Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this?
That was an SNL spoof or something wasn't it? Wasn't it? Please say yes. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this?
On Apr 17, 2008, at 3:02 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: That was an SNL spoof or something wasn't it? Wasn't it? Please say yes. I wish I could. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house. I said I did. She said 'Well I certainly hope it isn't loaded!' To which I said, of course it is loaded, can't work without bullets!' She then asked, 'Are you that afraid of some one evil coming into your house?' My reply was, 'No not at all. I am not afraid of the house catching fire either, but I have fire extinguishers around, and they are all loaded too.' To which I'll add, having a gun in the house that isn't loaded is like having a car in the garage without gas in the tank. May i add some additional safety tips ? 1. make sure A.the safety catch is off B. the gun is chambered 2. leave the gun on a coffee table A+ jml 2. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Unless you are encrypting all outbound eMail, and require senders of incoming eMail to do the same, any and all such communications are subject to being intercepted and read, letter by letter, as eMail communication over the Internet is all Clear Text. I figure it is always best to never send any correspondence via eMail that could come back to bite me, or could injure another party. And whenever I transmit any confidential information I will only send it as an eMail attachment or ftp transfer after the file has been encrypted at at least 128bit (ZipGenius at 256bit Blowfish). Almost ditto for an web sites I send out data on. If it does not have the little closed hasp indicating the site is secure, I will not send logons info or credit card info. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Johnson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product I may be paranoid but I still don't feel comfortable with having customer emails on Google or Gmail. I have been using Thunderbird and Lightning for about eight months and really (*REALLY*) like it. It does everything I used to do in Outlook only considerably faster. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Matt Jarvis wrote: Secondly we've been searching for a desktop solution to Calendaring and alarms etc. People around here can't seem to get their heads around Google calendar, but Lightning seems to be popular. I'd just like to see an integrated solution that put it all together. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Which place is nicer to visit, Cincinatti or Indianapolis?
Indy has a children's museum that will bring the kid in senior citizen (More of science and nature center). The Indy 500 in May, The summer National Drag races in September (Labor Day weekend), and 11 championship golf courses open to the public. I lived in Indy for 10 years and love every minute. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:05 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Which place is nicer to visit, Cincinatti or Indianapolis? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had to choose, which place is nicer to visit, Cincinatti or Indianapolis? Mekka ? A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Backup Exec 11d
Has anyone had experience with this software. We seem to be having nothing but problems getting this to run properly. We're trying to back up to external usb harddrives, but it is very problematic. Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. We over estimate because we don't want to run out of tape/space for each backup session. To me this seems stupid. Why can't you just create a folder and direct the software to place the backup files in that folder. Second, the software consistently fails, with the error message that the backup media is not available. This is not true as you can see the usb drive with all its folders, files, etc. We have to safely remove the usb hardrive, shut it down, and restart before the Backup Exec software will acknowledge it is there. I'm about fed up and thinking about asking the reseller to take it back??? James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:21:32 -0400, Jim Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. Sounds to me like that functionality is 'tacked on' - tape is a serial medium, hard drives aren't. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
- Original Message - From: Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 April 2008 13:35:53 o'clock (GMT) Europe/London Subject: Re: [NF] Backup Exec 11d On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:21:32 -0400, Jim Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. Sounds to me like that functionality is 'tacked on' - tape is a serial medium, hard drives aren't. Alan Actually it's sequential rather than serial (at least I believe so) Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
Jim, I used to use the software until I discovered SyncbackSE which is far superior for USB devices. However, I digress. If you look, there is an option in there somewhere to save the backup as a file as opposed to a device. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Harvey Sent: 17 April 2008 13:22 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Has anyone had experience with this software. We seem to be having nothing but problems getting this to run properly. We're trying to back up to external usb harddrives, but it is very problematic. Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. We over estimate because we don't want to run out of tape/space for each backup session. To me this seems stupid. Why can't you just create a folder and direct the software to place the backup files in that folder. Second, the software consistently fails, with the error message that the backup media is not available. This is not true as you can see the usb drive with all its folders, files, etc. We have to safely remove the usb hardrive, shut it down, and restart before the Backup Exec software will acknowledge it is there. I'm about fed up and thinking about asking the reseller to take it back??? James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Lights Out
Kristyne, I think the difference we have here is that you are willing to give these scientists the benefit of the doubt because you believe the have good intentions. That must be it. I don't think the scientific world is out to rip me off. How sad it must be to be you. Follow the money! -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Murat Karataş can expect chilly homecoming
Hi Everybody! http://english.sabah.com.tr/4C59B3A2702947009A66CACD74E29D3B.html The wife of Murat Karataş, the suspect in the murder and rape of Italian artist Pippa Bacca, said: he has cruelly murdered a woman; I do not want to see him again. The wife of Murat Karataş, the suspect who raped and then killed Italian artist Pippa Bacca, 'the peace bride,' has been married to him for nine years. The suspect's wife, Türkan Kaya, cursed the murder suspect. Kaya said: nine years ago, he told me that he was married but would be divorced soon. We had to get married with a religious ceremony; we were unable to hold an official wedding. Then, I found out that he had two other wives; he had wed one with a religious ceremony and one with an official ceremony. Kaya added: the police informed me about the event and I was shocked to hear about it. I tore up all of his photographs and threw his stuff into the garbage. I do not want to see him again. Anyone still think he is NOT a Muslim? OK, maybe LDS. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
May i add some additional safety tips ? 1. make sure A.the safety catch is off B. the gun is chambered 2. leave the gun on a coffee table Wouldn't work! Keep it with you... remember John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
