Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Thanks!! On 2023-08-02 21:19, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote: Steve beat me to it, I've done multiple domain names going to the same web server on a single IP, as he says nginx is pretty trivial (as I remember), Apache did it too (as I remember - not 20 years ago, but long enough ;-) On 7/10/23 01:50, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:33:36 -0700 Hi, Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the same place I have come to several times in the post. Lots of people have answered your question. If it turns out none of those answers pans out, you can have a bunch of websites on one IP. You can have index.html have a small bit of javascript to pull up a different website depending on the requested URL. If you use nginx, it's even easier because you simply configure nginx.conf to do that for you: Much cleaner. I think Apache has something similar, and 20 years ago I could tell you how to do it, but 20 years is a long time. Also, if you're speaking of web servers, many shared hosting web web hosts allow you multiple domain names. and some hosting services have all that pretty much built in. you just put your web server files in the right subdirectories (hint - there is a subdir who's name is the domain of interest), and there you go. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Steve beat me to it, I've done multiple domain names going to the same web server on a single IP, as he says nginx is pretty trivial (as I remember), Apache did it too (as I remember - not 20 years ago, but long enough ;-) On 7/10/23 01:50, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:33:36 -0700 Hi, Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the same place I have come to several times in the post. Lots of people have answered your question. If it turns out none of those answers pans out, you can have a bunch of websites on one IP. You can have index.html have a small bit of javascript to pull up a different website depending on the requested URL. If you use nginx, it's even easier because you simply configure nginx.conf to do that for you: Much cleaner. I think Apache has something similar, and 20 years ago I could tell you how to do it, but 20 years is a long time. Also, if you're speaking of web servers, many shared hosting web web hosts allow you multiple domain names. and some hosting services have all that pretty much built in. you just put your web server files in the right subdirectories (hint - there is a subdir who's name is the domain of interest), and there you go. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Thanks David!! I have a static IP. Last year I configured an old laptop with a private IP running LAMP + BIND + Postfix + Dovecot and used port forwarding. After this discussion I'm thinking I need a router capable of routing multiple IPs that would replace my consumer grade router however it is not fully clear to me. Thanks for your help!! Keith On 2023-07-09 13:50, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote: AFAIK, the Cox router can be configured to either run DHCP or as a Static IP address. Either way, it can only listen to one IP. They do run DHCP from the local hubs, but the IPs themselves rarely change, and you’re sharing them with the whole neighborhood. Most hosting providers share a single IP among multiple accounts coming into a server. There are two separate IPs for DNS hosting on a totally different server. If you want your own dedicated IP for your account, you can usually get it. But I can’t think of any that let you set up a separate IP for individual services unless they’re on separate servers in different facilities. I’ve had hosting accounts where they share a pool of IPs among hosting accounts, and I’d have up to 6 IPs, but each account only had one IP and all of the services used that one IP. The only situations I’ve heard where people are using multiple IPs is to have backup internet providers, like Cox, CenturyLink, etc, in case one of them goes down. In those cases, you need a router designed to handle multiple (usually two) WAN ports where one is primary and the other is a failover. -David Schwartz On Jul 9, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: Hi, Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the same place I have come to several times in the post. I have a business account with Cox Cable which allows me to run 1 or more servers. Last year I used an old laptop to make a web server using Ubuntu, Apache, MySQL, PHP, plus Postfix and dovecot, plus BIND. I'm a PHP dev so I felt pretty good about that achievement. I only have 1 public IP and everything on my network has a private IP. I used port forwarding to get the web server to work. Supposedly I can get multiple IPs from Cox. On several occasions I've asked the level 1 how I would configure 1 or more servers on the public IPs they can provide and they do not know how. At some point in the future I'm thinking I'd like to create a publicly facing group of PIs to run as a web server (or maybe more)... 1 for HTTPS, 1 for DNS, 1 for mail, and 1 for MySQL (on a private IP ?). I assume I would use the Cisco gizmo that has coax in and RJ45 out... the out would go into a small switch which would route each IP to the appropriate PI based on the BIND config. I assume I can plug my Netgear router into the switch that currently has multiple devices connected to it on private IPs, and which provides WIFI. I assume I can add a router in between the Cisco (modem?) and my Netgear and everything would work as it does now. The added router would then be in place to deal with any additional IP address that Cox would provide? Thanks in advance for any help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Thank you to everyone who replied. As you know I have a SOHO/business connection to COX. Last year I configured an old laptop as a web server. It was LAMP + BIND + Postfix + Dovecot. I created two name servers on a domain with my static and public IP. I then set port forwarding on my "router", and it worked. Everything in my office is on a private IP. I may never use anything more elaborate, however at some point I may want more than one IP, just for the fun of it, and the level 1's cannot tell me how to use multiple IPs. Seems it might be as simple at getting a router that can deal with multiple IP addresses and plug it into the Cox "Modem". Thanks!! Keith On 2023-07-10 09:36, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: Having supported and built cable modem systems for years (including them), Cox Business will do modems a few ways, but usually provisioning at the modem a limit quantity of mac/ip's (normally == 1) for what can pass, then you just *use* them as you would normally, either grabbing dhcp (with a new mac) or using statically assigning to the same public host as the main (ie firewall/router). If you get a contiguous /29 or larger network block/prefix from them or on your own, they'll usually give you a static ip and route that /29 prefix *at* your primary ip, so traffic knows how to get to you, then you just apply them with nat or however normally to the interface. They can also do private mpls connectivity, but that's another bag... As David said, your modem is NOT a router, mostly a Layer 1-2 bridge with some provisioned security features (DOCSIS BPI), unless it's one of their combo boxes with router/wifi built-in, but those tend to suck and you don't want to use those anyways. Any routing occurs at the Cox CMTS (cable modem termination system, your cable gateway router), or your gateway firewall/router. -mb On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 11:34 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote: Cable modems pull the signal from a coax line and turn it into an ethernet signal that comes out of a single RJ-45 plug. I dunno squat about what goes on inside of those boxes, but routers typically have a WAN port and a bunch of “internal” ports that are all RJ-45 plugs. If you can get Cox to send traffic for a group of IPs to your modem, then they should all come out the ethernet side as well, right? Remember that their modem is NOT a “router”. You can plug a router into it, tho. -David Schwartz On Jul 9, 2023, at 10:34 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: On using openwrt on legacy routers, start here, find anything that is *well* supported and hunt on ebay, or go to a thrift shop and search this list if you find a decent looking box. At one point years ago I'd scooped up several decent goodwill routers for some $5-7ea and flashed to openwrt to give to family and friends when they complained about their crappy router and wifi not working. Probably still have one or two floating around... https://openwrt.org/toh/start -mb --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Having supported and built cable modem systems for years (including them), Cox Business will do modems a few ways, but usually provisioning at the modem a limit quantity of mac/ip's (normally == 1) for what can pass, then you just *use* them as you would normally, either grabbing dhcp (with a new mac) or using statically assigning to the same public host as the main (ie firewall/router). If you get a contiguous /29 or larger network block/prefix from them or on your own, they'll usually give you a static ip and route that /29 prefix *at* your primary ip, so traffic knows how to get to you, then you just apply them with nat or however normally to the interface. They can also do private mpls connectivity, but that's another bag... As David said, your modem is NOT a router, mostly a Layer 1-2 bridge with some provisioned security features (DOCSIS BPI), unless it's one of their combo boxes with router/wifi built-in, but those tend to suck and you don't want to use those anyways. Any routing occurs at the Cox CMTS (cable modem termination system, your cable gateway router), or your gateway firewall/router. -mb On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 11:34 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Cable modems pull the signal from a coax line and turn it into an ethernet > signal that comes out of a single RJ-45 plug. > > I dunno squat about what goes on inside of those boxes, but routers > typically have a WAN port and a bunch of “internal” ports that are all > RJ-45 plugs. > > If you can get Cox to send traffic for a group of IPs to your modem, then > they should all come out the ethernet side as well, right? > > Remember that their modem is NOT a “router”. You can plug a router into > it, tho. > > -David Schwartz > > > > > On Jul 9, 2023, at 10:34 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > On using openwrt on legacy routers, start here, find anything that is > *well* supported and hunt on ebay, or go to a thrift shop and search this > list if you find a decent looking box. At one point years ago I'd scooped > up several decent goodwill routers for some $5-7ea and flashed to openwrt > to give to family and friends when they complained about their crappy > router and wifi not working. Probably still have one or two floating > around... > > https://openwrt.org/toh/start > > -mb > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:33:36 -0700 >Hi, > >Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the >same place I have come to several times in the post. > >I have a business account with Cox Cable which allows me to run 1 or >more servers. Last year I used an old laptop to make a web server >using Ubuntu, Apache, MySQL, PHP, plus Postfix and dovecot, plus BIND. > I'm a PHP dev so I felt pretty good about that achievement. > >I only have 1 public IP and everything on my network has a private IP. > I used port forwarding to get the web server to work. > >Supposedly I can get multiple IPs from Cox. On several occasions I've >asked the level 1 how I would configure 1 or more servers on the >public IPs they can provide and they do not know how. Lots of people have answered your question. If it turns out none of those answers pans out, you can have a bunch of websites on one IP. You can have index.html have a small bit of javascript to pull up a different website depending on the requested URL. If you use nginx, it's even easier because you simply configure nginx.conf to do that for you: Much cleaner. I think Apache has something similar, and 20 years ago I could tell you how to do it, but 20 years is a long time. Also, if you're speaking of web servers, many shared hosting web web hosts allow you multiple domain names. > >At some point in the future I'm thinking I'd like to create a publicly >facing group of PIs to run as a web server (or maybe more)... 1 for >HTTPS, 1 for DNS, 1 for mail, and 1 for MySQL (on a private IP ?). If the public IP addresses are unchanging, you could use the techniques I mention in my previous piece of response to direct it to the proper IP address. And if you don't like the user seeing a bare IP address, you can procure domain names for each IP address. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
you could use a switch between cox and then use any combination of rasp pi's and routers set to static IP's and maintain several firewalls Intrusion protection geo blocking ect on each but a single device is easier to maintain Linux=1000 ways to do the same thing all right and wrong depending on who you talk to. On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 11:34 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Cable modems pull the signal from a coax line and turn it into an ethernet > signal that comes out of a single RJ-45 plug. > > I dunno squat about what goes on inside of those boxes, but routers > typically have a WAN port and a bunch of “internal” ports that are all > RJ-45 plugs. > > If you can get Cox to send traffic for a group of IPs to your modem, then > they should all come out the ethernet side as well, right? > > Remember that their modem is NOT a “router”. You can plug a router into > it, tho. > > -David Schwartz > > > > > On Jul 9, 2023, at 10:34 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > On using openwrt on legacy routers, start here, find anything that is > *well* supported and hunt on ebay, or go to a thrift shop and search this > list if you find a decent looking box. At one point years ago I'd scooped > up several decent goodwill routers for some $5-7ea and flashed to openwrt > to give to family and friends when they complained about their crappy > router and wifi not working. Probably still have one or two floating > around... > > https://openwrt.org/toh/start > > -mb > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Todd Cole Ubuntu Arizona Team 2928 W El Caminito Phoenix AZ 85051-3957 to...@azloco.com 602-677-9402 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Cable modems pull the signal from a coax line and turn it into an ethernet signal that comes out of a single RJ-45 plug. I dunno squat about what goes on inside of those boxes, but routers typically have a WAN port and a bunch of “internal” ports that are all RJ-45 plugs. If you can get Cox to send traffic for a group of IPs to your modem, then they should all come out the ethernet side as well, right? Remember that their modem is NOT a “router”. You can plug a router into it, tho. -David Schwartz > On Jul 9, 2023, at 10:34 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > > On using openwrt on legacy routers, start here, find anything that is *well* > supported and hunt on ebay, or go to a thrift shop and search this list if > you find a decent looking box. At one point years ago I'd scooped up several > decent goodwill routers for some $5-7ea and flashed to openwrt to give to > family and friends when they complained about their crappy router and wifi > not working. Probably still have one or two floating around... > > https://openwrt.org/toh/start <https://openwrt.org/toh/start> > > -mb > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
On using openwrt on legacy routers, start here, find anything that is *well* supported and hunt on ebay, or go to a thrift shop and search this list if you find a decent looking box. At one point years ago I'd scooped up several decent goodwill routers for some $5-7ea and flashed to openwrt to give to family and friends when they complained about their crappy router and wifi not working. Probably still have one or two floating around... https://openwrt.org/toh/start -mb On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 10:27 PM Michael Butash wrote: > Most consumer routers won't, but the nice part is most older router > hardware *can* typically run ddwrt/openwrt that will. I often see decent > older routers at goodwill and thrift shops, or always ebay if you have a > hardware platform you want to target. Ideally find one that is dual core, > decent memory, ideally a usb 3.0 port for shenanigans, and most should be > capable of modern internet speeds. > > If nothing else, any moderately non-decrepit x86 boxes can run > pfsense/opnsense too easily enough to do this too. I have run everything > from cisco, palo alto, fortinet, *wrt's, etc as a firewall both in customer > enterprises and my house, and so far my current opnsense has become a > favorite. Certainly not a full replacement for enterprise features you get > out of the big names, but the best blend of features for both consumer and > enterprise-y features. > > I would ask the question of why you *really* need multiple ip addresses to > begin with. For all my shenanigans replicating enterprise features at my > house in 25 years, I've never needed multiple ip having hosted at times > everything from web servers, vpn, email, and everything else in between, > even when I worked for Cox and could for free. Between crafty uses of NAT, > DNS, and Certificates using proper SAN's, there's very little reason to > *need* to more than usually folks just *want* to or don't know better > aforementioned methods. > > -mb > > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 8:00 PM Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> others here are correct cheap consumer routers rarley have the option to >> handle multiple ip's >> better routers do. It is built in ipfire ( my choice of routers) on a old >> computer with 2-4 network cards or in a vm also works and I think it is >> available in >> pfsence or opensence and DDWRT just add a alias IP and then port forward >> to the server you want it togo to. >> >> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 4:44 PM James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> Buddy who ran cox business had 6 ip's. stacked them on the router and >>> provided different SNAT/DNAT to the boxes behind. There was some >>> configuration fiddliness with the modem, but this was years ago. any >>> reasonable router would be able to do this, the main question is how the >>> modem handles it. >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 1:51 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss < >>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>> >>>> AFAIK, the Cox router can be configured to either run DHCP or as a >>>> Static IP address. Either way, it can only listen to one IP. They do run >>>> DHCP from the local hubs, but the IPs themselves rarely change, and you’re >>>> sharing them with the whole neighborhood. >>>> >>>> Most hosting providers share a single IP among multiple accounts coming >>>> into a server. There are two separate IPs for DNS hosting on a totally >>>> different server. If you want your own dedicated IP for your account, you >>>> can usually get it. But I can’t think of any that let you set up a separate >>>> IP for individual services unless they’re on separate servers in different >>>> facilities. I’ve had hosting accounts where they share a pool of IPs among >>>> hosting accounts, and I’d have up to 6 IPs, but each account only had one >>>> IP and all of the services used that one IP. >>>> >>>> The only situations I’ve heard where people are using multiple IPs is >>>> to have backup internet providers, like Cox, CenturyLink, etc, in case one >>>> of them goes down. In those cases, you need a router designed to handle >>>> multiple (usually two) WAN ports where one is primary and the other is a >>>> failover. >>>> >>>> -David Schwartz >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < >>>
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Most consumer routers won't, but the nice part is most older router hardware *can* typically run ddwrt/openwrt that will. I often see decent older routers at goodwill and thrift shops, or always ebay if you have a hardware platform you want to target. Ideally find one that is dual core, decent memory, ideally a usb 3.0 port for shenanigans, and most should be capable of modern internet speeds. If nothing else, any moderately non-decrepit x86 boxes can run pfsense/opnsense too easily enough to do this too. I have run everything from cisco, palo alto, fortinet, *wrt's, etc as a firewall both in customer enterprises and my house, and so far my current opnsense has become a favorite. Certainly not a full replacement for enterprise features you get out of the big names, but the best blend of features for both consumer and enterprise-y features. I would ask the question of why you *really* need multiple ip addresses to begin with. For all my shenanigans replicating enterprise features at my house in 25 years, I've never needed multiple ip having hosted at times everything from web servers, vpn, email, and everything else in between, even when I worked for Cox and could for free. Between crafty uses of NAT, DNS, and Certificates using proper SAN's, there's very little reason to *need* to more than usually folks just *want* to or don't know better aforementioned methods. -mb On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 8:00 PM Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > others here are correct cheap consumer routers rarley have the option to > handle multiple ip's > better routers do. It is built in ipfire ( my choice of routers) on a old > computer with 2-4 network cards or in a vm also works and I think it is > available in > pfsence or opensence and DDWRT just add a alias IP and then port forward > to the server you want it togo to. > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 4:44 PM James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> Buddy who ran cox business had 6 ip's. stacked them on the router and >> provided different SNAT/DNAT to the boxes behind. There was some >> configuration fiddliness with the modem, but this was years ago. any >> reasonable router would be able to do this, the main question is how the >> modem handles it. >> >> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 1:51 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> AFAIK, the Cox router can be configured to either run DHCP or as a >>> Static IP address. Either way, it can only listen to one IP. They do run >>> DHCP from the local hubs, but the IPs themselves rarely change, and you’re >>> sharing them with the whole neighborhood. >>> >>> Most hosting providers share a single IP among multiple accounts coming >>> into a server. There are two separate IPs for DNS hosting on a totally >>> different server. If you want your own dedicated IP for your account, you >>> can usually get it. But I can’t think of any that let you set up a separate >>> IP for individual services unless they’re on separate servers in different >>> facilities. I’ve had hosting accounts where they share a pool of IPs among >>> hosting accounts, and I’d have up to 6 IPs, but each account only had one >>> IP and all of the services used that one IP. >>> >>> The only situations I’ve heard where people are using multiple IPs is to >>> have backup internet providers, like Cox, CenturyLink, etc, in case one of >>> them goes down. In those cases, you need a router designed to handle >>> multiple (usually two) WAN ports where one is primary and the other is a >>> failover. >>> >>> -David Schwartz >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < >>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the >>> same place I have come to several times in the post. >>> >>> I have a business account with Cox Cable which allows me to run 1 or >>> more servers. Last year I used an old laptop to make a web server using >>> Ubuntu, Apache, MySQL, PHP, plus Postfix and dovecot, plus BIND. I'm a PHP >>> dev so I felt pretty good about that achievement. >>> >>> I only have 1 public IP and everything on my network has a private IP. >>> I used port forwarding to get the web server to work. >>> >>> Supposedly I can get multiple IPs from Cox. On several occasions I've >>> asked the level 1 how I w
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
