Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
KC Bill wrote; We (Jack Copeland, Nancy Copeland and Cathy Weigel) started out in the back of the really packed (though not sold out) venue, so the sound had to compete with the conversations around us, but this may have still been the worst overall sound I've heard in ages. Crap...I went tonight here in StL. It was horrid. Miss. Nights, rock venue. People would not shut up. I was halfway back or so, people would not shut up. I'm honestly gonna write a letter of apology to the McCourys and Earle, it was that bad. After the Buckner debacle last month I feel like a broken record. Hope if Kip or John or Jim Nelson or any other locals were there you were up really close. Steve tried to tactfully (well, tactfully for Steve (g) chide folks into maybe actually listening, but to no avail... I mean I felt like an asshole for even being there, and I apologize to all the musicians on stage because what I could hear was great. dan, pissed. sorry for even throwing this one up here.
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Tar Hut Jeff quotes Bill and says: Jason Carter's solo discs were priced at $17. I'd have certainly given them $15 for the record, and fully intended to, but I couldn't find my wallet when it came to the extra $2, which seemed a little gouge-y to me. No offense- so I'm a piker. Winterland is the merch company that sells Steve cds etc. and in order for them to sell Jason and the McCoury cds they take a percentage of the sales. And then the venue also takes their cut so they probably mark up the price of their cds so they can actual make a little money.
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Jason Carter's solo discs were priced at $17. I'd have certainly given them $15 for the record, and fully intended to, but I couldn't find my wallet when it came to the extra $2, which seemed a little gouge-y to me. No offense- so I'm a piker. You have to wonder how much Rounder is charging them for the discs...maybe the only way they can profit off it is to charge that much..
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"Tar Hut Records" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/31 1:53 PM You have to wonder how much Rounder is charging them for the discs...maybe the only way they can profit off it is to charge that much.. Rounder's artist price is $6 a unit. I'd say they're making quite a profit... Jim Nelson
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Tar Hut Records wrote: Jason Carter's solo discs were priced at $17. I'd have certainly given them $15 for the record, and fully intended to, but I couldn't find my wallet when it came to the extra $2, which seemed a little gouge-y to me. No offense- so I'm a piker. You have to wonder how much Rounder is charging them for the discs...maybe the only way they can profit off it is to charge that much.. Yeah, maybe, but it makes their selling it after the show rather more a service to fans without internet access than a moneymaking venture. Anytime a band will sell me their record for $12 and/or a t-shirt for $10- relative bargains I'll grant- I'll buy them. Otherwise, I'd better be awful darn impressed, and in a generous/inspired mood. It *does* happen. g No weasel swag here, b.s.
RE: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Tar Hut Jeff quotes Bill and says: Jason Carter's solo discs were priced at $17. I'd have certainly given them $15 for the record, and fully intended to, but I couldn't find my wallet when it came to the extra $2, which seemed a little gouge-y to me. No offense- so I'm a piker. You have to wonder how much Rounder is charging them for the discs...maybe the only way they can profit off it is to charge that much.. Bill also noted that they were asking $17 for The Family, which isn't on Rounder, but on Ceili. On the larger question, so to speak, bluegrassers not infrequently are willing to pay top dollar at the record table for stuff they could easily buy for less at retail in order to 1) feel better about shaking and howdying with the artist (they may worry about the artist feeling it's a waste of time when they're not buying), and 2) support the artist by buying directly. Even at $15 it's usually a couple of bucks over the lowest available price... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
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CK-wan wrote: -Local resident Iris Dement got the best crowd reaction of the night, both on her duet with Steve Earle "I'm Still In Love With You", and the Tom T. Hall cover (help me out here somebody?) she did. Del and Ronnie can sing with the best, but Iris killed. I'm guessing either I miss alot of Trains, which is on the Tom T Hall Project or I washed my face in the morning dew which she did in Nashville. Bingo. "I Washed My Face in the Morning Dew". Band was a little ragged on backup, (Jason and Ronnie nearly collided at the mic, and were smiling about it) but the crowd was so up and the band seemed really pleased to be working with Iris Dement again. After the tumultuous response to the duet, Steve Earle remarked how much they'd missed doing the tune, since they hadn't since those Station Inn shows. (You dog.) b.s. n.p. Young Fresh Fellows, THE MEN WHO LOVED MUSIC
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Jon Weisberger noted: Bill also noted that they were asking $17 for The Family, which isn't on Rounder, but on Ceili. Right, which made me a little curiouser, though it's all business of course. On the larger question, so to speak, bluegrassers not infrequently are willing to pay top dollar at the record table for stuff they could easily buy for less at retail in order to 1) feel better about shaking and howdying with the artist (they may worry about the artist feeling it's a waste of time when they're not buying), and 2) support the artist by buying directly. Even at $15 it's usually a couple of bucks over the lowest available price... So a markup to $17 isn't uncommon? Hmm.And I was ready and willing to give $15, but I was taken aback at $17. I guess that $15's where the old "indifference curve" flattens out for me. And now that I've shown my cheap-ass, I'll be sure to buy something when they return for the River Valley Bluegrass Festival on May 7th. g b.s.
