Re: Recordable CD Players
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Brad Bechtel wrote: If you own a Mac, I'd recommend getting a copy of Adaptec Toast (version 3.5.6 is the most current). Heartily seconded. I picked up a La Cie 4x write/8x read CD-R unit for my Mac last week, and Toast (along with the Audio Extractor) is *really* easy to use. I've already done a full set of system backups, as well as burned a custom audio CD or two. All of them were easy and fast, with no problems at all. Making an audio CD, in fact, took less than an hour- you capture each individual track to your hard drive (which takes about 30 seconds per track, because computer CD/DVD drives read at a much higher speed than the audio CD standard) and then write the CD once all the tracks are captured and put in the proper order. Nothing to it. CD-R drives aren't super cheap (mine was under $300 with a 10-pack of discs), but I'm thoroughly impressed with mine, and the backup capability alone is worth the price. Tom
Re: Recordable CD Players... how does tracking work?
At 09:06 AM 3/8/99 -0500, you wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Brad Bechtel wrote: If you own a Mac, I'd recommend getting a copy of Adaptec Toast (version 3.5.6 is the most current). Heartily seconded. I picked up a La Cie 4x write/8x read CD-R unit for my Mac last week, and Toast (along with the Audio Extractor) is *really* easy to use. I've already done a full set of system backups, as well as burned a custom audio CD or two. All of them were easy and fast, with no problems at all. Making an audio CD, in fact, took less than an hour- you capture each individual track to your hard drive (which takes about 30 seconds per track, because computer CD/DVD drives read at a much higher speed than the audio CD standard) and then write the CD once all the tracks are captured and put in the proper order. Nothing to it. CD-R drives aren't super cheap (mine was under $300 with a 10-pack of discs), but I'm thoroughly impressed with mine, and the backup capability alone is worth the price. Tom A quick question: What if you are copy a live recording (such as a bootleg) that is indexed, but there are no clear spaces on the original? Is this easy to replicate or do you end up either keeping the entire recording as a single track or putting annoying blank spaces in between the tracks? Also, can you control how long the blank spaces are between each track? thanks -- Doug
RE: Recordable CD Players
At 09:13 AM 3/8/99 -0500, you wrote: Making an audio CD, in fact, took less than an hour- you capture each individual track to your hard drive (which takes about 30 seconds per track, because computer CD/DVD drives read at a much higher speed than the audio CD standard)... Generally, but not always true; the CD drive has to support digital audio extraction, and not all of them do, though the feature is more likely to be missing on older drives than new ones. If your CD player plays audio CDs, will extract digital audio to disk? D.
Recordable CD Players
Hey all, I've been thinking about picking up a home CD Recordable unit. Does anybody out there own one, or have you heard of a particular brand/model that is supposed to be good? Does the quality vary alot between brands? Also, is there any audible difference between getting a home unit (stereo component) and buying one for a computer with the intent of duping music? thanks -- Shawn _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Recordable CD Players
Also, is there any audible difference between getting a home unit (stereo component) and buying one for a computer with the intent of duping music? As far as I know, there's no audible difference, but there's a financial one, as a friend of mine recently discovered: the standalone, home units require discs that cost substantially more than the ones used in computer peripherals (he says he's paying $6-$7 a disc, as opposed to $1-$2). As I understand it - and if I'm wrong, I have no doubt that someone will correct me - the difference is related largely to a royalty that goes to the record companies, purportedly to offset the cost of unauthorized duplication of CDs; the discs used in the computer peripherals are exempt because of their double duty as data storage media. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Recordable CD Players
At 10:16 AM 3/5/99 -0800, you wrote: Hey all, I've been thinking about picking up a home CD Recordable unit. Does anybody out there own one, or have you heard of a particular brand/model that is supposed to be good? Does the quality vary alot between brands? Also, is there any audible difference between getting a home unit (stereo component) and buying one for a computer with the intent of duping music? thanks -- Shawn If you the thought of having to go beyond 'Plug 'n Play' doesn't frighten you, a computer CD recorder is the way to go. Besides the difference in price for media noted in Jon's reply, the hardware for stand alones is more expensive as well and not nearly as versatile. Stand alones won't create CD-ROMs, for example. I've have my Plextor 4/12 for just over a year now, and have burned over 150 CDRs without any major problems, and I highly recommend it. Plextor has an excellent reputation for quality and customer service, but they are also among the priciest. If you don't mind rooting through a lot of pointless debate, the comp.publish.cdrom.hardware is an excellent starting place for more information.