others here are correct cheap consumer routers rarley have the option to handle multiple ip's better routers do. It is built in ipfire ( my choice of routers) on a old computer with 2-4 network cards or in a vm also works and I think it is available in pfsence or opensence and DDWRT just add a alias IP and then port forward to the server you want it togo to. On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 4:44 PM James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Buddy who ran cox business had 6 ip's. stacked them on the router and > provided different SNAT/DNAT to the boxes behind. There was some > configuration fiddliness with the modem, but this was years ago. any > reasonable router would be able to do this, the main question is how the > modem handles it. > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 1:51 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> AFAIK, the Cox router can be configured to either run DHCP or as a Static >> IP address. Either way, it can only listen to one IP. They do run DHCP from >> the local hubs, but the IPs themselves rarely change, and you’re sharing >> them with the whole neighborhood. >> >> Most hosting providers share a single IP among multiple accounts coming >> into a server. There are two separate IPs for DNS hosting on a totally >> different server. If you want your own dedicated IP for your account, you >> can usually get it. But I can’t think of any that let you set up a separate >> IP for individual services unless they’re on separate servers in different >> facilities. I’ve had hosting accounts where they share a pool of IPs among >> hosting accounts, and I’d have up to 6 IPs, but each account only had one >> IP and all of the services used that one IP. >> >> The only situations I’ve heard where people are using multiple IPs is to >> have backup internet providers, like Cox, CenturyLink, etc, in case one of >> them goes down. In those cases, you need a router designed to handle >> multiple (usually two) WAN ports where one is primary and the other is a >> failover. >> >> -David Schwartz >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 9, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the same >> place I have come to several times in the post. >> >> I have a business account with Cox Cable which allows me to run 1 or more >> servers. Last year I used an old laptop to make a web server using Ubuntu, >> Apache, MySQL, PHP, plus Postfix and dovecot, plus BIND. I'm a PHP dev so >> I felt pretty good about that achievement. >> >> I only have 1 public IP and everything on my network has a private IP. I >> used port forwarding to get the web server to work. >> >> Supposedly I can get multiple IPs from Cox. On several occasions I've >> asked the level 1 how I would configure 1 or more servers on the public IPs >> they can provide and they do not know how. >> >> At some point in the future I'm thinking I'd like to create a publicly >> facing group of PIs to run as a web server (or maybe more)... 1 for HTTPS, >> 1 for DNS, 1 for mail, and 1 for MySQL (on a private IP ?). >> >> I assume I would use the Cisco gizmo that has coax in and RJ45 out... the >> out would go into a small switch which would route each IP to the >> appropriate PI based on the BIND config. I assume I can plug my Netgear >> router into the switch that currently has multiple devices connected to it >> on private IPs, and which provides WIFI. >> >> I assume I can add a router in between the Cisco (modem?) and my Netgear >> and everything would work as it does now. The added router would then be >> in place to deal with any additional IP address that Cox would provide? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help!! >> >> Keith >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > -- > James McPhee > jmc...@gmail.com > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Todd Cole Ubuntu Arizona Team 2928 W El Caminito Phoenix AZ 85051-3957 to...@azloco.com 602-677-9402 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Buddy who ran cox business had 6 ip's. stacked them on the router and provided different SNAT/DNAT to the boxes behind. There was some configuration fiddliness with the modem, but this was years ago. any reasonable router would be able to do this, the main question is how the modem handles it. On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 1:51 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > AFAIK, the Cox router can be configured to either run DHCP or as a Static > IP address. Either way, it can only listen to one IP. They do run DHCP from > the local hubs, but the IPs themselves rarely change, and you’re sharing > them with the whole neighborhood. > > Most hosting providers share a single IP among multiple accounts coming > into a server. There are two separate IPs for DNS hosting on a totally > different server. If you want your own dedicated IP for your account, you > can usually get it. But I can’t think of any that let you set up a separate > IP for individual services unless they’re on separate servers in different > facilities. I’ve had hosting accounts where they share a pool of IPs among > hosting accounts, and I’d have up to 6 IPs, but each account only had one > IP and all of the services used that one IP. > > The only situations I’ve heard where people are using multiple IPs is to > have backup internet providers, like Cox, CenturyLink, etc, in case one of > them goes down. In those cases, you need a router designed to handle > multiple (usually two) WAN ports where one is primary and the other is a > failover. > > -David Schwartz > > > > > On Jul 9, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the same > place I have come to several times in the post. > > I have a business account with Cox Cable which allows me to run 1 or more > servers. Last year I used an old laptop to make a web server using Ubuntu, > Apache, MySQL, PHP, plus Postfix and dovecot, plus BIND. I'm a PHP dev so > I felt pretty good about that achievement. > > I only have 1 public IP and everything on my network has a private IP. I > used port forwarding to get the web server to work. > > Supposedly I can get multiple IPs from Cox. On several occasions I've > asked the level 1 how I would configure 1 or more servers on the public IPs > they can provide and they do not know how. > > At some point in the future I'm thinking I'd like to create a publicly > facing group of PIs to run as a web server (or maybe more)... 1 for HTTPS, > 1 for DNS, 1 for mail, and 1 for MySQL (on a private IP ?). > > I assume I would use the Cisco gizmo that has coax in and RJ45 out... the > out would go into a small switch which would route each IP to the > appropriate PI based on the BIND config. I assume I can plug my Netgear > router into the switch that currently has multiple devices connected to it > on private IPs, and which provides WIFI. > > I assume I can add a router in between the Cisco (modem?) and my Netgear > and everything would work as it does now. The added router would then be > in place to deal with any additional IP address that Cox would provide? > > Thanks in advance for any help!! > > Keith > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
AFAIK, the Cox router can be configured to either run DHCP or as a Static IP address. Either way, it can only listen to one IP. They do run DHCP from the local hubs, but the IPs themselves rarely change, and you’re sharing them with the whole neighborhood. Most hosting providers share a single IP among multiple accounts coming into a server. There are two separate IPs for DNS hosting on a totally different server. If you want your own dedicated IP for your account, you can usually get it. But I can’t think of any that let you set up a separate IP for individual services unless they’re on separate servers in different facilities. I’ve had hosting accounts where they share a pool of IPs among hosting accounts, and I’d have up to 6 IPs, but each account only had one IP and all of the services used that one IP. The only situations I’ve heard where people are using multiple IPs is to have backup internet providers, like Cox, CenturyLink, etc, in case one of them goes down. In those cases, you need a router designed to handle multiple (usually two) WAN ports where one is primary and the other is a failover. -David Schwartz > On Jul 9, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > > Hi, > > Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the same > place I have come to several times in the post. > > I have a business account with Cox Cable which allows me to run 1 or more > servers. Last year I used an old laptop to make a web server using Ubuntu, > Apache, MySQL, PHP, plus Postfix and dovecot, plus BIND. I'm a PHP dev so I > felt pretty good about that achievement. > > I only have 1 public IP and everything on my network has a private IP. I > used port forwarding to get the web server to work. > > Supposedly I can get multiple IPs from Cox. On several occasions I've asked > the level 1 how I would configure 1 or more servers on the public IPs they > can provide and they do not know how. > > At some point in the future I'm thinking I'd like to create a publicly facing > group of PIs to run as a web server (or maybe more)... 1 for HTTPS, 1 for > DNS, 1 for mail, and 1 for MySQL (on a private IP ?). > > I assume I would use the Cisco gizmo that has coax in and RJ45 out... the out > would go into a small switch which would route each IP to the appropriate PI > based on the BIND config. I assume I can plug my Netgear router into the > switch that currently has multiple devices connected to it on private IPs, > and which provides WIFI. > > I assume I can add a router in between the Cisco (modem?) and my Netgear and > everything would work as it does now. The added router would then be in > place to deal with any additional IP address that Cox would provide? > > Thanks in advance for any help!! > > Keith > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Public raspberrypi https/mail/dns... on Cox Cable
Hi, Was looking at the raspberrypi this morning and it brought me to the same place I have come to several times in the post. I have a business account with Cox Cable which allows me to run 1 or more servers. Last year I used an old laptop to make a web server using Ubuntu, Apache, MySQL, PHP, plus Postfix and dovecot, plus BIND. I'm a PHP dev so I felt pretty good about that achievement. I only have 1 public IP and everything on my network has a private IP. I used port forwarding to get the web server to work. Supposedly I can get multiple IPs from Cox. On several occasions I've asked the level 1 how I would configure 1 or more servers on the public IPs they can provide and they do not know how. At some point in the future I'm thinking I'd like to create a publicly facing group of PIs to run as a web server (or maybe more)... 1 for HTTPS, 1 for DNS, 1 for mail, and 1 for MySQL (on a private IP ?). I assume I would use the Cisco gizmo that has coax in and RJ45 out... the out would go into a small switch which would route each IP to the appropriate PI based on the BIND config. I assume I can plug my Netgear router into the switch that currently has multiple devices connected to it on private IPs, and which provides WIFI. I assume I can add a router in between the Cisco (modem?) and my Netgear and everything would work as it does now. The added router would then be in place to deal with any additional IP address that Cox would provide? Thanks in advance for any help!! Keith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
Another thought is build your own mailserver for outbound email and connect it to a Cox smart host. Then use internal DNS to route to it. On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 9:16 AM Donald Mac McCarthy wrote: > Mike, > Instead of turning off VPN to send email, you could put in a more > specific route so that you don't have to loose your VPN for all outgoing > connections while sending mail. > > Mac > > mike enriquez wrote on 10/15/19 6:38 AM: > > I found my Cox smtp problem. Cox was having trouble with reverse DNS > locating my IP address. I turned off my VPN and I can send out email. I am > going to turn on my VPN. If I have to choose I will select VPN over SMTP > problems. > > Thanks to all who replied. > > Mike Enriquez > On 10/14/19 7:38 PM, Thomas Scott wrote: > > Cox's email platform was recently upgraded, I'd check to see if you're > using TLS instead of the SSL 3.0 and below. I would third the > recommendation to get off of Cox's email platform, and I'm writing this > sitting in Cox's Atlanta NOC. From what I've seen, our IT/Data side is > moving away from anything customer facing that isn't automated and revenue > friendly - e-mail is a part of that bit bucket. > > > <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> > Thomas Scott > about.me/thomas.scott > <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> > <http://about.me/thomas.scott> > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:26 PM mike enriquez wrote: > >> Cox has new policies. A friend in my area uses incredimail and he has the >> same issues with cox. >> >> I can receive email but I cannot send it out. I am currently using Cox >> Webmail. >> >> Thanks for the comments everyone. >> >> Mike Enriquez >> >> On October 14, 2019 at 8:52 PM Matthew Crews >> wrote: >> >> >> On 10/14/19 10:55 AM, mike enriquez wrote: >> >> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. The SMTP >> server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux >> computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send email out. >> >> I am sending this via Web-mail. >> >> Does anyone have and ideas I should try. >> >> >> That's odd. I used Cox email for years with Thunderbird without issues. >> Maybe they changed something on their back end? >> >> Are you sure you are connecting to the correct SMTP server? >> >> Also Cox should not care what operating system you are using. >> Thunderbird is OS agnostic software. Their instructions for using >> Thunderbird on Windows should be sufficient. >> >> -Matt >> >> -- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > settings:https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
Mike, Instead of turning off VPN to send email, you could put in a more specific route so that you don't have to loose your VPN for all outgoing connections while sending mail. Mac mike enriquez wrote on 10/15/19 6:38 AM: > > I found my Cox smtp problem. Cox was having trouble with reverse DNS > locating my IP address. I turned off my VPN and I can send out email. > I am going to turn on my VPN. If I have to choose I will select VPN > over SMTP problems. > > Thanks to all who replied. > > Mike Enriquez > > On 10/14/19 7:38 PM, Thomas Scott wrote: >> Cox's email platform was recently upgraded, I'd check to see if >> you're using TLS instead of the SSL 3.0 and below. I would third the >> recommendation to get off of Cox's email platform, and I'm writing >> this sitting in Cox's Atlanta NOC. From what I've seen, our IT/Data >> side is moving away from anything customer facing that isn't >> automated and revenue friendly - e-mail is a part of that bit bucket. >> >> <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> >> >> Thomas Scott >> about.me/thomas.scott >> <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:26 PM mike enriquez > <mailto:myli...@cox.net>> wrote: >> >> Cox has new policies. A friend in my area uses incredimail and he >> has the same issues with cox. >> >> I can receive email but I cannot send it out. I am currently >> using Cox Webmail. >> >> Thanks for the comments everyone. >> >> Mike Enriquez >> >>> On October 14, 2019 at 8:52 PM Matthew Crews >>> mailto:mailingli...@mattcrews.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 10/14/19 10:55 AM, mike enriquez wrote: >>>> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. >>>> The SMTP >>>> server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux >>>> computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send >>>> email out. >>>> >>>> I am sending this via Web-mail. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have and ideas I should try. >>> >>> That's odd. I used Cox email for years with Thunderbird without >>> issues. >>> Maybe they changed something on their back end? >>> >>> Are you sure you are connecting to the correct SMTP server? >>> >>> Also Cox should not care what operating system you are using. >>> Thunderbird is OS agnostic software. Their instructions for using >>> Thunderbird on Windows should be sufficient. >>> >>> -Matt >>> >>> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
I found my Cox smtp problem. Cox was having trouble with reverse DNS locating my IP address. I turned off my VPN and I can send out email. I am going to turn on my VPN. If I have to choose I will select VPN over SMTP problems. Thanks to all who replied. Mike Enriquez On 10/14/19 7:38 PM, Thomas Scott wrote: Cox's email platform was recently upgraded, I'd check to see if you're using TLS instead of the SSL 3.0 and below. I would third the recommendation to get off of Cox's email platform, and I'm writing this sitting in Cox's Atlanta NOC. From what I've seen, our IT/Data side is moving away from anything customer facing that isn't automated and revenue friendly - e-mail is a part of that bit bucket. <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> Thomas Scott about.me/thomas.scott <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:26 PM mike enriquez <mailto:myli...@cox.net>> wrote: Cox has new policies. A friend in my area uses incredimail and he has the same issues with cox. I can receive email but I cannot send it out. I am currently using Cox Webmail. Thanks for the comments everyone. Mike Enriquez On October 14, 2019 at 8:52 PM Matthew Crews mailto:mailingli...@mattcrews.com>> wrote: On 10/14/19 10:55 AM, mike enriquez wrote: I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. The SMTP server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send email out. I am sending this via Web-mail. Does anyone have and ideas I should try. That's odd. I used Cox email for years with Thunderbird without issues. Maybe they changed something on their back end? Are you sure you are connecting to the correct SMTP server? Also Cox should not care what operating system you are using. Thunderbird is OS agnostic software. Their instructions for using Thunderbird on Windows should be sufficient. -Matt PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
I run apple’s mail app here and have never run into any problems with cox email services (residential or business). About the only issues I might have are usually something on their end and when they ask me what OS and client I am using, I always respond with windows and outlook. Since I know apple’s mail app inside and out, anything they might suggest for Windows/outlook should work with only a few minor changes. However, since I went to cox business, I have not used their email at all. Pretty much everything I do is via either gmail, proton mail or outlook.com I have many of the same settings for Linux using any of the half dozen or so available email clients (including pine) Honestly I would rather run with an external mail service that supports a multiple of security options and also support many more clients. Cox likes to stick to a script and only a few specific clients and if you even mention linux, they won’t even bother talking to you (they don’t have any support staff officially that offer support in linux). -Eric From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Mail services Dept. > On Oct 14, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Thomas Scott wrote: > > Cox's email platform was recently upgraded, I'd check to see if you're using > TLS instead of the SSL 3.0 and below. I would third the recommendation to get > off of Cox's email platform, and I'm writing this sitting in Cox's Atlanta > NOC. From what I've seen, our IT/Data side is moving away from anything > customer facing that isn't automated and revenue friendly - e-mail is a part > of that bit bucket. > > > Thomas Scott > about.me/thomas.scott > <http://about.me/thomas.scott> > <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> > > Thomas Scott > about.me/thomas.scott > <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:26 PM mike enriquez <mailto:myli...@cox.net>> wrote: > Cox has new policies. A friend in my area uses incredimail and he has the > same issues with cox. > > I can receive email but I cannot send it out. I am currently using Cox > Webmail. > > Thanks for the comments everyone. > > Mike Enriquez > >> On October 14, 2019 at 8:52 PM Matthew Crews > <mailto:mailingli...@mattcrews.com>> wrote: >> >> >> On 10/14/19 10:55 AM, mike enriquez wrote: >>> >>> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. The SMTP >>> server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux >>> computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send email out. >>> >>> I am sending this via Web-mail. >>> >>> Does anyone have and ideas I should try. >> >> That's odd. I used Cox email for years with Thunderbird without issues. >> Maybe they changed something on their back end? >> >> Are you sure you are connecting to the correct SMTP server? >> >> Also Cox should not care what operating system you are using. >> Thunderbird is OS agnostic software. Their instructions for using >> Thunderbird on Windows should be sufficient. >> >> -Matt >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> <https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > <https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss>--- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
Cox's email platform was recently upgraded, I'd check to see if you're using TLS instead of the SSL 3.0 and below. I would third the recommendation to get off of Cox's email platform, and I'm writing this sitting in Cox's Atlanta NOC. From what I've seen, our IT/Data side is moving away from anything customer facing that isn't automated and revenue friendly - e-mail is a part of that bit bucket. <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> Thomas Scott about.me/thomas.scott <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb> <http://about.me/thomas.scott> On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:26 PM mike enriquez wrote: > Cox has new policies. A friend in my area uses incredimail and he has the > same issues with cox. > > I can receive email but I cannot send it out. I am currently using Cox > Webmail. > > Thanks for the comments everyone. > > Mike Enriquez > > On October 14, 2019 at 8:52 PM Matthew Crews > wrote: > > > On 10/14/19 10:55 AM, mike enriquez wrote: > > I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. The SMTP > server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux > computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send email out. > > I am sending this via Web-mail. > > Does anyone have and ideas I should try. > > > That's odd. I used Cox email for years with Thunderbird without issues. > Maybe they changed something on their back end? > > Are you sure you are connecting to the correct SMTP server? > > Also Cox should not care what operating system you are using. > Thunderbird is OS agnostic software. Their instructions for using > Thunderbird on Windows should be sufficient. > > -Matt > > -- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
Cox has new policies. A friend in my area uses incredimail and he has the same issues with cox. I can receive email but I cannot send it out. I am currently using Cox Webmail. Thanks for the comments everyone. Mike Enriquez > On October 14, 2019 at 8:52 PM Matthew Crews mailto:mailingli...@mattcrews.com > wrote: > > > On 10/14/19 10:55 AM, mike enriquez wrote: > > > > I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. > The SMTP > > server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux > > computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send email > > out. > > > > I am sending this via Web-mail. > > > > Does anyone have and ideas I should try. > > > > > That's odd. I used Cox email for years with Thunderbird without > > issues. > Maybe they changed something on their back end? > > Are you sure you are connecting to the correct SMTP server? > > Also Cox should not care what operating system you are using. > Thunderbird is OS agnostic software. Their instructions for using > Thunderbird on Windows should be sufficient. > > -Matt > > > - > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
On 10/14/19 12:38 PM, Matt Graham wrote: > Also, using an ISP mail account as your main mail account is fraught > with peril. What happens when you move to another place that has a > different ISP? I run my own mail sewer, but I know not everyone can do > that. Google are evil, but gmail is reliable and costs $0. > I couldn't agree more. Using your ISP as your email account is going to spell disaster if you ever move to a new location. Although I don't run my own email server, I do have my own custom domain, and I pay other companies to run it for me. That way I do not have a single point-of-failure. Aside from the obvious choice in Gmail, if you are interested in paid options, I would recommend Mailfence. Their price is reasonable for their features, and they are fairly privacy oriented. Protonmail is another good alternative. -Matt signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
On 10/14/19 10:55 AM, mike enriquez wrote: > I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. The SMTP > server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux > computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send email out. > > I am sending this via Web-mail. > > Does anyone have and ideas I should try. > That's odd. I used Cox email for years with Thunderbird without issues. Maybe they changed something on their back end? Are you sure you are connecting to the correct SMTP server? Also Cox should not care what operating system you are using. Thunderbird is OS agnostic software. Their instructions for using Thunderbird on Windows should be sufficient. -Matt signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
On 2019-10-14 10:55, mike enriquez wrote: I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. The SMTP server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send email out. Did you read https://www.cox.com/residential/support/changing-your-email-server-settings-for-mozilla-thunderbird.html and follow the instructions there? It looks like you need to use 465 as the TCP port and smtp.cox.net as the server, and to have it set to use SSL/TLS. You didn't say anything about incoming mail, but that's port 993 and (probably) imap.cox.net . Also, using an ISP mail account as your main mail account is fraught with peril. What happens when you move to another place that has a different ISP? I run my own mail sewer, but I know not everyone can do that. Google are evil, but gmail is reliable and costs $0. -- Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress There is no Darkness in Eternity But only Light too dim for us to see. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 13:55:56 -0400 (EDT) mike enriquez wrote: > I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. The > SMTP server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a > Linux computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send > email out. > > I am sending this via Web-mail. > > Does anyone have and ideas I should try. > I'm assuming the timeout is real: A few seconds, not subsecond. If so, one of the many things to check is your dns and especially your reverse dns. I've seen reverse misconfigured dns cause a lot of timeouts. SteveT Steve Litt Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Ubutu cox and Thunderbird?