I have dealt with tape backup vendors trying to use a hard drive as a virtual tape drive before. They all miss the advantages in treating the disk as a random access device as opposed to a sequential access device like tape. I finally moved to SecondCopy, and then later to SyncBack SE (www.syncback.com). With both those inexpensive solutions there is the option to not needlessly back up a Source File if it exists on the target, and has not changed since the version already stored on the target. Hence, it is capable of a far more intelligent way of backing up in the logic itself when compared to tape backups. I set up paths for each day of the week, and only do a Full Backup once a week, and an intelligent differential backup the remaining days of the week. The reason I went from SecondCopy to SyncBack is because SyncBack supports Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS), so for local NTFS hard drives it can back up Open Files for XP, 2003 Server and I guess Vista (I do not yet have Vista running other than on a dual boot machine that I only use in XP mode). The last time I checked SecondCopy does not support VSS. I then use SyncBack once a week on a File Backup Manager Server to backup up the primary backup HDD units to a set of secondary HDD backup units (FreeAgent 750Gb SATA II/USB2, I use the eSATA II - FAST!). Then weekly I use BackupAssist to copy those secondary HDD backup units onto LTO3 tape media (3 sets I keep in constant rotation, one on site, one in a bank safe, one at a colleagues home office). It is a killer setup, and relatively inexpensive (LTO3 tape drive and media was the most costly part, followed by the duplicate set of backup HDD units). I do it because the cost of losing data, mine or that of a client, (much less all my programming code) would put me out of business. Another problem I found with the Disk Behaves Like Tape approaches is some external HDD units will go to sleep when not used for a while, and there is no practical way to alter that behavior. I know the Seagate FreeAgent HDD units do that. But, they wake up properly when accessed, and to date I have not lost any data with their firmware logic (knock on wood). The upside is they offer a 5 year warranty on their FreeAgent HDD units. So I put up with knowing the drives do spin down with non-use, by design. I bet the Disk Behaves Like Tape software is not tickling the target HDD correctly, and waking them up (?). That may also be something being done via Windows Power Options (I always turn off power management in MOS/BIOS and Windows, except for notebooks - can't trust the bastards to work properly.). Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Harvey Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Has anyone had experience with this software. We seem to be having nothing but problems getting this to run properly. We're trying to back up to external usb harddrives, but it is very problematic. Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. We over estimate because we don't want to run out of tape/space for each backup session. To me this seems stupid. Why can't you just create a folder and direct the software to place the backup files in that folder. Second, the software consistently fails, with the error message that the backup media is not available. This is not true as you can see the usb drive with all its folders, files, etc. We have to safely remove the usb hardrive, shut it down, and restart before the Backup Exec software will acknowledge it is there. I'm about fed up and thinking about asking the reseller to take it back??? James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this?
It's not a spoof... It WAS made by MS... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/17/vista_video_mocks_bruce/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 17 April 2008 11:24 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? On Apr 17, 2008, at 3:02 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: That was an SNL spoof or something wasn't it? Wasn't it? Please say yes. I wish I could. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Lights Out
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kristyne, I think the difference we have here is that you are willing to give these scientists the benefit of the doubt because you believe the have good intentions. That must be it. I don't think the scientific world is out to rip me off. How sad it must be to be you. Follow the money! --- Do you follow the same mindset with respect to all pharmaceuticals that are released? How about the science of outer space, is this all false because it was funded by some group with an agenda? -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this?
The video represents a horrible waste of electrons, even if they are recycled. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam Buckland Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? It's not a spoof... It WAS made by MS... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/17/vista_video_mocks_bruce/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 17 April 2008 11:24 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? On Apr 17, 2008, at 3:02 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: That was an SNL spoof or something wasn't it? Wasn't it? Please say yes. I wish I could. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
BTW, SyncBack is only $30.00USD per license. If you use it for business, one license per PC. If you use it for home, one license for up to 5 PCs. Thus far any time there is an update I have been getting it for free. The best deal going. It has never, ever failed me. They also offer a free trial (30 days I think). Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Jim, I used to use the software until I discovered SyncbackSE which is far superior for USB devices. However, I digress. If you look, there is an option in there somewhere to save the backup as a file as opposed to a device. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Harvey Sent: 17 April 2008 13:22 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Has anyone had experience with this software. We seem to be having nothing but problems getting this to run properly. We're trying to back up to external usb harddrives, but it is very problematic. Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. We over estimate because we don't want to run out of tape/space for each backup session. To me this seems stupid. Why can't you just create a folder and direct the software to place the backup files in that folder. Second, the software consistently fails, with the error message that the backup media is not available. This is not true as you can see the usb drive with all its folders, files, etc. We have to safely remove the usb hardrive, shut it down, and restart before the Backup Exec software will acknowledge it is there. I'm about fed up and thinking about asking the reseller to take it back??? James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Surface coming out to play today.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/04/16/microsoft-surface-launches-tomorrow-at-five-att-stores/ I find it funny that M$ is using ATT as it's venue. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't work! Keep it with you... remember John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction. Ok forgot the part about having a hair trigger. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Matt Jarvis wrote: Ted Roche wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Matt Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's gmail-ish w/o the google stuff, integrated calendar, task list, contacts, private/public-ness So, it's... email? Had a client who had it in 2007 and they were dissatisfied. I'm sure Rackspace has thousands of happy customers, but... What is it you are looking for? Web-interfaced email? My main motivation is to reduce spam... I personally don't get much, but apparently I'm the only one that can figure out how to invoke junk mail controls in Thunderbird... I'm getting tired of people whining about it... Secondly we've been searching for a desktop solution to Calendaring and alarms etc. People around here can't seem to get their heads around Google calendar, but Lightning seems to be popular. I'd just like to see an integrated solution that put it all together. Plus it would/should free up a server class machine (current mail server) for other duties. Gamer Box for the IT Manager perhaps??? g And they'd worry about spam/virus/backups and all that I'm just asking it might be nice to have everyone all in the same sandbox Malcolm has been singing the praises of FastMail...check the archives. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?