RE: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
On the larger question, so to speak, bluegrassers not infrequently are willing to pay top dollar at the record table for stuff they could easily buy for less at retail in order to 1) feel better about shaking and howdying with the artist (they may worry about the artist feeling it's a waste of time when they're not buying), and 2) support the artist by buying directly. Even at $15 it's usually a couple of bucks over the lowest available price... So a markup to $17 isn't uncommon? Hmm.And I was ready and willing to give $15, but I was taken aback at $17. I guess that $15's where the old "indifference curve" flattens out for me. Everyone's curve flattens out at a different place, I guess, and of course, some folks (like, f'r instance, me) will sometimes buy at retail even when there's no price differential in order to have an impact there. Anyhow, $17 has been uncommon, at least at festivals, although we're heading into a new season, and maybe it will soon be the norm. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Jon Weisberger wrote: Even at $15 it's usually a couple of bucks over the lowest available price... So a markup to $17 isn't uncommon? Hmm.And I was ready and willing to give $15, but I was taken aback at $17. I guess that $15's where the old "indifference curve" flattens out for me. Everyone's curve flattens out at a different place, I guess, and of course, some folks (like, f'r instance, me) will sometimes buy at retail even when there's no price differential in order to have an impact there. Anyhow, $17 has been uncommon, at least at festivals, although we're heading into a new season, and maybe it will soon be the norm. The problem's been that the record simply hasn't been available at any local retail outlets, and I think KC's still a top-30 market. Record-store-guy Jack Copeland blames the distributor. Still, if the country's foremost bluegrass band can't get their record in the stores, that swag table becomes a lot more important, which I gather is the norm for other bluegrass acts. Now *that's* a damn shame- why'd I think this might be an exception? b.s.
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
At 02:53 PM 3/31/99 -0600, CK wrote: I'm guessing either I miss alot of Trains, which is on the Tom T Hall Project or I washed my face in the morning dew which she did in Nashville. And Bill replied: Bingo. "I Washed My Face in the Morning Dew". Let me chime in and confirm it was "Morning Dew" -- most certainly ragged but very very right. I felt fortunate we heard two tunes from Iris, who certainly isn't one to linger on stage any longer than she has to. Not much I can add to Bill's as-usual observant report of the KC show. One thought: I'm recalling the recent thread about best guitar pickers that compared Earle's talents to Del McCoury, and am thinking that maybe Steve's even braver to play mandolin on the same stage as Ronnie McCoury. No disrespect whatsoever meant toward Earle, whose chop I like just fine. But I'd have to say that young Mr. McCoury (isn't he a recent IBMA mando guy of the year?) makes Steve -- and probably a lot of others who'd make greater claims for their playing than Steve ever would -- look pretty ham-fisted. Oh, and this: Given Earle propensity for using the same jokes show-to-show, I'll dutifully report that we also heard that the 20th Maine saved us all from sounding like Steve Del 'n' boys -- thanks for spoiling the punchline, Chicago folks (g), and for those on down the road from us, sorry if I'm ruining it for you. And I'll also dutifully report that Earle dedicated "Copperhead Road" to the guy who ceaslessly hollered for it all evening long -- quote: "Here you go, asshole." Y'know, I can't in my wildest dreams imagine Del McCoury ever doing anything even remotely like that. Hey, Junior, we missed you at Roadhouse Ruby's -- hope your Lawrence show with FW and Deke Dickerson was hot! Jack Copeland Shawnee, Kansas
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In a message dated 3/31/1999 7:53:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And I'll also dutifully report that Earle dedicated "Copperhead Road" to the guy who ceaslessly hollered for it all evening long -- quote: "Here you go, asshole." Y'know, I can't in my wildest dreams imagine Del McCoury ever doing anything even remotely like that. ...it was real interesting to watch Steve cursing his head off as Del moved further and further back into the darkness of the stage at The Vic, Chicago. I'm surprised he lasts as long as he does when Steve is ranting about record labels, the death penalty, the audience or other sordid issues. I'll say this for The Del McCoury Band...someone yells for a request, and the band IMMEDIATELY jumps into it (when they tour on their own). At some shows/festivals, the entire night is made up of requests with new material thrown in to push the product. Once again, solid lessons from the "Wanda Jackson School of Entertainment" = they paid good money, we're gonna give 'em what they want! IMHO, Steve's approach is much more rigid and, in a way, less gratifying after seeing Del and the boyz in action. Kate.
RE: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Jack says: I'd have to say that young Mr. McCoury (isn't he a recent IBMA mando guy of the year?) makes Steve -- and probably a lot of others who'd make greater claims for their playing than Steve ever would -- look pretty ham-fisted. Ronnie's pretty well got a lock on that award, having won it back in October for the 6th year in a row. The last year the World of Bluegrass Trade Show and Awards ceremony was held in Owensboro, he came down off the stage and gave it to Mr. Monroe, which was a classy thing to do. Kate said: I'll say this for The Del McCoury Band...someone yells for a request, and the band IMMEDIATELY jumps into it (when they tour on their own). At some shows/festivals, the entire night is made up of requests with new material thrown in to push the product. Here's Del on the subject, from an interview conducted in January: "Q: You said that you get up on stage and do what comes to you. Do you think at all about how to balance out...you must get a lot of requests, but yet you have a new album that youre trying to get people interested in, and especially when youre going out to mixed audiences... Del: Ill tell you, usually what we do when we get up there, before they start hollering requests and get loosened up, you can do your new thing for a while, maybe twenty or thirty minutes, then somebodyll start requesting and well do that, but that way we get the new stuff in, I dont know what order itll come in..." Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