I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and Thunderbird email client. The SMTP server keeps timing out. Cox cannot help me because I have a Linux computer. I changed the Port numbers and still I cannot send email out. I am sending this via Web-mail. Does anyone have and ideas I should try. Thanks Mike Enriquez --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Local Cox Business Broken Internet
Hi all, Working with a customer today, I noticed today an odd issue with cox, where business customers that use the local phoenix egress path out Level 3 have been impacted to some extent at least today, and not sure how much longer. Sadly I got a ticket opened on the issue as the only person to notice inside or outside, and they found a much bigger issue, but they're still working on it supposedly. Just a heads up, ask for some credit as their local internet peering is having severe packet loss. ;) mtr --report 204.93.49.54 Start: 2018-04-19T15:05:36-0700 HOST: hostLoss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- _gateway 0.0%100.3 0.4 0.3 0.7 0.1 2.|-- ??? 100.0100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.|-- 100.127.76.8 0.0%109.0 11.2 9.0 21.9 3.9 4.|-- 100.120.100.24 0.0%10 12.6 20.5 9.4 79.4 21.3 5.|-- lag-194.bear1.Phoenix1.Le 50.0%10 17.6 12.8 9.9 17.6 2.9 6.|-- ??? 100.0100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.|-- GTT-level3-2x10G.LosAngel 0.0%10 29.1 30.6 25.5 34.7 2.6 8.|-- ??? 100.0100.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 -mb --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
*Cryptocurrences. Andrew McRobb Full-time Software Developer Part-time Freelancer On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Andrew McRobb wrote: > > I am also giving serious thought to bit coin mining here. About all I need >> is a Rasberry Pie, a linux image for BT mining and some USB stick hash >> generators.. >> > > Sounds like it should only take you a few years to get your first profit. > ;) In all seriousness, I think you have to have a legit GPU farm using > something like a few Nvidia 10xx series if you want to see any return on > your investment. Fun, if you are trying to get into it in general, from my > experience. I've been doing Storjshare for a few months, and got some money > in returned. My current farm at the moment, is using an old Dell 32bit > Debian distro running 2 nodes inside of it. Great cheap way to get into > concurrences. > > > Andrew McRobb > Full-time Software Developer > Part-time Freelancer > > On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> I will definitely check with my contact in cox biz. >> >> so far, I am pleased with what I have here. Sure, it's a tad more >> expensive for the biz class, but then, I don't have to worry about the >> sliding IP of residential, or all the blocked ports and even the new usage >> caps (which can get rather expensive per GB over limit). The other room >> mates have fallen into a pattern of now knowing how to work the chrome cast >> unit and are not willing to go back to the old video offering. One enjoys >> his left wing news, the other enjoys his right wing news, the third enjoys >> his gaming on secret world, WoW and others. As for me, I am just doing a >> lot of reading on the finer points of the law with regard to some issues I >> have been reading on (the collusion issue and some others). >> >> btw, I am also seriously considering signing up as a DMCA agent (courtesy >> of the FSF) so that I can host a torrent stream of the more popular Linux >> torrent transfers. This way, should the ISP (cox) object, I can show them >> the paperwork and they could go back to whoever complained and say "too >> bad, so sad…" >> >> I am also giving serious thought to bit coin mining here. About all I >> need is a Rasberry Pie, a linux image for BT mining and some USB stick hash >> generators.. >> >> anyway, that's all I plan on using my Cox connection for just now. I >> might also register a website and host from here as well (a spare laptop >> acting as a web server is pretty easy to do). >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Signs and Portents >> Division. >> >> On Dec 16, 2017, at 8:00 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > On 2017-12-15 18:21, der.hans wrote: >> >> Am 18. Nov, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: >> >> moin moin, >> >> does Cox Business still want a one year cancellation notice? >> > >> > I have Cox Home Office. Initially I was on a contract of 1, 2, or 3 >> years - my choice and the price got better the longer the contract. I am >> now month to month. They offered me 1/2 a month off for the 1st month of >> the 12 month contract so I will probably do it. Oh, and when they called I >> was told month to month was going to go up 10% over having a contract. I >> wonder if that was just a salesman ploy. The irony is I have no other >> options for high speed internet. >> > >> > It is my understanding Home Office and Cox Business are the same except >> pricing. Cox Business is more expensive from what I have been told. >> > >> > When I switched from a consumer plan about 5 or 6 years ago the cost >> went up $25/mo. I was thinking I was going to run a server never did. >> It still is handy to not have any blocked ports because I can setup a test >> server and run it as needed. >> > >> > And I have less outages. I've been using Cox for high speed internet >> and have no problems. But then I do not push things to the limit >> > >> > >> > >> >> Cox Business wanted a new contract to move the service and the new >> >> contract stipulated a 12 month notice for cancellation. I moved to >> Century >> >> Link :). >> >> Cox also completely borked up my cancellation of the old service and it >> >> took me 6 months to get them to actually cancel my service and give me >> my >> >> money back. They lost the paperwork and threatened me with collections >> >> on a cancelled servi
Re: Cox Gigablast
I am also giving serious thought to bit coin mining here. About all I need > is a Rasberry Pie, a linux image for BT mining and some USB stick hash > generators.. > Sounds like it should only take you a few years to get your first profit. ;) In all seriousness, I think you have to have a legit GPU farm using something like a few Nvidia 10xx series if you want to see any return on your investment. Fun, if you are trying to get into it in general, from my experience. I've been doing Storjshare for a few months, and got some money in returned. My current farm at the moment, is using an old Dell 32bit Debian distro running 2 nodes inside of it. Great cheap way to get into concurrences. Andrew McRobb Full-time Software Developer Part-time Freelancer On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > I will definitely check with my contact in cox biz. > > so far, I am pleased with what I have here. Sure, it's a tad more > expensive for the biz class, but then, I don't have to worry about the > sliding IP of residential, or all the blocked ports and even the new usage > caps (which can get rather expensive per GB over limit). The other room > mates have fallen into a pattern of now knowing how to work the chrome cast > unit and are not willing to go back to the old video offering. One enjoys > his left wing news, the other enjoys his right wing news, the third enjoys > his gaming on secret world, WoW and others. As for me, I am just doing a > lot of reading on the finer points of the law with regard to some issues I > have been reading on (the collusion issue and some others). > > btw, I am also seriously considering signing up as a DMCA agent (courtesy > of the FSF) so that I can host a torrent stream of the more popular Linux > torrent transfers. This way, should the ISP (cox) object, I can show them > the paperwork and they could go back to whoever complained and say "too > bad, so sad…" > > I am also giving serious thought to bit coin mining here. About all I need > is a Rasberry Pie, a linux image for BT mining and some USB stick hash > generators.. > > anyway, that's all I plan on using my Cox connection for just now. I might > also register a website and host from here as well (a spare laptop acting > as a web server is pretty easy to do). > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Signs and Portents > Division. > > On Dec 16, 2017, at 8:00 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > > > > > > > On 2017-12-15 18:21, der.hans wrote: > >> Am 18. Nov, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: > >> moin moin, > >> does Cox Business still want a one year cancellation notice? > > > > I have Cox Home Office. Initially I was on a contract of 1, 2, or 3 > years - my choice and the price got better the longer the contract. I am > now month to month. They offered me 1/2 a month off for the 1st month of > the 12 month contract so I will probably do it. Oh, and when they called I > was told month to month was going to go up 10% over having a contract. I > wonder if that was just a salesman ploy. The irony is I have no other > options for high speed internet. > > > > It is my understanding Home Office and Cox Business are the same except > pricing. Cox Business is more expensive from what I have been told. > > > > When I switched from a consumer plan about 5 or 6 years ago the cost > went up $25/mo. I was thinking I was going to run a server never did. > It still is handy to not have any blocked ports because I can setup a test > server and run it as needed. > > > > And I have less outages. I've been using Cox for high speed internet > and have no problems. But then I do not push things to the limit > > > > > > > >> Cox Business wanted a new contract to move the service and the new > >> contract stipulated a 12 month notice for cancellation. I moved to > Century > >> Link :). > >> Cox also completely borked up my cancellation of the old service and it > >> took me 6 months to get them to actually cancel my service and give me > my > >> money back. They lost the paperwork and threatened me with collections > >> on a cancelled service with a balance that they owed me. Luckily, I had > >> made sure to get an email acking my cacellation at the beginning. > >> ciao, > >> der.hans > >>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is > my contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the > hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have > access to the fiber that you want. > >>> now, sure, most of the tier
Re: Cox Gigablast
I will definitely check with my contact in cox biz. so far, I am pleased with what I have here. Sure, it's a tad more expensive for the biz class, but then, I don't have to worry about the sliding IP of residential, or all the blocked ports and even the new usage caps (which can get rather expensive per GB over limit). The other room mates have fallen into a pattern of now knowing how to work the chrome cast unit and are not willing to go back to the old video offering. One enjoys his left wing news, the other enjoys his right wing news, the third enjoys his gaming on secret world, WoW and others. As for me, I am just doing a lot of reading on the finer points of the law with regard to some issues I have been reading on (the collusion issue and some others). btw, I am also seriously considering signing up as a DMCA agent (courtesy of the FSF) so that I can host a torrent stream of the more popular Linux torrent transfers. This way, should the ISP (cox) object, I can show them the paperwork and they could go back to whoever complained and say "too bad, so sad…" I am also giving serious thought to bit coin mining here. About all I need is a Rasberry Pie, a linux image for BT mining and some USB stick hash generators.. anyway, that's all I plan on using my Cox connection for just now. I might also register a website and host from here as well (a spare laptop acting as a web server is pretty easy to do). -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Signs and Portents Division. On Dec 16, 2017, at 8:00 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > > > On 2017-12-15 18:21, der.hans wrote: >> Am 18. Nov, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: >> moin moin, >> does Cox Business still want a one year cancellation notice? > > I have Cox Home Office. Initially I was on a contract of 1, 2, or 3 years - > my choice and the price got better the longer the contract. I am now month > to month. They offered me 1/2 a month off for the 1st month of the 12 month > contract so I will probably do it. Oh, and when they called I was told month > to month was going to go up 10% over having a contract. I wonder if that was > just a salesman ploy. The irony is I have no other options for high speed > internet. > > It is my understanding Home Office and Cox Business are the same except > pricing. Cox Business is more expensive from what I have been told. > > When I switched from a consumer plan about 5 or 6 years ago the cost went up > $25/mo. I was thinking I was going to run a server never did. It still > is handy to not have any blocked ports because I can setup a test server and > run it as needed. > > And I have less outages. I've been using Cox for high speed internet and > have no problems. But then I do not push things to the limit > > > >> Cox Business wanted a new contract to move the service and the new >> contract stipulated a 12 month notice for cancellation. I moved to Century >> Link :). >> Cox also completely borked up my cancellation of the old service and it >> took me 6 months to get them to actually cancel my service and give me my >> money back. They lost the paperwork and threatened me with collections >> on a cancelled service with a balance that they owed me. Luckily, I had >> made sure to get an email acking my cacellation at the beginning. >> ciao, >> der.hans >>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the >>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have >>> access to the fiber that you want. >>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are >>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they >>> all have to run from a script. >>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who >>> referred you. >>> Eric OYen >>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services >>> referrals Dept. >>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>>> Asked for a supervisor. >>>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>>>> Kind of irritated by this ... >>>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in >>>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... >>>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... >>>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... >>>>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney >>>>> I called them each week and spoke to cus
Re: Cox Gigablast
On 2017-12-15 18:21, der.hans wrote: Am 18. Nov, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: moin moin, does Cox Business still want a one year cancellation notice? I have Cox Home Office. Initially I was on a contract of 1, 2, or 3 years - my choice and the price got better the longer the contract. I am now month to month. They offered me 1/2 a month off for the 1st month of the 12 month contract so I will probably do it. Oh, and when they called I was told month to month was going to go up 10% over having a contract. I wonder if that was just a salesman ploy. The irony is I have no other options for high speed internet. It is my understanding Home Office and Cox Business are the same except pricing. Cox Business is more expensive from what I have been told. When I switched from a consumer plan about 5 or 6 years ago the cost went up $25/mo. I was thinking I was going to run a server never did. It still is handy to not have any blocked ports because I can setup a test server and run it as needed. And I have less outages. I've been using Cox for high speed internet and have no problems. But then I do not push things to the limit Cox Business wanted a new contract to move the service and the new contract stipulated a 12 month notice for cancellation. I moved to Century Link :). Cox also completely borked up my cancellation of the old service and it took me 6 months to get them to actually cancel my service and give me my money back. They lost the paperwork and threatened me with collections on a cancelled service with a balance that they owed me. Luckily, I had made sure to get an email acking my cacellation at the beginning. ciao, der.hans you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have access to the fiber that you want. now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they all have to run from a script. anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who referred you. Eric OYen from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Asked for a supervisor. On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: Kind of irritated by this ... Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to be less informed than the guy last week ... Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a bandwidth a month. Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why can't I have this happiness? Sincerely, AloneAndHopless ... ;-) Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # "You go to Afghanistan and you swallow enough dust that you'll pass an # adobe brick." -- Robin Williams, 03Aug2006 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
With my domain hosting at google domains they have an option to take all domain.thing and www.domain.thing and direct it all to a single URL, HTTP or HTTPS which I can then use to run a dynamic DNS link at home. in this case, they support a dynamic DNS directly. so that works out really nicely On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Michael Butash wrote: > Ah, that's an interesting conundrum, haven't had to setup a website in a > good while since I let lapse my digitalocean instance, wasn't so much an > issue there. > > Guess there's always reverse proxies for that if a necessity. It was just > easier to put stuff like that out on a cheap instance somewhere I used > occasionally than fight cox anyways. > > -mb > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Stephen Partington > wrote: > >> the only thing I care about for HTTP at all is my Synology letsencypt >> cert call requires 80, and only 80. >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Michael Butash >> wrote: >> >>> Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight >>> ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when >>> allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back >>> then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering >>> https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life >>> easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your >>> users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect >>> service in front as mentioned. >>> >>> Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my >>> hosts vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives >>> me always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my >>> SDN network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various >>> pi/arm linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients >>> for free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my >>> hosts, minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions). >>> >>> I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering >>> on kickstarter even. >>> >>> -mb >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington < >>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and >>>> a port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans wrote: >>>> >>>>> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so: >>>>> >>>>> moin moin, >>>>> >>>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>>>> this >>>>>> for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not >>>>> using Cox residential :). >>>>> >>>>> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. >>>>> You >>>>> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked. >>>>> >>>>> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all >>>>> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25. >>>>> >>>>> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or >>>>> SMTP services. >>>>> >>>>> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll >>>>> have >>>>> to contact them to request RR records. >>>>> >>>>> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I >>>>> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One >>>>> was >>>>> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years >>>>> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer >>>>> service. >>>>> >>>>> ciao, >>>>> >>>>> der.hans >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -er
Re: Cox Gigablast
Ah, that's an interesting conundrum, haven't had to setup a website in a good while since I let lapse my digitalocean instance, wasn't so much an issue there. Guess there's always reverse proxies for that if a necessity. It was just easier to put stuff like that out on a cheap instance somewhere I used occasionally than fight cox anyways. -mb On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > the only thing I care about for HTTP at all is my Synology letsencypt cert > call requires 80, and only 80. > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Michael Butash > wrote: > >> Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight >> ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when >> allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back >> then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering >> https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life >> easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your >> users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect service >> in front as mentioned. >> >> Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my >> hosts vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives >> me always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my >> SDN network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various >> pi/arm linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients >> for free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my >> hosts, minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions). >> >> I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering >> on kickstarter even. >> >> -mb >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington > > wrote: >> >>> My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and a >>> port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans wrote: >>> >>>> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so: >>>> >>>> moin moin, >>>> >>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>>> this >>>>> for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not >>>> using Cox residential :). >>>> >>>> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You >>>> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked. >>>> >>>> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all >>>> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25. >>>> >>>> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or >>>> SMTP services. >>>> >>>> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll >>>> have >>>> to contact them to request RR records. >>>> >>>> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I >>>> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was >>>> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years >>>> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer >>>> service. >>>> >>>> ciao, >>>> >>>> der.hans >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>>>>> from >>>>>> here Dept. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting >>>>>> company >>>>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around >>>>>> the >>>>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> yep. :) >>
Re: Cox Gigablast
It will use 80 and fallback to 443 the synology clients just does 443 On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Todd Cole wrote: > I think lets encrypt only uses port 80 outbound and 443 outbound so one > should be able to use it on any port incoming but to be honest most of my > servers are personal self signed on irregular ports > and the few public servers are lets encrypt with a external redirect so > that it is easier to maintain at home...1Thousand ways to do the same > thing > https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/required-ports-to-run- > lets-encrypt/36101/3 > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Stephen Partington > wrote: > >> the only thing I care about for HTTP at all is my Synology letsencypt >> cert call requires 80, and only 80. >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Michael Butash >> wrote: >> >>> Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight >>> ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when >>> allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back >>> then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering >>> https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life >>> easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your >>> users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect >>> service in front as mentioned. >>> >>> Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my >>> hosts vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives >>> me always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my >>> SDN network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various >>> pi/arm linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients >>> for free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my >>> hosts, minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions). >>> >>> I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering >>> on kickstarter even. >>> >>> -mb >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington < >>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and >>>> a port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans wrote: >>>> >>>>> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so: >>>>> >>>>> moin moin, >>>>> >>>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>>>> this >>>>>> for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not >>>>> using Cox residential :). >>>>> >>>>> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. >>>>> You >>>>> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked. >>>>> >>>>> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all >>>>> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25. >>>>> >>>>> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or >>>>> SMTP services. >>>>> >>>>> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll >>>>> have >>>>> to contact them to request RR records. >>>>> >>>>> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I >>>>> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One >>>>> was >>>>> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years >>>>> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer >>>>> service. >>>>> >>>>> ciao, >>>>> >>>>> der.hans >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -eric >>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get >>>>>>> there from >>>>>>>
Re: Cox Gigablast
I think lets encrypt only uses port 80 outbound and 443 outbound so one should be able to use it on any port incoming but to be honest most of my servers are personal self signed on irregular ports and the few public servers are lets encrypt with a external redirect so that it is easier to maintain at home...1Thousand ways to do the same thing https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/required-ports-to-run-lets-encrypt/36101/3 On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > the only thing I care about for HTTP at all is my Synology letsencypt cert > call requires 80, and only 80. > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Michael Butash > wrote: > >> Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight >> ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when >> allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back >> then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering >> https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life >> easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your >> users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect service >> in front as mentioned. >> >> Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my >> hosts vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives >> me always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my >> SDN network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various >> pi/arm linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients >> for free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my >> hosts, minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions). >> >> I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering >> on kickstarter even. >> >> -mb >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington > > wrote: >> >>> My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and a >>> port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans wrote: >>> >>>> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so: >>>> >>>> moin moin, >>>> >>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>>> this >>>>> for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not >>>> using Cox residential :). >>>> >>>> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You >>>> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked. >>>> >>>> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all >>>> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25. >>>> >>>> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or >>>> SMTP services. >>>> >>>> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll >>>> have >>>> to contact them to request RR records. >>>> >>>> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I >>>> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was >>>> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years >>>> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer >>>> service. >>>> >>>> ciao, >>>> >>>> der.hans >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>>>>> from >>>>>> here Dept. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting >>>>>> company >>>>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around >>>>>> the >>>>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>
Re: Cox Gigablast
the only thing I care about for HTTP at all is my Synology letsencypt cert call requires 80, and only 80. On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Michael Butash wrote: > Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight > ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when > allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back > then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering > https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life > easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your > users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect service > in front as mentioned. > > Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my > hosts vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives > me always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my > SDN network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various > pi/arm linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients > for free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my > hosts, minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions). > > I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering on > kickstarter even. > > -mb > > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington > wrote: > >> My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and a >> port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar. >> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans wrote: >> >>> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so: >>> >>> moin moin, >>> >>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>> this >>>> for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>> >>> >>> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not >>> using Cox residential :). >>> >>> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You >>> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked. >>> >>> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all >>> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25. >>> >>> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or >>> SMTP services. >>> >>> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll have >>> to contact them to request RR records. >>> >>> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I >>> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was >>> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years >>> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer >>> service. >>> >>> ciao, >>> >>> der.hans >>> >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>>>> from >>>>> here Dept. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting >>>>> company >>>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around >>>>> the >>>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> yep. :) >>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site >>>>>> (which >>>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, >>>>>> if >>>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will >>>>>> definitely be >>>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>>>>> >>>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>