Malcolm, I've owned two Brother Multi-Function monochrome laser units and both gave absolutely no problems up through the 5+ year range. This is about when I decide it's time for a new unit, usually because a new drum will be required in the near futureg. Actually I'm at that point again now and with a drum running $180 USD, I am toying with getting another unit, but not because of anything wrong with the printer. In fact I'm really hesitant to replace it because I like it so much. I may just shop for a new drum. I however don't like the software they come with. Never was able to get comfortable with in. Under Win 98, it always gave me problems and I've really never gone back to it. I would think that a straight laser with just a printer driver would give you no issues. I've also had clients with Brother Lasers and they have never had any problems with them. I would not think twice about purchasing another Brother. Jim. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malcolm Greene Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers? I'm thinking about purchasing the following Brother wireless laser printer for my home office. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer with Wireless Wired Network Interfaces http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=206615073adid=17070dcaid=17070#c RevSec Do any of you have experience with any of the Brother laser printers or have an alternative recommendation in the same price/feature set window? Thanks! Malcolm Here's what ~$140 gets you (my concern: sounds too good to be true) BTW: Original Buy.com promotion was $102. I sat on my butt too long before following up. snip The HL-2170W is a network, monochrome laser printer that is ideal for home or home office printer sharing. It features network connectivity via Ethernet and wireless interfaces, a fast print speed of up to 23ppm, HQ resolution (up to 2400 x 600 dpi) for high-quality output, and quick processing with 32MB memory. The HL-2170W provides flexible paper handling via an enclosed 250-sheet capacity tray and a manual by-pass slot for printing envelopes and letterhead. It also offers a Toner Save mode to extend toner life and wide compatibility with support for Windows and Mac and PCL6 emulation. Features - Fast laser printing at up to 23ppm - Includes built-in wireless (802.11b/g) and Ethernet network interfaces - HQ1200 resolution (up to 2400 x 600 dpi) for high-quality output - 250-sheet paper capacity - 32MB memory standard - Compact size for home or home office - Great for family or office printer sharing - PCL6 emulation standard - 10,000 pgs. maximum monthly duty cycle /snip [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this?
Adam Buckland wrote: It's not a spoof... It WAS made by MS... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/17/vista_video_mocks_bruce/ The stockholders should demand that they cease with this kind of waste of money. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
I also use SyncBack - I think it may have been Gil that recommended it to me. I schedule a backup of my development folders to my server every day. I also schedule a complete backup of my server to a backup drive daily. Once a week, I backup the server to an external and take it to a safe deposit box. For the first time in my long career, I feel adequately backed up. I had my main system fail and I was able to use the server until I got my main computer back. SyncBack is simple to use and effective. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Gil Hale wrote: BTW, SyncBack is only $30.00USD per license. If you use it for business, one license per PC. If you use it for home, one license for up to 5 PCs. Thus far any time there is an update I have been getting it for free. The best deal going. It has never, ever failed me. They also offer a free trial (30 days I think). Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Jim, I used to use the software until I discovered SyncbackSE which is far superior for USB devices. However, I digress. If you look, there is an option in there somewhere to save the backup as a file as opposed to a device. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Harvey Sent: 17 April 2008 13:22 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Has anyone had experience with this software. We seem to be having nothing but problems getting this to run properly. We're trying to back up to external usb harddrives, but it is very problematic. Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. We over estimate because we don't want to run out of tape/space for each backup session. To me this seems stupid. Why can't you just create a folder and direct the software to place the backup files in that folder. Second, the software consistently fails, with the error message that the backup media is not available. This is not true as you can see the usb drive with all its folders, files, etc. We have to safely remove the usb hardrive, shut it down, and restart before the Backup Exec software will acknowledge it is there. I'm about fed up and thinking about asking the reseller to take it back??? James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Which place is nicer to visit, Cincinatti or Indianapolis?
Jim Felton wrote: Indy has a children's museum that will bring the kid in senior citizen (More of science and nature center). The Indy 500 in May, The summer National Drag races in September (Labor Day weekend), and 11 championship golf courses open to the public. I lived in Indy for 10 years and love every minute. I'd love to go back there and live as that's where I'm from and my family is there, and especially since now the divorce is (almost) over. But until I expand my toolset to include the kinds of languages that have job offers there, it's not gonna be as easy as I'd like. (There's very little VFP work there according to job searches.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Malcolm has been singing the praises of FastMail...check the archives. I am a huge Fastmail fan (love their service and their web interface) but the Noteworthy service also sounds great. Assuming equal reliability, here are 4 things I like about the Noteworthy service: 1. A control panel so one can manage multiple accounts easily. Fastmail is still focused on individuals (although they claim to be working on a multi-account control panel interface as well) 2. Migration services to help you migrate from your existing email service to their service (move all your saved emails and folders). (Note that this service does not migrate spam settings, folder filing rules, etc - its just a bulk transfer of email) 3. A variety of archival options including bcc to an an archival account and DVD snapshots of a mail account. 4. Secondary data backup via Amazon's S3 storage service. I would love to hear feedback from anyone using the Noteworthy service. Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] PocketPowerBuilder now PocketBuilder