RE: Recordable CD Players
At 02:55 PM 3/5/99 -0500, you wrote: Also, is there any audible difference between getting a home unit (stereo component) and buying one for a computer with the intent of duping music? As far as I know, there's no audible difference, but there's a financial one, as a friend of mine recently discovered: the standalone, home units require discs that cost substantially more than the ones used in computer peripherals (he says he's paying $6-$7 a disc, as opposed to $1-$2). As I understand it - and if I'm wrong, I have no doubt that someone will correct me - the difference is related largely to a royalty that goes to the record companies, purportedly to offset the cost of unauthorized duplication of CDs; the discs used in the computer peripherals are exempt because of their double duty as data storage media. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/ How does this industry kickback work? Do labels like Bloodshot, Hightone and Rebel see any of this? Seems suspicious to me. Is anyone out there using a computer peripheral for music duplication? How is it working? D.
Re: Recordable CD Players
At 12:26 PM 3/5/99 -0800, you wrote: If you the thought of having to go beyond 'Plug 'n Play' doesn't frighten you, a computer CD recorder is the way to go. Besides the difference in price for media noted in Jon's reply, the hardware for stand alones is more expensive as well and not nearly as versatile. Stand alones won't create CD-ROMs, for example. I've have my Plextor 4/12 for just over a year now, and have burned over 150 CDRs without any major problems, and I highly recommend it. Plextor has an excellent reputation for quality and customer service, but they are also among the priciest. If you don't mind rooting through a lot of pointless debate, the comp.publish.cdrom.hardware is an excellent starting place for more information. What is required for this, software-wise. How much was your Plextor 4/12? D.
Re: Recordable CD Players
At 10:16 AM -0800 on 3/5/99, Shawn Devlin wrote: I've been thinking about picking up a home CD Recordable unit. Does anybody out there own one, or have you heard of a particular brand/model that is supposed to be good? Does the quality vary alot between brands? Also, is there any audible difference between getting a home unit (stereo component) and buying one for a computer with the intent of duping music? You can read the huge FAQ at www.fadden.com/cdr. (If I've gotten that wrong, someone please say something.) I don't know if it has anything about the stereo component units, but I can't imagine there's much audible difference between those and CDRs for your computer. (Though that FAQ makes the point that the error correction algorithms may ensure that it never sounds the same way twice anyway.) I've got a Yamaha 4416 and like it quite a bit. Although it's a CDRW unit, it seems to have trouble with some CDRW blanks. But it's succesfully burned every normal CDR blank I've tossed into it, including generic cheapos. (You can't play CDRWs anyway -- they're only useful for backing up data, not for music.) Bob
Re: Recordable CD Players
If you own a Mac, I'd recommend getting a copy of Adaptec Toast (version 3.5.6 is the most current). If you own a PC, Adaptec's Easy CD Creator does the job. Either will burn audio CDs; if you're doing multimedia development, you can make your own presentations and have them automatically play when the CD is inserted into your PC. http://www.adaptec.com can give you more information about their software. I'm using a Sony doublespeed recorder from 1995 that has worked flawlessly ever since we bought it. I've done this more times than I'd care to admit. If you own a Macromedia product, chances are it came from this CD burner. Further details available privately to those who really need to know. np: Buena Vista Social Club
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If you don't mind rooting through a lot of pointless debate, Hilarious
Re: Recordable CD Players
At 03:39 PM 3/5/99 -0500, you wrote: At 12:26 PM 3/5/99 -0800, you wrote: If you the thought of having to go beyond 'Plug 'n Play' doesn't frighten you, a computer CD recorder is the way to go. Besides the difference in price for media noted in Jon's reply, the hardware for stand alones is more expensive as well and not nearly as versatile. Stand alones won't create CD-ROMs, for example. I've have my Plextor 4/12 for just over a year now, and have burned over 150 CDRs without any major problems, and I highly recommend it. Plextor has an excellent reputation for quality and customer service, but they are also among the priciest. If you don't mind rooting through a lot of pointless debate, the comp.publish.cdrom.hardware is an excellent starting place for more information. What is required for this, software-wise. How much was your Plextor 4/12? D. The Plextor 4/12 were going for $425+ back in 2/98. Since then, they've come our with an 8 speed writer, so I'm sure the price has dropped. You'll need a SCSI card for the Plextors and some others, but there are IDE writers as well. 2 speed IDE writers can go for as little as $200, but I have no idea of their quality. As for s/w, I use Easy CD Creator for CDROMs and Nero for audio CDs. My computer is a P90 w/ 32M, so the hardware requirements are no big deal.