Re: Cox Gigablast
Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect service in front as mentioned. Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my hosts vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives me always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my SDN network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various pi/arm linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients for free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my hosts, minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions). I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering on kickstarter even. -mb On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and a > port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar. > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans wrote: > >> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so: >> >> moin moin, >> >> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this >>> for your web site you plan on hosting? >>> >> >> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not >> using Cox residential :). >> >> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You >> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked. >> >> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all >> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25. >> >> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or >> SMTP services. >> >> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll have >> to contact them to request RR records. >> >> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I >> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was >> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years >> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer >> service. >> >> ciao, >> >> der.hans >> >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> >>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>>> from >>>> here Dept. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company >>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the >>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>> yep. :) >>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site >>>>> (which >>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, >>>>> if >>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will >>>>> definitely be >>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>>>> >>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on >>>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry >>>>> pie >>>>> late generation. >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>>>> unlimited. >>>>> >>>>> Funny
Re: Cox Gigablast
as far as I know, they don't. I may have to look at my contract to make sure. However, if I do move out of the cox area before my plan is up, I don't have to worry about the ETF. That, I did get in writing. anyway, I am fairly happy with the service I have gotten so far. It beats the hell out of century link (who can't even be bothered to provide service in the starlight park area due to aging phone infrastructure). -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Known edge of the Universe Dept. On Dec 15, 2017, at 6:21 PM, der.hans wrote: > Am 18. Nov, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: > > moin moin, > > does Cox Business still want a one year cancellation notice? > > Cox Business wanted a new contract to move the service and the new > contract stipulated a 12 month notice for cancellation. I moved to Century > Link :). > > Cox also completely borked up my cancellation of the old service and it > took me 6 months to get them to actually cancel my service and give me my > money back. They lost the paperwork and threatened me with collections > on a cancelled service with a balance that they owed me. Luckily, I had > made sure to get an email acking my cacellation at the beginning. > > ciao, > > der.hans > >> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the >> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have >> access to the fiber that you want. >> >> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are >> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they >> all have to run from a script. >> >> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who >> referred you. >> >> Eric OYen >> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services referrals >> Dept. >> >> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >> >>> >>> Asked for a supervisor. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>> >>>> Kind of irritated by this ... >>>> >>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in >>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... >>>> >>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... >>>> >>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney >>>> >>>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to >>>> be less informed than the guy last week ... >>>> >>>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( >>>> >>>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a >>>> bandwidth a month. >>>> >>>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why >>>> can't I have this happiness? >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> AloneAndHopless ... >>>> >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex. >>>> >>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >>>> >>>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >>>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >>>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >>>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >>>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> > > -- > # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org > # "You go to Afghanistan and you swallow enough dust that you'll pass an > # adobe brick." -- Robin Williams, > 03Aug2006--- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
i love mine, in my area its fiber. so i have 1g/1g and average about 850 to 900 On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:37 PM, kelly stephenson wrote: > I've had gigablast for a week or so. Uses existing cable lines. I get > 850 down and 35 up > . Seems to work pretty good. > > On Nov 17, 2017 12:13 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: > >> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and a port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar. On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans wrote: > Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so: > > moin moin, > > Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this >> for your web site you plan on hosting? >> > > Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not > using Cox residential :). > > Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You > might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked. > > I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all > ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25. > > Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or > SMTP services. > > Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll have > to contact them to request RR records. > > In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I > have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was > zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years > ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer > service. > > ciao, > > der.hans > > > On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>> >>> -eric >>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>> from >>> here Dept. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company >>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the >>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> >>> yep. :) >>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site >>>> (which >>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely >>>> be >>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>>> >>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on >>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry >>>> pie >>>> late generation. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>>> unlimited. >>>> >>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs >>>> like a champ. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>> well, >>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>>>> monthly usage. >>>>> >>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. >>>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about >>>>> 64 >>>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far >>>>> as I >>>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>>>> >>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per >>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for >>>>> a >>>>> standard residential circuit. >>>>> >>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >>>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for >>>>> the >>>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about >>>>> that 1 TB cap. :) >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage G
Re: Cox Gigablast
I've had gigablast for a week or so. Uses existing cable lines. I get 850 down and 35 up . Seems to work pretty good. On Nov 17, 2017 12:13 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: > Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our > neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be > dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals > they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
wow. I haven't had anything like that happen. But i have not dealt with their business side much. and I tend to be very self-sufficient. On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:21 PM, der.hans wrote: > Am 18. Nov, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: > > moin moin, > > does Cox Business still want a one year cancellation notice? > > Cox Business wanted a new contract to move the service and the new > contract stipulated a 12 month notice for cancellation. I moved to Century > Link :). > > Cox also completely borked up my cancellation of the old service and it > took me 6 months to get them to actually cancel my service and give me my > money back. They lost the paperwork and threatened me with collections > on a cancelled service with a balance that they owed me. Luckily, I had > made sure to get an email acking my cacellation at the beginning. > > ciao, > > der.hans > > > you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the >> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have >> access to the fiber that you want. >> >> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are >> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they >> all have to run from a script. >> >> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who >> referred you. >> >> Eric OYen >> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services >> referrals Dept. >> >> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >> >> >>> Asked for a supervisor. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>> >>> Kind of irritated by this ... >>>> >>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in >>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... >>>> >>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... >>>> >>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... >>>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney >>>> >>>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed >>>> to be less informed than the guy last week ... >>>> >>>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( >>>> >>>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a >>>> bandwidth a month. >>>> >>>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. >>>> Why can't I have this happiness? >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> AloneAndHopless ... >>>> >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex. >>>> >>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >>>> >>>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >>>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >>>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >>>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >>>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> > -- > # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org > # "You go to Afghanistan and you swallow enough dust that you'll pass an > # adobe brick." -- Robin Williams, 03Aug2006 > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so: moin moin, Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this for your web site you plan on hosting? Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not using Cox residential :). Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked. I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25. Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or SMTP services. Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll have to contact them to request RR records. In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer service. ciao, der.hans On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there from here Dept. On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: yep. :) I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be locked out on that port, so no control there either). my only questiild, IT support Dept. on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie late generation. -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Gu On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to unlimited. Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs like a champ. On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: well, it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for monthly usage. Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a standard residential circuit. now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about that 1 TB cap. :) -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming Dept. On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you could find a service that would saturate your connection. LAME! Brian Cluff On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h tml?zip=85228 On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a typo, but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will find out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could drop the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay what I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something at one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit unfortunately. If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited data. On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: I am using Cox Com
Re: Cox Gigablast
Am 18. Nov, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: moin moin, does Cox Business still want a one year cancellation notice? Cox Business wanted a new contract to move the service and the new contract stipulated a 12 month notice for cancellation. I moved to Century Link :). Cox also completely borked up my cancellation of the old service and it took me 6 months to get them to actually cancel my service and give me my money back. They lost the paperwork and threatened me with collections on a cancelled service with a balance that they owed me. Luckily, I had made sure to get an email acking my cacellation at the beginning. ciao, der.hans you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have access to the fiber that you want. now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they all have to run from a script. anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who referred you. Eric OYen from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Asked for a supervisor. On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: Kind of irritated by this ... Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to be less informed than the guy last week ... Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a bandwidth a month. Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why can't I have this happiness? Sincerely, AloneAndHopless ... ;-) Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # "You go to Afghanistan and you swallow enough dust that you'll pass an # adobe brick." -- Robin Williams, 03Aug2006--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
residential vs. business class internet @cox
Hello everyone, some of you on the recent "gigablast" thread expressed some interest. so, here is some info if you decide to go with cox business class internet (yes, they will install it at a residential address as a small office/home office package). my contact at cox business is: Jame Hidalgo 623-500-3341 if you decide to go with cox business internet at whatever service level you need, don't forget to mention me as the referral: eric Oyen Now, as was explained to me, the business side has no hard caps (so no overage charges), bandwidth which is about 10-15% greater than the same level of residential service, A fixed IP (or more than one if you want that addition to the package) you can purchase a supported modem or rent one for $6 monthly (which I do). There is also service call priority (which means they can get a service tech out to you that day or the very next (if too late in the day to dispatch). The online account interface also has a ticket management system if you prefer to report an issue online. You get several email addresses which you manage and some other features. btw, I highly recommend you get the inside wiring insurance contract. it will save you big time if a tech has to do anything inside your house. believe me, it's worth the $15 a month! now, as for me, I was on residential for 20 years (since they were @home) and have had very little in the way of problems. A few instances of downtime associated with maintenance or service outages due to uncontrolled equipment failure. they ave always had the service back up the same day (if possible). ild, sales and marketing Dept. btw, as an aside, I have yet to setup a linux server box here. been a little busy trying to work on the place here (which isn't so easy considering being blind and all). anyway, if you have questions, call Jame at the above phone number and he will go through all the features and benefits for you. I hope this didn't come off as a hard sales pitch. :) Eric Oyen from the central offices of the Technomage Gu --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
For the record, It requires an ONT that will be provided by cox, also they will provide you a netgear AC1750 router. The one i got accepted DDWRT but performed horribly, but that allowed me to install the non cox netgear firmware that has been getting me the best speeds. I think this is because the firewall is offloaded internally (at least in mine) and DDWRT doesn't know how to talk to that yet so the CPU actually has to work harder. On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:24 PM, wrote: > I just signed up for gigablast also. I also just order the Motorola 3.1 > modem because my current one is 3.0. > > The bad thing is that it's not like the fiber gigablast. It's 1000Mb down > and 35 up. > > Jason > > Regards, > > Jason > -- > *From:* "Snyder, Alexander J" > *Sent:* Nov 20, 2017 12:50 PM > *To:* Main PLUG discussion list > *Subject:* Re: Cox Gigablast > > Me too ... I checked a couple weeks ago and it wasn't available ... but I > just checked now and GIGABLAST is finally available in my area! > > I'm so stoked ... based on the chatter, I'm sure to enjoy it. > > Oh, what's that? It requires a DOCSIS 3.1 modem? Oh, you just spent > nearly $300 on a fancy shiny new Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem? > > It like I find knives to stick in me and then slowly twist > > Anyone want to buy a "like new" Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem? > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M981YYL > > Yes, I fully understand that this thread is about us all drooling over > Gigablast, the one service this modem can't do ... got that, thank-you. > > -- > Thanks, > Alex. > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:28 AM, kelly stephenson < > stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes definitely, I signed up for gigablast this weekend which was inspired >> by the chatter. >> >> >> On Nov 20, 2017 10:11 AM, "Stephen Partington" >> wrote: >> >>> To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on >>> 443 and 22/21 since I started. >>> >>> On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught >>>> me off guard when I went to open that port. Cox residential blocks quite a >>>> few ports it turns out. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even >>>>> https over http. >>>>> >>>>> Https is not blocked. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson < >>>>> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>>>> this for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -eric >>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get >>>>>>> there from here Dept. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting >>>>>>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head >>>>>>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yep. :) >>>>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to >>>>>>>> a specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site >>>>>>>> (which I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> my router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this >>>>>>>> way, if >>>>>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>>>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will >>&
Re: Cox Gigablast
I just signed up for gigablast also. I also just order the Motorola 3.1 modem because my current one is 3.0. The bad thing is that it's not like the fiber gigablast. It's 1000Mb down and 35 up. Jason Regards, Jason From: "Snyder, Alexander J" Sent: Nov 20, 2017 12:50 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast Me too ... I checked a couple weeks ago and it wasn't available ... but I just checked now and GIGABLAST is finally available in my area! I'm so stoked ... based on the chatter, I'm sure to enjoy it. Oh, what's that? It requires a DOCSIS 3.1 modem? Oh, you just spent nearly $300 on a fancy shiny new Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem? It like I find knives to stick in me and then slowly twist Anyone want to buy a "like new" Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M981YYL Yes, I fully understand that this thread is about us all drooling over Gigablast, the one service this modem can't do ... got that, thank-you. -- Thanks, Alex. On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:28 AM, kelly stephenson wrote: > > Yes definitely, I signed up for gigablast this weekend which was inspired by > the chatter. > > > On Nov 20, 2017 10:11 AM, "Stephen Partington" wrote: >> >> To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on 443 >> and 22/21 since I started. >> >> On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" wrote: >>> >>> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me >>> off guard when I went to open that port. Cox residential blocks quite a >>> few ports it turns out. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" wrote: >>>> >>>> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https >>>> over http. >>>> >>>> Https is not blocked. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>>> this for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>>>>> from here Dept. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting >>>>>>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head >>>>>>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yep. :) >>>>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>>>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site >>>>>>>> (which I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing >>>>>>>> about my router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. >>>>>>>> this way, if anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can >>>>>>>> see is that subnet (and the administrative interface for the router >>>>>>>> will definitely be locked out on that port, so no control there >>>>>>>> either). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>>>>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR >>>>>>>> on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a >>>>>>>> raspberry pie late generation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -eric >>>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>>>>>>>> unlimited. >>>>>>>>> &g
Re: Cox Gigablast
Me too ... I checked a couple weeks ago and it wasn't available ... but I just checked now and GIGABLAST is finally available in my area! I'm so stoked ... based on the chatter, I'm sure to enjoy it. Oh, what's that? It requires a DOCSIS 3.1 modem? Oh, you just spent nearly $300 on a fancy shiny new Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem? It like I find knives to stick in me and then slowly twist Anyone want to buy a "like new" Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M981YYL Yes, I fully understand that this thread is about us all drooling over Gigablast, the one service this modem can't do ... got that, thank-you. -- Thanks, Alex. On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:28 AM, kelly stephenson wrote: > Yes definitely, I signed up for gigablast this weekend which was inspired > by the chatter. > > > On Nov 20, 2017 10:11 AM, "Stephen Partington" > wrote: > >> To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on >> 443 and 22/21 since I started. >> >> On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" >> wrote: >> >>> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught >>> me off guard when I went to open that port. Cox residential blocks quite a >>> few ports it turns out. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https >>>> over http. >>>> >>>> Https is not blocked. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson < >>>> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>>> this for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>>>>> from here Dept. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting >>>>>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head >>>>>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> yep. :) >>>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site >>>>>>> (which >>>>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>>>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >>>>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>>>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR >>>>>>> on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a >>>>>>> raspberry >>>>>>> pie late generation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -eric >>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>>>>>> unlimited. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini >>>>>>> runs like a champ. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> well, >>>>>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>>>>>&
Re: Cox Gigablast
Yes definitely, I signed up for gigablast this weekend which was inspired by the chatter. On Nov 20, 2017 10:11 AM, "Stephen Partington" wrote: > To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on > 443 and 22/21 since I started. > > On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" > wrote: > >> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me >> off guard when I went to open that port. Cox residential blocks quite a >> few ports it turns out. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" >> wrote: >> >>> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https >>> over http. >>> >>> Https is not blocked. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson < >>> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>>> this for your web site you plan on hosting? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>>>> from here Dept. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting >>>>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head >>>>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> yep. :) >>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site >>>>>> (which >>>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >>>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely >>>>>> be >>>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>>>>> >>>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR >>>>>> on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry >>>>>> pie late generation. >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>>>>> unlimited. >>>>>> >>>>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini >>>>>> runs like a champ. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> well, >>>>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>>>>>> monthly usage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 >>>>>>> Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or >>>>>>> about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. >>>>>>> now, so >>>>>>> far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per >>>>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a >>>>>>> standard residential circuit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming >>>>>>> some content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> the last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to
Re: Cox Gigablast
To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on 443 and 22/21 since I started. On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" wrote: > Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me > off guard when I went to open that port. Cox residential blocks quite a > few ports it turns out. > > On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" > wrote: > >> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https >> over http. >> >> Https is not blocked. >> >> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson < >> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >>> this for your web site you plan on hosting? >>> >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> >>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>>> from here Dept. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting >>>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head >>>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>>> yep. :) >>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which >>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be >>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>>>> >>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR >>>>> on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry >>>>> pie late generation. >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>>>> unlimited. >>>>> >>>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini >>>>> runs like a champ. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> well, >>>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>>>>> monthly usage. >>>>>> >>>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 >>>>>> Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or >>>>>> about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, >>>>>> so >>>>>> far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>>>>> >>>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per >>>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a >>>>>> standard residential circuit. >>>>>> >>>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming >>>>>> some content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for >>>>>> the last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry >>>>>> about >>>>>> that 1 TB cap. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming >>>>>> Dept. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can >>>>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