Hey guys Excuse me if this is not an appropriate post, but I've got a recruiter friend that has asked me if I know of anyone that knows Pocket PowerBuilder (now called PocketBuilder). Knowing the wide range of database skills of the members on this list, I promised to ask on his behalf. So, if any of you have used it and want a full time job, send me an email which I'll forward. mike dot yearwood at gmail dot com. Thanks On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send ProfoxTech mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ProfoxTech digest... This list is a distilled version of the main ProFox list. All messages with [OT] in the subject line have been distilled out, leaving just technical discussions. You cannot post directly to this list. Instead, please direct all replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's Topics: 1. Re: [NF] Backup Exec 11d (Paul Newton) 2. RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d (Dave Crozier) 3. RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d (Gil Hale) 4. RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? (Adam Buckland) 5. RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? (Gil Hale) 6. RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d (Gil Hale) 7. [NF] Surface coming out to play today. (Stephen Russell) 8. Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product (MB Software Solutions General Account) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:42:30 +0300 (EAT) From: Paul Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Backup Exec 11d To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii - Original Message - From: Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 April 2008 13:35:53 o'clock (GMT) Europe/London Subject: Re: [NF] Backup Exec 11d On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:21:32 -0400, Jim Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. Sounds to me like that functionality is 'tacked on' - tape is a serial medium, hard drives aren't. Alan Actually it's sequential rather than serial (at least I believe so) Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
I used to rely on rotating external HDD units, until I ended up with 14 active units, and 14 off-site units, for all the Servers and PCs! It got to be a real grind weekly having to rotate all those units... That is when I brought back a tape back solution, but the old DLT-IV drives I had just were not going to hack it any longer due to the amount of bytes I had to back up over Ultra-Wide SCSI (40mps max, but the DLT-IV throughput is slower than that), and the number of tapes I would have to use to store all the data. That is when I got the LTO3 unit, which can store 400Gb natively, up to 800 compressed (in theory, it is actually closer to 650Gb for me on average). LTO4 doubles the capacity yet again, but costs a lot more moolah. I could have used a 320mps SCSI card on a 64 bit PCI-X (not PCI-Express) slot, but I opted for the far less expensive 160mps Adaptec 64 bit PCI SCSI card, which is still 4 time faster than the 32 bit PCI Ultra-Wide SCSI, and it is more than fast enough for my needs (I can always upgrade the PCI-6d card and double my backup rate). I use 4 LTO3 tape media cartridges each week, for a total of 1.8Tb+ of file content, with room to spare for growth. It takes me 2.25 days to fill the 4 cartridges, only because I am not always awake at 04:00 to swap in another tape when one of the 4 separate jobs are done. With having 2 sets of media off site, one in the bank safe, I really rest easy now. I use both software and hardware compression during backups, and I am feeding the LTO3 with data from the external Seagate FreeAgent eSATA II (3gps) HDD units. The LTO3 is the choke point, even if I kicked it up to 320mps SCSI it would still be the choke point. Those eSATA II connections are wicked FAST! Did I mention the Seagate 5 year warranty? eSATA II cables are not the same as SATA cables, see www.satacables.com for a fair price. The cool thing about SyncBack is I am not using a proprietary catalog storage technique. The files are stored on their target in native format. So recovering a file is a snap. As for the LTO3 unit, I use BackupAssist, which is a graphical shell that wraps around native NTBackup. Thus to do a restore I do not need anything other than native Windows NTBackup on any machine I can put an LTO3 drive into. No fuss, no muss. The best $250 (or so) I ever spent on a tape backup solution. Why not use NTBackup natively for my LTO3 drive? PITA, BackupAssist makes it real easy to see what I am doing, and when. They did a great job on that app (Australian? New Zealand?). Ciao! Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Backup Exec 11d I also use SyncBack - I think it may have been Gil that recommended it to me. I schedule a backup of my development folders to my server every day. I also schedule a complete backup of my server to a backup drive daily. Once a week, I backup the server to an external and take it to a safe deposit box. For the first time in my long career, I feel adequately backed up. I had my main system fail and I was able to use the server until I got my main computer back. SyncBack is simple to use and effective. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Gil Hale wrote: BTW, SyncBack is only $30.00USD per license. If you use it for business, one license per PC. If you use it for home, one license for up to 5 PCs. Thus far any time there is an update I have been getting it for free. The best deal going. It has never, ever failed me. They also offer a free trial (30 days I think). Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Jim, I used to use the software until I discovered SyncbackSE which is far superior for USB devices. However, I digress. If you look, there is an option in there somewhere to save the backup as a file as opposed to a device. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Harvey Sent: 17 April 2008 13:22 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Has anyone had experience with this software. We seem to be having nothing but problems getting this to run properly. We're trying to back up to external usb harddrives, but it is very problematic. Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. We over estimate because we don't want to run out of tape/space for each backup session. To me this seems stupid. Why can't you just create a folder and direct the software to place the backup files in that folder.
Re: [OT] Lights Out
Do you follow the same mindset with respect to all pharmaceuticals that are released? We know they are doing it for money... do you think otherwise. The difference is they are offering value for dollars. We may or may not buy their product. They are not attempting to enforce dictatorial rule that will screw up peoples lives and wreck our economy. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
