, Galen Seitz wrote: Comcast business: 12M/2M w 1 static IP, $83/month, estimate from web site EULA doesn't allow you to run your own web server. If that's important. Not sure about other service prohibitions. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: I was sitting in a taxi, wondering if I had overdressed for the evening, when I looked out of the window and saw Mom rooting through a Dumpster. ~ Jeannette Walls, The Glass Castle ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ISP Changes
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 09:02:56PM -0800, Galen Seitz wrote: On 01/10/2012 07:43 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 05:34:15PM -0800, Galen Seitz wrote: Comcast business: 12M/2M w 1 static IP, $83/month, estimate from web site EULA doesn't allow you to run your own web server. If that's important. Not sure about other service prohibitions. Are you sure about this? I can't find the EULA on their web site, but this page certainly suggests that running a server is acceptable. http://business.comcast.com/smb/services/Internet/ipaddress I would so love to be wrong. Checking, checking. Not finding what I remember being there. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Process matters, how you get there will effect not only the end result, but how people feel about the end result. ~ Adam Shand ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ISP Changes - loving to be wrong
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 09:02:56PM -0800, Galen Seitz wrote: On 01/10/2012 07:43 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 05:34:15PM -0800, Galen Seitz wrote: Comcast business: 12M/2M w 1 static IP, $83/month, estimate from web site EULA doesn't allow you to run your own web server. If that's important. Not sure about other service prohibitions. Are you sure about this? I can't find the EULA on their web site, but this page certainly suggests that running a server is acceptable. http://business.comcast.com/smb/services/Internet/ipaddress From their FAQ: When would I want to use Static IP? A Static IP will allow you to assign your own server or firewall with a public static-routable IP. For example, you could run an e-mail, Web, or VPN server. Learn more about Static IP e-mail, Web, or VPN is pretty clear. I'll let you know how it works out when I call them. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Be at one with the universe. If you can't do that, at least be at one with your bike. ~ Lennard Zinn ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ISP Changes
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 09:27:02PM -0800, Russell Senior wrote: Would it be wrong of me to remind everyone how BAD telecommunications policy is in this country? As if we need reminding? Especially in the current context... FWIW - I have Megapath and so far so good. But Russ Johnson's approach to getting a virtual system hosted somewhere is a way around the dilemma Rich is facing. Especially with the short notice he has. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Climbing onto a bar stool, a piece of string asked for a beer. Wait a minute. Aren't you a string? Well, yes, I am. Sorry. We don't serve strings here. The determined string left the bar and stopped a passer-by. Excuse, me, it said, would you shred my ends and tie me up like a pretzel? The passer-by obliged, and the string re-entered the bar. May I have a beer, please? it asked the bartender. The barkeep set a beer in front of the string, then suddenly stopped. Hey, aren't you the string I just threw out of here? No, I'm a frayed knot. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] ISP Changes
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:45:24PM -0800, Robert Munro wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:16:32 -0800 (PST) Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Galen Seitz wrote: Argh!!! This affects me too. Our office in Beaverton has a static IP from Spiritone/Frontier which is used for mail, web, and ssh. Any suggested alternative connections supporting static IP would be most welcome. And please make these alternative connections visible to all of us! Megapath (formerly Speakeasy and Covad) might still provision static IP addresses to residential DSL customers in the Portland area via Seattle. That is true. I switched back to them last summer and have a static block. -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Other Adventures: http://www.jamhome.us/ or http://westy.saunter.us/ Fortune Cookie Fortune du jour: Avoiding failure is not the goal. The goal is recovering from mistakes quickly. ~ Chase Jarvis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