Re: Cox Gigablast
Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me off guard when I went to open that port. Cox residential blocks quite a few ports it turns out. On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" wrote: > Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https > over http. > > Https is not blocked. > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson < > stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >> this for your web site you plan on hosting? >> >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>> >>> -eric >>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>> from here Dept. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company >>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the >>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> >>>> yep. :) >>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which >>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be >>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>>> >>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on >>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie >>>> late generation. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>>> unlimited. >>>> >>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs >>>> like a champ. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>>> well, >>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>>>> monthly usage. >>>>> >>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. >>>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 >>>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as >>>>> I >>>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>>>> >>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per >>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a >>>>> standard residential circuit. >>>>> >>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >>>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the >>>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about >>>>> that 1 TB cap. :) >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming >>>>> Dept. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can >>>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you >>>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection. >>>>> >>>>> LAME! >>>>> >>>>> Brian Cluff >>>>> >>>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h >>>>> tml?zip=85228 >>>>> >>
Re: Cox Gigablast
So I can take everything that comes in at 80 and 443 and send them to 443, then use letsencrypt for certs. [image: Inline image 1] On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Stephen Partington wrote: > That is very true, Google Domains has a DDNS functionality that you can > use to update your IP with them. Very smooth. > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> um. they block it on residential. I am on business and all ports are open >> (or can be made that way from the admin page on my cox business account). I >> also enjoy a real honest fixed ip here. can't say that for residential. >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, the Mine's bigger than >> yours Dept. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson wrote: >> >> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around >> this for your web site you plan on hosting? >> >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >>> >>> -eric >>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >>> from here Dept. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company >>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the >>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> >>>> yep. :) >>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which >>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be >>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>>> >>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on >>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie >>>> late generation. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>>> unlimited. >>>> >>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs >>>> like a champ. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>>> well, >>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>>>> monthly usage. >>>>> >>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. >>>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 >>>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as >>>>> I >>>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>>>> >>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per >>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a >>>>> standard residential circuit. >>>>> >>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >>>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the >>>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about >>>>> that 1 TB cap. :) >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming >>>>> Dept. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can >>>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you >>>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection. >>>>> >>>>> LAME! >>>>> >>>>> Brian C
Re: Cox Gigablast
That is very true, Google Domains has a DDNS functionality that you can use to update your IP with them. Very smooth. On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > um. they block it on residential. I am on business and all ports are open > (or can be made that way from the admin page on my cox business account). I > also enjoy a real honest fixed ip here. can't say that for residential. > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, the Mine's bigger than > yours Dept. > > On Nov 19, 2017, at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson wrote: > > Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this > for your web site you plan on hosting? > > > On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > >> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >> from here Dept. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company >> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the >> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >>> yep. :) >>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which >>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be >>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>> >>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on >>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie >>> late generation. >>> >>> -eric >>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>> unlimited. >>> >>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs >>> like a champ. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> >>>> well, >>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>>> monthly usage. >>>> >>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. >>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 >>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I >>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>>> >>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per >>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a >>>> standard residential circuit. >>>> >>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the >>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about >>>> that 1 TB cap. :) >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming >>>> Dept. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >>>> >>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can >>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you >>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection. >>>> >>>> LAME! >>>> >>>> Brian Cluff >>>> >>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >>>> >>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h >>>> tml?zip=85228 >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >
Re: Cox Gigablast
um. they block it on residential. I am on business and all ports are open (or can be made that way from the admin page on my cox business account). I also enjoy a real honest fixed ip here. can't say that for residential. -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, the Mine's bigger than yours Dept. On Nov 19, 2017, at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson wrote: > Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this > for your web site you plan on hosting? > > > On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there from > here Dept. > > On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > >> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company >> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the >> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> yep. :) >> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which I >> will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my router, >> I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if anyone gets >> control of the web server, about all they can see is that subnet (and the >> administrative interface for the router will definitely be locked out on >> that port, so no control there either). >> >> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on >> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie >> late generation. >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>> unlimited. >>> >>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs >>> like a champ. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> well, >>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for monthly >>> usage. >>> >>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. if >>> left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 Gb >>> per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I >>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>> >>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per week), >>> plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a standard >>> residential circuit. >>> >>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the >>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about >>> that 1 TB cap. :) >>> >>> -eric >>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming Dept. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >>> >>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can exceed >>>> your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you could >>>> find a service that would saturate your connection. >>>> >>>> LAME! >>>> >>>> Brian Cluff >>>> >>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228 >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >>>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a >>>>> typo, >>>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will >>>>> find >>>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could >>>>> drop >>>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each m
Re: Cox Gigablast
Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https over http. Https is not blocked. On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson wrote: > Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this > for your web site you plan on hosting? > > > On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > >> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there >> from here Dept. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company >> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the >> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >>> yep. :) >>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which >>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be >>> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >>> >>> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on >>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie >>> late generation. >>> >>> -eric >>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >>> unlimited. >>> >>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs >>> like a champ. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> >>>> well, >>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>>> monthly usage. >>>> >>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. >>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 >>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I >>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>>> >>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per >>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a >>>> standard residential circuit. >>>> >>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the >>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about >>>> that 1 TB cap. :) >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming >>>> Dept. >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >>>> >>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can >>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you >>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection. >>>> >>>> LAME! >>>> >>>> Brian Cluff >>>> >>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >>>> >>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h >>>> tml?zip=85228 >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be >>>>> a typo, >>>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will >>>>> find >>>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I >>>>> could drop >>>>> th
Re: Cox Gigablast
Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this for your web site you plan on hosting? On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there from > here Dept. > > On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > > I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company > won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the > Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. > > On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > >> yep. :) >> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a >> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which >> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my >> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if >> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that >> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be >> locked out on that port, so no control there either). >> >> my only questiild, IT support Dept. >> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on >> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie >> late generation. >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >> unlimited. >> >> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs >> like a champ. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >>> well, >>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >>> monthly usage. >>> >>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. >>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 >>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I >>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >>> >>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per >>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a >>> standard residential circuit. >>> >>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the >>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about >>> that 1 TB cap. :) >>> >>> -eric >>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming >>> Dept. >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >>> >>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can >>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you >>> could find a service that would saturate your connection. >>> >>> LAME! >>> >>> Brian Cluff >>> >>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >>> >>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h >>> tml?zip=85228 >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a >>>> typo, >>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will >>>> find >>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could >>>> drop >>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay >>>> what >>>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something >>>> at >>>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >
Re: Cox Gigablast
oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there from here Dept. On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company > won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the > Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. > > On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > yep. :) > I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a specific > machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which I will need > to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my router, I can > assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if anyone gets > control of the web server, about all they can see is that subnet (and the > administrative interface for the router will definitely be locked out on that > port, so no control there either). > > my only questiild, IT support Dept. > on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on there > for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie late > generation. > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Gu > On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > >> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to >> unlimited. >> >> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs like >> a champ. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> well, >> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for monthly >> usage. >> >> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. if >> left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 Gb >> per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I >> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >> >> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per week), >> plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a standard >> residential circuit. >> >> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the >> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about that >> 1 TB cap. :) >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming Dept. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >> >>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can exceed >>> your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you could find >>> a service that would saturate your connection. >>> >>> LAME! >>> >>> Brian Cluff >>> >>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >>>> >>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228 >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >>>> >>>> >>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a >>>> typo, >>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will find >>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could >>>> drop >>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay >>>> what >>>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something at >>>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. >>>> >>>> >>>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit >>>> unfortunately. >>>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited >>>> data. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM,
Re: Cox Gigablast
I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > yep. :) > I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a > specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which > I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my > router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if > anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that > subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be > locked out on that port, so no control there either). > > my only questiild, IT support Dept. > on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on > there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie > late generation. > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Gu > On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > > I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to > unlimited. > > Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs > like a champ. > > On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > >> well, >> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for >> monthly usage. >> >> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. if >> left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 Gb >> per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I >> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. >> >> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per week), >> plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a standard >> residential circuit. >> >> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some >> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the >> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about >> that 1 TB cap. :) >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming Dept. >> >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >> >> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can exceed >> your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you could find >> a service that would saturate your connection. >> >> LAME! >> >> Brian Cluff >> >> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >> >> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228 >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >> >>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >>>> >>>> >>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a >>> typo, >>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will >>> find >>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could >>> drop >>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay >>> what >>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something >>> at >>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>>> >>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >>>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit >>>> unfortunately. >>>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited >>>> data. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, >>>>> 30 >>>>> >>>>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those >>>>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per >>>>>
Re: Cox Gigablast
yep. :) I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be locked out on that port, so no control there either). my only questiild, IT support Dept. on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie late generation. -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Gu On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to > unlimited. > > Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs like > a champ. > > On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > well, > it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for monthly > usage. > > Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. if > left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 Gb per > day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I know, no > one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. > > so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per week), > plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a standard > residential circuit. > > now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some > content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the last > 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about that 1 TB > cap. :) > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming Dept. > > On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: > >> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can exceed >> your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you could find >> a service that would saturate your connection. >> >> LAME! >> >> Brian Cluff >> >> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >>> >>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228 >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >>> >>> >>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a >>> typo, >>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will find >>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could drop >>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay what >>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something at >>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: >>> >>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. >>> >>> >>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit unfortunately. >>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited >>> data. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 >>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those >>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per month. >>> I am very pleased with this service. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast >>> From: "Eric Oyen" >>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> >>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business. >>> >>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: >>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html >>> >>> I just called them through their residential number. the
Re: Cox Gigablast
I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to unlimited. Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs like a champ. On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > well, > it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for > monthly usage. > > Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. if > left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 Gb > per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I > know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. > > so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per week), > plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a standard > residential circuit. > > now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some > content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the > last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about > that 1 TB cap. :) > > -eric > from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming Dept. > > On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: > > Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can exceed > your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you could find > a service that would saturate your connection. > > LAME! > > Brian Cluff > > On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > > Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. > > https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228 > > On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: > >> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >>> >>> >> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a >> typo, >> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will >> find >> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could >> drop >> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay >> what >> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something at >> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. >> >> >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: >>> >>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. >>>> >>>> >>>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit >>> unfortunately. >>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited >>> data. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 >>>> >>>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those >>>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per >>>>> month. >>>>> I am very pleased with this service. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast >>>>> From: "Eric Oyen" >>>>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am >>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>>>> >>>>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business. >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: >>>>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html >>>>> >>>>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this >>>>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for >>>>> only >>>>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 >>>>> a >>>>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for >>>>> residential service (including tv). >>>>> >>>>> hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Eric Oyen >&
Re: Cox Gigablast
well, it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for monthly usage. Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days. so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a standard residential circuit. now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about that 1 TB cap. :) -eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming Dept. On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: > Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can exceed > your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you could find a > service that would saturate your connection. > > LAME! > > Brian Cluff > > On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: >> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. >> >> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228 >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >> >> >> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a typo, >> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will find >> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could drop >> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay what >> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something at >> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. >> >> >> >> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: >> >> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. >> >> >> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit unfortunately. >> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited >> data. >> >> >> >> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: >> >> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 >> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those >> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per month. >> I am very pleased with this service. >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast >> From: "Eric Oyen" >> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am >> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >> >> let me dig up the sales number for cox business. >> >> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: >> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html >> >> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this >> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> >> >> >> >> hope this helps. >> >> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for only >> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a >> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for >> residential service (including tv). >> >> hope this helps. >> >> Eric Oyen >> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. >> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >> >> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the >> promised land would be very welcome! >> >> Thanks! >> >> Thanks, >> Alex. >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >> >> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the >> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even >> have >> access to the fiber that you want. >> >> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are >> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked
Re: Cox Gigablast
Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
could find a service that would saturate your connection.
LAME!