Thanks Gil. I definitely can see your point about this software being designed for tapes, and not USB drives. I appreciate your advice and am going online to check out Synback SE. James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:25 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d I have dealt with tape backup vendors trying to use a hard drive as a virtual tape drive before. They all miss the advantages in treating the disk as a random access device as opposed to a sequential access device like tape. I finally moved to SecondCopy, and then later to SyncBack SE (www.syncback.com). With both those inexpensive solutions there is the option to not needlessly back up a Source File if it exists on the target, and has not changed since the version already stored on the target. Hence, it is capable of a far more intelligent way of backing up in the logic itself when compared to tape backups. I set up paths for each day of the week, and only do a Full Backup once a week, and an intelligent differential backup the remaining days of the week. The reason I went from SecondCopy to SyncBack is because SyncBack supports Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS), so for local NTFS hard drives it can back up Open Files for XP, 2003 Server and I guess Vista (I do not yet have Vista running other than on a dual boot machine that I only use in XP mode). The last time I checked SecondCopy does not support VSS. I then use SyncBack once a week on a File Backup Manager Server to backup up the primary backup HDD units to a set of secondary HDD backup units (FreeAgent 750Gb SATA II/USB2, I use the eSATA II - FAST!). Then weekly I use BackupAssist to copy those secondary HDD backup units onto LTO3 tape media (3 sets I keep in constant rotation, one on site, one in a bank safe, one at a colleagues home office). It is a killer setup, and relatively inexpensive (LTO3 tape drive and media was the most costly part, followed by the duplicate set of backup HDD units). I do it because the cost of losing data, mine or that of a client, (much less all my programming code) would put me out of business. Another problem I found with the Disk Behaves Like Tape approaches is some external HDD units will go to sleep when not used for a while, and there is no practical way to alter that behavior. I know the Seagate FreeAgent HDD units do that. But, they wake up properly when accessed, and to date I have not lost any data with their firmware logic (knock on wood). The upside is they offer a 5 year warranty on their FreeAgent HDD units. So I put up with knowing the drives do spin down with non-use, by design. I bet the Disk Behaves Like Tape software is not tickling the target HDD correctly, and waking them up (?). That may also be something being done via Windows Power Options (I always turn off power management in MOS/BIOS and Windows, except for notebooks - can't trust the bastards to work properly.). Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Harvey Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Has anyone had experience with this software. We seem to be having nothing but problems getting this to run properly. We're trying to back up to external usb harddrives, but it is very problematic. Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. We over estimate because we don't want to run out of tape/space for each backup session. To me this seems stupid. Why can't you just create a folder and direct the software to place the backup files in that folder. Second, the software consistently fails, with the error message that the backup media is not available. This is not true as you can see the usb drive with all its folders, files, etc. We have to safely remove the usb hardrive, shut it down, and restart before the Backup Exec software will acknowledge it is there. I'm about fed up and thinking about asking the reseller to take it back??? James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical
Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
Wouldn't work! Keep it with you... remember John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction. Ok forgot the part about having a hair trigger. Just don't forget... Guns don't kill people, postmen kill people. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Paul McNett wrote: I'm not comfortable with it either. If they decide to put their stuff on a public server, that's one thing. But I will recommend against it almost every time. It isn't that I'm paranoid that Google will turn evil (I am, though). It is that by storing valuable data offsite like that, especially on such a high-profile place, the risk of data theft or hacking where I am not in control is too great. Google employs a lot of highly intelligent people. Highly intelligent people have a way of pulling of highly intricate crimes, and it just takes one bad apple. Paul I'll be the FIRST to admit I'm paranoid Remember way back when we were all learning the rules of the net - Thou shalt not put anything anywhere on the net that you wouldn't want seen on a public bulletin board driving down the freeway. I still feel the same way (tho I slip up from time to time)... I only use GMail for my personal stuff. My gripe w/ GMail is they archive/scan the content of your emails so they can tailor advertising to you. Hey - it's a free service so I expect them to get something out of my using it, but that doesn't mean I like it. But then again, if the world wants to know I like to dress up as a Leprechaun and sing the aria from Madam Butterfly, I guess they're welcome to that info -- Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager, MCP Bike Friday - Performance That Packs! www.bikefriday.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't work! Keep it with you... remember John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction. Ok forgot the part about having a hair trigger. Just don't forget... Guns don't kill people, postmen kill people. Could make up the stats...but i'm quite convinced lots of people get hurt/killed by sheer stupidity while handling guns. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
I'm sure people cut themselves shaving, let's ban razors. --- Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't work! Keep it with you... remember John Travolta's character in Pulp Fiction. Ok forgot the part about having a hair trigger. Just don't forget... Guns don't kill people, postmen kill people. Could make up the stats...but i'm quite convinced lots of people get hurt/killed by sheer stupidity while handling guns. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Matt Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul McNett wrote: I'm not comfortable with it either. If they decide to put their stuff on a public server, that's one thing. But I will recommend against it almost every time. It isn't that I'm paranoid that Google will turn evil (I am, though). It is that by storing valuable data offsite like that, especially on such a high-profile place, the risk of data theft or hacking where I am not in control is too great. Google employs a lot of highly intelligent people. Highly intelligent people have a way of pulling of highly intricate crimes, and it just takes one bad apple. Paul I'll be the FIRST to admit I'm paranoid Remember way back when we were all learning the rules of the net - Thou shalt not put anything anywhere on the net that you wouldn't want seen on a public bulletin board driving down the freeway. I still feel the same way (tho I slip up from time to time)... I only use GMail for my personal stuff. My gripe w/ GMail is they archive/scan the content of your emails so they can tailor advertising to you. Hey - it's a free service so I expect them to get something out of my using it, but that doesn't mean I like it. But then again, if the world wants to know I like to dress up as a Leprechaun and sing the aria from Madam Butterfly, I guess they're welcome to that info - Funny is reading this in gMail and seeing all the ads on right about bikes for sale as well as rackspace and Opera tickets. Just kidding about the tickets. -- Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager, MCP Bike Friday - Performance That Packs! www.bikefriday.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] The Day the Internet Stood Still
http://gawker.com/380877/south-park-the-day-the-internet-stood-still?autoplay=true Kwame Kilpatrick Gear! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Jack Kevorkian for Congress! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Did it take long or is this out of the blue?
Sun changing what is free in MySQL vs paid for. http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/04/17/sun_closed_source_mysql/ -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] God Bless Brigitte Bardot
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/ap_on_re_eu/france_bardot Kwame Kilpatrick Gear! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Jack Kevorkian for Congress! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike I Wish Hillary had married OJ http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/4236924 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d
Their pricing is a bargain even at twice (or more even) what they ask for it... Glad to be of help. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Harvey Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Thanks Gil. I definitely can see your point about this software being designed for tapes, and not USB drives. I appreciate your advice and am going online to check out Synback SE. James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:25 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Backup Exec 11d I have dealt with tape backup vendors trying to use a hard drive as a virtual tape drive before. They all miss the advantages in treating the disk as a random access device as opposed to a sequential access device like tape. I finally moved to SecondCopy, and then later to SyncBack SE (www.syncback.com). With both those inexpensive solutions there is the option to not needlessly back up a Source File if it exists on the target, and has not changed since the version already stored on the target. Hence, it is capable of a far more intelligent way of backing up in the logic itself when compared to tape backups. I set up paths for each day of the week, and only do a Full Backup once a week, and an intelligent differential backup the remaining days of the week. The reason I went from SecondCopy to SyncBack is because SyncBack supports Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS), so for local NTFS hard drives it can back up Open Files for XP, 2003 Server and I guess Vista (I do not yet have Vista running other than on a dual boot machine that I only use in XP mode). The last time I checked SecondCopy does not support VSS. I then use SyncBack once a week on a File Backup Manager Server to backup up the primary backup HDD units to a set of secondary HDD backup units (FreeAgent 750Gb SATA II/USB2, I use the eSATA II - FAST!). Then weekly I use BackupAssist to copy those secondary HDD backup units onto LTO3 tape media (3 sets I keep in constant rotation, one on site, one in a bank safe, one at a colleagues home office). It is a killer setup, and relatively inexpensive (LTO3 tape drive and media was the most costly part, followed by the duplicate set of backup HDD units). I do it because the cost of losing data, mine or that of a client, (much less all my programming code) would put me out of business. Another problem I found with the Disk Behaves Like Tape approaches is some external HDD units will go to sleep when not used for a while, and there is no practical way to alter that behavior. I know the Seagate FreeAgent HDD units do that. But, they wake up properly when accessed, and to date I have not lost any data with their firmware logic (knock on wood). The upside is they offer a 5 year warranty on their FreeAgent HDD units. So I put up with knowing the drives do spin down with non-use, by design. I bet the Disk Behaves Like Tape software is not tickling the target HDD correctly, and waking them up (?). That may also be something being done via Windows Power Options (I always turn off power management in MOS/BIOS and Windows, except for notebooks - can't trust the bastards to work properly.). Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Harvey Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Backup Exec 11d Has anyone had experience with this software. We seem to be having nothing but problems getting this to run properly. We're trying to back up to external usb harddrives, but it is very problematic. Two major issues are, first, the software wants to treat a usb harddrive like tape so that you have to create a space reserved for each backup session. We over estimate because we don't want to run out of tape/space for each backup session. To me this seems stupid. Why can't you just create a folder and direct the software to place the backup files in that folder. Second, the software consistently fails, with the error message that the backup media is not available. This is not true as you can see the usb drive with all its folders, files, etc. We have to safely remove the usb hardrive, shut it down, and restart before the Backup Exec software will acknowledge it is there. I'm about fed up and thinking about asking the reseller to take it back??? James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages
RE: [NF] Did it take long or is this out of the blue?
Man, am I glad I selected PostgreSQL! It is not because I foresaw a company wrestling control of the solution from the Open Source gallery, then charging for some or all of its features. It is because I was really gunshy about any possible misunderstandings about its dual-license, and where it would leave me and my clients if I did as many do, and use it for free regardless of any alleged misunderstanding. Had I foreseen Sun acquiring it, then opting to start to profit (e-gads!) from MySQL as a product, I would have wasted far less time mulling over the Great MySQL vs PostgreSQL debate. Oh well, let's just hope that never, ever happens with Linux! Or PostgreSQL! Or OpenOffice... Time will tell, it always does. At that, the MySQL fees will not likely affect the majority of lighter duty users (for now g). Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Did it take long or is this out of the blue? Sun changing what is free in MySQL vs paid for. http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/04/17/sun_closed_source_mysql/ -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this?
On Apr 17, 2008, at 9:23 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: It's not a spoof... It WAS made by MS... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/17/vista_video_mocks_bruce/ The stockholders should demand that they cease with this kind of waste of money. On what? The video, or Vista itself? ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP(9) Excel importing
I've seen this behavior when the contents were too large to import. You could use the CusorAdapter and ODBC to get the pages. HTH, Tracy -Original Message- From: Sytze de Boer Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:13 AM Hi Folk I need desperate help I'm trying to import data from a spreadsheet which has multiple sheets All is well except it refuses to import data stored in any column from J onward My command is a simple Append From (ximport) Type Xl8 Sheet FTENTS I've also tried IMPORT from (ximport) TYPE xls SHEET FTENTS and it does exactly the same thing i.e all the column details are in my table except from Column J onwards What gives -- Regards Sytze de Boer Kiss Systems Ph: 64-7-8391670 Mob:021 937611 http://kiss.systems.googlepages.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this?
On what? The video, or Vista itself? ;-) Either, both... Hmmm, I wonder if it may be in the future that some slick person comes up with a reggae tune touting the good things about Ubuntu Linux, or some acid-rock tune about how cool Mac OS X is, heh-heh... I'd download that iTune! Either one! Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? On Apr 17, 2008, at 9:23 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: It's not a spoof... It WAS made by MS... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/17/vista_video_mocks_bruce/ The stockholders should demand that they cease with this kind of waste of money. On what? The video, or Vista itself? ;-) -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
Jean wrote: Could make up the stats...but i'm quite convinced lots of people get hurt/killed by sheer stupidity while handling guns. Ah, but aren't you one of those who believes in natural selection, survival of the fitest, etc. I would think you would cheer this on as natures way of eliminating those unfit to handle guns. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Support our war based economy
http://www.bestpicever.com/pic-3370-Support_our_war_based_economy ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Did it take long or is this out of the blue?
Ditto what Gil said. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean wrote: Could make up the stats...but i'm quite convinced lots of people get hurt/killed by sheer stupidity while handling guns. Ah, but aren't you one of those who believes in natural selection, survival of the fitest, etc. I would think you would cheer this on as natures way of eliminating those unfit to handle guns. One out far too many http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=40570 A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Did it take long or is this out of the blue?
Did you guys read this bit The business decision on this was made by MySQL AB (by me as the then CEO) prior to the acquisition by Sun, so this has nothing to do with Sun. On the contrary, Sun is more likely to influence this decision the other way, Mickos said. It was going to happen anyway. Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program Gile wrote: Had I foreseen Sun acquiring it, then opting to start to profit (e-gads!) from MySQL as a product, Vince Teachout wrote: Ditto what Gil said. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Did it take long or is this out of the blue?