Brian Cluff
On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228
On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" <mailto:d...@snitselaar.org>> wrote:
On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could
be a typo,
but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
Will find
out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
could drop
the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and
basically pay what
I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
something at
one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, mailto:d...@snitselaar.org>> wrote:
On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
This is what i had before gig. And the service was great.
But i use way
more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a
savings.
They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit
unfortunately.
If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the
unlimited
data.
On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, mailto:celticg...@celticgeek.com>> wrote:
I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300
Mbps download, 30
Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10
percent above those
values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the
price is $100 per month.
I am very pleased with this service.
- Original Message -
Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
From: "Eric Oyen" mailto:eric.o...@icloud.com>>
Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>>
let me dig up the sales number for cox business.
I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there
is this site here:
https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html
<https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html>
I just called them through their residential number.
they gave me this
number for direct contact: 800-529-5118
<(800)%20529-5118>
hope this helps.
btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50
mbits/11 mbits for only
$79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube
tv for about $35 a
month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less
than I would be for
residential service (including tv).
hope this helps.
Eric Oyen
From the central offices of the Technomage Guild,
Support Referrals Dept.
On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on
how I get to the
promised land would be very welcome!
Thanks!
Thanks,
Alex.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen"
mailto:eric.o...@icloud.com>>
wrote:
you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame
Hidalgo. He is my
contact over there. btw, business class internet
doesn't suffer from the
hard cap that you got charged for this last time
out. they might even
have
access to the fiber that you want.
now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at
residential customer service are
good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a
CSr desk knows that
they
all have to run from a script.
anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business,
please tell him who
referred you.
Eric OYen
from the central office of the Technomage Guild,
Inte
Re: Re: Cox Gigablast
Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228 On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: > On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: > >> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >> >> > What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a > typo, > but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will find > out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could > drop > the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay > what > I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something at > one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. > > > > On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: >> >> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. >>> >>> >>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit >> unfortunately. >> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited >> data. >> >> >> >> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: >> >>> >>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 >>> >>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those >>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per >>>> month. >>>> I am very pleased with this service. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast >>>> From: "Eric Oyen" >>>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am >>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>>> >>>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business. >>>> >>>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: >>>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html >>>> >>>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this >>>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for >>>> only >>>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a >>>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for >>>> residential service (including tv). >>>> >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Eric Oyen >>>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals >>>> Dept. >>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>>> >>>> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the >>>> promised land would be very welcome! >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex. >>>> >>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >>>> >>>> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >>>> >>>>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from >>>>> the >>>>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even >>>>> have >>>>> access to the fiber that you want. >>>>> >>>>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service >>>>> are >>>>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that >>>>> they >>>>> all have to run from a script. >>>>> >>>>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who >>>>> referred you. >>>>> >>>>> Eric OYen >>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services >>>>> referrals Dept. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Asked for a supervisor. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >
Re: Re: Cox Gigablast
Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it. https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.html?zip=85228 On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: > On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: > >> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. >> >> > What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a > typo, > but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will find > out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could > drop > the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay > what > I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something at > one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. > > > > On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: >> >> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. >>> >>> >>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit >> unfortunately. >> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited >> data. >> >> >> >> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: >> >>> >>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 >>> >>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those >>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per >>>> month. >>>> I am very pleased with this service. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast >>>> From: "Eric Oyen" >>>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am >>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>>> >>>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business. >>>> >>>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: >>>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html >>>> >>>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this >>>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for >>>> only >>>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a >>>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for >>>> residential service (including tv). >>>> >>>> hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Eric Oyen >>>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals >>>> Dept. >>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>>> >>>> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the >>>> promised land would be very welcome! >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex. >>>> >>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >>>> >>>> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>>> >>>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >>>> >>>>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from >>>>> the >>>>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even >>>>> have >>>>> access to the fiber that you want. >>>>> >>>>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service >>>>> are >>>>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that >>>>> they >>>>> all have to run from a script. >>>>> >>>>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who >>>>> referred you. >>>>> >>>>> Eric OYen >>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services >>>>> referrals Dept. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Asked for a supervisor. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >
Re: Re: Cox Gigablast
On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote: Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be a typo, but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will find out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I could drop the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically pay what I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing something at one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago. On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit unfortunately. If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited data. On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per month. I am very pleased with this service. - Original Message - Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast From: "Eric Oyen" Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am To: "Main PLUG discussion list" let me dig up the sales number for cox business. I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> hope this helps. btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for only $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for residential service (including tv). hope this helps. Eric Oyen From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the promised land would be very welcome! Thanks! Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have access to the fiber that you want. now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they all have to run from a script. anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who referred you. Eric OYen from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Asked for a supervisor. On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: Kind of irritated by this ... Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to be less informed than the guy last week ... Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a bandwidth a month. Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why can't I have this happiness? Sincerely, AloneAndHopless ... ;-) Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.p
Re: Cox Gigablast
heh. you know what's funny? if I had the storage (about 200 TB), I could effectively download about 100 TB for a month on my circuit and not run into overages. that's the nice thing about business class service: no caps. However, if I were to do that, cox would call me up and ask if I am sharing my connection. :) btw, that 100 Tb for a month is a calculated figure based on my current service level and assumes max bandwidth for the download (which in the real world doesn't happen). Still, it made for an interesting math problem. :) Eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, theoretic math Dept On Nov 19, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > That's what the CSR told me, which is another reason to get it. The 1TB > overages are killing me. I'm hemorrhaging money ... > > Thanks, > Alex. > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ > > On Nov 19, 2017 12:10, "Stephen Partington" wrote: > Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. > > On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: > On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: > This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way > more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. > > > They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit unfortunately. > If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited data. > > > > On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: > > I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 > Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those > values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per month. > I am very pleased with this service. > > > > > - Original Message - > Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast > From: "Eric Oyen" > Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > > let me dig up the sales number for cox business. > > I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: > https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html > > I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this > number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> > > > > hope this helps. > > btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for only > $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a > month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for > residential service (including tv). > > hope this helps. > > Eric Oyen > From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. > On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > > I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the > promised land would be very welcome! > > Thanks! > > Thanks, > Alex. > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ > > On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > > you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my > contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the > hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have > access to the fiber that you want. > > now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are > good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they > all have to run from a script. > > anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who > referred you. > > Eric OYen > from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services > referrals Dept. > > On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > > > > Asked for a supervisor. > > > > > On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > > Kind of irritated by this ... > > Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in > "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... > > Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... > > I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... > #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney > > I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed > to be less informed than the guy last week ... > > Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( > > The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a > bandwidth a month. > > Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. > Why can't I have this happiness? > > Sincerely, > AloneAndHopless ... > > ;-) > > > > > > Thanks, > Alex. > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ > > On Nov
Re: Re: Cox Gigablast
That's what the CSR told me, which is another reason to get it. The 1TB overages are killing me. I'm hemorrhaging money ... Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 19, 2017 12:10, "Stephen Partington" wrote: > Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. > > On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: > > On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: > >> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way >> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. >> >> > They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit > unfortunately. > If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited > data. > > > > On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: >> >> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 >>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those >>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per >>> month. >>> I am very pleased with this service. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast >>> From: "Eric Oyen" >>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> >>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business. >>> >>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: >>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html >>> >>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this >>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> >>> >>> >>> >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for >>> only >>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a >>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for >>> residential service (including tv). >>> >>> hope this helps. >>> >>> Eric Oyen >>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. >>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>> >>> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the >>> promised land would be very welcome! >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex. >>> >>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >>> >>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >>>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the >>>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even >>>> have >>>> access to the fiber that you want. >>>> >>>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are >>>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that >>>> they >>>> all have to run from a script. >>>> >>>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who >>>> referred you. >>>> >>>> Eric OYen >>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services >>>> referrals Dept. >>>> >>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Asked for a supervisor. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>>> >>>> Kind of irritated by this ... >>>> >>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in >>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... >>>> >>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... >>>> >>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... >>>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney >>>> >>>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed >>>> to be less informed than the guy last week ... >>>> >>>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( >>>> >>>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a >>>> bandwidth a month. >>>> >>>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendal
Re: Re: Cox Gigablast
Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1. On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, wrote: On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: > This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way > more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. > > They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit unfortunately. If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited data. On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: > > I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 >> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those >> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per month. >> I am very pleased with this service. >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast >> From: "Eric Oyen" >> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am >> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >> >> let me dig up the sales number for cox business. >> >> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: >> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html >> >> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this >> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> >> >> >> >> hope this helps. >> >> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for only >> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a >> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for >> residential service (including tv). >> >> hope this helps. >> >> Eric Oyen >> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. >> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >> >> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the >> promised land would be very welcome! >> >> Thanks! >> >> Thanks, >> Alex. >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >> >> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the >>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even >>> have >>> access to the fiber that you want. >>> >>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are >>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that >>> they >>> all have to run from a script. >>> >>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who >>> referred you. >>> >>> Eric OYen >>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services >>> referrals Dept. >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Asked for a supervisor. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >>> >>> Kind of irritated by this ... >>> >>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in >>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... >>> >>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... >>> >>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... >>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney >>> >>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed >>> to be less informed than the guy last week ... >>> >>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( >>> >>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a >>> bandwidth a month. >>> >>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. >>> Why can't I have this happiness? >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> AloneAndHopless ... >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex. >>> >>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >>> >>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >>> >>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >>>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >>>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >>>> they were able to m
Re: Re: Cox Gigablast
On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote: This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit unfortunately. If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the unlimited data. On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per month. I am very pleased with this service. - Original Message - Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast From: "Eric Oyen" Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am To: "Main PLUG discussion list" let me dig up the sales number for cox business. I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> hope this helps. btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for only $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for residential service (including tv). hope this helps. Eric Oyen From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the promised land would be very welcome! Thanks! Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have access to the fiber that you want. now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they all have to run from a script. anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who referred you. Eric OYen from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Asked for a supervisor. On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: Kind of irritated by this ... Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to be less informed than the guy last week ... Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a bandwidth a month. Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why can't I have this happiness? Sincerely, AloneAndHopless ... ;-) Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/ ma
RE: Re: Cox Gigablast
This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use way more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings. On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, wrote: > I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 > Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those > values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per month. > I am very pleased with this service. > > > > > - Original Message - > Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast > From: "Eric Oyen" > Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > > let me dig up the sales number for cox business. > > I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: > https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html > > I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this > number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118> > > > hope this helps. > > btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for only > $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a > month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for > residential service (including tv). > > hope this helps. > > Eric Oyen > From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. > On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > > I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the > promised land would be very welcome! > > Thanks! > > Thanks, > Alex. > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ > > On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > >> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my >> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the >> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have >> access to the fiber that you want. >> >> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are >> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they >> all have to run from a script. >> >> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who >> referred you. >> >> Eric OYen >> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services >> referrals Dept. >> >> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Asked for a supervisor. >> >> >> >> >> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >> >> Kind of irritated by this ... >> >> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in >> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... >> >> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... >> >> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... >> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney >> >> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed >> to be less informed than the guy last week ... >> >> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( >> >> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a >> bandwidth a month. >> >> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. >> Why can't I have this happiness? >> >> Sincerely, >> AloneAndHopless ... >> >> ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Alex. >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >> >> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >> >>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to c