Did you guys read this bit Yeah, I read it. More conjuring in the wizards' council. It was going to happen anyway, true enough. But I was not in those meetings, nor did I read anything about the conjuring. Thus, for me it would have been a blind-siding had I pinned my future direction on MySQL. I know it is a fine solution, and its price beats SQL Server and Oracle all to hell (not to mention its kick ass performance). But, fair is fair, and I did not feel I could use the app for free and be fair to AB in doing so. That is my Kinder Gentler side. I also did not want to take any chances on getting nailed, or getting any clients nailed, for using the MySQL DB commercially under what could have (easily) been construed as eligible for remuneration (that is my prefensive side). Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Stirling Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Did it take long or is this out of the blue? Did you guys read this bit The business decision on this was made by MySQL AB (by me as the then CEO) prior to the acquisition by Sun, so this has nothing to do with Sun. On the contrary, Sun is more likely to influence this decision the other way, Mickos said. It was going to happen anyway. Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program Gile wrote: Had I foreseen Sun acquiring it, then opting to start to profit (e-gads!) from MySQL as a product, Vince Teachout wrote: Ditto what Gil said. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised
Check out the title of this thread! http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/568413 -- Ed Leafe Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message (including any attached or embedded documents) is intended for the exclusive and confidential use of the individual or entity to which this message is addressed, and unless otherwise expressly indicated, is confidential and privileged information of Rackspace. Any dissemination, distribution or copying of the enclosed material is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. Your cooperation is appreciated. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] who is a better drinker?
These guys, I guess, don't feel a thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7353025.stm -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised
Ed Leafe wrote: Check out the title of this thread! http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/568413 -- Ed Leafe I always thought Gil was a scumbag - I'm glad he's dead g -- Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager, MCP Bike Friday - Performance That Packs! www.bikefriday.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised
Blaaawwwhh! heh-heh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised Check out the title of this thread! http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/568413 -- Ed Leafe Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message (including any attached or embedded documents) is intended for the exclusive and confidential use of the individual or entity to which this message is addressed, and unless otherwise expressly indicated, is confidential and privileged information of Rackspace. Any dissemination, distribution or copying of the enclosed material is prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the original message. Your cooperation is appreciated. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised
So, you are a member of the Grateful He's Dead?G JH ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:22 PM, John Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, you are a member of the Grateful He's Dead?G - close. The Grateful Dead He's Gone club. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised - really ought to be {OT}, but... heh-heh, since I am dead now....
I always thought Gil was a scumbag - I'm glad he's dead I always thought Gil was a bit odd also, until I realized he was my Evil Other Self, at which point I grew even more convinced he was representative all things of foulness on our planet. But, I for one, can state that without a doubt Gil is not really as dead as supposed in the article Ed Leafe dug out for us all to enjoy. He merely sleeps at odd hours with his 3 Siberian Huskies (not with the fish, as in The Godfather). That said, how to make this a legitimate [NF] subject... Hmmm, my specialty and I can't think of one reasonable way to not make this [OT]. Oh, here goes, I have it... Ed started this as [NF], so surely there is merit in him having done this, even if he did it knowing full well I do not read [OT] and wanted to make damned sure I saw this thread in all its glory. Nice try, it worked g... Okay, that is it for the alleged [NF] stuff. Fun is fun, but since I have the [NF] floor in what really ought to be [OT], the following is optional, extra credit reading g. If you do not want to read something that really pushes the edge for a [NF] add-on, stop here. Read no further... --- Warning - [OT] below --- I am certain I could think of worse things than Gil being dead, but none come to mind right now... But for the moment at least let's be kind to that poor bastard, as he needs some caring thoughts at the moment. Why? Well, how about he had rented his SoCal home to a couple who within a few months found the young wife had cervical cancer - and they had no medical insurance. Gil and his wife Lynda (this is strange talking about myself in the 3rd person) opted to not make the couple leave, or kicking their young children out onto the street (they had no safety net or relatives that could help them). So the Hales opted to Do The Right Thing, and carried the young couple and their young children for 18 months, and allowed the husband to do some work on the house that really was not needed as rental offset. Heck, they even got them a high speed Internet connection and a nice Compaq PC so the wife could work from home after she had begun her recovery. The rest of the rental expense was forgiven. In 2006 Gil Lynda incurred a $17,000 write off, and in 2007 another $21,000 write off, for taxes (not that they needed it) - all in the name of trying to be decent people when they were in a position to be of help to this beleaguered family. In late December, 2007, the couple found a friend who had room in their new home for them to live in for free, so they left the Hale House. And all of this was happening when Gil's own hourly physical system work cabling related income had dropped substantially due to his nerve damage in his neck. Upon inspection by their Property Manager it was found that in the last 2-3 months of the wretched family remaining in the house they had damaged the carpets throughout the house, damaged each of the alarm security window screens ($300.00 each. Each one was cut), and the walls had been muddied and soiled to the point where the entire interior had to be scrubbed down and repainted. Now, bear in mind that Gil had been in the home during his frequent SoCal visits to see what had been done with the various house projects, and setting up the PC he purchased for the family to use. It had been kept in good condition inside, at least until late October, 2007. The meager $1,200 security deposit had already been applied to the last month of rent, so the Hales took it in the shorts for yet another $6,800 for carpet replacement, security system repairs, and repainting, which took about 5 weeks to get scheduled and completed. And now the house has been sitting empty, awaiting another tenant since mid February with a cash burn rate of $2,000 per month for all services (swimming pool service, soft water service, lawn service, alarm service with telco interface, pest control service, etc. This ain't some shabby hut) and utilities, taxes, insurance, etc. So, NO MORE MR. NICE GUY! Indeed the old saying is true, No Good Deed Ever Goes Unpunished. No sense in tracking the jerk down and suing him, he has no money. Now the mantra around here is simply, Pay the rent or our Property Manager will make certain you are gone quickly. The Property Manager has been given very clear instructions to never, ever share any personal tragedy stories with the Hales about any tenant again, ever. We do not want to hear it, we did our Lifetime Penance. We are done. Why the rant? Why, of course I am taking full advantage of the Ed Leafe [NF] for what should be an [OT] thread... I figure as long as I am allegedly dead, what the hell? Who's gonna stop me g... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt Jarvis Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so
Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised - really ought to be {OT}, but... heh-heh, since I am dead now....