RE: Re: Cox Gigablast
I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps download, 30 Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above those values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per month. I am very pleased with this service. - Original Message - Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast From: "Eric Oyen" Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am To: "Main PLUG discussion list" let me dig up the sales number for cox business. I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 hope this helps. btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for only $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for residential service (including tv). hope this helps. Eric Oyen >From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the promised land would be very welcome! Thanks! Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have access to the fiber that you want. now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they all have to run from a script. anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who referred you. Eric OYen from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Asked for a supervisor. On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: Kind of irritated by this ... Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to be less informed than the guy last week ... Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a bandwidth a month. Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why can't I have this happiness? Sincerely, AloneAndHopless ... ;-) Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
let me dig up the sales number for cox business. I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site here: https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html I just called them through their residential number. they gave me this number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 hope this helps. btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits for only $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about $35 a month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be for residential service (including tv). hope this helps. Eric Oyen From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the > promised land would be very welcome! > > Thanks! > > Thanks, > Alex. > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ > > On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my > contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the hard > cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have access > to the fiber that you want. > > now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are good > people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they all > have to run from a script. > > anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who > referred you. > > Eric OYen > from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services referrals > Dept. > > On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > >> >> Asked for a supervisor. >> >> >> >> >> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: >> >>> Kind of irritated by this ... >>> >>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in >>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... >>> >>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... >>> >>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney >>> >>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to >>> be less informed than the guy last week ... >>> >>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( >>> >>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a >>> bandwidth a month. >>> >>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why >>> can't I have this happiness? >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> AloneAndHopless ... >>> >>> ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex. >>> >>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >>> >>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to the promised land would be very welcome! Thanks! Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" wrote: > you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my > contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the > hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have > access to the fiber that you want. > > now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are > good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they > all have to run from a script. > > anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who > referred you. > > Eric OYen > from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services > referrals Dept. > > On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > > > Asked for a supervisor. > > > > On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > > Kind of irritated by this ... > > Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in > "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... > > Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... > > I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney > > I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to > be less informed than the guy last week ... > > Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( > > The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a > bandwidth a month. > > Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why > can't I have this happiness? > > Sincerely, > AloneAndHopless ... > > ;-) > > > > > > Thanks, > Alex. > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ > > On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: > >> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He is my contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer from the hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might even have access to the fiber that you want. now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer service are good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows that they all have to run from a script. anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him who referred you. Eric OYen from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services referrals Dept. On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > > Asked for a supervisor. > > > > > On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > >> Kind of irritated by this ... >> >> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in >> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... >> >> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... >> >> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney >> >> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to >> be less informed than the guy last week ... >> >> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( >> >> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a bandwidth >> a month. >> >> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why >> can't I have this happiness? >> >> Sincerely, >> AloneAndHopless ... >> >> ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Alex. >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ >> >> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: >> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
Asked for a supervisor. On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > Kind of irritated by this ... > > Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in > "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... > > Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... > > I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney > > I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to be > less informed than the guy last week ... > > Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( > > The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a bandwidth > a month. > > Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why > can't I have this happiness? > > Sincerely, > AloneAndHopless ... > > ;-) > > Thanks, > Alex. > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ > > On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: > >> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Links: -- [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
More clarity I am in Tempe between mill and rural north of Southern. This I noticed are that most sites cannot support 1g of bandwidth. However if you use a multi peering download like torrent things go stupid fast. On Nov 17, 2017 12:49 PM, "Stephen Partington" wrote: > I have had GB from Aug this year. And it is fantastic. 1g up and down is a > beautiful thing. > > On Nov 17, 2017 12:38 PM, "Charles Lewton" wrote: > >> Hello Jerry et al, >> >> We have been using Gigablast since May, 2016. It has been excellent >> results and reliable service. >> >> I would subscribe again if moving to an area it is available. >> >> Chuck >> >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Jerry Snitselaar >> wrote: >> >>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
I have had GB from Aug this year. And it is fantastic. 1g up and down is a beautiful thing. On Nov 17, 2017 12:38 PM, "Charles Lewton" wrote: > Hello Jerry et al, > > We have been using Gigablast since May, 2016. It has been excellent > results and reliable service. > > I would subscribe again if moving to an area it is available. > > Chuck > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Jerry Snitselaar > wrote: > >> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our >> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be >> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals >> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
Kind of irritated by this ... Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped in "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ... Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ... I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ... #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that seemed to be less informed than the guy last week ... Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-( The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a bandwidth a month. Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with it. Why can't I have this happiness? Sincerely, AloneAndHopless ... ;-) Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" wrote: > Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our > neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be > dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals > they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Gigablast
Hello Jerry et al, We have been using Gigablast since May, 2016. It has been excellent results and reliable service. I would subscribe again if moving to an area it is available. Chuck On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Jerry Snitselaar wrote: > Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our > neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be > dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals > they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Cox Gigablast
Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the deals they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to this. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
Interesting point of note, With the popularity of htps now running a server from home is much easier on a personal line than it ever was. the only weirdness comes from IP address changes. On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote: > I am in Park City, Utah and having my first experience with > Comcast...visualize me puking!! > > > > At 09:18 AM 7/13/2016, Michael Butash wrote: > > All the incumbent MSO's (cable) and LEC's (ma bell) across the country > are. Cox won the first round getting SRP as a Cox customer to NOT give > fiber to Google in Phoenix with backdoor negotiations, which caused > Google's initial delay after fanfare. > > Cable companies are doing this everywhere, trying to keep Google from > getting in on their game, from getting city permitting denied to Google > construction, to fighting to keep them off the telephone poles and deny > common carrier status. It's all dirty delay tactics, your tax dollars and > subscription fees put to good work... > > Milo Medin, the head of Google Fiber, started the Cable Modem technology > market and was responsible for @Home in the 90's that brought it to the > masses. He saw the MSO's single-handedly kill off @home in their greed, so > he has a special interest in making them sweat and silently subvert them > for revenge. Sadly, Google is the only one that can, seeing they and > Comcast co-own the FCC and government in their pockets these days. > > -mb > > > On 07/12/2016 08:30 PM, Carl Parrish wrote: > > So looking forward to Google Fiber hitting Tempe but it sounds like Cox is > taking Tempe to court in hopes of stopping it. > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
I am in Park City, Utah and having my first experience with Comcast...visualize me puking!! At 09:18 AM 7/13/2016, Michael Butash wrote: All the incumbent MSO's (cable) and LEC's (ma bell) across the country are. Cox won the first round getting SRP as a Cox customer to NOT give fiber to Google in Phoenix with backdoor negotiations, which caused Google's initial delay after fanfare. Cable companies are doing this everywhere, trying to keep Google from getting in on their game, from getting city permitting denied to Google construction, to fighting to keep them off the telephone poles and deny common carrier status. It's all dirty delay tactics, your tax dollars and subscription fees put to good work... Milo Medin, the head of Google Fiber, started the Cable Modem technology market and was responsible for @Home in the 90's that brought it to the masses. He saw the MSO's single-handedly kill off @home in their greed, so he has a special interest in making them sweat and silently subvert them for revenge. Sadly, Google is the only one that can, seeing they and Comcast co-own the FCC and government in their pockets these days. -mb On 07/12/2016 08:30 PM, Carl Parrish wrote: So looking forward to Google Fiber hitting Tempe but it sounds like Cox is taking Tempe to court in hopes of stopping it. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
All the incumbent MSO's (cable) and LEC's (ma bell) across the country are. Cox won the first round getting SRP as a Cox customer to NOT give fiber to Google in Phoenix with backdoor negotiations, which caused Google's initial delay after fanfare. Cable companies are doing this everywhere, trying to keep Google from getting in on their game, from getting city permitting denied to Google construction, to fighting to keep them off the telephone poles and deny common carrier status. It's all dirty delay tactics, your tax dollars and subscription fees put to good work... Milo Medin, the head of Google Fiber, started the Cable Modem technology market and was responsible for @Home in the 90's that brought it to the masses. He saw the MSO's single-handedly kill off @home in their greed, so he has a special interest in making them sweat and silently subvert them for revenge. Sadly, Google is the only one that can, seeing they and Comcast co-own the FCC and government in their pockets these days. -mb On 07/12/2016 08:30 PM, Carl Parrish wrote: So looking forward to Google Fiber hitting Tempe but it sounds like Cox is taking Tempe to court in hopes of stopping it. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
When I switched to Business a tech came out (I think he was a contractor) and checked some levels. He explained it but I have since forgotten what he said. I recall being close to the limit of not qualifying. But is was good enough. My house was not wired for cox and there was no port. They had to run it new when I moved in, in 2010. There are six houses on the box I connect to and there was only 5 ports. I was the last to connect. On 2016-07-12 20:18, Michael Butash wrote: Back when I worked there early 2000's and took over the network from @home, we'd begun, at times forcibly, to get the business services installers to refurb the site more than normal contractors might for "just video". Mainly if there were even borderline issues, we pushed them to clean things up up front, replacing buried cable with conduits, old coax, bad feeders, etc. Helped a lot when we trained them to treat it more like a data circuit than an analog video connection where data path sensitivity was far more necessary, and seems pretty standard those guys have a good QAM meter when coming on-site. Not sure how it is now for later installs, but I'd like to think good habits hold true, especially since internet and video are all data connections. I would think they probably fixed up some of your house cabling when moving to business, fix old splitters and direct runs, but really nothing upstream with the network changes with going from res to business. If you don't need same day on-site support for an outage on premise, or open ports for http/smtp, then residential is often more than adequate. -mb On 07/12/2016 06:25 PM, Keith Smith wrote: I had consumer Cox for maybe 8 years. I would occasionally experience some downtime. I moved to Cox Business maybe 4 years ago. Less down time. I work out of my house so the network did not changes, or maybe the immediate network did not change. I am able to run a server, which I do not... but did for a short time... Long Story Speed is ok. Occasionally things will slow. Who knows why? I cannot tell you if there is any downtime in the middle of the night. Maybe I'll move back to consumer. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
So looking forward to Google Fiber hitting Tempe but it sounds like Cox is taking Tempe to court in hopes of stopping it. > On Jul 2, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Todd Cole wrote: > > I stuck with Residential for the speed, down time seems to be the same as > business accounts tho business do get 24/7 service calls and support. a > little port work and dns hop was easy to do. And I do prefer Cox vs CL but > Google could be the future---maybe > Todd > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Sesso <mailto:se...@djsesso.com>> wrote: > They don't stand up to their uptime guarantee. Our business line went down a > minimum of 2 times a month In phx and one time a month in Chandler. They said > it was maintenance and they wouldn't reimburse us. Sometimes it would go down > for six hours overnight and we are a 24/7 business. > > Jason > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 2, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Eric Oyen > <mailto:eric.o...@icloud.com>> wrote: > > > > well, they do have an uptime guarantee and also several static IP's in the > > business package. In all honesty, unless you are running a business, > > residential will definitely meet your needs. > > > > -eric > > > >> On Jul 2, 2016, at 12:32 AM, Nathan England wrote: > >> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> > >> Howdy all, > >> > >> It seems my current cox package has expired and my rates are set to sky > >> rocket. I currently have the premium internet which is 150mbps for > >> $79.99. I can pay $10 more a month and get the cox business internet > >> which is 25mbps. > >> > >> I'm conflicted with whether or not it is worth the price. My internet > >> now is pretty fast, I cannot often complain about the speed, but I'm > >> curious, is the 25mb dedicated better than my 150 on a perfect day? > >> > >> - -- > >> > >> Nathan England > >> Web Developer > >> LAMP Administrator > >> Information Security > >> nat...@nmecs.com <mailto:nat...@nmecs.com> > >> (480) 559-9681 > >> https://www.nmecs.com <https://www.nmecs.com/> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >> Version: GnuPG v1 > >> > >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXd235AAoJEOuk7+DwYjzggn8H/RW1ZpPhiWL1m3HYiN/YKGsk > >> HcMjPksQfghgdGRPKK4NOvJ8o32x/QBCJmnmeVH7IxbuDfq2WGVUo607UJp8CbWM > >> 6CwJvEp3U7Vk/opyPzdkNgKuLj1VxlShSP6aQb7EijmAK5wv8AZXYJGFXozMiVkb > >> AEuPXsgh6qPcds3225/GWo4Ke6T2ddKwwMbHntvT+CMUYy8Pb56jlzVtqHsNLmKU > >> RsJZoZjWV04y+VKj1Vi6TRZlq/mzwRIk8VcRMZ3s2O7gyYJR5yZFgG13myPlEu3r > >> 5eJZql+G4j627Egvqqn15k1q6s3PyB5b3aSZ6MXG/eXJEzd44ckc9t5XHsDTlj4= > >> =Lxuh > >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> <http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > <http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > <http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> > > > > -- > Todd Cole > Ubuntu Arizona Team > 4605 S PRIEST DR LOT 3 > TEMPE AZ 85282-6507 > to...@azloco.com <mailto:to...@azloco.com> > 602-677-9402 > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
Back when I worked there early 2000's and took over the network from @home, we'd begun, at times forcibly, to get the business services installers to refurb the site more than normal contractors might for "just video". Mainly if there were even borderline issues, we pushed them to clean things up up front, replacing buried cable with conduits, old coax, bad feeders, etc. Helped a lot when we trained them to treat it more like a data circuit than an analog video connection where data path sensitivity was far more necessary, and seems pretty standard those guys have a good QAM meter when coming on-site. Not sure how it is now for later installs, but I'd like to think good habits hold true, especially since internet and video are all data connections. I would think they probably fixed up some of your house cabling when moving to business, fix old splitters and direct runs, but really nothing upstream with the network changes with going from res to business. If you don't need same day on-site support for an outage on premise, or open ports for http/smtp, then residential is often more than adequate. -mb On 07/12/2016 06:25 PM, Keith Smith wrote: I had consumer Cox for maybe 8 years. I would occasionally experience some downtime. I moved to Cox Business maybe 4 years ago. Less down time. I work out of my house so the network did not changes, or maybe the immediate network did not change. I am able to run a server, which I do not... but did for a short time... Long Story Speed is ok. Occasionally things will slow. Who knows why? I cannot tell you if there is any downtime in the middle of the night. Maybe I'll move back to consumer. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
They will send you to the termination department where they will offer you a deal to stay. On 2016-07-02 19:25, Bob Elzer wrote: Have you tried asking them to renew your current plan, or telling them you will leave if they don't ? Also, if they say go ahead and leave, hang up and call back and get someone else and go through the same thing, repeating until you get the answer you want. I find most of these reps don't care or don't know what they can offer you. When I had roadrunner, they would send me a bill with the new price for HBO, when I told them to cancel, they would renew the old plan. It once took me 9 months to get quest to fix my bill, 9 months to find the right person that knew what they were doing and that I was right. I'll bet you can get your deal renewed, or a better one. They really would rather keep you as a customer. On Jul 2, 2016 12:32 AM, "Nathan England" wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Howdy all, It seems my current cox package has expired and my rates are set to sky rocket. I currently have the premium internet which is 150mbps for $79.99. I can pay $10 more a month and get the cox business internet which is 25mbps. I'm conflicted with whether or not it is worth the price. My internet now is pretty fast, I cannot often complain about the speed, but I'm curious, is the 25mb dedicated better than my 150 on a perfect day? - -- Nathan England Web Developer LAMP Administrator Information Security nat...@nmecs.com (480) 559-9681 [1] https://www.nmecs.com [2] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXd235AAoJEOuk7+DwYjzggn8H/RW1ZpPhiWL1m3HYiN/YKGsk HcMjPksQfghgdGRPKK4NOvJ8o32x/QBCJmnmeVH7IxbuDfq2WGVUo607UJp8CbWM 6CwJvEp3U7Vk/opyPzdkNgKuLj1VxlShSP6aQb7EijmAK5wv8AZXYJGFXozMiVkb AEuPXsgh6qPcds3225/GWo4Ke6T2ddKwwMbHntvT+CMUYy8Pb56jlzVtqHsNLmKU RsJZoZjWV04y+VKj1Vi6TRZlq/mzwRIk8VcRMZ3s2O7gyYJR5yZFgG13myPlEu3r 5eJZql+G4j627Egvqqn15k1q6s3PyB5b3aSZ6MXG/eXJEzd44ckc9t5XHsDTlj4= =Lxuh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [3] Links: -- [1] tel:%28480%29%20559-9681 [2] https://www.nmecs.com [3] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