On Apr 17, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Gil Hale wrote: Ed started this as [NF], so surely there is merit in him having done this, even if he did it knowing full well I do not read [OT] and wanted to make damned sure I saw this thread in all its glory. Nice try, it worked g... It was a Python post, and it featured a prominent ProFoxer, so why not [NF]? But as you saw fit to include [OT] in the subject, it's off the tech list. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised - really ought to be{OT}, but... heh-heh, since I am dead now....
But as you saw fit to include [OT] in the subject, it's off
the tech
list.
Ah, but being a sneaky little dead bastard I actually used {OT}, not [OT].
So it did come across g... heh-heh...
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be{OT}, but... heh-heh, since I am dead now
On Apr 17, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Gil Hale wrote:
Ed started this as [NF], so surely there is merit in him
having done this, even if he did it knowing full well I do not read
[OT] and
wanted to make damned sure I saw this thread in all its glory. Nice
try, it
worked g...
It was a Python post, and it featured a prominent ProFoxer, so why
not [NF]?
But as you saw fit to include [OT] in the subject, it's off
the tech
list.
-- Ed Leafe
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Re: [OT] Gun wisdom
Ah, but aren't you one of those who believes in natural selection, survival of the fitest, etc. I would think you would cheer this on as natures way of eliminating those unfit to handle guns. One out far too many http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=40570 And you've never heard of kids hit by cars, injured or killed by household chemicals, heck... even died because they were left in cars by stupid parents.? They are all terrible. So why pick on the one item that permits someone to defend themselves? Your agenda is obvious. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] God Bless Brigitte Bardot
On Thursday 17 April 2008 11:05, Michael Madigan wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/ap_on_re_eu/france_bardot Hi Michael! Her animal rights stuff is questionable. In any event, I like this picture of her better than the one accompanying your link. http://www.syntagmamedia.com/wp-content/Bardot.jpg -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: SP2 Fixes - Light at the end of the tunnel
Brian Abbott wrote: Paul McNett wrote: MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Brian Abbott wrote: Hmmm, forgive me for being sceptical but, AIUI, YAG won't commit to what might be fixed (past the help file and the report toolbar) or to any timescales. Based on past performance I'm not holding my breath ... What's AIUI mean? As I Understand It? Yup WIBEFAOU(STOUWANNES)TLTUOATAM ? (a.k.a. Wouldn't it be easier for all of us (specially those of us who are not native English speakers) to limit the use of acronyms to a minimum?) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: SP2 Fixes - Light at the end of the tunnel
And for those native English speakers as well. Saves wrongful guessing. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz WIBEFAOU(STOUWANNES)TLTUOATAM ? (a.k.a. Wouldn't it be easier for all of us (specially those of us who are not native English speakers) to limit the use of acronyms to a minimum?) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1382 - Release Date: 16/04/2008 17:34 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] God Bless Brigitte Bardot
Jesus what an ugly womam she became, I wonder why... Catherine Deneuve is so beautiful today and about the same age. E. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1383 - Release Date: 17-Apr-08 09:00 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] who is a better drinker?
Strong like bull! --- Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These guys, I guess, don't feel a thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7353025.stm -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] God Bless Brigitte Bardot
Eurico Chagas Filho wrote: Jesus what an ugly womam she became, I wonder why... I was thinking the same: Father Time is a mean bastard. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?
Do any of you have experience with any of the Brother laser printers or have an alternative recommendation in the same price/feature set window? Sorry to respond so late. We have been using Brother black white laser printers for a few years. We started with the HL-1440. That was a tank--I've only had two of them fail in the 5 or so years we've had them--and those were mechanical failures accompanied by quite dramatic grinding noises in the paper transport. When that model became unavailable, we went with the HL-2040 at the same price point. I've been much less happy with those--I've had about 5 of them fail--they stop recognizing paper or full toner cartridges, and nothing can be done. That model was recently discontinued so we are now buying HL-2140s. It remains to be seen if they will be an improvement. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] God Bless Brigitte Bardot
Just remember her like this http://www.rumela.com/albums/brigitte_bardot/brigitte_bardot17.jpg --- Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eurico Chagas Filho wrote: Jesus what an ugly womam she became, I wonder why... I was thinking the same: Father Time is a mean bastard. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers?
We started with the HL-1440. That was a tank--I've only had two of them fail in the 5 or so years we've had them I picked up an HL-1440 for my father to use with a Lispire Linux PC (v-4.5) a few years ago. The only thing I found with them was their firmware puts them to sleep after so much time of non-use, which is fine. except the drivers then available via CUPS would not properly wake the printer up after an extended sleep period. So to get his printer to operate after a long period of non-use (over 12 hours or so) he has to turn off the printer, then turn it back on, or simply press the OnLine (?) button to get it to light back up. The other month I set him up with Ubuntu Linux v-7.10, mostly to get him into a smoother interface (I really like Ubuntu 7.10 a lot). I was also hoping the new driver that came native with Ubuntu Linux would do a better job of waking up the printer, but thus far it does not seem to have helped. I have read with an earlier model driver does a better job (1210 model, perhaps?). Other than that, with all the light duty lasers I have seen in use, the Brother is a real trooper. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Dibble Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Feedback on Brother laser printers? Do any of you have experience with any of the Brother laser printers or have an alternative recommendation in the same price/feature set window? Sorry to respond so late. We have been using Brother black white laser printers for a few years. We started with the HL-1440. That was a tank--I've only had two of them fail in the 5 or so years we've had them--and those were mechanical failures accompanied by quite dramatic grinding noises in the paper transport. When that model became unavailable, we went with the HL-2040 at the same price point. I've been much less happy with those--I've had about 5 of them fail--they stop recognizing paper or full toner cartridges, and nothing can be done. That model was recently discontinued so we are now buying HL-2140s. It remains to be seen if they will be an improvement. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] God Bless Brigitte Bardot
Her animal rights stuff is questionable. In any event, I like this picture of her better than the one accompanying your link. http://www.syntagmamedia.com/wp-content/Bardot.jpg Ah yes, those were the days, and who could forget And God Created Woman. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