I had consumer Cox for maybe 8 years. I would occasionally experience some downtime. I moved to Cox Business maybe 4 years ago. Less down time. I work out of my house so the network did not changes, or maybe the immediate network did not change. I am able to run a server, which I do not... but did for a short time... Long Story Speed is ok. Occasionally things will slow. Who knows why? I cannot tell you if there is any downtime in the middle of the night. Maybe I'll move back to consumer. On 2016-07-03 18:50, Nathan England wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What got me even considering this is that at my house, with 150mb service and a few devices streaming and playing games my general download speeds and browsing speeds become noticeably bad despite my speedtests continuously showing awesome speeds. But at my office, with 50 or so other people using the same Cox dedicated business account with 100mb speeds, it is consistently faster than my house. And at the office most people are streaming music and or netflix while surfing the web, despite all of that traffic speedtests and general surfing speed is noticeably faster. My assumption was the dedicated 100mb vs my shared 150mb and I thought maybe a dedicated 25mb would be cool, plus a bonus of ports I want. But you are saying there is not difference in the network makes me really suspicious. What else could be different? On 2016-07-03 12:32, Michael Butash wrote: Residential and Business *are* the same infrastructure when it comes to Cox HFC. The only thing that differentiates a business customer from residential is the boot file pushed to the modem at boot, the speed set up/down, and ip/port access list allowed through. Of course your bill too, nice little racket they have going to sell perceived value as *business* service is somehow really better... I wouldn't plan on google coming to you unless you're moving to some swank new subburb of ticky tacky little boxes, but cox can provide enough bandwidth over hfc you shouldn't care. Thus why they reclaimed more of their OTA (over coax rather) spectrum of free/unencrypted channels so they can resell it for data services bonding up to 32 channels @ ~42mbit ea or 1.4gbit max. Best thing about fiber is that glass (in theory) is less prone to dysfunction than copper @ 140 degree surface ground temps. Less having to have the provider re-terminate your copper every few years here... -mb On 07/02/2016 01:52 PM, Todd Cole wrote: I stuck with Residential for the speed, down time seems to be the same as business accounts tho business do get 24/7 service calls and support. a little port work and dns hop was easy to do. And I do prefer Cox vs CL but Google could be the future---maybe Todd --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss - -- Nathan England Web Developer LAMP Administration Information Security nat...@nmecs.com (480) 559-9681 https://www.nmecs.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXecDkAAoJEOuk7+DwYjzgMOwH/jjiA3CLqMHKacITEDNtxbMv X5yX8TJVkUmuzbqHP5QHgriRgbQzBid4RPW7d5n3WT86Y4U1TsPmpaOL0pVo9tZY nxX7AZoYDDROxHbmQLdKPsAnFJzVXzkxqx4abT265V2s0MErHMDILEdexvwDYid3 b2+m4xIWryAQvOoNdin2rhj0PN13JZcCldTlZPsbVKoR14xNBwaazCJRLS0VQHAY lEocjrnDbQPufSPJMjh7CTPiD7Zdtjxa3voafe2g0LXFVDhSdRRhbr8ABAg15IGp o9dqij6b4o3uKoL0zK61Xgj8b7sEwuBbniDfRS60Ay6R0/fYj8XijXIdRpOEboA= =hMwC -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2016-07-04 11:44, Bob Holtzman wrote: > > And they get paid to do this? lol, yep! A happy employee is a productive employee! - -- Nathan England Web Developer LAMP Administration Information Security nat...@nmecs.com (480) 559-9681 https://www.nmecs.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXfA2jAAoJEOuk7+DwYjzgMV0H/0HqNwPwCL5rBV96RgmFMc7a 7yD5kxGvoAZEIHIyIDOgXzGt4LE0tiCy6vhcxduj53dkkJHG2sHl3Az00qAvghAI md7euxZIS1ptJTz2DJYoV0Nfgp8t6cyb3ednc/e33GeHycjmqr2w/HHcSVSOQiIV hSq20CwwN1H1OyPnRxgWfTuSkSis9CWgbAAhzFt/nnoCSI8z9HKY5FIYj+Jxk/GH 7wbybMFCNYlinkhUbUm8ZsWGkplp9SUhaPeRoIbziZ+acV82DYQQeFLJIo7l3YRZ rgaieJVr6BNQHI/z6wzvFexFwrgH/jSvzOh56I5wDvxYalEyDKVTluaDI/QpRBQ= =FduE -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 06:50:28PM -0700, Nathan England wrote: > > > But at my office, with 50 or so other people using the same Cox > dedicated business account with 100mb speeds, it is consistently faster > than my house. And at the office most people are streaming music and or > netflix while surfing the web, despite all of that traffic speedtests > and general surfing speed is noticeably faster. And they get paid to do this? -- Bob Holtzman A man is a man who will fight with a sword or conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
Another thing to check actually, do you monitor your outbound wan port usage on your router in any way? What kind is it? More often than not, when I'd notice my bandwidth lagging, I'd check my utilization at the cable modem port, and find one of my roommates doing something on the network, downloading, bittorrenting, otherwise consuming large amounts of throughput/connections. If you have others in the house, I'd check what they might be doing too. Most wrt routers can do this, or sniff the network with ntop too. I have shaped my roommates traffic down before. With cable modems, your downstream can be highly affected by your upstream, where at times if you don't cap something like seeding bittorrents outbound, you can generate enough upstream bandwidth your downstream becomes impeded. Depending on your router/firewall doing nat for your network, they at times have connection limits that things like bittorrent can choke easily, as do games too with mass amounts of udp packets. Oddly the wrt54g* variants are still some of the best selling devices still with only g-only radios, and are terrible for high-throughput with their puny cpu's and 2.4ghz radios, so I always ask. Suspect your router/local network, your work probably has a much better firewall doing that effort to use the connection. -mb On 07/03/2016 06:50 PM, Nathan England wrote: What got me even considering this is that at my house, with 150mb service and a few devices streaming and playing games my general download speeds and browsing speeds become noticeably bad despite my speedtests continuously showing awesome speeds. But at my office, with 50 or so other people using the same Cox dedicated business account with 100mb speeds, it is consistently faster than my house. And at the office most people are streaming music and or netflix while surfing the web, despite all of that traffic speedtests and general surfing speed is noticeably faster. My assumption was the dedicated 100mb vs my shared 150mb and I thought maybe a dedicated 25mb would be cool, plus a bonus of ports I want. But you are saying there is not difference in the network makes me really suspicious. What else could be different? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
I get no variation at my house, never have (peoria), which is consistent with what you *should* see. If not, you're either a) in a saturated area for users, or b) you have RF issues at the house. RF is variable, especially with temperatures as we see in az, and the copper tends to go bad at least every few years. Not all bad, but "suck out" occurs for the central conductor after enough expansion and contraction with heat/cold, and needs re-terminated. Check your levels on your modem direct (192.168.100.1 usually) if they allow for it, or call Cox and have them check. Nice part if you can see it yourself is you can check periodically when you're seeing issues, and just compare the upstream power, downstream power, and SNR levels against "normal" (google it). If you're RF is spot on, you might be a congested area. Cable is a shared access medium, but Cox is usually pretty good about splitting nodes when things get too busy. If they have too many subs on a node, they'll physically split the RF, and peel off as many as they can into a new node area, standard for how they deal with oversubscription. Routine outages are often exactly this occurring. You can ask cox how dense it is there, their tools will know (maybe just not the viewer interpreting it), but you'll likely not get a real answer out of them. If you hit a wall, let me know where you are offline (city/area), I can make something of an informal query how bad it is there. -mb On 07/03/2016 06:50 PM, Nathan England wrote: What got me even considering this is that at my house, with 150mb service and a few devices streaming and playing games my general download speeds and browsing speeds become noticeably bad despite my speedtests continuously showing awesome speeds. But at my office, with 50 or so other people using the same Cox dedicated business account with 100mb speeds, it is consistently faster than my house. And at the office most people are streaming music and or netflix while surfing the web, despite all of that traffic speedtests and general surfing speed is noticeably faster. My assumption was the dedicated 100mb vs my shared 150mb and I thought maybe a dedicated 25mb would be cool, plus a bonus of ports I want. But you are saying there is not difference in the network makes me really suspicious. What else could be different? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
HTTP caching I use this to save some speed on several servers it saves often used pages in a local file https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/increasing-application-performance-with-http-cache-headers one simple way to speed up surfing On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Nathan England wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > What got me even considering this is that at my house, with 150mb > service and a few devices streaming and playing games my general > download speeds and browsing speeds become noticeably bad despite my > speedtests continuously showing awesome speeds. > > But at my office, with 50 or so other people using the same Cox > dedicated business account with 100mb speeds, it is consistently faster > than my house. And at the office most people are streaming music and or > netflix while surfing the web, despite all of that traffic speedtests > and general surfing speed is noticeably faster. > > My assumption was the dedicated 100mb vs my shared 150mb and I thought > maybe a dedicated 25mb would be cool, plus a bonus of ports I want. > > But you are saying there is not difference in the network makes me > really suspicious. What else could be different? > > > > > > On 2016-07-03 12:32, Michael Butash wrote: > > Residential and Business *are* the same infrastructure when it comes > > to Cox HFC. The only thing that differentiates a business customer > > from residential is the boot file pushed to the modem at boot, the > > speed set up/down, and ip/port access list allowed through. Of course > > your bill too, nice little racket they have going to sell perceived > > value as *business* service is somehow really better... > > > > I wouldn't plan on google coming to you unless you're moving to some > > swank new subburb of ticky tacky little boxes, but cox can provide > > enough bandwidth over hfc you shouldn't care. Thus why they reclaimed > > more of their OTA (over coax rather) spectrum of free/unencrypted > > channels so they can resell it for data services bonding up to 32 > > channels @ ~42mbit ea or 1.4gbit max. > > > > Best thing about fiber is that glass (in theory) is less prone to > > dysfunction than copper @ 140 degree surface ground temps. Less > > having to have the provider re-terminate your copper every few years > > here... > > > > -mb > > > > > > On 07/02/2016 01:52 PM, Todd Cole wrote: > >> I stuck with Residential for the speed, down time seems to be the same > as business accounts tho business do get 24/7 service calls and support. a > little port work and dns hop was easy to do. And I do prefer Cox vs CL but > >> Google could be the future---maybe > >> Todd > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > - -- > > Nathan England > Web Developer > LAMP Administration > Information Security > nat...@nmecs.com > (480) 559-9681 > https://www.nmecs.com > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXecDkAAoJEOuk7+DwYjzgMOwH/jjiA3CLqMHKacITEDNtxbMv > X5yX8TJVkUmuzbqHP5QHgriRgbQzBid4RPW7d5n3WT86Y4U1TsPmpaOL0pVo9tZY > nxX7AZoYDDROxHbmQLdKPsAnFJzVXzkxqx4abT265V2s0MErHMDILEdexvwDYid3 > b2+m4xIWryAQvOoNdin2rhj0PN13JZcCldTlZPsbVKoR14xNBwaazCJRLS0VQHAY > lEocjrnDbQPufSPJMjh7CTPiD7Zdtjxa3voafe2g0LXFVDhSdRRhbr8ABAg15IGp > o9dqij6b4o3uKoL0zK61Xgj8b7sEwuBbniDfRS60Ay6R0/fYj8XijXIdRpOEboA= > =hMwC > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Todd Cole Ubuntu Arizona Team 4605 S PRIEST DR LOT 3 TEMPE AZ 85282-6507 to...@azloco.com 602-677-9402 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What got me even considering this is that at my house, with 150mb service and a few devices streaming and playing games my general download speeds and browsing speeds become noticeably bad despite my speedtests continuously showing awesome speeds. But at my office, with 50 or so other people using the same Cox dedicated business account with 100mb speeds, it is consistently faster than my house. And at the office most people are streaming music and or netflix while surfing the web, despite all of that traffic speedtests and general surfing speed is noticeably faster. My assumption was the dedicated 100mb vs my shared 150mb and I thought maybe a dedicated 25mb would be cool, plus a bonus of ports I want. But you are saying there is not difference in the network makes me really suspicious. What else could be different? On 2016-07-03 12:32, Michael Butash wrote: > Residential and Business *are* the same infrastructure when it comes > to Cox HFC. The only thing that differentiates a business customer > from residential is the boot file pushed to the modem at boot, the > speed set up/down, and ip/port access list allowed through. Of course > your bill too, nice little racket they have going to sell perceived > value as *business* service is somehow really better... > > I wouldn't plan on google coming to you unless you're moving to some > swank new subburb of ticky tacky little boxes, but cox can provide > enough bandwidth over hfc you shouldn't care. Thus why they reclaimed > more of their OTA (over coax rather) spectrum of free/unencrypted > channels so they can resell it for data services bonding up to 32 > channels @ ~42mbit ea or 1.4gbit max. > > Best thing about fiber is that glass (in theory) is less prone to > dysfunction than copper @ 140 degree surface ground temps. Less > having to have the provider re-terminate your copper every few years > here... > > -mb > > > On 07/02/2016 01:52 PM, Todd Cole wrote: >> I stuck with Residential for the speed, down time seems to be the same as >> business accounts tho business do get 24/7 service calls and support. a >> little port work and dns hop was easy to do. And I do prefer Cox vs CL but >> Google could be the future---maybe >> Todd > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss - -- Nathan England Web Developer LAMP Administration Information Security nat...@nmecs.com (480) 559-9681 https://www.nmecs.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXecDkAAoJEOuk7+DwYjzgMOwH/jjiA3CLqMHKacITEDNtxbMv X5yX8TJVkUmuzbqHP5QHgriRgbQzBid4RPW7d5n3WT86Y4U1TsPmpaOL0pVo9tZY nxX7AZoYDDROxHbmQLdKPsAnFJzVXzkxqx4abT265V2s0MErHMDILEdexvwDYid3 b2+m4xIWryAQvOoNdin2rhj0PN13JZcCldTlZPsbVKoR14xNBwaazCJRLS0VQHAY lEocjrnDbQPufSPJMjh7CTPiD7Zdtjxa3voafe2g0LXFVDhSdRRhbr8ABAg15IGp o9dqij6b4o3uKoL0zK61Xgj8b7sEwuBbniDfRS60Ay6R0/fYj8XijXIdRpOEboA= =hMwC -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
Residential and Business *are* the same infrastructure when it comes to Cox HFC. The only thing that differentiates a business customer from residential is the boot file pushed to the modem at boot, the speed set up/down, and ip/port access list allowed through. Of course your bill too, nice little racket they have going to sell perceived value as *business* service is somehow really better... I wouldn't plan on google coming to you unless you're moving to some swank new subburb of ticky tacky little boxes, but cox can provide enough bandwidth over hfc you shouldn't care. Thus why they reclaimed more of their OTA (over coax rather) spectrum of free/unencrypted channels so they can resell it for data services bonding up to 32 channels @ ~42mbit ea or 1.4gbit max. Best thing about fiber is that glass (in theory) is less prone to dysfunction than copper @ 140 degree surface ground temps. Less having to have the provider re-terminate your copper every few years here... -mb On 07/02/2016 01:52 PM, Todd Cole wrote: I stuck with Residential for the speed, down time seems to be the same as business accounts tho business do get 24/7 service calls and support. a little port work and dns hop was easy to do. And I do prefer Cox vs CL but Google could be the future---maybe Todd --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
Have you tried asking them to renew your current plan, or telling them you will leave if they don't ? Also, if they say go ahead and leave, hang up and call back and get someone else and go through the same thing, repeating until you get the answer you want. I find most of these reps don't care or don't know what they can offer you. When I had roadrunner, they would send me a bill with the new price for HBO, when I told them to cancel, they would renew the old plan. It once took me 9 months to get quest to fix my bill, 9 months to find the right person that knew what they were doing and that I was right. I'll bet you can get your deal renewed, or a better one. They really would rather keep you as a customer. On Jul 2, 2016 12:32 AM, "Nathan England" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Howdy all, > > It seems my current cox package has expired and my rates are set to sky > rocket. I currently have the premium internet which is 150mbps for > $79.99. I can pay $10 more a month and get the cox business internet > which is 25mbps. > > I'm conflicted with whether or not it is worth the price. My internet > now is pretty fast, I cannot often complain about the speed, but I'm > curious, is the 25mb dedicated better than my 150 on a perfect day? > > - -- > > Nathan England > Web Developer > LAMP Administrator > Information Security > nat...@nmecs.com > (480) 559-9681 > https://www.nmecs.com > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXd235AAoJEOuk7+DwYjzggn8H/RW1ZpPhiWL1m3HYiN/YKGsk > HcMjPksQfghgdGRPKK4NOvJ8o32x/QBCJmnmeVH7IxbuDfq2WGVUo607UJp8CbWM > 6CwJvEp3U7Vk/opyPzdkNgKuLj1VxlShSP6aQb7EijmAK5wv8AZXYJGFXozMiVkb > AEuPXsgh6qPcds3225/GWo4Ke6T2ddKwwMbHntvT+CMUYy8Pb56jlzVtqHsNLmKU > RsJZoZjWV04y+VKj1Vi6TRZlq/mzwRIk8VcRMZ3s2O7gyYJR5yZFgG13myPlEu3r > 5eJZql+G4j627Egvqqn15k1q6s3PyB5b3aSZ6MXG/eXJEzd44ckc9t5XHsDTlj4= > =Lxuh > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
I stuck with Residential for the speed, down time seems to be the same as business accounts tho business do get 24/7 service calls and support. a little port work and dns hop was easy to do. And I do prefer Cox vs CL but Google could be the future---maybe Todd On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Sesso wrote: > They don't stand up to their uptime guarantee. Our business line went down > a minimum of 2 times a month In phx and one time a month in Chandler. They > said it was maintenance and they wouldn't reimburse us. Sometimes it would > go down for six hours overnight and we are a 24/7 business. > > Jason > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 2, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > > > > well, they do have an uptime guarantee and also several static IP's in > the business package. In all honesty, unless you are running a business, > residential will definitely meet your needs. > > > > -eric > > > >> On Jul 2, 2016, at 12:32 AM, Nathan England wrote: > >> > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> > >> Howdy all, > >> > >> It seems my current cox package has expired and my rates are set to sky > >> rocket. I currently have the premium internet which is 150mbps for > >> $79.99. I can pay $10 more a month and get the cox business internet > >> which is 25mbps. > >> > >> I'm conflicted with whether or not it is worth the price. My internet > >> now is pretty fast, I cannot often complain about the speed, but I'm > >> curious, is the 25mb dedicated better than my 150 on a perfect day? > >> > >> - -- > >> > >> Nathan England > >> Web Developer > >> LAMP Administrator > >> Information Security > >> nat...@nmecs.com > >> (480) 559-9681 > >> https://www.nmecs.com > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >> Version: GnuPG v1 > >> > >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXd235AAoJEOuk7+DwYjzggn8H/RW1ZpPhiWL1m3HYiN/YKGsk > >> HcMjPksQfghgdGRPKK4NOvJ8o32x/QBCJmnmeVH7IxbuDfq2WGVUo607UJp8CbWM > >> 6CwJvEp3U7Vk/opyPzdkNgKuLj1VxlShSP6aQb7EijmAK5wv8AZXYJGFXozMiVkb > >> AEuPXsgh6qPcds3225/GWo4Ke6T2ddKwwMbHntvT+CMUYy8Pb56jlzVtqHsNLmKU > >> RsJZoZjWV04y+VKj1Vi6TRZlq/mzwRIk8VcRMZ3s2O7gyYJR5yZFgG13myPlEu3r > >> 5eJZql+G4j627Egvqqn15k1q6s3PyB5b3aSZ6MXG/eXJEzd44ckc9t5XHsDTlj4= > >> =Lxuh > >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Todd Cole Ubuntu Arizona Team 4605 S PRIEST DR LOT 3 TEMPE AZ 85282-6507 to...@azloco.com 602-677-9402 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
They don't stand up to their uptime guarantee. Our business line went down a minimum of 2 times a month In phx and one time a month in Chandler. They said it was maintenance and they wouldn't reimburse us. Sometimes it would go down for six hours overnight and we are a 24/7 business. Jason Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > > well, they do have an uptime guarantee and also several static IP's in the > business package. In all honesty, unless you are running a business, > residential will definitely meet your needs. > > -eric > >> On Jul 2, 2016, at 12:32 AM, Nathan England wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> Howdy all, >> >> It seems my current cox package has expired and my rates are set to sky >> rocket. I currently have the premium internet which is 150mbps for >> $79.99. I can pay $10 more a month and get the cox business internet >> which is 25mbps. >> >> I'm conflicted with whether or not it is worth the price. My internet >> now is pretty fast, I cannot often complain about the speed, but I'm >> curious, is the 25mb dedicated better than my 150 on a perfect day? >> >> - -- >> >> Nathan England >> Web Developer >> LAMP Administrator >> Information Security >> nat...@nmecs.com >> (480) 559-9681 >> https://www.nmecs.com >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1 >> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXd235AAoJEOuk7+DwYjzggn8H/RW1ZpPhiWL1m3HYiN/YKGsk >> HcMjPksQfghgdGRPKK4NOvJ8o32x/QBCJmnmeVH7IxbuDfq2WGVUo607UJp8CbWM >> 6CwJvEp3U7Vk/opyPzdkNgKuLj1VxlShSP6aQb7EijmAK5wv8AZXYJGFXozMiVkb >> AEuPXsgh6qPcds3225/GWo4Ke6T2ddKwwMbHntvT+CMUYy8Pb56jlzVtqHsNLmKU >> RsJZoZjWV04y+VKj1Vi6TRZlq/mzwRIk8VcRMZ3s2O7gyYJR5yZFgG13myPlEu3r >> 5eJZql+G4j627Egvqqn15k1q6s3PyB5b3aSZ6MXG/eXJEzd44ckc9t5XHsDTlj4= >> =Lxuh >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
At one point I fought with Cox, asking how to get a secondary IP address on Residential, as they used to do this for another 5-10 a month. Surprisingly (or not), no one could tell me. Most of the people could barely spell IP let alone know what they were, but finally after the 4th call I got to an engineer that had a clue, telling me that purchasing their "ultimate" residential plan would allow for up to three IP addresses. When I'm paying for their 50mb plan, and more than suitable for my needs, I didn't see the point in paying double for double the bandwidth I don't even use today, just for more addresses. I ended up just being more creative with my port forwarding, where I'd have been happy to spend another $10/mo for another address for my second firewall. -mb On 07/02/2016 12:22 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: well, they do have an uptime guarantee and also several static IP's in the business package. In all honesty, unless you are running a business, residential will definitely meet your needs. -eric --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
well, they do have an uptime guarantee and also several static IP's in the business package. In all honesty, unless you are running a business, residential will definitely meet your needs. -eric On Jul 2, 2016, at 12:32 AM, Nathan England wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Howdy all, > > It seems my current cox package has expired and my rates are set to sky > rocket. I currently have the premium internet which is 150mbps for > $79.99. I can pay $10 more a month and get the cox business internet > which is 25mbps. > > I'm conflicted with whether or not it is worth the price. My internet > now is pretty fast, I cannot often complain about the speed, but I'm > curious, is the 25mb dedicated better than my 150 on a perfect day? > > - -- > > Nathan England > Web Developer > LAMP Administrator > Information Security > nat...@nmecs.com > (480) 559-9681 > https://www.nmecs.com > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXd235AAoJEOuk7+DwYjzggn8H/RW1ZpPhiWL1m3HYiN/YKGsk > HcMjPksQfghgdGRPKK4NOvJ8o32x/QBCJmnmeVH7IxbuDfq2WGVUo607UJp8CbWM > 6CwJvEp3U7Vk/opyPzdkNgKuLj1VxlShSP6aQb7EijmAK5wv8AZXYJGFXozMiVkb > AEuPXsgh6qPcds3225/GWo4Ke6T2ddKwwMbHntvT+CMUYy8Pb56jlzVtqHsNLmKU > RsJZoZjWV04y+VKj1Vi6TRZlq/mzwRIk8VcRMZ3s2O7gyYJR5yZFgG13myPlEu3r > 5eJZql+G4j627Egvqqn15k1q6s3PyB5b3aSZ6MXG/eXJEzd44ckc9t5XHsDTlj4= > =Lxuh > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cox Business Internet
The only thing it really gets you is: 1) better support sla for on-site (bad cable, az happens) 2) slightly better port access (http/smtp) 3) routing if desired (static prefix or bgp) Otherwise, I do everything over residential service. Since they opened https for sslvpn, even less desirable to pay more for business services. There is no other differentiation, priority, etc in bandwidth. -mb On 07/02/2016 12:32 AM, Nathan England wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Howdy all, It seems my current cox package has expired and my rates are set to sky rocket. I currently have the premium internet which is 150mbps for $79.99. I can pay $10 more a month and get the cox business internet which is 25mbps. I'm conflicted with whether or not it is worth the price. My internet now is pretty fast, I cannot often complain about the speed, but I'm curious, is the 25mb dedicated better than my 150 on a perfect day? - -- Nathan England Web Developer LAMP Administrator Information Security nat...@nmecs.com (480) 559-9681 https://www.nmecs.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXd235AAoJEOuk7+DwYjzggn8H/RW1ZpPhiWL1m3HYiN/YKGsk HcMjPksQfghgdGRPKK4NOvJ8o32x/QBCJmnmeVH7IxbuDfq2WGVUo607UJp8CbWM 6CwJvEp3U7Vk/opyPzdkNgKuLj1VxlShSP6aQb7EijmAK5wv8AZXYJGFXozMiVkb AEuPXsgh6qPcds3225/GWo4Ke6T2ddKwwMbHntvT+CMUYy8Pb56jlzVtqHsNLmKU RsJZoZjWV04y+VKj1Vi6TRZlq/mzwRIk8VcRMZ3s2O7gyYJR5yZFgG13myPlEu3r 5eJZql+G4j627Egvqqn15k1q6s3PyB5b3aSZ6MXG/eXJEzd44ckc9t5XHsDTlj4= =Lxuh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
